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Session Date: May 17th 2014 Laura and Andromeda at the board Pierre, Perceval, Chu, Possibility of Being, Data, Scottie, Kniall, Mr. Scott, Alana Joining via Skype: Nicolas, Aleana, Horseofadifferentcolor Q: [Introductions] (L) Hello. A: Hello. Xopvila of Cassiopaea. Q: (L) Okay. I'm going to start the discussion with what's on my mind. Actually, there are two things. The first thing is that I noticed that after the last session, a lot of people discussing it in the forum thread volunteered information about what they were doing to help to do this, to do that, and the other thing. We had the impression here that when the information came through that a person must put another on the step behind them, that that meant directly in terms of the Work... That it had to be someone on the ladder, or on the stairway, or on the path so to speak. So, could you clarify that? Is that, in fact, what was meant? That you meant somebody who was really asking and engaged in working on themselves, etc? A: More than that, it means that total engagement in energy exchange with the network. If a person benefits from the efforts of others and there is no return energy, there will be blocks of all sorts in their lives. Q: (L) Okay, when you say, "There will be blocks of all sorts in their lives"... Blocks of what kind? A: The blocks will reflect what it is that they are unable to give. If a person cannot be sincere, they will experience people in their personal lives who are not sincere with them. If a person devalues another's efforts, they will find their own efforts devalued. If you need to unblock a certain area of your life, make the effort to give what you want or need yourself. Q: (L) But are you talking particularly about people engaged in the Work, or just anybody in general? A: Anybody, but double in the work. Q: (L) Okay, does this line of questioning inspire any questions in ya'll? Can you think of anything else to ask on this topic? (Nicolas) This applies in the forum more than it would personally since we're not really interacting with too many people with the Work physically? A: There are many avenues to interact in the work!!! Q: [Discussion of letters and misspellings] (L) Just in case ya'll wonder, I'm messing up with calling out letters tonight for some reason. (Andromeda) Tired. (L) Yeah. We're going to try to synchronize here a little bit better. I need more tobacco. Okay, so you were saying that you don't how to interact with the Work because you're not physically present. And they said, "There are many ways..." and I would assume that means on the forum and with giving and doing and working on projects and so forth. Whatever's available in small ways, I think, for the moment. And then that opens the door for more direct interaction with others on “the path”, I would think. (Aleana) What about in your daily life? I mean, even if it's just talking about health issues with people... I mean, not forcing on it on them, but just putting things out there just to see what responses you get? Or is it more just confine it to the forum and work as much as you can on SOTT and the forum? A: The latter is very important in terms of balancing energy you have received. But you can also extend assistance to those around you if they are asking. Q: (L) Anything else? Is there anything else we need on this topic? (Chu) No, I mean, I think what they're saying is for example if you're disrespectful to people outside, or you devalue them or whatever, you're also not applying the Work principles. You have to be strategic. (L) Yeah, external considering and all that. (Chu) Yeah. (L) Okay, anything else on that? A: Many people are not fully aware of the amount of labor that goes and has gone into this network. For this reason they tend not to value lifetimes of work that go into presenting the fundamental lessons of your reality. And, if they do not see the value and return adequate energy, they find blocks in their path. Q: (L) Alright, that's enough on that. I mean, is there anything else you want to say about it? I mean, I kinda get it. A: Okay! But will readers "get it"? Q: (L) Well, I dunno. I suppose we'll find out! Okay, next thing that's on my mind: This afternoon I was responding to a post on the forum and the post was in the Political Ponerology book thread. As I was writing, it suddenly occurred to me that a problem that has been occupying my mind for many years suddenly became clear. The answer became clear. And the problem was this issue of communism vs. socialism vs. capitalism; the issue of which is best? Because of course I grew up in a capitalist system, but I see all the terrible things about it that have come to pass. I live now in a country that is largely socialist, and I see a lot of problems that exist in socialism. I've read a great deal about communistic systems, and I see that what happened in the communist countries didn't turn out too well. And I've read a lot of sociology, and I understand that without some kind of communism, early man would not have survived and evolved, so there’s a problem with how it was done in those communist countries. Even the early “Jesus people” practiced a form of communism, though fundies nowadays seem to have forgotten that. So, I've had this ongoing thing in my mind: Which part of which system to take and put together to make a so to say as close to perfect, benevolent system of economics and law that would serve humanity in the best way. And it suddenly was clear to me that it depends on scale. I thought that what you need is at the family tribal level - and I say more tribal because it's like extended family, close friends, etc. and people who are bound to each other by bonds of friendship and affection - should function in the communistic pattern. The next level would be the local community, or the town or whatever, which should function at the capitalistic level. Let's face it, there are things about capitalism that are very useful. People can go out from their homes and they make money for their families by work, there can be shops or factories or whatever that produce products that are then traded or bought/sold with other shops; then communities buy or sell or exchange with other communities, import, export, etc. The members of a family/tribe that work make money, bring it home and share equally all around, and several members of a family can work and take care of the whole family, including children, elderly, disabled. So we've got communism at the family level or the tribal level, capitalism at the community level where communities interact with other communities, and then at the higher government level it should be socialism because then socialism can be a policy-making body. It should be a body that collects a certain amount of funds in the form of a wealth tax and a small poll tax to ensure that everybody has free water, electricity, healthcare, that there are roads, that there is garbage collection, clean air, clean water... In other words, if the wealth tax and poll tax goes to an overarching government, then that government would provide these services to all the communities. And also, there would be local militias supported by these collected funds. So it seems to me that if you have these three different systems operating at different levels – the three scales - I mean, does anybody see any flaw in this? (Nicholas) I'm glad you brought it up because it's been on my mind for quite some time. How can we find the solution for society to live since we're trying to lead the way to a new formation. I'm really happy you brought that idea up, and it sounds pretty interesting. (Chu) Well, the only problem I see is if the clans or tribes, if some of them are all pathological... So you have tribes that are honest, communistic, but you have the pathological tribe, and when they go into the capitalistic system, are they going to try to destroy the others? (Perceval) Well, we were talking about it earlier, and we said that it doesn't matter what "ism" you come up with; if you have pathology and psychopathy involved, then it doesn't matter. It's gone, it's corrupted. (L) It's going to spoil it. Obviously, I think there would have to be a way worked into this where pathology could be weeded out by tribes even. An individual tribe would find a pathological individual within their group members and they would need to take care of that. But as Chu said, if the whole tribe is pathological, then they would begin to corrupt things at the capitalist level, which is very possible. But anyhow, I thought that this was kind of a clever solution, and then it was funny because after I talked to Joe about it, I thought, "Ya know, gee! how did I get that answer that just suddenly popped into my head when I was writing something?" It just was really cool. A: We have said long ago that "we are you in the future". That future is manifesting more strongly as a result of the increased frequency of communications. You begin to "tune in" several hours before sitting down to "chat". Also, be aware that this increase of time spent communicating is deepening and widening the conduit. Additionally, the "guests" add an extra dimension and strengthen the network around the planet. Q: (Horseofadifferentcolor) See, we were talking about that today. All of us wrote down a bunch of questions for ya'll. And as we wrote them down, some of the things that we've been contemplating for years just became completely clear. And we were wondering if we were kind of syncing into you, or kind of where that was coming from? A: An example of what we mean!! Q: (L) They're saying that what you just said is an example of what they meant in the previous answer about tuning in when the session is imminent. I guess it works for everyone as we continue to “groove”. (Horseofadifferentcolor) Oh, okay. (Aleana) Because it was like days ahead of time; I was feeling really blocked, and I couldn't push through it. And I just let the feelings come up, and then suddenly I like broke through it. I posted a few things on the forum and it didn't feel false. It felt like it was coming easily, and that I would move through it. So I dunno if it was the energy of them coming through, or whether just feeling the feelings was like, "Okay, I'm feeling them, but now I'm moving through it." Like I had to let the emotion come up, or... I wasn't sure if it was some of both, or which it was. A: This will happen more frequently, and for more attendees of these communications. Let's just hope that the proper value is placed on this effort so that it can continue! Q: (L) Okay. Now, ya'll said you had formulated some questions. You also said some of them were already answered. But were there any that were not that you would like to ask? (Nicholas) I have one. The Cassiopaeans talked about the idea that they would be transitioning through another constellation for transmitting. I dunno if it's happened yet. I think it was Leo or something like that? A: In process, wait for more! Q: (L) I think, "wait for more" means wait for some kind of news or information that will make that clear. If there was a supernova or something in, say, Leo, it could affect them and us superluminally, but we would not yet see it for a while. Or, any other place where there may be one... We could be getting the effects of it through the communication before there is a visual confirmation. Assuming that we're communicating superluminally, I think. That's just my theory. Is that theory close? A: Close enough. Q: (L) Another question? (Horseofadifferentcolor) I was kind of curious about Ukraine: the Cs once said in the past that Nazi Germany was a test run for everything that is happening today. Since the Nazis are kind of back in action over there, I was wondering if this is a continuation of what that was, or if it's just the US and their greed and their normal games? Or if there was something different about this Ukraine issue? A: A combination. There has long been survival of Nazi ideology in various places. It has been encouraged by similar forces in the USA and Israel. Q: (Horseofadifferentcolor) I have a personal question if that's alright. (L) Go for it. (Horseofadifferentcolor) My grandparents passed away recently, and I was just hoping they made it to where they need to go. A: There is some hesitancy on their parts, you can reassure them and encourage a proper transition. Q: (Horseofadifferentcolor) Are they staying here because of me? A: Partly, that is why you should give reassurance. Q: (Horseofadifferentcolor) Thank you. (Nicholas) I have a question about Gabor Mate's use of ayahuasca. Seems like he's pretty responsible and he may be onto something that seems to help. I was just curious if what he's doing is viable? A: He works with fairly desperate cases and situations, including his own. Thus the use of plant substances, as he does, can be likened to desperate measures when nothing else works or when time is of the essence. In some cases, as with using aspirin to break the cycle of pain, such things can be used once to break such a feedback loop and not be needed again. It can be rather like a "reset". But, be aware that true spiritual growth is not achieved this way. But if one simply needs a "reset" to normalize, this sort of thing may be beneficial. Q: [laughter] (L) Okay, I think we're going to have time for one more maybe. Scott) One with a short answer... (Aleana) Yes or no! (L) I'm kind of whupped out here. (Nicholas) I have kind of a personal question here, about how to maximize my FOTCM donations. I have an investment in the stock market that's not doing very well, and I'm wondering I should just bail out now or should I be patient and hope for some better returns? A: The future for stocks is not very good. Q: (Aleana) Is that in the near term, or is there a timing...? A: 11 months. Q: (Nicholas) I'm shorting the market, so I'm wondering if that's a good position to be in. (L) You never know. (Aleana) In one of the recent sessions, they said we should not keep our money in accounts. We should start buying useful things. If you've got something in a retirement account, is there a time limit? I'm thinking about retiring soon, and it's like I want to have something to live on, so should I just like pull it out, or? It's in money market, but I don't know what the timing is. (Horseofadifferentcolor) Buy a bunch of toilet paper with your retirement? [laughter] A: It isn't just "buying a bunch of toilet paper". The best investments would be into getting a community going. Q: (L) Yeah, because then if you're in the community, if you can't work or there are other people who can, there are younger people... Because communities should be made of all age ranges and different skills so that if there's somebody who is sick or disabled or elderly, they're part of the community, they've invested in it, and they are taken care of. (Aleana) Well, that's my plan, because I want to be a part of the North Carolina community. But I want to come with something, but if I should pull it out and invest it all in the community and do whatever we need and not worry about having money for the future, that's fine. (L) Yeah, because... Well, let's ask that. How do you want to ask it? (Aleana) I was thinking about paying off my car and taking the rest of it and investing it in the house and then if I get social security, great, but if not I can work. I'm not real sure about how to say that. I mean, is that a good plan? A: Very good in fact because there will soon be no money. Notice that banks are already making gestures toward confiscating funds. Q: (L) Yeah. And that's true, they are. (Perceval) There was a story in the news recently about in the UK that the government wanted to pass a law saying that the government could take money out of people's bank accounts if they hadn't paid their taxes. And of course, there are all of these big corporations that pay no taxes whatsoever, and the government doesn't care or even see that was money owing to them. But they're focusing on the ordinary little people who owe a couple of grand in taxes, and they're trying to get to the point where they can take... A: That is a "gesture". It will become more blatant much faster. The advantage of community is that it can be done under corporation law and that is much less likely to be dismantled because it is the legal protection that the elite use. Q: (Perceval) The point being that it's a good idea to put your money into corporations these days. Scott) But not the stock market. (Perceval) Not the corporations you might think of! There are a few unique corporations in the USA... [laughter] Actually, there are only two... (Chu) But what about owning stuff but thanks to a bank loan? People who make a loan from a bank? Is that such a good idea if they're gonna start... (Perceval) If it's secured against... (Chu) They'll take your house, so... (Perceval) A mortgage, for example. (Chu) People who have mortgages are not in a much better position. You have to come up with the funds yourself. (Perceval) Like Aleana was saying, she has a retirement fund or a lump sum, it shouldn't be sitting in a bank or in stocks because they're gonna loot that. (Chu) But when you borrow money, you're not putting money straight up, but you're still tied up to the bank. (L) Then you make your payments. You be prepared to be able to pay it. If you borrow money, you make sure that you're gonna be able to make the payments one way or another, I would say. (Perceval) Only problem is that in a kind of a crisis situation, you have massive inflation and stuff. Who knows what would happen. (L) Well, another thing is if you've invested in a property and a place to live and stuff... "Stuff" is always useful. And that's where even if things got really rough, you could probably sell stuff or trade stuff, or services or activities or do some kind of work or something and get the money to pay your bank loan - assuming you had a bank loan. (Andromeda) Also, if that's the only option you have in order to get a place, then... (L) I think that they'll go after property law much later if at all. They don't want to go after property law either because that's another thing that the elite use: property law. (Perceval) They own half the country. (L) There are two things operative here: corporation law, if you have a corporation - and I think that's one of the things that has protected us in a large sense because we started with a corporation and we have attorneys. They don't want to go after us. Even our fiscal audit, they backed down because it's American corporate law. Just backed off! You cry, "Corporation! Tax Treaty!" and they just take their hands off. Because they do not want to set a precedent that would screw THEM over if it was used against them. Of course, American law is very much precedent oriented. And if somebody goes into the court and says here's this obvious precedent, this happened in blah blah case, then they're screwed. These are kind of things we don't talk about very much in public. We have the corporations, we do tax returns, we go through the whole nine yards. Everything to make the tax man/corporate man happy, and they don't bother us at that level. The French really stepped in it when they launched an audit. (Perceval) The thing is, it's really a bad idea for anybody to have money in stocks right now. Probably everybody's been burned in the stock market. The way it works is they want ordinary people to their money into stocks so that they [the elites] can get rich. The elites invest in stocks as well, but they invest a load of money, the price rises, and then they invest again on short sells because they know it's gonna drop because they're gonna pull all their stocks out ten days later. It's totally rigged in favor of them. (L) Nicholas, are you invested in short sells? (Nicholas) Yeah, it's a VXX index, which is short the market. So, if the market goes down, then my stock will go up. (L) Well, then maybe you better leave it there for a while. (Nicholas) Yeah, I might. Be patient! (L) Yeah, I think so. If you're invested in shorts, keep it. Alright, any last questions? (Aleana) Did you get the paper plate holders? (L) Oh YES! And we are so thankful for them! (Andromeda) We've already use them. Twice! It hasn't been very good weather yet, so we've only eaten outside twice. (L) Yeah, you noticed I'm wearing a sweater. (Aleana) Yeah, it's hot here. (Horseofadifferentcolor) One day last week it got cold, and I had to break out a hoodie in May. It was really rare. (Aleana) Yeah, it went down to 45 F last week. (L) That's about what it is every night here. (Nicholas) I can't wait! [laughter] (L) Well, we'll keep ya'll posted on everything. So, let's say goodnight and sayonara because I'm about whupped here. (Aleana) Yeah, I can see that now. Just transcribing this, it's tiring! (Horseofadifferentcolor) It's really amazing to see, so thank you do much! (Aleana) This was wonderful! (Nicholas) Thank you! [kisses to everybody, goodnights, goodbyes] Q: (L) I guess we're gonna say goodnight unless you have anything you wanna say to us personally. A: Good show! Goodbye. (L) That was kind of weird... (Andromeda) It felt like there was a LOT of energy, like they had a lot to say. But that maybe we were just too tired to keep up with it! END OF SESSION
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Laura (L) i Andromeda za pločom Prisutni: Pierre, Perceval, Chu, Possibility of Being, Data, Scottie, Kniall, Mr. Scott, Alana Pridružili se preko Skype-a: Nicolas, Aleana, Horseofadifferentcolor Pitanje (P): [predstavljanje] (L) Pozdrav. Odgovor (O): Pozdrav. Xopvila od Kasiopeje. (L) U redu. Počet ću diskusiju s onim što mi je na umu. Zapravo, to su dvije stvari. Prva je ta da sam primijetila da je poslije prošle sesije puno ljudi diskutiralo o njoj na forumu o tome što oni čine kako bi se pomoglo napraviti ovo, napraviti ono,… itd. Ovdje smo imali dojam u vezi te informacije da osoba mora staviti drugu osobu na stepenicu iza sebe, da se to direktno odnosi na Rad… Da bi taj netko morao biti na ljestvama ili stepenicama, ili, takoreći, na putu. Dakle, možete li to malo pojasniti? Jeste li mislili na to? Jeste li mislili na nekoga tko stvarno traži pomoć i radi na sebi, itd.? O: Više nego to, to znači ukupnu angažiranost u razmjeni energije u mreži. Ako osoba ima koristi od truda drugih, a nema uzvraćene energije, stvorit će se blokade svih vrsta u njezinom životu. (L) U redu, kad kažete: “Stvorit će se blokade svih vrsta u njezinom životu”… Blokade koje vrste? O: Blokade će reflektirati ono što ta osoba nije u mogućnosti dati. Ako osoba ne može biti iskrena, ona će iskusiti ljude u svojem životu koji nisu iskreni s njom. Ako osoba umanjuje tuđi trud, ona će otkriti da i drugi umanjuju njen trud. Ako želiš odblokirati izvjesno područje u svojem životu, onda nastoj dati ono što želiš ili trebaš primiti. (L) Ali govorite li to konkretno za ljude koji sudjeluju u Radu ili općenito o bilo kome? O: Bilo kome, ali dvostruko važnije za one u radu. (L) U redu, inspirira li ovo neka pitanja kod nekoga? Možete li smisliti još neko pitanje u vezi ove teme? (Nicolas) To se odnosi više na forum nego na neposredan kontakt jer mi u Radu nismo baš u fizičkoj interakciji s puno ljudi? O: Postoji mnogo načina interakcije u radu!!! [diskusija o slovima i pravopisnim greškama] (L) Za slučaj da se pitate, večeras zbrkano ispisujem slova iz nekog razloga. (Andromeda) Umorna si. Pokušat ćemo se ovdje malo bolje sinhronizirati. Trebam još duhana. Dobro, dakle rekao si da ne znaš kako biti u interakciji u radu jer nisi fizički prisutan. I oni su rekli: “Postoji mnogo načina…” i pretpostavljam da se to odnosi na forum, te davanje i činjenje i rad na projektima, itd. Što god je moguće, u malim koracima, za sada. I onda to otvora vrata za direktniju interakciju s drugima na “putu”, barem tako mislim. (Aleana) Što je s našim svakodnevnim životima? Mislim, čak i ako je to samo razgovor u vezi zdravlja s ljudima… Mislim, ne treba nametati to njima, ali jednostavno staviti informacije svima na znanje i vidjeti kakav odaziv dobijete? Ili to treba ograničiti samo na forum i raditi koliko god možemo na SOTT-u i forumu? O: Ovo drugo je vrlo važno radi balansiranja energije koju ste primili. Ali vi također možete proširiti vašu pomoć onima koji su oko vas, ako to oni traže. (L) Još nešto? Još nešto u vezi ove teme? (Chu) Ne, ja mislim da ono što oni govore je da, na primjer, ako nemaš poštovanja prema drugim ljudima ili ako ih omalovažavaš ili slično, da to također znači da ti ne primijenjuješ principe Rada. Moraš imati strategiju. (L) Da, obazrivost prema van (prema drugima, op.prev.) i sve to. (Chu) Da. (L) U redu, još nešto u vezi toga? O: Mnogo ljudi nije u potpunosti svjesno količine truda koji ulazi i koji je ušao u ovu mrežu. Iz tog razloga oni imaju tendenciju da ne vrednuju cjeloživotni rad koji ulazi u predstavljanje fundamentalnih lekcija vašeg realiteta. I ako oni ne uvide vrijednost i ne vrate adekvatnu energiju, oni nailaze na blokade na svojim putovima. (L) Dobro, to je dosta o tome. Mislim, ima li još nešto što bi rekli u vezi toga? Mislim, na neki način, shvatila sam to. O: U redu! Ali hoće li i čitatelji “shvatiti”? (L) Pa, nemam pojma. Pretpostavljam da ćemo saznati! U redu, iduća stvar koja mi je na umu: danas popodne odgovarala sam na post na forumu, a post je bio u temi o Političkoj ponerologiji. Kad sam odgovarala na post, odjednom mi je problem, koji mi je okupirao misli godinama, postao jasan. Odgovor je postao jasan. Problem je bio odnos komunizma, socijalizma i kapitalizma – koji je najbolji od njih? Jer ja sam naravno odrasla u kapitalističkom sistemu, ali vidim i sve grozne stvari koje je on donio. Sada živim u državi koja je većinom socijalistička i vidim mnoge probleme koji egzistiraju u socijalizmu. Čitala sam mnogo o komunističkim sistemima, i vidim da ono što se dogodilo u komunističkim zemljama nije ispalo baš dobro. Pročitala sam mnogo knjiga o sociologiji i razumijem da bez nekog vida komunizma čovjek iz davnog doba ne bi preživio, niti bi se razvio, tako da je tu problem u tome kako je to učinjeno u tim komunističkim zemljama. Čak su i rani “Isusovi ljudi” prakticirali neku formu komunizma, iako su to današnji fundamentalisti izgleda zaboravili. I tako, imala sam tu misao na svom umu: “Koji dio, od kojeg sistema uzeti i sastaviti sve skupa kako bi se napravio takoreći skoro idealan, dobronamjerni sistem ekonomije i prava, koji bi služili čovječanstvu na najbolji način. I odjednom mi je sinulo da to ovisi o nivou. Pomislila sam na to da ono što trebate na nivou obitelji ili plemena – rekla bih više plemena jer je ono poput proširene obitelji, bliskih prijatelja, itd., i ljudi koji su vezani jedni za druge vezama prijateljstva i naklonosti – trebalo funkcionirati na komunističkim načelima. Idući nivo bi bila lokalna zajednica ili grad, koji bi trebali funkcionirati na kapitalističkom nivou. Priznajmo, postoje stvari kod kapitalizma koje su vrlo korisne. Ljudi mogu izaći iz svojih domova i zarađivati za svoj život pomoću rada, tu mogu postojati dućani, tvornice ili štogod što proizvodi proizvode koji se onda razmjenjuju, prodaju ili kupuju u drugim dućanima. Zajednice kupuju ili prodaju ili razmjenjuju sve te stvari s drugim zajednicama, uvoze, izvoze, itd. Članovi obitelji/plemena koji rade – zarade novac, donesu ga kući i podijele svima ravnomjerno. Nekoliko članova obitelji može raditi i brinuti se za čitavu obitelj, uključujući djecu, starije i nemoćne. I tako imamo komunizam na nivou obitelji ili plemena, kapitalizam na nivou zajednica gdje su one u međusobnoj interakciji s drugim zajednicama, i onda na višem nivou vlasti to bi trebao biti socijalizam jer on tada može biti zakonodavno tijelo. To bi trebalo biti tijelo koje sakuplja izvjesni iznos kapitala u formi poreza na bogatstvo i malih doprinosa kako bi se svima osigurala besplatna voda, struja, čisti zrak, zdravstvo, da se izgrade ceste, zbrinjava otpad… Drugim riječima, ako ti porezi idu toj sveobuhvatnoj vladi, onda bi ta vlada trebala pružiti te usluge svim zajednicama. A također bi trebala postojati i lokalna vojska koja bi se financirala iz tih sakupljenih poreza. Tako da mi to izgleda kao da imamo tri različita sistema koja djeluju na različitim nivoima – tri skale – mislim, da li netko vidi nekakvu manu u tome? (Nicholas) Drago mi je da si to iznijela jer je i meni to bilo na umu izvjesno vrijeme. Kako naći riješenje za društvo, jer tražimo način da organiziramo novi sistem. Zbilja sam sretan što si iznijela tu ideju na vidjelo, zvuči prilično interesantno. (Chu) Jedini problem kojeg ja vidim je taj da ako su neki klanovi ili plemena, ako su neki od njih skroz patološki… Dakle imate plemena koja su poštena, komunistička, ali ako postoji patološko pleme koje pređe u kapitalistički sistem, hoće li onda ono pokušati uništiti druge? (Perceval) Pa, razgovarali smo o tome ranije, i rekli smo da nije bitno koji “-izam” imate, jer ako imate u njima uključenu patologiju i psihopatiju, onda to nije bitno. To propada jer je korumpirano. (L) To će pokvariti sve. Očito, tu bi trebao postojati djelotvoran način na koji bi se patologija izbacivala iz tih plemena. Neko pleme bi uvidjelo da je neki patološki pojedinac u njihovoj grupi i oni bi to onda trebali riješiti. Ali kao što je Chu rekla, ako je čitavo pleme patološko, onda bi ono moglo korumpirati stvari na kapitalističkom nivou, što je vrlo vjerojatno. No u svakom slučaju, pomislila sam da je to nekakvo pametno rješenje, i poslije je bilo smiješno kad sam razgovarala s Joeom u vezi toga. Pomislila sam: “Zaboga! Kako li sam dobila taj odgovor koji je jednostavno uskočio u moju glavu dok sam pisala nešto?” To je bilo zbilja nevjerojatno. O: Davno smo već rekli da smo “mi – vi u budućnosti”. Ta budućnost se manifestira jače kao rezultat povećane frekvencije komunikacija. Počela si se “podešavati” nekoliko sati prije nego što si sjela da “čavrljaš”. Također budite svjesni da ovo povećavanje vremena provedenog u komuniciranju produbljuje i proširuje kanal. Dodatno, “gosti” dodaju ekstra dimenziju i jačaju mrežu po cijeloj planeti. (Horseofadifferentcolor) Vidite, razgovarali smo o tome danas. Svatko od nas je zapisao čitavu hrpu pitanja za vas. I kako smo ih zapisivali, neke stvari o kojima smo razmišljali godinama su postale potpuno jasne. I pitali smo se jesmo li na neki način bili sinhronizirani s vama, ili odakle je to došlo? O: To je primjer onoga na što smo mislili!!! (L) Kažu da si upravo dala primjer onoga na što su oni mislili u prethodnom odgovoru, u vezi podešavanja neposredno prije sesije. Nagađam da to djeluje na sve kako mi nastavljamo “proširivati kanal”. (Horseofadifferentcolor) Oh, u redu. (Aleana) Bilo je to kao danima unaprijed, osjećala sam se zbilja blokirano i nisam mogla proći kroz to. I jednostavno sam pustila da dođu osjećaji i onda sam se odjednom kroz to probila. Post-ala sam neke stvari na forum i to se nije činilo pogrešnim. Osjećala sam da to dolazi lako i da ću proći kroz to. Dakle, ne znam je li to prošla njihova energija ili je to više bilo poput: “U redu, osjećam ih, ali sada ja prolazim kroz to.” Kao da sam morala dopustiti da emocija dođe, ili… Nisam sigurna je li to ponešto od oboje, ili što je to bilo. O: To će se sve češće događati, i kod još više učesnika ovih komunikacija. Nadajmo se samo da će se ovaj trud adekvatno cijeniti tako da se on može nastaviti! (L) U redu. Sad, svi ste rekli da imate formulirana neka pitanja. Također ste rekli da su već dani odgovori na neka od njih. Ali ima li još nekih koja nisu i koja bi htjeli pitati? (Nicholas) Ja imam jedno. Kasiopejci su govorili o ideji da će prijeći na prijenos kroz drugu konstelaciju zvijezda. Nemam pojma je li se to već dogodilo već. Mislim da je to bio Lav ili nešto poput toga? O: U procesu, čekajte za još! (L) Mislim da “čekajte za još” znači čekajte neku vrstu novosti ili informacija koje će to pojasniti. Ako se dogodila supernova ili nešto u, recimo Lavu, to bi moglo utjecati na njih i na nas superluminalno, ali mi to ne bi vidjeli još neko vrijeme. Ili negdje na nekom drugom mjestu gdje bi mogla biti koja… Mi bi mogli osjećati efekte toga kroz komunikaciju prije pojave vizualne potvrde. Pretpostavljajući da mi komuniciramo superluminalno, barem tako mislim. To je samo moja teorija. Je li ona blizu? O: Dovoljno blizu. (L) Još neko pitanje? (Horseofadifferentcolor) Znatiželjna sam u vezi Ukrajine. Jednom su Kasiopejci rekli da je nacistička Njemačka bila test za sve što se danas događa. Budući da su se nacisti na neki način vratili u akciju tamo, pitam se je li ovo nastavak onoga što je onda bilo, ili je ovo samo SAD i njihova pohlepa i njihove uobičajene igre? Ili je tu nešto sasvim drugačije u vezi Ukrajine? O: Kombinacija. Dugo je postojao opstanak nacističke ideologije na raznoraznim mjestima. Nju su poticale slične sile koje postoje u SAD-u i Izraelu. (Horseofadifferentcolor) Imam osobno pitanje ako je to u redu. (L) Hajde, pitaj. (Horseofadifferentcolor) Moji djed i baka su nedavno preminuli i pitam se jesu li uspjeli doći kamo su i trebali otići. O: Postoji nešto oklijevanja s njihove strane, možeš ih uvjeriti i ohrabriti da naprave ispravnu tranziciju. (Horseofadifferentcolor) Jesu li oni ostali ovdje radi mene? O: Djelomično, i zbog toga im ti trebaš pružiti pomoć. (Horseofadifferentcolor) Hvala vam. (Nicholas) Imam pitanje u vezi Gaborovog Mateovog uzimanja ayahuasce. Čini se da je on prilično odgovoran i da bi mogao biti na tragu nečega što izgleda da je od pomoći. Znatiželjan sam je li to što on radi izvedivo? O: On radi s prilično očajnim slučajevima i situacijama, uključujući i vlastitu. Zbog toga, korištenje supstanci iz biljke, kao što on to čini, može se usporediti s očajničkim mjerama kad ništa drugo ne djeluje ili kad je vrijeme od izuzetne važnosti. U nekim slučajevima, kao je korištenje aspirina da bi prekinuli ciklus boli, takve stvari se mogu iskoristiti jednom da bi se prekinula takva povratna petlja i ne moraju se koristiti ponovo. To može biti nešto poput “resetiranja”. Ali budite svjesni da se istinski spiritualan rast ne postiže na taj način. Ali ako netko jednostavno treba “resetiranje” da bi se normalizirao, takva vrsta stvari može biti od koristi. [smijeh] (L) U redu, mislim da imamo vremena za još jedno pitanje. (Mr.Scott) Jedno s kratkim odgovorom… (Aleana) Da ili ne! (L) Nekako se osjećam izmučeno. (Nicholas) Imam osobno pitanje, o tome kako maksimizirati moje FOTCM donacije. Investirao sam na burzi gdje ne ide baš dobro i pitam se bih li trebao izići sada ili bih trebao biti strpljiv i nadati se nekim boljim zaradama? O: Budućnost za burze nije baš dobra. (Aleana) Hoće li to biti uskoro ili postoji vremenski okvir…? O: 11 mjeseci. (Nicholas) Bavim se short selling-om (“kratka prodaja, op. prev.) na tržištu, pa se pitam je li to dobra pozicija za biti u njoj. (L) Nikad ne znaš. (Aleana) U jednoj od nedavnih sesija rekli su da ne držimo novce na računima. Trebali bi početi kupovati korisne stvari. Ako imamo nešto u mirovinskom fondu, postoji li vremensko ograničenje za to? Mislim uskoro otići u mirovinu i želim imati nešto od čega ću živjeti. Pa, trebala bi to sve izvaditi, ili? To je na tržištu novca, ali nemam pojma dokle će trajati. (Horseofadifferentcolor) Kupiti hrpu toaletnog papira kad odeš u mirovinu? [smijeh] O: To nije samo “kupiti hrpu toaletnog papira”. Najbolje investicije bi bile u podržavanju funkcioniranja zajednice. (L) Da, jer ako ste u zajednici, i ako ne možete raditi – ima ljudi koji mogu, mlađi ljudi… Jer zajednice bi trebale sadržavati ljude svih starosnih skupina, ljude različitih vještina, tako da ako je netko bolestan ili nemoćan – on je dio zajednice, on je investirao u nju i ostali članovi se brinu oko njega. (Aleana) Hm, to je moj plan jer želim biti član zajednice iz Sjeverne Karoline. Ali želim doći s nečim, ako treba to sve izvaditi i investirati sve u zajednicu i učiniti sve što je potrebno s time, i da ne trebam mariti za novce u budućnosti, nema problema. (L) Da, jer… Pa, pitajmo to. Kako ćemo pitati to? (Aleana) Razmišljam o isplati svojeg automobila i ostatak novca investirati u kuću, te onda ako dobijem zdravstveno osiguranje – super – a ako ne, onda mogu raditi. Nisam sigurna kako to pitati. Mislim, je li to dobar plan? O: Vrlo dobar zapravo jer ubrzo neće postojati novac. Primijetite da banke već čine kretnje prema zapljeni novca. I to je istina, oni to počinju činiti. (Perceval) Nedavno je bila priča na vijestima kako je vlada u Velikoj Britaniji htjela donijeti zakon koji bi omogućio da vlada može uzeti novac s bankovnih računa građana, ukoliko oni ne plaćaju svoje poreze. I naravno, tu postoje sve te velike korporacije koje uopće ne plaćaju svoje poreze, ali vlada za to ne mari ili čak niti ne vidi da im ovi duguju za porez. Ali se oni fokusiraju na obične male ljude koji duguju neku siću za poreze, i žele doći do točke u kojoj mogu uzeti… O: To je “gesta”. Postat će očitije vrlo brzo. Prednost zajednice je ta da se to može učiniti pod korporacijskim zakonom, a to je manje vjerojatno osporiti jer je to legalna zaštita koju koristi elita. (Perceval) Poanta je da je ovih dana dobra ideja investirati svoje novce u korporacije. (Mr.Scott) Ali ne na burzi. (Perceval) Ne u korporacije na koje bi vi pomislili! Postoji nekoliko unikatnih korporacija u SAD-u… [smijeh] Zapravo, postoje samo dvije… (Chu) Ali što je s posjedovanjem stvari koje imamo zahvaljujući bankovnim kreditima? Ljudi koji su uzeli kredite u bankama? Je li to dobra ideja ako oni počnu… (Perceval) Ako je osigurano protiv… (Chu) Oni će uzeti tvoju kuću, pa… (Perceval) Hipoteka, na primjer. (Chu) Ljudi koji imaju hipoteke nisu u mnogo boljoj poziciji. Moraš naći način da sebe financiraš. (Perceval) Kao što je Aleana rekla, ona ima mirovinski fond ili osiguranu svotu, i to ne bi trebalo ostaviti da sjedi u banci ili na burzi jer će oni to zaplijeniti. (Chu) Ali kad ti posudiš novac, ti ne dobiješ direktno novac, ti si još uvijek vezan za banku. (L) Onda platite svoje. Pripremite se da budete u mogućnosti to platiti. Ako posudite novac, morate biti sigurni da ćete biti u mogućnosti isplatiti ga na ovaj ili onaj način, ja bih rekla. (Perceval) Jedini problem je taj da u kriznoj situaciji imate masovnu inflaciju i te stvari. Tko zna što se sve može dogoditi. (L) Pa, druga stvar je ako si investirao u nekretninu, mjesto za život i stvari… “Stvari” su uvijek od koristi. Čak i kad stvari postanu zbilja loše, ti možeš vjerojatno prodati stvari, ili ih zamijeniti za nešto, usluge ili aktivnosti, ili učiniti neki rad ili nešto da otplatiš svoj dug prema banci – pod pretpostavkom da imaš kredit. (Andromeda) Također, ako je to jedina opcija koju imaš da bi imao mjesto za život, onda… (L) Mislim da će oni pritisnuti imovinski zakon daleko poslije, ako uopće. Oni ne žele ići na imovinski zakon jer je to druga stvar koju elita koristi: imovinski zakon. (Perceval) Oni posjeduju pola države. (L) Ovdje postoje dvije stvari: korporacijski zakon, ako imaš korporaciju – a mislim da je to jedna od stvari koja nas je zaštitila uveliko jer smo počeli kao korporacija i imamo odvjetnike. Oni nas ne žele progoniti. Čak i naša fiskalna revizija, oni su odustali jer je to američki korporativni zakon. Jednostavno su odustali! Vi zaplačete: “Korporacija! Ugovor o izbjegavanju dvostrukog oporezivanja!” i oni jednostavno dignu ruke od vas. Jer ne žele napraviti presedan koji bi NJIH zeznuo, ako bi se on iskoristio protiv njih. Naravno, američki zakon je orijentiran po principu presedana. I ako netko dođe na sud i kaže ovdje je očiti presedan, to se dogodilo u tom i tom slučaju, bla, bla, onda su oni stjerani u kut. To su vrste stvari o kojima ne govorimo baš mnogo u javnosti. Mi imamo korporacije, mi podnosimo porezne prijave, mi idemo kroz sve te procedure. Činimo sve da porezni/korporativni ljudi budu sretni, i oni nas ne gnjave na tom nivou. Francuzi su se zbilja zaglibili u tome kada su pokrenuli reviziju. (Perceval) Stvar je u tome da je zbilja loša ideja za bilo koga da ima novac na burzi sada. Na tim tržištima su vjerojatno svi izgorili. Način na koji oni rade je taj da oni žele novac običnih ljudi uvući u to da bi oni [elita] mogli postati još bogatiji. Elita investira na burzi također, ali oni investiraju gomilu novca, cijena raste i onda investiraju ponovo ili kratko prodaju jer znaju da će ona pasti zato što će oni povući sve svoje dionice deset dana kasnije. To je sve totalno namješteno u njihovu korist. (L) Nicholas, jesi li ti investirao u kratke prodaje? (Nicholas) Da, to je VXX index, koji je kratak na tržištu. Dakle, ako tržište padne, onda moje dionice rastu. (L) Pa, onda je možda bolje da ih ostaviš neko vrijeme tamo? (Nicholas) Da, mogao bih. Biti strpljiv! (L) Da, mislim tako. Ako ste investirali u kratku prodaju, zadržite to. U redu, zadnje pitanje? (Aleana) Jeste li dobili držače za papirne tanjure? (L) Oh DA! I zahvaljujemo na njima! (Andromeda) Već smo ih iskoristili. Drugi put! Nije bilo baš lijepo vrijeme još, tako da smo jeli vani samo dvaput. (L) Da, vidiš da nosim pulover. (Aleana) Da, ovdje je vruće. (Horseofadifferentcolor) Prošli tjedan je bilo hladno i morala sam izvaditi vestu s kapuljačom u svibnju! To je zbilja rijetkost. (Aleana) Da, bilo je samo 7°C prošli tjedan. (L) To je otprilike koliko je ovdje svake noći. (Nicholas) Ne mogu dočekati! [smijeh] (L) Pa, informirat ćemo vas o svemu. Dakle, kažimo laku noć i sayonara jer sam izmučena. (Aleana) Da, vidim to sada. Samo da sve ovo transkriptiraš, je umarajuće! (Horseofadifferentcolor) Zadovoljstvo vas je vidjeti, hvala na svemu! (Aleana) Bilo je izvrsno! (Nicholas) Hvala! [puse svima, laku noć, pozdravi] (L) Mislim da ćemo reći laku noć ukoliko nam nemate što reći. O: Dobar show! Doviđenja. (L) Ovo je čudno na neki način… (Andromeda) Osjećala sam kao da je tu bilo jako PUNO energije, kao da su imali dosta toga za reći. Ali smo možda bili preumorni da bi to sve izdržali! KRAJ SESIJE Original sesije na engleskom jeziku možete naći ovdje. Related Articles: Posted in Kasiopejske sesije