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>>136811117
merely moving your eyes and scowling doesn't make for good expressions
his obsession with mastering anatomy has made his style much, much less expressive. His exaggerated expressions, few as they are, feel forced af.

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>>136811198
>his obsession with mastering anatomy


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>>136811198
>his obsession with mastering anatomy

Uh. He still fucking sucks at it though?

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>>136811253
Yes. That's the point of my post, genius


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>>136811253
Yes. That's the point of my post, genius

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>>136811297
His point is that someone obsessed with it wouldn't be this miserable at it after so many thousands of hours of working at it.
Bruce Timm can scribble better anatomy drunk than Abaddon can manage under duress.


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>>136811253
Yes. That's the point of my post, genius

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>>136811297
... not really kid. Nothing in your post suggests that you agree he failed to improve his anatomy, just that you don't like how it impacted his expressiveness. I expressed surprise that he's working on his anatomy at all, because it's still fucking terrible. Look at the hand in the OP.

Not sure why you're lashing out at me for helping to dogpile on your overarching point that Abby has not improved.


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>>136811297
... not really kid. Nothing in your post suggests that you agree he failed to improve his anatomy, just that you don't like how it impacted his expressiveness. I expressed surprise that he's working on his anatomy at all, because it's still fucking terrible. Look at the hand in the OP.

Not sure why you're lashing out at me for helping to dogpile on your overarching point that Abby has not improved.

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>>136811403
The workings of the human hand are such a mystery to Abaddon you'd think he had a pair of lobster claws at the end of his wrists.

The only thing he's "obsessed" with drawing are tiny buildings and aliens with off-set holes in their noggins.


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>>136811297
His point is that someone obsessed with it wouldn't be this miserable at it after so many thousands of hours of working at it.
Bruce Timm can scribble better anatomy drunk than Abaddon can manage under duress.

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>>136811355
>at it after so many thousands of hours of working at it.
Abbadon never grabbed an anatomy book or did a study from life. He's 100% self-taught.

Don't confuse spending a thousand of hours studying & practicing with spending a thousand hours drawing lines at random. One teaches you new things, the other just gives you muscle memory.

>>136811403
>Nothing in your post suggests that you agree he failed to improve his anatomy
thanks for you tacit admittance that you can't read a written message's tone or even finish a sentence.


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>>136811297
... not really kid. Nothing in your post suggests that you agree he failed to improve his anatomy, just that you don't like how it impacted his expressiveness. I expressed surprise that he's working on his anatomy at all, because it's still fucking terrible. Look at the hand in the OP.

Not sure why you're lashing out at me for helping to dogpile on your overarching point that Abby has not improved.

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>>136811355
>at it after so many thousands of hours of working at it.
Abbadon never grabbed an anatomy book or did a study from life. He's 100% self-taught.

Don't confuse spending a thousand of hours studying & practicing with spending a thousand hours drawing lines at random. One teaches you new things, the other just gives you muscle memory.

>>136811403
>Nothing in your post suggests that you agree he failed to improve his anatomy
thanks for you tacit admittance that you can't read a written message's tone or even finish a sentence.


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>>136811355
>at it after so many thousands of hours of working at it.
Abbadon never grabbed an anatomy book or did a study from life. He's 100% self-taught.

Don't confuse spending a thousand of hours studying & practicing with spending a thousand hours drawing lines at random. One teaches you new things, the other just gives you muscle memory.

>>136811403
>Nothing in your post suggests that you agree he failed to improve his anatomy
thanks for you tacit admittance that you can't read a written message's tone or even finish a sentence.

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>>136811511
Lolfield is better at feet than Abaddon is at hands (or feet for that matter), and Rob learned to draw from reading comics.
I'm not sure I can think of 5 published comic artists WORSE at drawing hands than Abaddon.


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>>136811007
This and the last update are full of great expressions from Maya, Incubus and Meti

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>>136811117
it's lost cause, the tertiary chose his reason to be outraged and angry, now it's gonna be your fault whenever you say something, and after a while you will even be calle abadon or abadon shill.


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>>136811117
it's lost cause, the tertiary chose his reason to be outraged and angry, now it's gonna be your fault whenever you say something, and after a while you will even be calle abadon or abadon shill.

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>>136811622
Do you need a dry shoulder to cry on?


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>>136811117
it's lost cause, the tertiary chose his reason to be outraged and angry, now it's gonna be your fault whenever you say something, and after a while you will even be calle abadon or abadon shill.

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>>136811622
Aba just can't draw. Simple as.


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>>136811117
it's lost cause, the tertiary chose his reason to be outraged and angry, now it's gonna be your fault whenever you say something, and after a while you will even be calle abadon or abadon shill.

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>>136811622
Schizo talk.
Abby himself has states he's modifies his style constantly because being an artlet frustrates him.


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>>136807502
>so, disciple, I have taught you the maybe sword and the what sword; do you think you are ready for the third technique?
>I don't know, maybe?
>foolish disciple, you've already learned the maybe sword, and you are not ready for I don't know, the fourth technique
>what, you don't know?
>I just taught you the what sword, of course I knew
>but what about the fourth technique?
>oh, I don't know?
>so do you know or not?
>of course I know, Meti herself taught me I don't know
>so let me get this straight, the fourth technique is named I don't know?
>correct
>but why?
>I see you've heard of the third technique!

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>>136807753
They're not prepared for the ultimate technique of
>Can you repeat the question?


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>>136795480
What WAS the "correct" thing for Incubus to have done in the purpose? Continue being a streetshitter, but without being a Demiurge? Lie down and die? Try to improve himself despite there being no one, literally nobody in all the world, who gave a shit about him? Keep in mind that Maya only gave him the noodles to spite Meti.

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>>136801436
The issue is more he's still that same streetshitter. All his focus tends to be on what he has, or does not have, and he guides others to be the same. To focus solely on the material goods they can acquire, the meaningless titles, trinkets. Never beyond that.


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[User] The noodle argument works for Maya, but Incubus never had anything before the apprenticeship, did he? And he never learned that there was anything beyond death and killing. He never had the opportunity to know there was something beyond the crab bucket, and being a demiurge sure beats being a fucking slave or a starvation victim.

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>>136795480
>but Incubus never had anything before the apprenticeship, did he
Meti instantly recognized him as damaged goods. Not even kidding, he calls him out as lowkey too traumatized to function so they shouldn't even bother with him.

Too fucking real.


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>>136801436
Meti doesn't really stress that Incubus should be anything specific because he wasn't in the position to live a normal peasant life but still. Incubus had the potential to do anything he wanted and instead he decided to just sort of go with the flow his entire life and he's a miserable wreck as a result. Obviously go with the flow in this case is walk around beside Maya, take up her shit, and be a complete wreck for the rest of his life because he sat there constantly fuming about people thinking he sucked. If you go back to the initial stages of their trainings under Meti when Incubus was a complete blank slate retarded murder boy he was arguably better than Maya. Killed the rat, didn't give a fuck, etc. After that he's constantly in her shadow because Maya is constantly fucking up and growing and learning as a result and untold years later he's still going "muh middle army".

Could have plowed Maya's fertile pussy, could have died a slave, could have tried to kill god, could have called Meti a stupid old whore. He didn't though he just sat there as one of the wielders of the biggest rocks in existence and cried about it because he has self esteem problems.

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>>136802911
>Could have plowed Maya's fertile pussy
I don't believe for a second he didn't fuck her as soon as he hit puberty.
>too retarded to understand no
completely headcanon he got his ass beat for it then maya warmed up to the idea because he kept trying to meet her expectations


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>>136801436
Meti doesn't really stress that Incubus should be anything specific because he wasn't in the position to live a normal peasant life but still. Incubus had the potential to do anything he wanted and instead he decided to just sort of go with the flow his entire life and he's a miserable wreck as a result. Obviously go with the flow in this case is walk around beside Maya, take up her shit, and be a complete wreck for the rest of his life because he sat there constantly fuming about people thinking he sucked. If you go back to the initial stages of their trainings under Meti when Incubus was a complete blank slate retarded murder boy he was arguably better than Maya. Killed the rat, didn't give a fuck, etc. After that he's constantly in her shadow because Maya is constantly fucking up and growing and learning as a result and untold years later he's still going "muh middle army".

Could have plowed Maya's fertile pussy, could have died a slave, could have tried to kill god, could have called Meti a stupid old whore. He didn't though he just sat there as one of the wielders of the biggest rocks in existence and cried about it because he has self esteem problems.

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>>136802911
>and be a complete wreck for the rest of his life because he sat there constantly fuming about people thinking he sucked.
It isn't just that.
It's clear Incubus never wanted to be leader. He was happy being a follower.

Imagine what happened after Maya lost it with Meti: She just shoved the key in his hands and told the generals he's in charge now. The guy who has absolutely no clue what esoteric concepts such as "bureacracy", "leadership", "keeping subordinates in check" nor any interest in learning.
The middle army quite literally disintegrated before his eyes and when they mocked him hard enough he tried to fix shit, it was already too late.

Remember that Incubus is a starveling. The FUCK does he care about being mocked? It only frustrates him because it gets on on the way of his manipulations.


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[User] That hand in the 6th panel is TORTURED, you can practically see the sweat beads that dripped onto the page. It must have been relaxing to draw that lazy hand on the statue.

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>>136811815
>That hand in the 6th panel is TORTURED
I hate to sound so cruel because hands are tough to master, and this is a webcomic drawn with speed in mind, but it unironically looks like a hand made by AI. Her hand in that panel looks like she either has two pointer fingers, or one really fat one. And the middle finger looks almost detached + floating and/or growing out of her thumb.


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>>136809968
>Be servant race, created by the god Yis-Samal.
>"What is our purpose?"
>"SWEEP"

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>>136810734
>To master the sword, first you must master sweeping
He's a sword master in training


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>>136802911
>and be a complete wreck for the rest of his life because he sat there constantly fuming about people thinking he sucked.
It isn't just that.
It's clear Incubus never wanted to be leader. He was happy being a follower.

Imagine what happened after Maya lost it with Meti: She just shoved the key in his hands and told the generals he's in charge now. The guy who has absolutely no clue what esoteric concepts such as "bureacracy", "leadership", "keeping subordinates in check" nor any interest in learning.
The middle army quite literally disintegrated before his eyes and when they mocked him hard enough he tried to fix shit, it was already too late.

Remember that Incubus is a starveling. The FUCK does he care about being mocked? It only frustrates him because it gets on on the way of his manipulations.

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>>136812576
Incubus cares very deeply about being looked down upon. He's the kind of guy that would see the world burn down to see his enemies destroyed.


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>>136799870
It's surprising how Abbadon has completely forgotten to do facial expressions.

Five panels of poorly drawn early allison completely defeat anything posted these recent years

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>>136811007
There was a rough simplicity to it, beautiful because it was unrefined. The way it became is enjoyable too, however.


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>>136799870
Remember when it was said that Maya was a villain in her early bio?

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>>136801940
I remember her being positioned along with Cio and White Chain in Jadis' silly little cartoon image of her during the meeting of the Demiurges.


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>“Secret techniques? Here, girl, I’ll show you a secret way to pick your teeth. Ha ha!”

-Meti ten Ryo to her student Mathangi

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>>136795020
I wonder if Maya calling Allison Mouse is a reference to this page. Maya needs to 'kill' Allison, by poisoning her with sword law.

>>136795587
By living without fear of death, you have conquered it, and liberated yourself


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>>136795004 (OP)
>>136795020
>comic straight up saying Sword Diogenes is always right
>Diogenes is so fucking hardcore that Stoic Masters like Epictetus thought him divine
>Stoics are supposed to dedicate every moment of their life to knowing, understanding, and accepting that it will end.
>Accepting and conquering the fear of death is ultimate liberation and a key to happiness
>Yet the moral is "It Is Good That Allison Does Not Think About Death"
Hmmmm. But why

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>>136795020
I wonder if Maya calling Allison Mouse is a reference to this page. Maya needs to 'kill' Allison, by poisoning her with sword law.

>>136795587
By living without fear of death, you have conquered it, and liberated yourself


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>>136795086
It's a question but it's not "the" question
Andthenwhatbros, we're still in the race.

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>>136795169
I hate how condescending he is to his fans. read his messages on discord and he comes off as such a smug prick


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[User] >sword mastery

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>>136795004 (OP)
Wouldn't be funny if Maya build her life around Meti's teachings just to discover she was just a mean old crazy lady. Kind of like how in the boondocks they thought Stinkmeaner was a blind master when he was just some mean old man.


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>>136795020
I wonder if Maya calling Allison Mouse is a reference to this page. Maya needs to 'kill' Allison, by poisoning her with sword law.

>>136795587
By living without fear of death, you have conquered it, and liberated yourself

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>>136813973
I wonder if Meti really meant just to train her or is this is something only Maya thinks.


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>>136795020
I wonder if Maya calling Allison Mouse is a reference to this page. Maya needs to 'kill' Allison, by poisoning her with sword law.

>>136795587
By living without fear of death, you have conquered it, and liberated yourself

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>>136813973
>I wonder if Maya calling Allison Mouse is a reference to this page.
It is explicitly a reference. When she saved her from Incubus he asked her "What are you doing here?" and she replied "saving the rat."


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>>136812576
Incubus cares very deeply about being looked down upon. He's the kind of guy that would see the world burn down to see his enemies destroyed.

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>>136813886
>Incubus cares very deeply about being looked down upon.
Any evidence of this?


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[User] >sword mastery

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>>136795004 (OP)
>Meti was never wrong
No, she was wrong about many fucking things Maya. That was the entire point.


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>>136813886
>Incubus cares very deeply about being looked down upon.
Any evidence of this?

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>>136814473
Seeker of Thrones 4-29.


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>>136795004 (OP)
Wouldn't be funny if Maya build her life around Meti's teachings just to discover she was just a mean old crazy lady. Kind of like how in the boondocks they thought Stinkmeaner was a blind master when he was just some mean old man.

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>>136814008
Okay but he literally was an evil kung-fu master trained by the devil himself


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[User] >>136799870

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>>136799933
Nice catch!
>>136799801
Royalty is a continuous cutting motion. You don't ever "reach" it permanently, you need to keep working at/doing it.
>>136811007
I miss the old style, too. More overwhelming, wondrous. Today's stuff feels a lot more subdued, which fits the tone of the story I suppose. Allison was overwhelmed back then, now she's more in control. Sort of sad if you think about it. You become a stronger, more well-rounded person, but you lose the initial sense of excitement and awe.


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>>136799748
So they just didn't "try hard enough"?
>Real royalty has never been implemented

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>>136799933
Nice catch!
>>136799801
Royalty is a continuous cutting motion. You don't ever "reach" it permanently, you need to keep working at/doing it.
>>136811007
I miss the old style, too. More overwhelming, wondrous. Today's stuff feels a lot more subdued, which fits the tone of the story I suppose. Allison was overwhelmed back then, now she's more in control. Sort of sad if you think about it. You become a stronger, more well-rounded person, but you lose the initial sense of excitement and awe.


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>>136799870
It's surprising how Abbadon has completely forgotten to do facial expressions.

Five panels of poorly drawn early allison completely defeat anything posted these recent years

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>>136799933
Nice catch!
>>136799801
Royalty is a continuous cutting motion. You don't ever "reach" it permanently, you need to keep working at/doing it.
>>136811007
I miss the old style, too. More overwhelming, wondrous. Today's stuff feels a lot more subdued, which fits the tone of the story I suppose. Allison was overwhelmed back then, now she's more in control. Sort of sad if you think about it. You become a stronger, more well-rounded person, but you lose the initial sense of excitement and awe.


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>>136814473
Seeker of Thrones 4-29.

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>>136814525
That only shows that it bothers him for a reason, not the reason.


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>>136814525
That only shows that it bothers him for a reason, not the reason.

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>>136814567
Fair enough!


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[User] I still don't get what they meant in the last few pages about Incubus being a bad swordsman.

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>>136795267
Because he literally obsessively focuses on the sword and ONLY the sword - to the point he's incapable of functioning or fighting without one, whereas a true swordsman can make literally anything a sword.


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>>136795004 (OP)
>>136795020
>>136795064
Gentlewomen and gentlemen, I've had a realisation. I meant to post this a week ago, but the thread died, so here I am.
When Maya asks Alison what she thinks about death all the way back at the start of the comic, the latter, in confusion, asks her "you're human?". I've just realised that Maya interpreted this as a response to her question, rather than the way the reader would, since we have more knowledge about what's going on with Alison than Maya does.
Once you interpret the dialogue in this light, Maya's response makes more sense: "you're human" as a response to "what do you think about death" shows a certain levelheadedness that, in KSBD, is seen as something to strive towards. Maya thinks that Alison does not fear death at all and, impressed with her stoic response, gives her the KSBD equivalent of "based": "Reach heaven through violence".
Interestingly, we've now come full circle, with Alison having actually achieved that level of Stoic/absurdist/existentialist thinking.
>>136795344
>The weak swordsman strikes his enemy down and thinks his task done. He relishes in victory. He casts away his sword and returns to his lover. Little does he know his single cut will encircle the world five times and strike him down fifty-fold.
Come to think of it, this literally happened to Maya. Her past caught up with her little quiet existence and ruined not only her life, but that of her family as well.

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>>136799870
This is such an amazing post, god damn


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>>136800118
>Solomon could have let his empire handle its political matters and intervened if the peace was threatened somehow
You know that this only would lead to fragmented warlords fighting for control right? It would be back to ore-Demiurge era with them killing each other.

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>>136800215
>You know that this only would lead to fragmented warlords fighting for control right?
That's literally where we are already. Or what do you think the Demiurges are?
>>136800248
He was too proud to leave his shining jewel of a city behind to pursue Royalty. It's not about whether things would turn out alright or not if he did or didn't leave; the reality is that what kept Solomon specifically from Royalty is his attachment to what he built. That's not a value judgment, it's simply what the story is telling us. He even believes it himself.
>>136806388
You'll notice that most candidates for Royalty were sociopaths. Hansa, Aesma, Zoss, Meti. It seems to manifest as a form of enlightened egoism that requires a certain disregard for the world around you.


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>>136800118
"Just leave bro, things will turn aaaaaalright"
I don't defend Solomon becoming a weird rules autist for no reason, but this mindset that things will just turn alright if you just do what you want is pretty ridiculous.

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>>136800215
>You know that this only would lead to fragmented warlords fighting for control right?
That's literally where we are already. Or what do you think the Demiurges are?
>>136800248
He was too proud to leave his shining jewel of a city behind to pursue Royalty. It's not about whether things would turn out alright or not if he did or didn't leave; the reality is that what kept Solomon specifically from Royalty is his attachment to what he built. That's not a value judgment, it's simply what the story is telling us. He even believes it himself.
>>136806388
You'll notice that most candidates for Royalty were sociopaths. Hansa, Aesma, Zoss, Meti. It seems to manifest as a form of enlightened egoism that requires a certain disregard for the world around you.


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>>136804273
>Zoss left his kingdom at its height because he saw the trappings of the cage around him. Dave had the chance to do the same.
I mean the only reason Solomon didn't do that is because he wasn't as much of a sociopath as Zoss who gives no fuck about how the world is going to become after he steps down.

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>>136800215
>You know that this only would lead to fragmented warlords fighting for control right?
That's literally where we are already. Or what do you think the Demiurges are?
>>136800248
He was too proud to leave his shining jewel of a city behind to pursue Royalty. It's not about whether things would turn out alright or not if he did or didn't leave; the reality is that what kept Solomon specifically from Royalty is his attachment to what he built. That's not a value judgment, it's simply what the story is telling us. He even believes it himself.
>>136806388
You'll notice that most candidates for Royalty were sociopaths. Hansa, Aesma, Zoss, Meti. It seems to manifest as a form of enlightened egoism that requires a certain disregard for the world around you.


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[User] I still don't get what they meant in the last few pages about Incubus being a bad swordsman.

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>>136795267
Reread Het and the Rakshasa. It goes into this.


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>>136798651
It's simple, she does a barrel roll.

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>>136798863
Royalty is a continuous rolling motion
>>136806509
>>136799934
Of course not. It's a funny picture fictional story anon, not a self-help book.


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>>136806408
Does the author presumes that we have to take this seriously as a lesson for the real world?

Because most of it is pure magic non sense. Does it even has something worthwhile to say to the reader, apart from being neat world building?

>The reason for this is that despite the constant production of "others" all "others" are still Yisun. None can be Royalty because none can be better than Yisun, they are Yisun. There is no "other" to be "Royalty" over Yisun, there is only Yisun

So all of this is bulshit and pointless. As other anon mentioned, there is no point in "seeking" this nebulous concept.

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>>136798863
Royalty is a continuous rolling motion
>>136806509
>>136799934
Of course not. It's a funny picture fictional story anon, not a self-help book.


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>>136799891
This doesn't make sense when the author clearly wants to point certain character traits as failures, but in the end "whatever there is no point anyway".

I also can't picture the author taking any of this bullshit seriously on his worldview and daily life.

[Assistant]
>>136798863
Royalty is a continuous rolling motion
>>136806509
>>136799934
Of course not. It's a funny picture fictional story anon, not a self-help book.


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>>136800215
>You know that this only would lead to fragmented warlords fighting for control right?
That's literally where we are already. Or what do you think the Demiurges are?
>>136800248
He was too proud to leave his shining jewel of a city behind to pursue Royalty. It's not about whether things would turn out alright or not if he did or didn't leave; the reality is that what kept Solomon specifically from Royalty is his attachment to what he built. That's not a value judgment, it's simply what the story is telling us. He even believes it himself.
>>136806388
You'll notice that most candidates for Royalty were sociopaths. Hansa, Aesma, Zoss, Meti. It seems to manifest as a form of enlightened egoism that requires a certain disregard for the world around you.

[Assistant]
>>136814778
>we doubled down so hard on diogenes we end up becoming Stirner


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User] What is the deal with Royalty? Anons here claim it's understanding and accepting the nature of life and the universe to the point of being able to go "no u" to reality. But the only one who did something like that was YISUN, who was literal Big G God, so that hardly sets a standard. And what of the other Royal individuals? Hansa lived and died bitter and miserable, his only legacy being that even after dying he still made his daughter miserable. Meti lived and died bitter and miserable, her only legacy being that even after dying she still made her students miserable. For all that understanding and acceptance, neither of them did anything with it except drag others down. And they didn't need Royalty to just be old, wrinkly jerks. Why does anyone want this?

[Assistant]
>>136796817
Royalty is literally furious anti-enlightenment - the entire point of it is that no one who has ever attained it, up to YISUN Itself, has ever been happy even fucking once.


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[User] >sword mastery

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>>136795004 (OP)
What's her endgame?


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>>136795004 (OP)
What's her endgame?

[Assistant]
>>136814951
>To train with the sword, first master sweeping


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>>136795004 (OP)
What's her endgame?

[Assistant]
>>136814951
My dick. What else.


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>>136795267
When we talk about big themes of the story and literal in universe mechanical shit like Royalty the big over under is that to truly get anywhere you have to be some combination of autistic or retarded and Incubus has committed the gravest sin possible, as far as the story is concerned, in being a midwit. Being a good swordsmen is a microcosm of Royalty and a lot of things in setting and the big message at the end of all ultimate mastery of the blade is "swords are actually kind of gay huh" and that's not a hump Incubus has been able to get over. You can do anime shit with a sword in setting and Incubus can obviously probably kill 99.99% of characters but that doesn't mean he's good with a sword as far as the metaphysics of the story is concerned. If he was REALLY good with a sword he'd be a drunken hobo pissing in the bushes and able to swing his mindcock "sword" to sunder his ties to reality and slice time and space. Hell maybe if he was the complete opposite and hopelessly autistic about swords he'd metaphysically cut himself int a finer and finer killing blade resulting in ultimate warrior Jaggy 2.0 and using his "sword" to "cut" his enemies but he's not that either. Instead he's a (comparative) pissbaby scrambling in the dirt for a literal sword to fight the big scary man because that's all he knows how to do instead of summoning his astral overswordsoul and swording a sword sword sword or at a bare minimum walking away to get drunk instead like any proper swordsman would.

[Assistant]
>>136802767
>instead of summoning his astral overswordsoul and swording a sword sword sword or at a bare minimum walking away to get drunk instead like any proper swordsman would.
oh god this post is perfect


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User] What is the deal with Royalty? Anons here claim it's understanding and accepting the nature of life and the universe to the point of being able to go "no u" to reality. But the only one who did something like that was YISUN, who was literal Big G God, so that hardly sets a standard. And what of the other Royal individuals? Hansa lived and died bitter and miserable, his only legacy being that even after dying he still made his daughter miserable. Meti lived and died bitter and miserable, her only legacy being that even after dying she still made her students miserable. For all that understanding and acceptance, neither of them did anything with it except drag others down. And they didn't need Royalty to just be old, wrinkly jerks. Why does anyone want this?

[Assistant]
>>136796817
>What is the deal with Royalty
Liberation from the constraints of world. Literally, "just b yourself". Just be yourself to their point you exist independent from the universe.

A more earthly notion, such as mathanga's take on meti, is complete liberation of the self from societal constraints. It isn't just being antisocial or pissing on people because you think people are dumb. It's complete detachment from the concept.

Chances are, your pet dog has achieved royalty.


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>>136796817
>What is the deal with Royalty
Liberation from the constraints of world. Literally, "just b yourself". Just be yourself to their point you exist independent from the universe.

A more earthly notion, such as mathanga's take on meti, is complete liberation of the self from societal constraints. It isn't just being antisocial or pissing on people because you think people are dumb. It's complete detachment from the concept.

Chances are, your pet dog has achieved royalty.

[Assistant]
>>136815271
Cats are more royal than dogs


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>>136815271
Cats are more royal than dogs

[Assistant]
>>136815348
But can they learn pankrash circle fighting?


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>>136815348
But can they learn pankrash circle fighting?

[Assistant]
>>136815371
They could. They won't, because that's stupid, but they could.


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>>136803366
Nothing. But by that token there's no point in attaining Royalty at all.

[Assistant]
>>136803380
There is indeed no point in attaining Royalty. Realizing that is in and of itself the fastest way to becoming Royalty.


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>>136814008
Okay but he literally was an evil kung-fu master trained by the devil himself

[Assistant]
>>136814529
Yeah but after he died,


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>>136802984
>>136802929
Consider: the undefeated swordsman must be exceptionally poor.

[Assistant] >>136806840


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User] What is the deal with Royalty? Anons here claim it's understanding and accepting the nature of life and the universe to the point of being able to go "no u" to reality. But the only one who did something like that was YISUN, who was literal Big G God, so that hardly sets a standard. And what of the other Royal individuals? Hansa lived and died bitter and miserable, his only legacy being that even after dying he still made his daughter miserable. Meti lived and died bitter and miserable, her only legacy being that even after dying she still made her students miserable. For all that understanding and acceptance, neither of them did anything with it except drag others down. And they didn't need Royalty to just be old, wrinkly jerks. Why does anyone want this?

[Assistant]
>>136796817
Intra lived happy and presumably died choking on his own entrails by the hand of a younger swordman


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>>136814473
Seeker of Thrones 4-29.

[Assistant]
>>136814525
say, why DOES Incubus's goblet room have the Greatest American Hero logo all over it, anyway? did we ever figure that out?


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>>136814473
Seeker of Thrones 4-29.

[Assistant]
>>136814525
Why was Incubus' first consort a woman if he's 100% gay?


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>>136795004 (OP)
Wouldn't be funny if Maya build her life around Meti's teachings just to discover she was just a mean old crazy lady. Kind of like how in the boondocks they thought Stinkmeaner was a blind master when he was just some mean old man.

[Assistant]
>>136814008
Would Stinkmeaner be considered Royal?


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>>136795267
When we talk about big themes of the story and literal in universe mechanical shit like Royalty the big over under is that to truly get anywhere you have to be some combination of autistic or retarded and Incubus has committed the gravest sin possible, as far as the story is concerned, in being a midwit. Being a good swordsmen is a microcosm of Royalty and a lot of things in setting and the big message at the end of all ultimate mastery of the blade is "swords are actually kind of gay huh" and that's not a hump Incubus has been able to get over. You can do anime shit with a sword in setting and Incubus can obviously probably kill 99.99% of characters but that doesn't mean he's good with a sword as far as the metaphysics of the story is concerned. If he was REALLY good with a sword he'd be a drunken hobo pissing in the bushes and able to swing his mindcock "sword" to sunder his ties to reality and slice time and space. Hell maybe if he was the complete opposite and hopelessly autistic about swords he'd metaphysically cut himself int a finer and finer killing blade resulting in ultimate warrior Jaggy 2.0 and using his "sword" to "cut" his enemies but he's not that either. Instead he's a (comparative) pissbaby scrambling in the dirt for a literal sword to fight the big scary man because that's all he knows how to do instead of summoning his astral overswordsoul and swording a sword sword sword or at a bare minimum walking away to get drunk instead like any proper swordsman would.

[Assistant]
>>136802767

Nice.


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>>136795267
When we talk about big themes of the story and literal in universe mechanical shit like Royalty the big over under is that to truly get anywhere you have to be some combination of autistic or retarded and Incubus has committed the gravest sin possible, as far as the story is concerned, in being a midwit. Being a good swordsmen is a microcosm of Royalty and a lot of things in setting and the big message at the end of all ultimate mastery of the blade is "swords are actually kind of gay huh" and that's not a hump Incubus has been able to get over. You can do anime shit with a sword in setting and Incubus can obviously probably kill 99.99% of characters but that doesn't mean he's good with a sword as far as the metaphysics of the story is concerned. If he was REALLY good with a sword he'd be a drunken hobo pissing in the bushes and able to swing his mindcock "sword" to sunder his ties to reality and slice time and space. Hell maybe if he was the complete opposite and hopelessly autistic about swords he'd metaphysically cut himself int a finer and finer killing blade resulting in ultimate warrior Jaggy 2.0 and using his "sword" to "cut" his enemies but he's not that either. Instead he's a (comparative) pissbaby scrambling in the dirt for a literal sword to fight the big scary man because that's all he knows how to do instead of summoning his astral overswordsoul and swording a sword sword sword or at a bare minimum walking away to get drunk instead like any proper swordsman would.

[Assistant]
>>136802767
>>136815024
Yeah it was quite interesting that incubus couldn't magically summon a sword or anything.
Not even a basic one.


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>>136802767
>instead of summoning his astral overswordsoul and swording a sword sword sword or at a bare minimum walking away to get drunk instead like any proper swordsman would.
oh god this post is perfect

[Assistant]
>>136802767
>>136815024
Yeah it was quite interesting that incubus couldn't magically summon a sword or anything.
Not even a basic one.


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>>136814473
Seeker of Thrones 4-29.

[Assistant]
>>136814525
>Putting up with a bunch of unhappy fucks playing God when you could more easily just leave and be happier doing literally anything else


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>>136814525
say, why DOES Incubus's goblet room have the Greatest American Hero logo all over it, anyway? did we ever figure that out?

[Assistant]
>>136816003
Whooooooo could it beeee? Believe it or not, it's just meeeeee.


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>>136814525
say, why DOES Incubus's goblet room have the Greatest American Hero logo all over it, anyway? did we ever figure that out?

[Assistant]
>>136816003
It's the character for "middle"


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User] What is the deal with Royalty? Anons here claim it's understanding and accepting the nature of life and the universe to the point of being able to go "no u" to reality. But the only one who did something like that was YISUN, who was literal Big G God, so that hardly sets a standard. And what of the other Royal individuals? Hansa lived and died bitter and miserable, his only legacy being that even after dying he still made his daughter miserable. Meti lived and died bitter and miserable, her only legacy being that even after dying she still made her students miserable. For all that understanding and acceptance, neither of them did anything with it except drag others down. And they didn't need Royalty to just be old, wrinkly jerks. Why does anyone want this?

[Assistant]
>>136796817
i see royalty as this
its impressing your will unto the universe yes but if you wish to do greater things, you must have greater will
all hansa wanted to do was smoke his pipe and bitch at god and he did so regardless of it being the cuase of his inevitable death

and thats the crux of the matter its literally going well i want x so whatever happens happens but im doing x which is why royalty is more likely to be obtained by idiots who cannot and will not contemplate the consequences of their actions


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[User] Personality wise what makes Gog Agog and Aesma different? Why is one Royalty and the other stuck? They both seem to be driven by whims and carrousel passions.

[Assistant]
>>136822139
Our pal Gog puts up a whimsical face(made of worms) but it hides a real face that constantly seethes at being seen as a buffoon and a joke by all of her peers - none of whom seem very interested in laying that word on her. She takes having her head exploded a lot more personally than she lets on, and desperately yearns for recognition of her abilities. They (seemingly) could have beaten Jaggy and saved the multiverse had Mottom not badmouthed Gog at the last minute when she came and demanded they admit they needed her. She's trapped in her cage of self-doubt.


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>>136822139
Our pal Gog puts up a whimsical face(made of worms) but it hides a real face that constantly seethes at being seen as a buffoon and a joke by all of her peers - none of whom seem very interested in laying that word on her. She takes having her head exploded a lot more personally than she lets on, and desperately yearns for recognition of her abilities. They (seemingly) could have beaten Jaggy and saved the multiverse had Mottom not badmouthed Gog at the last minute when she came and demanded they admit they needed her. She's trapped in her cage of self-doubt.

[Assistant]
>>136822220
Fuckin' Om, man. We're having an entire other book because she couldn't keep her mouth shut.


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>>136814525
say, why DOES Incubus's goblet room have the Greatest American Hero logo all over it, anyway? did we ever figure that out?

[Assistant]
>>136816003
>>136817191
Most Average American Hero.


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>>136816003
It's the character for "middle"

[Assistant]
>>136816003
>>136817191
Most Average American Hero.


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>>136822139
Our pal Gog puts up a whimsical face(made of worms) but it hides a real face that constantly seethes at being seen as a buffoon and a joke by all of her peers - none of whom seem very interested in laying that word on her. She takes having her head exploded a lot more personally than she lets on, and desperately yearns for recognition of her abilities. They (seemingly) could have beaten Jaggy and saved the multiverse had Mottom not badmouthed Gog at the last minute when she came and demanded they admit they needed her. She's trapped in her cage of self-doubt.

[Assistant]
>>136822220
From the story of the three masters its evident that Aesma is also petty and vicious


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User] What is the deal with Royalty? Anons here claim it's understanding and accepting the nature of life and the universe to the point of being able to go "no u" to reality. But the only one who did something like that was YISUN, who was literal Big G God, so that hardly sets a standard. And what of the other Royal individuals? Hansa lived and died bitter and miserable, his only legacy being that even after dying he still made his daughter miserable. Meti lived and died bitter and miserable, her only legacy being that even after dying she still made her students miserable. For all that understanding and acceptance, neither of them did anything with it except drag others down. And they didn't need Royalty to just be old, wrinkly jerks. Why does anyone want this?

[Assistant]
>>136796817
You cannot convince me it isn't just "based".
A sincere expression of self. Willingly shared, accepting and unashamed of judgement. Even opponents see something commendable there.


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>>136795267
He needs a sword to be an effective killer. As Meti said, you should have death even under your finger nails, but the moment Incubus loses his sword he panics.

[Assistant]
>>136797292
Its interesting that he doesnt think to use his telepathy offensively. I wonder if it will be explained when he went from Sword hobo to dream dealer or the specifics of his blood alchemy.


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>>136797292
Its interesting that he doesnt think to use his telepathy offensively. I wonder if it will be explained when he went from Sword hobo to dream dealer or the specifics of his blood alchemy.

[Assistant]
>>136824536
>Its interesting that he doesnt think to use his telepathy offensively.
Incubus holds himself back in things he is attached to/things that are important to the vulnerable inner Incubus that he hides away with the survive at all costs bullshit. He can't kill Maya, he can't use his true talent telepathy to its fullest extent, he likes being a follower, etc. All of these are truths he runs from.
I'm curious if we will ever see an Incubus with no inhibitions unlocked, much like Mottom was before her death. Attacking his foe both mentally and physically and finally becoming a true student of the art of cutting.


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>>136801861
That still only makes her an authority regarding sitting in barrels, but everyone treats her as if she was right about everything - when in reality she just a nasty hobo and she didnt even need Royalty to do that

[Assistant]
>>136802518
Well, yeah, but she also happened to be a Master of making corpses. People get really interested in learning those lessons from her. Just decided she wanted to be a dirty hobo in a barrel some time after learning so many ways to murder some other bastard.


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>>136802550
nah, he has the studs when he catches up with maya,which makes it funnier that she's still better at not getting decapitated.

[Assistant]
>>136802680
>>136802550
It doesn't completely stop decapitation, it just makes the head indestructible and able to be attached to a new body if it is


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>>136796284
And she doesn't even practice Head of John. Although neither did he back then. So I wonder if Maya is why he learned, after he failed to take her head he made sure she or no one could do it to him.

And then she cut his head off anyway.

[Assistant]
>>136802680
>>136802550
It doesn't completely stop decapitation, it just makes the head indestructible and able to be attached to a new body if it is


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>>136824536
>Its interesting that he doesnt think to use his telepathy offensively.
Incubus holds himself back in things he is attached to/things that are important to the vulnerable inner Incubus that he hides away with the survive at all costs bullshit. He can't kill Maya, he can't use his true talent telepathy to its fullest extent, he likes being a follower, etc. All of these are truths he runs from.
I'm curious if we will ever see an Incubus with no inhibitions unlocked, much like Mottom was before her death. Attacking his foe both mentally and physically and finally becoming a true student of the art of cutting.

[Assistant]
>>136825194
Incubus is too much of a SurvivalVirgin to ever come out but if he were it'd probably be in a blind rage right before he dies


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>>136802992
I'd like to point out that according to the RPG book Head of John is supposed to let you shoot lasers and yet Incubus hasn't done that onscreen to date, that it's supposed to let you read the ambient emotional state of a situation, and that supposedly the benefits to the head go away if the left stud is somehow destroyed.

[Assistant]
>>136803110
>I'd like to point out that according to the RPG book Head of John is supposed to let you shoot lasers
Incubus isn't nearly as cool to pull a fucking DIO.


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>>136806408
Does the author presumes that we have to take this seriously as a lesson for the real world?

Because most of it is pure magic non sense. Does it even has something worthwhile to say to the reader, apart from being neat world building?

>The reason for this is that despite the constant production of "others" all "others" are still Yisun. None can be Royalty because none can be better than Yisun, they are Yisun. There is no "other" to be "Royalty" over Yisun, there is only Yisun

So all of this is bulshit and pointless. As other anon mentioned, there is no point in "seeking" this nebulous concept.

[Assistant]
>>136806509
>Does the author presumes that we have to take this seriously as a lesson for the real world?
Nigga it’s a story about magical kung fu with giant babies and monkeys, there’s a lion-centaur angel backed with the power of friendship, a blood alchemist swordsman that looks like David Bowie and can give a really mean headbutt, one of the most powerful beings in the universe acts like a bitchy teen girl with attention seeking disorder, and one of the main teachings of God is “I lied lol”. Taking lessons from fiction from time to time is fine but if you’re trying to apply it 100% then that’s on you.


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>>136814525
Why was Incubus' first consort a woman if he's 100% gay?

[Assistant]
>>136816382
he identifies as a woman when they fuck


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>>136795125
>There's gotta be a way to win
Interesting that Allison had it right BEFORE training with Incubus. She already had the chops for royalty and, while overcoming Incubus' influence and temptation may have been a necesary step in her path, he was steering her away from what she should have been like a good devil figure.

[Assistant]
>>136795293
I completely forgot he trained her. I still can't recall anything about this


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[User] >LETTING THE DAYS GO BY

[Assistant]
>>136823430
>SAME AS IT EVER WAS
>SAME AS IT EVER WAS
>SAME AS IT EVER WAS
>SAME AS IT EVER WAS


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>>136795004 (OP)
Wouldn't be funny if Maya build her life around Meti's teachings just to discover she was just a mean old crazy lady. Kind of like how in the boondocks they thought Stinkmeaner was a blind master when he was just some mean old man.

[Assistant]
>>136814008
>>136816564
I mean probably. Death is more an inconvenience than anything.


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>>136814008
Would Stinkmeaner be considered Royal?

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>>136814008
>>136816564
I mean probably. Death is more an inconvenience than anything.


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>>136795293
I completely forgot he trained her. I still can't recall anything about this

[Assistant]
>>136827371
He was training her basically right up to the brawl with Jagganoth. He gave her raw power to get through Mammon's bank but she lost control of herself, then she regained control and it looked like she kicked him out, but then she was training with him in her dreams through the timeskip up to Solomon's tournament.


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>>136825194
Incubus is too much of a SurvivalVirgin to ever come out but if he were it'd probably be in a blind rage right before he dies

[Assistant]
>>136826312
Nope but Incubus will both blame everyone else and seethe hard before he goes.


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>>136822139
Our pal Gog puts up a whimsical face(made of worms) but it hides a real face that constantly seethes at being seen as a buffoon and a joke by all of her peers - none of whom seem very interested in laying that word on her. She takes having her head exploded a lot more personally than she lets on, and desperately yearns for recognition of her abilities. They (seemingly) could have beaten Jaggy and saved the multiverse had Mottom not badmouthed Gog at the last minute when she came and demanded they admit they needed her. She's trapped in her cage of self-doubt.

[Assistant]
>>136822220
could aesma have beaten jagg?


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[User] >sword mastery

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>>136795004 (OP)
Does anyone know what the question was? The question that destroyed Auntie Maya? Either I'm retarded or it wasn't said and it's just a hanging mystery.


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>>136822220
could aesma have beaten jagg?

[Assistant]
>>136828397
Aesma is like Squirrel Girl, she wins every fight as long as it would be comical.


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>>136795004 (OP)
Does anyone know what the question was? The question that destroyed Auntie Maya? Either I'm retarded or it wasn't said and it's just a hanging mystery.

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>>136828440
It hasn't been said yet. It probably will be at some point. I think Abbadon fucked up by not making it the question asked here, which Maya has asked throughout the comic.


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>>136795004 (OP)
Does anyone know what the question was? The question that destroyed Auntie Maya? Either I'm retarded or it wasn't said and it's just a hanging mystery.

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>>136828440
It's still a hanging mystery.
>>136828470
Yeah the way it's presented here it seems as if the question was "what do you think about death", even though he confirmed it's not. It's the obvious assumption.


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>>136828440
It hasn't been said yet. It probably will be at some point. I think Abbadon fucked up by not making it the question asked here, which Maya has asked throughout the comic.

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>>136828440
It's still a hanging mystery.
>>136828470
Yeah the way it's presented here it seems as if the question was "what do you think about death", even though he confirmed it's not. It's the obvious assumption.


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>“Secret techniques? Here, girl, I’ll show you a secret way to pick your teeth. Ha ha!”

-Meti ten Ryo to her student Mathangi


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>‘On the topic of dogs, a passing priest once pressed me quite fervently on the subject of my own mortality. He was very concerned about preserving the nature of my immortal essence. “Grandson,” said I, “I am old and my bones are sopping with death already. Why should I care?” He went on to describe in great detail the rituals that could be undertaken to guard one’s soul against degradation and ensure smooth passage to the next realm.
>“Do you perform these rites every day?” I asked him, trying to humor him. “Of course, auntie,” said the priest, “Every morning before I wake fully I perform my rites, then four more times a day before rest. It keeps me in good health and spirits, knowing that my death will be a golden door to paradise.”
>“Four times a day?” I said, incredulous. “Of course,” said the priest, “Don’t you think about dying, auntie? You should be worried, at your age.”
>“Do you think about dying?” I asked him. “How about before sleep?”
>“Yes,” he said, seeing that I was clearly straining his good nature. “How about when you bathe?” I asked him. He thought a moment. “Well, sometimes,” he replied. “How about when you shit?” I said. “Never,” he said brusquely.
>“Not even once?”
>“Well maybe once, but I don’t see the point! Who knows?” he said, clearly seeking to draw away from me and peddle his wares onto more the more gullible trash that populated the gutter. “A dog has more sense than you,” I said to him, and thumbed at a lazy mutt that was picking through the market. “He doesn’t think of death at all. Not when he sleeps, not when he bathes, and certainly not when he shits.”
>“And I supposed there’s a point,” said the priest.
>“You and he will both die,” I pointed out to him. “The four great elements of your bodies will collapse one into the other and you will both become no more substantial than a fart.” I should mention at this time in my life I had very little patience for rhetoric.
>The priest spat on me later. I didn’t mind.’
>Meti, of the Yellow City


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>what do you think about death?
The callbacks called it.
I don't get why that's the ultimate breaking question, though. Is it that Maya became so obsessed with killing that death is the only thing she thinks about, to the point that she forgot to live?


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[Assistant] Abby redacted those mistakes fast. Good on him. (notice Allison's limbs)


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[Assistant] I still don't get what they meant in the last few pages about Incubus being a bad swordsman.


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[Assistant] Some information on the inspiration for Maya and her constant pondering about death


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[Assistant] The noodle argument works for Maya, but Incubus never had anything before the apprenticeship, did he? And he never learned that there was anything beyond death and killing. He never had the opportunity to know there was something beyond the crab bucket, and being a demiurge sure beats being a fucking slave or a starvation victim.


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>I will teach you the maybe sword
>the WHAT sword now?
>no, the what sword is next week allyson


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[Assistant] The last few updates have really cemented Incubus as the most compelling character in this for me. What an interesting lad.


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[Assistant] I miss when the comic was like this, leaning heavier on the aesthetic than actually trying to make sense of the jumbled garbage that everyone spouts.


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[Assistant] What is the deal with Royalty? Anons here claim it's understanding and accepting the nature of life and the universe to the point of being able to go "no u" to reality. But the only one who did something like that was YISUN, who was literal Big G God, so that hardly sets a standard. And what of the other Royal individuals? Hansa lived and died bitter and miserable, his only legacy being that even after dying he still made his daughter miserable. Meti lived and died bitter and miserable, her only legacy being that even after dying she still made her students miserable. For all that understanding and acceptance, neither of them did anything with it except drag others down. And they didn't need Royalty to just be old, wrinkly jerks. Why does anyone want this?


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[Assistant] Who is that person in the background to the right and above jagganoth?


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>Allison
>All is one
fuckin


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KSBD is about breaking cycles, overcoming stagnation, the limitations of violence, being resolute in one's life and not being held back by fears or clinging to things, the powerlesness of the individual in a large scale and the importance of relying on others to get things done, the endlessness of struggle, the importance of illusory things like free will in a possibly deterministic universe and falsehood of end of time narratives. Abbadon came up with it as a reply of sort to the repetitiveness of campbell hero's journey type stories, chosen one stories and end of time narratives.
Take that in consideration when navigating all the complex and often contradictory philosophy presented in the comic.


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[Assistant] Anons, it's clearly a troll, be like Royalty and stop caring


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Royalty is when self and intent one. There is no trying, only doing. Failure is not an option because it's not even considered. Those who are Royal don't even know it, and those who try to be Royal, or know they are, are not royal.

Allison is on the path to royalty, she can walk and fight with only one of each limb, because she doesn't consider that she can't or how she can.

She just does.

Sadly, she not quite there yet, someone truly royal would not consider how to defeat a foe, they just would.


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[Assistant] Are six billion demons dead yet?


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[Assistant] Incubus reminds me to White from Tower of God.


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[Assistant] Half the time when I read people's questions and complaints in these threads it's shit that the comic literally directly explains or you should understand if you're beyond a third grade reading level


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[Assistant] How do you even read this comic and come away thinking any of the demiurges are happy. Like what the fuck.


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To better understand Royalty let us examine the terminology used to describe it. To be "Royalty" is to "Cut". Why these terms? Yisun's first act was to "cut" themself, the divine act of division/suicide that created "others". Others that sought to further "cut", to further divide and make more "others".

These "others" seek to be "Royalty". Royalty is the state of being better than "others", to lord over "others" and is the state all "others" seek and they do so by "cutting" creating more "others". But is there an end state or is the action itself the goal despite being depicted by all close to "Royalty" as being wrong.

The reason for this is that despite the constant production of "others" all "others" are still Yisun. None can be Royalty because none can be better than Yisun, they are Yisun. There is no "other" to be "Royalty" over Yisun, there is only Yisun.

Yisun is a sub devoid of domme
Yisun is a bottom but there is no top
Yisun is lonely but is truly alone

Yisun seeks an "other" that is not Yisun
There is none other than Yisun

The true act of "cutting" is to be "other" than Yisun
To be "Royalty" is lord over Yisun, to let Yisun not be all there is.

Yisun is a liar, though.


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I wish the comic will show someone achieve royalty the Hansa way. Would be a great way to fuck with Jag too.
>Jag kills everyone and destroys the universes.
>in pops anon with his smokes
>Jag confused
>Jag proceeds to kill anon a million ways but still anon gets back up for his smokes
>Jag begs anon to stay dead
>anon finishes his smokes
>dies
>Jag frustrated but thankful it's over
>in pops anon yet again
>tells Jag he just can't go until he finishes the last two seasons of My Fair Goblin


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Niggas could just say that "Royalty is the continuous pursuit of self satisfaction" but outright saying that sounds way less glamorous than esoteric mambo jambo.

It also makes said pursuit "questionable" - for example, "isn't always seeking the pursuit of self satisfaction egoist, and can lead to the suffering of others by abdicating of your responsibilities and empathy?"

And this is when things start to become non sense.


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[Assistant] I don't think there was a single person who both attained le royalty and wasn't an utter toxic cunt. Moldavian village rapist would be le royality too.


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I'm 4 pages in and I gotta ask
does western girl white haired zoro also like chugging alcohol too?


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[Assistant] That hand in the 6th panel is TORTURED, you can practically see the sweat beads that dripped onto the page. It must have been relaxing to draw that lazy hand on the statue.


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[Assistant] lol StableD go brrrrrr


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[Assistant] bump


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[Assistant] I see royalty as this: the second you have a desire or like feeling that makes you do something dumb, you lose it. It's like self-control kinda'. You can't make yourself have it, technically everyone always has it which is why Allison is able to succeed, but she's been able to succeed mostly because she's stumbling through the universe.


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[Assistant] Personality wise what makes Gog Agog and Aesma different? Why is one Royalty and the other stuck? They both seem to be driven by whims and carrousel passions.


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[Assistant] >LETTING THE DAYS GO BY


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I just finished rereading the comic and damn does it flow better when you're not waiting a week between pages.
Also I paid attention to the stories underneath the comic for basically the first time. I didn't remember who Yaun was from the recent pages, so reading that story and then seeing Solomon David call Jagganoth by his true name was a real surprise.


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>>136795913
fpbp


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[User] They should really just make a thing with all the movie scenes and let you build your own movies. Might even be better than the final cut.

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>>136797849
You fags are so desperate to make your headcanons reality it's so sad


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>"I had a couple fight scenes that got cut and there were a couple moments with Bill Murray. Instead of just getting killed at the cantina, he pursued Michelle Pfeiffer, and then wound up with Kang and got arrested. I helped bust him out, and then he pretends that he's with me the whole time and ready to fight. And I'm like, ‘Bro, come on.’ It was a lot. It would've been like a three-hour movie. And that's mostly what I remember. They were adding stuff to the script until the last day of shooting. So there was so much stuff that I think got cut in the end."

https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/ant-man-quantumania-star-katy-obrian-interview-love-lies-bleeding

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>>136794877 (OP)
I'd rather they'd been at the start. Movie needed more buildup before they went into the Quantum realm.


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>>136797849
That would be great. I'd love to take a stab at fixing the pacing of some movies.


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>>136797849
That would be great. I'd love to take a stab at fixing the pacing of some movies.

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>>136798292
You would fail.


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>"I had a couple fight scenes that got cut and there were a couple moments with Bill Murray. Instead of just getting killed at the cantina, he pursued Michelle Pfeiffer, and then wound up with Kang and got arrested. I helped bust him out, and then he pretends that he's with me the whole time and ready to fight. And I'm like, ‘Bro, come on.’ It was a lot. It would've been like a three-hour movie. And that's mostly what I remember. They were adding stuff to the script until the last day of shooting. So there was so much stuff that I think got cut in the end."

https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/ant-man-quantumania-star-katy-obrian-interview-love-lies-bleeding

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>>136794877 (OP)
Wow, who knew the pretentious and unfunny fuck Bill Mirry tried to make his shitty character that no one gives a fuck about, anything worth more, like what kid will be like "oh yeah dad! I want to buy this action figure of Bilm Murry in this already shitty movie!" Fuck Bill Mirry


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>>136797849
>They should really just make a thing with all the movie scenes and let you build your own movies. Might even be better than the final cut.
Funny enough. A Kang movie with time travel would be a good place to experiment with it. They could pull a Clue in theaters with multiple endings shipped to different locations or something like that. Then they can take it further with the streaming and home video releases.
Too bad the MCU pretty much fucked up presenting the character who was supposed to be the next Thanos.


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>>136797849
There are plenty of people who make fan edits of movies.


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>>136797849
>They should really just make a thing with all the movie scenes and let you build your own movies. Might even be better than the final cut.
Funny enough. A Kang movie with time travel would be a good place to experiment with it. They could pull a Clue in theaters with multiple endings shipped to different locations or something like that. Then they can take it further with the streaming and home video releases.
Too bad the MCU pretty much fucked up presenting the character who was supposed to be the next Thanos.

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>>136800311
>Too bad the MCU pretty much fucked up presenting the character who was supposed to be the next Thanos.
Not really?
He's presented well enough that we understand his strengths, that he operates from a position of technical superiority and there's not just the one. Sure there's parts of him that seem harmless but they did a pretty snug job showing it up at the endscene.
If I had one complaint it'd be that they really didn't go hard enough with the flashbacks she received when she touched the ship. That's the biggest failing of the movie and the setup, it fails to show just how much worse he is and how bad a network of them could be, an infinite supply popping out of other timelines that can work together.
I think the actor did a pretty good job at portraying him too, he's shown the sensitive and conniving sides flawlessly with the more dominant and commanding. It's a shame he's been cancelled for Dr. No'ing his girlfriend or something so they'll replace him with budget don cheadle like Kevin Hart or a CGI Bernie Mac instead.

I've seen the complaint that normies don't know who he is because of his inclusion in Loki and they couldn't wrap their head around it in this film LMAO HOW THE MOOPIE SPELLS IT OUT FOR YOU but I remember that normalfags also didn't understand who Thanos was when he hit the screen and I remember the endless threads and discussions about who's the purple guy lmaoooooooooooooooooooo


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>>136797849
There are plenty of people who make fan edits of movies.

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>>136800371
I kinda like some of the Dune fan edits, I'll go to the grave regretting never having seen Lynch's extended director's cut ala sneeder but I can go to the grave content that I've seen a good few fan edits.


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>>136800311
>Too bad the MCU pretty much fucked up presenting the character who was supposed to be the next Thanos.
Not really?
He's presented well enough that we understand his strengths, that he operates from a position of technical superiority and there's not just the one. Sure there's parts of him that seem harmless but they did a pretty snug job showing it up at the endscene.
If I had one complaint it'd be that they really didn't go hard enough with the flashbacks she received when she touched the ship. That's the biggest failing of the movie and the setup, it fails to show just how much worse he is and how bad a network of them could be, an infinite supply popping out of other timelines that can work together.
I think the actor did a pretty good job at portraying him too, he's shown the sensitive and conniving sides flawlessly with the more dominant and commanding. It's a shame he's been cancelled for Dr. No'ing his girlfriend or something so they'll replace him with budget don cheadle like Kevin Hart or a CGI Bernie Mac instead.

I've seen the complaint that normies don't know who he is because of his inclusion in Loki and they couldn't wrap their head around it in this film LMAO HOW THE MOOPIE SPELLS IT OUT FOR YOU but I remember that normalfags also didn't understand who Thanos was when he hit the screen and I remember the endless threads and discussions about who's the purple guy lmaoooooooooooooooooooo

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>>136800466
>so they'll replace him with budget don cheadle like Kevin Hart
I will now watch your Avengers Kang Dynasty movie


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>>136797849
May as well just make an RPG video game then


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>>136794877 (OP)
Wow, who knew the pretentious and unfunny fuck Bill Mirry tried to make his shitty character that no one gives a fuck about, anything worth more, like what kid will be like "oh yeah dad! I want to buy this action figure of Bilm Murry in this already shitty movie!" Fuck Bill Mirry

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>>136799539
Fuck Bill Murray?
Fuck you nigger loving jew


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>>136800311
>Too bad the MCU pretty much fucked up presenting the character who was supposed to be the next Thanos.
Not really?
He's presented well enough that we understand his strengths, that he operates from a position of technical superiority and there's not just the one. Sure there's parts of him that seem harmless but they did a pretty snug job showing it up at the endscene.
If I had one complaint it'd be that they really didn't go hard enough with the flashbacks she received when she touched the ship. That's the biggest failing of the movie and the setup, it fails to show just how much worse he is and how bad a network of them could be, an infinite supply popping out of other timelines that can work together.
I think the actor did a pretty good job at portraying him too, he's shown the sensitive and conniving sides flawlessly with the more dominant and commanding. It's a shame he's been cancelled for Dr. No'ing his girlfriend or something so they'll replace him with budget don cheadle like Kevin Hart or a CGI Bernie Mac instead.

I've seen the complaint that normies don't know who he is because of his inclusion in Loki and they couldn't wrap their head around it in this film LMAO HOW THE MOOPIE SPELLS IT OUT FOR YOU but I remember that normalfags also didn't understand who Thanos was when he hit the screen and I remember the endless threads and discussions about who's the purple guy lmaoooooooooooooooooooo

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>>136800466
>I've seen the complaint that normies don't know who he is because of his inclusion in Loki

That is rather bizarre to me. I remember reading a review where the critic was absolutely SEETHING he had to do "homework" to understand the movie by watching Loki, even though the script doesn't require you to do that, and explains all it needs to explain about Kang and his thing.


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>>136797849
You fags are so desperate to make your headcanons reality it's so sad

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>>136797889
Cope


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>>136800466
>I've seen the complaint that normies don't know who he is because of his inclusion in Loki

That is rather bizarre to me. I remember reading a review where the critic was absolutely SEETHING he had to do "homework" to understand the movie by watching Loki, even though the script doesn't require you to do that, and explains all it needs to explain about Kang and his thing.

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>>136800855
It's interesting because people were praising the MCU for being linked 10 years ago, they were jerking it off hard even when they didn't understand something. 7
Now they're seething when it happens and nothing's really changed except now the TV shows are prestige shows with like 6 > 10 eps and not a shitty *looks up american network* ABC show with 136 episodes that did tie in season by season.

I mentioned it above but this was a problem people had with comics before, they complained about event fatigue, about tie ins and needing to know X or Y before going in. Making this shit a movie doesn't change that, they didn't hire screenwriters that magically solved that problem, or rather they can't do that and still have stuff linked unless it's extremely vague.
How fast does stuff need to move along? How long do story arcs go? How much of an overarching story arc is required? I've seen complaints that the movies aren't creator driven enough, ok well cool, I'd love a cool creator focused stylish movie like something by Raimie too that doesn't really tie in much, that'd be real neato I gues-
-right.

Yeah. You can't win.
Either it's all a tie in or it isn't, either they ship the movies with catch up segments beforehand for normalfags or they don't.
This isn't a problem that can be solved where everyone gets what they want.
They've written a movie where they explain it plainly and they still complain, it's not like a box popped up in the corner for 10 seconds saying "SEE LOKI S01E05 & S01E06 FOR EVENTS TRUE BELIEVERS" with no information at all and they go straight to punchin' the bad man with no scenes showing how he ended up there.

Normalfags and newfags are mad they don't understand. Sucks to suck. That's how it's always been and the MCU did nothing to indicate it was going to solve that problem. The newfags now seethe that the thing they jerked 'em off for 10 years ago is the same.


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>>136800371
I kinda like some of the Dune fan edits, I'll go to the grave regretting never having seen Lynch's extended director's cut ala sneeder but I can go to the grave content that I've seen a good few fan edits.

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>>136800492
I really should get around to those.


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https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/ant-man-quantumania-star-katy-obrian-interview-love-lies-bleeding

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>"I had a couple fight scenes that got cut and there were a couple moments with Bill Murray. Instead of just getting killed at the cantina, he pursued Michelle Pfeiffer, and then wound up with Kang and got arrested. I helped bust him out, and then he pretends that he's with me the whole time and ready to fight. And I'm like, ‘Bro, come on.’ It was a lot. It would've been like a three-hour movie. And that's mostly what I remember. They were adding stuff to the script until the last day of shooting. So there was so much stuff that I think got cut in the end."

https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/ant-man-quantumania-star-katy-obrian-interview-love-lies-bleeding

[Assistant] They should really just make a thing with all the movie scenes and let you build your own movies. Might even be better than the final cut.


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>"I had a couple fight scenes that got cut and there were a couple moments with Bill Murray. Instead of just getting killed at the cantina, he pursued Michelle Pfeiffer, and then wound up with Kang and got arrested. I helped bust him out, and then he pretends that he's with me the whole time and ready to fight. And I'm like, ‘Bro, come on.’ It was a lot. It would've been like a three-hour movie. And that's mostly what I remember. They were adding stuff to the script until the last day of shooting. So there was so much stuff that I think got cut in the end."

https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/ant-man-quantumania-star-katy-obrian-interview-love-lies-bleeding

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Eh, sounds okay but the movie's trim and svelt enough. I'm fine with it as it is.

On the subject of adding too much to it. I watched a couple of the multiple hour long seethe about disney/MCU vids with this movie that have popped up and I don't get it.
What I mean is, I've noticed that a lot of the seethe about the films is mostly from people who either don't read comics or didn't read comics before 2010~. They have no idea of the concept of how stories played out, of crossovers, of contained knowledge and all the things that make you drop capeshit and enjoy writer based stories instead of constantly seething in a pit of despair over stupid decisions.
Yet they act like they were there, that OG cred, like they're not aware that changing medium doesn't magically fix that and the 2010 diversity wave wasn't going to hit the screen.
Watching some pasty white Englishman complain that Kang's black and Ant-Man has a daughter who's gotten into the science with her 2-3 awesome surrogate family members is just fuckin' bizarre and it makes me realise that Southern fairies really are trying their hardest to be pseud; and I fuckin' hate the term pseud btw.

It's unreal. It's a fuckin' movie, it's a serial, look at it as if it's a 3-4 issue little plot, that may contain a crossover to fucking countdown and get on with it. Nobody cares if a C lister like Ant dude's taking on the big bad kangs because dude, Animal Man had one of the best runs of all time where he confronts his creator and he's a fuckin' R lister and that was great, raised stakes and bottom of the barrel heroes secretly saving the universe is brilliant, it's great when they get jettisoned off to space to fight with the carrot green lantern to save the world from darkseid.

I don't need a 3 hour epic with 11 action scenes when we can have a movie showing a small bout with Kang that leads into another story. That's how comics worked and I don't need to seethe about it for 3 hours playing up my accent on YT either.