<p>There is no rule currently known which prevents any person from killing the owner of a death note under normal circumstances.  </p>

<p>The only reasons a death note will not work on a person assuming that the victims name and face are known are: </p>

<blockquote>
  <ul>
  <li>the victim is very young</li>
  <li>the victim is very old (124 years old or older)</li>
  <li>the victim is already about to die in the next few seconds</li>
  <li>someone already misspelled the victims name too many times</li>
  <li>the victim's name was written in a second death note simultaneously (victim still will die)</li>
  <li>the victim's name was already written in any death note in a valid way (time of death before end of natural life span).</li>
  </ul>
</blockquote>

<p>(Please edit if I missed any.)</p>

<p>I almost always have to note on these questions that the rules available to us about the Death Note are not complete. In fact, the rules themselves state that even the shinigami do not know all of the rules about how a death note works.</p>

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kaine
<p>On the Death Note wiki under <a href="https://deathnote.fandom.com/wiki/Rules_of_the_Death_Note/How_to_Read_Rules" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Rules</a> it states </p>

<p>"An individual with Shinigami Eyes can see the name and lifespan of another human by looking at that person's face. By gaining ownership of a Death Note, an individual not only gains the ability to kill but also cannot be killed by a Death Note. From this point on, a person with a Death Note cannot see the life span of other Death Note owners, including him- or herself." </p>

<p>which I think means that no, you cannot kill a Death Note owner at all (using a Death Note, that is. You can probably still kill them the conventional way).</p>

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That *must* be a mistake. When Light and Misa meet, they repeatedly say that one might kill the other using the note and Light posses ownership of a death note in the end so X-Kira could have written Light's name in the book and Near's plan would have failed. It probably is a misunderstanding/ mistranslation of the fact that an owner of a death note is - amongst human - no longer considered prey, what is the reason why they can't see each other's life span. (Assumably Shinigamis don't see each others life spans either)
hajef
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Cluisanna
<p>Can the owner of Death Note be killed if another random person knows their face and name, writes the owners name in the owner's own Death Note? with a sheet torn out from it?</p>

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Did you ask this because of events in the recent Death Note film?
kaine
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Rule I: anybody's name who's written in the death-note will die.
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Can a Death Note Owner be killed with their own Death Note?
# Can a Death Note Owner be killed with their own Death Note?
Posted by: username_0 on 2017-08-28
Can the owner of Death Note be killed if another random person knows their face and name, writes the owners name in the owner's own Death Note? with a sheet torn out from it?
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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Did you ask this because of events in the recent Death Note film?  
> **username_2**: Rule I: anybody's name who's written in the death-note will die.  
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## 2 answers
### Answer by username_1 on 2017-08-28. Score: 3
There is no rule currently known which prevents any person from killing the owner of a death note under normal circumstances.

The only reasons a death note will not work on a person assuming that the victims name and face are known are:

> * the victim is very young
> * the victim is very old (124 years old or older)
> * the victim is already about to die in the next few seconds
> * someone already misspelled the victims name too many times
> * the victim's name was written in a second death note simultaneously (victim still will die)
> * the victim's name was already written in any death note in a valid way (time of death before end of natural life span).

(Please edit if I missed any.)

I almost always have to note on these questions that the rules available to us about the Death Note are not complete. In fact, the rules themselves state that even the shinigami do not know all of the rules about how a death note works.
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### Answer by username_3 on 2019-05-29. Score: 1
On the Death Note wiki under [Rules](https://deathnote.fandom.com/wiki/Rules_of_the_Death_Note/How_to_Read_Rules) it states

"An individual with Shinigami Eyes can see the name and lifespan of another human by looking at that person's face. By gaining ownership of a Death Note, an individual not only gains the ability to kill but also cannot be killed by a Death Note. From this point on, a person with a Death Note cannot see the life span of other Death Note owners, including him- or herself."

which I think means that no, you cannot kill a Death Note owner at all (using a Death Note, that is. You can probably still kill them the conventional way).
> **Comments:**
> **username_4** (2019-05-29): That *must* be a mistake. When Light and Misa meet, they repeatedly say that one might kill the other using the note and Light posses ownership of a death note in the end so X-Kira could have written Light's name in the book and Near's plan would have failed. It probably is a misunderstanding/ mistranslation of the fact that an owner of a death note is - amongst human - no longer considered prey, what is the reason why they can't see each other's life span. (Assumably Shinigamis don't see each others life spans either)  
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