<p>It's hard to gather a euphemism for Degen Gambler in Chinese. No best words/phrases I figure. 职业扑克玩家 (Professional Pokerist) is the best one I can get. </p>

<p>hope this help.</p>

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dan
<p><strong>赌棍</strong> is the best you're gonna get.</p>
<p>There are very few translations of <em>DGEN</em> -or- <em>Degen</em>. The only one I came across was on <a href="http://www.pokerren.com/a/56" rel="nofollow noreferrer">扑克人</a> which says:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><strong>堕落故事</strong></p>
<p>译注：原帖标题为“Degen Stories”。Degen是Degenrate的缩写，意思是“堕落的”、“落魄的”、“穷困潦倒的”。Degen Stories差不多就是“很衰的事情”、“很背的事情”的意思（还有一点no zuo no die的味道）。</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Degen here is translated as:</p>
<ul>
<li><p>堕落 = worsening of morals</p>
</li>
<li><p>落魄 = to be down on one's luck</p>
</li>
<li><p>穷困潦倒 = to be down and out</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p>These are all quite negative and mean exactly what you didn't want them to mean: <strong>degenerate</strong>.</p>
<p>The negative meaning of <em>DGEN</em> -or- <em>Degen</em> does seem to be pretty overwhelming in English as well, but obviously not exclusively, so our above translations are all out.</p>
<p>CC-CEDICT translates <strong><a href="https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?page=worddict&amp;wdrst=0&amp;wdqb=%E8%B5%8C%E6%A3%8D" rel="nofollow noreferrer">赌棍</a></strong> as:</p>
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<p>1 hardened gambler</p>
<p>2 professional gambler</p>
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<p><strong>现代汉语大词典</strong> says:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>沉溺于赌博，并以此为生的人</p>
</blockquote>
<p>which very roughly translates as <em>an obsessive gambler, who does it for a living</em>.</p>
<p>But it can also refer to any obsessive gambler in general.</p>
<p>I think this is the closest you'll get for what you want to express.</p>
<p><strong>赌徒</strong> could also work but this is more of a derogatory term for a <em>hobby</em> gambler.</p>
<p><strong>赌神</strong> could also work, borrowing from the movie, a word that literally means <em>gambling god</em> but could refer to anyone who is masterful at gambling.</p>

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Well, 赌棍 does not appear positive at all. 赌棍 sounds even a bit worse than 赌徒.
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<blockquote>
  <p>Definition of 'Degen Gambler'</p>
  
  <p><a href="http://pokerterms.com/degenerate.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http://pokerterms.com/degenerate.html</a></p>
  
  <p><em>A personality type, common amongst poker players, that is typified by an abundance of self-destructive behavior.</em></p>
  
  <p><em>Common Degen Habits</em></p>
  
  <p><em>There are a variety of "degenerate behavior" patterns that poker players have been known to embrace. They include, but are not limited to:</em></p>
  
  <ul>
  <li><p><em>Pit gambling</em></p></li>
  <li><p><em>Drug use</em></p></li>
  <li><p><em>Excessive spending</em></p></li>
  <li><p><em>Sports betting</em></p></li>
  <li><p><em>Hookers and strippers</em></p></li>
  </ul>
</blockquote>

<p>I would translate Degen Gambler as <strong>病態賭徒</strong> (sick/ symptomatic gambler)</p>

<p>'Degen' stands for 'degenerate'</p>

<p>The thing that is degenerating in a degen Gambler is his mental health, which causes all kinds of symptoms in the forms of destructive behaviors.</p>

<p>When someone's mental health degenerates to a certain point, his behaviors will become symptomatic of that mental illness.</p>

<p>When we say someone is a 病態賭徒, it means gambling has took over of his life, and he is on the path of self destruct. At this point, he really need professional help from psychology doctor.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Matt Douhan wrote:</p>
  
  <p><em>This phrase is usually used not in a bad way by pro gamblers who considers themselves or others DGEN/Degen gamblers as they thrive and live on gambling.</em></p>
</blockquote>

<p>Obviously a professional gambler would not consider himself sick. A professional gambler calling himself 'degen gambler' or 'sick gambler' (病態賭徒) is akin to a scientist calling himself 'mad scientist' (瘋狂科學家) to express how devoted he is to his endeavor.</p>

<p>A professional gambler may consider his devotion to gambling is so deep, it qualifies as a sickness-- 'sick gambler' (病態賭徒). </p>

<p>Borrowing the mad scientist example, 'degen gambler' may even be translated as '<strong>瘋狂玩家</strong>' (mad player)</p>

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I understand that degenerate part but amongst pro gamblers like myself we don't consider degen to be such a negative meaning as the word itself implies meaning degen is almost a positive version of degenerate
Matt Douhan
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See the  comment I added at the bottom of my post.
Tang Ho
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I see the update to your answer but how to reflect that in Chinese characters translation ?
Matt Douhan
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A professional  gambler may consider his devotion to gambling is so deep, it qualifies as a sickness-- 'sick gambler' (病態賭徒)
Tang Ho
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looks like we need create one :)
dan
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<p>What is the Chinese term for a DGEN gambler or a Degen Gambler, this phrase is usually used not in a bad way by pro gamblers who considers themselves or others DGEN/Degen gamblers as they thrive and live on gambling.</p>

<p>How would this be translated into Chinese in a way that it does not mean Degenerate which is considered a very bad word in itself.</p>

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What is the Chinese term for a DGEN or Degen Gambler
# What is the Chinese term for a DGEN or Degen Gambler

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-08-16)

What is the Chinese term for a DGEN gambler or a Degen Gambler, this phrase is usually used not in a bad way by pro gamblers who considers themselves or others DGEN/Degen gamblers as they thrive and live on gambling.

How would this be translated into Chinese in a way that it does not mean Degenerate which is considered a very bad word in itself.

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### Answer by username_1 on 2017-08-16. Score: 1

It's hard to gather a euphemism for Degen Gambler in Chinese. No best words/phrases I figure. 职业扑克玩家 (Professional Pokerist) is the best one I can get.

hope this help.


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### Answer by username_2 on 2017-08-16. Score: 1

**赌棍** is the best you're gonna get.

There are very few translations of *DGEN* -or- *Degen*. The only one I came across was on [扑克人](http://www.pokerren.com/a/56) which says:

> **堕落故事**
>
> 译注：原帖标题为“Degen Stories”。Degen是Degenrate的缩写，意思是“堕落的”、“落魄的”、“穷困潦倒的”。Degen Stories差不多就是“很衰的事情”、“很背的事情”的意思（还有一点no zuo no die的味道）。

Degen here is translated as:

* 堕落 = worsening of morals
* 落魄 = to be down on one's luck
* 穷困潦倒 = to be down and out

These are all quite negative and mean exactly what you didn't want them to mean: **degenerate**.

The negative meaning of *DGEN* -or- *Degen* does seem to be pretty overwhelming in English as well, but obviously not exclusively, so our above translations are all out.

CC-CEDICT translates **[赌棍](https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?page=worddict&wdrst=0&wdqb=%E8%B5%8C%E6%A3%8D)** as:

> 1 hardened gambler
>
> 2 professional gambler

**现代汉语大词典** says:

> 沉溺于赌博，并以此为生的人

which very roughly translates as *an obsessive gambler, who does it for a living*.

But it can also refer to any obsessive gambler in general.

I think this is the closest you'll get for what you want to express.

**赌徒** could also work but this is more of a derogatory term for a *hobby* gambler.

**赌神** could also work, borrowing from the movie, a word that literally means *gambling god* but could refer to anyone who is masterful at gambling.

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Well, 赌棍 does not appear positive at all. 赌棍 sounds even a bit worse than 赌徒.  

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### Answer by username_3 on 2017-08-16. Score: 1

> Definition of 'Degen Gambler'
>
> <http://pokerterms.com/degenerate.html>
>
> *A personality type, common amongst poker players, that is typified by an abunusername_1ce of self-destructive behavior.*
>
> *Common Degen Habits*
>
> *There are a variety of "degenerate behavior" patterns that poker players have been known to embrace. They include, but are not limited to:*
>
> * *Pit gambling*
> * *Drug use*
> * *Excessive spending*
> * *Sports betting*
> * *Hookers and strippers*

I would translate Degen Gambler as **病態賭徒** (sick/ symptomatic gambler)

'Degen' stands for 'degenerate'

The thing that is degenerating in a degen Gambler is his mental health, which causes all kinds of symptoms in the forms of destructive behaviors.

When someone's mental health degenerates to a certain point, his behaviors will become symptomatic of that mental illness.

When we say someone is a 病態賭徒, it means gambling has took over of his life, and he is on the path of self destruct. At this point, he really need professional help from psychology doctor.

> username_0 wrote:
>
> *This phrase is usually used not in a bad way by pro gamblers who considers themselves or others DGEN/Degen gamblers as they thrive and live on gambling.*

Obviously a professional gambler would not consider himself sick. A professional gambler calling himself 'degen gambler' or 'sick gambler' (病態賭徒) is akin to a scientist calling himself 'mad scientist' (瘋狂科學家) to express how devoted he is to his endeavor.

A professional gambler may consider his devotion to gambling is so deep, it qualifies as a sickness-- 'sick gambler' (病態賭徒).

Borrowing the mad scientist example, 'degen gambler' may even be translated as '**瘋狂玩家**' (mad player)

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: I understand that degenerate part but amongst pro gamblers like myself we don't consider degen to be such a negative meaning as the word itself implies meaning degen is almost a positive version of degenerate  
> **username_3**: See the  comment I added at the bottom of my post.  
> **username_0**: I see the update to your answer but how to reflect that in Chinese characters translation ?  
> **username_3**: A professional  gambler may consider his devotion to gambling is so deep, it qualifies as a sickness-- 'sick gambler' (病態賭徒)  
> **username_1**: looks like we need create one :)  

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