<p>Well, Zoro did spend those two years in a dark island/gloomy castle, so he probably didn't see much sun. Robin also spent her time in the mountains, I believe, which were hardly places to get sun tans (compared to her old job in a desert).</p>

<p>I don't think the skin pigment changes had anything to do with racism, as these kinds of changes were more associated with tans and less with race.</p>

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Ah okay, I got you. It did not mean anything to me until I read the article.
Hellion Cazzy
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But, then that begs the question, why wasn't vivi darkskinned? If Zoro and Robin got lighter because they weren't near the sun, Vivi should have been at least pre-time skip Robins shade. Same with all of the women from Shandoria, an inherently darker people (both Shandorians and Alabastians) have pale skinned women.
Hellion Cazzy
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2015-04-05T18:07:30.510Z
Vivi spent her entirelife in the blazing sun, along with all the Alabasta people but a lot of them (almost all their women) are pale. By your thought process, they should all look like people in the middle east.
Hellion Cazzy
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2015-04-05T22:41:19.110Z
@HellionCazzy Well Vivi is a girl, so she probably put up tan reducing creams to look prettier, her servants held up sun umbrellas and she was always inside studying unlike the boys that were outside playing and tanning. These days most Japanese girls want to look lighter, because it looks prettier on them. It's a typical beauty standard for Japanese girls, nothing more to it you know.
Peter Raeves
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2015-04-05T23:06:55.147Z
So the beauty standard on OP is being light skinned? Firstly, being from a desert region, she should've been born dark or at least brown.
Hellion Cazzy
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2015-04-05T23:13:59.133Z
I have never heard about her always being in, nor this skin lightening thing. I did see her playing in the basking heat with boys and girls though and I do know that most men are dark skinned in alabasta. Despite the fact that men and women are out in sun, sometimes the men actually more dressed than the women (shouldn't they get the darker tan?). And if there actually is some skin lightening cream (which is never mentioned in the anime) and vivi did stay inside most of the time (which we never see, we see her in the blazing desert, fighting and sweating like the other kids)
Hellion Cazzy
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2015-04-05T23:15:56.763Z
That still would not explain her not being at least slightly brown, by birth. She and all her people should be a little dark, regardless of what they try to change. Your response to Vivi doesn't make sense to me. And that still does not make up for all the shandorian men being brown and the women pale.
Hellion Cazzy
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2015-04-05T23:18:16.147Z
I know Vivi was in a lot before she met the rebel leader but after that, she was always out.
Hellion Cazzy
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@HellionCazzy Well I don't know if that's why Oda drew girls lighter skinned, but as far as I know the beauty standard in Japan is being light skinned. Basically like how in west-europe girls want to be tanned. They want to look darker, because it makes them look different and more exotic. The same happens in Japan where they want to be different and exotic by looking lighter.
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2015-04-05T23:32:36.200Z
Okay thank you. That is what I was trying to get answered with my question. I assumed their beauty standard was being pale. But every time I asked people made stuff up about the conditions the character was in. At least now I got a real answer. Peace
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<p>Oda does use race and culture in a lot of places and some of them may seem offensive to a group or race. One example would be underneath the Corrida Colosseum the Officer Tower has moon and stars which resembles the Turks. Earlier Ottoman's did have the control over of the Mediterranean Sea and the Black Sea markets. Ottoman's also had the biggest slave trade in that time and lots of slaves worked at the docks. </p>

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  <p>Is Oda racist?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>This may seem offensive to some Turks cause it's clearly the bad guys which remsebles to Turks but does that make Oda a racist?</p>

<p>It's hard to imagine someone who doesn't have any racial bias. But if you look at Fishman Island arc you'd notice that Oda tried to explain the whole racism thing as stupid.</p>

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  <p>So was it actually white washed or did these changes happen for some other reason?</p>
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<p>Nilone4's answered it effectively. In simple One Piece is an anime/manga series which needs to generate money by making what people want to see.</p>

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<p>In Japan, being white is a sign of being rich and wealthy since the working class is out in the fields so they would obviously have a darker skin tone. It's been like this for thousands of years. Oda is appealing to the wealthier class. There is a huge prejudice. You don't see many anime characters that have a darker skin shade anymore because Japan's definition of beauty is being white. There are African American characters yes but not the in between. And don't even get me started on the over-sexualization in One Piece and the RIDICULOUS reasons Oda gave for drawing Robin and Nami the way they're drawn in the timeskip. Also, go compare the straw hats timeskip to pre timeskip. It's like Luffy went from being 16 to 14 lol.</p>

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<p>After the two-year time skip, Zoro and Robin came back lighter skinned. I would have thought nothing of it, but after searching for "fishman racism" on Google, I ran into <a href="http://ittoryu-iai.tumblr.com/post/29321899821/racial-issues-in-one-piece" rel="nofollow">an article on Oda's racism towards "ethnic" people</a>. One Piece is my favorite anime and I watch it a lot, so I don't take any "white washing" argument lightly. I don't even want to think of Oda as having racial bias, but I won't ignore the facts.</p>

<p>The article discusses different aspects of One Piece that can lead one to believe that the show has some racist undertones, but I won't go into detail about the article. The story about racism in One Piece mentions that Oda did tell the animators to change certain things concerned with the two-year time skip, and two of the dark-skinned characters came back way lighter. Is Oda racist? I don't know but I can't say he isn't, as the article had valid and reasonable points to prove that he at least has a racial bias.</p>

<p>Then after reading the article above, I am sitting around thinking about it from time to time. So was it actually white washed or did these changes happen for some other reason?   </p>

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Could you reference the article? That way interested people could access it too. I would be interested in reading such an article. Also could you explain the jump you make from making a characters skin lighter to being racist. I don't see the connection there.
Peter Raeves
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http://ittoryu-iai.tumblr.com/post/29321899821/racial-issues-in-one-piece
Hellion Cazzy
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2015-04-05T17:32:58.420Z
I phrased it wrong, I meant some racial bias, not racism exactly. Anyways, in the article, she mentions the lighter skin tones thing. I was thinking they were white washed out of racial bias, not full blown racism.
Hellion Cazzy
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2015-05-26T14:29:02.473Z
Related: http://anime.stackexchange.com/q/7539/6166
Peter Raeves
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2016-03-30T00:46:11.727Z
Whether One Piece is racist and whether Oda is racist are two entirely different questions. A work of fiction has a degree of autonomy from its author. A racist can write a non-racist work and non-racist can write a racist work (perhaps unintentionally with the latter).
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Why was One Piece white washed?
# Why was One Piece white washed?
Posted by: username_0 on 2015-04-05
After the two-year time skip, Zoro and Robin came back lighter skinned. I would have thought nothing of it, but after searching for "fishman racism" on Google, I ran into [an article on Oda's racism towards "ethnic" people](http://ittoryu-iai.tumblr.com/post/29321899821/racial-issues-in-one-piece). One Piece is my favorite anime and I watch it a lot, so I don't take any "white washing" argument lightly. I don't even want to think of Oda as having racial bias, but I won't ignore the facts.

The article discusses different aspects of One Piece that can lead one to believe that the show has some racist undertones, but I won't go into detail about the article. The story about racism in One Piece mentions that Oda did tell the animators to change certain things concerned with the two-year time skip, and two of the dark-skinned characters came back way lighter. Is Oda racist? I don't know but I can't say he isn't, as the article had valid and reasonable points to prove that he at least has a racial bias.

Then after reading the article above, I am sitting around thinking about it from time to time. So was it actually white washed or did these changes happen for some other reason?
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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Could you reference the article? That way interested people could access it too. I would be interested in reading such an article. Also could you explain the jump you make from making a characters skin lighter to being racist. I don't see the connection there.  
> **username_0**: http://ittoryu-iai.tumblr.com/post/29321899821/racial-issues-in-one-piece  
> **username_0**: I phrased it wrong, I meant some racial bias, not racism exactly. Anyways, in the article, she mentions the lighter skin tones thing. I was thinking they were white washed out of racial bias, not full blown racism.  
> **username_1**: Related: http://anime.stackexchange.com/q/7539/6166  
> **username_2**: Whether One Piece is racist and whether Oda is racist are two entirely different questions. A work of fiction has a degree of autonomy from its author. A racist can write a non-racist work and non-racist can write a racist work (perhaps unintentionally with the latter).  
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## 3 answers
### Answer by username_3 on 2015-04-05. Score: 5
Well, Zoro did spend those two years in a dark island/gloomy castle, so he probably didn't see much sun. Robin also spent her time in the mountains, I believe, which were hardly places to get sun tans (compared to her old job in a desert).

I don't think the skin pigment changes had anything to do with racism, as these kinds of changes were more associated with tans and less with race.
> **Comments:**
> **username_0** (2015-04-05): Ah okay, I got you. It did not mean anything to me until I read the article.  
> **username_0** (2015-04-05): But, then that begs the question, why wasn't vivi darkskinned? If Zoro and Robin got lighter because they weren't near the sun, Vivi should have been at least pre-time skip Robins shade. Same with all of the women from Shandoria, an inherently darker people (both Shandorians and Alabastians) have pale skinned women.  
> **username_0** (2015-04-05): Vivi spent her entirelife in the blazing sun, along with all the Alabasta people but a lot of them (almost all their women) are pale. By your thought process, they should all look like people in the middle east.  
> **username_1** (2015-04-05): @HellionCazzy Well Vivi is a girl, so she probably put up tan reducing creams to look prettier, her servants held up sun umbrellas and she was always inside studying unlike the boys that were outside playing and tanning. These days most Japanese girls want to look lighter, because it looks prettier on them. It's a typical beauty standard for Japanese girls, nothing more to it you know.  
> **username_0** (2015-04-05): So the beauty standard on OP is being light skinned? Firstly, being from a desert region, she should've been born dark or at least brown.  
> **username_0** (2015-04-05): I have never heard about her always being in, nor this skin lightening thing. I did see her playing in the basking heat with boys and girls though and I do know that most men are dark skinned in alabasta. Despite the fact that men and women are out in sun, sometimes the men actually more dressed than the women (shouldn't they get the darker tan?). And if there actually is some skin lightening cream (which is never mentioned in the anime) and vivi did stay inside most of the time (which we never see, we see her in the blazing desert, fighting and sweating like the other kids)  
> **username_0** (2015-04-05): That still would not explain her not being at least slightly brown, by birth. She and all her people should be a little dark, regardless of what they try to change. Your response to Vivi doesn't make sense to me. And that still does not make up for all the shandorian men being brown and the women pale.  
> **username_0** (2015-04-05): I know Vivi was in a lot before she met the rebel leader but after that, she was always out.  
> **username_1** (2015-04-05): @HellionCazzy Well I don't know if that's why Oda drew girls lighter skinned, but as far as I know the beauty standard in Japan is being light skinned. Basically like how in west-europe girls want to be tanned. They want to look darker, because it makes them look different and more exotic. The same happens in Japan where they want to be different and exotic by looking lighter.  
> **username_0** (2015-04-05): Okay thank you. That is what I was trying to get answered with my question. I assumed their beauty standard was being pale. But every time I asked people made stuff up about the conditions the character was in. At least now I got a real answer. Peace  
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### Answer by username_4 on 2016-01-03. Score: 1
Oda does use race and culture in a lot of places and some of them may seem offensive to a group or race. One example would be underneath the Corrida Colosseum the Officer Tower has moon and stars which resembles the Turks. Earlier Ottoman's did have the control over of the Mediterranean Sea and the Black Sea markets. Ottoman's also had the biggest slave trade in that time and lots of slaves worked at the docks.

> Is Oda racist?

This may seem offensive to some Turks cause it's clearly the bad guys which remsebles to Turks but does that make Oda a racist?

It's hard to imagine someone who doesn't have any racial bias. But if you look at Fishman Island arc you'd notice that Oda tried to explain the whole racism thing as stupid.

> So was it actually white washed or did these changes happen for some other reason?

Nilone4's answered it effectively. In simple One Piece is an anime/manga series which needs to generate money by making what people want to see.

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### Answer by username_5 on 2016-01-01. Score: 1
In Japan, being white is a sign of being rich and wealthy since the working class is out in the fields so they would obviously have a darker skin tone. It's been like this for thousands of years. Oda is appealing to the wealthier class. There is a huge prejudice. You don't see many anime characters that have a darker skin shade anymore because Japan's definition of beauty is being white. There are African American characters yes but not the in between. And don't even get me started on the over-sexualization in One Piece and the RIDICULOUS reasons Oda gave for drawing Robin and Nami the way they're drawn in the timeskip. Also, go compare the straw hats timeskip to pre timeskip. It's like Luffy went from being 16 to 14 lol.
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