<p><em>Very</em> cool question. I want to get into a little bit of detail here because otherwise there would be a one-paragraph answer, and I don't think that would cut it. So here goes.</p>

<p>The planets in the solar systems have orbits with pretty low <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_eccentricity#Examples" rel="noreferrer">eccentricities</a> (see <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gravitationally_rounded_objects_of_the_Solar_System" rel="noreferrer">this</a> for more eccentricity values). At the upper end is Mercury, with an eccentricity of 0.2056. At the lower end is Venus, at 0.00677. Earth is in between but moderately low, at 0.0167. The distance between <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perihelion_and_aphelion" rel="noreferrer">perihelion and aphelion</a> is 5 million kilometers - in an orbit with an average radius of about 150 million kilometers. Note, though, that eccentricities are always changing.</p>

<p>We would certainly have "seasons" if there was no axial tilt, but they most likely would not be dramatic. As <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perihelion_and_aphelion" rel="noreferrer">Wikipedia</a> says</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Because of the increased distance at aphelion, only 93.55% of the solar radiation from the Sun falls on a given area of land as does at perihelion. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>But on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season#Elliptical_Earth_orbit" rel="noreferrer">this</a> page, it says</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Orbital eccentricity can influence temperatures, but on Earth, this effect is small and is more than counteracted by other factors; research shows that the Earth as a whole is actually slightly warmer when farther from the sun. This is because the northern hemisphere has more land than the southern, and land warms more readily than sea.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>So more land means that the planet can absorb heat better, which counteracts the change in distance.</p>

<p>But I think that's pretty boring. Don't you? So let's calculate how eccentric Earth's orbit would have to be for it to have seasons without axial tilt. From the chart <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season#Modern_mid-latitude_meteorological" rel="noreferrer">here</a> we can see that the highest average hemispherical temperature is 22 degrees Celsius, while the lowest is 8 degrees Celsius. </p>

<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/2nptu.jpg" rel="noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/2nptu.jpg" alt="enter image description here"></a></p>

<p>What about other planets?</p>

<p>There's a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gravitationally_rounded_objects_of_the_Solar_System#Planets" rel="noreferrer">steady downward trend</a> as we get further away from the Sun (Venus is an exception because of its runaway greenhouse effect). For Earth, the average surface temperature is 287 K (15 degrees C). So our maximum would be 295 K and our minimum would be about 281 K (Kelvin = Celsius + 273). Compare that to the other planets.</p>

<p>I made a graph, which unfortunately I cannot paste here, that shows that to have a surface temperature of 295 K, the planet would have to be - well, not much closer than we are. Relatively, that is. Roughly 0.975 AU from the star. To have a surface temperature of 281 K, it would have to be at 1.05 AU from the star. This neglects, by the way, the different levels of land/sea absorption.</p>

<p>So, actually, if the Earth's orbit had an eccentricity of about 0.35, it could have some moderate seasons.</p>

<p>I hope this helps.</p>

<p>Note: I used <a href="http://www.1728.org/ellipse.htm" rel="noreferrer">this</a> eccentricity calculator for the sake of accuracy and time. I would still be obliged if anyone could check my overall calculations for this answer.</p>

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I added the chart.  I hope you don't mind.   It's worth pointing out that the Southern Hemisphere varies just 4 degrees C to the Northern's 14 degrees.  Much of the land near the Earth's equator doesn't experience seasons and oceans tend to be buffers as water can circulate.   14 degrees by eccentricity would be larger seasonal variation than much of the Earth currently experiences.   Seasonal swings at the equator would be larger, but approaching the polls, quite a bit smaller.    By the chart, the average seasonal temperature variation of the entire earth is about 9 degrees.
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Awesome answer!  Great balance of facts and extrapolation.  Exactly what I was looking for!
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@Nerrolken I'm glad!
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<p>I was reading the answers to <a href="https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/questions/6617/would-an-exoplanet-without-axial-tilt-have-no-seasons">this question</a> about an exoplanet having seasons without axial tilt, and several responders mention that orbital eccentricity could cause a similar effect, but that the orbit would need to be "very eccentric," as opposed to Earth's, which is "very close to circular."</p>

<p>If the Earth had no axial tilt at all, would its eccentricity be high enough to have any discernible effect for the inhabitants?  Even if it didn't cause major shifts in temperature, would it be enough for pre-scientific people to track the passing of years?</p>

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A nice video on how exoplanets might have seasons ala Game of Thrones is below. Of course Game of Thrones has chaotic seasons. But the video implies seasons may come from axial tilt, eccentricity as asked by the question, or from variability of the luminance output of the star. What would seasons be around a Cepheid variable? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JKrn4P4c5ps
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# Is Earth's orbital eccentricity enough to cause even minor seasons, without axial tilt?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2014-10-10)

I was reading the answers to [this question](https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/questions/6617/would-an-exoplanet-without-axial-tilt-have-no-seasons) about an exoplanet having seasons without axial tilt, and several responders mention that orbital eccentricity could cause a similar effect, but that the orbit would need to be "very eccentric," as opposed to Earth's, which is "very close to circular."

If the Earth had no axial tilt at all, would its eccentricity be high enough to have any discernible effect for the inhabitants? Even if it didn't cause major shifts in temperature, would it be enough for pre-scientific people to track the passing of years?

**Tags:** orbit, rotation, weather

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: A nice video on how exoplanets might have seasons ala Game of Thrones is below. Of course Game of Thrones has chaotic seasons. But the video implies seasons may come from axial tilt, eccentricity as asked by the question, or from variability of the luminance output of the star. What would seasons be around a Cepheid variable? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JKrn4P4c5ps  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2014-10-10. Score: 13 | Accepted answer

*Very* cool question. I want to get into a little bit of detail here because otherwise there would be a one-paragraph answer, and I don't think that would cut it. So here goes.

The planets in the solar systems have orbits with pretty low [eccentricities](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_eccentricity#Examples) (see [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gravitationally_rounded_objects_of_the_Solar_System) for more eccentricity values). At the upper end is Mercury, with an eccentricity of 0.2056. At the lower end is Venus, at 0.00677. Earth is in between but moderately low, at 0.0167. The distance between [perihelion and aphelion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perihelion_and_aphelion) is 5 million kilometers - in an orbit with an average radius of about 150 million kilometers. Note, though, that eccentricities are always changing.

We would certainly have "seasons" if there was no axial tilt, but they most likely would not be dramatic. As [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perihelion_and_aphelion) says

> Because of the increased distance at aphelion, only 93.55% of the solar radiation from the Sun falls on a given area of land as does at perihelion.

But on [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season#Elliptical_Earth_orbit) page, it says

> Orbital eccentricity can influence temperatures, but on Earth, this effect is small and is more than counteracted by other factors; research shows that the Earth as a whole is actually slightly warmer when farther from the sun. This is because the northern hemisphere has more land than the southern, and land warms more readily than sea.

So more land means that the planet can absorb heat better, which counteracts the change in distance.

But I think that's pretty boring. Don't you? So let's calculate how eccentric Earth's orbit would have to be for it to have seasons without axial tilt. From the chart [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season#Modern_mid-latitude_meteorological) we can see that the highest average hemispherical temperature is 22 degrees Celsius, while the lowest is 8 degrees Celsius.

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/2nptu.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/2nptu.jpg)

What about other planets?

There's a [steady downward trend](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gravitationally_rounded_objects_of_the_Solar_System#Planets) as we get further away from the Sun (Venus is an exception because of its runaway greenhouse effect). For Earth, the average surface temperature is 287 K (15 degrees C). So our maximum would be 295 K and our minimum would be about 281 K (Kelvin = Celsius + 273). Compare that to the other planets.

I made a graph, which unfortunately I cannot paste here, that shows that to have a surface temperature of 295 K, the planet would have to be - well, not much closer than we are. Relatively, that is. Roughly 0.975 AU from the star. To have a surface temperature of 281 K, it would have to be at 1.05 AU from the star. This neglects, by the way, the different levels of land/sea absorption.

So, actually, if the Earth's orbit had an eccentricity of about 0.35, it could have some moderate seasons.

I hope this helps.

Note: I used [this](http://www.1728.org/ellipse.htm) eccentricity calculator for the sake of accuracy and time. I would still be obliged if anyone could check my overall calculations for this answer.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Awesome answer!  Great balance of facts and extrapolation.  Exactly what I was looking for!  
> **username_2**: @username_0 I'm glad!  
> **username_3**: I added the chart.  I hope you don't mind.   It's worth pointing out that the Southern Hemisphere varies just 4 degrees C to the Northern's 14 degrees.  Much of the land near the Earth's equator doesn't experience seasons and oceans tend to be buffers as water can circulate.   14 degrees by eccentricity would be larger seasonal variation than much of the Earth currently experiences.   Seasonal swings at the equator would be larger, but approaching the polls, quite a bit smaller.    By the chart, the average seasonal temperature variation of the entire earth is about 9 degrees.  

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