<p>you might have guessed: There is no such an easy answer as a precise, always valid maximum grain size.</p>

<p>Point counting is an upscaling technique. It works when the sample area you inspect is >= to the so-called representative elementary area (REA) of the rock facies. The larger your grains, the larger needs the REA to be. Same holds true for increasing heterogeniety and increasing number of mineral phases.
So check if your point count analysis is changing when you increase the inspection area. Once the analysis comes to a stable ratio of analysed items, you found the REA of the rock facies. This REA is a material property and not depending on the step size you choosed (as long as you make sure to obey the law of large numbers for each area).</p>

<p>-> look for "REA"</p>

<p>Best,
Ben</p>

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I am using standard geological thin sections. So the maximum area that I have to work with is limited by the size of the section. So my question applies to the maximum grain size that can be point counted given that the normal size of a rock thin section is approx. 24 x 46 mm.
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<p>Point counting is an extremely useful tool for determining the composition of a clastic sedimentary rock. It is also very useful in provenance studies to determine the sediment source of a sedimentary rock (see, for example, the classic paper by Dickenson and Suczek, 1979). The theory behind point counting is straight forward. For me, putting it into practice has been challenging because I cannot find the "definitive guide to point counting". I know the general rule is 300-500 points per slide and that the step size should be 1.5 x grain size (although <a href="http://ws2.petrog.com/point_counting.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> company says otherwise).  But what is the maximum grain size one can analyse on thin section before the counting becomes statistically unrepresentative?</p>

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What is the maximum grain size of a sediment that can be point counted using a standard thin section?
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# What is the maximum grain size of a sediment that can be point counted using a standard thin section?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2016-06-14)

Point counting is an extremely useful tool for determining the composition of a clastic sedimentary rock. It is also very useful in provenance studies to determine the sediment source of a sedimentary rock (see, for example, the classic paper by Dickenson and Suczek, 1979). The theory behind point counting is straight forward. For me, putting it into practice has been challenging because I cannot find the "definitive guide to point counting". I know the general rule is 300-500 points per slide and that the step size should be 1.5 x grain size (although [this](http://ws2.petrog.com/point_counting.html) company says otherwise). But what is the maximum grain size one can analyse on thin section before the counting becomes statistically unrepresentative?

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### Answer by username_1 on 2016-06-15. Score: 4

you might have guessed: There is no such an easy answer as a precise, always valid maximum grain size.

Point counting is an upscaling technique. It works when the sample area you inspect is >= to the so-called representative elementary area (REA) of the rock facies. The larger your grains, the larger needs the REA to be. Same holds true for increasing heterogeniety and increasing number of mineral phases.
So check if your point count analysis is changing when you increase the inspection area. Once the analysis comes to a stable ratio of analysed items, you found the REA of the rock facies. This REA is a material property and not depending on the step size you choosed (as long as you make sure to obey the law of large numbers for each area).

-> look for "REA"

Best,
Ben

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: I am using standard geological thin sections. So the maximum area that I have to work with is limited by the size of the section. So my question applies to the maximum grain size that can be point counted given that the normal size of a rock thin section is approx. 24 x 46 mm.  

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