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أعوذ بالله من الشيطان الرجيم أب, إبنة, وكحول مقدّسة I take refuge from the accursed Satan, in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amin. Salaam and Welcome to the forum, Mekki. Jesus descends, he walks in into a church in Wednesday morning, he spends the entire day there, and no one shows up, he asks they reverend what's going on he tells him to come back in Sunday for that's when people come to worship. So Jesus returns in Sunday, to find the three rows full by mostly women wearing strange clothing above the knee and uncovering their hair except for some who wear strange hats. I have seen many, many Muslima's (Muslim women) wearing 'strange clothing above the knee and uncovering their hair'. I have witnessed them leave the masajid (mosques) only to go shopping at the malls to buy miniskirts and make-up. Did I mention that as soon as they were out of sight from the men, they quickly threw off their hijabs and started smoking? My friend, I do not mention these things to disparage Islam, but to show that we are all sinners. He takes a seat a bit near some women, he keeps his mind busy with trying to decipher how it is acceptable for women in this time to dress like that and sit among men in that way, but he couldn't help but to hear what the women were talking about, they were not talking about righteousness and giving advise to each other, they were back biting and speaking lowly of other people in the church and outside. He thought maybe that's the nature of women, maybe those three men he saw at the end of the church are talking about goof matter, he moved next to them, but to his surprise they were talking about business and business. Losing all hope, he walks outside of the church, and as he approaches the door, he hears strange loud music coming from behind, he turns and see the reverend that he talked to earlier singing and dancing and making strange noises, soon after the women stand up and start dancing as well. He shakes his head and continues his way out. I once visited a masjid where the men and women were dancing and singing together. The song they were singing went like this; "Hasbi rabbi jall 'allah, mafi qalbi ghair 'ullah! Noori Muhammad sall 'allah!" Do you dance and sing songs like this at your mosque? Not far from the church, he sees a few men walking in to a building in humility smiling at each other and shaking hands, and into the same building but from another door, some women dressed decently were walking in. He walked in himself and sat down at the back and saw the man who keep walking in praying like he and the Israelites prayed, and then they sat down in silence. There were, here and there, couples talking to each other, so he moved next to one of the couples, they were talking about how they will visit a sick man they knew in school who's one of them heard he was in hospital. He moved next to another couple and they were talking about Job and his ordeals and he overcame them. I wonder if this is a masjid you're talking about now? My friend, I have visited many mosques where the people were 'back-biting' and talking of business. Should I judge these people based on that? Suddenly a man stood up and started chanting in a language very close to what Jesus used to speak. Hearing him, everyone stood up and made rows behind the leader and started praying, again in humility and in the same way Jesus prayed. Who is this Jesus of which you speak? The Jesus I know prayed like this;Luke 11:2-4 2 "And he (Jesus the Christ) said unto them, 'When ye pray, say, "Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth. Give us day by day our daily bread. And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.'" After the prayer ended and people started walking out, he approached the man who was leading the worshippers, and asked him if it is like this every day, the man answered affirmatively and added that it's like this five times a day, except for the dawn prayer where there's less people and the nights prayer where there's more. He also told him that in fridays and in holy days the place of worship, which is called a mosque, gets completely full and sometime people have to pray outside of the building. A smile appears on the face of Jesus and shakes his head, vertically this time, and walks out. Again, friend, this Jesus is a stranger. The Jesus I do know can be found in the New Testament and understood here- "We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the only-begotten, begotten of the Father before all ages. Light of Light; true God of true God; begotten, not made; of one essence with the Father, by whom all things were made; who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven, and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, and became man. And He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered, and was buried. And the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures; and ascended into heaven, and sits at the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again with glory to judge the living and the dead; whose Kingdom shall have no end. And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of Life, who proceeds from the Father; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets. In one Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins. I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen." Here, our Lord and Savior, reveals Who He is- The Second Person in the Holy Trinity
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kristian napisao: Dakle,,imamo osnove vjerovanja iste! jerovanje - Temeljni dokumenti Apostolsko vjerovanje Vjerujem u Boga, Oca svemogućega, Stvoritelja neba i zemlje. I u Isusa Krista, Sina njegova jedinoga, Gospodina našega, koji je začet po Duhu Svetom, rođen od Marije Djevice, mučen pod Poncijem Pilatom, raspet, umro i pokopan; sišao nad pakao; treći dan uskrsnuo od mrtvih; uzašao na nebesa, sjedi s desna Bogu Oca svemogućega; odonud će doći suditi žive i mrtve. Vjerujem u Duha Svetoga, svetu sveopću Crkvu, općinstvo svetih, oproštenje grijeha, uskrsnuće tijela i život vječni. Amen. Nicejsko - carigradsko vjerovanje Vjerujem u jednoga Boga, Oca svemogućega, Stvoritelja neba i zemlje, svega vidljivog i nevidljivog. I u jednoga Gospodina Isusa Krista, jedinorođenoga Sina Božjega, Rođenog od Boga, svjetlo od svjetla, pravog Boga od pravog Boga. Rođena, ne stvorena, istobitna s Ocem, po kome je sve stvoreno. Koji je radi nas ljudi i radi našega spasenja sišao s nebesa. I utjelovio se po Duhu Svetom od Marije Djevice i postao čovjekom. Raspet također za nas, pod Poncijem Pilatom mučen i pokopan. I uskrsnuo treći dan, po Svetom Pismu. I uzašao na nebo, sjedi s desne Ocu. I opet će doći u slavi suditi žive i mrtve, i njegovu kraljevstvu neće biti kraja. I u Duha Svetoga, Gospodina i životvorca; koji silazi od Oca i Sina. Koji se s Ocem i Sinom skupa časti i zajedno slavi; koji je govorio po prorocima. I u jednu svetu opću i apostolsku Crkvu. Ispovijedam jedno krštenje za oproštenje grijeha. I iščekujem uskrsnuće mrtvih. I život budućeg vijeka. Moje pitanje je,,dali se moramo,,trebamo ,približiti jedni drugima u svjetu gdje sve više ima ateista i agnostika,potaknuti onom Isusovom moiitvom !"Da svi jedno budu(velikosvećeničkom) sve više sekta,,antikršćana,,,,jesmo li braća u vjeri ili neprijatelji?"Ljubi bližnjega svoga",,kaže Bog! A oni pitaju"Gospodine,tko je naš bližnji!"?? Tko je naš bližnji,,pitam se?