<p>We learn in the first episode of <em>Mayoi Jiangshi</em> that Araragi time-travels the night of the end of summer break, which is August 20th.</p>
<p>However, in Ougi's conversation with Araragi at the beginning, both are wearing school uniforms and clearly are at school. So the conversation cannot have taken place right before the events of <em>Mayoi Jiangshi</em>, since the &quot;present-day&quot; events of the arc take place during the summer holidays.</p>
<p>Moreover, after the conversation, Araragi says in his narration:</p>
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<p>In the end, Ougi just wanted to teach me some trivia that all intersections have a three-second period where all lights are red [. . .] And I'm reminded of that trivia alongside memories of Mayoi Hachikuji. I'm reminded of those words along with a lost young girl. Every traffic light in the way was red. And in the instance she crossed on green, she was run over.</p>
<p>I recall it with the memories of that girl who died over 10 years ago. That summer's epic adventure. Along with that story that started as a petty concept but in the end grew into a giant tale that almost engulfed everything that was real.</p>
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<p>(Paragraph breaks are mine.) This is before a break in the story and the subsequent introduction of the events of August 20th.</p>
<p>Here, Araragi cannot only be recalling the story of Hachikuji's death; he must also be recalling his time-travel adventure in this narration of his thoughts. (The appearance of a number of frames associated with events late into <em>Mayoi Jiangshi</em> in this section provides additional support for this.)</p>
<p>The conversation must then take place at some unspecified point <em>after</em> the events of <em>Mayoi Jiangshi</em>. Thus, there is no inconsistency with Kanbaru's introduction of Ougi to Araragi &quot;on a certain day at the end of October&quot; in <em>Owarimonogatari</em>.</p>

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<p>In the beginning of Mayoi Jiangshi, we meet Ougi when she talks to Araragi in <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhEAMI4igZM" rel="nofollow">the traffic light conversation</a> (i.e. "Did you know that there is a time when all lights at an intersection are red?"). I didn't really think much of the fact that it was this random girl talking to him, thinking it was a friend from school.</p>

<p>Once I saw Ougi in the other ones in 2nd season / tsuki, I realized that that was also Ougi. Now that Owari is out, we see where he first meets Ougi. Because of that, I thought that this part of Owari was at the very beginning of 2nd season.</p>

<p>However, <a href="http://bakemonogatari.wikia.com/wiki/Monogatari_Series_Timeline" rel="nofollow">this site</a> puts it <em>after</em> Mayoi Jiangshi. How is this possible?</p>

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I was under the impression that the chronological order is something like this: 1.) the bulk of Mayoi Jiangshi (all the time-travelling); 2.) Owarimonogatari ep01; 3.) Araragi and Ougi talk about traffic lights.
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How does Araragi know Ougi in Mayoi Jiangshi?
# How does Araragi know Ougi in Mayoi Jiangshi?
Posted by: username_0 on 2015-10-16
In the beginning of Mayoi Jiangshi, we meet Ougi when she talks to Araragi in [the traffic light conversation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhEAMI4igZM) (i.e. "Did you know that there is a time when all lights at an intersection are red?"). I didn't really think much of the fact that it was this random girl talking to him, thinking it was a friend from school.

Once I saw Ougi in the other ones in 2nd season / tsuki, I realized that that was also Ougi. Now that Owari is out, we see where he first meets Ougi. Because of that, I thought that this part of Owari was at the very beginning of 2nd season.

However, [this site](http://bakemonogatari.wikia.com/wiki/Monogatari_Series_Timeline) puts it *after* Mayoi Jiangshi. How is this possible?
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> **username_1**: I was under the impression that the chronological order is something like this: 1.) the bulk of Mayoi Jiangshi (all the time-travelling); 2.) Owarimonogatari ep01; 3.) Araragi and Ougi talk about traffic lights.  
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### Answer by username_2 on 2015-10-17. Score: 5 | Accepted answer
We learn in the first episode of *Mayoi Jiangshi* that Araragi time-travels the night of the end of summer break, which is August 20th.

However, in Ougi's conversation with Araragi at the beginning, both are wearing school uniforms and clearly are at school. So the conversation cannot have taken place right before the events of *Mayoi Jiangshi*, since the "present-day" events of the arc take place during the summer holidays.

Moreover, after the conversation, Araragi says in his narration:

> In the end, Ougi just wanted to teach me some trivia that all intersections have a three-second period where all lights are red [. . .] And I'm reminded of that trivia alongside memories of Mayoi Hachikuji. I'm reminded of those words along with a lost young girl. Every traffic light in the way was red. And in the instance she crossed on green, she was run over.
>
> I recall it with the memories of that girl who died over 10 years ago. That summer's epic adventure. Along with that story that started as a petty concept but in the end grew into a giant tale that almost engulfed everything that was real.

(Paragraph breaks are mine.) This is before a break in the story and the subsequent introduction of the events of August 20th.

Here, Araragi cannot only be recalling the story of Hachikuji's death; he must also be recalling his time-travel adventure in this narration of his thoughts. (The appearance of a number of frames associated with events late into *Mayoi Jiangshi* in this section provides additional support for this.)

The conversation must then take place at some unspecified point *after* the events of *Mayoi Jiangshi*. Thus, there is no inconsistency with Kanbaru's introduction of Ougi to Araragi "on a certain day at the end of October" in *Owarimonogatari*.
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