<p>What you are observing is called anecdotal weather observations.  I will address it in a number of points, none of which many people will agree with, but so be it.</p>

<p>2-3 years is weather, not climate.  Climate is measured in millennia, not days.  Historical averages are measured, well historically, which for most locations in the US is 50-300 years.  During those years, methods of measurement have changed, so historical numbers may also have glitches in them, such as the the highest US temperature ever recorded is still in dispute because of how it was measured.  But historical averages are calculated from all of those years, ones with droughts, unseasonable cold fronts, and so on.  Warming patterns which are the basis for global warming studies are based on looking at all this data, plus many years of indirect data from ice cores, tree rings, sediment deposits, and many other sources, not from 2 years of personal study.</p>

<p>It is routine to have years that are outside of the average, that is what averages are.  It is also human nature to amplify the variation and see extremes.  I did not go that far back, and I used only one source, but I looked at a little recent recorded data for Clearwater.  I took daily numbers and went with variations to the daily average temp for that date.  For Aug 2017, there are 8 days available thus, and the daily lows have been recorded as +17 degrees to average, or +2.15 degrees.  For 2016 back to 2013 you get +27, -2, +24 and +7 for Aug, or as an average daily difference about +0.87, -0.06, +0.77 and +0.23 with a average for the 4+ years of +0.38 to average.  Only the partial month for 2017 exceeds 1 degree variance to average.</p>

<p>July numbers are, starting with 2017, 41, 37, -29, 13, -31 or in daily variations +1.32, +1.19, -0.94, +0.42, -1.00 for a 5 year average of +0.20.  Although the last two July's have exceeded the plus one degree variance, two of the prior three were almost the opposite.  That is weather and normal variation.  To get to climate numbers requires looking at those patterns over centuries, not over a couple years.</p>

<p>Trust me, I am not refuting global warming.  I am however refuting using such anecdotal observations as a bases for the claims.  Weather patterns work in cycles, and before climate change claims can be made the cycles must be accounted for.  When a location has an especially hot day, or month and references are made to global warming, it make that side of the argument look silly.  When a blizzard occurs, there is a record low, or an seemingly especially cold day, and the deniers point and chant global warming and laugh, they may also feel they scored points, but under statistical analysis they look silly as well.</p>

<p>I do not claim the above to be a statistical analysis.  I also did not cherry pick data, I simply only had time or willingness to do a quick 5 years.  That was more than enough to see yearly variations and demonstrate that a perceived variation of 4-5 degrees is actually 1, and 1 degree is still within typical yearly variation.  To make a real claim requires a pattern of trending real variation in a continuing upward direction and that require rigorous and systematic data collection and analysis.</p>

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I agree that 3 years isn't climate, but in climate change studies 30 year periods are already considered as climate (as you refer to millennial times). Also if you use a source remember to refer to it.
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<p>Look up Clearwater Florida on Wikipedia and it gives you the average low for the Months of July and August as being 74.2F. About 3-4 years ago I picked up running as a main hobby and the temperature is the biggest factor determining my speed every day. Since then Ive been following the temperature and I am sure that for the last 2-3 years at least the daily low has been 78F to 82F for a mean of about 80F.</p>

<p>Why is the recent average lows for July and August so much warmer than the historical average?</p>

<p>Is this just a recent trend due to El Nino or some other weather pattern?</p>

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Ever hear of global warming?  Or it's quite possible that where you're running is warmer than where the temperature measurments are made,
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You should check the records for the highest low, and compare that to your recent years.  Comparing to the historical average doesn't really mean all too much.
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Why has the average low for the hottest months in Clearwater Florida about 5 degrees higher than the historical average?
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# Why has the average low for the hottest months in Clearwater Florida about 5 degrees higher than the historical average?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-08-09)

Look up Clearwater Florida on Wikipedia and it gives you the average low for the Months of July and August as being 74.2F. About 3-4 years ago I picked up running as a main hobby and the temperature is the biggest factor determining my speed every day. Since then Ive been following the temperature and I am sure that for the last 2-3 years at least the daily low has been 78F to 82F for a mean of about 80F.

Why is the recent average lows for July and August so much warmer than the historical average?

Is this just a recent trend due to El Nino or some other weather pattern?

**Tags:** meteorology, climate-change, climate, temperature, climate-models

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Ever hear of global warming?  Or it's quite possible that where you're running is warmer than where the temperature measurments are made,  
> **username_2**: You should check the records for the highest low, and compare that to your recent years.  Comparing to the historical average doesn't really mean all too much.  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_3 on 2017-08-09. Score: 2

What you are observing is called anecdotal weather observations. I will address it in a number of points, none of which many people will agree with, but so be it.

2-3 years is weather, not climate. Climate is measured in millennia, not days. Historical averages are measured, well historically, which for most locations in the US is 50-300 years. During those years, methods of measurement have changed, so historical numbers may also have glitches in them, such as the the highest US temperature ever recorded is still in dispute because of how it was measured. But historical averages are calculated from all of those years, ones with droughts, unseasonable cold fronts, and so on. Warming patterns which are the basis for global warming studies are based on looking at all this data, plus many years of indirect data from ice cores, tree rings, sediment deposits, and many other sources, not from 2 years of personal study.

It is routine to have years that are outside of the average, that is what averages are. It is also human nature to amplify the variation and see extremes. I did not go that far back, and I used only one source, but I looked at a little recent recorded data for Clearwater. I took daily numbers and went with variations to the daily average temp for that date. For Aug 2017, there are 8 days available thus, and the daily lows have been recorded as +17 degrees to average, or +2.15 degrees. For 2016 back to 2013 you get +27, -2, +24 and +7 for Aug, or as an average daily difference about +0.87, -0.06, +0.77 and +0.23 with a average for the 4+ years of +0.38 to average. Only the partial month for 2017 exceeds 1 degree variance to average.

July numbers are, starting with 2017, 41, 37, -29, 13, -31 or in daily variations +1.32, +1.19, -0.94, +0.42, -1.00 for a 5 year average of +0.20. Although the last two July's have exceeded the plus one degree variance, two of the prior three were almost the opposite. That is weather and normal variation. To get to climate numbers requires looking at those patterns over centuries, not over a couple years.

Trust me, I am not refuting global warming. I am however refuting using such anecdotal observations as a bases for the claims. Weather patterns work in cycles, and before climate change claims can be made the cycles must be accounted for. When a location has an especially hot day, or month and references are made to global warming, it make that side of the argument look silly. When a blizzard occurs, there is a record low, or an seemingly especially cold day, and the deniers point and chant global warming and laugh, they may also feel they scored points, but under statistical analysis they look silly as well.

I do not claim the above to be a statistical analysis. I also did not cherry pick data, I simply only had time or willingness to do a quick 5 years. That was more than enough to see yearly variations and demonstrate that a perceived variation of 4-5 degrees is actually 1, and 1 degree is still within typical yearly variation. To make a real claim requires a pattern of trending real variation in a continuing upward direction and that require rigorous and systematic data collection and analysis.

> **Comments:**
> **username_4**: I agree that 3 years isn't climate, but in climate change studies 30 year periods are already considered as climate (as you refer to millennial times). Also if you use a source remember to refer to it.  

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