<p>There's no limit defined by orbital mechanics.  Newton's law of gravitation allows for any perihelion that isn't actually inside the sun.</p>
<p>The Parker Solar probe is in a stable orbit (discounting planned interactions with Venus) with a perhelion of 6.2 million km (at a temperature of 1400⁰C)  But there is no reason that an object couldn't go closer. There is an asteroid 2006HC4 with a perihelion of just 10.2 million km. Its aphelion is beyond the orbit of Mars</p>
<p>Gravitational effects are not the only consideration for stability. E.g. the Yarkovsky effect will tend to deplete the vulcanoid region (Vokrouhlický et al. 2000), YORP effect can spin up asteroids to breakup velocity, radiation pressure removes dust.</p>
<p>However getting into such an orbit is difficult.  If you are a main-belt asteroid, you would need a huge push to get you into a sungrazing orbit.  Comets from the Oort cloud don't need so much of change in velocity (as they are already moving slowly) and so most bodies that we see falling close to the sun are made largely of ice, and are disrupted by the sun's heat.</p>

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I'll include that,  The unstated aspect of the question is "stable on what timeframe"  There is a great difference between being stable of 10 years and being stable over 10 million years.
James K
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what about roche boundaries?
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<p>I don't have an exact answer, too many factors are involved.
If we consider Newtonian orbits, you can have a stable orbit as long as the perihelion is outside the Sun.
But by getting closer to the Sun, two other effects start playing a role: tidal interactions and general relativity.
I'm not an expert in general relativity, but I know that Mercury is already close enough to the Sun to have its orbit affected by general relativity effects.
As a matter of fact, the orbit of Mercury helped scientists to prove that general relativity works.
On the other hand, tidal interactions cause the orbit to circularize and therefore the orbit is not stable by definition.</p>

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<p>What is the closest perihelion an asteroid in stable orbit could have? Is there a limit defined by orbital mechanics or could an object be in stable orbit, only too close that melting or sublimation would prevent the object from surviving?</p>

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Closest stable orbit about the sun of an asteroid?
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# Closest stable orbit about the sun of an asteroid?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2020-07-20)

What is the closest perihelion an asteroid in stable orbit could have? Is there a limit defined by orbital mechanics or could an object be in stable orbit, only too close that melting or sublimation would prevent the object from surviving?

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2020-07-20. Score: 7

There's no limit defined by orbital mechanics. Newton's law of gravitation allows for any perihelion that isn't actually inside the sun.

The Parker Solar probe is in a stable orbit (discounting planned interactions with Venus) with a perhelion of 6.2 million km (at a temperature of 1400⁰C) But there is no reason that an object couldn't go closer. There is an asteroid 2006HC4 with a perihelion of just 10.2 million km. Its aphelion is beyond the orbit of Mars

Gravitational effects are not the only consideration for stability. E.g. the Yarkovsky effect will tend to deplete the vulcanoid region (Vokrouhlický et al. 2000), YORP effect can spin up asteroids to breakup velocity, radiation pressure removes dust.

However getting into such an orbit is difficult. If you are a main-belt asteroid, you would need a huge push to get you into a sungrazing orbit. Comets from the Oort cloud don't need so much of change in velocity (as they are already moving slowly) and so most bodies that we see falling close to the sun are made largely of ice, and are disrupted by the sun's heat.

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: I'll include that,  The unstated aspect of the question is "stable on what timeframe"  There is a great difference between being stable of 10 years and being stable over 10 million years.  
> **username_2**: what about roche boundaries?  

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### Answer by username_3 on 2021-04-26. Score: 2

I don't have an exact answer, too many factors are involved.
If we consider Newtonian orbits, you can have a stable orbit as long as the perihelion is outside the Sun.
But by getting closer to the Sun, two other effects start playing a role: tidal interactions and general relativity.
I'm not an expert in general relativity, but I know that Mercury is already close enough to the Sun to have its orbit affected by general relativity effects.
As a matter of fact, the orbit of Mercury helped scientists to prove that general relativity works.
On the other hand, tidal interactions cause the orbit to circularize and therefore the orbit is not stable by definition.


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