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  <p>太阳 Tàiyáng, Sun: pronounced "Tie Yang"</p>
</blockquote>

<p>太 Tài：highest; greatest</p>

<p>阳　yáng：sun</p>

<p>You may find some reference yáng as 5th tone (轻声 qīngshēng) because it's easier to pronounce in spoken Chinese. The character 阳 yáng by itself is always 2nd tone.</p>

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2013-08-19T15:08:44.630Z
Don't believe source from "百度知道 Baidu Zhidao" so much. This is a controversial issue. In 现代汉语词典, 太阳 is clearly marked as `tài yáng` and 月亮 as `yuè liang`. So the pronunciation for 太阳 in formal Mandarin should be tàiyáng. However in many dialects 太阳 is "tài yang" so many people mistake it. This [source](http://zhidao.baidu.com/question/73007286.html) is wrong, that answer first stated 阳 was 轻声 but the evidence given was only `(我)们` is 轻声. It didn't make sense at all.
Stan
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2013-08-19T15:39:37.990Z
@Stan okay thanks for that. Actually I could access his original link, so I just searched his question and that's what came up. I'll edit my response.
user3871
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Sometimes the 陽 is softened to yang0. For example, 今天太陽好大啊 jin1 tian1 tai4 yang0 hao3 da4 a0 = What a sunny day today. This kind of softening process happens because of the fast paced talking style in Chinese language. So when you slow down, it comes back to normal.
George
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2013-08-19T17:09:28.357Z
Don'be believe 現代漢語詞典 (現漢) much too, language is alive, dictionary is dead, at least dead before next revision. Usually it's a funny thing to do among school student, to catch how many conflicts occur between 現漢 and 新聞聯播.
George
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2013-08-20T11:52:48.147Z
@congliu if the topic is not about the *standard* but just the spoken language, whatever accent you have doesn't matter.
Stan
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2013-08-23T01:04:13.930Z
@Stan "tai4 yang2" sounds normal to me, but "yue4 linag4" does not. So for 月亮, a neutral tone is a must. That's why 现代汉语词典 has the pronunciation like that.
fefe
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user3871
<p>Heres a few excerpts from some books that speak about this:</p>

<p>Ross and Ma (2006), Modern Mandarin Chinese Grammar, §2.4, p.9: In Beijing and northern China, certain syllables lose their original tone and are pronounced as neutral tone. This tone change does not occur in Taiwan, where all syllables retain their original tones.</p>

<p>San Duanmu (2007), The Phonology of Standard Chinese, §13.7.2, p.308: In S[tandard]C[hinese], de-stressing is quite common (see above). In Taiwanese accented SC (TWSC), de-stressing occurs less frequently.</p>

<p>sounds like these are books written in taiwan - so it looks like this is their opinion.</p>

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ngb
<p>Speaking solely from my experience as a native, I think both pronunciation (tai4 yang2 and tai4 yang5) are OK. tai4 yang5 may be heard more because of the ease to pronounce.</p>

<p>For respected sources, I'd still recommend 现代汉语词典. There is also a site called 汉典(<a href="http://www.zdic.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zdic.net/</a>) which I often refer to, but it sometimes has minor errors (as can be found in its forum). You should note that pinyin noted in dictionaries usually won't consider the tone sandhi effect (the effect that yu3 san3 is actually pronounce yu2 san3).</p>

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fefe
<p>you can use <code>Google 翻译</code></p>

<p><a href="http://translate.google.cn/#auto/zh-CN/%E5%A4%AA%E9%98%B3" rel="nofollow">http://translate.google.cn/#auto/zh-CN/%E5%A4%AA%E9%98%B3</a></p>

<p><a href="http://translate.google.cn/#auto/zh-CN/%E9%98%B3" rel="nofollow">http://translate.google.cn/#auto/zh-CN/%E9%98%B3</a>
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tài &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; yáng</p>

<p>太 and 阳 both have only one pronunciation. (阳 as the second one)</p>

<p>But 太阳 speech as only the first one.</p>

<p>becouse the last word speech <strong>softer</strong> than their orignal sound <strong>in some word</strong>. (I don't know why :P)</p>

<p>some other word:</p>

<ul>
<li>妈妈</li>
<li>爸爸</li>
<li>星星</li>
<li>月亮</li>
<li>桌子</li>
<li>椅子</li>
</ul>

<p>Word's "orignal" sound is align to 《新华字典》,which defined by the law.</p>

<p>You will <em>(only?)</em> hear 太阳 really sounds "tài yáng" in government reports (Ha ha...</p>

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2013-08-23T10:05:25.147Z
Wait ... Miss Google's pronunciation should not be trusted.
Stan
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you are right. but these two simple word "happens to" right. XD
GongT
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GongT
<p>Whether to realise 轻声 isn't really a problem -- many southerners in China don't do that (of course one may argue that it is a non-standard accent) and do not cause any problem at all in understanding, so long as you could realise the tones correctly.</p>

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user58955
<p>What is the correct pinyin and pronunciation for 太阳?</p>

<p>Most dictionaries put it as: tai4 yang2, but I noticed cc-cedict uses tai4 yang5. There is also a discussion in the change log around colloquial and correct pronunciation. They reference another discussion <a href="http://zhidao.baidu.com/question/73007286.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> which also talks about this, though the references here aren't what I'd call necessarily respected.</p>

<p>So wondering what people's thoughts are here? In additon are there any respected sources for one way vs another for what is the correct pinyin and pronunciation? I'm talking "普通话" specifically.</p>

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Correct pinyin and pronunciation for 太阳
# Correct pinyin and pronunciation for 太阳

(Asked by: username_0 on 2013-08-19)

What is the correct pinyin and pronunciation for 太阳?

Most dictionaries put it as: tai4 yang2, but I noticed cc-cedict uses tai4 yang5. There is also a discussion in the change log around colloquial and correct pronunciation. They reference another discussion [here](http://zhidao.baidu.com/question/73007286.html) which also talks about this, though the references here aren't what I'd call necessarily respected.

So wondering what people's thoughts are here? In additon are there any respected sources for one way vs another for what is the correct pinyin and pronunciation? I'm talking "普通话" specifically.

**Tags:** pronunciation, pinyin


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## 5 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2013-08-19. Score: 3

> 太阳 Tàiyáng, Sun: pronounced "Tie Yang"

太 Tài：highest; greatest

阳　yáng：sun

You may find some reference yáng as 5th tone (轻声 qīngshēng) because it's easier to pronounce in spoken Chinese. The character 阳 yáng by itself is always 2nd tone.

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: Don't believe source from "百度知道 Baidu Zhidao" so much. This is a controversial issue. In 现代汉语词典, 太阳 is clearly marked as `tài yáng` and 月亮 as `yuè liang`. So the pronunciation for 太阳 in formal Mandarin should be tàiyáng. However in many dialects 太阳 is "tài yang" so many people mistake it. This [source](http://zhidao.baidu.com/question/73007286.html) is wrong, that answer first stated 阳 was 轻声 but the evidence given was only `(我)们` is 轻声. It didn't make sense at all.  
> **username_1**: @username_2 okay thanks for that. Actually I could access his original link, so I just searched his question and that's what came up. I'll edit my response.  
> **username_3**: Sometimes the 陽 is softened to yang0. For example, 今天太陽好大啊 jin1 tian1 tai4 yang0 hao3 da4 a0 = What a sunny day today. This kind of softening process happens because of the fast paced talking style in Chinese language. So when you slow down, it comes back to normal.  
> **username_3**: Don'be believe 現代漢語詞典 (現漢) much too, language is alive, dictionary is dead, at least dead before next revision. Usually it's a funny thing to do among school student, to catch how many conflicts occur between 現漢 and 新聞聯播.  
> **username_2**: @congliu if the topic is not about the *standard* but just the spoken language, whatever accent you have doesn't matter.  
> **username_4**: @username_2 "tai4 yang2" sounds normal to me, but "yue4 linag4" does not. So for 月亮, a neutral tone is a must. That's why 现代汉语词典 has the pronunciation like that.  

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### Answer by username_0 on 2013-08-20. Score: 3

Heres a few excerpts from some books that speak about this:

Ross and Ma (2006), Modern Mandarin Chinese Grammar, §2.4, p.9: In Beijing and northern China, certain syllables lose their original tone and are pronounced as neutral tone. This tone change does not occur in Taiwan, where all syllables retain their original tones.

San Duanmu (2007), The Phonology of Standard Chinese, §13.7.2, p.308: In S[tandard]C[hinese], de-stressing is quite common (see above). In Taiwanese accented SC (TWSC), de-stressing occurs less frequently.

sounds like these are books written in taiwan - so it looks like this is their opinion.


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### Answer by username_4 on 2013-08-23. Score: 1

Speaking solely from my experience as a native, I think both pronunciation (tai4 yang2 and tai4 yang5) are OK. tai4 yang5 may be heard more because of the ease to pronounce.

For respected sources, I'd still recommend 现代汉语词典. There is also a site called 汉典(<http://www.zdic.net/>) which I often refer to, but it sometimes has minor errors (as can be found in its forum). You should note that pinyin noted in dictionaries usually won't consider the tone sandhi effect (the effect that yu3 san3 is actually pronounce yu2 san3).


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### Answer by username_5 on 2013-08-23. Score: 0

you can use `Google 翻译`

<http://translate.google.cn/#auto/zh-CN/%E5%A4%AA%E9%98%B3>

<http://translate.google.cn/#auto/zh-CN/%E9%98%B3>

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tài      yáng

太 and 阳 both have only one pronunciation. (阳 as the second one)

But 太阳 speech as only the first one.

becouse the last word speech **softer** than their orignal sound **in some word**. (I don't know why :P)

some other word:

* 妈妈
* 爸爸
* 星星
* 月亮
* 桌子
* 椅子

Word's "orignal" sound is align to 《新华字典》,which defined by the law.

You will *(only?)* hear 太阳 really sounds "tài yáng" in government reports (Ha ha...

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: Wait ... Miss Google's pronunciation should not be trusted.  
> **username_5**: you are right. but these two simple word "happens to" right. XD  

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### Answer by username_6 on 2013-09-17. Score: 0

Whether to realise 轻声 isn't really a problem -- many southerners in China don't do that (of course one may argue that it is a non-standard accent) and do not cause any problem at all in understanding, so long as you could realise the tones correctly.


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