<p>You are over-thinking it. I guess we only talk about official localizations here, since in non-official ones, anything can be done.</p>

<p>When an official localization is made, some kind of contract is being signed between the possessor of rights for the manga (the author, a publishing house, doesn't matter), and the company that is going to make the localization. </p>

<p>Since this contract is an legal document, it covers, among other things, the limitations (if any) that will be set for the localizer. Obviously, since different countries have different laws regarding nudity in press (as in your example), the contract should probably have clauses that regulate such possible changes (censorship or decensorship). </p>

<p>Whether or not the author <em>himself</em> is aware of this, depends. Sometimes the holder of the rights will inform him, sometimes it will not. For example, when official localization of Spice and Wolf into Russian was being made, the author himself didn't know about it, since it was the publishing house who was holding the rights on the manga, hence it was regulating all the localization aspects. </p>

<p>And after all, if the laws of some country forbid, for example, nudity in press, then there is <em>no choice</em>. You either change the manga to meet the laws, or it is not going to be published. </p>

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Yes, I'm talking about official localizations. Could you cite a source about the Russian localization of Spice and Wolf? It seems an interesting case of study.
chirale
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@chirale, I could try to find it, it was a thread on that company's official forum. But it's in Russian, so will it be useful for you?
SingerOfTheFall
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@chirale, I found [this](http://ushwood.narod.ru/saw/horlo.png), it is a screenshot of Isuna Hasekura's (Spice and Wolf author) response to a letter sent by one of the forum users. I don't know Japanese, but I've seen the translation, and somewhere in the middle of the letter he is asking "what is Istari comics?" (Istari comics is the name of official localizer here in Russia; it's a publishing house) and says that he only knew about Spice and Wolf being localized in Taiwan, South Korea and America.
SingerOfTheFall
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SingerOfTheFall
<p>Censorship is usually seen as an act against the author's will. Talking with an editor in my country (Italy) working for a publishing house in the erotic manga market, he tells me that censorship for erotic manga is done in two verses: removing <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censor_bars" rel="nofollow noreferrer">censor bars</a> and obfuscation necessary in Japan (decensorship) and removing elements not suited to Western audience or in a gray legal area, e.g. child nudity. Both of those censorship and decensorship are done with the author consent, becoming a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-censorship" rel="nofollow noreferrer">self-censorship</a> and generating a new derivative work featuring important changes.</p>

<p>Shortly: is censorship of manga <em>always</em> done with author consent both in erotic and mainstream publications during localization? Is there a common practice around the world on this topic about manga localization? Are there any cases of censorship of manga publications done without author consent in Western countries?</p>

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The correct answer would be: Maybe, as nobody can say it for sure. However, I doubt it.
looper
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I'm more of the influence of, 'If the author wants their work in a certain area that doesn't like such-and-such scene in the series, then it'll get edited/removed.  They don't really get to say much about it.'  Take Pokemon (lost episodes), Freezing, Naruto, and Bleach for instance.
Makoto
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@Makoto here I'm talking about manga. In the talk with that editor, he tells that he will not publish anything that cross the lines I described above. So it seems more like "take it or leave" in manga localizations. The author was ok to rewrite himself the scene to adapt to a different audience though.
chirale
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Is manga censorship in Western countries always done with author consent?
# Is manga censorship in Western countries always done with author consent?
Posted by: username_0 on 2012-12-19
Censorship is usually seen as an act against the author's will. Talking with an editor in my country (Italy) working for a publishing house in the erotic manga market, he tells me that censorship for erotic manga is done in two verses: removing [censor bars](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censor_bars) and obfuscation necessary in Japan (decensorship) and removing elements not suited to Western audience or in a gray legal area, e.g. child nudity. Both of those censorship and decensorship are done with the author consent, becoming a [self-censorship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-censorship) and generating a new derivative work featuring important changes.

Shortly: is censorship of manga *always* done with author consent both in erotic and mainstream publications during localization? Is there a common practice around the world on this topic about manga localization? Are there any cases of censorship of manga publications done without author consent in Western countries?
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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: The correct answer would be: Maybe, as nobody can say it for sure. However, I doubt it.  
> **username_2**: I'm more of the influence of, 'If the author wants their work in a certain area that doesn't like such-and-such scene in the series, then it'll get edited/removed.  They don't really get to say much about it.'  Take Pokemon (lost episodes), Freezing, Naruto, and Bleach for instance.  
> **username_0**: @Makoto here I'm talking about manga. In the talk with that editor, he tells that he will not publish anything that cross the lines I described above. So it seems more like "take it or leave" in manga localizations. The author was ok to rewrite himself the scene to adapt to a different audience though.  
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### Answer by username_3 on 2012-12-19. Score: 11 | Accepted answer
You are over-thinking it. I guess we only talk about official localizations here, since in non-official ones, anything can be done.

When an official localization is made, some kind of contract is being signed between the possessor of rights for the manga (the author, a publishing house, doesn't matter), and the company that is going to make the localization.

Since this contract is an legal document, it covers, among other things, the limitations (if any) that will be set for the localizer. Obviously, since different countries have different laws regarding nudity in press (as in your example), the contract should probably have clauses that regulate such possible changes (censorship or decensorship).

Whether or not the author *himself* is aware of this, depends. Sometimes the holder of the rights will inform him, sometimes it will not. For example, when official localization of Spice and Wolf into Russian was being made, the author himself didn't know about it, since it was the publishing house who was holding the rights on the manga, hence it was regulating all the localization aspects.

And after all, if the laws of some country forbid, for example, nudity in press, then there is *no choice*. You either change the manga to meet the laws, or it is not going to be published.
> **Comments:**
> **username_0** (2012-12-19): Yes, I'm talking about official localizations. Could you cite a source about the Russian localization of Spice and Wolf? It seems an interesting case of study.  
> **username_3** (2012-12-19): @chirale, I could try to find it, it was a thread on that company's official forum. But it's in Russian, so will it be useful for you?  
> **username_3** (2012-12-19): @chirale, I found [this](http://ushwood.narod.ru/saw/horlo.png), it is a screenshot of Isuna Hasekura's (Spice and Wolf author) response to a letter sent by one of the forum users. I don't know Japanese, but I've seen the translation, and somewhere in the middle of the letter he is asking "what is Istari comics?" (Istari comics is the name of official localizer here in Russia; it's a publishing house) and says that he only knew about Spice and Wolf being localized in Taiwan, South Korea and America.  
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