<p>就算 even if </p>

<p>世界 the world</p>

<p>与 and</p>

<p>我 I</p>

<p>为 as, being</p>

<p>敌 enemies</p>

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Is 就算 here interchangeable with 即使 and/or 那怕？
Yoav Vollansky
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@YoavVollansky: yes I believe so.
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Siyi Deng
<p>Although Siyi Deng has already answered it correctly, I'm just making it more clear, hope u understand, :)</p>

<p>In this case:</p>

<p>Even if         = 就算
the world     = 世界</p>

<p>became / enemy / with / me
     为     /     敌    /   与 /   我</p>

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我爱中文
<p>世界与我为敌 here means "the world and me are hostile". 敌 is not a noun here, in fact it's an adjective in my opinion, 敌对的 in Chinese. </p>

<p>If the phrase is "世界<strong>以</strong>我为敌", then the 敌 would be a noun means enemy.</p>

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thinwa
<p>与 here serves as a noun conjunction (you could replace it with 和), and links 世界 and 我 forming a composite subject. Its proper translation however depends on the verb that follows, which is 为.
为 oftentimes can be rendered just as "to be". It is after all a copular verb, especially in this sentence, therefore：</p>

<p>就算 / (世界 / 与 / 我) / (为 / 敌)</p>

<p>Even if it's me against the world</p>

<p>However, you should also consider that 与 can work as a preposition, thus it relates to the following 我 more strongly than "pure" conjunctions, so it's also acceptable to parse it as: 
世界 / 与我
For this reason I would tend to give more prominence to 世界 semantically, therefore I think the best translation is:</p>

<p>Even if the world's against me</p>

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blackgreen
<p>I'm looking at the phrase: "就算世界与我为敌"
and I understand that the gist of it is: "Even against the whole world"</p>

<p>But, I don't fully understand how to properly parse it. In particular, the words:</p>

<p>与 - and / with</p>

<p>为 - as / because of / for</p>

<p>I'm not sure how they're being used here.</p>

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How to parse "就算世界与我为敌"?
# How to parse "就算世界与我为敌"?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2015-11-09)

I'm looking at the phrase: "就算世界与我为敌"
and I understand that the gist of it is: "Even against the whole world"

But, I don't fully understand how to properly parse it. In particular, the words:

与 - and / with

为 - as / because of / for

I'm not sure how they're being used here.

**Tags:** translation, meaning


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## 4 answers

### Answer by username_5 on 2015-11-09. Score: 6 | Accepted answer

与 here serves as a noun conjunction (you could replace it with 和), and links 世界 and 我 forming a composite subject. Its proper translation however depends on the verb that follows, which is 为.
为 oftentimes can be rendered just as "to be". It is after all a copular verb, especially in this sentence, therefore：

就算 / (世界 / 与 / 我) / (为 / 敌)

Even if it's me against the world

However, you should also consider that 与 can work as a preposition, thus it relates to the following 我 more strongly than "pure" conjunctions, so it's also acceptable to parse it as:
世界 / 与我
For this reason I would tend to give more prominence to 世界 semantically, therefore I think the best translation is:

Even if the world's against me


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### Answer by username_1 on 2015-11-09. Score: 2

就算 even if

世界 the world

与 and

我 I

为 as, being

敌 enemies

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: Is 就算 here interchangeable with 即使 and/or 那怕？  
> **username_1**: @username_2: yes I believe so.  

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### Answer by username_3 on 2015-11-09. Score: 1

Although username_1 username_1 has already answered it correctly, I'm just making it more clear, hope u understand, :)

In this case:

Even if = 就算
the world = 世界

became / enemy / with / me
为 / 敌 / 与 / 我


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### Answer by username_4 on 2015-11-10. Score: 0

世界与我为敌 here means "the world and me are hostile". 敌 is not a noun here, in fact it's an adjective in my opinion, 敌对的 in Chinese.

If the phrase is "世界**以**我为敌", then the 敌 would be a noun means enemy.


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