<p>The Himalayas are indeed rising, but they are also being eroded at a comparable rate. It will come as no surprise to anyone that the maximum possible height of a mountain on Earth is only marginally higher than Mt Everest, that is probably about 9000 to 10,000 metres high. There are, of course compressive / convergent plate boundaries where there is a <em>potential</em>  tendencey to build higher mountains, but non-linear counter processes kick in to counteract the mountain building. There are three processes, glacial erosion, shear collapse and lower crust / upper mantle plasticity. The latter is the most important. As lateral compression builds higher mountains, the mountain roots are depressed into the hot plastic region such that the mountain literally sinks under its own weight, deforming the root zone, sometimes in spectacular fashion. Go to Scotland, or Norway, where you can see the eroded remains of the long-gone Caledonides, and you can see the exposed and metamorphosed root zone of mountains that were once as big as the Himalayas. </p>

<p>In principle, the mountain would eventually collapse by shear failure, simply because the rock isn't strong enough to support the weight of gigantic mountains. In practice, deformation takes place before the shear failure is reached.</p>

<p>Then there are glaciers. The higher the mountain gets, the more rain  turns to snow, then to ice, which is a phenomenally effective erosive agent (just look at any of the worlds recently glaciated terrains - European Alps, Patagonian Alps, Norway, Alaska, New Zealand, etc., to see the spectacular erosion). This erosion peaks at a high altitude, but not at the very highest altitude, where the atmosphere is so cold that it cannot deliver much moisture - so very little snow. Result: glacial erosion takes bites out of the mountain at middle-upper elevations, thereby keeping the slopes steep, whence gravity collapse along pressure release joints, and other related processes. Hence occasional peaks get close to 9000 metres but, in geological terms, they don't last long before erosion brings them down. </p>

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2016-10-17T09:15:58.880Z
Can you bring some photos that illustrate the Caledonides point?
Anixx
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2016-10-17T09:33:29.450Z
@Anixx [Don't be lazy](https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1170&bih=771&q=Caledonides&oq=Caledonides&gs_l=img.3..0j0i24k1.1456.1456.0.2055.1.1.0.0.0.0.61.61.1.1.0....0...1ac..64.img..0.1.61.KsFp6RT48f0)
Jan Doggen
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2016-10-17T09:40:42.423Z
Well I already did so but I do not know which photos exactly illustrate your point.
Anixx
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I'm working in the Pacific at present, and don't have photos to hand. However, the British Geological Survey has plenty of good publications, such as "Northwest Highlands Mendum, J 2001  ISBN1853971391. But the best way to see what an ancient mountain root system looks like is to go for a long hike in the West Highlands of Scotland.
Gordon Stanger
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2016-10-18T10:15:40.450Z
@GordonStanger nice answer! Can you elaborate why "This erosion peaks at a high altitude"? Is it just because of the obvious colder temperatures it takes to maintain glaciation? For me it's a bit counter intuitive as I expect higher erosion rates in valleys, where the total ice flow and pressure is high and maybe combined with basal melting.
user2821
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2016-10-19T06:34:27.057Z
Glaciers are constantly moving downhill under gravity by plastic deformation of the ice. The moving ice is replaced by snow at high elevations (where it is sufficiently cold), which turns into firn, which turns into ice. The elevation of maximum precipitation varies with latitude, ocean-land configuration, and elevation of the tropopause. It is not linear. The precipitation increases with elevation up to the local maximum. Then the graph reflexes so that the precipitation decreases rapidly with further increased elevation. Below about -10 or -20 deg C the precipitable moisture is very small.
Gordon Stanger
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2016-10-19T06:37:27.657Z
Erosion takes place at the base of the ice at any elevation. It isn't so much the ice itself, but the rock fragments embedded in the ice which act as a rasp - until the ice melts at lower elevations.
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Gordon Stanger
<p>Himalayas are currently rising about 5 mm/year. What will be the highest point they can reach?</p>

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If I recall correctly, they're rising by geology but lowering by erosion, and they are more or less at the highest point they can reach.  I don't recall where I read or heard that and I don't know if that's established consensus or popular speculation.
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Himalayas are currently rising. What will be the highest point they can reach?
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# Himalayas are currently rising. What will be the highest point they can reach?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2016-10-17)

Himalayas are currently rising about 5 mm/year. What will be the highest point they can reach?

**Tags:** geology, plate-tectonics, mountains, tectonics

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: If I recall correctly, they're rising by geology but lowering by erosion, and they are more or less at the highest point they can reach.  I don't recall where I read or heard that and I don't know if that's established consensus or popular speculation.  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2016-10-17. Score: 10

The Himalayas are indeed rising, but they are also being eroded at a comparable rate. It will come as no surprise to anyone that the maximum possible height of a mountain on Earth is only marginally higher than Mt Everest, that is probably about 9000 to 10,000 metres high. There are, of course compressive / convergent plate boundaries where there is a *potential* tendencey to build higher mountains, but non-linear counter processes kick in to counteract the mountain building. There are three processes, glacial erosion, shear collapse and lower crust / upper mantle plasticity. The latter is the most important. As lateral compression builds higher mountains, the mountain roots are depressed into the hot plastic region such that the mountain literally sinks under its own weight, deforming the root zone, sometimes in spectacular fashion. Go to Scotland, or Norway, where you can see the eroded remains of the long-gone Caledonides, and you can see the exposed and metamorphosed root zone of mountains that were once as big as the Himalayas.

In principle, the mountain would eventually collapse by shear failure, simply because the rock isn't strong enough to support the weight of gigantic mountains. In practice, deformation takes place before the shear failure is reached.

Then there are glaciers. The higher the mountain gets, the more rain turns to snow, then to ice, which is a phenomenally effective erosive agent (just look at any of the worlds recently glaciated terrains - European Alps, Patagonian Alps, Norway, Alaska, New Zealand, etc., to see the spectacular erosion). This erosion peaks at a high altitude, but not at the very highest altitude, where the atmosphere is so cold that it cannot deliver much moisture - so very little snow. Result: glacial erosion takes bites out of the mountain at middle-upper elevations, thereby keeping the slopes steep, whence gravity collapse along pressure release joints, and other related processes. Hence occasional peaks get close to 9000 metres but, in geological terms, they don't last long before erosion brings them down.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Can you bring some photos that illustrate the Caledonides point?  
> **username_3**: @username_0 [Don't be lazy](https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1170&bih=771&q=Caledonides&oq=Caledonides&gs_l=img.3..0j0i24k1.1456.1456.0.2055.1.1.0.0.0.0.61.61.1.1.0....0...1ac..64.img..0.1.61.KsFp6RT48f0)  
> **username_0**: Well I already did so but I do not know which photos exactly illustrate your point.  
> **username_2**: I'm working in the Pacific at present, and don't have photos to hand. However, the British Geological Survey has plenty of good publications, such as "Northwest Highlands Mendum, J 2001  ISBN1853971391. But the best way to see what an ancient mountain root system looks like is to go for a long hike in the West Highlands of Scotland.  
> **username_4**: @username_2 nice answer! Can you elaborate why "This erosion peaks at a high altitude"? Is it just because of the obvious colder temperatures it takes to maintain glaciation? For me it's a bit counter intuitive as I expect higher erosion rates in valleys, where the total ice flow and pressure is high and maybe combined with basal melting.  
> **username_2**: Glaciers are constantly moving downhill under gravity by plastic deformation of the ice. The moving ice is replaced by snow at high elevations (where it is sufficiently cold), which turns into firn, which turns into ice. The elevation of maximum precipitation varies with latitude, ocean-land configuration, and elevation of the tropopause. It is not linear. The precipitation increases with elevation up to the local maximum. Then the graph reflexes so that the precipitation decreases rapidly with further increased elevation. Below about -10 or -20 deg C the precipitable moisture is very small.  
> **username_2**: Erosion takes place at the base of the ice at any elevation. It isn't so much the ice itself, but the rock fragments embedded in the ice which act as a rasp - until the ice melts at lower elevations.  

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