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>>136980599
Yeah, I got really disapointed that the IDW Nobody was so heavily altered

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>>136980842
Me too. Nobody was such a badass and I fucking loved his character. IDW really fucked up in that regard.


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IDW is as good as dead before the end of the year and they will start losing licenses, which means someone else will get TMNT eventually.

If you were put in charge of, at minimum, the first 100 issues of a new TMNT comic, how would reboot the story from it's start and what would you do with a long-running story? What would you do differently or avoid doing? What plotlines would you bring back?

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>>136974754 (OP)
I would make this crossover happen as a separate short 6 issue run.


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>>136974754 (OP)
I would make this crossover happen as a separate short 6 issue run.

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>>136981433
This is the second IDW colapse license thread that I see get a RWBY crossover suggested, someone should do a Godzilla thread so we can get a triple combo going


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IDW is as good as dead before the end of the year and they will start losing licenses, which means someone else will get TMNT eventually.

If you were put in charge of, at minimum, the first 100 issues of a new TMNT comic, how would reboot the story from it's start and what would you do with a long-running story? What would you do differently or avoid doing? What plotlines would you bring back?

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>>136974754 (OP)
>not related to the thread question
I wish they kept the Mikey depression storyline in the movie.


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>>136981433
This is the second IDW colapse license thread that I see get a RWBY crossover suggested, someone should do a Godzilla thread so we can get a triple combo going

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>>136981448
Y'all can't tell me that a TMNT x RWBY crossover wouldn't work. They're both four lettered, four membered teams where the franchise is far past it's prime and being milked to death while completely missing it's potential.


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>>136980981
It's been done already

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>>136981197
Fucking disgusting, at least they should make Leo and Raph japanese and italian, right?


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>>136974754 (OP)
I would make this crossover happen as a separate short 6 issue run.

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>>136981433
Would be better than what DC is doing


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>>136979858
I kind of like the idea of there being actual superheroes in the world of TMNT, all humans or human-looking at least, that show a good contrast between the more street level setting and the higher concept sci-fi spiritual plotlines. The Turtles do a 4v1 with Krang or sabotage a single key Triceraton ship while the superheroes do the public Avengers/Justice League Giant-robot/army fighting stuff. It should never be a full time thing, but an occasional event like that is interesting, alternatively, have the Mutanimals fill that role since you can fill their ranks with bruisers and other heavy hitters

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>>136979995
I love that the turtles help superheroes with covert missions or dirty work, however, they don't do it out of altruism, at least the superheroes promised to give them free pizza and other supplies.


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IDW is as good as dead before the end of the year and they will start losing licenses, which means someone else will get TMNT eventually.

If you were put in charge of, at minimum, the first 100 issues of a new TMNT comic, how would reboot the story from it's start and what would you do with a long-running story? What would you do differently or avoid doing? What plotlines would you bring back?

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>>136974754 (OP)
the last ronin game was already announced by paramount and last ronin is kind of an IDW product they have to stay alive until it comes out which in turn will save them


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>>136980599
Yeah, I got really disapointed that the IDW Nobody was so heavily altered

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>>136980842
Why haven't they introduced the justice force at all, they seem to want to do big two shit but want the only heroes around to be the turtles, you can't make a fucking multi comic event when you don't have a cast that can handle that. But they know they also can't do spin off books because they just wouldn't sell.

I would personally do a TMNT comic that sticks with just gangs and the foot clan for a long while but also do a justice force comic and never mention they are related except brief mentions


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>>136974754 (OP)
the last ronin game was already announced by paramount and last ronin is kind of an IDW product they have to stay alive until it comes out which in turn will save them

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>>136982024
"Announced" but not even yet in production. No studio. Nothing beyond a vague pitch. Even if IDW goes under, all TMNT properties still belong to Viacom, full stop, and if IDW dies that just means even fewer people for Viacom to pay.


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>>136980842
Why haven't they introduced the justice force at all, they seem to want to do big two shit but want the only heroes around to be the turtles, you can't make a fucking multi comic event when you don't have a cast that can handle that. But they know they also can't do spin off books because they just wouldn't sell.

I would personally do a TMNT comic that sticks with just gangs and the foot clan for a long while but also do a justice force comic and never mention they are related except brief mentions

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>>136982080
>Why haven't they introduced the justice force at all,
Because that was Laird's thing, and he's not around anymore to push for them.


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>>136974754 (OP)
>not related to the thread question
I wish they kept the Mikey depression storyline in the movie.

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>>136981473
Handing off Mikey's only major character moment in the whole movie to Raph was a bitch move in an otherwise near-perfect movie.


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>>136978238
And how will that prevent Disney from making an offer to buy the franchise?

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>>136978272
By it being there biggest seller besides ponegbob you fucking retard they own all parts of tmnt


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I would have liked some slight down time for the turtles leading up to this point. At least compared to how much they have to deal with.

What has really made the turtles a lot more fun to watch is helping other people, doing good around New York and not just constantly defending themselves.

Also, them finally trying to incorporate ninja mysticism/magic and doing it wrong is devastating to me.

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>>136982397
I'd be fine if they incorporated more ninja tools into their proverbial movesets (smoke bombs etc), but straight up magic has always been a bad fit.


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IDW is as good as dead before the end of the year and they will start losing licenses, which means someone else will get TMNT eventually.

If you were put in charge of, at minimum, the first 100 issues of a new TMNT comic, how would reboot the story from it's start and what would you do with a long-running story? What would you do differently or avoid doing? What plotlines would you bring back?

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>>136974754 (OP)
No cute or sexy redheaded/brunette April O'Niel, no dice. Any TMNT after 2012 is not worth my time.


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>>136982080
>Why haven't they introduced the justice force at all,
Because that was Laird's thing, and he's not around anymore to push for them.

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>>136982151
I wish Laird was involved still. He may not have been perfect, but he actually respected the franchise unlike "I kinda like Venus" Eastman.


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>>136982397
I'd be fine if they incorporated more ninja tools into their proverbial movesets (smoke bombs etc), but straight up magic has always been a bad fit.

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>>136982476
They get into enough car chases that caltrops would have been good. The magic could have just been a focus/skill heightening mantra/mudra thing, but they took into a weird direction that didn't warrant the training arc and barely got any usage.

Also, I think I found the source image the IDW writers used to jumble the names. I like ninja crap, so i cringed seeing them try and fail.


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>>136982476
They get into enough car chases that caltrops would have been good. The magic could have just been a focus/skill heightening mantra/mudra thing, but they took into a weird direction that didn't warrant the training arc and barely got any usage.

Also, I think I found the source image the IDW writers used to jumble the names. I like ninja crap, so i cringed seeing them try and fail.

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>>136982693
Didn't the CGI show do a scene like this?


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>>136982476
They get into enough car chases that caltrops would have been good. The magic could have just been a focus/skill heightening mantra/mudra thing, but they took into a weird direction that didn't warrant the training arc and barely got any usage.

Also, I think I found the source image the IDW writers used to jumble the names. I like ninja crap, so i cringed seeing them try and fail.

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>>136982693
Yeah, it's a real practice with certain abilities associated with different hand signs and meditation, usually pop-culture'd up by Japanese media as being used to do magic. The shit that Waltz and Campbell came up with though... It's some weird combination of AtLA's spirit world, Naruto's jutsu handsigns, Mage the Awakening's vulgar magic mechanics (TTRPG), and pure, unadulterated plot contrivance.


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I would have liked some slight down time for the turtles leading up to this point. At least compared to how much they have to deal with.

What has really made the turtles a lot more fun to watch is helping other people, doing good around New York and not just constantly defending themselves.

Also, them finally trying to incorporate ninja mysticism/magic and doing it wrong is devastating to me.

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>>136982397
>>136982476
Leo can handle these. Just need to avoid the magic that Leo uses is Naruto tier shit from the beginning. Leo may closer to Geralt and Sekiro. Create potions and exorcism items through alchemy and crafting. His magic is mainly simple exorcism and sealing spell, casting more complex magic will take time to pray or at the cost of physical or mental damage. However, for these real magicians, shamans, and powerful supernatural beings, he is nothing more than an amateur.


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>>136982397
I'd be fine if they incorporated more ninja tools into their proverbial movesets (smoke bombs etc), but straight up magic has always been a bad fit.

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>>136982397
>>136982476
Leo can handle these. Just need to avoid the magic that Leo uses is Naruto tier shit from the beginning. Leo may closer to Geralt and Sekiro. Create potions and exorcism items through alchemy and crafting. His magic is mainly simple exorcism and sealing spell, casting more complex magic will take time to pray or at the cost of physical or mental damage. However, for these real magicians, shamans, and powerful supernatural beings, he is nothing more than an amateur.


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IDW is as good as dead before the end of the year and they will start losing licenses, which means someone else will get TMNT eventually.

If you were put in charge of, at minimum, the first 100 issues of a new TMNT comic, how would reboot the story from it's start and what would you do with a long-running story? What would you do differently or avoid doing? What plotlines would you bring back?

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>>136974754 (OP)
What I would do for TMNT is never remove focus from the titular main characters of the franchise. That's a big thing that ruined IDW. They focus so much on characters no one gives a damn about like Seri the baby aged up Triceraton Girl or April even. Yes I went there, April is not interesting and neither is an idiot like Casey. Why do we need a stupid character like Casey when we already have Michelangelo who is part of the literal TMNT since he's a turtle.

But yes maintain mandatory focus on the main characters. Don't waste time on characters no one cares about like Angel or Alopex. And simply grab the turtles and make them fight a chunk of different types of villains. That's all they should be doing. Keep it simple and to the point. And really that's it. And if you can't do that because you ran out of ideas then do what Batman does, put the franchise to repose and cool down for a bit. You don't want to SPAM something. Look at what spamming has done to Star Wars. That franchise is being worn down by Disney until it's utterly worthless. And they keep announcing more half assed ideas. You people think Rise of TMNT was half assed, Star Wars Visions alone is worse. Enough said.


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>>136974754 (OP)
What I would do for TMNT is never remove focus from the titular main characters of the franchise. That's a big thing that ruined IDW. They focus so much on characters no one gives a damn about like Seri the baby aged up Triceraton Girl or April even. Yes I went there, April is not interesting and neither is an idiot like Casey. Why do we need a stupid character like Casey when we already have Michelangelo who is part of the literal TMNT since he's a turtle.

But yes maintain mandatory focus on the main characters. Don't waste time on characters no one cares about like Angel or Alopex. And simply grab the turtles and make them fight a chunk of different types of villains. That's all they should be doing. Keep it simple and to the point. And really that's it. And if you can't do that because you ran out of ideas then do what Batman does, put the franchise to repose and cool down for a bit. You don't want to SPAM something. Look at what spamming has done to Star Wars. That franchise is being worn down by Disney until it's utterly worthless. And they keep announcing more half assed ideas. You people think Rise of TMNT was half assed, Star Wars Visions alone is worse. Enough said.

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>>136983468
I don't mind if April or Casey getting killed at some point.


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>>136974754 (OP)
What's your favorite TMNT media?
https://youtu.be/SwpeORfKeEA [Embed]

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>>136980395
Man, I'm well aware that Raz0rfag has terrible taste and is willing to outright lie if it means he can oversell a point to make himself seem smarter... but goddamn, he really oversells that first 100 issues meme.
>Those first 100 issues are painfully schizophrenic and bounce wildly between a dozen dangling plots, with some major character moments happening in side books that double the reading required to figure out what's going on.
>Eastman and Waltz stayed on as story consultants during Campbell's entire #101 to present and get top billing on the first page of every single issue.
>Mutant Town isn't an illegal immigration allegory
>Jennika was created by Waltz, mutated into a turtle by Waltz, and was his idea, which he freely admitted in the ninja notes, which I'm sure Razor conveniently forgot about
>the entire setup for Mutant Town, including Hob's obsession with using mutagen, Stockman becoming mayor, etc, etc, was all Waltz
>those next issues full of lesbian pigs, battle of the bands, and all the other shit people hate only happened because of Waltz needing Campbell to do a filler arc until he could finish The Last Ronin and come back to do Armageddon Game


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>>136982693
Didn't the CGI show do a scene like this?

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>>136982883
they did and they did it correctly, although it was kind of awkward without having 5 fingers when Leo tried it.

>>136983420
Just kinda shows that they don't know how they want to implement unique concepts or existing ninja traditions into this comic and I try my best to ignore it until it becomes awkward. Still can't get over Kitsune just being Kitsune. Kitsune no Majo or something. Japanese language and culture is a much more accessible topic now than it was when the turtles were originally made.


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>>136982397
>>136982476
Leo can handle these. Just need to avoid the magic that Leo uses is Naruto tier shit from the beginning. Leo may closer to Geralt and Sekiro. Create potions and exorcism items through alchemy and crafting. His magic is mainly simple exorcism and sealing spell, casting more complex magic will take time to pray or at the cost of physical or mental damage. However, for these real magicians, shamans, and powerful supernatural beings, he is nothing more than an amateur.

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>>136982883
they did and they did it correctly, although it was kind of awkward without having 5 fingers when Leo tried it.

>>136983420
Just kinda shows that they don't know how they want to implement unique concepts or existing ninja traditions into this comic and I try my best to ignore it until it becomes awkward. Still can't get over Kitsune just being Kitsune. Kitsune no Majo or something. Japanese language and culture is a much more accessible topic now than it was when the turtles were originally made.


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>>136982883
they did and they did it correctly, although it was kind of awkward without having 5 fingers when Leo tried it.

>>136983420
Just kinda shows that they don't know how they want to implement unique concepts or existing ninja traditions into this comic and I try my best to ignore it until it becomes awkward. Still can't get over Kitsune just being Kitsune. Kitsune no Majo or something. Japanese language and culture is a much more accessible topic now than it was when the turtles were originally made.

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>>136983578
Kinda wish they'd rip the bandaid off and just making something with correct names and terminology. The flimsy attempts at creative uses of mysticism and the myths of other cultures feels so fucking stupid when they're still recycling the level of cultural understanding that barely passed in the 80s. Like giving Shredder a girl's name, or having a Japanese woman named "Tang Shen"

Hell, if they did that, maybe we could throw out this whole idea where they mistake ninjas, dirty fighting assassins, with samurai, so they can just drop all talk of honor and bushido and ronin.


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>>136974754 (OP)
What I would do for TMNT is never remove focus from the titular main characters of the franchise. That's a big thing that ruined IDW. They focus so much on characters no one gives a damn about like Seri the baby aged up Triceraton Girl or April even. Yes I went there, April is not interesting and neither is an idiot like Casey. Why do we need a stupid character like Casey when we already have Michelangelo who is part of the literal TMNT since he's a turtle.

But yes maintain mandatory focus on the main characters. Don't waste time on characters no one cares about like Angel or Alopex. And simply grab the turtles and make them fight a chunk of different types of villains. That's all they should be doing. Keep it simple and to the point. And really that's it. And if you can't do that because you ran out of ideas then do what Batman does, put the franchise to repose and cool down for a bit. You don't want to SPAM something. Look at what spamming has done to Star Wars. That franchise is being worn down by Disney until it's utterly worthless. And they keep announcing more half assed ideas. You people think Rise of TMNT was half assed, Star Wars Visions alone is worse. Enough said.

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>>136983468
>Why do we need a stupid character like Casey when we already have Michelangelo who is part of the literal TMNT since he's a turtle.
Casey simply put shouldn't be an idiot. He should be much more of a serious and grounded character than the Turtles, almost sort of somewhere between Matt Murdock and Frank Castle, which is pretty fitting considering the inspiration for the franchise.


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>>136983578
Kinda wish they'd rip the bandaid off and just making something with correct names and terminology. The flimsy attempts at creative uses of mysticism and the myths of other cultures feels so fucking stupid when they're still recycling the level of cultural understanding that barely passed in the 80s. Like giving Shredder a girl's name, or having a Japanese woman named "Tang Shen"

Hell, if they did that, maybe we could throw out this whole idea where they mistake ninjas, dirty fighting assassins, with samurai, so they can just drop all talk of honor and bushido and ronin.

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>>136983638
That! Just give a reason for Tang Shen being a Chinese woman in feudal Japan. Could even have been a point of contention in the clan or something.

The full immersion into them being reincarnated ninja would have been more deserved had they really looked into the full breadth of what ninja have to offer, especially in crime-riddled New York and the establishment of their posse in Mutant Town. Kinda in line with how ninja came about and still missed the mark somehow.


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>>136983468
>Why do we need a stupid character like Casey when we already have Michelangelo who is part of the literal TMNT since he's a turtle.
Casey simply put shouldn't be an idiot. He should be much more of a serious and grounded character than the Turtles, almost sort of somewhere between Matt Murdock and Frank Castle, which is pretty fitting considering the inspiration for the franchise.

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>>136983718
If I had to take a stab at improving Casey Jones, I'd still keep him as a secondary character. He exists mostly in relation to what the turtles are doing and very little else... But I'd make him a freak of nature. A physical savant who could probably easily take a gold medal in damned near every olympic event if he really tried. But he can't, because of some bullshit arrest record. Maybe he got tangled up with the Purple Dragons and got arrested while carrying a ton of steroids and other performance enhancers. To really rub salt in the wound, have the Dragons cause the death of one or both of Casey's parents while he's in prison.

He finally comes home and retarded street thugs have taken away everything from him and all he's got left is a hockey mask and a bag of old sporting equipment. So he decides he's just going to keep cracking skulls until there are no more skulls to crack. Until one night, he accidentally comes across the Turtles doing ninja shit all over a gang of scumbags.

Beyond that, you could have Casey be a sort of informant and training buddy. Casey knows street fighting. He knows how to fight as dirty as possible. The Turtles are only formally trained. It's in a very practical way, but running katas in a sewer is different from fighting a dozen drugged up punks with pocket knives and maybe a gun or two.


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>>136983819
I'm not trying to imply that Campbell's run on the comic has been good, but everything that's wrong with the TMNT comics started well before he took over and was not helped by the circumstances going on around the publication of issues #101 onward. Not to mention that Campbell had a team of editors and story consultants that went
>You're going to build up 20 issues of social issues with mutant town and then do NOTHING with that? Sounds good.
>You're going to establish problems with supplies and trading with the Foot Clan and Hob losing his shit while a gang of thugs beat the shit out of random civilians for no reason? Okay
>You're going to set up all this severe drama with Hob and the horrendous atrocities he committed upon thousands of people for clear reason and then just have him get away and then be forgiven a few issues later? Sounds fine by us!

Everyone at IDW who worked on this book is guilty for letting things happen this way.

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>>136983969
I just want to know does anyone like mutant town, it seems like no where on the internet likes campell furry webcomic, and also how come they decided hobs cares about human mutants when its been established he hates them as much as humans. Stopped reading the comic when jeninka makes a band


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>>136979405
I wouldn't be surprised If they loot money from street thugs corpses. If Splinter is Hamato Yoshi and he's also a former Foot ninja, maybe he know there's some shadow economy in NYC. Donnie may also ''recycle'' some high-tech materials and devices from someone else's lab.

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>>136980125
>Donnie may also ''recycle'' some high-tech materials and devices from someone else's lab.
If I recall, in the 87 cartoon they hijack a vehicle from Baxter Stockman early on and keep using it.


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IDW is as good as dead before the end of the year and they will start losing licenses, which means someone else will get TMNT eventually.

If you were put in charge of, at minimum, the first 100 issues of a new TMNT comic, how would reboot the story from it's start and what would you do with a long-running story? What would you do differently or avoid doing? What plotlines would you bring back?

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>>136974754 (OP)
Make Casey the main character, cleaning up the streets. Make the book less Daredevil Parody and more Punisher: War Journal Parody. Have the TMNT in it but make them sort of urban legend type characters and see how what they do is effecting people in the city from the cities point of view. Sort of like Gotham Central but not go to shit.

I want to see an 80s NY and keep it a period piece. I don't twitter and cell phones and shit and streaming them on twitter. Keep it believable that they might be real but plausible they could be a gang in goofy suits. But start with Casey being a regular office guy or some shit whos life goes to shit and he starts fighting crime and then encounters these ninja turtles. Instead of April meeting them make it him. And give it an 80s action movie, lethal weapon/beverly hills cop vibe.


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>>136983468
>Why do we need a stupid character like Casey when we already have Michelangelo who is part of the literal TMNT since he's a turtle.
Casey simply put shouldn't be an idiot. He should be much more of a serious and grounded character than the Turtles, almost sort of somewhere between Matt Murdock and Frank Castle, which is pretty fitting considering the inspiration for the franchise.

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>>136983718
87 Casey proves you wrong


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>>136983969
I just want to know does anyone like mutant town, it seems like no where on the internet likes campell furry webcomic, and also how come they decided hobs cares about human mutants when its been established he hates them as much as humans. Stopped reading the comic when jeninka makes a band

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>>136984326
I like the story that Mutant Town could have been. I still think the whole thing kinda sucks as a whole, because it was poorly executed and did a piss poor job telling a story instead of just giving us disjointed snippets of what was going on with lots of drama.

The concept has potential and it could explore a lot of things and have a very meaningful impact on how the TMNT's stories are told... but it's just not. By the end of it, every character feels less developed, less focused, and less important. The plot shows up in the middle of another unresolved issue and says
>shut the fuck up nerds, it's time for Armageddon Game and you need plot device powers ASAP
and then Mutant Town just stops mattering entirely, never having reached even a fraction of the potential it could have had.


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>>136983638
That! Just give a reason for Tang Shen being a Chinese woman in feudal Japan. Could even have been a point of contention in the clan or something.

The full immersion into them being reincarnated ninja would have been more deserved had they really looked into the full breadth of what ninja have to offer, especially in crime-riddled New York and the establishment of their posse in Mutant Town. Kinda in line with how ninja came about and still missed the mark somehow.

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>>136983750
>Kinda in line with how ninja came about and still missed the mark somehow.
Can you imagine having the totally perfect opportunity to have them fully live up to what a Ninja is by taking up secret identities? Double whammy because they're also superheroes. They sneak into mutant town and insist that they're just 4 brothers who got caught in the M-Bomb. They pick humble jobs and keep a low profile. They help where they can, but "haha, just some turtles, isn't this mutant shit hard?.. anyways, I'm going back to living in squalor and hoping none of those EPF thugs give us any grief!!"

And then by night, they're ninjas. They're sneaking through the shadows, jumping from rooftops, raiding EPF containment centers to free mutants, robbing Hob's warehouses blind and distributing food and supplies all over the town. No one knows who they are, but no one suspects that push over Mikey or that nerd Donnie could be the ninja superheroes who are protecting Mutant Town.


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>>136974754 (OP)
I would make this crossover happen as a separate short 6 issue run.

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>>136981433
I ship Raphael with Weiss


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>>136981433
I ship Raphael with Weiss

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>>136985421
>Not Blake


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>>136983750
>Kinda in line with how ninja came about and still missed the mark somehow.
Can you imagine having the totally perfect opportunity to have them fully live up to what a Ninja is by taking up secret identities? Double whammy because they're also superheroes. They sneak into mutant town and insist that they're just 4 brothers who got caught in the M-Bomb. They pick humble jobs and keep a low profile. They help where they can, but "haha, just some turtles, isn't this mutant shit hard?.. anyways, I'm going back to living in squalor and hoping none of those EPF thugs give us any grief!!"

And then by night, they're ninjas. They're sneaking through the shadows, jumping from rooftops, raiding EPF containment centers to free mutants, robbing Hob's warehouses blind and distributing food and supplies all over the town. No one knows who they are, but no one suspects that push over Mikey or that nerd Donnie could be the ninja superheroes who are protecting Mutant Town.

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>>136985358
I was meaning more in the self governed community standing its ground and working against mightier forces like the ninja of Iga against Odas forces. But youre right, the Hamato clan against the EPF could have been a lot more interesting and fulfilled that need I have.


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>>136985358
I was meaning more in the self governed community standing its ground and working against mightier forces like the ninja of Iga against Odas forces. But youre right, the Hamato clan against the EPF could have been a lot more interesting and fulfilled that need I have.

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>>136985616
They had the EPF, Hob's Mutanimals thugs, The Foot Clan, Stockman and whatever horrors he can cook up, Null and her own mutants, The Purple Dragons, and any other gangs or factions that could pop up, pro and anti mutant, and all of it is happening on the TMNT's front doorstep.

That shit was a goddamned gold mine of perfect street level heroic drama and action. There could have easily been another 100 comics just about untangling everything that could have happened just from the setup of mutant town, and it was wasted spectacularly.


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I would have liked some slight down time for the turtles leading up to this point. At least compared to how much they have to deal with.

What has really made the turtles a lot more fun to watch is helping other people, doing good around New York and not just constantly defending themselves.

Also, them finally trying to incorporate ninja mysticism/magic and doing it wrong is devastating to me.

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>>136982397
>them finally trying to incorporate ninja mysticism/magic and doing it wrong is devastating to me.
I feel the same way. TMNT goes severely downhill whenever they start putting a lot of focus on magic elements or have mystic arcs.


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>>136981433
I ship Raphael with Weiss

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>>136985421
And Mikey?


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>>136984326
I like the story that Mutant Town could have been. I still think the whole thing kinda sucks as a whole, because it was poorly executed and did a piss poor job telling a story instead of just giving us disjointed snippets of what was going on with lots of drama.

The concept has potential and it could explore a lot of things and have a very meaningful impact on how the TMNT's stories are told... but it's just not. By the end of it, every character feels less developed, less focused, and less important. The plot shows up in the middle of another unresolved issue and says
>shut the fuck up nerds, it's time for Armageddon Game and you need plot device powers ASAP
and then Mutant Town just stops mattering entirely, never having reached even a fraction of the potential it could have had.

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>>136984785
Stockman and Null should have more spotlights in Mutant Town arc. These two are more like the archenemies of the Mighty Mutanimals.

If they don't waste +20 issues on slice of life story. We can imagine Null may use "cure or a better QOL" as an inducement to induce some victims to voluntarily become her pawns. And she does keep her word in one way. Just like a real devil would do. Her spies also secretly provoked more conflict between the mutant victims and Mutanimals, even causing casualties on both sides.

Stockman won't just build a stupid giant wall, he'll end up build better and safer shelter, but the victims he takes in are mostly foreigners or families of rich people. Hob's bomb attack was supposed to be an international event. If there are other foreigners among the victims, other countries will be very concerned about this incident, and will not even allow a mere mayor of New York to imprison their own citizens.


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>>136982397
>them finally trying to incorporate ninja mysticism/magic and doing it wrong is devastating to me.
I feel the same way. TMNT goes severely downhill whenever they start putting a lot of focus on magic elements or have mystic arcs.

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>>136986135
If worldbuilding was all about magic, mythology, and urban fantasy from the start. I prefer Mignolaverse style. I'd like to see some turtles got Yokai power ups instead of vague ninja magic.


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>>136980395
Man, I'm well aware that Raz0rfag has terrible taste and is willing to outright lie if it means he can oversell a point to make himself seem smarter... but goddamn, he really oversells that first 100 issues meme.
>Those first 100 issues are painfully schizophrenic and bounce wildly between a dozen dangling plots, with some major character moments happening in side books that double the reading required to figure out what's going on.
>Eastman and Waltz stayed on as story consultants during Campbell's entire #101 to present and get top billing on the first page of every single issue.
>Mutant Town isn't an illegal immigration allegory
>Jennika was created by Waltz, mutated into a turtle by Waltz, and was his idea, which he freely admitted in the ninja notes, which I'm sure Razor conveniently forgot about
>the entire setup for Mutant Town, including Hob's obsession with using mutagen, Stockman becoming mayor, etc, etc, was all Waltz
>those next issues full of lesbian pigs, battle of the bands, and all the other shit people hate only happened because of Waltz needing Campbell to do a filler arc until he could finish The Last Ronin and come back to do Armageddon Game

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>>136983549
Was Tom totally tied up with Last Ronin so much that he couldn't return to the core book as early as planned? Was that his choice? What was going on behind the scenes? Did IDW higher ups even over Bobby really want to push stuff like Mutant Town in spite of previous plans and everything else? If so, why?


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>>136976279
They're getting delisted from the stock exchange and just had to downsize 35% of their employees, including their entire marketing department and many editors. Lots of people who were still working on various books had their company emails shut off without warning and only found out later that they were axed too.

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>>136976460
Going off the stock exchange is probably a good sign though if they're going to be privately owned now. Publicly traded companies always drop hard in quality.


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>>136983549
Was Tom totally tied up with Last Ronin so much that he couldn't return to the core book as early as planned? Was that his choice? What was going on behind the scenes? Did IDW higher ups even over Bobby really want to push stuff like Mutant Town in spite of previous plans and everything else? If so, why?

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>>136988342
My understanding is that Waltz was always planning on stepping down, but never fully walking away until after he got to do his final big event that he'd been building up for the last 5 or 6 years before issue #100. Production-wise, it makes sense that they'd need a couple years time to arrange 3 different sets of scripts and coordinate on those, plus the pre-game and opening moves books, etc etc etc.

I don't think he was kept from interfering with stuff out of some executive mandate to make the comic "queer" and boring, or whatever. If anything, Waltz was probably the one constantly saying "no, don't do that, I need that character for the event"

The overall reception of the Mutant Town arc outside of 4chan is fairly positive, and Campbell is still locked in with no signs of leaving, so IDW must be fine with it internally. Like it was pointed out, the first 100 issues were full of problems too, and Waltz is only now reduced to a freelance consultant now that IDW is having financial troubles, having gotten literally everything he wanted out of a decade long run as head writer on this comic.


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>>136983787
If I were to give Casey a reason to NOT kill Hun and simply beat him bloody and send him to rot in prison, I would change Angel to be Hun's daughter. As much as Jones wants to kill Hun, he doesn't want to do the same thing to another kid that Hun did to him when his killed his father.

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>>136984045
No, I think Casey should a decent revenge storyline where he ends up kill his target without remorse. His story ends with a successful vengeance, and he may die from his wounds, or live but never appear in story again.


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>>136974754 (OP)
What I would do for TMNT is never remove focus from the titular main characters of the franchise. That's a big thing that ruined IDW. They focus so much on characters no one gives a damn about like Seri the baby aged up Triceraton Girl or April even. Yes I went there, April is not interesting and neither is an idiot like Casey. Why do we need a stupid character like Casey when we already have Michelangelo who is part of the literal TMNT since he's a turtle.

But yes maintain mandatory focus on the main characters. Don't waste time on characters no one cares about like Angel or Alopex. And simply grab the turtles and make them fight a chunk of different types of villains. That's all they should be doing. Keep it simple and to the point. And really that's it. And if you can't do that because you ran out of ideas then do what Batman does, put the franchise to repose and cool down for a bit. You don't want to SPAM something. Look at what spamming has done to Star Wars. That franchise is being worn down by Disney until it's utterly worthless. And they keep announcing more half assed ideas. You people think Rise of TMNT was half assed, Star Wars Visions alone is worse. Enough said.

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>>136983468
>Why do we need a stupid character like Casey when we already have Michelangelo who is part of the literal TMNT since he's a turtle.
I hate that they don't know Mikey has literary talent. Image Mikey also become writer of fiction and poetry.


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IDW is as good as dead before the end of the year and they will start losing licenses, which means someone else will get TMNT eventually.

If you were put in charge of, at minimum, the first 100 issues of a new TMNT comic, how would reboot the story from it's start and what would you do with a long-running story? What would you do differently or avoid doing? What plotlines would you bring back?

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>>136974754 (OP)
>how would reboot the story
I wouldn't, because I'm tired of reboots. Let all these ancient franchises go to sleep for a while so people who are actually capable of coming up with their own idea can take a shot at the wheel


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>>136977442
Short version for the rest of it
>Building up their skills picking off small gangs and petty crooks in "strike hard and fade into the shadows" style
>Early storylines focused on fighting the purple dragons and small time mobsters, at first because they are getting too close and sniffing around the TMNT's turf, and later because Raph and Mikey want to take a more proactive approach. Kinda positively mirroring Shredder's belief that they should do more with the power they have than just serve some arbitrary code
>Casey Jones enters the story as a guy who had his full ride sports scholarship taken away after getting accidentally tangled up with the Purple Dragons got him arrested and jailed for a few years. He partners with the TMNT out of respect for their ability to beat the shit out of the gang bangers that ruined his neighborhood while he was in prison.
>April O'Neil is not a supergenius researcher. Instead, she's a would-be freelance investigative journalist. Her dad got her an internship at one of TCRI's subsidiaries after he noticed some strange stuff going on. She figures out how the TMNT got mutated, but is not directly involved in that happening in any way. Chasing a lead on Stockman gets her tangled up with the Foot Clan and the TMNT save her. Journalistic curiosity overwhelms her terror from seeing giant talking turtles.
>The TMNT's interest in fighting crime slowly builds up as they earn the trust and friendship of a few humans at a time
>TCRI isn't run by Utroms, but has access to tech far exceeding what should exist in the 90s. An unintended consequence of Krang's dimensional genocide accidentally dropped some Dimension-X tech in TCRI's lap. They've been reverse engineering and staging inter-dimensional salvaging operations.
>After a suitable amount of time getting into different fights, dramatic losses, and small victories, the TMNT would eventually kill Shredder. There will be no mixed feelings about it either. Shredder is fucking evil.

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>>136978465
I'm good with April's dad or mom being part of TCRI and her getting in through them.


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Whole thread has got me thinking that redoing various iconic arcs and callbacks to old comics and shows has mostly led to the TMNT being crippled by poor storytelling. Every time they should veer into unfamiliar territory and simply tell an original story, they go running at full speed into some flimsy reference that doesn't stand on its own, unless you worship the original Mirage run like a holy text.

Donnie has to become a wizard because the old comics did a thing with Jack Kirby having a magic pencil. Raph has to run off and go be a solo biker because the old comics did that. Mikey has to become a celebrity because the old comics did that. They have to have a North Hampton arc because the old comics did that. All the Turtles have to get split up and go do some fucked up shit because the old comics did it.

Is it too much to ask to just have a fucking story where they just stay together and work as a team? It's not like they hate each other or they've each done some unspeakable evil to their family. The one thing they should want more than anything else, especially after what they've been through, is to just be together as a family, working together.

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>>136990288
If they can handle this disagreement more calmly than before, even if they are still split, but it didn't end in a serious row. That would be interesting. At least it show that they have grown a lot. I also think they don't all have to be alone. Like if Raph goes on a road adventure, he'll be accompanied by another brother, maybe Leo.


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>>136984785
Stockman and Null should have more spotlights in Mutant Town arc. These two are more like the archenemies of the Mighty Mutanimals.

If they don't waste +20 issues on slice of life story. We can imagine Null may use "cure or a better QOL" as an inducement to induce some victims to voluntarily become her pawns. And she does keep her word in one way. Just like a real devil would do. Her spies also secretly provoked more conflict between the mutant victims and Mutanimals, even causing casualties on both sides.

Stockman won't just build a stupid giant wall, he'll end up build better and safer shelter, but the victims he takes in are mostly foreigners or families of rich people. Hob's bomb attack was supposed to be an international event. If there are other foreigners among the victims, other countries will be very concerned about this incident, and will not even allow a mere mayor of New York to imprison their own citizens.

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>>136986838
>Stockman and Null should have more spotlights in Mutant Town arc.
I was going to say that they can't do that because both of those villains need to be part of Armageddon Game, but it really wouldn't be that hard for them to just dodge and evade consequences for a 30 or so issues. Null sending in mutant spies. Stockman making showy displays out of trying to help and offer supplies while claiming that Mutant terrorists have been stealing them. They even did a plotline about that mutant eel eggs that went nowhere, so why not have Stockman abducting test subjects or luring in mutants for "treatment" only they never return.

The premise is solid, it just needs tweaking. Primarily, making it so Hob isn't responsible, but still taking advantage of the situation. Have him butting heads with every other faction, while also using Mutant Town as an opportunity to elevate all mutants to having the same rights they would have as any other human. You can square things by having him hate assholes like Bebop and Rocksteady because they chose to be monsters, while having some sympathy for Mutant Town residents, because they didn't have a choice. The way things played out in the comics just makes him a psychotic villain, which makes his team up for AG even worse and more off-putting.


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IDW is as good as dead before the end of the year and they will start losing licenses, which means someone else will get TMNT eventually.

If you were put in charge of, at minimum, the first 100 issues of a new TMNT comic, how would reboot the story from it's start and what would you do with a long-running story? What would you do differently or avoid doing? What plotlines would you bring back?

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>>136974754 (OP)
It should be about brotherhood, and no girls allowed in their clubhouse


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IDW is as good as dead before the end of the year and they will start losing licenses, which means someone else will get TMNT eventually.

If you were put in charge of, at minimum, the first 100 issues of a new TMNT comic, how would reboot the story from it's start and what would you do with a long-running story? What would you do differently or avoid doing? What plotlines would you bring back?

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>>136974754 (OP)
This thread is full of shit ideas. Here is how you do TMNT
>set in the 80s
>better balance of ninja revenge and wacky scifi
>focus on the relationships between the brothers
>fully develop the personalities so Donny doesn't just "do machines"
This shit is so hard to fuck up, just stay as far away from the Cowabunga Pizza Turtles bullshit.
As someone who lived in NYC in the 80s, it's really a great setting for TMNT. The city was coming out the horrible 70s, still a lot of run down areas that need silent protectors.


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>>136976770
Exactly. Ch'rell is a character with a lot of potential. IDW didn't do enough with him by just making him part of Krang's army. By making him and Oroku Saki two separate characters rather than one in the same, it would also be addressing a criticism that many fans, including myself, have with the 2003 series; Shredder doesn't have any personal history with Hamato Yoshi before killing him and the Turtles almost feel like a footnote in his overall story.

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>>136977155
>Ch'rell is a character with a lot of potential
No, evil Utroms are just a nod to the Kraang, and the Pizza turtles retarded bullshit. Avoid this crap at all costs. The Utroms are good guys.


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>Story starts in the late 80s
>A younger Oroku Saki is sent to New York to establish a new branch of the Foot Clan
>The Foot Clan has previously only worked as assassins for hire, swaying politics and history through their skillful assassinations
>Saki wants more than that. He starts using the Foot Clan and recruiting new soldiers to fashion himself into an underworld crime boss
>Meanwhile, mid-level researcher at the mysterious Tech and Pharma megacorp TCRI, is sick of being stuck under someone else's boot
>He decides he's going to fund the creation of his own company by selling some of TCRI's highly classified research to get seed money
>The Foot Clan main family is getting sick of Saki's shit and Elder Clan leader Hamato Yoshi himself goes to pay Saki a visit
>Yoshi shows up at Saki's HQ and beats the shit out of some the thugs that Saki has been surrounding himself with for not knowing who he is
>He barges in on Saki's meeting with Stockman, who is explaining all the things they've discovered while researching this unknown ooze that TCRI has been supplying to them to do animal tests with
>Saki and Yoshi fight and Yoshi nearly bests him, severely wounding Saki's face in the process.
>Saki catches him by surprise by flipping a table and shoving him out a top-floor window with the case full of ooze samples
>Yoshi lands in a dumpster and is assumed dead by Saki, who is now turning his attention towards Stockman
>Stockman wants his money, but Saki insists he didn't receive any product.
>After a series of threats that make it very clear that Saki knows where every member of Stockman's family lives, Stockman is forced into being an undercover lackey for the Foot Clan.
>Several Foot Clan goons go out to recover Yoshi's body only to find it's not there anymore.
>They follow a trail of blood leading from the alley into an open manhole
(post too long)

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>>136977442
>>136978465
Some of this works, some doesn't. Overall, I would call it shit if this was the story. The more you get away from Mirage, the worse it gets


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>>136977173
>Quick Flashback to Yoshi finding himself somehow alive and healing as the ooze leaking all over him
>As he stumbles his way towards the street, he bumps into a child carrying 4 turtles in a fishbowl (because this part has to happen or there's no story)
>The child panics and almost drops the bowl, but Yoshi catches it with ninja reflexes
>A woman screams and points and other people start freaking out
>Yoshi gets a glimpse at himself in a car's mirror, seeing a horrendous giant rat face covered in blood and ooze
>he panics and dives for an nearby open manhole where some construction is happening
>He slips and stumbles through the sewer, falling deeper and deeper in until he blacks out
>He wakes much later to find 4 adolescent mutant turtles gathered around him
>His fall through the sewers ended up spilling the remaining ooze over them
>Hamato Yoshi, a childless man who dedicated his life to his career, does the rational thing and raises them as ninjas to get revenge
>he tells himself this is purely ninja business. It's about doing what's right by the organization that he swore his life to. Saki has to be stopped to preserve the honor of the Foot Clan
>he doesn't even name them for several years, but it becomes harder to only treat them like soldiers as their individual personalities start to develop
>obviously picks the renaissance masters for a reason I can't come up with right now
>after raising the turtles for nearly a decade, though, he struggles to pretend he's only their teacher
>the familial bond is strong and that mutual trust and love is what keeps the turtle dedicated to Splinter's eventual goal of taking down Oroku Saki.

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>>136977442
>>136978465
Some of this works, some doesn't. Overall, I would call it shit if this was the story. The more you get away from Mirage, the worse it gets


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>>136977442
Short version for the rest of it
>Building up their skills picking off small gangs and petty crooks in "strike hard and fade into the shadows" style
>Early storylines focused on fighting the purple dragons and small time mobsters, at first because they are getting too close and sniffing around the TMNT's turf, and later because Raph and Mikey want to take a more proactive approach. Kinda positively mirroring Shredder's belief that they should do more with the power they have than just serve some arbitrary code
>Casey Jones enters the story as a guy who had his full ride sports scholarship taken away after getting accidentally tangled up with the Purple Dragons got him arrested and jailed for a few years. He partners with the TMNT out of respect for their ability to beat the shit out of the gang bangers that ruined his neighborhood while he was in prison.
>April O'Neil is not a supergenius researcher. Instead, she's a would-be freelance investigative journalist. Her dad got her an internship at one of TCRI's subsidiaries after he noticed some strange stuff going on. She figures out how the TMNT got mutated, but is not directly involved in that happening in any way. Chasing a lead on Stockman gets her tangled up with the Foot Clan and the TMNT save her. Journalistic curiosity overwhelms her terror from seeing giant talking turtles.
>The TMNT's interest in fighting crime slowly builds up as they earn the trust and friendship of a few humans at a time
>TCRI isn't run by Utroms, but has access to tech far exceeding what should exist in the 90s. An unintended consequence of Krang's dimensional genocide accidentally dropped some Dimension-X tech in TCRI's lap. They've been reverse engineering and staging inter-dimensional salvaging operations.
>After a suitable amount of time getting into different fights, dramatic losses, and small victories, the TMNT would eventually kill Shredder. There will be no mixed feelings about it either. Shredder is fucking evil.

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>>136977173
>>136977442
>>136978465
Some of this works, some doesn't. Overall, I would call it shit if this was the story. The more you get away from Mirage, the worse it gets


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>>136974754 (OP)
This thread is full of shit ideas. Here is how you do TMNT
>set in the 80s
>better balance of ninja revenge and wacky scifi
>focus on the relationships between the brothers
>fully develop the personalities so Donny doesn't just "do machines"
This shit is so hard to fuck up, just stay as far away from the Cowabunga Pizza Turtles bullshit.
As someone who lived in NYC in the 80s, it's really a great setting for TMNT. The city was coming out the horrible 70s, still a lot of run down areas that need silent protectors.

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>>136993092
It's really such a simple formula, but no one wants to do something simple and functional they want to put their own stupid spin so they can leave their mark on some one else's creation.


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>>136975857
I always want the TMNT to remain street level and fighting gangs or organized crime at best. I never like their going to space or other dimensions stuff. Normally when the story evolves into that i check out.

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>>136979336
>>136975857
>>136975995
This is why Rise and 1980s turtles had the best Krang.
It was about the Krang against the world. The former classified them as Demons.
>>136979858
I don’t see how they could always be the weirdest thing around. The foot themselves are filled with weirdos that wear traditional Asian clothes in modern day Newyork, get led by aliens, or abuse the shit out of a mad black scientist.


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Even though the wacky space aliens and interdimensional shit was there from the start, I think I'd want to dial as much of that back as possible. The Utroms aren't that interesting and neither are the Fugitoid or the Neutrinos. If they come up at all, I'd probably have it revealed that the war in Dimension-X came to an end with some mutually assured destruction. Krang pushed things too far and now the whole dimension is a wasteland. Maybe the Turtles end up there by accident at some point, but it's not something that's intricately tied to their origin.

Otherwise, I'd focus specifically on the Turtles and their immediate allies. Stick with the classics and have their origin be an accident. No reincarnation or destiny or anything like that.

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>>136975857
>>136975995
This is why Rise and 1980s turtles had the best Krang.
It was about the Krang against the world. The former classified them as Demons.
>>136979858
I don’t see how they could always be the weirdest thing around. The foot themselves are filled with weirdos that wear traditional Asian clothes in modern day Newyork, get led by aliens, or abuse the shit out of a mad black scientist.


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>>136975857
>Even though the wacky space aliens and interdimensional shit was there from the start, I think I'd want to dial as much of that back as possible.
>Otherwise, I'd focus specifically on the Turtles and their immediate allies. Stick with the classics and have their origin be an accident. No reincarnation or destiny or anything like that.
This
Ok maybe not so much, maybe I'd keep Krang, dunno.

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>>136975857
>>136975995
This is why Rise and 1980s turtles had the best Krang.
It was about the Krang against the world. The former classified them as Demons.
>>136979858
I don’t see how they could always be the weirdest thing around. The foot themselves are filled with weirdos that wear traditional Asian clothes in modern day Newyork, get led by aliens, or abuse the shit out of a mad black scientist.


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>>136979336
I think their existence as giant mutant turtles who do ninjutsu means that they can't ever be a fully normal street level super team. I still find myself agreeing with another anon I saw talking about how fucking boring it is to put the turtles in any situation where they aren't the weirdest thing around. Put them in a planet full of a space aliens and they are boring. Put them up against magical entities from the spirit world, or whatever, and they are mundane.

Small doses of strangeness is fine, but I LOATHE the idea of the TMNT being turned into the Justice League or the Avengers, saving the world every single day. It does not suit them.

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>>136979336
>>136975857
>>136975995
This is why Rise and 1980s turtles had the best Krang.
It was about the Krang against the world. The former classified them as Demons.
>>136979858
I don’t see how they could always be the weirdest thing around. The foot themselves are filled with weirdos that wear traditional Asian clothes in modern day Newyork, get led by aliens, or abuse the shit out of a mad black scientist.


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>>136977155
>Ch'rell is a character with a lot of potential
No, evil Utroms are just a nod to the Kraang, and the Pizza turtles retarded bullshit. Avoid this crap at all costs. The Utroms are good guys.

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>>136993130
The Utroms still are good guys regardless of Ch'rells existence. He's one singular Utrom who doesn't represent the whole and is an enemy of them. He's much easier to work with and take seriously than Krang and his ridiculous body and the Technodrome.


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>>136974754 (OP)
>how would reboot the story
I wouldn't, because I'm tired of reboots. Let all these ancient franchises go to sleep for a while so people who are actually capable of coming up with their own idea can take a shot at the wheel

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>>136991609
So, if you were put in charge of it, you would do nothing? Put that in your resume.


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>>136979336
>>136975857
>>136975995
This is why Rise and 1980s turtles had the best Krang.
It was about the Krang against the world. The former classified them as Demons.
>>136979858
I don’t see how they could always be the weirdest thing around. The foot themselves are filled with weirdos that wear traditional Asian clothes in modern day Newyork, get led by aliens, or abuse the shit out of a mad black scientist.

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>>136994399
When I said "Krang", I meant the specific Utrom from the cartoon, though.


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>>136988330
>they whitewashed bebop and no one cares
it made all those "April looks like shit" posters look racist as fuck when they didn't have to

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>>136995528
How can you tell that hog is white


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>>136995528
How can you tell that hog is white

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>>136995757
seth rogen is playing him and he was one of the "white people can't play black animated characters people"


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>>136995757
seth rogen is playing him and he was one of the "white people can't play black animated characters people"

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>>136995801
Well that makes Rogen the average hypocritical racist. And a hack, but we know that.
(Also there's a side of 4chan that will go >white at him)


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>>136981197
Fucking disgusting, at least they should make Leo and Raph japanese and italian, right?

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>>136981636
>>136981197
Shouldn't the turtles human-ize to white?
I thought the ooze combined the dna of the last thing it touched (the kid who had them in a bowl) and whatever new thing it touched...
Or wait, did the kid never touch the ooze and it just humanizes everything?
In that case, yea they could be black or whatever.


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>>136980981
It's been done already

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>>136981636
>>136981197
Shouldn't the turtles human-ize to white?
I thought the ooze combined the dna of the last thing it touched (the kid who had them in a bowl) and whatever new thing it touched...
Or wait, did the kid never touch the ooze and it just humanizes everything?
In that case, yea they could be black or whatever.


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>>136983969
I just want to know does anyone like mutant town, it seems like no where on the internet likes campell furry webcomic, and also how come they decided hobs cares about human mutants when its been established he hates them as much as humans. Stopped reading the comic when jeninka makes a band

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>>136984326
They had Hob make a whole speech during the Slash funeral issue where he fully explained his change in motivation. It's basically the one thing they've done with him since then that has been kept consistent, he realized he can't be so picky when there's so much at stake


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>>136981636
>>136981197
Shouldn't the turtles human-ize to white?
I thought the ooze combined the dna of the last thing it touched (the kid who had them in a bowl) and whatever new thing it touched...
Or wait, did the kid never touch the ooze and it just humanizes everything?
In that case, yea they could be black or whatever.

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>>136996223
To be fair we don't know the exact deatils of the TMNT/MMPR's turtles, so there's no way of knowing what teh last human taht touched them looked like


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[User] I liked the introduction to the nova posse and how they handled cuddly cowlick in the idw comics, do they get worse deeper into Armageddon game?

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>>136995568
They were only really dragged in to kill off a ton of utroms, but Seri and later the Neutrinos showd up at random to one shot Ch'rell and Krang


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IDW is as good as dead before the end of the year and they will start losing licenses, which means someone else will get TMNT eventually.

If you were put in charge of, at minimum, the first 100 issues of a new TMNT comic, how would reboot the story from it's start and what would you do with a long-running story? What would you do differently or avoid doing? What plotlines would you bring back?

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>>136974754 (OP)
April would open the comic with a news report on the Purple Dragons stealing various items in a throwback to the 1990 film. She’s a red head reporter/antiques dealer. The Purple dragons corner her in an alley with orders to kill. The turtles first appearance is a direct throwback to TMNT vol 1, splash page in all. They wound the purple dragon members, and Hun is there, gets a nice facial scar as well.
The first arc is a build to fighting Shredder, who utilizes his resources to hunt down the Turtles. Notable events include April’s father being Kirby, Baxter being a rival to Shredder at first, Eric Saks standing in as the Shredder, and being the one who dies after fighting the turtles the first time. Northampton, return to New York, return of the shredder, and city at war all take place within the same arc. The turtles never leave earth until the second arc, where it’s revealed Krang put Shredder’s head in cryo sleep after Leo decapitated Shredder. Ch’Rell takes over for Oroku Saki while Krang makes him a new body. My TMNT series would be dark, but very much would be a love letter to the franchise.


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>>136984326
They had Hob make a whole speech during the Slash funeral issue where he fully explained his change in motivation. It's basically the one thing they've done with him since then that has been kept consistent, he realized he can't be so picky when there's so much at stake

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>>136996279
And it's still poorly written when they try to make Hob the mastermind.


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>>136974754 (OP)
I would make this crossover happen as a separate short 6 issue run.

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>>136981433
I made >>136997521 this post.

I’d have it so that current RWBY crossed over with Mirage TMNT. TMNT would be sent to Remnant first. TMNT’s “semblance” would be the Hamato Magic from Rise. Shredder is brought back to life by Krang in a clone body. His too has no semblance, but can become Super Shredder with his new body. Krang is an Ultrom war renegade exiled to Dimension X after destroying a planet using the Technodrome. The technodrome is an ancient war ship in mirage continuity that can destroy planets. He goes to remnant to get extract a large amount of dust, as it can enable the technodrome to escape back to the Mirage continuity. The finale of the Remnant portion of the story sees the Turtles and Team RWBY defeated, with Shredder easily killing Qrow, Raven, Tai Yang, Jaune, Nora, and Ren via his super shredder form. Krang destroys Remnant, using its dust as a portal to open to The mirage dimension. The second arc sees Team RWBY mourning, but ultimately defeating Shredder as a team. The brothers restore remnant.


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>>136974754 (OP)
April would open the comic with a news report on the Purple Dragons stealing various items in a throwback to the 1990 film. She’s a red head reporter/antiques dealer. The Purple dragons corner her in an alley with orders to kill. The turtles first appearance is a direct throwback to TMNT vol 1, splash page in all. They wound the purple dragon members, and Hun is there, gets a nice facial scar as well.
The first arc is a build to fighting Shredder, who utilizes his resources to hunt down the Turtles. Notable events include April’s father being Kirby, Baxter being a rival to Shredder at first, Eric Saks standing in as the Shredder, and being the one who dies after fighting the turtles the first time. Northampton, return to New York, return of the shredder, and city at war all take place within the same arc. The turtles never leave earth until the second arc, where it’s revealed Krang put Shredder’s head in cryo sleep after Leo decapitated Shredder. Ch’Rell takes over for Oroku Saki while Krang makes him a new body. My TMNT series would be dark, but very much would be a love letter to the franchise.

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>>136981433
I made >>136997521 this post.

I’d have it so that current RWBY crossed over with Mirage TMNT. TMNT would be sent to Remnant first. TMNT’s “semblance” would be the Hamato Magic from Rise. Shredder is brought back to life by Krang in a clone body. His too has no semblance, but can become Super Shredder with his new body. Krang is an Ultrom war renegade exiled to Dimension X after destroying a planet using the Technodrome. The technodrome is an ancient war ship in mirage continuity that can destroy planets. He goes to remnant to get extract a large amount of dust, as it can enable the technodrome to escape back to the Mirage continuity. The finale of the Remnant portion of the story sees the Turtles and Team RWBY defeated, with Shredder easily killing Qrow, Raven, Tai Yang, Jaune, Nora, and Ren via his super shredder form. Krang destroys Remnant, using its dust as a portal to open to The mirage dimension. The second arc sees Team RWBY mourning, but ultimately defeating Shredder as a team. The brothers restore remnant.


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>>136974754 (OP)
April would open the comic with a news report on the Purple Dragons stealing various items in a throwback to the 1990 film. She’s a red head reporter/antiques dealer. The Purple dragons corner her in an alley with orders to kill. The turtles first appearance is a direct throwback to TMNT vol 1, splash page in all. They wound the purple dragon members, and Hun is there, gets a nice facial scar as well.
The first arc is a build to fighting Shredder, who utilizes his resources to hunt down the Turtles. Notable events include April’s father being Kirby, Baxter being a rival to Shredder at first, Eric Saks standing in as the Shredder, and being the one who dies after fighting the turtles the first time. Northampton, return to New York, return of the shredder, and city at war all take place within the same arc. The turtles never leave earth until the second arc, where it’s revealed Krang put Shredder’s head in cryo sleep after Leo decapitated Shredder. Ch’Rell takes over for Oroku Saki while Krang makes him a new body. My TMNT series would be dark, but very much would be a love letter to the franchise.

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>>136997521
I actually think using Eric Saks as a fake Shredder could be done well, you can have him be the overambitious minion that dreams of taking over the Foot Clan from Saki


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For the sake of our collective sanity, we need the TMNT 2012 movie to come out.
I think it would do a good job of reminding people that there's ways to make the franchise "modern day" and aimed at a younger audience without going full retard.

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>>136998332
The zoomer Turtles are better than the 2012 Turtles.


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>>136998332
The zoomer Turtles are better than the 2012 Turtles.

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>>136998631
Go to bed Mr. Rogan.


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>>136981433
I made >>136997521 this post.

I’d have it so that current RWBY crossed over with Mirage TMNT. TMNT would be sent to Remnant first. TMNT’s “semblance” would be the Hamato Magic from Rise. Shredder is brought back to life by Krang in a clone body. His too has no semblance, but can become Super Shredder with his new body. Krang is an Ultrom war renegade exiled to Dimension X after destroying a planet using the Technodrome. The technodrome is an ancient war ship in mirage continuity that can destroy planets. He goes to remnant to get extract a large amount of dust, as it can enable the technodrome to escape back to the Mirage continuity. The finale of the Remnant portion of the story sees the Turtles and Team RWBY defeated, with Shredder easily killing Qrow, Raven, Tai Yang, Jaune, Nora, and Ren via his super shredder form. Krang destroys Remnant, using its dust as a portal to open to The mirage dimension. The second arc sees Team RWBY mourning, but ultimately defeating Shredder as a team. The brothers restore remnant.

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>>136998181
Wouldn’t it make more sense for the Rise Turtles to be used since they are more like anime characters in the first place?


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>>136998332
The zoomer Turtles are better than the 2012 Turtles.

[Assistant] >>136998631


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>>136998181
Wouldn’t it make more sense for the Rise Turtles to be used since they are more like anime characters in the first place?

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>>136998827
>Wouldn't it make sense to use the Rise turtles
No, never, not even in Rise. Those are fundamentally different personalities. Not a new take on existing personalities, if you changed the designs a little more people would never even put together that they're meant to be based on the turtles we know.


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>>136998827
>Wouldn't it make sense to use the Rise turtles
No, never, not even in Rise. Those are fundamentally different personalities. Not a new take on existing personalities, if you changed the designs a little more people would never even put together that they're meant to be based on the turtles we know.

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>>136998875
Rise Mikey is best, much better than 2012 Mikey


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>>136998875
Rise Mikey is best, much better than 2012 Mikey

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>>136999044
>Rise Mikey
All three of him?


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>>136998827
>Wouldn't it make sense to use the Rise turtles
No, never, not even in Rise. Those are fundamentally different personalities. Not a new take on existing personalities, if you changed the designs a little more people would never even put together that they're meant to be based on the turtles we know.

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>>136998875
Supposedly. But Mikey and Donnie are effectively non-characters in most TMNT iterations. Rise Leo and Raph still have their core traits. The former is more resistant to them (his sense of leadership) and the latter far more self-aware of how dangerous his temper will be on his own brothers. Rise Raph however devolves much worse than the other Raphs when he’s alone from similar insecurities every Raph suffers from (being a freak in a world of normal people). He still especially is the most intense Turtle when he does lose it.


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>>136975857
I always want the TMNT to remain street level and fighting gangs or organized crime at best. I never like their going to space or other dimensions stuff. Normally when the story evolves into that i check out.

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>>136979336
So why not just admit you are not a fan?


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>>136975857
I always want the TMNT to remain street level and fighting gangs or organized crime at best. I never like their going to space or other dimensions stuff. Normally when the story evolves into that i check out.

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>>136979336
>Mirage deals with space stuff early on
>So does '87
>So does Archie
>So does 2003
>So does 2012
>So does Rise
>The 90s live action movies go for time travel in movie III
>Bay brings in aliens in movie II
>IDW uses them a lot

So, what, you enjoyed the rousing adventures inside your own head?


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>>136975857
I always want the TMNT to remain street level and fighting gangs or organized crime at best. I never like their going to space or other dimensions stuff. Normally when the story evolves into that i check out.

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>>136979336
Street level? They are assassins in a blood feud trying to avenge their masters master. The cool part is that they get sucked into situations that are beyond them, that are outlandish and wild. Now you get Ninjas in space, and stuff like that. It's the "other strangeness" part that adds the fun to the mix.


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IDW is as good as dead before the end of the year and they will start losing licenses, which means someone else will get TMNT eventually.

If you were put in charge of, at minimum, the first 100 issues of a new TMNT comic, how would reboot the story from it's start and what would you do with a long-running story? What would you do differently or avoid doing? What plotlines would you bring back?

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>>136974754 (OP)
I'd like to see the main enemies from other series brought into the new series with new changes.

>Go-Komodo
A yokai warlord, he's one of the few rivals that Shredder can't underestimate or even fear. His true form is a Mizuchi who want to become a true dragon. He has an ninjas army made up of snakemen and lizardmen.

>Master Sliver
A yokai rat monk. He is a Tesso, the Iron Rat. He leads the yokai rat army. Just like the Skaven from Warhammer.


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>>136998875
Supposedly. But Mikey and Donnie are effectively non-characters in most TMNT iterations. Rise Leo and Raph still have their core traits. The former is more resistant to them (his sense of leadership) and the latter far more self-aware of how dangerous his temper will be on his own brothers. Rise Raph however devolves much worse than the other Raphs when he’s alone from similar insecurities every Raph suffers from (being a freak in a world of normal people). He still especially is the most intense Turtle when he does lose it.

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>>136999178
>Mikey and Donnie are effectively non-characters in most TMNT iterations
I hate this, and this line of thought. Its poor writing that fucks them both because people can't get off the Leo/Raph thing.


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IDW is as good as dead before the end of the year and they will start losing licenses, which means someone else will get TMNT eventually.

If you were put in charge of, at minimum, the first 100 issues of a new TMNT comic, how would reboot the story from it's start and what would you do with a long-running story? What would you do differently or avoid doing? What plotlines would you bring back?

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>>136974754 (OP)
Two words: Turtle Fucking.


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>>136979336
>Mirage deals with space stuff early on
>So does '87
>So does Archie
>So does 2003
>So does 2012
>So does Rise
>The 90s live action movies go for time travel in movie III
>Bay brings in aliens in movie II
>IDW uses them a lot

So, what, you enjoyed the rousing adventures inside your own head?

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>>136999892
>implying most people count TMNT 3
Come on now, anon.


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>>136999892
>implying most people count TMNT 3
Come on now, anon.

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>>137000386
It drives the point home nicely. You can't do TMNT for long and keep it "regular Street level." They pulled it off for two whole movies aaaaaand there it went.


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>>136977155
>Ch'rell is a character with a lot of potential
No, evil Utroms are just a nod to the Kraang, and the Pizza turtles retarded bullshit. Avoid this crap at all costs. The Utroms are good guys.

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>>136993130
Make Krangs a sister race to Utroms like Daxamites to Kryptonians


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>>136999178
>Mikey and Donnie are effectively non-characters in most TMNT iterations
I hate this, and this line of thought. Its poor writing that fucks them both because people can't get off the Leo/Raph thing.

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>>137000344
I want see Mikey and Donnie as older brothers in the new series.


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>>136993130
Make Krangs a sister race to Utroms like Daxamites to Kryptonians

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>>137000507
I still like how 2012 did it. An Utrom scientist fuuuuuuucked upppppppp while working on psychic research, driving herself insane and turning a bunch of innocent Utroms into a hivemind under her control. Free Utroms are trying to fight while very much staying the fuck away, because Holy Shit.


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>>137000344
I want see Mikey and Donnie as older brothers in the new series.

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>>137000709
It would be interesting to mix up the dynamics a bit, making Mikey the superior martial artist almost like a born natural but with a cocky lax attitude much to the frustration of Leo and Ralph, I honestly like Donnie being content with just being the tech guy, he understands everyone's roles and strengths and doesn't care or even embraces he's a weirdo.


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>>137000709
It would be interesting to mix up the dynamics a bit, making Mikey the superior martial artist almost like a born natural but with a cocky lax attitude much to the frustration of Leo and Ralph, I honestly like Donnie being content with just being the tech guy, he understands everyone's roles and strengths and doesn't care or even embraces he's a weirdo.

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>>137001420
>making Mikey the superior martial artist almost like a born natural but with a cocky lax attitude much to the frustration of Leo and Ralph
Umm... that's literally who Mikey already is. Do you even read Mirage TMNT?


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>>137000709
It would be interesting to mix up the dynamics a bit, making Mikey the superior martial artist almost like a born natural but with a cocky lax attitude much to the frustration of Leo and Ralph, I honestly like Donnie being content with just being the tech guy, he understands everyone's roles and strengths and doesn't care or even embraces he's a weirdo.

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>>137001420
Eldest brother Mikey will be Dante from DMC.


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>>136997521
I actually think using Eric Saks as a fake Shredder could be done well, you can have him be the overambitious minion that dreams of taking over the Foot Clan from Saki

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>>136998226
His name being similar to Oroku Saki is contrived though


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>>137001420
>making Mikey the superior martial artist almost like a born natural but with a cocky lax attitude much to the frustration of Leo and Ralph
Umm... that's literally who Mikey already is. Do you even read Mirage TMNT?

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>>137002000
I mean as in he can easily dispatch the other turtles and everyone is aware of it.


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>>136998332
The zoomer Turtles are better than the 2012 Turtles.

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>>136998631
i agree lol


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>>136974754 (OP)
Two words: Turtle Fucking.

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>>137000358
...I'm listening.


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Surprised to see so many other anons agreeing in that they prefer their turtles being Street Level as opposed to getting too whacky and bizarre as is usually the case when they're fighting aliens or creatures from Dimension X and such, thought I was almost alone on that. As someone else put it, I rather enjoy when the Turtles are usually the weird ones standing out and throwing everything and the kitchen sink (space travel, time travel, different dimensions, magic, etc) into the mix really dilutes the experience

What I would prefer in any TMNT reboot
>Keep the 80's approach where Splinter IS Hamato Yoshi rather than his pet rat, I like the contrast of Splinter having once been human whereas the Turtles were previously animals, and it also is nice when the Turtles have a bit of Yoshi's DNA contributed to their mutation makes them feel more like his sons
>Purple Dragons and the Foot Clan are perfectly fine as enemies, all the cool ninja war stuff going on between Splinter and Shredder should stay
>More mutants are fine, I think so long as everything can be traced back to TCRI and the ooze, it's fine to have more mutants appear since the circumstances that created Splinter/the Turtles are repeatable. Bebop and Rocksteady, Fly Baxtor, Leatherhead, Alopex, and others would be fine to add to the mix
>It might even be cool to include Krang but revamped to be a creation of the ooze or another extremely mutated mutant rather than an alien, or create Triceratons (or a sleu of other Dino Mutants) by using their remains in combination with the ooze. The point being that it keeps the story focused when you're only dealing with one or two really bizarre elements like focusing on the ninjas / ooze mutations thing

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>>136998992
I personally like the Turtles getting bizarre, so I think they way to balance that is having Casey Jones carry his own separate comic series where he is fully street level.


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>>137000358
...I'm listening.

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[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

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IDW is as good as dead before the end of the year and they will start losing licenses, which means someone else will get TMNT eventually.

If you were put in charge of, at minimum, the first 100 issues of a new TMNT comic, how would reboot the story from it's start and what would you do with a long-running story? What would you do differently or avoid doing? What plotlines would you bring back?

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Even though the wacky space aliens and interdimensional shit was there from the start, I think I'd want to dial as much of that back as possible. The Utroms aren't that interesting and neither are the Fugitoid or the Neutrinos. If they come up at all, I'd probably have it revealed that the war in Dimension-X came to an end with some mutually assured destruction. Krang pushed things too far and now the whole dimension is a wasteland. Maybe the Turtles end up there by accident at some point, but it's not something that's intricately tied to their origin.

Otherwise, I'd focus specifically on the Turtles and their immediate allies. Stick with the classics and have their origin be an accident. No reincarnation or destiny or anything like that.


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
IDW is as good as dead before the end of the year and they will start losing licenses, which means someone else will get TMNT eventually.

If you were put in charge of, at minimum, the first 100 issues of a new TMNT comic, how would reboot the story from it's start and what would you do with a long-running story? What would you do differently or avoid doing? What plotlines would you bring back?

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>IDW is as good as dead before the end of the year

You only assume


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

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IDW is as good as dead before the end of the year and they will start losing licenses, which means someone else will get TMNT eventually.

If you were put in charge of, at minimum, the first 100 issues of a new TMNT comic, how would reboot the story from it's start and what would you do with a long-running story? What would you do differently or avoid doing? What plotlines would you bring back?

[Assistant] Oroku Saki would be the current Shredder, but Ch'rell would be the leader and founder of the Foot Clan and The One True Shredder.