<p>Based on the wording of your question; I believe there is no current classification for this denomination in the coffee market. </p>

<p>When you compare this with the electronics market; there are devices developed for the "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosumer" rel="noreferrer" title="Prosumer">prosumer</a>" market which are targeted at professional consumers (average Joe that can make it rain), but are not used to their full capacity. For example, I can buy the latest Macbook Pro laptop and only use it for iTunes, or buy a high powered Microsoft Surface Studio PC and only use Microsoft Paint because Photoshop is too expensive. </p>

<p>To start generating momentum to classify this marketing group, you could say that this group of people (without trying to be offensive) would be classified as lazy prosumers?</p>

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Huh. The "prosumer" analogy is really interesting. I don't think the coffee situation is necessarily about laziness, though: it's about working within constraints.

Here's an example: I like coffee drinks in the cortado / flat white family, but I don't have room on my kitchen counter for an espresso machine and a high-end grinder. Nor am I about to wait fifteen minutes for the espresso machine to come up to heat, etc. My solution: a double shot of Bustelo, made in the Aeropress, with hot (not textured) milk. Tasty, affordable, and space-efficient.
crmdgn
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Emmanuel Mendoza
<p>Rather than 'care but compromise' I would call them inventive, <a href="https://www.google.co.in/search?q=eclectic" rel="nofollow noreferrer">eclectic</a> and <a href="https://www.google.co.in/search?q=adventurous" rel="nofollow noreferrer">adventurous</a> coffee enthusiasts as contrasted with the <a href="https://www.google.co.in/search?q=purist" rel="nofollow noreferrer">purists</a> or puritans who believe there is a 'correct and proper' way to do things. You will find this great divide in every serious hobby field, including coffee and hi-fi audio which I am familiar with, but also in beer &amp; wine, automobiles, computers and fashion. Adventurous users are both confident and willing to think out of the box. As you noted in comments, it's also about finding creative personalised solutions to practical challenges:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>I like coffee drinks in the cortado / flat white family, but I don't have room on my kitchen counter for an espresso machine and a high-end grinder. Nor am I about to wait fifteen minutes for the espresso machine to come up to heat, etc. My solution: a double shot of Bustelo, made in the Aeropress, with hot (not textured) milk. Tasty, affordable, and space-efficient. – crmdgn [comment] <a href="https://coffee.stackexchange.com/questions/3791/is-there-a-group-identity-for-coffee-drinkers-who-care-but-compromise/3930#comment3609_3795">Sep 22 at 20:31</a></p>
</blockquote>

<p>The <a href="https://www.google.co.in/search?q=%22adventurous+coffee+enthusiast%22&amp;client=firefox-b&amp;dcr=0&amp;oq=%22adventurous+coffee+enthusiast%22&amp;gs_l=mobile-heirloom-serp.3..." rel="nofollow noreferrer"><strong>adventurous coffee enthusiast</strong></a> <em>(as Google shows, the term is already in general use; if it is not yet a group identity, it should be!)</em> is a bold innovator, not afraid to mix and match equipment and techniques, and is not particular about getting the 'perfect' cup of coffee -- for them it is more a matter of solving an interesting challenge or doing something new with the tools and materials available, in the field they love: as in, I have tried out so many unorthodox ways of making coffee (as also unconventional audio arrangements including the use of PA speakers in the home setting) for the pure thrill of tasting the resultant mix! Whereas a purist will not like to do so. </p>

<p>I have learned and understood a great deal about coffee by direct, sometimes unorthodox experimentation.  I don't see it necessarily as compromising on time, money or effort, but rather an assertion of creative independence, the quest for that beautiful and unusual variation, or just the sheer love of everything coffee.</p>

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"... the sheer love of everything coffee" :) indeed
Edoardo
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So true @eddyce... My only problem is that I can drink only 1 strong coffee a day (equivalent to 2 regular coffees). Luckily my family members will give me 3 orders and drink my coffee.
English Student
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I know... I am limiting my self to 3 / 4 espresso's and my next target is exploring the world of decaf ;)
Edoardo
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We live in South India, right in the middle of coffee growing country and the best coffee is inexpensive at the source: that means experimentation with brew combinations is highly affordable; we also get gifted finely ground coffee powder by the makers, and I literally have more coffee powder at any time than I can finish brewing. Ironically the people in my home state prefer tea which is also a major product of this region. In fact tea is more popular than coffee all over India. I am very sensitive to caffeine and decaf absolutely didn't help me but I am sure you will find it helpful @eddyce.
English Student
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what kind of coffee do you drink? I mean: espresso, filter, instant?
Edoardo
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@eddyce the 3 types of coffee powder available here are finely ground Robusta, medium-ground coffee-chicory blend and coarse ground Arabica. I make the basic black coffee concentrate using moka pot/ french press/ South Indian filter vessel/ home espresso machine, using various combinations of powder to achieve a 'substance base' of pure coffee and 'flavor overlay' of coffee-chicory. I usually use this black concentrate to make our famous 'South Indian filter coffee' which is a mix of black coffee decoction, hot milk and sugar. I also like to add cold milk to the black base to make iced coffee.
English Student
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_filter_coffee
English Student
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English Student
<p>On the surface, it seems that you can divide coffee drinkers into---very broadly---two groups.</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Artisan coffee drinkers. You make pour-over coffee with a gooseneck kettle, you hot-rod your espresso machine, you roast your own beans, whatever.</p></li>
<li><p>Mass-market coffee drinkers. Starbucks, Dunkin Donuts, flavored lattes, etc.</p></li>
</ol>

<p>(At least, this seems true in the US, which is the environment I know best.)</p>

<p>My question is this: <strong>is there a group identity for people who fall between those two poles?</strong> I'm thinking of <a href="https://coffee.stackexchange.com/questions/2032/using-an-areo-press-with-maxwell-house">this person</a>, who wants to use an Aeropress to make Maxwell House coffee, or someone approximating espresso in a moka pot, or someone making a Vietnamese coffee with Café du Monde, or someone who invests in good beans but brews in a <a href="https://rads.stackoverflow.com/amzn/click/B00008IHK5" rel="noreferrer">decent-but-not-stellar drip machine</a>. In all those cases you have someone who takes trouble with his or her coffee, but makes deliberate compromises based on cost/effort/time/whatever.</p>

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2017-09-14T06:06:55.987Z
low.income.artisan.coffee.drinkers.stackexchange.com is just for that!
MTSan
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2017-09-14T11:08:43.573Z
@uwnojpjm Not exactly. This is more like "I want good coffee (or a specific type of coffee), but I lack the time/money/space/energy/obsession to really go all out, so I'm going to get as close as I practically can."
crmdgn
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2017-09-14T11:09:12.060Z
@MTSan Ha ha ha.
crmdgn
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2017-09-14T23:24:31.370Z
Seriously, if one day we could grow millions, the Area51 is just for that. We can offer cost beneficial artisan ways of brewing coffee. Re-brewing used grounds type of questions have been asked a few times in this board. So, why not?
MTSan
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2017-09-18T21:58:28.143Z
You're creating your own categories so go ahead and do what you want. Someone else could easily divide differently. One friend of mine would lump Starbucks-drinker and gooseneck-owner as non-coffee drinkers and 
identify espresso-drinkers as the only real coffee drinkers. You're the taxonomist, make the categories you want. Also, artisan is a noun.
Unrelated
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2017-09-21T08:40:47.273Z
@Unrelated Thanks for the correction. :) Not a native speaker, but trying to pay attention.
MTSan
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2017-09-21T16:32:01.163Z
@MTSan I only make the correction because lots of native speakers use artisan as an adjective. Almost any company trying to claim "craftsmanship" will describe their product as artisan—so it makes sense that you then, when learning, would use artisan too. Still, artisan is the person and artisanal is the adjective.
Unrelated
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Is there a group identity for coffee drinkers who care, but compromise?
crmdgn
# Is there a group identity for coffee drinkers who care, but compromise?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-09-14)

On the surface, it seems that you can divide coffee drinkers into---very broadly---two groups.

1. Artisan coffee drinkers. You make pour-over coffee with a gooseneck kettle, you hot-rod your espresso machine, you roast your own beans, whatever.
2. Mass-market coffee drinkers. Starbucks, Dunkin Donuts, flavored lattes, etc.

(At least, this seems true in the US, which is the environment I know best.)

My question is this: **is there a group identity for people who fall between those two poles?** I'm thinking of [this person](https://coffee.stackexchange.com/questions/2032/using-an-areo-press-with-maxwell-house), who wants to use an Aeropress to make Maxwell House coffee, or someone approximating espresso in a moka pot, or someone making a Vietnamese coffee with Café du Monde, or someone who invests in good beans but brews in a [decent-but-not-stellar drip machine](https://rads.stackoverflow.com/amzn/click/B00008IHK5). In all those cases you have someone who takes trouble with his or her coffee, but makes deliberate compromises based on cost/effort/time/whatever.

**Tags:** coffee-culture

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: low.income.artisan.coffee.drinkers.stackexchange.com is just for that!  
> **username_0**: @uwnojpjm Not exactly. This is more like "I want good coffee (or a specific type of coffee), but I lack the time/money/space/energy/obsession to really go all out, so I'm going to get as close as I practically can."  
> **username_0**: @username_1 Ha ha ha.  
> **username_1**: Seriously, if one day we could grow millions, the Area51 is just for that. We can offer cost beneficial artisan ways of brewing coffee. Re-brewing used grounds type of questions have been asked a few times in this board. So, why not?  
> **username_2**: You're creating your own categories so go ahead and do what you want. Someone else could easily divide differently. One friend of mine would lump Starbucks-drinker and gooseneck-owner as non-coffee drinkers and  identify espresso-drinkers as the only real coffee drinkers. You're the taxonomist, make the categories you want. Also, artisan is a noun.  
> **username_1**: @username_2 Thanks for the correction. :) Not a native speaker, but trying to pay attention.  
> **username_2**: @username_1 I only make the correction because lots of native speakers use artisan as an adjective. Almost any company trying to claim "craftsmanship" will describe their product as artisan—so it makes sense that you then, when learning, would use artisan too. Still, artisan is the person and artisanal is the adjective.  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_3 on 2017-09-20. Score: 6 | Accepted answer

Based on the wording of your question; I believe there is no current classification for this denomination in the coffee market.

When you compare this with the electronics market; there are devices developed for the "[prosumer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosumer "Prosumer")" market which are targeted at professional consumers (average Joe that can make it rain), but are not used to their full capacity. For example, I can buy the latest Macbook Pro laptop and only use it for iTunes, or buy a high powered Microsoft Surface Studio PC and only use Microsoft Paint because Photoshop is too expensive.

To start generating momentum to classify this marketing group, you could say that this group of people (without trying to be offensive) would be classified as lazy prosumers?

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Huh. The "prosumer" analogy is really interesting. I don't think the coffee situation is necessarily about laziness, though: it's about working within constraints.  Here's an example: I like coffee drinks in the cortado / flat white family, but I don't have room on my kitchen counter for an espresso machine and a high-end grinder. Nor am I about to wait fifteen minutes for the espresso machine to come up to heat, etc. My solution: a double shot of Bustelo, made in the Aeropress, with hot (not textured) milk. Tasty, affordable, and space-efficient.  

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### Answer by username_4 on 2017-12-17. Score: 3

Rather than 'care but compromise' I would call them inventive, [eclectic](https://www.google.co.in/search?q=eclectic) and [adventurous](https://www.google.co.in/search?q=adventurous) coffee enthusiasts as contrasted with the [purists](https://www.google.co.in/search?q=purist) or puritans who believe there is a 'correct and proper' way to do things. You will find this great divide in every serious hobby field, including coffee and hi-fi audio which I am familiar with, but also in beer & wine, automobiles, computers and fashion. Adventurous users are both confident and willing to think out of the box. As you noted in comments, it's also about finding creative personalised solutions to practical challenges:

> I like coffee drinks in the cortado / flat white family, but I don't have room on my kitchen counter for an espresso machine and a high-end grinder. Nor am I about to wait fifteen minutes for the espresso machine to come up to heat, etc. My solution: a double shot of Bustelo, made in the Aeropress, with hot (not textured) milk. Tasty, affordable, and space-efficient. – username_0 [comment] [Sep 22 at 20:31](https://coffee.stackexchange.com/questions/3791/is-there-a-group-identity-for-coffee-drinkers-who-care-but-compromise/3930#comment3609_3795)

The [**adventurous coffee enthusiast**](https://www.google.co.in/search?q=%22adventurous+coffee+enthusiast%22&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&oq=%22adventurous+coffee+enthusiast%22&gs_l=mobile-heirloom-serp.3...) *(as Google shows, the term is already in general use; if it is not yet a group identity, it should be!)* is a bold innovator, not afraid to mix and match equipment and techniques, and is not particular about getting the 'perfect' cup of coffee -- for them it is more a matter of solving an interesting challenge or doing something new with the tools and materials available, in the field they love: as in, I have tried out so many unorthodox ways of making coffee (as also unconventional audio arrangements including the use of PA speakers in the home setting) for the pure thrill of tasting the resultant mix! Whereas a purist will not like to do so.

I have learned and understood a great deal about coffee by direct, sometimes unorthodox experimentation. I don't see it necessarily as compromising on time, money or effort, but rather an assertion of creative independence, the quest for that beautiful and unusual variation, or just the sheer love of everything coffee.

> **Comments:**
> **username_5**: "... the sheer love of everything coffee" :) indeed  
> **username_4**: So true @eddyce... My only problem is that I can drink only 1 strong coffee a day (equivalent to 2 regular coffees). Luckily my family members will give me 3 orders and drink my coffee.  
> **username_5**: I know... I am limiting my self to 3 / 4 espresso's and my next target is exploring the world of decaf ;)  
> **username_4**: We live in South India, right in the middle of coffee growing country and the best coffee is inexpensive at the source: that means experimentation with brew combinations is highly affordable; we also get gifted finely ground coffee powder by the makers, and I literally have more coffee powder at any time than I can finish brewing. Ironically the people in my home state prefer tea which is also a major product of this region. In fact tea is more popular than coffee all over India. I am very sensitive to caffeine and decaf absolutely didn't help me but I am sure you will find it helpful @eddyce.  
> **username_5**: what kind of coffee do you drink? I mean: espresso, filter, instant?  
> **username_4**: @eddyce the 3 types of coffee powder available here are finely ground Robusta, medium-ground coffee-chicory blend and coarse ground Arabica. I make the basic black coffee concentrate using moka pot/ french press/ South Indian filter vessel/ home espresso machine, using various combinations of powder to achieve a 'substance base' of pure coffee and 'flavor overlay' of coffee-chicory. I usually use this black concentrate to make our famous 'South Indian filter coffee' which is a mix of black coffee decoction, hot milk and sugar. I also like to add cold milk to the black base to make iced coffee.  
> **username_4**: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_filter_coffee  

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