<p>according to 教育部異體字字典, the first one is a variant of “鵬”:</p>
<p><a href="https://dict.variants.moe.edu.tw/variants/rbt/word_attribute.rbt?quote_code=QTA0NzM4" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://dict.variants.moe.edu.tw/variants/rbt/word_attribute.rbt?quote_code=QTA0NzM4</a></p>
<p>the second one “氵”+“屰”, maybe it’s not chinese, a cjkv compatible character?</p>
<p>edited</p>
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<p>重脩永春州志序</p>
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<p>樂山草木・四序皆春・鵬嶽樓臺・萬家環翠</p>
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<p>溯戴雲之孕毓・青隨天馬西來</p>
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<p>展大羽之屏藩・秀引雙魚東障</p>
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<p>well, i would read this “un-unicoded” character as “溯”, roughly as “recall” (「溯」表示往前推想、回想)</p>
<p>mainly, 鵬嶽 —&gt; 大鵬山, 戴雲 (山), 天馬 (山), 大羽 (峰) &amp; 雙魚 (山); all are place name in 永春州</p>
<p>have fun :)</p>

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I think ⿰氵屰 may just be a variant of 㴑.
Mou某
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@Mou某, any web sites, or documentations to proof?
水巷孑蠻
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It should be a Chinese character of some sort, since it's part of a Chinese document. It's a local gazetteer from the 1700s. I have added the entire image in the top post.
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@水巷孑蠻 https://wikisource.org/wiki/User_talk:BabelStone "[陝西通志（清雍正刊乾隆補修本）卷75 folio 65a](https://iiif.lib.harvard.edu/manifests/view/drs:428495331$66i) L4, L5; [明實錄（中央研究院歷史語言研究所1962年刊本）神宗卷506 校勘記 folio 3 pp 2329](http://sillok.history.go.kr/imageViewer/?levelId=msilok_015_0110_5070) L2; variant of 㴑?" ---- I can't see it in BabelStone PUA ---- which most likely means it is an interchangeable variant unsuitable for encoding.
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@Mou某, the un-unicoded “氵”+“屰” in 陝西通志 & 畿輔通志; is . . .; well, i would read it as “溯”. further, the 異體字字典 mentioned that 「㴑」為「溯」之異體, isn’t it more straightforward to treat  “氵”+“屰” as variant of “溯”? https://dict.variants.moe.edu.tw/variants/rbt/word_attribute.rbt?quote_code=QTAyMjc4LTAwMQ
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<p>I need a little help deciphering a document. There are two characters that I'm unsure about, and I would appreciate your expertise. The first one seems to be 鵬, with the 朋 written together, but I'm not entirely certain. The second character is a bit trickier. I've searched through several dictionaries, but I couldn't find an exact match. The closest I found was 逆 or 溯.</p>
<p>If any of you have any insights or suggestions, I would be grateful for your assistance. Thank you in advance for your help!</p>
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<p>They are both from this page, from a local gazetteer:</p>
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What are these two characters?
# What are these two characters?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2023-06-12)

I need a little help deciphering a document. There are two characters that I'm unsure about, and I would appreciate your expertise. The first one seems to be 鵬, with the 朋 written together, but I'm not entirely certain. The second character is a bit trickier. I've searched through several dictionaries, but I couldn't find an exact match. The closest I found was 逆 or 溯.

If any of you have any insights or suggestions, I would be grateful for your assistance. Thank you in advance for your help!

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/4Egld.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/4Egld.png)
[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/rO5kl.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/rO5kl.png)

They are both from this page, from a local gazetteer:

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/zCRHh.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/zCRHh.jpg)

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2023-06-13. Score: 6 | Accepted answer

according to 教育部異體字字典, the first one is a variant of “鵬”:

<https://dict.variants.moe.edu.tw/variants/rbt/word_attribute.rbt?quote_code=QTA0NzM4>

the second one “氵”+“屰”, maybe it’s not chinese, a cjkv compatible character?

edited

> 重脩永春州志序

> 樂山草木・四序皆春・鵬嶽樓臺・萬家環翠

> 溯戴雲之孕毓・青隨天馬西來

> 展大羽之屏藩・秀引雙魚東障

well, i would read this “un-unicoded” character as “溯”, roughly as “recall” (「溯」表示往前推想、回想)

mainly, 鵬嶽 —> 大鵬山, 戴雲 (山), 天馬 (山), 大羽 (峰) & 雙魚 (山); all are place name in 永春州

have fun :)

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: I think ⿰氵屰 may just be a variant of 㴑.  
> **username_1**: @username_2, any web sites, or documentations to proof?  
> **username_0**: It should be a Chinese character of some sort, since it's part of a Chinese document. It's a local gazetteer from the 1700s. I have added the entire image in the top post.  
> **username_2**: @username_1 https://wikisource.org/wiki/User_talk:BabelStone "[陝西通志（清雍正刊乾隆補修本）卷75 folio 65a](https://iiif.lib.harvard.edu/manifests/view/drs:428495331$66i) L4, L5; [明實錄（中央研究院歷史語言研究所1962年刊本）神宗卷506 校勘記 folio 3 pp 2329](http://sillok.history.go.kr/imageViewer/?levelId=msilok_015_0110_5070) L2; variant of 㴑?" ---- I can't see it in BabelStone PUA ---- which most likely means it is an interchangeable variant unsuitable for encoding.  
> **username_1**: @username_2, the un-unicoded “氵”+“屰” in 陝西通志 & 畿輔通志; is . . .; well, i would read it as “溯”. further, the 異體字字典 mentioned that 「㴑」為「溯」之異體, isn’t it more straightforward to treat  “氵”+“屰” as variant of “溯”? https://dict.variants.moe.edu.tw/variants/rbt/word_attribute.rbt?quote_code=QTAyMjc4LTAwMQ  

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