<p>The first sentence is grammatically incorrect(not idiomatic). It sounds like no-Chinese speaker trying to speak Chinese. 你看完过 means you finished reading the novel before.</p>

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user614287
<p>Normally, it is either:</p>

<p>你[看过]那部小说没有? = [Had] you [read] that novel?</p>

<p>or </p>

<p>你[看完]那部小说没有? = [Have] you [finished] reading that novel?</p>

<ul>
<li><p>看(verb) + 过(verb particle) <em>marking 'experiential' aspect</em> = "had read"</p></li>
<li><p>看(verb) + 完(result complement) <em>marking 'complete or finish' aspect</em> = "finish reading"</p></li>
</ul>

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  <p>in "你看过完那部小说没有?" (had you read finish that novel?), '看过'(had read) already indicated you finished reading the book in the past, '完' is redundant here.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>~</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>in "你看完过那部小说没有？" (had you ever finish reading the novel?) '看完'(finish reading) already indicated you had finish reading it,  '过' is also redundant 
  here. This implies  'you had tried to read that novel before, but had never been successful in finish it.'</p>
</blockquote>

<p>This question only make sense if someone pick up a novel and only read half of it, then few weeks later pick it up again, read it from the start and stop at the middle again. Kind of weird, right? </p>

<p>~</p>

<p>A more sensible examples of [V] +[result complement]+ [过 (verb particle)]:</p>

<p>看见过 (had seen)</p>

<ul>
<li><p>看(verb- <strong>to see</strong>) </p></li>
<li><p>见 (result complement- <strong>and successfully seen</strong>)</p></li>
<li><p>过 (verb particle) - <em>marking 'experiential' aspect- <strong>had experienced</em></strong></p></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>conclusion:</strong> </p>

<p>[Verb + 过] cannot be followed by '完'(redundant)</p>

<p>[Verb + 完 + 过] indicate "had finished (verb) before"</p>

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Good job covering the grammar question _and_ pointing out that it's not a great example _and_ coming up with a better one.
Stumpy Joe Pete
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Tang Ho
<p>Disclaim: the following are totally my personal idea. Maybe I am incorrect, but I think these are valid. </p>

<p>Neither of them is right to my ear. I would say </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>你（以前）看过那部小说没有？//// Have you read that novel?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>and </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>你看完那部小说没有？////
  Have you finished that novel?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>过 just mean you did something, while 完 indicates that you finished that thing. Fortunately your 2nd choice could be understood by natives, which is equivalent to my 2nd sentence, i.e. the 过 is automatically omitted when people listen to you. </p>

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xbh
<p>I know that both of these follow the verb, but which order do they go in?</p>

<p>Do you say 你看过完那部小说没有 or 你看完过那部小说没有？</p>

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The latter. The former one is just wrong grammatically.
炸鱼薯条德里克
<word-order>
Result complement plus 过
# Result complement plus 过

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-11-25)

I know that both of these follow the verb, but which order do they go in?

Do you say 你看过完那部小说没有 or 你看完过那部小说没有？

**Tags:** word-order

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: The latter. The former one is just wrong grammatically.  

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## 3 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2018-11-25. Score: 1 | Accepted answer

The first sentence is grammatically incorrect(not idiomatic). It sounds like no-Chinese speaker trying to speak Chinese. 你看完过 means you finished reading the novel before.


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### Answer by username_3 on 2018-11-25. Score: 2

Normally, it is either:

你[看过]那部小说没有? = [Had] you [read] that novel?

or

你[看完]那部小说没有? = [Have] you [finished] reading that novel?

* 看(verb) + 过(verb particle) *marking 'experiential' aspect* = "had read"
* 看(verb) + 完(result complement) *marking 'complete or finish' aspect* = "finish reading"

> in "你看过完那部小说没有?" (had you read finish that novel?), '看过'(had read) already indicated you finished reading the book in the past, '完' is redundant here.

~

> in "你看完过那部小说没有？" (had you ever finish reading the novel?) '看完'(finish reading) already indicated you had finish reading it, '过' is also redundant
> here. This implies 'you had tried to read that novel before, but had never been successful in finish it.'

This question only make sense if someone pick up a novel and only read half of it, then few weeks later pick it up again, read it from the start and stop at the middle again. Kind of weird, right?

~

A more sensible examples of [V] +[result complement]+ [过 (verb particle)]:

看见过 (had seen)

* 看(verb- **to see**)
* 见 (result complement- **and successfully seen**)
* 过 (verb particle) - *marking 'experiential' aspect- **had experienced***

**conclusion:**

[Verb + 过] cannot be followed by '完'(redundant)

[Verb + 完 + 过] indicate "had finished (verb) before"

> **Comments:**
> **username_4**: Good job covering the grammar question _and_ pointing out that it's not a great example _and_ coming up with a better one.  

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### Answer by username_5 on 2018-11-25. Score: 1

Disclaim: the following are totally my personal idea. Maybe I am incorrect, but I think these are valid.

Neither of them is right to my ear. I would say

> 你（以前）看过那部小说没有？//// Have you read that novel?

and

> 你看完那部小说没有？////
> Have you finished that novel?

过 just mean you did something, while 完 indicates that you finished that thing. Fortunately your 2nd choice could be understood by natives, which is equivalent to my 2nd sentence, i.e. the 过 is automatically omitted when people listen to you.


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