<p>Yes, there are guidelines. We won't get confused in the 什 example because PRC had long contact with Russia, but we may get confused for some unfamiliar countries.</p>
<p>Note that this guideline is only made and followed by authors and editors in mainland China. Taiwan and Hong Kong all have their own standards due to divergence in pronunciation. What's more, Hongkong-neses prefer reading and writing in Cantonese.</p>
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<p>From the table, you can see that we use different characters for different syllables according to which language it is.</p>

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<p>The pronunciation of polyphonic character is usually deduced from the semantic of the context. In a transliterated word, there is no such context, the character only stands for its pronunciation, so it seems not a good idea to use polyphonic characters for that purpose.</p>

<p>However they are used in transliteration. For example <code>什</code> is extensively used for Russian names. More interestingly, there seems to be an agreement that in transliteration, its less common pronunciation <code>shi2</code> is always used instead of the more common <code>shen2</code>.</p>

<p>So my questions are, in transliteration field,</p>

<ol>
<li>Is there any guidelines around/against using polyphonic characters?</li>
<li>How does one decide which pronunciation is the 'agreed' one to use?</li>
<li>Is there any polyphonic character, of which multiple pronunciations are used for transliteration?</li>
</ol>

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1. No, that would rule out too many characters since most are polyphonic under the hood; 2. The rarer reading is often the agreed upon one in order to avoid semantic collision, and once agreed it becomes a template/convention; 3. Can't think of any, but if there is one, it might be different only because of different source languages where conventions are independently chosen.
Nimrod
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My guess is that there isn't any logic, and it's totally by convention. I'm looking forward to seeing if anyone has some useful information to share though :)
Stumpy Joe Pete
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This is a simplified Chinese issue (but not necessary started by the mainland Chinese government). When pronounced `shen2`, the actual character is `甚` as in `甚麼`. The Middle Chinese pronunciation of 什 is `dzyip`, and there was no -n or -m ending pronunciation. Still in Korean and Vietnamese today, 什 has only one pronounced with -p ending. The natural descendant of this pronunciation in today's mandarin is `shi2'.
user58955
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See [this answer](http://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/2658/2583) and [this wiki article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template%3aTranscription_into_Chinese). The characters chosen are via IPA to Chinese characters; 什 is always used for ʃ
congusbongus
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Another point is that two different pronunciations of a polyphonic character (such as 角, 薄) illustrate 白读音(vernacular pronunciation) and 文读音 (scholastic pronunciation) in history. For 角, `jiao` is 白读 and `jue` 文读; for 薄, `bao` is 白读 and `bo` 文读. Which is which concerns Middle Chinese pronunciation. Usually 文读音 is used in translation, that's why Berlin is 柏林 (`bo2 lin2`) although the usually pronunciation of 柏 (the name of the tree) is `bai3`.
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Use of polyphonic characters in transliteration
# Use of polyphonic characters in transliteration

(Asked by: username_0 on 2013-10-08)

The pronunciation of polyphonic character is usually deduced from the semantic of the context. In a transliterated word, there is no such context, the character only stands for its pronunciation, so it seems not a good idea to use polyphonic characters for that purpose.

However they are used in transliteration. For example `什` is extensively used for Russian names. More interestingly, there seems to be an agreement that in transliteration, its less common pronunciation `shi2` is always used instead of the more common `shen2`.

So my questions are, in transliteration field,

1. Is there any guidelines around/against using polyphonic characters?
2. How does one decide which pronunciation is the 'agreed' one to use?
3. Is there any polyphonic character, of which multiple pronunciations are used for transliteration?

**Tags:** translation, names, transliteration

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: My guess is that there isn't any logic, and it's totally by convention. I'm looking forward to seeing if anyone has some useful information to share though :)  
> **username_3**: This is a simplified Chinese issue (but not necessary started by the mainland Chinese government). When pronounced `shen2`, the actual character is `甚` as in `甚麼`. The Middle Chinese pronunciation of 什 is `dzyip`, and there was no -n or -m ending pronunciation. Still in Korean and Vietnamese today, 什 has only one pronounced with -p ending. The natural descendant of this pronunciation in today's mandarin is `shi2'.  
> **username_4**: See [this answer](http://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/2658/2583) and [this wiki article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template%3aTranscription_into_Chinese). The characters chosen are via IPA to Chinese characters; 什 is always used for ʃ  
> **username_3**: Another point is that two different pronunciations of a polyphonic character (such as 角, 薄) illustrate 白读音(vernacular pronunciation) and 文读音 (scholastic pronunciation) in history. For 角, `jiao` is 白读 and `jue` 文读; for 薄, `bao` is 白读 and `bo` 文读. Which is which concerns Middle Chinese pronunciation. Usually 文读音 is used in translation, that's why Berlin is 柏林 (`bo2 lin2`) although the usually pronunciation of 柏 (the name of the tree) is `bai3`.  
> **username_1**: 1. No, that would rule out too many characters since most are polyphonic under the hood; 2. The rarer reading is often the agreed upon one in order to avoid semantic collision, and once agreed it becomes a template/convention; 3. Can't think of any, but if there is one, it might be different only because of different source languages where conventions are independently chosen.  

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### Answer by username_5 on 2013-12-21. Score: 2

Yes, there are guidelines. We won't get confused in the 什 example because PRC had long contact with Russia, but we may get confused for some unfamiliar countries.

Note that this guideline is only made and followed by authors and editors in mainland China. Taiwan and Hong Kong all have their own standards due to divergence in pronunciation. What's more, Hongkong-neses prefer reading and writing in Cantonese.

[![A translation guide for transliterating specific names in mainland China.](https://i.sstatic.net/KFFQZ.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/KFFQZ.jpg)

From the table, you can see that we use different characters for different syllables according to which language it is.


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