<p>Stars aren't really orbiting the <em>center</em> of a galaxy, as much as they're orbiting the gravitational potential of the galaxy. The galaxy doesn't need to have a black hole in the center for the stars to orbit, and even if it does (which in fact it does most of the time), the black hole does not dominate the gravitational potential, except in the most central part (see <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphere_of_influence_(black_hole)">sphere of influence of a black hole</a>).</p>

<p>All matter in the galaxy contributes to the gravitational potential, but since dark matter comprises 5/6 of the mass, this is the most important contributor. Only in the hypothetical case of a perfectly symmetrical distribution of masses, would the black hole and the center of rotation coincide. And since the paths of the stars are ellipses and not perfect circles, the center of the potential will not lie in the center of their orbits, but in one of the focal points. Furthermore, galaxies are dynamical and the potential continually changes, in turn changing the exact orbit of a star.</p>

<p>Galaxies form due to the collapse of a dark matter halo, and the gas that follows  along. Such a halo will in general have a non-zero angular momentum, which is partially conserved during the collapse (they do lose a significant amount, for instance through minor and major merging; see e.g. <a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0602005">D'Onghia et al. 2006</a>).</p>

<p>As in the case of a forming star, a forming planet, an ice skater, or you on an office chair, reducing the radius means increasing orbital speed. This is the origin of the rotation.</p>

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At 100,000 LY across, stars are not going to be orbiting the exact center of mass of the milky way. They'll be orbiting around some weird time average of where the center of mass *was*. Gravity is still thought to travel at speed of light, and galaxy is *big* relative to that.
Wayfaring Stranger
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@WayfaringStranger: Yes, just as we orbit the place where the Sun was 8 minutes ago. To a high degree of precision, however, that effect can usually be safely ignored, as the dynamical timescale of a galaxy ($\sim\sqrt{R^3/GM}$) is much larger than the light crossing time ($\sim R/c$).
pela
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2017-02-11T21:15:20.503Z
The stars in the galaxy NGC 1132 are rotating in all directions how is this possible? Is this also due to the dark matter?
Marijn 
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2017-02-11T21:30:58.940Z
@Marijn: In general, galaxies can be dynamically either rotation-dominated (like spiral galaxies), or dispersion-dominated (like elliptical galaxies). The latter are probably formed through a major merger of two galaxies, which disturb the system so much as to "destroy" the orbits and let the stars have random orbits. NGC 1131 is an elliptical galaxy. (major mergers don't necessarily result in ellipticals; it depends on a number of factors, including the relative direction of their individual angular momenta).
pela
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2017-02-16T22:08:48.307Z
@Marijn, if you're not satisfied with the answer, let me know what could make it better.
pela
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pela
<p>The cause of the rotation is that the hydrogen cloud that the galaxy condensed out of had some angular momentum which was conserved as the cloud collapsed into a galaxy. </p>

<p>The stars in a galaxy have to be in orbit around something. (Even if it's just the center of mass of the galaxy.) If they were at rest with respect to the center of mass, they'd fall into it!</p>

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zeta-band
<p>In our Milkyway all the stars are orbitting around the black hole in the center. But what is the cause it this rotation and are there galaxies where the stars aren't orbitting a center?</p>

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Are the stars in all galaxies orbitting around a middle?
Marijn 
# Are the stars in all galaxies orbitting around a middle?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-02-09)

In our Milkyway all the stars are orbitting around the black hole in the center. But what is the cause it this rotation and are there galaxies where the stars aren't orbitting a center?

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2017-02-09. Score: 4

Stars aren't really orbiting the *center* of a galaxy, as much as they're orbiting the gravitational potential of the galaxy. The galaxy doesn't need to have a black hole in the center for the stars to orbit, and even if it does (which in fact it does most of the time), the black hole does not dominate the gravitational potential, except in the most central part (see [sphere of influence of a black hole](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphere_of_influence_(black_hole))).

All matter in the galaxy contributes to the gravitational potential, but since dark matter comprises 5/6 of the mass, this is the most important contributor. Only in the hypothetical case of a perfectly symmetrical distribution of masses, would the black hole and the center of rotation coincide. And since the paths of the stars are ellipses and not perfect circles, the center of the potential will not lie in the center of their orbits, but in one of the focal points. Furthermore, galaxies are dynamical and the potential continually changes, in turn changing the exact orbit of a star.

Galaxies form due to the collapse of a dark matter halo, and the gas that follows along. Such a halo will in general have a non-zero angular momentum, which is partially conserved during the collapse (they do lose a significant amount, for instance through minor and major merging; see e.g. [D'Onghia et al. 2006](https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0602005)).

As in the case of a forming star, a forming planet, an ice skater, or you on an office chair, reducing the radius means increasing orbital speed. This is the origin of the rotation.

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: At 100,000 LY across, stars are not going to be orbiting the exact center of mass of the milky way. They'll be orbiting around some weird time average of where the center of mass *was*. Gravity is still thought to travel at speed of light, and galaxy is *big* relative to that.  
> **username_1**: @WayfaringStranger: Yes, just as we orbit the place where the Sun was 8 minutes ago. To a high degree of precision, however, that effect can usually be safely ignored, as the dynamical timescale of a galaxy ($\sim\sqrt{R^3/GM}$) is much larger than the light crossing time ($\sim R/c$).  
> **username_0**: The stars in the galaxy NGC 1132 are rotating in all directions how is this possible? Is this also due to the dark matter?  
> **username_1**: @Marijn: In general, galaxies can be dynamically either rotation-dominated (like spiral galaxies), or dispersion-dominated (like elliptical galaxies). The latter are probably formed through a major merger of two galaxies, which disturb the system so much as to "destroy" the orbits and let the stars have random orbits. NGC 1131 is an elliptical galaxy. (major mergers don't necessarily result in ellipticals; it depends on a number of factors, including the relative direction of their individual angular momenta).  
> **username_1**: @Marijn, if you're not satisfied with the answer, let me know what could make it better.  

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### Answer by username_3 on 2017-02-09. Score: 0

The cause of the rotation is that the hydrogen cloud that the galaxy condensed out of had some angular momentum which was conserved as the cloud collapsed into a galaxy.

The stars in a galaxy have to be in orbit around something. (Even if it's just the center of mass of the galaxy.) If they were at rest with respect to the center of mass, they'd fall into it!


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