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>>136990487
Ever see that Simpsons episode "Homer's Enemy", where they introduced that guy Frank Grimes to commentate on how impossible it would be for a real person to live in Springfield? Through the whole episode, the guy is absolutely upset about how much of a buffoon Homer Simpson is and how he seems to gleefully skip through life without a care, getting to partake in such amazing life opportunities like winning a grammy or going into space.

The big issue is that Frank Grimes is right...only if you look at it in a total vacuum. Frank is only capable of judging that Homer got this amazing shit because he's never lived it. He sees that Homer owns a house with a wife and kids without knowing that Homer has repeatedly put off better life opportunities just for their sake. He sees Homer owned a grammy singing with the Be Sharps without knowing how much toil and sweat it took to get it. He sees Homer being looked upon well by his co-workers and screeching about it without considering these people have actually known Homer Simpson for years.

Yes, Ben Grimm's life is a lot more glamorous than hers at the present. But she doesn't have his life story. She doesn't know that he also grew up a poor kid on Yancy Street living with a deadbeat drunk dad, who watched his brother murdered by street gangs, and nearly fell into one until he was given a second chance. She doesn't know about the physical issues nor self-image problems he had to deal with due to his entire biology being rearranged. She doesn't recall that the dude outright puts his ass on the line every day to fight monsters that she would still cower from, even now, to earn the people's admiration.

Thing is, readers give a lot of leeway to protagonists like Ben Grim because we've seen that their lives aren't so glamorous as painted. Compared to a no-name introduced just to insult Ben by basically whining he's a normie, most people would rather stick to the guy who actually earned his respect with the readers.

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>>136990672
This anon gets it. Ben lived a tough life and then had his entire world changed and went through hell. She was born a monster and learned to be civil. He was a man and had his entire biology fucked up, he lived through a body horror she never had to adapt to. She's just an entitled fuck. I hate this victim mentality of 'I had it worse so you can't complain'. You can't measure everything in victim points to see who had it harder it's not comparable.


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>>136995128
Ben is a hero who's never used his Jew Power as an out.

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>>136995591
Is there a way to use Jew Power for good?


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>>136988936
Is it? Because when has Krakoa ever been held responsible for their actions or allowed to be shown as a negative? Ever since this Hickman stuff started it has felt like a rise setting up for a fall with no payoff

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>>136988961
>Is it?
yes. you are simply too autistic to realise the obvious fact that the characer is meant to come off as unlikeable


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>>136988892 (OP)
>jews
>white


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>>136990672
This anon gets it. Ben lived a tough life and then had his entire world changed and went through hell. She was born a monster and learned to be civil. He was a man and had his entire biology fucked up, he lived through a body horror she never had to adapt to. She's just an entitled fuck. I hate this victim mentality of 'I had it worse so you can't complain'. You can't measure everything in victim points to see who had it harder it's not comparable.

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>>136998158
>You can't measure everything in victim points to see who had it harder it's not comparable.
But you literally just tried to do that.


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>>136991007
Eh, I just felt like kvetching because I see people keep falling for bait pages like these due to forgetting the other half of the equation: That the people doing the complaining in these stories are supposed to be massively ignorant to what the protagonist has lived through, and on the rare occasion that they get a hint as to how much shit the main character's gone through they immediately shut their gob or take back their words because they understand better.

Like that one reporter chick from Immortal Hulk who everyone understandably got irate from because she claimed to the Hulk that men like Bruce Banner had "white privilege" and power she wishes she had...due to the fact she's never been inside the whirlwind of The Hulk's life, only catching photos and reporting it after the fact, and as a result under the completely false impression that a) Any of the Hulks see themselves as Banner, b) That the heroes treat The Hulk with kid gloves by sending him away when in fact they're enacting what they consider last resort plans due to the quiet admission they can't ever trust The Hulk to be around other people, and c) That the world has ever tried to understand the Hulk's boundless rage. The fact that Devil Hulk doesn't snip back at her makes it seem like he's in agreement, when it's clear that he's happy that someone finally admitted they're jealous of the Hulk's power instead of hiding it behind their fear of him. The minute she does get a taste of what the Hulk's world is like, though, she immediately regrets all the shittalk she gave to him, realizing that there's nothing envious about the Hulk's life or power when you're forced to endure it instead of watching it from afar.

I do admit that I'm slightly irked that most writers now making headline bait like this never give the protagonists a chance to really prove their cardboard detractors wrong, but then again, most modern comics are shit like that, so par for course.

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>>136991486
She eventually gets powers and they're horrifying


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>>136995128
Probably because Ben doesn't have a habit of throwing out the Jew card as a cheap excuse to gain sympathy like Kitty and Magneto.
>>136998158
>'I had it worse so you can't complain'.
That's the mutant "diplomatic" approach to other groups and individuals in a nutshell.
>Fuck your tears of suffering, mine matter more!


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>>136990672
This anon gets it. Ben lived a tough life and then had his entire world changed and went through hell. She was born a monster and learned to be civil. He was a man and had his entire biology fucked up, he lived through a body horror she never had to adapt to. She's just an entitled fuck. I hate this victim mentality of 'I had it worse so you can't complain'. You can't measure everything in victim points to see who had it harder it's not comparable.

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>>136995128
Probably because Ben doesn't have a habit of throwing out the Jew card as a cheap excuse to gain sympathy like Kitty and Magneto.
>>136998158
>'I had it worse so you can't complain'.
That's the mutant "diplomatic" approach to other groups and individuals in a nutshell.
>Fuck your tears of suffering, mine matter more!


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>>136990591
>You can apply that shit to all of the other mutants that had normal lives until they got their mutations activated, too. Shit, it applies for all of the mutants that look normal yet still have useful powers.
Yes, you absolutely can. Pic related. I've always thought the "model" mutants have it on easy mode compared to the freaks.

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>>136990763
I dunno. Having five dicks sounds like a nightmare too.


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>>136988892 (OP)
>duke nukem not reading.jpg


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>>136988908
Where's the actual lie though?
Ben Grimm didn't have to go through puberty made of rock. He didn't have to live in the sewers like a Morlock. Nobody's trying to stone (heh) him because of his looks. He got to go to school and have a pretty normal childhood and date and do all the normal human shit until his accident and even then he was framed as a tragic hero for it.
He was maybe ostracized for his appearance for all of a couple weeks before Reed's marketing campaign kicked in. His experience IS fundamentally different from a mutant's.
But I guess because this bitch said the no no buzzwords that's all irrelevant?

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>>136990487
>Where's the actual lie though?
There is none. She's right that Thing's "woe is me" schtick got old pretty fast when he became a famous super hero beloved by all with absolutely nobody insulting or fearing him.


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[User] Don't care, still love the everlovin blue eyed Thing, idol o' millions.

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>>136998324
Also a really great uncle.


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>>136988936
Is it? Because when has Krakoa ever been held responsible for their actions or allowed to be shown as a negative? Ever since this Hickman stuff started it has felt like a rise setting up for a fall with no payoff

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>>136988961
>allowed to be shown as a negative?
Well you just read a panel where he bitched about a rich Jew, so he's probably about to team up with Red Skull because that's exactly how that works in conics


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>>136990608
The oppression metaphor stops working when you're an immortal living in a post scarcity utopia who can get a new body on demand. It especially doesn't work when said utopia actively uses violence to maintain a pharmaceutical monopoly that they exploit for complete legal immunity for all mutants, actively engages in exploitative, corporate-controlled colonialism, and economically intereferes (when they're not actively engaging in military actions against repressed peoples) with galactic society for the benefit of a stagnant dictatorship headed by the child of what is the defacto ruler of their island.

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>>136993377
>The oppression metaphor stops working when you're an immortal living in a post scarcity utopia who can get a new body on demand
That's a relatively new take on the characters though. Most of us grew up reading the comics where the oppression metaphor was 100% spot on, at least a majority of the time (nothing's ever true 100% of the time when a shared universe is written by hundreds of different writers).

Or maybe I'm just an oldfag and the people currently reading comics grew up with a different experience than I did. House of M was released before a lot of the people on this board were even alive


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>>136988892 (OP)
Ben Grimm, cis white male colonizer

Does anyone at Marvel even know a fucking thing about Marvel anymore?


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>>136988892 (OP)
Ben Grimm, cis white male colonizer

Does anyone at Marvel even know a fucking thing about Marvel anymore?

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>>136999439
He had white skin so he’s white


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>>136988892 (OP)
Ben has also saved the Earth a few dozen times, kept it from being eaten by Galactus three times, Annihilus about 4 times, Terrax twice, Sphynx twice, Grandmaster once, Champion once, Thanos four times, Airwalker once, Aaron once, Ego at least 5 times, Dire Wraiths once, repelled Skrull, Kree, and Badoon invasions, and even helped bring this bitch back to life when the incursions erased her from existence.


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>>136998158
>You can't measure everything in victim points to see who had it harder it's not comparable.
But you literally just tried to do that.

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>>136998365
>But you literally just tried to do that.
Pointing out her technique and analyzing it isn't using it or advocating it. JFC you tards need to learn some media criticism. The point is the two lifestyles are equally traumatizing and if you only look at things from your point of view you're never going to learn empathy or sympathy you're just going to focus on how you yourself are a victim which is proven to be mentally detrimental and have physical repercussions on your body and health.

God damn. I know this is /co/ but I really gotta spell everything out for you huh? Should I use finger puppets or meme faces for you?


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>>136990487
Ever see that Simpsons episode "Homer's Enemy", where they introduced that guy Frank Grimes to commentate on how impossible it would be for a real person to live in Springfield? Through the whole episode, the guy is absolutely upset about how much of a buffoon Homer Simpson is and how he seems to gleefully skip through life without a care, getting to partake in such amazing life opportunities like winning a grammy or going into space.

The big issue is that Frank Grimes is right...only if you look at it in a total vacuum. Frank is only capable of judging that Homer got this amazing shit because he's never lived it. He sees that Homer owns a house with a wife and kids without knowing that Homer has repeatedly put off better life opportunities just for their sake. He sees Homer owned a grammy singing with the Be Sharps without knowing how much toil and sweat it took to get it. He sees Homer being looked upon well by his co-workers and screeching about it without considering these people have actually known Homer Simpson for years.

Yes, Ben Grimm's life is a lot more glamorous than hers at the present. But she doesn't have his life story. She doesn't know that he also grew up a poor kid on Yancy Street living with a deadbeat drunk dad, who watched his brother murdered by street gangs, and nearly fell into one until he was given a second chance. She doesn't know about the physical issues nor self-image problems he had to deal with due to his entire biology being rearranged. She doesn't recall that the dude outright puts his ass on the line every day to fight monsters that she would still cower from, even now, to earn the people's admiration.

Thing is, readers give a lot of leeway to protagonists like Ben Grim because we've seen that their lives aren't so glamorous as painted. Compared to a no-name introduced just to insult Ben by basically whining he's a normie, most people would rather stick to the guy who actually earned his respect with the readers.

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>>136990672
It also ignores that Ben was a fatherless little shit from Yancy Street, that joined the same gang that killed his brother, got his ass kicked almost daily from other gangs, teachers, his brother, and his Aunt Petunia, joined the army which finally was his actual ticket out of that hellish life....straight to WWII/Korean War/Vietnam/Gulf/Afghanistan War where he got his ass handed to him some more and THEN he got to join Reed as a test pilot.

And the only reason he cannot transform back into a human is because he got his shit pushed in so many times that his mind is fucking damaged to the point of always needing to be tough and indestructible 24/7 and cannot break through his subconscious programming that someone is going to fuck him up at any given moment so he needs to be powered up all the time no matter what.


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>>136988892 (OP)
Writer seems to not understand who or what Ben is, or how mutants work. Bitch would not have been rocky before she was 13.


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>>136998365
>But you literally just tried to do that.
Pointing out her technique and analyzing it isn't using it or advocating it. JFC you tards need to learn some media criticism. The point is the two lifestyles are equally traumatizing and if you only look at things from your point of view you're never going to learn empathy or sympathy you're just going to focus on how you yourself are a victim which is proven to be mentally detrimental and have physical repercussions on your body and health.

God damn. I know this is /co/ but I really gotta spell everything out for you huh? Should I use finger puppets or meme faces for you?

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>>136999605
"She's just an entitled fuck." is you making a value judgement. You overplayed your hand.


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>>136993377
>The oppression metaphor stops working when you're an immortal living in a post scarcity utopia who can get a new body on demand
That's a relatively new take on the characters though. Most of us grew up reading the comics where the oppression metaphor was 100% spot on, at least a majority of the time (nothing's ever true 100% of the time when a shared universe is written by hundreds of different writers).

Or maybe I'm just an oldfag and the people currently reading comics grew up with a different experience than I did. House of M was released before a lot of the people on this board were even alive

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>>136999346
Grew up watching the 90s X-men, can tell you that it was around the 00s that the X-men got a lot less humble and more bitter/cynicism about their relationship with humanity. Plenty were outright calling humans “flatsscans” behind their backs, which was the kind of shit Magneto or his Acolytes would be doing. It took. Lot of getting used to, considering no other media went in that direction for them. In a way, the current day characterization is kind of just the logical end result of writers being too happy to wallow in making the X-men miserable and so focused on their own survival until they want to pretend they’re not mere humans as a coping mechanism for why the universe just seems to shitnin them so much,


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>>136988936
Why is there often such dissonance between the content of comics, and the ultimate intended message of a story with modern writers?

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>>136988990
A perceived idea of telling people they are powerful rather than actually showing it.
Some writers have their head up their ass because they think their dialogue is more engaging than the action themselves. So presenting random character making the a big name character look stupid is "powerful" to them when it's just another shit in the pile of egos.


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>>136998324
Also a really great uncle.

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>>136999288
>Also a really great uncle.
Uncle Bens are always the best.


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>>136999605
"She's just an entitled fuck." is you making a value judgement. You overplayed your hand.

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>>136999659
>is you making a value judgement.
Would be less butthurt if I said she's ACTING like an entitled fuck? Because the point stands even if you don't like the wording. And overplayed what hand? I'm making a point not playing a fucking game, why is everything a contest with you smoothbrains. Are so you afraid someone is gonna 'one up' you because they don't agree with you? I'm not arguing to score points on you, you combinative fuck. Jesus you're insecure.


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>>136993377
>The oppression metaphor stops working when you're an immortal living in a post scarcity utopia who can get a new body on demand
That's a relatively new take on the characters though. Most of us grew up reading the comics where the oppression metaphor was 100% spot on, at least a majority of the time (nothing's ever true 100% of the time when a shared universe is written by hundreds of different writers).

Or maybe I'm just an oldfag and the people currently reading comics grew up with a different experience than I did. House of M was released before a lot of the people on this board were even alive

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>>136999346
Hence why I said "stopped working." But even going into the context of X-Men history makes everything ring hollow. Most current mutants were mutated by the Phoenix at the end of AvX and were baseline human prior to that. On this specific point her background is canonically impossible without a resurrection or depowering and repowering she failed to mention, and on a wider scale most mutants don't have the classic mutant background anymore. Granted this is a long running issue with X-Men since AvX, the majority of mutants shouldn't have the beliefs they espouse because their context is completely different.


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>>136988892 (OP)
Writer seems to not understand who or what Ben is, or how mutants work. Bitch would not have been rocky before she was 13.

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>>136999641
Weren't there mutants at birth like night crawler?
Also it's common to hire writers who don't do research. And they wanna go on strike.


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>>136988892 (OP)
Femoid self insert.


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>>136990591
>You can apply that shit to all of the other mutants that had normal lives until they got their mutations activated, too. Shit, it applies for all of the mutants that look normal yet still have useful powers.
Yes, you absolutely can. Pic related. I've always thought the "model" mutants have it on easy mode compared to the freaks.

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>>136990763
Nowadays having chainsaw hands would make you popular with the weebs


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>>136988892 (OP)
>cis white male
But he is not? He’s a jew, the highest in the victim hood ladder


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>>136989006
That didn’t answer my question, you just threw a strawman up and pretended I was Shitposting. Where does the comic show she was wrong? What’s not in OP’s pic is the other mutant supporting her

I’m legitimately asking you to correct me and instead you resort to those types of arguments

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>>136989017
The out of context panel is clearly from the Steve Skroce Thing book Clobberin' Time. Krakoa doesn't matter to that book because the book isn't about Krakoa, it's about the Thing. Therefore your post bringing up Krakoa also does not matter. Also you're an idiot.


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>>136995128
Enh. If a stormfag came in and started talking shit about Kirby or B. Kriegstein, he'd be promptly shat on.


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>>136988908
Where's the actual lie though?
Ben Grimm didn't have to go through puberty made of rock. He didn't have to live in the sewers like a Morlock. Nobody's trying to stone (heh) him because of his looks. He got to go to school and have a pretty normal childhood and date and do all the normal human shit until his accident and even then he was framed as a tragic hero for it.
He was maybe ostracized for his appearance for all of a couple weeks before Reed's marketing campaign kicked in. His experience IS fundamentally different from a mutant's.
But I guess because this bitch said the no no buzzwords that's all irrelevant?

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>>136990487
It's arguably much, MUCH worse that Ben Grimm became the Thing after having experienced normal life. The shock inherent to a change on this level is psychologically shattering to basically all humans. The level of mental toughness you have to have in order to get through that and not kill yourself is tremendous. Does it suck that no-name blue rock girl in the op panel had to grow up a freak? Sure. Was it anywhere near the level of adversity and challenge Ben had to deal with being changed? Nope. Compare someone who was born blind and someone who lost their sight in their adult years. The difference is exponential.

She's just extolling her own victimhood, as is the optimal strategy for basically everyone in real life modern society. We lionize our victims. It was something we started doing with good intentions, but ultimately it created perverse incentives, and now people WANT to be victims so they can feel powerful. It's a problem.


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>>136988892 (OP)
Isn't The Thing Jewish?

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>>136988922
Oh right, because that’s exactly the same as being thrown in a dumpster as a baby.


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>>136989325
How was she born that way anyway? I thought mutant powers manifested at puberty.

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>>136989375
Not always. Kurt was born looking that way, for example.


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This analog just doesn't work because the bigotry the X-Men face isn't really written to be believable, it's written to last forever. There needs to be perpetual animosity between mutants and their villains so they can keep making books because that is the only way for Marvel to exist. Their stories can't end. It's the same reason why Spider-Man and MJ aren't allowed to be together- when they feel that the X-Men are growing adequately stale they WILL destroy Krakoa, and it won't be because humanity is simply that intolerant and the story was leading up to it all along, it'll be because Marvel needs shock money and a shake-up.

And that's just par for the course. It wouldn't annoy me the way it does if I hadn't seen X-Men fans saying shit like "minorities should have safe spaces!" Like a fucking ethnostate is equivalent to any other community. Marvel has a book that inadvertently or otherwise advocates for the white supremacist talking point that we can only co-exist if we're kept apart and a lot of their fans are not only acting like it's based but treating it as though it's an applicable real world allegory.

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>>137003279
>old messaging from X-Men
Segregation bad! Integration good! Despite our outward appearances and quirks, we're all the same underneath!
>new messaging from X-Men
Integration bad! Segregation good! Genetic supremacism should be encouraged!


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>>136988922
Oh right, because that’s exactly the same as being thrown in a dumpster as a baby.

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>>137003385
no one said it was, the mutant called him a "cis white man" but I thought jewish people weren't considered white due to how they have a long history of oppression.


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This analog just doesn't work because the bigotry the X-Men face isn't really written to be believable, it's written to last forever. There needs to be perpetual animosity between mutants and their villains so they can keep making books because that is the only way for Marvel to exist. Their stories can't end. It's the same reason why Spider-Man and MJ aren't allowed to be together- when they feel that the X-Men are growing adequately stale they WILL destroy Krakoa, and it won't be because humanity is simply that intolerant and the story was leading up to it all along, it'll be because Marvel needs shock money and a shake-up.

And that's just par for the course. It wouldn't annoy me the way it does if I hadn't seen X-Men fans saying shit like "minorities should have safe spaces!" Like a fucking ethnostate is equivalent to any other community. Marvel has a book that inadvertently or otherwise advocates for the white supremacist talking point that we can only co-exist if we're kept apart and a lot of their fans are not only acting like it's based but treating it as though it's an applicable real world allegory.

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>>137003279
What you're describing is literally the cancer that has been growing on western comics brands for the past 50 years, and why they've been dying for half that long. When your brand must continue in perpetuity, you are definitionally prohibited from writing stories that have stakes.

Stakes are what make stories worth reading; especially stories about fights, which is 99% of what DC and Marvel write. No stakes means your stories are meaningless. Stakes can only be had when a story is expected to end. It's why Demon Slayer, One Piece, and any number of other popular manga are so popular. When they end/ended, what happened will not be reset. It's written in stone. Those are stakes.


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>>137003385
no one said it was, the mutant called him a "cis white man" but I thought jewish people weren't considered white due to how they have a long history of oppression.

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>>137003436
false equivalence, no jew has ever suffered as much as a mutant


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>>136990487
4chan gets assblasted about mutants, because getting ostractised by the normies for being objectively better and cooler than everyone else tends to be mary sue woe is me shit. but being born a pile of rocks and dumped in the garbage actually is an appropriate use of the oppression metaphor.

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>>136990608
>but being born a pile of rocks and dumped in the garbage actually is an appropriate use of the oppression metaphor.
Not really. If you dumped baby Ben in the garbage he would've just died. Whatever makes that thing look like a rock also let them survive a situation no regular human would. And without a society to compare to how do they even know how old they were or have opinions about any of that? Wild animals don't go around wallowing in their own "misery" of being wild animals. The dumb rock's backstory and logic don't align, it only aligns if they've become so immensely opulent and spoiled that they now view the world in this way, which undercuts the entire rant to begin with.


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>>137003436
false equivalence, no jew has ever suffered as much as a mutant

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>>137003453
exactly, Jews are the most privileged group in the US


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>>137003279
What you're describing is literally the cancer that has been growing on western comics brands for the past 50 years, and why they've been dying for half that long. When your brand must continue in perpetuity, you are definitionally prohibited from writing stories that have stakes.

Stakes are what make stories worth reading; especially stories about fights, which is 99% of what DC and Marvel write. No stakes means your stories are meaningless. Stakes can only be had when a story is expected to end. It's why Demon Slayer, One Piece, and any number of other popular manga are so popular. When they end/ended, what happened will not be reset. It's written in stone. Those are stakes.

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>>137003444
I don't think characters that exist at a single moment in time are inherently bad. You can tell fun and interesting adventures if you have a character premise. that's just fun to write around. Batman. Lupin the 3rd. Sherlock Holmes. Even still though, often the compelling parts are that they can surround themselves with less permanent characters who can potentially suffer.

It's just that in particular, The X-Men is an ongoing story about racism and class struggle that's not allowed to change and I just don't think that works. As far as I'm aware there hasn't been a story where the X-Men have moved beyond lynch mobs to gunning chiefly for social acceptance or against systemic problems. Sure, it makes sense that as the victims of repeated giant robot genocides in the modern day with no end in sight that the X-Men would no longer be willing to tolerate humanity, but that also makes it an esoteric and poor allegory for the current day.


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>>137003436
false equivalence, no jew has ever suffered as much as a mutant

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>>137003453
Doesn't matter, people who make suffering into a game of "who suffered more" care more about their own ego than any actual suffering they went through. I am sure there could also be a mutant who was left in a dumpster as a baby who is also a triple paraplegic with down syndrome. But that doesn't mean the mutant in OP's suffering doesn't amount to anything just because someone suffers more than them.


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>>136999605
"She's just an entitled fuck." is you making a value judgement. You overplayed your hand.

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>>136999659
What part of that is assigning points to anything? How does that compare to... what exactly to make your "point" valid? Her being an entitled fuck is a flat statement and not a comparison of anything else.


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>>137003444
I don't think characters that exist at a single moment in time are inherently bad. You can tell fun and interesting adventures if you have a character premise. that's just fun to write around. Batman. Lupin the 3rd. Sherlock Holmes. Even still though, often the compelling parts are that they can surround themselves with less permanent characters who can potentially suffer.

It's just that in particular, The X-Men is an ongoing story about racism and class struggle that's not allowed to change and I just don't think that works. As far as I'm aware there hasn't been a story where the X-Men have moved beyond lynch mobs to gunning chiefly for social acceptance or against systemic problems. Sure, it makes sense that as the victims of repeated giant robot genocides in the modern day with no end in sight that the X-Men would no longer be willing to tolerate humanity, but that also makes it an esoteric and poor allegory for the current day.

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>>137003544
>Sure, it makes sense that as the victims of repeated giant robot genocides in the modern day with no end in sight that the X-Men would no longer be willing to tolerate humanity
Historically, the vast majority of their problems were other mutants, or problems caused by other mutants.


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Eh, fuggit, I'll post it myself.

This is one of the other mutants that are trying to tear down Ben for his words, btw, in case you had any doubts if we're supposed to side with these multi-assholed jerks

>>136989325
She lives on mutant sex island where she can be revived from death into a new perfect body, 3d print anything she wants, and fuck as much as she wants before dumping any kids in the bushes

She and the other mutants live a life of supreme luxury even compared to the everloving Thing

>>136989465
It's ironically too modern culture warrior for a mutant to spit out, especially when they repeatedly both take the position that they're an oppressed minority by the "flatscans" while simultaneously talking shit about how they're genetically superior and going to outbreed humanity in the near future.

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>>136989518
>She and the other mutants live a life of supreme luxury even compared to the everloving Thing

While under constant threat of being a victim of genocide due to Orchis, etc. for the crime of having been born with an X-gene.

And let’s not fucking pretend Thing isn’t also living in a life of luxury.


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>>136991486
She eventually gets powers and they're horrifying

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>>136998548
What are they?


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[User] >>137003618

[Assistant] >>137003627


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[User] This reminds me, where's that panel where Wolverine basically said to She-Hulk that she has the benefit of being on a team like the Avengers where they're treated like celebrities, and that Krakoa is the best thing to happen to mutants? I thought it was funny on both ends of how much of a Krakoa simp he is, while at the same time trying to come off as the critical of it to make it seem like he's totally not like the others, and that Wolverine of all fucking characters had the nerve to get on She-Hulk for being on a team of "celebrities" when he was on it, too, and for an even worse reason, Tony thought that they needed a killer on the team.

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>>136990349
Wolverine had a valid point.


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>>137003453
Doesn't matter, people who make suffering into a game of "who suffered more" care more about their own ego than any actual suffering they went through. I am sure there could also be a mutant who was left in a dumpster as a baby who is also a triple paraplegic with down syndrome. But that doesn't mean the mutant in OP's suffering doesn't amount to anything just because someone suffers more than them.

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>>137003575
>But that doesn't mean the mutant in OP's suffering doesn't amount to anything just because someone suffers more than them.
But that's exactly the rules the mutant in OP play by? That's their entire logic behind why Ben needs to fuck off, because their pain is worse and his is meaningless.


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>>136989593
Feels like most of these writers really want to have their cake and eat it to. They want to use their books to explore how they want the world to be while simultaneously holding it up as a mirror to our reality for "commentary". It makes the kind of reality where characters will comment on someone else's "privilege" while ignoring they're a seven foot tall half-a-ton rock dude who originally couldn't move through doors or go out in public without the police outright shooting on him. It makes them look severely disconnected from their own reality, like watching someone throw a fit about mean twitter comments while Galactus is on a rampage right behind them.

>>136990349
The worse part is that he was trying to frame it as people being jealous of mutants for having a place where they aren't persecuted for being different...while talking to She-Hulk, someone who still routinely unnerves people by how big tall and green she is compared to them, especially during her "Jason Aaron made me the Hulk-lite" phase.

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>>136990470
>while talking to She-Hulk, someone who still routinely unnerves people by how big tall and green she is compared to them

Except majority of the stories don’t treat her appearance as “OMG SHE’S A FREAK!” Quite the opposite, usually it’s depicted something that empowers Jen.


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>>136988892 (OP)
>people shouldn't have a better life than me


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>>136988892 (OP)
>people shouldn't have a better life than me

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>>137003665
Welcome to the modern Left.


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[User] The irony is that this thread marks the first time I've actually seen multiple anons *defend* a jew.

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>>136995128
Ben is one of the good ones


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>>137003575
>But that doesn't mean the mutant in OP's suffering doesn't amount to anything just because someone suffers more than them.
But that's exactly the rules the mutant in OP play by? That's their entire logic behind why Ben needs to fuck off, because their pain is worse and his is meaningless.

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>>137003656
Yeah and that's wrong. Ben's pain isn't meaningless and brushing off the suffering of others because you perceive yourself to have "suffered more" is just a sign of an inflated ego. Even people who suffer can be shitty people like that.


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>>136990349
Wolverine had a valid point.

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>>137003644
The Avengers and Fantastic Four are only treated as "celebrities" because they're figures that have to be held accountable by the government and the public, and they have to have good PR for that. Wolverine sure as hell wasn't complaining when he was on the team, he sure didn't have an issue shoehorning himself anywhere else to be in the public eye either, or catching shit for being a mutie, so what's he whining about?


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>>136990470
>Wolverine
Grrr. Quiet Council think they can tell me what to do. Grr. Beast is doing unscrupulous things that get a lot of people killed, despite me also doing unscrupulous things that get a lot of people killed. Grr. Humans doing stupid human things messing up the world despite mutants unleashing horrors and upsetting the balance of existence.
>Also Wolverine
YOU JUST HATE US BECAUSE YOU AIN'T US. DISREGARD THE FACT THAT I AM BASICALLY A CELEBRITY MYSELF AND BEEN ON EVERY FUCKING TEAM EVER.

I get that being a massive hypocrite is basically a character trait for him, but fuck this bastard, seriously.
>>136990487
You can apply that shit to all of the other mutants that had normal lives until they got their mutations activated, too. Shit, it applies for all of the mutants that look normal yet still have useful powers.

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>>136990591
>DISREGARD THE FACT THAT I AM BASICALLY A CELEBRITY MYSELF AND BEEN ON EVERY FUCKING TEAM EVER.

Yet he still is persecuted simply for having an X-gene and his celebrity was never more than posing with his mask on during press conferences. His own son even impersonated him during Dark Reign.


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>>137003436
false equivalence, no jew has ever suffered as much as a mutant

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>>137003453
Then we don't need a Holocaust Rememberance Day and Steve Orlando, Brian Michael Bendis, Chris Claremont, and Yehudi Mercado can stop kvetching their kippahs off in their Shoah Stories both IRL & in comics.


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[User] Is it just cause white male writers genuinely don't know what the "CIS" part of "CIS white male" means or are they implying she's trans?

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>>136990649
The use of cis in this context is entirely appropriate.


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[User] The irony is that this thread marks the first time I've actually seen multiple anons *defend* a jew.

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>>136995128
Because nobody here reads comics and knows he’s a Jew.


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>>136995128
Enh. If a stormfag came in and started talking shit about Kirby or B. Kriegstein, he'd be promptly shat on.

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>>137002892
>Enh. If a stormfag came in and started talking shit about Kirby or B. Kriegstein, he'd be promptly shat on.
You don't remember that middle period of "comicsgate" where people were insisting that one youtuber guy could beat up Kirby.


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>>136990591
>DISREGARD THE FACT THAT I AM BASICALLY A CELEBRITY MYSELF AND BEEN ON EVERY FUCKING TEAM EVER.

Yet he still is persecuted simply for having an X-gene and his celebrity was never more than posing with his mask on during press conferences. His own son even impersonated him during Dark Reign.

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>>137004045
>persecuted
When? He has no trouble getting around anywhere, constantly hounded by Sentinels or the like. He's gotten more shit from those involved in dirty black ops and weeb shit than anti-mutant organizations and operators.
>his celebrity was never more than posing with his mask on during press conferences
Like most other figures during a press conference? That doesn't change the fact that he's a massive hypocrite decrying She-Hulk's position in the Avengers as a celebrity despite the fact that he was essentially the same thing. He was even doing shady, unathorized, kill squad shit while he was on the Avengers on top of it and not telling the others. See >>136996143
>His own son even impersonated him during Dark Reign.
Like the common citizen could tell the difference:
>Hey, I heard that guy in the Birdman mask is going around fucking and stabbing people, and not necessarily in that order, again.
>Yeah, sounds like Wolverine alright.
That's like bringing up that Lester was impersonating Clint, too. So what?


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>>136994623
>>136990470
Dude, Wolverine is the most "have your cake and eat it, too" character in Marvel.

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>>137004045
>persecuted
When? He has no trouble getting around anywhere, constantly hounded by Sentinels or the like. He's gotten more shit from those involved in dirty black ops and weeb shit than anti-mutant organizations and operators.
>his celebrity was never more than posing with his mask on during press conferences
Like most other figures during a press conference? That doesn't change the fact that he's a massive hypocrite decrying She-Hulk's position in the Avengers as a celebrity despite the fact that he was essentially the same thing. He was even doing shady, unathorized, kill squad shit while he was on the Avengers on top of it and not telling the others. See >>136996143
>His own son even impersonated him during Dark Reign.
Like the common citizen could tell the difference:
>Hey, I heard that guy in the Birdman mask is going around fucking and stabbing people, and not necessarily in that order, again.
>Yeah, sounds like Wolverine alright.
That's like bringing up that Lester was impersonating Clint, too. So what?


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>>136991105
Eh, Ben's the only one who really came off worse in the exchange. Johnny and Sue can turn their powers on and off. I really, really doubt they resent Reed, and they could have just lived normal lives if they wanted

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>>136996047
There's an Elseworlds fic that explores "what if the FF all got the same power set", and that's basically what happens in some of them. Lemme do my research...

Okay, so:
>All Things Universe
Absolute shit ending, as you'd expect. Sue loses her sapience, Reed isn't much better, so they all flee to Monster Island and stay there.
>All Human Torches Universe
A stray spark during a battle with the Miracle Man results in a fire that kills a little girl; the team quit superheroing as a result, with Sue becoming a nun, Reed throwing himself into his lab work, and Johnny focusing on exploiting his fire immunity to become a professional racecar driver—only Ben Grimm eventually resumes the mantle of the Human Torch and joins the Avengers.
>All Mr. Fantastics Universe
 Ben and Sue find their powers "ugly" and "stupid" and so they refuse to become superheroes; instead, they pursue a normal life together and get married, causing Reed to become a bitter recluse who stays in his lab—only Johnny gets a happy ending, using his powers to become a wealthy and much-admired entertainer.
>All Invisible People Universe
They all join SHIELD and work for Nick Fury.


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There's also an aspect of this that I think we're kind of ignoring but Ben did actually choose to go into space with Reed. He didn't ask to get doused in cosmic radiation, no, but his choices put him in that situation.
Mutants don't get a choice. They're just born that way. I don't know if that's necessarily worse or better but it's definitely something worth considering.

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>>137004291
>born
A lot of the current gen mutants were non-mutants forced to become one. They had as much choice as Ben doing a space expedition that got him fucked up by cosmic shit, too.


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>>137004291
>born
A lot of the current gen mutants were non-mutants forced to become one. They had as much choice as Ben doing a space expedition that got him fucked up by cosmic shit, too.

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>>137004366
>A lot of the current gen mutants were non-mutants forced to become one
How does that work? Inhumans bullshit?


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>>136988892 (OP)
Didn't the mutants present their powers during puberty?

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>>136996094
only generally. not all


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>>137004366
>A lot of the current gen mutants were non-mutants forced to become one
How does that work? Inhumans bullshit?

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>>137004376
Despite how many X-men fans and writers never let Decimation go, they forget that the majority of current day mutants that actually have their powers were either one of the 198 that Decimation missed (aka someone named), or had their X-gene forcibly activated by the Phoenix Force during the events of Avengers vs X-men. Hence, either the stone girl in the opening image was somehow one of the 198 and yet never identified by a single person, or they were only a mutant for a relatively short time due to how recent AvX would have been in-universe.


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>>136990649
The use of cis in this context is entirely appropriate.

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>>137004126
/co/-mblr is worse than ever I see


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>>136988936
Everytime one of you faggots has claimed this, it always turns out that OP was right on the money and the "Context" validates his critique of the low effort trash he's mocking.
I'm well past done trying to look at if for the perspective of you retards. This comic is utter garbage and you are garbage for defending it.

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>>136997641
This
How can you look at this fucking dialogue and stiff art and think its defensible


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>>137004366
>A lot of the current gen mutants were non-mutants forced to become one
How does that work? Inhumans bullshit?

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>>137004376
Worse, Phoenix bullshit bruteforced their X genes into activating. So a bunch of people who were living a relatively normal life were turned into a fish or a cum golem.

But hey, at least it wasn't Terrigenesis, so it's fine, nothing to see here.


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>>137004045
>persecuted
When? He has no trouble getting around anywhere, constantly hounded by Sentinels or the like. He's gotten more shit from those involved in dirty black ops and weeb shit than anti-mutant organizations and operators.
>his celebrity was never more than posing with his mask on during press conferences
Like most other figures during a press conference? That doesn't change the fact that he's a massive hypocrite decrying She-Hulk's position in the Avengers as a celebrity despite the fact that he was essentially the same thing. He was even doing shady, unathorized, kill squad shit while he was on the Avengers on top of it and not telling the others. See >>136996143
>His own son even impersonated him during Dark Reign.
Like the common citizen could tell the difference:
>Hey, I heard that guy in the Birdman mask is going around fucking and stabbing people, and not necessarily in that order, again.
>Yeah, sounds like Wolverine alright.
That's like bringing up that Lester was impersonating Clint, too. So what?

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>>137004244
>When?

All the time when he’s dealing with people who want to eradicate all of mutantkind.

And Wolverine isn’t being a hypocrite. He’s pointing out how Krakoa is a place where mutants get to be normal and live (relatively speaking) free of being discriminated and hated because of who they are. Jennifer doesn’t have to deal with any of that and instead has been perceived and treated as a gorgeous celebrity on a superhero team for most of her gamma radiated existence. Wolverine was never given a pass from Sentinels or bigots for being a mutant when he was an Avenger, but Jennifer never really had to deal with the prejudice Bruce is.


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>>137004244
>When?

All the time when he’s dealing with people who want to eradicate all of mutantkind.

And Wolverine isn’t being a hypocrite. He’s pointing out how Krakoa is a place where mutants get to be normal and live (relatively speaking) free of being discriminated and hated because of who they are. Jennifer doesn’t have to deal with any of that and instead has been perceived and treated as a gorgeous celebrity on a superhero team for most of her gamma radiated existence. Wolverine was never given a pass from Sentinels or bigots for being a mutant when he was an Avenger, but Jennifer never really had to deal with the prejudice Bruce is.

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>>137004540
Jennifer's definitely lost a job at least once due to being She-Hulk, it's just that "fun superhero adventure" is the tone of her books. People hate it when she goes grim.


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>>136988892 (OP)
You might not like it, but this is peak writing performance.


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>>136988936
Everytime one of you faggots has claimed this, it always turns out that OP was right on the money and the "Context" validates his critique of the low effort trash he's mocking.
I'm well past done trying to look at if for the perspective of you retards. This comic is utter garbage and you are garbage for defending it.

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>>136997641
>>137004471
Ben literally calls them out for it until the earpiece told him to say something else to avoid a PR disaster
They're the same kind of irate imbeciles described here


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>>136997641
This
How can you look at this fucking dialogue and stiff art and think its defensible

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>>136997641
>>137004471
Ben literally calls them out for it until the earpiece told him to say something else to avoid a PR disaster
They're the same kind of irate imbeciles described here


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>>136988892 (OP)
You might not like it, but this is peak writing performance.

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>>137004599
You were literally given context to how the scene was followed up in the thread you made and you still play into ragebait


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>>136988892 (OP)
Writer seems to not understand who or what Ben is, or how mutants work. Bitch would not have been rocky before she was 13.

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>>136999641
Wasn't Beast born with abnormally large hands and feet?


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>>137004599
You were literally given context to how the scene was followed up in the thread you made and you still play into ragebait

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>>137004613
The context doesn't justify it. If anything, it plays out like Benn is just blathering empty platitudes and the ugly fat rock mutie is actually a genius who was totally in the right.

But even if she has meant to be wrong, it wouldn't make up for the godawful, cringeworthy dialogue that sounds nothing like how humans talk.


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>>137004613
The context doesn't justify it. If anything, it plays out like Benn is just blathering empty platitudes and the ugly fat rock mutie is actually a genius who was totally in the right.

But even if she has meant to be wrong, it wouldn't make up for the godawful, cringeworthy dialogue that sounds nothing like how humans talk.

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>>137004619
>godawful, cringeworthy dialogue that sounds nothing like how humans talk
You and I wish
Trust me, those people exist (mostly in college campuses) and they are the worst
Which is what the scene was trying to get across


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>>137004619
>godawful, cringeworthy dialogue that sounds nothing like how humans talk
You and I wish
Trust me, those people exist (mostly in college campuses) and they are the worst
Which is what the scene was trying to get across

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>>137004629
They aren't this articulate and can't get out that many words. This shit reads like Twitter.

I don't know if it was meant to be satire or a "yass queen" moment, but either way, it reads like Chris Chan writing.


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>>137004613
The context doesn't justify it. If anything, it plays out like Benn is just blathering empty platitudes and the ugly fat rock mutie is actually a genius who was totally in the right.

But even if she has meant to be wrong, it wouldn't make up for the godawful, cringeworthy dialogue that sounds nothing like how humans talk.

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>>137004619
>Benn is just blathering empty platitudes and the ugly fat rock mutie is actually a genius who was totally in the right.
It's more that you don't waste your time in unproductive shouting matches and be the better person for not engaging in one


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>>137004629
They aren't this articulate and can't get out that many words. This shit reads like Twitter.

I don't know if it was meant to be satire or a "yass queen" moment, but either way, it reads like Chris Chan writing.

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>>137004640
>They aren't this articulate and can't get out that many words
Mainly because in most situations where its seen it becomes a shit show by then which is what Ben avoided


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[User] Wait isn't that Bling? Weren't her parents famous rappers?

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>>136989044
Being is full of shit as usual. Like typical mutants with their victim complex and gaslighting.


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>>137004244
>When?

All the time when he’s dealing with people who want to eradicate all of mutantkind.

And Wolverine isn’t being a hypocrite. He’s pointing out how Krakoa is a place where mutants get to be normal and live (relatively speaking) free of being discriminated and hated because of who they are. Jennifer doesn’t have to deal with any of that and instead has been perceived and treated as a gorgeous celebrity on a superhero team for most of her gamma radiated existence. Wolverine was never given a pass from Sentinels or bigots for being a mutant when he was an Avenger, but Jennifer never really had to deal with the prejudice Bruce is.

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>>137004540
>All the time when he’s dealing with people who want to eradicate all of mutantkind.
Who are a drop in the bucket compared to the people he's schmoozing around with on Krakoa that have historically done more damage to mutants than any one single non-mutant organization or entity.
>And Wolverine isn’t being a hypocrite.
He's the ur-example of a hypocrite in Marvel, he's notorious for it. Saying Wolverine isn't a hypocrite would be completely out of character. He's being a hypocrite talking to Jen about being a celebrity on a team that himself was basically a celebrity on.
>He’s pointing out how Krakoa is a place where mutants get to be normal and live (relatively speaking) free of being discriminated and hated because of who they are.
Like in the other places on the planet where they aren't getting lynch-mobbed or harassed? The primary reason why mutants are feared in the first place is because of Magneto, but Wolverine is totally cool with that guy now, and has been for decades. He's also being called out as a hypocrite because he's talking like humans have been the primary problem for mutants rather than mutants making their retarded beefs with each other spill over to the rest of society and scaring the fuck out of everybody, and not wanting to be accountable for it. If regular humans lay hate on Wolverine now, they'd have good reason to, he's in the same fucking group picture as guys like Magneto and Mystique now.


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>>136988892 (OP)
white man... bad...


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>>137004540
>All the time when he’s dealing with people who want to eradicate all of mutantkind.
Who are a drop in the bucket compared to the people he's schmoozing around with on Krakoa that have historically done more damage to mutants than any one single non-mutant organization or entity.
>And Wolverine isn’t being a hypocrite.
He's the ur-example of a hypocrite in Marvel, he's notorious for it. Saying Wolverine isn't a hypocrite would be completely out of character. He's being a hypocrite talking to Jen about being a celebrity on a team that himself was basically a celebrity on.
>He’s pointing out how Krakoa is a place where mutants get to be normal and live (relatively speaking) free of being discriminated and hated because of who they are.
Like in the other places on the planet where they aren't getting lynch-mobbed or harassed? The primary reason why mutants are feared in the first place is because of Magneto, but Wolverine is totally cool with that guy now, and has been for decades. He's also being called out as a hypocrite because he's talking like humans have been the primary problem for mutants rather than mutants making their retarded beefs with each other spill over to the rest of society and scaring the fuck out of everybody, and not wanting to be accountable for it. If regular humans lay hate on Wolverine now, they'd have good reason to, he's in the same fucking group picture as guys like Magneto and Mystique now.

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>>137004703
>He's being a hypocrite talking to Jen about being a celebrity on a team that himself was basically a celebrity on.

Except he isn’t because being an Avenger didn’t change his life as a mutant one bit for the better. He was still being targeted and attacked for being a mutant.

>Like in the other places on the planet where they aren't getting lynch-mobbed or harassed?

They’re discriminated and oppressed everywhere. And one bad mutant doesn’t justify wanting to violently eradicate every mutant from the planet, which is something numerous anti-mutant groups and organisations have tried to accomplish.

>abloo bloo bloo what about magneto

Give me a break. Look at how much bad shit Avengers roster members are involved with but it doesn’t sully their reputation for long.


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>>137004640
>They aren't this articulate and can't get out that many words
Mainly because in most situations where its seen it becomes a shit show by then which is what Ben avoided

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>>137004674
I've seen videos of Jordan Peterson "owning" collage students who talk similar to this, and even at their best, they aren't this articulate. There's a reason they have a reputation as shrill, shrieking nutcases. When they think they're making a good point they have smug, self-satisfied smirks and sprinkle in passive-aggressive, backhanded "owns."


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>>137004291
>born
A lot of the current gen mutants were non-mutants forced to become one. They had as much choice as Ben doing a space expedition that got him fucked up by cosmic shit, too.

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>>137004366
That's still a lack of agency though.


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>>137004376
Despite how many X-men fans and writers never let Decimation go, they forget that the majority of current day mutants that actually have their powers were either one of the 198 that Decimation missed (aka someone named), or had their X-gene forcibly activated by the Phoenix Force during the events of Avengers vs X-men. Hence, either the stone girl in the opening image was somehow one of the 198 and yet never identified by a single person, or they were only a mutant for a relatively short time due to how recent AvX would have been in-universe.

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>>137004421
Which is hilarious because she made up the lie of being a mutant to rationalize being dump in the trash as a baby.


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>>137004703
>He's being a hypocrite talking to Jen about being a celebrity on a team that himself was basically a celebrity on.

Except he isn’t because being an Avenger didn’t change his life as a mutant one bit for the better. He was still being targeted and attacked for being a mutant.

>Like in the other places on the planet where they aren't getting lynch-mobbed or harassed?

They’re discriminated and oppressed everywhere. And one bad mutant doesn’t justify wanting to violently eradicate every mutant from the planet, which is something numerous anti-mutant groups and organisations have tried to accomplish.

>abloo bloo bloo what about magneto

Give me a break. Look at how much bad shit Avengers roster members are involved with but it doesn’t sully their reputation for long.

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>>137004742
because the writing of marvel sucks and the x-men fsil as an oppression allegory because of ot


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>>137004703
>He's being a hypocrite talking to Jen about being a celebrity on a team that himself was basically a celebrity on.

Except he isn’t because being an Avenger didn’t change his life as a mutant one bit for the better. He was still being targeted and attacked for being a mutant.

>Like in the other places on the planet where they aren't getting lynch-mobbed or harassed?

They’re discriminated and oppressed everywhere. And one bad mutant doesn’t justify wanting to violently eradicate every mutant from the planet, which is something numerous anti-mutant groups and organisations have tried to accomplish.

>abloo bloo bloo what about magneto

Give me a break. Look at how much bad shit Avengers roster members are involved with but it doesn’t sully their reputation for long.

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>>137004742
>Except he isn’t because being an Avenger didn’t change his life as a mutant one bit for the better. He was still being targeted and attacked for being a mutant.
Pietro and Wanda had a relatively spotless experience while on the Avengers. They caught shit because they were a part of an organization called themselves The Brotherhood of EVIL Mutants more than just being mutants. Wolverine has such a checkered history, that more people were coming after him for something he did in the past, him getting constant death threats and attempts on his life has more to do with his lifestyle. More people have better reasons for killing him that don't involve him being a mutant.
>They’re discriminated and oppressed everywhere.
>everywhere
Citation needed. Beak was living just fine. Whirlwind is a criminal not singled out for being a mutant, and Spitfire's entire career is nearly clear of any that shit. There are more than a few mutants saying that their life is just fine and that Krakoa is full of weirdoes. Wolverine even attempted to kidnap Molly simply because she looked up a website about the place.
>Look at how much bad shit Avengers roster members are involved with but it doesn’t sully their reputation for long.
Which Avengers were known terrorists that advocated for racial supremacy, and still does, while having a body count within the five to six digit range? That's the guy Wolverine is cool with, that's the guy he doesn't see as a problem, it's the nasty humans that are the issue.


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>>136998548
What are they?

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>>137003628
If memory serves, she can see into the Astral Plane and can't turn it off, which means she is unable to ignore that humanity is surrounded at all times by hideous invisible intangible monsters that are watching our every move.


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>>136988892 (OP)
>Mic drop moments


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>>137004742
because the writing of marvel sucks and the x-men fsil as an oppression allegory because of ot

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>>137004812
It doesn’t fail at an allegory.


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>>137004742
>Except he isn’t because being an Avenger didn’t change his life as a mutant one bit for the better. He was still being targeted and attacked for being a mutant.
Pietro and Wanda had a relatively spotless experience while on the Avengers. They caught shit because they were a part of an organization called themselves The Brotherhood of EVIL Mutants more than just being mutants. Wolverine has such a checkered history, that more people were coming after him for something he did in the past, him getting constant death threats and attempts on his life has more to do with his lifestyle. More people have better reasons for killing him that don't involve him being a mutant.
>They’re discriminated and oppressed everywhere.
>everywhere
Citation needed. Beak was living just fine. Whirlwind is a criminal not singled out for being a mutant, and Spitfire's entire career is nearly clear of any that shit. There are more than a few mutants saying that their life is just fine and that Krakoa is full of weirdoes. Wolverine even attempted to kidnap Molly simply because she looked up a website about the place.
>Look at how much bad shit Avengers roster members are involved with but it doesn’t sully their reputation for long.
Which Avengers were known terrorists that advocated for racial supremacy, and still does, while having a body count within the five to six digit range? That's the guy Wolverine is cool with, that's the guy he doesn't see as a problem, it's the nasty humans that are the issue.

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>>137004819
>Well not every single mutant is oppressed!

Wow what a great argument. I guess racism can’t exist if one black person didn’t personally experience being
 discriminated by cops


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>>137003628
If memory serves, she can see into the Astral Plane and can't turn it off, which means she is unable to ignore that humanity is surrounded at all times by hideous invisible intangible monsters that are watching our every move.

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>>137004935
Fuck, that's awful.


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>>137004674
I've seen videos of Jordan Peterson "owning" collage students who talk similar to this, and even at their best, they aren't this articulate. There's a reason they have a reputation as shrill, shrieking nutcases. When they think they're making a good point they have smug, self-satisfied smirks and sprinkle in passive-aggressive, backhanded "owns."

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>>137004761
>I've seen videos of Jordan Peterson "owning" collage students who talk similar to this, and even at their best, they aren't this articulate.
,,,Because it's selected and edited for that.


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>>137004761
>I've seen videos of Jordan Peterson "owning" collage students who talk similar to this, and even at their best, they aren't this articulate.
,,,Because it's selected and edited for that.

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>>137005021
But you never see it the other way around is the problem.


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>>137004812
It doesn’t fail at an allegory.

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>>137004944
Yes it does, because there are very rational reasons to hate and fear mutants. Very very rational reasons


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>>137004944
Yes it does, because there are very rational reasons to hate and fear mutants. Very very rational reasons

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>>137005041
They are not rational reasons. It’s out of control paranoia and fear.


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>>137005041
They are not rational reasons. It’s out of control paranoia and fear.

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>>137005063
>telepaths can and will invade your mind just to make sure you don't have naughty thoughts
>many mutants do in fact believe they are gods now
>a mutant's power activating can and has killed people that were just unlucky enough to be around
>and of course the obvious that these people have access to powerful abilities with the only guarantee that they won't kill you being "if one does we'll take care of it, no we won't tell you how"
In fact there is no reason not to hate and fear mutants


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>>137005041
They are not rational reasons. It’s out of control paranoia and fear.

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>>137005063
>the first mutant that humanity is aware of as a whole is a guy that can upend the entire world's electrical grid and says humans will be enslaved or exterminated
>the mutants that used to fight him have only grown closer to him
>humanity is the irrational party here


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>>137005063
>telepaths can and will invade your mind just to make sure you don't have naughty thoughts
>many mutants do in fact believe they are gods now
>a mutant's power activating can and has killed people that were just unlucky enough to be around
>and of course the obvious that these people have access to powerful abilities with the only guarantee that they won't kill you being "if one does we'll take care of it, no we won't tell you how"
In fact there is no reason not to hate and fear mutants

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>>137005095
And your neighbour can be an alien infiltrator. Or your house could be possessed by a ghost. Or your country could be turned into a graveyard by an evil robot. Or everyone gets turned into monsters because a dickhead scientist. Or you get displaced in time. Or you get brainwashed by a supervillain. Or you’re dating a shapeshifter pretending to be someone else. The bum asking for a buck could be an Atlantean King. Your garage might be turned into a portal to hell. Etc. all kinds of weird shit is happening all the time but you are narrowly focused on random people with a specific gene being so dangerous and evil you advocate their genocide. You are not rational, you are being a bigot driven by paranoia who wants to pretend scapegoating one marginalised group solves all your problems


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>>137005063
>the first mutant that humanity is aware of as a whole is a guy that can upend the entire world's electrical grid and says humans will be enslaved or exterminated
>the mutants that used to fight him have only grown closer to him
>humanity is the irrational party here

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>>137005099
Magneto has been exonerated by courts and has been a ruler of his own country with diplomatic immunity. Meanwhile Captain America has conquered America and turned into a fascist state but that’s okay I guess because um he used steroids


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>>137005095
And your neighbour can be an alien infiltrator. Or your house could be possessed by a ghost. Or your country could be turned into a graveyard by an evil robot. Or everyone gets turned into monsters because a dickhead scientist. Or you get displaced in time. Or you get brainwashed by a supervillain. Or you’re dating a shapeshifter pretending to be someone else. The bum asking for a buck could be an Atlantean King. Your garage might be turned into a portal to hell. Etc. all kinds of weird shit is happening all the time but you are narrowly focused on random people with a specific gene being so dangerous and evil you advocate their genocide. You are not rational, you are being a bigot driven by paranoia who wants to pretend scapegoating one marginalised group solves all your problems

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>>137005130
Why are you assuming that I'm pro-skrull/ghost/evil robot/evil scientist/supervillian?
It's not a zero sum game. I'm sure the average Marvel citizen hates all of them too and for good reason.
>muh scapegoating marginilised people
You lose the right to call yourself marginilised when you unironically refer to yourself as gods.
You lose your right to claim to be a scapegoat when you have murdered thousands if not millions (or harbour someone who has done so)

You are driven by a false sense of understanding and kinship because you falsely believe muh metaphor applies to whatever group you belong to


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>>136988892 (OP)
I hate mutties so much


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>>137005130
Why are you assuming that I'm pro-skrull/ghost/evil robot/evil scientist/supervillian?
It's not a zero sum game. I'm sure the average Marvel citizen hates all of them too and for good reason.
>muh scapegoating marginilised people
You lose the right to call yourself marginilised when you unironically refer to yourself as gods.
You lose your right to claim to be a scapegoat when you have murdered thousands if not millions (or harbour someone who has done so)

You are driven by a false sense of understanding and kinship because you falsely believe muh metaphor applies to whatever group you belong to

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>>137005169
>It's not a zero sum game.

You certainly act like it is by saying all mutants are de facto dangerous and you need to be afraid of them because uhhhh Magneto said and did bad things and blame the entire minority group for the actions of select few.


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>>136988892 (OP)
Considering Ben's reaction I don't think it's suppose to be a dunk.


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>>136989593
Feels like most of these writers really want to have their cake and eat it to. They want to use their books to explore how they want the world to be while simultaneously holding it up as a mirror to our reality for "commentary". It makes the kind of reality where characters will comment on someone else's "privilege" while ignoring they're a seven foot tall half-a-ton rock dude who originally couldn't move through doors or go out in public without the police outright shooting on him. It makes them look severely disconnected from their own reality, like watching someone throw a fit about mean twitter comments while Galactus is on a rampage right behind them.

>>136990349
The worse part is that he was trying to frame it as people being jealous of mutants for having a place where they aren't persecuted for being different...while talking to She-Hulk, someone who still routinely unnerves people by how big tall and green she is compared to them, especially during her "Jason Aaron made me the Hulk-lite" phase.

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>>136990470
>like watching someone throw a fit about mean twitter comments while Galactus is on a rampage right behind them.
Wasnt that a plotpoint on AXE? One of the "supposed" most important people in the MarvelU was a twitter thot that spent the whole event commenting on her phone.

Then nothing was done with those normal characters except for the white male, who was obviously the bigot, and i think another died, but thats it?


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>>136990470
>like watching someone throw a fit about mean twitter comments while Galactus is on a rampage right behind them.
Wasnt that a plotpoint on AXE? One of the "supposed" most important people in the MarvelU was a twitter thot that spent the whole event commenting on her phone.

Then nothing was done with those normal characters except for the white male, who was obviously the bigot, and i think another died, but thats it?

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>>137005248
No, that was not the point.


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>>136991486
and once again, if this was a white male firefighter complaining that hulk was a dumb brute asshole who ruins as many lives than he saves, /co/ would agree with him. truly it's all in the presentation

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>>136991905
Is the firefighter's argument "you cause as much trouble and destruction as you solve"? Thats an objective complaint.

Is the argument "you cause as much trouble and destruction as you solve BECAUSE YOU ARE A WHITE MAN"? Then it is stupid and void.


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>>137005169
>It's not a zero sum game.

You certainly act like it is by saying all mutants are de facto dangerous and you need to be afraid of them because uhhhh Magneto said and did bad things and blame the entire minority group for the actions of select few.

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>>137005211
Do you not know what a "zero sum game" is? I'm assuming not.
>you need to be afraid of them because uhhhh Magneto said and did bad things and blame the entire minority group for the actions of select few
When the rest house and literally look up to him as their nation's leader it's justification enough to be fearful.
And it is a fact that most mutants are dangerous because of their power, especially those that have no control over them.


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>>136988892 (OP)
Okay sure muh cis white male and all that, but please take a moment to appreciate the sheer lack of editorial care in that "RESPECTIVELY" instead of respectfully


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>>137005099
Magneto has been exonerated by courts and has been a ruler of his own country with diplomatic immunity. Meanwhile Captain America has conquered America and turned into a fascist state but that’s okay I guess because um he used steroids

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>>137005140
>Meanwhile Captain America has conquered America and turned into a fascist state but that’s okay I guess because um he used steroids
In a comic that almost killed marvel by a retarded writer that only people in the spiderman thread sucks his dick. The story was fast retconned by how stupid it was.
>>137005130
That anon is right you retard, Xavier can control and search every mutant by hisarmy by others can't because is opresion.
That you are comparing them with villains and monster only made them looks like villain and monsters.
At least DC's Metahuman made sense even tough the chief is a cunt and I can root for them against the government


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>>137005095
And your neighbour can be an alien infiltrator. Or your house could be possessed by a ghost. Or your country could be turned into a graveyard by an evil robot. Or everyone gets turned into monsters because a dickhead scientist. Or you get displaced in time. Or you get brainwashed by a supervillain. Or you’re dating a shapeshifter pretending to be someone else. The bum asking for a buck could be an Atlantean King. Your garage might be turned into a portal to hell. Etc. all kinds of weird shit is happening all the time but you are narrowly focused on random people with a specific gene being so dangerous and evil you advocate their genocide. You are not rational, you are being a bigot driven by paranoia who wants to pretend scapegoating one marginalised group solves all your problems

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>>137005140
>Meanwhile Captain America has conquered America and turned into a fascist state but that’s okay I guess because um he used steroids
In a comic that almost killed marvel by a retarded writer that only people in the spiderman thread sucks his dick. The story was fast retconned by how stupid it was.
>>137005130
That anon is right you retard, Xavier can control and search every mutant by hisarmy by others can't because is opresion.
That you are comparing them with villains and monster only made them looks like villain and monsters.
At least DC's Metahuman made sense even tough the chief is a cunt and I can root for them against the government


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>>136988892 (OP)
Yaaas queeen


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>>136988892 (OP)
That one scene with Batman saying kids don't belong in the family business and the
>Im taking this from you? The guy that's gone through 4 robins?!

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>>136994276
>grew up and became a superhero
>grew up and became a superhero (I think? who tf is the second Robin, I can never remember him)
>dies
>currently enjoying life as Robin
3/4 isn't bad


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>>137005021
But you never see it the other way around is the problem.

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>>137005033
>But you never see it the other way around
First off this is what's known as a false equivalency, or balance fallacy.
Second, you absolutely do see it the other way around; the Daily Show's entire premise is that the other way around.


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>>136988892 (OP)
If nothing else this shows that things only count as a mic drop if you agree with it.


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>>137005033
>But you never see it the other way around
First off this is what's known as a false equivalency, or balance fallacy.
Second, you absolutely do see it the other way around; the Daily Show's entire premise is that the other way around.

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>>137005781
No, I mean you never see a college student stand up and "own" Jordan Peterson with facts & logic. They never act rational, they're never articulate and they never act respectfully.


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>Roxanne Washington was born into hip-hop "royalty" as the daughter of Roy "Daddy Libido" Washington and Angel "Sexy Mutha" Depres. Having appeared in her parents' rap videos from a young age, Washington was often targeted by would-be kidnappers and assassins

She literally lied to him.

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>>137005592
What makes it funnier is this means shes also semi-famous so people would know shes lying.


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>>136988892 (OP)
>Respectively
Another amazing editing job from the house of ideas!
That aside though, that is an interesting point of view.


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>>136994276
>grew up and became a superhero
>grew up and became a superhero (I think? who tf is the second Robin, I can never remember him)
>dies
>currently enjoying life as Robin
3/4 isn't bad

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>>137005768
Jason is the second Robin. The one you can't remember is Tim, who's the third.


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>>137004819
>Well not every single mutant is oppressed!

Wow what a great argument. I guess racism can’t exist if one black person didn’t personally experience being
 discriminated by cops

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>>137004957
Yes, that is the policy of this site.


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>>136990763
I dunno. Having five dicks sounds like a nightmare too.

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>>136999148
>Five dicks
>Six hands
Imagine


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>>137005781
No, I mean you never see a college student stand up and "own" Jordan Peterson with facts & logic. They never act rational, they're never articulate and they never act respectfully.

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>>137005802
>No, I mean you never see a college student stand up and "own" Jordan Peterson with facts & logic.
You do. When someone has a cell phone in the audience.


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>>136994276
>grew up and became a superhero
>grew up and became a superhero (I think? who tf is the second Robin, I can never remember him)
>dies
>currently enjoying life as Robin
3/4 isn't bad

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>>137005768
Anon, he say that to fucking Wally west ,a speeder, who had 2 kids with supepowers.
Also he said that in 2007 were the four robins were
>Dick grayson, which friendship were tense for years and also got rape 2 times by 2 villains
>Jason Todd, which was killed and recently revived as a homicidal maniac
>Tim Drake , that recently lost the love of his live and his father and Batman had an obsession with him that was mind breaking him
>Stephany brown that Batman only take her as robin to fuck with Tim and got killed(I think shortly after was revealed as Bruce sent her to Africa and hide her from Tim and the other)