<p>According to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense#Non-traditional_senses" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Wikipedia</a>, pain <strong>isn't</strong> one of the <em>traditional senses</em>. It's marked under <em>non-traditional senses</em>.</p>

<p>I think that's the reason pain is NOT stolen together with tactile perception (well, I thought, before I looked deeper, pain is connected to the <em>touch</em> sense, but it seems not).</p>

<p>Traditional senses:</p>

<ol>
<li>Sight</li>
<li>Hearing</li>
<li>Taste</li>
<li>Smell</li>
<li>Touch</li>
</ol>

<p>These are 5 base senses (for more info, view <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_wits#The_.22outward.22_wits" rel="nofollow noreferrer">this article</a>). As you can see, <em>pain</em> <strong>is not</strong> listed. But there are others like:</p>

<ol>
<li>Balance and acceleration</li>
<li>Temperature</li>
<li>Kinesthetic sense</li>
<li><strong>Pain</strong></li>
<li>Other internal senses</li>
</ol>

<p>As you write, </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>she can curse to increase Erza's sensitivity to pain</p>
</blockquote>

<p>but then </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>she remove all 5 senses from her in <strong>other curse</strong>.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Pain is not a base sense.</p>

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If you could clarify your answer a bit more it would be pretty good ;)
Dimitri mx
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Check my edit, Pain is not in 5 senses.
Buzka91
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Looks allot better already, good job :)
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I once had "surgery" on my toe to remove a really bad ingrown toenail. They numbed me up good by injecting stuff directly onto my 4 main nerves, but still said i would experience Pressure, but no pain. Turns out they missed one and it hurt like hell, so they went back in and got it. From then on, I felt every move as they trimmed the nail all the way back to the root, but i didn't feel any real pain, just phantom pain because the pressure was so intense. +1 from me, I had it in real life but in reverse.
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Buzka91
<blockquote>
  <p><strong>Don't read the question below if you are not up-to-date to the Fairy Tail manga. It may contain spoilers</strong></p>
</blockquote>

<p>In the chapter 399-400 from Fairy Tail manga, Erza is fighting Kyouka to stop faces's activation.</p>

<p>During this fight, Kyouka used her curse to increase Erza's sensitivity to pain.</p>

<p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/IQ8vj.png" alt="enter image description here"></p>

<p>After this curse, she used another one to remove all Erza's five senses. But Erza continued to fight.</p>

<p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Ephz0.png" alt="enter image description here">
<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/xLRKr.png" alt="enter image description here"></p>

<p>One of the five senses is <strong>tactile perception</strong>. Without it, she should not be able to feel anything, including pain. Shouldn't it make Kyouka's first curse useless?</p>

<p>But somehow Erza continued feeling a lot of pain and suffering a lot.</p>

<p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/VncF9.png" alt="enter image description here"></p>

<p>How can she feel this amplified pain since all her senses were stolen?</p>

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Why is Erza able to feel pain during Kyouka's fight?
# Why is Erza able to feel pain during Kyouka's fight?
Posted by: username_0 on 2014-10-13
> **Don't read the question below if you are not up-to-date to the Fairy Tail manga. It may contain spoilers**

In the chapter 399-400 from Fairy Tail manga, Erza is fighting Kyouka to stop faces's activation.

During this fight, Kyouka used her curse to increase Erza's sensitivity to pain.

![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/IQ8vj.png)

After this curse, she used another one to remove all Erza's five senses. But Erza continued to fight.

![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/Ephz0.png)
![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/xLRKr.png)

One of the five senses is **tactile perception**. Without it, she should not be able to feel anything, including pain. Shouldn't it make Kyouka's first curse useless?

But somehow Erza continued feeling a lot of pain and suffering a lot.

![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/VncF9.png)

How can she feel this amplified pain since all her senses were stolen?
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## 1 answers
### Answer by username_1 on 2014-10-14. Score: 8 | Accepted answer
According to [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense#Non-traditional_senses), pain **isn't** one of the *traditional senses*. It's marked under *non-traditional senses*.

I think that's the reason pain is NOT stolen together with tactile perception (well, I thought, before I looked deeper, pain is connected to the *touch* sense, but it seems not).

Traditional senses:

1. Sight
2. Hearing
3. Taste
4. Smell
5. Touch

These are 5 base senses (for more info, view [this article](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_wits#The_.22outward.22_wits)). As you can see, *pain* **is not** listed. But there are others like:

1. Balance and acceleration
2. Temperature
3. Kinesthetic sense
4. **Pain**
5. Other internal senses

As you write,

> she can curse to increase Erza's sensitivity to pain

but then

> she remove all 5 senses from her in **other curse**.

Pain is not a base sense.
> **Comments:**
> **username_2** (2014-10-14): If you could clarify your answer a bit more it would be pretty good ;)  
> **username_1** (2014-10-14): Check my edit, Pain is not in 5 senses.  
> **username_2** (2014-10-14): Looks allot better already, good job :)  
> **username_3** (2016-06-01): I once had "surgery" on my toe to remove a really bad ingrown toenail. They numbed me up good by injecting stuff directly onto my 4 main nerves, but still said i would experience Pressure, but no pain. Turns out they missed one and it hurt like hell, so they went back in and got it. From then on, I felt every move as they trimmed the nail all the way back to the root, but i didn't feel any real pain, just phantom pain because the pressure was so intense. +1 from me, I had it in real life but in reverse.  
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