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<li><p>"前排的牙齿脱落" means "the entire front row of teeth drops off"</p></li>
<li><p>前排的牙齿<strong>有</strong>脱落 is short for "前排的牙齿<strong>有</strong>脱落(的部分)" which
means "the front row of teeth <strong>has</strong> dropped off (parts)" </p></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>脱落</strong> in the second sentence is in effect a <strong>noun</strong> for "脱落(的部分)" - "dropped off (parts)"</p>

<p>If you don't want "前排的牙齿" to imply it is "the entire front row of teeth "  it  has to be changed to "前排有牙齿" (the front row has some teeth)</p>

<p>Unlike in English, Chinese language doesn't use verb tenses. For example, both 'is' and 'was'  is written as '是' in Chinese.</p>

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You explain that "的部分" is omitted in that sentence. Could the 的 be kept to make it more clear?
Philipp
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Yes,  you can say: "前排的牙齿有脱落(的)" - the front row of teeth has (some) dropped off .--  In this case, '有脱落(的)' modifies the noun '前排的牙齿 (the front row of teeth),
Tang Ho
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earlier comment #1 confirmed!
user6065
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Thanks a lot! I swear by God, Chinese will drive me crazy with all the bits it leaves out! Is it really too much trouble for them to write an extra '的部分’？ Grrrr!
Pedroski
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@Pedroski  English use adjective as noun too. for example: " The good, the bad and the ugly" actually means " The good (one), the bad (one) and the ugly (one) " with the noun "one" omitted.
Tang Ho
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I edited my post. What do you think of '你有去过上海吗？'
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Tang Ho
<p>Just as you said, "脱落" here is more like past tense, but not past perfect tense. To refer the condition of the teeth.</p>

<p>Just like die - dead.</p>

<p>To be honest, "只要前排的牙齿脱落，" is also make sense to me. So what I would say both way are OK. </p>

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<p>This text is talking about sharks.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>很多鲨鱼口中都有成排的利齿。 只要前排的牙齿有脱落，后方的牙齿便会补上，而且新牙齿更大、更耐用。</p>
<p>脱落： 脱掉;落下</p>
</blockquote>
<p>只要前排的牙齿<strong>有</strong>脱落， Why not just write '只要前排的牙齿脱落，'?</p>
<p>Is this supposed to be some kind of Chinese Past Perfect Tense 'have fallen out'? Has the author been reading too much English?</p>
<p>Edit: I hear that in Chinese people might say:</p>
<p>你去过上海吗？ 或者 你有去过上海吗？<br />
你吃过苹果吗？ 或者 你有吃过苹果吗？</p>
<p>What is this use of 有？ Something else omitted? '的经验‘ maybe？？</p>

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another suggestion: 只要前排的牙齿有脱落 short for 只要前排的牙齿有脱落的[牙齿] (same meaning as one of below answers, at present #1))
user6065
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Why use 有 in 只要前排的牙齿有脱落... about shark teeth?
# Why use 有 in 只要前排的牙齿有脱落... about shark teeth?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-10-06)

This text is talking about sharks.

> 很多鲨鱼口中都有成排的利齿。 只要前排的牙齿有脱落，后方的牙齿便会补上，而且新牙齿更大、更耐用。
>
> 脱落： 脱掉;落下

只要前排的牙齿**有**脱落， Why not just write '只要前排的牙齿脱落，'?

Is this supposed to be some kind of Chinese Past Perfect Tense 'have fallen out'? Has the author been reading too much English?

Edit: I hear that in Chinese people might say:

你去过上海吗？ 或者 你有去过上海吗？  
你吃过苹果吗？ 或者 你有吃过苹果吗？

What is this use of 有？ Something else omitted? '的经验‘ maybe？？

**Tags:** meaning, usage

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: another suggestion: 只要前排的牙齿有脱落 short for 只要前排的牙齿有脱落的[牙齿] (same meaning as one of below answers, at present #1))  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2017-10-06. Score: 3

* "前排的牙齿脱落" means "the entire front row of teeth drops off"
* 前排的牙齿**有**脱落 is short for "前排的牙齿**有**脱落(的部分)" which
  means "the front row of teeth **has** dropped off (parts)"

**脱落** in the second sentence is in effect a **noun** for "脱落(的部分)" - "dropped off (parts)"

If you don't want "前排的牙齿" to imply it is "the entire front row of teeth " it has to be changed to "前排有牙齿" (the front row has some teeth)

Unlike in English, Chinese language doesn't use verb tenses. For example, both 'is' and 'was' is written as '是' in Chinese.

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: You explain that "的部分" is omitted in that sentence. Could the 的 be kept to make it more clear?  
> **username_2**: Yes,  you can say: "前排的牙齿有脱落(的)" - the front row of teeth has (some) dropped off .--  In this case, '有脱落(的)' modifies the noun '前排的牙齿 (the front row of teeth),  
> **username_1**: earlier comment #1 confirmed!  
> **username_0**: Thanks a lot! I swear by God, Chinese will drive me crazy with all the bits it leaves out! Is it really too much trouble for them to write an extra '的部分’？ Grrrr!  
> **username_2**: @username_0  English use adjective as noun too. for example: " The good, the bad and the ugly" actually means " The good (one), the bad (one) and the ugly (one) " with the noun "one" omitted.  
> **username_0**: I edited my post. What do you think of '你有去过上海吗？'  

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### Answer by username_4 on 2017-10-06. Score: 1

Just as you said, "脱落" here is more like past tense, but not past perfect tense. To refer the condition of the teeth.

Just like die - dead.

To be honest, "只要前排的牙齿脱落，" is also make sense to me. So what I would say both way are OK.


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