<p>The clouds can be seen moving but of course it's subtle at first glance.</p>

<pre><code>Frame 16:
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<pre><code>Frame 20:
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2017-01-24T20:25:02.880Z
Nice spotting! I was searching for tiny movements myself but with the low frame rate I wasn't sure if my eyes were playing tricks on me.

I appreciate you taking the time to hunt down a relatively noticeable change!
Chris Parton
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2017-01-24T21:06:44.830Z
It can be hard to tell which changes are actual movement, and which are due to the perspective changes from rotation.
Barmar
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2017-01-25T13:26:47.427Z
@Barmar I agree but I took frames that are very close together to reduce that effect (20 is the last frame). I also chose this area because one area can be observed thinning which is not likely to be perspective.
Adam Caviness
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2017-01-27T01:58:59.173Z
The "foot" of the sphinx-shaped cloud that ends right near the reflection of the sun changes quite a lot. As does the cloud just south-west of the hole-in-the-clouds that the moon passes under.
naught101
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2017-01-24T17:31:38.543Z
2017-01-24T17:31:38.543Z
Adam Caviness
<p><strong>The image is real, and the clouds are moving</strong>, they just move slow, as clouds do.
The unnatural appearance arise because they are taken by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Space_Climate_Observatory" rel="nofollow noreferrer">DSCOVR</a> at an extraordinarily large  distance, from a place called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_point" rel="nofollow noreferrer">L1</a>, more than <strong>one million kilometers away!!!</strong>.
The rotation of the Earth in the animation makes it difficult to distinguish the movement of the clouds, but if you just track one single area as shown in the animation below, the movements of the clouds becomes evident:</p>

<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/84XnY.gif" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/84XnY.gif" alt="enter image description here"></a></p>

<p>The zoom area shown in the right was extracted from the circled area in the left.
For the above animation I downloaded the original frames at high resolution from <a href="https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a010000/a011900/a011971/index.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">here</a>. The resolution was reduced so that it is smaller than the limit of SE (2MB), but you can see it at full resolution <a href="https://i.imgur.com/EcuKxBB.gifv" rel="nofollow noreferrer">here</a>.</p>

<p>Here you can see a closeup on the cropped section:</p>

<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/BaGIi.gif" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/BaGIi.gif" alt="enter image description here"></a></p>

<p>The changes and movements of the clouds are quite obvious now. Aren't they?</p>

<p>The overall deformation is mostly due to perspective changes as Earth's rotates, but it is clear how some clouds change, and some dissolve completely during the video, like the elongated one in the upper left corner of the cloudless patch shown in the crop. If you put attention the vanishing of that cloud can be seen in the original video.</p>

<p>Another effect that might make the image looks weird, is the fact that the images used for the red, green and blue channels of the image are taken 30 seconds apart, and due to the displacement of the Earth and specially the Moon during that period, it creates an edge effect that is very clear in the full resolution image and might contribute to the fact that the moon seem to be pasted in the image, and the overall weirdness of the image. Here a close-up to the Moon showing very clearly the edge effect:</p>

<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/h5dWJ.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/h5dWJ.png" alt="enter image description here"></a></p>

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2018-04-12T17:46:36.503Z
2018-08-17T19:30:03.913Z
2018-08-17T19:30:03.913Z
Camilo Rada
<p>They are moving, but not fast enough to notice at the distance shown.  From the NASA page:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>These images were taken between 3:50 p.m. and 8:45 p.m. EDT on July 16, showing the moon moving over the Pacific Ocean near North America. The North Pole is in the upper left corner of the image, reflecting the orbital tilt of Earth from the vantage point of the spacecraft.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>In five hours, clouds may move some hundreds of kilometers at most.  The half-disk of the Earth is nearly 13,000 km across, so over the period the pictures were taken, the clouds should only be expected to move a small fraction of the width of the disk.<sup>[1]</sup>  Add to that the fact that the Earth is rotating and it is not readily apparent that they move at all.</p>

<hr>

<p><sup>1</sup>: Say the clouds in a huge hurricane move in a straight line at 100km/hr; over this 5-hour animation, that's 500 km movement which is just under 4% of the Earth's <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=diameter+of+the+earth+in+km" rel="noreferrer">12,742 km diameter</a>. The Earth is about 550px in this image and 550 × .04 = 22 pixels maximum change.</p>

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2017-01-24T16:00:07.720Z
In addition to this, if you look at vortex formations movement is slightly more apparent as those changing shape rather than moving with respect to a mostly blue ball.  It might be confirmation bias but it looks like there's a slight change to me.
Kaithar
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2017-01-24T10:28:59.007Z
2017-01-26T21:33:28.727Z
2017-01-26T21:33:28.727Z
gerrit
<p>I recently saw a short video from NASA. It shows the moon passing by the Earth as it rotates.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/thumbnails/image/dscovrepicmoontransitfull.gif"><img src="https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/thumbnails/image/dscovrepicmoontransitfull.gif" alt="NASA 360 degree view of Earth"></a>
NASA link: <a href="https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/from-a-million-miles-away-nasa-camera-shows-moon-crossing-face-of-earth">From a Million Miles Away, NASA Camera Shows Moon Crossing Face of Earth</a>.</p>

<p>The video itself looks quite fake, but that can probably be attributed to the fact that it was reconstructed from sensor data as opposed to a regular camera.</p>

<p>My question is, why do the clouds not appear to move at all? According to the website, the images span approximately 5 hours.</p>

<p>There are a lot of people online saying the video is fake. I believe the Earth is a globe, but I can see why people have their doubts about this particular video.</p>

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2017-01-24T18:31:51.207Z
The less familiar far side of the moon, which is invisible from terrestrial observations due to tidal locking, also contributes to the "fake look". Here's a pic, note the dark spot in the upper left corner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon#/media/File:Moon_Farside_LRO.jpg
Justas
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2017-01-24T18:39:15.963Z
I see some of the clouds change a little.
f.thorpe
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2017-01-24T21:41:43.683Z
See [this article](http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2016/07/12/dscovr_sees_moon_passing_in_front_of_earth_from_space.html) for a good writeup of this NASA-created animation and a brief overview of the satellite that captured the images. There is also [a NASA page dedicated to this satellite and its mission](https://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/content/dscovr-deep-space-climate-observatory).
brichins
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2017-01-25T08:32:30.963Z
The problem is that many people are not able to visualise different perspectives.  The only experience they have is watching clouds move overhead here on Earth.  They are not able to visualise how that would look from a million miles away.  They further cannot visualise the difference between the micro level they observe, across a few tens of mils, versus the macro level seen here.  They also cannot visualise relative motion.  Tell them to try seeing the clouds move when flying at 36,000 feet.  Does the fact that they cannot mean that they don't or perhaps that the flight is fake?
Simon
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2017-01-25T09:21:46.613Z
The clouds "don't move" for the same reason waves and boats "don't move" on the ocean when looking at them from a jet liner. Hint: What's the distances in the image? What's average cloud speed?
Peter - Reinstate Monica
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2017-01-25T14:42:08.180Z
Hurricane Dolores off of Baja California is clearly rotating and weakening in the above video.
David Hammen
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2017-01-26T22:56:45.290Z
A ‘regular camera’ also reconstructs its pictures from sensor data (and generally performs quite a lot of post-processing in-camera) :). The most salient difference is that NASA’s Earth Polychromatic Imaging Camera exposes the R, G, and B channels sequentially rather than simultaneously, producing the green edge on the moon. But regular cameras [can also produce artefacts due to non-instantaneous exposure](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_shutter#/media/File:Jamtlands_Flyg_EC120B_Colibri.JPG).
Pont
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2017-04-29T09:54:08.230Z
Definitely a strange view to me, and definitely had me questioning for a few minutes too.  But analyzed some of the math and details, and perhaps it's on my own biases.  Guess as a meteorologist I'm too ingrained at looking at geosynchronous views.  Just goes to show that we forget we rotate at a much faster rate than weather moves.  Constantly moving ~1000 mph at mid latitudes.  Crazy to ponder.  And makes it tough to see cloud progression when rotating away the same direction the clouds are generally moving
JeopardyTempest
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2018-08-18T22:24:37.430Z
Someone gave an answer (before deleting it) pointing out that in Apollo 13 they were able to cover the Earth with their thumbs.  And that made him question the sizes as well
JeopardyTempest
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2018-08-18T22:48:54.743Z
But took a rough look at the math. From a viewer, the Earth would take up an angle of $α=\tan^{-1}(\frac{2\,r_E}{d_{MtoE}+D})$ and the moon would take up an angle of $β=\tan^{-1}(\frac{2\,r_M}{D})$. And it appears in the image that α ≈ 3β. Using [Wolfram Alpha](https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=tan%5E-1(2*3959%2F(28900%2Bd))+%3D+3*tan%5E-1(2*1079%2Fd)), looks like the view would be from roughly 130k miles the other side of the moon (about 5 times the Earth-moon distance). So overall not too unfeasible in terms of the geometry involved (just need some GOOD zoom to get it to look so big :-p)
JeopardyTempest
<clouds><remote-sensing><earth-rotation><astronomy>
Why clouds are not moving in NASA's video of the Moon passing in front of the Earth?
Chris Parton
# Why clouds are not moving in NASA's video of the Moon passing in front of the Earth?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-01-24)

I recently saw a short video from NASA. It shows the moon passing by the Earth as it rotates.

[![NASA 360 degree view of Earth](https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/thumbnails/image/dscovrepicmoontransitfull.gif)](https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/thumbnails/image/dscovrepicmoontransitfull.gif)
NASA link: [From a Million Miles Away, NASA Camera Shows Moon Crossing Face of Earth](https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/from-a-million-miles-away-nasa-camera-shows-moon-crossing-face-of-earth).

The video itself looks quite fake, but that can probably be attributed to the fact that it was reconstructed from sensor data as opposed to a regular camera.

My question is, why do the clouds not appear to move at all? According to the website, the images span approximately 5 hours.

There are a lot of people online saying the video is fake. I believe the Earth is a globe, but I can see why people have their doubts about this particular video.

**Tags:** clouds, remote-sensing, earth-rotation, astronomy

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: The less familiar far side of the moon, which is invisible from terrestrial observations due to tidal locking, also contributes to the "fake look". Here's a pic, note the dark spot in the upper left corner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon#/media/File:Moon_Farside_LRO.jpg  
> **username_2**: I see some of the clouds change a little.  
> **username_3**: See [this article](http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2016/07/12/dscovr_sees_moon_passing_in_front_of_earth_from_space.html) for a good writeup of this NASA-created animation and a brief overview of the satellite that captured the images. There is also [a NASA page dedicated to this satellite and its mission](https://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/content/dscovr-deep-space-climate-observatory).  
> **username_4**: The problem is that many people are not able to visualise different perspectives.  The only experience they have is watching clouds move overhead here on Earth.  They are not able to visualise how that would look from a million miles away.  They further cannot visualise the difference between the micro level they observe, across a few tens of mils, versus the macro level seen here.  They also cannot visualise relative motion.  Tell them to try seeing the clouds move when flying at 36,000 feet.  Does the fact that they cannot mean that they don't or perhaps that the flight is fake?  
> **username_5**: The clouds "don't move" for the same reason waves and boats "don't move" on the ocean when looking at them from a jet liner. Hint: What's the distances in the image? What's average cloud speed?  
> **username_6**: Hurricane Dolores off of Baja California is clearly rotating and weakening in the above video.  
> **username_7**: A ‘regular camera’ also reconstructs its pictures from sensor data (and generally performs quite a lot of post-processing in-camera) :). The most salient difference is that NASA’s Earth Polychromatic Imaging Camera exposes the R, G, and B channels sequentially rather than simultaneously, producing the green edge on the moon. But regular cameras [can also produce artefacts due to non-instantaneous exposure](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_shutter#/media/File:Jamtlands_Flyg_EC120B_Colibri.JPG).  
> **username_8**: Definitely a strange view to me, and definitely had me questioning for a few minutes too.  But analyzed some of the math and details, and perhaps it's on my own biases.  Guess as a meteorologist I'm too ingrained at looking at geosynchronous views.  Just goes to show that we forget we rotate at a much faster rate than weather moves.  Constantly moving ~1000 mph at mid latitudes.  Crazy to ponder.  And makes it tough to see cloud progression when rotating away the same direction the clouds are generally moving  
> **username_8**: Someone gave an answer (before deleting it) pointing out that in Apollo 13 they were able to cover the Earth with their thumbs.  And that made him question the sizes as well  
> **username_8**: But took a rough look at the math. From a viewer, the Earth would take up an angle of $α=\tan^{-1}(\frac{2\,r_E}{d_{MtoE}+D})$ and the moon would take up an angle of $β=\tan^{-1}(\frac{2\,r_M}{D})$. And it appears in the image that α ≈ 3β. Using [Wolfram Alpha](https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=tan%5E-1(2*3959%2F(28900%2Bd))+%3D+3*tan%5E-1(2*1079%2Fd)), looks like the view would be from roughly 130k miles the other side of the moon (about 5 times the Earth-moon distance). So overall not too unfeasible in terms of the geometry involved (just need some GOOD zoom to get it to look so big :-p)  

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## 3 answers

### Answer by username_13 on 2017-01-24. Score: 26 | Accepted answer

They are moving, but not fast enough to notice at the distance shown. From the NASA page:

> These images were taken between 3:50 p.m. and 8:45 p.m. EDT on July 16, showing the moon moving over the Pacific Ocean near North America. The North Pole is in the upper left corner of the image, reflecting the orbital tilt of Earth from the vantage point of the spacecraft.

In five hours, clouds may move some hundreds of kilometers at most. The half-disk of the Earth is nearly 13,000 km across, so over the period the pictures were taken, the clouds should only be expected to move a small fraction of the width of the disk.[1] Add to that the fact that the Earth is rotating and it is not readily apparent that they move at all.

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1: Say the clouds in a huge hurricane move in a straight line at 100km/hr; over this 5-hour animation, that's 500 km movement which is just under 4% of the Earth's [12,742 km diameter](https://www.google.com/search?q=diameter+of+the+earth+in+km). The Earth is about 550px in this image and 550 × .04 = 22 pixels maximum change.

> **Comments:**
> **username_14**: In addition to this, if you look at vortex formations movement is slightly more apparent as those changing shape rather than moving with respect to a mostly blue ball.  It might be confirmation bias but it looks like there's a slight change to me.  

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### Answer by username_9 on 2017-01-24. Score: 29

The clouds can be seen moving but of course it's subtle at first glance.

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> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Nice spotting! I was searching for tiny movements myself but with the low frame rate I wasn't sure if my eyes were playing tricks on me.  I appreciate you taking the time to hunt down a relatively noticeable change!  
> **username_10**: It can be hard to tell which changes are actual movement, and which are due to the perspective changes from rotation.  
> **username_9**: @username_10 I agree but I took frames that are very close together to reduce that effect (20 is the last frame). I also chose this area because one area can be observed thinning which is not likely to be perspective.  
> **username_11**: The "foot" of the sphinx-shaped cloud that ends right near the reflection of the sun changes quite a lot. As does the cloud just south-west of the hole-in-the-clouds that the moon passes under.  

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### Answer by username_12 on 2018-04-12. Score: 11

**The image is real, and the clouds are moving**, they just move slow, as clouds do.
The unnatural appearance arise because they are taken by [DSCOVR](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Space_Climate_Observatory) at an extraordinarily large distance, from a place called [L1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_point), more than **one million kilometers away!!!**.
The rotation of the Earth in the animation makes it difficult to distinguish the movement of the clouds, but if you just track one single area as shown in the animation below, the movements of the clouds becomes evident:

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/84XnY.gif)](https://i.sstatic.net/84XnY.gif)

The zoom area shown in the right was extracted from the circled area in the left.
For the above animation I downloaded the original frames at high resolution from [here](https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a010000/a011900/a011971/index.html). The resolution was reduced so that it is smaller than the limit of SE (2MB), but you can see it at full resolution [here](https://i.imgur.com/EcuKxBB.gifv).

Here you can see a closeup on the cropped section:

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/BaGIi.gif)](https://i.sstatic.net/BaGIi.gif)

The changes and movements of the clouds are quite obvious now. Aren't they?

The overall deformation is mostly due to perspective changes as Earth's rotates, but it is clear how some clouds change, and some dissolve completely during the video, like the elongated one in the upper left corner of the cloudless patch shown in the crop. If you put attention the vanishing of that cloud can be seen in the original video.

Another effect that might make the image looks weird, is the fact that the images used for the red, green and blue channels of the image are taken 30 seconds apart, and due to the displacement of the Earth and specially the Moon during that period, it creates an edge effect that is very clear in the full resolution image and might contribute to the fact that the moon seem to be pasted in the image, and the overall weirdness of the image. Here a close-up to the Moon showing very clearly the edge effect:

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/h5dWJ.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/h5dWJ.png)


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