<p>When the article speaks of the "age", what it means is that we are seeing that galaxy as it was a long time ago. We are seeing it as a very young galaxy. The galaxy is very far away, so light has taken a long time to reach us from the galaxy. The light from the galaxy is 11 billion years old. We measure the age of the galaxy by finding its distance from us.</p>

<p>To find the distance we use the Hubble Law, which states that the further away a galaxy is, the faster it moves away from us, due to the expansion of the universe. And we can measure the speed that the galaxy is moving away from us because when an object moves very fast, the light from that object becomes shifted towards longer wavelengths (red-shifted). By measuring light that is known to have a fixed wavelength when not red shifted, we can find the speed of the galaxy accurately, and then use the Hubble Law to find the distance, and hence the age of the galaxy. (<a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/1710.11130" rel="noreferrer">source</a>)</p>

<p>A1689B11 has a redshift z=2.54 which corresponds to a light travel time of <a href="http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html" rel="noreferrer">11.1 billion years</a></p>

<p>Gravitational lensing makes the galaxy brighter, so it can be observed at these immense distances, it isn't directly used for finding the distance, but without gravitational lensing, the galaxy wouldn't be visible.</p>

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finding distance is alright. But what is the relation between distance & age of galaxy ? Can you explain lucidly. I did not completely get hold of the paper. Thank You
Gauti
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I think you may be confusing the age of the galaxy, with the age of the light that is coming from the galaxy. See my edit.
James K
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@Gauti : it's like you see a movie made in 2008, and there's very young child called Abe in the movie. You know Abe is now at least 11 years old. You haven't actually measured his age, you've inferred it from something else.
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@JohnDuffield : so this age for galaxy is lower limit.  Thanks
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<p>Recently a galaxy A1689B11 was <a href="http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/most-ancient-spiral-galaxy-05401.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">discovered</a>, having an age of 11 billion years. How that age was determined? News sources reported that some cutting edge technology with gravitational lensing was used. Can anyone explain the exact procedure?</p>

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# How to determine the age of an old galaxy?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-01-06)

Recently a galaxy A1689B11 was [discovered](http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/most-ancient-spiral-galaxy-05401.html), having an age of 11 billion years. How that age was determined? News sources reported that some cutting edge technology with gravitational lensing was used. Can anyone explain the exact procedure?

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### Answer by username_1 on 2018-01-06. Score: 7

When the article speaks of the "age", what it means is that we are seeing that galaxy as it was a long time ago. We are seeing it as a very young galaxy. The galaxy is very far away, so light has taken a long time to reach us from the galaxy. The light from the galaxy is 11 billion years old. We measure the age of the galaxy by finding its distance from us.

To find the distance we use the Hubble Law, which states that the further away a galaxy is, the faster it moves away from us, due to the expansion of the universe. And we can measure the speed that the galaxy is moving away from us because when an object moves very fast, the light from that object becomes shifted towards longer wavelengths (red-shifted). By measuring light that is known to have a fixed wavelength when not red shifted, we can find the speed of the galaxy accurately, and then use the Hubble Law to find the distance, and hence the age of the galaxy. ([source](https://arxiv.org/abs/1710.11130))

A1689B11 has a redshift z=2.54 which corresponds to a light travel time of [11.1 billion years](http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html)

Gravitational lensing makes the galaxy brighter, so it can be observed at these immense distances, it isn't directly used for finding the distance, but without gravitational lensing, the galaxy wouldn't be visible.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: finding distance is alright. But what is the relation between distance & age of galaxy ? Can you explain lucidly. I did not completely get hold of the paper. Thank You  
> **username_1**: I think you may be confusing the age of the galaxy, with the age of the light that is coming from the galaxy. See my edit.  
> **username_2**: @username_0 : it's like you see a movie made in 2008, and there's very young child called Abe in the movie. You know Abe is now at least 11 years old. You haven't actually measured his age, you've inferred it from something else.  
> **username_0**: @JohnDuffield : so this age for galaxy is lower limit.  Thanks  

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