<h2>Etymology of 一, 二, and 三</h2>

<ul>
<li><h3><a href="http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3598" rel="noreferrer">Explanation of 一/二/三 in 象形字典 (<em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>)</a></h3>

<blockquote>
  <p>“一”是特殊指事字，抽象符号“一”既代表最为简单的起源，也代表最为丰富的浑沌整体。造字本义：最小原始单位，最小的正整数。古人认为“道立于一，一生二，二生三，三生万物”。就是说，混沌太初的存在整体是“一”；然后由太初混沌的“一”，分出天地“二”极；天地二极之间，又生出人这第“三”部分；天地人三者，衍化出宇宙万物。一 ，代替混沌太初的整体；二，上面的一横代表“天”，下面的一横代表“地”；三，上下两横代表“天地”，中间的一横代表“人”。</p>
  
  <p>一 is a special self-explanatory character. The abstract symbol <code>一</code> presents not only the simplest origin, but also the abundant chaos entirety. The original idea of character construction: the smallest basic unit, the smallest positive integer. Ancient Chinese people thought "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao" rel="noreferrer">Tao</a> stands on <code>一</code>(<em>one</em>), <code>一</code>(<em>one</em>) bears <code>二</code>(<em>two</em>), <code>二</code>(<em>two</em>) bears <code>三</code>(<em>three</em>), <code>三</code>(<em>three</em>) bears everything". That is to say, the entity of original chaos is <code>一</code>; then the chaos origin <code>一</code> differentiates into <code>二极</code>(<em>two extremes</em>), the sky and the earth; and between the two extremes, there breed humans (the <code>三</code>); And finally, everything in the universe are derived from the sky, the earth and the humans. In conclusion, 一 presents the whole of the chaos origin; 二, the top bar stands for the sky and the bottom bar stands for the earth; 三, the top and the bottom is respectively the sky and the earth, the middle represents humans.</p>
  
  <p><strong>My Annotation</strong>: The statement "道立于一" (Tao stands on <em>one</em>) is a little different from "道生一" (Tao gives birth to <em>one</em>) in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao_Te_Ching" rel="noreferrer"><em>Tao Te Ching</em></a>. This paper <a href="http://www.cnki.com.cn/Article/CJFDTotal-JMDZ20050100C.htm" rel="noreferrer"><em>“道生一” “道始於一” “道立於一” 合解</em></a> offers a further discussion on this issue.</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (<em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>)</h3>

<h1>一</h1>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/eYHJt.png" alt="甲骨文字典：一"></p>
  
  <p>【解字】卜辭由一至四，字形作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/dYVw5.png" alt="一">、<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/EWCGx.png" alt="二">、<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/MhuTD.png" alt="三">、<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ZAmxY.png" alt="亖">，以積畫為數，當出於古之算籌。甲文金文均同。屬於指事字。從五至九，則利用假借字，其形作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/JBhFD.png" alt="五1">（或<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ZKE08.png" alt="五2">）、<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Ic5ZK.png" alt="六1">（或<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/39NyR.png" alt="六2">）、<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ugZxR.png" alt="七">、<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/0Zun5.png" alt="八">、<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/cjGOA.png" alt="九">，至十則為豎形。</p>
  
  <p><strong>[Character Forming]</strong> The glyphs of one to four in oracle inscriptions are respectively <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/dYVw5.png" alt="一">, <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/EWCGx.png" alt="二">, <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/MhuTD.png" alt="三">, and <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ZAmxY.png" alt="亖">. The method of counting strokes is used for representing the number. <strong><em>It should originate from the ancient <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting_rods" rel="noreferrer">counting rods</a>.</em></strong> Their glyphs in bronze scripts are the same to those in oracle scripts. And they belong to the self-explanatory characters. From five to nine, oracle script uses the loan characters: <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/JBhFD.png" alt="五1"> (or <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ZKE08.png" alt="五2">), <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Ic5ZK.png" alt="六1"> (or <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/39NyR.png" alt="六2">), <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ugZxR.png" alt="七">, <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/0Zun5.png" alt="八">, <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/cjGOA.png" alt="九">, and <em>ten</em> is a vertical shape.</p>
  
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/2jPZ4.jpg" alt="象牙算籌"><br><em>Ivory Counting Rods in Western Han Dynasty (206 B.C. -- A.D. 8). Photographed by maverwolf in Shaanxi History Museum.</em></p>
</blockquote>

<h1>二</h1>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/WhUm5.png" alt="甲骨文字典：二"></p>
  
  <p><strong>[Character Forming]</strong> The glyphs of one to four in oracle inscriptions are respectively <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/dYVw5.png" alt="一">, <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/EWCGx.png" alt="二">, <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/MhuTD.png" alt="三">, and <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ZAmxY.png" alt="亖">. The method of counting strokes is used for representing the number. It should originate from the ancient <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting_rods" rel="noreferrer">counting rods</a>. <strong><em>Note that, the two strokes of <code>二</code> in oracle script should be of equal length. It is different from <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/gdTUt.png" alt="上"> (上) and <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Gk56Z.png" alt="下"> (下).</em></strong></p>
</blockquote>

<h1>三</h1>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/wMbq1.png" alt="甲骨文字典：三"></p>
  
  <p><strong>[Character Forming]</strong> See explanation of <code>一</code> above.</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Rubbings</h3>

<p>No. 032013: 貞(divine to predict) ?? 來(come)，一(one) 羌(western shepherd) 一(one) 牛(ox)。</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Qvw3B.png" alt="一(32013，一羌一牛)"></p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 034575: <a href="http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BA%9A%E5%8D%88" rel="noreferrer">庚午(year of 庚午)</a> 貞(divine to predict) 餗(food in a cooking vessel)，餗 其(, a basket made by bamboo splits; it; its) 二(two) 牛(ox)。</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/2O76C.png" alt="二（34575，庚午貞餗 餗其二牛）"></p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 032110: 其 一(one) 羌(western shepherd) 三(three) 牛(oxen)</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/kS5hy.png" alt="三（32110，其一羌三牛）"></p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Criticism on <a href="http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3598" rel="noreferrer">"Explanation of 一/二/三 in 象形字典 (Dictionary of Pictographs)"</a></h3>

<p>The explanations of 一/二/三 in <em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em> are some concepts from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching" rel="noreferrer">《周易》(<em>I Ching</em>)</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao_Te_Ching" rel="noreferrer">《道德經》(<em>Tao Te Ching</em>)</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huainanzi" rel="noreferrer">《淮南子》(<em>Huainanzi</em>)</a>. And such a statement for 一 is similar to that in 《說文解字》(<em>Shuowen</em>):</p>

<pre><code>惟初太始，道立于一，造分天地，化成萬物。
</code></pre>

<p>But let's consider these questions:</p>

<ol>
<li><p><em>I Ching</em> was one of the oldest Chinese classic text, written in Western Zhou Dynasty; <em>Tao Te Ching</em> was written in Warring States Period (newer than <em>I Ching</em>); And <em>Huainanzi</em> and <em>Shuowen</em> were even newer. So <strong><em>question 1: was it possible for ancient Chinese people to have such philosophical thinking, before the early period of Shang Dynasty when oracle scripts were invented?</em></strong></p></li>
<li><p>As number characters are very important in communication, they must appear at the early stage of oracle scripts. So <strong><em>question 2: at that early stage, would ancient Chinese people create 一/二/三 by such abstract thinking rather than by concrete images?</em></strong></p></li>
</ol>

<p>Unfortunately these two questions are both based on conjectures. So there isn't a definite "yes" or "no" answer. For question 1, I would say the earliest evidence we have found today is <em>I Ching</em>, and personally I don't believe philosophical thinking like "道立于一" (Tao stands on <em>one</em>) can date from an earlier period before the creation of the writing system. For question 2, it was illogical to invent the "basic characters" utilizing very abstract concepts, or, it would very probably make the communication become more difficult.</p>

<p>Besides, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting_rods" rel="noreferrer">算籌 (counting rods)</a> were used by ancient Chinese for more than two thousand years. It was possible to appear during or before the creation period of oracle scripts. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>So in conclusion, for the explanation of etymology of 一/二/三, opinions in <em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em> are more reliable: <strong>they should originate from the ancient counting rods.</strong></p>
</blockquote></li>
</ul>

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<h2>Etymology of 四</h2>

<ul>
<li><h3><a href="http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3602" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Explanation of 四 in 象形字典 (<em>Dictionary of Pictograph</em>)</a></h3>

<blockquote>
  <p>“四”是特殊指事字，甲骨文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/adOTb.gif" alt="象形字典四1.gif">的字形，表示其为“二”的两倍。造字本义：两倍于二的正整数。金文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/wUVFv.gif" alt="象形字典四2.gif">承续甲骨文字形。将金文的横笔竖写，就成了<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/XB958.gif" alt="象形字典四3.gif">；将<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/XB958.gif" alt="象形字典四3.gif">与<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif" alt="象形字典四4.gif">（二，表示4是2的倍数）合写，就成了<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7c8wA.gif" alt="象形字典四5.gif">。有的金文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/IRg1J.gif" alt="象形字典四6.gif">在<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7c8wA.gif" alt="象形字典四5.gif">的基础上再加“二”<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif" alt="象形字典四4.gif">，强调“四”<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/wUVFv.gif" alt="象形字典四2.gif">与“二” <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif" alt="象形字典四4.gif">的倍数关系。篆文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/kfIok.gif" alt="象形字典四7.gif">省去金文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/IRg1J.gif" alt="象形字典四6.gif">中的“二”<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif" alt="象形字典四4.gif">。</p>
  
  <p>四 is a special self-explanatory character. Its oracle glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/adOTb.gif" alt="象形字典四1.gif"> represents it is the twice of 二. The original idea of character construction: twice of 二. Its bronze glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/wUVFv.gif" alt="象形字典四2.gif"> is derived from the oracle glyph. If we write the strokes of the bronze script vertically, it becomes <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/XB958.gif" alt="象形字典四3.gif">; and then combine <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/XB958.gif" alt="象形字典四3.gif"> and <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif" alt="象形字典四4.gif"> (two, meaning 4 is twice of 2), it becomes <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7c8wA.gif" alt="象形字典四5.gif">. Some bronze script <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/IRg1J.gif" alt="象形字典四6.gif"> is written as adding a two <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif" alt="象形字典四4.gif"> to <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7c8wA.gif" alt="象形字典四5.gif">, emphasizing the multiple relationship between "four" <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/wUVFv.gif" alt="象形字典四2.gif"> and "two" <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif" alt="象形字典四4.gif">. The seal script <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/kfIok.gif" alt="象形字典四7.gif"> omits <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif" alt="象形字典四4.gif"> in the bronze script <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/IRg1J.gif" alt="象形字典四6.gif">.</p>
  
  <p><strong>My Annotation</strong>: note that there's <strong><em>NO</em></strong> <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/IRg1J.gif" alt="象形字典四6.gif"> or <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/kfIok.gif" alt="象形字典四7.gif"> in oracle scripts. <em>Dictionary of Pictograph</em> here discusses three types of scripts -- oracle, bronze, and seal. For more interesting glyph of 四, see <a href="http://www.internationalscientific.org/CharacterEtymology.aspx?submitButton1=Etymology&amp;characterInput=%E5%9B%9B" rel="nofollow noreferrer">the Chinese etymology site</a>.</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (<em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>)</h3>

<h1>四</h1>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/yMgVz.png" alt="甲骨文字典：四.png"></p>
  
  <p>【解字】甲骨文一、二、三、四皆以積畫成數，蓋取象於橫置之算籌。早期金文亦作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/QkaOU.png" alt="孟鼎四.png">（孟鼎）、<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/EtZjF.png" alt="墙盘四.png">（牆盤），與甲骨文同。至春秋戰國時期四字作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/KRoR9.png" alt="郘钟四.png">（郘鐘）、<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Yzskg.png" alt="徐王子钟四.png">（徐王子鐘）、<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ivB08.png" alt="大梁鼎四.png">（大梁鼎），為《說文》篆文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ozUKd.png" alt="篆文四.png">所本。此形乃借為數名。丁山謂其本為呬息字（《數名古誼》），馬敘倫則說為涕泗字（《中國文字之源流與研究方法之新傾向》）。</p>
  
  <p><br><strong>[Character Forming]</strong> The method of counting strokes is used for representing the number in oracle 一, 二, 三, and 四. Their glyphs originate from counting rods that are put horizontally. Early bronze scripts were also carved as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/QkaOU.png" alt="孟鼎四.png"> (on 孟鼎 Meng cooking vessel), <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/EtZjF.png" alt="墙盘四.png"> (on 牆盤 Wall plate) -- the same as oracle glyph. During the Warring States period / Spring and Autumn Period, bronze 四 became <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/KRoR9.png" alt="郘钟四.png"> (on 郘鐘 Shao bell), <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Yzskg.png" alt="徐王子钟四.png"> (on 徐王子鐘 Prince Xu bell), <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ivB08.png" alt="大梁鼎四.png"> (on 大梁鼎 Big Liang cooking vessel) -- they were the origin of the seal glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ozUKd.png" alt="篆文四.png"> in <em>Shuowen</em>. The bronze 四 was a loan character. In <em>數名古誼</em> (<em>The Ancient Meaning of the Chinese Number Names</em>) by 丁山 (Ding Shan), the origin of 四's bronze glyph is explained as "from 呬(breathing) in 呬息 (breathing)"; In <em>中國文字之源流與研究方法之新傾向</em> (<em>New Trend of Research Methods of the Etymology of Chinese Characters</em>) by 馬敘倫 (Ma Xulun), it is explained as "from 泗 (snot) in 涕泗 (tears and snot)".<br></p>
  
  <p><strong>My Annotation</strong>: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character_classification#Rebus_.28phonetic_loan.29_characters" rel="nofollow noreferrer">loan character / phonetic loan character / rebus character</a>, as the name suggesting, are characters that are "borrowed" to write another homophonous or near-homophonous morpheme. <strong>So for the question "where did bronze glyph 四 come from", 甲骨文字典 (<em>Dictionary of Oracle scripts</em>) adopts two viewpoints: it came from 呬 or 泗.</strong></p>
  
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/3aXfY.jpg" alt="孟鼎"><br><strong>孟鼎 Meng cooking vessel.</strong> Kept in National Museum of China.</p>
  
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/w6DXb.jpg" alt="牆盤"><br><strong>牆盤 Wall plate.</strong> Kept in Zhouyuan Institute of Administration of Cultural Relics, Fufeng Town, Baoji City, Shaanxi Province.</p>
  
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/QYSqm.jpg" alt="郘鐘"><br><strong>郘鐘 Lü bell.</strong> Kept in Shanghai Museum.</p>
  
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/absEQ.jpg" alt="徐王子鐘"><br><strong>徐王子鐘 Prince Xu bell.</strong></p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Rubbings</h3>

<p>Let's play a game: can you find <code>四</code> in these rubbings? <strong><em>Open the links in a new window/tab to view full-resolution image</em></strong></p>

<ol>
<li><p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/I49ij.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer">郘鐘拓片 (Rubbing of Lü bell).</a></p></li>
<li><p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/aMDAw.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer">徐王子鐘拓片 (Rubbing of Prince Xu bell).</a></p></li>
<li><p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/181Pv.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer">大梁鼎拓片 (Rubbing of Big Liang cooking vessel).</a></p></li>
</ol></li>
<li><h3>Criticism on <a href="http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3602" rel="nofollow noreferrer">"Explanation of 四 in 象形字典 (<em>Dictionary of Pictograph</em>)"</a></h3>

<p>The major points of statements for 四 in <em>Dictionary of Pictograph</em> are</p>

<ol>
<li><p><code>亖</code> meant twice of two.</p></li>
<li><p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7c8wA.gif" alt="象形字典四5.gif"> was the result of combining <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/XB958.gif" alt="象形字典四3.gif"> and <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif" alt="象形字典四4.gif">, emphasizing four was twice of two.</p></li>
<li><p>(Though <em>Dictionary of Pictograph</em> doesn't clearly state that, it implicitly suggests) the bronze four came from <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7c8wA.gif" alt="象形字典四5.gif">.</p></li>
</ol>

<p><strong><em>For statement 1</em></strong>, it is OK to explain it like that. Either <code>2x2=4</code> or <code>counting strokes</code> gives the correct answer. In <em>說文解字注</em> (<em>Annotations on Shuowen</em>) by 段玉裁 (Duan Yucai), it was</p>

<pre><code>此筭法之二二如四也。

This is a calculation "two and two make four".
</code></pre>

<p>"二二如四 (two and two make four)" would support the "multiple relationship" viewpoint, but not necessarily be the truth. Because there is already a "multiple relationship" rule (we will discuss it in the Etymology of 十) for carving a number: <code>&gt;= 5</code> times of ten, combine the multiplication factor below the character ten. For example,</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/RBsD4.png" alt="50.png"> = 50, <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/LHl5J.png" alt="60.png"> = 60</p>
</blockquote>

<p>It was not necessary to make a specific rule for constructing <code>亖</code>. So I would prefer the "counting strokes" explanation.</p>

<p><strong><em>For statement 2 &amp; 3</em></strong>, if there's any oracle scripts carving like <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7c8wA.gif" alt="象形字典四5.gif">, then no doubt it will be the correct answer. However, not only the oracle <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7c8wA.gif" alt="象形字典四5.gif"> has never been found, but also, classical annotations by ancient scholars didn't support such a statement. The entry 四 in <em>Shuowen</em> says</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/EO7VW.gif" alt="说文四.gif">象四分之形。凡四之屬皆从四。(<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Ay1Nl.gif" alt="古文四.gif">)，古文四。亖，<a href="http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%B1%80%E6%96%87" rel="nofollow noreferrer">籒文</a>四。</p>
  
  <p><strong>Like dividing a shape into four pieces</strong>. Characters that related to 四 have the radical 四.  is the ancient form of 四. 亖 is the <a href="http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%B1%80%E6%96%87" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Zhouwen</a> glyph of 四.</p>
</blockquote>

<p><em>Shuowen</em>'s viewpoint about the transformation from 亖 to 四 was then further confirmed in <em>Annotations on Shuowen</em> by Duan Yucai in Qing Dynasty:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><strong></strong></p>
  
  <blockquote>
    <p>古文四如此。小篆略改之。</p>
    
    <p>The ancient form was just like that. Seal script 四 modified it a little.</p>
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  <p><strong>亖</strong></p>
  
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    <p>此筭法之二二如四也。二字㒳畫均長、則亖字亦四畫均長。今人作篆多誤。<a href="http://ctext.org/wiki.pl?if=en&amp;chapter=755092" rel="nofollow noreferrer">覲禮“四享”</a>。鄭注曰。四當爲三。書作三四字或皆積畫。字相似。由此誤。聘禮注云“朝貢禮純四只”。鄭志。荅趙商問四當爲三。周禮內宰職注“天子巡守禮制幣丈八尺純四”。鄭志。荅趙商問亦云四當爲三。左傳“是四國者，專足畏也。”劉炫謂四當爲三。皆由古字積畫之故。按說文之例。先籒文。次古文。此恐轉寫誤倒。</p>
    
    <p>This is a calculation "two and two make four". Because the two strokes in 二 have equal length, the four strokes in 亖 should also have equal length. <em>覲禮</em> said "四享", and 鄭玄 commented on that: "The <em>four</em> should be <em>three</em>. Both writing three and four are all <em>counting strokes</em>, 三 and 亖 look alike, so it is misread." Similarly, for "朝貢禮純四只" in <em>聘禮注</em>, 鄭玄 said "<em>four</em> should be <em>three</em>"; "天子巡守禮制幣丈八尺純四" in <em>周禮內宰職注</em>, the same, "<em>four</em> should be <em>three</em>"; "是四國者專足畏也" in <em>左傳</em>, 劉炫 said "<em>four</em> should be <em>three</em>". Thus, these mistakes were all because of the similarity of 三 and 亖: following the convention of <em>Shuowen</em>, when copy-writing a book, one should write <a href="http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%B1%80%E6%96%87" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Zhouwen</a> first and then the ancient form, but the mistake would happen when messing up the order.</p>
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<p>In short, Duan Yucai's opinion suggests: "because 三 and 亖 can be easily mistaken, seal script 四 modified a bronze glyph  a little to avoid that." </p>

<p>So, now we can see, both <em>Annotations on Shuowen</em> and <em>Shuowen</em> didn't support the statement "<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7c8wA.gif" alt="象形字典四5.gif"> was the result of combining <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/XB958.gif" alt="象形字典四3.gif"> and <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif" alt="象形字典四4.gif">". What's worse, <strong>the statement of</strong> <strong><em>Dictionary of Pictograph</em></strong>  <strong>contradicts the bronze glyphs  and <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/KRoR9.png" alt="郘钟四.png"> (on Lü bell)</strong>!</p>

<p><strong><em>But how about the statements for "oracle 亖 => bronze 四" in Dictionary of Oracle Scripts? Are they more reliable?</em></strong> I would say both 丁山 (Ding Shan) and 馬敘倫 (Ma Xulun) had done much more research work on it, though whether they were correct or not has not been confirmed yet, they did provide brilliant opinions on how the transformation happened. And there's no contradiction between their statement and the bronze scripts we have found. Thus, the statement of <em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em> for 四 is more reliable.</p>

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  <p>Part of paper <em>數名古誼</em> (<em>The Ancient Meaning of the Chinese Number Names</em>) by 丁山 (Ding Shan)</p>
  
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    <p>四之見于卜辭金文者大抵與籀文同，惟郘鐘作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/9noxu.gif" alt="">，大梁鼎作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/iyckt.gif" alt="">；秦碣石頌始作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/r16Cv.gif" alt="">；許君據秦書說<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/a8ujn.gif" alt="">象四分形，則將謂<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/NSzeV.gif" alt="">象五分，<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/rP0Dw.gif" alt="">象六分乎？竊疑積畫爲<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/DGjCn.gif" alt="">者數名之本字；後之作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/znUCG.gif" alt="">者皆借呬爲之。秦權量刻辭凡云“不一”皆作“<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/TTCVs.gif" alt="">”(MY annotation: 不壹)其摹印“三川尉印”亦作“<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/uYlPm.gif" alt="">”(MY annotation: 叁川)，凡數名之形體簡易者皆代以繁縟之文；許君知一壹殊文，三叁異義，而不知<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ISt7o.gif" alt="">借爲<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/DGjCn.gif" alt="">者何也。蓋狃于所習而忘古義耳。<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/X8dAV.gif" alt="">从<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/kSmDw.gif" alt="">，象口形，或作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/9noxu.gif" alt=""><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/iyckt.gif" alt="">者，兼口舌气象之也；其中之八蓋猶<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/LLqqx.gif" alt="">下从八象气下引，<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/eLs1h.gif" alt="">上从八气象越于[亏]；郘鐘八下之一，蓋猶<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/FSmLa.gif" alt=""><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ftA7v.gif" alt="">之从一以像舌形，气蘊舌上而不能出諸口非呬而何；說文口部“<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/cjgb6.gif" alt="">，東夷謂息曰呬，从口，四聲。詩曰，犬夷呬矣”。“犬夷呬矣”今左傳引作“喙矣”，廣雅“喙，息也”，國語“余病喙矣”，韋注云“喙，短气貌”；以呬義證<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/r16Cv.gif" alt="">形，冥然若合符節，則四呬一字可以斷言。文字孳乳，有因借義習用已久，後人不復知其本義乃妄加偏傍以見之者，若<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/wlDEf.gif" alt="">加一<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/EX3eA.gif" alt="">中以指其爲株榦字，後人習用赤色意而增木其以爲株；叜本象<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/glJsv.gif" alt="">持火室內有所尋也，後人習用尊老意而增手其以爲：雖無損本義，終病其繁複無理。四本从口，而復从口作呬，繩之六書，不又病衍複乎？自造字原則言之，四卽呬之本字，尤信而有徵。蓋自周秦之際借气息之四爲數名之<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/DGjCn.gif" alt="">，別增口四以爲气息字，漢儒習而不察，以爲四卽數名本字；于是正俗別爲異字，通叚輥于一文，四之形義旣荒而“陰陽四分”之說以起；此古誼失傳後儒皆不得其解者二也。</p>
    
    <p><code>四</code>s seen in oracle inscriptions and bronze scripts were almost the same as <a href="http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%B1%80%E6%96%87" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Zhouwen</a>, only specially as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/9noxu.gif" alt=""> in Lü bell, as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/iyckt.gif" alt=""> in Big Liang cooking vessel. In <em>Ode to Jie Stone</em> in Qin Dynasty, it began to appear as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/r16Cv.gif" alt="">. Xu Shen (the author of <em>Shuowen</em>) said <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/a8ujn.gif" alt=""> was like "a shape divided into four" according to some reference in Qin Dynasty -- but following this opinion, would <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/NSzeV.gif" alt=""> be "divided into five", and <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/rP0Dw.gif" alt=""> be "divided into six"? Thus I think the "counting stokes" character <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/DGjCn.gif" alt=""> would be the original character of the numeral, and later <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/znUCG.gif" alt=""> were all borrowed from <code>呬</code>. All <code>不一</code>s on the inscriptions on the <em>Standard Prototype of Weight of Qin Dynasty</em> were all carved as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/TTCVs.gif" alt=""> (MY annotation: 不壹), and its imperial seal script <code>三川尉印</code> was also carved as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/uYlPm.gif" alt=""> (MY annotation: 叁川) -- all numerals originally written in a simple shape were replaced by complex characters. Mr. Xu knew 一 and 壹 were different characters, 三 and 叁 had different meanings, but he didn't know why <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ISt7o.gif" alt=""> was borrowed as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/DGjCn.gif" alt="">. That would be because he was blocked by what he had learnt and forgot its real ancient meaning. <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/X8dAV.gif" alt="">'s radical was <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/kSmDw.gif" alt="">, like a mouth, some others written as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/9noxu.gif" alt=""> or <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/iyckt.gif" alt=""> included the tongue and the breath besides the mouth. The <code>八</code> shape was just like the bottom of <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/LLqqx.gif" alt=""> (<a href="http://www.zdic.net/z/16/sw/53EA.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer">只</a>), which meant "leading breath / air downwards"; or like the top of <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/eLs1h.gif" alt="">, which meant "breath / air went upwards". In Lü bell's <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/9noxu.gif" alt="">, the <code>一</code> below <code>八</code> was just like <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/FSmLa.gif" alt="">'s and <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ftA7v.gif" alt="">'s <code>一</code> representing the tongue: the breath on the tongue that couldn't go out was exactly what 呬 had described. The 口 radical chapter in <em>Shuowen</em> said "<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/cjgb6.gif" alt="">, the eastern foreigners call breath (息) 呬. Radical 口. Pronounce like 四. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_of_Poetry" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><em>Classic of Poetry</em></a> said <code>犬夷呬矣</code>." That "<a href="http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%8A%AC%E6%88%8E" rel="nofollow noreferrer">犬夷</a>呬矣" referenced in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuo_Zhuan" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><em>Zuo Zhuan</em></a> was "喙矣"; and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangya" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Guangya</a> explained it as "喙, is 息(breath)." <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guoyu_(book)" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><em>Guoyu</em></a> said <code>余病喙矣</code> (I have difficulty in breathing.) <em>Annotations on Guoyu</em> by <a href="http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%9F%8B%E6%98%AD" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Wei Zhao</a> explained it as "喙, the appearance of breathing difficulty". Using the meaning of 呬 to explain <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/r16Cv.gif" alt="">, it coincided quite well, so we could assert that 四 and 呬 are actually one character. With the development of the writing system, some characters had been borrowed to indicate some meaning for a long time, so it was easy for later generations to forget the original meaning of a character and then to add radicals to it unreasonably. For example, 一 was added to <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/EX3eA.gif" alt=""> to mean the trunk of a tree (<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/wlDEf.gif" alt="">), later the character 朱 was usually used to mean "red", so people added the radical 木, making "株" to denote its original meaning; 叜 (search) originally illustrated searching things in a room (宀) with a torch (火) held by a hand (又), and later the character was used to mean "old man", so people added the radical 扌, making "" to denote its original meaning. Though this would not distroy the original meaning, I was dissatisfied with its unreasonable complexity. 四 had already had the radical 口, but redundantly being added 口 to form 呬, even if it met the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character_classification" rel="nofollow noreferrer">six writings</a>, wouldn't it be too complex? According to the rules of making characters, it is well-documented to assert 四 is the original character of 呬. During Zhou Dynasty and Qin Dynasty, 四 was borrowed to be the numeral <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/DGjCn.gif" alt="">, and added 口 making 呬 to denote the original "breath" character. Students in Han Dynasty learnt it but hadn't noticed that, and then they considered it was the original character of four. After that, variants became more and more, the original meaning of 四 was forgotten and meanwhile the opinion "Yin-Yang divided into four" was developing.</p>
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  <p>Part of paper <em>中國文字之源流與研究方法之新傾向</em> (<em>New Trend of Research Methods of the Etymology of Chinese Characters</em>) by 馬敘倫 (Ma Xulun)</p>
  
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    <p>說文裏四字是篆文，古文寫作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Lii3J.gif" alt="">，籀文寫作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/QGNRk.gif" alt="">，其實四<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/QGNRk.gif" alt="">是兩個不同意思的字。四字曹籀以爲是泗的初文，象鼻子裏有涕。其實四字的確從鼻，鼻字的初文是自和白。（不是黑白的白。）說文疐字下說：“叀者，如叀牛之鼻。”（今本牛誤做馬。）王筠說：“叀中之<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/a4hue.gif" alt="">，乃牛鼻也。”我看了郘鐘裏的<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/nHSmJ.gif" alt="">字，大梁鼎裏的<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/hNpr5.gif" alt="">字，相信這話不錯。<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/nHSmJ.gif" alt="">字從白，<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/hNpr5.gif" alt="">字從自，古文經傳裏寫作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Lii3J.gif" alt="">，是從<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/AJQL0.gif" alt="">，<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/AJQL0.gif" alt="">也是鼻字，甲文有的。八是四所從得聲的，所以八四兩個字收音都在脂類。至於<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/QGNRk.gif" alt="">字卻是數目的四字。羅振玉對於古文籀文還沒有弄得明白，也不曉得四<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/QGNRk.gif" alt="">兩個不同意思的字，所以他以為<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Lii3J.gif" alt="">是“晚周文字，錢先生所謂古文之別字。”（這是錢大昕的話，可是前人已經糾正過他的了。）</p>
    
    <p>四 in <em>Shuowen</em> is written in the seal script, its ancient form is <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Lii3J.gif" alt="">, and Zhouwen is <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/QGNRk.gif" alt="">. In fact, 四 and <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/QGNRk.gif" alt=""> are two characters with different meanings. Cao Zhou considered 四 was the origin of 泗, which looked like having snot in the nose. Actually, 四's meaning comes from nose (鼻), the origin of 鼻 is 自 or 白. (Here 白 doesn't mean <em>white</em>). The entry of 疐 in <em>Shuowen</em> says: "叀 is like the nose ring on an ox." (New versions of <em>Shuowen</em> mistakes 牛(ox) for 馬(horse).) Wang Jun said: "The <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/a4hue.gif" alt=""> part in the character 叀 is just the ox nose." When I saw Lü Bell's <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/nHSmJ.gif" alt="">, and Big Liang cooking vessel's <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/hNpr5.gif" alt="">, I believed it was true. <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/nHSmJ.gif" alt=""> comes from 白, <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/hNpr5.gif" alt=""> comes from 自. In canons written with ancient form characters, it is written as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Lii3J.gif" alt="">, which comes from <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/AJQL0.gif" alt=""> -- <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/AJQL0.gif" alt=""> also means nose, which can be found in oracle scripts. 八 is where 四 comes from, so when 八 and 四 are indexed by a dictionary, both are kept in the 脂 category (MY annotation: modern dictionaries don't adopt that method, if you are interested in how it was carried out in ancient times, you can read older dictionaries like <em>廣韻 Guangyun</em>). As for <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/QGNRk.gif" alt=""> that meant numeral four, Luo Zhenyu neither understood the difference between "the ancient form" and "Zhouwen", nor knew 四 and <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/QGNRk.gif" alt=""> were two different characters. So he mistook <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Lii3J.gif" alt=""> for "character in late Zhou Dynasty, which Mr. Qian considered a wrongly written character of an ancient form." (This was what Qian Daxin said, but there had been somebody correcting him before.)</p>
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<h2>Etymology of 五</h2>

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<li><h3><a href="http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3603" rel="noreferrer">Explanation of 五 in 象形字典 (<em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>)</a></h3>

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  <p>“五”也是特殊指事字，“五”的甲骨文字形<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/f7G4L.gif" alt="象形字典五1.gif">用一个叉号寓意天、地万物的交汇，以表示大于“四”的正整数。有的甲骨文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/51Mt5.gif" alt="象形字典五2.gif">在字形<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/f7G4L.gif" alt="象形字典五1.gif">（万物交汇）基础上加<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif" alt="象形字典五3.gif">（天地之间），造字本义：金、木、水、火、土等宇宙的构成要素，代表天地间万物构成元素的极限数，大于四，小于六。在造字时期的远古时代，一，二，三，四，五，六，七，八，九，十，都曾是极限数。</p>
  
  <p>五 is also a special self-explanatory character. Its oracle glyph uses a cross <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/f7G4L.gif" alt="象形字典五1.gif"> to imply "meeting of everything between the sky and the earth", indicating a number larger than four. Some oracle <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/51Mt5.gif" alt="象形字典五2.gif"> adds <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif" alt="象形字典五3.gif"> (between the sky and the earth) to the basic <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/f7G4L.gif" alt="象形字典五1.gif"> (meeting of everything). The original idea of character construction: ancient Chinese people thought 金 (metal), 木 (wood), 水 (water), 火 (fire), and 土 (earth) were the elements of the universe, so the number of the elements was used to imply an extreme, which was larger than four and less than six. In the period of the construction of oracle scripts, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, and ten, all had been once used as an "extreme" number.</p>
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<li><h3>Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (<em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>)</h3>

<h1>五</h1>

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  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/mG51y.gif" alt="甲骨文字典：五.gif"></p>
  
  <p>【解字】甲骨文子午之午作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/uT6II.gif" alt="甲骨文字典五1.gif">，本以束絲之交午形，會意為啎，借為地支之午。束絲表示交午之全形，具體之交午在束絲中部之二斜畫相交作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/m8CaW.gif" alt="甲骨文字典五2.gif">形，故甲骨文借用為數詞之五，或啎逆之啎。又為明確表示交午之意，更于束絲之兩環形中部截除上下兩段，只保留中段，即由<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ZNcST.gif" alt="甲骨文字典五3.gif">形而為<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/9tpzx.gif" alt="甲骨文字典五4.gif">形，或更於之交貫部位加指事符號<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/XQy1N.gif" alt="甲骨文字典五5.gif">而作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/izoGC.gif" alt="甲骨文字典五6.gif">，此二字形於卜辭中專作數詞之用。</p>
  
  <p>【釋義】</p>
  
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  <li><p>啎，相冓（遘）也，祭名。</p></li>
  <li><p>數詞。</p></li>
  </ol>
  
  <p><br> <strong>[Character Forming]</strong> In oracle scripts, 午 in 子午 (meridian) was written as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/uT6II.gif" alt="甲骨文字典五1.gif">. Its original meaning was "the shape of crossing two bunches of silk threads". And it was an ideogram for 啎 (meet), then borrowed by 午 in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthly_Branches" rel="noreferrer">earthly branches</a>. "Crossing two bunches of silk threads" showed the whole image, but the actual "crossing / meeting" was located in the middle by two slant strokes as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/m8CaW.gif" alt="甲骨文字典五2.gif"> shape. Thus in oracle scripts, it was used as a phonetic loan character for "the numeral 五" or "啎 (meet)". To clearly indicate the "crossing / meeting" meaning, the head and the bottom were then cut off, i.e. the shape changed from <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ZNcST.gif" alt="甲骨文字典五3.gif"> to <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/9tpzx.gif" alt="甲骨文字典五4.gif">; and an indicating symbol <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/XQy1N.gif" alt="甲骨文字典五5.gif"> could be even also added to the exact point where "crossing" happened, so that the glyph became <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/izoGC.gif" alt="甲骨文字典五6.gif">. These two glyphs were specifically used as the numeral in oracle inscriptions.</p>
  
  <p><strong>[Meaning]</strong></p>
  
  <ol>
  <li><p>啎, meet, name for the sacrifice.</p></li>
  <li><p>Numeral five.</p></li>
  </ol>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Rubbings</h3>

<p>No. 029733. <code>今旬五雨</code> (During this period of ten days, it has rained five times).</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/wHI1i.gif" alt="五：029733.gif"></p>
</blockquote>

<p>From <em>殷契粹编</em> written by Guo Moruo, No. 1149: <code>癸巳卜王其令五族戍朕伐[??]</code>.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/IU7JD.gif" alt="五：郭沫若殷契粹编1149.gif"></p>
</blockquote>

<p>From <em>殷契佚存</em> written by Shang Chengzuo, No. 224: <code>五鹿隻四鹿隻</code>.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/myY1z.gif" alt="五：商承祚殷契佚存.gif"></p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Criticism on "<a href="http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3603" rel="noreferrer">Explanation of 五 in 象形字典 (<em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>)</a>"</h3>

<p>There is one point that the two dictionaries agree, "the glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/9tpzx.gif" alt="甲骨文字典五4.gif"> has a meaning of <em>crossing / meeting</em>", however, they explain it in very different ways.</p>

<p>The main opinion of <em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>, though being not explicitly stated, is</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Crossing between the sky and the earth => Element of everything => <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_Xing" rel="noreferrer">五行 (Wu Xing)</a> => <strong>Five</strong>.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>However, the earliest record of Wu Xing found today can only date from the end of Western Zhou Dynasty (See <a href="http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BA%94%E8%A1%8C" rel="noreferrer">Chinese wikipedia</a>). Similar to the entry of 一/二/三, it was not so possible for ancient Chinese people to develop these philosophy ideas during the period of creating the writing system.</p>

<p><em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em> says it is a phonetic loan character. That is more reliable, because there are some cases that <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/m8CaW.gif" alt="甲骨文字典五2.gif"> doesn't mean <strong><em>five</em></strong> but just the name of the sacrifice (see 【释义】1. / <strong>[Meaning]1.</strong>).</p></li>
</ul>

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+1 since it doesn't have 5 upvotes yet. No vote for the 四 answer because it already has 4 upvotes. Just kidding:)
NS.X.
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@NS.X. Thanks. But it is really difficult for `千` to have one thousand +1s, so never mind XD
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<h2>Etymology of 六</h2>

<ul>
<li><h3><a href="http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3604" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Explanation of 六 in 象形字典 (<em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>)</a></h3>

<blockquote>
  <p>“六”是象形字，甲骨文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/79oVV.gif" alt="象形字典六1.gif">像房屋的外形框架<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Kb7nb.gif" alt="象形字典六2.gif">，有立墙、斜顶，表示房屋的空间维度：四壁加屋顶地板两面。有的甲骨文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/eZqo7.gif" alt="象形字典六3.gif">再突出了屋脊，像屋顶的烟囱。造字本义：庐，由四面墙，以及屋顶、地面两面构成的房屋。金文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/8GyK9.gif" alt="象形字典六4.gif">承续甲骨文字形。有的金文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/FgKkk.gif" alt="象形字典六5.gif">变形了墙壁形象。篆文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/mQEXH.gif" alt="象形字典六6.gif">则将金文的屋顶形象<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/UDpSb.gif" alt="象形字典六7.gif">变形成费解的<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/hOsnV.gif" alt="象形字典六8.gif"> 。隶书<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/mXDxP.gif" alt="象形字典六9.gif">继续变形屋顶形象。“六”作为单纯数字之后，后人再加“盧”（器皿中装着兽肉）另造“廬”代替，表示生活栖息的空间。  </p>
  
  <p><br>六 was a pictographic character. Its oracle glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/79oVV.gif" alt="象形字典六1.gif"> looked like the frame of a cottage <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Kb7nb.gif" alt="象形字典六2.gif">. There were walls and a slant roof, indicating the spacial dimension of the cottage: four walls plus one roof and one floor. Some oracle glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/eZqo7.gif" alt="象形字典六3.gif"> stuck a stroke in the ridge, and it looked like a chimney. The original idea of character construction: 庐 (cottage) made by four walls, a roof and a floor. Bronze glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/8GyK9.gif" alt="象形字典六4.gif"> was derived from the oracle glyph. Some bronze glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/FgKkk.gif" alt="象形字典六5.gif"> deformed the shape of the walls. Seal glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/mQEXH.gif" alt="象形字典六6.gif"> further deformed the roof <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/UDpSb.gif" alt="象形字典六7.gif"> in bronze glyphs to an obscure shape <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/hOsnV.gif" alt="象形字典六8.gif">. Clerical scripts <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/mXDxP.gif" alt="象形字典六9.gif"> continued the deformation of the roof. After 六 being used only as a numeral, ancient Chinese people added 盧 (container with meat) and made a new character 廬 to represent the space for living.</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (<em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>)</h3>

<h1>六</h1>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/lgBdU.gif" alt="甲骨文字典：六.gif"></p>
  
  <p>【解字】<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六1.gif">象兩壁架有一極兩宇之棚舍正視形，此為田野中臨時寄居之處，其結構簡易，暴露於野，即古之所謂廬。《說文-广部》：“廬，寄也。秋冬去，春夏居。”廬六古音近，故<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六1.gif">得借為數詞六。而作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/9Hk0v.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六2.gif"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/3mabV.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六3.gif">形者乃象圓形或方形圍牆上架以屋頂，東西南北四方全為屋頂所覆，與<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六1.gif">之為兩柱屋，即左右兩壁上架棚，前後無牆壁遮阻之形有別。<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/9Hk0v.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六2.gif"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/3mabV.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六3.gif">實為宀之初文。《說文》：“宀，交覆深屋也。”<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/9Hk0v.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六2.gif"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/3mabV.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六3.gif">與<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六1.gif">形近，故卜辭皆借為數目字六。</p>
  
  <p><br> <strong>[Character Forming]</strong> <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六1.gif"> looked like the front view of a cottage building with two roof sides and one roof beam on two walls. It was a temporary place for living on the field, had a simple structure, and kept open on the field, i.e. 廬 (cottage / hut). Radical 广 chapter in <em>Shuowen</em> said: "廬, temporary place for living, not for autumn and winter but only for spring and summer." The ancient pronunciations of 廬(cottage) and 六(six) were similar, so <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六1.gif"> was borrowed as the numeral six. Some glyphs <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/9Hk0v.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六2.gif"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/3mabV.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六3.gif"> were the shape of building a roof on a round or a square fence -- the roof covered all directions -- it was different from <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六1.gif">, which had only two uprights (two walls) and a roof but lacked walls in the front and the back side. <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/9Hk0v.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六2.gif"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/3mabV.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六3.gif"> were actually the original glyph of 宀. <em>Shuowen</em> said "宀, house with all directions covered." Because <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/9Hk0v.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六2.gif"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/3mabV.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六3.gif"> were similar to <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六1.gif">, oracle inscriptions borrowed all of them as the numeral six. </p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Rubbings</h3>

<p>No. 032320. <a href="http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%8A%E7%94%B2%E5%BE%AE" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><code>上甲</code></a><code>燎六羊...其有...丑</code> (Shangjia had roasted six goats ... [and some unrelated characters 其有...丑]).</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/l1d2N.gif" alt="六：032320.gif"></p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 001374. <a href="http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%99%B8%E9%85%89" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><code>癸酉</code></a><code>卜, 侑于(之)成, 六月</code> (Year of <a href="http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%99%B8%E9%85%89" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Guiyou</a>, divine to predict. Sacrifice in Cheng. Sixth Month.)</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/yiWZC.gif" alt="六：001374癸酉卜，侑于成，之，六月.gif"></p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Criticism on "<a href="http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3604" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Explanation of 六 in 象形字典 (<em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>)</a>"</h3>

<p>Both the dictionaries consider the oracle six was the image of 廬 (cottage / hut). The major distinction is "why it meant six".</p>

<ul>
<li><p><em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>: the hut had six directions, front, back, left, right, up (roof), and down (floor), so the image stood for six.</p></li>
<li><p><em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>: again, the oracle glyph of six is considered as a phonetic loan character. Though we might never know why the numeral six was pronounce in that way, but 六 (as the image of hut) sounded like the numeral six in the period of making characters, thus it was used to indicate the numeral six.</p></li>
</ul>

<p>The "phonetic loan character" opinion actually has some variants, e.g. Ding Shan said "古皆借入为六" (ancient Chinese borrowed <code>入</code> to indicate six) in <em>数名古谊</em>. This is quite reasonable, because an oracle glyph of <strong><a href="http://images.gg-art.com/dictionary/oracledict.php?page=578" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><code>入</code></a></strong> is <strong><code>∧</code></strong>, which is exactly the same to some oracle inscription <em>six</em> (and they also sounded similar). But personally I believe the 廬 (hut) opinion is more convincing, because in oracle bones found today, the number of appearances of <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六1.gif"> is greater than that of <strong><code>∧</code></strong>. Besides, <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif" alt="甲骨文字典六1.gif"> was very similar to the top of the oracle glyph <a href="http://images.gg-art.com/dictionary/oracledict.php?page=590" rel="nofollow noreferrer">高</a>. This would be a circumstantial evidence. Anyway, whichever "phonetic loan character" opinion is easy to be self-consistent.</p>

<p>How about the "six directions" opinion? Yes it was also possible to be true. But the most serious problem is, like rubbing No. 001374 above, the oracle glyph six could be like <strong><code>∧</code></strong>. Archaeologists have found that in the early period of Shang Dynasty, people lived in caves. The <strong><code>∧</code></strong> would just mean some coverings as the shape of the roof, there wasn't any "wall" like the modern concept. So, how could ancient Chinese people count directions to six?</p></li>
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<h2>Etymology of 百</h2>

<ul>
<li><h3><a href="http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3611" rel="noreferrer">Explanation of 百 in 象形字典 (<em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>)</a></h3>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/11bSK.gif" alt="[1]jia(1)jian(1).gif">像是在舌头<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/qmIGV.gif" alt="[1]jia(1)jian(2).gif">上再画一个舌尖<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/e0LK7.gif" alt="[1]jia(1)jian(3).gif">，表示不断鼓舌说话。百，甲骨文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/TT9Km.gif" alt="[1]jia(1).gif">在（不断鼓舌说话）上方加一横指事符号**<code>一</code>**，造字本义：说不完道不尽。有的甲骨文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/n3VIP.gif" alt="[1]jia(2).gif">将<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/11bSK.gif" alt="[1]jia(1)jian(1).gif">写成<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Q1pp3.gif" alt="[1]jia(2)jian(1).gif">，像舌头<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/qmIGV.gif" alt="[1]jia(1)jian(2).gif">伸在嘴巴<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/jGAPC.gif" alt="[1]jia(2)jian(2).gif">之外，表示张口鼓舌，力图说明。金文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Qs0Fa.gif" alt="[2]jin(1).gif">、<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/dv4au.gif" alt="[2]jin(2).gif">、篆文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/J578e.gif" alt="[4]zhuan(1).gif">承续甲骨文字形。隶书<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/MEQmK.gif" alt="[5]li(2).gif">有所变形。</p>
  
  <p><br><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/11bSK.gif" alt="[1]jia(1)jian(1).gif"> looks like drawing the tip <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/e0LK7.gif" alt="[1]jia(1)jian(3).gif"> besides the tongue, it means "endlessly talking with the tongue". The oracle glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/TT9Km.gif" alt="[1]jia(1).gif"> puts an indicative symbol <strong><code>一</code></strong> above it. The original idea of character construction: endlessly talking. Some oracle glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/n3VIP.gif" alt="[1]jia(2).gif"> writes <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/11bSK.gif" alt="[1]jia(1)jian(1).gif"> as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Q1pp3.gif" alt="[1]jia(2)jian(1).gif">, looking like the tongue <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/qmIGV.gif" alt="[1]jia(1)jian(2).gif"> is put out of the mouth <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/jGAPC.gif" alt="[1]jia(2)jian(2).gif">. It would mean "trying hard to illustrate something". Bronze glyphs <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Qs0Fa.gif" alt="[2]jin(1).gif">, <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/dv4au.gif" alt="[2]jin(2).gif">, and seal glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/J578e.gif" alt="[4]zhuan(1).gif"> inherit its oracle glyph. The clerical glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/MEQmK.gif" alt="[5]li(2).gif"> changes a little.</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (<em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>)</h3>

<h1>百</h1>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/GbhCG.gif" alt="甲骨文字典百.gif"> </p>
  
  <p>【解字】從一从<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/mgRWp.gif" alt="甲骨文字典百1.gif">（白），<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/mgRWp.gif" alt="甲骨文字典百1.gif">為古容器，復加指事符号**<code>∧</code>**，遂為表示數目之百。《說文》：「百，十十也，从一白。」</p>
  
  <p><strong>[Character Forming]</strong> Its radical is 一 or <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/mgRWp.gif" alt="甲骨文字典百1.gif"> (白). <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/mgRWp.gif" alt="甲骨文字典百1.gif"> is the ancient container, adding the indicative symbol <strong><code>∧</code></strong>, it becomes the numeral <em>hundred</em>. <em>Shuowen</em>: "百, ten times ten, radical 一 or 白."</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Rubbings</h3>

<p>No. 50: 百</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Jm5m0.gif" alt="No. 50.gif"></p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Criticism</h3>

<p>Both explanations can justify themselves. So both are possible to be true.</p></li>
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<h2>Etymology of 八</h2>

<ul>
<li><h3><a href="http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3606" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Explanation of 八 in 象形字典 (<em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>)</a></h3>

<blockquote>
  <p>“八”是特殊指事字，甲骨文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/3bwVl.gif" alt="[1]jia(1) (1).gif">用相背的两条弧线指事符号，表示物体被分离为两部分。造字本义：切分。金文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/k8k0V.gif" alt="[2]jin(1).gif">、篆文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/NqDQv.gif" alt="[4]zhuan(1).gif">承续甲骨文字形。楷书<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/WcaGn.gif" alt="[6]kai(1).gif">承续隶书字形，写成一撇一捺。当“八”的“切分”本义消失后，篆文再加“刀”另造“分”代替。<strike>古人认为“八”是极限数，曰：“七乱八糟”。在发明十进制之前，一，二，三，四，五，六，七，八，九，都曾是古人认识中的极限数字。</strike></p>
  
  <p><br>八 is a special self-explanatory character. The oracle script <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/3bwVl.gif" alt="[1]jia(1) (1).gif"> uses two detached arc as the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character#Simple_ideograms" rel="nofollow noreferrer">simple ideogram</a> symbol, representing an object is divided into two parts. The original idea of character construction: dividing. Bronze script <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/k8k0V.gif" alt="[2]jin(1).gif"> and seal script <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/NqDQv.gif" alt="[4]zhuan(1).gif"> inherit its oracle glyph. Regular script <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/WcaGn.gif" alt="[6]kai(1).gif"> inherits the clerical glyph, writing it as a left-falling stroke and a right-falling stroke. When the original meaning of "dividing" in 八 disappeared, the seal script made the character 分 (divide) by adding 刀 (knife) to it. <strike>Ancient Chinese people thought eight was an extreme number, so there was an idiom "七乱八糟". Before the invention of the decimal system, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, and nine, were all extreme numbers in the view of ancient Chinese people.</strike></p>
  
  <p><strong>My Annotation</strong>:</p>
  
  <ol>
  <li><p>The part being struck out is the "extreme number" explanation, which appears to be illogical and far-fetched. For details, see <strong><em>Explanation of 七 in 象形字典 (Dictionary of Pictographs)</em></strong> and <strong><em>My Annotation</em></strong> in the entry <a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5421/2816">Etymology of 七</a>.</p></li>
  <li><p>The motive of putting the idiom "七乱八糟" ("乱七八糟", more commonly) in the explanation is unclear. It hasn't offered any support to the "extreme number" claim. The etymology of this idiom was once guessed as: 七乱 originated from the "Rebellion of the Seven States" in Western Han Dynasty; 八糟 originated from the "Upheaval of the Eight Princes" during the Western Jin Dynasty. Although this etymology of the idiom is highly doubted by a famous historical scholar Jin Wenming in <a href="http://www.cqvip.com/qk/81202x/200607/22105894.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">his paper</a>, anyhow, the idiom is hardly related to "extreme numbers".</p></li>
  </ol>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (<em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>)</h3>

<h1>八</h1>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/RNvBY.gif" alt="甲骨文字典8.gif"></p>
  
  <p>【解字】《說文》：“八，別也，象分別相背之形。”甲骨文乃以二畫相背，分向張開，以表示分別之義。卜辭中借用為紀數之詞。</p>
  
  <p><strong>[Character Forming]</strong> As said in <em>Shouwen</em>, "八, <strong><em>being parted / leaving each other</em></strong>, is a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character#Pictograms" rel="nofollow noreferrer">pictograph</a> showing being parted in different directions." The oracle glyph used two parted strokes in different directions to mean being parted. Then oracle inscriptions borrowed it to mean the numeral eight.</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Rubbings</h3>

<p>No. 1014. <a href="http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%B7%B1_(%E5%A4%A9%E5%B9%B2)" rel="nofollow noreferrer">己</a>...貞(divine to predict)...伐(send armed forces to suppress)...用(can be carried out)...室(room)...八月(eighth month). (This is not a sentence, just part of an oracle bone.)</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ZHVWx.gif" alt="No.1014-己...貞...伐...用...室...八月.gif"></p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Criticism on "<a href="http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3606" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Explanation of 八 in 象形字典 (<em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>)</a>"</h3>

<p>Like the entry "Etymology of 七", both <em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em> and <em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em> agree on the original meaning of the oracle glyph of eight, but just explain it respectively as "an extreme number" and "a phonetic loan character". See the entry <a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5421/2816">"Etymology of 七"</a> for the details of criticism.</p></li>
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<h2>Etymology of 十, 廿(niàn), 卅(sà), 卌(xì)</h2>

<ul>
<li><h3>Explanation in 象形字典 (<em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>)</h3>

<h1><a href="http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3608" rel="noreferrer">十 (ten)</a></h1>

<blockquote>
  <p>“十”从金文开始成为指事字。“十”的甲骨文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ztDnG.gif" alt="[1]jia(1)(1).gif">是象形字，像一根用于纪事的垂悬的绳子。古人用结绳纪事、计数，一根绳子代表一个纪事主题，代表全数。造字本义：一根用来打结纪事的绳子，代表满数、全数。金文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/3XFxg.gif" alt="[2]jin(1).gif">承续甲骨文字形。有的金文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/qJamQ.gif" alt="[2]jin(2).gif">在绳上加圆点指事符号<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/mEHWw.gif" alt="[2]jin(2)jian(1).gif">，表示结绳纪事。有的金文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/KOHZp.gif" alt="[2]jin(3).gif">误将圆点<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/mEHWw.gif" alt="[2]jin(2)jian(1).gif">（绳结）写成短横<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/FEPNk.gif" alt="[2]jin(3)jian(1).gif">。篆文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/iPCF4.gif" alt="[4]zhuan(1).gif">承续金文字形<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/KOHZp.gif" alt="[2]jin(3).gif">。</p>
  
  <p>十 had become a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character#Simple_ideograms" rel="noreferrer">simple ideograph character</a> since he bronze script age. Its oracle glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ztDnG.gif" alt="[1]jia(1)(1).gif"> is a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character#Pictograms" rel="noreferrer">pictograph character</a>, and looks like a hanged rope for recording events. Ancient people tied knots on a rope to keep a record of events or numbers. One rope might stand for a subject, meaning "all". The original idea of character construction: one rope with knots for recording events, stands for the "whole number". The bronze glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/3XFxg.gif" alt="[2]jin(1).gif"> inherits the oracle glyph, and some of them <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/qJamQ.gif" alt="[2]jin(2).gif"> was added a round point <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/mEHWw.gif" alt="[2]jin(2)jian(1).gif"> as an indicative symbol to mean "tying knots to record"; while some <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/KOHZp.gif" alt="[2]jin(3).gif"> mistook the round point <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/mEHWw.gif" alt="[2]jin(2)jian(1).gif"> (knot) for a short bar <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/FEPNk.gif" alt="[2]jin(3)jian(1).gif">. Its seal glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/iPCF4.gif" alt="[4]zhuan(1).gif"> inherits its bronze glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/KOHZp.gif" alt="[2]jin(3).gif">.</p>
</blockquote>

<h1><a href="http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3609" rel="noreferrer">廿 (twenty)</a></h1>

<blockquote>
  <p>廿，甲骨文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/vwM97.gif" alt="11jia00.gif">像两根纪事的绳子，一根绳子<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/qJamQ.gif" alt="[2]jin(2).gif">代表数目“十”，两根绳子<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/qJamQ.gif" alt="[2]jin(2).gif">、<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/qJamQ.gif" alt="[2]jin(2).gif">代表两个“十”。造字本义：二十，十的双倍。金文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/MoMCj.gif" alt="[2]jin(1) (1).gif">将两根有绳结的绳子相连接。有的金文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/jJNJG.gif" alt="[2]jin(2) (1).gif">将绳结连成横线。篆文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/DIOeQ.gif" alt="[4]zhuan(1) (1).gif">承续金文字形<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/jJNJG.gif" alt="[2]jin(2) (1).gif">。</p>
  
  <p>廿's oracle glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/vwM97.gif" alt="11jia00.gif"> looks like two ropes, one of which stands for the numeral ten, so two ropes <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/qJamQ.gif" alt="[2]jin(2).gif"> and <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/qJamQ.gif" alt="[2]jin(2).gif"> make twenty. The original idea of character construction: twenty is double ten. The bronze glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/MoMCj.gif" alt="[2]jin(1) (1).gif"> shows two ropes with knots are tied together. Some bronze glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/jJNJG.gif" alt="[2]jin(2) (1).gif"> replaces the knot with a bar. The seal glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/DIOeQ.gif" alt="[4]zhuan(1) (1).gif"> inherits the bronze glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/jJNJG.gif" alt="[2]jin(2) (1).gif">.</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (<em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>)</h3>

<h1>十 (ten)</h1>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/MAcqS.gif" alt="甲骨文字典十.gif"></p>
  
  <p>【解字】丨為古代之算籌，竪置一籌表示數量十，以與橫置之算籌一區別，卜辭中十之五倍以上數字皆置倍數於十之下合書，如五十作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/RBsD4.png" alt="五十">，六十作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/LHl5J.png" alt="六十">等。</p>
  
  <p><strong>[Character Forming]</strong> 丨 is an ancient counting rod. Placing it vertically means the numeral ten, so it can be different from the numeral one that is placed horizontally. In oracle inscriptions, numbers that are larger than fifty are written as "joining the multiple under ten 丨". For example, fifty is written as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/RBsD4.png" alt="五十">, sixty is written as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/LHl5J.png" alt="六十">.</p>
</blockquote>

<h1>廿 (twenty)</h1>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/qibSg.gif" alt="甲骨文字典廿.gif"></p>
  
  <p>【解字】并連兩枚竪直之算籌以表示二十之數。《說文》：「廿，二十并也。」周金文作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/J3ldl.gif" alt="廿1.gif">（宰椃角），<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/0DmwP.gif" alt="廿2.gif">（戊辰簋），與甲骨文同，後漸譌<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/AIWfN.gif" alt="廿3.gif">（伊簋），<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/2DUxd.gif" alt="廿4.gif">（曾姬無卹壺），<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/bHr9y.gif" alt="廿5.gif">即為《說文》篆文所本。</p>
  
  <p><strong>[Character Forming]</strong> Placing two vertical counting rods side by side means the numeral twenty. <em>Shuowen</em> says: "廿 is two 十s placing abreast." In Zhou Dynasty, the bronze scripts were written as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/J3ldl.gif" alt="廿1.gif"> (on Zaihao horn), <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/0DmwP.gif" alt="廿2.gif"> (on Wuchen vessel), the same as oracle scripts. After that, mistakenly, it was gradually written as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/AIWfN.gif" alt="廿3.gif"> (on Yi vessel), <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/2DUxd.gif" alt="廿4.gif"> on (Princess Zeng No Worries kettle). So the glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/bHr9y.gif" alt="廿5.gif"> is the origin of the seal script of <em>Shuowen</em>.</p>
</blockquote>

<h1>卅 (thirty)</h1>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/zdEUE.gif" alt="甲骨文字典卅.gif"></p>
  
  <p>【解字】并連三枚竪直之算籌以表示三十之數。《說文》：「<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/4h5X2.gif" alt="卅1.gif">，三十并也。」金文作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/SOuQI.gif" alt="卅2.gif">（昌鼎），與甲骨文同。</p>
  
  <p><strong>[Character Forming]</strong> Placing three vertical counting rods side by side means the numeral thirty. <em>Shuowen</em> says: "<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/4h5X2.gif" alt="卅1.gif"> is three 十s placing abreast." The bronze script is written as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/SOuQI.gif" alt="卅2.gif"> (on Chang cooking vessel), the same as the oracle scripts.</p>
</blockquote>

<h1>卌 (forty)</h1>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/FISQ9.gif" alt="甲骨文字典卌.gif"></p>
  
  <p>【解字】并連四枚竪直之算籌以表示四十之數，《說文》所無，見於《廣韻》。漢孔龢碑有之，作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/nlTv1.gif" alt="卌1.gif">。</p>
  
  <p><strong>[Character Forming]</strong> Placing four vertical counting rods side by side means the numeral forty. Not found in <em>Shuowen</em> but in <em>Guangyun</em>. In Han Dynasty, there was one on Konghe Stone Tablet, written as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/nlTv1.gif" alt="卌1.gif">.</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Rubbings</h3>

<p>No. 10103: 年于[目口]...受年 <strong>十</strong> 一月...不其受年...</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/cdQqw.gif" alt=""></p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 17489: 婦井示 <strong>二十(廿)</strong></p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/CGyOB.gif" alt=""></p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 1513: 甲申卜乙酉侑祖乙三[宀羊][冊口] <strong>三十(卅)</strong> 牛</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/m9zFB.gif" alt=""></p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 33371: 丙戌卜丁亥王陷[凶十]允[凶十]三百又 <strong>四十</strong> 八</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/GAhCV.gif" alt=""></p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 11055: <strong>五十</strong> 牛</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/e7Cf1.gif" alt=""></p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 11054: <strong>六十</strong> 牛</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/AiUhE.gif" alt=""></p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 20723: 鹿 <strong>七十</strong> 一，豕四十一，麑百</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/bctwz.gif" alt=""></p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 27512: 妣戊于翌日 <strong>七十</strong> 牛</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Gzx1b.gif" alt=""></p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 37471: 貞王田于雞往來亡災，弘吉茲御獲狐 <strong>八十</strong> 又六</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/C6XMp.gif" alt=""></p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 10407: ... <strong>九十</strong> 又九 ...</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/cxkJF.gif" alt=""></p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Criticism</h3>

<p>Besides the two explanations in these two dictionaries, there are also some other conjectures. For example, Guo Moruo said (in <em>古文字诂林</em> volume 2):</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>中国以一掌为十，故金文十字（像掌），…一竖而鼓其腹，亦象形也。 A palm in China means ten, so the bronze glyph (like a palm) ... one vertical stroke fat in abdomen, just a pictograph.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Personally I think they all make sense, that is to say, they don't contradict current archaeological findings. So before getting further evidence, they are all acceptable.</p></li>
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<h2>Etymology of 七</h2>

<ul>
<li><h3><a href="http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3605" rel="noreferrer">Explanation of 七 in 象形字典 (<em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>)</a></h3>

<blockquote>
  <p>“七”是特殊指事字，甲骨文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/U2APu.gif" alt="[1]jia(1).gif">写作“十”。一横代表全部、一切；一横加一竖，表示对全体进行切分。金文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/3TpeH.gif" alt="[2]jin(1).gif">承续甲骨文字形。有的金文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/jRsx8.gif" alt="[2]jin(2).gif">为了区别于“十”，将竖笔转折。造字本义：古人认为需要切分的极限数，即比六更大的数，六与八之间的正整数。篆文字形<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/CIxke.gif" alt="[4]zhuan(1).gif">基本承续晚期金文字形。在发明十进制之前，一，二，三，四，五，六，七，八，九，都曾是古人认识中的极限数字：一，混沌宇宙，代表全部；二，天地或乾坤或阴阳，代表一切；三，天、地、人，也代表一切；四，超越“三”的数，“二”的两倍，也是极数；五，天地交汇，也代表一切，中国珠算采用五进制；六，房屋的四壁及顶和底，也代表宇宙空间的一切；七，需要切分的极限数，也代表一切；八，分，与“七”相同，表示需要细分的极限数；九，用手极力地抓，表示数多至极，中国珠算亦采用九进制。当“七”的“切分”本义消失后，篆文再加“刀”另造“切”代替。</p>
  
  <p><br>七 is a special self-explanatory character. Its oracle script is written as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/U2APu.gif" alt="[1]jia(1).gif">, just like the modern Chinese glyph of the numeral <strong>ten</strong> (十). One horizontal stroke stands for whole/all, and plus one vertical stroke, the combination means "dividing the whole". Bronze script <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/3TpeH.gif" alt="[2]jin(1).gif"> inherits its oracle glyph, and some of them are written as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/jRsx8.gif" alt="[2]jin(2).gif"> for clearly distinguishing it from the numeral ten (十) by bending the vertical stroke. The original idea of character construction: ancient Chinese people thought there should be a divided "extreme number" between six and eight. Seal glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/CIxke.gif" alt="[4]zhuan(1).gif"> basically inherited its late bronze glyph. Before the decimal system being invented, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, and nine, had been once considered as "extreme numbers" in ancient Chinese people's view: <strong>one</strong>, "chaos universe", stood for the whole; <strong>two</strong>, "the heaven and the earth", or "<em>yin</em> and <em>yang</em>", stood for everything; <strong>three</strong>, "the heaven, the earth, and the human", also stood for everything; <strong>four</strong>, larger than three, double two, thus was also an "extreme number"; <strong>five</strong>, "intersection of the heaven and the earth", also meant everything (the Chinese abacus adopted the quinary system); <strong>six</strong>, "four walls and one roof and one floor of a house", stood for everything in the universe; <strong>seven</strong>, "the extreme number that needed segmentation", again, stood for everything; <strong>eight</strong>, "dividing", the same as seven, stood for the extreme number that needed subdivision; <strong>nine</strong>, "trying hard to grab things by hand", suggested the number is very large (the Chinese abacus also adopted the novenary system). When the original meaning of "dividing" in 七 disappeared, the seal script made the character 切 (cut, divide) by adding 刀 (knife) to it.</p>
  
  <p><strong>My Annotation</strong>: </p>
  
  <ol>
  <li><p>The explanation of the "extreme number" here appears to be ill-logical and far-fetched. On the one hand, I haven't seen any archaeological findings or ancient literature supporting that claim. On the other hand, as basic numerals, 1~9 were very probably invented at the same time, how could ancient Chinese people consider they are all "extreme numbers"?</p></li>
  <li><p>The claim "the Chinese abacus adopted the quinary or novenary system" is wrong. It should be <strong>decimal system</strong>, or <strong>hexadecimal system</strong> (rarely seen now). See the <a href="http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%AE%97%E7%9B%98" rel="noreferrer">Chinese Wikipedia page</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abacus#Chinese" rel="noreferrer">English Wikipedia page</a> for details. What's more important, the abacus was invented after characters, so it is an unrelated topic in the explanation.</p></li>
  </ol>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (<em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>)</h3>

<h1>七</h1>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/QAeeh.gif" alt="甲骨文字典7.gif"></p>
  
  <p>【解字】於橫畫中加一小竪，會切斷橫畫之意，丁山謂<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/657eE.gif" alt="甲骨文字典7-1.gif">本象當中切斷形，自借為七數專名，不得不加刀于七以為切斷專字（《數名古誼》）。按其說可從。甲骨文七字橫畫較長，後因十字由<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/6RL2t.gif" alt="甲骨文字典7-2.gif"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/cF6ZZ.gif" alt="甲骨文字典7-3.gif">漸譌為<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/3b3Bz.gif" alt="甲骨文字典7-4.gif">，<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/657eE.gif" alt="甲骨文字典7-1.gif"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/3b3Bz.gif" alt="甲骨文字典7-4.gif">二形易溷，篆文七字乃彎曲竪畫而作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Zj2RQ.gif" alt="甲骨文字典7-5.gif">以與十區別。</p>
  
  <p><br> <strong>[Character Forming]</strong> Adding a small vertical stroke on the horizontal stroke, this <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character_classification#Compound_ideographs" rel="noreferrer">associative compound</a> character meant "cutting off the horizontal stroke". Ding Shan said in his paper <em>數名古誼</em>: "<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/657eE.gif" alt="甲骨文字典7-1.gif"> was originally a pictogram meaning cutting off in the middle. When it was borrowed to mean seven, a new character for the meaning <em>cutting off</em> had to be invented by adding 刀 (knife)." His view appears to be true. In oracle scripts, the horizontal stroke of seven was quite long, however, because later the numeral ten <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/6RL2t.gif" alt="甲骨文字典7-2.gif"> or <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/cF6ZZ.gif" alt="甲骨文字典7-3.gif"> was gradually mistakenly written like <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/3b3Bz.gif" alt="甲骨文字典7-4.gif">, the seal script seven then bent the vertical stroke as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Zj2RQ.gif" alt="甲骨文字典7-5.gif"> to be distinguished from ten (十).</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Rubbings</h3>

<p>No. 12606.</p>

<blockquote>
  <ul>
  <li><p><strong><em>(Upper part)</em></strong> 丙戌卜貞今夕亡<a href="http://www.zdic.net/z/88/js/211A5.htm" rel="noreferrer"></a>七月. Year of <a href="http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%99%E6%88%8C" rel="noreferrer">Bingxu</a>, devine to predict, showing it has no <a href="http://www.zdic.net/z/88/js/211A5.htm" rel="noreferrer"></a> tonight, the seventh month.</p></li>
  <li><p><strong><em>(Lower part)</em></strong> 貞今夕不雨七月. Show it won't rain tonight, the seventh month.</p></li>
  </ul>
  
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/a4swc.gif" alt="No.12606-丙戌卜貞今夕亡jiu七月.貞今夕不雨七月.gif"></p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Criticism on "<a href="http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3605" rel="noreferrer">Explanation of 七 in 象形字典 (<em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>)</a>"</h3>

<p>Both the dictionaries agree on the original meaning of the oracle glyph seven <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/657eE.gif" alt="甲骨文字典7-1.gif"> being <em>cutting off</em>. However, for the question <strong>why it stands for seven</strong>, they explain it in different ways:</p>

<ul>
<li><p><em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>: it is an extreme number, the <em>cutting</em> meaning is embodied in "cutting between six and eight".</p></li>
<li><p><em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>: again, the oracle glyph of seven is considered as a phonetic loan character.</p></li>
</ul>

<p>As mentioned above, Dictionary of Pictographs considering all integers from one to nine as extreme numbers is quite illogical and far-fetched. But <strong>how about the "phonetic loan character" explanation?</strong> Yes, it looks like a free riding -- it just explains <em>how</em> it came but bypasses the question <em>why</em> it came. Anyway, maybe, naming a thing (including numerals, of course) didn't have to have a concrete reason in the very early ancient times.     </p></li>
</ul>

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2013-12-26T06:47:16.077Z
2013-12-26T06:47:16.077Z
Stan
<h2>Etymology of 千</h2>

<ul>
<li><h3><a href="http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3612" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Explanation of 千 in 象形字典 (<em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>)</a></h3>

<blockquote>
  <p>千，甲骨文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/b8H9s.gif" alt="">在人<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/qtBUc.gif" alt="">的小腿部位加一横指事符号**<code>一</code>**，表示不停地行走。造字本义：不停地走，跋山涉水，<strike>即“迁”的本字</strike>（当“千”由本义“不停地行走”引申出数量词“十个一百”之后，甲骨文将“二千”二字写成“二”<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/OtuBp.gif" alt="">、“千”<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/897NS.gif" alt="">重叠的一个字<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/BLuL0.gif" alt="">；将“五千”二字写成“五”<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/cUHTc.gif" alt="">、“千”<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/897NS.gif" alt="">重叠的一个字<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/GNhTj.gif" alt="">）。金文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/eBDjb.gif" alt="">、篆文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/IH7aI.gif" alt="">承续甲骨文字形。隶书<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/QYtfL.gif" alt="">变化较大，失去甲骨文、金文、篆文字形中的“人”形。<strike>当“千”的“不停行走”本义消失后，后代再加“辵”另造“迁”代替。</strike></p>
  
  <p>The oracle glyph of 千 <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/b8H9s.gif" alt=""> adds an indicative symbol <strong><code>一</code></strong> on the man(<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/qtBUc.gif" alt="">)'s shank. It means "continuously walking". The original idea of character construction: continuously walking, crossing mountains and rivers, <strike>it's the original character of 迁 (move)</strike>. (When 千's original meaning "continuous walking" extended to "ten times of one hundred", the oracle script wrote "二<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/OtuBp.gif" alt=""> 千<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/897NS.gif" alt="">" as one overlapped character <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/BLuL0.gif" alt="">; and wrote "五<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/cUHTc.gif" alt=""> 千<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/897NS.gif" alt="">" as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/GNhTj.gif" alt="">.) Bronze script <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/eBDjb.gif" alt=""> and seal script <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/IH7aI.gif" alt=""> inherited the oracle glyph. The clerical glyph <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/QYtfL.gif" alt=""> changed a lot, lost the shape of a man (人). <strike>When the original meaning "continuously walking" of 千 disappeared, later 辵 was added to make it 迁 instead.</strike></p>
  
  <p><br><strong>Discussion</strong>:</p>
  
  <p>The conjecture "千 was the original character of 迁 (move)" on that website was made before the author knowing there were combined oracle glyphs like <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/cRZR1.gif" alt=""> and <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/sNZP0.gif" alt="">. A visitor with the nickname "熊猫" left his brilliant comments below that entry as</p>
  
  <blockquote>
    <p>熊猫 2012-12-22 5:43:30 说「千」为「迁」的初文，似不妥。甲骨文中还有「人」字腿上两横，「人」字腿上三横的字，就是两千和三千。所以「千」上的一横似没有更深的意思。况且小篆里面都没有「迁」这个字，只有「遷」。而且「遷」的异体字里，并无一个类似「迁」的字，可见「迁」本就是后人的俗字，无字理可言。以「迁」来附会「千」，实不妥。<br><br>
    2012-12-22 5:43:30 <b>Saying 千 is the original form of 迁 appears to be improper. In oracle scripts, there are also characters like "two strokes on 人" and "three strokes on 人", which respectively mean "two thousands" and "three thousands". So the one stroke in 千 shouldn't have a deeper meaning. Furthermore, in seal scripts, there isn't a character like "迁" but only "遷"; besides, in all the variant forms of 遷, there's no one like 迁. Thus essentially 迁 should be the folk form in the later times, without the principle of character forming as what the author has stated. Drawing a far-fetched conclusion for the false evolution "千=>迁", is really not proper.</b></p>
  </blockquote>
  
  <p>This comment has pointed out all the potential mistakes in <em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>'s theory, I fully agree with it. And the author replied:</p>
  
  <blockquote>
    <p>2012-12-26 3:32:07 感谢熊猫的批评与分享！“千”的甲骨文、金文字形十分丰富，绝大部分字形是“人”字加一横；至于极少数加两横、三横的，说明在造字时代“千”已经引申出了数词（十个百）的含义。<br><br>
    2012-12-26 3:32:07 Thanks for the criticism from 熊猫. The glyphs for 千 in oracle scripts and bronze scripts are very abundant, but almost all of them are "one stroke adding to 人"; for those tiny minority with "two or three strokes on 人", it just suggests 千 had extended to a numeral in the character making age.</p>
  </blockquote>
  
  <p>However it hadn't refuted 熊猫's criticism well. So I left a comment:</p>
  
  <blockquote>
    <p>2013-10-7 14:42:43 赞同网友熊猫的意见。管理员所说“至于极少数加两横、三横的”，单论甲骨文，给人字加二加三的非常常见，甚至还有一些加四横和加“五”字的。在《甲骨文合集》里面如果我没数漏的话，有千字的甲骨一共101片，里面出现的合体千字一共51个（有些一片里面有多于一个），所以用【极少】来形容之，显然不妥。<br><br>
    2013-10-7 14:42:43 I agree with 熊猫's criticism. For "those tiny minority with "two or three strokes on 人", alone in oracle scripts, they are quite common, even you can find some of them with four strokes or oracle five on it. In <em>Collections of Oracle Bones</em>, if I don't miss any, there are 101 pieces of bones with the character 千, 51 pieces of which have the "combined character 千" (some pieces contain more than one). Thus, using "tiny minority" to describe it, obviously, is not proper.</p>
  </blockquote>
  
  <p>And the author replied:</p>
  
  <blockquote>
    <p>2013-10-8 2:29:24 感谢溯度的批评！是的，“极少”的说法不妥！在“千”（并非“人”）字上加“二”或加“三”或加“四”或加“五”，本站以为这是古人对“二千”、“三千”、“四千”、“五千”简便合写，而这并不排除“千”的本义为“迁”：正因为“千”有“千万步不断前行”的本义，才引申出数量巨大的“十个百”的含义；而所谓“人+二”或“人+三”或“人+五”的字形，则是以“千”的引申义（数量词）为前提创造的字形。……今人未发现“迁”的金文、篆文，并不说明古代一定没有“迁”的金文、篆文，因为唐代楷书“迁”的字形，或许是全新创造，也可能是有所依循。“迁”强调长距离位移；“遷”强调为移居而转移。<br><br>
    2013-10-8 2:29:24 Thanks for the criticism! Yes, I admit the "tiny minority" description is not proper. But I think adding "二", "三", "四", or "五" to the character 千 (not 人) was a convenient combining writing for ancient people. It doesn't exclude the original meaning of 千 is 迁. Just because 千 has an original meaning "continuously walking forwards with thousands of steps", it can extends the large numeral meaning "ten times of one hundred"; The glyphs "人+二", "人+三" or "人+五", are based on the extended meaning of 千 (numeral). ... Although we cannot find any bronze script or seal script for the character 迁, it doesn't mean there mustn't be any in the ancient times, because the regular script 迁 in Tang Dynasty might be a new invention, and might be following something. (I think) 迁 emphasizes a long-distance displacement; and 遷 emphasizes "migration".</p>
  </blockquote>
  
  <p>Well, although this reply might be able to answer why <code>in seal scripts, there isn't a character like "迁" but only "遷"</code> (without support of material evidence, though), it hadn't explained one crux: why <strong><code>in all the variant forms of 遷, there's no one like 迁</code></strong>. Thus, personally I haven't been convinced yet.</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (<em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>)</h3>

<h1>千</h1>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/w43UC.gif" alt="甲骨文字典千.gif"></p>
  
  <p>【解字】《說文》：「千，十百也。从十从人。」甲骨文從一，<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/iX0kB.gif" alt="">（人）聲。以一加於人，借人聲為千。又甲骨文以加數目字於千字中表示數千，如二千作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/bkJz4.gif" alt="">，五千作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/DUyiP.gif" alt="">，等。</p>
  
  <p><strong>[Character Forming]</strong> <em>Shuowen</em> said: "千, ten times of one hundred. Radical is 十 and 人." For the oracle script 千, it's radical is 一, sounds as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/iX0kB.gif" alt=""> (人). Adding 一 to 人, borrowing the pronunciation of 人 as 千 (MY annotation: so it is a loan phonetic character). In oracle scripts, numerals can be added into the character 千 to mean several thousands, e.g. two thousand can be written as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/bkJz4.gif" alt="">, five thousand can be written as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/DUyiP.gif" alt="">, etc.</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Rubbings</h3>

<p>No. 17909: <strong>千</strong> ...七...白</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/u7NkS.gif" alt="No. 17909 - 千...七...白.gif"></p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 7771: 八日辛亥允伐 <strong>二千</strong> 六百五十人在...</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/d0gcF.gif" alt="No. 7771 - 八日辛亥允伐二千六百五十人在.gif"></p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 33182: 召方 <strong>二千</strong> 惟</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/1kg7l.gif" alt="No. 33182 - 召方二千惟.gif"></p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 6640 &amp; 6641 &amp; 6642: <strong>三千</strong></p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/N50uA.gif" alt="No. 6640-6641-6642 - 三千.gif"></p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 6175: 人 <strong>四千</strong> 呼...貞共人呼見...</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/dN3AV.gif" alt="No. 6175 - 人四千呼...貞共人呼見.gif"></p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 7317: 人 <strong>五千</strong> 呼</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/OG1z7.gif" alt="No. 7317 - 人五千呼.gif"></p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 17913: <strong>六千</strong></p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/MzEzl.gif" alt="No. 17913 - 六千.gif"></p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 31997: <strong>八千</strong></p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/DQJKs.gif" alt="No. 31997 - 八千.gif"></p>
</blockquote></li>
</ul>

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2013-12-31T10:16:38.463Z
2013-12-31T10:16:38.463Z
Stan
<h2>Etymology of 九</h2>

<ul>
<li><h3><a href="http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3607" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Explanation of 九 in 象形字典 (<em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>)</a></h3>

<blockquote>
  <p>九，甲骨文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/NwRAH.gif" alt="[1]jia(1).gif">是“厷”（肱、臂）与“又”（抓、掏）的组合，表示伸出手掏摸、探究，力求确定内部情况。造字本义：伸手往洞里掏摸、试探，以求确定情况。金文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/9vSHB.gif" alt="[2]jin(1).gif">承续甲骨文字形。篆文<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Rf4ax.gif" alt="[4]zhuan(1).gif">淡化了手形。当“九”的“掏摸、力求确定情况”的本义消失后，篆文再加“穴”（未知空间）另造“究”代替。</p>
  
  <p><br>The oracle script of nine <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/NwRAH.gif" alt="[1]jia(1).gif"> is a combination of 厷 (arm) and 又 (grab), and means "stretch out a hand to grab" and then extends to "explore", "try to make inside information clear". The original idea of character construction: stretch a hand into a hole to grab, in order to explore inside. The bronze script <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/9vSHB.gif" alt="[2]jin(1).gif"> inherits its oracle glyph, and the seal script <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Rf4ax.gif" alt="[4]zhuan(1).gif"> fade out the shape of a hand. When the original meaning "grab, explore" of 九 disappeared, the seal script added 穴 (hole, unknown space) to make it 究 instead.</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (<em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>)</h3>

<h1>九</h1>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/v9yPw.gif" alt="甲骨文字典9.gif"></p>
  
  <p>【解字】象曲鉤之形。鉤字古作句。內公鐘句作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/dXLL4.gif" alt="甲骨文字典9-1.gif">形，羅振玉云其狀正為圓環，下有物如蛇狀，尾上曲為鉤（《貞松堂集古遺文》卷十一）。句九古音同，故句得借為九，復於句形上加指示符號而作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/mkme8.gif" alt="甲骨文字典9-2.gif"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/qOugz.gif" alt="甲骨文字典9-3.gif">。</p>
  
  <p><br> <strong>[Character Forming]</strong> It was a pictograph of a <strong><em>hook</em></strong>. 鉤 (hook) was written as 句 in ancient times. On the Ruigong Bell, 句 was carved as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/dXLL4.gif" alt="甲骨文字典9-1.gif">. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luo_Zhenyu" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Luo Zhenyu</a> (an important Chinese classical scholar, philologist, epigrapher, antiquarian and Qing loyalist) said "its shape was exactly a ring with a dangling snake-like object; the tail curled upwards as a hook." (in <em>貞松堂集古遺文</em>, volume 11). 句 and nine pronounced the same in the ancient times, so 句 (hook) is borrowed to mean the numeral nine as a loan phonetic character with an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character#Simple_ideograms" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><strong><em>indicative symbol</em></strong></a> on it as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/mkme8.gif" alt="甲骨文字典9-2.gif"> or <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/qOugz.gif" alt="甲骨文字典9-3.gif">.</p>
  
  <p><strong>My Annotation</strong>: </p>
  
  <p>The <em>indicative symbol</em> is a symbol on a pictograph character, which aims at making a new character to have new meanings. For example:</p>
  
  <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/gH6f4.png" alt="indicativeSymbol.png"> </p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><h3>My Analyses</h3>

<p>First, let's summarize the major points in the two dictionaries:</p>

<ul>
<li><p><em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em></p>

<blockquote>
  <ol>
  <li>The oracle nine is a combination of 厷(arm) and 又(grab). (Implicitly, it suggests 九 was a loan phonetic character, as 厷 and 九 sounded alike in the ancient times.)</li>
  <li>九 is the origin of 究. (It's unlikely to be true, because 究 isn't only written as the glyph that <em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em> has analyzed, but also as <a href="http://www.zdic.net/z/8a/kx/21AC4.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer"></a> in <a href="http://www.internationalscientific.org/CharacterEtymology.aspx?submitButton1=Etymology&amp;characterInput=%E7%A9%B6" rel="nofollow noreferrer">ancient forms</a>.)</li>
  </ol>
</blockquote></li>
<li><p><em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em></p>

<blockquote>
  <p>九 is a loan phonetic character. It is formed by a hook (句) and an indicative symbol.</p>
</blockquote></li>
</ul>

<p>Second, let's consider the difference in these two explanations. The core problem is then clear:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/KtGbP.png" alt="upper.png">
  <br>Is the upper part (colored blue) of nine an <strong><em>indicative symbol (shape of a bar)</em></strong> or a <strong><em>hand (shape of the oracle glyph 又)</em></strong>?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>We will compare the oracle glyphs: 九, 又, and 厷.</p>

<ul>
<li><p>九 <a href="http://www.internationalscientific.org/CharacterEtymology.aspx?submitButton1=Etymology&amp;characterInput=%E4%B9%9D" rel="nofollow noreferrer">(Source: Chinese Etymology website)</a></p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/gRxbp.png" alt="hanzi-nine.png"></p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><p>又 <em>hand</em> <a href="http://www.internationalscientific.org/CharacterEtymology.aspx?submitButton1=Etymology&amp;characterInput=%E5%8F%88" rel="nofollow noreferrer">(Source: Chinese Etymology website)</a></p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/8qd5y.gif" alt="hanzi-又.gif"></p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><p>厷 <em>arm</em> (Source: Dictionary of Oracle Scripts)</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/b4QCw.gif" alt="厷.gif"></p>
</blockquote></li>
</ul>

<p>Now we can see, the characteristic of the pattern of 又 , the "hand part", is written in broken lines or an arc. However, the key part in most character forms of 九 is not written like that but just a straight bar. Only few of them are written like an arc.</p>

<p>What's interesting, the entry of 厷 in <em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em> says:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>甲骨文或省指事符號作<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/o4Mvb.gif" alt="厷like九.gif">，致與九字形近。</p>
  
  <p>... Some oracle glyph of 厷 would omit the indicative symbol to be written as <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/o4Mvb.gif" alt="厷like九.gif">, which makes it look like 九.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>In conclusion, although the comparison result supports the opinion of <em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em> more, as this ambiguity actually exists, I won't negate the opinion of <em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>, but would like to consider the opinion of <em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em> more reliable :D</p></li>
<li><h3>Rubbings</h3>

<p>內公鐘(Ruigong Bell, 內 is an interchangeable character for 芮)</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/2hM4F.gif" alt="Ruigong Bell"></p>
  
  <p>內(芮)公乍(作)從鐘，子孫永寶用。 </p>
  
  <p>(On the hook) 內(芮)公乍(作)鑄從鐘之句(鉤)</p>
</blockquote>

<p>No. 1055.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/aLUCQ.gif" alt="No.1055.gif"></p>
  
  <p>四日<a href="http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B9%99%E9%85%89" rel="nofollow noreferrer">乙酉</a>...九人...在...</p>
</blockquote></li>
</ul>

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When scrolling down on the list of 九 characters, I got a sort of animated effect of birds flying across the screen.
March Ho
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@MarchHo haha XD
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<h1>Summary: Etymology of Number Characters</h1>

<ol>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/3888/2816">一(one), 二(two), 三(three)</a></p>

<blockquote>
  <p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character" rel="noreferrer">Simple ideographs / Self-explanatory characters</a>. Originate from the ancient counting rods. (Explanation from <em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>.)</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/4905/2816">亖 and 四 (four)</a></p>

<blockquote>
  <ul>
  <li>亖: Simple ideograph. Originate from the ancient counting rods.</li>
  <li>四: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character_classification#Rebus_.28phonetic_loan.29_characters" rel="noreferrer">Phonetic loan character</a>. Come from 呬 or 泗. (Explanation from <em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>.)</li>
  </ul>
</blockquote></li>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/4914/2816">五 (five)</a></p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Phonetic loan character. Originate from 午 in 子午 (meridian). (Explanation from <em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>.)</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/4927/2816">六 (six)</a></p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Phonetic loan character. Originate from 廬 (cottage/hut). (Explanation from <em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>.)</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5421/2816">七 (seven)</a></p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Phonetic loan character. Originate from 切 (cut). (Explanation from <em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>.)</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5424/2816">八 (eight)</a></p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Phonetic loan character. Original meaning is 分别 (being parted). (Explanation from <em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>.)</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5438/2816">九 (nine)</a></p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Phonetic loan character. Original meaning is 鉤 (hook). (Explanation from <em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>.)</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5446/2816">十 (ten), 廿(niàn, twenty), 卅(sà, thirty), 卌(xì, forty)</a></p>

<blockquote>
  <ul>
  <li><p>Simple ideographs. Originate from counting rods. One vertical rod stands for one ten. (Explanation from <em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>.)</p></li>
  <li><p>Pictographs. Originate from the rope for keeping records by tying knots. One rope stands for one ten. (Explanation from <em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>.)</p></li>
  </ul>
</blockquote></li>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5455/2816">百 (hundred)</a></p>

<blockquote>
  <ul>
  <li><p>Phonetic loan character. Originate from 白 (a kind of ancient container). (Explanation from <em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>.)</p></li>
  <li><p>Simple ideograph. It means "endlessly talking with the tongue" and then extends to one hundred. (Explanation from <em>Dictionary of Pictographs</em>.)</p></li>
  </ul>
</blockquote></li>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5462/2816">千 (thousand)</a></p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Phonetic loan character. It borrows the pronunciation of 人 (human). (Explanation from <em>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</em>.)</p>
</blockquote></li>
</ol>

<p><br>
<i>Note: As the number characters can date from a very ancient age, the research on their etymologies can hardly be a rigorous science -- it inevitably involves subjective conjectures. The explanations I picked above are the ones I consider "appearing more reliable", i.e., for which less contradiction are found among archaeological findings. However, I don't mean they are the very truth. I will appreciate comments and edits that would refine these answers. Thank you!</i></p>

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Stan
<p>Main Question: What is the glyph origin of the Chinese number characters (一二三四五六七八九十百千)?</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Related question: <a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/3840/why-isnt-%E5%9B%9B-four-lines-the-origin-of-%E4%B8%80-%E4%BA%8C-%E4%B8%89-%E5%9B%9B-%E4%BA%94-%E5%85%AD-%E4%B8%83-%E5%85%AB-%E4%B9%9D">Why isn't 四 four lines? (the origin of 一 二 三 四 五 六 七 八 九)</a></p>
</blockquote>
<p>I decide to write a Q&amp;A-style post to <strong>discuss</strong> this question. What motivates me to do this, is</p>
<ul>
<li><p>In that brilliant question asked by @congusbongus, @congliu offers a good reference <a href="http://vividict.com/" rel="noreferrer"><code>象形字典</code></a>(a literally translation would be <em><strong>Dictionary of Pictographs</strong></em>). The explanation of the question &quot;where does a Chinese character come from&quot; can be easily found on that site, so it is really convenient for those who are interested in the glyph origin of Chinese characters.</p>
</li>
<li><p>However, personally I cannot bear some <em><strong>subjective or illogical</strong></em> viewpoints on that site. It seems the administrator of <a href="http://vividict.com/" rel="noreferrer">象形字典 (<em><strong>Dictionary of Pictographs</strong></em>)</a> hasn't make much efforts on historical issues.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Thus, in this post, I will</p>
<ul>
<li><p>provide the mainstream viewpoints on the glyph origins of the Chinese number characters <code>一二三四五六七八九十百千</code>;</p>
</li>
<li><p>criticize the subjective or illogical viewpoints on <a href="http://vividict.com/" rel="noreferrer">象形字典 (<em><strong>Dictionary of Pictographs</strong></em>)</a>;</p>
</li>
<li><p>post some rubbing pictures to prove my viewpoint.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<br>
<h2>Index</h2>
<ul>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5463/2816"><strong>Summary: A brief answer</strong></a></p>
</li>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/3888/2816">Glyph origins of 一 (one), 二 (two), and 三 (three)</a></p>
</li>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/4905/2816">Glyph origin of 四 (four)</a></p>
</li>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/4914/2816">Glyph origin of 五 (five)</a></p>
</li>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/4927/2816">Glyph origin of 六 (six)</a></p>
</li>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5421/2816">Glyph origin of 七 (seven)</a></p>
</li>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5424/2816">Glyph origin of 八 (eight)</a></p>
</li>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5438/2816">Glyph origin of 九 (nine)</a></p>
</li>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5446/2816">Glyph origins of 十 (ten), 廿(niàn, twenty), 卅(sà, thirty), 卌(xì, forty)</a></p>
</li>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5455/2816">Glyph origin of 百 (hundred)</a></p>
</li>
<li><p><a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5462/2816">Glyph origin of 千 (thousand)</a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<br>
<h2>References</h2>
<ul>
<li><p><a href="http://vividict.com/" rel="noreferrer">象形字典 (<em><strong>Dictionary of Pictographs</strong></em>)</a>.</p>
</li>
<li><p><a href="http://images.gg-art.com/dictionary/odindex.php#alpha" rel="noreferrer">《甲骨文字典》(<em><strong>Dictionary of Oracle Scripts</strong></em>)</a> by 徐中舒. Published in 1990. It is a dictionary epitomizing fifty-five important references of oracle scripts. The viewpoints on this dictionary are considered to be the mainstream, because most of them are supported by material evidence.</p>
</li>
<li><p><a href="http://inscription.sinica.edu.tw/c_index.php" rel="noreferrer">先秦甲骨文金文簡牘詞彙資料庫 (Lexicon of Pre-Qin Oracle, Bronze Inscriptions and Bamboo Scripts)</a>. A useful online lexical search tool for Oracle, Bronze Inscriptions and Bamboo Scripts.</p>
</li>
<li><p>漢珍資訊:甲骨文全文影像資料庫. A very good database supporting textual search of oracle scripts on rubbings. A special software is needed to view the rubbing pictures. Unfortunately it is not free now.</p>
</li>
<li><p>《甲骨文合集》(<em>Collections of Oracle Bones</em>). Editor-in-Chief 郭沫若.</p>
</li>
<li><p>《甲骨文合集释文》(<em>Textual Research on 'Collections of Oracle Bones'</em>). Editor 胡厚宣.</p>
</li>
<li><p>《殷周金文集成》(<em>Collections of Bronze Scripts in Shang Dynasty and Zhou Dynasty</em>) by  Institute of Archaeology, Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.</p>
</li>
</ul>

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writing a thesis?
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@congusbongus not rigorous enough to be a thesis, just some relatively comprehensive information. I am a little worried about the possibly misleading information in 象形字典. But now I find it seems too long :( Anyway, I would finish it.
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You should put the explanations for different characters in different answers, as they're very long, for example one answer for 一二三, one for 四 and so on. Then add links to those answers in the question itself, like in the [Resources for learning Mandarin Chinese](http://chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/1120/resources-for-learning-mandarin-chinese) question.
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@congusbongus very good suggestion!
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Recently I have to write some papers for my boss, so I have not much time to compose this post currently. Anyway I will finish this post before the end of this year :D
Stan
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I'm BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK XD
Stan
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=w= finally I did it ...
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Do you have a shorter summary of your conclusions? You restate different opinion of scholars and their criticism, but it is not clear what you think about them, and for ease of reading of future readers.
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@Violapterin thx for the comment. But sorry I don't have a plan to dig deeper so it's difficult to come out with new ideas -- my opinions are relatively not important :D
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Etymology of the Chinese number characters (一二三四五六七八九十百千)
# Etymology of the Chinese number characters (一二三四五六七八九十百千)

(Asked by: username_0 on 2013-10-11)

Main Question: What is the glyph origin of the Chinese number characters (一二三四五六七八九十百千)?

> Related question: [Why isn't 四 four lines? (the origin of 一 二 三 四 五 六 七 八 九)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/3840/why-isnt-%E5%9B%9B-four-lines-the-origin-of-%E4%B8%80-%E4%BA%8C-%E4%B8%89-%E5%9B%9B-%E4%BA%94-%E5%85%AD-%E4%B8%83-%E5%85%AB-%E4%B9%9D)

I decide to write a Q&A-style post to **discuss** this question. What motivates me to do this, is

* In that brilliant question asked by @username_1, @congliu offers a good reference [`象形字典`](http://vividict.com/)(a literally translation would be ***Dictionary of Pictographs***). The explanation of the question "where does a Chinese character come from" can be easily found on that site, so it is really convenient for those who are interested in the glyph origin of Chinese characters.
* However, personally I cannot bear some ***subjective or illogical*** viewpoints on that site. It seems the administrator of [象形字典 (***Dictionary of Pictographs***)](http://vividict.com/) hasn't make much efforts on historical issues.

Thus, in this post, I will

* provide the mainstream viewpoints on the glyph origins of the Chinese number characters `一二三四五六七八九十百千`;
* criticize the subjective or illogical viewpoints on [象形字典 (***Dictionary of Pictographs***)](http://vividict.com/);
* post some rubbing pictures to prove my viewpoint.

  

## Index

* [**Summary: A brief answer**](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5463/2816)
* [Glyph origins of 一 (one), 二 (two), and 三 (three)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/3888/2816)
* [Glyph origin of 四 (four)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/4905/2816)
* [Glyph origin of 五 (five)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/4914/2816)
* [Glyph origin of 六 (six)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/4927/2816)
* [Glyph origin of 七 (seven)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5421/2816)
* [Glyph origin of 八 (eight)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5424/2816)
* [Glyph origin of 九 (nine)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5438/2816)
* [Glyph origins of 十 (ten), 廿(niàn, twenty), 卅(sà, thirty), 卌(xì, forty)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5446/2816)
* [Glyph origin of 百 (hundred)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5455/2816)
* [Glyph origin of 千 (thousand)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5462/2816)

  

## References

* [象形字典 (***Dictionary of Pictographs***)](http://vividict.com/).
* [《甲骨文字典》(***Dictionary of Oracle Scripts***)](http://images.gg-art.com/dictionary/odindex.php#alpha) by 徐中舒. Published in 1990. It is a dictionary epitomizing fifty-five important references of oracle scripts. The viewpoints on this dictionary are considered to be the mainstream, because most of them are supported by material evidence.
* [先秦甲骨文金文簡牘詞彙資料庫 (Lexicon of Pre-Qin Oracle, Bronze Inscriptions and Bamboo Scripts)](http://inscription.sinica.edu.tw/c_index.php). A useful online lexical search tool for Oracle, Bronze Inscriptions and Bamboo Scripts.
* 漢珍資訊:甲骨文全文影像資料庫. A very good database supporting textual search of oracle scripts on rubbings. A special software is needed to view the rubbing pictures. Unfortunately it is not free now.
* 《甲骨文合集》(*Collections of Oracle Bones*). Editor-in-Chief 郭沫若.
* 《甲骨文合集释文》(*Textual Research on 'Collections of Oracle Bones'*). Editor 胡厚宣.
* 《殷周金文集成》(*Collections of Bronze Scripts in Shang Dynasty and Zhou Dynasty*) by Institute of Archaeology, Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

**Tags:** characters, etymology, glyph-origin, history

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: writing a thesis?  
> **username_0**: @username_1 not rigorous enough to be a thesis, just some relatively comprehensive information. I am a little worried about the possibly misleading information in 象形字典. But now I find it seems too long :( Anyway, I would finish it.  
> **username_1**: You should put the explanations for different characters in different answers, as they're very long, for example one answer for 一二三, one for 四 and so on. Then add links to those answers in the question itself, like in the [Resources for learning Mandarin Chinese](http://chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/1120/resources-for-learning-mandarin-chinese) question.  
> **username_0**: @username_1 very good suggestion!  
> **username_0**: Recently I have to write some papers for my boss, so I have not much time to compose this post currently. Anyway I will finish this post before the end of this year :D  
> **username_0**: I'm BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK XD  
> **username_0**: =w= finally I did it ...  
> **username_2**: Do you have a shorter summary of your conclusions? You restate different opinion of scholars and their criticism, but it is not clear what you think about them, and for ease of reading of future readers.  
> **username_0**: @username_2 thx for the comment. But sorry I don't have a plan to dig deeper so it's difficult to come out with new ideas -- my opinions are relatively not important :D  

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## 11 answers

### Answer by username_0 on 2013-12-31. Score: 11 | Accepted answer

# Summary: Etymology of Number Characters

1. [一(one), 二(two), 三(three)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/3888/2816)

   > [Simple ideographs / Self-explanatory characters](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character). Originate from the ancient counting rods. (Explanation from *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*.)
2. [亖 and 四 (four)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/4905/2816)

   > * 亖: Simple ideograph. Originate from the ancient counting rods.
   > * 四: [Phonetic loan character](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character_classification#Rebus_.28phonetic_loan.29_characters). Come from 呬 or 泗. (Explanation from *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*.)
3. [五 (five)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/4914/2816)

   > Phonetic loan character. Originate from 午 in 子午 (meridian). (Explanation from *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*.)
4. [六 (six)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/4927/2816)

   > Phonetic loan character. Originate from 廬 (cottage/hut). (Explanation from *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*.)
5. [七 (seven)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5421/2816)

   > Phonetic loan character. Originate from 切 (cut). (Explanation from *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*.)
6. [八 (eight)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5424/2816)

   > Phonetic loan character. Original meaning is 分别 (being parted). (Explanation from *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*.)
7. [九 (nine)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5438/2816)

   > Phonetic loan character. Original meaning is 鉤 (hook). (Explanation from *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*.)
8. [十 (ten), 廿(niàn, twenty), 卅(sà, thirty), 卌(xì, forty)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5446/2816)

   > * Simple ideographs. Originate from counting rods. One vertical rod stands for one ten. (Explanation from *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*.)
   > * Pictographs. Originate from the rope for keeping records by tying knots. One rope stands for one ten. (Explanation from *Dictionary of Pictographs*.)
9. [百 (hundred)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5455/2816)

   > * Phonetic loan character. Originate from 白 (a kind of ancient container). (Explanation from *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*.)
   > * Simple ideograph. It means "endlessly talking with the tongue" and then extends to one hundred. (Explanation from *Dictionary of Pictographs*.)
10. [千 (thousand)](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5462/2816)

    > Phonetic loan character. It borrows the pronunciation of 人 (human). (Explanation from *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*.)

*Note: As the number characters can date from a very ancient age, the research on their etymologies can hardly be a rigorous science -- it inevitably involves subjective conjectures. The explanations I picked above are the ones I consider "appearing more reliable", i.e., for which less contradiction are found among archaeological findings. However, I don't mean they are the very truth. I will appreciate comments and edits that would refine these answers. Thank you!*


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### Answer by username_0 on 2013-10-11. Score: 19

## Etymology of 一, 二, and 三

* ### [Explanation of 一/二/三 in 象形字典 (*Dictionary of Pictographs*)](http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3598)

  > “一”是特殊指事字，抽象符号“一”既代表最为简单的起源，也代表最为丰富的浑沌整体。造字本义：最小原始单位，最小的正整数。古人认为“道立于一，一生二，二生三，三生万物”。就是说，混沌太初的存在整体是“一”；然后由太初混沌的“一”，分出天地“二”极；天地二极之间，又生出人这第“三”部分；天地人三者，衍化出宇宙万物。一 ，代替混沌太初的整体；二，上面的一横代表“天”，下面的一横代表“地”；三，上下两横代表“天地”，中间的一横代表“人”。
  >
  > 一 is a special self-explanatory character. The abstract symbol `一` presents not only the simplest origin, but also the abundant chaos entirety. The original idea of character construction: the smallest basic unit, the smallest positive integer. Ancient Chinese people thought "[Tao](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao) stands on `一`(*one*), `一`(*one*) bears `二`(*two*), `二`(*two*) bears `三`(*three*), `三`(*three*) bears everything". That is to say, the entity of original chaos is `一`; then the chaos origin `一` differentiates into `二极`(*two extremes*), the sky and the earth; and between the two extremes, there breed humans (the `三`); And finally, everything in the universe are derived from the sky, the earth and the humans. In conclusion, 一 presents the whole of the chaos origin; 二, the top bar stands for the sky and the bottom bar stands for the earth; 三, the top and the bottom is respectively the sky and the earth, the middle represents humans.
  >
  > **My Annotation**: The statement "道立于一" (Tao stands on *one*) is a little different from "道生一" (Tao gives birth to *one*) in [*Tao Te Ching*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao_Te_Ching). This paper [*“道生一” “道始於一” “道立於一” 合解*](http://www.cnki.com.cn/Article/CJFDTotal-JMDZ20050100C.htm) offers a further discussion on this issue.
* ### Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (*Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*)

  # 一

  > ![甲骨文字典：一](https://i.sstatic.net/eYHJt.png)
  >
  > 【解字】卜辭由一至四，字形作![一](https://i.sstatic.net/dYVw5.png)、![二](https://i.sstatic.net/EWCGx.png)、![三](https://i.sstatic.net/MhuTD.png)、![亖](https://i.sstatic.net/ZAmxY.png)，以積畫為數，當出於古之算籌。甲文金文均同。屬於指事字。從五至九，則利用假借字，其形作![五1](https://i.sstatic.net/JBhFD.png)（或![五2](https://i.sstatic.net/ZKE08.png)）、![六1](https://i.sstatic.net/Ic5ZK.png)（或![六2](https://i.sstatic.net/39NyR.png)）、![七](https://i.sstatic.net/ugZxR.png)、![八](https://i.sstatic.net/0Zun5.png)、![九](https://i.sstatic.net/cjGOA.png)，至十則為豎形。
  >
  > **[Character Forming]** The glyphs of one to four in oracle inscriptions are respectively ![一](https://i.sstatic.net/dYVw5.png), ![二](https://i.sstatic.net/EWCGx.png), ![三](https://i.sstatic.net/MhuTD.png), and ![亖](https://i.sstatic.net/ZAmxY.png). The method of counting strokes is used for representing the number. ***It should originate from the ancient [counting rods](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting_rods).*** Their glyphs in bronze scripts are the same to those in oracle scripts. And they belong to the self-explanatory characters. From five to nine, oracle script uses the loan characters: ![五1](https://i.sstatic.net/JBhFD.png) (or ![五2](https://i.sstatic.net/ZKE08.png)), ![六1](https://i.sstatic.net/Ic5ZK.png) (or ![六2](https://i.sstatic.net/39NyR.png)), ![七](https://i.sstatic.net/ugZxR.png), ![八](https://i.sstatic.net/0Zun5.png), ![九](https://i.sstatic.net/cjGOA.png), and *ten* is a vertical shape.
  >
  > ![象牙算籌](https://i.sstatic.net/2jPZ4.jpg)  
  > *Ivory Counting Rods in Western Han Dynasty (206 B.C. -- A.D. 8). Photographed by maverwolf in Shaanxi History Museum.*

  # 二

  > ![甲骨文字典：二](https://i.sstatic.net/WhUm5.png)
  >
  > **[Character Forming]** The glyphs of one to four in oracle inscriptions are respectively ![一](https://i.sstatic.net/dYVw5.png), ![二](https://i.sstatic.net/EWCGx.png), ![三](https://i.sstatic.net/MhuTD.png), and ![亖](https://i.sstatic.net/ZAmxY.png). The method of counting strokes is used for representing the number. It should originate from the ancient [counting rods](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting_rods). ***Note that, the two strokes of `二` in oracle script should be of equal length. It is different from ![上](https://i.sstatic.net/gdTUt.png) (上) and ![下](https://i.sstatic.net/Gk56Z.png) (下).***

  # 三

  > ![甲骨文字典：三](https://i.sstatic.net/wMbq1.png)
  >
  > **[Character Forming]** See explanation of `一` above.
* ### Rubbings

  No. 032013: 貞(divine to predict) ?? 來(come)，一(one) 羌(western shepherd) 一(one) 牛(ox)。

  > ![一(32013，一羌一牛)](https://i.sstatic.net/Qvw3B.png)

  No. 034575: [庚午(year of 庚午)](http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BA%9A%E5%8D%88) 貞(divine to predict) 餗(food in a cooking vessel)，餗 其(, a basket made by bamboo splits; it; its) 二(two) 牛(ox)。

  > ![二（34575，庚午貞餗 餗其二牛）](https://i.sstatic.net/2O76C.png)

  No. 032110: 其 一(one) 羌(western shepherd) 三(three) 牛(oxen)

  > ![三（32110，其一羌三牛）](https://i.sstatic.net/kS5hy.png)
* ### Criticism on ["Explanation of 一/二/三 in 象形字典 (Dictionary of Pictographs)"](http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3598)

  The explanations of 一/二/三 in *Dictionary of Pictographs* are some concepts from [《周易》(*I Ching*)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching), [《道德經》(*Tao Te Ching*)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao_Te_Ching) and [《淮南子》(*Huainanzi*)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huainanzi). And such a statement for 一 is similar to that in 《說文解字》(*Shuowen*):

  ```
  惟初太始，道立于一，造分天地，化成萬物。

  ```

  But let's consider these questions:

  1. *I Ching* was one of the oldest Chinese classic text, written in Western Zhou Dynasty; *Tao Te Ching* was written in Warring States Period (newer than *I Ching*); And *Huainanzi* and *Shuowen* were even newer. So ***question 1: was it possible for ancient Chinese people to have such philosophical thinking, before the early period of Shang Dynasty when oracle scripts were invented?***
  2. As number characters are very important in communication, they must appear at the early stage of oracle scripts. So ***question 2: at that early stage, would ancient Chinese people create 一/二/三 by such abstract thinking rather than by concrete images?***

  Unfortunately these two questions are both based on conjectures. So there isn't a definite "yes" or "no" answer. For question 1, I would say the earliest evidence we have found today is *I Ching*, and personally I don't believe philosophical thinking like "道立于一" (Tao stands on *one*) can date from an earlier period before the creation of the writing system. For question 2, it was illogical to invent the "basic characters" utilizing very abstract concepts, or, it would very probably make the communication become more difficult.

  Besides, [算籌 (counting rods)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting_rods) were used by ancient Chinese for more than two thousand years. It was possible to appear during or before the creation period of oracle scripts.

  > So in conclusion, for the explanation of etymology of 一/二/三, opinions in *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts* are more reliable: **they should originate from the ancient counting rods.**


---

### Answer by username_0 on 2013-10-14. Score: 10

## Etymology of 四

* ### [Explanation of 四 in 象形字典 (*Dictionary of Pictograph*)](http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3602)

  > “四”是特殊指事字，甲骨文![象形字典四1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/adOTb.gif)的字形，表示其为“二”的两倍。造字本义：两倍于二的正整数。金文![象形字典四2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/wUVFv.gif)承续甲骨文字形。将金文的横笔竖写，就成了![象形字典四3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/XB958.gif)；将![象形字典四3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/XB958.gif)与![象形字典四4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif)（二，表示4是2的倍数）合写，就成了![象形字典四5.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7c8wA.gif)。有的金文![象形字典四6.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/IRg1J.gif)在![象形字典四5.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7c8wA.gif)的基础上再加“二”![象形字典四4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif)，强调“四”![象形字典四2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/wUVFv.gif)与“二” ![象形字典四4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif)的倍数关系。篆文![象形字典四7.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/kfIok.gif)省去金文![象形字典四6.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/IRg1J.gif)中的“二”![象形字典四4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif)。
  >
  > 四 is a special self-explanatory character. Its oracle glyph ![象形字典四1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/adOTb.gif) represents it is the twice of 二. The original idea of character construction: twice of 二. Its bronze glyph ![象形字典四2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/wUVFv.gif) is derived from the oracle glyph. If we write the strokes of the bronze script vertically, it becomes ![象形字典四3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/XB958.gif); and then combine ![象形字典四3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/XB958.gif) and ![象形字典四4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif) (two, meaning 4 is twice of 2), it becomes ![象形字典四5.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7c8wA.gif). Some bronze script ![象形字典四6.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/IRg1J.gif) is written as adding a two ![象形字典四4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif) to ![象形字典四5.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7c8wA.gif), emphasizing the multiple relationship between "four" ![象形字典四2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/wUVFv.gif) and "two" ![象形字典四4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif). The seal script ![象形字典四7.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/kfIok.gif) omits ![象形字典四4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif) in the bronze script ![象形字典四6.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/IRg1J.gif).
  >
  > **My Annotation**: note that there's ***NO*** ![象形字典四6.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/IRg1J.gif) or ![象形字典四7.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/kfIok.gif) in oracle scripts. *Dictionary of Pictograph* here discusses three types of scripts -- oracle, bronze, and seal. For more interesting glyph of 四, see [the Chinese etymology site](http://www.internationalscientific.org/CharacterEtymology.aspx?submitButton1=Etymology&characterInput=%E5%9B%9B).
* ### Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (*Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*)

  # 四

  > ![甲骨文字典：四.png](https://i.sstatic.net/yMgVz.png)
  >
  > 【解字】甲骨文一、二、三、四皆以積畫成數，蓋取象於橫置之算籌。早期金文亦作![孟鼎四.png](https://i.sstatic.net/QkaOU.png)（孟鼎）、![墙盘四.png](https://i.sstatic.net/EtZjF.png)（牆盤），與甲骨文同。至春秋戰國時期四字作![郘钟四.png](https://i.sstatic.net/KRoR9.png)（郘鐘）、![徐王子钟四.png](https://i.sstatic.net/Yzskg.png)（徐王子鐘）、![大梁鼎四.png](https://i.sstatic.net/ivB08.png)（大梁鼎），為《說文》篆文![篆文四.png](https://i.sstatic.net/ozUKd.png)所本。此形乃借為數名。丁山謂其本為呬息字（《數名古誼》），馬敘倫則說為涕泗字（《中國文字之源流與研究方法之新傾向》）。
  >
  > **[Character Forming]** The method of counting strokes is used for representing the number in oracle 一, 二, 三, and 四. Their glyphs originate from counting rods that are put horizontally. Early bronze scripts were also carved as ![孟鼎四.png](https://i.sstatic.net/QkaOU.png) (on 孟鼎 Meng cooking vessel), ![墙盘四.png](https://i.sstatic.net/EtZjF.png) (on 牆盤 Wall plate) -- the same as oracle glyph. During the Warring States period / Spring and Autumn Period, bronze 四 became ![郘钟四.png](https://i.sstatic.net/KRoR9.png) (on 郘鐘 Shao bell), ![徐王子钟四.png](https://i.sstatic.net/Yzskg.png) (on 徐王子鐘 Prince Xu bell), ![大梁鼎四.png](https://i.sstatic.net/ivB08.png) (on 大梁鼎 Big Liang cooking vessel) -- they were the origin of the seal glyph ![篆文四.png](https://i.sstatic.net/ozUKd.png) in *Shuowen*. The bronze 四 was a loan character. In *數名古誼* (*The Ancient Meaning of the Chinese Number Names*) by 丁山 (Ding Shan), the origin of 四's bronze glyph is explained as "from 呬(breathing) in 呬息 (breathing)"; In *中國文字之源流與研究方法之新傾向* (*New Trend of Research Methods of the Etymology of Chinese Characters*) by 馬敘倫 (Ma Xulun), it is explained as "from 泗 (snot) in 涕泗 (tears and snot)".
  >
  > **My Annotation**: [loan character / phonetic loan character / rebus character](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character_classification#Rebus_.28phonetic_loan.29_characters), as the name suggesting, are characters that are "borrowed" to write another homophonous or near-homophonous morpheme. **So for the question "where did bronze glyph 四 come from", 甲骨文字典 (*Dictionary of Oracle scripts*) adopts two viewpoints: it came from 呬 or 泗.**
  >
  > ![孟鼎](https://i.sstatic.net/3aXfY.jpg)  
  > **孟鼎 Meng cooking vessel.** Kept in National Museum of China.
  >
  > ![牆盤](https://i.sstatic.net/w6DXb.jpg)  
  > **牆盤 Wall plate.** Kept in Zhouyuan Institute of Administration of Cultural Relics, Fufeng Town, Baoji City, Shaanxi Province.
  >
  > ![郘鐘](https://i.sstatic.net/QYSqm.jpg)  
  > **郘鐘 Lü bell.** Kept in Shanghai Museum.
  >
  > ![徐王子鐘](https://i.sstatic.net/absEQ.jpg)  
  > **徐王子鐘 Prince Xu bell.**
* ### Rubbings

  Let's play a game: can you find `四` in these rubbings? ***Open the links in a new window/tab to view full-resolution image***

  1. [郘鐘拓片 (Rubbing of Lü bell).](https://i.sstatic.net/I49ij.jpg)
  2. [徐王子鐘拓片 (Rubbing of Prince Xu bell).](https://i.sstatic.net/aMDAw.jpg)
  3. [大梁鼎拓片 (Rubbing of Big Liang cooking vessel).](https://i.sstatic.net/181Pv.png)
* ### Criticism on ["Explanation of 四 in 象形字典 (*Dictionary of Pictograph*)"](http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3602)

  The major points of statements for 四 in *Dictionary of Pictograph* are

  1. `亖` meant twice of two.
  2. ![象形字典四5.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7c8wA.gif) was the result of combining ![象形字典四3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/XB958.gif) and ![象形字典四4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif), emphasizing four was twice of two.
  3. (Though *Dictionary of Pictograph* doesn't clearly state that, it implicitly suggests) the bronze four came from ![象形字典四5.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7c8wA.gif).

  ***For statement 1***, it is OK to explain it like that. Either `2x2=4` or `counting strokes` gives the correct answer. In *說文解字注* (*Annotations on Shuowen*) by 段玉裁 (Duan Yucai), it was

  ```
  此筭法之二二如四也。

  This is a calculation "two and two make four".

  ```

  "二二如四 (two and two make four)" would support the "multiple relationship" viewpoint, but not necessarily be the truth. Because there is already a "multiple relationship" rule (we will discuss it in the Etymology of 十) for carving a number: `>= 5` times of ten, combine the multiplication factor below the character ten. For example,

  > ![50.png](https://i.sstatic.net/RBsD4.png) = 50, ![60.png](https://i.sstatic.net/LHl5J.png) = 60

  It was not necessary to make a specific rule for constructing `亖`. So I would prefer the "counting strokes" explanation.

  ***For statement 2 & 3***, if there's any oracle scripts carving like ![象形字典四5.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7c8wA.gif), then no doubt it will be the correct answer. However, not only the oracle ![象形字典四5.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7c8wA.gif) has never been found, but also, classical annotations by ancient scholars didn't support such a statement. The entry 四 in *Shuowen* says

  > ![说文四.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/EO7VW.gif)象四分之形。凡四之屬皆从四。(![古文四.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/Ay1Nl.gif))，古文四。亖，[籒文](http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%B1%80%E6%96%87)四。
  >
  > **Like dividing a shape into four pieces**. Characters that related to 四 have the radical 四. is the ancient form of 四. 亖 is the [Zhouwen](http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%B1%80%E6%96%87) glyph of 四.

  *Shuowen*'s viewpoint about the transformation from 亖 to 四 was then further confirmed in *Annotations on Shuowen* by Duan Yucai in Qing Dynasty:

  > > 古文四如此。小篆略改之。
  > >
  > > The ancient form was just like that. Seal script 四 modified it a little.
  >
  > **亖**
  >
  > > 此筭法之二二如四也。二字㒳畫均長、則亖字亦四畫均長。今人作篆多誤。[覲禮“四享”](http://ctext.org/wiki.pl?if=en&chapter=755092)。鄭注曰。四當爲三。書作三四字或皆積畫。字相似。由此誤。聘禮注云“朝貢禮純四只”。鄭志。荅趙商問四當爲三。周禮內宰職注“天子巡守禮制幣丈八尺純四”。鄭志。荅趙商問亦云四當爲三。左傳“是四國者，專足畏也。”劉炫謂四當爲三。皆由古字積畫之故。按說文之例。先籒文。次古文。此恐轉寫誤倒。
  > >
  > > This is a calculation "two and two make four". Because the two strokes in 二 have equal length, the four strokes in 亖 should also have equal length. *覲禮* said "四享", and 鄭玄 commented on that: "The *four* should be *three*. Both writing three and four are all *counting strokes*, 三 and 亖 look alike, so it is misread." Similarly, for "朝貢禮純四只" in *聘禮注*, 鄭玄 said "*four* should be *three*"; "天子巡守禮制幣丈八尺純四" in *周禮內宰職注*, the same, "*four* should be *three*"; "是四國者專足畏也" in *左傳*, 劉炫 said "*four* should be *three*". Thus, these mistakes were all because of the similarity of 三 and 亖: following the convention of *Shuowen*, when copy-writing a book, one should write [Zhouwen](http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%B1%80%E6%96%87) first and then the ancient form, but the mistake would happen when messing up the order.

  In short, Duan Yucai's opinion suggests: "because 三 and 亖 can be easily mistaken, seal script 四 modified a bronze glyph a little to avoid that."

  So, now we can see, both *Annotations on Shuowen* and *Shuowen* didn't support the statement "![象形字典四5.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7c8wA.gif) was the result of combining ![象形字典四3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/XB958.gif) and ![象形字典四4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif)". What's worse, **the statement of** ***Dictionary of Pictograph*** **contradicts the bronze glyphs and ![郘钟四.png](https://i.sstatic.net/KRoR9.png) (on Lü bell)**!

  ***But how about the statements for "oracle 亖 => bronze 四" in Dictionary of Oracle Scripts? Are they more reliable?*** I would say both 丁山 (Ding Shan) and 馬敘倫 (Ma Xulun) had done much more research work on it, though whether they were correct or not has not been confirmed yet, they did provide brilliant opinions on how the transformation happened. And there's no contradiction between their statement and the bronze scripts we have found. Thus, the statement of *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts* for 四 is more reliable.

  > Part of paper *數名古誼* (*The Ancient Meaning of the Chinese Number Names*) by 丁山 (Ding Shan)
  >
  > > [Click to view the scanning copy.](https://i.sstatic.net/i62Jh.png)
  > >
  > > 四之見于卜辭金文者大抵與籀文同，惟郘鐘作![](https://i.sstatic.net/9noxu.gif)，大梁鼎作![](https://i.sstatic.net/iyckt.gif)；秦碣石頌始作![](https://i.sstatic.net/r16Cv.gif)；許君據秦書說![](https://i.sstatic.net/a8ujn.gif)象四分形，則將謂![](https://i.sstatic.net/NSzeV.gif)象五分，![](https://i.sstatic.net/rP0Dw.gif)象六分乎？竊疑積畫爲![](https://i.sstatic.net/DGjCn.gif)者數名之本字；後之作![](https://i.sstatic.net/znUCG.gif)者皆借呬爲之。秦權量刻辭凡云“不一”皆作“![](https://i.sstatic.net/TTCVs.gif)”(MY annotation: 不壹)其摹印“三川尉印”亦作“![](https://i.sstatic.net/uYlPm.gif)”(MY annotation: 叁川)，凡數名之形體簡易者皆代以繁縟之文；許君知一壹殊文，三叁異義，而不知![](https://i.sstatic.net/ISt7o.gif)借爲![](https://i.sstatic.net/DGjCn.gif)者何也。蓋狃于所習而忘古義耳。![](https://i.sstatic.net/X8dAV.gif)从![](https://i.sstatic.net/kSmDw.gif)，象口形，或作![](https://i.sstatic.net/9noxu.gif)![](https://i.sstatic.net/iyckt.gif)者，兼口舌气象之也；其中之八蓋猶![](https://i.sstatic.net/LLqqx.gif)下从八象气下引，![](https://i.sstatic.net/eLs1h.gif)上从八气象越于[亏]；郘鐘八下之一，蓋猶![](https://i.sstatic.net/FSmLa.gif)![](https://i.sstatic.net/ftA7v.gif)之从一以像舌形，气蘊舌上而不能出諸口非呬而何；說文口部“![](https://i.sstatic.net/cjgb6.gif)，東夷謂息曰呬，从口，四聲。詩曰，犬夷呬矣”。“犬夷呬矣”今左傳引作“喙矣”，廣雅“喙，息也”，國語“余病喙矣”，韋注云“喙，短气貌”；以呬義證![](https://i.sstatic.net/r16Cv.gif)形，冥然若合符節，則四呬一字可以斷言。文字孳乳，有因借義習用已久，後人不復知其本義乃妄加偏傍以見之者，若![](https://i.sstatic.net/wlDEf.gif)加一![](https://i.sstatic.net/EX3eA.gif)中以指其爲株榦字，後人習用赤色意而增木其以爲株；叜本象![](https://i.sstatic.net/glJsv.gif)持火室內有所尋也，後人習用尊老意而增手其以爲：雖無損本義，終病其繁複無理。四本从口，而復从口作呬，繩之六書，不又病衍複乎？自造字原則言之，四卽呬之本字，尤信而有徵。蓋自周秦之際借气息之四爲數名之![](https://i.sstatic.net/DGjCn.gif)，別增口四以爲气息字，漢儒習而不察，以爲四卽數名本字；于是正俗別爲異字，通叚輥于一文，四之形義旣荒而“陰陽四分”之說以起；此古誼失傳後儒皆不得其解者二也。
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  > > `四`s seen in oracle inscriptions and bronze scripts were almost the same as [Zhouwen](http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%B1%80%E6%96%87), only specially as ![](https://i.sstatic.net/9noxu.gif) in Lü bell, as ![](https://i.sstatic.net/iyckt.gif) in Big Liang cooking vessel. In *Ode to Jie Stone* in Qin Dynasty, it began to appear as ![](https://i.sstatic.net/r16Cv.gif). Xu Shen (the author of *Shuowen*) said ![](https://i.sstatic.net/a8ujn.gif) was like "a shape divided into four" according to some reference in Qin Dynasty -- but following this opinion, would ![](https://i.sstatic.net/NSzeV.gif) be "divided into five", and ![](https://i.sstatic.net/rP0Dw.gif) be "divided into six"? Thus I think the "counting stokes" character ![](https://i.sstatic.net/DGjCn.gif) would be the original character of the numeral, and later ![](https://i.sstatic.net/znUCG.gif) were all borrowed from `呬`. All `不一`s on the inscriptions on the *Standard Prototype of Weight of Qin Dynasty* were all carved as ![](https://i.sstatic.net/TTCVs.gif) (MY annotation: 不壹), and its imperial seal script `三川尉印` was also carved as ![](https://i.sstatic.net/uYlPm.gif) (MY annotation: 叁川) -- all numerals originally written in a simple shape were replaced by complex characters. Mr. Xu knew 一 and 壹 were different characters, 三 and 叁 had different meanings, but he didn't know why ![](https://i.sstatic.net/ISt7o.gif) was borrowed as ![](https://i.sstatic.net/DGjCn.gif). That would be because he was blocked by what he had learnt and forgot its real ancient meaning. ![](https://i.sstatic.net/X8dAV.gif)'s radical was ![](https://i.sstatic.net/kSmDw.gif), like a mouth, some others written as ![](https://i.sstatic.net/9noxu.gif) or ![](https://i.sstatic.net/iyckt.gif) included the tongue and the breath besides the mouth. The `八` shape was just like the bottom of ![](https://i.sstatic.net/LLqqx.gif) ([只](http://www.zdic.net/z/16/sw/53EA.htm)), which meant "leading breath / air downwards"; or like the top of ![](https://i.sstatic.net/eLs1h.gif), which meant "breath / air went upwards". In Lü bell's ![](https://i.sstatic.net/9noxu.gif), the `一` below `八` was just like ![](https://i.sstatic.net/FSmLa.gif)'s and ![](https://i.sstatic.net/ftA7v.gif)'s `一` representing the tongue: the breath on the tongue that couldn't go out was exactly what 呬 had described. The 口 radical chapter in *Shuowen* said "![](https://i.sstatic.net/cjgb6.gif), the eastern foreigners call breath (息) 呬. Radical 口. Pronounce like 四. [*Classic of Poetry*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_of_Poetry) said `犬夷呬矣`." That "[犬夷](http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%8A%AC%E6%88%8E)呬矣" referenced in [*Zuo Zhuan*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuo_Zhuan) was "喙矣"; and [Guangya](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangya) explained it as "喙, is 息(breath)." [*Guoyu*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guoyu_(book)) said `余病喙矣` (I have difficulty in breathing.) *Annotations on Guoyu* by [Wei Zhao](http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%9F%8B%E6%98%AD) explained it as "喙, the appearance of breathing difficulty". Using the meaning of 呬 to explain ![](https://i.sstatic.net/r16Cv.gif), it coincided quite well, so we could assert that 四 and 呬 are actually one character. With the development of the writing system, some characters had been borrowed to indicate some meaning for a long time, so it was easy for later generations to forget the original meaning of a character and then to add radicals to it unreasonably. For example, 一 was added to ![](https://i.sstatic.net/EX3eA.gif) to mean the trunk of a tree (![](https://i.sstatic.net/wlDEf.gif)), later the character 朱 was usually used to mean "red", so people added the radical 木, making "株" to denote its original meaning; 叜 (search) originally illustrated searching things in a room (宀) with a torch (火) held by a hand (又), and later the character was used to mean "old man", so people added the radical 扌, making "" to denote its original meaning. Though this would not distroy the original meaning, I was dissatisfied with its unreasonable complexity. 四 had already had the radical 口, but redundantly being added 口 to form 呬, even if it met the [six writings](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character_classification), wouldn't it be too complex? According to the rules of making characters, it is well-documented to assert 四 is the original character of 呬. During Zhou Dynasty and Qin Dynasty, 四 was borrowed to be the numeral ![](https://i.sstatic.net/DGjCn.gif), and added 口 making 呬 to denote the original "breath" character. Students in Han Dynasty learnt it but hadn't noticed that, and then they considered it was the original character of four. After that, variants became more and more, the original meaning of 四 was forgotten and meanwhile the opinion "Yin-Yang divided into four" was developing.
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  > Part of paper *中國文字之源流與研究方法之新傾向* (*New Trend of Research Methods of the Etymology of Chinese Characters*) by 馬敘倫 (Ma Xulun)
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  > > 說文裏四字是篆文，古文寫作![](https://i.sstatic.net/Lii3J.gif)，籀文寫作![](https://i.sstatic.net/QGNRk.gif)，其實四![](https://i.sstatic.net/QGNRk.gif)是兩個不同意思的字。四字曹籀以爲是泗的初文，象鼻子裏有涕。其實四字的確從鼻，鼻字的初文是自和白。（不是黑白的白。）說文疐字下說：“叀者，如叀牛之鼻。”（今本牛誤做馬。）王筠說：“叀中之![](https://i.sstatic.net/a4hue.gif)，乃牛鼻也。”我看了郘鐘裏的![](https://i.sstatic.net/nHSmJ.gif)字，大梁鼎裏的![](https://i.sstatic.net/hNpr5.gif)字，相信這話不錯。![](https://i.sstatic.net/nHSmJ.gif)字從白，![](https://i.sstatic.net/hNpr5.gif)字從自，古文經傳裏寫作![](https://i.sstatic.net/Lii3J.gif)，是從![](https://i.sstatic.net/AJQL0.gif)，![](https://i.sstatic.net/AJQL0.gif)也是鼻字，甲文有的。八是四所從得聲的，所以八四兩個字收音都在脂類。至於![](https://i.sstatic.net/QGNRk.gif)字卻是數目的四字。羅振玉對於古文籀文還沒有弄得明白，也不曉得四![](https://i.sstatic.net/QGNRk.gif)兩個不同意思的字，所以他以為![](https://i.sstatic.net/Lii3J.gif)是“晚周文字，錢先生所謂古文之別字。”（這是錢大昕的話，可是前人已經糾正過他的了。）
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  > > 四 in *Shuowen* is written in the seal script, its ancient form is ![](https://i.sstatic.net/Lii3J.gif), and Zhouwen is ![](https://i.sstatic.net/QGNRk.gif). In fact, 四 and ![](https://i.sstatic.net/QGNRk.gif) are two characters with different meanings. Cao Zhou considered 四 was the origin of 泗, which looked like having snot in the nose. Actually, 四's meaning comes from nose (鼻), the origin of 鼻 is 自 or 白. (Here 白 doesn't mean *white*). The entry of 疐 in *Shuowen* says: "叀 is like the nose ring on an ox." (New versions of *Shuowen* mistakes 牛(ox) for 馬(horse).) Wang Jun said: "The ![](https://i.sstatic.net/a4hue.gif) part in the character 叀 is just the ox nose." When I saw Lü Bell's ![](https://i.sstatic.net/nHSmJ.gif), and Big Liang cooking vessel's ![](https://i.sstatic.net/hNpr5.gif), I believed it was true. ![](https://i.sstatic.net/nHSmJ.gif) comes from 白, ![](https://i.sstatic.net/hNpr5.gif) comes from 自. In canons written with ancient form characters, it is written as ![](https://i.sstatic.net/Lii3J.gif), which comes from ![](https://i.sstatic.net/AJQL0.gif) -- ![](https://i.sstatic.net/AJQL0.gif) also means nose, which can be found in oracle scripts. 八 is where 四 comes from, so when 八 and 四 are indexed by a dictionary, both are kept in the 脂 category (MY annotation: modern dictionaries don't adopt that method, if you are interested in how it was carried out in ancient times, you can read older dictionaries like *廣韻 Guangyun*). As for ![](https://i.sstatic.net/QGNRk.gif) that meant numeral four, Luo Zhenyu neither understood the difference between "the ancient form" and "Zhouwen", nor knew 四 and ![](https://i.sstatic.net/QGNRk.gif) were two different characters. So he mistook ![](https://i.sstatic.net/Lii3J.gif) for "character in late Zhou Dynasty, which Mr. Qian considered a wrongly written character of an ancient form." (This was what Qian Daxin said, but there had been somebody correcting him before.)


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### Answer by username_0 on 2013-10-15. Score: 10

## Etymology of 五

* ### [Explanation of 五 in 象形字典 (*Dictionary of Pictographs*)](http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3603)

  > “五”也是特殊指事字，“五”的甲骨文字形![象形字典五1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/f7G4L.gif)用一个叉号寓意天、地万物的交汇，以表示大于“四”的正整数。有的甲骨文![象形字典五2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/51Mt5.gif)在字形![象形字典五1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/f7G4L.gif)（万物交汇）基础上加![象形字典五3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif)（天地之间），造字本义：金、木、水、火、土等宇宙的构成要素，代表天地间万物构成元素的极限数，大于四，小于六。在造字时期的远古时代，一，二，三，四，五，六，七，八，九，十，都曾是极限数。
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  > 五 is also a special self-explanatory character. Its oracle glyph uses a cross ![象形字典五1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/f7G4L.gif) to imply "meeting of everything between the sky and the earth", indicating a number larger than four. Some oracle ![象形字典五2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/51Mt5.gif) adds ![象形字典五3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/7Oucj.gif) (between the sky and the earth) to the basic ![象形字典五1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/f7G4L.gif) (meeting of everything). The original idea of character construction: ancient Chinese people thought 金 (metal), 木 (wood), 水 (water), 火 (fire), and 土 (earth) were the elements of the universe, so the number of the elements was used to imply an extreme, which was larger than four and less than six. In the period of the construction of oracle scripts, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, and ten, all had been once used as an "extreme" number.
* ### Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (*Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*)

  # 五

  > ![甲骨文字典：五.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/mG51y.gif)
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  > 【解字】甲骨文子午之午作![甲骨文字典五1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/uT6II.gif)，本以束絲之交午形，會意為啎，借為地支之午。束絲表示交午之全形，具體之交午在束絲中部之二斜畫相交作![甲骨文字典五2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/m8CaW.gif)形，故甲骨文借用為數詞之五，或啎逆之啎。又為明確表示交午之意，更于束絲之兩環形中部截除上下兩段，只保留中段，即由![甲骨文字典五3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/ZNcST.gif)形而為![甲骨文字典五4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/9tpzx.gif)形，或更於之交貫部位加指事符號![甲骨文字典五5.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/XQy1N.gif)而作![甲骨文字典五6.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/izoGC.gif)，此二字形於卜辭中專作數詞之用。
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  > 【釋義】
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  > 1. 啎，相冓（遘）也，祭名。
  > 2. 數詞。
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  > **[Character Forming]** In oracle scripts, 午 in 子午 (meridian) was written as ![甲骨文字典五1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/uT6II.gif). Its original meaning was "the shape of crossing two bunches of silk threads". And it was an ideogram for 啎 (meet), then borrowed by 午 in [earthly branches](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthly_Branches). "Crossing two bunches of silk threads" showed the whole image, but the actual "crossing / meeting" was located in the middle by two slant strokes as ![甲骨文字典五2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/m8CaW.gif) shape. Thus in oracle scripts, it was used as a phonetic loan character for "the numeral 五" or "啎 (meet)". To clearly indicate the "crossing / meeting" meaning, the head and the bottom were then cut off, i.e. the shape changed from ![甲骨文字典五3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/ZNcST.gif) to ![甲骨文字典五4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/9tpzx.gif); and an indicating symbol ![甲骨文字典五5.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/XQy1N.gif) could be even also added to the exact point where "crossing" happened, so that the glyph became ![甲骨文字典五6.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/izoGC.gif). These two glyphs were specifically used as the numeral in oracle inscriptions.
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  > **[Meaning]**
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  > 1. 啎, meet, name for the sacrifice.
  > 2. Numeral five.
* ### Rubbings

  No. 029733. `今旬五雨` (During this period of ten days, it has rained five times).

  > ![五：029733.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/wHI1i.gif)

  From *殷契粹编* written by Guo Moruo, No. 1149: `癸巳卜王其令五族戍朕伐[??]`.

  > ![五：郭沫若殷契粹编1149.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/IU7JD.gif)

  From *殷契佚存* written by Shang Chengzuo, No. 224: `五鹿隻四鹿隻`.

  > ![五：商承祚殷契佚存.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/myY1z.gif)
* ### Criticism on "[Explanation of 五 in 象形字典 (*Dictionary of Pictographs*)](http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3603)"

  There is one point that the two dictionaries agree, "the glyph ![甲骨文字典五4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/9tpzx.gif) has a meaning of *crossing / meeting*", however, they explain it in very different ways.

  The main opinion of *Dictionary of Pictographs*, though being not explicitly stated, is

  > Crossing between the sky and the earth => Element of everything => [五行 (Wu Xing)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_Xing) => **Five**.

  However, the earliest record of Wu Xing found today can only date from the end of Western Zhou Dynasty (See [Chinese wikipedia](http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BA%94%E8%A1%8C)). Similar to the entry of 一/二/三, it was not so possible for ancient Chinese people to develop these philosophy ideas during the period of creating the writing system.

  *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts* says it is a phonetic loan character. That is more reliable, because there are some cases that ![甲骨文字典五2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/m8CaW.gif) doesn't mean ***five*** but just the name of the sacrifice (see 【释义】1. / **[Meaning]1.**).

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: +1 since it doesn't have 5 upvotes yet. No vote for the 四 answer because it already has 4 upvotes. Just kidding:)  
> **username_0**: @NS.X. Thanks. But it is really difficult for `千` to have one thousand +1s, so never mind XD  

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### Answer by username_0 on 2013-10-17. Score: 7

## Etymology of 六

* ### [Explanation of 六 in 象形字典 (*Dictionary of Pictographs*)](http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3604)

  > “六”是象形字，甲骨文![象形字典六1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/79oVV.gif)像房屋的外形框架![象形字典六2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/Kb7nb.gif)，有立墙、斜顶，表示房屋的空间维度：四壁加屋顶地板两面。有的甲骨文![象形字典六3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/eZqo7.gif)再突出了屋脊，像屋顶的烟囱。造字本义：庐，由四面墙，以及屋顶、地面两面构成的房屋。金文![象形字典六4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/8GyK9.gif)承续甲骨文字形。有的金文![象形字典六5.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/FgKkk.gif)变形了墙壁形象。篆文![象形字典六6.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/mQEXH.gif)则将金文的屋顶形象![象形字典六7.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/UDpSb.gif)变形成费解的![象形字典六8.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/hOsnV.gif) 。隶书![象形字典六9.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/mXDxP.gif)继续变形屋顶形象。“六”作为单纯数字之后，后人再加“盧”（器皿中装着兽肉）另造“廬”代替，表示生活栖息的空间。
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  > 六 was a pictographic character. Its oracle glyph ![象形字典六1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/79oVV.gif) looked like the frame of a cottage ![象形字典六2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/Kb7nb.gif). There were walls and a slant roof, indicating the spacial dimension of the cottage: four walls plus one roof and one floor. Some oracle glyph ![象形字典六3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/eZqo7.gif) stuck a stroke in the ridge, and it looked like a chimney. The original idea of character construction: 庐 (cottage) made by four walls, a roof and a floor. Bronze glyph ![象形字典六4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/8GyK9.gif) was derived from the oracle glyph. Some bronze glyph ![象形字典六5.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/FgKkk.gif) deformed the shape of the walls. Seal glyph ![象形字典六6.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/mQEXH.gif) further deformed the roof ![象形字典六7.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/UDpSb.gif) in bronze glyphs to an obscure shape ![象形字典六8.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/hOsnV.gif). Clerical scripts ![象形字典六9.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/mXDxP.gif) continued the deformation of the roof. After 六 being used only as a numeral, ancient Chinese people added 盧 (container with meat) and made a new character 廬 to represent the space for living.
* ### Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (*Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*)

  # 六

  > ![甲骨文字典：六.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/lgBdU.gif)
  >
  > 【解字】![甲骨文字典六1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif)象兩壁架有一極兩宇之棚舍正視形，此為田野中臨時寄居之處，其結構簡易，暴露於野，即古之所謂廬。《說文-广部》：“廬，寄也。秋冬去，春夏居。”廬六古音近，故![甲骨文字典六1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif)得借為數詞六。而作![甲骨文字典六2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/9Hk0v.gif)![甲骨文字典六3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/3mabV.gif)形者乃象圓形或方形圍牆上架以屋頂，東西南北四方全為屋頂所覆，與![甲骨文字典六1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif)之為兩柱屋，即左右兩壁上架棚，前後無牆壁遮阻之形有別。![甲骨文字典六2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/9Hk0v.gif)![甲骨文字典六3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/3mabV.gif)實為宀之初文。《說文》：“宀，交覆深屋也。”![甲骨文字典六2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/9Hk0v.gif)![甲骨文字典六3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/3mabV.gif)與![甲骨文字典六1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif)形近，故卜辭皆借為數目字六。
  >
  > **[Character Forming]** ![甲骨文字典六1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif) looked like the front view of a cottage building with two roof sides and one roof beam on two walls. It was a temporary place for living on the field, had a simple structure, and kept open on the field, i.e. 廬 (cottage / hut). Radical 广 chapter in *Shuowen* said: "廬, temporary place for living, not for autumn and winter but only for spring and summer." The ancient pronunciations of 廬(cottage) and 六(six) were similar, so ![甲骨文字典六1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif) was borrowed as the numeral six. Some glyphs ![甲骨文字典六2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/9Hk0v.gif)![甲骨文字典六3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/3mabV.gif) were the shape of building a roof on a round or a square fence -- the roof covered all directions -- it was different from ![甲骨文字典六1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif), which had only two uprights (two walls) and a roof but lacked walls in the front and the back side. ![甲骨文字典六2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/9Hk0v.gif)![甲骨文字典六3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/3mabV.gif) were actually the original glyph of 宀. *Shuowen* said "宀, house with all directions covered." Because ![甲骨文字典六2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/9Hk0v.gif)![甲骨文字典六3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/3mabV.gif) were similar to ![甲骨文字典六1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif), oracle inscriptions borrowed all of them as the numeral six.
* ### Rubbings

  No. 032320. [`上甲`](http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%8A%E7%94%B2%E5%BE%AE)`燎六羊...其有...丑` (Shangjia had roasted six goats ... [and some unrelated characters 其有...丑]).

  > ![六：032320.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/l1d2N.gif)

  No. 001374. [`癸酉`](http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%99%B8%E9%85%89)`卜, 侑于(之)成, 六月` (Year of [Guiyou](http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%99%B8%E9%85%89), divine to predict. Sacrifice in Cheng. Sixth Month.)

  > ![六：001374癸酉卜，侑于成，之，六月.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/yiWZC.gif)
* ### Criticism on "[Explanation of 六 in 象形字典 (*Dictionary of Pictographs*)](http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3604)"

  Both the dictionaries consider the oracle six was the image of 廬 (cottage / hut). The major distinction is "why it meant six".

  + *Dictionary of Pictographs*: the hut had six directions, front, back, left, right, up (roof), and down (floor), so the image stood for six.
  + *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*: again, the oracle glyph of six is considered as a phonetic loan character. Though we might never know why the numeral six was pronounce in that way, but 六 (as the image of hut) sounded like the numeral six in the period of making characters, thus it was used to indicate the numeral six.

  The "phonetic loan character" opinion actually has some variants, e.g. Ding Shan said "古皆借入为六" (ancient Chinese borrowed `入` to indicate six) in *数名古谊*. This is quite reasonable, because an oracle glyph of **[`入`](http://images.gg-art.com/dictionary/oracledict.php?page=578)** is **`∧`**, which is exactly the same to some oracle inscription *six* (and they also sounded similar). But personally I believe the 廬 (hut) opinion is more convincing, because in oracle bones found today, the number of appearances of ![甲骨文字典六1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif) is greater than that of **`∧`**. Besides, ![甲骨文字典六1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/vg5C1.gif) was very similar to the top of the oracle glyph [高](http://images.gg-art.com/dictionary/oracledict.php?page=590). This would be a circumstantial evidence. Anyway, whichever "phonetic loan character" opinion is easy to be self-consistent.

  How about the "six directions" opinion? Yes it was also possible to be true. But the most serious problem is, like rubbing No. 001374 above, the oracle glyph six could be like **`∧`**. Archaeologists have found that in the early period of Shang Dynasty, people lived in caves. The **`∧`** would just mean some coverings as the shape of the roof, there wasn't any "wall" like the modern concept. So, how could ancient Chinese people count directions to six?


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### Answer by username_0 on 2013-12-29. Score: 6

## Etymology of 十, 廿(niàn), 卅(sà), 卌(xì)

* ### Explanation in 象形字典 (*Dictionary of Pictographs*)

  # [十 (ten)](http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3608)

  > “十”从金文开始成为指事字。“十”的甲骨文![[1]jia(1)(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/ztDnG.gif)是象形字，像一根用于纪事的垂悬的绳子。古人用结绳纪事、计数，一根绳子代表一个纪事主题，代表全数。造字本义：一根用来打结纪事的绳子，代表满数、全数。金文![[2]jin(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/3XFxg.gif)承续甲骨文字形。有的金文![[2]jin(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/qJamQ.gif)在绳上加圆点指事符号![[2]jin(2)jian(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/mEHWw.gif)，表示结绳纪事。有的金文![[2]jin(3).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/KOHZp.gif)误将圆点![[2]jin(2)jian(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/mEHWw.gif)（绳结）写成短横![[2]jin(3)jian(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/FEPNk.gif)。篆文![[4]zhuan(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/iPCF4.gif)承续金文字形![[2]jin(3).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/KOHZp.gif)。
  >
  > 十 had become a [simple ideograph character](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character#Simple_ideograms) since he bronze script age. Its oracle glyph ![[1]jia(1)(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/ztDnG.gif) is a [pictograph character](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character#Pictograms), and looks like a hanged rope for recording events. Ancient people tied knots on a rope to keep a record of events or numbers. One rope might stand for a subject, meaning "all". The original idea of character construction: one rope with knots for recording events, stands for the "whole number". The bronze glyph ![[2]jin(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/3XFxg.gif) inherits the oracle glyph, and some of them ![[2]jin(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/qJamQ.gif) was added a round point ![[2]jin(2)jian(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/mEHWw.gif) as an indicative symbol to mean "tying knots to record"; while some ![[2]jin(3).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/KOHZp.gif) mistook the round point ![[2]jin(2)jian(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/mEHWw.gif) (knot) for a short bar ![[2]jin(3)jian(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/FEPNk.gif). Its seal glyph ![[4]zhuan(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/iPCF4.gif) inherits its bronze glyph ![[2]jin(3).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/KOHZp.gif).

  # [廿 (twenty)](http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3609)

  > 廿，甲骨文![11jia00.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/vwM97.gif)像两根纪事的绳子，一根绳子![[2]jin(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/qJamQ.gif)代表数目“十”，两根绳子![[2]jin(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/qJamQ.gif)、![[2]jin(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/qJamQ.gif)代表两个“十”。造字本义：二十，十的双倍。金文![[2]jin(1) (1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/MoMCj.gif)将两根有绳结的绳子相连接。有的金文![[2]jin(2) (1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/jJNJG.gif)将绳结连成横线。篆文![[4]zhuan(1) (1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/DIOeQ.gif)承续金文字形![[2]jin(2) (1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/jJNJG.gif)。
  >
  > 廿's oracle glyph ![11jia00.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/vwM97.gif) looks like two ropes, one of which stands for the numeral ten, so two ropes ![[2]jin(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/qJamQ.gif) and ![[2]jin(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/qJamQ.gif) make twenty. The original idea of character construction: twenty is double ten. The bronze glyph ![[2]jin(1) (1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/MoMCj.gif) shows two ropes with knots are tied together. Some bronze glyph ![[2]jin(2) (1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/jJNJG.gif) replaces the knot with a bar. The seal glyph ![[4]zhuan(1) (1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/DIOeQ.gif) inherits the bronze glyph ![[2]jin(2) (1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/jJNJG.gif).
* ### Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (*Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*)

  # 十 (ten)

  > ![甲骨文字典十.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/MAcqS.gif)
  >
  > 【解字】丨為古代之算籌，竪置一籌表示數量十，以與橫置之算籌一區別，卜辭中十之五倍以上數字皆置倍數於十之下合書，如五十作![五十](https://i.sstatic.net/RBsD4.png)，六十作![六十](https://i.sstatic.net/LHl5J.png)等。
  >
  > **[Character Forming]** 丨 is an ancient counting rod. Placing it vertically means the numeral ten, so it can be different from the numeral one that is placed horizontally. In oracle inscriptions, numbers that are larger than fifty are written as "joining the multiple under ten 丨". For example, fifty is written as ![五十](https://i.sstatic.net/RBsD4.png), sixty is written as ![六十](https://i.sstatic.net/LHl5J.png).

  # 廿 (twenty)

  > ![甲骨文字典廿.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/qibSg.gif)
  >
  > 【解字】并連兩枚竪直之算籌以表示二十之數。《說文》：「廿，二十并也。」周金文作![廿1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/J3ldl.gif)（宰椃角），![廿2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/0DmwP.gif)（戊辰簋），與甲骨文同，後漸譌![廿3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/AIWfN.gif)（伊簋），![廿4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/2DUxd.gif)（曾姬無卹壺），![廿5.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/bHr9y.gif)即為《說文》篆文所本。
  >
  > **[Character Forming]** Placing two vertical counting rods side by side means the numeral twenty. *Shuowen* says: "廿 is two 十s placing abreast." In Zhou Dynasty, the bronze scripts were written as ![廿1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/J3ldl.gif) (on Zaihao horn), ![廿2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/0DmwP.gif) (on Wuchen vessel), the same as oracle scripts. After that, mistakenly, it was gradually written as ![廿3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/AIWfN.gif) (on Yi vessel), ![廿4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/2DUxd.gif) on (Princess Zeng No Worries kettle). So the glyph ![廿5.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/bHr9y.gif) is the origin of the seal script of *Shuowen*.

  # 卅 (thirty)

  > ![甲骨文字典卅.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/zdEUE.gif)
  >
  > 【解字】并連三枚竪直之算籌以表示三十之數。《說文》：「![卅1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/4h5X2.gif)，三十并也。」金文作![卅2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/SOuQI.gif)（昌鼎），與甲骨文同。
  >
  > **[Character Forming]** Placing three vertical counting rods side by side means the numeral thirty. *Shuowen* says: "![卅1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/4h5X2.gif) is three 十s placing abreast." The bronze script is written as ![卅2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/SOuQI.gif) (on Chang cooking vessel), the same as the oracle scripts.

  # 卌 (forty)

  > ![甲骨文字典卌.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/FISQ9.gif)
  >
  > 【解字】并連四枚竪直之算籌以表示四十之數，《說文》所無，見於《廣韻》。漢孔龢碑有之，作![卌1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/nlTv1.gif)。
  >
  > **[Character Forming]** Placing four vertical counting rods side by side means the numeral forty. Not found in *Shuowen* but in *Guangyun*. In Han Dynasty, there was one on Konghe Stone Tablet, written as ![卌1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/nlTv1.gif).
* ### Rubbings

  No. 10103: 年于[目口]...受年 **十** 一月...不其受年...

  > ![](https://i.sstatic.net/cdQqw.gif)

  No. 17489: 婦井示 **二十(廿)**

  > ![](https://i.sstatic.net/CGyOB.gif)

  No. 1513: 甲申卜乙酉侑祖乙三[宀羊][冊口] **三十(卅)** 牛

  > ![](https://i.sstatic.net/m9zFB.gif)

  No. 33371: 丙戌卜丁亥王陷[凶十]允[凶十]三百又 **四十** 八

  > ![](https://i.sstatic.net/GAhCV.gif)

  No. 11055: **五十** 牛

  > ![](https://i.sstatic.net/e7Cf1.gif)

  No. 11054: **六十** 牛

  > ![](https://i.sstatic.net/AiUhE.gif)

  No. 20723: 鹿 **七十** 一，豕四十一，麑百

  > ![](https://i.sstatic.net/bctwz.gif)

  No. 27512: 妣戊于翌日 **七十** 牛

  > ![](https://i.sstatic.net/Gzx1b.gif)

  No. 37471: 貞王田于雞往來亡災，弘吉茲御獲狐 **八十** 又六

  > ![](https://i.sstatic.net/C6XMp.gif)

  No. 10407: ... **九十** 又九 ...

  > ![](https://i.sstatic.net/cxkJF.gif)
* ### Criticism

  Besides the two explanations in these two dictionaries, there are also some other conjectures. For example, Guo Moruo said (in *古文字诂林* volume 2):

  > 中国以一掌为十，故金文十字（像掌），…一竖而鼓其腹，亦象形也。 A palm in China means ten, so the bronze glyph (like a palm) ... one vertical stroke fat in abdomen, just a pictograph.

  Personally I think they all make sense, that is to say, they don't contradict current archaeological findings. So before getting further evidence, they are all acceptable.


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### Answer by username_0 on 2013-12-25. Score: 6

## Etymology of 七

* ### [Explanation of 七 in 象形字典 (*Dictionary of Pictographs*)](http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3605)

  > “七”是特殊指事字，甲骨文![[1]jia(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/U2APu.gif)写作“十”。一横代表全部、一切；一横加一竖，表示对全体进行切分。金文![[2]jin(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/3TpeH.gif)承续甲骨文字形。有的金文![[2]jin(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/jRsx8.gif)为了区别于“十”，将竖笔转折。造字本义：古人认为需要切分的极限数，即比六更大的数，六与八之间的正整数。篆文字形![[4]zhuan(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/CIxke.gif)基本承续晚期金文字形。在发明十进制之前，一，二，三，四，五，六，七，八，九，都曾是古人认识中的极限数字：一，混沌宇宙，代表全部；二，天地或乾坤或阴阳，代表一切；三，天、地、人，也代表一切；四，超越“三”的数，“二”的两倍，也是极数；五，天地交汇，也代表一切，中国珠算采用五进制；六，房屋的四壁及顶和底，也代表宇宙空间的一切；七，需要切分的极限数，也代表一切；八，分，与“七”相同，表示需要细分的极限数；九，用手极力地抓，表示数多至极，中国珠算亦采用九进制。当“七”的“切分”本义消失后，篆文再加“刀”另造“切”代替。
  >
  > 七 is a special self-explanatory character. Its oracle script is written as ![[1]jia(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/U2APu.gif), just like the modern Chinese glyph of the numeral **ten** (十). One horizontal stroke stands for whole/all, and plus one vertical stroke, the combination means "dividing the whole". Bronze script ![[2]jin(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/3TpeH.gif) inherits its oracle glyph, and some of them are written as ![[2]jin(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/jRsx8.gif) for clearly distinguishing it from the numeral ten (十) by bending the vertical stroke. The original idea of character construction: ancient Chinese people thought there should be a divided "extreme number" between six and eight. Seal glyph ![[4]zhuan(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/CIxke.gif) basically inherited its late bronze glyph. Before the decimal system being invented, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, and nine, had been once considered as "extreme numbers" in ancient Chinese people's view: **one**, "chaos universe", stood for the whole; **two**, "the heaven and the earth", or "*yin* and *yang*", stood for everything; **three**, "the heaven, the earth, and the human", also stood for everything; **four**, larger than three, double two, thus was also an "extreme number"; **five**, "intersection of the heaven and the earth", also meant everything (the Chinese abacus adopted the quinary system); **six**, "four walls and one roof and one floor of a house", stood for everything in the universe; **seven**, "the extreme number that needed segmentation", again, stood for everything; **eight**, "dividing", the same as seven, stood for the extreme number that needed subdivision; **nine**, "trying hard to grab things by hand", suggested the number is very large (the Chinese abacus also adopted the novenary system). When the original meaning of "dividing" in 七 disappeared, the seal script made the character 切 (cut, divide) by adding 刀 (knife) to it.
  >
  > **My Annotation**:
  >
  > 1. The explanation of the "extreme number" here appears to be ill-logical and far-fetched. On the one hand, I haven't seen any archaeological findings or ancient literature supporting that claim. On the other hand, as basic numerals, 1~9 were very probably invented at the same time, how could ancient Chinese people consider they are all "extreme numbers"?
  > 2. The claim "the Chinese abacus adopted the quinary or novenary system" is wrong. It should be **decimal system**, or **hexadecimal system** (rarely seen now). See the [Chinese Wikipedia page](http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%AE%97%E7%9B%98) and [English Wikipedia page](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abacus#Chinese) for details. What's more important, the abacus was invented after characters, so it is an unrelated topic in the explanation.
* ### Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (*Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*)

  # 七

  > ![甲骨文字典7.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/QAeeh.gif)
  >
  > 【解字】於橫畫中加一小竪，會切斷橫畫之意，丁山謂![甲骨文字典7-1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/657eE.gif)本象當中切斷形，自借為七數專名，不得不加刀于七以為切斷專字（《數名古誼》）。按其說可從。甲骨文七字橫畫較長，後因十字由![甲骨文字典7-2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/6RL2t.gif)![甲骨文字典7-3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/cF6ZZ.gif)漸譌為![甲骨文字典7-4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/3b3Bz.gif)，![甲骨文字典7-1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/657eE.gif)![甲骨文字典7-4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/3b3Bz.gif)二形易溷，篆文七字乃彎曲竪畫而作![甲骨文字典7-5.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/Zj2RQ.gif)以與十區別。
  >
  > **[Character Forming]** Adding a small vertical stroke on the horizontal stroke, this [associative compound](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character_classification#Compound_ideographs) character meant "cutting off the horizontal stroke". Ding Shan said in his paper *數名古誼*: "![甲骨文字典7-1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/657eE.gif) was originally a pictogram meaning cutting off in the middle. When it was borrowed to mean seven, a new character for the meaning *cutting off* had to be invented by adding 刀 (knife)." His view appears to be true. In oracle scripts, the horizontal stroke of seven was quite long, however, because later the numeral ten ![甲骨文字典7-2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/6RL2t.gif) or ![甲骨文字典7-3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/cF6ZZ.gif) was gradually mistakenly written like ![甲骨文字典7-4.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/3b3Bz.gif), the seal script seven then bent the vertical stroke as ![甲骨文字典7-5.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/Zj2RQ.gif) to be distinguished from ten (十).
* ### Rubbings

  No. 12606.

  > + ***(Upper part)*** 丙戌卜貞今夕亡七月. Year of [Bingxu](http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%99%E6%88%8C), devine to predict, showing it has no  tonight, the seventh month.
  > + ***(Lower part)*** 貞今夕不雨七月. Show it won't rain tonight, the seventh month.
  >
  > ![No.12606-丙戌卜貞今夕亡jiu七月.貞今夕不雨七月.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/a4swc.gif)
* ### Criticism on "[Explanation of 七 in 象形字典 (*Dictionary of Pictographs*)](http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3605)"

  Both the dictionaries agree on the original meaning of the oracle glyph seven ![甲骨文字典7-1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/657eE.gif) being *cutting off*. However, for the question **why it stands for seven**, they explain it in different ways:

  + *Dictionary of Pictographs*: it is an extreme number, the *cutting* meaning is embodied in "cutting between six and eight".
  + *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*: again, the oracle glyph of seven is considered as a phonetic loan character.

  As mentioned above, Dictionary of Pictographs considering all integers from one to nine as extreme numbers is quite illogical and far-fetched. But **how about the "phonetic loan character" explanation?** Yes, it looks like a free riding -- it just explains *how* it came but bypasses the question *why* it came. Anyway, maybe, naming a thing (including numerals, of course) didn't have to have a concrete reason in the very early ancient times.


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### Answer by username_0 on 2013-12-30. Score: 5

## Etymology of 百

* ### [Explanation of 百 in 象形字典 (*Dictionary of Pictographs*)](http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3611)

  > ![[1]jia(1)jian(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/11bSK.gif)像是在舌头![[1]jia(1)jian(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/qmIGV.gif)上再画一个舌尖![[1]jia(1)jian(3).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/e0LK7.gif)，表示不断鼓舌说话。百，甲骨文![[1]jia(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/TT9Km.gif)在（不断鼓舌说话）上方加一横指事符号\*\*`一`\*\*，造字本义：说不完道不尽。有的甲骨文![[1]jia(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/n3VIP.gif)将![[1]jia(1)jian(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/11bSK.gif)写成![[1]jia(2)jian(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/Q1pp3.gif)，像舌头![[1]jia(1)jian(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/qmIGV.gif)伸在嘴巴![[1]jia(2)jian(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/jGAPC.gif)之外，表示张口鼓舌，力图说明。金文![[2]jin(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/Qs0Fa.gif)、![[2]jin(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/dv4au.gif)、篆文![[4]zhuan(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/J578e.gif)承续甲骨文字形。隶书![[5]li(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/MEQmK.gif)有所变形。
  >
  > ![[1]jia(1)jian(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/11bSK.gif) looks like drawing the tip ![[1]jia(1)jian(3).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/e0LK7.gif) besides the tongue, it means "endlessly talking with the tongue". The oracle glyph ![[1]jia(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/TT9Km.gif) puts an indicative symbol **`一`** above it. The original idea of character construction: endlessly talking. Some oracle glyph ![[1]jia(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/n3VIP.gif) writes ![[1]jia(1)jian(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/11bSK.gif) as ![[1]jia(2)jian(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/Q1pp3.gif), looking like the tongue ![[1]jia(1)jian(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/qmIGV.gif) is put out of the mouth ![[1]jia(2)jian(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/jGAPC.gif). It would mean "trying hard to illustrate something". Bronze glyphs ![[2]jin(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/Qs0Fa.gif), ![[2]jin(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/dv4au.gif), and seal glyph ![[4]zhuan(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/J578e.gif) inherit its oracle glyph. The clerical glyph ![[5]li(2).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/MEQmK.gif) changes a little.
* ### Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (*Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*)

  # 百

  > ![甲骨文字典百.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/GbhCG.gif)
  >
  > 【解字】從一从![甲骨文字典百1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/mgRWp.gif)（白），![甲骨文字典百1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/mgRWp.gif)為古容器，復加指事符号\*\*`∧`\*\*，遂為表示數目之百。《說文》：「百，十十也，从一白。」
  >
  > **[Character Forming]** Its radical is 一 or ![甲骨文字典百1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/mgRWp.gif) (白). ![甲骨文字典百1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/mgRWp.gif) is the ancient container, adding the indicative symbol **`∧`**, it becomes the numeral *hundred*. *Shuowen*: "百, ten times ten, radical 一 or 白."
* ### Rubbings

  No. 50: 百

  > ![No. 50.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/Jm5m0.gif)
* ### Criticism

  Both explanations can justify themselves. So both are possible to be true.


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### Answer by username_0 on 2013-12-26. Score: 5

## Etymology of 八

* ### [Explanation of 八 in 象形字典 (*Dictionary of Pictographs*)](http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3606)

  > “八”是特殊指事字，甲骨文![[1]jia(1) (1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/3bwVl.gif)用相背的两条弧线指事符号，表示物体被分离为两部分。造字本义：切分。金文![[2]jin(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/k8k0V.gif)、篆文![[4]zhuan(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/NqDQv.gif)承续甲骨文字形。楷书![[6]kai(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/WcaGn.gif)承续隶书字形，写成一撇一捺。当“八”的“切分”本义消失后，篆文再加“刀”另造“分”代替。古人认为“八”是极限数，曰：“七乱八糟”。在发明十进制之前，一，二，三，四，五，六，七，八，九，都曾是古人认识中的极限数字。
  >
  > 八 is a special self-explanatory character. The oracle script ![[1]jia(1) (1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/3bwVl.gif) uses two detached arc as the [simple ideogram](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character#Simple_ideograms) symbol, representing an object is divided into two parts. The original idea of character construction: dividing. Bronze script ![[2]jin(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/k8k0V.gif) and seal script ![[4]zhuan(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/NqDQv.gif) inherit its oracle glyph. Regular script ![[6]kai(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/WcaGn.gif) inherits the clerical glyph, writing it as a left-falling stroke and a right-falling stroke. When the original meaning of "dividing" in 八 disappeared, the seal script made the character 分 (divide) by adding 刀 (knife) to it. Ancient Chinese people thought eight was an extreme number, so there was an idiom "七乱八糟". Before the invention of the decimal system, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, and nine, were all extreme numbers in the view of ancient Chinese people.
  >
  > **My Annotation**:
  >
  > 1. The part being struck out is the "extreme number" explanation, which appears to be illogical and far-fetched. For details, see ***Explanation of 七 in 象形字典 (Dictionary of Pictographs)*** and ***My Annotation*** in the entry [Etymology of 七](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5421/2816).
  > 2. The motive of putting the idiom "七乱八糟" ("乱七八糟", more commonly) in the explanation is unclear. It hasn't offered any support to the "extreme number" claim. The etymology of this idiom was once guessed as: 七乱 originated from the "Rebellion of the Seven States" in Western Han Dynasty; 八糟 originated from the "Upheaval of the Eight Princes" during the Western Jin Dynasty. Although this etymology of the idiom is highly doubted by a famous historical scholar Jin Wenming in [his paper](http://www.cqvip.com/qk/81202x/200607/22105894.html), anyhow, the idiom is hardly related to "extreme numbers".
* ### Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (*Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*)

  # 八

  > ![甲骨文字典8.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/RNvBY.gif)
  >
  > 【解字】《說文》：“八，別也，象分別相背之形。”甲骨文乃以二畫相背，分向張開，以表示分別之義。卜辭中借用為紀數之詞。
  >
  > **[Character Forming]** As said in *Shouwen*, "八, ***being parted / leaving each other***, is a [pictograph](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character#Pictograms) showing being parted in different directions." The oracle glyph used two parted strokes in different directions to mean being parted. Then oracle inscriptions borrowed it to mean the numeral eight.
* ### Rubbings

  No. 1014. [己](http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%B7%B1_(%E5%A4%A9%E5%B9%B2))...貞(divine to predict)...伐(send armed forces to suppress)...用(can be carried out)...室(room)...八月(eighth month). (This is not a sentence, just part of an oracle bone.)

  > ![No.1014-己...貞...伐...用...室...八月.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/ZHVWx.gif)
* ### Criticism on "[Explanation of 八 in 象形字典 (*Dictionary of Pictographs*)](http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3606)"

  Like the entry "Etymology of 七", both *Dictionary of Pictographs* and *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts* agree on the original meaning of the oracle glyph of eight, but just explain it respectively as "an extreme number" and "a phonetic loan character". See the entry ["Etymology of 七"](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/a/5421/2816) for the details of criticism.


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### Answer by username_0 on 2013-12-31. Score: 3

## Etymology of 千

* ### [Explanation of 千 in 象形字典 (*Dictionary of Pictographs*)](http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3612)

  > 千，甲骨文![](https://i.sstatic.net/b8H9s.gif)在人![](https://i.sstatic.net/qtBUc.gif)的小腿部位加一横指事符号\*\*`一`\*\*，表示不停地行走。造字本义：不停地走，跋山涉水，即“迁”的本字（当“千”由本义“不停地行走”引申出数量词“十个一百”之后，甲骨文将“二千”二字写成“二”![](https://i.sstatic.net/OtuBp.gif)、“千”![](https://i.sstatic.net/897NS.gif)重叠的一个字![](https://i.sstatic.net/BLuL0.gif)；将“五千”二字写成“五”![](https://i.sstatic.net/cUHTc.gif)、“千”![](https://i.sstatic.net/897NS.gif)重叠的一个字![](https://i.sstatic.net/GNhTj.gif)）。金文![](https://i.sstatic.net/eBDjb.gif)、篆文![](https://i.sstatic.net/IH7aI.gif)承续甲骨文字形。隶书![](https://i.sstatic.net/QYtfL.gif)变化较大，失去甲骨文、金文、篆文字形中的“人”形。当“千”的“不停行走”本义消失后，后代再加“辵”另造“迁”代替。
  >
  > The oracle glyph of 千 ![](https://i.sstatic.net/b8H9s.gif) adds an indicative symbol **`一`** on the man(![](https://i.sstatic.net/qtBUc.gif))'s shank. It means "continuously walking". The original idea of character construction: continuously walking, crossing mountains and rivers, it's the original character of 迁 (move). (When 千's original meaning "continuous walking" extended to "ten times of one hundred", the oracle script wrote "二![](https://i.sstatic.net/OtuBp.gif) 千![](https://i.sstatic.net/897NS.gif)" as one overlapped character ![](https://i.sstatic.net/BLuL0.gif); and wrote "五![](https://i.sstatic.net/cUHTc.gif) 千![](https://i.sstatic.net/897NS.gif)" as ![](https://i.sstatic.net/GNhTj.gif).) Bronze script ![](https://i.sstatic.net/eBDjb.gif) and seal script ![](https://i.sstatic.net/IH7aI.gif) inherited the oracle glyph. The clerical glyph ![](https://i.sstatic.net/QYtfL.gif) changed a lot, lost the shape of a man (人). When the original meaning "continuously walking" of 千 disappeared, later 辵 was added to make it 迁 instead.
  >
  > **Discussion**:
  >
  > The conjecture "千 was the original character of 迁 (move)" on that website was made before the author knowing there were combined oracle glyphs like ![](https://i.sstatic.net/cRZR1.gif) and ![](https://i.sstatic.net/sNZP0.gif). A visitor with the nickname "熊猫" left his brilliant comments below that entry as
  >
  > > 熊猫 2012-12-22 5:43:30 说「千」为「迁」的初文，似不妥。甲骨文中还有「人」字腿上两横，「人」字腿上三横的字，就是两千和三千。所以「千」上的一横似没有更深的意思。况且小篆里面都没有「迁」这个字，只有「遷」。而且「遷」的异体字里，并无一个类似「迁」的字，可见「迁」本就是后人的俗字，无字理可言。以「迁」来附会「千」，实不妥。  
  > >   
  > > 2012-12-22 5:43:30 **Saying 千 is the original form of 迁 appears to be improper. In oracle scripts, there are also characters like "two strokes on 人" and "three strokes on 人", which respectively mean "two thousands" and "three thousands". So the one stroke in 千 shouldn't have a deeper meaning. Furthermore, in seal scripts, there isn't a character like "迁" but only "遷"; besides, in all the variant forms of 遷, there's no one like 迁. Thus essentially 迁 should be the folk form in the later times, without the principle of character forming as what the author has stated. Drawing a far-fetched conclusion for the false evolution "千=>迁", is really not proper.**
  >
  > This comment has pointed out all the potential mistakes in *Dictionary of Pictographs*'s theory, I fully agree with it. And the author replied:
  >
  > > 2012-12-26 3:32:07 感谢熊猫的批评与分享！“千”的甲骨文、金文字形十分丰富，绝大部分字形是“人”字加一横；至于极少数加两横、三横的，说明在造字时代“千”已经引申出了数词（十个百）的含义。  
  > >   
  > > 2012-12-26 3:32:07 Thanks for the criticism from 熊猫. The glyphs for 千 in oracle scripts and bronze scripts are very abundant, but almost all of them are "one stroke adding to 人"; for those tiny minority with "two or three strokes on 人", it just suggests 千 had extended to a numeral in the character making age.
  >
  > However it hadn't refuted 熊猫's criticism well. So I left a comment:
  >
  > > 2013-10-7 14:42:43 赞同网友熊猫的意见。管理员所说“至于极少数加两横、三横的”，单论甲骨文，给人字加二加三的非常常见，甚至还有一些加四横和加“五”字的。在《甲骨文合集》里面如果我没数漏的话，有千字的甲骨一共101片，里面出现的合体千字一共51个（有些一片里面有多于一个），所以用【极少】来形容之，显然不妥。  
  > >   
  > > 2013-10-7 14:42:43 I agree with 熊猫's criticism. For "those tiny minority with "two or three strokes on 人", alone in oracle scripts, they are quite common, even you can find some of them with four strokes or oracle five on it. In *Collections of Oracle Bones*, if I don't miss any, there are 101 pieces of bones with the character 千, 51 pieces of which have the "combined character 千" (some pieces contain more than one). Thus, using "tiny minority" to describe it, obviously, is not proper.
  >
  > And the author replied:
  >
  > > 2013-10-8 2:29:24 感谢溯度的批评！是的，“极少”的说法不妥！在“千”（并非“人”）字上加“二”或加“三”或加“四”或加“五”，本站以为这是古人对“二千”、“三千”、“四千”、“五千”简便合写，而这并不排除“千”的本义为“迁”：正因为“千”有“千万步不断前行”的本义，才引申出数量巨大的“十个百”的含义；而所谓“人+二”或“人+三”或“人+五”的字形，则是以“千”的引申义（数量词）为前提创造的字形。……今人未发现“迁”的金文、篆文，并不说明古代一定没有“迁”的金文、篆文，因为唐代楷书“迁”的字形，或许是全新创造，也可能是有所依循。“迁”强调长距离位移；“遷”强调为移居而转移。  
  > >   
  > > 2013-10-8 2:29:24 Thanks for the criticism! Yes, I admit the "tiny minority" description is not proper. But I think adding "二", "三", "四", or "五" to the character 千 (not 人) was a convenient combining writing for ancient people. It doesn't exclude the original meaning of 千 is 迁. Just because 千 has an original meaning "continuously walking forwards with thousands of steps", it can extends the large numeral meaning "ten times of one hundred"; The glyphs "人+二", "人+三" or "人+五", are based on the extended meaning of 千 (numeral). ... Although we cannot find any bronze script or seal script for the character 迁, it doesn't mean there mustn't be any in the ancient times, because the regular script 迁 in Tang Dynasty might be a new invention, and might be following something. (I think) 迁 emphasizes a long-distance displacement; and 遷 emphasizes "migration".
  >
  > Well, although this reply might be able to answer why `in seal scripts, there isn't a character like "迁" but only "遷"` (without support of material evidence, though), it hadn't explained one crux: why **`in all the variant forms of 遷, there's no one like 迁`**. Thus, personally I haven't been convinced yet.
* ### Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (*Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*)

  # 千

  > ![甲骨文字典千.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/w43UC.gif)
  >
  > 【解字】《說文》：「千，十百也。从十从人。」甲骨文從一，![](https://i.sstatic.net/iX0kB.gif)（人）聲。以一加於人，借人聲為千。又甲骨文以加數目字於千字中表示數千，如二千作![](https://i.sstatic.net/bkJz4.gif)，五千作![](https://i.sstatic.net/DUyiP.gif)，等。
  >
  > **[Character Forming]** *Shuowen* said: "千, ten times of one hundred. Radical is 十 and 人." For the oracle script 千, it's radical is 一, sounds as ![](https://i.sstatic.net/iX0kB.gif) (人). Adding 一 to 人, borrowing the pronunciation of 人 as 千 (MY annotation: so it is a loan phonetic character). In oracle scripts, numerals can be added into the character 千 to mean several thousands, e.g. two thousand can be written as ![](https://i.sstatic.net/bkJz4.gif), five thousand can be written as ![](https://i.sstatic.net/DUyiP.gif), etc.
* ### Rubbings

  No. 17909: **千** ...七...白

  > ![No. 17909 - 千...七...白.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/u7NkS.gif)

  No. 7771: 八日辛亥允伐 **二千** 六百五十人在...

  > ![No. 7771 - 八日辛亥允伐二千六百五十人在.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/d0gcF.gif)

  No. 33182: 召方 **二千** 惟

  > ![No. 33182 - 召方二千惟.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/1kg7l.gif)

  No. 6640 & 6641 & 6642: **三千**

  > ![No. 6640-6641-6642 - 三千.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/N50uA.gif)

  No. 6175: 人 **四千** 呼...貞共人呼見...

  > ![No. 6175 - 人四千呼...貞共人呼見.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/dN3AV.gif)

  No. 7317: 人 **五千** 呼

  > ![No. 7317 - 人五千呼.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/OG1z7.gif)

  No. 17913: **六千**

  > ![No. 17913 - 六千.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/MzEzl.gif)

  No. 31997: **八千**

  > ![No. 31997 - 八千.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/DQJKs.gif)


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### Answer by username_0 on 2013-12-28. Score: 3

## Etymology of 九

* ### [Explanation of 九 in 象形字典 (*Dictionary of Pictographs*)](http://vividict.com/WordInfo.aspx?id=3607)

  > 九，甲骨文![[1]jia(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/NwRAH.gif)是“厷”（肱、臂）与“又”（抓、掏）的组合，表示伸出手掏摸、探究，力求确定内部情况。造字本义：伸手往洞里掏摸、试探，以求确定情况。金文![[2]jin(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/9vSHB.gif)承续甲骨文字形。篆文![[4]zhuan(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/Rf4ax.gif)淡化了手形。当“九”的“掏摸、力求确定情况”的本义消失后，篆文再加“穴”（未知空间）另造“究”代替。
  >
  > The oracle script of nine ![[1]jia(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/NwRAH.gif) is a combination of 厷 (arm) and 又 (grab), and means "stretch out a hand to grab" and then extends to "explore", "try to make inside information clear". The original idea of character construction: stretch a hand into a hole to grab, in order to explore inside. The bronze script ![[2]jin(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/9vSHB.gif) inherits its oracle glyph, and the seal script ![[4]zhuan(1).gif](https://i.sstatic.net/Rf4ax.gif) fade out the shape of a hand. When the original meaning "grab, explore" of 九 disappeared, the seal script added 穴 (hole, unknown space) to make it 究 instead.
* ### Explanation in 甲骨文字典 (*Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*)

  # 九

  > ![甲骨文字典9.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/v9yPw.gif)
  >
  > 【解字】象曲鉤之形。鉤字古作句。內公鐘句作![甲骨文字典9-1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/dXLL4.gif)形，羅振玉云其狀正為圓環，下有物如蛇狀，尾上曲為鉤（《貞松堂集古遺文》卷十一）。句九古音同，故句得借為九，復於句形上加指示符號而作![甲骨文字典9-2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/mkme8.gif)![甲骨文字典9-3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/qOugz.gif)。
  >
  > **[Character Forming]** It was a pictograph of a ***hook***. 鉤 (hook) was written as 句 in ancient times. On the Ruigong Bell, 句 was carved as ![甲骨文字典9-1.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/dXLL4.gif). [Luo Zhenyu](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luo_Zhenyu) (an important Chinese classical scholar, philologist, epigrapher, antiquarian and Qing loyalist) said "its shape was exactly a ring with a dangling snake-like object; the tail curled upwards as a hook." (in *貞松堂集古遺文*, volume 11). 句 and nine pronounced the same in the ancient times, so 句 (hook) is borrowed to mean the numeral nine as a loan phonetic character with an [***indicative symbol***](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character#Simple_ideograms) on it as ![甲骨文字典9-2.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/mkme8.gif) or ![甲骨文字典9-3.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/qOugz.gif).
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  > **My Annotation**:
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  > The *indicative symbol* is a symbol on a pictograph character, which aims at making a new character to have new meanings. For example:
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  > ![indicativeSymbol.png](https://i.sstatic.net/gH6f4.png)
* ### My Analyses

  First, let's summarize the major points in the two dictionaries:

  + *Dictionary of Pictographs*

    > 1. The oracle nine is a combination of 厷(arm) and 又(grab). (Implicitly, it suggests 九 was a loan phonetic character, as 厷 and 九 sounded alike in the ancient times.)
    > 2. 九 is the origin of 究. (It's unlikely to be true, because 究 isn't only written as the glyph that *Dictionary of Pictographs* has analyzed, but also as  in [ancient forms](http://www.internationalscientific.org/CharacterEtymology.aspx?submitButton1=Etymology&characterInput=%E7%A9%B6).)
  + *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts*

    > 九 is a loan phonetic character. It is formed by a hook (句) and an indicative symbol.

  Second, let's consider the difference in these two explanations. The core problem is then clear:

  > ![upper.png](https://i.sstatic.net/KtGbP.png)
  >   
  > Is the upper part (colored blue) of nine an ***indicative symbol (shape of a bar)*** or a ***hand (shape of the oracle glyph 又)***?

  We will compare the oracle glyphs: 九, 又, and 厷.

  + 九 [(Source: Chinese Etymology website)](http://www.internationalscientific.org/CharacterEtymology.aspx?submitButton1=Etymology&characterInput=%E4%B9%9D)

    > ![hanzi-nine.png](https://i.sstatic.net/gRxbp.png)
  + 又 *hand* [(Source: Chinese Etymology website)](http://www.internationalscientific.org/CharacterEtymology.aspx?submitButton1=Etymology&characterInput=%E5%8F%88)

    > ![hanzi-又.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/8qd5y.gif)
  + 厷 *arm* (Source: Dictionary of Oracle Scripts)

    > ![厷.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/b4QCw.gif)

  Now we can see, the characteristic of the pattern of 又 , the "hand part", is written in broken lines or an arc. However, the key part in most character forms of 九 is not written like that but just a straight bar. Only few of them are written like an arc.

  What's interesting, the entry of 厷 in *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts* says:

  > 甲骨文或省指事符號作![厷like九.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/o4Mvb.gif)，致與九字形近。
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  > ... Some oracle glyph of 厷 would omit the indicative symbol to be written as ![厷like九.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/o4Mvb.gif), which makes it look like 九.

  In conclusion, although the comparison result supports the opinion of *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts* more, as this ambiguity actually exists, I won't negate the opinion of *Dictionary of Pictographs*, but would like to consider the opinion of *Dictionary of Oracle Scripts* more reliable :D
* ### Rubbings

  內公鐘(Ruigong Bell, 內 is an interchangeable character for 芮)

  > ![Ruigong Bell](https://i.sstatic.net/2hM4F.gif)
  >
  > 內(芮)公乍(作)從鐘，子孫永寶用。
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  > (On the hook) 內(芮)公乍(作)鑄從鐘之句(鉤)

  No. 1055.

  > ![No.1055.gif](https://i.sstatic.net/aLUCQ.gif)
  >
  > 四日[乙酉](http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B9%99%E9%85%89)...九人...在...

> **Comments:**
> **username_4**: When scrolling down on the list of 九 characters, I got a sort of animated effect of birds flying across the screen.  
> **username_0**: @username_4 haha XD  

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