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Originally posted by Tsurugi Originally posted by ANOK Originally posted by sirjunlegun Gravity would temporarily be reversed in some places. Pretty sure gravity cannot be reversed, seeing as it's a product of an objects mass? That's how it's stated in the textbooks. Of course, in reality, that is little more than a working hypothesis. No one knows yet what gravity is. We don't know if it is a force, or a condition of spacetime. If it is a force, we don't know how it is communicated. If it is a condition of spacetime, we don't know what mechanism induces the condition, nor how exactly that condition then interacts with objects to generate the effect we observe. The most we can say is there appears to be a correlation between the presence, quantity, and density of mass and the observable phenomena referred to as 'gravity'. As for how, and why, one is related to the other....no data. As far as gravity is concerned, no one is "pretty sure" about anything, from a scientific perspective, except that the phenomena is real. I wouldn't be so certain that it cannot be reversed when we know next to nothing about it. Originally posted by LeanneMarie reply to post by jinni73 Just saying he got it right with a few predictions. Originally posted by LeanneMarie reply to post by jinni73 Assuming he read the bible,and would want to plagerise it. He died over 500 years ago , i'd say it was definately a rumour to say he was an occultist. He's not here,so can't say so other wise. Not saying you're right nor wrong,but not saying i'm right or wrong either. Just saying he got it right with a few predictions. Definately interesting. Originally posted by jinni73 Originally posted by LeanneMarie reply to post by jinni73 Assuming he read the bible,and would want to plagerise it. He died over 500 years ago , i'd say it was definately a rumour to say he was an occultist. He's not here,so can't say so other wise. Not saying you're right nor wrong,but not saying i'm right or wrong either. Just saying he got it right with a few predictions. Definately interesting. Yep most people can only read between the lines but some of his quatrains were written in archaic french where there is no translation able to be done so how comes there are prophecies for all the sections without it being made up?, the publishing rights are jewish controlled and almost every famous person which is responsible for what we think about history or were the so called pioneers were allegedly involved with the occult but again we were not there and it would take me too long to explain how the world really works and how everything we think is wrong we have been brainwashed since the age of 0 also I cant remember what book I read stated they analysed 113 of his predictions all of which were wrong but they did'nt mention he got any correct now I guess they were choosing but he weren't no prophet with that record so you have to question why he is so famous I think the book was end time prophecies but i cant remember the author and i cant find it on amazon i'll check my stuff when i get a chance cos the book was very smart especially where it explains why people want to believe in the end times as they hate the world so much and want to start again even if it means them dying lol. Considering these, I came to the following conclusions: With clock-like regularity, sudden reversals and pole shifts are natural to the Earth. The result is worldwide destruction, and is supported by paleo-magnetic evidence and early manuscripts. The reversal of the poles is attributed to the harmonic cycle of the magnetic fields of the sun. Polar reversals can be calculated precisely on the basis of the sunspot cycle theory or the magnetic field theory, which the Maya and the Old Egyptians were privy to. However, this is not at all efficient: more electrical potential is lost than gained. Just like a battery that is almost empty, it is difficult to recharge and it becomes exhausted more easily and quickly. This is the situation with the "battery" of the magnetic field of the earth. For this reason one sees the force of the magnetic field diminishing, almost 60% over the last two thousand years. At this rate there will not be much left within a couple of decades! And then one can expect a reversal of the poles. But nobody knows in what way this will happen, nor what the consequences will be, in contrast to the Maya and the Old Egyptians who knew the terrible consequences only too well. Their science, their religion and way of life were completely based on them. They encoded their knowledge in Holy Numbers and in their architecture. False. There is no regularity to magnetic reversals. With clock-like regularity, sudden reversals and pole shifts are natural to the Earth. What evidence? Why would magnetic reversals cause worldwide destruction? The result is worldwide destruction, and is supported by paleo-magnetic evidence and early manuscripts. The Earth's magnetic field is produced by the Earth. The magnetic field of the Sun, at the Earth's distance from it, is a thousand times weaker than that of the Earth. Why would such a weak magnetic field affect the source of a much stronger field? The reversal of the poles is attributed to the harmonic cycle of the magnetic fields of the sun. Since the mechanism for magnetic reversals is not understood, predicting them is not possible. The Sun's magnetic field "reverses" every eleven years. Does the Earth's? The Maya and Egyptians had a sunspot cycle theory or magnetic field theory? According to whom? Polar reversals can be calculated precisely on the basis of the sunspot cycle theory or the magnetic field theory, which the Maya and the Old Egyptians were privy to. False. It has decreased by about 20% in the past 2000 years. It is as strong as it was 4,000 years ago and is twice as strong as it was 50,000 years ago. www.sciencedirect.com... For this reason one sees the force of the magnetic field diminishing, almost 60% over the last two thousand years. A new study indicates that there is a possible connection between the Earth's inner core and a magnetic reversal. The magnetic field reverses direction every few thousand years. [sounds kind of regular to me] If it happened now, we would be exposed to solar winds capable of knocking out global communications and power grids. Peter Olson and Renaud Deguen of Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland, used numerical modelling to establish that the axis of Earth's magnetic field lies in the growing hemisphere. While one side of Earth's solid inner core grows slightly, the other half melts, the scientists concluded in their research paper. Now the researchers speculate that there are signs that the next magnetic pole reversal may be underway. The rapid movements of the field's axis to the east in the last few hundred years could be a precursor to the north and south poles trading places, the researchers suggest. What we found that is interesting in our models is a correlation between these transient [shifts] and reversals [of Earth's magnetic field]," says Olson. "We kind of speculate there is that connection but the chaos in the core is going to prevent us from making accurate predictions for a long time." Bruce Buffett of the University of California, Berkeley, says the authors present an intriguing proof of concept with their model. "They are suggesting very cautiously that maybe this rapid change is somehow suggestive of us going into a reversal event," he says. "You could imagine if the field were to collapse it would have disastrous consequences for communication systems and power grids." Originally posted by Phage reply to post by Char-Lee False. There is no regularity to magnetic reversals. With clock-like regularity, sudden reversals and pole shifts are natural to the Earth. The ROCK records the magnetic field at the time it was created. The magnetic field reverses direction every few thousand years. Why would a reversal of the magnetic field expose us to solar winds? The atmosphere offers plenty of protection. But actually, it is the magnetic field which causes problems during geomagnetic storms. If the magnetic field collapsed there would be no geomagnetic storms to cause problems with the power grid. If it happened now, we would be exposed to solar winds capable of knocking out global communications and power grids. Originally posted by Phage reply to post by Char-Lee The magnetic field reverses direction every few thousand years. No it doesn't. Why would a reversal of the magnetic field expose us to solar winds? The atmosphere offers plenty of protection. But actually, it is the magnetic field which causes problems during geomagnetic storms. If the magnetic field collapsed there would be no geomagnetic storms to cause problems with the power grid. If it happened now, we would be exposed to solar winds capable of knocking out global communications and power grids. Earth has settled in the last 20 million years into a pattern of a pole reversal about every 200,000 to 300,000 years, although it has been more than twice that long since the last reversal. A reversal happens over hundreds or thousands of year, and not over night. This means a magnetic pole reversal is not a sign of doomsday. Originally posted by Phage reply to post by Char-Lee The magnetic field reverses direction every few thousand years. No it doesn't. Why would a reversal of the magnetic field expose us to solar winds? The atmosphere offers plenty of protection. But actually, it is the magnetic field which causes problems during geomagnetic storms. If the magnetic field collapsed there would be no geomagnetic storms to cause problems with the power grid. If it happened now, we would be exposed to solar winds capable of knocking out global communications and power grids. As I mentioned at the top of this article, the magnetic field of the Earth protects the planet from space radiation. The biggest culprit is the Sun’s solar wind. These are highly charged particles blasted out from the Sun like a steady wind. The Earth’s magnetosphere channels the solar wind around the planet, so that it doesn’t impact us. Without the magnetic field, the solar wind would strip away our atmosphere – this is what probably happened to Mars. Read more: www.universetoday.com... Originally posted by Phage reply to post by Char-Lee From the article you quoted: Earth has settled in the last 20 million years into a pattern of a pole reversal about every 200,000 to 300,000 years, although it has been more than twice that long since the last reversal. A reversal happens over hundreds or thousands of year, and not over night. This means a magnetic pole reversal is not a sign of doomsday. www.messagetoeagle.com... edit on 12/8/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given) What do you mean by quickly? In geological terms hundreds or thousands of years is very quick, not so much in human terms. Seems that number is very different where ever I look. Clearly some scientists think it can happen quickly. What does it take to cling to it when evidence doesn't support it or shows it is wrong? What good does it do to do so? Takes courage to at least have a view, an opinion and share it, though you be wrong in the end. Originally posted by Phage reply to post by Char-Lee What do you mean by quickly? In geological terms hundreds or thousands of years is very quick, not so much in human terms. Seems that number is very different where ever I look. Clearly some scientists think it can happen quickly. What does it take to cling to it when evidence doesn't support it or shows it is wrong? What good does it do to do so? Takes courage to at least have a view, an opinion and share it, though you be wrong in the end. edit on 12/8/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)
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Neujednačen rast Zemljine jezgre mogao bi objasniti zašto se njezino magnetsko polje zamijeni svakih nekoliko stotina tisuća godina, javljaju američki znanstvenici Kada bi se ova zamjena dogodila danas, bili bismo izloženi solarnom vjetru koji bi mogao prekinuti globalne komunikacije i isključiti električne mreže. Naime, čvrsta Zemljina unutrašnja jezgra s jedne strane malo raste dok se s druge topi. Peter Olson i Renaud Deguen s Johns Hopkins Universityja u Baltimoreu u svojoj su studiji upotrijebili numeričko modeliranje kako bi utvrdili da se os Zemljina magnetskog polja nalazi u polutki koja raste. Ovi rezultati pokazuju da se zamjene polja mogu povezati s rastom jezgre i ekscentriciteta Slika dolje desno). Prema nalazima stručnjaka predstavljenim u časopisu Nature Geoscience postoje naznake da je sljedeća zamjena na putu – brzi pomaci osi polja u posljednjih nekoliko stotina godina mogli bi biti najava smjene sjevernog i južnog pola. 'U našim modelima otkrili smo zanimljivu korelaciju između prolaznih pomaka i zamjena Zemljinih magnetskih polova', rekao je Olson i dodao: 'Pretpostavljamo da ova veza postoji, međutim, kaos u jezgri onemogućuje nam da napravimo točna dugoročna predviđanja.' Bruce Buffett s University of California u Berkeleyju kaže da autori istraživanja svojim modelom predstavljaju vrlo zanimljiv dokaz tog koncepta. Kliknite za uvećanje 'Oni vrlo oprezno ukazuju na mogućnost da bi brze promjene mogle biti najava zamjene polova', rekao je. 'Možete zamisliti kakve bi razorne posljedice imao pad polja za komunikacijske sustave i električne mreže.' Poznato je da Zemlju od Sunčevih oluja štiti njezino geomagnetsko polje, odnosno magnetosfera. Ovo područje djeluje kao štit od kozmičkih zraka koje bi inače razorile gornje dijelove atmosfere uključujući i ozonski omotač koji blokira štetno ultraljubičasto zračenje. U trenutku smjene polova naš bi planet na neko vrijeme ostao bez ove zaštite. Ranije zamjene polova, koje se događaju u intervalima od nekoliko stotina tisuća godina, ostale su zabilježene u stijenama. Geomagnetsko polje od prvih je mjerenja njemačkog znanstvenika Carla Friedricha Gaussa 1845. oslabjelo za oko 10 posto. U posljednjih 2.000 godina njegov je intenzitet pao za oko 35 posto. Istovremeno sjeverni magnetski pol sve brže klizi od sjevera Kanade prema Sibiru – početkom 20. stoljeća godišnje se pomicao za 10-ak kilometara, a do 2003. ova se brzina povećala na 40 km godišnje te i danas raste. - Sviđa vam se članak? Preporučite ga prijateljima putem ovih servisa: Pošaljite mailom