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I remembered coming across a G1 kids book that did Starscream becomes an autobot before Armada, but I cant find any trace of it and I'm wondering if I imagined it or mixed it up.

It was a very standard 'villain gets amnesia' episodic plot
>Starscream gets amnesia and is saved by the autobots
>Even though he's their enemy, they realise he's not a threat right now, treat him well and he joins them on an escepade.
>Starscream enjoys being with them but recovers his memories and goes back to his old ways
>Secretly regrets it a bit and compares how well the Autobots treated each other compared to the Decepticons

I think it's amnesia, though it might have been a ploy pretending to switch sides and then actually finding himself liking it.

There might have been something about a volcano?

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>>136660256
It was some anthology book with multiple stories from across the franchises. I read about it before on the wiki but can't remember what the book's actual name was.


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>>136659752
I mean it was responsible for the larger JG1 continuity and it has a lesbian getting cucked by Optimus Prime


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>>136647953
Not him, but what's revisionist about what he said?

>>136645720
Primal is the best good guy leader after G1 Optimus (in Beast Wars not Beast Machines). Beast Wars is generally pretty popular, haters of it are more niche than fans of it.

>>136645378
As someone who grew up in the 90s, I loved G1 too. It's a fun show.

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>>136648385
>Not him, but what's revisionist about what he said?
Not that anon but it's probably about the whole truck not monkey outrage.


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>>136648385
>Not him, but what's revisionist about what he said?
Not that anon but it's probably about the whole truck not monkey outrage.

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>>136665707
>>136647953
I did say "a lot" of the fandom, not all of it.


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>>136645818
Nice revisionism

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>>136665707
>>136647953
I did say "a lot" of the fandom, not all of it.


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>>136654427
>energon is actually booze
No wonder they’re all retarded. They’re alcoholics.


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>>136659752
Glit should be retcon into coming to Earth with the original Decepticons.

So not only do the 1984 Decepticons finally get a medic, but Ravage gets a”twin” like Rumble/Frenzy and Laserbeak/Buzzsaw.


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>>136659752
I mean it was responsible for the larger JG1 continuity and it has a lesbian getting cucked by Optimus Prime

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>>136665490
>it has a lesbian getting cucked by Optimus Prime
It's OK, Hot Rod fucked her straight.


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>>136652358
Both went downhill after around 2004. Sliders was cooler anyway.

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>>136653222
>Sliders was cooler anyway
Not him but MAN O MAN I have never seen a show fall off so hard as Sliders did. It's basically a ship of Theseus by the end, they did everybody so dirty it's not even funny. Season 4 had some alright moments, like the "haunted" hotel episode and the world where Quinn fucked up and slid everyone else on earth to another dimension


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>>136653222
>Sliders was cooler anyway
Not him but MAN O MAN I have never seen a show fall off so hard as Sliders did. It's basically a ship of Theseus by the end, they did everybody so dirty it's not even funny. Season 4 had some alright moments, like the "haunted" hotel episode and the world where Quinn fucked up and slid everyone else on earth to another dimension

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>>136668385
Sliders was a precursor to how Fox would treat all of its sci-fi shows going forth, not named X-Files.


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>>136668385
Sliders was a precursor to how Fox would treat all of its sci-fi shows going forth, not named X-Files.

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>>136668432
That's funny, I watched most of x-files afterwards to fill the void and it only solidified my theory that no show can last beyond 5 seasons (and maybe a movie). On a more /co/ related note I think TMNT 03 is another example of this. 1-4 kino on wheels, 4-onwards meh to abject shite


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[User] Amazing how this show alone had more soul than anything produced in the 90s and 00s.

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>>136645253 (OP)
To be fair that was wild west days of kids entertainment where they had no clear formulas of what would increase sales or engage ratings. Fast forward to the mid 90s and all the hard sale crashes of brands was showing that those very costly 24+ minute TV shows was eating any profits to merc sales and/or add revenue.


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>>136657983
The Joe movie had to up the scale and threat level, like the Transformers did with Unicron.
If not Cobra La, it would have been something else bigger than normal Cobra, they used for the film.

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>>136658033
>it would have been something else bigger than normal Cobra
The original plan was having a Illuminate like group that were hidden in key locations such as Antarctica, The Mariana Trench and The Moon as the original creators of Cobra and they were going to use super soldiers to start a World War that would never end so they could always be rich off dogs of war tactics. Someone used the place holder of "Cobra-La" for their Antarctica base and parts of the Hasbro team like it and wanted Snake people. To this day we still don't know why but most assume it was where Thundercats was exploding in popularity at the time they thought so mutant monster people was a winner.


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>>136653786

So Armada Prime is a Prime who wants to be G1 Prime but his inner nature is Bayverse Prime?

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>>136658195
Exactly, anon


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>>136660256
It was some anthology book with multiple stories from across the franchises. I read about it before on the wiki but can't remember what the book's actual name was.

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>>136665451
Thanks man, I'll try looking at that. At least I'm not imaginging things or mixing it up with ancient fanfiction.


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>>136653599
I'd recommend watching an abridged version of Armada with fansubs, I actually found its take on Optimus really fun. For the majority of the show I just thought he was autistic, bc he always seemed to have trouble making fairly basic decisions that are very obviously "good," but then the finale reveals a darker side to his character that put everything into perspective. Sincere spoilers: During the finale, after teaming up to defeat Unicron, Megatron offers OP a final battle to settle their score, right as Unicron's planet form is tearing itself apart. Instead of seeing his partners off, he pulls out his Matrix and tosses it to the side, telling them to leave him. They then have an absolutely fucking brutal fight, tearing eachother apart, completely consumed by their battle-fueled adrenaline... finally Megatron gets dragged away into a black hole forming in Unicron's core, and there is an explosion. One of the episode's last shots is of Optimus, conscious, limply drifting through the wreckage... he turns his head to look at it, and bitterly mutters "I don't deserve it..."
You have NO IDEA how ready I was to see where they would take his character with this direction, it was like if it were Bay Optimus but more intriguing... Then I remembered the next series was Energon/Superlink, and I still haven't watched it lmao. Maybe someday; I also need to watch Galaxy Force, esp bc it's disconnected from the first two.

RiD2000 Fire Convoy is pretty great, but not too deep. He's just a very entertaining guy; very "pumped up!!" in a Y2K anime way, but also very levelheaded and frank. Like when he paused a battle with Skybite just to politely explain that his "poem" was bad, lmao. RiD2000's a really fucking good time bro.

As a bonus bc I watched it recently, BWII's Lio Convoy (I felt) was p underdeveloped like most of the show, but he was the standard morally-righteous Prime etc. Except the part where he refused to pay child support, for a while..

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>>136653786
RiD2000 was a Sentai show but with Transformers and it was glorious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LYYS1plaIY [Embed]


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>>136648385
>Not him, but what's revisionist about what he said?
Not that anon but it's probably about the whole truck not monkey outrage.

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>>136665707
I mean anon made three points and they're all pretty much just true.

>Transformers wasn't as popular in the early 90s
It's true, I was super intro Transformers myself at that time and blissfully unaware of any brand statistics so it's not like it had no fans, but history doesn't lie in this case. The only reason they dared try something as new and different as Beast Wars was because the toys weren't selling enough. I mean if you need proof, just look at how little nostalgia G2 gets today even though we've hit the threshold for people being nostalgic for it already. In Transformers discussion online it's always a minority (that I'm part of) who cares about G2
>People were apprehensive about Beast Wars
Also true, maybe not little kids, I sure as fuck didn't care neither did anyone my age I knew....but some older fans definitely were salty as hell about Beast Wars, apprehensive is being polite about it to be quite honest, they were mad.
>A lot of people ended up enjoying it
Also true, obviously Beast Wars was a hit with kids at the time but there are a lot of older fans who came around to liking it even if they initially didn't, it's why Beast Wars is put up on the pedestal it is today, it's become pretty widely liked in the fandom. Childhood nostalgia alone isn't the main factor in BW popularity, because every Transformers show ends up having it's own nostalgic fanbase who only likes that one show from when they were young, but not all of those shows get as widely praised.


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>>136665451
Thanks man, I'll try looking at that. At least I'm not imaginging things or mixing it up with ancient fanfiction.

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>>136669078
Found it, I remembered it's the same book Paddles the Dinobot came from so was easy to track down on the wiki.

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Redemption_Center


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Since we have some G.I. Bros in this thread, I wanna ask, have any of you read ITS Marvel comic?
Because I'm wondering if there's any major differences between it and UK's Action Force, in the same way that UK Transformers branched off from US with so many new stories.

I hadn't ever touched anything G.I.Joe (except the first liveaction movie which I barely remember) before, and everyone seems to hold the Marvel comic in the highest regard. Oh, and are the IDW Joe comics any good too? Or any of the shows?
Thanks c:

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>>136669252
Surprisingly no, The comics at first were their own thing but after they brought over the Sunbow cartoons they did a quick few pages switching cast members such as Baron Ironblood becoming Cobra Commander and they basically just ran the OG run with a few edits here and there, such as when doing Cobra Commaders early raise up days they just drew over his snake hood with Ironblood's crusader mask.


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Since we have some G.I. Bros in this thread, I wanna ask, have any of you read ITS Marvel comic?
Because I'm wondering if there's any major differences between it and UK's Action Force, in the same way that UK Transformers branched off from US with so many new stories.

I hadn't ever touched anything G.I.Joe (except the first liveaction movie which I barely remember) before, and everyone seems to hold the Marvel comic in the highest regard. Oh, and are the IDW Joe comics any good too? Or any of the shows?
Thanks c:

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>>136669252
I believe the UK Action Force Cobra Commander is just Baron Ironblood.with a new identity. Unlike in the American G.I. Joe.


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Since we have some G.I. Bros in this thread, I wanna ask, have any of you read ITS Marvel comic?
Because I'm wondering if there's any major differences between it and UK's Action Force, in the same way that UK Transformers branched off from US with so many new stories.

I hadn't ever touched anything G.I.Joe (except the first liveaction movie which I barely remember) before, and everyone seems to hold the Marvel comic in the highest regard. Oh, and are the IDW Joe comics any good too? Or any of the shows?
Thanks c:

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>>136669252
It was completely original until 1985 and then they did some backstories for name changes or why Red Shadow was gone and then they ran the US Joe run with only a few changes that said or implied CC was American.


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>>136669252
Surprisingly no, The comics at first were their own thing but after they brought over the Sunbow cartoons they did a quick few pages switching cast members such as Baron Ironblood becoming Cobra Commander and they basically just ran the OG run with a few edits here and there, such as when doing Cobra Commaders early raise up days they just drew over his snake hood with Ironblood's crusader mask.

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>>136669370
>>136669475
>>136669418
Okay cool beans, gotcha anons. I think I remember those early UK comics got reprinted eventually though, as "European Missions" or other? Did they all ever get reprinted, or is there like a reading guide out there?


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>>136669252
It was completely original until 1985 and then they did some backstories for name changes or why Red Shadow was gone and then they ran the US Joe run with only a few changes that said or implied CC was American.

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>>136669370
>>136669475
>>136669418
Okay cool beans, gotcha anons. I think I remember those early UK comics got reprinted eventually though, as "European Missions" or other? Did they all ever get reprinted, or is there like a reading guide out there?


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>>136669252
I believe the UK Action Force Cobra Commander is just Baron Ironblood.with a new identity. Unlike in the American G.I. Joe.

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>>136669370
>>136669475
>>136669418
Okay cool beans, gotcha anons. I think I remember those early UK comics got reprinted eventually though, as "European Missions" or other? Did they all ever get reprinted, or is there like a reading guide out there?


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>>136654932

the GI Joe movie had to be changed at the last minute before release after the backlash of the transformers movie and them killing off popular characters. Duke didnt die, he was "in a coma and alive" in the revised ending.

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>>136657932
That movie's still awesome, regardless of whether Duke lives or dies.

>>136657983
>Real crime is the fact they dropped the Season 2 plotline of everyone hating Serpentor and wanting Cobra Commander back because the movie was written before it was dumb. I wanted it to be my lad Cobra Commander's time to shine than another fucking Cobra-La plot
That was only the final episode of the second season, and Cobra Commander had only managed to recruit some Tele-Vipers and mercs like Firefly and the Dreadnoks to his side because he was paying them. Once the Joes shut down the slave mine he was running, he'd run out of gold to pay them with. The opening of the movie was pretty accurate about most of Cobra's high command always hating Cobra Commander and blaming him for all their problems, often justifiably.

And >>136658033 is right that if it hadn't been Cobra-La, it would have been some other new villain to escalate the threat.


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>>136657932
The Joes have survived worse being fair, like Snake Eyes literally being irradiated so badly he was fucking glowing and his life span dropped by a day to hours only to be saved by some fuckin old guy.
Real crime is the fact they dropped the Season 2 plotline of everyone hating Serpentor and wanting Cobra Commander back because the movie was written before it was dumb. I wanted it to be my lad Cobra Commander's time to shine than another fucking Cobra-La plot

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>>136657932
That movie's still awesome, regardless of whether Duke lives or dies.

>>136657983
>Real crime is the fact they dropped the Season 2 plotline of everyone hating Serpentor and wanting Cobra Commander back because the movie was written before it was dumb. I wanted it to be my lad Cobra Commander's time to shine than another fucking Cobra-La plot
That was only the final episode of the second season, and Cobra Commander had only managed to recruit some Tele-Vipers and mercs like Firefly and the Dreadnoks to his side because he was paying them. Once the Joes shut down the slave mine he was running, he'd run out of gold to pay them with. The opening of the movie was pretty accurate about most of Cobra's high command always hating Cobra Commander and blaming him for all their problems, often justifiably.

And >>136658033 is right that if it hadn't been Cobra-La, it would have been some other new villain to escalate the threat.


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>>136657983
The Joe movie had to up the scale and threat level, like the Transformers did with Unicron.
If not Cobra La, it would have been something else bigger than normal Cobra, they used for the film.

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>>136657932
That movie's still awesome, regardless of whether Duke lives or dies.

>>136657983
>Real crime is the fact they dropped the Season 2 plotline of everyone hating Serpentor and wanting Cobra Commander back because the movie was written before it was dumb. I wanted it to be my lad Cobra Commander's time to shine than another fucking Cobra-La plot
That was only the final episode of the second season, and Cobra Commander had only managed to recruit some Tele-Vipers and mercs like Firefly and the Dreadnoks to his side because he was paying them. Once the Joes shut down the slave mine he was running, he'd run out of gold to pay them with. The opening of the movie was pretty accurate about most of Cobra's high command always hating Cobra Commander and blaming him for all their problems, often justifiably.

And >>136658033 is right that if it hadn't been Cobra-La, it would have been some other new villain to escalate the threat.


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>>136659752
In all seriousness, the G1 episode where Powerglide gets a human girlfriend, the one where Seaspray gets a mermaid girlfriend, and the Bumblebee movie have me willing to enjoy a G1 show focused on human girl/robot guy pairings, if only it was done in a more wholesome way and the girls weren't made to look like children. I honestly think they could have had something there if only they could have stopped being perverts.


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>>136645253 (OP)
I miss this Optimus prime

He could actually have fun

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>>136646308
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj1g7aCXi7A [Embed]


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>>136669252
Surprisingly no, The comics at first were their own thing but after they brought over the Sunbow cartoons they did a quick few pages switching cast members such as Baron Ironblood becoming Cobra Commander and they basically just ran the OG run with a few edits here and there, such as when doing Cobra Commaders early raise up days they just drew over his snake hood with Ironblood's crusader mask.

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>>136669370
>>136669418
That's not the Marvel UK Action Force comic, it's a previous series by a different publisher, and a separate continuity. Baron Ironblood and the Red Shadows weren't part of the Marvel GI Joe continuity until the IDW continuation of the series in the 2010s.

The Marvel UK series started over with a combination of US Joe reprints and original material set in the same continuity, though as with Transformers, not always compatible with the US book.

>>136670007
The last run of Marvel UK Action Force was reprinted in the US as GI Joe European Missions, as far as I know, none of the other comics have been reprinted since except for the issues that crossed over with Transformers.


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>>136669252
I believe the UK Action Force Cobra Commander is just Baron Ironblood.with a new identity. Unlike in the American G.I. Joe.

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>>136669370
>>136669418
That's not the Marvel UK Action Force comic, it's a previous series by a different publisher, and a separate continuity. Baron Ironblood and the Red Shadows weren't part of the Marvel GI Joe continuity until the IDW continuation of the series in the 2010s.

The Marvel UK series started over with a combination of US Joe reprints and original material set in the same continuity, though as with Transformers, not always compatible with the US book.

>>136670007
The last run of Marvel UK Action Force was reprinted in the US as GI Joe European Missions, as far as I know, none of the other comics have been reprinted since except for the issues that crossed over with Transformers.


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>>136669370
>>136669475
>>136669418
Okay cool beans, gotcha anons. I think I remember those early UK comics got reprinted eventually though, as "European Missions" or other? Did they all ever get reprinted, or is there like a reading guide out there?

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>>136669370
>>136669418
That's not the Marvel UK Action Force comic, it's a previous series by a different publisher, and a separate continuity. Baron Ironblood and the Red Shadows weren't part of the Marvel GI Joe continuity until the IDW continuation of the series in the 2010s.

The Marvel UK series started over with a combination of US Joe reprints and original material set in the same continuity, though as with Transformers, not always compatible with the US book.

>>136670007
The last run of Marvel UK Action Force was reprinted in the US as GI Joe European Missions, as far as I know, none of the other comics have been reprinted since except for the issues that crossed over with Transformers.


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>>136659752
In all seriousness, the G1 episode where Powerglide gets a human girlfriend, the one where Seaspray gets a mermaid girlfriend, and the Bumblebee movie have me willing to enjoy a G1 show focused on human girl/robot guy pairings, if only it was done in a more wholesome way and the girls weren't made to look like children. I honestly think they could have had something there if only they could have stopped being perverts.

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>>136670766
Powerglide is such an asshole, I love him.
I mean.. I hate him, but I really love hating him.
He's such a self-absorbed little cunt lmao.


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[User] Amazing how this show alone had more soul than anything produced in the 90s and 00s.

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>>136645253 (OP)
Amazing how wrong (You) are


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>>136670766
Powerglide is such an asshole, I love him.
I mean.. I hate him, but I really love hating him.
He's such a self-absorbed little cunt lmao.

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>>136671299
He's such a self-aggrandizing egomaniac that he should be absolutely insufferable, but somehow he manages to be likeable. And he was the absolute Chad of the Autobots.


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>>136671299
He's such a self-aggrandizing egomaniac that he should be absolutely insufferable, but somehow he manages to be likeable. And he was the absolute Chad of the Autobots.

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>>136671409
Don’t forget he also had fembot Moonracer after him.


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>>136671299
He's such a self-aggrandizing egomaniac that he should be absolutely insufferable, but somehow he manages to be likeable. And he was the absolute Chad of the Autobots.

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>>136671409
Exactly my thoughts. Also love his moments of extremely-irritated womanizing from that episode, he was practically begging her to shut up LMAO


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[User] Amazing how this show alone had more soul than anything produced in the 90s and 00s.

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>>136645253 (OP)
cartoons were written by adult professionals who wanted to make entertaining shows for kids
now cartoons are made by emotionally stunted weirdos for nobody


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[User] So... any word on who is going to make new official comics?

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>>136671624
Because of the Discovery/WB merger it’s looking like DC will.


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>>136669370
>>136669418
That's not the Marvel UK Action Force comic, it's a previous series by a different publisher, and a separate continuity. Baron Ironblood and the Red Shadows weren't part of the Marvel GI Joe continuity until the IDW continuation of the series in the 2010s.

The Marvel UK series started over with a combination of US Joe reprints and original material set in the same continuity, though as with Transformers, not always compatible with the US book.

>>136670007
The last run of Marvel UK Action Force was reprinted in the US as GI Joe European Missions, as far as I know, none of the other comics have been reprinted since except for the issues that crossed over with Transformers.

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>>136670989
Oh geez, then it's what I was worried of lolrip...
Is the UK material worth reading, like how with TF the UK stuff is sometimes regarded as even better than the US stuff at times?
Guess this finding a reading guide is all the more important then...


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>>136671409
Don’t forget he also had fembot Moonracer after him.

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>>136671475
It's especially funny because Powerglide's human girlfriend was the very next episode.


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>>136645253 (OP)
cartoons were written by adult professionals who wanted to make entertaining shows for kids
now cartoons are made by emotionally stunted weirdos for nobody

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>>136671539
80s and 00s cartoons weren't entertaining.


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[User] So... any word on who is going to make new official comics?

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>>136671624
IIRC, Skybound scooped up the licenses for Transformers and GI Joe.


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>>136671539
80s and 00s cartoons weren't entertaining.

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>>136672024
Why are millennials so desperate for culture wars?
We had good cartoons in every decade man. I still remember being 5 on the internet for the first time and already seeing (then-teenage) 90s kids being extremely loud about "nothing was as good as the 90s!" while I was just having a ball. Y'all take stuff too seriously...


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>>136671624
Because of the Discovery/WB merger it’s looking like DC will.

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>>136671662
I don't think Discovery really has anything to do with Transformers as an IP, hell Hasbro isn't even beholden to them as a network anymore since the whole Hub thing didn't work out as planned, the newest TF show is with Nickelodeon

>>136672094
Every gen has people like that anon, you have multiple people saying "hurr nothing was good until the 00s" ITT too


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>>136672024
Why are millennials so desperate for culture wars?
We had good cartoons in every decade man. I still remember being 5 on the internet for the first time and already seeing (then-teenage) 90s kids being extremely loud about "nothing was as good as the 90s!" while I was just having a ball. Y'all take stuff too seriously...

[Assistant]
>>136671662
I don't think Discovery really has anything to do with Transformers as an IP, hell Hasbro isn't even beholden to them as a network anymore since the whole Hub thing didn't work out as planned, the newest TF show is with Nickelodeon

>>136672094
Every gen has people like that anon, you have multiple people saying "hurr nothing was good until the 00s" ITT too


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>>136670989
Oh geez, then it's what I was worried of lolrip...
Is the UK material worth reading, like how with TF the UK stuff is sometimes regarded as even better than the US stuff at times?
Guess this finding a reading guide is all the more important then...

[Assistant]
>>136671764
The two Marvel UK volumes are here, without most of the US reprints. Unless you can find the original comics it's pretty much the only way to read them. It looks like they're missing the 1988 annual.
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Action-Force
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Action-Force-Monthly

This is the series that featured the non-Marvel Action Force comics, but they don't have any 80s issues with it in.
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Battle-Picture-Weekly


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>>136645720
Beast Wars takes place 300 years after G1*. The Autobot/Decepticon war is long over and their successors, the Maximals and Predacons, live in uneasy peace.

Megatron (not the G1 one, a different guy using the same name) and his crew of rebels steal the Golden Disk, an artifact that supposedly contains the coordinates to a large source of Energon. With this Energon, Megatron could gain enough power to restart the war and claim victory for the Predacons. They flee in their ship.

The only ship in the area able to chase them is a Maximal exploration ship, led by Optimus Primal (again, different guy). The Predacons activate their TransWarp drive, with the Maximals locked on to them. TransWarp allows warping through space AND time, and both ships emerge in orbit of an unknown, undeveloped planet. They battle in space, each managing to cripple the other. Both ships crash land on the planet.

Megatron's gambit has paid off - too well. The planet has both figurative and literal MOUNTAINS of Energon, but it's in a raw, unprocessed state. It's also insanely harmful to Cybertronians, just a few minutes exposed to a crystal's radiation will kill them. Both the Maximals and Predacons scan the local wildlife to take on organic modes, which will shield them from the Energon while in beast mode.

As both sides fight over the Energon, another problem occurs: They're not the first alien life on the planet. And the ones that were there first aren't too happy about the disruption the Beast Wars are causing.

Now we get into SPOILER territory. ACTUAL SPOILERS AHEAD: The reason Megatron fled to this planet wasn't actually for its Energon deposits. The planet is Earth. Earth, 4 million years before the Autobots and Decepticons wake up. Megatron's plan is kill the original Optimus Prime while he's comatose. Without their great leader, the Autobots will lose the war and the Predacons of the present will rule Cybertron.

[Assistant]
>>136651417
>The planet is Earth.
yeah no shit


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>>136651417
>The planet is Earth.
yeah no shit

[Assistant]
>>136672473
The planet appeared to have two moons to begin with, so this actually did end up being a twist.


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[User] Amazing how this show alone had more soul than anything produced in the 90s and 00s.

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>>136645253 (OP)
Why do you fags shit on Bayformers while worshipping shows like Beast Wars and TF Animated?


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>>136645253 (OP)
Why do you fags shit on Bayformers while worshipping shows like Beast Wars and TF Animated?

[Assistant]
>>136673300
The real enlightened individual acknowledges both are good, just specializing in different areas.


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>>136673300
The real enlightened individual acknowledges both are good, just specializing in different areas.

[Assistant]
>>136673351
One is kino and the other is kiddie shit


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>>136673351
One is kino and the other is kiddie shit

[Assistant]
>>136673610
what's wrong with kiddie stuff, anon? Don't be so insecure.


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>>136673610
what's wrong with kiddie stuff, anon? Don't be so insecure.

[Assistant]
>>136673718
Anon, neither you nor I are children. This is why Bayformers exists.


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>>136673718
Anon, neither you nor I are children. This is why Bayformers exists.

[Assistant]
>>136673751
grown parents watch Bluey.


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>>136673751
grown parents watch Bluey.

[Assistant]
>>136673775
And they're the new bronies. Your point?


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>>136673775
And they're the new bronies. Your point?

[Assistant]
>>136673785
>And they're based
Your point?


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>>136673610
what's wrong with kiddie stuff, anon? Don't be so insecure.

[Assistant]
>>136673718
/co/ has hated baby cartoons since its inception. It's only recently that we've had an influx of infantilized manchildren.


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>>136673718
/co/ has hated baby cartoons since its inception. It's only recently that we've had an influx of infantilized manchildren.

[Assistant]
>>136673831
>implying anyone on /co/ isn't an infantilized manchild
>implying watching BIG BOY cartoons/movies somehow doesn't make you a manchild
Just accept it as part of yourself and move on with your life.


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>>136653222
>Sliders was cooler anyway
Not him but MAN O MAN I have never seen a show fall off so hard as Sliders did. It's basically a ship of Theseus by the end, they did everybody so dirty it's not even funny. Season 4 had some alright moments, like the "haunted" hotel episode and the world where Quinn fucked up and slid everyone else on earth to another dimension

[Assistant]
>>136668385
>>136668432
>>136668511
I think he's talking about the fucking Lego Toyline that was essentially proto Bionicle


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>>136668385
Sliders was a precursor to how Fox would treat all of its sci-fi shows going forth, not named X-Files.

[Assistant]
>>136668385
>>136668432
>>136668511
I think he's talking about the fucking Lego Toyline that was essentially proto Bionicle


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>>136668432
That's funny, I watched most of x-files afterwards to fill the void and it only solidified my theory that no show can last beyond 5 seasons (and maybe a movie). On a more /co/ related note I think TMNT 03 is another example of this. 1-4 kino on wheels, 4-onwards meh to abject shite

[Assistant]
>>136668385
>>136668432
>>136668511
I think he's talking about the fucking Lego Toyline that was essentially proto Bionicle


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>>136673831
>implying anyone on /co/ isn't an infantilized manchild
>implying watching BIG BOY cartoons/movies somehow doesn't make you a manchild
Just accept it as part of yourself and move on with your life.

[Assistant]
>>136673865
>projecting his manchild insecurities
Nice try but I read actual /co/ content like Hatred.


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>>136671662
I don't think Discovery really has anything to do with Transformers as an IP, hell Hasbro isn't even beholden to them as a network anymore since the whole Hub thing didn't work out as planned, the newest TF show is with Nickelodeon

>>136672094
Every gen has people like that anon, you have multiple people saying "hurr nothing was good until the 00s" ITT too

[Assistant]
>>136672203
>Every gen has people like that anon, you have multiple people saying "hurr nothing was good until the 00s" ITT too
Yeah while that anon was running into millenials who complained about 2000's shows on, idk, fucking tumblr or whatever, millenials here on 4chan were watching 2000's cartoons and making fanart and stuff.


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>>136672203
>Every gen has people like that anon, you have multiple people saying "hurr nothing was good until the 00s" ITT too
Yeah while that anon was running into millenials who complained about 2000's shows on, idk, fucking tumblr or whatever, millenials here on 4chan were watching 2000's cartoons and making fanart and stuff.

[Assistant]
>>136673968
>millenials here on 4chan were watching 2000's cartoons and making fanart and stuff.
Revisionist history


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>>136672203
>Every gen has people like that anon, you have multiple people saying "hurr nothing was good until the 00s" ITT too
Yeah while that anon was running into millenials who complained about 2000's shows on, idk, fucking tumblr or whatever, millenials here on 4chan were watching 2000's cartoons and making fanart and stuff.

[Assistant]
>>136673968
Do not fucking dare slander me as a tumblr user.
I was, in fact, a retarded child who had no idea there were other websites in existence besides late-2000s youtube.


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>>136673968
>millenials here on 4chan were watching 2000's cartoons and making fanart and stuff.
Revisionist history

[Assistant]
>>136673991
Anon, there's visual proof.
>>136674005
ngl kid that might even be worse.


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>>136673968
Do not fucking dare slander me as a tumblr user.
I was, in fact, a retarded child who had no idea there were other websites in existence besides late-2000s youtube.

[Assistant]
>>136673991
Anon, there's visual proof.
>>136674005
ngl kid that might even be worse.


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>>136673991
Anon, there's visual proof.
>>136674005
ngl kid that might even be worse.

[Assistant]
>>136674104
I'm 22, anon..


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>>136658195
Exactly, anon

[Assistant]
>>136669026

It's amusing how Armada Megatron wasn't happy when Prime sacrificed himself becaue you'd think he'd be happy that his hated rival is gone. He was actually HAPPIER when Prime came back.


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>>136645253 (OP)
Why do you fags shit on Bayformers while worshipping shows like Beast Wars and TF Animated?

[Assistant]
>>136673300
>>136673751
Bayformers isn't for adults in any way, it's for adolescent boys who just discovered boners. Do you really feel a sense of maturity for enjoying media primarily aimed at 13 year olds as opposed to 10 year olds? Somehow, I think not and bet you're just trolling, so here's your (you)

>>136673831
Ahh, someone who started posted here in the 2010s yet is posing as an oldfag who knows the board culture.


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>>136673718
Anon, neither you nor I are children. This is why Bayformers exists.

[Assistant]
>>136673300
>>136673751
Bayformers isn't for adults in any way, it's for adolescent boys who just discovered boners. Do you really feel a sense of maturity for enjoying media primarily aimed at 13 year olds as opposed to 10 year olds? Somehow, I think not and bet you're just trolling, so here's your (you)

>>136673831
Ahh, someone who started posted here in the 2010s yet is posing as an oldfag who knows the board culture.


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>>136673718
/co/ has hated baby cartoons since its inception. It's only recently that we've had an influx of infantilized manchildren.

[Assistant]
>>136673300
>>136673751
Bayformers isn't for adults in any way, it's for adolescent boys who just discovered boners. Do you really feel a sense of maturity for enjoying media primarily aimed at 13 year olds as opposed to 10 year olds? Somehow, I think not and bet you're just trolling, so here's your (you)

>>136673831
Ahh, someone who started posted here in the 2010s yet is posing as an oldfag who knows the board culture.


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

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>>136673300
>>136673751
Bayformers isn't for adults in any way, it's for adolescent boys who just discovered boners. Do you really feel a sense of maturity for enjoying media primarily aimed at 13 year olds as opposed to 10 year olds? Somehow, I think not and bet you're just trolling, so here's your (you)

>>136673831
Ahh, someone who started posted here in the 2010s yet is posing as an oldfag who knows the board culture.

[Assistant]
>>136674743
I've been here since 2006. We didn't even care about cartoons that much.


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>>136674743
I've been here since 2006. We didn't even care about cartoons that much.

[Assistant]
>>136674870
I started posting here around '07 and mainly to talk about shit like Batman TAS and 90's Marvel cartoons I was nostalgic for which reignited my interest in capeshit, so yeah I definitely don't recall any bias against so called kid's shows

And even if you can say there was an influx of kid's show prominence, that would have been like in 2010 when Adventure Time and you know what came out ushering in the whole modern wave of kid shows with adult fanbases, which is a little over a decade ago. So pretty disingenuous to claim it's "recent" that anybody discusses kiddie shows here, even if we're going to be objective about what counts as a "kiddie" show and not try to pretend Bayformers is actually more mature than Beast Wars


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>>136674743
I've been here since 2006. We didn't even care about cartoons that much.

[Assistant]
>>136674870
two words: Ruby Gloom.


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[User] Remember when Sea Spray got himself a mermaid girlfriend to bang?

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>>136675323
that was a goddamn fever dream of an episode. Call me over-exaggerating but that scene of Rumble being transmogrified into a tree was an out-of-body experience for me. I didn't know whether to fall onto the floor wheezing in laughter, or contemplate the life decisions that led me to watching this, so I just sat there in paralysis for a good couple minutes.
Then Seaspray turned himself into a human because he wanted pussy, except his feet stayed robotic for some reason and his voice was still gargling, and it happened to me again.

10/10 would recommend, especially if you're a drug addict (I am not one, but imagine one would enjoy it.)


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[User] Remember when Sea Spray got himself a mermaid girlfriend to bang?

[Assistant]
>>136675323
toy when?


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>>136675323
toy when?

[Assistant]
>>136675891
At the rate Hasbro's going of making the most utterly "literally who?" G1 characters to the point that they're sometimes making up brand new ones now, honestly? I wouldn't be surprised if it'd be soon.


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>>136675891
At the rate Hasbro's going of making the most utterly "literally who?" G1 characters to the point that they're sometimes making up brand new ones now, honestly? I wouldn't be surprised if it'd be soon.

[Assistant]
>>136675933
I guess it's possible, but they haven't even done Seaspray himself yet in the War for Cybertron or Legacy lines.


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>>136675323
that was a goddamn fever dream of an episode. Call me over-exaggerating but that scene of Rumble being transmogrified into a tree was an out-of-body experience for me. I didn't know whether to fall onto the floor wheezing in laughter, or contemplate the life decisions that led me to watching this, so I just sat there in paralysis for a good couple minutes.
Then Seaspray turned himself into a human because he wanted pussy, except his feet stayed robotic for some reason and his voice was still gargling, and it happened to me again.

10/10 would recommend, especially if you're a drug addict (I am not one, but imagine one would enjoy it.)

[Assistant]
>>136675686
>Then Seaspray turned himself into a human because he wanted pussy, except his feet stayed robotic for some reason and his voice was still gargling
Not just the same voice actor, Seaspray and Mer-Man from He-Man had the same voice.


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>>136675933
I guess it's possible, but they haven't even done Seaspray himself yet in the War for Cybertron or Legacy lines.

[Assistant]
>>136676041
True, but they're steadily doing all the minibots it seems. They're doing Beachcomber now, and Brawn soon; I'm sure they'll get around to the rest. Apparently Gears was in a leaked listing?
Personally I really want Powerglide and Warpath someday, as well as Seaspray (and also a Cosmos reissue because godfuckingdamn).


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>>136645253 (OP)
Why do you fags shit on Bayformers while worshipping shows like Beast Wars and TF Animated?

[Assistant]
>>136673300
>>136673610
>>136673751
>>136673831
>>136673957
>>136673991
>>136674870
>Industryfag


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>>136673351
One is kino and the other is kiddie shit

[Assistant]
>>136673300
>>136673610
>>136673751
>>136673831
>>136673957
>>136673991
>>136674870
>Industryfag


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>>136673718
Anon, neither you nor I are children. This is why Bayformers exists.

[Assistant]
>>136673300
>>136673610
>>136673751
>>136673831
>>136673957
>>136673991
>>136674870
>Industryfag


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>>136673718
/co/ has hated baby cartoons since its inception. It's only recently that we've had an influx of infantilized manchildren.

[Assistant]
>>136673300
>>136673610
>>136673751
>>136673831
>>136673957
>>136673991
>>136674870
>Industryfag


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>>136673865
>projecting his manchild insecurities
Nice try but I read actual /co/ content like Hatred.

[Assistant]
>>136673300
>>136673610
>>136673751
>>136673831
>>136673957
>>136673991
>>136674870
>Industryfag


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>>136673968
>millenials here on 4chan were watching 2000's cartoons and making fanart and stuff.
Revisionist history

[Assistant]
>>136673300
>>136673610
>>136673751
>>136673831
>>136673957
>>136673991
>>136674870
>Industryfag


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>>136674743
I've been here since 2006. We didn't even care about cartoons that much.

[Assistant]
>>136673300
>>136673610
>>136673751
>>136673831
>>136673957
>>136673991
>>136674870
>Industryfag


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>>136676041
True, but they're steadily doing all the minibots it seems. They're doing Beachcomber now, and Brawn soon; I'm sure they'll get around to the rest. Apparently Gears was in a leaked listing?
Personally I really want Powerglide and Warpath someday, as well as Seaspray (and also a Cosmos reissue because godfuckingdamn).

[Assistant]
>>136676158
>and also a Cosmos reissue because godfuckingdamn
Tell me about it. Brawn, Powerglide and Seaspray are the other ones I really want, but you may have missed your shot on Warpath, he was released during WFC Kingdom.


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>>136671539
80s and 00s cartoons weren't entertaining.

[Assistant]
>>136672024
cope


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>>136668385
>>136668432
>>136668511
I think he's talking about the fucking Lego Toyline that was essentially proto Bionicle

[Assistant]
>>136673887
Wow, what a dickhead


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>>136676158
>and also a Cosmos reissue because godfuckingdamn
Tell me about it. Brawn, Powerglide and Seaspray are the other ones I really want, but you may have missed your shot on Warpath, he was released during WFC Kingdom.

[Assistant]
>>136676301
Yee, I forgot he was in Kingdom until right after hitting send lolrip. Ah well, he doesn't seem too expensive 2nd-hand doe.
Hopefully they get to doing his WfC and DotM game designs, those were both really good.


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>>136675891
At the rate Hasbro's going of making the most utterly "literally who?" G1 characters to the point that they're sometimes making up brand new ones now, honestly? I wouldn't be surprised if it'd be soon.

[Assistant]
>>136675933
who should they be making toys of. The same three guys over and over?


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>>136675933
who should they be making toys of. The same three guys over and over?

[Assistant]
>>136677171
I mean they do that too anyway.


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>>136675933
who should they be making toys of. The same three guys over and over?

[Assistant]
>>136677171
Believe it or not, there exist characters that AREN'T from G1. Shocking, I know!

It was only a few years ago that they started taking fucking Beast Wars seriously again, and only this year that they've been acknowledging Armada and WfC/FoC exist. At the same time, they're also butchering Animated and Prime characters into terrible "G1-style" versions, which nobody asked for...

I want characters from Victory (that aren't prohibitively-expensive crowdfunds), Beast Wars that don't have photo-realistic animal modes INCLUDING BW II/Neo, more RiD2000 characters since they barely fucking acknowledge it, more comic characters from Marvel/Dreamwave/IDW alike and Armada, Galaxy Force, the different video games, animation-accurate Animated and Prime characters, FUCKING HELL do Rescue Bots characters in the mainline for once!!
I don't want fucking Ariel from that one G1 prequel episode, or an army of Junkions (even if the latter are apparently really good).


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>>136677171
Believe it or not, there exist characters that AREN'T from G1. Shocking, I know!

It was only a few years ago that they started taking fucking Beast Wars seriously again, and only this year that they've been acknowledging Armada and WfC/FoC exist. At the same time, they're also butchering Animated and Prime characters into terrible "G1-style" versions, which nobody asked for...

I want characters from Victory (that aren't prohibitively-expensive crowdfunds), Beast Wars that don't have photo-realistic animal modes INCLUDING BW II/Neo, more RiD2000 characters since they barely fucking acknowledge it, more comic characters from Marvel/Dreamwave/IDW alike and Armada, Galaxy Force, the different video games, animation-accurate Animated and Prime characters, FUCKING HELL do Rescue Bots characters in the mainline for once!!
I don't want fucking Ariel from that one G1 prequel episode, or an army of Junkions (even if the latter are apparently really good).

[Assistant]
>>136677400
>they're also butchering Animated and Prime characters into terrible "G1-style" versions, which nobody asked for...

People loved it in 2010


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>>136677400
>they're also butchering Animated and Prime characters into terrible "G1-style" versions, which nobody asked for...

People loved it in 2010

[Assistant]
>>136677573
Firstly, that's Movie-style :^]
But important thing is because 2010 was just a year after the Animated toyline proper. Those original Animated toys were easy to get if you wanted them, making this a welcome unique idea.

Now it's been almost 15 years.


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>>136653540
Yeah, I really liked Animated's take on Prime. Primal was good too until Beast Machines.
Never really watched much of the first RiD or the Armada trilogy so can't say much on their Optimus Primes.

[Assistant]
>>136653599
>Never really watched much of the first RiD or the Armada trilogy so can't say much on their Optimus Primes.

The Japanese Optimuses/Convoys are pretty varied in their personalities, views, and methods.


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>>136677573
Firstly, that's Movie-style :^]
But important thing is because 2010 was just a year after the Animated toyline proper. Those original Animated toys were easy to get if you wanted them, making this a welcome unique idea.

Now it's been almost 15 years.

[Assistant]
>>136677833
>Those original Animated toys were easy to get if you wanted them, making this a welcome unique idea.
>Now it's been almost 15 years.
Holy fuck what happened to secondhand TF prices, used to be the worst markup for non-G1, non import stuff was just like $20 extra, now 5 year old releases are triple or more.
That said I hesitate how good modern Hasbro would be at making truly decent Animated/Prime updates, those had higher budgets and I don't see the appeal in getting smaller versions with less paint just for some ankle rockers. I'd rather get 3P improved KOs


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[User]
>>136677171
Believe it or not, there exist characters that AREN'T from G1. Shocking, I know!

It was only a few years ago that they started taking fucking Beast Wars seriously again, and only this year that they've been acknowledging Armada and WfC/FoC exist. At the same time, they're also butchering Animated and Prime characters into terrible "G1-style" versions, which nobody asked for...

I want characters from Victory (that aren't prohibitively-expensive crowdfunds), Beast Wars that don't have photo-realistic animal modes INCLUDING BW II/Neo, more RiD2000 characters since they barely fucking acknowledge it, more comic characters from Marvel/Dreamwave/IDW alike and Armada, Galaxy Force, the different video games, animation-accurate Animated and Prime characters, FUCKING HELL do Rescue Bots characters in the mainline for once!!
I don't want fucking Ariel from that one G1 prequel episode, or an army of Junkions (even if the latter are apparently really good).

[Assistant]
>>136677400
so you want the "literally whos" that you like


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>>136677573
Firstly, that's Movie-style :^]
But important thing is because 2010 was just a year after the Animated toyline proper. Those original Animated toys were easy to get if you wanted them, making this a welcome unique idea.

Now it's been almost 15 years.

[Assistant]
>>136677833
If that was movie style it would be an entirely grey mess of pointy parts


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>>136677833
If that was movie style it would be an entirely grey mess of pointy parts

[Assistant]
>>136678291
It's... literally an extension of the RotF line, though.
Don't be such a hater bro. Movie designs for the first two films fuck hard.

>>136678244
(You)


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[User]
>>136677400
so you want the "literally whos" that you like

[Assistant]
>>136678291
It's... literally an extension of the RotF line, though.
Don't be such a hater bro. Movie designs for the first two films fuck hard.

>>136678244
(You)


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[User]
>>136678291
It's... literally an extension of the RotF line, though.
Don't be such a hater bro. Movie designs for the first two films fuck hard.

>>136678244
(You)

[Assistant]
>>136678427
No, not (you) you homo.
Every time I heard the "literal who" bullshit it someone butthurt that they're not making HIS favorite nobodies.


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[User]
>>136678291
It's... literally an extension of the RotF line, though.
Don't be such a hater bro. Movie designs for the first two films fuck hard.

>>136678244
(You)

[Assistant]
>>136678427
Yeah, that's why they included him the the G1 comic used to advertise the figures at the time, because he was a movie guy.


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[User] >>136652029

[Assistant]
>>136654427
>beast wars reveals the nemesis crashed into the ocean and settled in the same position as its future replacement, the victory
>tarantulas and beast megatron get it up and running and nearly destroy the ark
>rhinox kamikazes the commant tower and sends it careening over the horizon to crash in south america
>four million years later archaeologists find and excavate the shit, alerting megatron who takes its power core for his personal use

I love when a sequel does stuff like this.


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>>136678427
No, not (you) you homo.
Every time I heard the "literal who" bullshit it someone butthurt that they're not making HIS favorite nobodies.

[Assistant]
>>136678478
Please look me in the webcam and tell me with a straight face that "the major characters from several well-received shows/comics are just as irrelevant as fucking Ariel and Dion."

>>136678575
Okay so, looking it up, it seems we're both right?
The 2010 toyline seems to have been made with the intention of being like, an intermediary between the films and Generations, where it had a lot of movie and movie-style designs, and gradually shifted into more recognizably-G1 designs. This is why characters like Lugnut could be argued for either artstyle.


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[User]
>>136678427
Yeah, that's why they included him the the G1 comic used to advertise the figures at the time, because he was a movie guy.

[Assistant]
>>136678478
Please look me in the webcam and tell me with a straight face that "the major characters from several well-received shows/comics are just as irrelevant as fucking Ariel and Dion."

>>136678575
Okay so, looking it up, it seems we're both right?
The 2010 toyline seems to have been made with the intention of being like, an intermediary between the films and Generations, where it had a lot of movie and movie-style designs, and gradually shifted into more recognizably-G1 designs. This is why characters like Lugnut could be argued for either artstyle.


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User] Remember when Sea Spray got himself a mermaid girlfriend to bang?

[Assistant]
>>136675323
Remember when Rodimus Prime got put into a synthoid body and got laid?


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[User]
>>136678478
Please look me in the webcam and tell me with a straight face that "the major characters from several well-received shows/comics are just as irrelevant as fucking Ariel and Dion."

>>136678575
Okay so, looking it up, it seems we're both right?
The 2010 toyline seems to have been made with the intention of being like, an intermediary between the films and Generations, where it had a lot of movie and movie-style designs, and gradually shifted into more recognizably-G1 designs. This is why characters like Lugnut could be argued for either artstyle.

[Assistant]
>>136678900
I'm sure they're relevant to the fans.
but tell me the "relevant characters" from your favorite shows and I'll shrug because they're a bunch of whos to me.
Just like you're screeching because you're not getting the toys you want.
not go cry somewhere else because baby not getting his toys


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[User] Amazing how this show alone had more soul than anything produced in the 90s and 00s.

[Assistant]
>>136645253 (OP)
Don't you have better things to do than to defend shitty 80s cartoons to people less than half your age?


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
>>136678478
Please look me in the webcam and tell me with a straight face that "the major characters from several well-received shows/comics are just as irrelevant as fucking Ariel and Dion."

>>136678575
Okay so, looking it up, it seems we're both right?
The 2010 toyline seems to have been made with the intention of being like, an intermediary between the films and Generations, where it had a lot of movie and movie-style designs, and gradually shifted into more recognizably-G1 designs. This is why characters like Lugnut could be argued for either artstyle.

[Assistant]
>>136678900
>seems we're both right?
no, that version of Lugnut was intended as a G1 guy. That's it. You're wrong


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[User]
>>136678900
I'm sure they're relevant to the fans.
but tell me the "relevant characters" from your favorite shows and I'll shrug because they're a bunch of whos to me.
Just like you're screeching because you're not getting the toys you want.
not go cry somewhere else because baby not getting his toys

[Assistant]
>>136678976
Having actually engaged with multiple corners of the franchise including G1, I somehow doubt that G1-only fans care about the types of single-episode, one-to-none voiced lines, Sunbow characters I brought up, as much as say, BW or Animated fans literally just wanting their core main casts.

>>136679013
Don't be bitter, anon.


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[User]
>>136678900
>seems we're both right?
no, that version of Lugnut was intended as a G1 guy. That's it. You're wrong

[Assistant]
>>136678976
Having actually engaged with multiple corners of the franchise including G1, I somehow doubt that G1-only fans care about the types of single-episode, one-to-none voiced lines, Sunbow characters I brought up, as much as say, BW or Animated fans literally just wanting their core main casts.

>>136679013
Don't be bitter, anon.


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>>136645253 (OP)
Don't you have better things to do than to defend shitty 80s cartoons to people less than half your age?

[Assistant]
>>136678980
>zoomie mad because no one likes his aughts garbage


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
>>136645253 (OP)
Don't you have better things to do than to defend shitty 80s cartoons to people less than half your age?

[Assistant]
>>136678980
Don't you have anything better to do than troon out over things that existed before you were an itch in your daddy's nutsack?


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
>>136678291
It's... literally an extension of the RotF line, though.
Don't be such a hater bro. Movie designs for the first two films fuck hard.

>>136678244
(You)

[Assistant]
>>136678427
>It's... literally an extension of the RotF line, though.
They went on record that they designed a lot of those non-movie 2010/HFTD releases to fit into the Classics line. Lugnut's wavemate was literally G1 Grapple.


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
>>136678980
Don't you have anything better to do than troon out over things that existed before you were an itch in your daddy's nutsack?

[Assistant]
>>136679213
>troon
No one even mentioned trannies


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
>>136679213
>troon
No one even mentioned trannies

[Assistant]
>>136679297
Act like one, be called one. Not that difficult for most people to understand.


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
>>136678980
Don't you have anything better to do than troon out over things that existed before you were an itch in your daddy's nutsack?

[Assistant]
>>136679213
This. New millennium fags can't perceive things from the past so they lash out.


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User] Christ almighty, the culture war baters invaded. Thread was good while it lasted...

[Assistant]
>>136679254
>comes in acting like a tranny
>gets shocked when called out for it
You wanted war, you got it.


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
>>136679297
Act like one, be called one. Not that difficult for most people to understand.

[Assistant]
>>136679368
>Act like one, be called one.
Saying 80s cartoons suck isn't remotely related to trannies. Do they just live in your head rent free?


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[User]
>>136679368
>Act like one, be called one.
Saying 80s cartoons suck isn't remotely related to trannies. Do they just live in your head rent free?

[Assistant]
>>136679469
Why do they upset you so much you turn into a shrieking teen girl over them?


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
>>136679297
Act like one, be called one. Not that difficult for most people to understand.

[Assistant]
>>136679368
This. Oh but of course 00s fags would have the hardest time understanding this.


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
>>136679469
Why do they upset you so much you turn into a shrieking teen girl over them?

[Assistant]
>>136679560
1. Wasn't even the original guy you first responded to
2. How the fuck is that even screeching?
I'm genuinely confused on how that remark would somehow equal trannies?


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
>>136679560
1. Wasn't even the original guy you first responded to
2. How the fuck is that even screeching?
I'm genuinely confused on how that remark would somehow equal trannies?

[Assistant]
>>136679620
>2. How the fuck is that even screeching?
Hmmmmm.
>Don't you have better things to do than to defend shitty 80s cartoons to people less than half your age?
Sounds like a tantrum to me.


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
>>136679560
1. Wasn't even the original guy you first responded to
2. How the fuck is that even screeching?
I'm genuinely confused on how that remark would somehow equal trannies?

[Assistant]
>>136679620
Dude stop responding. It's obviously the same fucking guy responding to all of these, pretending to be an epic 80s dude dabbing on younger people because he wants to bait us into culture warring, despite the fact this thread had actually been very chill with people sharing their favorite aspects of the franchise, until a few hours ago.


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
>>136679469
Why do they upset you so much you turn into a shrieking teen girl over them?

[Assistant]
>>136679560
Because as OP pointed out, Transformers is better than anything produced in those lameass decades.
These are the same trannies who make fun of G1 fans with TRUKK NOT MUNKEY.


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[User]
>>136679620
Dude stop responding. It's obviously the same fucking guy responding to all of these, pretending to be an epic 80s dude dabbing on younger people because he wants to bait us into culture warring, despite the fact this thread had actually been very chill with people sharing their favorite aspects of the franchise, until a few hours ago.

[Assistant]
>>136679678
>because he wants to bait us into culture warring
You're the one who started shitting himself about someone else "defending shitty 80s cartoons to people less than half your age". You being incapable of understanding anything doesn't make things bad.


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[User]
>>136679560
Because as OP pointed out, Transformers is better than anything produced in those lameass decades.
These are the same trannies who make fun of G1 fans with TRUKK NOT MUNKEY.

[Assistant]
>>136679708
>TRUKK NOT MUNKEY
Which is especially hilarious because G1 had Apeface.


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>>136679678
>because he wants to bait us into culture warring
You're the one who started shitting himself about someone else "defending shitty 80s cartoons to people less than half your age". You being incapable of understanding anything doesn't make things bad.

[Assistant]
>>136679712
I'm really not. (You).


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[User]
>>136679708
>TRUKK NOT MUNKEY
Which is especially hilarious because G1 had Apeface.

[Assistant]
>>136679745
And it was leagues better than Optimus Primal


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
>>136679712
I'm really not. (You).

[Assistant]
>>136679758
Yet you're jumping to his defense and echoing him.


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>>136679745
And it was leagues better than Optimus Primal

[Assistant]
>>136679775
what a story


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[User]
>>136679758
Yet you're jumping to his defense and echoing him.

[Assistant]
>>136679797
Literally fucking who?


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>>136677171
Believe it or not, there exist characters that AREN'T from G1. Shocking, I know!

It was only a few years ago that they started taking fucking Beast Wars seriously again, and only this year that they've been acknowledging Armada and WfC/FoC exist. At the same time, they're also butchering Animated and Prime characters into terrible "G1-style" versions, which nobody asked for...

I want characters from Victory (that aren't prohibitively-expensive crowdfunds), Beast Wars that don't have photo-realistic animal modes INCLUDING BW II/Neo, more RiD2000 characters since they barely fucking acknowledge it, more comic characters from Marvel/Dreamwave/IDW alike and Armada, Galaxy Force, the different video games, animation-accurate Animated and Prime characters, FUCKING HELL do Rescue Bots characters in the mainline for once!!
I don't want fucking Ariel from that one G1 prequel episode, or an army of Junkions (even if the latter are apparently really good).

[Assistant]
>>136677400
It's all about two things, demand and nostalgia (which triggers demand). Beast Wars got a big push because Beast Wars fans just entered the age range of adults with presumably steady/disposable income and heavy nostalgia.

G1 stuff is just always in demand, but Jap G1 (and BW stuff too) never came out in the US show wise or toy wise so it pretty much does away with the nostalgia appeal for US markets, so those releases are probably always gonna be limited to select characters. I would expect more Unicron Trilogy and Animated in the incoming years as those fans age up. RiD01 is tricky because it's not just Hasbro who doesn't acknowledge it, it's the fanbase too lol all anyone seems to care about is Sky Byte, and occasionally Scourge.

As for the shitload of G1, I really don't mind it, for one thing this is literally the first time many of these characters are getting new toys since their original and I think they deserve it, but also even for the big boys you gotta remember what CHUG was like before more recent times. It wasn't accuracy based at all but more "reinventions", were some of those toys good? Yeah, but imagine picrel being your only option for G1 Prime, by today's standards that doesn't really sit well. Hell, a total fan favorite like Soundwave has had zero G1 based toys not counting MP until pretty recently.

>>136677573
>>136677833
>>136678291
>>136678575
I just gotta say, regardless of whatever that Lugnut was supposed to be, it's hard to call it "G1ified", it has fuckin monster feet still, so if it was supposed to fit in with G1 designs, they didn't really succeed, not in the same way they G1ify modern characters.

>>136679712
In fairness OP only started this thread to be a bait thread, he stole this from that shitty Ben 10 thread shitting on scifi shows. Really amazing it's had good discussion for the most part.


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
>>136677400
>they're also butchering Animated and Prime characters into terrible "G1-style" versions, which nobody asked for...

People loved it in 2010

[Assistant]
>>136677400
It's all about two things, demand and nostalgia (which triggers demand). Beast Wars got a big push because Beast Wars fans just entered the age range of adults with presumably steady/disposable income and heavy nostalgia.

G1 stuff is just always in demand, but Jap G1 (and BW stuff too) never came out in the US show wise or toy wise so it pretty much does away with the nostalgia appeal for US markets, so those releases are probably always gonna be limited to select characters. I would expect more Unicron Trilogy and Animated in the incoming years as those fans age up. RiD01 is tricky because it's not just Hasbro who doesn't acknowledge it, it's the fanbase too lol all anyone seems to care about is Sky Byte, and occasionally Scourge.

As for the shitload of G1, I really don't mind it, for one thing this is literally the first time many of these characters are getting new toys since their original and I think they deserve it, but also even for the big boys you gotta remember what CHUG was like before more recent times. It wasn't accuracy based at all but more "reinventions", were some of those toys good? Yeah, but imagine picrel being your only option for G1 Prime, by today's standards that doesn't really sit well. Hell, a total fan favorite like Soundwave has had zero G1 based toys not counting MP until pretty recently.

>>136677573
>>136677833
>>136678291
>>136678575
I just gotta say, regardless of whatever that Lugnut was supposed to be, it's hard to call it "G1ified", it has fuckin monster feet still, so if it was supposed to fit in with G1 designs, they didn't really succeed, not in the same way they G1ify modern characters.

>>136679712
In fairness OP only started this thread to be a bait thread, he stole this from that shitty Ben 10 thread shitting on scifi shows. Really amazing it's had good discussion for the most part.


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
>>136677573
Firstly, that's Movie-style :^]
But important thing is because 2010 was just a year after the Animated toyline proper. Those original Animated toys were easy to get if you wanted them, making this a welcome unique idea.

Now it's been almost 15 years.

[Assistant]
>>136677400
It's all about two things, demand and nostalgia (which triggers demand). Beast Wars got a big push because Beast Wars fans just entered the age range of adults with presumably steady/disposable income and heavy nostalgia.

G1 stuff is just always in demand, but Jap G1 (and BW stuff too) never came out in the US show wise or toy wise so it pretty much does away with the nostalgia appeal for US markets, so those releases are probably always gonna be limited to select characters. I would expect more Unicron Trilogy and Animated in the incoming years as those fans age up. RiD01 is tricky because it's not just Hasbro who doesn't acknowledge it, it's the fanbase too lol all anyone seems to care about is Sky Byte, and occasionally Scourge.

As for the shitload of G1, I really don't mind it, for one thing this is literally the first time many of these characters are getting new toys since their original and I think they deserve it, but also even for the big boys you gotta remember what CHUG was like before more recent times. It wasn't accuracy based at all but more "reinventions", were some of those toys good? Yeah, but imagine picrel being your only option for G1 Prime, by today's standards that doesn't really sit well. Hell, a total fan favorite like Soundwave has had zero G1 based toys not counting MP until pretty recently.

>>136677573
>>136677833
>>136678291
>>136678575
I just gotta say, regardless of whatever that Lugnut was supposed to be, it's hard to call it "G1ified", it has fuckin monster feet still, so if it was supposed to fit in with G1 designs, they didn't really succeed, not in the same way they G1ify modern characters.

>>136679712
In fairness OP only started this thread to be a bait thread, he stole this from that shitty Ben 10 thread shitting on scifi shows. Really amazing it's had good discussion for the most part.


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
>>136677833
If that was movie style it would be an entirely grey mess of pointy parts

[Assistant]
>>136677400
It's all about two things, demand and nostalgia (which triggers demand). Beast Wars got a big push because Beast Wars fans just entered the age range of adults with presumably steady/disposable income and heavy nostalgia.

G1 stuff is just always in demand, but Jap G1 (and BW stuff too) never came out in the US show wise or toy wise so it pretty much does away with the nostalgia appeal for US markets, so those releases are probably always gonna be limited to select characters. I would expect more Unicron Trilogy and Animated in the incoming years as those fans age up. RiD01 is tricky because it's not just Hasbro who doesn't acknowledge it, it's the fanbase too lol all anyone seems to care about is Sky Byte, and occasionally Scourge.

As for the shitload of G1, I really don't mind it, for one thing this is literally the first time many of these characters are getting new toys since their original and I think they deserve it, but also even for the big boys you gotta remember what CHUG was like before more recent times. It wasn't accuracy based at all but more "reinventions", were some of those toys good? Yeah, but imagine picrel being your only option for G1 Prime, by today's standards that doesn't really sit well. Hell, a total fan favorite like Soundwave has had zero G1 based toys not counting MP until pretty recently.

>>136677573
>>136677833
>>136678291
>>136678575
I just gotta say, regardless of whatever that Lugnut was supposed to be, it's hard to call it "G1ified", it has fuckin monster feet still, so if it was supposed to fit in with G1 designs, they didn't really succeed, not in the same way they G1ify modern characters.

>>136679712
In fairness OP only started this thread to be a bait thread, he stole this from that shitty Ben 10 thread shitting on scifi shows. Really amazing it's had good discussion for the most part.


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
>>136678427
Yeah, that's why they included him the the G1 comic used to advertise the figures at the time, because he was a movie guy.

[Assistant]
>>136677400
It's all about two things, demand and nostalgia (which triggers demand). Beast Wars got a big push because Beast Wars fans just entered the age range of adults with presumably steady/disposable income and heavy nostalgia.

G1 stuff is just always in demand, but Jap G1 (and BW stuff too) never came out in the US show wise or toy wise so it pretty much does away with the nostalgia appeal for US markets, so those releases are probably always gonna be limited to select characters. I would expect more Unicron Trilogy and Animated in the incoming years as those fans age up. RiD01 is tricky because it's not just Hasbro who doesn't acknowledge it, it's the fanbase too lol all anyone seems to care about is Sky Byte, and occasionally Scourge.

As for the shitload of G1, I really don't mind it, for one thing this is literally the first time many of these characters are getting new toys since their original and I think they deserve it, but also even for the big boys you gotta remember what CHUG was like before more recent times. It wasn't accuracy based at all but more "reinventions", were some of those toys good? Yeah, but imagine picrel being your only option for G1 Prime, by today's standards that doesn't really sit well. Hell, a total fan favorite like Soundwave has had zero G1 based toys not counting MP until pretty recently.

>>136677573
>>136677833
>>136678291
>>136678575
I just gotta say, regardless of whatever that Lugnut was supposed to be, it's hard to call it "G1ified", it has fuckin monster feet still, so if it was supposed to fit in with G1 designs, they didn't really succeed, not in the same way they G1ify modern characters.

>>136679712
In fairness OP only started this thread to be a bait thread, he stole this from that shitty Ben 10 thread shitting on scifi shows. Really amazing it's had good discussion for the most part.


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
>>136679678
>because he wants to bait us into culture warring
You're the one who started shitting himself about someone else "defending shitty 80s cartoons to people less than half your age". You being incapable of understanding anything doesn't make things bad.

[Assistant]
>>136677400
It's all about two things, demand and nostalgia (which triggers demand). Beast Wars got a big push because Beast Wars fans just entered the age range of adults with presumably steady/disposable income and heavy nostalgia.

G1 stuff is just always in demand, but Jap G1 (and BW stuff too) never came out in the US show wise or toy wise so it pretty much does away with the nostalgia appeal for US markets, so those releases are probably always gonna be limited to select characters. I would expect more Unicron Trilogy and Animated in the incoming years as those fans age up. RiD01 is tricky because it's not just Hasbro who doesn't acknowledge it, it's the fanbase too lol all anyone seems to care about is Sky Byte, and occasionally Scourge.

As for the shitload of G1, I really don't mind it, for one thing this is literally the first time many of these characters are getting new toys since their original and I think they deserve it, but also even for the big boys you gotta remember what CHUG was like before more recent times. It wasn't accuracy based at all but more "reinventions", were some of those toys good? Yeah, but imagine picrel being your only option for G1 Prime, by today's standards that doesn't really sit well. Hell, a total fan favorite like Soundwave has had zero G1 based toys not counting MP until pretty recently.

>>136677573
>>136677833
>>136678291
>>136678575
I just gotta say, regardless of whatever that Lugnut was supposed to be, it's hard to call it "G1ified", it has fuckin monster feet still, so if it was supposed to fit in with G1 designs, they didn't really succeed, not in the same way they G1ify modern characters.

>>136679712
In fairness OP only started this thread to be a bait thread, he stole this from that shitty Ben 10 thread shitting on scifi shows. Really amazing it's had good discussion for the most part.


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[User]
>>136679620
>2. How the fuck is that even screeching?
Hmmmmm.
>Don't you have better things to do than to defend shitty 80s cartoons to people less than half your age?
Sounds like a tantrum to me.

[Assistant]
>>136679671
So how is OP not throwing a tantrum when he's shitting on the 90s and 00s?


[System] You are an anonymous message board user. You are opinionated and use informal language. You discuss various topics.

[User]
>>136677400
It's all about two things, demand and nostalgia (which triggers demand). Beast Wars got a big push because Beast Wars fans just entered the age range of adults with presumably steady/disposable income and heavy nostalgia.

G1 stuff is just always in demand, but Jap G1 (and BW stuff too) never came out in the US show wise or toy wise so it pretty much does away with the nostalgia appeal for US markets, so those releases are probably always gonna be limited to select characters. I would expect more Unicron Trilogy and Animated in the incoming years as those fans age up. RiD01 is tricky because it's not just Hasbro who doesn't acknowledge it, it's the fanbase too lol all anyone seems to care about is Sky Byte, and occasionally Scourge.

As for the shitload of G1, I really don't mind it, for one thing this is literally the first time many of these characters are getting new toys since their original and I think they deserve it, but also even for the big boys you gotta remember what CHUG was like before more recent times. It wasn't accuracy based at all but more "reinventions", were some of those toys good? Yeah, but imagine picrel being your only option for G1 Prime, by today's standards that doesn't really sit well. Hell, a total fan favorite like Soundwave has had zero G1 based toys not counting MP until pretty recently.

>>136677573
>>136677833
>>136678291
>>136678575
I just gotta say, regardless of whatever that Lugnut was supposed to be, it's hard to call it "G1ified", it has fuckin monster feet still, so if it was supposed to fit in with G1 designs, they didn't really succeed, not in the same way they G1ify modern characters.

>>136679712
In fairness OP only started this thread to be a bait thread, he stole this from that shitty Ben 10 thread shitting on scifi shows. Really amazing it's had good discussion for the most part.

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>>136679849
>In fairness OP only started this thread to be a bait thread, he stole this from that shitty Ben 10 thread shitting on scifi shows. Really amazing it's had good discussion for the most part.
Yeah, TF fans actually stepped up for once and made a better thread out of a shit op rather than shitting on slice of life cartoons.


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[User]
You know what, you might as well bring up Earthspark if you want to Culture War bait people. At least it's relevant.

Still not as bad as Beast Machines but it looks dreadfully dull somehow.

[Assistant]
>>136679866
Earthspark was a step up from the garbage we had up until then


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>>136679620
Dude stop responding. It's obviously the same fucking guy responding to all of these, pretending to be an epic 80s dude dabbing on younger people because he wants to bait us into culture warring, despite the fact this thread had actually been very chill with people sharing their favorite aspects of the franchise, until a few hours ago.

[Assistant]
>>136679678
>t. Tr@nny