<p>Any upgrade from a Skerton is worthwhile ;) The Skerton grinds erratically, being more a crusher than a grinder, and it's so. terrifically. slow. On the other hand I suspect a Fellow Ode is more than you need or want.</p>
<p>Knowing little about you, I have to make some guesses. It sounds like your tastes run toward what a coffee hobbyist might describe as — forgive me — uncomplicated coffee. The Ode is more for people who want to tinker with the parameters of their brews, searching for flavour nuances. It has flat burrs for one thing, which <em>may</em> require alignment: partially disassemble, install shims so the flat burrs are precisely parallel.</p>
<p>A Kingrinder would be a big improvement over a Skerton, and the K6 is a particularly nice choice from their lineup. I think you would be pleased with a K6 for a very long time. Timemore is another well-received brand. Personally I use a 1Zpresso hand grinder. Same idea, some improvements.</p>
<p>In electric grinders you'll see the Baratza Encore recommended widely for beginner enthusiasts. I have used and don't like the Encore. I might recommend a Turin SK40 (though not at full suggested retail price!) or a Lagom Mini for you in electric (though I have never used either). If it's the toil of grinding coffee in a Skerton that wears you down, any of these choices will be a refreshing upgrade.</p>
<p>While I'm at it, I might mention the Moka pot for brewing, in case you are unfamiliar. It makes stronger coffee than pour-over, though still weaker than espresso. Personally I prefer pour-over, in a somewhat complicated style.</p>

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Thank you - very helpful. As a follow up - what would you say is the difference between a K6 and the 1Zpresso?
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if it helps explain my tastes - i love espresso, and strong (less water) americanos, and i also learned to make my own turkish coffee (but i buy it ground )
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1Zpressos are a little prettier IMO. I believe the K6 adjustment dial reads 0 at some arbitrary position that can't be adjusted. That's irritating to me but no show stopper. It appears to have the same burr as a 1Zpresso K-series, so probably grinds the same. I would say the K6 is the better value, matching all the important specs of a high-end 1Zpresso.
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<p>I have been using the old Hario Skerton (not pro) ceramic hand grinder for pour over coffee.</p>
<p>I'm not sure of terminology so let me explain what I mean - I use a ceramic cone and filter papers I get from the supermarket, add the ground coffee, and pour recently boiled water over it.</p>
<p>Would getting a Fellow Ode 2 improve my coffee? What about a hand grinder like the Kingridner V6?</p>
<p>I like my coffee to some body, lots of aroma from the extracted oils, and don't like it to be too &quot;tea-like&quot; in consistency.</p>
<p>You may say that what I should do is get an espresso machine but it will take me a long time to save up for that - so the question is ... is an investment in a grinder worth it for my needs?</p>

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# recommendations for pour-over grinder improvement

(Asked by: username_0 on 2024-06-17)

I have been using the old Hario Skerton (not pro) ceramic hand grinder for pour over coffee.

I'm not sure of terminology so let me explain what I mean - I use a ceramic cone and filter papers I get from the supermarket, add the ground coffee, and pour recently boiled water over it.

Would getting a Fellow Ode 2 improve my coffee? What about a hand grinder like the Kingridner V6?

I like my coffee to some body, lots of aroma from the extracted oils, and don't like it to be too "tea-like" in consistency.

You may say that what I should do is get an espresso machine but it will take me a long time to save up for that - so the question is ... is an investment in a grinder worth it for my needs?

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### Answer by username_1 on 2024-06-17. Score: 1 | Accepted answer

Any upgrade from a Skerton is worthwhile ;) The Skerton grinds erratically, being more a crusher than a grinder, and it's so. terrifically. slow. On the other hand I suspect a Fellow Ode is more than you need or want.

Knowing little about you, I have to make some guesses. It sounds like your tastes run toward what a coffee hobbyist might describe as — forgive me — uncomplicated coffee. The Ode is more for people who want to tinker with the parameters of their brews, searching for flavour nuances. It has flat burrs for one thing, which *may* require alignment: partially disassemble, install shims so the flat burrs are precisely parallel.

A Kingrinder would be a big improvement over a Skerton, and the K6 is a particularly nice choice from their lineup. I think you would be pleased with a K6 for a very long time. Timemore is another well-received brand. Personally I use a 1Zpresso hand grinder. Same idea, some improvements.

In electric grinders you'll see the Baratza Encore recommended widely for beginner enthusiasts. I have used and don't like the Encore. I might recommend a Turin SK40 (though not at full suggested retail price!) or a Lagom Mini for you in electric (though I have never used either). If it's the toil of grinding coffee in a Skerton that wears you down, any of these choices will be a refreshing upgrade.

While I'm at it, I might mention the Moka pot for brewing, in case you are unfamiliar. It makes stronger coffee than pour-over, though still weaker than espresso. Personally I prefer pour-over, in a somewhat complicated style.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Thank you - very helpful. As a follow up - what would you say is the difference between a K6 and the 1Zpresso?  
> **username_0**: if it helps explain my tastes - i love espresso, and strong (less water) americanos, and i also learned to make my own turkish coffee (but i buy it ground )  
> **username_1**: 1Zpressos are a little prettier IMO. I believe the K6 adjustment dial reads 0 at some arbitrary position that can't be adjusted. That's irritating to me but no show stopper. It appears to have the same burr as a 1Zpresso K-series, so probably grinds the same. I would say the K6 is the better value, matching all the important specs of a high-end 1Zpresso.  

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