<p>I would say:</p>

<p>知識是一種信念, 但信念不必是知識.</p>

<p>I thus translate it because of the following reasons.</p>

<p>1) A belief is something that is not tested or proved. </p>

<p>2) Knowledge in natural sciences is something that passes lots of tests. But, it is still to a certain extent a belief; for there is no way to be sure that knowledge in natural sciences will not be disputed by new evidence. </p>

<p>Therefore, knowledge can be viewed as the collection of tested beliefs. </p>

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2014-09-07T03:59:16.933Z
@GeorgeChen: Welcome. But by "first translation" do you mean "知識是信念的子集"? Isn't it just a verbatim translation :)
Yes
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2014-09-07T07:41:04.687Z
Yes, the one in my inbox is definitely better.
George Chen
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2014-09-07T08:09:38.750Z
I only had problem with the translation of belief. It's hard to avoid religious connotation.
George Chen
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2014-09-07T03:37:51.353Z
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<p>If you are referring to the meaning of followed picture, maybe you can say  "知识是客观事实和主观认知交集的子集". </p>

<p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/E8P5e.png" alt="enter image description here"></p>

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2014-09-03T09:33:34.943Z
This seems a pretty boring translation...
dumduke
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2014-09-03T09:37:01.717Z
You know exactly my context. But the translation is way off.  客观事实 is facts, not truths. 主观认知 if that is belief, that must be newly invented word.
George Chen
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2014-09-03T09:41:08.147Z
That picture is wrong too. truths is a subset of beliefs, knowledge is a subset of truths. More succinctly, true or false is a property of beliefs and knowledge is a subset of true beliefs. But I'm curious where you get it?
George Chen
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2014-09-03T09:42:25.767Z
I swear I didn't down vote you,
 @caffHuang. I appreciate your participation.
George Chen
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2014-09-03T10:16:12.307Z
The picture came from Wikipedia. I'm not convenient to get the page URL right now.  You should can find it easily by querying the sentence you want translate.
dumduke
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2014-09-03T10:18:06.407Z
I got it. http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%9F%A5%E8%AF%86%E8%AE%BA. Thanks, @caffhuang!
George Chen
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2014-09-03T09:32:20.807Z
2014-09-03T09:32:20.807Z
dumduke
<p>I'm trying to write this in Chinese:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>"Knowledge is a subset of true beliefs."</p>
</blockquote>

<p>But I can't find a proper word for "beliefs."</p>

<p>Notice that 信仰 is faith. Faith has religious connotations; belief is neutral.</p>

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2014-09-03T09:16:40.220Z
`信心` is the word you're looking for here, I would translate the above sentence as 知识是真信心的基础 - I switched 'base' or 'basis' in for 'subset' as I don't think subset would translate super clearly into Chinese.
Mou某
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2014-09-03T09:23:30.717Z
信心 is confidence. When I say "my belief is the cat made the noise," I don't mean "I have confidence it was the cat who made the noise." Confidence is more about self-trust.
George Chen
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2014-09-03T09:30:10.853Z
信念 is too religious. One of my beliefs is the ocean is made of water and salt. Can I use 信念 here?
George Chen
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2014-09-03T09:32:45.510Z
If someone says the morning star and the envening star are two heavenly bodies, then this belief is not true, thus it can't count as knowledge.
George Chen
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2014-09-03T09:40:16.120Z
信心 can mean a lot of things one dictionary uses "confidence; faith; belief" to define it.
Mou某
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2014-09-03T09:42:41.330Z
@GeorgeChen you seem to have a pretty poor grasp of Chinese - you might want to accept what people tell you instead of fighting it each time.
Mou某
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2014-09-03T09:46:30.987Z
Most Chinese words, I'm afraid, won't survive my scrutiny. How much non-sense we've talking everyday!
George Chen
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2014-09-03T10:10:30.750Z
Thanks, @songyuanyao. and  user3306356. What I'm doing now requires extreme precision. Pardon me for being too picky. You all have a great day!
George Chen
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How to translate belief?
# How to translate belief?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2014-09-03)

I'm trying to write this in Chinese:

> "Knowledge is a subset of true beliefs."

But I can't find a proper word for "beliefs."

Notice that 信仰 is faith. Faith has religious connotations; belief is neutral.

**Tags:** translation, word

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: `信心` is the word you're looking for here, I would translate the above sentence as 知识是真信心的基础 - I switched 'base' or 'basis' in for 'subset' as I don't think subset would translate super clearly into Chinese.  
> **username_0**: 信心 is confidence. When I say "my belief is the cat made the noise," I don't mean "I have confidence it was the cat who made the noise." Confidence is more about self-trust.  
> **username_0**: 信念 is too religious. One of my beliefs is the ocean is made of water and salt. Can I use 信念 here?  
> **username_0**: If someone says the morning star and the envening star are two heavenly bodies, then this belief is not true, thus it can't count as knowledge.  
> **username_1**: 信心 can mean a lot of things one dictionary uses "confidence; faith; belief" to define it.  
> **username_1**: @GeorgeChen you seem to have a pretty poor grasp of Chinese - you might want to accept what people tell you instead of fighting it each time.  
> **username_0**: Most Chinese words, I'm afraid, won't survive my scrutiny. How much non-sense we've talking everyday!  
> **username_0**: Thanks, @songyuanyao. and  user3306356. What I'm doing now requires extreme precision. Pardon me for being too picky. You all have a great day!  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2014-09-07. Score: 3

I would say:

知識是一種信念, 但信念不必是知識.

I thus translate it because of the following reasons.

1) A belief is something that is not tested or proved.

2) Knowledge in natural sciences is something that passes lots of tests. But, it is still to a certain extent a belief; for there is no way to be sure that knowledge in natural sciences will not be disputed by new evidence.

Therefore, knowledge can be viewed as the collection of tested beliefs.

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: @GeorgeChen: Welcome. But by "first translation" do you mean "知識是信念的子集"? Isn't it just a verbatim translation :)  
> **username_0**: username_2, the one in my inbox is definitely better.  
> **username_0**: I only had problem with the translation of belief. It's hard to avoid religious connotation.  

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### Answer by username_3 on 2014-09-03. Score: 1

If you are referring to the meaning of followed picture, maybe you can say "知识是客观事实和主观认知交集的子集".

![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/E8P5e.png)

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: This seems a pretty boring translation...  
> **username_0**: You know exactly my context. But the translation is way off.  客观事实 is facts, not truths. 主观认知 if that is belief, that must be newly invented word.  
> **username_0**: That picture is wrong too. truths is a subset of beliefs, knowledge is a subset of truths. More succinctly, true or false is a property of beliefs and knowledge is a subset of true beliefs. But I'm curious where you get it?  
> **username_0**: I swear I didn't down vote you,  @caffHuang. I appreciate your participation.  
> **username_3**: The picture came from Wikipedia. I'm not convenient to get the page URL right now.  You should can find it easily by querying the sentence you want translate.  
> **username_0**: I got it. http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%9F%A5%E8%AF%86%E8%AE%BA. Thanks, @caffhuang!  

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