<p>I think its more or less like the diversity of US english and UK english.<br/><br/>
The grammar of Chinese language is almost the same, sometimes you can not find significant difference of using Chinese language between official speech from PRC and Taiwan.<br/><br/>
When it come closer to daily life, the diversity of language will become bigger and significant. That's because the locale and culture development are different for more than 50 years, the vocabularies involved for daily speaking is different.<br/><br/>
But as I know, it's just like the language diversity in different area of the same base culture, people from PRC and Taiwan can communicate to each other, but when they get into more detailed and localized topics, more explanation of vocabulary will be needed.</p>

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Zeal Lin
<p>Actually, until around the 1990s, the spoken language in official sources were very similar.</p>

<p>Famous singers like Teresa Teng spoke pretty much like people from China nowadays. Here's an example of an interviewee from those earlier days: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWEcZvhfnzA&amp;hd=1" rel="noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWEcZvhfnzA&amp;hd=1</a> (There's a great quote about how Teresa Teng's songs brought comfort for those miserable mainlanders!). There's a lot more stuff from those earlier days you can search via youtube.</p>

<p>There are a couple of important factors as to why they diverged.
1) The northern parts of Taiwan are its political/economic center and early on home to most of the refugees from Mainland China. Because of this, they strongly emphasized standard Mandarin as a sign of status/power etc. However, on the other hand, southern Taiwan has always been home to Chinese variants different from the mainland due to the influence of the people who were there before the KMT came to power.</p>

<p>2) Until the 1990s, the KMT strongly enforced a 国语运动 (presumably the 国语 back then was similar to how mainland Chinese is now). This meant if you were at school, in public, in meeting involving more than 3 people and you were found to be using a (<em>gasp</em>) non-国语 language, you would be heavily punished (3000-10000 元).  (Here's wikipedia on this: <a href="http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-cn/%E5%9C%8B%E8%AA%9E%E9%81%8B%E5%8B%95" rel="noreferrer">http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-cn/%E5%9C%8B%E8%AA%9E%E9%81%8B%E5%8B%95</a>)</p>

<p>3) In the 1990s the DPP started to gain traction in south. They advocated a Taiwanization movement. They wanted to have a Taiwan distinct from China. This meant no more 国语运动 and allowing for more of the Chinese variants.</p>

<p>In summary, I would say that Taiwanese variant of Chinese has always had some amount of difference from the mainland. However, because of various political reasons, those variants were never heard publicly. In some aspects, they were suppressed. But with the rise of a more tolerant government and the Taiwanization movement, Taiwan wanted to carve out a distinct variant of 国语, and thus we now have quite a big difference between the mainland and Taiwan.</p>

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At the end of the interview you linked  is she saying 這位兩位先生  - with double classifier?
Ludi
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Ringil
<p>Many have compared the differences in standard (news broadcaster) accents in of Taiwan 國語 and PRC 普通话 to the differences in British and American accents.  What linguistic factors have contributed to the divergence in these accents (particularly, what has caused Taiwanese-accented Mandarin to sound noticeably different) and when did this divergence become noticeable?  Did the divergence begin/accelerate following gradual relaxation of KMT rule in Taiwan in the 1980s?</p>

<p>Some clarifying points to hopefully save this question from being closed as too broad:</p>

<ul>
<li><p>I am focusing on "standard" speech of CCTV/NTBS news anchors - which doesn't differ as much within either country (i.e., the speech of any two news anchors within either PRC or Taiwan will not diverge as much as the speech of any two people in the larger populations), yet is is notably different between either country (i.e., the speech of a news anchor from PRC and another news anchor from Taiwan will consistently diverge, likely in predictable ways).  The difference is particularly obvious when CCTV4, for example, includes snippets from Taiwanese news outlets narrated in speech that differs markedly from that of the PRC anchors.  A stab at cross-strait comity that ironically brings to mind the gap.</p></li>
<li><p>My interest is that since KMT pushed 國語 repressed use of 台语 as part of a political agenda following their retreat to Taiwan, one would think that they would have used news broadcast speech as a tool to advance this political agenda, in a similar way as the PRC does now (in the PRC case, perhaps more a desire for linguistic unification than oppression, per se).  Given the origin of KMT from Mainland (admittedly, many parts of Mainland), I would like to know whether the speech Taiwan news anchors of 40-50 years ago is (a) markedly different from the speech of modern Taiwan news anchors ; (b) if so, was it more similar then to the speech of modern PRC news anchors ; (c) if so, when did the divergence begin. </p></li>
<li><p>One alternate possibility to a growing divergence over time wrt news anchor speech is that from the beginning, in Taiwan, the KMT came up with a different conception of what standard 国语 should sound like, and that standard, enforced from the getgo, was already divergent from what is currently spoken by news anchors in the Mainland.  </p></li>
</ul>

<p>I was simply not around when all of this was/not taking place, so am curious to hear from folks who were.</p>

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Divergence exists even in different regions of PRC.
Henry HO
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Sorry, I flagged to close this question as too broad although I do like the question (I don't have enough rep yet to vote to close). Your question is broad enough to write a PhD thesis, if not a thick book. There are too many examples of the difference. I would suggest you to pick some examples and then ask each one. They could be interesting questions.
Nobody
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yeah, tried to narrow it down somewhat by focusing on speech of news broadcasters- which doesn't diverge as much within either country , yet is is notably different between either country
Master Sparkles
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This is an excellent question. No need to close it.
Mou某
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I  deleted my answer.Finally,I could stop doing this ,and focus on my business and shit.
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How Recent Is the Divergence In Taiwan- and PRC-Accented Mandarin Speech?
# How Recent Is the Divergence In Taiwan- and PRC-Accented Mandarin Speech?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2015-05-03)

Many have compared the differences in standard (news broadcaster) accents in of Taiwan 國語 and PRC 普通话 to the differences in British and American accents. What linguistic factors have contributed to the divergence in these accents (particularly, what has caused Taiwanese-accented Mandarin to sound noticeably different) and when did this divergence become noticeable? Did the divergence begin/accelerate following gradual relaxation of KMT rule in Taiwan in the 1980s?

Some clarifying points to hopefully save this question from being closed as too broad:

* I am focusing on "standard" speech of CCTV/NTBS news anchors - which doesn't differ as much within either country (i.e., the speech of any two news anchors within either PRC or Taiwan will not diverge as much as the speech of any two people in the larger populations), yet is is notably different between either country (i.e., the speech of a news anchor from PRC and another news anchor from Taiwan will consistently diverge, likely in predictable ways). The difference is particularly obvious when CCTV4, for example, includes snippets from Taiwanese news outlets narrated in speech that differs markedly from that of the PRC anchors. A stab at cross-strait comity that ironically brings to mind the gap.
* My interest is that since KMT pushed 國語 repressed use of 台语 as part of a political agenda following their retreat to Taiwan, one would think that they would have used news broadcast speech as a tool to advance this political agenda, in a similar way as the PRC does now (in the PRC case, perhaps more a desire for linguistic unification than oppression, per se). Given the origin of KMT from Mainland (admittedly, many parts of Mainland), I would like to know whether the speech Taiwan news anchors of 40-50 years ago is (a) markedly different from the speech of modern Taiwan news anchors ; (b) if so, was it more similar then to the speech of modern PRC news anchors ; (c) if so, when did the divergence begin.
* One alternate possibility to a growing divergence over time wrt news anchor speech is that from the beginning, in Taiwan, the KMT came up with a different conception of what standard 国语 should sound like, and that standard, enforced from the getgo, was already divergent from what is currently spoken by news anchors in the Mainland.

I was simply not around when all of this was/not taking place, so am curious to hear from folks who were.

**Tags:** mandarin, taiwan

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Divergence exists even in different regions of PRC.  
> **username_2**: Sorry, I flagged to close this question as too broad although I do like the question (I don't have enough rep yet to vote to close). Your question is broad enough to write a PhD thesis, if not a thick book. There are too many examples of the difference. I would suggest you to pick some examples and then ask each one. They could be interesting questions.  
> **username_0**: yeah, tried to narrow it down somewhat by focusing on speech of news broadcasters- which doesn't diverge as much within either country , yet is is notably different between either country  
> **username_3**: This is an excellent question. No need to close it.  
> **username_4**: I  deleted my answer.Finally,I could stop doing this ,and focus on my business and shit.  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_6 on 2015-05-10. Score: 5 | Accepted answer

Actually, until around the 1990s, the spoken language in official sources were very similar.

Famous singers like Teresa Teng spoke pretty much like people from China nowadays. Here's an example of an interviewee from those earlier days: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWEcZvhfnzA&hd=1> (There's a great quote about how Teresa Teng's songs brought comfort for those miserable mainlanders!). There's a lot more stuff from those earlier days you can search via youtube.

There are a couple of important factors as to why they diverged.
1) The northern parts of Taiwan are its political/economic center and early on home to most of the refugees from Mainland China. Because of this, they strongly emphasized standard Mandarin as a sign of status/power etc. However, on the other hand, southern Taiwan has always been home to Chinese variants different from the mainland due to the influence of the people who were there before the KMT came to power.

2) Until the 1990s, the KMT strongly enforced a 国语运动 (presumably the 国语 back then was similar to how mainland Chinese is now). This meant if you were at school, in public, in meeting involving more than 3 people and you were found to be using a (*gasp*) non-国语 language, you would be heavily punished (3000-10000 元). (Here's wikipedia on this: <http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-cn/%E5%9C%8B%E8%AA%9E%E9%81%8B%E5%8B%95>)

3) In the 1990s the DPP started to gain traction in south. They advocated a Taiwanization movement. They wanted to have a Taiwan distinct from China. This meant no more 国语运动 and allowing for more of the Chinese variants.

In summary, I would say that Taiwanese variant of Chinese has always had some amount of difference from the mainland. However, because of various political reasons, those variants were never heard publicly. In some aspects, they were suppressed. But with the rise of a more tolerant government and the Taiwanization movement, Taiwan wanted to carve out a distinct variant of 国语, and thus we now have quite a big difference between the mainland and Taiwan.

> **Comments:**
> **username_7**: At the end of the interview you linked  is she saying 這位兩位先生  - with double classifier?  

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### Answer by username_5 on 2015-05-06. Score: 0

I think its more or less like the diversity of US english and UK english.  
  
The grammar of Chinese language is almost the same, sometimes you can not find significant difference of using Chinese language between official speech from PRC and Taiwan.  
  
When it come closer to daily life, the diversity of language will become bigger and significant. That's because the locale and culture development are different for more than 50 years, the vocabularies involved for daily speaking is different.  
  
But as I know, it's just like the language diversity in different area of the same base culture, people from PRC and Taiwan can communicate to each other, but when they get into more detailed and localized topics, more explanation of vocabulary will be needed.


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