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Session Date: August 16th 2014 Laura and Andromeda at the board Pierre, Perceval, Chu, Data, PoB, Kniall, parallel, Breton, thorbiorn, Mr. Scott, Alana, Timótheos Joining via Skype from NE USA: Pete, Puck, Renaissance, Nancy2feathers, Emma, seek10, Divide By Zero, Richard S, Jerry, Bear, Nuke, Pegasus, and the doggies Pancho and Rusty Q: (L) Okay this is August the 16th, 2014. Did you know that this is the anniversary of that UFO that flew over our pool in Florida back in 1992? 22 years since that UFO flew over my pool, and all the weird stuff in my life began to happen, and everything went crazy... Jesus Christ! 22 years. Alright... Let's see if we can get something going on here... A: Hello to all from Gorimlea of Cassiopaea. Q: (L) Okay. I guess we want to start out with your questions. Are you ready, Puck? {Private exchange redacted.} (Puck) So the question was on auto-spirit release. Is it safe or effective, and are there any guidelines that they could provide? (L) On auto-spirit release? Say it again. It's not clear. (Puck) So it's on auto-spirit release - like SRT on yourself. Is it safe and effective, and there any guidelines that they can provide? A: You need to define this "auto-spirit release". Q: (L) Well, I'm sure they know what "auto-spirit release" is, but before they give an answer, they want it clear what you're talking about. How are you talking about doing this? Are you talking about self-hypnosis, are you talking about just doing it a meditative state? Are you talking about doing it through automatic writing? Or with a Ouija board? Exactly how are you thinking of doing it? (Perceval) Would you like me to reframe your question? (Puck) Sure. (Perceval) The question should be, is it possible to do auto-spirit release - i.e. spirit release on yourself - and if so, how would you go about it? (L) Okay, well let's break that into two questions: Is it possible to do spirit release on yourself? A: Yes. Q: (Perceval) How might one go about it if one were to even attempt such an outlandish thing? [laughter] A: First one needs to identify the entities and various parameters surrounding the situation. This is best done via meditation or dream work, or even viewing and intuitive feedback by another who is sensitive. Once the situation is understood, one can then appeal to the entity or utilize various applications of discipline. Keep in mind that the matter of will and discipline are paramount in spiritual hygiene. Q: (Perceval) It brings back that idea - I don't know where I heard it first - that for spirit release, if you've got attachments, they basically hang on to you if there's something that they get out of it. So basically, you stop doing what it is that attracts them: bad habits, bad attitudes, programs... (L) And then they leave. (Perceval) That's SRT. (Chu) Focusing too much on doing auto-SRT is actually focusing on yourself. But if you just do the Work basically, they'll leave. (L) Pretty much. (Chu) So why even think about doing auto-SRT? (L) Well, I think it's useful to know the parameters and things. It's helpful for some people - I know it was for me - to know that the health issue I had was from an attachment. That was helpful to me. And then, I began to apply discipline. I mean, I knew that “Twisted Sister” was in there! [laughter] And I was gonna do EVERYTHING that she HATED!! And every time she made my shoulder hurt, I just kept doing whatever it was that made it hurt. I remember the instant that she left. It was like electricity flying through my body. It was like being struck by lightning. There was this flash of light in my head, and the energy went from one arm across my shoulders, and out the other one. And that was it. In that moment, I was actively disciplining myself by forcing myself to swim in spite of the excruciating pain that I was experiencing. For me, it was excruciatingly painful to move my arm like that. It was like screaming pain, and I just kept doing it... stroke after stroke after stroke. And I was even talking in my head saying, "Alright, witch! Take that one! I am NOT stopping!" And I was saying this sort of thing in my head. I was having this conversation. Finally, it was like, "You might as well just give up, because I am never giving up!" And that's when it left. It's kind of an auto-spirit release. So, having a little identification of what's going on is helpful. Like if you have an alcoholism problem, or gambling, or whatever. (Chu) Yeah but what I'm saying is you can leave it as an option, like yeah, maybe I have this pain because of an attachment. But the key point is to discipline yourself whether there is an attachment or a program or whatever. (L) It's true that if there's some part of you, some aspect, some habit, or whatever. This is what Gurdjieff talks about. How many of those "many I's" that he talks about are attachments? And his method was this discipline, this self-observation, the struggle between ‘yes’ and ‘no’ leading to giving birth to the Real I, and having it become the fused master. How do we know that wasn't a kind of SRT? Let's ask that question. Was Gurdjieff's method also beneficial for eliminating spirit attachments? A: Yes. Q: (L) As I just described, more or less, that by acts of will and discipline and observing and all of those things, that the fusing of the real self and the discipline that that requires means that there is no longer a frequency match for the attachments? Is that correct? A: Yes. Q: (Perceval) I think SRT is useful from a conceptual point of view, like, "This isn't really me!" It may not actually me that's thinking or acting this way. (L) You begin to talk to it. (Perceval) Otherwise you might tend to think that your natural traits are you. So, to have that idea that it may not be me and it might be an external influence is useful. (L) It's very useful. (Perceval) As a motivator, ya know? (L) Like I talked to this pain. If you have a habit, or if you have a characteristic, talk to it! Isolate it, and talk to it. "YOU are not in charge here!" (Perceval) Is it very much the same as in real life when you hear about people falling in with a bad crowd? Like drinking buddies, and he drinks because they drink, etc... But when he decides he doesn't want to do that anymore, they go away; they don't want to hang out with him anymore. So, that's a parallel with real life. But as soon as you stop doing it, they don't want to be your friend anymore. You're not in the gang anymore. They leave you. A: Exactly! Q: (PoB) So it basically doesn't matter if it's a spirit attachment, or it's the false personality, or a parent's voice directing you... What it is, you fight the same way with everything. (L) Yeah, I think so. Is that it? A: Yes. Q: (L) So, what can people be doing... I mean... (Perceval) Work on their programs. They can call their programs attachments if they want. Doesn't matter what you call it, as long as you're working on it. You can say it's an ingrained habit I got from my parents, or it's an attachment. Either way... (Chu) I want to change it because it's not me. (L) It's not who I really am. It's not who I really want to be, so it has to go! (Pierre) What was interesting in the example you gave is that you identified this pain as something external. In most cases, the more you force body pain, the more painful it becomes. But here, you went through the first step the C's described: identifying. You knew that's not normal. (L) Yeah, because clearly there are cases where if you have pain, you need to lay down and you need to rest. You need to wear a brace or something. Not all pain would be the way mine was. So, the useful thing here was to be able to identify that, to know that what it was was this attachment. Well, of course there was some actual injury that was involved with it, but it had been long enough for the injury to heal, but the pain persisted. (Perceval) I think part of the problem with SRT is that it's very appealing to people who decide that maybe all of their issues are attachments, and all it takes is a couple of phone calls to get rid of it and essentially deal with all of the issues. In other words, supplanting the idea of Work on the self with a couple of phone calls, and then “I'm clean! I'm done!” That's the draw of this kind of SRT work; it's a phone call. How easy is that? Someone else does it for you, supposedly. (L) I think it's a useful thing IF somebody is involved in the Work, and IF they continue working and they apply the discipline that is necessary before, during, and after to change their frequency. And that's what's important about asking the attached entity “when did you come? What was I doing? How was I vulnerable?” To get that kind of information... (Pierre) You identify the frequency, or he personality state that it is the attractor... (L) Yeah, and that's the useful thing. I think that's why they said that if you need SRT, you need to find the parameters. (Perceval) It's almost like by definition, if you have an attachment, then you also have an issue that needs to be worked on. Just getting rid of the attachment doesn't get rid of the issue. Say you were being morose or moody or whatever, and then some attachment comes along. Just because the attachment goes away, doesn't mean the issue is gone. You already had the issue that drew in the attachment in the first place. So, just getting rid of the attachment doesn't fix the issue. You also have to continue to work on yourself. Q: (L) What is the best way to Work on being aware? I mean, we talked about this last time, didn't we? And what did they say last time? Awareness is the key. (Pierre) Seeing the world as it is. (L) Consciously collecting truth and networking with others about it. (Perceval) They said something about when you see someone else feeling bad about themselves or whatever, do something to lift them up. It's associated with empathy as well: empathy for others. Awakening the emotional center. Session Date: 10 May 2014 Q: (L) Yeah, but everybody's got wounds and issues and all that kind of thing to work on. I mean... A: [letters come very quickly] Balance! A portion of a day can be spent on reflection, but not too much. This is the Wetiko Virus: obsession with the self and subjective personal issues. The next time you feel yourself slipping into despair, just tell others how you are feeling and think of something you can do for another to prevent them from suffering the same feelings. [letters come more slowly now:] Thus you will witness the birth of true empathy. Session Date: July 26th 2014 Q: (L) Well, that makes me think of a question to follow up on that. Something that's been on my mind is the difficulty so many group members have in getting themselves moving to do useful things, helpful things that help the network, help the group, help the Work, and to keep going. They sometimes get started, and then they peter out. Sometimes they try something too big, too much, too soon, too fast, and then they get discouraged. And I would like to know what is it about this group here that has made us able to put our noses to the grindstone for years and years... even under the most trying of circumstances. What is the quality that a person needs to be able to get - excuse me for saying this, but - to get their asses in gear, move, and keep moving? What is the quality? A: Awakened conscience. Q: (L) But how did we manage to get awakened consciences, and how can other people manage to do it, too? A: Recall how you started, you acted on your own as the conscience of the world. Q: (L) Well, what do you mean? How do you mean? A: Recall why you began to try to see everything that was happening on your plane of existence. Q: (L) You mean SOTT? My Signs of the Times? A: Yes Q: (L) Well, the reason why was because I could see that other people were not remembering from one freakin' day to the next what happened! I mean, they needed to be reminded every day, day after day, what was happening. A: And that is what developed your conscience. And those who helped were also in the process. Q: (Andromeda) You have to constantly keep awake about what's happening. (L) You have to get awake, you have to wake up, and you have to stay awake... all the time, about EVERYTHING. Any minute you allow yourself to sleep, you're putting your conscience to sleep. Dissociation is putting your conscience to sleep. Okay, that's all I wanted to ask about that. Go ahead. [Short break! Poncho and Rusty say hi... "AAAAW!"] (L) Okay, do you want to ask any more about that topic? Well, I have a question to follow up. Say a person has issues that they're really having trouble with, and really having trouble identifying the delimitation of those issues, is it possible to do these "viewings" amongst each other, or with each other, like on the forum? A: Yes, if a particularly sensitive individual will volunteer to devote about half an hour doing what is more or less "remote viewing". It is not necessary for them to attempt any kind of release, just reconnaissance. Q: (L) Do we have people sensitive enough? A: Most members fit the bill. This is a service that can be done for one another. Warning! : Only to be resorted to if the individual is unable to make progress or get past a blockage. Q: (L) Okay, how many questions you got left because we're running over time here? (Puck) A couple. (L) Okay, let's ask them. (Puck) What was causing the general malaise at ShellyFest? A: Frequency mismatches and serious frequency fence in the area. Q: (L) So, people were not in sync, I'm assuming, and that could have been... Well, was that due to the frequency fence? A: Mostly. Q: (L) Okay, next? (Puck) On the topic of Ebola, what's causing the rapid transmission of the virus? A: Mutating and becoming more virulent. Q: (L) So, it's becoming stronger? A: Yes. Q: (Perceval) Is it a contender for wiping out millions of people? A: A lot, of course. Isn't it interesting the similarity between psychopaths as virii of the human kind, and the activation and spread of the infectious kind? Q: (L) So, are you suggesting that this is one of those, "As above, so below" interactive things? That as psychopaths become more virulent and present in human society, so will Ebola become more virulent in the physiological realm? Is that what we're getting at here? A: Yes close enough. Q: (L) So in order to stop the progress of Ebola and any other following pathogens, human society would have to take care of the psychopathy problem? The mind virus, the Wetiko virus... A: Yes Q: (Puck) So we have a question about BRICS. Do the BRICS leaders have a genuine interest in improving the collective future for humanity? A: Partly, but as with everything in your realm, there are mixed motives and cross purposes. Q: (Puck) In a session, I think it was in 2010, the C's gave percentages of psychopathy in the population. We were wondering if those numbers are still accurate? A: Rising due to several factors including "downloading" activity of 4D STS. Q: (L) In other words, organic portals could be receptacles for evil STS soul infusions or connections. Or what about people who kill their own souls and consciousness by influence of psychopathy who then become receptacles? (Perceval) What about all those people who they said were in wars, who were taken after they were killed, reanimated, and set loose again for "activation" at a later time? A: All are factors. Q: (L) Okay, next? (Puck) Is Putin a descendant of Julius Caesar? [laughter] A: No, but member of the same soul group. Q: (L) Is that it? (Puck) That's all I have. [discussion about questions] (seek10) Is there any effect from our Twitter campaign? A: Yes, and it will grow with persistence and regular infusions of energy. Q: (L) Okay, is there any final bit of advice, or any last thing to say before we shut down for the night? A: Just work daily at becoming more aware on three levels Body and immediate environment, Wider world affairs, Cosmos and spirit. Q: (L) Shouldn't "spirit" go with "Body and immediate environment"? A: No, it is via the first steps that one achieves cosmic consciousness. Q: (L) I don't understand. (Chu) You have to work on the body and environment, and then understand the wider world at first. And then you can develop cosmic consciousness and spirit. (L) Oooh. So in other words, to achieve cosmic consciousness, i.e. true spiritual advancement, you have to expand your field of vision to be very wide? A: Exactly. Those who suggest that you must look only within live in a singular bubble. Q: (L) Alright. Anything else? A: No. Goodbye. (L) Sayonara! This was a long one. It's gonna be two days before Mr. Scott gets this one done. (Mr. Scott) PFFT! [laughter] (L) Oh, never mind. It'll only be one day. He's on top of this. Kissy kissy to everybody! Ya'll have some fun! And thanks for some REALLY good questions! This was a good one. Bye bye! [Thank yous, Goodbyes, end of Skype session] END OF SESSION
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Laura (L) i Andromeda za pločom Prisutni: Pierre, Perceval, Chu, Data, PoB, Kniall, parallel, Breton, thorbiorn, Mr. Scott, Alana, Timótheos Pridružili se putem Skype-a iz sjeveroistočnog dijela SAD-a: Pete, Puck, Renaissance, Nancy2feathers, Emma, seek10, Divide By Zero, Richard S, Jerry, Bear, Nuke, Pegasus i psići Pancho i Rusty Pitanje (P): (L) OK, danas je 16. kolovoz 2014. godine. Jeste li znali da je danas godišnjica onog NLO-a koji je preletio iznad našeg bazena na Floridi, SAD, tamo još 1992. godine? 22 godine otkad je taj NLO preletio preko mog bazena, i sve te čudne stvari su se počele događati u mom životu, i sve je poludjelo… Isuse Kriste! 22 godine. U redu… Idemo vidjeti možemo li nešto pokrenuti… Odgovor (O): Pozdrav svima od Gorimlea-e od Kasiopeje. Pretpostavljam da želimo krenuti s vašim pitanjima. Puck, jeste ste spremni? {Privatan razgovor izostavljen.} (Puck) Dakle, pitanje je bilo vezano za samostalno otpuštanje privezanih entiteta. Je li to sigurno ili učinkovito, i postoje li neke smjernice koje bi nam oni mogli ponuditi? (L) Vezano za samostalno otpuštanje privezanih entiteta? Ponovi to. Nije razgovijetno. (Puck) Dakle, vezano za samostalno otpuštanje privezanih entiteta – kao otpuštanje privezanih entiteta koje se izvodi na samome sebi. Je li to sigurno i učinkovito, i postoje li neke smjernice koje bi nam oni mogli ponuditi? O: Morate definirati to “samostalno otpuštanje privezanih entiteta”. (L) Pa, sigurna sam da oni znaju što znači “samostalno otpuštanje prvezanih entiteta”, ali prije nego što ponude odgovor, oni žele da se raščisti o čemu se tu govori. Kako misliš to izvesti? Pričaš li o samo-hipnozi, pričaš li o izvođenju toga u meditativnom stanju? Pričaš li o izvođenju toga kroz automatsko pisanje? Ili pomoću Ouija ploče? Kako točno to misliš izvesti? (Perceval) Želiš li da na drugačiji način postavim tvoje pitanje? (Puck) Naravno. (Perceval) Pitanje bi trebalo biti, je li moguće izvesti samostalno otpuštanje privezanih entiteta – tj. otpuštanje privezanih entiteta na samome sebi – i ako jest, kako bi se to moglo izvesti? (L) OK, dobro, idemo to raščlaniti na dva pitanja: je li moguće izvesti otpuštanje privezanih entiteta na samome sebi? O: Da. (Perceval) Kako bi to netko mogao izvesti ako bi se odlučio na tako nevjerojatan pothvat? (smijeh) O: Prvo ta osoba mora identificirati entitete i različite parametre vezane za situaciju. To je najbolje izvesti putem meditacije ili proučavanja snova, ili čak promatranja i davanja intuitivnih povratnih informacija od strane druge osobe koja je osjetljiva. Kada se postigne razumijevanje situacije, osoba se onda može obratiti entitetu ili koristiti različite primjene discipline. Imajte na umu da su volja i disciplina ključni za duhovnu higijenu. (Perceval) Vraćam se na ideju kako – ne znam kada sam to prvi put čuo – kod otpuštanja privezanih entiteta, ako su za tebe privezani entiteti, oni te se drže jer nešto dobivaju iz toga. U suštini, vi prestanete s tim stvarima koje ih privlače: loše navike, loši stavovi, programi… (L) I onda oni odu. (Perceval) To je otpuštanje privezanih entiteta. (Chu) Usredotočiti se previše na samostalno otpuštanje privezanih entiteta znači usredotočiti se na sebe. Ali ako se u suštini jednostavno bavite Radom, oni će otići. (L) Manje-više. (Chu) Zašto onda uopće razmišljati o samostalnom otpuštanju privezanih entiteta? (L) Pa, mislim da je korisno znati parametre i te stvari. Korisno je za neke ljude – znam da je bilo za mene – znati kako su zdravstveni problemi dolazili od privezanog entiteta. Meni je to bilo od pomoći. I onda, počela sam primjenjivati disciplinu. Hoću reći, znala sam da je “uvrnuta sestra” bila unutra! (smijeh) I imala sam namjeru raditi SVE što je ona MRZILA!! I svaki puta kada bi proizvela bol u mom ramenu, nastavila sam raditi ono što je proizvodilo bol. Sjećam se trenutka kad je otišla. Bilo je to poput elektriciteta koji leti kroz moje tijelo. Kao da te pogodi munja. U glavi mi je bljesnulo, i energija je krenula iz jedne ruke preko mojih ramena, i izašla kroz drugu. I to je bilo to. U tom trenutku, aktivno sam se disciplinirala tjerajući se na plivanje unatoč užasnoj boli koju sam osjećala. Za mene, bilo je užasno bolno na taj način micati ruku. Bila je to nepodnošljiva bol, a ja sam nastavljala to raditi… zamah nakon zamaha, nakon zamaha. I čak sam pričala u sebi govoreći “U redu, vještice! Evo ti ga na! NEĆU stati!” Ja sam u sebi govorila takve stvari. Vodila sam taj razgovor. Naposljetku, bilo je to kao: “Vrijeme je da odustaneš jer ja nikad neću odustati!” I tada je nestala. To je određena vrsta samostalnog otpuštanja privezanih entiteta. Tako da, od pomoći je identificirati što se događa. Kao kad imate problema s alkoholizmom, ili kockanjem, ili bilo čime. (Chu) Da, ali hoću reći da si to možeš ostaviti kao opciju, kao da, možda osjećam tu bol zbog privezanog entiteta. Ali ključno je biti discipliniran bez obzira postoji li privezani entitet ili program ili štogod. (L) Istina je da ako postoji dio tebe, neki aspekt, neka navika, ili štogod. O tome priča Gurdjieff. Koliko je od tih “brojnih JA” o kojima on priča, privezani entiteti? I njegova metoda je bila ta disciplina, to samopromatranje, borba između “da” i “ne” koja vodi do rađanja Pravog Ja, koji postaje sjedinjeni učitelj. Kako znamo da to nije vrsta otpuštanja privezanih entiteta? Idemo postaviti to pitanje. Je li Gurdjieffova metoda također korisna za eliminaciju privezanih entiteta? O: Da. (L) Kako sam upravo opisala, manje ili više, da se pomoću činova volje i discipline, i promatranja, i svih tih stvari, da sjedinjenje pravog sebe i discipline koja je potrebna za to, da to znači kako više nije prisutna frekvencija koja odgovara privezanim entitetima? Je li to točno? O: Da. (Perceval) Mislim da je otpuštanje privezanih entiteta korisno iz konceptualne perspektive, kao “Ovo nisam stvarno ja!”. Može biti da to nisam ja koji razmišlja ili se ponaša tako. (L) Ti počneš pričati s tim. (Perceval) Inače bi mogao pomisliti kako su tvoje prirodne osobine zapravo ti. Pa, imati predodžbu da možda to nisi ti, i da se radi o vanjskom utjecaju, može biti korisno. (L) Jako je korisno. (Perceval) Kao motivacija, znate? (L) Kao što sam ja pričala sa svojom boli. Ako imate naviku, ili ako imate osobinu, pričajte s njom! Izolirajte ju, i razgovarajte s njom. “TI nisi ovdje glavna!” (Perceval) Je li to slično situaciji u pravom životu kada čujete o ljudima koji su upali u loše društvo? Kao društvo za opijanje, i on pije jer oni piju, itd… No, kad on odluči da to više ne želi, oni odu; ne žele se više družiti s njim. Pa, to je paralela s pravim životom. Ali čim prestaneš s tim, oni više ne žele biti tvoji prijatelji. Nisi više dio ekipe. Napuste te. O: Upravo tako! (PoB) Tako da u suštini nije bitno radi li se o privezanom entitetu, ili lažnoj osobnosti, ili glasu roditelja koji upravlja vama… O čemu god se tu radi, borite se s tim na isti način kao i sa svime. (L) Da, slažem se. Je li to tako? O: Da. (L) Dakle, što ljudi mogu raditi… Hoću reći… (Perceval) Neka rade na svojim programima. Mogu zvati svoje programe privezanim entitetima ako žele. Nije bitno kako ih zovu, dok god rade na tome. Mogu reći kako se radi o ukorijenjenim navikama koje su dobili od roditelja ili o privezanom entitetu. Svejedno… (Chu) Želim to promijeniti jer to nisam ja. (L) To zbilja nisam ja. Ja to ne želim biti, stoga to mora otići! (Pierre) U ovom primjeru mi je zanimljivo što si identificirala bol kao nešto što dolazi izvana. U većini slučajeva, što više forsiraš tjelesnu bol, to postaje sve bolnije. Ali u ovom slučaju, prošla si kroz prvi korak koji su Kasiopejci opisali: identifikaciju. Znala si da to nije normalno. (L) Da, jer jasno je kako postoje slučajevi u kojima ako te boli, moraš prileći i moraš se odmarati. Moraš nositi steznik ili nešto. Nije sva bol kao što je moja bila. Pa, ovdje je bilo korisno to identificirati, znati kako se tu radilo o privezanom entitetu. Dobro, naravno da se tu radilo i o stvarnoj ozljedi, ali prošlo je dovoljno vremena da ona zacijeli, ali bol je i dalje bila prisutna. (Perceval) Mislim kako je kod otpuštanja privezanih entiteta problem u tome što ljudi možda odluče kako su svi njihovi problemi privezani entiteti, i sve što je potrebno jest obaviti nekoliko telefonskih poziva kako bi ih se riješili, i u suštini tako riješiti sve probleme. Drugim riječima, zamijeniti ideju Rada s nekoliko telefonskih poziva, i onda: “Čist sam! Završio sam!” To je privlačnost ovakve vrste otpuštanja privezanih entiteta; radi se o telefonskom pozivu. Kako li je to samo jednostavno? Netko to obavi umjesto vas, navodno. (L) Mislim da se radi o korisnoj stvari AKO se baviš Radom, i AKO nastaviš raditi i primjenjivati disciplinu koja je potrebna prije, tijekom i nakon promjene svoje frekvencije. I to je ono što je važno kada se privezanog entiteta upita: “Kada si došao? Što sam to radila? Na koji način sam bila ranjiva?” Dobiti takvu vrstu informacije… (Pierre) Vi identificirate frekvenciju, ili stanje osobe koje privlači… (L) Da, i to je korisna stvar. Mislim da su zato rekli da ako trebaš otpuštanje privezanih entiteta, moraš naći parametre. (Perceval) To je skoro kao da prema definiciji, ako imaš privezani entitet, onda također imaš i problem na kojem moraš poraditi. Riješiti se privezanog entiteta ne znači riješiti se problema. Recimo, ako si mrzovoljan, ili ćudljiv, ili štogod, i onda naiđe privezani entitet. Samo zato što privezani entitet ode, ne znači da je i problem nestao. Vi ste već u startu imali problem koji je privukao privezani entitet. Pa, samo rješavanje privezanog entiteta ne rješava problem. Morate nastaviti raditi na sebi. (L) Koji je najbolji način Rada na postizanju svjesnosti? Hoću reći, pričali smo o tome prošli put, zar ne? I što smo rekli prošli put? Ključno je biti svjestan. (Pierre) Vidjeti svijet kakav zapravo jest. (L) Svjesno prikupljati istinu i raspravljati s drugima (networking, op. prev.) o njoj. (Perceval) Rekli su nešto o tome kada vidite da se netko osjeća loše ili štogod, učinite nešto da im popravite raspoloženje. To je također povezano s empatijom: empatijom za druge. Buđenje emocionalnog centra. Citat iz sesije 26.07.2014. (L) Pa, to me je potaknulo na pitanje koje se nadovezuje na to. Na pameti mi je bila poteškoća s kojom se velik broj članova grupe susreće na svom kretanju u smjeru činjenja korisnih stvari, stvari od pomoći koje pomažu mreži, pomažu grupi, pomažu Radu, i ustrajanju u tome. Oni ponekad započnu, a onda nestanu. Ponekad pokušaju nešto prekomplicirano, previše, prerano, prebrzo, i onda se obeshrabre. I zanima me zašto ova grupa ovdje uspijeva prionuti poslu već godinama i godinama… čak i u jako teškim okolnostima. Koju kvalitetu mora osoba posjedovati kako bi – ispričavam se na ovome što ću reći – digla guzicu, pokrenula se, i ustrajala? Koja je to potrebna kvaliteta? O: Probuđena savjest. (L) Ali kako se to nama probudila savjest, i kako ostali ljudi mogu također to postići? O: Sjeti se kako si ti počela, djelovala si na svoju ruku, kao savjest svijeta. (L) Pa, kako to mislite? Kako to mislite? O: Sjeti se zašto si počela pokušati vidjeti sve što se događa na tvojoj razini postojanja. (L) Mislite na SOTT? Moj Signs of the Times? O: Da. (L) Pa, razlog je u tome što sam vidjela kako se ostali ljudi iz jednog vražjeg dana u drugi, ne sjećaju što se dogodilo! Hoću reći, trebalo ih je podsjećati svaki dan, iz dana u dan, što se događa. O: I to je razvilo tvoju savjest. I oni koji su ti pomogli su također bili dio toga procesa. (Andromeda) Moraš neprestano biti svjestan toga što se događa. (L) Moraš se buditi, moraš se probuditi, i moraš ostati budan… neprestano, vezano za SVE. Svakog momenta kada si dozvoliš san, tada uspavaš i svoju savjest. Disocijacija uspavljuje vašu savjest. OK, to je sve što sam htjela pitati o tome. Izvolite. [Kratka pauza! Poncho i Rusty pozdravljaju… “AAAAV!”] (L) OK, želite li pitati još nešto vezano za tu temu? Dobro, ja imam vezano pitanje. Recimo da osoba ima probleme koji ju muče, i muči se s identifikacijom razgraničenja tih problema, je li moguće ta “promatranja” održati među nama, ili međusobno, kao na forumu? O: Da, ako će naročito osjetljiv pojedinac dobrovoljno pristati posvetiti otprilike pola sata onome što se manje ili više može nazvati “gledanjem na daljinu”. Nije potrebno za njih da pokušaju s otpuštanjem, samo izviđanje. (L) Imamo li mi dovoljno osjetljive ljude? O: Većina članova jest. Ovo je usluga koju možete napraviti jedni za druge. Upozorenje!: Tome treba pribjeći isključivo ako pojedinac nije u stanju ostvariti napredak ili ukloniti blokadu. (L) OK, koliko još pitanja imate jer ovdje polako istječe vrijeme? (Puck) Nekoliko. (L) OK, idemo ih pitati. (Puck) Što je uzrokovalo opći osjećaj slabosti na ShellyFestu? O: Nepodudaranje frekvencija i znatna frekvencijska ograda u tom području. (L) Dakle, ljudi nisu bili usklađeni, pretpostavljam, i to je moglo biti… Dobro, je li to bilo zbog frekvencijske ograde? O: Uglavnom. (L) OK, sljedeće? (Puck) Vezano za temu ebole, što uzrokuje brzi prijenos virusa? O: On mutira i postaje sve zarazniji. (L) Dakle, sve je jači? O: Da. (Perceval) Je li kandidat za istrebljenje milijuna ljudi? O: Puno, naravno. Nije li zanimljiva sličnost između psihopata kao virusa čovječanstva, te aktivacije i širenja zaraznih vrsta? (L) Dakle, želite li reći kako je ovo jedna od onih “Kako gore, tako dolje” interaktivnih stvari? Kako psihopati postaju sve zarazniji i prisutniji u ljudskom društvu, tako će i ebola postajati sve zaraznija u fiziološkoj stvarnosti? Pričamo li o tome? O: Da, dovoljno blizu. (L) Tako da ako želimo spriječiti napredak ebole i ostalih nadolazećih patogena, čovječanstvo mora riješiti problem psihopatije? Virus uma, Wetiko virus… O: Da. (Puck) Imamo pitanje vezano za BRICS. Imaju li vođe BRICS-a istinsku želju unaprijediti kolektivnu budućnost čovječanstva? O: Djelomično, ali kao i svugdje u vašoj stvarnosti, postoje pomiješani motivi i konfliktni interesi. (Puck) U sesiji, mislim da je to bilo 2010. godine, Kasiopejci su dali postotke psihopatije u populacijama. Zanima nas jesu li te brojke i dalje točne? O: One rastu zbog nekoliko faktora, uključujući i “download” aktivnosti od strane 4D OPS. (L) Drugim riječima, organski portali mogu biti spremnici zlih OPS infuzija duša ili povezivanja duša. Ili što s ljudima koji ubijaju vlastite duše i svijest pod utjecajem psihopatije i onda postaju spremnici? (Perceval) A što s onim ljudima za koje su rekli da su bili u ratovima, koji su bili oteti nakon što su ubijeni, oživljeni, i oslobođeni za kasniju “aktivaciju”? (L) Da… O: To su sve faktori. (L) OK, sljedeće? (Puck) Je li Putin potomak Julija Cezara? (smijeh) O: Ne, ali je član iste grupe duša. (L) Je li je to to? (Puck) To je sve što imam. [rasprava o pitanjima] (seek10) Ima li kakve koristi od naše kampanje na Twitteru? O: Da, i rasti će uz pomoć upornosti i redovnih priljeva energije. (L) OK, imate li kakav konačni savjet, ili nešto reći za kraj prije nego što završimo za danas? O: Samo radite svakodnevno na razvijanju svjesnosti na tri razine - Tijelo i neposredna okolina, - Šira svjetska događanja, - Kozmos i duh. (L) Ne bi li “duh” trebao ići s “tijelo i neposredna okolina”? O: Ne, putem prvih koraka pojedinac postiže kozmičku svijest. (L) Ne razumijem. (Chu) Moraš raditi na tijelu i okolini, i onda razumijevati šira svjetska događanja, prije svega. A onda možeš razviti kozmičku svijest i duh. (L) Aaaa. Drugim riječima, kako bi se postigla kozmička svijest, tj. duhovni napredak, moraš znatno proširiti svoju perspektivu? O: Upravo tako. Oni koji tvrde kako se mora gledati isključivo unutra, žive u izoliranom balonu. (L) U redu. Još nešto? O: Ne. Doviđenja! (L) Sajonara! Ova je bila dugačka. Scottu će biti za ovo potrebno dva dana. Scott) PFFT! [smijeh] (L) Oh, nebitno. Trajati će samo jedan dan. On sve drži pod kontrolom. Poljupci svima! Zabavite se! I hvala vam na nekim ZBILJA dobrim pitanjima! Ova je bila dobra. Pa pa! 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