<p>If I understand the question the answer is, no, you can't estimate the final size of the Universe by calculating the schwarzschild radius of the universe.</p>

<p>The mass of the Universe is not known, and may be infinite.</p>

<p>It is not know if the observable universe will ever stop expanding, however the evidence suggests that it won't, and so won't have an "ultimate" size.</p>

<p>The mass of the observable universe is of the order $10^{53}kg$, mostly comprised of dark energy and dark matter.</p>

<p>A black hole with that mass would have a radius of $2MG/c^2 = 10^{26}m$, which as has been observed is on the same order of magnitude as the (comoving) radius of the observable universe. Whether this has any cosmological implications is not clear. It doesn't imply that the Universe is a black hole. It doesn't say anything about the Universe at all, as this calculation was for the observable universe. It doesn't say anything about the "ultimate size" of the universe or the observable universe (which is expected to continue expanding without limit) </p>

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The "mass of the observable universe" is much greater than $10^{53}$ kg - you have not included dark matter/energy.
ProfRob
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<p>If one can estimate the mass of our universe, might one also calculate its ultimate size, (after it fully expands), based on the Schwarzschild formula for the radius of a black hole? Please note that this simple formula 
$$R=\frac{2GM}{c^2}$$ 
informs us that larger black holes are less dense. So, if it turns out that our universe is in fact a gigantic black hole, then one would expect it to be extremely low-density!</p>

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See if any of these answers your question: http://astronomy.stackexchange.com/q/12471/6, http://astronomy.stackexchange.com/q/1001/6, http://astronomy.stackexchange.com/q/13999/6, http://astronomy.stackexchange.com/q/6286/6, http://astronomy.stackexchange.com/q/3635/6
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If so, let me know so I can close this as a duplicate. If not, please edit to clarify what is different about your question.
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Can one calculate the size (i.e. the radius) of our universe?
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# Can one calculate the size (i.e. the radius) of our universe?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2016-07-13)

If one can estimate the mass of our universe, might one also calculate its ultimate size, (after it fully expands), based on the Schwarzschild formula for the radius of a black hole? Please note that this simple formula
$$R=\frac{2GM}{c^2}$$
informs us that larger black holes are less dense. So, if it turns out that our universe is in fact a gigantic black hole, then one would expect it to be extremely low-density!

**Tags:** black-hole, universe, supermassive-black-hole, observable-universe

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: See if any of these answers your question: http://astronomy.stackexchange.com/q/12471/6, http://astronomy.stackexchange.com/q/1001/6, http://astronomy.stackexchange.com/q/13999/6, http://astronomy.stackexchange.com/q/6286/6, http://astronomy.stackexchange.com/q/3635/6  
> **username_1**: If so, let me know so I can close this as a duplicate. If not, please edit to clarify what is different about your question.  
> **username_1**: Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been [moved to chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/42486/discussion-on-question-by-mark-creekwater-can-one-calculate-the-size-i-e-the-r).  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2016-07-13. Score: 1

If I understand the question the answer is, no, you can't estimate the final size of the Universe by calculating the schwarzschild radius of the universe.

The mass of the Universe is not known, and may be infinite.

It is not know if the observable universe will ever stop expanding, however the evidence suggests that it won't, and so won't have an "ultimate" size.

The mass of the observable universe is of the order $10^{53}kg$, mostly comprised of dark energy and dark matter.

A black hole with that mass would have a radius of $2MG/c^2 = 10^{26}m$, which as has been observed is on the same order of magnitude as the (comoving) radius of the observable universe. Whether this has any cosmological implications is not clear. It doesn't imply that the Universe is a black hole. It doesn't say anything about the Universe at all, as this calculation was for the observable universe. It doesn't say anything about the "ultimate size" of the universe or the observable universe (which is expected to continue expanding without limit)

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: The "mass of the observable universe" is much greater than $10^{53}$ kg - you have not included dark matter/energy.  

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