<p>If I get your question correctly, then the answer is NO. Those <strong>do not</strong> contradict each other because</p>
<blockquote class="spoiler">
<p> the events you described above (first half of episode 1) happen in <strong>the Beta Worldline</strong>. In the Beta Worldline, the time machine is complete - hence there was no coordinate error and the machine did not crash. The time machine only crashed on <strong>the Alpha Worldline</strong>.</p>
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<p>You probably forgot since it was all the way back in episode 1, but Okabe <em>does</em> see the machine on the roof... not crashed, and hence he hears the scream. It's only after he leaves the building and sends the first D-Mail that he sees the crashed &quot;satellite&quot;.</p>

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<p>I'm sorry but <a href="https://anime.stackexchange.com/a/22037">Dustin's answer</a> is wrong. If Okabe was the one who got tricked, then the elements leading to WW3 in his timeline don't exist. Even if he relived those same days for a month, in his version of time, he never grabbed the metal oopa, to begin with, and he would have seen his self when he spied and tried to see how Kurisu died. He is also insinuating that there is an infinite loop of Okabes saving Kurisu within the same world line, which is just not proven.</p>
<p>But nonetheless, the Okabe from the other world line in the future and the present Okabe are the only ones to really experience her death.</p>
<p>The conflicting or contradicting part is in the Steins;Gate. It starts on the day of her death, meaning no time machine mumbo jumbo was created in the first place, and all things relating to stopping WW3 were already accomplished by his future self.</p>
<p>So, when he says &quot;This will be the most important 3 weeks of your life,&quot; he is not referring to his literal self, because the literal present self is the one in the Steins;Gate.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, his tricked self in that world line is the one who will experience everything he did, &quot;but how?&quot; is the question because, like I said, unless he is lying about the Okabe from the past experiencing those 3 weeks, then there is no way he could experience the same things he did if, in the tricked Okabe's version of time, those things he saw about Kurisu never happened, how they did for Okabe in the present/future.</p>
<p>Additionally, in the Steins;Gate, as I said, he starts off on July 28th, the day of her death, meaning there are no 3 weeks for him to experience because it never happened.</p>

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<p>I rewatched the last episodes (22, 23, 24). The last time I watched an episode of the anime, I noticed that there's a relation between the events that happened in ep 24 and 1.</p>
<p>Here's what I think. Okabe saved Kurisu by piercing himself for the blood pool so that the present Okabe (talking about the ep 1) would see/mistake her as dead in the first episode (rewatch from ep 24 to 1 to see the connection). The scream in episode 1 was definitely Okabe's (the Okabe from ep 24 when he pierced himself). However it also doesn't really make sense to me on how the D-mail was sent to Daru in episode 1 causing Kurisu not to remember meeting Okabe and herself being alive (referring to ep 2).</p>
<p>After thinking about stuff regarding the REAL plot of the whole anime series, I realized that in the first episode, Kurisu wasn't really dead. Okabe in the first episode mistook her as dead, which is exactly what Okabe in episode 24 wanted. The first D-mail which Okabe (1st ep) sent to Daru: &quot;Seems someone stabbed Makise Kurisu.&quot; (I forgot the exact words)</p>
<p>That caused the &quot;misunderstanding&quot;, wherein, if Okabe went back to the time when the D-mail/Phone Microwave didn't exist, Kurisu would be dead, which wasn't.</p>

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  <p> The scream you mentioned was BEFORE Okabe sent a text message.<br>
 The crash you mentioned was seen AFTER Okabe sent a text message. (and for clarification, the time machine didn't crash into the wall, it appeared there. It wasn't this "crash" which damaged the time machine either, it was the later rain storm)</p>
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  <p> When the time machine crash occurs, the time machine is damaged, because John Titor didn't calculate the co-ordinates correctly, so she can't travel back in time, ergo, Okabe can't go with her, and thus he can't scream. But in case of screaming, it was Okabe who went back in time, so the time machine landed correctly, ergo, no crash happened.</p>
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<p>Despite this, the first episode shows both of them happening same day.</p>

<p>Aren't these two events contradicting each other?</p>

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In Steins;Gate, aren't the time machine crash and screaming mutually exclusive?
# In Steins;Gate, aren't the time machine crash and screaming mutually exclusive?
Posted by: username_0 on 2014-01-13
> When the time machine crash occurs, the time machine is damaged, because John Titor didn't calculate the co-ordinates correctly, so she can't travel back in time, ergo, Okabe can't go with her, and thus he can't scream. But in case of screaming, it was Okabe who went back in time, so the time machine landed correctly, ergo, no crash happened.

Despite this, the first episode shows both of them happening same day.

Aren't these two events contradicting each other?
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## 5 answers
### Answer by username_1 on 2014-01-14. Score: 7
If I get your question correctly, then the answer is NO. Those **do not** contradict each other because

> the events you described above (first half of episode 1) happen in **the Beta Worldline**. In the Beta Worldline, the time machine is complete - hence there was no coordinate error and the machine did not crash. The time machine only crashed on **the Alpha Worldline**.
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### Answer by username_2 on 2014-03-23. Score: 3
You probably forgot since it was all the way back in episode 1, but Okabe *does* see the machine on the roof... not crashed, and hence he hears the scream. It's only after he leaves the building and sends the first D-Mail that he sees the crashed "satellite".
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### Answer by username_3 on 2024-06-23. Score: 1
I'm sorry but [Dustin's answer](https://anime.stackexchange.com/a/22037) is wrong. If Okabe was the one who got tricked, then the elements leading to WW3 in his timeline don't exist. Even if he relived those same days for a month, in his version of time, he never grabbed the metal oopa, to begin with, and he would have seen his self when he spied and tried to see how Kurisu died. He is also insinuating that there is an infinite loop of Okabes saving Kurisu within the same world line, which is just not proven.

But nonetheless, the Okabe from the other world line in the future and the present Okabe are the only ones to really experience her death.

The conflicting or contradicting part is in the Steins;Gate. It starts on the day of her death, meaning no time machine mumbo jumbo was created in the first place, and all things relating to stopping WW3 were already accomplished by his future self.

So, when he says "This will be the most important 3 weeks of your life," he is not referring to his literal self, because the literal present self is the one in the Steins;Gate.

Meanwhile, his tricked self in that world line is the one who will experience everything he did, "but how?" is the question because, like I said, unless he is lying about the Okabe from the past experiencing those 3 weeks, then there is no way he could experience the same things he did if, in the tricked Okabe's version of time, those things he saw about Kurisu never happened, how they did for Okabe in the present/future.

Additionally, in the Steins;Gate, as I said, he starts off on July 28th, the day of her death, meaning there are no 3 weeks for him to experience because it never happened.
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### Answer by username_4 on 2015-06-01. Score: 0
I rewatched the last episodes (22, 23, 24). The last time I watched an episode of the anime, I noticed that there's a relation between the events that happened in ep 24 and 1.

Here's what I think. Okabe saved Kurisu by piercing himself for the blood pool so that the present Okabe (talking about the ep 1) would see/mistake her as dead in the first episode (rewatch from ep 24 to 1 to see the connection). The scream in episode 1 was definitely Okabe's (the Okabe from ep 24 when he pierced himself). However it also doesn't really make sense to me on how the D-mail was sent to Daru in episode 1 causing Kurisu not to remember meeting Okabe and herself being alive (referring to ep 2).

After thinking about stuff regarding the REAL plot of the whole anime series, I realized that in the first episode, Kurisu wasn't really dead. Okabe in the first episode mistook her as dead, which is exactly what Okabe in episode 24 wanted. The first D-mail which Okabe (1st ep) sent to Daru: "Seems someone stabbed Makise Kurisu." (I forgot the exact words)

That caused the "misunderstanding", wherein, if Okabe went back to the time when the D-mail/Phone Microwave didn't exist, Kurisu would be dead, which wasn't.
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### Answer by username_5 on 2018-07-22. Score: 0
> The scream you mentioned was BEFORE Okabe sent a text message.  
> The crash you mentioned was seen AFTER Okabe sent a text message. (and for clarification, the time machine didn't crash into the wall, it appeared there. It wasn't this "crash" which damaged the time machine either, it was the later rain storm)
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