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>>136988892 (OP)
Reminder that you're not supposed to side with this person and the entire context is that Ben has learned to be the bigger man because in the past he resorted to violence when dealing with idiots. This is just another case of an anon taking something out of context to generate rage.

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>>136988936
That's a weird message considering they still lean on Ben being the type of guy who'll just clobber somebody for insulting his appearance. Yeah, it doesn't actually happen with regular frequency, but that's still part of his characterization: short-tempered palooka from Yancy Street.


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>>136988936
i'm going to go controversial. if you took out the white cis man bait, /co/ would side with this bitch. her life is objectively shittier than ben's in every possible way

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>>136989325
I wouldn't side with her because Ben has unquestionably done much more good than she could ever hope to, making her estranged comparison pointless. A person's worth is not defined by what they DON'T have.


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>>136988936
i'm going to go controversial. if you took out the white cis man bait, /co/ would side with this bitch. her life is objectively shittier than ben's in every possible way

[Assistant]
Eh, fuggit, I'll post it myself.

This is one of the other mutants that are trying to tear down Ben for his words, btw, in case you had any doubts if we're supposed to side with these multi-assholed jerks

>>136989325
She lives on mutant sex island where she can be revived from death into a new perfect body, 3d print anything she wants, and fuck as much as she wants before dumping any kids in the bushes

She and the other mutants live a life of supreme luxury even compared to the everloving Thing

>>136989465
It's ironically too modern culture warrior for a mutant to spit out, especially when they repeatedly both take the position that they're an oppressed minority by the "flatscans" while simultaneously talking shit about how they're genetically superior and going to outbreed humanity in the near future.


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>>136989325
I wouldn't side with her because Ben has unquestionably done much more good than she could ever hope to, making her estranged comparison pointless. A person's worth is not defined by what they DON'T have.

[Assistant]
Eh, fuggit, I'll post it myself.

This is one of the other mutants that are trying to tear down Ben for his words, btw, in case you had any doubts if we're supposed to side with these multi-assholed jerks

>>136989325
She lives on mutant sex island where she can be revived from death into a new perfect body, 3d print anything she wants, and fuck as much as she wants before dumping any kids in the bushes

She and the other mutants live a life of supreme luxury even compared to the everloving Thing

>>136989465
It's ironically too modern culture warrior for a mutant to spit out, especially when they repeatedly both take the position that they're an oppressed minority by the "flatscans" while simultaneously talking shit about how they're genetically superior and going to outbreed humanity in the near future.


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>>136989017
>>136989056
Read the damn comic before you shitpost.

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>>136989436
I’m not shitposting for fuck sake. Engage in the conversation or fuck off


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Eh, fuggit, I'll post it myself.

This is one of the other mutants that are trying to tear down Ben for his words, btw, in case you had any doubts if we're supposed to side with these multi-assholed jerks

>>136989325
She lives on mutant sex island where she can be revived from death into a new perfect body, 3d print anything she wants, and fuck as much as she wants before dumping any kids in the bushes

She and the other mutants live a life of supreme luxury even compared to the everloving Thing

>>136989465
It's ironically too modern culture warrior for a mutant to spit out, especially when they repeatedly both take the position that they're an oppressed minority by the "flatscans" while simultaneously talking shit about how they're genetically superior and going to outbreed humanity in the near future.

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>>136989518
At least the writer understands how unbelievable it all is. It's so fucking goofy to see characters try to discuss in-universe geopolitical conflicts using the same language we would, when their world is filled with people and technologies that would put them in a Star Trek TNG setting if only writers knew how to make that interesting. How can you be unfairly exploited when you're the homo superior sitting in the cradle of a literal grassroots ethnostate? Who the fuck cares that Reed wants your shit. Muggas already engage in casual eugenics, just figure out how to make mutants who shit lithium or piss math theorems, boom now you'll never be short on commodities.


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Eh, fuggit, I'll post it myself.

This is one of the other mutants that are trying to tear down Ben for his words, btw, in case you had any doubts if we're supposed to side with these multi-assholed jerks

>>136989325
She lives on mutant sex island where she can be revived from death into a new perfect body, 3d print anything she wants, and fuck as much as she wants before dumping any kids in the bushes

She and the other mutants live a life of supreme luxury even compared to the everloving Thing

>>136989465
It's ironically too modern culture warrior for a mutant to spit out, especially when they repeatedly both take the position that they're an oppressed minority by the "flatscans" while simultaneously talking shit about how they're genetically superior and going to outbreed humanity in the near future.

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>>136989518
even if she became a supermodel she'd still have a childhood full of abuse


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>>136988892 (OP)
>i lived in the wild until i was 10
really? you were a feral child? and now you're an articulate, well-adjusted adult? this is why we can't have nice things

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>>136989256
It's like these kinds of people talk about their lives openly and exaggerate for pity and clout. People who actually were abused and went through shit don't throw it out there like you're trying to one-up someone's business card.


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>>136988892 (OP)
>i was born blind and that has been my reality since before i even had a thought
>i've suffered more than you, man who was blinded as an adult who was forced to relearn how you interact with the world in a context that is completely different than what you've known your entire life
>also you have a penis so that makes you more wronger


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>>136989518
At least the writer understands how unbelievable it all is. It's so fucking goofy to see characters try to discuss in-universe geopolitical conflicts using the same language we would, when their world is filled with people and technologies that would put them in a Star Trek TNG setting if only writers knew how to make that interesting. How can you be unfairly exploited when you're the homo superior sitting in the cradle of a literal grassroots ethnostate? Who the fuck cares that Reed wants your shit. Muggas already engage in casual eugenics, just figure out how to make mutants who shit lithium or piss math theorems, boom now you'll never be short on commodities.

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>>136989593
Feels like most of these writers really want to have their cake and eat it to. They want to use their books to explore how they want the world to be while simultaneously holding it up as a mirror to our reality for "commentary". It makes the kind of reality where characters will comment on someone else's "privilege" while ignoring they're a seven foot tall half-a-ton rock dude who originally couldn't move through doors or go out in public without the police outright shooting on him. It makes them look severely disconnected from their own reality, like watching someone throw a fit about mean twitter comments while Galactus is on a rampage right behind them.

>>136990349
The worse part is that he was trying to frame it as people being jealous of mutants for having a place where they aren't persecuted for being different...while talking to She-Hulk, someone who still routinely unnerves people by how big tall and green she is compared to them, especially during her "Jason Aaron made me the Hulk-lite" phase.


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[User] This reminds me, where's that panel where Wolverine basically said to She-Hulk that she has the benefit of being on a team like the Avengers where they're treated like celebrities, and that Krakoa is the best thing to happen to mutants? I thought it was funny on both ends of how much of a Krakoa simp he is, while at the same time trying to come off as the critical of it to make it seem like he's totally not like the others, and that Wolverine of all fucking characters had the nerve to get on She-Hulk for being on a team of "celebrities" when he was on it, too, and for an even worse reason, Tony thought that they needed a killer on the team.

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>>136989593
Feels like most of these writers really want to have their cake and eat it to. They want to use their books to explore how they want the world to be while simultaneously holding it up as a mirror to our reality for "commentary". It makes the kind of reality where characters will comment on someone else's "privilege" while ignoring they're a seven foot tall half-a-ton rock dude who originally couldn't move through doors or go out in public without the police outright shooting on him. It makes them look severely disconnected from their own reality, like watching someone throw a fit about mean twitter comments while Galactus is on a rampage right behind them.

>>136990349
The worse part is that he was trying to frame it as people being jealous of mutants for having a place where they aren't persecuted for being different...while talking to She-Hulk, someone who still routinely unnerves people by how big tall and green she is compared to them, especially during her "Jason Aaron made me the Hulk-lite" phase.


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>born this way
i thought the X gene didn't drop until you were a teen puberty or something. i know they have kid mutants but when did that change?

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>>136990425
You niggers just straigh up don't read comics huh?


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>>136988892 (OP)
Just to be clear and give context to OP’s pic, this is a mutant dissing Ben Grimm

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>>136988908
Where's the actual lie though?
Ben Grimm didn't have to go through puberty made of rock. He didn't have to live in the sewers like a Morlock. Nobody's trying to stone (heh) him because of his looks. He got to go to school and have a pretty normal childhood and date and do all the normal human shit until his accident and even then he was framed as a tragic hero for it.
He was maybe ostracized for his appearance for all of a couple weeks before Reed's marketing campaign kicked in. His experience IS fundamentally different from a mutant's.
But I guess because this bitch said the no no buzzwords that's all irrelevant?


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>>136988892 (OP)
People like that don't actually deserve to be treated better. Ugly, miserable, contribute nothing but political screeds. That's just an example of things being right with the universe
>>136990487
>Zoomer tries to be based while agreeing with what he was indoctrinated into
Read some books before the past decade and actually start to understand life.


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>>136988908
Where's the actual lie though?
Ben Grimm didn't have to go through puberty made of rock. He didn't have to live in the sewers like a Morlock. Nobody's trying to stone (heh) him because of his looks. He got to go to school and have a pretty normal childhood and date and do all the normal human shit until his accident and even then he was framed as a tragic hero for it.
He was maybe ostracized for his appearance for all of a couple weeks before Reed's marketing campaign kicked in. His experience IS fundamentally different from a mutant's.
But I guess because this bitch said the no no buzzwords that's all irrelevant?

[Assistant]
>>136988892 (OP)
People like that don't actually deserve to be treated better. Ugly, miserable, contribute nothing but political screeds. That's just an example of things being right with the universe
>>136990487
>Zoomer tries to be based while agreeing with what he was indoctrinated into
Read some books before the past decade and actually start to understand life.


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>>136988892 (OP)
>Ben: “What are you some kinda fag or sumting?”


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>>136989593
Feels like most of these writers really want to have their cake and eat it to. They want to use their books to explore how they want the world to be while simultaneously holding it up as a mirror to our reality for "commentary". It makes the kind of reality where characters will comment on someone else's "privilege" while ignoring they're a seven foot tall half-a-ton rock dude who originally couldn't move through doors or go out in public without the police outright shooting on him. It makes them look severely disconnected from their own reality, like watching someone throw a fit about mean twitter comments while Galactus is on a rampage right behind them.

>>136990349
The worse part is that he was trying to frame it as people being jealous of mutants for having a place where they aren't persecuted for being different...while talking to She-Hulk, someone who still routinely unnerves people by how big tall and green she is compared to them, especially during her "Jason Aaron made me the Hulk-lite" phase.

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>>136990470
>Wolverine
Grrr. Quiet Council think they can tell me what to do. Grr. Beast is doing unscrupulous things that get a lot of people killed, despite me also doing unscrupulous things that get a lot of people killed. Grr. Humans doing stupid human things messing up the world despite mutants unleashing horrors and upsetting the balance of existence.
>Also Wolverine
YOU JUST HATE US BECAUSE YOU AIN'T US. DISREGARD THE FACT THAT I AM BASICALLY A CELEBRITY MYSELF AND BEEN ON EVERY FUCKING TEAM EVER.

I get that being a massive hypocrite is basically a character trait for him, but fuck this bastard, seriously.
>>136990487
You can apply that shit to all of the other mutants that had normal lives until they got their mutations activated, too. Shit, it applies for all of the mutants that look normal yet still have useful powers.


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>>136988908
Where's the actual lie though?
Ben Grimm didn't have to go through puberty made of rock. He didn't have to live in the sewers like a Morlock. Nobody's trying to stone (heh) him because of his looks. He got to go to school and have a pretty normal childhood and date and do all the normal human shit until his accident and even then he was framed as a tragic hero for it.
He was maybe ostracized for his appearance for all of a couple weeks before Reed's marketing campaign kicked in. His experience IS fundamentally different from a mutant's.
But I guess because this bitch said the no no buzzwords that's all irrelevant?

[Assistant]
>>136990470
>Wolverine
Grrr. Quiet Council think they can tell me what to do. Grr. Beast is doing unscrupulous things that get a lot of people killed, despite me also doing unscrupulous things that get a lot of people killed. Grr. Humans doing stupid human things messing up the world despite mutants unleashing horrors and upsetting the balance of existence.
>Also Wolverine
YOU JUST HATE US BECAUSE YOU AIN'T US. DISREGARD THE FACT THAT I AM BASICALLY A CELEBRITY MYSELF AND BEEN ON EVERY FUCKING TEAM EVER.

I get that being a massive hypocrite is basically a character trait for him, but fuck this bastard, seriously.
>>136990487
You can apply that shit to all of the other mutants that had normal lives until they got their mutations activated, too. Shit, it applies for all of the mutants that look normal yet still have useful powers.


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>>136990425
You niggers just straigh up don't read comics huh?

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>>136990475
comics are for retards like YOU


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>>136988908
Where's the actual lie though?
Ben Grimm didn't have to go through puberty made of rock. He didn't have to live in the sewers like a Morlock. Nobody's trying to stone (heh) him because of his looks. He got to go to school and have a pretty normal childhood and date and do all the normal human shit until his accident and even then he was framed as a tragic hero for it.
He was maybe ostracized for his appearance for all of a couple weeks before Reed's marketing campaign kicked in. His experience IS fundamentally different from a mutant's.
But I guess because this bitch said the no no buzzwords that's all irrelevant?

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>>136990487
4chan gets assblasted about mutants, because getting ostractised by the normies for being objectively better and cooler than everyone else tends to be mary sue woe is me shit. but being born a pile of rocks and dumped in the garbage actually is an appropriate use of the oppression metaphor.


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>>136988908
Where's the actual lie though?
Ben Grimm didn't have to go through puberty made of rock. He didn't have to live in the sewers like a Morlock. Nobody's trying to stone (heh) him because of his looks. He got to go to school and have a pretty normal childhood and date and do all the normal human shit until his accident and even then he was framed as a tragic hero for it.
He was maybe ostracized for his appearance for all of a couple weeks before Reed's marketing campaign kicked in. His experience IS fundamentally different from a mutant's.
But I guess because this bitch said the no no buzzwords that's all irrelevant?

[Assistant]
>>136990487
Ever see that Simpsons episode "Homer's Enemy", where they introduced that guy Frank Grimes to commentate on how impossible it would be for a real person to live in Springfield? Through the whole episode, the guy is absolutely upset about how much of a buffoon Homer Simpson is and how he seems to gleefully skip through life without a care, getting to partake in such amazing life opportunities like winning a grammy or going into space.

The big issue is that Frank Grimes is right...only if you look at it in a total vacuum. Frank is only capable of judging that Homer got this amazing shit because he's never lived it. He sees that Homer owns a house with a wife and kids without knowing that Homer has repeatedly put off better life opportunities just for their sake. He sees Homer owned a grammy singing with the Be Sharps without knowing how much toil and sweat it took to get it. He sees Homer being looked upon well by his co-workers and screeching about it without considering these people have actually known Homer Simpson for years.

Yes, Ben Grimm's life is a lot more glamorous than hers at the present. But she doesn't have his life story. She doesn't know that he also grew up a poor kid on Yancy Street living with a deadbeat drunk dad, who watched his brother murdered by street gangs, and nearly fell into one until he was given a second chance. She doesn't know about the physical issues nor self-image problems he had to deal with due to his entire biology being rearranged. She doesn't recall that the dude outright puts his ass on the line every day to fight monsters that she would still cower from, even now, to earn the people's admiration.

Thing is, readers give a lot of leeway to protagonists like Ben Grim because we've seen that their lives aren't so glamorous as painted. Compared to a no-name introduced just to insult Ben by basically whining he's a normie, most people would rather stick to the guy who actually earned his respect with the readers.


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[User] Is it just cause white male writers genuinely don't know what the "CIS" part of "CIS white male" means or are they implying she's trans?

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>>136990649
It's short for Commits Intolerable Sins, like the sin of existing.


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>>136988892 (OP)
Just to be clear and give context to OP’s pic, this is a mutant dissing Ben Grimm

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>>136988908
hes right tho, grimm is a world renowned celebrity ( Cuz reed astutely knew he had to turn them into celebs for them not to be persecuted like the mutants, theres a great story where he narrates this to his kid ) , griimm is in no position to be talking about the monstrous, hes so rich that it barely affects him


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>>136988892 (OP)
>I was born like this
I thought the X Gene or whatever kicked in later, they must of shredded their mom's cooch.

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>>136989065
theres several kinds of mutants, several are born already monstrous ( but any powers only activate later on ) , nightcrawler is one of these, as is mystique. They dont have a "human" form.


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>>136990470
>Wolverine
Grrr. Quiet Council think they can tell me what to do. Grr. Beast is doing unscrupulous things that get a lot of people killed, despite me also doing unscrupulous things that get a lot of people killed. Grr. Humans doing stupid human things messing up the world despite mutants unleashing horrors and upsetting the balance of existence.
>Also Wolverine
YOU JUST HATE US BECAUSE YOU AIN'T US. DISREGARD THE FACT THAT I AM BASICALLY A CELEBRITY MYSELF AND BEEN ON EVERY FUCKING TEAM EVER.

I get that being a massive hypocrite is basically a character trait for him, but fuck this bastard, seriously.
>>136990487
You can apply that shit to all of the other mutants that had normal lives until they got their mutations activated, too. Shit, it applies for all of the mutants that look normal yet still have useful powers.

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>>136990591
>You can apply that shit to all of the other mutants that had normal lives until they got their mutations activated, too. Shit, it applies for all of the mutants that look normal yet still have useful powers.
Yes, you absolutely can. Pic related. I've always thought the "model" mutants have it on easy mode compared to the freaks.


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>>136988908
Where's the actual lie though?
Ben Grimm didn't have to go through puberty made of rock. He didn't have to live in the sewers like a Morlock. Nobody's trying to stone (heh) him because of his looks. He got to go to school and have a pretty normal childhood and date and do all the normal human shit until his accident and even then he was framed as a tragic hero for it.
He was maybe ostracized for his appearance for all of a couple weeks before Reed's marketing campaign kicked in. His experience IS fundamentally different from a mutant's.
But I guess because this bitch said the no no buzzwords that's all irrelevant?

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>>136990487
Is the retcon about Morlocks willingly disfiguring themselves still canon?


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>>136990487
Ever see that Simpsons episode "Homer's Enemy", where they introduced that guy Frank Grimes to commentate on how impossible it would be for a real person to live in Springfield? Through the whole episode, the guy is absolutely upset about how much of a buffoon Homer Simpson is and how he seems to gleefully skip through life without a care, getting to partake in such amazing life opportunities like winning a grammy or going into space.

The big issue is that Frank Grimes is right...only if you look at it in a total vacuum. Frank is only capable of judging that Homer got this amazing shit because he's never lived it. He sees that Homer owns a house with a wife and kids without knowing that Homer has repeatedly put off better life opportunities just for their sake. He sees Homer owned a grammy singing with the Be Sharps without knowing how much toil and sweat it took to get it. He sees Homer being looked upon well by his co-workers and screeching about it without considering these people have actually known Homer Simpson for years.

Yes, Ben Grimm's life is a lot more glamorous than hers at the present. But she doesn't have his life story. She doesn't know that he also grew up a poor kid on Yancy Street living with a deadbeat drunk dad, who watched his brother murdered by street gangs, and nearly fell into one until he was given a second chance. She doesn't know about the physical issues nor self-image problems he had to deal with due to his entire biology being rearranged. She doesn't recall that the dude outright puts his ass on the line every day to fight monsters that she would still cower from, even now, to earn the people's admiration.

Thing is, readers give a lot of leeway to protagonists like Ben Grim because we've seen that their lives aren't so glamorous as painted. Compared to a no-name introduced just to insult Ben by basically whining he's a normie, most people would rather stick to the guy who actually earned his respect with the readers.

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>>136990672
that's a lot of words to explain we like the protagonist because he's the protagonist


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>>136988908
Where's the actual lie though?
Ben Grimm didn't have to go through puberty made of rock. He didn't have to live in the sewers like a Morlock. Nobody's trying to stone (heh) him because of his looks. He got to go to school and have a pretty normal childhood and date and do all the normal human shit until his accident and even then he was framed as a tragic hero for it.
He was maybe ostracized for his appearance for all of a couple weeks before Reed's marketing campaign kicked in. His experience IS fundamentally different from a mutant's.
But I guess because this bitch said the no no buzzwords that's all irrelevant?

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>>136990487
When Ben was a child, Daniel (his older brother) tried to provide for his family with ill-gotten gains from gang activity. This created much tension in the family, as the Grimm household struggled to make ends meet thanks to Daniel Grimm, Sr.'s alcoholism. Many of the Yancy Street Gang's meetings under Daniel's leadership were done in the Grimm family kitchen, while Daniel and Ben's parents were out. Daniel often brought Ben out on the gang's various rumbles.

One night Daniel sneaked out of the house to join the gang in a fight against the Thompson Avenue Gang, unaware that Ben was following him. During the fight, Daniel was fatally stabbed. He died before the authorities arrived at the scene. Both gangs fled, leaving Ben to be picked up by the police. Ben eventually sought to join the Yancy Street Gang. As part of his initiation, Ben stole a golden Star of David pendant from Hiram Sheckerberg, the owner of the local pawnshop.

10 years after his brother's murder, Ben was the leader of the gang. Ben was quickly pulled from the gang shortly thereafter, when his parents died and he was forced to live with his uncle Jake and aunt Alyce. When Ben attempted to call a meeting with the gang, they rejected him for "abandoning" them. They dumped a can of garbage of his head and called him a deserter, ending his leadership with the group. Deciding to devote himself to his new life, Ben was given every opportunity available. Ben moved on from his former life, becoming a high school and college football champion and later a test pilot. Many years later, Ben was involved in the rocket flight accident that caused the birth of the Fantastic Four, becoming the stone-skinned monster known as the Thing.

You're right, Ben Grimm wasn't a morlock living in a sewer, he was a teenage crook who got ousted by his band of street toughs who then picked himself up and made something out of himself.

Even If he'd never become The Thing, he'd still be a pretty amazing guy.


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>>136988892 (OP)
i mean, to be fair, she's right, Ben Grimm got dealt the lightest bad hand ever


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>>136988908
hes right tho, grimm is a world renowned celebrity ( Cuz reed astutely knew he had to turn them into celebs for them not to be persecuted like the mutants, theres a great story where he narrates this to his kid ) , griimm is in no position to be talking about the monstrous, hes so rich that it barely affects him

[Assistant] >>136990693


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[Assistant] >>136991092


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Eh, fuggit, I'll post it myself.

This is one of the other mutants that are trying to tear down Ben for his words, btw, in case you had any doubts if we're supposed to side with these multi-assholed jerks

>>136989325
She lives on mutant sex island where she can be revived from death into a new perfect body, 3d print anything she wants, and fuck as much as she wants before dumping any kids in the bushes

She and the other mutants live a life of supreme luxury even compared to the everloving Thing

>>136989465
It's ironically too modern culture warrior for a mutant to spit out, especially when they repeatedly both take the position that they're an oppressed minority by the "flatscans" while simultaneously talking shit about how they're genetically superior and going to outbreed humanity in the near future.

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>>136989518
>She and the other mutants live a life of supreme luxury even compared to the everloving Thing
I'd actually argue Ben lives a much better life than 90% of mutants on Krakoa.


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>>136990487
When Ben was a child, Daniel (his older brother) tried to provide for his family with ill-gotten gains from gang activity. This created much tension in the family, as the Grimm household struggled to make ends meet thanks to Daniel Grimm, Sr.'s alcoholism. Many of the Yancy Street Gang's meetings under Daniel's leadership were done in the Grimm family kitchen, while Daniel and Ben's parents were out. Daniel often brought Ben out on the gang's various rumbles.

One night Daniel sneaked out of the house to join the gang in a fight against the Thompson Avenue Gang, unaware that Ben was following him. During the fight, Daniel was fatally stabbed. He died before the authorities arrived at the scene. Both gangs fled, leaving Ben to be picked up by the police. Ben eventually sought to join the Yancy Street Gang. As part of his initiation, Ben stole a golden Star of David pendant from Hiram Sheckerberg, the owner of the local pawnshop.

10 years after his brother's murder, Ben was the leader of the gang. Ben was quickly pulled from the gang shortly thereafter, when his parents died and he was forced to live with his uncle Jake and aunt Alyce. When Ben attempted to call a meeting with the gang, they rejected him for "abandoning" them. They dumped a can of garbage of his head and called him a deserter, ending his leadership with the group. Deciding to devote himself to his new life, Ben was given every opportunity available. Ben moved on from his former life, becoming a high school and college football champion and later a test pilot. Many years later, Ben was involved in the rocket flight accident that caused the birth of the Fantastic Four, becoming the stone-skinned monster known as the Thing.

You're right, Ben Grimm wasn't a morlock living in a sewer, he was a teenage crook who got ousted by his band of street toughs who then picked himself up and made something out of himself.

Even If he'd never become The Thing, he'd still be a pretty amazing guy.

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>>136991043
is this part of that continutity bloat which probably isnt even canon at this point


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>>136991043
is this part of that continutity bloat which probably isnt even canon at this point

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>>136991160
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Thing_Vol_1_1

If you consider The Thing's own book from the 80's continuity bloat.


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[User] The FF literally cured Franklin of his mutant powers when they thought it could be too much, they had that option, they are so rich they just chose not to be mutants.

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>>136991229
Franklin's thing turned out to be that he made himself into a mutant with his reality warping powers so he could fit in and be cool.


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>>136991229
Franklin's thing turned out to be that he made himself into a mutant with his reality warping powers so he could fit in and be cool.

[Assistant]
>>136991249
culture appropriating little bastard


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>>136991249
culture appropriating little bastard

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>>136991276
Does it count if you're doing it unconsciously


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>>136988936
i'm going to go controversial. if you took out the white cis man bait, /co/ would side with this bitch. her life is objectively shittier than ben's in every possible way

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>>136989325
The problem is this bitch decided to trauma dump on him over the smallest fucking thing. He said they're still the same underneath all the rocks. Then she threw a shit-fit because she got compared to a man.


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>>136990672
that's a lot of words to explain we like the protagonist because he's the protagonist

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>>136991007
Eh, I just felt like kvetching because I see people keep falling for bait pages like these due to forgetting the other half of the equation: That the people doing the complaining in these stories are supposed to be massively ignorant to what the protagonist has lived through, and on the rare occasion that they get a hint as to how much shit the main character's gone through they immediately shut their gob or take back their words because they understand better.

Like that one reporter chick from Immortal Hulk who everyone understandably got irate from because she claimed to the Hulk that men like Bruce Banner had "white privilege" and power she wishes she had...due to the fact she's never been inside the whirlwind of The Hulk's life, only catching photos and reporting it after the fact, and as a result under the completely false impression that a) Any of the Hulks see themselves as Banner, b) That the heroes treat The Hulk with kid gloves by sending him away when in fact they're enacting what they consider last resort plans due to the quiet admission they can't ever trust The Hulk to be around other people, and c) That the world has ever tried to understand the Hulk's boundless rage. The fact that Devil Hulk doesn't snip back at her makes it seem like he's in agreement, when it's clear that he's happy that someone finally admitted they're jealous of the Hulk's power instead of hiding it behind their fear of him. The minute she does get a taste of what the Hulk's world is like, though, she immediately regrets all the shittalk she gave to him, realizing that there's nothing envious about the Hulk's life or power when you're forced to endure it instead of watching it from afar.

I do admit that I'm slightly irked that most writers now making headline bait like this never give the protagonists a chance to really prove their cardboard detractors wrong, but then again, most modern comics are shit like that, so par for course.


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>>136989593
Feels like most of these writers really want to have their cake and eat it to. They want to use their books to explore how they want the world to be while simultaneously holding it up as a mirror to our reality for "commentary". It makes the kind of reality where characters will comment on someone else's "privilege" while ignoring they're a seven foot tall half-a-ton rock dude who originally couldn't move through doors or go out in public without the police outright shooting on him. It makes them look severely disconnected from their own reality, like watching someone throw a fit about mean twitter comments while Galactus is on a rampage right behind them.

>>136990349
The worse part is that he was trying to frame it as people being jealous of mutants for having a place where they aren't persecuted for being different...while talking to She-Hulk, someone who still routinely unnerves people by how big tall and green she is compared to them, especially during her "Jason Aaron made me the Hulk-lite" phase.

[Assistant]
>>136990470
Wolverine the superhero equivalent of all those blonde white thots who drew BLM on their faces and started twerking in front of ghetto dudes wearing IF THE COPS START SHOOTING STAND BEHIND ME shirts the second the BLM riots started up. Or one of those milquetoast white stand up comedians who who started going on podcasts and claiming he was part of THE RESISTANCE not even two weeks after the 2016 election.

He's just so damn fucking happy to have a crusade he can shoehorn himself into.


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>>136991229
Franklin's thing turned out to be that he made himself into a mutant with his reality warping powers so he could fit in and be cool.

[Assistant]
>>136991249
thjats what reed wants you to think, otherwise he has to admit he can cure mutants.


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>>136991007
Eh, I just felt like kvetching because I see people keep falling for bait pages like these due to forgetting the other half of the equation: That the people doing the complaining in these stories are supposed to be massively ignorant to what the protagonist has lived through, and on the rare occasion that they get a hint as to how much shit the main character's gone through they immediately shut their gob or take back their words because they understand better.

Like that one reporter chick from Immortal Hulk who everyone understandably got irate from because she claimed to the Hulk that men like Bruce Banner had "white privilege" and power she wishes she had...due to the fact she's never been inside the whirlwind of The Hulk's life, only catching photos and reporting it after the fact, and as a result under the completely false impression that a) Any of the Hulks see themselves as Banner, b) That the heroes treat The Hulk with kid gloves by sending him away when in fact they're enacting what they consider last resort plans due to the quiet admission they can't ever trust The Hulk to be around other people, and c) That the world has ever tried to understand the Hulk's boundless rage. The fact that Devil Hulk doesn't snip back at her makes it seem like he's in agreement, when it's clear that he's happy that someone finally admitted they're jealous of the Hulk's power instead of hiding it behind their fear of him. The minute she does get a taste of what the Hulk's world is like, though, she immediately regrets all the shittalk she gave to him, realizing that there's nothing envious about the Hulk's life or power when you're forced to endure it instead of watching it from afar.

I do admit that I'm slightly irked that most writers now making headline bait like this never give the protagonists a chance to really prove their cardboard detractors wrong, but then again, most modern comics are shit like that, so par for course.

[Assistant]
>>136991486
I mean she was tangentially touched by the whirlwind, he did kinda cause her dad's death.


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>>136991249
thjats what reed wants you to think, otherwise he has to admit he can cure mutants.

[Assistant]
>>136991667
It wasn't Reed who told Franky.


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>>136991007
Eh, I just felt like kvetching because I see people keep falling for bait pages like these due to forgetting the other half of the equation: That the people doing the complaining in these stories are supposed to be massively ignorant to what the protagonist has lived through, and on the rare occasion that they get a hint as to how much shit the main character's gone through they immediately shut their gob or take back their words because they understand better.

Like that one reporter chick from Immortal Hulk who everyone understandably got irate from because she claimed to the Hulk that men like Bruce Banner had "white privilege" and power she wishes she had...due to the fact she's never been inside the whirlwind of The Hulk's life, only catching photos and reporting it after the fact, and as a result under the completely false impression that a) Any of the Hulks see themselves as Banner, b) That the heroes treat The Hulk with kid gloves by sending him away when in fact they're enacting what they consider last resort plans due to the quiet admission they can't ever trust The Hulk to be around other people, and c) That the world has ever tried to understand the Hulk's boundless rage. The fact that Devil Hulk doesn't snip back at her makes it seem like he's in agreement, when it's clear that he's happy that someone finally admitted they're jealous of the Hulk's power instead of hiding it behind their fear of him. The minute she does get a taste of what the Hulk's world is like, though, she immediately regrets all the shittalk she gave to him, realizing that there's nothing envious about the Hulk's life or power when you're forced to endure it instead of watching it from afar.

I do admit that I'm slightly irked that most writers now making headline bait like this never give the protagonists a chance to really prove their cardboard detractors wrong, but then again, most modern comics are shit like that, so par for course.

[Assistant]
>>136991486
The problem I have is that this is so disingenuously a no-lose situation for the author. He gets the benefit of people like you defending the nuance of his stories when he actually shows the proud black woman to be ignorant. It's like a shield for criticism of having this page you posted here in the first place.

I can't help but notice you not posting her comeuppance. How can you, when it never comes in the form of a Buzzfeed / VICE / whatever friendly #YAASQUEENSLAAAAY one page shot like the one you posted here. When I see a page like this, I automatically mentally see it slapped on top of a dozen pink and purple CURRENT YEAR friendly virtue signal booster articles because that's clearly what it's intended to be.


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>>136991667
It wasn't Reed who told Franky.

[Assistant]
>>136991779
A few weeks(?) earlier.


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>>136991486
The problem I have is that this is so disingenuously a no-lose situation for the author. He gets the benefit of people like you defending the nuance of his stories when he actually shows the proud black woman to be ignorant. It's like a shield for criticism of having this page you posted here in the first place.

I can't help but notice you not posting her comeuppance. How can you, when it never comes in the form of a Buzzfeed / VICE / whatever friendly #YAASQUEENSLAAAAY one page shot like the one you posted here. When I see a page like this, I automatically mentally see it slapped on top of a dozen pink and purple CURRENT YEAR friendly virtue signal booster articles because that's clearly what it's intended to be.

[Assistant]
>>136991804
>When I see a page like this, I automatically mentally see it slapped on top of a dozen pink and purple CURRENT YEAR friendly virtue signal booster articles because that's clearly what it's intended to be.
I'm telling you right now, nothing about that is intended, you simply have brainworms.


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>>136991007
Eh, I just felt like kvetching because I see people keep falling for bait pages like these due to forgetting the other half of the equation: That the people doing the complaining in these stories are supposed to be massively ignorant to what the protagonist has lived through, and on the rare occasion that they get a hint as to how much shit the main character's gone through they immediately shut their gob or take back their words because they understand better.

Like that one reporter chick from Immortal Hulk who everyone understandably got irate from because she claimed to the Hulk that men like Bruce Banner had "white privilege" and power she wishes she had...due to the fact she's never been inside the whirlwind of The Hulk's life, only catching photos and reporting it after the fact, and as a result under the completely false impression that a) Any of the Hulks see themselves as Banner, b) That the heroes treat The Hulk with kid gloves by sending him away when in fact they're enacting what they consider last resort plans due to the quiet admission they can't ever trust The Hulk to be around other people, and c) That the world has ever tried to understand the Hulk's boundless rage. The fact that Devil Hulk doesn't snip back at her makes it seem like he's in agreement, when it's clear that he's happy that someone finally admitted they're jealous of the Hulk's power instead of hiding it behind their fear of him. The minute she does get a taste of what the Hulk's world is like, though, she immediately regrets all the shittalk she gave to him, realizing that there's nothing envious about the Hulk's life or power when you're forced to endure it instead of watching it from afar.

I do admit that I'm slightly irked that most writers now making headline bait like this never give the protagonists a chance to really prove their cardboard detractors wrong, but then again, most modern comics are shit like that, so par for course.

[Assistant]
>>136991486
and once again, if this was a white male firefighter complaining that hulk was a dumb brute asshole who ruins as many lives than he saves, /co/ would agree with him. truly it's all in the presentation


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>>136988892 (OP)
Dropping a microphone is rude and juvenile behavior, since the microphone in question is rarely the speaker's.
It's the public speaking equivalent of flipping the game board or breaking a toy so no one else can play.


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>>136991486
The problem I have is that this is so disingenuously a no-lose situation for the author. He gets the benefit of people like you defending the nuance of his stories when he actually shows the proud black woman to be ignorant. It's like a shield for criticism of having this page you posted here in the first place.

I can't help but notice you not posting her comeuppance. How can you, when it never comes in the form of a Buzzfeed / VICE / whatever friendly #YAASQUEENSLAAAAY one page shot like the one you posted here. When I see a page like this, I automatically mentally see it slapped on top of a dozen pink and purple CURRENT YEAR friendly virtue signal booster articles because that's clearly what it's intended to be.

[Assistant]
>>136991804
Don't worry, man, I got no problem digging it out. As far as what her comeuppance was, turns out that when you get involved in gamma radiation, not everyone gets to live out their YAASQUEENSLAAAAY feminist fantasies smashing everything to their hearts content. Turns out that you can end up with the other kind of powers, the kind that allows you to see gamma ghosts everywhere. Essentially, she now gets to literally see the world the Hulk does, permanently, and she's pissed and bitter about it as she rightfully should be.

For what it's worth, I'm not a fan of the character, but I'm at least appreciative of the fact that the author wanted to write in someone who was new to the Hulk's world and showed their transition from spouting off the party line about The Hulk to someone willing to defend him after experiencing how chaotic and painful his life really is.


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>>136991804
Don't worry, man, I got no problem digging it out. As far as what her comeuppance was, turns out that when you get involved in gamma radiation, not everyone gets to live out their YAASQUEENSLAAAAY feminist fantasies smashing everything to their hearts content. Turns out that you can end up with the other kind of powers, the kind that allows you to see gamma ghosts everywhere. Essentially, she now gets to literally see the world the Hulk does, permanently, and she's pissed and bitter about it as she rightfully should be.

For what it's worth, I'm not a fan of the character, but I'm at least appreciative of the fact that the author wanted to write in someone who was new to the Hulk's world and showed their transition from spouting off the party line about The Hulk to someone willing to defend him after experiencing how chaotic and painful his life really is.

[Assistant]
>>136991986
>wah I don't like my superpower because I can't be a violent asshat whenever I don't like something wah
What an insufferable cunt.


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>>136991667
It wasn't Reed who told Franky.

[Assistant]
>>136991779
Does this mean Gwenpool is a more powerful reality warper than Franklin


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>>136988892 (OP)
>a human wrote this
Let that sink in


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>>136991486
and once again, if this was a white male firefighter complaining that hulk was a dumb brute asshole who ruins as many lives than he saves, /co/ would agree with him. truly it's all in the presentation

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>>136991905
Or maybe people are mad because that bitch isn't just blaming Hulk for doing shitty things but crying and portraying herself as a victim because she isn't allowed to also do shitty things because of da whiiiiiiiiiiiite men


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>>136988892 (OP)
Mic drops are supposed to be a cool after jam session thing or after spitting a sick rap number, not cringe


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>>136988892 (OP)
Is that fucking handsome Squidward


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>>136988892 (OP)
>Ben grew up in Brooklyn.
>Ben is jewish
>Ben achieved many great things after his transformation both in spite of his appearance and using it to benefit
>He needed to invent a new kind of toilet just to handle his shits. I bet rock girl just shits in the driveway.

Sit down, pebble mutant bitch!


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>>136988936
That's a weird message considering they still lean on Ben being the type of guy who'll just clobber somebody for insulting his appearance. Yeah, it doesn't actually happen with regular frequency, but that's still part of his characterization: short-tempered palooka from Yancy Street.

[Assistant]
>>136989464
>>136988936

I dont follow Thing but I thought he was always the better man and never clobbered normal people for insulting him. In the cartoons and movies I dont think he has ever had such temper problems that he hit people, just the odd lamp post after he gets sullen about his looks.

He runs butts with the Hulk for god's sake. He knows what unregulated anger looks like.


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>>136988892 (OP)
Reminder that you're not supposed to side with this person and the entire context is that Ben has learned to be the bigger man because in the past he resorted to violence when dealing with idiots. This is just another case of an anon taking something out of context to generate rage.

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>>136989464
>>136988936

I dont follow Thing but I thought he was always the better man and never clobbered normal people for insulting him. In the cartoons and movies I dont think he has ever had such temper problems that he hit people, just the odd lamp post after he gets sullen about his looks.

He runs butts with the Hulk for god's sake. He knows what unregulated anger looks like.


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>>136988892 (OP)
Cool it with the antisemitism, grootina.


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>>136991667
It wasn't Reed who told Franky.

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>>136991779
reed literally wiped it out and xavier wiped it ouf ot his head. xavier is lying here because he wants to cover the tracks.


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[User] >>136990693

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>>136991092
>>136991105
Kino


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[User] >>136991092

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>>136991092
>>136991105
Kino


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>>136991486
and once again, if this was a white male firefighter complaining that hulk was a dumb brute asshole who ruins as many lives than he saves, /co/ would agree with him. truly it's all in the presentation

[Assistant]
>>136991905
Yes, we don't like blacks or women.
Problem?


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>>136990487
4chan gets assblasted about mutants, because getting ostractised by the normies for being objectively better and cooler than everyone else tends to be mary sue woe is me shit. but being born a pile of rocks and dumped in the garbage actually is an appropriate use of the oppression metaphor.

[Assistant]
>>136990608
The oppression metaphor stops working when you're an immortal living in a post scarcity utopia who can get a new body on demand. It especially doesn't work when said utopia actively uses violence to maintain a pharmaceutical monopoly that they exploit for complete legal immunity for all mutants, actively engages in exploitative, corporate-controlled colonialism, and economically intereferes (when they're not actively engaging in military actions against repressed peoples) with galactic society for the benefit of a stagnant dictatorship headed by the child of what is the defacto ruler of their island.


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[User] You know, I think, just a good policy, if someone is being a dipshit, and posting panels out of context, someone should just storytime the comics, to refute their point

[Assistant]
>>136989307
I agree, but I'd expand that to just saying that more storytimes are good.

That include storytimes of pain.


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>>136991667
It wasn't Reed who told Franky.

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>>136991779
You know, I bet Franklin could cure unwanted mutations.

>>136991905
Hey noobcakes. No problem with the shitposting, but do it with actual /co/ images. We have standards here.


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>>136991486
and once again, if this was a white male firefighter complaining that hulk was a dumb brute asshole who ruins as many lives than he saves, /co/ would agree with him. truly it's all in the presentation

[Assistant]
>>136991779
You know, I bet Franklin could cure unwanted mutations.

>>136991905
Hey noobcakes. No problem with the shitposting, but do it with actual /co/ images. We have standards here.


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>>136988892 (OP)
That one scene with Batman saying kids don't belong in the family business and the
>Im taking this from you? The guy that's gone through 4 robins?!


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>>136988892 (OP)
Isn't The Thing Jewish?

[Assistant]
>>136988922
OH no no no Krakoabros!
It's over


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>>136988936
i'm going to go controversial. if you took out the white cis man bait, /co/ would side with this bitch. her life is objectively shittier than ben's in every possible way

[Assistant]
>>136989325
No because now she's making the argument into a "Opression/Trauma Olympics" where she now has to compare and quanitify the pain of others and argue how one person's misery isn't "as valid" as another. This shit is bad for everyone, including minorities because it puts a halt from said minorities working together as an actual unit that has faced opression and instead starts abritraly dividing others.

Why argue about what is considered "real trauma" and not just, you know, focus on the actual current systems keeping people down?


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>>136989006
He's right though, Krakoa is presented as "correct" from a narrative perspective in all other books. Even when Banner was broadcasting his intention to destroy society for being shit, he mentioned Krakoa was an exception.
Regardless of the original intention of the storyline, a lot of Marvel writers have just accepted Krakoa as a minority paradise where even the worst occurrences cannot be compared to the horrors of society outside of Krakoa.

[Assistant]
>>136989078
>He's right though, Krakoa is presented as "correct" from a narrative perspective in all other books.
You haven't read Hellions, X-Force, Wolverine, or Sabretooth, have you anon?


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>>136990470
Wolverine the superhero equivalent of all those blonde white thots who drew BLM on their faces and started twerking in front of ghetto dudes wearing IF THE COPS START SHOOTING STAND BEHIND ME shirts the second the BLM riots started up. Or one of those milquetoast white stand up comedians who who started going on podcasts and claiming he was part of THE RESISTANCE not even two weeks after the 2016 election.

He's just so damn fucking happy to have a crusade he can shoehorn himself into.

[Assistant]
>>136991543
to be fair he would definitely tank the police’s bullets well.


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>>136988936
Anon do you think people here read comics or go for context? They just want to he angry. There's literally a thread up about a guy angry that there's a female colossus becaise je thinks she replaced regular colossus without ever reading the comic that she's from an alt timeline

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>>136988983
That post wasn't even angry, it was literally just asking a question


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>>136990487
Ever see that Simpsons episode "Homer's Enemy", where they introduced that guy Frank Grimes to commentate on how impossible it would be for a real person to live in Springfield? Through the whole episode, the guy is absolutely upset about how much of a buffoon Homer Simpson is and how he seems to gleefully skip through life without a care, getting to partake in such amazing life opportunities like winning a grammy or going into space.

The big issue is that Frank Grimes is right...only if you look at it in a total vacuum. Frank is only capable of judging that Homer got this amazing shit because he's never lived it. He sees that Homer owns a house with a wife and kids without knowing that Homer has repeatedly put off better life opportunities just for their sake. He sees Homer owned a grammy singing with the Be Sharps without knowing how much toil and sweat it took to get it. He sees Homer being looked upon well by his co-workers and screeching about it without considering these people have actually known Homer Simpson for years.

Yes, Ben Grimm's life is a lot more glamorous than hers at the present. But she doesn't have his life story. She doesn't know that he also grew up a poor kid on Yancy Street living with a deadbeat drunk dad, who watched his brother murdered by street gangs, and nearly fell into one until he was given a second chance. She doesn't know about the physical issues nor self-image problems he had to deal with due to his entire biology being rearranged. She doesn't recall that the dude outright puts his ass on the line every day to fight monsters that she would still cower from, even now, to earn the people's admiration.

Thing is, readers give a lot of leeway to protagonists like Ben Grim because we've seen that their lives aren't so glamorous as painted. Compared to a no-name introduced just to insult Ben by basically whining he's a normie, most people would rather stick to the guy who actually earned his respect with the readers.

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>>136990672
You...I like you


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>>136988936
i'm going to go controversial. if you took out the white cis man bait, /co/ would side with this bitch. her life is objectively shittier than ben's in every possible way

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>>136989325
This


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>>136989593
Feels like most of these writers really want to have their cake and eat it to. They want to use their books to explore how they want the world to be while simultaneously holding it up as a mirror to our reality for "commentary". It makes the kind of reality where characters will comment on someone else's "privilege" while ignoring they're a seven foot tall half-a-ton rock dude who originally couldn't move through doors or go out in public without the police outright shooting on him. It makes them look severely disconnected from their own reality, like watching someone throw a fit about mean twitter comments while Galactus is on a rampage right behind them.

>>136990349
The worse part is that he was trying to frame it as people being jealous of mutants for having a place where they aren't persecuted for being different...while talking to She-Hulk, someone who still routinely unnerves people by how big tall and green she is compared to them, especially during her "Jason Aaron made me the Hulk-lite" phase.

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>>136990470
>>136988892 (OP)
both are right
>>136989518
It is obvious that they show him that he is wrong


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>>136990470
>>136988892 (OP)
both are right
>>136989518
It is obvious that they show him that he is wrong


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Eh, fuggit, I'll post it myself.

This is one of the other mutants that are trying to tear down Ben for his words, btw, in case you had any doubts if we're supposed to side with these multi-assholed jerks

>>136989325
She lives on mutant sex island where she can be revived from death into a new perfect body, 3d print anything she wants, and fuck as much as she wants before dumping any kids in the bushes

She and the other mutants live a life of supreme luxury even compared to the everloving Thing

>>136989465
It's ironically too modern culture warrior for a mutant to spit out, especially when they repeatedly both take the position that they're an oppressed minority by the "flatscans" while simultaneously talking shit about how they're genetically superior and going to outbreed humanity in the near future.

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>>136990470
>>136988892 (OP)
both are right
>>136989518
It is obvious that they show him that he is wrong


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>>136991092
>>136991105
Reed's guilt over the space flight always makes for some kino desu


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>>136991092
>>136991105
Reed's guilt over the space flight always makes for some kino desu


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>>136990672
You...I like you

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>>136994895
Cringe


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>>136994895
Cringe

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>>136995034
dilate


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>>136990487
Ever see that Simpsons episode "Homer's Enemy", where they introduced that guy Frank Grimes to commentate on how impossible it would be for a real person to live in Springfield? Through the whole episode, the guy is absolutely upset about how much of a buffoon Homer Simpson is and how he seems to gleefully skip through life without a care, getting to partake in such amazing life opportunities like winning a grammy or going into space.

The big issue is that Frank Grimes is right...only if you look at it in a total vacuum. Frank is only capable of judging that Homer got this amazing shit because he's never lived it. He sees that Homer owns a house with a wife and kids without knowing that Homer has repeatedly put off better life opportunities just for their sake. He sees Homer owned a grammy singing with the Be Sharps without knowing how much toil and sweat it took to get it. He sees Homer being looked upon well by his co-workers and screeching about it without considering these people have actually known Homer Simpson for years.

Yes, Ben Grimm's life is a lot more glamorous than hers at the present. But she doesn't have his life story. She doesn't know that he also grew up a poor kid on Yancy Street living with a deadbeat drunk dad, who watched his brother murdered by street gangs, and nearly fell into one until he was given a second chance. She doesn't know about the physical issues nor self-image problems he had to deal with due to his entire biology being rearranged. She doesn't recall that the dude outright puts his ass on the line every day to fight monsters that she would still cower from, even now, to earn the people's admiration.

Thing is, readers give a lot of leeway to protagonists like Ben Grim because we've seen that their lives aren't so glamorous as painted. Compared to a no-name introduced just to insult Ben by basically whining he's a normie, most people would rather stick to the guy who actually earned his respect with the readers.

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>>136990672
>Yes, Ben Grimm's life is a lot more glamorous than hers at the present. But she doesn't have his life story.
You know I actually wonder about that. This is the Marvel Universe where we know for a fact that Captain America drew comics about his that there are in universe comics that accurate enough to be court admissible documents. We know Kamala is a superhero superfan so there's a fan community. How do we know Ben Grimm doesn't have a wikipedia page that the 4chan of that universe (because again we know 4chan exists in 616) is on highlighting that early life section?


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>>136989593
Feels like most of these writers really want to have their cake and eat it to. They want to use their books to explore how they want the world to be while simultaneously holding it up as a mirror to our reality for "commentary". It makes the kind of reality where characters will comment on someone else's "privilege" while ignoring they're a seven foot tall half-a-ton rock dude who originally couldn't move through doors or go out in public without the police outright shooting on him. It makes them look severely disconnected from their own reality, like watching someone throw a fit about mean twitter comments while Galactus is on a rampage right behind them.

>>136990349
The worse part is that he was trying to frame it as people being jealous of mutants for having a place where they aren't persecuted for being different...while talking to She-Hulk, someone who still routinely unnerves people by how big tall and green she is compared to them, especially during her "Jason Aaron made me the Hulk-lite" phase.

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>>136990470
I'd say the worst part is him dealing with a mutant criminal by killing him so he can be resurrected (eventually...) and judged by Krakoans for breaking their laws despite not being Krakoan.


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>>136995128
life is funny like that


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>>136990487
Ever see that Simpsons episode "Homer's Enemy", where they introduced that guy Frank Grimes to commentate on how impossible it would be for a real person to live in Springfield? Through the whole episode, the guy is absolutely upset about how much of a buffoon Homer Simpson is and how he seems to gleefully skip through life without a care, getting to partake in such amazing life opportunities like winning a grammy or going into space.

The big issue is that Frank Grimes is right...only if you look at it in a total vacuum. Frank is only capable of judging that Homer got this amazing shit because he's never lived it. He sees that Homer owns a house with a wife and kids without knowing that Homer has repeatedly put off better life opportunities just for their sake. He sees Homer owned a grammy singing with the Be Sharps without knowing how much toil and sweat it took to get it. He sees Homer being looked upon well by his co-workers and screeching about it without considering these people have actually known Homer Simpson for years.

Yes, Ben Grimm's life is a lot more glamorous than hers at the present. But she doesn't have his life story. She doesn't know that he also grew up a poor kid on Yancy Street living with a deadbeat drunk dad, who watched his brother murdered by street gangs, and nearly fell into one until he was given a second chance. She doesn't know about the physical issues nor self-image problems he had to deal with due to his entire biology being rearranged. She doesn't recall that the dude outright puts his ass on the line every day to fight monsters that she would still cower from, even now, to earn the people's admiration.

Thing is, readers give a lot of leeway to protagonists like Ben Grim because we've seen that their lives aren't so glamorous as painted. Compared to a no-name introduced just to insult Ben by basically whining he's a normie, most people would rather stick to the guy who actually earned his respect with the readers.

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>>136990672
Couldn't have written it better. It's why I never got that upset over that other ragebait involving the Hulk and that black lady either. Unfortunately "cis" is a kill word that drains the IQ of most 4channers upon viewing it.


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>>136988892 (OP)
>I WAS BORN LIKE THIS AND ABANDONED IN A DUMPSTER AS AN INFANT.

So like a lotta babies on Dumpster Baby Island. A LOT.


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>>136988892 (OP)
that silly, why should there be an oppression olympics instead of accepting that people suffering should not to be compared, everyone that need helps should be helped and not be told "shut the fuck off i'm worse, you suffering small, mine big!"


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>>136995128
Mutants are Super Jews, so yea.


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>>136988908
Where's the actual lie though?
Ben Grimm didn't have to go through puberty made of rock. He didn't have to live in the sewers like a Morlock. Nobody's trying to stone (heh) him because of his looks. He got to go to school and have a pretty normal childhood and date and do all the normal human shit until his accident and even then he was framed as a tragic hero for it.
He was maybe ostracized for his appearance for all of a couple weeks before Reed's marketing campaign kicked in. His experience IS fundamentally different from a mutant's.
But I guess because this bitch said the no no buzzwords that's all irrelevant?

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>>136990487
Didn't Ben grew up basically as a gangbanger on yancy street? And yeah, he then went to college, except that back then college was something you had to be a really good student for, not something that gets you a job at mcdonalds. Becoming a pilot isn't something you can just do either, it requires shit ton of training. So yeah, he didn't just get handed everything, all he got was a chance and he made the most of it.


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>>136988892 (OP)
that silly, why should there be an oppression olympics instead of accepting that people suffering should not to be compared, everyone that need helps should be helped and not be told "shut the fuck off i'm worse, you suffering small, mine big!"

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>>136995460
Mutants always go for that shit ever since Charles stopped being Charles.


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>>136990487
Didn't Ben grew up basically as a gangbanger on yancy street? And yeah, he then went to college, except that back then college was something you had to be a really good student for, not something that gets you a job at mcdonalds. Becoming a pilot isn't something you can just do either, it requires shit ton of training. So yeah, he didn't just get handed everything, all he got was a chance and he made the most of it.

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>>136995505
But that Mutant wants the gimmies and apparently pleasure island and their space utopia empire isn't giving enough.


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>>136995034
dilate

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>>136995053
Rent free


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>>136991007
Eh, I just felt like kvetching because I see people keep falling for bait pages like these due to forgetting the other half of the equation: That the people doing the complaining in these stories are supposed to be massively ignorant to what the protagonist has lived through, and on the rare occasion that they get a hint as to how much shit the main character's gone through they immediately shut their gob or take back their words because they understand better.

Like that one reporter chick from Immortal Hulk who everyone understandably got irate from because she claimed to the Hulk that men like Bruce Banner had "white privilege" and power she wishes she had...due to the fact she's never been inside the whirlwind of The Hulk's life, only catching photos and reporting it after the fact, and as a result under the completely false impression that a) Any of the Hulks see themselves as Banner, b) That the heroes treat The Hulk with kid gloves by sending him away when in fact they're enacting what they consider last resort plans due to the quiet admission they can't ever trust The Hulk to be around other people, and c) That the world has ever tried to understand the Hulk's boundless rage. The fact that Devil Hulk doesn't snip back at her makes it seem like he's in agreement, when it's clear that he's happy that someone finally admitted they're jealous of the Hulk's power instead of hiding it behind their fear of him. The minute she does get a taste of what the Hulk's world is like, though, she immediately regrets all the shittalk she gave to him, realizing that there's nothing envious about the Hulk's life or power when you're forced to endure it instead of watching it from afar.

I do admit that I'm slightly irked that most writers now making headline bait like this never give the protagonists a chance to really prove their cardboard detractors wrong, but then again, most modern comics are shit like that, so par for course.

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>>136991486
>she claimed to the Hulk that men like Bruce Banner had "white privilege"

didn't bruce banner basically invent the equivalent of the atomic bomb? That buys you a lotta fucking privilege.


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>>136995128
Ben is a hero who's never used his Jew Power as an out.


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>>136989078
>He's right though, Krakoa is presented as "correct" from a narrative perspective in all other books.
You haven't read Hellions, X-Force, Wolverine, or Sabretooth, have you anon?

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>>136994623
Wolverine is the most half-hearted and insincere critic ever. Dude is a fucking lapdog.


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>>136990591
>You can apply that shit to all of the other mutants that had normal lives until they got their mutations activated, too. Shit, it applies for all of the mutants that look normal yet still have useful powers.
Yes, you absolutely can. Pic related. I've always thought the "model" mutants have it on easy mode compared to the freaks.

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>>136990763
I hated that exchange so much. Storm, the supermodel with a power that she can turn on and off, is going to tell other mutants like Rogue, whose whole life is crap because of her powers, that everything’s fine.
It would’ve worked better if it came from a mutant with a miserable life.


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>>136988892 (OP)
I thought mutant power didn't manifest until they were teenagers?


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>>136990763
I hated that exchange so much. Storm, the supermodel with a power that she can turn on and off, is going to tell other mutants like Rogue, whose whole life is crap because of her powers, that everything’s fine.
It would’ve worked better if it came from a mutant with a miserable life.

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>>136995834
Nah ugly and hazard Mutants don't get positions of power.


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>>136994623
Wolverine is the most half-hearted and insincere critic ever. Dude is a fucking lapdog.

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>>136995615
Logan has been a fucking cuck for a while now.


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>>136988892 (OP)
I thought mutant power didn't manifest until they were teenagers?

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>>136995868
Sometimes though it's extremely rare so it's been said.


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>>136991804
Don't worry, man, I got no problem digging it out. As far as what her comeuppance was, turns out that when you get involved in gamma radiation, not everyone gets to live out their YAASQUEENSLAAAAY feminist fantasies smashing everything to their hearts content. Turns out that you can end up with the other kind of powers, the kind that allows you to see gamma ghosts everywhere. Essentially, she now gets to literally see the world the Hulk does, permanently, and she's pissed and bitter about it as she rightfully should be.

For what it's worth, I'm not a fan of the character, but I'm at least appreciative of the fact that the author wanted to write in someone who was new to the Hulk's world and showed their transition from spouting off the party line about The Hulk to someone willing to defend him after experiencing how chaotic and painful his life really is.

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>>136991986
That’s not a comeuppance. A comeuppance would shine it as “She got what was coming to her”, but clearly the intent is for you to sympathize. She doesn’t even come to an actual realization, it’s just an additional thing that happens. They’re virtually unrelated.


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>>136990487
Didn't Ben grew up basically as a gangbanger on yancy street? And yeah, he then went to college, except that back then college was something you had to be a really good student for, not something that gets you a job at mcdonalds. Becoming a pilot isn't something you can just do either, it requires shit ton of training. So yeah, he didn't just get handed everything, all he got was a chance and he made the most of it.

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>>136995505
IIRC he still also actively keeps up on all his driving/piloting licenses. I forget exactly where I saw that one though.


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>>136991105
Eh, Ben's the only one who really came off worse in the exchange. Johnny and Sue can turn their powers on and off. I really, really doubt they resent Reed, and they could have just lived normal lives if they wanted


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[User] I cant wait for whatever big marvel event completely destroys krakoa

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>>136991797
Genosha 2.0.
16 millions wasn't enough.


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>>136988892 (OP)
Didn't the mutants present their powers during puberty?


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>>136989078
>He's right though, Krakoa is presented as "correct" from a narrative perspective in all other books.
You haven't read Hellions, X-Force, Wolverine, or Sabretooth, have you anon?

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>>136994623
>>136990470
Dude, Wolverine is the most "have your cake and eat it, too" character in Marvel.


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>>136989593
Feels like most of these writers really want to have their cake and eat it to. They want to use their books to explore how they want the world to be while simultaneously holding it up as a mirror to our reality for "commentary". It makes the kind of reality where characters will comment on someone else's "privilege" while ignoring they're a seven foot tall half-a-ton rock dude who originally couldn't move through doors or go out in public without the police outright shooting on him. It makes them look severely disconnected from their own reality, like watching someone throw a fit about mean twitter comments while Galactus is on a rampage right behind them.

>>136990349
The worse part is that he was trying to frame it as people being jealous of mutants for having a place where they aren't persecuted for being different...while talking to She-Hulk, someone who still routinely unnerves people by how big tall and green she is compared to them, especially during her "Jason Aaron made me the Hulk-lite" phase.

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>>136994623
>>136990470
Dude, Wolverine is the most "have your cake and eat it, too" character in Marvel.


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>>136988936
i'm going to go controversial. if you took out the white cis man bait, /co/ would side with this bitch. her life is objectively shittier than ben's in every possible way

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>>136996175
>(formerly Grimey)


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>>136988892 (OP)
Is there a storytime of this?


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>>136988892 (OP)
Is there a storytime of this?

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>>136996504
no the issue was Clobbering time #2


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>>136990672
>Yes, Ben Grimm's life is a lot more glamorous than hers at the present. But she doesn't have his life story.
You know I actually wonder about that. This is the Marvel Universe where we know for a fact that Captain America drew comics about his that there are in universe comics that accurate enough to be court admissible documents. We know Kamala is a superhero superfan so there's a fan community. How do we know Ben Grimm doesn't have a wikipedia page that the 4chan of that universe (because again we know 4chan exists in 616) is on highlighting that early life section?

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>>136995085
>there are in universe comics that accurate enough to be court admissible documents.
Thanks, Slott. It probably sounded funnier in his own mind than it ended up being.


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>>136988936
i'm going to go controversial. if you took out the white cis man bait, /co/ would side with this bitch. her life is objectively shittier than ben's in every possible way

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>>136989325
Except that this lady had an entire support group of sympathetic mutants to turn to and Ben was mocked and feared even by close friends for years after his accident. Having since turned his life around for the better doesn't mean he didn't suffer.


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>>136988892 (OP)
Reminder that you're not supposed to side with this person and the entire context is that Ben has learned to be the bigger man because in the past he resorted to violence when dealing with idiots. This is just another case of an anon taking something out of context to generate rage.

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>>136988936
Everytime one of you faggots has claimed this, it always turns out that OP was right on the money and the "Context" validates his critique of the low effort trash he's mocking.
I'm well past done trying to look at if for the perspective of you retards. This comic is utter garbage and you are garbage for defending it.


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>>136990487
Didn't Ben grew up basically as a gangbanger on yancy street? And yeah, he then went to college, except that back then college was something you had to be a really good student for, not something that gets you a job at mcdonalds. Becoming a pilot isn't something you can just do either, it requires shit ton of training. So yeah, he didn't just get handed everything, all he got was a chance and he made the most of it.

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>>136995505
Yes, but also I gotta think that main character privilege is a thing in universe as it is out.
You think random mutant 479 from a rough upbringing is going to get to go to college or become a pilot or a dentist or whatever?
They exist to be burned at the stake or vaporized by a sentinel or killed by inhuman fart gas or have their school bus blown up or experimented on in order to make Cyclops feel sad for an issue. That's what they have to look forward to. They don't get to be a part of Marvel's First Family and you gotta think some of them know it by now.
I mean shit this shitty sex cult island is the best deal mutants have EVER gotten in 616 how sad is that?


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>>136995505
Yes, but also I gotta think that main character privilege is a thing in universe as it is out.
You think random mutant 479 from a rough upbringing is going to get to go to college or become a pilot or a dentist or whatever?
They exist to be burned at the stake or vaporized by a sentinel or killed by inhuman fart gas or have their school bus blown up or experimented on in order to make Cyclops feel sad for an issue. That's what they have to look forward to. They don't get to be a part of Marvel's First Family and you gotta think some of them know it by now.
I mean shit this shitty sex cult island is the best deal mutants have EVER gotten in 616 how sad is that?

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>>136997686
Sure sounds like a great argument for how mutants shouldn't even be a thing and Marvel should just stop.


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>>136997686
Sure sounds like a great argument for how mutants shouldn't even be a thing and Marvel should just stop.

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>>136997734
Yes and no, because mutants always being on the backfoot is just another symptom of the disease that is the cyclical nature of capeshit.
Much like how Spider-man is never going to get his life together, and super geniuses like Reed and Tony can never cure cancer, mutants, especially 99% of mutants created after 1975, will always invariably be made to suffer. People here are fags obsessed with finding things to be mad at, so they're acting like Krakoa Sex Island is the new normal, but the absolute latest it will persist is going to be until MCU X-men happens and they have to go back to being the oppressed and hunted group of suffering freaks. Because that's their status quo.
Ironically its similar to all those times Ben got "cured". They can't stick, because being a rock monster is his "thing".


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>Respectively, you were a cis white male before you transitioned