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<p>&quot;是个很普通就打赢了的&quot; is an adjectival phrase for &quot;对手&quot;</p>
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<p>是 - is (verb)</p>
<p>个 - a (classifier for the noun 对手)</p>
<p>很普通<strong>就</strong> (<strong>just</strong> easily) 打赢了(defeated)</p>
<p>的 (adjectival phrase marker)</p>
<p>对手- opponent [noun]</p>
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<p>就 here means &quot;<strong>just</strong>&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;打赢了的对手&quot; = &quot;defeated opponent&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;是个很普通(就)打赢了的对手&quot; = &quot;is (just) an easily defeated opponent&quot;</p>
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<p><em>'普通就' is short for '普通地打<strong>就</strong>' (<strong>just</strong> fight normally)</em></p>
<p>Other example of '就' functions as 'just':</p>
<p>一美元(就)卖了 = sold (just) for one dollar</p>

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Tang Ho
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<p>是个很普通就打赢了的对手哦</p>
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<p>Tang Ho's analysis is correct. Semantically, the sentence is saying &quot;<em>One is such an opponent or contestant that can be defeated by normal playing (versus playing hard)</em>&quot;. Put it another way: &quot;<em>I don't have to play hard to defeat him.</em>&quot;.</p>
<p>It is indeed a provocation if you say that in front of your contestants or their supporters. So, your analysis is more correct than your friend's.</p>

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dan
<p>I was reading an excerpt from a story, and I'm having a discussion with my friend over the correct way to parse this line said by a certain character, let's call him 1, about character 2.</p>
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<p>是个很普通就打赢了的对手哦</p>
</blockquote>
<p>2 overhears this and reacts angrily.</p>
<p>The difficulty stems from the target of 打赢了.</p>
<p>I believe the line would translate to something like this:</p>
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<p>It was very common to win against this opponent.</p>
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<p>My friend tells me it's more like:</p>
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<p>It's very common for this opponent to win.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>But if character 2 reacts angrily, isn't that a provocation? Which would mean mine makes sense in the context.
Any help with understanding the correct parsing will be awesome!</p>

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The correct way to parse "就打赢了" in 是个很普通就打赢了的对手哦?
# The correct way to parse "就打赢了" in 是个很普通就打赢了的对手哦?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-08-21)

I was reading an excerpt from a story, and I'm having a discussion with my friend over the correct way to parse this line said by a certain character, let's call him 1, about character 2.

> 是个很普通就打赢了的对手哦

2 overhears this and reacts angrily.

The difficulty stems from the target of 打赢了.

I believe the line would translate to something like this:

> It was very common to win against this opponent.

My friend tells me it's more like:

> It's very common for this opponent to win.

But if character 2 reacts angrily, isn't that a provocation? Which would mean mine makes sense in the context.
Any help with understanding the correct parsing will be awesome!

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2018-08-21. Score: 2

> "是个很普通就打赢了的" is an adjectival phrase for "对手"

是 - is (verb)

个 - a (classifier for the noun 对手)

很普通**就** (**just** easily) 打赢了(defeated)

的 (adjectival phrase marker)

对手- opponent [noun]

> 就 here means "**just**"
>
> "打赢了的对手" = "defeated opponent"
>
> "是个很普通(就)打赢了的对手" = "is (just) an easily defeated opponent"

*'普通就' is short for '普通地打**就**' (**just** fight normally)*

Other example of '就' functions as 'just':

一美元(就)卖了 = sold (just) for one dollar


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### Answer by username_2 on 2018-08-22. Score: 2

> 是个很普通就打赢了的对手哦

username_1's analysis is correct. Semantically, the sentence is saying "*One is such an opponent or contestant that can be defeated by normal playing (versus playing hard)*". Put it another way: "*I don't have to play hard to defeat him.*".

It is indeed a provocation if you say that in front of your contestants or their supporters. So, your analysis is more correct than your friend's.


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