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  <p>Where can I see - or even download - a fairly high resolution (~0.1 nm) solar spectrum at zero air mass - in other words from space without absorption and other features from the Earth's atmosphere?</p>
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<p>You can download a normalized solar spectrum with 0.1 nm resolution from <a href="http://bass2000.obspm.fr/solar_spect.php" rel="nofollow">here</a>. However this is not at zero airmass.</p>

<p>A solar spectrum with zero airmass can be found on <a href="http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/spectra/am0/" rel="nofollow">this website</a> with the direct link to their data in an excel sheet <a href="http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/spectra/am0/E490_00a_AM0.xls" rel="nofollow">here</a>. This spectrum appears to be at a 1 nm resolution.</p>

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  <p>Of particular interest is the near infrared around 750-780nm. Is the "A" Fraunhofer line due to absorption by oxygen in the Sun's atmosphere, or in Earth's?</p>
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<p>If you look up the Fraunhofer A line (really it's a "band"), you'll see it is caused by molecular oxygen, namely $\mathrm{O_2}$. This should tell you right away that it is caused by our atmosphere as molecules do not easily exist in the atmosphere of the Sun. In our Sun's atmosphere, most species are ionized forms of single atoms such as $\mathrm{O\:IV}$.</p>

<p>In Astronomy, spectral lines which are caused by the Earth's atmosphere and <em>not</em> by the source object being observed, are referred to as Telluric lines (from the latin word tellus meaning Earth). I found <a href="http://webusers.oact.inaf.it/gca/papers/telluric.pdf" rel="nofollow">this source</a> which describes, in detail, the various telluric lines that you may encounter.</p>

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This is one of those answers that keeps on ticking, I've come back to use this information again, thanks!
uhoh
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2016-08-24T13:51:07.303Z
Well it didn't *tell me* right away, but that's just me. :-) Thank you for the great links and explanations! This is exactly what I needed. Wow!  I was wondering what Tellurium was doing in the sun, but your explanation cleared that up as well.
uhoh
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2016-08-24T14:12:19.683Z
@uhoh I didn't mean to suggest that you should have known, simply that you can know based on the fact that the A line is caused by a molecule. But now at least you'll know for the future.
zephyr
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2016-08-24T14:23:59.163Z
Actually, some of the absorption lines in the solar spectrum *are* from molecules (e.g., CN, CO, OH), though these are mostly in the IR and in cooler regions like sunspots. But you're certainly correct about O_2.
Peter Erwin
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2016-08-24T14:25:18.057Z
Oh I understand - I was trying to be cute. I have to remember that humor in ASCII in an international setting doesn't always work. I once used "so-and-so is asking for the Moon" meaning asking for too much, but of course in Astronomy SE that one's got a high probability of missing its mark. Thank you again for a great answer!
uhoh
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@PeterErwin Yes, that is true. I suppose it was bad to say such a blanket statement that no molecules exist in the Sun.
zephyr
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zephyr
<p><strong>Question:</strong> Where can I see - or even download - a fairly high resolution (~0.1 nm) solar spectrum at zero air mass - in other words from space without absorption and other features from the Earth's atmosphere? Of particular interest is the near infrared around 750-780nm. Is the &quot;A&quot; Fraunhofer line due to absorption by oxygen in the Sun's atmosphere, or in Earth's?</p>
<p>The background discussion below shows some examples, but these are not directly from scientific sources and I have a hunch they are from observations on Earth's surface below the atmosphere.</p>
<p><strong>Background:</strong></p>
<p>Studies of photosynthesis on Earth using spectrometers in satellites measure solar flux induced fluorescence from foliage during the day, taking advantage of certain bands in the solar spectrum that are relatively &quot;dark&quot;. <a href="http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/seeing-photosynthesis-from-space-nasa-scientists-use-satellites-to-measure-plant-health" rel="nofollow noreferrer">GOME-2</a></p>
<p>For example, the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraunhofer_lines#Discovery" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Fraunhofer line</a> labeled &quot;A&quot; below is produced by absorption by oxygen, but it is not clear to me if it is the oxygen in the Suns atmosphere or the Earth's atmosphere that's producing this line.</p>
<p>The images below are spectra of sunlight with various instruments of widely different resolutions, and because the absorption is narrow, the apparent depth is a function of resolution rather than reality.</p>
<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/atWQl.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/atWQl.png" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>
<p><strong>above:</strong> a low resolution spectrum <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Spectrum_of_blue_sky.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer">from here</a></p>
<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/wqWwe.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/wqWwe.jpg" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>
<p><strong>above:</strong> An spectrogram of the Sun <a href="https://noirlab.edu/public/images/noao-sun/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">from this NOAO website</a> (N.A.Sharp, NOAO/NSO/Kitt Peak FTS/AURA/NSF) with the &quot;A&quot; line near 760nm appearing near the top, a little right of center. The original data is from the &quot;Fourier Transform Spectrometer at the McMath-Pierce Solar Facility at the National Solar Observatory on Kitt Peak, near Tucson, Arizona&quot; but seems to be formatted and colorized to look like an Echelle spectrogram.</p>
<p>A video describing the use of the dark band for Earth science can be seen at <div class="youtube-embed"><div>
                <iframe width="640px" height="395px" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/1XilneV3cJI?start=0"></iframe>
            </div></div>.</p>

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@AcK thanks for the updated links!
uhoh
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If the line near the top, right of centre is the one you were interested in, it's H alpha. Since $n\lambda$ is a constant in an echellogram, where $n$ is order, the sodium D- lines are in order $n$, the H alpha line is in $n-11$. So $589n = 656(n-11)$ gives $n \simeq 108$. So 760nm would be in order 84, so 24 rows above the D-lines and not included in the picture.
ProfRob
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@ProfRob OK yes  I understand how $n \lambda$ for the center of each band is a constant. And I can now spot the sodium D lines and see why 760 nm shouldn't be visible if this were a real echellogram. The discussion of 760 nm was simply background to illustrate the idea that an absorption line might come from either atmosphere, back in 2016 when I was learning how to ask SE questions. It turns out this is an FT spectrum *formatted to look like an echellogram.*
uhoh
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@ProfRob I've mentioned that in the question, but with the new link to the same image that user AcK has added, this is an excerpt from the caption on the new page "...created from a digital atlas observed with the Fourier Transform Spectrometer at the McMath-Pierce Solar Facility at the National Solar Observatory on Kitt Peak... Each of the 50 slices covers 60 angstroms, for a complete spectrum across the visual range from 4000 to 7000 angstroms... Note: NSO/Kitt Peak FTS data used here were produced by NSF/NOAO." So the 11 slices ~ 66 nm still checks out.
uhoh
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How deep is the "A" Fraunhofer line in the solar spectrum? Is it from the Sun's or Earth's atmosphere?
uhoh
# How deep is the "A" Fraunhofer line in the solar spectrum? Is it from the Sun's or Earth's atmosphere?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2016-08-24)

**Question:** Where can I see - or even download - a fairly high resolution (~0.1 nm) solar spectrum at zero air mass - in other words from space without absorption and other features from the Earth's atmosphere? Of particular interest is the near infrared around 750-780nm. Is the "A" Fraunhofer line due to absorption by oxygen in the Sun's atmosphere, or in Earth's?

The background discussion below shows some examples, but these are not directly from scientific sources and I have a hunch they are from observations on Earth's surface below the atmosphere.

**Background:**

Studies of photosynthesis on Earth using spectrometers in satellites measure solar flux induced fluorescence from foliage during the day, taking advantage of certain bands in the solar spectrum that are relatively "dark". [GOME-2](http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/seeing-photosynthesis-from-space-nasa-scientists-use-satellites-to-measure-plant-health)

For example, the [Fraunhofer line](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraunhofer_lines#Discovery) labeled "A" below is produced by absorption by oxygen, but it is not clear to me if it is the oxygen in the Suns atmosphere or the Earth's atmosphere that's producing this line.

The images below are spectra of sunlight with various instruments of widely different resolutions, and because the absorption is narrow, the apparent depth is a function of resolution rather than reality.

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/atWQl.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/atWQl.png)

**above:** a low resolution spectrum [from here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Spectrum_of_blue_sky.png)

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/wqWwe.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/wqWwe.jpg)

**above:** An spectrogram of the Sun [from this NOAO website](https://noirlab.edu/public/images/noao-sun/) (N.A.Sharp, NOAO/NSO/Kitt Peak FTS/AURA/NSF) with the "A" line near 760nm appearing near the top, a little right of center. The original data is from the "Fourier Transform Spectrometer at the McMath-Pierce Solar Facility at the National Solar Observatory on Kitt Peak, near Tucson, Arizona" but seems to be formatted and colorized to look like an Echelle spectrogram.

A video describing the use of the dark band for Earth science can be seen at

.

**Tags:** the-sun, spectroscopy, spectra

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: @AcK thanks for the updated links!  
> **username_1**: If the line near the top, right of centre is the one you were interested in, it's H alpha. Since $n\lambda$ is a constant in an echellogram, where $n$ is order, the sodium D- lines are in order $n$, the H alpha line is in $n-11$. So $589n = 656(n-11)$ gives $n \simeq 108$. So 760nm would be in order 84, so 24 rows above the D-lines and not included in the picture.  
> **username_0**: @username_1 OK yes  I understand how $n \lambda$ for the center of each band is a constant. And I can now spot the sodium D lines and see why 760 nm shouldn't be visible if this were a real echellogram. The discussion of 760 nm was simply background to illustrate the idea that an absorption line might come from either atmosphere, back in 2016 when I was learning how to ask SE questions. It turns out this is an FT spectrum *formatted to look like an echellogram.*  
> **username_0**: @username_1 I've mentioned that in the question, but with the new link to the same image that user AcK has added, this is an excerpt from the caption on the new page "...created from a digital atlas observed with the Fourier Transform Spectrometer at the McMath-Pierce Solar Facility at the National Solar Observatory on Kitt Peak... Each of the 50 slices covers 60 angstroms, for a complete spectrum across the visual range from 4000 to 7000 angstroms... Note: NSO/Kitt Peak FTS data used here were produced by NSF/NOAO." So the 11 slices ~ 66 nm still checks out.  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2016-08-24. Score: 5 | Accepted answer

> Where can I see - or even download - a fairly high resolution (~0.1 nm) solar spectrum at zero air mass - in other words from space without absorption and other features from the Earth's atmosphere?

You can download a normalized solar spectrum with 0.1 nm resolution from [here](http://bass2000.obspm.fr/solar_spect.php). However this is not at zero airmass.

A solar spectrum with zero airmass can be found on [this website](http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/spectra/am0/) with the direct link to their data in an excel sheet [here](http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/spectra/am0/E490_00a_AM0.xls). This spectrum appears to be at a 1 nm resolution.

> Of particular interest is the near infrared around 750-780nm. Is the "A" Fraunhofer line due to absorption by oxygen in the Sun's atmosphere, or in Earth's?

If you look up the Fraunhofer A line (really it's a "band"), you'll see it is caused by molecular oxygen, namely $\mathrm{O\_2}$. This should tell you right away that it is caused by our atmosphere as molecules do not easily exist in the atmosphere of the Sun. In our Sun's atmosphere, most species are ionized forms of single atoms such as $\mathrm{O\:IV}$.

In Astronomy, spectral lines which are caused by the Earth's atmosphere and *not* by the source object being observed, are referred to as Telluric lines (from the latin word tellus meaning Earth). I found [this source](http://webusers.oact.inaf.it/gca/papers/telluric.pdf) which describes, in detail, the various telluric lines that you may encounter.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Well it didn't *tell me* right away, but that's just me. :-) Thank you for the great links and explanations! This is exactly what I needed. Wow!  I was wondering what Tellurium was doing in the sun, but your explanation cleared that up as well.  
> **username_2**: @username_0 I didn't mean to suggest that you should have known, simply that you can know based on the fact that the A line is caused by a molecule. But now at least you'll know for the future.  
> **username_3**: Actually, some of the absorption lines in the solar spectrum *are* from molecules (e.g., CN, CO, OH), though these are mostly in the IR and in cooler regions like sunspots. But you're certainly correct about O_2.  
> **username_0**: Oh I understand - I was trying to be cute. I have to remember that humor in ASCII in an international setting doesn't always work. I once used "so-and-so is asking for the Moon" meaning asking for too much, but of course in Astronomy SE that one's got a high probability of missing its mark. Thank you again for a great answer!  
> **username_2**: @username_3 Yes, that is true. I suppose it was bad to say such a blanket statement that no molecules exist in the Sun.  
> **username_0**: This is one of those answers that keeps on ticking, I've come back to use this information again, thanks!  

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