<p><strong>ABC</strong></p>
<blockquote>
<p>所</p>
<p>CONS.</p>
<p>1 ~ V de that which</p>
<p>我所说的（话）</p>
<p>what I said</p>
</blockquote>
<p>So if we want to get into semantics I think that 我所说的 would be better put as: <code>the things that I said</code>, especially looking at ABC's definition.</p>
<p>Like you said, taking away 所 would still be valid: 我说的 but that would just be the difference between <code>what I said</code> (我说的) and <code>the things that I said</code> (我所说的).</p>
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<p>Now coming back to <strong>据你所说</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>ABC</strong></p>
<blockquote>
<p>据</p>
<p>CONV.</p>
<p>according to; on the grounds of</p>
<p>据他说...</p>
<p>According to him...</p>
</blockquote>
<p>but if we add 所: <code>据他所说的</code> now becomes: <code>according to what he said</code>.</p>

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Mou某
<p>正如我们之前(说)= Just as we (said) previously- 说 is a verb here</p>

<p>正如我们之前(所说)= Just as (the words) we (said ) previously</p>

<p>"我们所说" is short for "我们(<strong>所</strong>)说的話" = "the words (<strong>that</strong>) we said" </p>

<p>therefore, "我们所说(的話)" is a noun</p>

<p><em>When you say "正如我们之前(说)" you have to follow it with a quote of what was said</em></p>

<p><em>When you say "正如我们之前(所说)" you can follow it with a quote of what was said or omit it and presume it is known</em></p>

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Tang Ho
<p><code>所x</code> is referring to the object of the verb <code>x</code>, and makes the phrase nominal.</p>

<p>e.g.:</p>

<ul>
<li>所见 what we see</li>
<li>所言/所说 what we say</li>
<li>所闻 what we hear</li>
<li>所想 what we think</li>
<li>日有所思，夜有所梦 what you thinking in the day is what you dreaming in the night</li>
</ul>

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<p>＂汉语８００虚词用法词典＂所二，用在做定语主谓词组的动词前面，表示中心词是受事 used before the verb in a subject-predicate structure to make it passive (applies to #1)所＋动词／动词词组＋的＋名词／名词词组（１）我所认识的人中没有叫彼得的。（２）我把自己所想到的几个问题都说了，希望大家商量一下，看怎么解决。（３）我们所提的意见和建议不一定对，希望领导考虑吧。（４）现在，大学生们所关心的问题主要是毕业以后就业问题。（５）现在群众所关心、所议论的热点问题还是教育改革、医疗改革和住房改革问题。（６）一些留学生给学校领导所提的这些意见和建议，学校领导一定会认真研究，然后给大家一个满意的答复。四、用在动词前面，跟动词组成体词结构used before the verb to form a substantive structure (applies to #2) 1.所＋单音节动词（１）来了四五个学生，我包了一百多个饺子差不多都吃完了，所剩无几。（２）今天是自助餐，大家随便吃，各取所需（３）所说那里不错，我们就去了，结果大失所望（bkrs:greatly disappointed）。（４）传说这首诗为大诗人李白所作，其实不是。（５）随着经济改革的成功，政治改革就是大势所趋，人心所向（６）看人不能只看他怎么说，还要看他怎么做，从一个人的所作所为，就能看出他到底是个什么样的人。（７）如这篇文章所说，一个人做点儿好事并不难，难的是一辈子做好事，不做坏事。（８）他视金钱如粪土，你说做官是受苦，真是英雄所见略同（bkrs:have similar views）。</p>

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can you format your answer to make it more readable, please.
Mou某
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user6065
<p>In the following sentence:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>正如我们之前<strong>所</strong>说，Alphabet在企业投资者中似乎有些另类。</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I assumed the usage of 所 in this case is, according to Pleco:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>[as a noun without 的, esp. when the verb is monosyllabic]</p>
<p>据你所说</p>
</blockquote>
<p>But in this sentence there is no preposition such as 据. The whole sentence would work fine even without 所 I think.</p>
<p>So what does the 所 work for and what meaning does it have, compared to the case where 所 is not used?</p>

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正如 simply takes the place of 据 here - they play the same role of the preposition you're looking for in this context. You can easily write 根据我们之前所说; while not meaning the same thing, it has the same grammatical structure.
dROOOze
<grammar><adverbs>
What does 所 mean in 正如我们之前所说?
# What does 所 mean in 正如我们之前所说?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-02-20)

In the following sentence:

> 正如我们之前**所**说，Alphabet在企业投资者中似乎有些另类。

I assumed the usage of 所 in this case is, according to Pleco:

> [as a noun without 的, esp. when the verb is monosyllabic]
>
> 据你所说

But in this sentence there is no preposition such as 据. The whole sentence would work fine even without 所 I think.

So what does the 所 work for and what meaning does it have, compared to the case where 所 is not used?

**Tags:** grammar, adverbs

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: 正如 simply takes the place of 据 here - they play the same role of the preposition you're looking for in this context. You can easily write 根据我们之前所说; while not meaning the same thing, it has the same grammatical structure.  

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## 4 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2018-02-20. Score: 1

**ABC**

> 所
>
> CONS.
>
> 1 ~ V de that which
>
> 我所说的（话）
>
> what I said

So if we want to get into semantics I think that 我所说的 would be better put as: `the things that I said`, especially looking at ABC's definition.

Like you said, taking away 所 would still be valid: 我说的 but that would just be the difference between `what I said` (我说的) and `the things that I said` (我所说的).

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Now coming back to **据你所说**.

**ABC**

> 据
>
> CONV.
>
> according to; on the grounds of
>
> 据他说...
>
> According to him...

but if we add 所: `据他所说的` now becomes: `according to what he said`.


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### Answer by username_3 on 2018-02-20. Score: 1

正如我们之前(说)= Just as we (said) previously- 说 is a verb here

正如我们之前(所说)= Just as (the words) we (said ) previously

"我们所说" is short for "我们(**所**)说的話" = "the words (**that**) we said"

therefore, "我们所说(的話)" is a noun

*When you say "正如我们之前(说)" you have to follow it with a quote of what was said*

*When you say "正如我们之前(所说)" you can follow it with a quote of what was said or omit it and presume it is known*


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### Answer by username_4 on 2018-02-23. Score: 1

`所x` is referring to the object of the verb `x`, and makes the phrase nominal.

e.g.:

* 所见 what we see
* 所言/所说 what we say
* 所闻 what we hear
* 所想 what we think
* 日有所思，夜有所梦 what you thinking in the day is what you dreaming in the night


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### Answer by username_5 on 2018-02-20. Score: 0

＂汉语８００虚词用法词典＂所二，用在做定语主谓词组的动词前面，表示中心词是受事 used before the verb in a subject-predicate structure to make it passive (applies to #1)所＋动词／动词词组＋的＋名词／名词词组（１）我所认识的人中没有叫彼得的。（２）我把自己所想到的几个问题都说了，希望大家商量一下，看怎么解决。（３）我们所提的意见和建议不一定对，希望领导考虑吧。（４）现在，大学生们所关心的问题主要是毕业以后就业问题。（５）现在群众所关心、所议论的热点问题还是教育改革、医疗改革和住房改革问题。（６）一些留学生给学校领导所提的这些意见和建议，学校领导一定会认真研究，然后给大家一个满意的答复。四、用在动词前面，跟动词组成体词结构used before the verb to form a substantive structure (applies to #2) 1.所＋单音节动词（１）来了四五个学生，我包了一百多个饺子差不多都吃完了，所剩无几。（２）今天是自助餐，大家随便吃，各取所需（３）所说那里不错，我们就去了，结果大失所望（bkrs:greatly disappointed）。（４）传说这首诗为大诗人李白所作，其实不是。（５）随着经济改革的成功，政治改革就是大势所趋，人心所向（６）看人不能只看他怎么说，还要看他怎么做，从一个人的所作所为，就能看出他到底是个什么样的人。（７）如这篇文章所说，一个人做点儿好事并不难，难的是一辈子做好事，不做坏事。（８）他视金钱如粪土，你说做官是受苦，真是英雄所见略同（bkrs:have similar views）。

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: can you format your answer to make it more readable, please.  

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