<p><strong>Relevant meanings of the glyphs</strong></p>
<p><strong>信：adj./v. 人言可信true, credible, trust → n. 书信 letter → n. 音信,信息 the correspondence (letters and message) (between two parties), message → n. 信息 information</strong></p>
<p>信，会人言可信之意。That is the glyph is composed of two semantic components, human 人 and say 言, implying that what is said is true. Extended from 人言, 信 is used to refer to 按照习惯的格式把要说的话写下来给指定的对象看的东西、书信, which is basically a letter. Extended from the meaning of letter, it's used for message. With this meaning, we have 口信、通风报信、信息、信息 etc, and it can be used with 儿, i.e. 信儿. The meaning of information for 信息 is formed rather late with the development of technology.</p>
<p><strong>讯：v.审讯 interrogate → v.询问 ask → n.询问的内容 what is being asked/the information obtained from asking → n.书信 letters</strong></p>
<p>讯，像一人反缚其手，临之以口，会审讯之义。That is the glyph is drawing a man who is tied back and a mouth, implying interrogation of a prisoner. It's then extended to mean 询问 <em>to ask</em>. These are usages as verbs. It can also be used as a noun, meaning 询问的内容 (what is being asked/the information obtained from asking). It's further generalized to mean 书信 letters.</p>
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<p><strong>Usages</strong></p>
<p>The derived meaning of 信 and 讯 are very similar. Most times they are used interchangeably in compound words. The selective usage is more of pragmatics than semantics. The following categorizing is very rough.</p>
<p><strong>1. Can be used interchangeably but the word one is used with much higher frequency.</strong></p>
<blockquote>
<p>音讯=音信：往来的信件和消息 correspondence of letters and messages</p>
<p>杳无音信，互通音信</p>
</blockquote>
<p>They have exactly the same meaning. In Classical Chinese, 音讯 is rarely used. But in Modern Chinese, 音讯 is slightly more used than 音信. But this could depend a lot on dialectal habits. Some dialects which keep more classical vocabulary may still have overwhelming use of 音信.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>信息=讯息+ the definition of information in modern technology</p>
<p>①音信，即往来的信件和消息   家里已有一个多月没听到哥哥的讯息/信息了。</p>
<p>②消息：掌握市场讯息/信息</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Again, 信息 is used way much more than 讯息. 信息 also has a specialized meaning of information in modern technology which is not possessed by 讯息.</p>
<p><strong>2. Different meaning</strong></p>
<blockquote>
<p>通信: ①v. 用书信互通消息，反映情况等 to correspond with letters</p>
<p>通讯：①v. 翔实而生动地报道客观事物或典型人物的文章 to vividly write (news) reports/articles in details</p>
<p>通信=(outdated)通讯：②利用电波、光波等信号传送文字、图像等 to transmit texts, graphs and etc. via radio or light waves.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The meaning ① <em>to correspond with letters</em> of 通信 is more-than-thousand-year old. The common meaning ② of 通信 and 通讯, <em>to transmit texts, graphs and etc. via radio or light waves</em>, is a new meaning adapted to the development of technology. However, 通讯 is outdated. But spun from this very meaning,通讯 is <strong>exclusively</strong> used as <strong>to vividly write (news) reports/articles in details</strong>. This is usually connected with a news agency, as in 新华社(Xinhua Agency)讯(reports). There was also a newspaper called 社讯. 信 doesn't have this meaning.</p>
<p>This is probably why 报讯 by itself is not used for <em>to inform someone</em> because it creates confusion. We use expressions like 本报讯 at the beginning of a news report to mean <em>this newspaper reports</em>.</p>
<p>In 通风报信, the variant 通风报讯 came before the invention of newspaper. But as usual, 信 is much more frequently used and considered the canonical form.</p>
<p>Another set of words that just came into my mind are more complicated.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>信号：the <strong>general</strong> term for light, radio, sound, movements and etc. that are used to send messages or deliver commands.  信号灯，信号弹. 讯号 cannot be used here because it's too specific.</p>
<p>讯号：the <strong>specific</strong> sign, signal etc. for some <strong>specific</strong> message. 等待总攻击的讯号  讯号 is preferred to 信号</p>
<p>信号：an <strong>omen/signal</strong> for something that's about to happen. “这是蒋介石公开发出的全面内战的信号”</p>
<p>讯号、信号：message/signal in radio,electrical, electrimagnetic waves</p>
</blockquote>
<hr />
<p>If you come up with more sets of minimal pairs, we can discuss them further.</p>

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Quote:- "...音信 is used way much more than 音讯" I always feel that people use the latter more in writings and the former in conversations because 音讯 "sounds" more "classical" and "poetic", which is why it appears in old songs? Just a personal impression.
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@Wayne Cheah Thanks for pointing it out. I didn't proofread that passage; I was thinking about them in Classical Chinese. I've updated the answer. In Modern Chinese, however, 音讯 is actually slightly more used than 音信.  I don't feel any formal vs. informal difference. A brief look at the corpus also confirms this. It's another story in Classical Chinese, where 音讯 rarely appears. So I'd say 音信 is more poetic. Some dialects may keep more features of MC, so 音信 could be colloquially dominant in some dialects. Maybe that's why you feel it's more casual.
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lilysirius
<p>讯 is &quot;news&quot;, its broader meanings and usages include &quot;ask&quot; and &quot;interrogate&quot;.</p>
<p>信 is &quot;letter&quot; (that contains and delivers a message). It also has broad meanings and usages, but none of them comes close to the meaning of 讯.</p>
<p>By your judgment, which word is to be used in the following sentences.</p>
<p>新华社&quot;信&quot; - Xinhua news agency &quot;<strong>letter</strong>&quot; (信), or should it be Xinhua news agency &quot;<strong>news</strong>&quot; (讯)?</p>
<p>通风报&quot;讯&quot; - An act of an embed person (線人) alerting and sending the &quot;<strong>news</strong>&quot; (讯) of the recipient's (usually his associates) enemy or opposition, or an act of alerting and sending the &quot;<strong>information</strong>&quot; (as through a message,信) of the recipient's enemy or opposition?</p>
<p>Same as in English, sometimes we need to know the broader meanings of a word and its typical usages in order to fully understand the word and its proper uses.</p>

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<p>The difference between 信 and 讯 is explained here <a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/42947/differences-%E4%BF%A1%E6%81%AF-vs-%E8%AE%AF%E6%81%AF">Differences: 信息 vs 讯息?</a></p>
<ul>
<li><p>讯: message; a specific piece of information</p>
</li>
<li><p>信: letter (contains information in general)</p>
</li>
</ul>
<blockquote>
<p><em>通风报信（why not 讯？）</em></p>
</blockquote>
<p>Type in 通风报 in the search engine, the first page will be filled with 通风报讯 entries. Obviously, some people use 信 and 讯 interchangeably and made 通风报信 a somewhat accepted variant of 通风报讯 which is the standard one</p>
<p>通风报讯 (Whistleblowing) is more appropriate than 通风报信 because the act of 通风报讯 is more like sending a message than giving a report</p>
<blockquote>
<p><em>新华社讯（why not 信？）</em></p>
</blockquote>
<p>讯 in 新华社讯 implies there are specific pieces of information (news items).</p>
<p>新华社信 implies 'a letter from 新华社' -- like an editorial</p>
<p>More examples:</p>
<p>通信 = exchange letters (互通书信)</p>
<p>发信 = send a letter (发出书信)</p>
<p>通讯 = exchange message (互通讯息)</p>
<p>发讯 = send a message (发出讯息)</p>
<p>发讯号 = send a signal (发出讯号)</p>

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<p>Are there some differences between 信 and 讯？</p>
<p>such as</p>
<p>新华社讯（why not 信？）</p>
<p>通风报信（why not 讯？）</p>
<p>It seems they are always the same. Are there some cases where we need to use 信 and 讯 selectively?</p>

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Does this answer your question? [Differences: 信息 vs 讯息?](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/42947/differences-%e4%bf%a1%e6%81%af-vs-%e8%ae%af%e6%81%af)
L Parker
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sorry this is not what I want
jinglingmen
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nowadays，for daily user perspective，讯 usually involves telecommunication，while 信 is more generic。
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Are there some differences between 信 and 讯？
# Are there some differences between 信 and 讯？

(Asked by: username_0 on 2021-04-28)

Are there some differences between 信 and 讯？

such as

新华社讯（why not 信？）

通风报信（why not 讯？）

It seems they are always the same. Are there some cases where we need to use 信 and 讯 selectively?

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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Does this answer your question? [Differences: 信息 vs 讯息?](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/42947/differences-%e4%bf%a1%e6%81%af-vs-%e8%ae%af%e6%81%af)  
> **username_0**: sorry this is not what I want  
> **username_2**: nowadays，for daily user perspective，讯 usually involves telecommunication，while 信 is more generic。  

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## 3 answers

### Answer by username_3 on 2022-02-22. Score: 1

**Relevant meanings of the glyphs**

**信：adj./v. 人言可信true, credible, trust → n. 书信 letter → n. 音信,信息 the correspondence (letters and message) (between two parties), message → n. 信息 information**

信，会人言可信之意。That is the glyph is composed of two semantic components, human 人 and say 言, implying that what is said is true. Extended from 人言, 信 is used to refer to 按照习惯的格式把要说的话写下来给指定的对象看的东西、书信, which is basically a letter. Extended from the meaning of letter, it's used for message. With this meaning, we have 口信、通风报信、信息、信息 etc, and it can be used with 儿, i.e. 信儿. The meaning of information for 信息 is formed rather late with the development of technology.

**讯：v.审讯 interrogate → v.询问 ask → n.询问的内容 what is being asked/the information obtained from asking → n.书信 letters**

讯，像一人反缚其手，临之以口，会审讯之义。That is the glyph is drawing a man who is tied back and a mouth, implying interrogation of a prisoner. It's then extended to mean 询问 *to ask*. These are usages as verbs. It can also be used as a noun, meaning 询问的内容 (what is being asked/the information obtained from asking). It's further generalized to mean 书信 letters.

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**Usages**

The derived meaning of 信 and 讯 are very similar. Most times they are used interchangeably in compound words. The selective usage is more of pragmatics than semantics. The following categorizing is very rough.

**1. Can be used interchangeably but the word one is used with much higher frequency.**

> 音讯=音信：往来的信件和消息 correspondence of letters and messages
>
> 杳无音信，互通音信

They have exactly the same meaning. In Classical Chinese, 音讯 is rarely used. But in Modern Chinese, 音讯 is slightly more used than 音信. But this could depend a lot on dialectal habits. Some dialects which keep more classical vocabulary may still have overwhelming use of 音信.

> 信息=讯息+ the definition of information in modern technology
>
> ①音信，即往来的信件和消息 家里已有一个多月没听到哥哥的讯息/信息了。
>
> ②消息：掌握市场讯息/信息

Again, 信息 is used way much more than 讯息. 信息 also has a specialized meaning of information in modern technology which is not possessed by 讯息.

**2. Different meaning**

> 通信: ①v. 用书信互通消息，反映情况等 to correspond with letters
>
> 通讯：①v. 翔实而生动地报道客观事物或典型人物的文章 to vividly write (news) reports/articles in details
>
> 通信=(outdated)通讯：②利用电波、光波等信号传送文字、图像等 to transmit texts, graphs and etc. via radio or light waves.

The meaning ① *to correspond with letters* of 通信 is more-than-thousand-year old. The common meaning ② of 通信 and 通讯, *to transmit texts, graphs and etc. via radio or light waves*, is a new meaning adapted to the development of technology. However, 通讯 is outdated. But spun from this very meaning,通讯 is **exclusively** used as **to vividly write (news) reports/articles in details**. This is usually connected with a news agency, as in 新华社(Xinhua Agency)讯(reports). There was also a newspaper called 社讯. 信 doesn't have this meaning.

This is probably why 报讯 by itself is not used for *to inform someone* because it creates confusion. We use expressions like 本报讯 at the beginning of a news report to mean *this newspaper reports*.

In 通风报信, the variant 通风报讯 came before the invention of newspaper. But as usual, 信 is much more frequently used and considered the canonical form.

Another set of words that just came into my mind are more complicated.

> 信号：the **general** term for light, radio, sound, movements and etc. that are used to send messages or deliver commands. 信号灯，信号弹. 讯号 cannot be used here because it's too specific.
>
> 讯号：the **specific** sign, signal etc. for some **specific** message. 等待总攻击的讯号 讯号 is preferred to 信号
>
> 信号：an **omen/signal** for something that's about to happen. “这是蒋介石公开发出的全面内战的信号”
>
> 讯号、信号：message/signal in radio,electrical, electrimagnetic waves

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If you come up with more sets of minimal pairs, we can discuss them further.

> **Comments:**
> **username_4**: Quote:- "...音信 is used way much more than 音讯" I always feel that people use the latter more in writings and the former in conversations because 音讯 "sounds" more "classical" and "poetic", which is why it appears in old songs? Just a personal impression.  
> **username_3**: @username_4 Thanks for pointing it out. I didn't proofread that passage; I was thinking about them in Classical Chinese. I've updated the answer. In Modern Chinese, however, 音讯 is actually slightly more used than 音信.  I don't feel any formal vs. informal difference. A brief look at the corpus also confirms this. It's another story in Classical Chinese, where 音讯 rarely appears. So I'd say 音信 is more poetic. Some dialects may keep more features of MC, so 音信 could be colloquially dominant in some dialects. Maybe that's why you feel it's more casual.  

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### Answer by username_5 on 2021-09-25. Score: 0

讯 is "news", its broader meanings and usages include "ask" and "interrogate".

信 is "letter" (that contains and delivers a message). It also has broad meanings and usages, but none of them comes close to the meaning of 讯.

By your judgment, which word is to be used in the following sentences.

新华社"信" - Xinhua news agency "**letter**" (信), or should it be Xinhua news agency "**news**" (讯)?

通风报"讯" - An act of an embed person (線人) alerting and sending the "**news**" (讯) of the recipient's (usually his associates) enemy or opposition, or an act of alerting and sending the "**information**" (as through a message,信) of the recipient's enemy or opposition?

Same as in English, sometimes we need to know the broader meanings of a word and its typical usages in order to fully understand the word and its proper uses.


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### Answer by username_6 on 2021-04-28. Score: -1

The difference between 信 and 讯 is explained here [Differences: 信息 vs 讯息?](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/42947/differences-%E4%BF%A1%E6%81%AF-vs-%E8%AE%AF%E6%81%AF)

* 讯: message; a specific piece of information
* 信: letter (contains information in general)

> *通风报信（why not 讯？）*

Type in 通风报 in the search engine, the first page will be filled with 通风报讯 entries. Obviously, some people use 信 and 讯 interchangeably and made 通风报信 a somewhat accepted variant of 通风报讯 which is the standard one

通风报讯 (Whistleblowing) is more appropriate than 通风报信 because the act of 通风报讯 is more like sending a message than giving a report

> *新华社讯（why not 信？）*

讯 in 新华社讯 implies there are specific pieces of information (news items).

新华社信 implies 'a letter from 新华社' -- like an editorial

More examples:

通信 = exchange letters (互通书信)

发信 = send a letter (发出书信)

通讯 = exchange message (互通讯息)

发讯 = send a message (发出讯息)

发讯号 = send a signal (发出讯号)


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