<p>While most people can master basic math, your dad is probably correct that perhaps "20%" of the population is capable of understanding math at the advanced level you are talking about.</p>

<p>One study on education concluded the following about "A.P." level high school courses (not just in math): [These require students] "to think in abstractions, to synthesize ideas, to grasp complicated interrelationships, to absorb and apply a large amount of academic knowledge. In no country is this ability possessed by more than a minority of children."</p>

<p>Source: Admiral Hyman Rickover, "American Education: A National Failure."</p>

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2017-09-18T04:40:40.987Z
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Tom Au
<p>Intelignece is a combination of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_versus_nurture" rel="nofollow noreferrer">nature and nurture</a>, like most human attributes. The exact percentage is not possible to measure, at least with todays knowledge.</p>

<p>Extract from the article by <a href="http://www.wilderdom.com/personality/L4-1IntelligenceNatureVsNurture.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Neill, J.T. (2004). "Nature vs Nurture in Intelligence"</a> :</p>

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  <p>In the overfocus on nature vs. nurture issues, the attempts to
  estimate the relative contribution rests on the somewhat naive notion
  that there is a constant, true value. In reality, "gene expression is
  environment dependent" and it impossible to obtain pure estimates of
  genetic vs. environmental contribution - one could not exist without
  the other.</p>
</blockquote>

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2017-09-12T08:31:51.510Z
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DesignerAnalyst
<p>My dad always talks vaguely about how 'only 20% (or some other small figure) of the population has the kind of brain equipped with the machinery to process [insert high-level mathematical process, e.g. sophisticated engineering technique or something of the like].' This also applies to people's struggles with probability (e.g. neglecting base rates), et cetera. I was wondering how much of math's talent is just there or not there from birth, vs capable to be learned. Thanks. </p>

<p>In particular, is the majority of the population actually unequipped with the mental machinery (like, say, a frog) to process high-level (say, advanced high school and beyond) maths? Prediction: no.</p>

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Some studies suggest that there is a sharp threshold in IQ below which almost no one can obtain a degree in mathematics or theoretical physics.  Does that interest you?
Rodrigo de Azevedo
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To what extent is maths talent innate?
Joao Noch
# To what extent is maths talent innate?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-09-10)

My dad always talks vaguely about how 'only 20% (or some other small figure) of the population has the kind of brain equipped with the machinery to process [insert high-level mathematical process, e.g. sophisticated engineering technique or something of the like].' This also applies to people's struggles with probability (e.g. neglecting base rates), et cetera. I was wondering how much of math's talent is just there or not there from birth, vs capable to be learned. Thanks.

In particular, is the majority of the population actually unequipped with the mental machinery (like, say, a frog) to process high-level (say, advanced high school and beyond) maths? Prediction: no.

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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Some studies suggest that there is a sharp threshold in IQ below which almost no one can obtain a degree in mathematics or theoretical physics.  Does that interest you?  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2017-09-18. Score: 0 | Accepted answer

While most people can master basic math, your dad is probably correct that perhaps "20%" of the population is capable of understanding math at the advanced level you are talking about.

One study on education concluded the following about "A.P." level high school courses (not just in math): [These require students] "to think in abstractions, to synthesize ideas, to grasp complicated interrelationships, to absorb and apply a large amount of academic knowledge. In no country is this ability possessed by more than a minority of children."

Source: Admiral Hyman Rickover, "American Education: A National Failure."


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### Answer by username_3 on 2017-09-12. Score: 2

Intelignece is a combination of [nature and nurture](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_versus_nurture), like most human attributes. The exact percentage is not possible to measure, at least with todays knowledge.

Extract from the article by [Neill, J.T. (2004). "Nature vs Nurture in Intelligence"](http://www.wilderdom.com/personality/L4-1IntelligenceNatureVsNurture.html) :

> In the overfocus on nature vs. nurture issues, the attempts to
> estimate the relative contribution rests on the somewhat naive notion
> that there is a constant, true value. In reality, "gene expression is
> environment dependent" and it impossible to obtain pure estimates of
> genetic vs. environmental contribution - one could not exist without
> the other.


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