<p>I suggest we have a look at some Chinese dictionaries.</p>
<p>现代汉语规范词典 (GF) has this:</p>
<pre><code>弊端
bìduān 
名 由于制度上或工作中的漏洞而引发的有害的事情
管理不严酿成弊端。
</code></pre>
<p>I don't find this particularly helpful. Whereas 现代汉语大词典 (XHD) has this:</p>
<pre><code>弊端
bì duān 
1 弊病产生的原因。如：消除弊端。
2 弊病。如：种种弊端, 不胜枚举。
</code></pre>
<p>My TL;DR translation is: &quot;that which causes 弊病; 弊病&quot; (omitting the sample sentences which again aren't so helpful here). So this definition is based around 弊病. From this we can fairly safely say that 弊病 and 弊端 have similar meanings and are near-synonyms (近义词). It turns out that CC-CEDICT has this for 弊病:</p>
<pre><code>弊病
bìbìng
1 malady
2 evil
3 malpractice
4 drawback
5 disadvantage
</code></pre>
<p>And so we have both meanings: drawback/disadvantage, and malpractice.
My conclusion is that here we have some 弊端/shortcomings in both the HSK 6 definitions and in CC-CEDICT.
It seems that 弊端 is poorly translated in general. The only Western dictionary I have on my Pleco that has both of these meanings is CC-CFDICT (Chinese to French).</p>
<p><strong>Edit (2021-03-27)</strong>: The CC-CEDICT definition has been updated. The <a href="https://cc-cedict.org/editor/editor.php?handler=QueryDictionary&amp;querydictionary_search=bi4duan" rel="nofollow noreferrer">new definition</a> is simply: &quot;systemic problem (sometimes refers specifically to corrupt practices)&quot;. The CC-CEDICT  editor gave some interesting analysis in the <a href="https://cc-cedict.org/editor/editor.php?log_id=71926&amp;popup=1&amp;handler=ViewLogEntry" rel="nofollow noreferrer">change log</a> for the updated CC-CEDICT definition, and commented: &quot;
I think our current definition was probably adequate for the way 弊端 was used 50 or 60 years ago, but the meaning has evidently become broader over recent decades, and dictionaries haven't kept up with the change.&quot;</p>

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That is absolutely fascinating!
Becky 李蓓
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goPlayerJuggler
<p>Roughly speaking, 弊 means bad and 端 means point, so 弊端 is bad point, ie disadvantage/drawback.</p>
<p>It seems that the CC-CEDICT translation as you quoted is using a word with narrower sense to translate a word with a broader sense. &quot;Malpractice / abuse / corrupt practice&quot; may be bad points, but surely not all bad points are &quot;malpractice / abuse / corrupt practice&quot;. IMHO, the CC-CEDICT translation is understandable but not very accurate.</p>

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Betty
<p>The <em>HSK Standard Course 6上</em> textbook (p.45) definition for 弊端 is inconsistent with the definition from CC-CEDICT:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>HSK6上: n. <strong>disadvantage, drawback</strong><br />
<a href="https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?wdqb=%E5%BC%8A%E7%AB%AF" rel="nofollow noreferrer">CC-CEDICT</a>: <strong>malpractice / abuse / corrupt practice</strong></p>
</blockquote>
<p>The sentence they use is:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>我的学习方式绝对对学习效果有利，当然<strong>弊端</strong>也不少：有利的方面如上所说，<strong>弊端</strong>在于高兴了拼命学一阵子，不高兴了就搁在一边。</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The above usage doesn't suit the translation &quot;malpractice&quot; etc.  The HSK6上 definition was re-used in <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ4DtHROgOU&amp;t=548" rel="nofollow noreferrer">this video</a>, with these examples:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>现行制度存在诸多<strong>弊端</strong>，已到非改不可的地步。<br />
疫情使殡葬行业原本就存在的诸多<strong>弊端</strong>浮出了水面。</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Here, 弊端 is translated to &quot;shortcomings&quot; and &quot;disadvantages&quot;, respectively.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>: How do we reconcile the different definitions for 弊端 in the HSK Standard Course 6上 and CC-CEDICT?</p>

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[baidu translator](https://fanyi.baidu.com/#zh/en/%E5%BC%8A%E7%AB%AF) has it both ways
小奥利奥
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It's so close, I would say "弊端" is "Some kind of weak point or shortcomings, and it will cause something bad situation". So if you say it is shortcomings or it is malpractice is similar, or they are in the same set, one of it is including another?
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How do we reconcile the different definitions for 弊端 in the HSK Standard Course 6上 ("disadvantage" etc.) and CC-CEDICT ("malpractice" etc.)?
# How do we reconcile the different definitions for 弊端 in the HSK Standard Course 6上 ("disadvantage" etc.) and CC-CEDICT ("malpractice" etc.)?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2021-02-02)

The *HSK Standard Course 6上* textbook (p.45) definition for 弊端 is inconsistent with the definition from CC-CEDICT:

> HSK6上: n. **disadvantage, drawback**  
> [CC-CEDICT](https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?wdqb=%E5%BC%8A%E7%AB%AF): **malpractice / abuse / corrupt practice**

The sentence they use is:

> 我的学习方式绝对对学习效果有利，当然**弊端**也不少：有利的方面如上所说，**弊端**在于高兴了拼命学一阵子，不高兴了就搁在一边。

The above usage doesn't suit the translation "malpractice" etc. The HSK6上 definition was re-used in [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ4DtHROgOU&t=548), with these examples:

> 现行制度存在诸多**弊端**，已到非改不可的地步。  
> 疫情使殡葬行业原本就存在的诸多**弊端**浮出了水面。

Here, 弊端 is translated to "shortcomings" and "disadvantages", respectively.

**Question**: How do we reconcile the different definitions for 弊端 in the HSK Standard Course 6上 and CC-CEDICT?

**Tags:** meaning, difference, word

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: [baidu translator](https://fanyi.baidu.com/#zh/en/%E5%BC%8A%E7%AB%AF) has it both ways  
> **username_2**: It's so close, I would say "弊端" is "Some kind of weak point or shortcomings, and it will cause something bad situation". So if you say it is shortcomings or it is malpractice is similar, or they are in the same set, one of it is including another?  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_3 on 2021-02-02. Score: 2 | Accepted answer

I suggest we have a look at some Chinese dictionaries.

现代汉语规范词典 (GF) has this:

```
弊端
bìduān 
名 由于制度上或工作中的漏洞而引发的有害的事情
管理不严酿成弊端。

```

I don't find this particularly helpful. Whereas 现代汉语大词典 (XHD) has this:

```
弊端
bì duān 
1 弊病产生的原因。如：消除弊端。
2 弊病。如：种种弊端, 不胜枚举。

```

My TL;DR translation is: "that which causes 弊病; 弊病" (omitting the sample sentences which again aren't so helpful here). So this definition is based around 弊病. From this we can fairly safely say that 弊病 and 弊端 have similar meanings and are near-synonyms (近义词). It turns out that CC-CEDICT has this for 弊病:

```
弊病
bìbìng
1 malady
2 evil
3 malpractice
4 drawback
5 disadvantage

```

And so we have both meanings: drawback/disadvantage, and malpractice.
My conclusion is that here we have some 弊端/shortcomings in both the HSK 6 definitions and in CC-CEDICT.
It seems that 弊端 is poorly translated in general. The only Western dictionary I have on my Pleco that has both of these meanings is CC-CFDICT (Chinese to French).

**Edit (2021-03-27)**: The CC-CEDICT definition has been updated. The [new definition](https://cc-cedict.org/editor/editor.php?handler=QueryDictionary&querydictionary_search=bi4duan) is simply: "systemic problem (sometimes refers specifically to corrupt practices)". The CC-CEDICT editor gave some interesting analysis in the [change log](https://cc-cedict.org/editor/editor.php?log_id=71926&popup=1&handler=ViewLogEntry) for the updated CC-CEDICT definition, and commented: "
I think our current definition was probably adequate for the way 弊端 was used 50 or 60 years ago, but the meaning has evidently become broader over recent decades, and dictionaries haven't kept up with the change."

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: That is absolutely fascinating!  

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### Answer by username_4 on 2021-02-03. Score: 1

Roughly speaking, 弊 means bad and 端 means point, so 弊端 is bad point, ie disadvantage/drawback.

It seems that the CC-CEDICT translation as you quoted is using a word with narrower sense to translate a word with a broader sense. "Malpractice / abuse / corrupt practice" may be bad points, but surely not all bad points are "malpractice / abuse / corrupt practice". IMHO, the CC-CEDICT translation is understandable but not very accurate.


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