<p>You misunderstand the very nature of such an interaction. An elastic collision with enough energy to knock the moon out of orbit would need a dwarf planet sized object to impact the moon. But such a collision wouldn't be elastic but disintegrate the two bodies.  </p>

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Did I say it needed to be elastic? Or that the moon needed to be intact afterward?
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<p>Basically no and not by a long shot.   The asteroid's measurements are pretty vague, but lets give it a nice clean 600 meters in diameter and the same density of the moon.   The moon is 3,474 km in diameter or 3,474,000 meters.   So the moon is nearly 5,790 times the diameter and that gives is 194 billion times the mass as that asteroid.    Conservation of momentum, if the asteroid transfers all of it's 78,000 mph into the moon, with no energy going into angular momentum, 78,000 / 194,000,000,000 = .0000004 mph.   That's roughly the speed your fingernails grow.</p>

<p>To knock the moon out of orbit, it's velocity would need to be increased by oh, very rough ballpark, maybe 400-500 mph.   The additional velocity needed for the moon to reach escape velocity from the Earth is .414 x 2288 or about 947 mph, but given that it has an elongated orbit and that it would escape the Earth's sphere of influence well below escape velocity, maybe as little 400 extra MPH could knock the moon into a far enough orbit that it could escape the Earth.  </p>

<p>Figuring 78,000 MPH, and you want to move the moon some 400 or more MPH with ah it just right, you'd need an object about a 5th or 6th the diameter of the moon or 600 KM in diameter give or take, assuming it was straight on impact as a glancing blow would lose a share of energy into angular momentum and assuming it hits the moon away from the Earth, not towards as towards would require even more energy.</p>

<p>This space pebble doesn't even come close.   You'd need something the size of a small dwarf planet to have a chance at knocking the moon out of the Earth's orbit and that speed.</p>

<p>300-600 meters is huge, if it hits the Earth.  That's probably a few square miles of earth practically leveled to the ground and broken windows and knocked down trees a good deal further than that.   If it hits the moon it would leave a nice crater, maybe a miles or two across but that's about it.</p>

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  <p>It seems like you're only talking about the moon being kicked out into
  space. Would the same amount of energy be needed to knock the moon out
  of its orbit in towards Earth?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The mathematics of crashing is a bit more complicated.   Escape Velocity vs Orbital Velocity is easy, just straight multiplication.   <a href="http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/vesc.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">More details here</a>, and because the Moon wouldn't need to reach full escaple velocity, I cut the number in half - and it might be a bit less than that.</p>

<p>Moon's orbital Speed (2,288 MPH) x (Square root of 2 minus 1, or 0.414).</p>

<p>Crashing the Moon into the Earth - a bit harder.  There's probably a simple enough formula, but I'm not sure what it is, but I believe that would take even more energy.   </p>

<p>It's discussed <a href="https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/212494/what-happens-if-you-slow-down-a-moon">here</a> without math and <a href="https://www.quora.com/How-much-energy-would-it-take-to-crash-the-moon-into-the-Earth" rel="nofollow noreferrer">here</a>, with math.  But it would take a huge amount of energy, probably 3 or 4 times more energy to push the Moon into the Earth than to push it out of orbit if I was to guess.</p>

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Thanks. Someone at work asked the question. I figured it was too small, but we had no idea how big it would need to be. It seems like you're only talking about the moon being kicked out into space. Would the same amount of energy be needed to knock the moon out of its orbit in towards Earth?
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I'll give a rough answer to your question above, as it's too long for a comment.
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<p>As describe in <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/21/us/asteroid-earth-nasa-halloween-feat/index.html" rel="nofollow">this CNN article</a>, an asteroid is going to pass near the Earth on Halloween.</p>

<p>The article says that </p>

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  <p>As it misses Earth by about 300,000 miles (slightly farther away than the moon), the asteroid, named 2015 TB145, will be visible to those with good telescopes</p>
</blockquote>

<p>and that</p>

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  <p>It's a good thing it will miss, though. The asteroid is estimated to be 300 to 600 meters wide and traveling at 78,000 mph.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>If, hypothetically, this asteroid actually hit the moon, could it knock it out of orbit? How about another, contrived asteroid with whatever properties are needed?</p>

<p>To be clear, when I say "out of its orbit" I'm including both the orbit decaying and the moon crashing into Earth, and the moon being knocked out into space away from the Earth's influence. Either would do.</p>

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Could an asteroid knock the moon out of its orbit?
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# Could an asteroid knock the moon out of its orbit?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2015-10-21)

As describe in [this CNN article](http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/21/us/asteroid-earth-nasa-halloween-feat/index.html), an asteroid is going to pass near the Earth on Halloween.

The article says that

> As it misses Earth by about 300,000 miles (slightly farther away than the moon), the asteroid, named 2015 TB145, will be visible to those with good telescopes

and that

> It's a good thing it will miss, though. The asteroid is estimated to be 300 to 600 meters wide and traveling at 78,000 mph.

If, hypothetically, this asteroid actually hit the moon, could it knock it out of orbit? How about another, contrived asteroid with whatever properties are needed?

To be clear, when I say "out of its orbit" I'm including both the orbit decaying and the moon crashing into Earth, and the moon being knocked out into space away from the Earth's influence. Either would do.

**Tags:** orbit, the-moon, asteroids


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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2015-10-22. Score: 5 | Accepted answer

Basically no and not by a long shot. The asteroid's measurements are pretty vague, but lets give it a nice clean 600 meters in diameter and the same density of the moon. The moon is 3,474 km in diameter or 3,474,000 meters. So the moon is nearly 5,790 times the diameter and that gives is 194 billion times the mass as that asteroid. Conservation of momentum, if the asteroid transfers all of it's 78,000 mph into the moon, with no energy going into angular momentum, 78,000 / 194,000,000,000 = .0000004 mph. That's roughly the speed your fingernails grow.

To knock the moon out of orbit, it's velocity would need to be increased by oh, very rough ballpark, maybe 400-500 mph. The additional velocity needed for the moon to reach escape velocity from the Earth is .414 x 2288 or about 947 mph, but given that it has an elongated orbit and that it would escape the Earth's sphere of influence well below escape velocity, maybe as little 400 extra MPH could knock the moon into a far enough orbit that it could escape the Earth.

Figuring 78,000 MPH, and you want to move the moon some 400 or more MPH with ah it just right, you'd need an object about a 5th or 6th the diameter of the moon or 600 KM in diameter give or take, assuming it was straight on impact as a glancing blow would lose a share of energy into angular momentum and assuming it hits the moon away from the Earth, not towards as towards would require even more energy.

This space pebble doesn't even come close. You'd need something the size of a small dwarf planet to have a chance at knocking the moon out of the Earth's orbit and that speed.

300-600 meters is huge, if it hits the Earth. That's probably a few square miles of earth practically leveled to the ground and broken windows and knocked down trees a good deal further than that. If it hits the moon it would leave a nice crater, maybe a miles or two across but that's about it.

> It seems like you're only talking about the moon being kicked out into
> space. Would the same amount of energy be needed to knock the moon out
> of its orbit in towards Earth?

The mathematics of crashing is a bit more complicated. Escape Velocity vs Orbital Velocity is easy, just straight multiplication. [More details here](http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/vesc.html), and because the Moon wouldn't need to reach full escaple velocity, I cut the number in half - and it might be a bit less than that.

Moon's orbital Speed (2,288 MPH) x (Square root of 2 minus 1, or 0.414).

Crashing the Moon into the Earth - a bit harder. There's probably a simple enough formula, but I'm not sure what it is, but I believe that would take even more energy.

It's discussed [here](https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/212494/what-happens-if-you-slow-down-a-moon) without math and [here](https://www.quora.com/How-much-energy-would-it-take-to-crash-the-moon-into-the-Earth), with math. But it would take a huge amount of energy, probably 3 or 4 times more energy to push the Moon into the Earth than to push it out of orbit if I was to guess.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Thanks. Someone at work asked the question. I figured it was too small, but we had no idea how big it would need to be. It seems like you're only talking about the moon being kicked out into space. Would the same amount of energy be needed to knock the moon out of its orbit in towards Earth?  
> **username_2**: I'll give a rough answer to your question above, as it's too long for a comment.  

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### Answer by username_1 on 2015-10-23. Score: 1

You misunderstand the very nature of such an interaction. An elastic collision with enough energy to knock the moon out of orbit would need a dwarf planet sized object to impact the moon. But such a collision wouldn't be elastic but disintegrate the two bodies.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Did I say it needed to be elastic? Or that the moon needed to be intact afterward?  

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