<p>In the past (e.g. 80's to 90's), when the Chinese IME did not implement fuzzy logic, the rule was you should use <code>v</code> for and only for <code>ü</code> as you would write on paper. For example for J you should type <code>ju</code> not <code>jv</code>.</p>

<p>Now all the mainstream Chinese IME (MSPY, Sogou, Google Pinyin, etc.) has fuzzy logic built-in and enabled by default. This question isn't much relevant anymore.</p>

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2014-06-28T20:08:47.677Z
2014-06-28T20:08:47.677Z
NS.X.
<p>V is not used in Chinese as a  consonant (声母), it was used to be ü as a <strong>vowel</strong> (Chinese called 韵母), like</p>

<p>lv -> 绿
xv -> 许</p>

<p>Is there a standard rule here? Should ü always be replaced with v in pinyin programs?
<strong>Yes</strong></p>

<p>What about after the J, Q, X and Y letters where ü is always implied, should I be hitting V or U on my keyboard?</p>

<p><strong>When used with JQXY ü is same as u in sogou , it is normal in internet ,  although they are 
different in  textbook.</strong></p>

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2014-06-30T02:58:39.483Z
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Alex
<p>v is not an Alphabet in official PINYIN system but an International Phonetic Alphabet.<br />
<code>ǘ</code> 读<code>愚,于,雨,遇</code><br />
But <code>Sougou</code> always using what is short for convenience.<br />
It's the most popular Chinese Input Method in China even Apple set it as default in OSX Mavericks.<br />
I think there are no strict rules,everything based on your own preferences. <br /></p>

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2014-06-30T09:13:54.407Z
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meeming
<p>A more direct answer:</p>

<ul>
<li><p>lv</p></li>
<li><p>nv</p></li>
<li><p>lve</p></li>
<li><p>nve</p></li>
</ul>

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2014-06-29T02:56:48.540Z
2014-06-29T02:56:48.540Z
Mou某
<p>I use a program called Sougou, which is very poopular in China I think. Sometimes I use the Microsoft pinyin language option.</p>

<p>Sougou is very good at guessing my characters based on context, but sometimes I have to click through to find my character, especially when it's character with  ü it seems.</p>

<ul>
<li><p>Is there a standard rule here? Should  ü always be replaced with v in pinyin programs?</p></li>
<li><p>What about after the J, Q, X and Y letters where  ü is always implied, should I be hitting V or U on my keyboard?</p></li>
</ul>

<p>Sorry for the simplistic question, I wish I could understand the sougou documentation, but it's still "chinese" to me. Thank you.</p>

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2014-06-28T20:21:57.337Z
Only when there's ambiguity. For instance, lu is a valid pinyin so lü becomes lv in the IME.
user58955
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When do I use V for Ü in Pinyin programs
# When do I use V for Ü in Pinyin programs

(Asked by: username_0 on 2014-06-28)

I use a program called Sougou, which is very poopular in China I think. Sometimes I use the Microsoft pinyin language option.

Sougou is very good at guessing my characters based on context, but sometimes I have to click through to find my character, especially when it's character with ü it seems.

* Is there a standard rule here? Should ü always be replaced with v in pinyin programs?
* What about after the J, Q, X and Y letters where ü is always implied, should I be hitting V or U on my keyboard?

Sorry for the simplistic question, I wish I could understand the sougou documentation, but it's still "chinese" to me. Thank you.

**Tags:** pinyin

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Only when there's ambiguity. For instance, lu is a valid pinyin so lü becomes lv in the IME.  

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## 4 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2014-06-28. Score: 2 | Accepted answer

In the past (e.g. 80's to 90's), when the Chinese IME did not implement fuzzy logic, the rule was you should use `v` for and only for `ü` as you would write on paper. For example for J you should type `ju` not `jv`.

Now all the mainstream Chinese IME (MSPY, Sogou, Google Pinyin, etc.) has fuzzy logic built-in and enabled by default. This question isn't much relevant anymore.


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### Answer by username_3 on 2014-06-30. Score: 0

V is not used in Chinese as a consonant (声母), it was used to be ü as a **vowel** (Chinese called 韵母), like

lv -> 绿
xv -> 许

Is there a standard rule here? Should ü always be replaced with v in pinyin programs?
**Yes**

What about after the J, Q, X and Y letters where ü is always implied, should I be hitting V or U on my keyboard?

**When used with JQXY ü is same as u in sogou , it is normal in internet , although they are
different in textbook.**


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### Answer by username_4 on 2014-06-30. Score: -1

v is not an Alphabet in official PINYIN system but an International Phonetic Alphabet.  
`ǘ` 读`愚,于,雨,遇`  
But `Sougou` always using what is short for convenience.  
It's the most popular Chinese Input Method in China even Apple set it as default in OSX Mavericks.  
I think there are no strict rules,everything based on your own preferences.


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### Answer by username_5 on 2014-06-29. Score: -1

A more direct answer:

* lv
* nv
* lve
* nve


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