<p>了 indicated completeness of the verb</p>
<p>昨天我从火车站出来的时候,天下了大雨。 Would mean the rain has stopped. It is incompatible with 的时候 (the time/ moment)</p>
<p>It should be 昨天我从火车站出来的时候,天(正)下<strong>著</strong>大雨。(It was raining at that moment) or 昨天我从火车站出来的时候,天下(起)了大雨。(it started raining at that moment)</p>

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Tang Ho
<p>I think the answer should be 2, instead of 1.</p>
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<p>鲸的体形像鱼,但却是用肺呼吸、胎生的哺乳动物。</p>
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<p>The topic is 鲸, not 鲸的体形. So, it should be something like:</p>
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<p>鲸, (它的)体形像鱼,但却是用肺呼吸、胎生的哺乳动物。</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Basically, it mixed up the subjects of 鲸 and 鲸的体形. It might be okay in spoken, but not in the formal writing.</p>

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That is a good point!  Many other answers follow the this logic, such as 7月的内蒙古**草原**,是一个美丽的**季节** and **中国**是扇子的故乡,**在中国**有着悠久的历史.
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It is just a simple case of omitting the  subject 鲸的体形像鱼,但(它)却是用肺呼吸、胎生的哺乳动物。
Tang Ho
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similarly,  車沒有腳，但(車)卻被稱為代步工具 -->車沒有腳，但(它)卻被稱為代步工具 -->  車沒有腳，但(subject is 車)卻被稱為代步工具
Tang Ho
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@TangHo Well, your sentence "車沒有腳，但(車)卻被稱為代步工具" is different from "鲸的体形像鱼,但却是用肺呼吸、胎生的哺乳动物。", where additional 的 makes it wrong. If it wrote 鲸体形像鱼,但却是用肺呼吸、胎生的哺乳动物, then it would be acceptable.
dan
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dan
<p>The problem is with the aspect.</p>
<p>昨天我从火车站出来的时候 is a point of time, while 了 is a dynamic perfect particle. According to the context, the sentence is meant to say that it <em>was raining</em> when I got out of the train station yesterday. Thus 下了 should be changed to 下着 or 正在下.</p>
<p>It's wrong to say 严格说来要介词. At the sentence-initial position, the temporal phrase uses the unmarked form, i.e. a bare NP. Note that the unmarked temporal phrase should be thought as a separate form of temporal phrases, not as ellipsis of the coverb.</p>

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lilysirius
<p>This is a HSK6 语病 question, wherein precisely one sentence is ungrammatical in some way:</p>
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<ol>
<li>昨天我从火车站出来的时候,天下了大雨。</li>
<li>鲸的体形像鱼,但却是用肺呼吸、胎生的哺乳动物。</li>
<li>伤害人的话语就像泼出去的水,一旦说出就永远无法收回。</li>
<li>有个成语叫“熟能生巧”,这里的“巧”其实就是不断重复练习的结果。</li>
</ol>
<p><sub>HSK6 H61218 Q.54</sub></p>
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<p>The <a href="https://archive.org/details/elsey_HSK6" rel="nofollow noreferrer">given answer</a> is 1, but three native speakers <a href="https://zh.hinative.com/questions/10795686" rel="nofollow noreferrer">here</a> and <a href="https://zh.hinative.com/questions/18788781" rel="nofollow noreferrer">here</a> didn't find any major issues with it; one wrote: 前句无介词（我不确定，严格说来要介词）.  This makes me wonder if any of these sentences are ungrammatical.  I don't see any errors myself.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>: Does the HSK6 exam paper H61218 question 54 (语病) have a correct answer?</p>
<p>(PS. For precedent, the correct answer to H61008 Q.53 is B, but the official answer is C.  So the answers are not infallible.)</p>

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Does the HSK6 exam paper H61218 question 54 (语病) have a correct answer?
# Does the HSK6 exam paper H61218 question 54 (语病) have a correct answer?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2022-02-17)

This is a HSK6 语病 question, wherein precisely one sentence is ungrammatical in some way:

> 1. 昨天我从火车站出来的时候,天下了大雨。
> 2. 鲸的体形像鱼,但却是用肺呼吸、胎生的哺乳动物。
> 3. 伤害人的话语就像泼出去的水,一旦说出就永远无法收回。
> 4. 有个成语叫“熟能生巧”,这里的“巧”其实就是不断重复练习的结果。
>
> HSK6 H61218 Q.54

The [given answer](https://archive.org/details/elsey_HSK6) is 1, but three native speakers [here](https://zh.hinative.com/questions/10795686) and [here](https://zh.hinative.com/questions/18788781) didn't find any major issues with it; one wrote: 前句无介词（我不确定，严格说来要介词）. This makes me wonder if any of these sentences are ungrammatical. I don't see any errors myself.

**Question**: Does the HSK6 exam paper H61218 question 54 (语病) have a correct answer?

(PS. For precedent, the correct answer to H61008 Q.53 is B, but the official answer is C. So the answers are not infallible.)

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### Answer by username_3 on 2022-02-17. Score: 6 | Accepted answer

The problem is with the aspect.

昨天我从火车站出来的时候 is a point of time, while 了 is a dynamic perfect particle. According to the context, the sentence is meant to say that it *was raining* when I got out of the train station yesterday. Thus 下了 should be changed to 下着 or 正在下.

It's wrong to say 严格说来要介词. At the sentence-initial position, the temporal phrase uses the unmarked form, i.e. a bare NP. Note that the unmarked temporal phrase should be thought as a separate form of temporal phrases, not as ellipsis of the coverb.


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### Answer by username_1 on 2022-02-17. Score: 4

了 indicated completeness of the verb

昨天我从火车站出来的时候,天下了大雨。 Would mean the rain has stopped. It is incompatible with 的时候 (the time/ moment)

It should be 昨天我从火车站出来的时候,天(正)下**著**大雨。(It was raining at that moment) or 昨天我从火车站出来的时候,天下(起)了大雨。(it started raining at that moment)


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### Answer by username_2 on 2022-02-17. Score: 2

I think the answer should be 2, instead of 1.

> 鲸的体形像鱼,但却是用肺呼吸、胎生的哺乳动物。

The topic is 鲸, not 鲸的体形. So, it should be something like:

> 鲸, (它的)体形像鱼,但却是用肺呼吸、胎生的哺乳动物。

Basically, it mixed up the subjects of 鲸 and 鲸的体形. It might be okay in spoken, but not in the formal writing.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: That is a good point!  Many other answers follow the this logic, such as 7月的内蒙古**草原**,是一个美丽的**季节** and **中国**是扇子的故乡,**在中国**有着悠久的历史.  
> **username_1**: It is just a simple case of omitting the  subject 鲸的体形像鱼,但(它)却是用肺呼吸、胎生的哺乳动物。  
> **username_1**: similarly,  車沒有腳，但(車)卻被稱為代步工具 -->車沒有腳，但(它)卻被稱為代步工具 -->  車沒有腳，但(subject is 車)卻被稱為代步工具  
> **username_2**: @username_1 Well, your sentence "車沒有腳，但(車)卻被稱為代步工具" is different from "鲸的体形像鱼,但却是用肺呼吸、胎生的哺乳动物。", where additional 的 makes it wrong. If it wrote 鲸体形像鱼,但却是用肺呼吸、胎生的哺乳动物, then it would be acceptable.  

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