<p>The first step for most of these projects is to make the old data available. Just about all of the old data is on photographic plates, so there are projects at many of the great observatories to scan their archives.</p>

<p>A good example is the <a href="http://tdc-www.harvard.edu/plates/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">project at Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory</a> (located at Harvard) to digitize the entire plate collection, ranging from ultra-early photographs to sky surveys that Harvard Observatory did during a large part of the 1900s. The plates are scanned, and they are matched with star atlases to determine their exact coordinates and their limiting magnitude and the filters used, if any. </p>

<p>This data -- and lots more from all over, including the epochal Palomar Sky Survey -- is available (or soon will be) using special software such as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldWide_Telescope" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Microsoft's Worldwide Telescope</a>.</p>

<p>So the old data is being collected and curated and being made available to everyone.</p>

<p>(Note that the old data, being photographic, is limited in how deep they go, so many objects are simply not visible in them, including most minor planets.)</p>

<p>And <em>lots</em> of projects make use of it.  The ones I'm familiar with tend to use the data to look for prediscovery images or to extend light curves into the past.</p>

<p>New surveys like the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Synoptic_Survey_Telescope" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Large Synoptic Telescope</a> will generate cubic shittons of data and are being <em>deliberately</em> designed to separate the collection of data from the use -- it'll collect deep full-sky images every few days and then people will mine that data for things that the people who planned the survey hadn't thought of.  It will revolutionize astronomy.  Key point: All this old data is sure to be made available in the same way and the very bright people developing ways to find interesting stuff in the LSST will also find good stuff in old photographic plates from the 20s.</p>

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That's interesting- I tried to award you some marks but can't yet. Have you any examples of where this has borne fruit? So, prediscovery is the term to describe the pluto thing. Ta!
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<p>I seem to remember a TV science programme which re-examined the slides that led to the discovery of Pluto and then took a fresh look at earlier slides taken of the space which Pluto was passing through. These slides did indeed feature Pluto but were probably not part of Lowell’s search for the planet. Maybe the old data/images(if still on record) could be revisited with the advantage of later discoveries to reveal things of interest like say orphan planets?</p>

<p>Recently there was this case:-</p>

<p><a href="https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/234037-astronomers-observed-a-nova-explosion-for-the-first-time-by-accident" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/234037-astronomers-observed-a-nova-explosion-for-the-first-time-by-accident</a></p>

<p>Which inadvertently did this but are there any programmes/projects retrospectively doing this intentionally?’</p>

<p>So, it is the systematic review of past observations in the hope of finding things that may have been missed or even unknown at the time.</p>

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# The systematic review of past observations in the hope of finding things that may have been missed

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-08-03)

I seem to remember a TV science programme which re-examined the slides that led to the discovery of Pluto and then took a fresh look at earlier slides taken of the space which Pluto was passing through. These slides did indeed feature Pluto but were probably not part of Lowell’s search for the planet. Maybe the old data/images(if still on record) could be revisited with the advantage of later discoveries to reveal things of interest like say orphan planets?

Recently there was this case:-

<https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/234037-astronomers-observed-a-nova-explosion-for-the-first-time-by-accident>

Which inadvertently did this but are there any programmes/projects retrospectively doing this intentionally?’

So, it is the systematic review of past observations in the hope of finding things that may have been missed or even unknown at the time.

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### Answer by username_1 on 2018-08-03. Score: 3

The first step for most of these projects is to make the old data available. Just about all of the old data is on photographic plates, so there are projects at many of the great observatories to scan their archives.

A good example is the [project at Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory](http://tdc-www.harvard.edu/plates/) (located at Harvard) to digitize the entire plate collection, ranging from ultra-early photographs to sky surveys that Harvard Observatory did during a large part of the 1900s. The plates are scanned, and they are matched with star atlases to determine their exact coordinates and their limiting magnitude and the filters used, if any.

This data -- and lots more from all over, including the epochal Palomar Sky Survey -- is available (or soon will be) using special software such as [Microsoft's Worldwide Telescope](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldWide_Telescope).

So the old data is being collected and curated and being made available to everyone.

(Note that the old data, being photographic, is limited in how deep they go, so many objects are simply not visible in them, including most minor planets.)

And *lots* of projects make use of it. The ones I'm familiar with tend to use the data to look for prediscovery images or to extend light curves into the past.

New surveys like the [Large Synoptic Telescope](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Synoptic_Survey_Telescope) will generate cubic shittons of data and are being *deliberately* designed to separate the collection of data from the use -- it'll collect deep full-sky images every few days and then people will mine that data for things that the people who planned the survey hadn't thought of. It will revolutionize astronomy. Key point: All this old data is sure to be made available in the same way and the very bright people developing ways to find interesting stuff in the LSST will also find good stuff in old photographic plates from the 20s.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: That's interesting- I tried to award you some marks but can't yet. Have you any examples of where this has borne fruit? So, prediscovery is the term to describe the pluto thing. Ta!  

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