<p>I’d have to dig more to find some references, but the existence of <span class="math-container">$M &gt; 30\ M_{\rm Sun}$</span> black holes was a big surprise. So a bunch of the events that have been detected are from a class of objects that wasn’t predicted at all.  Originally I believe that neutron star - neutron star mergers were expected to be the main class of events.   I don’t know how that NS-NS merger rate has stacked up against expectations.</p>

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The existence of $\sim 30 M_\odot$ black holes *was* predicted by various models, and those models did indicate that if these populations did exist, they were likely to dominate the observed event rates.
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Interesting!  Just around 30, or larger as well?  I’d be interested in looking at a reference if you know of one. Certainly I agree that it’s the case that once you know that population is there, then that’s what you expect to be the strongest events, and to dominate the event rate if there are enough of them.
Eric Jensen
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See e.g. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1510.04615.pdf (and articles cited therein)
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Eric Jensen
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIGO" rel="nofollow noreferrer">LIGO's first light</a> was back in 2002 but it has only recently started regular observation. With roughy 50 events confirmed, is it possible to compare its detection rate to predicted rates?</p>
<p>There were probably some wide ranges bracketed, and predictions may have evolved after construction began as the science evolved, so there can't be a precise answer. But is it possible to at least say if the rate is <em>roughly in the same ballpark</em> as what was anticipated?</p>
<p>Are there any glaring deficiencies or surprisingly high rates for specific types of events at all?</p>
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<p>Observations are made in &quot;runs&quot;. <strong>As of December 2019, LIGO has made 3 runs, and made 50 detections of gravitational waves.</strong> Maintenance and upgrades of the detectors are made between runs. The first run, O1, which ran from 12 September 2015 to 19 January 2016, made the first 3 detections, all black hole mergers. The second run, O2, which ran from 30 November 2016 to 25 August 2017, made 8 detections, 7 black hole mergers, and the first neutron star merger. The third run, O3 began on 1 April 2019; it is divided (so far) into O3a, from 1 April to 30 September 2019, and O3b, from 1 November 2019 until it was suspended in March 2020 due to COVID-19.</p>
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Is the rate of gravitational wave detection roughly what was expected?
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# Is the rate of gravitational wave detection roughly what was expected?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2020-09-05)

[LIGO's first light](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIGO) was back in 2002 but it has only recently started regular observation. With roughy 50 events confirmed, is it possible to compare its detection rate to predicted rates?

There were probably some wide ranges bracketed, and predictions may have evolved after construction began as the science evolved, so there can't be a precise answer. But is it possible to at least say if the rate is *roughly in the same ballpark* as what was anticipated?

Are there any glaring deficiencies or surprisingly high rates for specific types of events at all?

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> Observations are made in "runs". **As of December 2019, LIGO has made 3 runs, and made 50 detections of gravitational waves.** Maintenance and upgrades of the detectors are made between runs. The first run, O1, which ran from 12 September 2015 to 19 January 2016, made the first 3 detections, all black hole mergers. The second run, O2, which ran from 30 November 2016 to 25 August 2017, made 8 detections, 7 black hole mergers, and the first neutron star merger. The third run, O3 began on 1 April 2019; it is divided (so far) into O3a, from 1 April to 30 September 2019, and O3b, from 1 November 2019 until it was suspended in March 2020 due to COVID-19.

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2020-09-05. Score: 2 | Accepted answer

I’d have to dig more to find some references, but the existence of $M > 30\ M\_{\rm Sun}$ black holes was a big surprise. So a bunch of the events that have been detected are from a class of objects that wasn’t predicted at all. Originally I believe that neutron star - neutron star mergers were expected to be the main class of events. I don’t know how that NS-NS merger rate has stacked up against expectations.

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: The existence of $\sim 30 M_\odot$ black holes *was* predicted by various models, and those models did indicate that if these populations did exist, they were likely to dominate the observed event rates.  
> **username_1**: Interesting!  Just around 30, or larger as well?  I’d be interested in looking at a reference if you know of one. Certainly I agree that it’s the case that once you know that population is there, then that’s what you expect to be the strongest events, and to dominate the event rate if there are enough of them.  
> **username_2**: See e.g. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1510.04615.pdf (and articles cited therein)  

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