<p>no, &quot;波傲蟀&quot; is not a natural chinese name.</p>
<p><strong>the answer below is extremely superstitious, read with cautions.</strong></p>
<p>there're many sects of fortune telling; here, i convert your birthday to &quot;eight characters&quot; (八字), with our any adjustment.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>was born on May 27, 1988 (year of the dragon), around 8:30 a.m.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>your eight characters would be:</p>
<pre>
甲 壬 丁 戊
辰 午 巳 辰
</pre>
<p>in terms of five elements (五行):</p>
<pre>
木 水 火 土
土 火 火 土
</pre>
<p>a simple saying of it is: 五行欠金 (lack of the metal element)</p>
<p>for such case, people would choose a baby name with the component 金 (radical 167), might be 木 (radical 75) &amp; 水 (radical 85). meanwhile, they would avoid any character with the component 火 (radical 86) &amp; 土 (radical 32).</p>
<p>edited.</p>
<p>i see. ok, without yin &amp; yang, my first suggestion is:</p>
<h2>白鷺, 振</h2>
<p>your surname &quot;ballo&quot;, it sounds identical to <a href="http://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=%E7%99%BD" rel="nofollow noreferrer">白 (u+767d)</a> &amp; <a href="http://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=%E9%B7%BA" rel="nofollow noreferrer">鷺 (u+9dfa)</a> according to cantonese.  these two characters together, means <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_egret" rel="nofollow noreferrer">&quot;little egret&quot;</a></p>
<p>it's a double characters surname. little egret (白鷺) is a good symbol in chinese culture.</p>
<p>from 禽經:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>鷺．白鷺也．小不踰大．飛有次序．百官縉紳之象</p>
</blockquote>
<p>about the given name <a href="http://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=%E6%8C%AF" rel="nofollow noreferrer">振 (u+632f)</a>, it roughly means flap. when a little egret flaps its wings, it determines to fly, upwards into the sky.</p>
<p>this character is chosen according to a poem (indeed, there're countless poems talked about little egret).in the book of poetry <a href="https://ctext.org/book-of-poetry/zhen-lu?searchu=%E9%B7%BA&amp;searchmode=showall" rel="nofollow noreferrer">(詩經　周頌　臣工之什　振鷺):</a></p>
<blockquote>
<p>振鷺于飛．于彼西雝</p>
<p>我客戾止．亦有斯容</p>
<p>在彼無惡．在此無斁</p>
<p>庶幾夙夜．以永終譽</p>
</blockquote>
<p>more about 鷺:</p>
<p><a href="https://archive.org/details/06072836.cn/page/n134" rel="nofollow noreferrer">御定駢字類編　卷二百五　p134-144</a></p>
<p><a href="https://archive.org/details/06074374.cn/page/n65" rel="nofollow noreferrer">御定分類字錦　卷五十六 鷗鷺第十七　p65-78</a></p>
<p>these two are cheat-sheets, most, if not all related texts / poems are recorded. need some level of competency to read it.</p>
<p>my second suggestion, considering yin &amp; yang, is:</p>
<h2>巴, 鑫</h2>
<p>again, the first syllable of &quot;ballo&quot; in italian, is quite similar to <a href="http://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=%E5%B7%B4" rel="nofollow noreferrer">巴 (u+5df4)</a> in cantonese.</p>
<p>it's a &quot;common&quot; han chinese surname.</p>
<p>back to five elements, your birthday is considered as having one wood (木), one water (水), three fire (火), three earth (土), and without any metal (金).</p>
<p>then, the compensation is choosing a name with component 金, in order to &quot;feel / think&quot; that name plus birthday together, all five elements are included.</p>
<p>that why the character <a href="http://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=%E9%91%AB" rel="nofollow noreferrer">鑫 (u+946b)</a> is chosen. it means &quot;prospering or good profit&quot;.</p>
<p>if you examine the character closely, 鑫 is composed by three 金, which matches three fire and three earth in your birthday.</p>
<p>the name &quot;巴鑫&quot; would be a ordinary, common one.</p>
<p>the above show a basic method only, different sects of fortune telling would have different considerations or compensations.</p>
<p>have fun :)</p>

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Thank you for your insight on my reply! Since you asked, my general preference would be that of having a name that suggests a determined spirit or a reflexive one. I was looking for reference to an animal to convey this message (bird, insect or the like), that's why I thought of the cricket, which I really like!
Emans27
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By the way, my name is Emanuele (first name) Ballo (surname)!
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You should listen to 水巷孑蠻, I'm sure his advice is in line with Chinese tradition.
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I'll do for sure, 水巷孑蠻's suggestions and his late edit of his initial answer is absolutely welcome and I really appreciate his efforts and detailed answers! Looking forward for the further suggestions he was mentioning! Thank you indeed!
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I think you can put your first comment (`no, "波傲蟀" is not a natural chinese name`) in the answer, because that answers the question directly :)
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ok, edit done :)
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<p>Since I am a westerner and I study Chinese, I am currently undergoing the hard task of choosing a Chinese name for myself. The last thing I want to do is to simply translate my Italian name in Chinese... instead, I want to pick up a name that really sounds Chinese.</p>

<p>My passion for Chinese culture led me to buy an old book that aims at leading the reader to choose an auspicious Chinese name based on zodiac, yin/yang, binomials, stroke numbers etc. I was born on May 27, 1988 (year of the dragon), around 8:30 a.m., and after some study and attempts, I came up to what sounds to me like a fair name, but I would really like to hear from any Chinese native speaker or experts among you if, to your ears, this sounds like a good name for a male.</p>

<p>So, here we go: the surname is 波 (Bo1), given name 傲蟀 (Ao2 Shuai4) - I  really liked the idea of having both a character that reminds of the cricket, with its fighting spirit and good fortune meaning, and a character that conveys the meaning of being proud.
Does this sound like a nice/good/fair/natural name to you? Any possible suggestions?
I really appreciate any feedback you may give me.</p>

<p>Thank you!</p>

<p>I insert the answer to your comment/question also here: I have chosen 白+鷺振. I like the idea that the 白鷺 bird (and the sound of my actual Italian surname) is suggested by the surname 白 and by the first character of the given name. According to my little understanding of Chinese traditional beliefs regarding names (based on the little book I mentioned at the very beginning), it seems to me that 白+鷺振 works fairly well also in terms of ying/yang, being an auspicious combination of Yang+yin+yin. Moreover, it seems that the zongge of the name (total strokes of the three characters) amounts to 39, related to happiness and blessing.</p>

<p>I hope this works!</p>

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no, "波傲蟀" is not a natural chinese name. would you give me your original full name, and preferences?
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well, may i ask, what's your level of chinese competency? cause, my answer might be too simple for expert, or complicated for novice.
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I'd rate my Chinese as lower-intermediate.
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then, at this moment, try to comprehend the poem provided is ok.  in case, if you need, there're ample texts, stories about little egret.
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I really appreciate the edit of your answer, it is incredibly detailed and you came up with a great suggestion which I deeply appreciate. If you have any further suggestions or idea, I will treasure it greatly! Thank you indeed.
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For sure I will do! Thanks a lot!
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I have examined your reply. Luckily enough, I have an English version of the Book of Odes, since I could not translate the poem properly on my own :) Anyway, it is really awesome. I love the reference you have made to the little egret and the Odes. I was just wondering a couple of things: 1) is 白鷺 a Han surname? Searched through the net but couldn't find any reference of people with that surname (maybe it's just me who am not able to find it...); 2) would it be possible to keep 白 the surname and to have the given name sound as 鷺振? If this sounded well to you, I'd really like it. Thank you!!
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normally, it would be 白 as surname, and 鷺振 as given name. "白鷺" is not a han chinese surname, the rationale of this suggestion is: think different (^o^) come on, you're "foreigner", you've liberty to invent a chinese surname. so, why not?
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anyway, the full name "白鷺振" is better than billions of people's one, and, you can always claim that it's derived from the book of odes; such a niche privilege :)
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Yes, definitely a privilege I achieved thank to you! I love the fact it is derived from the Odes (I made classical studies and I love poetry), and have read some comments on the Ode about egrets... wonderful meanings. I think I have my name now, fantastic! Since you mentioned some stories about egrets, may I bother you by asking for some sources where I can read about egrets in Chinese culture? Your help has been precious indeed, I really thank you deeply.
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so, may i ask, you choose "白鷺+振" or "白+鷺振"? just want to know the karma :)
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resources added in answer, read again, please :)
水巷孑蠻
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Sorry for that... I completely missed it... thank you!
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Sure, I have chosen 白+鷺振. I like the idea that the 白鷺 bird (and the sound of my actual Italian surname) is suggested by the surname 白 and by the first character of the given name. According to my little understanding of Chinese traditional beliefs regarding names (based on the little book I mentioned at the very beginning), it seems to me that 白+鷺振 works fairly well also in terms of ying/yang, being an auspicious combination of Yang+yin+yin. Moreover, it seems that the zongge of the name (total strokes of the three characters) amounts to 39, related to happiness and blessing.I hope this works!
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very good :) remember to comprehend the poem (^o^)
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Does 波傲蟀 sound like a natural name?
# Does 波傲蟀 sound like a natural name?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2019-08-20)

Since I am a westerner and I study Chinese, I am currently undergoing the hard task of choosing a Chinese name for myself. The last thing I want to do is to simply translate my Italian name in Chinese... instead, I want to pick up a name that really sounds Chinese.

My passion for Chinese culture led me to buy an old book that aims at leading the reader to choose an auspicious Chinese name based on zodiac, yin/yang, binomials, stroke numbers etc. I was born on May 27, 1988 (year of the dragon), around 8:30 a.m., and after some study and attempts, I came up to what sounds to me like a fair name, but I would really like to hear from any Chinese native speaker or experts among you if, to your ears, this sounds like a good name for a male.

So, here we go: the surname is 波 (Bo1), given name 傲蟀 (Ao2 Shuai4) - I  really liked the idea of having both a character that reminds of the cricket, with its fighting spirit and good fortune meaning, and a character that conveys the meaning of being proud.
Does this sound like a nice/good/fair/natural name to you? Any possible suggestions?
I really appreciate any feedback you may give me.

Thank you!

I insert the answer to your comment/question also here: I have chosen 白+鷺振. I like the idea that the 白鷺 bird (and the sound of my actual Italian surname) is suggested by the surname 白 and by the first character of the given name. According to my little understanding of Chinese traditional beliefs regarding names (based on the little book I mentioned at the very beginning), it seems to me that 白+鷺振 works fairly well also in terms of ying/yang, being an auspicious combination of Yang+yin+yin. Moreover, it seems that the zongge of the name (total strokes of the three characters) amounts to 39, related to happiness and blessing.

I hope this works!

**Tags:** names

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: no, "波傲蟀" is not a natural chinese name. would you give me your original full name, and preferences?  
> **username_1**: well, may i ask, what's your level of chinese competency? cause, my answer might be too simple for expert, or complicated for novice.  
> **username_0**: I'd rate my Chinese as lower-intermediate.  
> **username_1**: then, at this moment, try to comprehend the poem provided is ok.  in case, if you need, there're ample texts, stories about little egret.  
> **username_0**: I really appreciate the edit of your answer, it is incredibly detailed and you came up with a great suggestion which I deeply appreciate. If you have any further suggestions or idea, I will treasure it greatly! Thank you indeed.  
> **username_0**: For sure I will do! Thanks a lot!  
> **username_0**: I have examined your reply. Luckily enough, I have an English version of the Book of Odes, since I could not translate the poem properly on my own :) Anyway, it is really awesome. I love the reference you have made to the little egret and the Odes. I was just wondering a couple of things: 1) is 白鷺 a Han surname? Searched through the net but couldn't find any reference of people with that surname (maybe it's just me who am not able to find it...); 2) would it be possible to keep 白 the surname and to have the given name sound as 鷺振? If this sounded well to you, I'd really like it. Thank you!!  
> **username_1**: normally, it would be 白 as surname, and 鷺振 as given name. "白鷺" is not a han chinese surname, the rationale of this suggestion is: think different (^o^) come on, you're "foreigner", you've liberty to invent a chinese surname. so, why not?  
> **username_1**: anyway, the full name "白鷺振" is better than billions of people's one, and, you can always claim that it's derived from the book of odes; such a niche privilege :)  
> **username_0**: Yes, definitely a privilege I achieved thank to you! I love the fact it is derived from the Odes (I made classical studies and I love poetry), and have read some comments on the Ode about egrets... wonderful meanings. I think I have my name now, fantastic! Since you mentioned some stories about egrets, may I bother you by asking for some sources where I can read about egrets in Chinese culture? Your help has been precious indeed, I really thank you deeply.  
> **username_1**: so, may i ask, you choose "白鷺+振" or "白+鷺振"? just want to know the karma :)  
> **username_1**: resources added in answer, read again, please :)  
> **username_0**: Sorry for that... I completely missed it... thank you!  
> **username_0**: Sure, I have chosen 白+鷺振. I like the idea that the 白鷺 bird (and the sound of my actual Italian surname) is suggested by the surname 白 and by the first character of the given name. According to my little understanding of Chinese traditional beliefs regarding names (based on the little book I mentioned at the very beginning), it seems to me that 白+鷺振 works fairly well also in terms of ying/yang, being an auspicious combination of Yang+yin+yin. Moreover, it seems that the zongge of the name (total strokes of the three characters) amounts to 39, related to happiness and blessing.I hope this works!  
> **username_1**: very good :) remember to comprehend the poem (^o^)  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2019-08-20. Score: 3 | Accepted answer

no, "波傲蟀" is not a natural chinese name.

**the answer below is extremely superstitious, read with cautions.**

there're many sects of fortune telling; here, i convert your birthday to "eight characters" (八字), with our any adjustment.

> was born on May 27, 1988 (year of the dragon), around 8:30 a.m.

your eight characters would be:

```

甲 壬 丁 戊
辰 午 巳 辰

```

in terms of five elements (五行):

```

木 水 火 土
土 火 火 土

```

a simple saying of it is: 五行欠金 (lack of the metal element)

for such case, people would choose a baby name with the component 金 (radical 167), might be 木 (radical 75) & 水 (radical 85). meanwhile, they would avoid any character with the component 火 (radical 86) & 土 (radical 32).

edited.

i see. ok, without yin & yang, my first suggestion is:

## 白鷺, 振

your surname "ballo", it sounds identical to [白 (u+767d)](http://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=%E7%99%BD) & [鷺 (u+9dfa)](http://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=%E9%B7%BA) according to cantonese. these two characters together, means ["little egret"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_egret)

it's a double characters surname. little egret (白鷺) is a good symbol in chinese culture.

from 禽經:

> 鷺．白鷺也．小不踰大．飛有次序．百官縉紳之象

about the given name [振 (u+632f)](http://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=%E6%8C%AF), it roughly means flap. when a little egret flaps its wings, it determines to fly, upwards into the sky.

this character is chosen according to a poem (indeed, there're countless poems talked about little egret).in the book of poetry [(詩經　周頌　臣工之什　振鷺):](https://ctext.org/book-of-poetry/zhen-lu?searchu=%E9%B7%BA&searchmode=showall)

> 振鷺于飛．于彼西雝
>
> 我客戾止．亦有斯容
>
> 在彼無惡．在此無斁
>
> 庶幾夙夜．以永終譽

more about 鷺:

[御定駢字類編　卷二百五　p134-144](https://archive.org/details/06072836.cn/page/n134)

[御定分類字錦　卷五十六 鷗鷺第十七　p65-78](https://archive.org/details/06074374.cn/page/n65)

these two are cheat-sheets, most, if not all related texts / poems are recorded. need some level of competency to read it.

my second suggestion, considering yin & yang, is:

## 巴, 鑫

again, the first syllable of "ballo" in italian, is quite similar to [巴 (u+5df4)](http://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=%E5%B7%B4) in cantonese.

it's a "common" han chinese surname.

back to five elements, your birthday is considered as having one wood (木), one water (水), three fire (火), three earth (土), and without any metal (金).

then, the compensation is choosing a name with component 金, in order to "feel / think" that name plus birthday together, all five elements are included.

that why the character [鑫 (u+946b)](http://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=%E9%91%AB) is chosen. it means "prospering or good profit".

if you examine the character closely, 鑫 is composed by three 金, which matches three fire and three earth in your birthday.

the name "巴鑫" would be a ordinary, common one.

the above show a basic method only, different sects of fortune telling would have different considerations or compensations.

have fun :)

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Thank you for your insight on my reply! Since you asked, my general preference would be that of having a name that suggests a determined spirit or a reflexive one. I was looking for reference to an animal to convey this message (bird, insect or the like), that's why I thought of the cricket, which I really like!  
> **username_0**: By the way, my name is Emanuele (first name) Ballo (surname)!  
> **username_2**: You should listen to username_1, I'm sure his advice is in line with Chinese tradition.  
> **username_0**: I'll do for sure, username_1's suggestions and his late edit of his initial answer is absolutely welcome and I really appreciate his efforts and detailed answers! Looking forward for the further suggestions he was mentioning! Thank you indeed!  
> **username_3**: I think you can put your first comment (`no, "波傲蟀" is not a natural chinese name`) in the answer, because that answers the question directly :)  
> **username_1**: ok, edit done :)  

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