<p>The HR diagram is a plot of luminosity (or a proxy) versus temperature (or a proxy).</p>

<p><span class="math-container">$B-V$</span> is a proxy related to temperature, therefore to plot your point on a 2-d plot you obviously need the other axis information - the luminosity, or its proxy the absolute magnitude. This in turn needs an apparent magnitude and a distance to the star.</p>

<p>It is also possible that the star has suffered some extinction and reddening by the interstellar medium, which would need to be estimated and corrected for before comparing with other stars or stellar models.</p>

<p>Note however that 33 Psc is a binary star, so it isn't clear what you learn by plotting its combined colour and absolute magnitude on the HR diagram.</p>

<p>Edit: I note that the catalogue you show in your edited question doesn't just give <span class="math-container">$B-V$</span>, it gives the visual (i.e. <span class="math-container">$V$</span>) magnitude. This is one component of what you need for the y-axis. The other is a distance, so that you can convert your apparent <span class="math-container">$V$</span> magnitude into an absolute magnitude.</p>

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Right, I understand what the BV value is. The reason I asked is because I've imported several catalogs into a database as a programming example, and would eventually like to actually write a component that displays a star superimposed on a HR diagram. The problem is that these catalogs only give a single value (i.e. 1.04), making it difficult.

33 Psc was a random example, and apparently a poor one.
Jason
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As a note on nomenclature, I'll point out that it's "B-V", not "BV". That is, the magnitude in a blue filter minus the magnitude in the center of the visual range.
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<p>For that particular value, there are at least two branches the star could correspond to, it could for instance be a subgiant or on the main sequence (as you can see <a href="http://spiff.rit.edu/classes/phys230/lectures/hr/hr.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">here</a>), so you cannot unambiguously determine its absolute magnitude/luminosity just from its B-V colour. However, the Wikipedia article for 33 Psc gives some information about it : <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33_Piscium" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33_Piscium</a>
<br> Also, if you are interested in determining the temperature from the colour index, that can be approximated very well using the formula you can find <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_index" rel="nofollow noreferrer">here</a>.</p>

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Or it could be a giant, or it could be a binary star. Both of which it is !
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Apologies, I just eyeballed the first two I saw 1.04 fit in the image above. I edited my answer appropriately.
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<p>I have an example BV value from an astronomical catalog of 1.04 (33 Psc, HD Catalog 28).</p>

<p>Given only the number 1.04, can that be charted on the HR, or do I need the individual components of the value and/or temperature and luminosity?</p>

<p>Edit:</p>

<p>I should explain why I'm asking. I've written an application that displays data from one of several catalogs, and they only provide the BV value. I want to add a component to the application that would show an HR diagram with that star superimposed on it. The example of 33 Psc was semi-random, as it's the third entry in one of the catalogs (Yale Bright Star Catalog).</p>

<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/NwD8L.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/NwD8L.png" alt="Example Catalog Display"></a></p>

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http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=33+Psc&NbIdent=1&Radius=2&Radius.unit=arcmin&submit=submit+id
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Corresponding BV Value to a Hertzsprung–Russell
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# Corresponding BV Value to a Hertzsprung–Russell

(Asked by: username_0 on 2019-11-11)

I have an example BV value from an astronomical catalog of 1.04 (33 Psc, HD Catalog 28).

Given only the number 1.04, can that be charted on the HR, or do I need the individual components of the value and/or temperature and luminosity?

Edit:

I should explain why I'm asking. I've written an application that displays data from one of several catalogs, and they only provide the BV value. I want to add a component to the application that would show an HR diagram with that star superimposed on it. The example of 33 Psc was semi-random, as it's the third entry in one of the catalogs (Yale Bright Star Catalog).

[![Example Catalog Display](https://i.sstatic.net/NwD8L.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/NwD8L.png)

**Tags:** star, hr-diagram, color-index

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=33+Psc&NbIdent=1&Radius=2&Radius.unit=arcmin&submit=submit+id  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2019-11-11. Score: 1

The HR diagram is a plot of luminosity (or a proxy) versus temperature (or a proxy).

$B-V$ is a proxy related to temperature, therefore to plot your point on a 2-d plot you obviously need the other axis information - the luminosity, or its proxy the absolute magnitude. This in turn needs an apparent magnitude and a distance to the star.

It is also possible that the star has suffered some extinction and reddening by the interstellar medium, which would need to be estimated and corrected for before comparing with other stars or stellar models.

Note however that 33 Psc is a binary star, so it isn't clear what you learn by plotting its combined colour and absolute magnitude on the HR diagram.

Edit: I note that the catalogue you show in your edited question doesn't just give $B-V$, it gives the visual (i.e. $V$) magnitude. This is one component of what you need for the y-axis. The other is a distance, so that you can convert your apparent $V$ magnitude into an absolute magnitude.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Right, I understand what the BV value is. The reason I asked is because I've imported several catalogs into a database as a programming example, and would eventually like to actually write a component that displays a star superimposed on a HR diagram. The problem is that these catalogs only give a single value (i.e. 1.04), making it difficult.  33 Psc was a random example, and apparently a poor one.  
> **username_2**: As a note on nomenclature, I'll point out that it's "B-V", not "BV". That is, the magnitude in a blue filter minus the magnitude in the center of the visual range.  

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### Answer by username_3 on 2019-11-11. Score: 0

For that particular value, there are at least two branches the star could correspond to, it could for instance be a subgiant or on the main sequence (as you can see [here](http://spiff.rit.edu/classes/phys230/lectures/hr/hr.html)), so you cannot unambiguously determine its absolute magnitude/luminosity just from its B-V colour. However, the Wikipedia article for 33 Psc gives some information about it : <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33_Piscium>
  
 Also, if you are interested in determining the temperature from the colour index, that can be approximated very well using the formula you can find [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_index).

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Or it could be a giant, or it could be a binary star. Both of which it is !  
> **username_3**: Apologies, I just eyeballed the first two I saw 1.04 fit in the image above. I edited my answer appropriately.  

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