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<p>I'm wondering why there's 会 used here.</p>
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<p>会 in here mean always. I'm always getting headaches.</p>
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<p>Would this sentence be correct? 我常常头疼</p>
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<p>Yes, it is correct</p>
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<p>Would this sentence be correct? 我头疼</p>
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<p>Yes, it is correct</p>
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<p>So would this sentence be correct? 我有头疼</p>
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<p>Incorrect. You can't use 有 in this sentences. If you want to use it, the correct should be 我刚刚有头疼</p>

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我有头疼 sounds like Guoyu tho (i.e. Taiwanese Mandarin) - not sure how grammatical it is considered.
Mou某
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头疼 in 我头疼 is a verb; 头疼 in 我有头疼 is a noun
Tang Ho
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我有头疼 is an English influence -- "I have a headache"
Wayne Cheah
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我有头疼 sounds weird to me
John Joe
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Yes, it's like saying 我有口渴
Wayne Cheah
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@TangHo 我头疼 is a verb ?
John Joe
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John Joe
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<p>最近我常常会莫名其妙的头疼</p>
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<p>With 会, it adds a bit <em><strong>certainty</strong></em>.  We can probably use &quot;<em><strong>would</strong></em>&quot; to interpret here. It's more <em><strong>perspective or subjective</strong></em>.</p>
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<p>最近我常常莫名其妙的头疼</p>
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<p>Without 会，the sentence states the fact that the headaches often occurred during these days. It's more <em><strong>factual</strong></em>.</p>
<p>However the nuance above is very subtle.  We can use them interchangeably in practice.  No one would care about it.</p>
<p>有头痛 sounds more like the universal 有 in Taiwanese dialect.  E. g.  你吃饭了吗？ 我有吃饭啊。</p>

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dan
<p>&quot;会&quot; in the sentence is an 助动词 (auxiliary verb), which means 表示有可能实现 (be possible to achieve). See the definition in <a href="https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E4%BC%9A/4676598" rel="nofollow noreferrer">百度百科</a>。例子：如果你考试题都会(known well)做，你就不会(possible to)头疼。</p>
<p>As you see, 会 implies uncertainty. So that see the following:</p>
<p>我头疼。Yes, you have headache, right now. By the way, this is actually 我(的)头疼 with 的 omitted.</p>
<p>我常常头疼。Yes, you have headache, always. By the way, this is actually 我常常(感到)头疼 with 感到 omitted.</p>
<p>我常常会头疼。This one is almost interchangeable with the previous one, but not as confident, because there is an implication of possibility. For example, &quot;Dad, 我头疼，不想写作业了&quot;，or &quot;Doctor, 我常常头疼，给我开药&quot;, or &quot;Whenever I saw the face of Mr. Trump, 我就常常会感到头疼&quot;。You see the difference? Because of the possibility, it is often used with other word implicating uncertainty. For example, 我的头常常会感到有些/若有似无的/莫名其妙的疼。It is pretty intuitive to compare &quot;会&quot; and &quot;不会&quot; with possible and impossible.</p>
<p>我有头疼 is awkwardly correct in grammar if you consider 头疼 as headache which is a noun. However, Chinese has some set structures, &quot;头疼&quot; is not something you can &quot;有&quot;。You should say you &quot;感到头疼&quot;, or you 有/患有 some &quot;病/症/疾&quot; instead. You can say, 我<strong>感到</strong>头疼/头晕/头胀，我有头疼<strong>的毛病</strong>，我有头痛<strong>之疾</strong>，我有<strong>痴呆</strong>症。Without the 感到 or 病/症/疾, those are not Chinese convention, though still understandable.</p>

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Frank Mi
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<p>There's no use trying to unlock the door, it <strong>will</strong> not open.</p>
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<p><em>will</em> here describes a objective present state (the door can't be opened), and <em>会</em> in your sentence acts exactly the same.<br />
According to <em>Xiandai Hanyu Cidian</em> (<em>现代汉语词典</em>, <em>Modern Chinese Dictionary</em>), &quot;头痛&quot; (or &quot;头疼&quot;) is an adjective, so I suppose that &quot;最近我常常会莫名其妙的头疼&quot; has left out a verb <strong>&quot;感到 (feel)&quot;</strong>. Its full form ought to be</p>
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<p>最近我常常会莫名其妙<em>地</em>感到头疼。</p>
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<p>(P.S. You should use <em>地</em> in this sentence instead of <em>的</em>, see <a href="https://www.omeidachinese.com/difference-%E7%9A%84-%E5%BE%97-%E5%9C%B0/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Differentating De</a>.)<br />
We usually do NOT use &quot;有 (have)&quot; for 头疼, for it's an adjective.</p>
<p>Common verbs for discomforts:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>感到 (feel)</strong>: Bad feelings or aches, eg. 头疼/头痛 (headache), 累/疲劳/疲惫/疲倦 (tired), 不舒服/难受 (uncomfortable), 精疲力竭 (be burned out)</li>
<li><strong>患了/患有 (have got, the latter is more formal)</strong>: Illnesses, eg. 感冒 (cold), 流感 (flu), 新冠肺炎 (COVID-19), 癌症 (cancer), 心脏病 (heart attack)</li>
<li><strong>For a illness that is both a noun and a verb, usually we use its verb form</strong>: Eg. 骨折 (bone fracture/to break a bone), 癫痫 (epilepsy/to have a epilepsy), 咳嗽 (cough/to cough)
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<li><strong>There are exceptions in which we use either form free of choice</strong>: Eg. 感冒 (cold/to catch a cold)</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>

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Leonel Hou
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<li><p>头疼 in 我头疼 is a verb</p>
</li>
<li><p>头疼 in 我有头疼 is a noun</p>
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<p>[最近][我][常常][会][莫名其妙(地/的)][头疼]</p>
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<p>[recently][I][often][would][mysteriously][having headache]</p>
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<p>&quot;莫名其妙(地/的)&quot; is an adverb, therefore &quot;头疼&quot; here is an intransitive verb</p>
<p>'会' means 'would'. You can omit it in this sentence</p>
<p>~</p>
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<p>[最近][我][常常][有][莫名其妙的)][头疼]</p>
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<p>[recently][I][often][have][mysterious][headache]</p>
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<p>'有' is a verb; '莫名其妙的' is an adjective phrase, therefore, 头疼 is a noun.</p>
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"头疼 in 我有头疼 is a noun" - are you sure? If I heard that I'd assume the speaker is Taiwanese and the 有 is Minnan dialect influence, with 头疼 remaining a verb.
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Tang Ho
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<p>最近我常常会莫名其妙的头疼</p>
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<p>I've encountered this sentence and I'm wondering why there's 会 used here. <strong>Would this sentence be correct without 会?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Would this sentence be correct?</strong> 我常常头疼</p>
<p><strong>Would this sentence be correct?</strong> 我头疼</p>
<p>I'm asking because my first thought about speaking about headache would be to use 有. So <strong>would this sentence be correct?</strong> 我有头疼</p>

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No, because grammatically, 我頭疼 translates to *My head hurts*, not *I have a headache*.
dROOOze
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Do you use 有 if you speak about 头疼?
# Do you use 有 if you speak about 头疼?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2020-11-13)

> 最近我常常会莫名其妙的头疼

I've encountered this sentence and I'm wondering why there's 会 used here. **Would this sentence be correct without 会?**

**Would this sentence be correct?** 我常常头疼

**Would this sentence be correct?** 我头疼

I'm asking because my first thought about speaking about headache would be to use 有. So **would this sentence be correct?** 我有头疼

**Tags:** verbs

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: No, because grammatically, 我頭疼 translates to *My head hurts*, not *I have a headache*.  

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## 5 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2020-11-13. Score: 2 | Accepted answer

> I'm wondering why there's 会 used here.

会 in here mean always. I'm always getting headaches.

> Would this sentence be correct? 我常常头疼

Yes, it is correct

> Would this sentence be correct? 我头疼

Yes, it is correct

> So would this sentence be correct? 我有头疼

Incorrect. You can't use 有 in this sentences. If you want to use it, the correct should be 我刚刚有头疼

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: 我有头疼 sounds like Guoyu tho (i.e. Taiwanese Mandarin) - not sure how grammatical it is considered.  
> **username_4**: 头疼 in 我头疼 is a verb; 头疼 in 我有头疼 is a noun  
> **username_5**: 我有头疼 is an English influence -- "I have a headache"  
> **username_2**: 我有头疼 sounds weird to me  
> **username_5**: Yes, it's like saying 我有口渴  
> **username_2**: @TangHo 我头疼 is a verb ?  

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### Answer by username_6 on 2020-11-15. Score: 1

> 最近我常常会莫名其妙的头疼

With 会, it adds a bit ***certainty***. We can probably use "***would***" to interpret here. It's more ***perspective or subjective***.

> > 最近我常常莫名其妙的头疼

Without 会，the sentence states the fact that the headaches often occurred during these days. It's more ***factual***.

However the nuance above is very subtle. We can use them interchangeably in practice. No one would care about it.

有头痛 sounds more like the universal 有 in Taiwanese dialect. E. g. 你吃饭了吗？ 我有吃饭啊。


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### Answer by username_7 on 2020-11-14. Score: 1

"会" in the sentence is an 助动词 (auxiliary verb), which means 表示有可能实现 (be possible to achieve). See the definition in [百度百科](https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E4%BC%9A/4676598)。例子：如果你考试题都会(known well)做，你就不会(possible to)头疼。

As you see, 会 implies uncertainty. So that see the following:

我头疼。Yes, you have headache, right now. By the way, this is actually 我(的)头疼 with 的 omitted.

我常常头疼。Yes, you have headache, always. By the way, this is actually 我常常(感到)头疼 with 感到 omitted.

我常常会头疼。This one is almost interchangeable with the previous one, but not as confident, because there is an implication of possibility. For example, "Dad, 我头疼，不想写作业了"，or "Doctor, 我常常头疼，给我开药", or "Whenever I saw the face of Mr. Trump, 我就常常会感到头疼"。You see the difference? Because of the possibility, it is often used with other word implicating uncertainty. For example, 我的头常常会感到有些/若有似无的/莫名其妙的疼。It is pretty intuitive to compare "会" and "不会" with possible and impossible.

我有头疼 is awkwardly correct in grammar if you consider 头疼 as headache which is a noun. However, Chinese has some set structures, "头疼" is not something you can "有"。You should say you "感到头疼", or you 有/患有 some "病/症/疾" instead. You can say, 我**感到**头疼/头晕/头胀，我有头疼**的毛病**，我有头痛**之疾**，我有**痴呆**症。Without the 感到 or 病/症/疾, those are not Chinese convention, though still understandable.


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### Answer by username_8 on 2020-11-14. Score: 1

> There's no use trying to unlock the door, it **will** not open.

*will* here describes a objective present state (the door can't be opened), and *会* in your sentence acts exactly the same.  
According to *Xiandai Hanyu Cidian* (*现代汉语词典*, *Modern Chinese Dictionary*), "头痛" (or "头疼") is an adjective, so I suppose that "最近我常常会莫名其妙的头疼" has left out a verb **"感到 (feel)"**. Its full form ought to be

> 最近我常常会莫名其妙*地*感到头疼。

(P.S. You should use *地* in this sentence instead of *的*, see [Differentating De](https://www.omeidachinese.com/difference-%E7%9A%84-%E5%BE%97-%E5%9C%B0/).)  
We usually do NOT use "有 (have)" for 头疼, for it's an adjective.

Common verbs for discomforts:

* **感到 (feel)**: Bad feelings or aches, eg. 头疼/头痛 (headache), 累/疲劳/疲惫/疲倦 (tired), 不舒服/难受 (uncomfortable), 精疲力竭 (be burned out)
* **患了/患有 (have got, the latter is more formal)**: Illnesses, eg. 感冒 (cold), 流感 (flu), 新冠肺炎 (COVID-19), 癌症 (cancer), 心脏病 (heart attack)
* **For a illness that is both a noun and a verb, usually we use its verb form**: Eg. 骨折 (bone fracture/to break a bone), 癫痫 (epilepsy/to have a epilepsy), 咳嗽 (cough/to cough)
  + **There are exceptions in which we use either form free of choice**: Eg. 感冒 (cold/to catch a cold)


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### Answer by username_4 on 2020-11-13. Score: 1

* 头疼 in 我头疼 is a verb
* 头疼 in 我有头疼 is a noun

> [最近][我][常常][会][莫名其妙(地/的)][头疼]

> [recently][I][often][would][mysteriously][having headache]

"莫名其妙(地/的)" is an adverb, therefore "头疼" here is an intransitive verb

'会' means 'would'. You can omit it in this sentence

~

> [最近][我][常常][有][莫名其妙的)][头疼]

> [recently][I][often][have][mysterious][headache]

> '有' is a verb; '莫名其妙的' is an adjective phrase, therefore, 头疼 is a noun.

> **Comments:**
> **username_9**: "头疼 in 我有头疼 is a noun" - are you sure? If I heard that I'd assume the speaker is Taiwanese and the 有 is Minnan dialect influence, with 头疼 remaining a verb.  

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