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Right off let me say that this is not intended to be teaching - it is simply where I am at. Rev 17:1 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, "Come, I will show you the judgment of the great prostitute who is seated on many waters, Rev 17:2 with whom the kings of the earth have committed sexual immorality, and with the wine of whose sexual immorality the dwellers on earth have become drunk." Rev 17:3 And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness, and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was full of blasphemous names, and it had seven heads and ten horns. Rev 17:4 The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and jewels and pearls, holding in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of her sexual immorality. Rev 17:5 And on her forehead was written a name of mystery: "Babylon the great, mother of prostitutes and of earth's abominations." Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. When I saw her, I marveled greatly. Rev 17:7 But the angel said to me, "Why do you marvel? I will tell you the mystery of the woman, and of the beast with seven heads and ten horns that carries her. Rev 17:8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to rise from the bottomless pit and go to destruction. And the dwellers on earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will marvel to see the beast, because it was and is not and is to come. Rev 17:9 This calls for a mind with wisdom: the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman is seated; Rev 17:10 they are also seven kings, five of whom have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come, and when he does come he must remain only a little while. Rev 17:11 As for the beast that was and is not, it is an eighth but it belongs to the seven, and it goes to destruction. Rev 17:12 And the ten horns that you saw are ten kings who have not yet received royal power, but they are to receive authority as kings for one hour, together with the beast. Rev 17:13 These are of one mind, and they hand over their power and authority to the beast. Rev 17:14 They will make war on the Lamb, and the Lamb will conquer them, for he is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those with him are called and chosen and faithful." Rev 17:15 And the angel said to me, "The waters that you saw, where the prostitute is seated, are peoples and multitudes and nations and languages. Rev 17:16 And the ten horns that you saw, they and the beast will hate the prostitute. They will make her desolate and naked, and devour her flesh and burn her up with fire, Rev 17:17 for God has put it into their hearts to carry out his purpose by being of one mind and handing over their royal power to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled. Rev 17:18 And the woman that you saw is the great city that has dominion over the kings of the earth." The first thing I notice is this:- Rev 17:8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to rise At the time this prophecy was given, the beast "was not". However:- Rev 17:8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to rise from the bottomless pit and go to destruction. And the dwellers on earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will marvel to see the beast, because it was and is not and is to come. The imperative question is therefore, is the beast here yet? Rev 17:10 they are also seven kings, five of whom have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come, and when he does come he must remain only a little while. From "when he does come he must remain only a little while" I would conclude that the final beast is not actually here...yet. The reason I am talking about a "final" beast is because the vision is all about the JUDGEMENT of mystery babylon and that judgement does not occur until the time of the end, when she is riding the final version of the beast, the "eighth" who is of the seven. Let's just emphasize this point Rev 17:1 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, "Come, I will show you the judgment of the great prostitute who is seated on many waters, Rev 17:8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to rise from the bottomless pit and go to destruction. John is seeing the beast at the time of the judgement of the whore, when the beast that was, and is not, shall have come Now it starts to make sense. At the time of the prophecy, the beast "was not" BUT the beast John is seeing in the revelation is the beast that is to come. Once you clearly see this, everything falls into place. I believe the beast is here described:- Dan 8:21 And the goat is the king of Greece. And the great horn between his eyes is the first king. Dan 8:22 As for the horn that was broken, in place of which four others arose, four kingdoms shall arise from his nation, but not with his power. Dan 8:23 And at the latter end of their kingdom , when the transgressors have reached their limit, a king of bold face, one who understands riddles, shall arise. It is the resurgence of the Seleucid Empire that arose after Alexander - "the latter end of their kingdom", Rev 17:8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to rise from the bottomless pit and go to destruction. And the dwellers on earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will marvel to see the beast, because it was and is not and is to come. Rome was the sixth king - "one is". The revelation was given when the Kingdom of Rome was, "one is". Rev 17:10 they are also seven kings, five of whom have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come, and when he does come he must remain only a little while. That's a whole lot clearer, is it not? Now, Rev 17:10 they are also seven kings, five of whom have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come, and when he does come he must remain only a little while. Rev 17:11 As for the beast that was and is not, it is an eighth but it belongs to the seven, and it goes to destruction. The seventh King is still to come (at the time of writing, that is) and the beast is an eighth but belongs to the seven Rev 13:11 Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. Rev 13:12 It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed. The seventh King, is this the second beast of Rev 13? "two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. Is this seventh King the false prophet. Let us remember, the Lord Jesus is the last King who was also a Prophet. Therefore, the Seventh King, will he not also pretend to be a prophet? Ok, so far, so good. Now, what does this mean about our understanding of mystery babylon. Well, Rev 17:3 And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness, and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was full of blasphemous names, and it had seven heads and ten horns. Rev 17:12 And the ten horns that you saw are ten kings who have not yet received royal power, but they are to receive authority as kings for one hour, together with the beast. Rev 17:16 And the ten horns that you saw, they and the beast will hate the prostitute. They will make her desolate and naked, and devour her flesh and burn her up with fire, Rev 17:17 for God has put it into their hearts to carry out his purpose by being of one mind and handing over their royal power to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled When the final beast arrives, at some point the ten kings give their royal power to the beast and that is the end of mystery babylon. Is mystery babylon actually present today? Rev 17:9 This calls for a mind with wisdom: the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman is seated; Rev 17:10 they are also seven kings, five of whom have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come, and when he does come he must remain only a little while. Rev 17:11 As for the beast that was and is not, it is an eighth but it belongs to the seven, and it goes to destruction It appears that the answer is ... Yes. The "one is" head, Rome, is still with us, though now reduced to the feet of iron and clay as in Daniel 2. The "beast that was and is not, it is an eighth but it belongs to the seven". The beast the whore rides has existed at least since babylon. This beast has seven heads. The final beast that is to come, that was,and is not, is of the seven heads/mountains/kings (Greece was one of the seven heads). It will reappear, therefore it is an eighth but on account of it having existed before, it belongs to the seven. Sorted!!! So, we have a seventh King to come and the final beast kingdom, which is here described:- Dan 8:21 And the goat is the king of Greece. And the great horn between his eyes is the first king. Dan 8:22 As for the horn that was broken, in place of which four others arose, four kingdoms shall arise from his nation, but not with his power. Dan 8:23 And at the latter end of their kingdom , when the transgressors have reached their limit, a king of bold face, one who understands riddles, shall arise.
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Velika bludnica „I dođe jedan od sedam anđela što nose sedam čaša i prozbori mi: „Dođi, pokazat ću ti sud nad Bludnicom velikom što sjedi nad vodama velikim, s kojom su bludničili kraljevi zemlje i pozemljari se opiše vinom bluda njezina.“ Kao mjesto radnje možemo zamisliti otok Patmos gdje je živio sveti Ivan apostol i gdje je primio te objave od Boga… Tu mu se anđeo obraća i objavljuje mu…. Velika bludnica je opet jedna slika kao i – zvijer. U starom zavjetu BLUD je prije svega otpad od Boga, nevjera Bogu i preljub sa drugim božanstvima – idolima. Ovdje se radi o jednoj moći kojom duh zavodi ljude (posebno moćne ljude, državnike, a i obične) i širi to svoje idolopoklonstvo; otpad od Boga. Kad Ivan piše uvijek se to može shvatiti neposredno za ono vrijeme, za grad Rim koji je grad na sedam brežuljaka, ali i za svakod drugo vrijeme, posebno za Posljednja vremena. „i odnese me duh u pustinju“ Ne radi se o tom da tijelo i duša prebivaju na drugom mjestu, nego samo u duhu. Takvu pojavu imamo u životima svetaca. (Tako preko bilokacije (…) dobar dio noći putuje, druži se sa kardinalima, … ovo je moglo biti u tijelu i u duhu.) Bog nema zapreka. Ni prostora ni vremena. Sveci koji su imali viđenja njegova života mogli su vidjeti što se tada događalo. Moglo bi se reći daje Ivan prebačen u budućnost, da VIDI ŠTO ĆE SE DOGODITI. „Tu vidjeh Ženu koja sjede na skrletnu Zvijer, punu bogohulnih imena, sa sedam glava i deset rogova.“ Zvijer poznajemo od prije. Sad je na njoj puno bogohulnih imena. Stvar se u njenom slučaju pogoršava. I žena je ovdje u dominirajućem položaju. Njoj je Antikrist podanik. Pokušajmo zamisliti kome bi u našem vremenu odgovarao jedan takav opis…? Jedno DUHOVNO SREDIŠTE MOĆI KOJE ZAVODI CIJELI SVIJET. To je trenutno Amerika …New York… središte moći odakle se širi duhovno zavođenje po cijelom svijetu. Poveznica je to i sa židovima koji su otkako su odbili Krista imaju stalnu oporbu koja jača prema kršćanima… oni su posebno utjecajni u Americi, posebno u industriji zabave i filma i više poguban utjecaj. To nisu ortodoxni židovi nego posvjetovnjačeni. Ne prežu pred ničim i imaju moć. „Žena bijaše odjevena u grimiz i skrlet, sva u zlatu, dragom kamenju i biserju. U ruci joj zlatna čaša puna gnusobe i nečisti bluda njezina.“ Njen opis prikazuje bogatstvo i moć. Ono što zablješti ljude koji je vide tako…. To bi moglo odgovarati opisu. Ona se kreće u krugovima poznatih,… celebrity, mjenjala je državnike i moćnike… primjeri… Berlusconi… više žena … (preljubi i sa ženske i sa muške strane… ) „U ruci joj zlatna čašća bluda njezina…“ Razmeće se s onim što čini. Ističe to pred svima. I tako dodatno ljude zavodi… „Na čelo joj napisano ime – tajna: „Babilon veliki, mati bludnica i gnusoba zemljinih.“ Ima negativan utjecaj na cijeli svijet tog vremena… Kad je Bog odlučio uništiti Sodomu i Gomoru – to su bili posebno iskvareni gradovi to su bila žarišta iz kojih su se pokvarenosti kao gangrena širile na cijeli narod… LGTB… homoseksualci… Postavljaju određene geografske točke gdje je duhovna i ekonomska moć odakle se šire zablude… „I vidjeh žena pijana… „ Ona se opija tim progonstvom, mukama i krvlju svetih… Mržnja, kako vidimo može biti jaka.. može biti žešća od ljubavi i čovjek u mržnji može živjeti za to. Kad gledamo PROGONE KRŠĆANA u Kini onda vidimo da je to teško razumjet… do kojih granica to može ić, čovjek bude obuzet tim… Žeđ za tuđim mukama i krvlju i to ga opija i uznosi… Kad je vidjeh, čudom se silnim začudih. I Ivan se čudi, nije ni njemu jasno… Nato će mi anđeo: „Što s čudiš? Ja ću ti kazati tajnu te žene i zvijeri koja je nosi, zvijeri sa sedam glava i deset rogova“. Bog je onaj koji otkriva tajne, koji daje ključ kako razumjeti otajstva i ovo otajstvo kao i druga otajstva koja su obavijena velom tajne i razumjet ćemo ih kad se počnu događat. „Zvijer koju vidje bijaše i više nije; zamalo izlazi iz Bezdana i ide u propast.“ To je ono što možemo povezat sa glavom koja je bila ranjena na smrt, pa se oporavila. Jedna paralela s Bogom koji uvijek – Jest. U predhodnom razmatrahnju smo vidjeli da je Zvijer izišla iz Bezdana i da je osuđena na propast. „I zapanjit će se pozemljari – oni kojima ime, od postnka svijeta, nije zapisano u knjigu života – kad vide da Zvijer bijaše i više nije, a opet je tu.“ Pozemljari – to su oni koji žive samo za zamaljsko i koje Božje stvarnosti ne zanimaju. Indiferentni su. … ne žele donijeti sud o tom, ne zanima ih. Agnostici. „oni kojima ime, od postanka svijeta, nije zapisano u knjigu života – kad vide da Zvijer bijaše i više nije, a opet je tu. Tu se hoće mudre pameti!“ Ako netko ima sumnji da je pakao prazan – evo ovdje dokaza da nije. Ima onih koji nisu zapisani u Knjigu života i imat će završetak na drugom mjestu. „Tu se hoće mudre pameti…“ Potrebno je i promišljati o tom otajstvu odozgo… „Sedam glava sedam je bregova na kojima žena sjedi.“ Sedam brijegova može biti RIM i poveznica sa Ivanovim vremenom. Rim je centar ne samo politčki nego i centar duhovne moći. I zablude pronosi po cijelom svijetu. „A i sedam kraljeva: pet ih već pade, jedan jest, a jedan još ne dođe: kada dođe, ostati mu je zamalo.“ Tumači su tražili sedam kraljeva koji odgovaraju ovom opisu… Može vrijediti za to vrijeme, ali proročanstvo je to i za sva vremena, posebno za posljednja vremena… „I Zvijer koja bijaše i više nije, osma je, a iz broja je njih sedmero, i ide u propast.“ Deset rogova što ih vidje deset je kraljeva; oni još ne primiše kraljevstva, ali će – samo za jedan sat – primiti vlast kao kraljevi zajedno sa Zvijeri. Slika koja djeluje grozno za vidjeti. Tu vidimo kako se stvara jedna koalicija u Antikristovoj stvarnosti. Države se po cijelom dvijetu ujedninjuju. Afrika, Latinska Amerika, Azija… i možemo imati takvih velikih deset „kraljeva“ koji onda pokreću cijeli svijet. U jednom trenutku mogu se skupiti i sklopiti savez da im jedan čovjek bude na vrhu. Ti pokušaju objedinjavanja rastu… SAD, Afrika, Lat. Amerika, … Rusija već ima federaciju, … i sad je trenutak da Antikrist ima globalno savezništvo… koje mu omogućava da ima planetarnu državu. „Jedne su misli: svu svoju silu i vlast predati Zvijeri. Ratovat će protiv Jaganjca, ali će ih pobijediti Jaganjac: – i njegovi pozvanici, izabraniti, vjernici …“ Antikrist će im doći na čelo – njemu će predati svu vlast i silu. To je novi svjetski poredak (zadnjih 20-30 godina…. ) globalizacija… Kad nešto treba progurati u javnost, onda se to samo malo drugačije upakira da bude prihvaljivo… „– jer on je Gospodar gospodara i Kralj kraljeva“ Ovo globalno povezivanje je da se povede rat protiv Krista. No Jaganjčeva je pobjeda, bez obzira kako je neprijatelj moćan… Tu će sudjelovati oni koji je on pozvao, izabrao… Pred Drugi Kristov dolazak kršćani neće imati udio samo u patnji nego i u pobjedi. Bog je iznad svake sile, ma kako izgledala nepobjdeiva. Bog je iznad svega. I reče mi anđeo: „Vode što ih vidje, na kojima Bludnica sjedi, to su puci i mnoštva i narodi i jezici. To je dakle – svijet… Ono mnoštvo čovječanstva nad kojima se nalazi Bludnica i Zvijer… „I onih deset rogova što ih vidje i Zvijer – oni će zamrziti Bludnicu, opustošiti je i ogoliti, najesti se mesa njezina i ognjem je spaliti. Jer Bog im u srce stavi izvršiti naum njegov: da jednodušno predadu kraljevstvo svoje Zvijeri dok se ne ispune riječi Božje. Bog provodi svoj plan preko onih koji su zamrzili Bludnicu, Bog dopušta da to čine i imaju ovlast.. Protiv nje će se okrenuti oni koji su je štovali – da se domognu njenog bogatstva. Zamrzit će je. Današnja velesila je Amerika, a pitanje vremena kad će propasti… (Rusija… Amerika… jedva će dočekati da je raskomadaju. Nema tu milosti.) To se događa i danas. Ali iza toga je Božji naum. Svoj plan – da kazni Bludnicu za sva zavođenja i pustošenja duša… „Žena koju vidjeh grad je veliki što kraljuje nad kraljevima zemaljskim“ Kad su prvi kršćani i čitali Otkrivenje tu su pronalazili okrepu i utjehu u protivštinama. … Tako je i u Rusiji za vrijeme komunizma. Vidjelo se da svako zlo ima granicu i da je pobjeda Božja i u toj pobjedi ožemo sudjelovati već sada. bilješke sa duhovnih vježbi; voditelj don J.M.