<p>This is a duplicated question but I think it fits better into astronomy than into physics. I'll try to answer all aspects of this question including the consequences.</p>
<p>First, is it possible? As already pointed out it is, like Pluto and Charon. But is it possible for bigger planets, with the size of Earth? Well we didn't find this planet system yet, but the universe is big. There is no physical law that would forbid this system, it might be unlikely and very rare but it would be possible.</p>
<p>Let's assume somewhere is a planet system with two Earth-sized twins. What would be the dynamics of this systems on the consequences for possible living beings on one of this planets?</p>
<p>One consequence is that the gravity center of this system would be between both planets, if they exactly are the same size (same mass) the gravity center would be in the exact middle of both. That means both planets are rotating around this point (while they are rotating around a sun). This would lead to some effects like in a centrifuge and lead to some weird appearances. The gravity point of our Earth – Moon system is already shifted from the geometrical center point of our earth. And this leads into tides. The tides on our double Earth system would be vast (assuming at least one of this planets is just like our earth and has water on it). Complete areas would be periodically covered with water. Most living beings would probably be amphibians. This of course means the planet would rotate. In the beginning, the planets would rotate but they would slow each other down until they show the same side to each other. Just like our Earth did to the Moon. The Moon continually slows down the rotation of our Earth, but with his minor mass this takes a while. This processes would be much quicker on the double earth system. But even this would take some time. So it would be a matter of time when you look at this system. If it's a young system they would still rotate. If it's an older system they would show the same side each other.</p>
<p>The last point would fix the tides problem, because the water level would be stationary. But this would lead into new problems. The day length would be as long as they need to rotated around their common gravity center. I'll be honest. I am not sure how long this would be. For a stable double Earth system the distance between both planets would be further then the Earth-Moon distance. Let's just assume a day in that system would take 2 Earth months for simplification. This would mean on daylight it would be very hot and at night it would be very cold. One side of the planet would be heat up for hundreds of hours (our earth hours) and the other half would cool down for the same time. Temperatures over a period would jump up and down in big steps. There is no living being known on earth that can handle both extreme hot and extreme cold in such a short period of time. Also this would lead into very heavy and constant storms in the area where the sun sets or rises, making living there even harder.</p>
<p>Also your weight (stepping on the bath scale) would vary depend on where on the planet you are. If you on the side facing the other planet you would be heavier than on the other side of the planet.
Another point that would be possible, but I will point out I am not completely sure about this. The planets would struggle keeping their atmosphere for a long period of time because of the rotation. The side facing away from each other would have thicker atmosphere than on the sides (see my sketch).</p>
<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/DDCJ5.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/DDCJ5.jpg" alt="Sketch" /></a><br />
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<p>At this point the gravitational pull of the planet is also lower then everywhere else. This could help the molecules to escape the Earth, in a long period of time.</p>

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*If you on the side facing the other planet you would be heavier than on the other side of the planet.* Are you sure about that? That's not how the tidal force works.
PM 2Ring
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2014-10-21T21:42:24.750Z
The OP didn't ask about two Earths and all the implications of that assumption which much of your answer involves.  The short answer to the primary question is yes, two planets can be in this arrangement. Per your tangential topic, if life existed  on either or both of the planets, evolution would have given it the ability to survive and flourish in whatever environment it found itself, hot/cold, high/low gravity, etc.
Tracy Cramer
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2014-10-21T21:48:46.123Z
I know it's not your first post, but welcome to Astronomy! I actually think you addressed this pretty well.
HDE 226868
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2014-10-22T01:25:43.200Z
"Constellation" isn't the right word for this. A constellation is an apparent grouping of stars in the sky, or a region of the sky. I think replacing "constellation" by "system" would make your answer clearer. (For example, we already refer to the Earth-Moon system or the Jupiter system; the latter includes Jupiter and its moons.)
Keith Thompson
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2014-10-22T10:34:00.987Z
@ Tracy Cramer: The question (at least in the blue title) asks about the dynamics of a double-planet system. So talking about tides, gravity changes, temperature and possible escaping atmosphere seems legit to me as these are results of the dynamics. The mentioned consequences for living on this planets are more additional and used for a better visual idea of the dynamics. @Keith Thompson thanks i edit my answer.
solid
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2014-10-22T17:45:17.550Z
@solid, I'm not suggesting this answer is wrong - just that it includes some assumptions that I don't believe should be made or if they are then to point them out.  Saying "tides" assumes some proportion of the surface is covered by liquid.  Saying an "escaping atmosphere" assumes having an atmosphere.  The temperature dynamics in this answer assumes the local star drives surface temperatures as opposed to internal heat.  I didn't downvote because the answer does have some good information.  I just feel there are too many assumptions about the planets' compositions.
Tracy Cramer
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2014-10-22T19:39:24.037Z
Of course a liquid or an atmosphere are necessary for these points. The question didn't mention wherever there is water(or atmosphere) on this planets or not. But it mentioned “researching a sci-fi story”. I don't know many sic-fi stories about just rocks so I stick  with it. I find it needless to mention everytime that water/atmosphere.. are necessary for... becouse it's obvious. Also feel free to down vote this answer if you think it's overloaded and you would prefer a binary yes – no answer.I think it's important to see the entire picture and that this is still in the scope of the question.
solid
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2014-10-23T20:57:15.157Z
Thanks for the great answer. (I love the diagram, by the way!) The tidal-locking would clearly be problematic for  native life forms. The part of the answer I would question is the final part about the atmosphere. Is the suggestion that the atmosphere would be lost to centrifugal force, due to orbiting the common center of gravity? (or am I misunderstanding?)
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solid
<p>Researching a sci-fi story involving a "twin-planet" system. Is such an arrangement (however unlikely) physically possible? And if so, must they be tidally locked with each other, similar to the moon, month-long days, etc?  </p>

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2019-02-18T08:57:26.427Z
Rocheworld in Robert L Forward's novel of the same name (also known as "The Flight of the Dragonfly" is a carefully worked out example of this. The two worlds are so close that they share an atmophere.
Steve Linton
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2014-10-18T23:02:40.230Z
Didn't you already ask this on Physics?
HDE 226868
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2014-10-18T23:21:17.110Z
The question on Physics can be found [here](http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/141971/what-would-be-the-dynamics-of-a-double-planet-system-similar-to-earth-moon-b).
HDE 226868
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2014-10-18T23:22:20.683Z
I did. Just discovered this site and learning as I go; found the astronomy section after the fact. My apologies for the duplicate post!
Syzygy333
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2014-10-18T23:23:01.450Z
No problem; there are a *lot* of questions that are on-topic on both sites.
HDE 226868
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2014-10-19T05:55:55.717Z
The Pluto-Charon system is essentially of this form, scaled down. The bigger the objects the further from the sun they need to be to remain stable for long time periods. Hill spheres shrink as you get closer to the Sun. And you probably want them far enough from each other that tidal interactions aren't severe. There was a question about putting the earth-moon system around a Jupiter planet while remaining stable in the habitable zone. Answer was yes, and would include relevant calculations.
zibadawa timmy
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2014-10-20T11:17:20.080Z
^@zibadawatimmy: Why don't you post that as an answer?
Takku
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2014-10-20T15:08:07.877Z
@Takku Because I've not bothered to find that post or work out the calculations. The earth-sun-venus system intuitively says they can certainly both remain in the habitable zone, but if they are too far out in the hill sphere then any other planets in the solar system could quickly destabilize things.
zibadawa timmy
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2014-10-21T02:01:27.413Z
I couldn't find the Earth-Moon/Jupiter question, but learned that tidal-locking is likely, and the Pluto-Charon suggestions are very helpful: with Pluto's tide-locked day of 6.387 Earth days and the Moon's 27-day-long day, I wonder if the twin Venus-sized (say) planets could be expected to have days of similar or even longer duration?
Syzygy333
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2014-10-22T19:43:31.713Z
There is also a world building SE site where you might receive some interesting answers.
Tracy Cramer
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2014-10-27T12:00:09.997Z
@Syzygy333 http://astronomy.stackexchange.com/q/5990/2188 Here's the question I was referring to.
zibadawa timmy
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What would be the dynamics of a double-planet system, similar to Earth / Moon, but with both bodies nearly Earth-sized?
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# What would be the dynamics of a double-planet system, similar to Earth / Moon, but with both bodies nearly Earth-sized?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2014-10-18)

Researching a sci-fi story involving a "twin-planet" system. Is such an arrangement (however unlikely) physically possible? And if so, must they be tidally locked with each other, similar to the moon, month-long days, etc?

**Tags:** orbit, planet, earth-like-planet

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: Didn't you already ask this on Physics?  
> **username_2**: The question on Physics can be found [here](http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/141971/what-would-be-the-dynamics-of-a-double-planet-system-similar-to-earth-moon-b).  
> **username_0**: I did. Just discovered this site and learning as I go; found the astronomy section after the fact. My apologies for the duplicate post!  
> **username_2**: No problem; there are a *lot* of questions that are on-topic on both sites.  
> **username_3**: The Pluto-Charon system is essentially of this form, scaled down. The bigger the objects the further from the sun they need to be to remain stable for long time periods. Hill spheres shrink as you get closer to the Sun. And you probably want them far enough from each other that tidal interactions aren't severe. There was a question about putting the earth-moon system around a Jupiter planet while remaining stable in the habitable zone. Answer was yes, and would include relevant calculations.  
> **username_4**: ^@zibadawatimmy: Why don't you post that as an answer?  
> **username_3**: @username_4 Because I've not bothered to find that post or work out the calculations. The earth-sun-venus system intuitively says they can certainly both remain in the habitable zone, but if they are too far out in the hill sphere then any other planets in the solar system could quickly destabilize things.  
> **username_0**: I couldn't find the Earth-Moon/Jupiter question, but learned that tidal-locking is likely, and the Pluto-Charon suggestions are very helpful: with Pluto's tide-locked day of 6.387 Earth days and the Moon's 27-day-long day, I wonder if the twin Venus-sized (say) planets could be expected to have days of similar or even longer duration?  
> **username_5**: There is also a world building SE site where you might receive some interesting answers.  
> **username_3**: @username_0 http://astronomy.stackexchange.com/q/5990/2188 Here's the question I was referring to.  
> **username_1**: Rocheworld in Robert L Forward's novel of the same name (also known as "The Flight of the Dragonfly" is a carefully worked out example of this. The two worlds are so close that they share an atmophere.  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_6 on 2014-10-21. Score: 3 | Accepted answer

This is a duplicated question but I think it fits better into astronomy than into physics. I'll try to answer all aspects of this question including the consequences.

First, is it possible? As already pointed out it is, like Pluto and Charon. But is it possible for bigger planets, with the size of Earth? Well we didn't find this planet system yet, but the universe is big. There is no physical law that would forbid this system, it might be unlikely and very rare but it would be possible.

Let's assume somewhere is a planet system with two Earth-sized twins. What would be the dynamics of this systems on the consequences for possible living beings on one of this planets?

One consequence is that the gravity center of this system would be between both planets, if they exactly are the same size (same mass) the gravity center would be in the exact middle of both. That means both planets are rotating around this point (while they are rotating around a sun). This would lead to some effects like in a centrifuge and lead to some weird appearances. The gravity point of our Earth – Moon system is already shifted from the geometrical center point of our earth. And this leads into tides. The tides on our double Earth system would be vast (assuming at least one of this planets is just like our earth and has water on it). Complete areas would be periodically covered with water. Most living beings would probably be amphibians. This of course means the planet would rotate. In the beginning, the planets would rotate but they would slow each other down until they show the same side to each other. Just like our Earth did to the Moon. The Moon continually slows down the rotation of our Earth, but with his minor mass this takes a while. This processes would be much quicker on the double earth system. But even this would take some time. So it would be a matter of time when you look at this system. If it's a young system they would still rotate. If it's an older system they would show the same side each other.

The last point would fix the tides problem, because the water level would be stationary. But this would lead into new problems. The day length would be as long as they need to rotated around their common gravity center. I'll be honest. I am not sure how long this would be. For a stable double Earth system the distance between both planets would be further then the Earth-Moon distance. Let's just assume a day in that system would take 2 Earth months for simplification. This would mean on daylight it would be very hot and at night it would be very cold. One side of the planet would be heat up for hundreds of hours (our earth hours) and the other half would cool down for the same time. Temperatures over a period would jump up and down in big steps. There is no living being known on earth that can handle both extreme hot and extreme cold in such a short period of time. Also this would lead into very heavy and constant storms in the area where the sun sets or rises, making living there even harder.

Also your weight (stepping on the bath scale) would vary depend on where on the planet you are. If you on the side facing the other planet you would be heavier than on the other side of the planet.
Another point that would be possible, but I will point out I am not completely sure about this. The planets would struggle keeping their atmosphere for a long period of time because of the rotation. The side facing away from each other would have thicker atmosphere than on the sides (see my sketch).

[![Sketch](https://i.sstatic.net/DDCJ5.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/DDCJ5.jpg)  
(source: [directupload.net](http://s14.directupload.net/images/141021/5edwnqih.jpg))

At this point the gravitational pull of the planet is also lower then everywhere else. This could help the molecules to escape the Earth, in a long period of time.

> **Comments:**
> **username_5**: The OP didn't ask about two Earths and all the implications of that assumption which much of your answer involves.  The short answer to the primary question is yes, two planets can be in this arrangement. Per your tangential topic, if life existed  on either or both of the planets, evolution would have given it the ability to survive and flourish in whatever environment it found itself, hot/cold, high/low gravity, etc.  
> **username_2**: I know it's not your first post, but welcome to Astronomy! I actually think you addressed this pretty well.  
> **username_8**: "Constellation" isn't the right word for this. A constellation is an apparent grouping of stars in the sky, or a region of the sky. I think replacing "constellation" by "system" would make your answer clearer. (For example, we already refer to the Earth-Moon system or the Jupiter system; the latter includes Jupiter and its moons.)  
> **username_6**: @ username_5: The question (at least in the blue title) asks about the dynamics of a double-planet system. So talking about tides, gravity changes, temperature and possible escaping atmosphere seems legit to me as these are results of the dynamics. The mentioned consequences for living on this planets are more additional and used for a better visual idea of the dynamics. @username_8 thanks i edit my answer.  
> **username_5**: @username_6, I'm not suggesting this answer is wrong - just that it includes some assumptions that I don't believe should be made or if they are then to point them out.  Saying "tides" assumes some proportion of the surface is covered by liquid.  Saying an "escaping atmosphere" assumes having an atmosphere.  The temperature dynamics in this answer assumes the local star drives surface temperatures as opposed to internal heat.  I didn't downvote because the answer does have some good information.  I just feel there are too many assumptions about the planets' compositions.  
> **username_6**: Of course a liquid or an atmosphere are necessary for these points. The question didn't mention wherever there is water(or atmosphere) on this planets or not. But it mentioned “researching a sci-fi story”. I don't know many sic-fi stories about just rocks so I stick  with it. I find it needless to mention everytime that water/atmosphere.. are necessary for... becouse it's obvious. Also feel free to down vote this answer if you think it's overloaded and you would prefer a binary yes – no answer.I think it's important to see the entire picture and that this is still in the scope of the question.  
> **username_0**: Thanks for the great answer. (I love the diagram, by the way!) The tidal-locking would clearly be problematic for  native life forms. The part of the answer I would question is the final part about the atmosphere. Is the suggestion that the atmosphere would be lost to centrifugal force, due to orbiting the common center of gravity? (or am I misunderstanding?)  
> **username_7**: *If you on the side facing the other planet you would be heavier than on the other side of the planet.* Are you sure about that? That's not how the tidal force works.  

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