<p>The only evolutionary backed self destructive behavior I can think of is that which in certain situations the act of  sacrificing one's self will aid the passing of one's genes through the next of kin. MAYBE one can come up with a scenario where say, two siblings encounter a lion, one then acts as a sacrifice so that the other can survive. That's a long shot though, and isn't all that relevant to your question. </p>

<p>As previously pointed out, stress and psychological stress aren't necessarily the same thing. A stress response in the body can be induced, independent of psychological factors. If the stress you speak of results in suicide ( and if this is in fact what you mean) the only explanation which would be congruent with biology &amp; evolution is some how, in some way, the act of suicide by the stressed individual will increase the chances for this individual's sister or brother to reproduce. </p>

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Nolohice
<p>There actually is. Self-sacrifice may not be common in the animal kingdom but it does occur.
Ant's will intentionally fight to the death, even when retreat is possible, to defend their colony. Such behavior ensures the overall survival of their hive/nest. This means their genes stick around, and spread the "self-sacrifice" gene. This is, in a way, a positive form of self-destruction, with the goal of ensuring the survival of others. However, there is also evolutionary basis for negative self-destruction. This is particularly noticeable in humans.
Humans do not usually have the same environmental pressures (at least to the same degree) acting on us, that animals do. This means that folks with weaker hearts don't get eaten by the lion, and so they pass on the genetic predisposition to heart disease. Combine this with human social psychology, and you have a situation where not only do they not get eaten, but they are shunned by healthier folks, and are more likely to mate with someone around the same overall genetic fitness, which leads to their offspring being around their same general level of genetic fitness. Combine this with the fact that folks are more likely to be poor when they have rolled poor genes, and poor folks are more likely to have more children, and you end up with a higher number of folks who's brains are extremely impulsive, obsessive (in the wrong ways), or erratic, and higher rates of cancer among other things. This isn't a hard and fast rule, with genetically based mental illnesses for example, being exhibited in someone extremely successful and rich, leading them to suicide.
People like Robin Williams have brains that, due to weird quirks of genetics, managed to
override some pretty serious issues that they are suffering, leading them to be more successful and pass on the genetic trait that may lead to them to self-destruction eventually. This kind of weird situation where harmful genetic traits slip by nature are also noticeable in creatures which over-specialize in surviving particular environments.
For instance, plague-level viruses are actually TOO GOOD at what they do. If they are too specialized, they may wipe out the entire species of host that they have come to rely on, and be unable to adapt quickly enough to infect new host species, leading to their own extinction as well. At the time, it seemed like a good idea...</p>

<p><a href="http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2461362?uid=3739256&amp;uid=2129&amp;uid=2&amp;uid=70&amp;uid=4&amp;sid=21104792679333" rel="nofollow">http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2461362?uid=3739256&amp;uid=2129&amp;uid=2&amp;uid=70&amp;uid=4&amp;sid=21104792679333</a></p>

<p>Our early ancestors are said to have suddenly reached a point in brain development that they quickly developed the tools necessary to kill massive herds of animals. They sometimes killed most, if not all in the herd, and drove the herds into the ground through at least lack of genetic diversity. This behavior resulted from our ancestors brains developing such that they had the means, but not the understanding. So there is more than one way for self-destructive behavior to come about genetically.</p>

<p>Another resource which is more specifically targeting this exact topic:
<a href="http://en.allexperts.com/q/Evolution-3839/2009/5/Evolution-Genetics-bad-traits.htm" rel="nofollow">http://en.allexperts.com/q/Evolution-3839/2009/5/Evolution-Genetics-bad-traits.htm</a></p>

<p>For further research, look into studies concerning increasing rates of cancer, for which there are a million studies. One such example:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.breastcancer.org/symptoms/understand_bc/statistics" rel="nofollow">http://www.breastcancer.org/symptoms/understand_bc/statistics</a></p>

<blockquote>
  <p>About 5-10% of breast cancers can be linked to gene mutations (abnormal changes) inherited from one’s mother or father. Mutations of the BRCA1 and BRCA2 genes are the most common. Women with a BRCA1 mutation have a 55-65% risk of developing breast cancer before age 70, and often at a younger age that it typically develops. For women with a BRCA2 mutation, this risk is 45%. An increased ovarian cancer risk is also associated with these genetic mutations. In men, BRCA2 mutations are associated with a lifetime breast cancer risk of about 6%; BRCA1 mutations are a less frequent cause of breast cancer in men.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>For folks with a genetic predisposition to develop breast cancer, their increased survival rate means an increase of the gene in the population over time. </p>

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"Combine this with the fact that folks are more likely to be poor when they have rolled poor genes, and poor folks are more likely to have more children, and you end up with a higher number of folks who's brains are extremely impulsive, obsessive (in the wrong ways), or erratic, and higher rates of cancer among other things." Is there evidence showing this? "This isn't a hard and fast rule, with genetically based mental illnesses for example, being exhibited in someone extremely successful and rich, leading them to suicide." And this?
dogAwakeCat
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"People like Robin Williams have brains that, due to weird quirks of genetics, managed to override some pretty serious issues that they are suffering, leading them to be more successful and pass on the genetic trait that may lead to them to self-destruction eventually." Is there evidence to suggest that some people, say Robin Williams, have a genetic trait that allows them to cope with depression better than someone else, who, I think you are assuming, commits suicide before having children?
dogAwakeCat
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SmugDoodleBug
<p>There are many different uses for the word "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress" rel="nofollow noreferrer">stress</a>" that should not be confused with one another.  For example, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-destructive_behaviour" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Self-destructive behaviour</a> may be used to cope with <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_%28psychological%29" rel="nofollow noreferrer">psychological stress</a>.  Other examples are <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight-or-flight_response" rel="nofollow noreferrer">stress response</a>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_%28biology%29" rel="nofollow noreferrer">biological stress</a>, both of which have very different meanings.  An important driving force of natural selection - a key process in evolution - is called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_pressure" rel="nofollow noreferrer">selection pressure</a>, which is yet another entirely different kind of stress.</p>

<p>Evolution certainly has great explanatory power, but it doesn't explain all behaviour - especially not the kind that is learned rather than inherited.</p>

<p>I am not aware of any evidence that self-destructive behaviour is inherited, but there is some evidence that it <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-destructive_behaviour#Causes" rel="nofollow noreferrer">may be learned</a>.  As such, there is no impetus to explain this behaviour in an evolutionary context.  Having said that, self-harm is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-harm#Other_animals" rel="nofollow noreferrer">found in animals</a> besides humans, suggesting that perhaps something may be inherited (eg, the basic "learning mechanism" in humans has many similarities to other animals) that has this side-effect.</p>

<p>A lot of human behaviour does not "make sense" in the immediate context.  Much human behaviour relies on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuristic#Theorized_psychological_heuristics" rel="nofollow noreferrer">heuristic rules</a> that work most of the time, but fail some of the time.  So for example, if self-harm results from learning, then well, most of the time our built-in learning mechanism serves us well, but sometimes it fails us.</p>

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Arnon Weinberg
<p>Self-destructive behavior is usually related to the stress response.</p>

<p>Given that the world is a big source of stress and stress usually is also a source of evolution (since we must adapt to survive), is there any evolutionary theory that explains (or try to explain) the self destructive behavior under stress?</p>

<p>I mean, if the idea is to survive, wouldn't make more sense if, under stress, we could just try harder instead of giving up?</p>

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perhaps you could backup your assertion about self-destructive behavior being a stress response with some literature.  Explaining behavior in terms of evolution is very difficult.  I also see two ideas here: giving up vs. self-destructive.
Keegan Keplinger
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Suicide and self-harm are commonly recognized as often prompted by stress, aren't they?
Nick Stauner
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that's the idea @NickStauner
Leo
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I believe trying to establish causality to evolution is incredibly difficult and mostly theoretical. If you can even link *self preservation* to evolution **concretely**, it would surprise me. Right now, *small things* such as aggression in domesticated canids can be traced to the presence of repetitive specific genes and their increase through selective breeding. But evolution? The science isn't there yet.
anongoodnurse
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why should every single phenomenon be evolutionarily adaptive?  evolution isn't perfect.
honi
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Self-destructive behaviour could be educational to bystanders. For example, it can show others the not-so-limited potential of willpower. It could even be seen as strength. Moreover, the performer is like a biology specimen to society, which can be beneficial as well. By *beneficial*, I mean to the greater society, not the individual. In the case of suicide, a truly unfit individual could actually help the gene pool by leaving it. While politically incorrect, this phenomenon is rather altruistic. The selective pressure may be weak but nevertheless existent.
Michael
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"Evolutionary theory" is merely a story involving a deeply unintelligent mechanism that selects selfish genes, and thus their machine (you). If that isn't enough to explain self-destructive behavior and stress (and the other folkloric stuff our planet/life is famous for), I don't know what will.
JinSnow
<stress><self-discipline>
Is there any evolutionary theory for self-destructive behavior?
Leo
# Is there any evolutionary theory for self-destructive behavior?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2014-05-29)

Self-destructive behavior is usually related to the stress response.

Given that the world is a big source of stress and stress usually is also a source of evolution (since we must adapt to survive), is there any evolutionary theory that explains (or try to explain) the self destructive behavior under stress?

I mean, if the idea is to survive, wouldn't make more sense if, under stress, we could just try harder instead of giving up?

**Tags:** stress, self-discipline

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: perhaps you could backup your assertion about self-destructive behavior being a stress response with some literature.  Explaining behavior in terms of evolution is very difficult.  I also see two ideas here: giving up vs. self-destructive.  
> **username_2**: Suicide and self-harm are commonly recognized as often prompted by stress, aren't they?  
> **username_0**: that's the idea @NickStauner  
> **username_3**: I believe trying to establish causality to evolution is incredibly difficult and mostly theoretical. If you can even link *self preservation* to evolution **concretely**, it would surprise me. Right now, *small things* such as aggression in domesticated canids can be traced to the presence of repetitive specific genes and their increase through selective breeding. But evolution? The science isn't there yet.  
> **username_4**: why should every single phenomenon be evolutionarily adaptive?  evolution isn't perfect.  
> **username_5**: Self-destructive behaviour could be educational to bystanders. For example, it can show others the not-so-limited potential of willpower. It could even be seen as strength. Moreover, the performer is like a biology specimen to society, which can be beneficial as well. By *beneficial*, I mean to the greater society, not the individual. In the case of suicide, a truly unfit individual could actually help the gene pool by leaving it. While politically incorrect, this phenomenon is rather altruistic. The selective pressure may be weak but nevertheless existent.  
> **username_6**: "Evolutionary theory" is merely a story involving a deeply unintelligent mechanism that selects selfish genes, and thus their machine (you). If that isn't enough to explain self-destructive behavior and stress (and the other folkloric stuff our planet/life is famous for), I don't know what will.  

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## 3 answers

### Answer by username_10 on 2014-12-01. Score: 6 | Accepted answer

There are many different uses for the word "[stress](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress)" that should not be confused with one another. For example, [Self-destructive behaviour](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-destructive_behaviour) may be used to cope with [psychological stress](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_%28psychological%29). Other examples are [stress response](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight-or-flight_response), and [biological stress](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_%28biology%29), both of which have very different meanings. An important driving force of natural selection - a key process in evolution - is called [selection pressure](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_pressure), which is yet another entirely different kind of stress.

Evolution certainly has great explanatory power, but it doesn't explain all behaviour - especially not the kind that is learned rather than inherited.

I am not aware of any evidence that self-destructive behaviour is inherited, but there is some evidence that it [may be learned](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-destructive_behaviour#Causes). As such, there is no impetus to explain this behaviour in an evolutionary context. Having said that, self-harm is [found in animals](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-harm#Other_animals) besides humans, suggesting that perhaps something may be inherited (eg, the basic "learning mechanism" in humans has many similarities to other animals) that has this side-effect.

A lot of human behaviour does not "make sense" in the immediate context. Much human behaviour relies on [heuristic rules](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuristic#Theorized_psychological_heuristics) that work most of the time, but fail some of the time. So for example, if self-harm results from learning, then well, most of the time our built-in learning mechanism serves us well, but sometimes it fails us.


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### Answer by username_7 on 2014-12-11. Score: 1

The only evolutionary backed self destructive behavior I can think of is that which in certain situations the act of sacrificing one's self will aid the passing of one's genes through the next of kin. MAYBE one can come up with a scenario where say, two siblings encounter a lion, one then acts as a sacrifice so that the other can survive. That's a long shot though, and isn't all that relevant to your question.

As previously pointed out, stress and psychological stress aren't necessarily the same thing. A stress response in the body can be induced, independent of psychological factors. If the stress you speak of results in suicide ( and if this is in fact what you mean) the only explanation which would be congruent with biology & evolution is some how, in some way, the act of suicide by the stressed individual will increase the chances for this individual's sister or brother to reproduce.


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### Answer by username_8 on 2014-09-30. Score: 0

There actually is. Self-sacrifice may not be common in the animal kingdom but it does occur.
Ant's will intentionally fight to the death, even when retreat is possible, to defend their colony. Such behavior ensures the overall survival of their hive/nest. This means their genes stick around, and spread the "self-sacrifice" gene. This is, in a way, a positive form of self-destruction, with the goal of ensuring the survival of others. However, there is also evolutionary basis for negative self-destruction. This is particularly noticeable in humans.
Humans do not usually have the same environmental pressures (at least to the same degree) acting on us, that animals do. This means that folks with weaker hearts don't get eaten by the lion, and so they pass on the genetic predisposition to heart disease. Combine this with human social psychology, and you have a situation where not only do they not get eaten, but they are shunned by healthier folks, and are more likely to mate with someone around the same overall genetic fitness, which leads to their offspring being around their same general level of genetic fitness. Combine this with the fact that folks are more likely to be poor when they have rolled poor genes, and poor folks are more likely to have more children, and you end up with a higher number of folks who's brains are extremely impulsive, obsessive (in the wrong ways), or erratic, and higher rates of cancer among other things. This isn't a hard and fast rule, with genetically based mental illnesses for example, being exhibited in someone extremely successful and rich, leading them to suicide.
People like Robin Williams have brains that, due to weird quirks of genetics, managed to
override some pretty serious issues that they are suffering, leading them to be more successful and pass on the genetic trait that may lead to them to self-destruction eventually. This kind of weird situation where harmful genetic traits slip by nature are also noticeable in creatures which over-specialize in surviving particular environments.
For instance, plague-level viruses are actually TOO GOOD at what they do. If they are too specialized, they may wipe out the entire species of host that they have come to rely on, and be unable to adapt quickly enough to infect new host species, leading to their own extinction as well. At the time, it seemed like a good idea...

<http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2461362?uid=3739256&uid=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&sid=21104792679333>

Our early ancestors are said to have suddenly reached a point in brain development that they quickly developed the tools necessary to kill massive herds of animals. They sometimes killed most, if not all in the herd, and drove the herds into the ground through at least lack of genetic diversity. This behavior resulted from our ancestors brains developing such that they had the means, but not the understanding. So there is more than one way for self-destructive behavior to come about genetically.

Another resource which is more specifically targeting this exact topic:
<http://en.allexperts.com/q/Evolution-3839/2009/5/Evolution-Genetics-bad-traits.htm>

For further research, look into studies concerning increasing rates of cancer, for which there are a million studies. One such example:

<http://www.breastcancer.org/symptoms/understand_bc/statistics>

> About 5-10% of breast cancers can be linked to gene mutations (abnormal changes) inherited from one’s mother or father. Mutations of the BRCA1 and BRCA2 genes are the most common. Women with a BRCA1 mutation have a 55-65% risk of developing breast cancer before age 70, and often at a younger age that it typically develops. For women with a BRCA2 mutation, this risk is 45%. An increased ovarian cancer risk is also associated with these genetic mutations. In men, BRCA2 mutations are associated with a lifetime breast cancer risk of about 6%; BRCA1 mutations are a less frequent cause of breast cancer in men.

For folks with a genetic predisposition to develop breast cancer, their increased survival rate means an increase of the gene in the population over time.

> **Comments:**
> **username_9**: "Combine this with the fact that folks are more likely to be poor when they have rolled poor genes, and poor folks are more likely to have more children, and you end up with a higher number of folks who's brains are extremely impulsive, obsessive (in the wrong ways), or erratic, and higher rates of cancer among other things." Is there evidence showing this? "This isn't a hard and fast rule, with genetically based mental illnesses for example, being exhibited in someone extremely successful and rich, leading them to suicide." And this?  
> **username_9**: "People like Robin Williams have brains that, due to weird quirks of genetics, managed to override some pretty serious issues that they are suffering, leading them to be more successful and pass on the genetic trait that may lead to them to self-destruction eventually." Is there evidence to suggest that some people, say Robin Williams, have a genetic trait that allows them to cope with depression better than someone else, who, I think you are assuming, commits suicide before having children?  

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