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>>136799870
>Come to think of it, this literally happened to Maya. Her past caught up with her little quiet existence and ruined not only her life, but that of her family as well.
Seems like both of Meti's pupils are different brands of poor swordsmen. At least Maya seems to have learned.

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>>136801283
>At least Maya seems to have learned.

That's their entire bit. Maya is a huge fuckup and as a result became better than Incubus. Incubus doesn't even attempt to be a fuck up because he's terrified of fucking up and having the others who constantly call him a loser be validated.


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>>136801436
Meti doesn't really stress that Incubus should be anything specific because he wasn't in the position to live a normal peasant life but still. Incubus had the potential to do anything he wanted and instead he decided to just sort of go with the flow his entire life and he's a miserable wreck as a result. Obviously go with the flow in this case is walk around beside Maya, take up her shit, and be a complete wreck for the rest of his life because he sat there constantly fuming about people thinking he sucked. If you go back to the initial stages of their trainings under Meti when Incubus was a complete blank slate retarded murder boy he was arguably better than Maya. Killed the rat, didn't give a fuck, etc. After that he's constantly in her shadow because Maya is constantly fucking up and growing and learning as a result and untold years later he's still going "muh middle army".

Could have plowed Maya's fertile pussy, could have died a slave, could have tried to kill god, could have called Meti a stupid old whore. He didn't though he just sat there as one of the wielders of the biggest rocks in existence and cried about it because he has self esteem problems.

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>>136802911
>could have called Meti a stupid old whore
There's a non-zero chance that he did before killing her.


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>>136801283
>At least Maya seems to have learned.

That's their entire bit. Maya is a huge fuckup and as a result became better than Incubus. Incubus doesn't even attempt to be a fuck up because he's terrified of fucking up and having the others who constantly call him a loser be validated.

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>>136802929
So basically Incubus is mediocre swordsman while Maya is a failed master


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>>136796284
And she doesn't even practice Head of John. Although neither did he back then. So I wonder if Maya is why he learned, after he failed to take her head he made sure she or no one could do it to him.

And then she cut his head off anyway.

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>>136802550
>>136802680
Head of John doesn't do anything to stop that kind of decapitation, its not called Head and Neck of John.


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>>136802550
nah, he has the studs when he catches up with maya,which makes it funnier that she's still better at not getting decapitated.

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>>136802550
>>136802680
Head of John doesn't do anything to stop that kind of decapitation, its not called Head and Neck of John.


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>>136795220
The counterpoint is that Maya's notion of Meti as being infallible Royalty is just as deluded as Salami Dave's concept of Zoss. Meti just as likely was telling her to be a noodle vendor because she was a mooching bum and wanted someone who'd hand over noodles for free everyday.

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>>136798666
>The counterpoint is that Maya's notion of Meti as being infallible Royalty is just as deluded as Salami Dave's concept of Zoss.
An important aspect about Meti's hermit philosopher bullshit is that while her no fucks given attitude and ability to cut through to the real essence of shit is great and really does put her on a closer level to god she's also literally just a huge homeless cunt. It's all well and good to go "BASED BASED BASED" when she manages to tear down a walking god in a single conversation but she's also going to shit on your home's wall because she had the runs from eating garbage and there's not a greater meaning into the inner workings of reality by her doing that. She's just having a diarrhea on your wall because she sucks.


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>>136795267
When we talk about big themes of the story and literal in universe mechanical shit like Royalty the big over under is that to truly get anywhere you have to be some combination of autistic or retarded and Incubus has committed the gravest sin possible, as far as the story is concerned, in being a midwit. Being a good swordsmen is a microcosm of Royalty and a lot of things in setting and the big message at the end of all ultimate mastery of the blade is "swords are actually kind of gay huh" and that's not a hump Incubus has been able to get over. You can do anime shit with a sword in setting and Incubus can obviously probably kill 99.99% of characters but that doesn't mean he's good with a sword as far as the metaphysics of the story is concerned. If he was REALLY good with a sword he'd be a drunken hobo pissing in the bushes and able to swing his mindcock "sword" to sunder his ties to reality and slice time and space. Hell maybe if he was the complete opposite and hopelessly autistic about swords he'd metaphysically cut himself int a finer and finer killing blade resulting in ultimate warrior Jaggy 2.0 and using his "sword" to "cut" his enemies but he's not that either. Instead he's a (comparative) pissbaby scrambling in the dirt for a literal sword to fight the big scary man because that's all he knows how to do instead of summoning his astral overswordsoul and swording a sword sword sword or at a bare minimum walking away to get drunk instead like any proper swordsman would.

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>>136802767
>manages to get internet connection in that fucking barrel
shitty old hag


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>>136802550
>>136802680
Head of John doesn't do anything to stop that kind of decapitation, its not called Head and Neck of John.

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>>136802992
I was reasonably certain the protection conferred applies to a fair bit of the neck as well.


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>>136802550
>>136802680
Head of John doesn't do anything to stop that kind of decapitation, its not called Head and Neck of John.

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>>136802992
I'd like to point out that according to the RPG book Head of John is supposed to let you shoot lasers and yet Incubus hasn't done that onscreen to date, that it's supposed to let you read the ambient emotional state of a situation, and that supposedly the benefits to the head go away if the left stud is somehow destroyed.


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>>136802992
I was reasonably certain the protection conferred applies to a fair bit of the neck as well.

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>>136803079
The webcomic does add that something about the atum being focused by the studs means that Head of John practitioners can deliver very, very powerful headbutts. So if I were a betting man I'd bet it does strengthen the neck a bit too.


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>>136796817
Royalty is crystallized want in its purest form.

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>>136798964
So Griffith?


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>>136799801
>>136799748
>>136799815
The author can barely explain what Solomon David did wrong on his civilization, apart from being comedically and unrealistically harsh on petty laws. Like the lesson seems to be that he shouldn't care about leaving his position to achieve royalty, but that would probably lead to a shitload of more suffering than not doing that, and odds are that Jag would kill everyone in the end regardless.

So what is the point?

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>>136799862
>What Solomon did wrong
He did not change the nature of the world. He built the equivalent of sandcastle on the beach in the grand scale of time. His empire was nothing but the blink of the eye in the infinity of the universe and did nothing to change the nature of the universe. He aspired to Godhood but could not escape the mindset of a man. Thus he was humbled and forced to realize with all the power he'd gained he was no true God King. He was just a farmer watching his field and family burn again only able to lash out in defiance and frustration but affect not true change.

Zoss literally spells it OUT for us. Mastering the wheel of the world will not let you change the world. It will simply bind chain you down further and further to the rules of the world even if you can shape it to your will. You are the world and can not expunge from you everything in the world you hate because you BECAME IT. The only one who can change the world is one who does not bend to the rules of the world.

Imagine a Rock hurtling to crush you. The world has dictated the Rock will crush you.
There things you can do to delay it.
Run from the Rock. Smash the Rock into a thousand itty piece but in the end the world has dictated the Rock will crush you and it will no matter what you do or how long it takes.
Failed Royalty can only delay the inevitable.
The truest royalty will be the one who can tell the World "No it won't."
The World has to impose it's rules on you constantly to bind you to it.
You only have to truly deny the world once to change the world.


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>>136799862
>What Solomon did wrong
He did not change the nature of the world. He built the equivalent of sandcastle on the beach in the grand scale of time. His empire was nothing but the blink of the eye in the infinity of the universe and did nothing to change the nature of the universe. He aspired to Godhood but could not escape the mindset of a man. Thus he was humbled and forced to realize with all the power he'd gained he was no true God King. He was just a farmer watching his field and family burn again only able to lash out in defiance and frustration but affect not true change.

Zoss literally spells it OUT for us. Mastering the wheel of the world will not let you change the world. It will simply bind chain you down further and further to the rules of the world even if you can shape it to your will. You are the world and can not expunge from you everything in the world you hate because you BECAME IT. The only one who can change the world is one who does not bend to the rules of the world.

Imagine a Rock hurtling to crush you. The world has dictated the Rock will crush you.
There things you can do to delay it.
Run from the Rock. Smash the Rock into a thousand itty piece but in the end the world has dictated the Rock will crush you and it will no matter what you do or how long it takes.
Failed Royalty can only delay the inevitable.
The truest royalty will be the one who can tell the World "No it won't."
The World has to impose it's rules on you constantly to bind you to it.
You only have to truly deny the world once to change the world.

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>>136803283
Yeah but he still objectively accomplished more than a drunk or a barrel hobo, who are also blinks in infinity or whatever


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>>136803283
Yeah but he still objectively accomplished more than a drunk or a barrel hobo, who are also blinks in infinity or whatever

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>>136803351
To infinity what is the difference between 1 and 100000000


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>>136803351
To infinity what is the difference between 1 and 100000000

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>>136803366
Nothing. But by that token there's no point in attaining Royalty at all.


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>>136803366
Nothing. But by that token there's no point in attaining Royalty at all.

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>>136803380
Yes! Everyone who has up to this point have obtained pointless power! The point is attaining Royalty is reaching the ability to change the world and everyone up to this point has always fucked up.
All the Royalty up to this point are basically people who started a hike to the top of a mountain and then stopped before reaching the summit.


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>>136803380
Yes! Everyone who has up to this point have obtained pointless power! The point is attaining Royalty is reaching the ability to change the world and everyone up to this point has always fucked up.
All the Royalty up to this point are basically people who started a hike to the top of a mountain and then stopped before reaching the summit.

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>>136803411
No, you misunderstand-there's no point in TRYING to attain Royalty, and running a city state-however archaic-is a better use of time than trying to pretentiously justify changing the world for some abstract value of "Better" nobody can even agree on.

If Jagganoth is going to wipe out everyone anyway then they might as well be comfy when the end comes, and so Solomon actually did nothing wrong.


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>>136799862
>What Solomon did wrong
He did not change the nature of the world. He built the equivalent of sandcastle on the beach in the grand scale of time. His empire was nothing but the blink of the eye in the infinity of the universe and did nothing to change the nature of the universe. He aspired to Godhood but could not escape the mindset of a man. Thus he was humbled and forced to realize with all the power he'd gained he was no true God King. He was just a farmer watching his field and family burn again only able to lash out in defiance and frustration but affect not true change.

Zoss literally spells it OUT for us. Mastering the wheel of the world will not let you change the world. It will simply bind chain you down further and further to the rules of the world even if you can shape it to your will. You are the world and can not expunge from you everything in the world you hate because you BECAME IT. The only one who can change the world is one who does not bend to the rules of the world.

Imagine a Rock hurtling to crush you. The world has dictated the Rock will crush you.
There things you can do to delay it.
Run from the Rock. Smash the Rock into a thousand itty piece but in the end the world has dictated the Rock will crush you and it will no matter what you do or how long it takes.
Failed Royalty can only delay the inevitable.
The truest royalty will be the one who can tell the World "No it won't."
The World has to impose it's rules on you constantly to bind you to it.
You only have to truly deny the world once to change the world.

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>>136803283
What's the point of changing the world anyway?


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>>136803283
What's the point of changing the world anyway?

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>>136803653
technically there isn't one, but when you attain incredible power, kill everyone else who knows how to use it, and make yourself the paternalistic god emperor of 1/7th of the multiverse, it's nice to think you'd do something worthwhile along the way. Solomon could've stopped with learning Ki Rata, tried to start a new family, and live a full and happy life protecting them, and he'd probably be solid.


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>>136802992
I was reasonably certain the protection conferred applies to a fair bit of the neck as well.

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>>136803079
>>136802992
I think that when it first came up on the comic it said something about transplanting your head to another body if you get decapitated


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>>136802550
>>136802680
Head of John doesn't do anything to stop that kind of decapitation, its not called Head and Neck of John.

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>>136803079
>>136802992
I think that when it first came up on the comic it said something about transplanting your head to another body if you get decapitated


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>>136799801
>>136799748
>>136799815
The author can barely explain what Solomon David did wrong on his civilization, apart from being comedically and unrealistically harsh on petty laws. Like the lesson seems to be that he shouldn't care about leaving his position to achieve royalty, but that would probably lead to a shitload of more suffering than not doing that, and odds are that Jag would kill everyone in the end regardless.

So what is the point?

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>>136799862
>>136799915
>>136800017
solomon wanted an utopy, one made exacly as his imagination
he built it by force
the only thing sustaining that utopy was his strenght
the moment he shows any weakness his population called him out

what is a tyrant without his army? what happens whit a ruler the moment his army is gone? his goverment falls apart


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>>136799862
>and odds are that Jag would kill everyone in the end regardless.
Jagg did kill everyone regardless, Solomon's tyranny was accepted by his people because he protected them and he failed to uphold his end.
Solomon is a firm hand patriarch who believed no one was as good as him and kept his empire in bronze age conditions rather than letting it grow beyond his perspective and guidance. Just because he was the least bad it doesn't mean he was perfect.

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>>136799862
>>136799915
>>136800017
solomon wanted an utopy, one made exacly as his imagination
he built it by force
the only thing sustaining that utopy was his strenght
the moment he shows any weakness his population called him out

what is a tyrant without his army? what happens whit a ruler the moment his army is gone? his goverment falls apart


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>>136799915
>Jagg did kill everyone regardless,
Yes, but they had eons of prosperity, rather than end up in infighting with thousand warlords seeking power through the power vaccine left by Solomon.

>Solomon's tyranny was accepted by his people because he protected them
And the bullshit truce did work for years apparently, and it's not like anyone could really depose him anyway, so it's not a matter of "accepting".

>letting it grow beyond his perspective and guidance.
Nobody has being able to stop Jag in several incarnations of reality. How you think things would have "suddenly" turned better if Solomon had done nothing? The only times somebody came close to deal with Jag also happened to be him, the other Demiurges and a girl with a gigantic plot armor.

>Just because he was the least bad it doesn't mean he was perfect.
There is no such thing as a perfect ruler, but there are worse things out there, and leaving an empire and not care about what happens with that is not the mark of a good ruler either.

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>>136799862
>>136799915
>>136800017
solomon wanted an utopy, one made exacly as his imagination
he built it by force
the only thing sustaining that utopy was his strenght
the moment he shows any weakness his population called him out

what is a tyrant without his army? what happens whit a ruler the moment his army is gone? his goverment falls apart


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>>136803283
What's the point of changing the world anyway?

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>>136803653
Because the ultimate form of truth and existence is to obtain the ability to change the world.
Yisun fundamentally changed existence by introducing the concept of "Plural" through self destruction. Yisun set the rules for everything that the world is governed by violence and deceit and destined for self destruction.
Yisun rejected their existence.
The only way anyone could be considered true divinity would be able to perform an action that held just as much weight and changed the world into something fundamentally unrecognizable.
The point of changing the world is dissatisfaction with how things are, but most people settle for deceiving themselves about how the world is instead.
Jagg is so strong because he's probably the CLOSEST out of anyone in trying match Yisun by unmaking everything. However, it's still inferior because it's not changing the world it's just ending it which is far easier.


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>>136799862
>>136799915
>>136800017
solomon wanted an utopy, one made exacly as his imagination
he built it by force
the only thing sustaining that utopy was his strenght
the moment he shows any weakness his population called him out

what is a tyrant without his army? what happens whit a ruler the moment his army is gone? his goverment falls apart

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>>136803996
Salami Dave without an army is Salami Dave. Every motherfucker in Salami Dave's country could get together to try and kill either him or Jagganoth and it WOULD NOT WORK.

If Jagganoth hadn't killed him, there was nothing stopping him from just beating his Empire into shape until he achieve his idea of utopia again. The sun was fucking missing and he dragged that shit back into orbit around his Kingdom. Arguably, the Kingdom IS Salami Dave.


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>>136803283
What's the point of changing the world anyway?

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>>136803653
Are you satisfied with the world? If not, cleave it until the shape pleases you. To need a reason is to cling to victory.


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>“Secret techniques? Here, girl, I’ll show you a secret way to pick your teeth. Ha ha!”

-Meti ten Ryo to her student Mathangi

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>>136795020
>>136795125
If we cannot have beard edits, then I must commit this sin.


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[User] Abby redacted those mistakes fast. Good on him. (notice Allison's limbs)

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>>136795020
>>136795125
If we cannot have beard edits, then I must commit this sin.


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>>136803996
Salami Dave without an army is Salami Dave. Every motherfucker in Salami Dave's country could get together to try and kill either him or Jagganoth and it WOULD NOT WORK.

If Jagganoth hadn't killed him, there was nothing stopping him from just beating his Empire into shape until he achieve his idea of utopia again. The sun was fucking missing and he dragged that shit back into orbit around his Kingdom. Arguably, the Kingdom IS Salami Dave.

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>>136804071
but his country without solomon strenght would fall apart
they are build around and for him only
he even was looking for a heir just because he couldnt leave his country alone, since it wouldnt be able to defend itself


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>>136803996
Salami Dave without an army is Salami Dave. Every motherfucker in Salami Dave's country could get together to try and kill either him or Jagganoth and it WOULD NOT WORK.

If Jagganoth hadn't killed him, there was nothing stopping him from just beating his Empire into shape until he achieve his idea of utopia again. The sun was fucking missing and he dragged that shit back into orbit around his Kingdom. Arguably, the Kingdom IS Salami Dave.

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>>136804071
>>136804131
what im trying to say is that salomon built a fake perfect city
a false working goberment
a mocking representation of how his ideal world would be


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>>136804071
but his country without solomon strenght would fall apart
they are build around and for him only
he even was looking for a heir just because he couldnt leave his country alone, since it wouldnt be able to defend itself

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>>136804071
>>136804131
what im trying to say is that salomon built a fake perfect city
a false working goberment
a mocking representation of how his ideal world would be


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>>136804071
>>136804131
what im trying to say is that salomon built a fake perfect city
a false working goberment
a mocking representation of how his ideal world would be

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>>136804168
But the city existed. It worked. It had housing. People. There was a population that were enjoying Rome-style gladiator matches. Sure, it was propped up by one guy, but that one guy only got taken out by a reality destroying demigod, which blew up the city as a casual fuck you to that one guy.

Throne is a shithole, and the fact that Salami City only existed because Salami willed it so isn't a mark against it or Salami Dave, because reality has been literally carved up like a pizza shared between Seven people, and if Salami Dave fucked off to do his own thing, what's stopping the over six from jumping in and grabbing his shit?


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>>136799708
>>He who desires but acts not, breeds pestilence
>Try to make a difference and change the world
>Trying to change the world necessarily needs power
>>Great Power corrupts and makes people lose sight of making WORLD NOT SUCK in the finer and smaller details and finding wrong solution to WORLD NOT SUCK because they can't deal with WORLD SUCK
>Idiots get lost on shit like "World suck so ignore it" "World suck so destroy it" "World suck so embrace it"

[Assistant] >>136799774


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>>136799801
>>136799748
>>136799815
The author can barely explain what Solomon David did wrong on his civilization, apart from being comedically and unrealistically harsh on petty laws. Like the lesson seems to be that he shouldn't care about leaving his position to achieve royalty, but that would probably lead to a shitload of more suffering than not doing that, and odds are that Jag would kill everyone in the end regardless.

So what is the point?

[Assistant]
>>136799862
>Solomon David did wrong
Dave's only sin stems from building a cage for himself and not going off to do what he WANTed. He wanted to pursue Royalty like Zoss? Zoss left his kingdom at its height because he saw the trappings of the cage around him. Dave had the chance to do the same.


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>>136799862
>Solomon David did wrong
Dave's only sin stems from building a cage for himself and not going off to do what he WANTed. He wanted to pursue Royalty like Zoss? Zoss left his kingdom at its height because he saw the trappings of the cage around him. Dave had the chance to do the same.

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>>136804273
>cage
OH blah blah! I'm tired of Abby's shit at this point, for a number of individuals in this comic their "Cages" were exactly what they wanted and not even a monkey's paw or anything! What's so wrong with get exactly what you wanted as long as you're decently happy with it?


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>>136804273
>cage
OH blah blah! I'm tired of Abby's shit at this point, for a number of individuals in this comic their "Cages" were exactly what they wanted and not even a monkey's paw or anything! What's so wrong with get exactly what you wanted as long as you're decently happy with it?

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>>136804353
None of them ARE happy with it you retard


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>>136804273
>cage
OH blah blah! I'm tired of Abby's shit at this point, for a number of individuals in this comic their "Cages" were exactly what they wanted and not even a monkey's paw or anything! What's so wrong with get exactly what you wanted as long as you're decently happy with it?

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>>136804353
You think Dave, Mottom, Mammon, Gog, etc. are or were decently happy?


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>>136804273
>cage
OH blah blah! I'm tired of Abby's shit at this point, for a number of individuals in this comic their "Cages" were exactly what they wanted and not even a monkey's paw or anything! What's so wrong with get exactly what you wanted as long as you're decently happy with it?

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>>136804353
>What's so wrong with get exactly what you wanted as long as you're decently happy with it?

They aren't happy with it anon, that's the point.

Solomon talked big shit about his empire being perfect but at the end of the day it was propped up by his power and without him it would crumble. He couldn't go out and pursue what he actually wanted instead he kept playing with his dolls and blocks pretending that everything was okay.
Mottom was trapped by all of the people devouring her worlds, she didn't want to be there but she felt obligated to since she was afraid of what would happen if she didn't.
Mammon got all his fat stacks and realized shit sucked because he sold out his family.
Incubus is a fucking goblin who wants to be the biggest, baddest motherfucker but inside is terrified of becoming that street rat again so he ends up obsessed with the illusion of power.
Gog is a pile of worms that hates the fact that they can think at all.
Jadis feels trapped by destiny even though that destiny sucks.
Jagganoth thinks he can make the world better and has tried countless times but can't move past the fact that maybe he's fucking wrong.

None of them are happy with where they are. You know who was? Meti, and she lived in a fucking barrel. She was there because she wanted to be and for no other reason. All of the Demiurges are playing roles they don't want to play.


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>>136804273
>cage
OH blah blah! I'm tired of Abby's shit at this point, for a number of individuals in this comic their "Cages" were exactly what they wanted and not even a monkey's paw or anything! What's so wrong with get exactly what you wanted as long as you're decently happy with it?

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>>136804353
None of them were happy with it especially David. Like the fucking song goes "It's wanting what'chu got~"


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>>136797858
Something else I thought about: the "test" Maya gave Alice was basically to determine whether or not she feared death.

Because she does not think about death, and so she does not fear it, and has no desire to secure the power necessary to escape it. If the Maybe Sword is a truly terrifying weapon, then it would stand to reason that she would be safe to use it responsibly.

In a way, Incubus is the complete opposite of Maya, given his fixation on the physical world.

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>>136798005
Reminds me of Rurouni Kenshin, when the protagonist Kenshin (a swordsman and former assassin who seeks peace and redemption but is constantly teetering on the edge or becoming a killer again) goes back to his master to learn the final technique.

As it turns out, the final technique is a very simple one, it's just taking one extra step while unsheathing the sword. But it's difficult to take that step when you're putting your life on the line.
The thing is, Kenshin fights always willing to die, because of his past sins. So the master decides to put the fucking fear of death on him by showing how ridiculously powerful he is: he's insurmountable, and if Kenshin can't pull off the technique, he'll kill him.

But the point isn't to make him afraid of death: mere disregard for his own life, or terror and desperation in the face of death are not enough, he has to value his life, or taking the step successfully will be impossible.

So I'm thinking the Maybe Sword could be something not technically difficult, like the final technique above, but it requires an enlightened state of mind to execute it properly and not become cursed (and curse the world as well) by it. No hatred or wish for the death of your opponent; no fear of your own death; no desperate attachment to victory, to conquest and the material; but a love of life, yours, your opponent, and everyone's.

Violence may be inescapable, but as Kassardis demonstrated, hatred, anger, and malice aren't.


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>>136804273
>cage
OH blah blah! I'm tired of Abby's shit at this point, for a number of individuals in this comic their "Cages" were exactly what they wanted and not even a monkey's paw or anything! What's so wrong with get exactly what you wanted as long as you're decently happy with it?

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>>136804353
Every single demiurge was or still is pretty profoundly unhappy.


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>>136804353
>What's so wrong with get exactly what you wanted as long as you're decently happy with it?

They aren't happy with it anon, that's the point.

Solomon talked big shit about his empire being perfect but at the end of the day it was propped up by his power and without him it would crumble. He couldn't go out and pursue what he actually wanted instead he kept playing with his dolls and blocks pretending that everything was okay.
Mottom was trapped by all of the people devouring her worlds, she didn't want to be there but she felt obligated to since she was afraid of what would happen if she didn't.
Mammon got all his fat stacks and realized shit sucked because he sold out his family.
Incubus is a fucking goblin who wants to be the biggest, baddest motherfucker but inside is terrified of becoming that street rat again so he ends up obsessed with the illusion of power.
Gog is a pile of worms that hates the fact that they can think at all.
Jadis feels trapped by destiny even though that destiny sucks.
Jagganoth thinks he can make the world better and has tried countless times but can't move past the fact that maybe he's fucking wrong.

None of them are happy with where they are. You know who was? Meti, and she lived in a fucking barrel. She was there because she wanted to be and for no other reason. All of the Demiurges are playing roles they don't want to play.

[Assistant]
>>136804458
>>136804546
Interestingly enough, being unsatisfied like the demiurges were makes them good candidates for Royalty. But they're all stuck in their obsessions or fears or clinging to their concept of victory. Solomon, Mottom, and Mammon are utterly trapped by their routines and habits and unable to break their patterns. Jagganoth and Incubus are both convinced that the power to kill is the only reality in the world, and this perspective limits them. Jadis is frozen solid because of her omniscience, and Gog clings to her constant mood swings and desire to be basically everyone and everything she sees.


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>>136804353
None of them were happy with it especially David. Like the fucking song goes "It's wanting what'chu got~"

[Assistant]
>>136804458
>>136804546
Interestingly enough, being unsatisfied like the demiurges were makes them good candidates for Royalty. But they're all stuck in their obsessions or fears or clinging to their concept of victory. Solomon, Mottom, and Mammon are utterly trapped by their routines and habits and unable to break their patterns. Jagganoth and Incubus are both convinced that the power to kill is the only reality in the world, and this perspective limits them. Jadis is frozen solid because of her omniscience, and Gog clings to her constant mood swings and desire to be basically everyone and everything she sees.


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>>136795267
When we talk about big themes of the story and literal in universe mechanical shit like Royalty the big over under is that to truly get anywhere you have to be some combination of autistic or retarded and Incubus has committed the gravest sin possible, as far as the story is concerned, in being a midwit. Being a good swordsmen is a microcosm of Royalty and a lot of things in setting and the big message at the end of all ultimate mastery of the blade is "swords are actually kind of gay huh" and that's not a hump Incubus has been able to get over. You can do anime shit with a sword in setting and Incubus can obviously probably kill 99.99% of characters but that doesn't mean he's good with a sword as far as the metaphysics of the story is concerned. If he was REALLY good with a sword he'd be a drunken hobo pissing in the bushes and able to swing his mindcock "sword" to sunder his ties to reality and slice time and space. Hell maybe if he was the complete opposite and hopelessly autistic about swords he'd metaphysically cut himself int a finer and finer killing blade resulting in ultimate warrior Jaggy 2.0 and using his "sword" to "cut" his enemies but he's not that either. Instead he's a (comparative) pissbaby scrambling in the dirt for a literal sword to fight the big scary man because that's all he knows how to do instead of summoning his astral overswordsoul and swording a sword sword sword or at a bare minimum walking away to get drunk instead like any proper swordsman would.

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>>136802767
I love this post.


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>>136798005
Reminds me of Rurouni Kenshin, when the protagonist Kenshin (a swordsman and former assassin who seeks peace and redemption but is constantly teetering on the edge or becoming a killer again) goes back to his master to learn the final technique.

As it turns out, the final technique is a very simple one, it's just taking one extra step while unsheathing the sword. But it's difficult to take that step when you're putting your life on the line.
The thing is, Kenshin fights always willing to die, because of his past sins. So the master decides to put the fucking fear of death on him by showing how ridiculously powerful he is: he's insurmountable, and if Kenshin can't pull off the technique, he'll kill him.

But the point isn't to make him afraid of death: mere disregard for his own life, or terror and desperation in the face of death are not enough, he has to value his life, or taking the step successfully will be impossible.

So I'm thinking the Maybe Sword could be something not technically difficult, like the final technique above, but it requires an enlightened state of mind to execute it properly and not become cursed (and curse the world as well) by it. No hatred or wish for the death of your opponent; no fear of your own death; no desperate attachment to victory, to conquest and the material; but a love of life, yours, your opponent, and everyone's.

Violence may be inescapable, but as Kassardis demonstrated, hatred, anger, and malice aren't.

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>>136804666
>but it requires an enlightened state of mind to execute it properly and not become cursed (and curse the world as well) by it. No hatred or wish for the death of your opponent; no fear of your own death; no desperate attachment to victory, to conquest and the material; but a love of life, yours, your opponent, and everyone's.
It's a possibility. To Maya it is a cursed technique because she's consumed by her hatred for Incubus, her pain and regret for following the path of the sword, losing her family, killing millions, she's constantly obsessing over her own death and contemplating suicide and hate is the only thing that keeps her going.
Allison is different. Look at Maya's reaction >>136795148 to Allison's answer. Her reply is so simple and comes so naturally it blows Maya away, she's too contemplative to ever be royalty, so she couldn't have come up with it. It's like when Meti asked her to throw her corpse to the dogs, to Meti it makes perfect sense, but Maya is horrified because she's too caught up in her reverence for Meti and the meaning behind death itself.


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[User] >>136795125

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>>136804666
>but it requires an enlightened state of mind to execute it properly and not become cursed (and curse the world as well) by it. No hatred or wish for the death of your opponent; no fear of your own death; no desperate attachment to victory, to conquest and the material; but a love of life, yours, your opponent, and everyone's.
It's a possibility. To Maya it is a cursed technique because she's consumed by her hatred for Incubus, her pain and regret for following the path of the sword, losing her family, killing millions, she's constantly obsessing over her own death and contemplating suicide and hate is the only thing that keeps her going.
Allison is different. Look at Maya's reaction >>136795148 to Allison's answer. Her reply is so simple and comes so naturally it blows Maya away, she's too contemplative to ever be royalty, so she couldn't have come up with it. It's like when Meti asked her to throw her corpse to the dogs, to Meti it makes perfect sense, but Maya is horrified because she's too caught up in her reverence for Meti and the meaning behind death itself.


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>>136797468
How does Meti keep moving forward while staying inside a barrel for eternity?

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>>136798651
Meti is essentially Diogenes the swordfighting bodhisattva. She teaches, both literally and via her lifestyle. Ascetics are typically seen as teachers and prophets, and Meti was both. Prophets are mostly known in the fortunetelling sense, but ancient connotations of prophethood involve living an outsider, revolutionary lifestyle as a critique against the current age. Judeo-Christian examples include Hosea marrying a prostitute and Ezekiel lying on his side for over a year. Their crazy outsider status is them embodying their own teachings.

All that's to say is the ascended hobo teacher archetype is very much in line with the idea of Royalty. Meti realized an ultimate truth, then set it aside and chose a lifestyle incongruous with her society. She's an anti-social contrarian, but that just masks her true nature as a master teacher. The entire trajectory of her life is a lesson against the study of violence, but she also knows that her students cannot learn that without walking her path themselves.


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>>136795293
>>136795691
Is Allison still technically an emissary of Incubus?

[Assistant]
>>136800504
Not since she french-kissed her murder hobo tendencies with her insecurities in the bank.


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>>136799862
>Solomon David did wrong
Dave's only sin stems from building a cage for himself and not going off to do what he WANTed. He wanted to pursue Royalty like Zoss? Zoss left his kingdom at its height because he saw the trappings of the cage around him. Dave had the chance to do the same.

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>>136804273
>Zoss left his kingdom at its height because he saw the trappings of the cage around him. Dave had the chance to do the same.
I mean the only reason Solomon didn't do that is because he wasn't as much of a sociopath as Zoss who gives no fuck about how the world is going to become after he steps down.


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>>136803653
Are you satisfied with the world? If not, cleave it until the shape pleases you. To need a reason is to cling to victory.

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>>136804097
So we go back to
>Try to make a difference and change the world
>Trying to change the world necessarily needs power
>>Great Power corrupts and makes people lose sight of making WORLD NOT SUCK in the finer and smaller details and finding wrong solution to WORLD NOT SUCK because they can't deal with WORLD SUCK
>Idiots get lost on shit like "World suck so ignore it" "World suck so destroy it" "World suck so embrace it"

The narrative really can't deal with this. In the end it's always about some retard trying to impose his values on the world and others through different forms of power and domination.


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>Allison
>All is one
fuckin

[Assistant]
>>136798765
>a lesson


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>>136795020
>>136795020
I was so looking forward to the extra text on this page, and it's the most anticlimatic and greatest it could be.

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>>136795406
Meti was the best and the worst master of them all.


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>>136798651
It's simple, she does a barrel roll.

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>>136798863
Shut the fuck up, Carlos ten Frizz ten Shitstain.


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To better understand Royalty let us examine the terminology used to describe it. To be "Royalty" is to "Cut". Why these terms? Yisun's first act was to "cut" themself, the divine act of division/suicide that created "others". Others that sought to further "cut", to further divide and make more "others".

These "others" seek to be "Royalty". Royalty is the state of being better than "others", to lord over "others" and is the state all "others" seek and they do so by "cutting" creating more "others". But is there an end state or is the action itself the goal despite being depicted by all close to "Royalty" as being wrong.

The reason for this is that despite the constant production of "others" all "others" are still Yisun. None can be Royalty because none can be better than Yisun, they are Yisun. There is no "other" to be "Royalty" over Yisun, there is only Yisun.

Yisun is a sub devoid of domme
Yisun is a bottom but there is no top
Yisun is lonely but is truly alone

Yisun seeks an "other" that is not Yisun
There is none other than Yisun

The true act of "cutting" is to be "other" than Yisun
To be "Royalty" is lord over Yisun, to let Yisun not be all there is.

Yisun is a liar, though.

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>>136806408
Does the author presumes that we have to take this seriously as a lesson for the real world?

Because most of it is pure magic non sense. Does it even has something worthwhile to say to the reader, apart from being neat world building?

>The reason for this is that despite the constant production of "others" all "others" are still Yisun. None can be Royalty because none can be better than Yisun, they are Yisun. There is no "other" to be "Royalty" over Yisun, there is only Yisun

So all of this is bulshit and pointless. As other anon mentioned, there is no point in "seeking" this nebulous concept.


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User] What is the deal with Royalty? Anons here claim it's understanding and accepting the nature of life and the universe to the point of being able to go "no u" to reality. But the only one who did something like that was YISUN, who was literal Big G God, so that hardly sets a standard. And what of the other Royal individuals? Hansa lived and died bitter and miserable, his only legacy being that even after dying he still made his daughter miserable. Meti lived and died bitter and miserable, her only legacy being that even after dying she still made her students miserable. For all that understanding and acceptance, neither of them did anything with it except drag others down. And they didn't need Royalty to just be old, wrinkly jerks. Why does anyone want this?

[Assistant]
>>136796817
To many questions, be like Alice. Don't think. Just do. That is the path to transcendence.


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>>136800283
CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE RESPONSE. DID YOU MEAN:
> Democracy means direct democracy with no limits, unlike modern republics
You are a moron who does not understand categories, but at least you are not:
> Democracy is bad, we should be ruled by whatever warlord makes it to the top
You have somehow ignored all of history, or idiotically think you'd be in the ruling class

[Assistant]
>>136800344
>You have somehow ignored all of history, or idiotically think you'd be in the ruling class
We aren't even in the "ruling class" here in the US right now.
On paper we are but in practice it's up to the mega-corps.


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>>136796817
To many questions, be like Alice. Don't think. Just do. That is the path to transcendence.

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>>136806521
And why is that desirable? "lol I dunno, don't think why you should want that"


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>>136806408
Does the author presumes that we have to take this seriously as a lesson for the real world?

Because most of it is pure magic non sense. Does it even has something worthwhile to say to the reader, apart from being neat world building?

>The reason for this is that despite the constant production of "others" all "others" are still Yisun. None can be Royalty because none can be better than Yisun, they are Yisun. There is no "other" to be "Royalty" over Yisun, there is only Yisun

So all of this is bulshit and pointless. As other anon mentioned, there is no point in "seeking" this nebulous concept.

[Assistant]
>>136806509
>So all of this is bulshit and pointless.
Until it's not.


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>>136806509
>So all of this is bulshit and pointless.
Until it's not.

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>>136806544
>Until it's not.
Give an example


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>>136806544
>Until it's not.
Give an example

[Assistant]
>>136806552
Life itself


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[User] >sword mastery

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>>136795004 (OP)
>>136795020
Oh no! My auntie can't be this cute!


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>“Secret techniques? Here, girl, I’ll show you a secret way to pick your teeth. Ha ha!”

-Meti ten Ryo to her student Mathangi

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>>136795004 (OP)
>>136795020
Oh no! My auntie can't be this cute!


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>>136806544
>Until it's not.
Give an example

[Assistant]
>>136806552
I can't, it hasn't happened yet.
Maybe.


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>>136806552
Life itself

[Assistant]
>>136806563
>Life itself
This is not an answer for "why people should seek Royalty when it's not possible to reach, and trying to get there caused countless death and suffering".


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>>136806563
>Life itself
This is not an answer for "why people should seek Royalty when it's not possible to reach, and trying to get there caused countless death and suffering".

[Assistant]
>>136806594
It is
You are just stuck into the details.


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>>136806594
It is
You are just stuck into the details.

[Assistant]
>>136806607
So explain how.
You are being vague to avoid addressing the issues, while larping as some brahmin cliche when you are likely just a fat nerd from Connecticut.


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>>136804168
But the city existed. It worked. It had housing. People. There was a population that were enjoying Rome-style gladiator matches. Sure, it was propped up by one guy, but that one guy only got taken out by a reality destroying demigod, which blew up the city as a casual fuck you to that one guy.

Throne is a shithole, and the fact that Salami City only existed because Salami willed it so isn't a mark against it or Salami Dave, because reality has been literally carved up like a pizza shared between Seven people, and if Salami Dave fucked off to do his own thing, what's stopping the over six from jumping in and grabbing his shit?

[Assistant]
>>136804249
Solomon Dave was a god-king in the worst sense, he held the games to brutally murder anyone who challenged him and had no intention of ever retiring for any reason.

Dude just wanted to sit around playing The Sims and that's not constructive for his personal journey or many of his citizens, who have a hard cap on the achievable set by the God-King's fisticuffs.


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>>136806607
So explain how.
You are being vague to avoid addressing the issues, while larping as some brahmin cliche when you are likely just a fat nerd from Connecticut.

[Assistant]
>>136806620
You are stuck into an endless loop of your own making

Congratulations


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>>136806563
>Life itself
This is not an answer for "why people should seek Royalty when it's not possible to reach, and trying to get there caused countless death and suffering".

[Assistant]
>>136806594
Conceive the inconceivable
Touch the untouchable
See the invisible

Yisun be not!Yisun

Eventually
Maybe


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>>136806620
You are stuck into an endless loop of your own making

Congratulations

[Assistant]
>>136806632
You are stuck with your head inside a big hairy asshole.

My post has the same value and address the issue as much as yours.


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>>136806632
You are stuck with your head inside a big hairy asshole.

My post has the same value and address the issue as much as yours.

[Assistant]
>>136806641
Keep looping
Someday you will understand


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>>136806594
Conceive the inconceivable
Touch the untouchable
See the invisible

Yisun be not!Yisun

Eventually
Maybe

[Assistant]
>>136806634
You are right.
This justifies all the genocide to attain royalty. Sorry for doubting.


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>>136797018
The author is merely incorporating Buddhism (specifically the Wheel of Samsara and how to escape it) into the story bro. It's not all that hard to understand.

[Assistant]
>>136799694
Comedy is a continuous legume joke.


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>>136806641
Keep looping
Someday you will understand

[Assistant]
>>136806653
Explain how I am on a loop.

If your argument is that I'm on a loop because I want to understand your reasoning and the mindset behind it, then all that you are saying is that I should accept whatever you say at face value without critical sense.


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>>136806563
>Life itself
This is not an answer for "why people should seek Royalty when it's not possible to reach, and trying to get there caused countless death and suffering".

[Assistant]
>>136806594
Royalty is a continuous cutting motion, just keep self actualizing to be royal.
All of the failed Demiurges have their stories stop at "agreed to be part of the 7, then stared at each other nursing personal problems they can't/won't overcome".


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>>136806634
You are right.
This justifies all the genocide to attain royalty. Sorry for doubting.

[Assistant]
>>136806654
Well now at least you're in Jag's loop. That's technically progress.


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>>136806653
Explain how I am on a loop.

If your argument is that I'm on a loop because I want to understand your reasoning and the mindset behind it, then all that you are saying is that I should accept whatever you say at face value without critical sense.

[Assistant]
>>136806675
You don't have to accept.
Neither does that anon.
How does that make you feel?


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>>136806594
Conceive the inconceivable
Touch the untouchable
See the invisible

Yisun be not!Yisun

Eventually
Maybe

[Assistant]
>>136806634
>You should seek royalty because uuuhh...I dunno, maybe the comic will answer why


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>>136806675
You don't have to accept.
Neither does that anon.
How does that make you feel?

[Assistant]
>>136806692
Makes me feel like I'm talking to an idiot who takes seriously non sense philosophy from a webcomic of an author that doesn't even believe on this.


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>>136806594
Royalty is a continuous cutting motion, just keep self actualizing to be royal.
All of the failed Demiurges have their stories stop at "agreed to be part of the 7, then stared at each other nursing personal problems they can't/won't overcome".

[Assistant]
>>136806686
>just keep self actualizing to be royal.
So that defines royalty as merely "when I feel good doing things that I want".


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>>136806692
Makes me feel like I'm talking to an idiot who takes seriously non sense philosophy from a webcomic of an author that doesn't even believe on this.

[Assistant]
>>136806704
Maybe you are the idiot
Put some thought on it


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>>136806692
Makes me feel like I'm talking to an idiot who takes seriously non sense philosophy from a webcomic of an author that doesn't even believe on this.

[Assistant]
>>136806704
Then the path is clear, embrace violence and call anon a fag, as is your right. Just know that anon does not have to care.


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>>136806704
Maybe you are the idiot
Put some thought on it

[Assistant]
>>136806726
>No u
Deep


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>>136806704
Then the path is clear, embrace violence and call anon a fag, as is your right. Just know that anon does not have to care.

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>>136806729
>Just know that anon does not have to care.
I don't expect anon to care, neither expect anon to have an answer to that.

 I expect anon to larp as Mr.Karate Kid and spout platitudes.


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[User] >sword mastery

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>>136795004 (OP)
>cultural appropriating is good as long as it done by women and blacks
>white men being depicted interacting with other cultures is however totally forbidden even if it is based on historical events
why do liberals just not say that they like it if white men have less rights then everyone else and that every law they push is only there to hurt straight white men?


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>>136806729
>Just know that anon does not have to care.
I don't expect anon to care, neither expect anon to have an answer to that.

 I expect anon to larp as Mr.Karate Kid and spout platitudes.

[Assistant]
>>136806746
Answers were given
You are just an idiot


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>>136806746
Answers were given
You are just an idiot

[Assistant]
>>136806756
Maybe you are the idiot
Put some thought on it


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>>136806756
Maybe you are the idiot
Put some thought on it

[Assistant]
>>136806764
No need for it
I already have the answers


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>>136806756
Maybe you are the idiot
Put some thought on it

[Assistant]
>>136806764
>>136806783
Ladies please! You're both pretty.


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>>136806764
No need for it
I already have the answers

[Assistant]
>>136806764
>>136806783
Ladies please! You're both pretty.


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>>136806764
No need for it
I already have the answers

[Assistant]
>>136806783
Answer for what? You know that the cosmology of this comic makes no sense in real life right? Like, if applied to real life it would make no damn sense because the metaphysics of the world have nothing to do with that.


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>>136802929
So basically Incubus is mediocre swordsman while Maya is a failed master

[Assistant]
>>136802984
>>136802929
Consider: the undefeated swordsman must be exceptionally poor.


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>>136801283
>At least Maya seems to have learned.

That's their entire bit. Maya is a huge fuckup and as a result became better than Incubus. Incubus doesn't even attempt to be a fuck up because he's terrified of fucking up and having the others who constantly call him a loser be validated.

[Assistant]
>>136802984
>>136802929
Consider: the undefeated swordsman must be exceptionally poor.


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>“Secret techniques? Here, girl, I’ll show you a secret way to pick your teeth. Ha ha!”

-Meti ten Ryo to her student Mathangi

[Assistant]
>>136795020
Liar.


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>>136795020
Liar.

[Assistant]
>>136806846
She didn't think about it, she asked about it.


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>>136795004 (OP)
>cultural appropriating is good as long as it done by women and blacks
>white men being depicted interacting with other cultures is however totally forbidden even if it is based on historical events
why do liberals just not say that they like it if white men have less rights then everyone else and that every law they push is only there to hurt straight white men?

[Assistant]
>>136806751
>why do liberals just not say that they like it if white men have less rights then everyone else and that every law they push is only there to hurt straight white men?

Those are SJWs not liberals in general. Don't group me in with them just because I don't want to live in a dystopia controlled by rich corporations and religious zealots.


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Niggas could just say that "Royalty is the continuous pursuit of self satisfaction" but outright saying that sounds way less glamorous than esoteric mambo jambo.

It also makes said pursuit "questionable" - for example, "isn't always seeking the pursuit of self satisfaction egoist, and can lead to the suffering of others by abdicating of your responsibilities and empathy?"

And this is when things start to become non sense.

[Assistant]
>>136806914
It can lead to suffering. it doesn't have to. Royalty can thread the needle. While anyone can be royalty, not everyone will be.


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>>136798964
So Griffith?

[Assistant]
>>136803253
Griffith's will was tainted. If anything, he's a demiurge like the seven.


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Niggas could just say that "Royalty is the continuous pursuit of self satisfaction" but outright saying that sounds way less glamorous than esoteric mambo jambo.

It also makes said pursuit "questionable" - for example, "isn't always seeking the pursuit of self satisfaction egoist, and can lead to the suffering of others by abdicating of your responsibilities and empathy?"

And this is when things start to become non sense.

[Assistant]
>>136806914
Same applies to all this talk about "you shouldn't care about death and Alisson doesn't care about death"

Of fucking course she cares about death. It's the entire reason she wants to prevent Jagg from destroying the universe. Maybe she doesn't care about her own life, but she clearly cares about the life of others and the world at large - otherwise why she would make any of this?

>>136806950
>It can lead to suffering. it doesn't have to.
To attain royalty more often than not seem to involve not giving a fuck to the suffering that you cause on others and just being egoist.


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>>136806914
It can lead to suffering. it doesn't have to. Royalty can thread the needle. While anyone can be royalty, not everyone will be.

[Assistant]
>>136806914
Same applies to all this talk about "you shouldn't care about death and Alisson doesn't care about death"

Of fucking course she cares about death. It's the entire reason she wants to prevent Jagg from destroying the universe. Maybe she doesn't care about her own life, but she clearly cares about the life of others and the world at large - otherwise why she would make any of this?

>>136806950
>It can lead to suffering. it doesn't have to.
To attain royalty more often than not seem to involve not giving a fuck to the suffering that you cause on others and just being egoist.


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>>136806914
Same applies to all this talk about "you shouldn't care about death and Alisson doesn't care about death"

Of fucking course she cares about death. It's the entire reason she wants to prevent Jagg from destroying the universe. Maybe she doesn't care about her own life, but she clearly cares about the life of others and the world at large - otherwise why she would make any of this?

>>136806950
>It can lead to suffering. it doesn't have to.
To attain royalty more often than not seem to involve not giving a fuck to the suffering that you cause on others and just being egoist.

[Assistant]
>>136806988
>Of fucking course she cares about death. It's the entire reason she wants to prevent Jagg from destroying the universe.
Yisun is a liar, after all.

>To attain royalty more often than not seem to involve not giving a fuck to the suffering that you cause on others and just being egoist.
All are considered failures.


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>>136806988
>Of fucking course she cares about death. It's the entire reason she wants to prevent Jagg from destroying the universe.
Yisun is a liar, after all.

>To attain royalty more often than not seem to involve not giving a fuck to the suffering that you cause on others and just being egoist.
All are considered failures.

[Assistant]
>>136807010
>Yisun is a liar, after all
It's inconsistent

>All are considered failures
Zoss is like that and he is considered Royalty


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>>136806988
>Of fucking course she cares about death. It's the entire reason she wants to prevent Jagg from destroying the universe.
Yisun is a liar, after all.

>To attain royalty more often than not seem to involve not giving a fuck to the suffering that you cause on others and just being egoist.
All are considered failures.

[Assistant]
>>136807010
>>To attain royalty more often than not seem to involve not giving a fuck to the suffering that you cause on others and just being egoist.
>All are considered failures.
Oh and also Aesma. She is like that and is also considered Royalty.


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>>136807010
>Yisun is a liar, after all
It's inconsistent

>All are considered failures
Zoss is like that and he is considered Royalty

[Assistant]
>>136807027
>>136807040
Zoss is furthest along the path but no, no one is canonically TRUE Royalty.


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>>136807010
>>To attain royalty more often than not seem to involve not giving a fuck to the suffering that you cause on others and just being egoist.
>All are considered failures.
Oh and also Aesma. She is like that and is also considered Royalty.

[Assistant]
>>136807027
>>136807040
Zoss is furthest along the path but no, no one is canonically TRUE Royalty.


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[User] I don't think there was a single person who both attained le royalty and wasn't an utter toxic cunt. Moldavian village rapist would be le royality too.

[Assistant]
>>136807056
Intra was as royal as they come and he was a pretty swell guy


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>>136806408
Does the author presumes that we have to take this seriously as a lesson for the real world?

Because most of it is pure magic non sense. Does it even has something worthwhile to say to the reader, apart from being neat world building?

>The reason for this is that despite the constant production of "others" all "others" are still Yisun. None can be Royalty because none can be better than Yisun, they are Yisun. There is no "other" to be "Royalty" over Yisun, there is only Yisun

So all of this is bulshit and pointless. As other anon mentioned, there is no point in "seeking" this nebulous concept.

[Assistant]
>>136806509
To qualify for "royalty" you merely must have the capacity for self-sacrifice and to surrender yourself for the sake of others.

"Cutting" is the act of separating one thing from another. Splitting one thing into two isn't only an act of sacrifice, but also an act of creation of another object, separate yet also the same. Yisun is still Yisun when split into a million pieces, but he cannot be "Royalty" because he needs to sacrifice himself in totality.


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>>136807096
You are making a very grave mistake in your thought process in that you think there are "examples" of Royalty. There are only close calls and warnings. Royalty has not been yet, all that is past is a failure.

Be what you are not
Conceive the inconceivable
Yisun seeks not!Yisun
Become something new

[Assistant]
>>136807140
>There are only close calls and warnings. Royalty has not been yet, all that is past is a failure.
"True Royalty has never been implemented" is a poor excuse. You also don't explain why "royalty" would have anything to do with if an action if "right/wrong/cuntish".

You just say "not true royalty", but you would only be able to point at something and say "not true royalty" if you had a good picture of what Royalty REALLY looks like. And you don't have.

So you can't say.


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>>136806509
To qualify for "royalty" you merely must have the capacity for self-sacrifice and to surrender yourself for the sake of others.

"Cutting" is the act of separating one thing from another. Splitting one thing into two isn't only an act of sacrifice, but also an act of creation of another object, separate yet also the same. Yisun is still Yisun when split into a million pieces, but he cannot be "Royalty" because he needs to sacrifice himself in totality.

[Assistant]
>>136807169
>To qualify for "royalty" you merely must have the capacity for self-sacrifice and to surrender yourself for the sake of others.
This message is not present on the comic, because we do have characters sacrificing their own desires for enlightenment for the sake of others - and apparently doing that is anti-royal.

Meanwhile Zoss abandoning his spot and letting the Demiurges do whatever they want is the more "roayl" approach.

Also "self sacrifice" is barely brought up when discussing the theme. It's mainly will and following your desires and intentions.


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>>136806509
To qualify for "royalty" you merely must have the capacity for self-sacrifice and to surrender yourself for the sake of others.

"Cutting" is the act of separating one thing from another. Splitting one thing into two isn't only an act of sacrifice, but also an act of creation of another object, separate yet also the same. Yisun is still Yisun when split into a million pieces, but he cannot be "Royalty" because he needs to sacrifice himself in totality.

[Assistant]
>>136807169
>"Cutting" is the act of separating one thing from another. Splitting one thing into two isn't only an act of sacrifice, but also an act of creation of another object, separate yet also the same. Yisun is still Yisun when split into a million pieces, but he cannot be "Royalty" because he needs to sacrifice himself in totality.

Nothing about this has anything to do with Royalty not being amoral and egoist.


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[User] >sword mastery

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>>136795004 (OP)
>ksbd
Does anyone has the link to the last thread?


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[User] What is the deal with Royalty? Anons here claim it's understanding and accepting the nature of life and the universe to the point of being able to go "no u" to reality. But the only one who did something like that was YISUN, who was literal Big G God, so that hardly sets a standard. And what of the other Royal individuals? Hansa lived and died bitter and miserable, his only legacy being that even after dying he still made his daughter miserable. Meti lived and died bitter and miserable, her only legacy being that even after dying she still made her students miserable. For all that understanding and acceptance, neither of them did anything with it except drag others down. And they didn't need Royalty to just be old, wrinkly jerks. Why does anyone want this?

[Assistant]
>>136796817
It's Existentialist Nirvana.


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>>136807140
>There are only close calls and warnings. Royalty has not been yet, all that is past is a failure.
"True Royalty has never been implemented" is a poor excuse. You also don't explain why "royalty" would have anything to do with if an action if "right/wrong/cuntish".

You just say "not true royalty", but you would only be able to point at something and say "not true royalty" if you had a good picture of what Royalty REALLY looks like. And you don't have.

So you can't say.

[Assistant]
>>136807176
>>136807210
It's simple really. Yisun is all so why would one become Royalty, how could it be Royal, harming Yisun?


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>>136807169
>To qualify for "royalty" you merely must have the capacity for self-sacrifice and to surrender yourself for the sake of others.
This message is not present on the comic, because we do have characters sacrificing their own desires for enlightenment for the sake of others - and apparently doing that is anti-royal.

Meanwhile Zoss abandoning his spot and letting the Demiurges do whatever they want is the more "roayl" approach.

Also "self sacrifice" is barely brought up when discussing the theme. It's mainly will and following your desires and intentions.

[Assistant]
>>136807176
>>136807210
It's simple really. Yisun is all so why would one become Royalty, how could it be Royal, harming Yisun?


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>>136807169
>To qualify for "royalty" you merely must have the capacity for self-sacrifice and to surrender yourself for the sake of others.
This message is not present on the comic, because we do have characters sacrificing their own desires for enlightenment for the sake of others - and apparently doing that is anti-royal.

Meanwhile Zoss abandoning his spot and letting the Demiurges do whatever they want is the more "roayl" approach.

Also "self sacrifice" is barely brought up when discussing the theme. It's mainly will and following your desires and intentions.

[Assistant]
>>136807210
Zoss said it himself: Someone who masters the wheel cannot break it, and the world inevitably turns to ruin. Despite all his power and witchcraft, the only solution he could find to subvert the wheel was to surrender his legacy to the next heir.

If you look closely at the Demiurges, each one is suffering in their own unique type of hell because they became slaves to the things they desired the most, and it inevitably brought them low because they were unable to give them up.


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>I will teach you the maybe sword
>the WHAT sword now?
>no, the what sword is next week allyson

[Assistant]
>>136795923
>What about that angel?
>Yes, Angle.
>Who’s that?
>No, That is the devil.
>the Angle?
>Yes, Angel!
>WHAT SWORD!


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Niggas could just say that "Royalty is the continuous pursuit of self satisfaction" but outright saying that sounds way less glamorous than esoteric mambo jambo.

It also makes said pursuit "questionable" - for example, "isn't always seeking the pursuit of self satisfaction egoist, and can lead to the suffering of others by abdicating of your responsibilities and empathy?"

And this is when things start to become non sense.

[Assistant]
>>136806914
Its not self-satisfaction, all the Demiurges successfully achieved their goals and wound up completely miserable because they couldn't grow past their success.

Its why everyone scorns Incubus, he's the most trapped by his preconceptions cuz he can't kill noodle lady.


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>>136795625
And yet, he's never mentioned in her Sword Manual, and Maya is, more than once, referred to as her only apprentice.
Has Incubus always been just the monster for Maya to strengthen herself against? I used to think that, then I changed my mind, but that particular aspect of the manual keeps me from abandoning the idea completely.

[Assistant]
>>136798722
Yes, but who wrote the Sword Manual? Meti doesn't strike me as the kind of person who kept notes, so logically that means that one of her pupils wrote it and golly gee whiz would you look at that it makes out that there was only one pupil (obviously the real one, the protagonist, the big shot idiot)


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>>136795923
>What about that angel?
>Yes, Angle.
>Who’s that?
>No, That is the devil.
>the Angle?
>Yes, Angel!
>WHAT SWORD!

[Assistant]
>>136807502
>so, disciple, I have taught you the maybe sword and the what sword; do you think you are ready for the third technique?
>I don't know, maybe?
>foolish disciple, you've already learned the maybe sword, and you are not ready for I don't know, the fourth technique
>what, you don't know?
>I just taught you the what sword, of course I knew
>but what about the fourth technique?
>oh, I don't know?
>so do you know or not?
>of course I know, Meti herself taught me I don't know
>so let me get this straight, the fourth technique is named I don't know?
>correct
>but why?
>I see you've heard of the third technique!


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>>136804273
>Zoss left his kingdom at its height because he saw the trappings of the cage around him. Dave had the chance to do the same.
I mean the only reason Solomon didn't do that is because he wasn't as much of a sociopath as Zoss who gives no fuck about how the world is going to become after he steps down.

[Assistant]
>>136806388
It's true that Solomon is more sensible in that regard, but the thing is that he doesn't actually do anything that would prepare his empire for his absence. He claims he wants to follow the path of Zoss but will only do so if he finds a worthy heir yet his only method of doing so is holding a tournament hoping that one of the random schmucks will be powerful enough to beat him. If he actually gave a damn about the longevity of his empire he'd have prepared it for his absence. Instead he just parades around pretending to be an immortal and invincible god who has complete control of his empire cause he can't believe someone could do it as well as him.


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>>136799801
>>136799748
>>136799815
The author can barely explain what Solomon David did wrong on his civilization, apart from being comedically and unrealistically harsh on petty laws. Like the lesson seems to be that he shouldn't care about leaving his position to achieve royalty, but that would probably lead to a shitload of more suffering than not doing that, and odds are that Jag would kill everyone in the end regardless.

So what is the point?

[Assistant]
>>136799862
>solomon raises a civilization comprised of his progeny so that they can take up his mantle
>solomon is too proud, refuses to acknowledge his sons as potential rulers
>'what did he do wrong?'


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>>136795020
Liar.

[Assistant]
>>136806846
It's the exact kind of hollywood trope question Allison would ask. She doesn't even have to think about it.


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>“Secret techniques? Here, girl, I’ll show you a secret way to pick your teeth. Ha ha!”

-Meti ten Ryo to her student Mathangi

[Assistant]
>>136795020
The beautiful idiot strikes again. Bless her.
short haired ally is growing on me


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[User] What is the deal with Royalty? Anons here claim it's understanding and accepting the nature of life and the universe to the point of being able to go "no u" to reality. But the only one who did something like that was YISUN, who was literal Big G God, so that hardly sets a standard. And what of the other Royal individuals? Hansa lived and died bitter and miserable, his only legacy being that even after dying he still made his daughter miserable. Meti lived and died bitter and miserable, her only legacy being that even after dying she still made her students miserable. For all that understanding and acceptance, neither of them did anything with it except drag others down. And they didn't need Royalty to just be old, wrinkly jerks. Why does anyone want this?

[Assistant]
>>136796817
Royalty is just I.


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>>136799862
>solomon raises a civilization comprised of his progeny so that they can take up his mantle
>solomon is too proud, refuses to acknowledge his sons as potential rulers
>'what did he do wrong?'

[Assistant]
>>136807794
Anon, we're not talking about taking over the family farm. We're talking about being the chief executive of a star-spanning empire.

The only mistake Dave ever made was expecting his sons to EVER raise themselves to his level.


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>>136799933
It seems like every demiurge is trapped in a prison of their own making.

[Assistant]
>>136800342
Thats kind of the theme among them with a side of Seven Deadly Sins, yeah.


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>>136795004 (OP)
>cultural appropriating is good as long as it done by women and blacks
>white men being depicted interacting with other cultures is however totally forbidden even if it is based on historical events
why do liberals just not say that they like it if white men have less rights then everyone else and that every law they push is only there to hurt straight white men?

[Assistant]
>>136806751
what the fuck are you talking about


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I'm 4 pages in and I gotta ask
does western girl white haired zoro also like chugging alcohol too?

[Assistant]
>>136807917
I don't know if the likes it, but she is good at it.
I will become plot relevant.


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>>136795004 (OP)
This is bikecuck logic, is bikecuck royalty?

[Assistant]
>>136801131
Bikecuck thinks of others and allows them to influence his actions. This is not royalty.


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>>136802767
Tl;dr:
Incubus didn't master the sword, for he had become enslaved by it. Not to mention that he failed at becoming a sword, which is what a true swordsmaster is.

[Assistant]
>>136802866
Yeah, he showed what a failure of a swordsman he is, when he lost a sword and actually needed a new one. That's poser-tier in this sort of setting.


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>>136802767
Tl;dr:
Incubus didn't master the sword, for he had become enslaved by it. Not to mention that he failed at becoming a sword, which is what a true swordsmaster is.

[Assistant]
>>136802866
Incubus became extremely proficient with a sword, but literally the first chapter of Meti's manual is about how in her first real fight her sword shattered and she had to kill a colossus with her bare hands. And how once one has acquired mastery they realize they don't need a sword. Incubus took all literally and missed all the subtext, he mindlessly followed Meti's orders from shaving with a rusty sword to feeding her corpse to dogs, he was a dutiful student but one very limited by his upbringing.


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[User] Abby redacted those mistakes fast. Good on him. (notice Allison's limbs)

[Assistant]
>>136795125
What's his deal


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>>136795125
What's his deal

[Assistant]
>>136809968
>Be servant race, created by the god Yis-Samal.
>"What is our purpose?"
>"SWEEP"


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>>136795587
You are supposed to remind yourself of your coming death so you can stop caring about things you can't change. This way you can put all your energy into the here-and-now. Alison is such a shallow thinker that she skips all the bullshit and goes straight to the here-and-now.

Maia is like a bishop that spent his entire life studying scripture to learn to withstand all temptations and negative thoughts to solely focus on helping others. Maia now encounters the village idiot who is too stupid to do anything but help others.

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>>136796640
>Maia now encounters the village idiot who is too stupid to do anything but help others.
RIGHT in front of a statue of Pree Aesma in her war form


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>>136795587
It's good because it shows that she wasn't polluted by Incubus' incorrect teachings - according to that failed Noodle Shop runner lady, that is. We still have to hear Incubus version of the story.
Meti is a different case from Allison - she didn't care about matters outside of herself and was unable to be disturbed by anything at all, including getting killed and fed to dogs, not unlike Diogenes. Her city lies in ruin and she cannot care less.
Allison cares. She doesn't care about "death" but she cares about people and stopping Jagg - her being an absolute idiot makes her the equal of Aesma, she gets through the trials which broke the Demiurges by being too dumb to be corrupted - she doesn't think much about death because she doesn't think much at all.

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>>136797401
>, not unlike Diogenes
please stop this disinfo. Diogenes spent all his life teaching people to be moralfags. Just not moralfags for society


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>>136795004 (OP)
>>136795020
>>136795064
Gentlewomen and gentlemen, I've had a realisation. I meant to post this a week ago, but the thread died, so here I am.
When Maya asks Alison what she thinks about death all the way back at the start of the comic, the latter, in confusion, asks her "you're human?". I've just realised that Maya interpreted this as a response to her question, rather than the way the reader would, since we have more knowledge about what's going on with Alison than Maya does.
Once you interpret the dialogue in this light, Maya's response makes more sense: "you're human" as a response to "what do you think about death" shows a certain levelheadedness that, in KSBD, is seen as something to strive towards. Maya thinks that Alison does not fear death at all and, impressed with her stoic response, gives her the KSBD equivalent of "based": "Reach heaven through violence".
Interestingly, we've now come full circle, with Alison having actually achieved that level of Stoic/absurdist/existentialist thinking.
>>136795344
>The weak swordsman strikes his enemy down and thinks his task done. He relishes in victory. He casts away his sword and returns to his lover. Little does he know his single cut will encircle the world five times and strike him down fifty-fold.
Come to think of it, this literally happened to Maya. Her past caught up with her little quiet existence and ruined not only her life, but that of her family as well.

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>>136799870
It's surprising how Abbadon has completely forgotten to do facial expressions.

Five panels of poorly drawn early allison completely defeat anything posted these recent years


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[User] How do you even read this comic and come away thinking any of the demiurges are happy. Like what the fuck.

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>>136804559
Mostly people being contrarians


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>>136795020
Liar.

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>>136806846
>as you understand it
... allison reaches amaranth, doesn't she


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>>136799870
It's surprising how Abbadon has completely forgotten to do facial expressions.

Five panels of poorly drawn early allison completely defeat anything posted these recent years

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>>136811007
This and the last update are full of great expressions from Maya, Incubus and Meti


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>>136811007
This and the last update are full of great expressions from Maya, Incubus and Meti

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>>136811117
merely moving your eyes and scowling doesn't make for good expressions
his obsession with mastering anatomy has made his style much, much less expressive. His exaggerated expressions, few as they are, feel forced af.


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>>136811117
merely moving your eyes and scowling doesn't make for good expressions
his obsession with mastering anatomy has made his style much, much less expressive. His exaggerated expressions, few as they are, feel forced af.

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>>136811198
>his obsession with mastering anatomy

Uh. He still fucking sucks at it though?