<p><strong>朝鮮冷麪</strong> is just <em>Korean cold noodles</em>, not specifically from North or South Korea.</p>

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<p>The confusion arises because <strong>朝鮮</strong> may be either translated as</p>

<ul>
<li><p><em>Korea</em>, as it is the traditional name for Korea which matches the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseon" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Joseon Dynasty</a> (大<strong>朝鮮</strong>國 or <strong>朝鮮</strong>王朝);</p></li>
<li><p><em>North Korea</em>, because this is what <strong>朝鮮</strong> refers to after the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_Korea" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Division of Korea</a>; the official name of the country is <strong>朝鮮</strong>民主主義人民共和國 (<em>Democratic People's Republic of Korea</em>).</p></li>
</ul>

<p>For anything to do with traditional culture/art/food etc., it is improbable that <strong>朝鮮</strong> means <em>North Korea</em>, although only context can make you certain of what it really refers to. Since <em>cold noodles</em> is a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naengmyeon" rel="nofollow noreferrer">traditional food</a> eaten throughout the whole of the Korean peninsula, <strong>朝鮮冷麪</strong> should be taken as <em>(traditional) Korean cold noodles</em>.</p>

<p>For disambiguation purposes, one may call <em>North Korea</em> as <strong>北朝鮮</strong> or <strong>北韓</strong> instead. Compare <em>South Korea</em>, which may be unambiguously called either <strong>南韓</strong> or <strong>韓國</strong>; note that it is exceedingly rare to refer to South Korea with the name <strong>朝鮮</strong>.</p>

<p>If one wants to unambiguously refer to Traditional Korea, one may use the archaic word <strong>高麗</strong> instead, which is where the English name <em>Korea</em> comes from.</p>

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Thanks to the division, we now have three closely related flavors of 朝鲜冷面: 北朝鲜冷面, 韩国冷面 and 朝鲜族冷面.
Frenzy Li
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@FrenzyLi Interesting! So the different varieties are distinguished by those names, I suppose? I don't actually know the situation back in Mainland China, and in Western countries we don't get much of 朝鮮族 and 北韓 cuisine.
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Yes, you can take the three names at face value. To be honest, the “朝鲜”冷面 from Tianjin or any other places other than 延边朝鲜族人民自治州 or a famed chain will probably taste very different from 朝鲜冷面, so OP shouldn’t get their hopes high.
Frenzy Li
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For the record, a _real_ 吃货 would distinguish between at least 平壤冷面, 咸兴冷面 and 全罗冷面; the culinary distinction is much more city/region-based than country-based.
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dROOOze
<p>It's hard to get the origin of 朝鲜冷面. <a href="https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E6%9C%9D%E9%B2%9C%E5%86%B7%E9%9D%A2/3291663?fr=aladdin" rel="nofollow noreferrer">here</a> is the reference from Baidu. </p>

<p>For most of natives from mainland, it's just the way/recipe (how 冷面 is cooked) that is developed by 朝鲜族 inside or outside(North/South Korea) of Mainland China. It's very popular in northeast China, since most of 朝鲜族 are located there and plus it's close to North Korea.  </p>

<p>Nowadays, when we say 朝鲜 or 北朝鲜 within mainland， it refers to North Korea. South Korea is 韩国 or 南朝鲜. If we take it as a whole, we will say 整个朝鲜（半岛） the whole Korean Peninsula. </p>

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<p>The Korea Peninsula used to be called 高丽. The name of 朝鲜 is granted by 朱元璋, the first emperor of the 明 dynasty. However, in the name of the ethno-lingual group residing on The Peninsula, the 韩 people, the character was rather like randomly selected to represent the pronunciation in their native language.</p>

<p>In the period of Japanese colonization and after, especially after Japan’s surrender in 1945 and the Korean civil war which involved People’s Voluntary Army (of China) and American troops (under the flag of UN), the rise of Korean nationalism in the south sought to lessen the influences from both Japan and China, and chose 大韩民国 (Republic of Korea) as the name of their state, whereas the Labor Party in the north sought to inherit the old Korea Empire and to stay close with “communist” comrades, namely PRC and USSR, selected 朝鲜民主主义人民共和国 (Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) instead. Note that the English word “Korea” comes from “高丽”, so actually DPRK should be DPRC (Democratic People’s Republic of Chosen).</p>

<p>Probably due to the Cold War, PRC used the name “朝鲜族” to refer to the Korean immigrants who came from The Peninsula during the Japanese colonization in The Peninsula and Manchuria.</p>

<p>Bearing these in mind, you should understand that “朝鲜” doesn’t refer to DPRK only; it is the name of the country of The Peninsula for centuries; the division has been there for decades but unity shall be restored and independence shall be earned.</p>

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<p>In Tianjin, sometimes we see 朝鲜冷面 (Cháoxiǎn lěngmiàn) for sale:</p>

<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/4NyfXm.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/4NyfXm.jpg" alt="Chinese LED sign saying 朝鲜冷面"></a></p>

<p>Breaking this down:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://dict.cn/%E6%9C%9D%E9%B2%9C" rel="nofollow noreferrer">朝鲜</a> (Cháoxiǎn) = Korea or North Korea, depending on context</li>
<li><a href="http://dict.cn/%E5%86%B7%E9%9D%A2" rel="nofollow noreferrer">冷面</a> (lěng miàn) = cold noodles</li>
</ul>

<p>YouDao says <a href="http://youdao.com/w/eng/%E6%9C%9D%E9%B2%9C%E5%86%B7%E9%9D%A2" rel="nofollow noreferrer">朝鲜冷面</a> translates to "Korean cold noodles".</p>

<p><strong>Question</strong>: Are 朝鲜冷面 from Korea (North and South) or only North Korea?</p>

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朝鲜族 Koreans are a recognized 小数民族 national minority，CCTV used to list Korean (for Chinese Koreans) as available  language (for Chinese nationals)  now there only is Kazakh, Uyghur, Tibetan and Mongolian

cf。2010年第六次中华人民共和国人口普查：１４。朝鲜族1830929
user6065
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@user6065 The correct term is 少数民族.
Frenzy Li
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@Becky I would assume that mul naengmyeon is served-- the variety of 冷面 that serves broth mixed with ice?
Frenzy Li
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definitely, cf. **小数** bkrs:small figure
small amount
the part of a number to the right of the decimal point (or radix point)
fractional part of a number
number between 0 and 1
decimal fraction  

**少数**  不多，数量较少。相对于多数而言。
如：「少数服从多数。」
 
small number
few
minority
shǎo shù
small number; few; minority:
少数服从多数。 The minority is subordinate to the majority.
他们明显于少数。 They are in a decided minority.
这种人当然占少数。 Such persons are certainly in the minority.
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Are 朝鲜冷面 (Cháoxiǎn lěngmiàn) from Korea (North and South) or only North Korea?
# Are 朝鲜冷面 (Cháoxiǎn lěngmiàn) from Korea (North and South) or only North Korea?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-06-24)

In Tianjin, sometimes we see 朝鲜冷面 (Cháoxiǎn lěngmiàn) for sale:

[![Chinese LED sign saying 朝鲜冷面](https://i.sstatic.net/4NyfXm.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/4NyfXm.jpg)

Breaking this down:

* [朝鲜](http://dict.cn/%E6%9C%9D%E9%B2%9C) (Cháoxiǎn) = Korea or North Korea, depending on context
* [冷面](http://dict.cn/%E5%86%B7%E9%9D%A2) (lěng miàn) = cold noodles

YouDao says [朝鲜冷面](http://youdao.com/w/eng/%E6%9C%9D%E9%B2%9C%E5%86%B7%E9%9D%A2) translates to "Korean cold noodles".

**Question**: Are 朝鲜冷面 from Korea (North and South) or only North Korea?

**Tags:** meaning-in-context, food

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: 朝鲜族 Koreans are a recognized 小数民族 national minority，CCTV used to list Korean (for Chinese Koreans) as available  language (for Chinese nationals)  now there only is Kazakh, Uyghur, Tibetan and Mongolian  cf。2010年第六次中华人民共和国人口普查：１４。朝鲜族1830929  
> **username_2**: @username_1 The correct term is 少数民族.  
> **username_2**: @Becky I would assume that mul naengmyeon is served-- the variety of 冷面 that serves broth mixed with ice?  
> **username_1**: definitely, cf. **小数** bkrs:small figure small amount the part of a number to the right of the decimal point (or radix point) fractional part of a number number between 0 and 1 decimal fraction    **少数**  不多，数量较少。相对于多数而言。 如：「少数服从多数。」   small number few minority shǎo shù small number; few; minority: 少数服从多数。 The minority is subordinate to the majority. 他们明显于少数。 They are in a decided minority. 这种人当然占少数。 Such persons are certainly in the minority.  

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## 3 answers

### Answer by username_3 on 2018-06-24. Score: 2 | Accepted answer

**朝鮮冷麪** is just *Korean cold noodles*, not specifically from North or South Korea.

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The confusion arises because **朝鮮** may be either translated as

* *Korea*, as it is the traditional name for Korea which matches the [Joseon Dynasty](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseon) (大**朝鮮**國 or **朝鮮**王朝);
* *North Korea*, because this is what **朝鮮** refers to after the [Division of Korea](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_Korea); the official name of the country is **朝鮮**民主主義人民共和國 (*Democratic People's Republic of Korea*).

For anything to do with traditional culture/art/food etc., it is improbable that **朝鮮** means *North Korea*, although only context can make you certain of what it really refers to. Since *cold noodles* is a [traditional food](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naengmyeon) eaten throughout the whole of the Korean peninsula, **朝鮮冷麪** should be taken as *(traditional) Korean cold noodles*.

For disambiguation purposes, one may call *North Korea* as **北朝鮮** or **北韓** instead. Compare *South Korea*, which may be unambiguously called either **南韓** or **韓國**; note that it is exceedingly rare to refer to South Korea with the name **朝鮮**.

If one wants to unambiguously refer to Traditional Korea, one may use the archaic word **高麗** instead, which is where the English name *Korea* comes from.

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: Thanks to the division, we now have three closely related flavors of 朝鲜冷面: 北朝鲜冷面, 韩国冷面 and 朝鲜族冷面.  
> **username_3**: @FrenzyLi Interesting! So the different varieties are distinguished by those names, I suppose? I don't actually know the situation back in Mainland China, and in Western countries we don't get much of 朝鮮族 and 北韓 cuisine.  
> **username_2**: Yes, you can take the three names at face value. To be honest, the “朝鲜”冷面 from Tianjin or any other places other than 延边朝鲜族人民自治州 or a famed chain will probably taste very different from 朝鲜冷面, so OP shouldn’t get their hopes high.  
> **username_4**: For the record, a _real_ 吃货 would distinguish between at least 平壤冷面, 咸兴冷面 and 全罗冷面; the culinary distinction is much more city/region-based than country-based.  

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### Answer by username_5 on 2018-06-24. Score: 2

It's hard to get the origin of 朝鲜冷面. [here](https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E6%9C%9D%E9%B2%9C%E5%86%B7%E9%9D%A2/3291663?fr=aladdin) is the reference from Baidu.

For most of natives from mainland, it's just the way/recipe (how 冷面 is cooked) that is developed by 朝鲜族 inside or outside(North/South Korea) of Mainland China. It's very popular in northeast China, since most of 朝鲜族 are located there and plus it's close to North Korea.

Nowadays, when we say 朝鲜 or 北朝鲜 within mainland， it refers to North Korea. South Korea is 韩国 or 南朝鲜. If we take it as a whole, we will say 整个朝鲜（半岛） the whole Korean Peninsula.


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### Answer by username_6 on 2018-07-01. Score: -1

The Korea Peninsula used to be called 高丽. The name of 朝鲜 is granted by 朱元璋, the first emperor of the 明 dynasty. However, in the name of the ethno-lingual group residing on The Peninsula, the 韩 people, the character was rather like randomly selected to represent the pronunciation in their native language.

In the period of Japanese colonization and after, especially after Japan’s surrender in 1945 and the Korean civil war which involved People’s Voluntary Army (of China) and American troops (under the flag of UN), the rise of Korean nationalism in the south sought to lessen the influences from both Japan and China, and chose 大韩民国 (Republic of Korea) as the name of their state, whereas the Labor Party in the north sought to inherit the old Korea Empire and to stay close with “communist” comrades, namely PRC and USSR, selected 朝鲜民主主义人民共和国 (Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) instead. Note that the English word “Korea” comes from “高丽”, so actually DPRK should be DPRC (Democratic People’s Republic of Chosen).

Probably due to the Cold War, PRC used the name “朝鲜族” to refer to the Korean immigrants who came from The Peninsula during the Japanese colonization in The Peninsula and Manchuria.

Bearing these in mind, you should understand that “朝鲜” doesn’t refer to DPRK only; it is the name of the country of The Peninsula for centuries; the division has been there for decades but unity shall be restored and independence shall be earned.


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