<p>I got my answer.</p>

<p>Both the left-falling dian and the short pie look identical when not using a brush.</p>

<p>Both are drawn from top to bottom.</p>

<p>The difference is where the sharp end and the rounded end are.</p>

<p>Dian: Start with a sharp end and draw down finishing with a rounded end. Like a drop of water.</p>

<p>Pie: Start by drawing a rounded end at the top and then work down finishing with a sharp end going down. Like the drop of water upside-down.</p>

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2020-04-05T12:38:55.060Z
2020-04-05T12:38:55.060Z
Kantura
<p>Consider the character 您</p>

<p>My dictionary says that the 6th stroke is 撇 whereas the 8th stroke is 点.</p>

<p>Is there a difference between how these strokes are written ?</p>

<p>I mean the short 撇 in 你 and the left falling 点 in 心.</p>

<p>They look identical to me.</p>

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2020-04-05T06:23:25.960Z
The Eight Principles of [Yong](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Principles_of_Yong)  explain how to write eight common strokes in regular script
jack chiou
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2020-04-05T06:34:49.770Z
You need to see it written with a calligraphy brush, which was how all Chinese characters were written originally. Normal computer graphical styles do not make such detail differences.
Wayne Cheah
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2020-04-05T07:07:56.790Z
There's [a YouTube video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeN36mv_c4) which confirms the claim.  (They look identical to me too.)
Becky 李蓓
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2020-04-05T09:45:08.373Z
Take a look at this. It's only about 11 minutes long. It's worth your while. https://youtu.be/wM4BuhTFxho
Wayne Cheah
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Is the 6-th stroke of 您 Pie or Dian?
# Is the 6-th stroke of 您 Pie or Dian?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2020-04-04)

Consider the character 您

My dictionary says that the 6th stroke is 撇 whereas the 8th stroke is 点.

Is there a difference between how these strokes are written ?

I mean the short 撇 in 你 and the left falling 点 in 心.

They look identical to me.

**Tags:** calligraphy, strokes

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: The Eight Principles of [Yong](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Principles_of_Yong)  explain how to write eight common strokes in regular script  
> **username_2**: You need to see it written with a calligraphy brush, which was how all Chinese characters were written originally. Normal computer graphical styles do not make such detail differences.  
> **username_3**: There's [a YouTube video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeN36mv_c4) which confirms the claim.  (They look identical to me too.)  
> **username_2**: Take a look at this. It's only about 11 minutes long. It's worth your while. https://youtu.be/wM4BuhTFxho  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_0 on 2020-04-05. Score: 2

I got my answer.

Both the left-falling dian and the short pie look identical when not using a brush.

Both are drawn from top to bottom.

The difference is where the sharp end and the rounded end are.

Dian: Start with a sharp end and draw down finishing with a rounded end. Like a drop of water.

Pie: Start by drawing a rounded end at the top and then work down finishing with a sharp end going down. Like the drop of water upside-down.


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