<p>Despite their meaning being very similar to one another, I don't think they are the same, especially in your example.</p>
<p>更迭 is more about people, time, dynasty and such. E.g. 朝代更迭，人事更迭 etc. Synonyms would be 更替 or 变迁。</p>
<p>交替 is more about natural phenomena or the alternation between one of a few states. E.g.</p>
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<p>明暗交替</p>
<p>在正弦曲线中，波峰与波谷交替出现</p>
</blockquote>
<p>So in your example, I think 交替 would be more suitable. And 晴雨交替 suggested by <a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/users/13882/tang-ho">Tang Ho</a> is a very good answer in my opinion.</p>
<p>But using them as 交替更迭 is definitely redundant. It's something we're taught to avoid since primary school.</p>

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<p>交替 and 更迭 are two similar terms that complement each other in an four characters idiomatic phrase. Using four characters idiomatic phrase is a very common practice in Chinese speech. </p>

<p>For example:</p>

<p>小心 (careful) and 謹慎 (cautious) have similar meaning, it is often put together as an idiomatic phrase (but not a true idiom)</p>

<p>You can say "你要小心" or "你要謹慎", they deliver a similar message, and both are to the point. </p>

<p>You can also combine the two adjectives into one idiomatic phrase "小心謹慎" and say "你要小心謹慎" to illustrate a more detailed message and add literary flair to your speech.  </p>

<p>"雨天與晴天交替更迭" is grammatically correct and detailed. However, it would be more elegant to say "晴雨交替" or "晴雨更迭" (<em>another way to make idiomatic phrase is reduce a long phrase into four characters phrase</em>)</p>

<p>More examples:</p>

<p>縱横 (intersecting) 交錯 (crossing) --> 縱横交錯</p>

<p>聰明 (intelligent) 伶俐 (smart)  --> 聰明伶俐</p>

<p><em>We do it in English too, e.g. "He is a clever, smart man"</em></p>

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Thanks for the fast response! So would 雨天與晴天交替 be grammatically correct, or do you have to use 雨天與晴天交替更迭?
Crashalot
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雨天與晴天交替 or 雨天與晴天更迭 are both correct, but 更迭 is a classical term that no long be used commonly on it's own
Tang Ho
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Note that 小心≠谨慎. I would say 小心 is more of a state, 谨慎 is more of a style. 他很小心 literally means "He is careful (on whatever he's doing right now)", but if 他很谨慎, he's probably cautious most of the time. You can say someone 为人谨慎, but 为人小心? eh eh.
zypA13510
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They are just similar, not the same of course, the point is "小心+谨慎" illustrate the state of mind more clearly. 你要小心謹慎 means "not only you have to be careful, but also cautious."
Tang Ho
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Yes, we don't say 为人小心, but  we do say  做事谨慎; 做事小心. the two terms are not interchangeable but comparable. Sometimes replacing one with the other doesn't change the message much
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<p><a href="https://www.yellowbridge.com/chinese/sentsearch.php?word=%E6%9B%B4%E8%BF%AD" rel="nofollow noreferrer">This page</a> lists an example sentence for 交替:</p>

<p>雨天與晴天交替更迭</p>

<p>According to the site, 交替 means <code>to replace; alternately; in turn</code>.</p>

<p>However, 更迭 means <code>to alternate; to change</code>.</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Isn't 交替更迭 then redundant?</p></li>
<li><p>If 交替更迭 is redundant, could you change the example sentence to 雨天與晴天交替?</p></li>
<li><p>How would you say the example sentence in Cantonese?</p></li>
</ol>

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晴雨交替 would be better
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Is 交替更迭 redundant? Would this be proper grammar: 雨天與晴天交替?
# Is 交替更迭 redundant? Would this be proper grammar: 雨天與晴天交替?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-03-15)

[This page](https://www.yellowbridge.com/chinese/sentsearch.php?word=%E6%9B%B4%E8%BF%AD) lists an example sentence for 交替:

雨天與晴天交替更迭

According to the site, 交替 means `to replace; alternately; in turn`.

However, 更迭 means `to alternate; to change`.

1. Isn't 交替更迭 then redundant?
2. If 交替更迭 is redundant, could you change the example sentence to 雨天與晴天交替?
3. How would you say the example sentence in Cantonese?

**Tags:** grammar, mandarin, cantonese

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: 晴雨交替 would be better  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_3 on 2018-03-15. Score: 4 | Accepted answer

交替 and 更迭 are two similar terms that complement each other in an four characters idiomatic phrase. Using four characters idiomatic phrase is a very common practice in Chinese speech.

For example:

小心 (careful) and 謹慎 (cautious) have similar meaning, it is often put together as an idiomatic phrase (but not a true idiom)

You can say "你要小心" or "你要謹慎", they deliver a similar message, and both are to the point.

You can also combine the two adjectives into one idiomatic phrase "小心謹慎" and say "你要小心謹慎" to illustrate a more detailed message and add literary flair to your speech.

"雨天與晴天交替更迭" is grammatically correct and detailed. However, it would be more elegant to say "晴雨交替" or "晴雨更迭" (*another way to make idiomatic phrase is reduce a long phrase into four characters phrase*)

More examples:

縱横 (intersecting) 交錯 (crossing) --> 縱横交錯

聰明 (intelligent) 伶俐 (smart) --> 聰明伶俐

*We do it in English too, e.g. "He is a clever, smart man"*

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Thanks for the fast response! So would 雨天與晴天交替 be grammatically correct, or do you have to use 雨天與晴天交替更迭?  
> **username_3**: 雨天與晴天交替 or 雨天與晴天更迭 are both correct, but 更迭 is a classical term that no long be used commonly on it's own  
> **username_2**: Note that 小心≠谨慎. I would say 小心 is more of a state, 谨慎 is more of a style. 他很小心 literally means "He is careful (on whatever he's doing right now)", but if 他很谨慎, he's probably cautious most of the time. You can say someone 为人谨慎, but 为人小心? eh eh.  
> **username_3**: They are just similar, not the same of course, the point is "小心+谨慎" illustrate the state of mind more clearly. 你要小心謹慎 means "not only you have to be careful, but also cautious."  
> **username_3**: Yes, we don't say 为人小心, but  we do say  做事谨慎; 做事小心. the two terms are not interchangeable but comparable. Sometimes replacing one with the other doesn't change the message much  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2018-03-15. Score: 2

Despite their meaning being very similar to one another, I don't think they are the same, especially in your example.

更迭 is more about people, time, dynasty and such. E.g. 朝代更迭，人事更迭 etc. Synonyms would be 更替 or 变迁。

交替 is more about natural phenomena or the alternation between one of a few states. E.g.

> 明暗交替
>
> 在正弦曲线中，波峰与波谷交替出现

So in your example, I think 交替 would be more suitable. And 晴雨交替 suggested by [username_3 Ho](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/users/13882/username_3) is a very good answer in my opinion.

But using them as 交替更迭 is definitely redundant. It's something we're taught to avoid since primary school.


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