<p><a href="https://anime.stackexchange.com/a/21830/7579">This answer to another question</a> presents a case that Shinobu slipped into Koyomi's shadow about five minutes into Tsubasa Cat Part 4, when Koyomi went to look for her at the Mister Donuts where Mayoi saw her.</p>

<p>If we accept that, everything else falls into place. In the alternate timeline, with no Mayoi, Koyomi has no idea that Shinobu was at that Mister Donuts. He's panicked by her sudden disappearance and overburdened by the return of Black Hanekawa, so he forgets her love of donuts and never even thinks to check the donut shop. Then, as in the main timeline, Black Hanekawa finds him and offers to help look for Shinobu. Black Hanekawa attacks him when he refuses Tsubasa's love, but unlike the main timeline, Shinobu is not in his shadow, and he is killed. Shinobu later finds out and goes on a rampage, turning everyone into zombies.</p>

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<p>In the other timeline where Shinobu destroys the world, Araragi was killed by Tsubasa. Why didn't she help him in that timeline? In both timelines, he didn't find her so what was the difference?</p>

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I recall the anime being pretty vague about this--the giant, bloated novel that takes fifteen chapters to cover what was two episodes in the anime was probably more specific.
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How did Shinobu know where Araragi is when he was attacked by Tsubasa?
# How did Shinobu know where Araragi is when he was attacked by Tsubasa?
Posted by: username_0 on 2015-02-13
In the other timeline where Shinobu destroys the world, Araragi was killed by Tsubasa. Why didn't she help him in that timeline? In both timelines, he didn't find her so what was the difference?
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> **username_1**: I recall the anime being pretty vague about this--the giant, bloated novel that takes fifteen chapters to cover what was two episodes in the anime was probably more specific.  
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### Answer by username_1 on 2015-05-30. Score: 4
[This answer to another question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/a/21830/7579) presents a case that Shinobu slipped into Koyomi's shadow about five minutes into Tsubasa Cat Part 4, when Koyomi went to look for her at the Mister Donuts where Mayoi saw her.

If we accept that, everything else falls into place. In the alternate timeline, with no Mayoi, Koyomi has no idea that Shinobu was at that Mister Donuts. He's panicked by her sudden disappearance and overburdened by the return of Black Hanekawa, so he forgets her love of donuts and never even thinks to check the donut shop. Then, as in the main timeline, Black Hanekawa finds him and offers to help look for Shinobu. Black Hanekawa attacks him when he refuses Tsubasa's love, but unlike the main timeline, Shinobu is not in his shadow, and he is killed. Shinobu later finds out and goes on a rampage, turning everyone into zombies.
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