<p>No, teeth are not used to determine hardness. That would be incredibly stupid. What teeth <em>are</em> used for is distinguishing silt from clay.</p>

<p>When dealing with very fine grained rocks you might be interested in the relative proportions of clay-sized particles and silt-sized particles in the rock. This is very hard to do, but surprisingly quite easy when you try to put some between your teeth. Clays will have a smooth, paste-like, feeling, whereas silt will feel like fine grained sand. With enough experience you will be able to give a rough estimate of the proportions of the minerals.</p>

<p>Also notice this related question:</p>

<p><a href="https://earthscience.stackexchange.com/q/1084/725">When can taste be used to help identify rocks?</a> </p>

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That makes much more sense, thanks! At the word rock I'm thinking of the stuff they make statues from, but this would be something you would be doing with material that is weaker than say porcelain or something and that you can actually break with your jaws relatively easy, do I understand this correctly?
Thomas Bosman
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2015-06-05T00:56:09.463Z
In addition to the same information as in Michael's answer, my main geology lecturer (years ago), advised students to use a knife to test for hardness. Steel used in knives has a hardness of 7-8 & is good for testing most materials. Diamond & carborundum are harder than knife steel, but knives are more readily available & cheaper than diamond or carborundum for hardness testing.
Fred
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@ThomasBosman you have to distinguish hardness from strength. Hardness is basically which material can scratch what other material. Strength is how hard it is to break. For example, diamond is very hard but also very brittle - you can definitely break it with a hammer.
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<p>So I know scratch tests are pretty common to quickly get an estimate of a rocks hardness. Also tooth enamel is a common material with a 5 on mohs scale. So far so good, but what shocked me is that I heard students on field trips actually use their <em>own</em> teeth sometimes to determine hardness. </p>

<p>The obvious explanation is that I've been fooled, which I expect will be the answer. </p>

<p>But if this is really true, how do your teeth survive? Or is it just an occupational hazard that you're going to need dentures before your thirties as a geologist?</p>

<p><sub><sup>Disclaimer: this question comes from a story someone told me some time ago, whose girlfriend studied earth sciences. I found it implausible then, but it keeps bugging me and I can't find information on this except that gold miners probably routinely lost their teeth during the 19th century.</sup></sub></p>

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2015-06-04T16:16:10.417Z
I know this is out of scope for the site, but I imagine this can be easily answered by anyone with experience in the subject.
Thomas Bosman
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2015-06-04T17:01:37.413Z
Using your teeth to do this sounds like such a bad idea
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Determining hardness using teeth
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# Determining hardness using teeth

(Asked by: username_0 on 2015-06-04)

So I know scratch tests are pretty common to quickly get an estimate of a rocks hardness. Also tooth enamel is a common material with a 5 on mohs scale. So far so good, but what shocked me is that I heard students on field trips actually use their *own* teeth sometimes to determine hardness.

The obvious explanation is that I've been fooled, which I expect will be the answer.

But if this is really true, how do your teeth survive? Or is it just an occupational hazard that you're going to need dentures before your thirties as a geologist?

Disclaimer: this question comes from a story someone told me some time ago, whose girlfriend studied earth sciences. I found it implausible then, but it keeps bugging me and I can't find information on this except that gold miners probably routinely lost their teeth during the 19th century.

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> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: I know this is out of scope for the site, but I imagine this can be easily answered by anyone with experience in the subject.  
> **username_1**: Using your teeth to do this sounds like such a bad idea  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2015-06-04. Score: 6 | Accepted answer

No, teeth are not used to determine hardness. That would be incredibly stupid. What teeth *are* used for is distinguishing silt from clay.

When dealing with very fine grained rocks you might be interested in the relative proportions of clay-sized particles and silt-sized particles in the rock. This is very hard to do, but surprisingly quite easy when you try to put some between your teeth. Clays will have a smooth, paste-like, feeling, whereas silt will feel like fine grained sand. With enough experience you will be able to give a rough estimate of the proportions of the minerals.

Also notice this related question:

[When can taste be used to help identify rocks?](https://earthscience.stackexchange.com/q/1084/725)

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: That makes much more sense, thanks! At the word rock I'm thinking of the stuff they make statues from, but this would be something you would be doing with material that is weaker than say porcelain or something and that you can actually break with your jaws relatively easy, do I understand this correctly?  
> **username_3**: In addition to the same information as in Michael's answer, my main geology lecturer (years ago), advised students to use a knife to test for hardness. Steel used in knives has a hardness of 7-8 & is good for testing most materials. Diamond & carborundum are harder than knife steel, but knives are more readily available & cheaper than diamond or carborundum for hardness testing.  
> **username_2**: @username_0 you have to distinguish hardness from strength. Hardness is basically which material can scratch what other material. Strength is how hard it is to break. For example, diamond is very hard but also very brittle - you can definitely break it with a hammer.  

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