<p>Craft 4 will be released in Q1 2022 with a stable release coming in Q2.</p>
<p><a href="https://craftquest.io/dotall#state-of-craft" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://craftquest.io/dotall#state-of-craft</a></p>

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2021-10-21T18:37:52.270Z
2021-10-21T18:37:52.270Z
Augustine Calvino
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  <p>1) Is there anything to say about a release date for Craft 4? And about around what time Pixel and Tonic consider it a stable release to be used in production?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Nothing official on either.</p>

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  <p>2) What will happen to the support and updates for Craft 3 once Craft 4 is out? Is there any roadmap showing support/update-cycles for Pixel and Tonic products?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>No official dates yet, but you can probably use past support timelines (<a href="https://craftcms.com/guides/supported-versions" rel="noreferrer">https://craftcms.com/guides/supported-versions</a>) as a guide to what Craft 3 support would be once Craft 4 is out.</p>

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  <p>3) Will Craft 3 work with the announced Craft Cloud or will the cloud only work from version 4 up?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Nothing officially announced.</p>

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  <p>4) Is there anything to say about how difficult it will likely be to migrate from v3 to v4 and what that would be about?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>We'll try to make the 3 => 4 migration as seamless as possible.</p>

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  <p>5) What about existing paid licenses when a customer upgrades from version 3 to 4? Is it under the same license after the upgrade? Or are licenses bound to a major version and need a customer buy a new license for version 4?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The licensing model should be exactly how it is for Craft 3.</p>

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2020-04-23T07:40:45.580Z
Thanks for your answer and link to the support timelines @Brad Bell. I was hoping you could tell something about around what about time a release would be expected, but I understand you don't want to make promises and it's probably too early for that. So that's also an answer to my question. I'll probably stick with Craft 3 for now than as otherwise it would be a long wait, and upgrade/migrate to 4 later. Thanks again
Friksel
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2020-04-22T03:39:26.750Z
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Brad Bell
<p>Being busy rethinking an existing website to rebuild in Craft I just found out Craft 4 was announced september last year. Some of the new features, like nestable Matrix fields in particular, are very welcome and chances are I'd rather wait for Craft 4 to come out to convert a big amount of data to the new CMS than to rebuild the website in Craft 3 to have another data-migration(/rebuild?) for new fields etc. in Craft 4 later.</p>

<p>So I'm having the following questions:</p>

<p>1) Is there anything to say about a release date for Craft 4? And about around what time Pixel and Tonic consider it a stable release to be used in production?</p>

<p>2) What will happen to the support and updates for Craft 3 once Craft 4 is out? Is there any roadmap showing support/update-cycles for Pixel and Tonic products?</p>

<p>3) Will Craft 3 work with the announced Craft Cloud or will the cloud only work from version 4 up?</p>

<p>4) Is there anything to say about how difficult it will likely be to migrate from v3 to v4 and what that would be about?</p>

<p>5) What about existing paid licenses when a customer upgrades from version 3 to 4? Is it under the same license after the upgrade? Or are licenses bound to a major version and need a customer buy a new license for version 4?</p>

<p>Thanks in advance!</p>

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Questions about Craft 4 release and licenses
# Questions about Craft 4 release and licenses

(Asked by: username_0 on 2020-04-20)

Being busy rethinking an existing website to rebuild in Craft I just found out Craft 4 was announced september last year. Some of the new features, like nestable Matrix fields in particular, are very welcome and chances are I'd rather wait for Craft 4 to come out to convert a big amount of data to the new CMS than to rebuild the website in Craft 3 to have another data-migration(/rebuild?) for new fields etc. in Craft 4 later.

So I'm having the following questions:

1) Is there anything to say about a release date for Craft 4? And about around what time Pixel and Tonic consider it a stable release to be used in production?

2) What will happen to the support and updates for Craft 3 once Craft 4 is out? Is there any roadmap showing support/update-cycles for Pixel and Tonic products?

3) Will Craft 3 work with the announced Craft Cloud or will the cloud only work from version 4 up?

4) Is there anything to say about how difficult it will likely be to migrate from v3 to v4 and what that would be about?

5) What about existing paid licenses when a customer upgrades from version 3 to 4? Is it under the same license after the upgrade? Or are licenses bound to a major version and need a customer buy a new license for version 4?

Thanks in advance!

**Tags:** license, upgrades, craft4


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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2020-04-22. Score: 5 | Accepted answer

> 1) Is there anything to say about a release date for Craft 4? And about around what time Pixel and Tonic consider it a stable release to be used in production?

Nothing official on either.

> 2) What will happen to the support and updates for Craft 3 once Craft 4 is out? Is there any roadmap showing support/update-cycles for Pixel and Tonic products?

No official dates yet, but you can probably use past support timelines (<https://craftcms.com/guides/supported-versions>) as a guide to what Craft 3 support would be once Craft 4 is out.

> 3) Will Craft 3 work with the announced Craft Cloud or will the cloud only work from version 4 up?

Nothing officially announced.

> 4) Is there anything to say about how difficult it will likely be to migrate from v3 to v4 and what that would be about?

We'll try to make the 3 => 4 migration as seamless as possible.

> 5) What about existing paid licenses when a customer upgrades from version 3 to 4? Is it under the same license after the upgrade? Or are licenses bound to a major version and need a customer buy a new license for version 4?

The licensing model should be exactly how it is for Craft 3.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Thanks for your answer and link to the support timelines @username_2. I was hoping you could tell something about around what about time a release would be expected, but I understand you don't want to make promises and it's probably too early for that. So that's also an answer to my question. I'll probably stick with Craft 3 for now than as otherwise it would be a long wait, and upgrade/migrate to 4 later. Thanks again  

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### Answer by username_1 on 2021-10-21. Score: 2

Craft 4 will be released in Q1 2022 with a stable release coming in Q2.

<https://craftquest.io/dotall#state-of-craft>


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