<p>I don't know the answer, but I think this is an interesting topic, and I found <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20171009043244/http://theory.people.com.cn/GB/49157/49165/4318685.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">this article</a> which might answer some of your doubts. There's no way to paste a decent link in the comment section, so I add it here as an answer. You might take a look at <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B5%B7%E5%B3%BD%E5%85%A9%E5%B2%B8%E6%BC%A2%E8%AA%9E%E7%99%BC%E9%9F%B3%E5%B7%AE%E7%95%B0%E5%88%97%E8%A1%A8" rel="nofollow noreferrer">海峡两岸汉语发音差异列表</a>, you can find some interesting references there too.</p>

<p>About Chengdu dialect, I do also find it having a lot of pronunciations similar to some northern dialects in China, which is probably why you see those characters listed as 阳平 in《现代汉语方言音库 • 成都话音档》.  </p>

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<p>In this case, all of the characters were not even 平声 at all in Middle Chinese, but were all 入声 instead [Wiktionary's IPA]:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>夹 (夾) /kˠɛp̚/</p>
  
  <p>扎 /t͡ʃˠɛt̚/</p>
  
  <p>击 (擊) /kek̚/ </p>
  
  <p>息 /sɨk̚/</p>
</blockquote>

<p>All of the above started with voiceless unaspirated (obstruent) consonants, so are all 阴入 in Middle Chinese. For Standard Mandarin, these reflexes are notoriously unpredictable anyway. You may see that many (though not most) of the 多音字 of Standard Mandarin fall into this Middle Chinese tone category.</p>

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  <p>跌 /det̚/ </p>
</blockquote>

<p>This, on the other started with a voiced plosive in Middle Chinese, hence 阳入. As this was an obstruent voiced plosive, in Standard Mandarin this is regularly to be merged into 阳平, so <code>dié</code> would have been expected for 跌.</p>

<p>This leads to the question, how did speech in Beijing get distributed as such? Various hypotheses have been proposed: </p>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://2014tsil.ling.sinica.edu.tw/files/1987noteTone.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">dialect mixing</a> (much more important nowadays; there is an example of Jinan in Shandong being influenced by Standard Mandarin, increasing the number of 上声 because of its phonetic similarity to Beijing's 阴平);</li>
<li><a href="https://doi.org/10.21437/tal.2018-38" rel="nofollow noreferrer">initial consonant</a> (labial towards 去声, others toward one of the 平声);</li>
<li><a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/23753018.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">tone sandhi</a>; some characters were more common in the middle of words, where they are more likely to be non-flat in contour (so more likely to become modern 阳平)</li>
</ul>

<p>These are not conclusive; all that we can say is that the entering tone <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/23753018.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">was particularly unstable</a>, and variation in how it is pronounced is to be expected.</p>

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<p>I might be reading too much into this and seeing things that aren't there. But, I think, I'm seeing a pattern between some dialects and Mandarin. The following characters seem to have some sort of Mandarin 阴平 vs. dialect 阳平 split:</p>

<ul>
<li><p>夹</p></li>
<li><p>扎</p></li>
<li><p>击</p></li>
<li><p>跌</p></li>
<li><p>息</p></li>
</ul>

<p>I originally just thought it was a Taiwanese Guoyu thing, but the above characters are also all listed 阳平 in《现代汉语方言音库 • 成都话音档》.</p>

<p>Is there any explanation for this Putonghua 阴平 vs. dialect 阳平 split?</p>

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Taiwanese Guoyu vs. Putonghua 阴平/阳平 tone split?
# Taiwanese Guoyu vs. Putonghua 阴平/阳平 tone split?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2019-12-14)

I might be reading too much into this and seeing things that aren't there. But, I think, I'm seeing a pattern between some dialects and Mandarin. The following characters seem to have some sort of Mandarin 阴平 vs. dialect 阳平 split:

* 夹
* 扎
* 击
* 跌
* 息

I originally just thought it was a Taiwanese Guoyu thing, but the above characters are also all listed 阳平 in《现代汉语方言音库 • 成都话音档》.

Is there any explanation for this Putonghua 阴平 vs. dialect 阳平 split?

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2020-01-14. Score: 4 | Accepted answer

In this case, all of the characters were not even 平声 at all in Middle Chinese, but were all 入声 instead [Wiktionary's IPA]:

> 夹 (夾) /kˠɛp̚/
>
> 扎 /t͡ʃˠɛt̚/
>
> 击 (擊) /kek̚/
>
> 息 /sɨk̚/

All of the above started with voiceless unaspirated (obstruent) consonants, so are all 阴入 in Middle Chinese. For Standard Mandarin, these reflexes are notoriously unpredictable anyway. You may see that many (though not most) of the 多音字 of Standard Mandarin fall into this Middle Chinese tone category.

> 跌 /det̚/

This, on the other started with a voiced plosive in Middle Chinese, hence 阳入. As this was an obstruent voiced plosive, in Standard Mandarin this is regularly to be merged into 阳平, so `dié` would have been expected for 跌.

This leads to the question, how did speech in Beijing get distributed as such? Various hypotheses have been proposed:

* [dialect mixing](http://2014tsil.ling.sinica.edu.tw/files/1987noteTone.pdf) (much more important nowadays; there is an example of Jinan in Shandong being influenced by Standard Mandarin, increasing the number of 上声 because of its phonetic similarity to Beijing's 阴平);
* [initial consonant](https://doi.org/10.21437/tal.2018-38) (labial towards 去声, others toward one of the 平声);
* [tone sandhi](https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/23753018.pdf); some characters were more common in the middle of words, where they are more likely to be non-flat in contour (so more likely to become modern 阳平)

These are not conclusive; all that we can say is that the entering tone [was particularly unstable](https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/23753018.pdf), and variation in how it is pronounced is to be expected.


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### Answer by username_1 on 2019-12-15. Score: 0

I don't know the answer, but I think this is an interesting topic, and I found [this article](https://web.archive.org/web/20171009043244/http://theory.people.com.cn/GB/49157/49165/4318685.html) which might answer some of your doubts. There's no way to paste a decent link in the comment section, so I add it here as an answer. You might take a look at [海峡两岸汉语发音差异列表](https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B5%B7%E5%B3%BD%E5%85%A9%E5%B2%B8%E6%BC%A2%E8%AA%9E%E7%99%BC%E9%9F%B3%E5%B7%AE%E7%95%B0%E5%88%97%E8%A1%A8), you can find some interesting references there too.

About Chengdu dialect, I do also find it having a lot of pronunciations similar to some northern dialects in China, which is probably why you see those characters listed as 阳平 in《现代汉语方言音库 • 成都话音档》.


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