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| From: wcs@anchor.ho.att.com (Bill Stewart +1-908-949-0705) | |
| Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more. | |
| Organization: Your typical phone company involved in your typical daydream | |
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| Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 06:15:57 GMT | |
| Message-ID: <WCS.93Apr19011557@rainier.ATT.COM> | |
| In-Reply-To: brad@clarinet.com's message of 17 Apr 93 06:13:26 GMT | |
| References: <1993Apr17.032828.14262@clarinet.com> <tcmayC5M2xv.JEx@netcom.com> | |
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| In article <1993Apr17.061326.16130@clarinet.com> brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton) writes: | |
| Once it hits land you can record it if you have telco access. The | |
| telco isn't supposed to give that without a warrant. That's the rule today. | |
| But even so, the evidence would not be admissible, I think, unless the | |
| judge so ordered. I think that even interception of the crypttext | |
| without a warrant would be illegal. Cops can't record today's plain | |
| cellular calls and then ask a judge, "Hey, can we have permission to | |
| listen to those tapes?" can they? | |
| How long do you think it will be before it becomes legal for the | |
| police to record encrypted conversations "It's not violating your | |
| privacy because we can't read the encryption without a warrant", with the usual | |
| good-faith exception if they accidentally record a non-encrypted conversation. | |
| Besides, it's covered by the Drug Exception to the Fourth Amendment... | |
| -- | |
| # Pray for peace; Bill | |
| # Bill Stewart 1-908-949-0705 wcs@anchor.att.com AT&T Bell Labs 4M312 Holmdel NJ | |