<p>Yes, it would be possible for a tropical cyclone to form over &quot;land&quot; in extreme circumstances. Tropical Storm Claudette of 2021 is a notable example of the phenomena known as the &quot;brown ocean effect&quot;. It formed over &quot;land&quot; areas of Southeastern Louisiana, which is a lot of marshy, swampy areas. The actual areas of land helped tighten the circulation enough for classification as a tropical storm (the disturbance was already producing gale force winds 12 hours or so prior to this point).  The disturbance was already nearly a tropical cyclone before reaching Southeast Louisiana, with deep convection. However, the low pressure system was broadly organized, which the brown ocean effect tightened it up just enough. It is an interesting scenario and stuff like that is tricky to forecast.</p>

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2022-06-12T13:32:09.077Z
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Wyatt Huber
<p>No, it isn't possible for cyclones, hurricanes and typhoons, which are all different names for the same thing, to form over land. Storms can form over land, but not hurricanes, which draw their power from the sun-warmed ocean and rapidly lose their strength when they hit land. The power of a typical hurricane is immense, probably in excess of 50 megatons, which was the yield of the largest hydrogen bomb ever tested (by Russia).</p>

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2019-08-26T20:27:30.100Z
Oh, I know cyclonic storms, hurricanes, and typhoons are names for tropical cyclones. But as I mentioned, it's not universal that they rapidly lose strength over land. Some have even intensified, like Fay (At 08), Julia (At 16), and Kevin (Au 18), for example. This is understandable, as the power that can be generated from the latent heat of wet ground is _greater_ than from the ocean (though over a shorter time). Also, land-based systems often migrate to the ocean and form into tropical cyclones, so I hypothesized that a similar thing could happen over a "brown ocean" in favorable conditions.
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2019-08-25T07:05:50.287Z
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Michael Walsby
<p>Most tropical cyclones rapidly weaken over land, however, given some conditions (such as very wet soil/ground cover and tropical lower atmospheric conditions) they can sustain themselves or even intensify over land, in a phenomenon known as the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_ocean_effect" rel="noreferrer">brown ocean effect</a>. So, is it at all possible for extreme "brown ocean" conditions or other potential factors to result in not only the maintenance but the <em>formation</em> of a tropical cyclone over land, either from an extratropical system or not? The intensity and duration of time that the storm would last without transitioning to water is irrelevant—even a few hours at tropical storm levels would be a yes.</p>

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Is there any possible way that a tropical cyclone of any strength could form over land?
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# Is there any possible way that a tropical cyclone of any strength could form over land?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2019-08-24)

Most tropical cyclones rapidly weaken over land, however, given some conditions (such as very wet soil/ground cover and tropical lower atmospheric conditions) they can sustain themselves or even intensify over land, in a phenomenon known as the [brown ocean effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_ocean_effect). So, is it at all possible for extreme "brown ocean" conditions or other potential factors to result in not only the maintenance but the *formation* of a tropical cyclone over land, either from an extratropical system or not? The intensity and duration of time that the storm would last without transitioning to water is irrelevant—even a few hours at tropical storm levels would be a yes.

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### Answer by username_1 on 2022-06-12. Score: 2

Yes, it would be possible for a tropical cyclone to form over "land" in extreme circumstances. Tropical Storm Claudette of 2021 is a notable example of the phenomena known as the "brown ocean effect". It formed over "land" areas of Southeastern Louisiana, which is a lot of marshy, swampy areas. The actual areas of land helped tighten the circulation enough for classification as a tropical storm (the disturbance was already producing gale force winds 12 hours or so prior to this point). The disturbance was already nearly a tropical cyclone before reaching Southeast Louisiana, with deep convection. However, the low pressure system was broadly organized, which the brown ocean effect tightened it up just enough. It is an interesting scenario and stuff like that is tricky to forecast.


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### Answer by username_2 on 2019-08-25. Score: 2

No, it isn't possible for cyclones, hurricanes and typhoons, which are all different names for the same thing, to form over land. Storms can form over land, but not hurricanes, which draw their power from the sun-warmed ocean and rapidly lose their strength when they hit land. The power of a typical hurricane is immense, probably in excess of 50 megatons, which was the yield of the largest hydrogen bomb ever tested (by Russia).

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Oh, I know cyclonic storms, hurricanes, and typhoons are names for tropical cyclones. But as I mentioned, it's not universal that they rapidly lose strength over land. Some have even intensified, like Fay (At 08), Julia (At 16), and Kevin (Au 18), for example. This is understandable, as the power that can be generated from the latent heat of wet ground is _greater_ than from the ocean (though over a shorter time). Also, land-based systems often migrate to the ocean and form into tropical cyclones, so I hypothesized that a similar thing could happen over a "brown ocean" in favorable conditions.  

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