<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/AjlmM.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/AjlmM.png" alt="鶴" /></a></p>
<p>The seal characters are 「⿱黍日（香）鶴」, which literally translate to <em>fragrant <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crane_(bird)" rel="nofollow noreferrer">crane</a></em>. This is either an <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_name" rel="nofollow noreferrer">art name</a> (a professional pseudonym used by Chinese and other East Asian artists) or is referring to the artwork itself.</p>
<p>The cursive calligraphy above the seal <em>possibly</em> refers to the same characters, but they look like they were written in a non-standard way to me.</p>
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<h4>Notes on seal character identification of 「香」</h4>
<p><kbd><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shang_dynasty" rel="nofollow noreferrer">商</a><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_bone_script" rel="nofollow noreferrer">甲</a><br><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/daBNg.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/daBNg.png" alt="" /></a><br><a href="https://xiaoxue.iis.sinica.edu.tw/yanbian/Reference/JiaguwenReference" rel="nofollow noreferrer">續</a>3.28.5<br><a href="http://www.guoxuedashi.net/jgwhj/?bhfl=1&amp;bh=36501&amp;jgwfl=" rel="nofollow noreferrer">合集36501</a></kbd><kbd><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Zhou" rel="nofollow noreferrer">西周</a><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_inscriptions" rel="nofollow noreferrer">金</a><br><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/nZAbw.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/nZAbw.png" alt="" /></a><br>伯㺇簋<br><a href="https://baike.baidu.hk/item/%E8%80%83%E5%8F%A4%E8%88%87%E6%96%87%E7%89%A9" rel="nofollow noreferrer">考古</a>06.6</kbd><kbd><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_seal_script" rel="nofollow noreferrer">篆</a><br><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/hzEGs.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/hzEGs.png" alt="⿱黍甘" /></a><br><a href="https://ctext.org/library.pl?if=gb&amp;file=77390&amp;page=111" rel="nofollow noreferrer">香部</a><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuowen_Jiezi" rel="nofollow noreferrer">說文解字</a></kbd><kbd><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_han" rel="nofollow noreferrer">東漢</a><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerical_script" rel="nofollow noreferrer">隸</a><br><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/UjBJu.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/UjBJu.png" alt="香" /></a><br>史晨碑<br>　</kbd><kbd><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_script" rel="nofollow noreferrer">楷</a><br><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/YGYYF.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/YGYYF.png" alt="香" /></a><br><br>　</kbd></p>
<p>「香」 was originally written as 「⿱黍口」, comprised of semantic <a href="https://xiaoxue.iis.sinica.edu.tw/yanbian?kaiOrder=2922" rel="nofollow noreferrer">「黍」</a> (a variety of high-grade <em>millet</em> used in glutinous grain and alcohol production) and an ideographic mark <a href="https://xiaoxue.iis.sinica.edu.tw/yanbian?kaiOrder=39" rel="nofollow noreferrer">「口」</a> used to distinguish the character 「⿱黍口」 from 「黍」.</p>
<p>Later on, 「口」 was complexified into various similar-looking shapes to <a href="https://xiaoxue.iis.sinica.edu.tw/yanbian?kaiOrder=264" rel="nofollow noreferrer">「甘」</a> and 「日」; the modern form inherits the shape of 「日」. 「黍」 was also later simplified to <a href="https://xiaoxue.iis.sinica.edu.tw/yanbian?kaiOrder=281" rel="nofollow noreferrer">「禾」</a>.</p>

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It's exactly the seal's meaning, but the signature is not 香鹤, I think.
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<p>I have a painting with this signature and seal, can anyone tell me anything about it?</p>
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Help with signature and seal
# Help with signature and seal

(Asked by: username_0 on 2022-04-15)

I have a painting with this signature and seal, can anyone tell me anything about it?

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/ykqOy.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/ykqOy.jpg)

**Tags:** translation, character-identification, seal, calligraphy


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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2022-04-16. Score: 1

[![鶴](https://i.sstatic.net/AjlmM.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/AjlmM.png)

The seal characters are 「⿱黍日（香）鶴」, which literally translate to *fragrant [crane](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crane_(bird))*. This is either an [art name](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_name) (a professional pseudonym used by Chinese and other East Asian artists) or is referring to the artwork itself.

The cursive calligraphy above the seal *possibly* refers to the same characters, but they look like they were written in a non-standard way to me.

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#### Notes on seal character identification of 「香」

`商  
甲  
![](https://i.sstatic.net/daBNg.png)  
續3.28.5  
合集36501``西周  
金  
![](https://i.sstatic.net/nZAbw.png)  
伯㺇簋  
考古06.6` `篆  
![⿱黍甘](https://i.sstatic.net/hzEGs.png)  
香部  
說文解字``東漢  
隸  
![香](https://i.sstatic.net/UjBJu.png)  
史晨碑` `楷  
![香](https://i.sstatic.net/YGYYF.png)`

「香」 was originally written as 「⿱黍口」, comprised of semantic [「黍」](https://xiaoxue.iis.sinica.edu.tw/yanbian?kaiOrder=2922) (a variety of high-grade *millet* used in glutinous grain and alcohol production) and an ideographic mark [「口」](https://xiaoxue.iis.sinica.edu.tw/yanbian?kaiOrder=39) used to distinguish the character 「⿱黍口」 from 「黍」.

Later on, 「口」 was complexified into various similar-looking shapes to [「甘」](https://xiaoxue.iis.sinica.edu.tw/yanbian?kaiOrder=264) and 「日」; the modern form inherits the shape of 「日」. 「黍」 was also later simplified to [「禾」](https://xiaoxue.iis.sinica.edu.tw/yanbian?kaiOrder=281).

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: It's exactly the seal's meaning, but the signature is not 香鹤, I think.  

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