<p>Am reading through LotR now, and have just finished H, Lost Tales, R, FG, etc. so the memories are still pretty fresh.</p>

<p>The Ring verse is the longest bit of Black Speech, followed by Grishnákh's bit of invective towards Ugluk. Other than that, there's only a couple individual words (like <em>snaga</em>, slave and <em>ghash</em>, fire) to be found.</p>

<p>Tolkien himself wrote as much in a letter (No. 144) to a reader of page-proofs (presumably of LotR): <em>...[Black Speech] only occurs in the Ring inscription, and a sentence uttered by the Orcs of Barad-Dur and in the word Nazgúl.</em>
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A <a href="https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/223148/does-the-black-speech-have-a-name/223172#223172">related query</a> on the Black Speech.</p>

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Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for! (It really sounds like I need to get ahold of a copy of Tolkien's letters.)
auden
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You're welcome! Yeah, the *The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien* (edited by Humphery Carpenter in 1981) is a real treat. I found a copy in the local used book shop a month or so ago. There are several on Ebay now, and you can probably get through Amazon or etc. Looks like it will be very illuminating indeed! Though I was terribly saddened to read his thoughts on the ultimate resolution of the long search of the Ents for the Entwives. :(
elemtilas
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Yes, I read that - I'd kind of figured that was something like what happened, and it'd feel wrong for it to have happened otherwise (besides, the old things are "dying out" of Middle Earth) - but the Ents are one of my favorite characters in the books and it was sad to know, and have it stated.
auden
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elemtilas
<p>What samples or knowledge do we have of the black speech created by Tolkien? Having read a decent amount of the legendarium (Silmarillion, LotR, Hobbit, Children of Hurin, and some of the Lost Tales) the only occurrence I am aware of is the inscription on the one ring.</p>

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How much of Tolkien's "black language" exists?
# How much of Tolkien's "black language" exists?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-02-07)

What samples or knowledge do we have of the black speech created by Tolkien? Having read a decent amount of the legendarium (Silmarillion, LotR, Hobbit, Children of Hurin, and some of the Lost Tales) the only occurrence I am aware of is the inscription on the one ring.

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### Answer by username_1 on 2018-02-07. Score: 15 | Accepted answer

Am reading through LotR now, and have just finished H, Lost Tales, R, FG, etc. so the memories are still pretty fresh.

The Ring verse is the longest bit of Black Speech, followed by Grishnákh's bit of invective towards Ugluk. Other than that, there's only a couple individual words (like *snaga*, slave and *ghash*, fire) to be found.

Tolkien himself wrote as much in a letter (No. 144) to a reader of page-proofs (presumably of LotR): *...[Black Speech] only occurs in the Ring inscription, and a sentence uttered by the Orcs of Barad-Dur and in the word Nazgúl.*

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A [related query](https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/223148/does-the-black-speech-have-a-name/223172#223172) on the Black Speech.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for! (It really sounds like I need to get ahold of a copy of Tolkien's letters.)  
> **username_1**: You're welcome! Yeah, the *The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien* (edited by Humphery Carpenter in 1981) is a real treat. I found a copy in the local used book shop a month or so ago. There are several on Ebay now, and you can probably get through Amazon or etc. Looks like it will be very illuminating indeed! Though I was terribly saddened to read his thoughts on the ultimate resolution of the long search of the Ents for the Entwives. :(  
> **username_0**: Yes, I read that - I'd kind of figured that was something like what happened, and it'd feel wrong for it to have happened otherwise (besides, the old things are "dying out" of Middle Earth) - but the Ents are one of my favorite characters in the books and it was sad to know, and have it stated.  

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