<p>I am a native speaker and consider myself a "data" person.</p>

<p>From my perspective, he didn't end the sentence properly and his array of sentences could be changed a bit like below so it's easier to understand.</p>

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  <p>从我的观察来看，不同企业对于data scientist这个title的定义其实是有分歧的。
      <strong>有</strong>偏向于data reseacher<strong>的</strong>，多见于大型IT企业。百度大脑的data scientist们多属于这一类型，他们搞的是比较前沿的深度学习，平常会读大量paper可能自己也会发<strong>文章</strong>。</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The purpose of <strong>有...的</strong> is to illustrate his/her point using example(s).</p>

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<p>You shouldn't expect a strict grammar on the Internet, especially for social media. His meaning is clear, though his grammar is unpleasant. I feel uncomfortable with his sentences just as you do.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://www.zhihu.com/question/20935297/answer/28465543" rel="nofollow noreferrer">the following sentence over 知乎</a>:</p>
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<p>从我的观察来看，不同企业对于data scientist这个title的定义其实是有分歧的，<strong>偏向于data reseacher的有</strong>，多见于大型IT企业，百度大脑的data scientist们多属于这一类型，他们搞的是比较前沿的深度学习，平常会读大量paper可能自己也会发；<strong>偏向于data creative的有</strong>，各种企业都会储备，会ETL，懂模型、懂行业，会展示沟通，比较能够创造直接的价值。<strong>偏向于data developer的也有</strong>但是很少，他们不懂模型，只要给他们算法公式，他们就能用编程语言帮你实现，实现算法是重要的技能，但是这种不懂模型不懂行业的，现在大多企业都不太会给这样的人data scientist的title了。</p>
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<p>The grammar book does not seem to have this usage of 有.</p>
<p>I feel that the meaning is similar to 关于 or 至于 (at least in this context), so the relevant sentence above can be rewritten as follows:</p>
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<p>关于偏向于data researcher (or suffix &quot;的话&quot; here?)，</p>
<p>关于data developer，虽然他们比减少，</p>
</blockquote>
<p>However, grammatically how does 有 work here? I just check out <a href="https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E6%9C%89" rel="nofollow noreferrer">the Chinese grammar wiki</a> but didn't find any relevant pages.</p>

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偏 inclined 向于 to data researcher/data creative 的 ones
有 there are， thus "there are those inclined to data researcher", " there are those inclined to data creative"
的 may refer to ＂data scientist这个title的定义＂mentioned before
user6065
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verb 有 would usually precede its objects, data researcher/data creative 的 in the present case, but objects can be fronted
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As a standalone phrase, `偏向于data reseacher的有` means exactly the same thing as `有偏向于data reseacher的` or `有的偏向于data reseacher` - if the latter two makes more sense to you. As mentioned in the comments above - it means "there are those [businesses] which prefer defining the term *data scientist* as a *data researcher*".
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What usage does 有 have in ~的有 (e.g. 偏向于data reseacher的有)
# What usage does 有 have in ~的有 (e.g. 偏向于data reseacher的有)

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-03-22)

In [the following sentence over 知乎](https://www.zhihu.com/question/20935297/answer/28465543):

> 从我的观察来看，不同企业对于data scientist这个title的定义其实是有分歧的，**偏向于data reseacher的有**，多见于大型IT企业，百度大脑的data scientist们多属于这一类型，他们搞的是比较前沿的深度学习，平常会读大量paper可能自己也会发；**偏向于data creative的有**，各种企业都会储备，会ETL，懂模型、懂行业，会展示沟通，比较能够创造直接的价值。**偏向于data developer的也有**但是很少，他们不懂模型，只要给他们算法公式，他们就能用编程语言帮你实现，实现算法是重要的技能，但是这种不懂模型不懂行业的，现在大多企业都不太会给这样的人data scientist的title了。

The grammar book does not seem to have this usage of 有.

I feel that the meaning is similar to 关于 or 至于 (at least in this context), so the relevant sentence above can be rewritten as follows:

> 关于偏向于data researcher (or suffix "的话" here?)，
>
> 关于data developer，虽然他们比减少，

However, grammatically how does 有 work here? I just check out [the Chinese grammar wiki](https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%E6%9C%89) but didn't find any relevant pages.

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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: 偏 inclined 向于 to data researcher/data creative 的 ones 有 there are， thus "there are those inclined to data researcher", " there are those inclined to data creative" 的 may refer to ＂data scientist这个title的定义＂mentioned before  
> **username_1**: verb 有 would usually precede its objects, data researcher/data creative 的 in the present case, but objects can be fronted  
> **username_2**: As a standalone phrase, `偏向于data reseacher的有` means exactly the same thing as `有偏向于data reseacher的` or `有的偏向于data reseacher` - if the latter two makes more sense to you. As mentioned in the comments above - it means "there are those [businesses] which prefer defining the term *data scientist* as a *data researcher*".  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_3 on 2018-03-22. Score: 3

I am a native speaker and consider myself a "data" person.

From my perspective, he didn't end the sentence properly and his array of sentences could be changed a bit like below so it's easier to understand.

> 从我的观察来看，不同企业对于data scientist这个title的定义其实是有分歧的。
> **有**偏向于data reseacher**的**，多见于大型IT企业。百度大脑的data scientist们多属于这一类型，他们搞的是比较前沿的深度学习，平常会读大量paper可能自己也会发**文章**。

The purpose of **有...的** is to illustrate his/her point using example(s).


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### Answer by username_4 on 2019-11-21. Score: 0

You shouldn't expect a strict grammar on the Internet, especially for social media. His meaning is clear, though his grammar is unpleasant. I feel uncomfortable with his sentences just as you do.


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