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Италианска Северна Африка Колонията Италианска Северна Африка (на италиански: Africa Settentrionale Italiana) е съвкупност от територии и колонии, контролирани от Кралство Италия в Северна Африка от 1911 г. до Втората световна война. Съдържание История[редактиране | редактиране на кода] Колонията е съществувала в две фази: 1911-1934 като Триполитания и Киренайка и от 1934 г. като Италианска Северна Африка, но често наричана и Либия. Италианският диктатор Бенито Мусолини през 1939 г., нарича бреговете на Либия "Четвърти бряг" (Quarta Sponda) на т.нар. "Велика (Имперска) Италия". Велика Италия включвала територии освен тези, за които претендирали иредентистите (Корсика, Ница, Далмация, Малта) и други средиземноморски територии, населени с италианци, включително и северна Либия. През 1940 - 1943 г., по време на Втората световна война, Италия прави опит да завладее Египет и Тунис. Първоначалните военни успехи на Оста в Северна Африка позволява на Италия да окупира голяма част от западен Египет в периода 1941 - 1942 г. и Тунис през 1942-1943 г. Всички владения на Италия преминават под контрола на англо-американските войски през 1943 г. и на практика Италианска Северна Африка престава да съществува. Колонии и територии в състава на Италианска Северна Африка[редактиране | редактиране на кода] От 1912 до 1927 г., Италианска Северна Африка се състои от самостоятелните Италианска Триполитания и Италианска Киренайка. През 1934 г. те са обединени в една колония - Италианска Либия. През 1939 г. крайбрежната северна част е "вкарана" в т.нар. "Велика Италия", а южната (Сахара) остава колониална територия под военен контрол. От 1942-1943 и Тунис е добавен към т.нар. "Велика Италия". 1927 - 1934[редактиране | редактиране на кода] 1934 - 1941[редактиране | редактиране на кода] - Италианска Либия
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Talk:Italian Libya Contents World War 2[edit] Is there a "Main" article for "Libya in WW2" similar to Military history of Egypt during World War II or Tunisian Campaign? The section here is nowhere near comprehensive. Roger (talk) 09:41, 4 February 2011 (UTC) - If you want, Roger, create the article Allied occupation (1943–1951), with references to WWII in Libya.... For me the article "Italian Libya" is well done as it is now. BD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.77.198.199 (talk) 15:32, 20 February 2011 (UTC) Moslem[edit] The article uses the word "moslem" a lot. Is this referring to a group or is it now just a misspelling of Muslim, meaning followers of the religion of Islam? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.254.162.192 (talk) 19:32, 21 February 2011 (UTC) Moslem is an older way of spelling Muslim. Both are technically right but in recent years most publications have switched to using Muslim. The word "Moslem" in Arabic has a connotation for evil. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.108.237.139 (talk) 01:53, 23 February 2011 (UTC) What to do with the articles Italian Libya, Fourth Shore and Italian North Africa ?[edit] Actually, my goal is not to merge the 3 articles together, but at least two, and to focus the efforts into the Italian Libya article. In the Italian wikipedia "Fourth Shore" was redirected into Italian Libya, maybe we should do the same ? Some of the content of the Fourth Shore should then be merged into the Italian Libya article. Some of it is about Tunisia, but I found the article Italian Tunisians more comprehensive.--Kimdime (talk) 11:18, 3 June 2011 (UTC) - I'd say merge Italian North Africa and the Fourth Shore, the two articles are more about concepts of eventual colonization than about actual colonial history. Italian Libya is a well-defined and distinct topic, it certainly deserves an article on its own. Good luck with expanding it! Constantine ✍ 13:19, 3 June 2011 (UTC) - Hi, in this case, where would you put the content of the article "Fourth Shore"?--Kimdime (talk) 14:30, 3 June 2011 (UTC) - OK, following this discussion, I have merged parts of Fourth Shore into Italian Libya, and another one into Italian North Africa. Following that, I redirected Fourth Shore into Italian Libya --Kimdime (talk) 17:52, 6 June 2011 (UTC) - Sorry for the delayed reply, I agree with your moves. However, there should be at least some explanation of the Fourth Shore concept (specifically, the terminology section) in the Italian Libya article, since it redirects there. I'd suggest having a section titled "Fourth Shore" on the term. placing Libya within the context of Italian imperialism. Constantine ✍ 18:05, 6 June 2011 (UTC) - I totally agree, though I wouldn't call this section "Fourth Shore" but terminology. We could also explain there the use of Italian North Africa, Tripolitania, Cyrenaica. Though, what I'm looking for right now is some information about the use of Quarta Sponda. I've been reading that it was coinced by Gabriele d'Annunzio but I've asked Italian wikipedia to provide serious references. Anyway, feel free to edit the article, there is serious improvements to make. Regards--Kimdime (talk) 18:36, 6 June 2011 (UTC) - WOW! this is quite unbelievable ! found another article to merge : History of Libya as Italian colony--Kimdime (talk) 23:42, 6 June 2011 (UTC) - I totally agree, though I wouldn't call this section "Fourth Shore" but terminology. We could also explain there the use of Italian North Africa, Tripolitania, Cyrenaica. Though, what I'm looking for right now is some information about the use of Quarta Sponda. I've been reading that it was coinced by Gabriele d'Annunzio but I've asked Italian wikipedia to provide serious references. Anyway, feel free to edit the article, there is serious improvements to make. Regards--Kimdime (talk) 18:36, 6 June 2011 (UTC) - Sorry for the delayed reply, I agree with your moves. However, there should be at least some explanation of the Fourth Shore concept (specifically, the terminology section) in the Italian Libya article, since it redirects there. I'd suggest having a section titled "Fourth Shore" on the term. placing Libya within the context of Italian imperialism. Constantine ✍ 18:05, 6 June 2011 (UTC) - OK, following this discussion, I have merged parts of Fourth Shore into Italian Libya, and another one into Italian North Africa. Following that, I redirected Fourth Shore into Italian Libya --Kimdime (talk) 17:52, 6 June 2011 (UTC) - Hi, in this case, where would you put the content of the article "Fourth Shore"?--Kimdime (talk) 14:30, 3 June 2011 (UTC) Merging History of Libya as Italian colony into this article[edit] There is absolutely no need for another article mentioning exactly the same thing, therefore, I suggest another merge--Kimdime (talk) 00:11, 7 June 2011 (UTC) - I totally agree King Philip V of Spain (talk) 09:11, 13 May 2013 (UTC) - Be bold and merge it yourself. Vanjagenije (talk) 07:52, 10 July 2013 (UTC) Disagree. The article in question should be renamed "History of Italian Libya", but not merged.--21:54, 1 October 2013 (UTC) NB: The map needs to be amended. Kufra needs to be described as ceded in 1912 and not 1919. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.183.124.127 (talk) 19:41, 10 September 2014 (UTC) Italian North Africa[edit] Italian North Africa is cited many times in Italian history books as Africa Settentrionale Italiana (as can be found even in Italian wikipedia: it:Africa Settentrionale Italiana), and is related to the Italian East Africa named in Italian as Africa Orientale Italiana. I want to pinpoint that: (1)Italian Libya is related to Libya when was part of the Italian empire as a united country formed by Tripolitania-Cyrenaica-Fezzan, from 1934 to 1943. (2) Colonial Libya is related the conquest and colonization of what was then Tripolitania -Cyrenaica and the Libyan Sahara, from 1911 to 1934. (3) Fourth Shore is related to the coast of Italian Libya that was united to the Kingdom of Italy in 1938. Italian North Africa is related to Italian Libya PLUS Tunisia occupied by Italy in november 1942 PLUS territories of western Egypt occupied temporarily by Italy during WWII.... - B-Class Africa articles - Mid-importance Africa articles - B-Class Libya articles - Mid-importance Libya articles - WikiProject Libya articles - WikiProject Africa articles - C-Class former country articles - WikiProject Former countries articles - B-Class Italy articles - Mid-importance Italy articles - B-Class Arab world articles - Unknown-importance Arab world articles - WikiProject Arab world articles