<p><a href="https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/questions/822/how-far-is-the-earth-sun-above-below-the-galactic-plane-and-is-it-heading-towar">The sun is within a few parsec (15-25 pc) of the galactic plane</a>, slightly above. The thin disk of the milky way (containing ~85% of the stars and gas) has a density going roughly like $\rho_0 \exp(-|z|/300 pc)$, while the thick disk (older stars, a few percent) has a scale height of 1000 pc instead. So if we want to move up (galactic north) above 90% of the star density we would have to move ~680 parsec, and going down 720 parsec. At this point at least the view would be splendid, but there would still be a fair number of thick disk and halo stars above and below. </p>

<p>The disk has a scale length of 2.5–4.5 kiloparsec (kpc) and the sun is about 8 kpc away from the core, so we are already outside nearly 90% of the stars (not even counting the bulge). The radius is commonly given as 15.5-27.5 kpc, so we are 7.5-19.5 kpc from the nearest edge and 15.5-27.5 kpc from the far edge. </p>

<p>If we count the dark matter halo the distances get even fuzzier. The virial radius (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virial_theorem#In_astrophysics" rel="noreferrer">a rough measure of where most mass is inside most of the time</a>) is <a href="http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006MNRAS.369.1688D" rel="noreferrer">200 kpc</a>, so we are basically 200 kpc away from that distance in most directions.</p>

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2018-03-12T19:33:26.923Z
Seems weird to hear that something is "above" something else when talking about space. Still, good answer.
maxathousand
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2018-03-12T20:31:09.613Z
@maxathousand It's all about frame of reference. Strictly speaking, it's weird that we talk about up and down on the roughly spherical globe, yet we all have this perception that the north pole is the "top" and Antarctica is the bottom. I like to wait a while before I accept an answer in case others come along, but this looks good. Thanks!
jpmc26
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2018-03-12T20:34:05.653Z
No argument here! Just struck me as weird :)
maxathousand
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2018-03-12T20:49:03.200Z
This is also why "galactic north" is a better term than "up", because it at least hints at what coordinate system is being used. (Still, the galactic coordinate system does not really use "galactic west" or east...)
Anders Sandberg
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2018-03-12T22:02:36.950Z
@AndersSandberg up, down, hubward, rimward, turnwise, and widdershins :)
hobbs
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2018-03-13T07:01:25.423Z
@hobbs I was told the correct term is "spinward".
ProfRob
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2018-03-13T10:14:34.763Z
@hobbs thanks for adding a most entertaining word to my vocabulary!
Chappo Hasn't Forgotten
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2018-03-13T10:39:37.983Z
@RobJeffries: No, definitely [turnwise](https://wiki.lspace.org/mediawiki/Turnwise)
Martin Bonner supports Monica
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2018-03-13T11:00:13.783Z
Turnwise is Pratchett, just like White Dwarves would be Tolkien. Indeed "spinward" is also a fiction term (Larry Niven, I think), but most definitely adopted before Pratchett. international-dictionary.com/definitions/?english_word=spinward  http://www.yourdictionary.com/spinward
ProfRob
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2018-03-13T11:40:57.943Z
I think the correct terms are "widdershins" and "anti-widdershins".  Well, if not the correct ones, at least the most entertaining.
fluffysheap
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2018-03-15T12:39:31.680Z
The traditional complement to widdershins is [deosil](https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/60703/etymological-origin-of-deosil-and-widdershins)
PM 2Ring
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Anders Sandberg
<p>How far is the sun from the edge of the galaxy in the following directions?</p>

<ul>
<li>Moving along the shortest path parallel to the galactic plane (outward radially)</li>
<li>Moving along the longest path parallel to the galactic plane (radially presumably passing through the center)</li>
<li>Moving along the shortest path perpendicular to the galactic plane ("up")</li>
<li>Moving along the longest path perpendicular to the galactic plane ("down")</li>
</ul>

<p>I realize these distances may be somewhat fuzzy (edge of galaxy is probably hard to define exactly, galaxy isn't exactly an ellipse, computing distances like this are hard even if the boundaries weren't fuzzy), so ranges and uncertainties are fine. I don't expect precision like computing whether certain points on the edge might be closer than just going straight out from the center and the like.</p>

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I could use some help with the tags, if someone doesn't mind. In particular, I don't know if [tag:positional-astronomy] is a good tag or if I've used it correctly. (It doesn't have a wiki.)
jpmc26
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2018-03-12T17:50:10.900Z
Related: https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/q/5994/2153.
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How far do we have to go to leave the galaxy?
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# How far do we have to go to leave the galaxy?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-03-12)

How far is the sun from the edge of the galaxy in the following directions?

* Moving along the shortest path parallel to the galactic plane (outward radially)
* Moving along the longest path parallel to the galactic plane (radially presumably passing through the center)
* Moving along the shortest path perpendicular to the galactic plane ("up")
* Moving along the longest path perpendicular to the galactic plane ("down")

I realize these distances may be somewhat fuzzy (edge of galaxy is probably hard to define exactly, galaxy isn't exactly an ellipse, computing distances like this are hard even if the boundaries weren't fuzzy), so ranges and uncertainties are fine. I don't expect precision like computing whether certain points on the edge might be closer than just going straight out from the center and the like.

**Tags:** the-sun, milky-way, positional-astronomy

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: I could use some help with the tags, if someone doesn't mind. In particular, I don't know if [tag:positional-astronomy] is a good tag or if I've used it correctly. (It doesn't have a wiki.)  
> **username_1**: Related: https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/q/5994/2153.  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2018-03-12. Score: 25 | Accepted answer

[The sun is within a few parsec (15-25 pc) of the galactic plane](https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/questions/822/how-far-is-the-earth-sun-above-below-the-galactic-plane-and-is-it-heading-towar), slightly above. The thin disk of the milky way (containing ~85% of the stars and gas) has a density going roughly like $\rho\_0 \exp(-|z|/300 pc)$, while the thick disk (older stars, a few percent) has a scale height of 1000 pc instead. So if we want to move up (galactic north) above 90% of the star density we would have to move ~680 parsec, and going down 720 parsec. At this point at least the view would be splendid, but there would still be a fair number of thick disk and halo stars above and below.

The disk has a scale length of 2.5–4.5 kiloparsec (kpc) and the sun is about 8 kpc away from the core, so we are already outside nearly 90% of the stars (not even counting the bulge). The radius is commonly given as 15.5-27.5 kpc, so we are 7.5-19.5 kpc from the nearest edge and 15.5-27.5 kpc from the far edge.

If we count the dark matter halo the distances get even fuzzier. The virial radius ([a rough measure of where most mass is inside most of the time](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virial_theorem#In_astrophysics)) is [200 kpc](http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006MNRAS.369.1688D), so we are basically 200 kpc away from that distance in most directions.

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: Seems weird to hear that something is "above" something else when talking about space. Still, good answer.  
> **username_0**: @username_3 It's all about frame of reference. Strictly speaking, it's weird that we talk about up and down on the roughly spherical globe, yet we all have this perception that the north pole is the "top" and Antarctica is the bottom. I like to wait a while before I accept an answer in case others come along, but this looks good. Thanks!  
> **username_3**: No argument here! Just struck me as weird :)  
> **username_2**: This is also why "galactic north" is a better term than "up", because it at least hints at what coordinate system is being used. (Still, the galactic coordinate system does not really use "galactic west" or east...)  
> **username_4**: @AndersSandberg up, down, hubward, rimward, turnwise, and widdershins :)  
> **username_5**: @username_4 I was told the correct term is "spinward".  
> **username_6**: @username_4 thanks for adding a most entertaining word to my vocabulary!  
> **username_7**: @RobJeffries: No, definitely [turnwise](https://wiki.lspace.org/mediawiki/Turnwise)  
> **username_5**: Turnwise is Pratchett, just like White Dwarves would be Tolkien. Indeed "spinward" is also a fiction term (Larry Niven, I think), but most definitely adopted before Pratchett. international-dictionary.com/definitions/?english_word=spinward  http://www.yourdictionary.com/spinward  
> **username_8**: I think the correct terms are "widdershins" and "anti-widdershins".  Well, if not the correct ones, at least the most entertaining.  
> **username_9**: The traditional complement to widdershins is [deosil](https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/60703/etymological-origin-of-deosil-and-widdershins)  

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