<p>This idea (not pertaining to Raye, but to Light) was actually a  big dramatic device used in the story, as the use of the DN keeps people from Heaven or Hell is hinted at in the beginning of the story and is later to be revealed that death is the same for all, DN users or no. As mentioned before, the Shinigami we see in the movie is hinted to be Light, but this is most likely an Easter egg rather, than canon. As such, we can conclude that Raye probably also went to Mu, and would have whether he used the note or not.</p>

<p>However, Ohba has stated multiple times that his work is really up to the reader's interpretation, so I'd say go with whatever sounds the coolest to you.</p>

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<p>No, Ray Penber will go to nothingness when he dies, like all other humans. He will not exist anymore. This is related to the (mostly) Buddhist concepts of <a href="https://books.google.ca/books?id=smNM4ElP3XgC&amp;lpg=PA229&amp;ots=ZKAxX8v0ho&amp;dq=joshu+dog+rinzai&amp;pg=PA229&amp;redir_esc=y#v=onepage&amp;q=joshu%20dog%20rinzai&amp;f=false" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Mu</a> and Nirvana.</p>

<p>Eventually the original shinigami owner will write Ray's name in their death note and he will die. Ryuk states this at the <a href="https://youtu.be/PWB6Db1y2iw?t=144" rel="nofollow noreferrer">beginning of the series</a> (Ryuk's first appearance, english dub).</p>

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I don't think you understand what Mu is.  Perhaps you read the uncorroborated and seemingly fan-theory section in that wiki entry that awkwardly tries to equate it to a Christian concept. It is specifically a Buddhist concept, as confirmed by the series creator in the preceding section.
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I do understand what mu or 無 is and means. 'Go' was a poor choice or words there. A more accurate description would be more like snuffing out a candle, I suppose. Raye, like all other humans, will be non-existing or non-being.
Zasha Faith
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It also tends to be a lot more important to Zen than other sects of Buddhism.
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<p>I've just finished re-watching <em>Death Note</em> and the movie where we find out Light becomes a shinigami, and realised that Ray Penber also used the Death Note to write down names of his FBI colleagues in Episode 5 whilst on the train.</p>

<p>So my question is, does Penber also become a shinigami like Light? And if not, does he go to heaven or hell, as Ryuk stated that a human who uses the Death Note can't go to either. So is he like in some sort of void?</p>

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if by *"Light becomes a shinigami"* you are referring to [the Unnamed Shinigami](http://deathnote.wikia.com/wiki/Unnamed_Shinigami) i should point out that this is a [fan theory](http://deathnotefanon.wikia.com/wiki/Light%27s_Reincarnation_Theory) and not revealed to be canon
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What happened to Ray Penber when he died since he has used Death Note?
# What happened to Ray Penber when he died since he has used Death Note?
Posted by: username_0 on 2017-07-31
I've just finished re-watching *Death Note* and the movie where we find out Light becomes a shinigami, and realised that Ray Penber also used the Death Note to write down names of his FBI colleagues in Episode 5 whilst on the train.

So my question is, does Penber also become a shinigami like Light? And if not, does he go to heaven or hell, as Ryuk stated that a human who uses the Death Note can't go to either. So is he like in some sort of void?
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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: if by *"Light becomes a shinigami"* you are referring to [the Unnamed Shinigami](http://deathnote.wikia.com/wiki/Unnamed_Shinigami) i should point out that this is a [fan theory](http://deathnotefanon.wikia.com/wiki/Light%27s_Reincarnation_Theory) and not revealed to be canon  
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## 2 answers
### Answer by username_2 on 2017-11-16. Score: 2
This idea (not pertaining to Raye, but to Light) was actually a big dramatic device used in the story, as the use of the DN keeps people from Heaven or Hell is hinted at in the beginning of the story and is later to be revealed that death is the same for all, DN users or no. As mentioned before, the Shinigami we see in the movie is hinted to be Light, but this is most likely an Easter egg rather, than canon. As such, we can conclude that Raye probably also went to Mu, and would have whether he used the note or not.

However, Ohba has stated multiple times that his work is really up to the reader's interpretation, so I'd say go with whatever sounds the coolest to you.
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### Answer by username_3 on 2017-07-31. Score: 0
No, Ray Penber will go to nothingness when he dies, like all other humans. He will not exist anymore. This is related to the (mostly) Buddhist concepts of [Mu](https://books.google.ca/books?id=smNM4ElP3XgC&lpg=PA229&ots=ZKAxX8v0ho&dq=joshu+dog+rinzai&pg=PA229&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=joshu%20dog%20rinzai&f=false) and Nirvana.

Eventually the original shinigami owner will write Ray's name in their death note and he will die. Ryuk states this at the [beginning of the series](https://youtu.be/PWB6Db1y2iw?t=144) (Ryuk's first appearance, english dub).
> **Comments:**
> **username_4** (2017-08-01): I don't think you understand what Mu is.  Perhaps you read the uncorroborated and seemingly fan-theory section in that wiki entry that awkwardly tries to equate it to a Christian concept. It is specifically a Buddhist concept, as confirmed by the series creator in the preceding section.  
> **username_3** (2017-08-01): I do understand what mu or 無 is and means. 'Go' was a poor choice or words there. A more accurate description would be more like snuffing out a candle, I suppose. Raye, like all other humans, will be non-existing or non-being.  
> **username_3** (2017-08-01): It also tends to be a lot more important to Zen than other sects of Buddhism.  
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