<p>The Ultra Super Saiyan transformation, is a forced increase in the power output of the Super Saiyan transformation and is not a new transformation. You could compare it to a Super Saiyan 2 transformation. The only difference would be that the Ultra Saiyan transformation increases muscle mass at the expense of speed.</p>

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<p>In the battle of Vegeta vs Trunks, when Trunks goes ultra super saiyan, Vegeta states: "are you still relying on that sluggish transformation?". </p>

<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc1dfGll0ak" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc1dfGll0ak</a></p>

<p>That leads me to think ultra super saiyan is indeed a (useless) transformation and not a state, but now in the manga Wiss states Goku has 5 transformations, 1,2,3 god and blue. Since Goku was also able to go Ultra Super Saiyan, what does this mean, is Ultra Super Saiyan a transformation or not?</p>

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is ultra super saiyan a transformation or a state?
# is ultra super saiyan a transformation or a state?
Posted by: username_0 on 2017-10-21
In the battle of Vegeta vs Trunks, when Trunks goes ultra super saiyan, Vegeta states: "are you still relying on that sluggish transformation?".

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc1dfGll0ak>

That leads me to think ultra super saiyan is indeed a (useless) transformation and not a state, but now in the manga Wiss states Goku has 5 transformations, 1,2,3 god and blue. Since Goku was also able to go Ultra Super Saiyan, what does this mean, is Ultra Super Saiyan a transformation or not?
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### Answer by username_1 on 2017-10-22. Score: 1 | Accepted answer
The Ultra Super Saiyan transformation, is a forced increase in the power output of the Super Saiyan transformation and is not a new transformation. You could compare it to a Super Saiyan 2 transformation. The only difference would be that the Ultra Saiyan transformation increases muscle mass at the expense of speed.
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