<p>the verse quoted is, well, different from the original text, which is in 道藏輯要 三丰全集 玄要篇下：</p>
<h1>蟄龍吟</h1>
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<p>睡神仙・睡神仙・石根高臥忘其年・三光沉淪性自圓・氣氣歸玄竅・息息任天然・莫散亂・須安恬・<strong>温養得汞性兒圓・等待他鉛花兒現</strong>・無走失・有防閑・眞火候・運中間・行七返・不艱難・煉九還・何嗟嘆・靜觀龍虎戰場戰・暗把陰陽顚倒顚・人言我是矇矓漢・我卻眠兮眠未眠・學就了眞臥禪・養成了眞胎元・臥龍一起便昇天・此蟄法・是誰傳・曲肱而枕自尼山・樂在其中無人諳・五龍飛躍出深潭・天將此法傳圖南・圖南一派儔能繼・邋遢道人張丰仙</p>
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<p>in taoism, the lead (鉛) - mercury (汞), dragon (龍) - tiger (虎) are metaphor. depends on the alchemy (external or internal); and sects, these terms might be explained diversely.</p>
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<p>Is this translation on the right track? I'm particularly not unsure whether “儿” in this phrase is supposed to be a diminutive suffix or not</p>
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<p>on the right track? i believe not. “兒”, yes, a diminutive suffix.</p>
<p>try this page, in english, not too peculiar </p>
<p><a href="https://deeptrancenow.com/exc_taoist_language.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://deeptrancenow.com/exc_taoist_language.htm</a></p>

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儿 has no meaning, OP's quotes also make sense, you can place 儿 anywhere after nouns. Taoist priest 炼丹, they usually play with the lead, mercury, and other things to make 丹, but it always hurt their health, they just don't know.
sfy
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水巷孑蠻
<p>I'm currently translating a poem from a Tai Chi Manual about &quot;Sleeping Immortal&quot; (睡仙歌）, a related style of Qigong. The following passage seems to contain a lot of alchemical symbolism, and my current translation is as follows：</p>
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<p>养得汞儿性圆，等待他铅儿花现。</p>
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<p>“Cultivate Mercury, with a circular nature.
Wait for his Lead to appear like a blossom.&quot;</p>
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<p>Is this translation on the right track? I'm particularly not unsure whether “儿” in this phrase is supposed to be a diminutive suffix or not.</p>

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2020-10-10T00:18:25.630Z
Mercury is light; lead is heavy. they are  used here to represent the light and heavy Qi
Tang Ho
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2020-10-10T01:55:06.877Z
The density of mercury is 13.5 g/cm3 while that of lead is 11.3 g/cm3. Mercury is denser, heavier than lead.
joehua
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Here is a reference that might help https://m.sohu.com/a/24672861_114748/?pvid=000115_3w_a
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In both cases, you seem to have transposed 兒with the character next to it. 鉛花 is a proper noun. Any translation that relates 花 to flower or blossom is probably incorrect.
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How do you translate 养得汞儿性圆，等待他铅儿花现 in a text about 睡仙气功?
# How do you translate 养得汞儿性圆，等待他铅儿花现 in a text about 睡仙气功?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2020-10-10)

I'm currently translating a poem from a Tai Chi Manual about "Sleeping Immortal" (睡仙歌）, a related style of Qigong. The following passage seems to contain a lot of alchemical symbolism, and my current translation is as follows：

> 养得汞儿性圆，等待他铅儿花现。

> “Cultivate Mercury, with a circular nature.
> Wait for his Lead to appear like a blossom."

Is this translation on the right track? I'm particularly not unsure whether “儿” in this phrase is supposed to be a diminutive suffix or not.

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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Mercury is light; lead is heavy. they are  used here to represent the light and heavy Qi  
> **username_2**: The density of mercury is 13.5 g/cm3 while that of lead is 11.3 g/cm3. Mercury is denser, heavier than lead.  
> **username_3**: Here is a reference that might help https://m.sohu.com/a/24672861_114748/?pvid=000115_3w_a  
> **username_2**: In both cases, you seem to have transposed 兒with the character next to it. 鉛花 is a proper noun. Any translation that relates 花 to flower or blossom is probably incorrect.  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_4 on 2020-10-10. Score: 1

the verse quoted is, well, different from the original text, which is in 道藏輯要 三丰全集 玄要篇下：

# 蟄龍吟

> 睡神仙・睡神仙・石根高臥忘其年・三光沉淪性自圓・氣氣歸玄竅・息息任天然・莫散亂・須安恬・**温養得汞性兒圓・等待他鉛花兒現**・無走失・有防閑・眞火候・運中間・行七返・不艱難・煉九還・何嗟嘆・靜觀龍虎戰場戰・暗把陰陽顚倒顚・人言我是矇矓漢・我卻眠兮眠未眠・學就了眞臥禪・養成了眞胎元・臥龍一起便昇天・此蟄法・是誰傳・曲肱而枕自尼山・樂在其中無人諳・五龍飛躍出深潭・天將此法傳圖南・圖南一派儔能繼・邋遢道人張丰仙

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in taoism, the lead (鉛) - mercury (汞), dragon (龍) - tiger (虎) are metaphor. depends on the alchemy (external or internal); and sects, these terms might be explained diversely.

> Is this translation on the right track? I'm particularly not unsure whether “儿” in this phrase is supposed to be a diminutive suffix or not

on the right track? i believe not. “兒”, yes, a diminutive suffix.

try this page, in english, not too peculiar

<https://deeptrancenow.com/exc_taoist_language.htm>

> **Comments:**
> **username_5**: 儿 has no meaning, OP's quotes also make sense, you can place 儿 anywhere after nouns. Taoist priest 炼丹, they usually play with the lead, mercury, and other things to make 丹, but it always hurt their health, they just don't know.  

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