<p>This question has been unanswered for a long time and I will attempt to address the issues posed not one by one, as there are a great many questions, but with an overall working of the sensory nervous system with respect to topographic mapping. Moreover, the question uses a great many "suppose ifs" that have never, and most likely will never or cannot be tested. Therefore a basic overview of topographical mapping may shed light on the matter.</p>

<p>The somatosensory cortex is a highly <strong>topographically organized</strong> structure. Although warped in size, it basically contains an exact topographical map of the body, referred to as a <em>homunculus</em>:</p>

<p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/dZYVx.jpg" alt="homunculus"><br>
<sup>Source: <a href="http://guardianlv.com/2013/09/sixth-sense-discovered-for-numerosity-using-fmri-scans/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Guardian</a></sup></p>

<p>In other words, perceptions in the upper arm are represented very near to the lower arm representation in the somatosensory cortex. The motor cortex contains a very similar map.</p>

<p>Similarly, the visual cortices contain many maps representing the visual field, referred to as the <strong>retinotopic</strong> map. Likewise, the auditory system maps frequency space in a highly topographical manner (the <strong>tonotopic map</strong>).</p>

<p>Removing a part of the somatosensory cortex out of its context may wreck havoc on this ordered structure. For example, it has been shown by groundbreaking work from Michael Merzenich and colleagues that when the fingers of a monkey are sewn together, the finger representations in the sensory cortex also fuse, i.e., the <strong>border between the coupled fingers degrades</strong> and vanishes eventually. This experiment shows that when two separate bodily structures are repeatedly and structurally stimulated simultaneously, they fuse in the cortex. Upon separation, original mapping is restored (<a href="http://jn.physiology.org/content/66/3/1048.short" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Allard et al., 1991</a>). I consider this proof that <strong>adjacent structures influence each other's representations in the cortex</strong> because they often receive parallel stimulation. Coherent stimuli typically result in increased synaptic strength. </p>

<p><strong>Phantom limbs</strong> are interesting indeed. For example, the groundbreaking work by Ramachandran focused on upper arm amputees. These folks would feel sensations in their (amputated) hand when their cheek was stimulated. In the homunculus it can be readily seen that facial representations are close to the hand representation. Upon deafferentation of the arm region in the cortex, surrounding bodily representations take over the 'silenced' regions, and the cheek region 'steals' the hand (which is relatively huge). However, interestingly, the <strong>cheek not only serves its own original representation</strong>, but <strong>refers now to the amputated hand as well</strong>. Hence, the memory of the hand lingers, showing once again that the bodily map is strongly imprinted in the brain and that it is not simply isolated from its context.    </p>

<p>How then are visual and tactile stimuli fused as being correlated? This happens in the higher multi-sensory areas in the brain, the so-called <em>association cortices</em> such as found in the temporal lobe.</p>

<p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/L43k6.png" alt="enter image description here"><br>
<sup>Source: <a href="http://www.ib.cnea.gov.ar/~redneu/2013/BOOKS/Principles%20of%20Neural%20Science%20-%20Kandel/gateway.ut.ovid.com/gw2/ovidweb.cgisidnjhkoalgmeho00dbookimagebookdb_7c_2fc~24.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Insituto Balseiro</a></sup> </p>

<p>These higher areas will link various perceptions and merge them into coherent perceptions. Limbic association areas may couple the butterflies to love. </p>

<p><strong>Conclusion</strong><br>
In all, qualia are localized in the brain by mapping sensory information onto highly organized topographic maps in the cortex. Changes in the periphery (e.g. amputations) will affect this cortical mapping due to plasticity and hence these cortical maps are plastic (subject to change). The reverse can never be easily tested (taking a piece of brain away will have gross consequences) as said, but I think that the quote "<a href="https://rightmindprograms.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/neurons-that-wire-together-fire-together/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Neurons that wire together fire together</a>" is important here. As said, synaptic strength increases when adjacent neurons fire in coherency and when taken apart their mapping will become distorted. Lastly, emotional feelings are combined with the physical sensation of butterflies in your stomach and synthesized into a holistic feeling of love, probably by the limbic association cortices and perhaps other association areas. in general, the association areas synthesize the various sensory systems by linking them, most likely due to experience.   </p>

<p><sub><strong>Reference</strong><br>
<a href="http://jn.physiology.org/content/66/3/1048.short" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Allard et al., <em>J Neurophysiol</em> 1991;<strong>66</strong>:1048-58</a></sub></p>

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<p>I understand that evolution incorporated arbitrary qualia into the default network to inform consciousness (the largest cranial global processing information subnetwork) about properties and qualities of the body in spacetime. However, how does the feeling in my toe know to appear near my toe when nerves there are stimulated? Is this an illusion, and there is extraneous processing that matches the visual stimulus of me looking at my toe and the tactile stimuli of someone touching it to make those qualia feel related, even localized in the same area in space?</p>

<p>What if my somatosensory cortex was moved to my stomach (say all dendrites and axons were chopped off and were replaced with wireless hubs that signaled to the newly transplanted somatosensory cortex in my stomach). I would presumably experience no change in consciousness, which indicated localization of qualia is not achieved by the spatial embedding of the neurons, but by their graph-theoretic interconnection.</p>

<p>If I swapped the information processing (in some information-theoretic sense, say graph-dynamics) associated to the smell of strawberry (it's much more complicated than that but just go with it for a second) with the brain's processing of thermal information from afferent skin sensors, would I appear to feel the smell of strawberry all over my body when it's cold and the feel of cold in my nose when I smelled strawberry? I am excluding affect swap here so the qualia of strawberry smell now feels unpleasant like cold and the qualia of cold feels pleasant like strawberry smell.</p>

<p>Now what if in mad science I permuted the thermal sensors all over my body? Say my foot and hand neurons got swapped (say through a nanobot intercepting wireless relay). Would my hand feel cold when my foot is immersed in ice and vice versa? This would indicate these qualia are processed in consciousness in the brain rather than at the afferent sensor sites.</p>

<p>For bonus credit: How does this relate to phantom limb syndrome? Are there other observed processing defects that lead to faulty localization? E.g. Out of body experiences, certain particularly nasty mental disorders like dementia, rewiring of somatosensory map due to stroke, that engineering dean who wanted his arm chopped off (I forgot the name but I heard this from V.S. Ramachandran)</p>

<p>Second bonus credit: I've read "butterflies" in your stomach are serotonin releases in the enteric nervous system. Doesn't consciousness have to be informed of this release for you to feel it? If not, how do disconnected information graphs allow you the cohesive ability to feel in love?</p>

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There's quite a few "big" questions here.  I'd recommend breaking them up into separate questions, even though they may be related by a common theme.
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cant say you exactly where because this topic is out of my current reading scope - nevertheless i will quote from stanford ep from first segment of the related article about qualia which is related at least to the location in philosophy: > The status of qualia is hotly debated in philosophy largely because it is central to a proper understanding of the nature of consciousness. Qualia are at the very heart of the mind-body problem.
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There are leading scientists like V.S. Ramachandran stating that understanding consciousness might be possible independently from other phenomenons like qualia http://edge.org/conversation/self-awareness-the-last-frontier. Also many experimental neuroscientist don't care too much about current "theories" (sorry but it is not more than a guessing game currently in this branch) in philosophy of mind...
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http://edge.org/conversation/self-awareness-the-last-frontier Probably the best essay I read on this topic
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I would challenge some of your presumptions.  Brain locality is important for processes like "volume transmission" in which a region of the brain experiences changes.  You're limiting your thinking to "synaptic transmission" which is, in my opinion, a very limited view.  Furthermore, the system self organizes, based on the length of axons so that timing is appropriate.  If you suddenly lengthen the axon, you're going to get a delay in the post-synaptic signal that could mess with parallel signal processing in all kinds of ways.
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How are qualia localized in consciousness?
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# How are qualia localized in consciousness?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2012-12-29)

I understand that evolution incorporated arbitrary qualia into the default network to inform consciousness (the largest cranial global processing information subnetwork) about properties and qualities of the body in spacetime. However, how does the feeling in my toe know to appear near my toe when nerves there are stimulated? Is this an illusion, and there is extraneous processing that matches the visual stimulus of me looking at my toe and the tactile stimuli of someone touching it to make those qualia feel related, even localized in the same area in space?

What if my somatosensory cortex was moved to my stomach (say all dendrites and axons were chopped off and were replaced with wireless hubs that signaled to the newly transplanted somatosensory cortex in my stomach). I would presumably experience no change in consciousness, which indicated localization of qualia is not achieved by the spatial embedding of the neurons, but by their graph-theoretic interconnection.

If I swapped the information processing (in some information-theoretic sense, say graph-dynamics) associated to the smell of strawberry (it's much more complicated than that but just go with it for a second) with the brain's processing of thermal information from afferent skin sensors, would I appear to feel the smell of strawberry all over my body when it's cold and the feel of cold in my nose when I smelled strawberry? I am excluding affect swap here so the qualia of strawberry smell now feels unpleasant like cold and the qualia of cold feels pleasant like strawberry smell.

Now what if in mad science I permuted the thermal sensors all over my body? Say my foot and hand neurons got swapped (say through a nanobot intercepting wireless relay). Would my hand feel cold when my foot is immersed in ice and vice versa? This would indicate these qualia are processed in consciousness in the brain rather than at the afferent sensor sites.

For bonus credit: How does this relate to phantom limb syndrome? Are there other observed processing defects that lead to faulty localization? E.g. Out of body experiences, certain particularly nasty mental disorders like dementia, rewiring of somatosensory map due to stroke, that engineering dean who wanted his arm chopped off (I forgot the name but I heard this from V.S. Ramachandran)

Second bonus credit: I've read "butterflies" in your stomach are serotonin releases in the enteric nervous system. Doesn't consciousness have to be informed of this release for you to feel it? If not, how do disconnected information graphs allow you the cohesive ability to feel in love?

**Tags:** neuroscience, consciousness, qualia

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: There's quite a few "big" questions here.  I'd recommend breaking them up into separate questions, even though they may be related by a common theme.  
> **username_2**: cant say you exactly where because this topic is out of my current reading scope - nevertheless i will quote from stanford ep from first segment of the related article about qualia which is related at least to the location in philosophy: > The status of qualia is hotly debated in philosophy largely because it is central to a proper understanding of the nature of consciousness. Qualia are at the very heart of the mind-body problem.  
> **username_3**: There are leading scientists like V.S. Ramachandran stating that understanding consciousness might be possible independently from other phenomenons like qualia http://edge.org/conversation/self-awareness-the-last-frontier. Also many experimental neuroscientist don't care too much about current "theories" (sorry but it is not more than a guessing game currently in this branch) in philosophy of mind...  
> **username_3**: http://edge.org/conversation/self-awareness-the-last-frontier Probably the best essay I read on this topic  
> **username_4**: I would challenge some of your presumptions.  Brain locality is important for processes like "volume transmission" in which a region of the brain experiences changes.  You're limiting your thinking to "synaptic transmission" which is, in my opinion, a very limited view.  Furthermore, the system self organizes, based on the length of axons so that timing is appropriate.  If you suddenly lengthen the axon, you're going to get a delay in the post-synaptic signal that could mess with parallel signal processing in all kinds of ways.  

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### Answer by username_5 on 2015-03-25. Score: 4

This question has been unanswered for a long time and I will attempt to address the issues posed not one by one, as there are a great many questions, but with an overall working of the sensory nervous system with respect to topographic mapping. Moreover, the question uses a great many "suppose ifs" that have never, and most likely will never or cannot be tested. Therefore a basic overview of topographical mapping may shed light on the matter.

The somatosensory cortex is a highly **topographically organized** structure. Although warped in size, it basically contains an exact topographical map of the body, referred to as a *homunculus*:

![homunculus](https://i.sstatic.net/dZYVx.jpg)  
Source: [Guardian](http://guardianlv.com/2013/09/sixth-sense-discovered-for-numerosity-using-fmri-scans/)

In other words, perceptions in the upper arm are represented very near to the lower arm representation in the somatosensory cortex. The motor cortex contains a very similar map.

Similarly, the visual cortices contain many maps representing the visual field, referred to as the **retinotopic** map. Likewise, the auditory system maps frequency space in a highly topographical manner (the **tonotopic map**).

Removing a part of the somatosensory cortex out of its context may wreck havoc on this ordered structure. For example, it has been shown by groundbreaking work from Michael Merzenich and colleagues that when the fingers of a monkey are sewn together, the finger representations in the sensory cortex also fuse, i.e., the **border between the coupled fingers degrades** and vanishes eventually. This experiment shows that when two separate bodily structures are repeatedly and structurally stimulated simultaneously, they fuse in the cortex. Upon separation, original mapping is restored ([Allard et al., 1991](http://jn.physiology.org/content/66/3/1048.short)). I consider this proof that **adjacent structures influence each other's representations in the cortex** because they often receive parallel stimulation. Coherent stimuli typically result in increased synaptic strength.

**Phantom limbs** are interesting indeed. For example, the groundbreaking work by Ramachandran focused on upper arm amputees. These folks would feel sensations in their (amputated) hand when their cheek was stimulated. In the homunculus it can be readily seen that facial representations are close to the hand representation. Upon deafferentation of the arm region in the cortex, surrounding bodily representations take over the 'silenced' regions, and the cheek region 'steals' the hand (which is relatively huge). However, interestingly, the **cheek not only serves its own original representation**, but **refers now to the amputated hand as well**. Hence, the memory of the hand lingers, showing once again that the bodily map is strongly imprinted in the brain and that it is not simply isolated from its context.

How then are visual and tactile stimuli fused as being correlated? This happens in the higher multi-sensory areas in the brain, the so-called *association cortices* such as found in the temporal lobe.

![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/L43k6.png)  
Source: [Insituto Balseiro](http://www.ib.cnea.gov.ar/~redneu/2013/BOOKS/Principles%20of%20Neural%20Science%20-%20Kandel/gateway.ut.ovid.com/gw2/ovidweb.cgisidnjhkoalgmeho00dbookimagebookdb_7c_2fc~24.htm)

These higher areas will link various perceptions and merge them into coherent perceptions. Limbic association areas may couple the butterflies to love.

**Conclusion**  
In all, qualia are localized in the brain by mapping sensory information onto highly organized topographic maps in the cortex. Changes in the periphery (e.g. amputations) will affect this cortical mapping due to plasticity and hence these cortical maps are plastic (subject to change). The reverse can never be easily tested (taking a piece of brain away will have gross consequences) as said, but I think that the quote "[Neurons that wire together fire together](https://rightmindprograms.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/neurons-that-wire-together-fire-together/)" is important here. As said, synaptic strength increases when adjacent neurons fire in coherency and when taken apart their mapping will become distorted. Lastly, emotional feelings are combined with the physical sensation of butterflies in your stomach and synthesized into a holistic feeling of love, probably by the limbic association cortices and perhaps other association areas. in general, the association areas synthesize the various sensory systems by linking them, most likely due to experience.

**Reference**  
[Allard et al., *J Neurophysiol* 1991;**66**:1048-58](http://jn.physiology.org/content/66/3/1048.short)

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