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Session Date: December 13th 2014 Laura and Andromeda at the board Pierre, Perceval, Arky, Data, PoB, Chu, Galatea, John Ainhirn-Williams, Finduilas495, Windmill Knight, Prodigal Son, parallel, Mr. Scott, Kniall, Alana, and Noko the Wonderdog Q: (L) This is the 13th of December 2014. And if you write it the American way, it's 12/13/14. Let's see if we can get some action here... A: Faraloniaea of Cassiopaea calling! Q: (L) Well, I have several things on my mind tonight. We've got a couple of things. First of all I got an e-mail that came to my website, to my personal blog. Okay, so it says: Dear Laura, My name is Svetlana. I live in Russia. My adorable husband started to follow Cassiopaea site three years ago. Please don't take it unkindly I truly respect the work you do and there are many interesting this there to learn but since that time my husband has been changed. He is not longer want to have a baby and our marriage is almost broken, he is taking all the time about the GREAT TRANSITION, says he is a NEW man who does not love me any longer. I’m addressing to you as to wife and mother of three children. I pray you to help me to find the way out of this dead-lock. Could you give me some advice or something because I think that now you know my husband better then me. Please play attention to this letter a matter of life and death. (L) Well, I kind of think that part of her issue was addressed in last week's session, which discusses people who need to take care of their family responsibilities if they have them and grow where they are planted. However, I would like to know... Even though it seems to be a personal question, it seems to me that it's a universal issue. So, I think if there could be some general all-around advice for such people finding themselves in this situation when their partners come upon the Cassiopaean work... What is the proper response? Is there any general advice? A: First of all, the writer does not take any responsibility for the breakdown in relations and dumps all the blame on her husband. If there is love and some understanding such an interest will not cause such a breakup. It sounds as if the person wants another baby in the way she writes, but this is a ruse. She already has three. The problem is that the husband has lost interest in his family due to her overbearing control. In general, a person who "finds" answers to questions is not trying to get out of responsibility, so the other partner ought to be able to demonstrate their love and colinearity by joining them on the quest, or at least offering support for what is important and of lasting value. This woman will not complain if her husband's work contributes to her survival and that of her family. In short, each situation can be different. Q: (L) Alrighty then. Well, yeah, but I do feel for her. But I only know what she's written. People can write all kinds of things that are not true and have no basis in reality. (Perceval) It sounds kind of like a fairly typical situation where one... (L) … partner is interested in things... (Perceval) ... and tries to talk about it, and the other one doesn't want to hear it. That creates animosity, and it's that which is the source of the problem. (L) It's not the interest that's the problem, it's that the other person is a controlling kind of person who doesn't want to listen and doesn't want to have anything to do with it. (Chu) We don't know what he said, but she says he keeps talking about the "time of transition". But we know of people who went completely non-strategic or caring about their partners, and they started trying to scare them. Like, "The Wave is coming!" and blah blah blah. But we don't even know for sure that he's doing that. (Perceval) It's possible that he is... (Chu) So if there is some of that, and he hasn't networked about it... (L) Okay, now we had a post that was posted in response to the July 12, 2014 session which I’ve been thinking about. Anyway, here is the question and answer from that session that elicited the comment on the forum: Session 12 July 2014 Q: (L) Anything else anybody wants to ask about that before we change topics? Everybody here is waiting for the change of topic... Okay, I've been going over all of the early sessions, and I noticed that I had a particular obsession with the topic of Jesus during the first year at the very least, 1994, because of my particular religious upbringing and background and so forth. And I had a lot of energy invested in... not just a lot of energy, but a lot of emotion. So, I'm reading back over these previous answers we received on the topic of Jesus, and I would like to ask if, in fact, Julius Caesar is Jesus, or was the model for Jesus, why were you giving me answers that sometimes could have been applied to Caesar, but other times could not? A: You would not have been able to receive. When you ask a question with strong prejudice, we cannot violate your will to believe. (L) And then HumbertoLVX on our forum wrote: That's a bit of a red flag. Why couldn't have the C's just said, "You are not ready to receive the truth", or something similar like they have before, instead of espousing disinformation? Regardless, I appreciate the honesty. It's a good reminder that the Cs have never been a source of necessarily accurate information, but instead rather a source of inspiration for research. Thank you all for the great candid and inspiring work! (L) So, my question is: He asks why couldn't the C's have just said, "'You are not ready to receive the truth', or something similar like they have before, instead of espousing disinformation?" So, can you comment? A: First of all, there was no "disinformation." The character known by the moniker "Jesus" is a composite of numerous myths as well as based on the life of a real historical person and still another. Q: (L) What do you mean, "and still another"? A: Another person who made less historical impact. One must also consider the story segments taken from other literature of the time. Secondly, what would you have done if we had told you either all of such details or that "Jesus" did not exist? Q: (L) You're asking me? A: Yes. Q: (L) I would have terminated the project because at the time, I was quite convinced that any spirit that couldn't or wouldn’t acknowledge Jesus was demonic. That was a pretty common “test” in New Age land at the time. I would have stopped communicating with the C's altogether. A: Yes. Q: (L) That was... (Pierre) So there was no choice. (L) That was how convinced I was at the time. (Pierre) So they couldn't be straightforward. A: Suppose you are communicating from a realm of light, knowledge and truth into a realm of darkness, ignorance and lies? Next assume that you really want the recipient to come to the truth. Q: (Pierre) Yeah, so, what would you do? A: How can darkness receive light? You must utilize conceptual themes and the material you have to work with. The veils that must be penetrated consist of assumptions, beliefs, and programs of strong emotions. Q: (Perceval) No easy task! A: The veil can only be penetrated by sowing conceptual seeds which include notable conflicts of information. Such seeds falling on the fertile ground of a pure desire for truth will sprout and drive the actions that lead to penetrating the veil. Most people "can't stand the truth." Q: (L) But why didn't you just say, "You're not ready to receive the truth"? A: Would that have piqued your curiosity? Q: (L) No, it wouldn't have piqued my curiosity. It would have just suggested to me that you guys didn't know anything. A: Exactly! Q: (Perceval) Yeah, it's very difficult. Even just theoretically you can imagine trying to navigate anybody's assumptions and emotional programs and trying to convey truth through all of that. How would you go about it without treading on any sore spots... (Mr. Scott) But we do know it. (Perceval) To some extent, but I mean... (Mr. Scott) I mean, to just write something on SOTT that reveals the truth, and people react to it. And that's just at a very basic level. (Ark) It's like when you talk to a child. If you say, "You are not ready to receive the truth". I mean... [laughter] (L) The only time they ever refused me was when it was something that would be dangerous to me. (Perceval) Right, and they told you. (L) And they told me they couldn't tell me. (Perceval) But if they would have told you that you were not ready, that would have just provoked you, and you wouldn't have let it go. Especially around Jesus, if you're not ready to know the truth about it. Ya know, like, "About Jesus?! I wanna know the truth right now! You better fess up!" (L) Well, I tell you, some of their answers about some of the alien questions where they couldn't tell me something right then, that actually made me turn away from it right then. It was like, "Nyah nyah-nyah nyah-nyah!" like little kids. So, I just decided that path wasn't the right one. I just continued research along certain other lines. And that's when, as I said, I came to the idea that the whole "alien reality" is a paranormal reality. Yes, it does have a very physical manifestation, but that manifestation is through people. It's through human beings. Yes, they can manifest visually in our world and a few other things. And if they break down in our world, artifacts remain – or so we are told... From the paranormal side, there are ectoplasmic things or something similar that can be left in our world. There are things that can be transported from one dimension to another, from past to future, or so we are told and I’ve seen some evidence. There ARE all those kinds of things. But primarily, the alleged alien reality interacts with our world as a paranormal phenomenon. That means that we need to look more carefully at what happens to people and with people. (Pierre) Just about the way the C's addressed how to deliver to truth and how far to go... It reminded me. You know when we had those EE classes, we often encountered people who had a genuine interest. They wanted to know, at least to some extent. During those conversations, all the time, you're testing to see how far you could go, how much you can say, like about psychopathology, and so on. You could deliver a lot about many topics. But, by going slowly and testing, you can see, "Well, here, I can say some more, but there, I cannot go!" You don't dump it all on a person because there is a genuine interest, and this person might be open to something, but only gradually... There are many things about our reality that are totally shocking to the average person. (L) And you know if you go too far, you'll turn them off completely! You'll actually give energy to their rejection of what you're saying. (Pierre) Yeah! (Chu) But it also speaks to how the Cs would be you in the future, too. Another person when they're told, "No, you're not ready to know," they would focus ONLY on that. "Well, what do you mean I'm not ready! Tell me all about it!" That would be a source of disinformation, because it would be asking for a lie just because that person thinks they have the whole banana. But you didn't, because they knew... (L) It was like dropping breadcrumbs through the forest. (Perceval) I think it was even more crucial in your case, because like on SOTT, I can say, "Here's the full truth, and if you don't like it, go take a walk!" That kind of thing... But the C's weren't in a position where they could do that with you. They had to be extremely careful not to provoke that reaction in you since you were on a pre-destined mission between yourself in the future and yourself now. (L) Yeah, and I have a pretty stubborn streak... (Perceval) You might have dissed the whole thing! There's much more risk here. It's a much more weighty issue as they just indicated: transmitting truth and light into a realm of lies and darkness. (L) And it seems that the truth is that there are a number of people who fit into the Jesus puzzle... The information they gave was true about a couple of aspects of the Jesus character. (Perceval) And they kept in mind what you could receive and not receive... (L) And then they dropped those hints... "Children with Roman women." That just drove me crazy! That was such a hint! (Andromeda) It was one of those seeds. (L) Yeah, and it just grew and grew and grew in me. That was one of the reasons why I went into the whole Roman history thing and now have found pretty much all of the clues that demonstrate that everything the Cs said about Jesus then, and now, is true. (Perceval) That's why people like this HumbertoLVX guy, they're into from the point of view of "Just give me the answers." They don't even know what they can or cannot perceive themselves. (L) It's a complete misunderstanding of, or an inability, to comprehend the true nature of STS and STO. (Pierre) And it's also very black and white thinking. There's a saying going like that, that if you were delivered the whole truth about the universe right now, you would just blow like a fuse. (L) This is true. You have to build the vessel. (Pierre) Yeah, and grow it. (L) You have to so completely widen your field of knowledge and understanding that it’s amazing to me now. Back then I was pretty well up on things in many fields, but only now do I realize how much I didn’t know. Your range and depth of knowledge has to get bigger and bigger and bigger, because then when you finally come to something, a crucial clue, and you come to it in the natural way, it's like a zillion pieces of the puzzle that you've been loading into your brain for years all of a sudden clicks into place. You just feel completely different about it. But anyhow, that kind of leads us into our next topic, which is Eve Lorgen and her Love Bite Scenario, which has apparently been taken up by Bernhard and Humberto. They are... well, maybe you can give a little background on this, Perceval. (Perceval) Well, I think Bernhard's been into it for quite a while. He's been into the alien abduction influence in people's lives for a long time… {Cs interrupt…} A: Notice that Bernhard does no original work of his own, but rather attempts to ride on the coat tails of others!!! Q: (L) Okay, hang on. I need to put my glasses on. A: [answer comes super fast, pointer nearly flying off the board] The love bite scenario is more a government disinformation program for the weak minded and susceptible than anything else. Notice that all the effects can be easily produced with microwave manipulation of consciousness and emotions along with the normal interactions of social programming and psychopathology. WHAT was that? I think they were REALLY wanting to get that said! [laughter + review of answer] (Perceval) Facebook. (Pierre) So, there's not much "alien" in the Alien Love Bite. (Perceval) Well, there's not. Whenever you talk about Carlos Castaneda and his expression: "They give us their mind," well there ya go! Until you decide to be something else, you ARE them! All the things that you project onto aliens, and all their evil intentions, it's all in you unless you choose to do something about it. But, like we were saying the other day, people who jump on the alien thing, and alien love bites, and alien ear tickles or whatever... [laughter] Whatever else they do, they jump on all of that to blame it for something that is part of themselves. And they project it out onto aliens, and they're done! (Pierre) Which is an easy way out. It's easier to see the evil outside than in yourself. (Perceval) Yeah. So, instead of projecting it onto another person, it's projected onto aliens. With Eve Lorgen and all these other people, it's, "Aliens are doing this stuff to me!" It absolves them completely of any responsibility. And that's what Bernhard did recently: he absolved himself of responsibility, apart from the odd, "Oh yes, I was to blame, and I have issues... BUT, it was aliens and hot chicks on Facebook who came after me because I'm a spiritual guru and they want to take me down. I have NO carnal thoughts whatsoever!" Ya know? "Somehow aliens manipulated me into contacting that girl on Facebook and getting her to come to my house, where I had sex with her on the first night. And I was struggling all the way..." (Chu) For a week! (Perceval) "For a week, and then weird things happened, and it's those damn aliens!" [laughter] That's what he said. (Pierre) How convenient. (Perceval) And then he delivered it in a sneaky and manipulative way to get other people to agree with him and follow along and ignore completely their own responsibility. A: Notice also how many times Bernhard has "gotten himself" into similar situations. Q: (L) Well, his thing is that since he is a spiritual worker, and he is doing work to expose the truth, that he is being targeted, and... A: What did we first say? Q: (Chu) "Notice that Bernhard does no original work of his own, but rather attempts to ride on the coat tails of others!!!" That's what they said first. (Alana) So, he's not the one doing the research, or... (Pierre) He's not the spiritual one. (L) Well, okay, he gives this list of characteristics for people who are susceptible to love bites. Do you remember what the list was that Eve Lorgen put in her book? They are... (Andromeda) Um, that they're generally involved in alternative news, or spiritual circles, or... (L) But wasn't there something about "caring professions"? (Andromeda) Yeah, caring professions like nursing, or... A: Notice also how many predators are also involved in "alternative" topics and especially "caring professions"?!? Q: (Chu) That's the fertile ground for them. It's actually interesting because part of his story... There is no way there could have been any alien thing, because the girl told him way before they met what she did, what her life was, blah blah blah. He admits that much. And then he's like, "Oh, but I invited her to my house even though I knew anyway!" Skipping that part, there was a part where he talks about the sleep paralysis. She had it, but he didn't. That struck me as a bit of a clue, like, who's the predator here?? A: Exactly! A big clue! Q: (Chu) She had sleep paralysis, and he woke up, and suddenly he felt a strong sexual desire for her, and had sex again with her right after. (L) Right after she's suffered this traumatic event? (Chu) But he says it was something that came through her, and she saw a creature on her, and on him, or whatever. But he was awake. (L) The creature was coming through HIM and attacking HER if you ask me! A: Yes. Q: (Perceval) It's like the joke about the hunter and bear. [laughter] I'll not tell it, but... A: Better to say that he was the transmitter of the frequency. Q: (L) So, he was transmitting a frequency that didn't affect him, but it affected her, because she was not locally from that area. She was in a new area, he was from the area, and he was used to the transmission of these frequencies. A: More or less. Q: (Chu) And then he uses it to accuse her. (Pierre) Blame the victim. I didn't read the blurb about Bernhard, but from what you describe, this girl is in a very vulnerable position. She's kind of paralyzed in the bed, and that's when he feels this sexual urge... That's the definition of a predator! A: That was the object of the event. Note that there were a number of similar events between equally susceptible individuals at the same time, which is always the case when such signals are emitted. Q: (L) So, it was like something we have noticed on many occasions: When one person has a bad dream, and several people have bad dreams, we kinda figure that something is being emitted and everyone is picking it up and unpacking it in their head according to their own makeup or their own psychology. Anything else on that? (Perceval) No, I would just say that if he keeps having these alien love bite situations, I think eventually we'll have to conclude that he doesn't come here for the hunting, ya know? Like the bear said to the hunter. If someone keeps having these experiences of alien love bites, then he must to some extent be enjoying it some way, or getting something from it. You can't continue to complain about it when you do it over and over again... (Pierre) ...if he doesn't stop the situation. Stop seeing girls at all like that. (Perceval) If he continues in that, then... (Pierre) Then he's the love biter. _http://veilofreality.com/2014/11/22/the-dark-side-of-cupid-hyperdimensional-interferences-in-love-relationships/ for details} (L) Alright, I had one other thing on my mind. I want to ask if there's anything we can do... I want you to come here, parallel. I want you to sit right here. [parallel sits next to Laura] Now, are you interested in anything that will help you personally? (parallel) Yes. (L) How would you phrase the question? (parallel) Oh... If I have a question? (L) Yes (parallel) Can I sit on it, or it's now or never? (Perceval) It might be. (L) Well, if you don't ask it, I'll think of one. (parallel) How can I process or work with the emotions that I feel are underneath, but which sort of get stored under a certain layer in daily life, and so never get processed? (L) Never get expressed or processed? Because they're not being expressed, or they have never been expressed in any way? How can you deal with the emotions that block you, or something like that? A: Keep in mind that you have dealt with things the same way for so long that there are very deep tracks in the brain. At the same time, there are circuits that have been little or never used. This must change!!! Super efforts are needed or you will deteriorate rapidly! Q: (parallel) Can I ask about these tracks, and how to work with them? Jump out of them? What ways I can... (Perceval) When they say, "very deep tracks", does that mean anything to you? (parallel) I just think of habits. (Perceval) Like what? (parallel) Maybe disregarding when I get like a signal when I sit alone. I think, "Okay, you should really sit down and have a think about this," and it disappears. It's just dissociation. (Perceval) Losing a thought or idea... (L) That's one thing that Martha Stout talks about. When you dissociate, it becomes habitual. That may be what they're talking about... A: Yes. Q: (L) What they're talking about is the habitual dissociation. Paying close and careful attention to what's outside, and responding to it, is what you've almost never used. A: You live your life from inside a bubble. Q: (Pierre) A bubble that is between you and interacting with reality. A: Entropy awaits if you do not take advantage of the present opportunities. (L) You have all this emotion going on... (Ark) Do you talk to yourself in your mind? (parallel) It takes over, yes. (Ark) Does it happen often? When you start talking, I mean... (parallel) No, it's not conversations. I bring up a point, and then that I guess I need to think about it. It's not very deep especially not these days when I'm working physically a lot. (L) Is there anything else that you can give parallel right now, or should we come back to this topic at another time? A: Let him think, work, network, and see later. For now, goodbye. (Galatea) Did they have somewhere to go tonight? (L) I'm sure they do. They have other appointments. (Pierre) It's Saturday night. They have to go to the disco. END OF SESSION
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Laura (L) i Andromeda za pločom Prisutni: Pierre, Perceval, Arky, Data, PoB, Chu, Galatea, John Ainhirn-Williams, Finduilas495, Windmill Knight, Prodigal Son, parallel, Mr. Scott, Kniall, Alana i Noko the Wonderdog (pas, op. prev.) Pitanje (P): (L) Danas je 13. 12. 2014. godine. I ako to pišete na američki način, to je 12/13/14. Idemo vidjeti možemo li se pokrenuti… Odgovor (O): Faraloniaea od Kasiopeje na telefonu! P: (L) Nekoliko stvari mi je večeras na pameti. Imamo par stvari. Prije svega, dobila sam e-mail koji mi je stigao na moju internet stranicu, na moj osobni blog. OK, ovako glasi: Draga Laura, Zovem se Svetlana. Živim u Rusiji. Moj divni muž je prije tri godine počeo pratiti Cassiopaea internetsku stranicu. Molila bih da me ne smatrate neljubaznom, ja doista poštujem rad kojim se bavite i postoje različite interesantne stvari koje se tamo mogu naučiti, ali od tada se moj muž promijenio. Više ne želi da imamo bebu i naš brak je gotovo u potpunosti razoren, cijelo vrijeme priča o VELIKOJ TRANZICIJI, tvrdi kako je NOV čovjek koji me više ne voli. Obraćam vam se kao supruga i majka troje djece. Preklinjem vas, pomozite mi naći put iz ove bezizlazne situacije. Možete li mi dati neki savjet ili nešto jer mislim da sada vi znate bolje mog muža nego ja. Molila bih da obratite pažnju na ovo pismo jer se radi o pitanju života i smrti. (L) Mislim da je dio njenog problema bio iznesen u sesiji od prošlog tjedna, u kojoj se raspravljalo o ljudima koji trebaju preuzeti odgovornost za svoje obitelji, ako ih imaju, i rasti tamo gdje su posađeni. Međutim, htjela bih znati… Iako je to osobno pitanje, čini mi se da je to univerzalni problem. Postoji li neki univerzalni savjet za ljude koji se nalaze u ovakvim situacijama kada njihovi partneri naiđu na rad Kasiopejaca… Koji je pravi odgovor? Postoji li univerzalni savjet? O: Kao prvo, pisac teksta ne preuzima odgovornost za raspad veze i prebacuje svu krivnju na supruga. Ako postoji ljubav i razumijevanje, interes za ovaj rad ne bi uzrokovao takav raspad veze. Izgleda kao da osoba želi dijete, po načinu na koji piše, ali to je smicalica. Ona ih već ima troje. Problem je u tome što je suprug izgubio interes za obitelj zbog njene nepodnošljive kontrole. Općenito, osoba koja “nalazi” odgovore na pitanja se ne trudi pobjeći od odgovornosti, tako da bi druga osoba u vezi trebala demonstrirati svoju ljubav i zajedništvo pridruživanjem u istraživanju, ili barem pružati podršku u onom što je važno i što ima dugotrajnu vrijednost. Ta žena se ne bi žalila da rad njenog muža pridonosi njenom preživljavanju i preživljavanju njene obitelji. Ukratko, svaka situacija je drugačija. P: (L) Dobro. Ali ja ipak suosjećam s njom. Ali ja jedino znam ono što je ona napisala. Ljudi mogu pisati različite stvari koje nisu istinite i nemaju osnove u stvarnosti. (Perceval) Zvuči poput tipične situacije gdje jednog… (L) … od partnera interesiraju neke stvari… (Perceval) … i želi pričati o tome, a drugi to ne želi čuti. To stvara netrpeljivost i to je uzrok problema. (L) Interes nije problem, stvar je u tome što druga osoba kontrolira, i ne želi slušati i ne želi ništa imati s tim. (Chu) Mi ne znamo što je on rekao, ali ona kaže da on stalno govori o “vremenu tranzicije”. Ali poznajemo ljude koji su se ponašali potpuno bez strategije ili nisu marili za svoje partnere i pokušavali ih uplašiti nečim poput: “Val dolazi!” i bla, bla, bla. Ali mi čak ne znamo sa sigurnošću ponaša li se on tako. (Perceval) Moguće da se tako ponaša… (Chu) Ako se događa nešto od toga, a on nije komunicirao s drugim ljudima u vezi toga… (L) OK, sada imamo odgovor na forumu koji je napisan kao odgovor na sesiju od 12. 07. 2014., o kojem sam razmišljala. Ovdje je pitanje i odgovor iz te sesije koja je izazvala komentar na forumu: P: (L) Želi li još netko nešto pitati u vezi ovoga prije nego promijenimo temu? Svi ovdje čekaju promjenu teme… U redu, prolazila sam kroz sve ranije sesije i primijetila da sam bila posebno opsjednuta, u najmanju ruku, temom Isusa tijekom prve godine, 1994., zbog mojeg religioznog odgoja i porijekla, i tako dalje. Puno energije sam uložila – ne samo puno energije, nego i puno emocija – dakle, ponovo čitam prethodne odgovore koje smo dobili vezano za temu Isusa i željela bih pitati ako je, zapravo, Julije Cezar bio Isus, ili je poslužio kao model za Isusa, zašto ste mi davali odgovore koji su se nekad mogli odnositi na Cezara, a nekad nisu? O: Ne bi ih bila u stanju primiti. Kada postaviš pitanje sa snažnom predrasudom, ne možemo prekršiti tvoju volju da vjeruješ. (L) I onda je HumbertoLVX na našem forumu napisao: To je dio koji nekako uznemiruje. Zašto nisu Kasiopejci mogli reći: “Nisi spremna primiti istinu”, ili nešto u tom smislu kao što su govorili ranije, umjesto širenja dezinformacija? Bez obzira, ja cijenim iskrenost. Dobar je podsjetnik da Kasiopejci nikad nisu bili izvor nužno točnih informacija, već izvor inspiracije za istraživanje. Hvala svima za veliku iskrenost i inspirirajući rad! (L) Dakle moje pitanje je: On pita zašto Kasiopejci jednostavno nisu rekli: : “Nisi spremna primiti istinu”, ili nešto slično kao što su govorili ranije, umjesto širenja dezinformacija?” (O) Kao prvo, tu nije bilo “dezinformacija”. Osoba poznata kao “Isus” je mješavina različitih mitova, kao i života stvarne povijesne osobe i još jedne druge. P: (L) Kako mislite “još jedne druge”? O: Druge osobe koja je ostavila manji povijesni utjecaj. Također je potrebno razmotriti segmente priče iz druge literature iz tog vremena. Drugo, što bi ti učinila da smo ti rekli sve to ili da “Isus” nije postojao? P: (L) Pitate mene? O: Da. P: (L) Prestala bih s projektom jer u to vrijeme sam bila prilično uvjerena da svaki duh koji ne može ili ne želi priznati Isusa, da je demonske prirode. To je bio prilično uobičajen “test” u New Age zajednici u to doba. Obustavila bih u potpunosti komunikaciju s Kasiopejcima. O: Da. P: (L) To je… (Pierre) Tako da nije bilo izbora. (L) U takvom sam uvjerenju živjela tada. (Pierre) Tako da nisu mogli biti iskreni. O: Pretpostavimo da komunicirate iz realiteta svjetlosti, znanja i istine u realitet mraka, ignoriranja i laži? Dalje, pretpostavimo da vi stvarno želite da primatelj dođe do istine. P: (Pierre) Da, i što biste vi učinili? O: Kako može mrak primiti svjetlo? Moraš koristiti konceptualne teme i materiju s kojom moraš raditi. Mora se prodrijeti kroz veo koji se sastoji od pretpostavki, uvjerenja i programa jakih emocija. P: (Perceval) Nije lak zadatak! O: Kroz veo se može jedino prodrijeti sijanjem konceptualnog sjemena što uključuje značajan konflikt informacija. Takvo sjeme kad padne na plodno tlo čiste želje za istinom, će proklijati i voditi akcijama koje probijaju veo. Većina ljudi “ne može podnijeti istinu”. P: (L) Ali zašto niste jednostavno rekli “Ti nisi spremna za primanje istine”? O: Bi li to pobudilo tvoju znatiželju? P: (L) Ne, ne bi pobudilo moju znatiželju. To bi mi samo sugeriralo da vi dečki ništa ne znate. O: Upravo tako! P: (Perceval) Da, to je vrlo teško. Čak i samo teorijski možete zamisliti kako pokušavate prolaziti kroz nečije pretpostavke i emocionalne programe, i truditi se prenijeti istinu kroz sve to. Kako biste vi išli kroz to bez stajanja na žuljeve… Scott) Ali mi to znamo. (Perceval) Do izvjesne mjere, ali mislim… (Mr Scott) Mislim, da samo napišete nešto na SOTT-u što otkriva istinu i ljudi reagiraju na to. I to je samo na najosnovnijem nivou. (Ark) To je kao kad pričate s djetetom. Ako mu kažete “Nisi spreman primiti istinu”. Mislim… (smijeh) (L) Jedini put kada su me ikad odbili bilo je onda kada je nešto bilo opasno za mene. (Perceval) Da, i rekli su ti to. (L) Rekli su mi da mi ne mogu reći. (Perceval) Ali da su ti rekli da nisi spremna, to bi te samo isprovociralo i ti to ne bi pustila. Pogotovo oko Isusa, kad nisi bila spremna saznati istinu u vezi njega. Znate, to bi bilo nešto poput: “U vezi Isusa!? Želim znati istinu sada! Bolje da mi kažete!” (L) Pa, da vam kažem, neki od njihovih odgovora u vezi pitanja o vanzemaljcima, kad mi nisu tada mogli reći ništa točno, odustala sam tada baš zbog toga. Bilo je kao: “Nja, nja, nja, nja!” Kao mala djeca. Stoga sam odlučila da taj put nije bio ispravan tada. Nastavila sam istraživati druge putove. I to je bilo onda kada sam došla do ideje da je cijela “vanzemaljska realnost” zapravo paranormalna realnost. Da, to ima fizičku manifestaciju, ali ta manifestacija je kroz ljude. Kroz ljudska bića. Da, oni se mogu manifestirati vizualno u našem svijetu i još neke stvari. I ako se sruše u našem svijetu, artefakti ostaju ili nam je tako rečeno… S paranormalne strane, postoje ektoplazmatske stvari ili nešto slično, što može biti ostavljeno u našem svijetu. Postoje stvari koje mogu biti transportirane iz jedne dimenzije u drugu, iz prošlosti u budućnost, barem nam je tako rečeno, a i vidjela sam neke dokaze. POSTOJE sve te različite stvari. Ali u osnovi, navodna vanzemaljska stvarnost međusobno djeluje s našim svijetom kao paranormalni fenomen. To znači da moramo gledati pažljivije na to što se događa ljudima i s ljudima. (Pierre) Što se tiče načina koga su sad Kasiopejci predstavili, kako dostaviti istinu i koliko daleko ići… To me je podsjetilo. Znate kad smo imali ona Éiriú Eolas predavanja, često smo nailazili na ljude koji su bili istinski zainteresirani. Oni su htjeli znati, ili makar proširiti znanje do neke granice. Tokom tih razgovora, cijelo vrijeme, testirate koliko daleko možete ići, koliko možete reći, na primjer o psihopatologiji, itd. Možete reći mnogo o puno temi. Ali kad idete polako i testirate, možete vidjeti: “Dobro, ovdje mogu reći nešto više, ali tamo ne mogu ići dalje”. Ne izbacite odmah sve na osobu jer tu postoji istinski interes, i ta osoba može biti otvorena prema nečemu, ali samo postepeno… Mnogo je stvari u vezi naše realnosti koje su potpuno šokantne za prosječnu osobu. (L) I znaš da ako odeš predaleko, odvratit ćeš ih kompletno! Ti zapravo daješ energiju njihovom odbijanju onome što govoriš. (Pierre) Da! (Chu) Ali to također govori o tome kako će Kasiopejci biti ti u budućnosti. Drugim osobama kojima bi rekli “Ne, vi niste spremni znati!“, one bi se fokusirale SAMO na to. “Pa, kako mislite da nismo spremni? Recite nam sve o tome!” To bi bio izvor dezinformacija, jer bi oni pitali za laž baš zbog toga jer misle da znaju cijelu stvar. Ali ti nisi, jer oni znaju… (L) To je kao bacanje mrvica kruha po šumi. (Perceval) Mislim da je bilo još značajnije u tvom slučaju, jer na SOTT-u ja mogu reći: “Ovo je cijela istina i ako je ne želite, idite na drugo mjesto!” Tako nešto… Ali Kasiopejci nisu bili u poziciji da to mogu učiniti s tobom. Oni su morali biti ekstremno oprezni da ne prouzroče takvu reakciju u tebi s obzirom da si na predodređenoj misiji između sebe u budućnosti i sebe sada trenutno. (L) Da, i imam prilično tvrdoglavu crtu… (Perceval) Mogla si odbaciti cijelu stvar! Tu je puno više rizika. Tu je mnogo više značaja, kao što su upravo ukazali: prenošenje istine i svijetla u realitet laži i mraka. (L) I izgleda da je istina da postoji mnogo ljudi koji se uklapaju u slagalicu o Isusu… Informacije koje su dali su istinite u nekoliko aspekata Isusovog karaktera. (Perceval) I imali su na umu što bi ti mogla primiti, a što ne… (L) I onda su bacali te tragove… “Imao je djecu s Rimljankama.” To me je jednostavno izludilo! To je bio takav trag! (Andromeda) To je bilo jedno od onih sjemena. (L) Da, i samo je raslo i raslo u meni. To je bio jedan od razloga zašto sam prošla cijelu rimsku povijest i pronašla toliko zaključaka koji demonstriraju da sve što su Kasiopejci rekli o Isusu, onda i sada, je istina. (Perceval) Zbog toga su ljudi poput HumbertoLVX na točki gledišta: “Samo mi dajte odgovore”. Oni čak ni ne znaju što mogu ili ne mogu sami razumjeti. (L) To je kompletno nerazumijevanje ili nemogućnost razumijevanja istinske prirode OPS-a i OPD-a. (Pierre) To je također veoma crno-bijelo razmišljanje. Postoji priča koja kaže da ako bi upravo sada primio kompletnu istinu o univerzumu, onda bi jednostavno eksplodirao kao detonator. (L) To je istina. Moraš izgraditi posudu. (Pierre) Da, i razviti je. (L) Vi trebate toliko kompletno proširiti svoje polje znanja i razumijevanja, da je meni to sada zapanjujuće. Prije sam bila vrlo dobra na mnogim poljima, ali tek sada vidim koliko sam malo znala. Vaš opseg i dubina znanja bi trebali postajati sve veći i veći, jer onda kada napokon dođete do nečega, do bitnog zaključka i dođete do toga prirodno, to je kao milijardu dijelova slagalice koju ste unosili u mozak godinama, i onda vam iznenada sve sjedne na svoje mjesto. Vi se jednostavno osjetite potpuno drugačije u vezi toga. To nas vodi do naše sljedeće teme, a to je Eve Lorgen i njen scenarij ljubavnog ugriza, koji su izgleda preuzeli Bernhard i Humberto. Oni su… pa možda možeš nešto ispričati u vezi toga, Perceval. (Perceval) Pa, mislim da je Bernhard u tome već duže vrijeme. On proučava utjecaj otmica vanzemaljaca na ljudske živote već dugo vremena… (Kasiopejci prekidaju…) O: Primijetite da Bernhard nema svoj originalni rad, već se radije pokušava voziti na repovima tuđih kaputa! P: (L) Dobro, pričekajte! Moram staviti svoje naočale. OK… O: (odgovor dolazi super brzo, planketa je skoro odletila s ploče). Scenarij ljubavnog ugriza je više vladin program dezinformiranja za osjetljive i ljude slabijeg uma, nego bilo što drugo. Primjetite da se svi ti efekti mogu lako proizvesti mikrovalnom manipulacijom svijesti i emocija zajedno s normalnom interakcijom društvenog programiranja i psihopatologije. P: (L) Uuh… ŠTO je to bilo? Mislim da su ovo ZAISTA željeli reći! (smijeh + pregled odgovora) (Perceval) Facebook. (Pierre) Znači, nema mnogo vanzemaljaca u vanzemaljskom ljubavnom ugrizu. (Perceval) Pa, nema. Svaki put kad govorimo o Carlosu Castanedi i njegovoj izjavi: “Dali su nam svoj um”, pa eto, to je to! Sve dok ne odlučite biti netko drugi, vi JESTE oni! Sve one stvari koje projicirate na vanzemaljce, i sve njihove zle namjere, sve je to u vama dok ne odlučite učiniti nešto u vezi toga. Ali, kao što smo rekli neki dan, ljudi koji se primaju za vanzemaljske stvari i vanzemaljske ljubavne ugrize i vanzemaljsko škakljanje uha ili što god… (smijeh). Što god da vanzemaljci čine, ljudi se prime za sve to i bace krivnju na to za nešto što je dio njih samih. I oni to projiciraju na vanzemaljce i za njih je to završena priča! (Pierre) Što je lagan način izlaska iz problema. Lakše je vidjeti zlo vani nego u sebi. (Perceval) Da. Dakle umjesto da projiciramo to na drugu osobu, mi projiciramo na vanzemaljce. S Eve Lorgen i svim tim drugim ljudima, to je “Vanzemaljci mi rade ove stvari!” To ih oslobađa od svake odgovornosti. I to je Bernhard nedavno učinio: skinuo odgovornost sa sebe: “Oh da, mene treba kriviti i ja imam probleme… ALI to su bili vanzemaljci i vruće ženske s Facebooka koje su me proganjale jer sam ja spiritualni guru i oni me žele uništiti. I ja NEMAM nikakve požudne misli!” Znate? “Nekako su me vanzemaljci izmanipulirali da kontaktiram tu djevojku preko Facebooka i dovedem ju u svoju kuću, gdje sam imao seks s njom odmah prvu noć… I borio sam se cijelo vrijeme…” (Chu) Cijeli tjedan! (Perceval) “Cijeli tjedan i onda su se počele događati čudne stvari, a to su ti prokleti vanzemaljci!” (smijeh) To je ono što je rekao. (Pierre) Kako prikladno. (Perceval) I onda je to prikazao na podmukao i manipulativan način da dobije suglasnost od drugih ljudi i da ga prate i potpuno ignoriraju vlastitu odgovornost. O: Primijetite samo koliko je puta Bernhard “uvalio sebe” u slične situacije. P: (L) Pa, on kaže da budući da je on duhovni radnik i da radi na otkrivanju istine, da je zbog toga bio meta, i… O: Što smo prvo rekli? P: (Chu) “Primijetite da Bernard nema svoj originalni rad već se radije pokušava voziti na repovima tuđih kaputa!!!” To su prvo rekli. (Alana) Dakle on nije taj koji istražuje, ili… (Pierre) On nije duhovnjak. (L) Pa, OK, on je dao karakteristike ljudi koji odgovaraju za ljubavne ugrize. Sjećaš li se koje je karakteristike Eve Lorgen stavila u svoju knjigu? Oni su… (Andromeda) Oni koji su općenito uključeni u alternativne vijesti ili duhovne krugove ili… (L) Ali zar nije bilo nešto poput “brižnih zanimanja”? (Andromeda): Da, brižnih zanimanja poput njege, ili… O: Primijetite također koliko je predatora također uključeno u “alternativne” teme, a pogotovo u “brižne profesije”?!? P: (Chu) To je plodno tlo za njih. To je zapravo interesantno jer je dio njegove priče… Nema šanse da su tu uključeni vanzemaljci jer mu je djevojka rekla prije nego su se sreli što je radila, kakav joj je bio život i tako dalje… To je i sam priznao. I onda će on na to: “Pozvao sam je kod sebe doma iako sam znao za sve to!” Preskočimo taj dio, nego tu je bio i dio gdje on govori o paralizi u snu. Ona ju je imala, ali on nije. Tada sam pomislila i zapitala se tko je predator ovdje?!? O: Naravno! Veliki trag! P: (Chu) Ona je imala paralizu u snu i on se probudio i iznenada je osjetio veliku seksualnu privlačnost prema njoj i imao seks ponovno s njom odmah nakon toga. (L) Odmah nakon što je iskusila ovaj traumatični događaj? (Chu) Ali on kaže da je to nešto što je došlo kroz nju i ona je vidjela biće na sebi i na njemu, ili kako god. Ali on je bio budan. (L) Biće je prolazilo kroz NJEGA i napadalo NJU – ako mene pitate! O: Da. P: (Perceval) To je kao šala između lovca i medvjeda. (smijeh) Neću je ispričati, ali… O: Bolje reći da je on bio prenositelj frekvencije. P: (L) Dakle, on je prenosio frekvenciju koja nije utjecala na njega, ali je utjecala na nju, jer ona nije s tog lokalnog područja. Ona je bila na novom području, a on je bio s tog područja i on je navikao na prijenos tih frekvencija. O: Više-manje. P: (Chu) I onda je to sve iskoristio da je optuži. (Pierre) Okrivi žrtvu. Nisam čitao o Bernhardu, ali iz onoga što ste opisali, ta djevojka je u vrlo ranjivoj poziciji. Ona je nekako paralizirana u krevetu i onda je on osjetio taj seksualni poriv… To je definicija predatora! O: To je bio cilj događaja. Primijetite da je tu bilo nekoliko sličnih događaja između jednako podložnih individua u isto vrijeme, što je uvijek slučaj kada se takvi signali emitiraju. P: (L) To je nešto što smo primijetili u mnogo situacija: kada jedna osoba ima loše snove, i nekoliko drugih ljudi ima isto loše snove, nekako smo shvatili da se nešto odašilje i svatko to uzima i raspakirava u svojoj glavi shodno sebi ili svojoj psihologiji. Još nešto vezano za to? (Perceval) Ne, želim samo reći da ako on nastavi imati ove vanzemaljske ljubavne ugrize, mislim da ćemo eventualno morati zaključiti kako on nije došao ovdje radi lova, znate? Kao što medvjed kaže lovcu. Ako netko nastavi imati ovakva iskustva ljubavnog vanzemaljskog ugriza, onda on mora do izvjesne granice i uživati u tome ili dobivati nešto iz toga. Ne možeš se nastaviti žaliti na to ako to radiš stalno iznova… (Pierre) … ako on sam ne zaustavi tu situaciju. Da prestane viđati djevojke na taj način. (Perceval) Ako nastavi, onda… (Pierre) Onda je on taj koji grize u ljubavi. {vidjeti detalje na: _http://veilofreality.com/2014/11/22/the-dark-side-of-cupid-hyperdimensional-interferences-in-love-relationships/} (L) Dobro, imala sam jednu drugu stvar na umu. Želim pitati što možemo učiniti… Želim da dođeš ovdje, parallel, sjedni s nama. (parallel sjeda pokraj Laure) Sad, interesira li te nešto što će pomoći tebi osobno? (parallel) Da. (L) Kako ćeš postaviti pitanje? (parallel) Oh… imam li pitanje? (parallel) Mogu li to pitati kasnije ili je sad il’ nikad? (Perceval) Moglo bi biti. (L) Pa ako ne pitaš, ja ću se sjetiti jednog. (parallel) Kako mogu procesuirati ili raditi s emocijama za koje osjećam da su unutar mene, ali koje budu pohranjene ispod određenog sloja svakodnevnog života, i time nikada ne budu obrađene? (L) Nikada se ne izraze ili procesuiraju? Zato što se ne izražavaju ili nikada nisu izražene na bilo koji način? Kako se možeš nositi s emocijama koje te blokiraju, ili nešto slično? O: Imaj na umu da se odnosiš prema stvarima na isti način vrlo dugo, tako da su ostali vrlo duboki tragovi u tvojem mozgu. Istodobno, tu postoje sklopovi koji su se malo ili nikad koristili. To se mora promijeniti!!! Veliki napori su potrebni ili ćeš vrlo brzo propasti! P: (parallel) Mogu li pitati o tim putevima u mozgu i kako raditi na njima? Iskočiti iz njih? Na koji način mogu… (Perceval) Kada su rekli “vrlo duboki tragovi”, govori li ti to nešto? (parallel) Mislim da su to navike. (Perceval) Koje su to? (parallel) Možda ignoriranje kada dobijem signal kad sjedim sam. Pomislim: “U redu, trebao bi sjesti i razmisliti o ovom”. I onda to nestane. To je disocijacija. (Perceval) Izgubiš misao ili ideju… (L) To je stvar o kojoj Martha Stout govori. Kada se disociraš, to postaje navika. O tome oni možda govore… O: Da. P: (L) Ono o čemu oni govore je navika disocijacije. Pridavati pozornost i brižnu pažnju onome što je izvana i reagirati na to, je ono što ti gotovo nikada nisi radio. O: Ti živiš svoj život kao da si u balonu. P: (Pierre) U balonu koji je između tebe i tvojeg odnosa sa stvarnosti. O: Entropija čeka, ako ne iskoristiš sadašnje mogućnosti. (L) Ti imaš sve te emocije… (Ark) Pričaš li sa sobom u mislima? (parallel) Obuzima me, da. (Ark) Događa li se to često? Kada počneš pričati, mislim… (parallel) Ne, to nisu razgovori. Ja iznesem neku misao i onda pretpostavim da bih trebao o tome razmisliti. Nije to vrlo duboko, pogotovo ne ovih dana kada moram mnogo fizički raditi. (L) Postoji li još nešto što možete reći parallelu ili da se drugi put vratimo na ovu temu? O: Pustite ga da razmisli, radi, poradi na umrežavanju s drugima, pa ćemo vidjeti kasnije. Za sada, doviđenja. (Galatea) Moraju li ići negdje večeras? (L) Sigurna sam da moraju. Imaju druge sastanke. (Pierre) Subota je navečer. Moraju ići u disko klub. KRAJ SESIJE Original sesije na engleskom možete naći ovdje. Related Articles: Posted in Kasiopejske sesije