<p>I would say that different authors might want to distinguish deep convective mixing with entrainment from purely diffusive or gravity wave-driven mixing. Deep mixing occurs mainly within certain zones (around Antarctica, and in the Labrador sea) because it requires a very strong cooling of the surface to trigger convection. Diffusive or gravity wave-breaking mixing can occur anywhere. Diffusion could include direct processes (like double-diffusion or "salt fingering") or indirect processes such as cabbeling or thermobaricity. If their budgets are based on models, these classes of processes are likely output separately anyway, so it's an easy division to make.</p>

<p>I would break it down as follows, with an eye toward model output:</p>

<ol>
<li>Vertical advection comes from the advection by <em>resolved or implied</em> vertical velocity. This would include Ekman pumping and any other vertical velocity you might get from an omega-equation.</li>
<li>Entrainment-detrainment comes from convective processes. These require special handling, since many ocean models until recently would not resolve these processes. (They might occur in areas that are only a few kilometers in width, far below the lateral resolution.) These processes can mix together entire parts of the water column at once and often do not care about vertical gradients; they are "non-local".</li>
<li>Diffusive processes are very local/small-scale and depend on vertical gradients of heat and salt. Cabbeling, thermobaricity, and double diffusion are some examples. I include gravity wave-driven mixing here because although the gravity wave generation process is non-local, when they break they can only mix locally within the water column.</li>
</ol>

<p>This kind of breakdown makes sense for a global ocean model, where these three things are handled by three separate modules. For super-hi-res regional models and non-hydrostatic models, advection and convection start to merge together, and if the model is truly eddy-resolving, entrainment becomes a mix of advection followed by diffusion. How you budget these processes depends on the spatial and temporal scales of the model. </p>

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2018-07-17T08:44:42.700Z
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Jareth Holt
<p>In analyses of mixed layer heat budget analysis, authors of different papers have considered the contribution of vertical mixing in different ways. </p>

<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/Ka6R8.png" rel="noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Ka6R8.png" alt="breakdown of vertical subsurface process contribution: net vertical subsurface processes (blue,"></a></p>

<p>Halkides and Lee (2011) have considered entrainment, vertical advection and vertical mixing as components of subsurface processes indicating that entrainment and vertical mixing are different processes.</p>

<p>Foltz et a. (2010) on the other hand explain that turbulent entrainment and turbulent diffusion are processes involved in vertical turbulent mixing. This paper indicates that entrainment is a part of vertical turbulent mixing. </p>

<p>Please explain the difference between entrainment and vertical mixing if at all they are different processes.</p>

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2018-07-13T23:57:21.423Z
This isn't my field so sorry if this is obvious, but what does "vertical advection" mean? I thought advection was generally the term used to describe horizontal/lateral movement in a convection cell.
g.z.
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2018-07-14T19:32:54.670Z
No problem. Vertical advection is the process due to Ekman pumping. In the region of interest, the south west tropical Indian ocean, it contributes to cooling when the thermocline is raised through upwelling.
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What is the difference between vertical turbulent entrainment and turbulent diffusion in the ocean?
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# What is the difference between vertical turbulent entrainment and turbulent diffusion in the ocean?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-07-12)

In analyses of mixed layer heat budget analysis, authors of different papers have considered the contribution of vertical mixing in different ways.

[![breakdown of vertical subsurface process contribution: net vertical subsurface processes (blue,](https://i.sstatic.net/Ka6R8.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/Ka6R8.png)

Halkides and Lee (2011) have considered entrainment, vertical advection and vertical mixing as components of subsurface processes indicating that entrainment and vertical mixing are different processes.

Foltz et a. (2010) on the other hand explain that turbulent entrainment and turbulent diffusion are processes involved in vertical turbulent mixing. This paper indicates that entrainment is a part of vertical turbulent mixing.

Please explain the difference between entrainment and vertical mixing if at all they are different processes.

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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: This isn't my field so sorry if this is obvious, but what does "vertical advection" mean? I thought advection was generally the term used to describe horizontal/lateral movement in a convection cell.  
> **username_0**: No problem. Vertical advection is the process due to Ekman pumping. In the region of interest, the south west tropical Indian ocean, it contributes to cooling when the thermocline is raised through upwelling.  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2018-07-17. Score: 6 | Accepted answer

I would say that different authors might want to distinguish deep convective mixing with entrainment from purely diffusive or gravity wave-driven mixing. Deep mixing occurs mainly within certain zones (around Antarctica, and in the Labrador sea) because it requires a very strong cooling of the surface to trigger convection. Diffusive or gravity wave-breaking mixing can occur anywhere. Diffusion could include direct processes (like double-diffusion or "salt fingering") or indirect processes such as cabbeling or thermobaricity. If their budgets are based on models, these classes of processes are likely output separately anyway, so it's an easy division to make.

I would break it down as follows, with an eye toward model output:

1. Vertical advection comes from the advection by *resolved or implied* vertical velocity. This would include Ekman pumping and any other vertical velocity you might get from an omega-equation.
2. Entrainment-detrainment comes from convective processes. These require special handling, since many ocean models until recently would not resolve these processes. (They might occur in areas that are only a few kilometers in width, far below the lateral resolution.) These processes can mix together entire parts of the water column at once and often do not care about vertical gradients; they are "non-local".
3. Diffusive processes are very local/small-scale and depend on vertical gradients of heat and salt. Cabbeling, thermobaricity, and double diffusion are some examples. I include gravity wave-driven mixing here because although the gravity wave generation process is non-local, when they break they can only mix locally within the water column.

This kind of breakdown makes sense for a global ocean model, where these three things are handled by three separate modules. For super-hi-res regional models and non-hydrostatic models, advection and convection start to merge together, and if the model is truly eddy-resolving, entrainment becomes a mix of advection followed by diffusion. How you budget these processes depends on the spatial and temporal scales of the model.


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