<blockquote>
<p>Are the planets in the TRAPPIST-1 system so close that inhabitants on one planet could see surface details on the other planets?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Yes!</p>
<blockquote>
<p>How big would each planet appear from each of the other planets during conjunction or opposition? Bigger than Earth's moon?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>For some combinations, definitely!</p>
<p>Here's a diagram of the size of each of the planets as seen from each of the other planets. I've taken the semi-major axes and planet radii from a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRAPPIST-1#Planetary_system_data_charts" rel="noreferrer">table in Wikipedia</a> and used the Python script below to show the apparent sizes at conjunction or opposition. The axes are labeled in degrees and the largest case is 1.28 degrees or 2.5 times the apparent size of the Moon from Earth!</p>
<pre><code>   a (Gm)        R (km)
b:  1.73          7150
c:  2.37          6984
d:  3.33          5000
e:  4.38          5804
f:  5.76          6671
g:  7.01          7322
h:  9.27          4930
</code></pre>
<p>For example, the top row shows the largest possible size of planets c through h from planet b. The black dots indicate the planet with itself.</p>
<p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/5CGCM.png" alt="enter image description here" /></p>
<pre><code>import numpy as np
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt

data = (('b', 1.73, 7150), ('c', 2.37, 6984), ('d', 3.33, 5000),
        ('e', 4.38, 5804), ('f', 5.76, 6671), ('g', 7.01, 7322),
        ('h', 9.27, 4930)) # https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRAPPIST-1#Planetary_system_data_charts

class Planet(object):
    def __init__(self, name, a_Gm, r_km):
        self.name = name
        self.a    = 1E+09 * a_Gm
        self.r    = 1E+03 * r_km

halfpi, degs = 0.5*np.pi, 180/np.pi

planets = []
for thing in data:
    planets.append(Planet(*thing))

arc      = np.vstack([f(np.linspace(halfpi, -halfpi, 201)) for f in (np.cos, np.sin)])
f        = np.array([-1.0, 1.0])[:, None]
c        = np.array([+0.8, 1.0])[:, None]
full     = np.hstack((arc, f*arc[:, -2::-1]))
crescent = np.hstack((arc, c*arc[:, -2::-1]))

all_sizes = []
for p in planets:
    p.arcs = []
    for pp in planets:
        if pp == p:
            p.arcs.append(None)
        else:
            size = 2*pp.r/(pp.a-p.a)
            all_sizes.append(abs(size))
            if size &gt; 0:
                p.arcs.append(size*full)
            else:
                p.arcs.append(size*crescent)

max_size = max(all_sizes)
print('max_size: ', max_size)

if True:
    plt.figure()
    for (i, p) in enumerate(planets):
        y0 = -max_size * degs * i
        for (j, arc) in enumerate(p.arcs):
            x0 = max_size * degs * j
            if type(arc) is type(None):
                plt.plot([x0], [y0], 'ok', markersize=6)
            else:
                x, y = degs*arc
                plt.plot(x+x0, y+y0)
    plt.gca().set_aspect('equal')
    plt.show()
</code></pre>

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2021-04-21T01:51:02.163Z
So they would be giant tides and volcanos and earthquakes on an annual basis. Perhaps alien life can use a planet in lieu of a moon to power its magnetosphere.
bandybabboon
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2021-04-21T04:30:21.417Z
The Sun and the Moon are the same apparent size from Earth, but the moon's tides are much stronger because it's closer. So these planets would probably have tidal influences weaker than our moon but comparable.
Kristoffer Sjöö
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2019-08-28T10:14:15.177Z
2021-04-21T01:17:08.660Z
2021-04-21T01:17:08.660Z
uhoh
<p>In a discussion below the Space Exploration question <a href="https://space.stackexchange.com/q/38397/12102">Are there any to-scale diagrams of the TRAPPIST-1 system</a> I was invited to ask a question like this, so I have.</p>

<p><strong>Question:</strong> Are the planets in the TRAPPIST-1 system so close that inhabitants on one planet could see surface details on the other planets? How big would each planet appear from each of the other planets during conjunction or opposition? Bigger than Earth's moon?</p>

<exoplanet><trappist-1><visualization>
Are the planets in the TRAPPIST-1 system so close that inhabitants on one planet could see surface details on the other planets?
uhoh
# Are the planets in the TRAPPIST-1 system so close that inhabitants on one planet could see surface details on the other planets?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2019-08-28)

In a discussion below the Space Exploration question [Are there any to-scale diagrams of the TRAPPIST-1 system](https://space.stackexchange.com/q/38397/12102) I was invited to ask a question like this, so I have.

**Question:** Are the planets in the TRAPPIST-1 system so close that inhabitants on one planet could see surface details on the other planets? How big would each planet appear from each of the other planets during conjunction or opposition? Bigger than Earth's moon?

**Tags:** exoplanet, trappist-1, visualization


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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_0 on 2019-08-28. Score: 8 | Accepted answer

> Are the planets in the TRAPPIST-1 system so close that inhabitants on one planet could see surface details on the other planets?

Yes!

> How big would each planet appear from each of the other planets during conjunction or opposition? Bigger than Earth's moon?

For some combinations, definitely!

Here's a diagram of the size of each of the planets as seen from each of the other planets. I've taken the semi-major axes and planet radii from a [table in Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRAPPIST-1#Planetary_system_data_charts) and used the Python script below to show the apparent sizes at conjunction or opposition. The axes are labeled in degrees and the largest case is 1.28 degrees or 2.5 times the apparent size of the Moon from Earth!

```
   a (Gm)        R (km)
b:  1.73          7150
c:  2.37          6984
d:  3.33          5000
e:  4.38          5804
f:  5.76          6671
g:  7.01          7322
h:  9.27          4930

```

For example, the top row shows the largest possible size of planets c through h from planet b. The black dots indicate the planet with itself.

![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/5CGCM.png)

```
import numpy as np
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt

data = (('b', 1.73, 7150), ('c', 2.37, 6984), ('d', 3.33, 5000),
        ('e', 4.38, 5804), ('f', 5.76, 6671), ('g', 7.01, 7322),
        ('h', 9.27, 4930)) # https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRAPPIST-1#Planetary_system_data_charts

class Planet(object):
    def __init__(self, name, a_Gm, r_km):
        self.name = name
        self.a    = 1E+09 * a_Gm
        self.r    = 1E+03 * r_km

halfpi, degs = 0.5*np.pi, 180/np.pi

planets = []
for thing in data:
    planets.append(Planet(*thing))

arc      = np.vstack([f(np.linspace(halfpi, -halfpi, 201)) for f in (np.cos, np.sin)])
f        = np.array([-1.0, 1.0])[:, None]
c        = np.array([+0.8, 1.0])[:, None]
full     = np.hstack((arc, f*arc[:, -2::-1]))
crescent = np.hstack((arc, c*arc[:, -2::-1]))

all_sizes = []
for p in planets:
    p.arcs = []
    for pp in planets:
        if pp == p:
            p.arcs.append(None)
        else:
            size = 2*pp.r/(pp.a-p.a)
            all_sizes.append(abs(size))
            if size > 0:
                p.arcs.append(size*full)
            else:
                p.arcs.append(size*crescent)

max_size = max(all_sizes)
print('max_size: ', max_size)

if True:
    plt.figure()
    for (i, p) in enumerate(planets):
        y0 = -max_size * degs * i
        for (j, arc) in enumerate(p.arcs):
            x0 = max_size * degs * j
            if type(arc) is type(None):
                plt.plot([x0], [y0], 'ok', markersize=6)
            else:
                x, y = degs*arc
                plt.plot(x+x0, y+y0)
    plt.gca().set_aspect('equal')
    plt.show()

```

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: So they would be giant tides and volcanos and earthquakes on an annual basis. Perhaps alien life can use a planet in lieu of a moon to power its magnetosphere.  
> **username_2**: The Sun and the Moon are the same apparent size from Earth, but the moon's tides are much stronger because it's closer. So these planets would probably have tidal influences weaker than our moon but comparable.  

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