<p>You need to do some linear thinking to understand the extended meaning of a word</p>
<p>下雨天时 --&gt; 空气潮湿 --&gt; 东西发霉</p>
<p>When it rains --&gt; the air turn humid --&gt; things get moldy</p>
<p><strong>Edit</strong>:</p>
<p>According to this <a href="https://www.chinlingo.com/articles/600769/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">story</a>, 倒霉 was originally written as 倒楣</p>
<p>But we can still interpret 倒霉 as 倒运， 霉运 = bad luck / unlucky</p>
<p>霉运 = 烂运， 坏运 --  things get moldy (霉) will turn rotten /bad (烂/ 坏)</p>

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<p><a href="https://ctext.org/library.pl?if=gb&amp;file=77391&amp;page=84" rel="noreferrer">《說文・黑部》</a> <p></p>
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<p>黴，中久雨青黑。从黑，微省聲。<p>
「黴」 (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstructions_of_Old_Chinese#Zhengzhang_(1981%E2%80%931995)" rel="noreferrer">Zhengzhang OC</a>: <strong>/*mrɯl/</strong>), blackening from being afflicted by prolonged rain. From semantic 「黑」 (<em>black</em>) and reduced phonetic 「微」 (<strong>/*mɯl/</strong>).</p>
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<p>The character 「霉」 (<em>mould, mildew</em>) did not exist originally, with the word that it represents being originally written as 「黴」. From character definitions, 「黴」 originally referred to the dark mould spots on garments from prolonged exposure to moisture, such as when rain hits and causes an environment to be damp. This is the direct correspondence between <em>mould</em> and <em>rain</em>.</p>
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<p>The correspondence between 「霉」 and <em>unlucky</em> is less certain, with the word being written variously throughout history as also 「倒楣」 and 「倒煤」. You can find <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_etymology" rel="noreferrer">folk etymology</a> explanations, but the choice of the second character for this word is most likely just a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character_classification#Rebus_(phonetic_loan)_characters" rel="noreferrer">phonetic loan</a>.</p>
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<p><strong>References:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>《王力古漢語字典》</li>
<li><a href="https://ctext.org/" rel="noreferrer">中國哲學書電子化計劃</a>
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<li><a href="https://ctext.org/library.pl?if=gb&amp;res=77351" rel="noreferrer">宋・徐鉉等奉敕校定　漢・許慎《說文解字》</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>

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<p>Almost all the other characters with the 雨 component have relation to rain, clouds, and weather. However, this character 霉 seems to be the exception. It means mold, but the rain semantic seems very confusing. What does 霉 have to do with rain? And where did the term 倒霉 (fallen + mold) come from which came to mean &quot;unlucky&quot;?</p>

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What does rain 雨 have to do with mold 霉 and bad luck?
# What does rain 雨 have to do with mold 霉 and bad luck?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2020-11-03)

Almost all the other characters with the 雨 component have relation to rain, clouds, and weather. However, this character 霉 seems to be the exception. It means mold, but the rain semantic seems very confusing. What does 霉 have to do with rain? And where did the term 倒霉 (fallen + mold) come from which came to mean "unlucky"?

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_3 on 2020-11-03. Score: 7 | Accepted answer

> [《說文・黑部》](https://ctext.org/library.pl?if=gb&file=77391&page=84)
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> > 黴，中久雨青黑。从黑，微省聲。
> >
> > 「黴」 ([Zhengzhang OC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstructions_of_Old_Chinese#Zhengzhang_(1981%E2%80%931995)): **/\*mrɯl/**), blackening from being afflicted by prolonged rain. From semantic 「黑」 (*black*) and reduced phonetic 「微」 (**/\*mɯl/**).

The character 「霉」 (*mould, mildew*) did not exist originally, with the word that it represents being originally written as 「黴」. From character definitions, 「黴」 originally referred to the dark mould spots on garments from prolonged exposure to moisture, such as when rain hits and causes an environment to be damp. This is the direct correspondence between *mould* and *rain*.

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The correspondence between 「霉」 and *unlucky* is less certain, with the word being written variously throughout history as also 「倒楣」 and 「倒煤」. You can find [folk etymology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_etymology) explanations, but the choice of the second character for this word is most likely just a [phonetic loan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character_classification#Rebus_(phonetic_loan)_characters).

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**References:**

* 《王力古漢語字典》
* [中國哲學書電子化計劃](https://ctext.org/)
  + [宋・徐鉉等奉敕校定　漢・許慎《說文解字》](https://ctext.org/library.pl?if=gb&res=77351)


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### Answer by username_1 on 2020-11-03. Score: 3

You need to do some linear thinking to understand the extended meaning of a word

下雨天时 --> 空气潮湿 --> 东西发霉

When it rains --> the air turn humid --> things get moldy

**Edit**:

According to this [story](https://www.chinlingo.com/articles/600769/), 倒霉 was originally written as 倒楣

But we can still interpret 倒霉 as 倒运， 霉运 = bad luck / unlucky

霉运 = 烂运， 坏运 -- things get moldy (霉) will turn rotten /bad (烂/ 坏)

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: It's seems have story, not really because rain..  [Door](https://kknews.cc/zh-tw/history/y5vn2pb.html)  

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