<p>I think its a good question and has probably popped up in the back of many people's minds for milliseconds, both astronomers and lay people, though most of them would still be hesitant to admit it on an internet forum. And of course, our understanding of what is possible or even &quot;normal&quot; in the universe is vanishingly small.</p>
<p><strong>edit 2:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Scientific American: <a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/alien-probe-or-galactic-driftwood-seti-tunes-in-to-oumuamua/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Alien Probe or Galactic Driftwood? SETI Tunes In to 'Oumuamua</a></li>
<li>The Atlantic: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/12/yuri-milner-oumuamua-interstellar-asteroid/547985/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Astronomers to Check Mysterious Interstellar Object for Signs of Technology</a></li>
<li>Breakthrough Initiative: <a href="http://breakthroughinitiatives.org/news/14" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Breakthrough Listen to Observe Interstellar Object 'Oumuamua'</a></li>
</ul>
<p>From the NPR news item <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/12/570167473/astronomers-want-to-know-does-this-interstellar-visitor-have-a-message-for-us" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Astronomers Want To Know: Does This Interstellar Visitor Have A Message For Us?</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>&quot;Researchers working on long-distance space transportation have previously suggested that a cigar or needle shape is the most likely architecture for an interstellar spacecraft, since this would minimize friction and damage from interstellar gas and dust,&quot; the group said in its <a href="http://breakthroughinitiatives.org/news/14" rel="nofollow noreferrer">announcement</a>.</p>
<p>&quot;While a natural origin is more likely, there is currently no consensus on what that origin might have been, and Breakthrough Listen is well positioned to explore the possibility that 'Oumuamua could be an artifact.&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;The possibility that this object is, in fact, an artificial object — that it is a spaceship, essentially — is a remote possibility,&quot; Andrew Siemion, a member of the initiative and director of Berkeley's <a href="http://seti.berkeley.edu/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence Research Center</a>, told <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/12/12/is-this-visitor-from-beyond-our-solar-system-an-asteroid-or-a-sign-of-life/?utm_term=.b4e5955fee99" rel="nofollow noreferrer">The Washington Post on Monday</a>.</p>
<p>&quot;We don't want to be sensational in any way, and we are very realistic about the chances this is artificial,&quot; Yuri Milner, the Russian billionaire financing the project, told the <a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/alien-probe-or-galactic-driftwood-seti-tunes-in-to-oumuamua/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Scientific American</a>, &quot;but because this is a unique situation we think mankind can afford 10 hours of observing time using the best equipment on the planet to check a low-probability hypothesis.&quot;</p>
<p>And they'll be checking on that hypothesis by scanning the object for possible artificial transmitters through a radio telescope at West Virginia's Green Bank Observatory.</p>
</blockquote>
<p><strong>edit 1:</strong> A few days after you've asked the question, a similar thought was uttered by the BBC correspondent <a href="https://twitter.com/peaseroland?lang=en" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Roland Pease</a> in the Science in Action episode <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csvrgt#play" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Interstellar Asteroid</a>. Talking with astronomer <a href="https://star.pst.qub.ac.uk/%7Eaf/Alan_Fitzsimmons/About_Me.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Alan Fitzsimmons</a> of Queens University, Belfast (who's image of X was featured in a NASA &quot;<a href="https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap171103.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Astronomy Picture of the Day</a>&quot;), Pease says:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>You say ‘cigar-shaped”, that’s to me “rocket-shaped”. Is there any way you would know that this is an interstellar rocket?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>So it looks like you're in excellent company!</p>
<hr />
<p>The asteroid was discovered and has been observed mostly (if not completely) by it's reflection of radiation from the Sun. The Sun is roughly a blackbody emitter and most of the radiation is in the visible. Because of the dimness of the light even at maximum, there isn't much signal once dispersed spectroscopically.</p>
<p>There is a spectrum published in ArXiv <a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/1710.09977" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Palomar Optical Spectrum of Hyperbolic Near-Earth Object A/2017 U1</a> on 2-Nov-2017 by Joseph R. Masiero though! Despite the low light level (V ~ +21) and expanded size due to poor seeing at low elevation resulting in a signal-to-noise ratio of order unity, the 5 meter Hale telescope (200 inch Mt. Palomar) was used to try to obtain some spectroscopic information. Ten 300-second runs (total of 50 minutes of collection) were used to produce the heavily binned spectrum below. I think those are 1-sigma error bars, so the spectrum doesn't say much more than &quot;slightly red-ish&quot;.</p>
<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/90WMd.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/90WMd.png" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>
<p>See also Ye et al. <a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/1711.02320" rel="nofollow noreferrer">1I/2017 U1 (`Oumuamua) is Hot: Imaging, Spectroscopy and Search of Meteor Activity</a> for further background:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>The moderate spectral gradient of ‘Oumuamua indicates that its surface is devoid of ultrared material that is common on outer solar system objects like KBOs. Various classes of KBOs are typically very red in color, with a
spectral gradient <span class="math-container">$\gtrsim (\text{100 nm})^{-1}$</span>, likely due to the irradiation of organic material resulting from the bombardment of energetic particles (Brunetto et al. 2006). The less reddish color of ‘Oumuamua suggests that the object was either formed close to its original central star, or has lost its ultrared material due to close approach(es) to its original or other stars. It is difficult to say which scenario is more likely due to the chaotic nature of small body dynamics.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>According to Sky and Telescope's <a href="http://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-news/update-on-interstellar-object-oumuamua/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Update on `Oumuamua, Our First Interstellar Object</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>The object had already dimmed to 20th magnitude by the time the Pan-STARRS 1 telescope swept it up, so observers worldwide had to scramble to get major facilities to gather more observations before the one-of-a-kind interloper becomes impossibly faint.</p>
<p>One lucky break came immediately after the MPC's initial announcement. Observer Joe Masiero (Jet Propulsion Laboratory) just happened be in the middle of a run with the 5-m Hale Telescope at Palomar Observatory, and he quickly obtained a spectrum that's reproduced below and explained in more detail here. There's no obvious absorption that would signify the presence of particular compounds or minerals.</p>
<p>But the gentle slope, increasing toward the red (right) end, suggests that `Oumuamua is not a particularly good match to objects in the Kuiper Belt (which tend to be much redder). Instead, it's the kind of spectrum that a rocky surface would exhibit after being &quot;weathered&quot; by long-term exposure to space radiation.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>So I'd say that the answer to your question is &quot;No&quot;, there's very little besides its orbit and light curve and approximate color that has been or probably could have been detected. With more warning, and serious interest, it's possible an observation campaign could have been organized to get more aperture area and time to make a better spectrum, but since S/N only scales as the square root of those, a lot of other observations would have had to have been rescheduled to make it happen.</p>

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`I think its a good question and has probably popped up in the back of many people's minds for milliseconds, both astronomers and lay people, though most of them would still be hesitant to admit it on an internet forum` Thanks for this honesty and your open-mindedness :)
Matthieu Charbonnier
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@MatthieuCharbonnier note the edit! :-)
uhoh
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uhoh
<p>If Oumuamua wasn't an asteroid, could we detect that it is not an asteroid?</p>

<p>Disclaimer: I do NOT suggest that Oumuamua is in fact an alien spacecraft, a giant coffin, or a statue of Weird Al.</p>

<p>Since it apparently has a very unusual shape, if this is something else, with a different material (neither rock nor ice), could we detect that something is unusual?</p>

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"never before seen shape"  We actually do not know it's shape.  The early speculation is that it's unusually long compared to it's other dimensions, but I'm, not sure that a never before seen thing, just not common perhaps.  Whether we could detect something odd depends on what the odd thing was.
StephenG - Help Ukraine
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You've alread seen xkcd 1919, I take it!
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Saying a new object with "different material" means about as much as the infamous Star Trek line "a completely new form of energy" .
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@CarlWitthoft I am not saying a new type of molecules, but a material that usually is not contained in an asteroid
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There has been some preliminary work on a better model for the shape, see [1](https://i.sstatic.net/ACQGH.jpg), [2](https://i.sstatic.net/pAGO6.gif), [3](https://i.sstatic.net/NjdEk.jpg), [4](https://i.sstatic.net/UogKK.jpg), [5](https://i.sstatic.net/Ll1wu.jpg). Currently there is only [speculation](http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Neutronium) on the composition.
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[BadAstronomer says:](http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/so-long-rock-from-an-alien-solar-system-i-mean-that-literally-so-long) "The reason this is interesting has to do with the composition of the object. Some asteroids are metal, and extremely tough. Some are rock, and more brittle. Others are "rubble piles," essentially shattered rock held in place by its own gravity and weak electrostatic forces. A metal asteroid can spin very rapidly without issue, but try that with a rubble pile and it'll fly apart. So the spin actually tells us something about what it's made of."
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the observation of the comet coincides with an upgrade to algorythms that allow better differentiation from background noise of erratic comets, so hoepfully there will be major work soon to even refine those for catching comets that arrive perpendicular to the solar system.
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Could we detect if Oumuamua asteroid wasn't an asteroid?
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# Could we detect if Oumuamua asteroid wasn't an asteroid?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-11-22)

If Oumuamua wasn't an asteroid, could we detect that it is not an asteroid?

Disclaimer: I do NOT suggest that Oumuamua is in fact an alien spacecraft, a giant coffin, or a statue of Weird Al.

Since it apparently has a very unusual shape, if this is something else, with a different material (neither rock nor ice), could we detect that something is unusual?

**Tags:** asteroids

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: "never before seen shape"  We actually do not know it's shape.  The early speculation is that it's unusually long compared to it's other dimensions, but I'm, not sure that a never before seen thing, just not common perhaps.  Whether we could detect something odd depends on what the odd thing was.  
> **username_2**: You've alread seen xkcd 1919, I take it!  
> **username_2**: Saying a new object with "different material" means about as much as the infamous Star Trek line "a completely new form of energy" .  
> **username_0**: @CarlWitthoft I am not saying a new type of molecules, but a material that usually is not contained in an asteroid  
> **username_3**: There has been some preliminary work on a better model for the shape, see [1](https://i.sstatic.net/ACQGH.jpg), [2](https://i.sstatic.net/pAGO6.gif), [3](https://i.sstatic.net/NjdEk.jpg), [4](https://i.sstatic.net/UogKK.jpg), [5](https://i.sstatic.net/Ll1wu.jpg). Currently there is only [speculation](http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Neutronium) on the composition.  
> **username_4**: [BadAstronomer says:](http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/so-long-rock-from-an-alien-solar-system-i-mean-that-literally-so-long) "The reason this is interesting has to do with the composition of the object. Some asteroids are metal, and extremely tough. Some are rock, and more brittle. Others are "rubble piles," essentially shattered rock held in place by its own gravity and weak electrostatic forces. A metal asteroid can spin very rapidly without issue, but try that with a rubble pile and it'll fly apart. So the spin actually tells us something about what it's made of."  
> **username_5**: the observation of the comet coincides with an upgrade to algorythms that allow better differentiation from background noise of erratic comets, so hoepfully there will be major work soon to even refine those for catching comets that arrive perpendicular to the solar system.  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_3 on 2017-11-23. Score: 8 | Accepted answer

I think its a good question and has probably popped up in the back of many people's minds for milliseconds, both astronomers and lay people, though most of them would still be hesitant to admit it on an internet forum. And of course, our understanding of what is possible or even "normal" in the universe is vanishingly small.

**edit 2:**

* Scientific American: [Alien Probe or Galactic Driftwood? SETI Tunes In to 'Oumuamua](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/alien-probe-or-galactic-driftwood-seti-tunes-in-to-oumuamua/)
* The Atlantic: [Astronomers to Check Mysterious Interstellar Object for Signs of Technology](https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/12/yuri-milner-oumuamua-interstellar-asteroid/547985/)
* Breakthrough Initiative: [Breakthrough Listen to Observe Interstellar Object 'Oumuamua'](http://breakthroughinitiatives.org/news/14)

From the NPR news item [Astronomers Want To Know: Does This Interstellar Visitor Have A Message For Us?](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/12/570167473/astronomers-want-to-know-does-this-interstellar-visitor-have-a-message-for-us):

> "Researchers working on long-distance space transportation have previously suggested that a cigar or needle shape is the most likely architecture for an interstellar spacecraft, since this would minimize friction and damage from interstellar gas and dust," the group said in its [announcement](http://breakthroughinitiatives.org/news/14).
>
> "While a natural origin is more likely, there is currently no consensus on what that origin might have been, and Breakthrough Listen is well positioned to explore the possibility that 'Oumuamua could be an artifact."
>
> "The possibility that this object is, in fact, an artificial object — that it is a spaceship, essentially — is a remote possibility," Andrew Siemion, a member of the initiative and director of Berkeley's [Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence Research Center](http://seti.berkeley.edu/), told [The Washington Post on Monday](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/12/12/is-this-visitor-from-beyond-our-solar-system-an-asteroid-or-a-sign-of-life/?utm_term=.b4e5955fee99).
>
> "We don't want to be sensational in any way, and we are very realistic about the chances this is artificial," Yuri Milner, the Russian billionaire financing the project, told the [Scientific American](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/alien-probe-or-galactic-driftwood-seti-tunes-in-to-oumuamua/), "but because this is a unique situation we think mankind can afford 10 hours of observing time using the best equipment on the planet to check a low-probability hypothesis."
>
> And they'll be checking on that hypothesis by scanning the object for possible artificial transmitters through a radio telescope at West Virginia's Green Bank Observatory.

**edit 1:** A few days after you've asked the question, a similar thought was uttered by the BBC correspondent [Roland Pease](https://twitter.com/peaseroland?lang=en) in the Science in Action episode [Interstellar Asteroid](http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csvrgt#play). Talking with astronomer [Alan Fitzsimmons](https://star.pst.qub.ac.uk/%7Eaf/Alan_Fitzsimmons/About_Me.html) of Queens University, Belfast (who's image of X was featured in a NASA "[Astronomy Picture of the Day](https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap171103.html)"), Pease says:

> You say ‘cigar-shaped”, that’s to me “rocket-shaped”. Is there any way you would know that this is an interstellar rocket?

So it looks like you're in excellent company!

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The asteroid was discovered and has been observed mostly (if not completely) by it's reflection of radiation from the Sun. The Sun is roughly a blackbody emitter and most of the radiation is in the visible. Because of the dimness of the light even at maximum, there isn't much signal once dispersed spectroscopically.

There is a spectrum published in ArXiv [Palomar Optical Spectrum of Hyperbolic Near-Earth Object A/2017 U1](https://arxiv.org/abs/1710.09977) on 2-Nov-2017 by Joseph R. Masiero though! Despite the low light level (V ~ +21) and expanded size due to poor seeing at low elevation resulting in a signal-to-noise ratio of order unity, the 5 meter Hale telescope (200 inch Mt. Palomar) was used to try to obtain some spectroscopic information. Ten 300-second runs (total of 50 minutes of collection) were used to produce the heavily binned spectrum below. I think those are 1-sigma error bars, so the spectrum doesn't say much more than "slightly red-ish".

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/90WMd.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/90WMd.png)

See also Ye et al. [1I/2017 U1 (`Oumuamua) is Hot: Imaging, Spectroscopy and Search of Meteor Activity](https://arxiv.org/abs/1711.02320) for further background:

> The moderate spectral gradient of ‘Oumuamua indicates that its surface is devoid of ultrared material that is common on outer solar system objects like KBOs. Various classes of KBOs are typically very red in color, with a
> spectral gradient $\gtrsim (\text{100 nm})^{-1}$, likely due to the irradiation of organic material resulting from the bombardment of energetic particles (Brunetto et al. 2006). The less reddish color of ‘Oumuamua suggests that the object was either formed close to its original central star, or has lost its ultrared material due to close approach(es) to its original or other stars. It is difficult to say which scenario is more likely due to the chaotic nature of small body dynamics.

According to Sky and Telescope's [Update on `Oumuamua, Our First Interstellar Object](http://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-news/update-on-interstellar-object-oumuamua/):

> The object had already dimmed to 20th magnitude by the time the Pan-STARRS 1 telescope swept it up, so observers worldwide had to scramble to get major facilities to gather more observations before the one-of-a-kind interloper becomes impossibly faint.
>
> One lucky break came immediately after the MPC's initial announcement. Observer Joe Masiero (Jet Propulsion Laboratory) just happened be in the middle of a run with the 5-m Hale Telescope at Palomar Observatory, and he quickly obtained a spectrum that's reproduced below and explained in more detail here. There's no obvious absorption that would signify the presence of particular compounds or minerals.
>
> But the gentle slope, increasing toward the red (right) end, suggests that `Oumuamua is not a particularly good match to objects in the Kuiper Belt (which tend to be much redder). Instead, it's the kind of spectrum that a rocky surface would exhibit after being "weathered" by long-term exposure to space radiation.

So I'd say that the answer to your question is "No", there's very little besides its orbit and light curve and approximate color that has been or probably could have been detected. With more warning, and serious interest, it's possible an observation campaign could have been organized to get more aperture area and time to make a better spectrum, but since S/N only scales as the square root of those, a lot of other observations would have had to have been rescheduled to make it happen.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: `I think its a good question and has probably popped up in the back of many people's minds for milliseconds, both astronomers and lay people, though most of them would still be hesitant to admit it on an internet forum` Thanks for this honesty and your open-mindedness :)  
> **username_3**: @MatthieuCharbonnier note the edit! :-)  

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