<p>This is an incomplete answer—a placeholder for a more complete answer that I'm adding here at the request of the OP (who, I will say, has been very patient with me!).</p>
<p>Although the precise reasons aren't well understood, I don't think people find the observed brightening of Neptune to be especially anomalous. We have accurate photometry for Neptune for only about 60 years or so, I think, so it's quite plausible that the variation is seasonal (Neptune's orbit is 165 years). Keep in mind also that the brightening is fairly subtle by ordinary standards, maybe a couple of tenths of a magnitude (about 15 percent brighter than before 1980).</p>
<p>One source is Schmude et al. &quot;<a href="https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1604/1604.00518.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">The Secular and Rotational Brightness Variations of Neptune</a>&quot;; its first paragraph states that the brightness has increased 10 percent in &quot;the past several decades.&quot;</p>

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Brian Tung
<p><strong>TL;DR</strong>: There was apparent 11% increase of Neptune brightness during 1980 and 2000. This could be due to multiple reasons. Recent observation suggested the reason to be change in the amount and brightness of the banded cloud mostly in the planet's southern hemisphere due to seasonal variations and thus affect overall brightness of the planet.</p>
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<p>Neptune's visual magnitude stayed relatively constant before 1980 and after 2000, but during this period, there was an unexpected rise in the brightness, about 11%.  Astronomers have proposed various ideas to explain this peculiar variation but none are convincing. But the more promising explanation would likely to be seasonal change due to tilt and cloud formation variation.</p>
<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/HoszX.png" rel="noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/HoszX.png" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>
<p>A team from Wisconsin made three sets of observations of the full rotation of the planet in 1996, 1998, and 2002. The images showed progressively brighter bands of clouds encircling the planet's southern hemisphere. The findings were consistent with observations made by G.W. Lockwood at the Lowell Observatory, which show that Neptune has been gradually getting brighter since 1980. They believe that cloud bands are getting brighter because the Sun is warming the atmosphere in the south apparently changing the brighness of Neptune.</p>
<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/ZwM1D.jpg" rel="noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ZwM1D.jpg" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>
<p>Neptune's near-infrared brightness is much more sensitive to high altitude clouds than its visible brightness. The recent trend of increasing cloud activity on Neptune has been qualitatively confirmed at near-infrared wavelengths with Keck Telescope observations from July 2000 to June 2001 by H. Hammel and co-workers which could provide an explanation to this brightness change.</p>
<p>Tilt could also be a reason. Hubble images reveal a real increase in Neptune's cloud cover consistent with seasonal change is the apparent absence of change in the planet's low latitudes near its equator. This do has a reason. Since Neptune is inclined at a 29-degree angle, the amount of solar energy received determines the season and this seasonal variation might affect the brightness. When the Sun deposits heat energy into the atmosphere, it forces a response like heating the atmosphere that lead to constant moving and condensing of cloud cover.</p>
<p>Another reason could be internal heat source of Neptune which may contribute to the planet's apparent seasonal variations and ultimately affect the planetary brightness.</p>
<p><a href="https://theskylive.com/how-bright-is-neptune" rel="noreferrer">Current visual magnitude of Neptune is 7.88 but it could reach 8.0 in the near future.</a></p>
<p>For more information, refer to this paper, &quot;<a href="https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1604/1604.00518.pdf" rel="noreferrer">The Secular and Rotational Brightness Variations of Neptune</a>&quot;</p>
<p>Other references:</p>
<ol>
<li><a href="https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030516082529.htm" rel="noreferrer">https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030516082529.htm</a></li>
<li><a href="https://skyandtelescope.org/observing/measuring-planet-magnitudes/" rel="noreferrer">https://skyandtelescope.org/observing/measuring-planet-magnitudes/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ssec.wisc.edu/media/Neptune2003.htm" rel="noreferrer">https://www.ssec.wisc.edu/media/Neptune2003.htm</a></li>
</ol>

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Wow what a thorough answer, thanks!
uhoh
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Nilay Ghosh
<p><a href="https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/a/37170/7982">This answer</a> to <em>Compute Planet's Apparent Visual Magnitude</em> reports the new work on planetary magnitudes, and contains an intriguing blurb about Neptune:</p>
<blockquote>
<ul>
<li>Neptune keeps getting brighter. No one knows why.</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p><strong>So I'd like to ask:</strong> How fast is Neptune getting brighter? When was was this first noticed and reported?</p>

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Although the precise reasons aren't well understood, I don't think people find it especially anomalous.  We have accurate photometry for Neptune for only about 60 years or so, I think, so it's quite plausible that the variation is seasonal (Neptune's orbit is 165 years).  Keep in mind also that the brightening is fairly subtle by ordinary standards, maybe a couple of tenths of a magnitude (about 15 percent brighter than before 1980).
Brian Tung
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@BrianTung if you can locate a source for that then I think you've got an answer, thanks!
uhoh
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The [Wikipedia plot summary](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neptune) for Neptune has the magnitude change.  Schmude et al. "[The Secular and Rotational Brightness Variations of Neptune](https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1604/1604.00518.pdf)" has more details, but at any rate, its first paragraph states that the brightness has increased 10 percent in "the past several decades."
Brian Tung
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@BrianTung okay so the answer to the "how fast?" part is "1% per each several years" :-)
uhoh
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I don't know how steady the secular changes are; I haven't read the paper.  (Note that "secular" is probably relative to how long we've been observing Neptune; they might still be periodic wrt Neptune's orbit.)
Brian Tung
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This article says "In 2002 images, Neptune is clearly brighter than it was in 1996 and 1998,” Sromovsky says, “and is dramatically brighter at near infrared wavelengths. The greatly increased cloud activity in 2002 continues a trend first noticed in 1998.”"  That's impressive, though it doesn't give any numbers.  https://scienceblog.com/1643/brighter-neptune-suggests-a-planetary-change-of-seasons/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CNeptune%E2%80%99s%20cloud%20bands%20have%20been%20getting%20wider%20and,like%20the%20seasonal%20changes%20we%20see%20on%20Earth.%E2%80%9D  I'm just going to say it. Neptune's wierd.
userLTK
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@userLTK okay so roughly 0.25 dramatic increases per year ;-)
uhoh
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@BrianTung Please write an Answer so you can get credit and we can see something other than "0 answers."
Mike G
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Thanks @MikeG.  I will get to it, I promise; I'm just a little swamped with work at the moment.  Please remind me if you don't hear from me by the weekend. :-)
Brian Tung
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@BrianTung feel free to post a s short answer and then you can expand it later when you get a chance
uhoh
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Could Voyager have dropped a seed canister on the way past?
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How fast is Neptune getting brighter? When was was this first noticed and reported?
uhoh
# How fast is Neptune getting brighter? When was was this first noticed and reported?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2020-07-30)

[This answer](https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/a/37170/7982) to *Compute Planet's Apparent Visual Magnitude* reports the new work on planetary magnitudes, and contains an intriguing blurb about Neptune:

> * Neptune keeps getting brighter. No one knows why.

**So I'd like to ask:** How fast is Neptune getting brighter? When was was this first noticed and reported?

**Tags:** observational-astronomy, photometry, neptune, planetary-science

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Although the precise reasons aren't well understood, I don't think people find it especially anomalous.  We have accurate photometry for Neptune for only about 60 years or so, I think, so it's quite plausible that the variation is seasonal (Neptune's orbit is 165 years).  Keep in mind also that the brightening is fairly subtle by ordinary standards, maybe a couple of tenths of a magnitude (about 15 percent brighter than before 1980).  
> **username_0**: @BrianTung if you can locate a source for that then I think you've got an answer, thanks!  
> **username_1**: The [Wikipedia plot summary](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neptune) for Neptune has the magnitude change.  Schmude et al. "[The Secular and Rotational Brightness Variations of Neptune](https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1604/1604.00518.pdf)" has more details, but at any rate, its first paragraph states that the brightness has increased 10 percent in "the past several decades."  
> **username_0**: @BrianTung okay so the answer to the "how fast?" part is "1% per each several years" :-)  
> **username_1**: I don't know how steady the secular changes are; I haven't read the paper.  (Note that "secular" is probably relative to how long we've been observing Neptune; they might still be periodic wrt Neptune's orbit.)  
> **username_2**: This article says "In 2002 images, Neptune is clearly brighter than it was in 1996 and 1998,” Sromovsky says, “and is dramatically brighter at near infrared wavelengths. The greatly increased cloud activity in 2002 continues a trend first noticed in 1998.”"  That's impressive, though it doesn't give any numbers.  https://scienceblog.com/1643/brighter-neptune-suggests-a-planetary-change-of-seasons/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CNeptune%E2%80%99s%20cloud%20bands%20have%20been%20getting%20wider%20and,like%20the%20seasonal%20changes%20we%20see%20on%20Earth.%E2%80%9D  I'm just going to say it. Neptune's wierd.  
> **username_0**: @username_2 okay so roughly 0.25 dramatic increases per year ;-)  
> **username_3**: @BrianTung Please write an Answer so you can get credit and we can see something other than "0 answers."  
> **username_1**: Thanks @MikeG.  I will get to it, I promise; I'm just a little swamped with work at the moment.  Please remind me if you don't hear from me by the weekend. :-)  
> **username_0**: @BrianTung feel free to post a s short answer and then you can expand it later when you get a chance  
> **username_4**: Could Voyager have dropped a seed canister on the way past?  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_5 on 2020-12-01. Score: 12 | Accepted answer

**TL;DR**: There was apparent 11% increase of Neptune brightness during 1980 and 2000. This could be due to multiple reasons. Recent observation suggested the reason to be change in the amount and brightness of the banded cloud mostly in the planet's southern hemisphere due to seasonal variations and thus affect overall brightness of the planet.

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Neptune's visual magnitude stayed relatively constant before 1980 and after 2000, but during this period, there was an unexpected rise in the brightness, about 11%. Astronomers have proposed various ideas to explain this peculiar variation but none are convincing. But the more promising explanation would likely to be seasonal change due to tilt and cloud formation variation.

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/HoszX.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/HoszX.png)

A team from Wisconsin made three sets of observations of the full rotation of the planet in 1996, 1998, and 2002. The images showed progressively brighter bands of clouds encircling the planet's southern hemisphere. The findings were consistent with observations made by G.W. Lockwood at the Lowell Observatory, which show that Neptune has been gradually getting brighter since 1980. They believe that cloud bands are getting brighter because the Sun is warming the atmosphere in the south apparently changing the brighness of Neptune.

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/ZwM1D.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/ZwM1D.jpg)

Neptune's near-infrared brightness is much more sensitive to high altitude clouds than its visible brightness. The recent trend of increasing cloud activity on Neptune has been qualitatively confirmed at near-infrared wavelengths with Keck Telescope observations from July 2000 to June 2001 by H. Hammel and co-workers which could provide an explanation to this brightness change.

Tilt could also be a reason. Hubble images reveal a real increase in Neptune's cloud cover consistent with seasonal change is the apparent absence of change in the planet's low latitudes near its equator. This do has a reason. Since Neptune is inclined at a 29-degree angle, the amount of solar energy received determines the season and this seasonal variation might affect the brightness. When the Sun deposits heat energy into the atmosphere, it forces a response like heating the atmosphere that lead to constant moving and condensing of cloud cover.

Another reason could be internal heat source of Neptune which may contribute to the planet's apparent seasonal variations and ultimately affect the planetary brightness.

[Current visual magnitude of Neptune is 7.88 but it could reach 8.0 in the near future.](https://theskylive.com/how-bright-is-neptune)

For more information, refer to this paper, "[The Secular and Rotational Brightness Variations of Neptune](https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1604/1604.00518.pdf)"

Other references:

1. <https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030516082529.htm>
2. <https://skyandtelescope.org/observing/measuring-planet-magnitudes/>
3. <https://www.ssec.wisc.edu/media/Neptune2003.htm>

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Wow what a thorough answer, thanks!  

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### Answer by username_1 on 2020-08-03. Score: 4

This is an incomplete answer—a placeholder for a more complete answer that I'm adding here at the request of the OP (who, I will say, has been very patient with me!).

Although the precise reasons aren't well understood, I don't think people find the observed brightening of Neptune to be especially anomalous. We have accurate photometry for Neptune for only about 60 years or so, I think, so it's quite plausible that the variation is seasonal (Neptune's orbit is 165 years). Keep in mind also that the brightening is fairly subtle by ordinary standards, maybe a couple of tenths of a magnitude (about 15 percent brighter than before 1980).

One source is Schmude et al. "[The Secular and Rotational Brightness Variations of Neptune](https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1604/1604.00518.pdf)"; its first paragraph states that the brightness has increased 10 percent in "the past several decades."


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