<p>First I'll state that you can use whatever Chinese names you want; unlike western names which often have standard names from the bible for example, theoretically you can use any combination of the thousands of Chinese characters to form a name.</p>

<p>This means that there are so many choices that it's hard to decide on the name, so most parents use some convention or system to help them pick names. Nowadays the traditional naming systems have long fallen out of favour, so there's nothing stopping you from using any convention, system, or no system for the names.</p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_given_name" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_given_name</a></p>

<p><strong>Same character for siblings</strong></p>

<p>A common convention, as you noted, is using the same character in the same position for two-character names. The repeated character is usually in the first position.</p>

<p><strong>Splitting words</strong></p>

<p>Another common convention is to name siblings by splitting a word or idiom. An example would be naming the first child 健 and the second child 康. You could combine this convention with the same character convention.</p>

<p><a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%A1%8C%E8%BE%88" rel="nofollow"><strong>Generation names</strong></a></p>

<p>A tradition that has largely fallen out of practice since Republic times is the use of generation names - every sibling in the same generation would contain a certain character, and the characters would often form a generational poem. For example, Mao Zedong's family had the following poem, and he was the 14th generation: "立显荣朝士，文方运际祥。祖恩贻泽远，世代永承昌". Note that Mao Zedong himself broke with this system in naming his children.</p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtesy_name" rel="nofollow"><strong>Birth order in courtesy names</strong></a></p>

<p>Another tradition that has also become archaic together with courtesy names is the use of special characters to denote birth order within the same generation. These are bó (伯) for the first, zhòng (仲) for the second, shū (叔) for the third, and jì (季) typically for the youngest. For example, Confucius's courtesy name was Zhòngní (仲尼), meaning he was the second son.</p>

<p>I believe that the generation names and birth order names are the only proper naming systems, which influenced the conventions used today. For example, the use of generation names would give the appearance of using the same character for all siblings, but the repeated character is not arbitrary. These naming conventions are also used with daughters, when traditionally these systems were only used for sons. In other words, these conventions are not followed strictly at all, so you can use any convention or system you like. Unless you're superstitious that is, in which case you could try a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literomancy" rel="nofollow">literomancer</a>.</p>

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<p>What traditions do Chinese people follow when selecting names for consecutive (2nd, 3rd etc.) children？</p>

<p>In the case of my own children the second child was given the same middle character as my oldest son so they are both called 赵"something"恩.</p>

<p>My questions:</p>

<ul>
<li>Is this the only way that it is done or can the last character be swapped out?</li>
<li>What is done if the first child is a girl, does it make a difference if the next is a boy?</li>
<li>I once met a guy called 王一男 what would happen if the next is a boy, would it be 王二男? What if the second child were a girl, would it be 王二女?</li>
<li>Are there any other ways that Chinese people show that children are consecutive children from the same family besides what I have described above (numbering, repeating characters etc.)</li>
</ul>

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Another way people name consecutive children is breaking a word into single characters and sequentially putting them into children's names. For example the famous physicist `丁肇中` and [his brothers](http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%81%E8%82%87%E4%B8%AD#.E5.AE.B6.E5.BA.AD).
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@AgreeOrNot I had a professor named 赵启光, with two older brothers 赵启正 and 赵启大 (presumably, if there had been a 4th, he would have been 赵启明)
Stumpy Joe Pete
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@StumpyJoePete Yeah, just like that. And if you show someone these names, he will immediately figure out that they're siblings if he knows the word `正大光明`.
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@StumpyJoePete, this is an excellent example. Normally, it would be the last character that is swapped, not the middle one.
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I guess the swapped first character in the given name may originate from Japan: 太郎、次郎、三郎 (yet Japanese convention also allows swapping the second character: 正一、正二).
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What traditions do people follow when naming a second child in Chinese?
# What traditions do people follow when naming a second child in Chinese?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2013-09-22)

What traditions do Chinese people follow when selecting names for consecutive (2nd, 3rd etc.) children？

In the case of my own children the second child was given the same middle character as my oldest son so they are both called 赵"something"恩.

My questions:

* Is this the only way that it is done or can the last character be swapped out?
* What is done if the first child is a girl, does it make a difference if the next is a boy?
* I once met a guy called 王一男 what would happen if the next is a boy, would it be 王二男? What if the second child were a girl, would it be 王二女?
* Are there any other ways that Chinese people show that children are consecutive children from the same family besides what I have described above (numbering, repeating characters etc.)

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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Another way people name consecutive children is breaking a word into single characters and sequentially putting them into children's names. For example the famous physicist `丁肇中` and [his brothers](http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%81%E8%82%87%E4%B8%AD#.E5.AE.B6.E5.BA.AD).  
> **username_2**: @AgreeOrNot I had a professor named 赵启光, with two older brothers 赵启正 and 赵启大 (presumably, if there had been a 4th, he would have been 赵启明)  
> **username_1**: @username_2 Yeah, just like that. And if you show someone these names, he will immediately figure out that they're siblings if he knows the word `正大光明`.  
> **username_3**: @username_2, this is an excellent example. Normally, it would be the last character that is swapped, not the middle one.  
> **username_4**: I guess the swapped first character in the given name may originate from Japan: 太郎、次郎、三郎 (yet Japanese convention also allows swapping the second character: 正一、正二).  

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### Answer by username_5 on 2013-09-23. Score: 4

First I'll state that you can use whatever Chinese names you want; unlike western names which often have standard names from the bible for example, theoretically you can use any combination of the thousands of Chinese characters to form a name.

This means that there are so many choices that it's hard to decide on the name, so most parents use some convention or system to help them pick names. Nowadays the traditional naming systems have long fallen out of favour, so there's nothing stopping you from using any convention, system, or no system for the names.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_given_name>

**Same character for siblings**

A common convention, as you noted, is using the same character in the same position for two-character names. The repeated character is usually in the first position.

**Splitting words**

Another common convention is to name siblings by splitting a word or idiom. An example would be naming the first child 健 and the second child 康. You could combine this convention with the same character convention.

[**Generation names**](https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%A1%8C%E8%BE%88)

A tradition that has largely fallen out of practice since Republic times is the use of generation names - every sibling in the same generation would contain a certain character, and the characters would often form a generational poem. For example, Mao Zedong's family had the following poem, and he was the 14th generation: "立显荣朝士，文方运际祥。祖恩贻泽远，世代永承昌". Note that Mao Zedong himself broke with this system in naming his children.

[**Birth order in courtesy names**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtesy_name)

Another tradition that has also become archaic together with courtesy names is the use of special characters to denote birth order within the same generation. These are bó (伯) for the first, zhòng (仲) for the second, shū (叔) for the third, and jì (季) typically for the youngest. For example, Confucius's courtesy name was Zhòngní (仲尼), meaning he was the second son.

I believe that the generation names and birth order names are the only proper naming systems, which influenced the conventions used today. For example, the use of generation names would give the appearance of using the same character for all siblings, but the repeated character is not arbitrary. These naming conventions are also used with daughters, when traditionally these systems were only used for sons. In other words, these conventions are not followed strictly at all, so you can use any convention or system you like. Unless you're superstitious that is, in which case you could try a [literomancer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literomancy).


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