<p>You can just use 第X席. E.g.2nd violin 5th chair 第二小提琴手第5席. </p>

<p>You rarely saw it probably because if the x>2, they probably do not feel that proud. And no matter 第3席 or 第9席, even the 副首席 does not mean too much to the non-expert audiences (in China)--the spotlight is only on the 首席第一小提琴手.</p>

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Seems logical, do you have a reference, or a usage example?
imrek
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Meruemu
<p>2nd try: <a href="http://www.ichacha.net/%E7%AC%AC%E4%B8%89%E6%8E%92.html" rel="nofollow">我坐在小提琴组的第三排.</a>  I sat in the third row of violins…</p>

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Lin suggests ( In 2011 he was appointed first violinist of the Juilliard String Quartet.) he's the 3rd person to be the 1st violin. And the Chinese source says `林以信在2011年受邀加入，成為創團以來第三位第一小提琴手` or since he was invited in 2011. These seem to be referring to the same thing.
Ringil
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Did some more googling. Probably closer to target this time.
imrek
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Although some Baidu user says 排 refers to the different groups: violon, celli, etc. http://zhidao.baidu.com/question/1881870062804287308.html?fr=iks&word=%B9%DC%CF%D2%C0%D6%B6%D3%C0%D6%C6%F7%B5%C4%CE%BB%D6%C3&ie=gbk
imrek
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排 seems to be like the row. Only marginally related to the chair. I've updated my question to make it clearer what I mean by `chair`.
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<p>In English, in an orchestra one might say that one's chair position is <code>2nd Violin, 5th chair</code>. The 2nd Violin part is easy to say: <code>第二小提琴</code>. But the 5th chair part is troubling. My question is the Chinese way to say <code>X</code> chair where <code>X</code> is larger than 2?</p>

<p>I've asked a number of native Chinese speakers but they were also stymied. I'm aware that 1st chair and 2nd chair are 首席 and 副首席.</p>

<p>EDIT: What I mean by <code>chair</code> is a ranking of skill within the section. It is <strong>not</strong> very related to the row. An example </p>

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  <p>(1st row contains 1violin-1stchair, 2v-1c, 1v-2c, and 2v-2c)</p>
</blockquote>

<p>can be found here: <a href="http://www.violinist.com/discussion/response.cfm?ID=6444" rel="nofollow">http://www.violinist.com/discussion/response.cfm?ID=6444</a></p>

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Chinese word for X chair in a musical group when it isn't 1st or 2nd chair
# Chinese word for X chair in a musical group when it isn't 1st or 2nd chair

(Asked by: username_0 on 2015-08-05)

In English, in an orchestra one might say that one's chair position is `2nd Violin, 5th chair`. The 2nd Violin part is easy to say: `第二小提琴`. But the 5th chair part is troubling. My question is the Chinese way to say `X` chair where `X` is larger than 2?

I've asked a number of native Chinese speakers but they were also stymied. I'm aware that 1st chair and 2nd chair are 首席 and 副首席.

EDIT: What I mean by `chair` is a ranking of skill within the section. It is **not** very related to the row. An example

> (1st row contains 1violin-1stchair, 2v-1c, 1v-2c, and 2v-2c)

can be found here: <http://www.violinist.com/discussion/response.cfm?ID=6444>

**Tags:** translation, vocabulary, word-requests


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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2015-08-05. Score: 1

You can just use 第X席. E.g.2nd violin 5th chair 第二小提琴手第5席.

You rarely saw it probably because if the x>2, they probably do not feel that proud. And no matter 第3席 or 第9席, even the 副首席 does not mean too much to the non-expert audiences (in China)--the spotlight is only on the 首席第一小提琴手.

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: Seems logical, do you have a reference, or a usage example?  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2015-08-05. Score: 0

2nd try: [我坐在小提琴组的第三排.](http://www.ichacha.net/%E7%AC%AC%E4%B8%89%E6%8E%92.html) I sat in the third row of violins…

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Lin suggests ( In 2011 he was appointed first violinist of the Juilliard String Quartet.) he's the 3rd person to be the 1st violin. And the Chinese source says `林以信在2011年受邀加入，成為創團以來第三位第一小提琴手` or since he was invited in 2011. These seem to be referring to the same thing.  
> **username_2**: Did some more googling. Probably closer to target this time.  
> **username_2**: Although some Baidu user says 排 refers to the different groups: violon, celli, etc. http://zhidao.baidu.com/question/1881870062804287308.html?fr=iks&word=%B9%DC%CF%D2%C0%D6%B6%D3%C0%D6%C6%F7%B5%C4%CE%BB%D6%C3&ie=gbk  
> **username_0**: 排 seems to be like the row. Only marginally related to the chair. I've updated my question to make it clearer what I mean by `chair`.  

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