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Session Date: June 7th 2014 Laura and Andromeda at the board Pierre, Perceval, Possibility of Being, Chu, Kniall, Data, Atreides, Mr. Scott, Timótheos, Alana Joining via Skype: Breton, Jefferson, Tomiro, Aragorn, Seppo Ilmarinen Q: (L) This is June the 7th 2014. {Review of those present} I just want ya'll to know that we don't have anything planned for the public part of this session. We certainly have stuff planned our private session because we have issues that we're going to be continuing from a previous session. But, basically, we don't have anything on the agenda. So, we're hoping you guys do! (Breton) Yeah, we tried to give some thought today about what might be concerning the Finnish group. (L) That's all you're concerned about, eh? I mean, what about Russia? What about Ukraine? What about Red China? Is China red anymore? Those kinds of questions? (Perceval) What color is China? [laughter] (L) No, we're just joking with you! Sorry... Let's see if anybody shows up. Q: (L) I suppose we ought to say hello. (Andromeda) Hello? Is there anybody there? A: Mrioioeag of Cassiopaea. Q: (L) So we have our Finnish group here tonight. And we also have a lot of things going on here in the house and elsewhere. So, we don't have any particular questions, so we're just going to ask them what their first question is. (Breton) So, as you know, there's five of us in the Finnish group. I would be moving from here soon, but the Finnish group has been thinking quite a bit about where they should focus their energy best to serve the aims and the goals of the Fellowship. We're feeling a little exposed being in a Northern country with all the climate changes. One of the things that we're doing at the moment is making a web page and trying to translate a few articles in Finnish with the goal to try to attract more interest from people who speak Finnish. Now, the question is, is that a good use of our efforts - to do this web page and translation? A: Indeed. In your spare time. It is service to others. Giving of the self sends a special signal to the environment, both immediate and cosmic. As to other concerns, do not make precipitate moves. Support is needed in several ways. If you are easily able to come and help with prep, it is good. {letters come faster now} But trust that if you are sending the correct signal that at the right moment you will know what to do. Q: (L) Alright. Next question? Was that clear? Do you want that expanded on, or do you need to ask supplementary questions? (Aragorn) The climate thing... Should we expand on that? We could, I think. It's bothering us. (Breton) I think what Aragorn is getting at is what I alluded to before: feeling a little bit exposed in this part of the world. But is it something that should be very high on everyone's agenda to be making plans to leaving this place, or... A: {letters come very quickly} If everyone is paying close attention to reality, you will receive the warning in time. And if the preparations made by this group proceed apace with support, there will be a place to "land" and time to get there. Q: (Breton) Yeah, okay. (L) In other words, probably working on SOTT is your best bet. That's what keeps use cued in to what's going on. That's where we get our signals. (Breton) Yeah. (L) Paying attention to the whole global situation, the weather, the earth changes, and so on and so forth. (Perceval) And if the preparations made by this group, here, proceed apace with support... (L) Yes. (Pierre) By working on SOTT, if you work on SOTT, we get more donations, we can fund preparation of the bases, we can build a landing area for you eventually when "BEEPS" hit the fan. (L) And how long does it take to drive from there to here? (Breton) Couple of days. It's about 3000 kilometers, and there's usually a ferry ride involved. (L) So you need a couple of days warning? (Breton) In theory, yeah. (L) Well, I think we can manage that. I think we may even have a week to two weeks if things get weird. The thing is we know neither the day nor the hour. We suspect in a general range because there's all these different signs and so forth. But we have to concentrate on what we're doing right now, which is... Well, we've got various things going on. We've got this project going on in the US. I'm thinking that in the end, this EU house is just going to be the only EU house there is: this one we're in, and the one down the road that we're getting ready to sign the deal on. And that one – the farm - can house probably 25 or 30 people. I don't know that there's any more than that who are able, ready, or willing... Well, of course there are going to be a whole bunch of people who don't think anything's going on who are going be crying and saying, "Oh, I wish I'd thought about this beforehand!" But, you know, in general, I think 25 or 30 people on the EU side are what we're going to have. We've got a lot more on the US side. So I think we'll end up accommodating everybody here. At this point, I don't see that there's any real need for everybody to just jump up and move... There are several people who are in a position - Breton's one of them - to come and help. Preparation work. But there are other people who have jobs, families, different things going on that it would be better if they stay there for now. For example, Aragorn has a wife who doesn't think anything weird's going to happen. Well, at that certain moment, when she says, "Oh sh*t! You were right!" Then I think she'll be a lot more willing to get in the car. (Aragorn) Yeah, sure. (L) So, I mean if you stay and you help as much as you can in whatever ways you can to support the global effort, then you're doing the right thing where you are. And then just let us handle - and the people who are in a position to help now - let them handle the preparations. You know, we don't KNOW exactly what's going to happen. So we have to hedge our bets. You have to prepare for the worst, hope for the best, and take what comes. Continue to conduct your life doing every moment what is in front of you, what is important and right to do. And that doesn't mean running off and abandoning your families or any of that sort of thing. People are in different positions so they do different things. Next question? (Aragorn) I would really like to ask my question. I am in a situation where I am wondering what line of work I should be pursuing in order to help the Fellowship and protect my family and increase my options. Would it be good to still pursue the university career, or something else? A: What would you be doing if all things were equal and money was not an object? Q: (Aragorn) I would be singing and teaching singing as a day job, I guess. (L) In a university, or somewhere else? (Aragorn) Um, not at the university, no. I am motivated, but... A: How can you move into that reality from where you are? Q: (L) What do you need? (Aragorn) Geez... I need to put out an effort to do it. (Breton) You have to establish your own business, maybe? (Aragorn) Yeah, but um... A relating question is: Why do I feel always enormous tiredness and lack of energy when I try to think of this kind of plan? It feels like there's some block... A: Psychic draining from those close to you. Q: (Aragorn) Is it possible to ask who these close ones are? A: You know. Q: (Aragorn) I know. Okay. I don’t know what to say. (Breton) Think about it? (Aragorn) I'll think about it. Let's go to the other questions. (Breton) Seppo Ilmarinen, want to go ahead, or Tomiro? (Tomiro) Well, I have a personal question. We discussed earlier here with the group the situation about my partner and her girlfriend. And I'm kind of wondering if moving in with her and her children and selling my apartment could be a good idea for being able to serve others or if there's a kind of program running here. Maybe I'm not seeing everything here. A: Review what we have said. Are there things you could do to make a sudden change easier? Q: (L) You mentioned selling an apartment. Why don't you sell your apartment and just rent where you are for the time being? In other words, lighten your load, but at the same time, make no super-drastic changes. (Tomiro) Mm-hmm. (L) Just kind of be ready, like Cassius Clay [Muhammad Ali]: float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. (Pierre) Be ready to move. (Perceval) But his suggestion was that he do that, but move in with his girlfriend and her children. (Jefferson) She's pregnant. (L) She's pregnant. Is it your fault? (Tomiro) No. (Jefferson) In vitro. (L) Whose idea was that? (Tomiro) It was hers. (Perceval) Who's the father? (Tomiro) It's in vitro. (Jefferson) Sperm bank, and she did it unilaterally, without consulting with him. (L) I'd stay away from somebody who does things like that. (Perceval) How long have you been with your girlfriend? (Tomiro) Maybe a year, two years. (Pierre) How do you feel about what she did? (Atreides) So your girlfriend went and got pregnant by another man? (L) No, she went to a sperm bank. (Atreides) Well, it doesn't matter how she got the sperm in her. (Pierre) How do you feel Tomiro about this event? (Tomiro) Not really good. (Possibility of Being) What keeps you with her? (Tomiro) She is kind of stubborn. She had made a decision that she wanted a child before she was 35. (L) Doesn't she already have children? (Tomiro) She has an adopted child. A: Pity those who pity. Q: (L) That if you're in a relationship because of pity, or you stay because of pity, then you are to be pitied. (Tomiro) Mm-hmm. (Perceval) Or maybe even that she pities, because an adopted child, maybe she pities herself or whatever... (L) There's just pity all over the place here. (Perceval) And the point of "pity those who pity", it doesn't mean to that we SHOULD pity them. It means it's not a good thing. People who pity is a bad deal. (Andromeda) Don't be led by pity to do things. (L) Okay, that's a tough situation. (Perceval) Yeah, I would say... (L) I'd run like hell, and I know a thing or two. But you're still young and loaded with hormones. I can't tell you anything. (Perceval) I would say that in terms of the idea of keeping yourself free and available to do things and move, I would say that moving in with her is a "tie that binds". (L) That's a bear trap. (Pierre) And does she want you to recognize the children as yours? (Tomiro) Well, I guess... I'm not really sure about that. I guess she wants me to be their father, or raise them... (L) But you don't know?! (Pierre) That's the next step: to lock you in. (Chu) It doesn't look like you have a very open relationship if you don't know. (L) Oy vey. Let's move on to the next question. You've gotta work this out. (Perceval) Sounds like she's making all the decisions, and you're just a passive bystander, ya know? Even though you might think you're not. Women are smarter than men in that regard, at least. (Possibility of Being) You can ask the forum for more feedback. (L) Yeah, why don't you ask about this on the forum? (Tomiro) Yeah, I'm planning on doing that. (Perceval) She's got a plan for you, and you'll find out about it as you go along. (L) You don't have a need to know. Ya know, I have a girlfriend. She's in her 70's now, and I'm in my 60's. We've been friends since we were in our 20's and she was in her 30's. She had 3 teenage boys. And I was kind of like their big sister. And they sat down one day and asked me for advice. And I told them: If you can't keep your zipper up, use protection. Because nearly every girl out there is looking to get pregnant so that she can lock a guy into a relationship or responsibility, or an obligation. Most women are extremely unhappy in their family lives, their home lives... They've got this whole nurturing instinct, this baby-making instinct that's really powerful. A woman's baby-making instinct is as powerful as a guy's "I gotta get me some" instinct. Trust me. So, if you know how powerful your urges in that direction are, just imagine that women's urges to make the baby and entrap the man are just as powerful. So, you have to keep that in mind. (Perceval) It's a match made on Earth! It's what keeps the species going. (L) It's the General Law. What are ya'll whispering about the in the background there? (Aragorn) I was saying that the "psychic draining" comment is really bothering me, and if there's time I'd like to ask... (L) Go ahead. (Aragorn) Is this intentional, and what can I do about it? A: No, not intentional. It rarely is. Knowledge and awareness and standing up for yourself at crucial moments should help. Q: (Aragorn) Okay. Thanks. (L) Alright. Carry on! (Perceval) What about Seppo Ilmarinen? He's getting antsy! (Seppo Ilmarinen) My question is about why do I have so many blank spots in my childhood? Childhood memories? A: Abuse can tend to aid dissociation. Writing may help. Q: (Breton) I guess we're familiar with the writing exercises. (Seppo Ilmarinen) Yeah, I've been doing those. A: Not just "the writing exercises!" We mean writing down your life, and do it with the hand, not the keyboard. You will be surprised at how much returns to memory, especially if you allow a bit of automaticity. Also, SRT is recommended. Q: (Seppo Ilmarinen) Thank you. I've booked a session. (Breton) Are we getting near the end? (L) Are we getting near the end of the questions? (Jefferson) I have a question if it's alright. Considering my very complicated home situation with many children and ex-wife and potential health or mental blocks, the question is where can I focus my energy in terms of wage work, and the work on the self to best serve the fellowship and my family? (L) Can you break that down into two questions? I'd say that... A: Grow where you are planted. Q: (Jefferson) I wonder if I'm being a detriment to my children's and ex-wife's... A: You lack a lot of self-discipline. It will do you good to be responsible and see things through. Stop trying to find ways to force others to be responsible for your choices. Q: (L) Next? (Breton) Anybody else have...? Well, only one that I have was kind of the wrap-up question if that's okay. Do the C's have any message for the Finnish group, or something that we haven't asked about that maybe we should know? A: If you have a strong bond, and one of you comes to this locator, it will ensure that the others have a magnetic connection. Tomiro, there is someone for you, but she cannot free herself from the tangles of her life if you cannot and thereby transmit the strength to her. Q: (Breton) I would ask one quick personal question. I have been sort of really procrastinating getting SRT. Do you guys think that it's a good idea that I do Spirit Release Therapy? A: For you it is not so urgent. Q: (Breton) Okay, I'm done. (Jefferson) If there's still time, if you're not so tired, I'd just like to ask, I know the discipline issues have been ongoing. And I just at this point, as I'm trying to break through the wall and work on this discipline issue, and unconsciously it shows that I'm, uh, putting the blame on others, forcing others... Is there something I can do, something practically, that I can work with? Something practically on the ground to help me out in this discipline issue? A: Jefferson, work with dedication and, above all, honesty. That means to work in all ways. Job Family Group Assist all who are asking to the greatest extent possible. Q: (L) Are you going to sing a song now? (Aragorn) [laughs] Maybe. (Breton) We recorded it for you guys. (L) Well, put it up on the Paleos group so we can watch it. (Breton) Sure. (L) Because right about now, I'm whupped. (Breton) Yes, I'm sure. [thank yous] (L) Kissy kissy! Good night! End of Session
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Laura (L) i Andromeda za pločom Prisutni: Pierre, Perceval, Possibility of Being, Chu, Kniall, Data, Atreides, Mr. Scott, Timótheos, Alana Pridružili se preko Skype-a: Breton, Jefferson, Tomiro, Aragorn, Seppo Ilmarinen (L) Danas je 7. lipanj 2014. godine. {nabrajanje prisutnih} Želim samo svima dati na znanje da nemamo ništa planirano pitati za javni dio ove sesije. Imamo sigurno planirana pitanja za privatnu sesiju jer želimo nastaviti neke stvari iz prethodne sesije. Ali, jednostavno, nemamo ništa u planu za ovu. Tako da se nadamo da vi ekipo imate! (Breton) Pa da, danas smo nešto razmišljali u vezi grupe iz Finske. (L) To je jedino o čemu imate nešto, ha? Mislim, što je s Rusijom, Ukrajinom, crvenom Kinom? Da li je Kina još uvijek crvena? Ta vrsta pitanja? (Perceval) Koje boje je Kina? [smijeh] (L) Ne, samo se šalimo s vama! Oprostite… u redu… da vidimo hoće li se itko pojaviti. (L) Pretpostavljam da bi trebali pozdraviti. (Andromeda) Pozdrav? Ima li nekoga tu? Odgovor (O): Mrioioeag od Kasiopeje. (L) Dakle, s nama je večeras grupa iz Finske. A imamo i mnogo toga što se ovdje kod nas u kući događa, a i drugdje. I tako, nemamo nekih posebnih pitanja, pa ćemo jednostavno pustiti finsku grupu da pitaju svoje prvo pitanje. Krenimo! (Breton) Kao što znate, nas je petero u grupi iz Finske. Ja ću se uskoro odavde odseliti, ali grupa iz Finske je dosta razmišljala gdje bi fokusirala svoju energiju, tj. gdje bi najbolje mogli služiti ciljevima i postignućima Fellowship-a. Osjećamo se malo izloženi sa svim ovim klimatskim promjenama jer živimo u sjevernoj zemlji. Jedna od stvari koju trenutno činimo jest izrada internet stranice i prevođenje nekoliko članaka na finski jezik s ciljem da privučemo više ljudi koji ne razumiju engleski i znaju samo finski. Sad, pitanje je da li je to dobro ulaganje naše energije – da napravimo te web stranice i prijevode? O: Svakako. U vaše slobodno vrijeme. To je služenje drugima. Davanje od sebe šalje specijalan signal u okolinu, i u neposrednu i u kozmičku. Što se drugih pitanja tiče, ne činite nagle poteze. Potrebna je podrška na nekoliko načina. Ako ste u mogućnosti lagano doći i pomoći s pripremama – to je dobro. {slova sada dolaze brže} Ali imajte povjerenja da ako šaljete korektan signal, da ćete u pravom trenutku znati što je za činiti. (L) U redu. Iduće pitanje? Da li je ovo bilo jasno? Želite li pitati dodatna pitanja? (Aragorn) Stvar s klimom… Da li bi trebali pričati o tome? Mogli bi, mislim bar. To nas muči. (Breton) Mislim da je Aragorn došao na to što sam prije spomenuo: osjećaj da smo izloženi klimatskim promjenama u ovom dijelu svijeta. Ali da li je to nešto što bi trebalo biti na vrhu prioriteta i planova da se napusti ovo mjesto, ili… O: {slova dolaze vrlo brzo} Ako svatko bude pomno obraćao pažnju na stvarnost, primit ćete upozorenje na vrijeme. I ako se pripreme koju učini ova grupa nastave s podrškom, bit će mjesto za “sletjeti” i vrijeme da se dođe do njega. (Breton) U redu. (L) Drugim riječima, vjerojatno je vaš najbolji ulog raditi na SOTT-u. To je ono što nam usmjeruje pažnju na ono što se događa. Od tuda mi dobivamo naše signale. (Breton) Pa da. (L) Obratiti pozornost na globalnu situaciju, vrijeme, promjene na Zemlji, itd., itd. (Perceval) I ako se pripreme od strane ove grupe ovdje, nastave s podrškom… (Pierre) Kad radite na SOTT-u, ako radite na SOTT-u, mi dobivamo više donacija, možemo financirati pripremu drugih baza, eventualno možemo sagraditi mjesto za slijetanje za vas kad se oglasi “alarm”. (L) I koliko traje vožnja od vas do nas? (Breton) Nekoliko dana. Udaljeni smo oko 3000 km, a tu je obično uključena i vožnja trajektom. (L) Dakle, trebate upozorenje dobiti nekoliko dana unaprijed? (Breton) U teoriji, da. (L) Pa mislim da to možemo izvesti. Mislim da bi čak imali tjedan ili dva ako stvari postanu čudne. Stvar je u tome što ne znamo ni sat ni dan kad se to može dogoditi. Mi sumnjamo na okvirni raspon jer je tu puno različitih znakova, itd. Ali se moramo koncentrirati na ono što sada radimo, a to je… Pa, imamo razne stvari koje se događaju. Imamo taj projekt u SAD-u koji je trenutno aktualan. Mislim da, na kraju, ova kuća u Europi je jedina koja će postojati u Europi: ova u kojoj jesmo i ova niz cestu za koju se pripremamo za potpisivanje ugovora. I ta, koja je trenutno farma, može ugostiti vjerojatno 25-30 ljudi. Nemam pojma postoji li više ljudi koji su u mogućnosti, ili spremni, ili imaju volje… Naravno, tu će biti cijela hrpa ljudi koja misli da se ništa ne događa, koji će plakati i govoriti: “Oh, da sam bar znao o ovome nešto ranije!” Ali znate, općenito, mislim da će 25-30 ljudi iz regije Europe biti ono što ćemo imati. Imat ćemo puno više u SAD-u. Pa mislim da ćemo na kraju udomiti svakoga ovdje. U ovoj točki ne vidim nikakav razlog da svi skoče i krenu… Postoji nekoliko ljudi koji su u mogućnosti – a Breton je jedan od njih – da dođu i pomognu. Rad na pripremama. Ali postoje i drugi ljudi koji imaju svoje poslove, obitelji, različite stvari, itd. i njima bi bilo bolje ostati tamo gdje jesu za sada. Na primjer, Aragorn ima ženu koja misli da se ništa strašno neće dogoditi, ali koja će u jednom trenutku reći: “Oh sranje! Bio si u pravu!” Mislim da će onda biti puno voljnija sjesti u auto i krenuti. (Aragorn) Pa da, naravno. (L) Dakle ako ostaneš i pomogneš koliko god možeš na bilo koji način, kako bi podržao globalni napor, onda činiš pravu stvar od tamo gdje jesi. I onda jednostavno pustiš nas da rješavamo – i ljude koji su sada u poziciji da pomognu – dopustiš im da vrše pripreme. Znate, mi NE ZNAMO točno što će se dogoditi. I zato moramo zaštititi naše uloge. Morate se pripremiti na najgore, nadati se najboljem, i uzeti ono što dolazi. Nastaviti voditi svoj život svakog trenutka koji je ispred vas, ono što je važno i ispravno za učiniti. I to ne znači pobjeći i napustiti svoje obitelji ili takvu nekakvu stvar. Ljudi su u različitim pozicijama i oni rade različite stvari. Dakle… Iduće pitanje? (Aragorn) Zbilja bih želio ovo pitati. U situaciji sam u kojoj se pitam što činiti i kako bih pomogao Fellowship zajednici i zaštitio moju obitelj, kao i povećao broj mogućih opcija. Da li bi trebao još uvijek ganjati karijeru na sveučilištu, ili nešto drugo? O: Što bi činio da su sve stvari jednake važnosti, a da novac nije u pitanju? (Aragorn) Pjevao bih i podučavao pjevanje kao svoje svakodnevno zanimanje, mislim. (L) Na sveučilištu ili negdje drugdje? (Aragorn) Hm, ne na sveučilištu, ne. Imam motivacije, ali… O: Kako možeš prijeći u taj realitet iz ovog u kojem trenutno jesi? (L) Što trebaš? (Aragorn) Hm… Trebam napraviti određeni napor da to postignem. (Breton) Možda trebaš organizirati svoj vlastiti posao? (Aragorn) Da, ali, hmmm… Vezano pitanje uz to je sljedeće: Zašto se uvijek osjećam jako umorno i nedostaje mi energije kad pokušavam razmisliti o toj vrsti plana? Osjećam to poput neke blokade… O: Psihičko iscrpljivanje od onih tebi bliskih. (Aragorn) Da li je moguće pitati tko su oni? O: Znaš ti to. (Aragorn) Znam. U redu. Nemam pojma što reći. (Breton) Da razmisliš o tome? (Aragorn) Razmislit ću o tome. Pređimo na druga pitanja. (Breton) Seppo Ilmarinen, želiš pitati, ili ti Tomiro? (Tomiro) Imam osobno pitanje. Diskutirali smo ranije ovdje u grupi o situaciji u vezi moje partnerice i njene prijateljice. Pitam se da li bi bila dobra ideja da se preselim s njom i njezinom djecom, te prodam svoj stan da bih bio u mogućnosti služiti drugima ili postoji tu neki program koji je u toku. Možda ja ovdje ne mogu sve vidjeti. O: Pročitaj ponovo što smo rekli. Postoje li stvari koje bi mogao učiniti da bi olakšao iznenadnu promjenu? (L) Spomenuo si prodaju stana. Zašto ne prodaš svoj stan i jednostavno ne budeš tu gdje sad jesi? Drugim riječima, olakšaj svoj teret, ali istovremeno ne napravi super dramatične promjene. (Tomiro) Hm-hmm. (L) Samo budi nekako spreman, poput onog što je rekao Cassius Clay [Muhammad Ali]: leti poput leptira, ubadaj poput pčele. (Pierre) Budi spreman za pokret. (Perceval) Ali njegov prijedlog je bio da to učini, ali da se useli sa svojom djevojkom i njenom djecom. (Jefferson) Ona je trudna. (L) Ona je trudna. Da li je tvoja krivica? (Tomiro) Ne. (Jefferson) Umjetna oplodnja. (L) Čija je to bila ideja? (Tomiro) Njena. (Perceval) Tko je otac? (Tomiro) Pa to je umjetna oplodnja. (Jefferson) Banka sperme, i ona je to učinila svojevoljno, bez da se konzultirala s njim. (L) Ja bih ostala podalje od osobe koja čini stvari poput te. (Perceval) Koliko si dugo s njom? (Tomiro) Možda godinu – dvije. (Pierre) Što ti misliš o tome što je ona učinila? (Atreides) Dakle, tvoja djevojka je zatrudnila s drugim muškarcem? (L) Ne, ona je otišla u banku sperme. (Atreides) Pa, nije bitno kako je sperma došla u nju. (Pierre) Kako se ti Tomiro osjećaš u vezi tog događaja? (Tomiro) Ne baš dobro. (Possibility of Being) Što te drži skupa s njom? (Tomiro) Ona je nekako svojeglava. Napravila je odluku jer je htjela dijete prije nego navrši 35 godina. (L) Pa nema li ona već djecu? (Tomiro) Ima jedno usvojeno dijete. O: Žali one koji žale. (L) Ako si ti u vezi zbog sažaljenja, ili ostaješ u vezi iz sažaljenja, onda tebe treba žaliti. (Tomiro) Mm-hmm. (Perceval) Ili možda čak to da ona žali, radi usvojenog djeteta, možda ona sažalijeva sebe ili štogod… (L) Tu je jednostavno toliko sažaljenja na sve strane. (Perceval) I poanta “žaljenja onih koji žale”, to ne znači da bi mi TREBALI njih sažalijevati. To znači da to nije dobra stvar. Ljudi koji sažalijevaju loše prolaze. (Andromeda) Nemojte da vas sažaljenje vodi da činite stvari. (L) U redu, to je teška situacija. (Perceval) Pa da, rekao bih… (L) Ja bih pobjegla od nje kao od vraga, jer ja znam neke stvari. Ali ti si još mlad i pun hormona. Ne mogu ti ništa reći. (Perceval) Rekao bih da iz kuta gledanja ideje o održavanju sebe slobodnim i o mogućnosti da činiš i krećeš se, da bi useljenje kod nje bilo “veza koja bi te vezala”. (L) To je kao stupica za medvjede. (Pierre) Da li ona želi da ti prihvatiš djecu kao svoju? (Tomiro) Pa, mislim… Nisam baš siguran u vezi toga. Mislim da ona želi da budem njihov otac, ili da ih podižem… (L) Ali ti to ne znaš?! (Pierre) To je idući korak: da te zaključa u to. (Chu) Izgleda da nemaš baš iskrenu vezu, čim to ne znaš. (L) Oh bože. Idemo na iduće pitanje. Moraš ovo riješiti. (Perceval) Zvuči kao da ona donosi sve odluke, a ti si samo pasivni promatrač, znaš to? Čak iako misliš da nisi. Žene su pametnije od muškaraca, barem u tom segmentu. (Possibility of Being) Možeš pitati o tome na forumu za više odgovora. (L) Da, zašto ne pitaš o tome na forumu? (Tomiro) U redu, planiram to učiniti. (Perceval) Ona ima plan za tebe i ti ćeš vremenom saznati o njemu. (L) Ti nemaš želju saznati. Znaš, ja imam prijateljicu. Ona je sad u svojim 70-tim, a ja sam u svojim 60-tim. Bile smo prijateljice od mojih 20-tih, njenih 30-tih. Ona je imala 3 dječaka, tinejdžera. Ja sam bila njima poput starije sestre. Jednog dana su sjeli i pitali me za savjet. I rekla sam im: Ako ne možete svoj zatvarač na hlačama držati zatvorenim, koristite zaštitu. Jer skoro svaka djevojka u okolici je željela zatrudniti kako bi zaključala momka u vezu ili ga učinila odgovornim, ili obvezanim. Većina žena je ekstremno nesretna u svojim obiteljima, u svojim domovima… One imaju taj čitavi instinkt njegovanja, taj instinkt rađanja djece – koji je iznimno jak. Ženin nagon za trudnoćom je jednako jak kao i muškarčev “moram negdje gurnuti svoj” poriv. Vjeruj mi. Dakle, ako znaš koliko je jak tvoj poriv te prirode, samo si zamisli da je ženin poriv da se napravi dijete da bi se zarobio muškarac jednako jak. Imaj to na umu. (Perceval) To je savršen brak na Zemlji! To je ono što održava opstanak vrste. (L) To je Generalni zakon. Što vi svi tamo pozadi šapćete? (Aragorn) Rekao sam da me komponenta “psihičkog iscrpljivanja” zbilja brine i ako ima vremena želio bih pitati… (L) Hajde. (Aragorn) Da li je to namjerno i što mogu učiniti u vezi toga? O: Ne, nije namjerno. Jako je rijetko to namjerno. Znanje, svjesnost i držanje svog stava u ključnim trenucima bi trebali pomoći. P: (Aragorn) U redu, hvala. (L) Dobro, nastavimo! (Perceval) Što je sa Seppo Ilmarinen-om? On postaje nestrpljiv! (Seppo Ilmarinen) Pitam se zašto imam toliko rupa u mom djetinjstvu? U sjećanju na djetinjstvo? O: Zlostavljanje može potaknuti disocijaciju. Pisanje bi moglo pomoći. (Breton) Mislim da smo se upoznali s vježbama pisanja. (Seppo Ilmarinen) Pa da, činio sam to. O: Nije to samo “vježba pisanja”! Mislili smo na to da zapisuješ svoj život i da to činiš rukom, a ne tipkovnicom na kompjuteru. Bit ćeš iznenađen koliko će se sjećanja tako vratiti, posebno ako dozvoliš izvjesnu dozu automatizma. Terapija duhovnog oslobađanja je također za preporučiti. P: (Seppo Ilmarinen) Hvala vam, rezervirao sam sesiju za to. (Breton) Dolazimo li kraju? (L) Dolazimo li kraju naših pitanja? (Jefferson) Ja imam pitanje ako je to u redu. S obzirom na moju složenu situaciju kod kuće s mnogo djece i bivšom ženom i potencijalnim zdravstvenim i mentalnim blokadama, pitanje je gdje ja mogu fokusirati svoju energiju u smislu plaćenog rada i rada na sebi kako bih najbolje služio Fellowship grupi i mojoj obitelji? (L) Možeš li to razložiti na 2 pitanja? Rekla bih da… O: Rasti gdje te se posadi. (Jefferson) Pitam se da li štetim svojoj djeci i bivšoj ženi… O: Nedostaje ti mnogo samodiscipline. Pomoglo bi ti da budeš odgovoran i da završavaš stvari do kraja. Prestani tražiti načine da forsiraš druge da budu odgovorni za tvoje izbore. (L) Iduće? (Breton) Ima li netko pitanje…? Imam ja jedno za kraj ako je to u redu. Imaju li Kasiopejci neku poruku za grupu iz Finske, ili nešto što nismo pitali, a trebali bi saznati? O: Ako imate jaku vezu i jedan od vas dođe na ovu lokaciju, to će osigurati da ostali imaju magnetsku vezu. Tomiro, postoji netko za tebe, ali ona ne može osloboditi sebe od zbrke svog života ukoliko ti ne uspiješ osloboditi sebe i time joj daš svoju snagu. (Breton) Pitao bih jedno brzo osobno pitanje. Odugovlačio sam s terapijom duhovnog oslobađanja. Da li je dobra ideja da napravim tu terapiju? O: Za tebe ona nije toliko hitna. (Breton) U redu, završio sam. (Jefferson) Ako još ima vremena i niste umorni, pitao bih u vezi mojih problema s disciplinom. U ovoj točki pokušavam se probiti kroz taj zid i radim na disciplini i podsvjesno to pokazuje da stavljam krivnju na druge, prisiljavam druge… Mogu li nešto učiniti, nešto praktično? Da mi pomogne s tom disciplinom? O: Jefferson, radi privrženo i, najvažnije, iskreno. To znači rad na svim poljima: - posao - obitelj - grupa - pomaži svima koji pitaju, koliko god si u mogućnosti. (L) Hoćete li sada otpjevati pjesmu? (Aragorn) [smijeh] Možda. (Breton) Snimili smo ju za vas! (L) Stavite ju na Paleos grupu tako da ju možemo pogledati. (Breton) Naravno. (L) Jer sada sam baš umorna. (Breton) Da, u redu. [zahvale] (L) Pusa, pusa! Laku noć! KRAJ SESIJE Original sesije na engleskom jeziku možete naći ovdje. Related Articles: Posted in Kasiopejske sesije