<p>Did you read this section of the documentation?  It suggests there are ways to deal with it, but I have not examined the paper it refers to.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>• For closely aligned sources (separated by 0.2–0.3 arcsec), which are only occasionally resolved in the Gaia observations, confusion in the observation-to-source matching can lead to spurious parallax values which are either very large or have a negative value very far away from zero in terms of the formal parallax uncertainty quoted in the catalogue. These sources tend to be faint and located in crowded regions and are also associated with unreliable (large) proper motions (Gaia Collaboration et al. 2018b). Guidance on how to clean samples from spurious parallax values is provided in Lindegren et al. (<a href="https://gea.esac.esa.int/archive/documentation/GDR2/bib.html#bib2" rel="noreferrer">2018</a>).</p>
</blockquote>

<p>It also says there's a small bias, but it shouldn't be universally removed.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>• The systematic errors in the parallaxes are estimated to be below the 0.1 mas level (Lindegren et al. 2018) but the following systematics remain. There is an overall parallax zeropoint which, from an examination of QSO parallaxes, is estimated to be around −0.03 mas (in the sense of the Gaia DR2 parallaxes being too small). The estimated parallax zeropoint depends on the sample of sources examined (Arenou et al. 2018) and the value above should not be used to ’correct’ the catalogue parallax values....</p>
</blockquote>

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<p>It depends how negative the parallax is and what your &quot;prior&quot; knowledge is of the distance to the star.</p>
<p>As another answer suggests, there are some spurious large negative (and positive) parallaxes for faint, crowded sources. If possible, these should be removed.</p>
<p>If this is not the case, and the parallax is negative, but close to zero within its uncertainty, then it is telling you that you have a lower limit to the distance of the object (i.e. measurement uncertainties have led to a small negative parallax). Crudely speaking, you could add a couple of error bars to the parallax and treat that as a 95% upper limit (remember the 0.1 mas possible systematic error too [in Gaia DR2]).</p>
<p>Under no circumstances should you &quot;use them as is&quot;, since there is no physical basis for a negative parallax or negative distance. The correct approach (a Monte-Carlo Bayesian inference, with some assumption of the prior probability distribution of distance) is described by <a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.09376" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Luri et al. (2018)</a>.</p>

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Statistician Hat On:  it is technically legal to have an error range which includes unattainable values, e.g., scoring 103% on an exam, but as those sort of reports tend to confuse the heck out of GenPop it's a good idea to truncate the reported error bars.
Carl Witthoft
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@CarlWitthoft except here, it is perfectly possible to obtain a negative Parallax as the result of uncertainties. What is not possible is a negative distance, but then you would only get that by naively inverting the parallax to obtain a distance, which is incorrect methodology.
ProfRob
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What is the correct methodology to obtain reasonable distances from negative parallaxes?
Elena Greg
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@ElenaGreg you would do a Monte-Carlo Bayesian estimation and the answer you get would be that the distance probability distribution starts at some finite distance, but then has an upper limit that is only constrained by the prior probability distribution you assume. If none of that makes sense you should look at Luri et al. (2018)  https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.09376
ProfRob
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Thank you so much
Elena Greg
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ProfRob
<p>Although should not use the negative parallaxes, you should not ignore them either. If you are looking at populations of objects, removing those with negative parallaxes will lead to significant bias in your results, as <a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.09376" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Luri et al. 2018</a> has shown.</p>

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Welcome! OK, but what _should_ one do with them?
Mike G
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Andrew
<p>Negative parallaxes can be interpreted as the observer (in this case Gaia satellite) going the "wrong way around the sun" as mentioned in <a href="https://github.com/agabrown/astrometry-inference-tutorials/blob/master/luminosity-calibration/DemoNegativeParallax.ipynb" rel="nofollow noreferrer">this</a> Jupyter Notebook by Anthony Brown. This notebook is meant to supplement the <a href="https://arxiv.org/pdf/1804.09376.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Luri+ 2018</a> paper that has been mentioned in other answers and comments here.</p>

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nmg
<p>In the FWIW department, I did a check of all the Gaia release 3 stars within 28' of the center of Omega Cen with proper motion parallax angles between 89 and 200 degrees (North is 0). When only positive parallaxes (in miliarc seconds) are considered, we get:</p>
<p>41230: px: min: 6e-05, max:25.6742, mean:0.597625, stdDev: 0.730838. 5457.66 light years.</p>
<p>Meaning that there were 41,230 stars with positive parallax, and using the mean value, a distance of 5457.66 light years.</p>
<p>When all parallaxes were considered, there were 57,090 parallaxes found and the mean value gave a distance of 12,409 light years.</p>
<p>57090: px: min: -13.9651, max:25.6742, mean:0.262844, stdDev: 0.933312. 12409 ly.</p>
<p>Wikipedia lists the distance of Omega Cen as 15,790 light years. Impossible as they seem, based on a reference grid of quasars, the negative parallaxes improve the result, although it's still quite a way off. Note also that the error bars on a parallax of 0.262844 miliarc seconds are huge, compared to the value of the parallax.</p>
<p>(If you prefer parsecs, divide by 3.26.)</p>
<p>Other data from the study:</p>
<p>57090: pmA: min: 89.467, max: 199.995, mean:144.201, stdDev: 25.7073.</p>
<p>57090: mg: min: 21.15, max:8.74, mean:18.8352, stdDev: 1.46662.</p>
<p>57090: pm: min: 0.0329112, max:324.281, mean:8.05287, stdDev: 4.21591.</p>
<p>854: rv: min: -126.413, max:440.969, mean:89.9555, stdDev: 122.159.</p>
<p>pmA is the proper motion angle (between 89 - 200 degrees).</p>
<p>mg is the Gaia G band magnitude.</p>
<p>pm is the amount of proper motion, in miliarc seconds.</p>
<p>rv is radial velocity in km/sec.</p>

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I'm missing an answer to the actual question asked
planetmaker
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This result shows that in some circumstances, the negative parallaxes give a more accurate result when calculating the statistics of a very crowded star field.
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<p>The Gaia data release 2 dataset has some parallaxes listed as negative. What is the proper interpretation of this? Should they be discarded as bad data? Use their absolute value to calculate the distance? Use them as-is and treat them as negative distances along the right ascension/declination vector?</p>

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[Luri et al. 2018](https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.09376) looks relevant.
Mike G
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What is the proper interpretation of a negative parallax?
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# What is the proper interpretation of a negative parallax?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-05-11)

The Gaia data release 2 dataset has some parallaxes listed as negative. What is the proper interpretation of this? Should they be discarded as bad data? Use their absolute value to calculate the distance? Use them as-is and treat them as negative distances along the right ascension/declination vector?

**Tags:** parallax, gaia

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: [Luri et al. 2018](https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.09376) looks relevant.  

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## 5 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2018-05-11. Score: 9

Did you read this section of the documentation? It suggests there are ways to deal with it, but I have not examined the paper it refers to.

> • For closely aligned sources (separated by 0.2–0.3 arcsec), which are only occasionally resolved in the Gaia observations, confusion in the observation-to-source matching can lead to spurious parallax values which are either very large or have a negative value very far away from zero in terms of the formal parallax uncertainty quoted in the catalogue. These sources tend to be faint and located in crowded regions and are also associated with unreliable (large) proper motions (Gaia Collaboration et al. 2018b). Guidance on how to clean samples from spurious parallax values is provided in Lindegren et al. ([2018](https://gea.esac.esa.int/archive/documentation/GDR2/bib.html#bib2)).

It also says there's a small bias, but it shouldn't be universally removed.

> • The systematic errors in the parallaxes are estimated to be below the 0.1 mas level (Lindegren et al. 2018) but the following systematics remain. There is an overall parallax zeropoint which, from an examination of QSO parallaxes, is estimated to be around −0.03 mas (in the sense of the Gaia DR2 parallaxes being too small). The estimated parallax zeropoint depends on the sample of sources examined (Arenou et al. 2018) and the value above should not be used to ’correct’ the catalogue parallax values....


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### Answer by username_3 on 2018-05-11. Score: 5

It depends how negative the parallax is and what your "prior" knowledge is of the distance to the star.

As another answer suggests, there are some spurious large negative (and positive) parallaxes for faint, crowded sources. If possible, these should be removed.

If this is not the case, and the parallax is negative, but close to zero within its uncertainty, then it is telling you that you have a lower limit to the distance of the object (i.e. measurement uncertainties have led to a small negative parallax). Crudely speaking, you could add a couple of error bars to the parallax and treat that as a 95% upper limit (remember the 0.1 mas possible systematic error too [in Gaia DR2]).

Under no circumstances should you "use them as is", since there is no physical basis for a negative parallax or negative distance. The correct approach (a Monte-Carlo Bayesian inference, with some assumption of the prior probability distribution of distance) is described by [Luri et al. (2018)](https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.09376).

> **Comments:**
> **username_4**: Statistician Hat On:  it is technically legal to have an error range which includes unattainable values, e.g., scoring 103% on an exam, but as those sort of reports tend to confuse the heck out of GenPop it's a good idea to truncate the reported error bars.  
> **username_3**: @CarlWitthoft except here, it is perfectly possible to obtain a negative Parallax as the result of uncertainties. What is not possible is a negative distance, but then you would only get that by naively inverting the parallax to obtain a distance, which is incorrect methodology.  
> **username_5**: What is the correct methodology to obtain reasonable distances from negative parallaxes?  
> **username_3**: @ElenaGreg you would do a Monte-Carlo Bayesian estimation and the answer you get would be that the distance probability distribution starts at some finite distance, but then has an upper limit that is only constrained by the prior probability distribution you assume. If none of that makes sense you should look at Luri et al. (2018)  https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.09376  
> **username_5**: Thank you so much  

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### Answer by username_6 on 2018-06-29. Score: 4

Although should not use the negative parallaxes, you should not ignore them either. If you are looking at populations of objects, removing those with negative parallaxes will lead to significant bias in your results, as [Luri et al. 2018](https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.09376) has shown.

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Welcome! OK, but what _should_ one do with them?  

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### Answer by username_7 on 2019-09-11. Score: 4

Negative parallaxes can be interpreted as the observer (in this case Gaia satellite) going the "wrong way around the sun" as mentioned in [this](https://github.com/agabrown/astrometry-inference-tutorials/blob/master/luminosity-calibration/DemoNegativeParallax.ipynb) Jupyter Notebook by Anthony Brown. This notebook is meant to supplement the [Luri+ 2018](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1804.09376.pdf) paper that has been mentioned in other answers and comments here.


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### Answer by username_8 on 2023-06-30. Score: 0

In the FWIW department, I did a check of all the Gaia release 3 stars within 28' of the center of Omega Cen with proper motion parallax angles between 89 and 200 degrees (North is 0). When only positive parallaxes (in miliarc seconds) are considered, we get:

41230: px: min: 6e-05, max:25.6742, mean:0.597625, stdDev: 0.730838. 5457.66 light years.

Meaning that there were 41,230 stars with positive parallax, and using the mean value, a distance of 5457.66 light years.

When all parallaxes were considered, there were 57,090 parallaxes found and the mean value gave a distance of 12,409 light years.

57090: px: min: -13.9651, max:25.6742, mean:0.262844, stdDev: 0.933312. 12409 ly.

Wikipedia lists the distance of Omega Cen as 15,790 light years. Impossible as they seem, based on a reference grid of quasars, the negative parallaxes improve the result, although it's still quite a way off. Note also that the error bars on a parallax of 0.262844 miliarc seconds are huge, compared to the value of the parallax.

(If you prefer parsecs, divide by 3.26.)

Other data from the study:

57090: pmA: min: 89.467, max: 199.995, mean:144.201, stdDev: 25.7073.

57090: mg: min: 21.15, max:8.74, mean:18.8352, stdDev: 1.46662.

57090: pm: min: 0.0329112, max:324.281, mean:8.05287, stdDev: 4.21591.

854: rv: min: -126.413, max:440.969, mean:89.9555, stdDev: 122.159.

pmA is the proper motion angle (between 89 - 200 degrees).

mg is the Gaia G band magnitude.

pm is the amount of proper motion, in miliarc seconds.

rv is radial velocity in km/sec.

> **Comments:**
> **username_9**: I'm missing an answer to the actual question asked  
> **username_8**: This result shows that in some circumstances, the negative parallaxes give a more accurate result when calculating the statistics of a very crowded star field.  

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