<p>We detect black holes mostly by their effects on nearby matter. The "radial velocity" method is important after x-ray observations suggest a likely black-hole.</p>

<p>Matter in orbit around a black hole can form an accretion disc. This disc will become very hot, and glow brightly in X-ray radiation. If we see X-ray radiation coming from a star we look at the radial velocity of the star, and use this to infer the mass of the orbiting object. Since a neutron star cannot exist at more than 3 solar masses, if the object is more than that it must be a black hole.</p>

<p>Compared to planets, black holes are rare. Only about 20 candidates are known in the Milky way.</p>

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2016-07-23T05:22:49.970Z
Are they rare for real, or just hard to find? Couldn't the first generation stars in general have been large enough to leave black holes behind, so that there are about as many black holes as there are active stars today?
LocalFluff
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2016-06-22T21:57:59.887Z
2016-06-22T21:57:59.887Z
James K
<p>I know of two methods for finding exoplanets: the transit method and the radial velocity method. These two methods work as follows:</p>

<ol>
<li><p><strong>Transit</strong>: we observe stars and watch for when a planet obstructs the light from the star.</p></li>
<li><p><strong>Radial Velocity</strong>: detecting the planet by observing the motion of the star and using Kepler's law.</p></li>
</ol>

<p>Are these methods also used for discovering black-holes? What are the pros and cons of these methods, I think that the con of transit is that it's difficult to see the black hole. A pro is that it doesn't matter how many stars there are around the black hole.</p>

<p>With the Radial Velocity method, a pro is that it's easy to detect but requires exactly one companion star (I used this <a href="http://www.stronggravity.eu/how-to-measure-black-hole-mass/" rel="nofollow">source</a>).</p>

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2016-03-03T21:57:37.217Z
Ummm. . . These methods are generally used to find *exoplanets*, not black holes. I have yet to hear of them being applied to the latter.
HDE 226868
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2016-03-03T21:58:22.600Z
@HDE226868 but theoretically, what would the pros and and cons be of each method applied to black hole finding?
Apollo
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2016-03-04T18:18:06.023Z
Only the second of these is used to find black holes. There *are* other methods, but black holes are too small to yield a transit signal. Possibly you are thinking of gravitational microlensing.
ProfRob
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2016-03-11T18:40:41.733Z
Edited to reflect these comments.
James K
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Blackhole Finding Techniques
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# Blackhole Finding Techniques

(Asked by: username_0 on 2016-03-03)

I know of two methods for finding exoplanets: the transit method and the radial velocity method. These two methods work as follows:

1. **Transit**: we observe stars and watch for when a planet obstructs the light from the star.
2. **Radial Velocity**: detecting the planet by observing the motion of the star and using Kepler's law.

Are these methods also used for discovering black-holes? What are the pros and cons of these methods, I think that the con of transit is that it's difficult to see the black hole. A pro is that it doesn't matter how many stars there are around the black hole.

With the Radial Velocity method, a pro is that it's easy to detect but requires exactly one companion star (I used this [source](http://www.stronggravity.eu/how-to-measure-black-hole-mass/)).

**Tags:** black-hole, astrophysics, planetary-transits

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Ummm. . . These methods are generally used to find *exoplanets*, not black holes. I have yet to hear of them being applied to the latter.  
> **username_0**: @username_1 but theoretically, what would the pros and and cons be of each method applied to black hole finding?  
> **username_2**: Only the second of these is used to find black holes. There *are* other methods, but black holes are too small to yield a transit signal. Possibly you are thinking of gravitational microlensing.  
> **username_3**: Edited to reflect these comments.  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_3 on 2016-06-22. Score: 1

We detect black holes mostly by their effects on nearby matter. The "radial velocity" method is important after x-ray observations suggest a likely black-hole.

Matter in orbit around a black hole can form an accretion disc. This disc will become very hot, and glow brightly in X-ray radiation. If we see X-ray radiation coming from a star we look at the radial velocity of the star, and use this to infer the mass of the orbiting object. Since a neutron star cannot exist at more than 3 solar masses, if the object is more than that it must be a black hole.

Compared to planets, black holes are rare. Only about 20 candidates are known in the Milky way.

> **Comments:**
> **username_4**: Are they rare for real, or just hard to find? Couldn't the first generation stars in general have been large enough to leave black holes behind, so that there are about as many black holes as there are active stars today?  

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