<p>Adding an answer here just to note that the usual practice that aretxabaleta explains is not universal. It turned out for me that the software I was using counted from the start of the Dublin Julian Day epoch (1200h, Dec 31, 1899). So I guess it varies a bit.</p>

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<p>Tidal constituents follow the expression: <span class="math-container">$\eta(t) = A cos (\omega t + \phi)$</span>, where <span class="math-container">$\eta$</span> is the tidal elevation at a specific time, <span class="math-container">$A$</span> is the amplitude of the constituent, <span class="math-container">$\omega$</span> is the speed of the constituent (the rate of change in phase), and, finally <span class="math-container">$\phi$</span> is the phase of the constituent at the initial time from which the time is measured. The phase, <span class="math-container">$\phi$</span>, is measured with regard to the <a href="http://www.vims.edu/research/units/labgroups/tc_tutorial/static.php" rel="nofollow noreferrer">equilibrium tide</a>.</p>
<p>Thus, the short answer is that the phase is usually referring to the delay (in degree) from the theoretical equilibrium tide. From the <a href="http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/glossary.html#epoch" rel="nofollow noreferrer">NOAA glossary</a> for phase lag (or phase epoch, not to be confused with the tidal datum epoch):</p>
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<p>Angular retardation of the maximum of a constituent of the observed tide (or tidal current) behind the corresponding maximum of the same constituent of the theoretical equilibrium tide. It may also be defined as the phase difference between a tidal constituent and its equilibrium argument. As referred to the local equilibrium argument, its symbol is <span class="math-container">$\kappa$</span>. When referred to the corresponding Greenwich equilibrium argument, it is called the Greenwich epoch and is represented by <span class="math-container">$G$</span>. A Greenwich epoch that has been modified to adjust to a particular time meridian for convenience in the prediction of tides is represented by <span class="math-container">$g$</span> or by <span class="math-container">$\kappa'$</span>. The relations between these epochs may be expressed by the following formula:</p>
<p><span class="math-container">$G = \kappa + pL$</span></p>
<p><span class="math-container">$g = \kappa' = G – aS / 15$</span></p>
<p>in which <span class="math-container">$L$</span> is the longitude of the place and <span class="math-container">$S$</span> is the longitude of the time meridian, these being taken as positive for west longitude and negative for east longitude; <span class="math-container">$p$</span> is the number of constituent periods in the constituent day and is equal to 0 for all long-period constituents, 1 for diurnal constituents, 2 for semidiurnal constituents,and so forth; and a is the hourly speed of the constituent, all angular measurements being expressed in degrees.</p>
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<p>It is common to describe tidal elevations at a given location by giving the phases and amplitudes of tidal constituents. One such application is for setting the open boundary conditions for regional flow models.</p>

<p>However, the phase of a constituent is only meaningful if we also know a specific time at which that phase angle applies. For example, if a constituent has an amplitude of 2m and a phase of 127 degrees (perhaps more accurately called a phase offset), there must be a specific date and time at which it is at 127 degrees, from which it progresses at a rate specified by the period of that constituent.</p>

<p>Is there a convention as to what date and time this is?</p>

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When specifying phase and amplitude for a tidal constituent, what date/time does phase start from?
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# When specifying phase and amplitude for a tidal constituent, what date/time does phase start from?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2016-08-15)

It is common to describe tidal elevations at a given location by giving the phases and amplitudes of tidal constituents. One such application is for setting the open boundary conditions for regional flow models.

However, the phase of a constituent is only meaningful if we also know a specific time at which that phase angle applies. For example, if a constituent has an amplitude of 2m and a phase of 127 degrees (perhaps more accurately called a phase offset), there must be a specific date and time at which it is at 127 degrees, from which it progresses at a rate specified by the period of that constituent.

Is there a convention as to what date and time this is?

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2016-08-15. Score: 3 | Accepted answer

Tidal constituents follow the expression: $\eta(t) = A cos (\omega t + \phi)$, where $\eta$ is the tidal elevation at a specific time, $A$ is the amplitude of the constituent, $\omega$ is the speed of the constituent (the rate of change in phase), and, finally $\phi$ is the phase of the constituent at the initial time from which the time is measured. The phase, $\phi$, is measured with regard to the [equilibrium tide](http://www.vims.edu/research/units/labgroups/tc_tutorial/static.php).

Thus, the short answer is that the phase is usually referring to the delay (in degree) from the theoretical equilibrium tide. From the [NOAA glossary](http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/glossary.html#epoch) for phase lag (or phase epoch, not to be confused with the tidal datum epoch):

> Angular retardation of the maximum of a constituent of the observed tide (or tidal current) behind the corresponding maximum of the same constituent of the theoretical equilibrium tide. It may also be defined as the phase difference between a tidal constituent and its equilibrium argument. As referred to the local equilibrium argument, its symbol is $\kappa$. When referred to the corresponding Greenwich equilibrium argument, it is called the Greenwich epoch and is represented by $G$. A Greenwich epoch that has been modified to adjust to a particular time meridian for convenience in the prediction of tides is represented by $g$ or by $\kappa'$. The relations between these epochs may be expressed by the following formula:
>
> $G = \kappa + pL$
>
> $g = \kappa' = G – aS / 15$
>
> in which $L$ is the longitude of the place and $S$ is the longitude of the time meridian, these being taken as positive for west longitude and negative for east longitude; $p$ is the number of constituent periods in the constituent day and is equal to 0 for all long-period constituents, 1 for diurnal constituents, 2 for username_0 constituents,and so forth; and a is the hourly speed of the constituent, all angular measurements being expressed in degrees.


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### Answer by username_0 on 2016-08-25. Score: 2

Adding an answer here just to note that the usual practice that aretxabaleta explains is not universal. It turned out for me that the software I was using counted from the start of the Dublin Julian Day epoch (1200h, Dec 31, 1899). So I guess it varies a bit.


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