<p>In Chinese, clauses are often freely translated, since there is no such grammar structure. And the grammar of Wu Chinese is much similar with standard Chinese. I try to translate your sentence into both standard Chinese and Shanghai Wu.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>But, she came here knowing (that this fight was hopeless).</p>
<p>(standard Chinese) 但是，她来这里的时候，就知道（这场战斗是没有希望的）。</p>
<p>(Shanghai Wu) 但是，渠（伊）来此地个辰光，就晓得（箇场仗是没啥希望个）。</p>
<p>/de zy, ghi le tshy di gheh zen kuaon, zhieu shiau teh geh zan tsan zy meh sa shi vaon gheh/</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The following sentences which you intented to translate into are grammatically possible but less natural, and even less when clauses continue to grow.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>(standard Chinese) 但是，知道（这场战斗没有希望）的她来了这里。</p>
<p>(Shanghai Wu) 但是，晓得（箇场仗没啥希望）个渠（伊）来仔此地。</p>
</blockquote>

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<blockquote>
  <p>但是, 晓得 个 伊 来仔</p>
  
  <p>/dé.zz̩ ɕiɒ.tə́ʔ ɦəʔ ɦi le.tsź̩/</p>
  
  <p>Intended meaning: "But, she came here knowing (that this fight was hopeless)."</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Is the use of 个 here correct? (伊 refers to an animate antecedent here.) If not, what is the proper way to write a relative clause?</p>

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(Shanghai Wu) "但是, 晓得 个 伊 来仔." Is this correct?
# (Shanghai Wu) "但是, 晓得 个 伊 来仔." Is this correct?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2019-10-28)

> 但是, 晓得 个 伊 来仔
>
> /dé.zz̩ ɕiɒ.tə́ʔ ɦəʔ ɦi le.tsź̩/
>
> Intended meaning: "But, she came here knowing (that this fight was hopeless)."

Is the use of 个 here correct? (伊 refers to an animate antecedent here.) If not, what is the proper way to write a relative clause?

**Tags:** particles, shanghainese


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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2019-11-02. Score: 2 | Accepted answer

In Chinese, clauses are often freely translated, since there is no such grammar structure. And the grammar of Wu Chinese is much similar with standard Chinese. I try to translate your sentence into both standard Chinese and Shanghai Wu.

> But, she came here knowing (that this fight was hopeless).
>
> (standard Chinese) 但是，她来这里的时候，就知道（这场战斗是没有希望的）。
>
> (Shanghai Wu) 但是，渠（伊）来此地个辰光，就晓得（箇场仗是没啥希望个）。
>
> /de zy, ghi le tshy di gheh zen kuaon, zhieu shiau teh geh zan tsan zy meh sa shi vaon gheh/

The following sentences which you intented to translate into are grammatically possible but less natural, and even less when clauses continue to grow.

> (standard Chinese) 但是，知道（这场战斗没有希望）的她来了这里。
>
> (Shanghai Wu) 但是，晓得（箇场仗没啥希望）个渠（伊）来仔此地。


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