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<p>When Index asks Touma what Endymion is, he mentions it's been visible before, including when she holds a grocery bag while standing next to him. This flashback is to footage from the end of the first II opening. This doesn't contradict the above placement of Miracle, although it does require said footage to occur early in (or before) II.</p>
<p>In particular, the aforementioned flashbacks are doctored; for example, the II opening doesn't include Endymion.</p>
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<p>This is supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek gag. Index is breaking the 4th wall a bit by pointing out how strange it is this space elevator was never pointed out before despite being under construction all this time in the background (because in real life it hadn't been conceived of yet so obviously it wouldn't be in the story back then), and Touma casually retcons it into existence with a few flashbacks where it's been inserted into a few scenes.</p>
<p>This is a way of acknowledging the awkwardness with which its inserted into the canon and timeline of the series and allowing the story of the movie to progress onward without further attention paid to it.</p>
<p>So, in answer to your original question, the timing is as you've sleuthed it out to be. It's meant to take place between the tree diagram arc and the festival arc, and they playfully retconned some scenes to make it fit into the timeline despite a lack of evidence for its prior existence. The commentary tracks on the movie also confirm this is the case.</p>

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Thank you. I'd be grateful if you could quote or summarise the relevant part(s) of the commentary, or link to it or a transcript thereof.
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<p>I'm currently rewatching <em>A Certain Magical Index</em> (including <em>II</em>) and <em>A Certain Scientific Railgun</em> (including <em>S</em>) in order by anime release date. Thus I've rewatched <em>Miracle</em> after <em>II</em> but before <em>S</em>. I remember <em>S</em> included a retelling of the strongest vs weakest plot from the original <em>Index</em> season, so this order doesn't in general match in-universe chronology. My attempt to place when <em>Miracle</em> occurs depends on the following facts:</p>

<ul>
<li>Uiharu is surprised to learn of a wheelchair-using Kuroko's early discharge from hospital, suggesting this predates her wheeling Kuroko during the Daihaseisai. In particular, <em>Miracle</em> would seem to slot between the Tree Diagram Remnant and Daihasei Festival arcs. (Because I haven't read the manga and don't remember <em>S</em> well, I'm familiar only with the Index arc for this festival.)</li>
<li>When Index asks Touma what Endymion is, he mentions it's been visible before, including when she holds a grocery bag while standing next to him. This flashback is to footage from the end of the first <em>II</em> opening. This doesn't contradict the above placement of <em>Miracle</em>, although it does require said footage to occur early in (or before) <em>II</em>.</li>
</ul>

<p>But there is <a href="http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index_Movie:_Miracle_of_Endymion#Impact_on_the_Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index_animated_universe" rel="nofollow noreferrer">an important subtlety</a>:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>The movie retcons several scenes from the Toaru Majutsu no Index anime
  to somehow fit the obvious elevator in the timeline. Toaru Kagaku no
  Railgun S would later insert the elevator into scenes where they were
  supposed to appear as shown in the movie.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>In particular, the aforementioned flashbacks are doctored; for example, the <em>II</em> opening doesn't include Endymion.</p>

<p>My reading of all this is that <em>Miracle</em> occurs when I've suggested, but results in some retcons of certain scenes as appropriate. Am I right, or is the retconning more radical than that? If so, the timing of Uiharu learning of Kuroko's discharge could shift.</p>

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When does *The Miracle of Endymion* occur?
# When does *The Miracle of Endymion* occur?
Posted by: username_0 on 2018-11-26
I'm currently rewatching *A Certain Magical Index* (including *II*) and *A Certain Scientific Railgun* (including *S*) in order by anime release date. Thus I've rewatched *Miracle* after *II* but before *S*. I remember *S* included a retelling of the strongest vs weakest plot from the original *Index* season, so this order doesn't in general match in-universe chronology. My attempt to place when *Miracle* occurs depends on the following facts:

* Uiharu is surprised to learn of a wheelchair-using Kuroko's early discharge from hospital, suggesting this predates her wheeling Kuroko during the Daihaseisai. In particular, *Miracle* would seem to slot between the Tree Diagram Remnant and Daihasei Festival arcs. (Because I haven't read the manga and don't remember *S* well, I'm familiar only with the Index arc for this festival.)
* When Index asks Touma what Endymion is, he mentions it's been visible before, including when she holds a grocery bag while standing next to him. This flashback is to footage from the end of the first *II* opening. This doesn't contradict the above placement of *Miracle*, although it does require said footage to occur early in (or before) *II*.

But there is [an important subtlety](http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index_Movie:_Miracle_of_Endymion#Impact_on_the_Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index_animated_universe):

> The movie retcons several scenes from the Toaru Majutsu no Index anime
> to somehow fit the obvious elevator in the timeline. Toaru Kagaku no
> Railgun S would later insert the elevator into scenes where they were
> supposed to appear as shown in the movie.

In particular, the aforementioned flashbacks are doctored; for example, the *II* opening doesn't include Endymion.

My reading of all this is that *Miracle* occurs when I've suggested, but results in some retcons of certain scenes as appropriate. Am I right, or is the retconning more radical than that? If so, the timing of Uiharu learning of Kuroko's discharge could shift.
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### Answer by username_1 on 2018-11-26. Score: 1 | Accepted answer
> When Index asks Touma what Endymion is, he mentions it's been visible before, including when she holds a grocery bag while standing next to him. This flashback is to footage from the end of the first II opening. This doesn't contradict the above placement of Miracle, although it does require said footage to occur early in (or before) II.
>
> In particular, the aforementioned flashbacks are doctored; for example, the II opening doesn't include Endymion.

This is supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek gag. Index is breaking the 4th wall a bit by pointing out how strange it is this space elevator was never pointed out before despite being under construction all this time in the background (because in real life it hadn't been conceived of yet so obviously it wouldn't be in the story back then), and Touma casually retcons it into existence with a few flashbacks where it's been inserted into a few scenes.

This is a way of acknowledging the awkwardness with which its inserted into the canon and timeline of the series and allowing the story of the movie to progress onward without further attention paid to it.

So, in answer to your original question, the timing is as you've sleuthed it out to be. It's meant to take place between the tree diagram arc and the festival arc, and they playfully retconned some scenes to make it fit into the timeline despite a lack of evidence for its prior existence. The commentary tracks on the movie also confirm this is the case.
> **Comments:**
> **username_0** (2018-11-26): Thank you. I'd be grateful if you could quote or summarise the relevant part(s) of the commentary, or link to it or a transcript thereof.  
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