<blockquote>
  <p>有时就连你的父亲也未必信得过，更何况是陌生人。</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Sometimes you can't even trust your father, not to mention a stranger.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>有时连陌生人你也可以相信，更何况是你的父亲。</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Sometimes you can even trust a stranger, not to mention your father.</p>

<p>I think <code>even...not to mention</code> would be a proper translation for <code>连...更何况</code>, <code>也未必</code> is just a word indicate that the sentence is negative.</p>

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2014-10-29T18:16:16.713Z
how is 過used in the first example？
davidtingsu
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2017-10-26T03:48:38.817Z
@davidtingsu According to Pleco dictionary, it is used after 得 and means "deserving". So in this case it means "it deserves the trust" or "can trust enough".
Blaszard
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2014-10-28T02:35:55.457Z
2014-10-28T02:35:55.457Z
billyho
<ol>
<li>有时就连你的父亲也未必信得过，更何况是陌生人。</li>
<li>有时连陌生人你也可以相信，更何况是你的父亲。</li>
</ol>

<p>The challenging parts for me are <code>也未必</code> and <code>连…更何况</code>.</p>

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2014-10-28T00:22:49.970Z
未必 = not necessarily; 连…更何况 = even ..., much less ... Does that give you a clue?
Stumpy Joe Pete
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2014-10-28T00:33:39.590Z
Actually I think it should be 连 ... 也 together, which means "even ... also". Does that help you? OR perhaps it's what @StumpyJoePete said :P I'm not sure!
Ming
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2014-10-28T00:40:45.423Z
1. Sometimes even your father is not necessarily trustworthy, much less strangers. 2. Sometimes even even strangers are trustworthy, *let alone* your father. ([ref](http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/29878/the-phrase-let-alone)).
XoXo
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2014-10-28T00:42:00.347Z
For sentence #2, i don't think `much less` fits there (maybe `much more`, if it exists). Is there something else to replace `let alone`?
XoXo
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2014-10-28T01:09:15.137Z
@Ming The whole construction is something like "连 NP 也 VP, 更何况 NP VP". The 也 is part of it, but it's connected to the first of the two clauses. Jeff: That's a good observation about how "much less" works. I honestly can't think of a good-sounding translation for #2 ("let alone" sounds weird to me and "much more" isn't a real phrase).
Stumpy Joe Pete
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2014-10-28T01:23:48.953Z
@StumpyJoePete ahh I see, thanks for that :) "let alone" is perfect here though, that's how I read it in my mind.
Ming
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2014-10-28T02:11:16.860Z
@StumpyJoePete How about 'not to mention/not to say'?
NS.X.
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2014-10-28T03:31:24.523Z
@NS.X. Good idea.
Stumpy Joe Pete
<translation><preposition>
Help translate these two sentences with 也未必 and 更何况
# Help translate these two sentences with 也未必 and 更何况

(Asked by: username_0 on 2014-10-27)

1. 有时就连你的父亲也未必信得过，更何况是陌生人。
2. 有时连陌生人你也可以相信，更何况是你的父亲。

The challenging parts for me are `也未必` and `连…更何况`.

**Tags:** translation, preposition

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: 未必 = not necessarily; 连…更何况 = even ..., much less ... Does that give you a clue?  
> **username_2**: Actually I think it should be 连 ... 也 together, which means "even ... also". Does that help you? OR perhaps it's what @username_1 said :P I'm not sure!  
> **username_0**: 1. Sometimes even your father is not necessarily trustworthy, much less strangers. 2. Sometimes even even strangers are trustworthy, *let alone* your father. ([ref](http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/29878/the-phrase-let-alone)).  
> **username_0**: For sentence #2, i don't think `much less` fits there (maybe `much more`, if it exists). Is there something else to replace `let alone`?  
> **username_1**: @username_2 The whole construction is something like "连 NP 也 VP, 更何况 NP VP". The 也 is part of it, but it's connected to the first of the two clauses. Jeff: That's a good observation about how "much less" works. I honestly can't think of a good-sounding translation for #2 ("let alone" sounds weird to me and "much more" isn't a real phrase).  
> **username_2**: @username_1 ahh I see, thanks for that :) "let alone" is perfect here though, that's how I read it in my mind.  
> **username_3**: @username_1 How about 'not to mention/not to say'?  
> **username_1**: @NS.X. Good idea.  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_4 on 2014-10-28. Score: 4 | Accepted answer

> 有时就连你的父亲也未必信得过，更何况是陌生人。

Sometimes you can't even trust your father, not to mention a stranger.

> 有时连陌生人你也可以相信，更何况是你的父亲。

Sometimes you can even trust a stranger, not to mention your father.

I think `even...not to mention` would be a proper translation for `连...更何况`, `也未必` is just a word indicate that the sentence is negative.

> **Comments:**
> **username_5**: how is 過used in the first example？  
> **username_6**: @username_5 According to Pleco dictionary, it is used after 得 and means "deserving". So in this case it means "it deserves the trust" or "can trust enough".  

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