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Important do not upgrade your IS-4 before... The new IS-4 has everything it needs but the upgraded gun. So save your experience and do not upgrade your old IS-4, you don't need to research the tracks, the engine, the guns, and the turret. if you just got it, until after the upgrade.all you need to research on the new IS-4 is the top gun. Also the new IS-4 will be nearly twice the cost of the old IS-4. about 3,500,000 for the old IS-4 and about 6,000,000 for the new one. So it will save you a lot of credits to purchase the old one if you can,but remember not to upgrade it. Please feel free to verify my discovery. Edited by john577, May 04 2012 - 07:45. Singleshot May 04 2012 john577, on May 04 2012 - 07:41, said: The new IS-4 has everything it needs but the upgraded gun. So save your experience and do not upgrade your old IS-4, you don't need to research the tracks, the engine, the guns, and the turret. if you just got it, until after the upgrade.all you need to research on the new IS-4 is the top gun. Also the new IS-4 will be nearly twice the cost of the old IS-4. about 3,500,000 for the old IS-4 and about 6,000,000 for the new one. So it will save you a lot of credits to purchase the old one if you can,but remember not to upgrade it. Please feel free to verify my discovery. .... sorry ... but you wrong ... if i dont upgrade in My old IS4 .. i just get a new stock IS8 .... and i need track.. turret ...... engine for my IS8 ... and the last thing is gun .for IS8 and IS4....... If i have IS4 elite .. my new IS8 also become elite ... Edited by Singleshot, May 04 2012 - 07:54. wardogz12 May 04 2012 IS-8 leads into the IS-7 so you want the upgrades to make it easyer Track/Turret/Engine/Guns. So pay now or later since you wont lose anything. If i recall you cant skip any of the gun line to unlock the IS-7. Edited by wardogz12, May 04 2012 - 08:14. PTwr May 04 2012 Tracks and Engine sums in about 50k experience. Provided you have BL-9 from before you need 250k experience to get IS-7. On such long run upgrades are welcomed. You can ease it by buying Enhanced Suspension for 500k credits and mount turret and S-70 before researching tracks. And there is great difference between having top cannon and not having it. To put it into user friendly form without numbers: I researched S-70 at premium account, after that it expired, however, my average experience per battle kept rising as firepower that top cannon provides almost doubles your experience income. After that came engine and tracks, which, according to my calculations, gave 20% boost to experience income. So go forth and upgrade if you want to get IS-7. Edited by PTwr, May 04 2012 - 08:02. WARTANK501 May 04 2012 wardogz12 May 04 2012 122 mm D-25T 175mm pen/390 dam Stock gun UberTank01 May 04 2012 PTwr May 04 2012 john577, on May 04 2012 - 08:36, said: Your way is just way to not enjoy Tier 10 IS-4 from the start. IS-8 will have researched same modules as your old IS-4 had. All experience saved up on IS-4 will be moved to IS-8. You will get IS-4 as Tier 10 with no experience at all. Research costs on IS-8 differs a bit from old IS-4, but after summing them all up it is almost same quantity. You will be playing Tier 9 anyway, or be struggling with stock IS-4 as Tier 10. Edited by PTwr, May 04 2012 - 08:59. So for someone who is grinding for his IS-4 to put anything other than what is needed to get the tank would be a waste of experience that could be used for the upgrade gun.so what I have been saying is for people who do not have the experience to get the tank at this time and are grinding for it.then you get the tank when you have the experience and money on or before Sunday. Don't waste experience to upgrade the IS-4 until you get the upgraded one. then the free experience you have can be used on the gun and doesn't go towards the IS-8.plus I don't see any reason to spend the experience on the 130mm gun when you can get the upgraded 122mm for less. And nothing else but the IS-7 uses that gun anyway (the 130mm) so it really won't help anyway wasting the experience on it. Edited by john577, May 04 2012 - 10:25. PTwr May 04 2012 Your choice is worse for one small reason, which seems to be very important for other posters writing in this topic ( including me ). Namely: IS-7+IS-4. Two very different tanks for clan wars. Source of this reason is hidden in Clan Wars. Having only one Top Tier machine greatly reduces your flexibility, currently you only own E-100 of top tiers which is the most situational top tier ( where situation = gold ammunition ), the more land your clan holds, the more battles happens in same time, which induces need for adaptation to changes. Even without tank locking player with multiple top tier tanks is much more valuable than player with only one or two. Maximum 100 players per clan, now try to field three teams at once, this requires 45 battle ready clan members. You need half of your clan to be online in same moment, without group of total maniacs it is hard to accomplish. Now we are getting to main point of program, selecting tanks for team. 15 players, one clan wars ready tank per one player, that takes away ability to setup team for selected strategy as you are forced to play with what you got. And what you will be stuck with? Two slow bricks with not very effective armor and artillery landing zone painted on roof. And IS-4 due to its cannon will have even smaller zone of usage than E-100. However IS-7 gives you nimble machine that allows you to adapt to situation, excluding teams of 15xE-100 with only gold loaded ( it happens, it hurts ) main composition of team is crossbreed of heavy tanks with mediums, currently we have IS-7, T110 and AMX 50B from that group. And thats the secret reason why we are suggesting heading for IS-7. To be useful in every Clan Wars team, not just depending from situation. Currently I have three top tier machines, E-50, T110, T30, and I am using each of them actively, as I happen to be one of core players of my clan I am present in most of clan battles, and wide selection of tanks allows me to adapt. Well, if you just prefer to play random battles, then do as you wish, but as you are part of Clan participating in Global Conquest, then think about being useful in Clan Wars. Choose is yours, solo lowbie stomping with your new shiny tier 10 or organized warfare together with your friends(?). PTwr May 04 2012 Its HEAT, which makes it a bit worse than T30 APCR if I am not mistaken. PTwr May 04 2012 Yippee! It can replace Maus/E-100 as tanker due to lower profile and better maneuverability, it have same HP as E-100 while it is more nimble and its gun can penetrate other tanks without using gold. So it is worth to give it a try. Gun is on par of T110 and IS-7, hull gives protection from every side, although rather average from front, it will be one of special task tanks, just like now Maus is "get there, hold it and get beaten to death, but buy us some time". Edited by PTwr, May 04 2012 - 12:54. Lt_Walke May 04 2012 quote from the development page: - IS-4 as tier 9 heavy is substituted with IS-8 as tier 9 heavy; - The current configuration of the IS-4 in the players’ garage changes to the equivalent configuration version of the IS-8 (see points 3-8 of case 1). If the 100mm “D-10T” gun is mounted onto IS-4, then it’s substituted with 122mm “BL-9” gun; - Ammunition mounted onto the IS-4 goes to the depot; - Consumables mounted onto the IS-4 go to the IS-8; - Equipment mounted onto the IS-4 is removed from the vehicle and goes to the depot without any losses for a player; - Players get a 100% trained crew with an equivalent training of the IS-4 for the IS-8, but without additional skills or perks; - Players get one slot for the vehicle for free in garage; - Players get the IS-4 of tier 10 with available and mounted 122mm “M-62-T2” gun without additional modules or consumables; - The IS-4 tier 9 crew gets new abilities as per point 11 of Case 1 and goes to the IS-4 tier 10; - Camouflage mounted onto IS-4 tier 9, goes to IS-4 tier 10 and to IS-8. The expiration date of the camo for both tanks (IS-4 and IS-8) stays the same as it was for the IS-4 on tier 9 at the moment of the substitution. 'Edit' Hahaha, reread the post. The IS8 gets the BL9 if the IS4 has the D10T and then gets the M62. My bad... TheDawg May 04 2012 john577, on May 04 2012 - 10:19, said: you made me laff!! +1 for you!
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nophun, on 05 April 2012 - 05:22 PM, said: Nacrt procedure zamjene modula za IS-4 Ukoliko ste imali istražen motor za IS-4, isti motor će biti istražen za novi IS-4 i IS-8. Radio, kupole i gusjenice će biti tretirani na isti način. IS-4 i IS-8 će imati iste module instalirane kao i stari IS-4. Ili njihove nove verzije ukoliko dođe do promjene. Topovi će ukoliko bude promjena biti tretirani na isti način. jel to znači da kad is-4 ode u tier 10, da neće bit elite, kao svi t10 heavy? recimo, ako ja sa stock is-4 dočekam 7.3, on će mi bit stock tier 10 i morat ću grajndat module? pozdrav Vjerojatno će se samo top trebati istražiti, kao na E-100.