<p>In my opinion, the term 个人主义 might be a valid direct translation of the word individualism, but I don't think it always conveys the same meaning. </p>

<p>The suffix <strong>主义</strong> in Chinese hints to an actual ideology or ideological system. Whereas in English it can have a narrower application, as you can call an individualist someone who lives an independent life. So that would be 独立。</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>西方人比中国人独立很多 <br>
  Westerners are more individualists than the Chinese. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>Perhaps you can argue that 独立 here is used as an euphemism but what they mean is actually "individualist", which - also in English - means an independent person who doesn't need much support from others without being maliciously selfish. </p>

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Said word is supposed to translate as *selfishness* tho
Mou某
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@user3306356 which word?
blackgreen
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The original quote said: "In Chinese, there isn’t a word for individualism (the nearest they have translates to ‘selfishness’.)"
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blackgreen
<p>I don't think that author's statement is accurate. The opposite of individualism (个人主义) is collectivism (集体主义). Individualism becomes a bad word in China only because of the ruling of the Communist party. Because the Communists are absolutely collectivists and totally against individual thinking and actions, so they call lots of bad things on individualism. Selfishness is just one of them.</p>

<p>However, the communist China is not the same as China. Chinese communists are not the same as Chinese. When people talk about Chinese cultural, usually they mean Confucianism, which is obviously not Communism.</p>

<p>Under Confucianism, it is true that the family, community, and the state is important, but it never says anything indicating that individual means nothing. Actually the moral value of individuals is important in Confucianism. In a corrupted system, maintaining your own moral value , holding on to your belief, and not letting the environment corrupt you is called 独善其身. Is this a form of individualism? No Confucian will ever tell you just blindly follow the leader, or do what ever the leader tell you to do, or always sacrifice yourself for the good of the group.</p>

<p>For more details, you can read:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.chinausfocus.com/culture-history/confucius-more-individualistic-than-you-think" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.chinausfocus.com/culture-history/confucius-more-individualistic-than-you-think</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.iep.utm.edu/ind-chin/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http://www.iep.utm.edu/ind-chin/</a></li>
</ul>

<p>So, no, in Chinese individualism does not mean selfishness, if you can differentiate the Communist China from China.</p>

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<p>I am going to throw in another word: 个性, which is <em>not</em> an exact translation of "individualism" (it doesn't contain the "-ism" part), but it imparts uniqueness of an individual and it is not as abstract-sounding <em>in Chinese</em> as "个人主义" (which is often used as the equivalent to "individualism".)</p>

<p>So the usage would be: "So and So 有个性".</p>

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YCode
<p>yes, you are right. In Chinese selfishness is 自私</p>

<p>On the other hand, individualism is 个人主义</p>

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<p>In his book <em>Selfie</em> Will Storr claims that:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>In Chinese, there isn’t a word for individualism (the nearest they have translates to ‘selfishness’.)</p>
</blockquote>

<p>I’m pretty sure there is a, modern, word for individualism and it is:</p>

<ul>
<li>个人主义</li>
</ul>

<p>and I’m also pretty sure it doesn’t translate to selfishness.</p>

<p>His concept is a good one and I would love to buy into it, but I’m not really seeing it.</p>

<p>Any ideas?</p>

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Is there really no word for individualism in Chinese?
# Is there really no word for individualism in Chinese?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-12-14)

In his book *Selfie* Will Storr claims that:

> In Chinese, there isn’t a word for individualism (the nearest they have translates to ‘selfishness’.)

I’m pretty sure there is a, modern, word for individualism and it is:

* 个人主义

and I’m also pretty sure it doesn’t translate to selfishness.

His concept is a good one and I would love to buy into it, but I’m not really seeing it.

Any ideas?

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## 4 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2017-12-18. Score: 3 | Accepted answer

In my opinion, the term 个人主义 might be a valid direct translation of the word individualism, but I don't think it always conveys the same meaning.

The suffix **主义** in Chinese hints to an actual ideology or ideological system. Whereas in English it can have a narrower application, as you can call an individualist someone who lives an independent life. So that would be 独立。

> 西方人比中国人独立很多   
> Westerners are more individualists than the Chinese.

Perhaps you can argue that 独立 here is used as an euphemism but what they mean is actually "individualist", which - also in English - means an independent person who doesn't need much support from others without being maliciously selfish.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Said word is supposed to translate as *selfishness* tho  
> **username_1**: @user3306356 which word?  
> **username_0**: The original quote said: "In Chinese, there isn’t a word for individualism (the nearest they have translates to ‘selfishness’.)"  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2018-01-02. Score: -1

I don't think that author's statement is accurate. The opposite of individualism (个人主义) is collectivism (集体主义). Individualism becomes a bad word in China only because of the ruling of the Communist party. Because the Communists are absolutely collectivists and totally against individual thinking and actions, so they call lots of bad things on individualism. Selfishness is just one of them.

However, the communist China is not the same as China. Chinese communists are not the same as Chinese. When people talk about Chinese cultural, usually they mean Confucianism, which is obviously not Communism.

Under Confucianism, it is true that the family, community, and the state is important, but it never says anything indicating that individual means nothing. Actually the moral value of individuals is important in Confucianism. In a corrupted system, maintaining your own moral value , holding on to your belief, and not letting the environment corrupt you is called 独善其身. Is this a form of individualism? No Confucian will ever tell you just blindly follow the leader, or do what ever the leader tell you to do, or always sacrifice yourself for the good of the group.

For more details, you can read:

* <https://www.chinausfocus.com/culture-history/confucius-more-individualistic-than-you-think>
* <http://www.iep.utm.edu/ind-chin/>

So, no, in Chinese individualism does not mean selfishness, if you can differentiate the Communist China from China.


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### Answer by username_3 on 2017-12-30. Score: -1

I am going to throw in another word: 个性, which is *not* an exact translation of "individualism" (it doesn't contain the "-ism" part), but it imparts uniqueness of an individual and it is not as abstract-sounding *in Chinese* as "个人主义" (which is often used as the equivalent to "individualism".)

So the usage would be: "So and So 有个性".


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### Answer by username_4 on 2017-12-16. Score: -1

yes, you are right. In Chinese selfishness is 自私

On the other hand, individualism is 个人主义


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