<p>The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits">Big Five model</a> (OCEAN) of personality is based on statistical analysis of a person's tendency to agree or disagree with short descriptive statements, and consists of the following component dimensions:</p>

<ol>
<li><strong>Openness to experience (O):</strong> general appreciation for art, emotion, adventure, unusual ideas, imagination, curiosity, and variety of experience.</li>
<li><strong>Conscientiousness (C):</strong> tendency to show self-discipline, act dutifully, and aim for achievement against measures or outside expectations.</li>
<li><strong>Extraversion (E):</strong> breadth of activities (as opposed to depth), surgency from external activity/situations, and energy creation from external means.</li>
<li><strong>Agreeableness (A):</strong> general concern for social harmony and importance placed on getting along with others.</li>
<li><strong>Neuroticism (N):</strong> tendency to experience negative emotions, such as anger, anxiety, or depression.</li>
</ol>

<p>Of these, I would argue that <strong>the trait which most directly maps on to the concept of a "need for validation" by itself would be Agreeableness.</strong> This is the short answer.</p>

<p>We can, however, imagine a person who is high on Agreeableness, but for personal/cultural/religious reasons does not directly value others' approval; we can similarly imagine a person who is high on Neuroticism and experiences social anxiety, seeking others' approval to alleviate that anxiety. This can be extended to any combination of traits. These more indirect means of obtaining "need for validation" behaviors means that <strong>it is difficult to speak confidently of any one set of Big Five traits, and only that set of traits, mapping on to "need for validation."</strong></p>

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This makes me wonder: Would a high-neuroticism low-agreeableness person crave for external validation?
Is high agreeableness alone enough to make someone crave for external validation?
Is high neuroticism alone enough to make someone crave for external validation?
Berit Larsen
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@BeritLarsen Not necessarily, probably not and also probably not. Even though we might say that behavior is contingent on personality in some sense, we can't really derive specific behaviors from knowing personality scores. You may want to read about the diathesis-stress model: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diathesis%E2%80%93stress_model
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Christian Hummeluhr
<p>In addition to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_Aspect_Scales" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Christian's answer</a>, I want to note that it may be of further interest to examine the Big Five <em>Aspect Scales</em>.  This may provide an additional level of analysis with further potential precision.</p>

<p>The quoted text below is taken directly from <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_Aspect_Scales" rel="nofollow noreferrer">the Wikipedia entry</a> on the subject (though you can read <a href="http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.513.2517&amp;rep=rep1&amp;type=pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">CG DeYoung's original paper</a> as well):</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>"The Big Five Aspect Scales is a personality test that further
  develops the big five personality traits test model by adding two
  "aspects" to each trait. Aspects represent a level of precision
  between the big five personality traits and the facets of the Revised
  NEO Personality Inventory.</p>
  
  <p>The aspects include:</p>
  
  <ul>
  <li><p>Openness/Creativity and Intellect for <strong>Openness</strong>;</p></li>
  <li><p>Orderliness and Industriousness for <strong>Conscientiousness</strong>;</p></li>
  <li><p>Enthusiasm and Assertiveness for <strong>Extraversion</strong>;</p></li>
  <li><p>Politeness and Compassion for <strong>Agreeableness</strong>; and</p></li>
  <li><p>Withdrawal and Volatility for <strong>Neuroticism</strong>."</p></li>
  </ul>
</blockquote>

<p>The particular aspect of Neuroticism that may be likely to contribute would be Withdrawal, or the tendency toward anticipatory anxiety.</p>

<p>The breakdown of Agreeableness into Compassion and Politeness may also provide some insight, considering that compassionate people may be driven by a desire to help others avoid experiencing negative emotion, and that polite people may be driven by respect for authority and desire to avoid conflict themselves.</p>

<p>(Please note that I did not structure this as a direct answer to your questions because it was only intended to be a comment on a previous answer.)</p>

<p><sub>
DeYoung, C. G., Quilty, L. C., &amp; Peterson, J. B. (2007). <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1037/0022-3514.93.5.880" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Between facets and domains: 10 aspects of the Big Five.</a> Journal of personality and social psychology, 93(5), 880. <a href="http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.513.2517&amp;rep=rep1&amp;type=pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">[PDF]</a>
</sub></p>

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<p>Some background to explain my question:
I recently overheard a conversation, between two men working in the same firm.
One of them (A) is thinking about finding a new job, as he is not happy where he is. The other (B) says "A, you have very valuable skills in this, nobody else knows as much as you do about this! You will have no problem at all finding a better job!"</p>

<p>I can see and hear that A is very hesitant to find a new job, he looks uncertain and not convinced that he will indeed find a better job.
A says he feels a need for external validation. A does not seem to have low self-esteem, so the need for external validation seems to be unrelated to self-esteem. </p>

<p><strong>In the Big 5, which personality trait(s) would explain such a need for external validation?</strong>
Neuroticism and agreeableness might be able to answer the question, but that depends on the following:</p>

<ul>
<li>Would a high-neuroticism low-agreeableness person crave for external validation?</li>
<li>Is high agreeableness alone enough to make someone crave for external validation?</li>
<li>Is high neuroticism alone enough to make someone crave for external validation?</li>
</ul>

<personality>
Which personality trait(s) characterize high need for external validation?
Berit Larsen
# Which personality trait(s) characterize high need for external validation?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2014-12-08)

Some background to explain my question:
I recently overheard a conversation, between two men working in the same firm.
One of them (A) is thinking about finding a new job, as he is not happy where he is. The other (B) says "A, you have very valuable skills in this, nobody else knows as much as you do about this! You will have no problem at all finding a better job!"

I can see and hear that A is very hesitant to find a new job, he looks uncertain and not convinced that he will indeed find a better job.
A says he feels a need for external validation. A does not seem to have low self-esteem, so the need for external validation seems to be unrelated to self-esteem.

**In the Big 5, which personality trait(s) would explain such a need for external validation?**
Neuroticism and agreeableness might be able to answer the question, but that depends on the following:

* Would a high-neuroticism low-agreeableness person crave for external validation?
* Is high agreeableness alone enough to make someone crave for external validation?
* Is high neuroticism alone enough to make someone crave for external validation?

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2015-04-24. Score: 6

The [Big Five model](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits) (OCEAN) of personality is based on statistical analysis of a person's tendency to agree or disagree with short descriptive statements, and consists of the following component dimensions:

1. **Openness to experience (O):** general appreciation for art, emotion, adventure, unusual ideas, imagination, curiosity, and variety of experience.
2. **Conscientiousness (C):** tendency to show self-discipline, act dutifully, and aim for achievement against measures or outside expectations.
3. **Extraversion (E):** breadth of activities (as opposed to depth), surgency from external activity/situations, and energy creation from external means.
4. **Agreeableness (A):** general concern for social harmony and importance placed on getting along with others.
5. **Neuroticism (N):** tendency to experience negative emotions, such as anger, anxiety, or depression.

Of these, I would argue that **the trait which most directly maps on to the concept of a "need for validation" by itself would be Agreeableness.** This is the short answer.

We can, however, imagine a person who is high on Agreeableness, but for personal/cultural/religious reasons does not directly value others' approval; we can similarly imagine a person who is high on Neuroticism and experiences social anxiety, seeking others' approval to alleviate that anxiety. This can be extended to any combination of traits. These more indirect means of obtaining "need for validation" behaviors means that **it is difficult to speak confidently of any one set of Big Five traits, and only that set of traits, mapping on to "need for validation."**

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: This makes me wonder: Would a high-neuroticism low-agreeableness person crave for external validation? Is high agreeableness alone enough to make someone crave for external validation? Is high neuroticism alone enough to make someone crave for external validation?  
> **username_1**: @BeritLarsen Not necessarily, probably not and also probably not. Even though we might say that behavior is contingent on personality in some sense, we can't really derive specific behaviors from knowing personality scores. You may want to read about the diathesis-stress model: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diathesis%E2%80%93stress_model  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2017-10-06. Score: 1

In addition to [Christian's answer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_Aspect_Scales), I want to note that it may be of further interest to examine the Big Five *Aspect Scales*. This may provide an additional level of analysis with further potential precision.

The quoted text below is taken directly from [the Wikipedia entry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_Aspect_Scales) on the subject (though you can read [CG DeYoung's original paper](http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.513.2517&rep=rep1&type=pdf) as well):

> "The Big Five Aspect Scales is a personality test that further
> develops the big five personality traits test model by adding two
> "aspects" to each trait. Aspects represent a level of precision
> between the big five personality traits and the facets of the Revised
> NEO Personality Inventory.
>
> The aspects include:
>
> * Openness/Creativity and Intellect for **Openness**;
> * Orderliness and Industriousness for **Conscientiousness**;
> * Enthusiasm and Assertiveness for **Extraversion**;
> * Politeness and Compassion for **Agreeableness**; and
> * Withdrawal and Volatility for **Neuroticism**."

The particular aspect of Neuroticism that may be likely to contribute would be Withdrawal, or the tendency toward anticipatory anxiety.

The breakdown of Agreeableness into Compassion and Politeness may also provide some insight, considering that compassionate people may be driven by a desire to help others avoid experiencing negative emotion, and that polite people may be driven by respect for authority and desire to avoid conflict themselves.

(Please note that I did not structure this as a direct answer to your questions because it was only intended to be a comment on a previous answer.)

DeYoung, C. G., Quilty, L. C., & Peterson, J. B. (2007). [Between facets and domains: 10 aspects of the Big Five.](http://dx.doi.org/10.1037/0022-3514.93.5.880) Journal of personality and social psychology, 93(5), 880. [[PDF]](http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.513.2517&rep=rep1&type=pdf)


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