<p>The article is exaggerating the sound change for humorous effect.</p>
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<li>驾驶 would easily get elided into something like <strong>jiàr</strong> in fast speech, but it would never become nasalized to jiàng.</li>
<li>证 would indeed become <strong>zhèngr</strong> (which is pronounced like a nasalized zhèr) due to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhua" rel="nofollow noreferrer">儿化音</a>, but it would never undergo the tone and vowel change to become zhīr.</li>
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<p>I was reading this website ( <a href="https://pinyin.sogou.com/zimeiti/article/1255" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://pinyin.sogou.com/zimeiti/article/1255</a> ) to understand colloquial Beijing Mandarin and came across this pronunciation for 驾驶证</p>

<p>驾驶证 > "酱汁儿", i.e Jiàshǐ zhèng > jiàng zhī er</p>

<p>How should I understand these changes?</p>

<p>Is it something like 驾驶证儿, with shi disappearing in the middle (jia > jiang, shi> 0, zhengr > zhir), or is it 驾驶证 with shi becoming zhi and zheng becoming r (jia > jiang, shi> zhi, zheng > r)? I know ch, sh, and zh become r a lot but I also know whole syllables can disappear. </p>

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How should I understand the pronunciation of 驾驶证 (jiàshǐ zhèng) as 酱汁儿 (jiàng zhī er)?
# How should I understand the pronunciation of 驾驶证 (jiàshǐ zhèng) as 酱汁儿 (jiàng zhī er)?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2020-04-13)

I was reading this website ( <https://pinyin.sogou.com/zimeiti/article/1255> ) to understand colloquial Beijing Mandarin and came across this pronunciation for 驾驶证

驾驶证 > "酱汁儿", i.e Jiàshǐ zhèng > jiàng zhī er

How should I understand these changes?

Is it something like 驾驶证儿, with shi disappearing in the middle (jia > jiang, shi> 0, zhengr > zhir), or is it 驾驶证 with shi becoming zhi and zheng becoming r (jia > jiang, shi> zhi, zheng > r)? I know ch, sh, and zh become r a lot but I also know whole syllables can disappear.

**Tags:** pronunciation, topolect, erhuayin


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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2020-07-20. Score: 2

The article is exaggerating the sound change for humorous effect.

* 驾驶 would easily get elided into something like **jiàr** in fast speech, but it would never become nasalized to jiàng.
* 证 would indeed become **zhèngr** (which is pronounced like a nasalized zhèr) due to [儿化音](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhua), but it would never undergo the tone and vowel change to become zhīr.


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