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  <p>As far as I know REM is just brain running a simulation </p>
</blockquote>

<p>During sleep hormones and neurotransmitters shift in their quantities available along the phases of sleep: slow wave sleep, intermediate stages and REM ( this happens several times during a typical sleeping session) and each phase brings corresponding highs and lows of the aforementioned chemicals. </p>

<p>There is not a definitive and agreed function of sleep, but currently it is heavily tied to memory consolidation and metabolic regulation as well as a supporting role in the immune system.<sup><strong><em>1</em></strong></sup>  </p>

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  <p>When death from sleep derivation occurs, what mechanism is failing that makes one not to be alive anymore.</p>
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<p>Well, we don't really know,at least in humans it is not something we can really experiment, so most of the accounts are just that, anecdotes.</p>

<p>In order to try to answer the question, we unfortunately have to turn to the animal world, studies of Total Sleep Deprivation (TSD) in rats are perhaps the best researched ones, and yet there is still coinsiderable doubt about what ends up being the cause of death. <sup><strong><em>2</em></strong></sup> and it's relationship to sleep. </p>

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  <p>I mean there has to be some physical thing that breaks down</p>
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<p>To summarize a review/update of the original sleep deprivation study<sup><strong><em>3</em></strong></sup> :</p>

<p>The effects of total sleep deprivation seem to have interfered with thermoregulation,caused a deterioration in the appearance of the rats, skin lesions, and changes in brain activity; infection, hypothermia and malnutrition are the leading suspects then and the thing that broke down in a roundabout way is the supporting mix of chemicals ( neurotransmitters, hormones) &amp; brain activity that normally keep these deadly effects at bay.</p>

<p>Reference/Sources:</p>

<ol>
<li><ul>
<li>A great and accessible introduction to the science of sleep is The Secret World of Sleep (Lewis). - Sleep and Metabolism: <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2929498/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2929498/</a> -Sleep and the immune system: <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12701994/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12701994/</a> - Neuroscience (Purves) has a more technical overview. </li>
</ul></li>
<li><ul>
<li><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2928622" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Sleep deprivation in the rat: III. Total sleep deprivation.</a> In this 1989 study rats were deprived of sleep and died, no direct cause was found.</li>
</ul></li>
<li><ul>
<li><a href="http://www.journalsleep.org/Articles/250104.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Sleep Deprivation in the Rat: An Update of the 1989 Pape</a>r Does a great job in presenting the difficulties of a definitive answer, but does give a general one.</li>
</ul></li>
</ol>

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<p>I have been reading on wiki about sleep deprivation it would appear that one can die without sleep... I have heard that it was used as torture method by quite a few agencies, but didn't know that one could die from it....</p>

<p>As far as I know <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_eye_movement_sleep" rel="noreferrer">REM is just brain running a simulation</a> to improve long term memory by re-firing the neuron paths to make them 'stick' better... </p>

<p>When death from sleep derivation occurs, what mechanism is failing that makes one not to be alive anymore. I mean there has to be some physical thing that breaks down, otherwise one would just loose consciousness and wake up in 40 hours or so...</p>

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While no human being is known to have died from staying awake, animal research strongly suggests it could happen (source: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2009/05/can_you_die_from_lack_of_sleep.html)
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I just found one case where one person died of sleep deprivation caused by a rare, and ultimately terminal, genetically inherited prion disease called Fatal Familial Insomnia. https://www.sleepio.com/articles/sleep-science/how-long-can-you-go-without-sleep/
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@Chris Hi Chris, [FFI is one horrible](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_familial_insomnia) way to go, I think it happens due to tiny holes appearing in your brain due to recessive genetic defect... so it could be argued that holes is the cause of both (insomnia and death)
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Death from sleep deprivation, what physical mechanism is failing that makes one not to be alive anymore?
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# Death from sleep deprivation, what physical mechanism is failing that makes one not to be alive anymore?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2016-12-19)

I have been reading on wiki about sleep deprivation it would appear that one can die without sleep... I have heard that it was used as torture method by quite a few agencies, but didn't know that one could die from it....

As far as I know [REM is just brain running a simulation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_eye_movement_sleep) to improve long term memory by re-firing the neuron paths to make them 'stick' better...

When death from sleep derivation occurs, what mechanism is failing that makes one not to be alive anymore. I mean there has to be some physical thing that breaks down, otherwise one would just loose consciousness and wake up in 40 hours or so...

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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: While no human being is known to have died from staying awake, animal research strongly suggests it could happen (source: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2009/05/can_you_die_from_lack_of_sleep.html)  
> **username_1**: I just found one case where one person died of sleep deprivation caused by a rare, and ultimately terminal, genetically inherited prion disease called Fatal Familial Insomnia. https://www.sleepio.com/articles/sleep-science/how-long-can-you-go-without-sleep/  
> **username_0**: @Chris Hi Chris, [FFI is one horrible](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_familial_insomnia) way to go, I think it happens due to tiny holes appearing in your brain due to recessive genetic defect... so it could be argued that holes is the cause of both (insomnia and death)  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2016-12-20. Score: 6 | Accepted answer

> As far as I know REM is just brain running a simulation

During sleep hormones and neurotransmitters shift in their quantities available along the phases of sleep: slow wave sleep, intermediate stages and REM ( this happens several times during a typical sleeping session) and each phase brings corresponding highs and lows of the aforementioned chemicals.

There is not a definitive and agreed function of sleep, but currently it is heavily tied to memory consolidation and metabolic regulation as well as a supporting role in the immune system.***1***

> When death from sleep derivation occurs, what mechanism is failing that makes one not to be alive anymore.

Well, we don't really know,at least in humans it is not something we can really experiment, so most of the accounts are just that, anecdotes.

In order to try to answer the question, we unfortunately have to turn to the animal world, studies of Total Sleep Deprivation (TSD) in rats are perhaps the best researched ones, and yet there is still coinsiderable doubt about what ends up being the cause of death. ***2*** and it's relationship to sleep.

> I mean there has to be some physical thing that breaks down

To summarize a review/update of the original sleep deprivation study***3*** :

The effects of total sleep deprivation seem to have interfered with thermoregulation,caused a deterioration in the appearance of the rats, skin lesions, and changes in brain activity; infection, hypothermia and malnutrition are the leading suspects then and the thing that broke down in a roundabout way is the supporting mix of chemicals ( neurotransmitters, hormones) & brain activity that normally keep these deadly effects at bay.

Reference/Sources:

1. * A great and accessible introduction to the science of sleep is The Secret World of Sleep (Lewis). - Sleep and Metabolism: <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2929498/> -Sleep and the immune system: <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12701994/> - Neuroscience (Purves) has a more technical overview.
2. * [Sleep deprivation in the rat: III. Total sleep deprivation.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2928622) In this 1989 study rats were deprived of sleep and died, no direct cause was found.
3. * [Sleep Deprivation in the Rat: An Update of the 1989 Pape](http://www.journalsleep.org/Articles/250104.pdf)r Does a great job in presenting the difficulties of a definitive answer, but does give a general one.


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