<p>Most observatories have a pot of Director's Discretionary Time (DDT) available to respond to these sort of unexpected events that were not part of the regular (normally) 6-month proposal cycle. The procedure and how quickly they respond varies from observatory to observatory but generally you send an abbreviated proposal of what you want to do and how much telescope time it will need and it gets considered in a short time and granted time if appropriate. The kilonova last year and SN1987A would be other examples were these this has happened in the past.</p>

<p>For queue-scheduled telescopes, the new observations can be fitted into the queue fairly easily; for classically scheduled telescope where the proposer is at the telescope, then things get more complicated as that observer and observing will need to moved to a different later time if possible. For very rapid turnaround, particularly on classically scheduled telescopes, the "normal" procedure is to find out who's on the telescope that night from the schedule and email that observer or phone the control room and see if they will observe your object for you while you work on the DDT proposal...</p>

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2018-11-08T20:56:06.120Z
Thanks, especially for the examples of other unpredictable important events.
Everyday Astronaut
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2018-11-08T10:00:06.407Z
Your last few sentences could get you banned as an ESO observer.
ProfRob
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Also, the prompt observation of the kilonova/GW event will have been as a result of ToO proposals, not DDT proposals.
ProfRob
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2018-11-07T21:23:20.453Z
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astrosnapper
<p>For observing "predictable" transient events (e.g. Gamma Ray burst or gravitational wave events), observers <em>apply</em> (i.e. write a proposal for peer review) for "target of opportunity" (ToO)time in advance. Typically, you might say we expect LIGO to give us 2 reasonably located, strong GW events dutring the next semester and we would like 3 hours of telescope time to follow each one of these up.</p>

<p>If the proposal is approved, then the ToO time can be "triggered" by the proposers at any time (up to their maximum of 2 events per semester, or whatever they got approved for), by contacting the observers who are currently at the telescope and asking them to execute the ToO observing that they asked for. The current observers programme is interrupted (and they may <em>not</em> be compensated for this, other than perhaps co-authorship on a paper arising from the ToO).</p>

<p>Totally unpredictable events like Oumuamua or a new Galactic Supernova have to rely on director's discretionary time (DDT). This is a fast track, way of getting <em>some</em> observing time. It is still peer-reviewed to some extent and only meritorious proposals will get any time allocated. Often a DDT proposal could be approved within 48 hours.</p>

<p>If something truly extraordinary happened (and I would not classify Oumuamua in this way) that required observing <strong>right now</strong>, such as for example a local supernova, then I imagine that any observer at a telescope would be happy to break off what they are doing and point whatever instruments they had at it. It should be noted though that there is a risk here. At many observatories (for example ESO) you are only supposed to observe what you said you were going to observe. Departures from this can get you into trouble. A wise observer would seek permission from observatory staff/astronomers before chasing up some object somebody phoned up and asked them to observe.</p>

<p>See <a href="https://www.eso.org/sci/facilities/paranal/sciops/ToO_policies.html" rel="noreferrer">https://www.eso.org/sci/facilities/paranal/sciops/ToO_policies.html</a> for some more information on how these policies and procedures work at ESO.</p>

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ProfRob
<p>During the rapid passing of ʻOumuamua through our solar system, it was <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfi3w9Bzwik&amp;t=3m59s" rel="noreferrer">difficult</a> to get instant telescope time. Usually, formal requests and a review process are necessary before telescope time is provided to a particular project.</p>

<p>Now everybody is excited and eager to observe more interstellar objects. Did "they" set up an appropriate request procedure for immediate telescope usage for that matter? Or can one expect that similar hurdles and paperwork are required when the next such object is discovered?</p>

<p>Is there any kind of international standard, or are such requests managed individually by each observatory?</p>

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2018-11-07T10:03:35.420Z
That rock may have caused a lot of media stir, but itinerant rocks are not really all that important in scientific terms IMO.  It's not totally unimportant, but it's hard to justify delaying other observations to test theories and other ongoing programs for every little rock that wanders by. :-)
StephenG - Help Ukraine
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2018-11-07T12:07:32.413Z
@StephenG it seems that the scientific community felt otherwise https://i.sstatic.net/qHjiF.png
uhoh
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2018-11-07T12:10:41.843Z
@StephenG I was going to say something similar.  Especially given the oddness of Oumuamua, I think there's increased interest in "little rocks" that come from outside the solar system.
userLTK
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2018-11-08T03:55:03.177Z
If you want to learn more about the latest research of Oumuamua, check out this link. Many scientists are still working on it to understand the oddness of this rock. https://aasnova.org/2018/11/07/revisiting-interstellar-asteroid-oumuamua/
Study Astrophysics
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2018-11-08T09:30:10.063Z
Isn't it too far to see anything even with the best telescopes?
Florin Andrei
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After Oumuamua passage, has an "urgency" telescope time request procedure been set up?
Everyday Astronaut
# After Oumuamua passage, has an "urgency" telescope time request procedure been set up?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-11-07)

During the rapid passing of ʻOumuamua through our solar system, it was [difficult](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfi3w9Bzwik&t=3m59s) to get instant telescope time. Usually, formal requests and a review process are necessary before telescope time is provided to a particular project.

Now everybody is excited and eager to observe more interstellar objects. Did "they" set up an appropriate request procedure for immediate telescope usage for that matter? Or can one expect that similar hurdles and paperwork are required when the next such object is discovered?

Is there any kind of international standard, or are such requests managed individually by each observatory?

**Tags:** telescope, observational-astronomy, observatory, oumuamua

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: That rock may have caused a lot of media stir, but itinerant rocks are not really all that important in scientific terms IMO.  It's not totally unimportant, but it's hard to justify delaying other observations to test theories and other ongoing programs for every little rock that wanders by. :-)  
> **username_2**: @StephenG it seems that the scientific community felt otherwise https://i.sstatic.net/qHjiF.png  
> **username_3**: @StephenG I was going to say something similar.  Especially given the oddness of Oumuamua, I think there's increased interest in "little rocks" that come from outside the solar system.  
> **username_4**: If you want to learn more about the latest research of Oumuamua, check out this link. Many scientists are still working on it to understand the oddness of this rock. https://aasnova.org/2018/11/07/revisiting-interstellar-asteroid-oumuamua/  
> **username_5**: Isn't it too far to see anything even with the best telescopes?  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_7 on 2018-11-08. Score: 6 | Accepted answer

For observing "predictable" transient events (e.g. Gamma Ray burst or gravitational wave events), observers *apply* (i.e. write a proposal for peer review) for "target of opportunity" (ToO)time in advance. Typically, you might say we expect LIGO to give us 2 reasonably located, strong GW events dutring the next semester and we would like 3 hours of telescope time to follow each one of these up.

If the proposal is approved, then the ToO time can be "triggered" by the proposers at any time (up to their maximum of 2 events per semester, or whatever they got approved for), by contacting the observers who are currently at the telescope and asking them to execute the ToO observing that they asked for. The current observers programme is interrupted (and they may *not* be compensated for this, other than perhaps co-authorship on a paper arising from the ToO).

Totally unpredictable events like Oumuamua or a new Galactic Supernova have to rely on director's discretionary time (DDT). This is a fast track, way of getting *some* observing time. It is still peer-reviewed to some extent and only meritorious proposals will get any time allocated. Often a DDT proposal could be approved within 48 hours.

If something truly extraordinary happened (and I would not classify Oumuamua in this way) that required observing **right now**, such as for example a local supernova, then I imagine that any observer at a telescope would be happy to break off what they are doing and point whatever instruments they had at it. It should be noted though that there is a risk here. At many observatories (for example ESO) you are only supposed to observe what you said you were going to observe. Departures from this can get you into trouble. A wise observer would seek permission from observatory staff/astronomers before chasing up some object somebody phoned up and asked them to observe.

See <https://www.eso.org/sci/facilities/paranal/sciops/ToO_policies.html> for some more information on how these policies and procedures work at ESO.


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### Answer by username_6 on 2018-11-07. Score: 2

Most observatories have a pot of Director's Discretionary Time (DDT) available to respond to these sort of unexpected events that were not part of the regular (normally) 6-month proposal cycle. The procedure and how quickly they respond varies from observatory to observatory but generally you send an abbreviated proposal of what you want to do and how much telescope time it will need and it gets considered in a short time and granted time if appropriate. The kilonova last year and SN1987A would be other examples were these this has happened in the past.

For queue-scheduled telescopes, the new observations can be fitted into the queue fairly easily; for classically scheduled telescope where the proposer is at the telescope, then things get more complicated as that observer and observing will need to moved to a different later time if possible. For very rapid turnaround, particularly on classically scheduled telescopes, the "normal" procedure is to find out who's on the telescope that night from the schedule and email that observer or phone the control room and see if they will observe your object for you while you work on the DDT proposal...

> **Comments:**
> **username_7**: Your last few sentences could get you banned as an ESO observer.  
> **username_0**: Thanks, especially for the examples of other unpredictable important events.  
> **username_7**: Also, the prompt observation of the kilonova/GW event will have been as a result of ToO proposals, not DDT proposals.  

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