<p>Why not? 的确 is roughly &quot;indeed&quot;, it means you admit or agree to a certain fact, or you are very impressed by a certain fact. There's nothing incompatible with 虽然 (although) and 但是 (but).</p>
<p>If I were to write this sentence I would probably use 但是质量的确很好, but 但是的确质量很好 does not sound wrong to me.</p>
<p>The CCL corpus contains usages of both &quot;虽然的确&quot; and &quot;但是的确&quot;. Here are a few examples:</p>
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<p>你一共做过多少个节目自己肯定数不过来吧？</p>
<p>还好，还可以数过来，<strong>但是的确</strong>蛮多的。</p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
<p>我知道施政虽然已经有进步,<strong>但是的确</strong>有不足之处,需要改进。</p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
<p>这些所谓“化石”里所含的碳,<strong>虽然的确</strong>与生命活动产生的碳有些类似,但也有可能是特殊的地质活动的产物。</p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
<p>他考虑到诡计的可能性，声音<strong>虽然的确</strong>是尤里安的声音，但或许尤里安是在无法自主的情况下，被强迫与敌人合作的。</p>
</blockquote>

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<p>This is a fill-in-the-blanks exercise on page 56 of 新实用汉语课本5 (<a href="https://i.sstatic.net/QPAdc.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer">photo</a>):</p>
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<p>那种汽车 ____ 价钱很贵， ____ 的确质量很好。</p>
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<p>We're asked to fill in the blanks with 关联词语.  What's tripping me up here: if the 的确 weren't there, I would use 虽然……但是…… such as in:</p>
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<p>那种汽车<strong>虽然</strong>价钱很贵，<strong>但是</strong>质量很好。</p>
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<p>I'm fairly confident this is unproblematic.</p>
<p>But the given sentence has 的确, and my 语感 is telling me that 虽然……但是…… is not compatible with 的确 here (something feels off, although I can't quite pinpoint what), and I should choose something else.  Although maybe I'm &quot;afraid of ghosts&quot;, and the 的确 simply adds emphasis to the right-hand side.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>: Is it okay to fill in the blanks of 那种汽车 ____ 价钱很贵， ____ 的确质量很好 with 虽然……但是 despite the 的确?</p>

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I would say: 那种汽车虽然价钱很贵，但是质量的确很好。
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Is it okay to fill in the blanks of 那种汽车 ____ 价钱很贵， ____ 的确质量很好 with 虽然……但是 despite the 的确?
# Is it okay to fill in the blanks of 那种汽车 ____ 价钱很贵， ____ 的确质量很好 with 虽然……但是 despite the 的确?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2023-11-05)

This is a fill-in-the-blanks exercise on page 56 of 新实用汉语课本5 ([photo](https://i.sstatic.net/QPAdc.jpg)):

> 那种汽车 \_\_\_\_ 价钱很贵， \_\_\_\_ 的确质量很好。

We're asked to fill in the blanks with 关联词语. What's tripping me up here: if the 的确 weren't there, I would use 虽然……但是…… such as in:

> 那种汽车**虽然**价钱很贵，**但是**质量很好。

I'm fairly confident this is unproblematic.

But the given sentence has 的确, and my 语感 is telling me that 虽然……但是…… is not compatible with 的确 here (something feels off, although I can't quite pinpoint what), and I should choose something else. Although maybe I'm "afraid of ghosts", and the 的确 simply adds emphasis to the right-hand side.

**Question**: Is it okay to fill in the blanks of 那种汽车 \_\_\_\_ 价钱很贵， \_\_\_\_ 的确质量很好 with 虽然……但是 despite the 的确?

**Tags:** grammar, word-choice

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: I would say: 那种汽车虽然价钱很贵，但是质量的确很好。  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2023-11-05. Score: 3

Why not? 的确 is roughly "indeed", it means you admit or agree to a certain fact, or you are very impressed by a certain fact. There's nothing incompatible with 虽然 (although) and 但是 (but).

If I were to write this sentence I would probably use 但是质量的确很好, but 但是的确质量很好 does not sound wrong to me.

The CCL corpus contains usages of both "虽然的确" and "但是的确". Here are a few examples:

> 你一共做过多少个节目自己肯定数不过来吧？
>
> 还好，还可以数过来，**但是的确**蛮多的。

> 我知道施政虽然已经有进步,**但是的确**有不足之处,需要改进。

> 这些所谓“化石”里所含的碳,**虽然的确**与生命活动产生的碳有些类似,但也有可能是特殊的地质活动的产物。

> 他考虑到诡计的可能性，声音**虽然的确**是尤里安的声音，但或许尤里安是在无法自主的情况下，被强迫与敌人合作的。


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