<p>Tsunamis and sound waves are different types of wave - one is a transverse wave and the other is a longitudinal one. Let's look at the factors that influence the speed of each one.</p>
<h2>Tsunami - transverse wave in shallow water</h2>
<p>A transverse wave is one of the type that we think of from day to day - where the direction of oscillation is perpendicular to the direction of travel. The speed that a transverse wave travels at depends on different factors depending on the depth of the water. For this purpose, &quot;shallow water&quot; is usually defined as existing where depth &lt; wavelength/20. The wavelength of a tsunami is very large - of the order of hundreds of kilometres - so for a tsunami, any part of the world's oceans counts as &quot;shallow water&quot;.</p>
<p>In shallow water, the speed of a transverse wave can be described by,</p>
<p><span class="math-container">$$V = \sqrt{gD}$$</span></p>
<p>where <span class="math-container">$V$</span> is the wave's speed, <span class="math-container">$D$</span> is the depth, and <span class="math-container">$g$</span> is the acceleration due to gravity (9.81 m/s<sup>2</sup>). In the case of a tsunami in the deep ocean, then, if we assume a depth of 4 km we can estimate a speed of 198 m/s, or 713 kph. That's a back-of-an-envelope calculation, but it's sufficiently similar to the 800kph that you quoted in the question that I'm happy with it.</p>
<h2>Sound - longitudinal wave</h2>
<p>In a longitudinal wave, the direction of the oscillation is parallel to the direction of travel - i.e. it's an oscillation in the <em>density</em> of the material. We don't see many of these in everyday life, but one good example is the wave that moves down a slinky if you jerk the ends towards or away from each other.</p>
<p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/JpWFf.png" alt="Picture of a slinky showing a longitudinal wave" />
(<a href="http://www.frankswebspace.org.uk/ScienceAndMaths/physics/physicsGCSE/transLong.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Image source</a>)</p>
<p>Sound, in a liquid or a gas, is an example of a longitudinal wave. The speed of a longitudinal wave depends on the stiffness and the density of the material that it travels through, in the following way:</p>
<p><span class="math-container">$$c = \sqrt{\frac{K}{\rho}}$$</span></p>
<p>where <span class="math-container">$c$</span> is the speed of the wave, <span class="math-container">$K$</span> is the bulk modulus of the fluid, and <span class="math-container">$\rho$</span> is its density. Note that there is no dependence on the depth of the fluid (in this case the sea) - sound one metre below the surface of a salt water swimming pool would move at roughly the same speed as sound one meter below the surface of an ocean.</p>
<h2>Summary</h2>
<p>Sound waves and tsunami waves propagate through different mechanisms, and thus different things influence their speeds.</p>

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@hugovdberg: I'd be interested to see that. I don't understand how there can be a net movement of water, at least over the long term (weeks+). Isn't it just a matter of scale?
naught101
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In short, tsunamis are usualy caused by a net movement of the ocean floor, which typically rises several meters over a large area. That displaced water bulges over that area and then flows sideways as a very shallow wave (in the order of centimetres, hardly noticable over the normal wind wave s) which only increases in height as soon as that wall of water hits the continental shelf. But since the seafloor does not return to its initial position neither will the water.
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Hmm. Surely a rise of the ocean floor should eventually reach equilibrium with a (very) small increase in water level across the ocean basin (or possibly just around that bit of ocean floor), reflecting the lost volume? I had always assumed that the "movement of water" inland from a tsunami was simply wave particle motion, on a large scale.  Perhaps this should be a question in its own right... @naught101?
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[Related discussion on Physics SE.](http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/80226/why-do-longitudinal-waves-travel-faster-than-transverse-waves)
Matt Hall
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Nice answer. It would be excellent if there was some more explanation of why the two equations are used - maybe not the full derivation, but something indicating how they were discovered, perhaps?
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@naught101 Good point. However, I don't think my own level of expertise is enough to do that with confidence. Edits are welcome if somebody more knowledgeable comes along!
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This could be further expanded, if not corrected, with the fact that in a tsunami there is a net movement of water, instead of, as with normal waves, only net transfer of energy. Soundwaves then again are longitudinal pressure waves, and in that case indeed different wave velocities apply.
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@hugovdberg this is out of my area of expertise, really, so improvements are very welcome! Please feel free to propose an edit to the answer! (or do a new answer, of course)
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Semidiurnal Simon
<p>Tsunamis, in the deep ocean, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsunami#Characteristics">travel at around 800 kilometers per hour</a>. </p>

<p>The speed of sound under water is about 5300 kilometers per hour.</p>

<p>Both of these waves are pressure waves, operating in the same medium. Why is one so much faster than the other?</p>

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Why do Tsunamis travel slower than sound?
naught101
# Why do Tsunamis travel slower than sound?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2014-04-16)

Tsunamis, in the deep ocean, [travel at around 800 kilometers per hour](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsunami#Characteristics).

The speed of sound under water is about 5300 kilometers per hour.

Both of these waves are pressure waves, operating in the same medium. Why is one so much faster than the other?

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2014-04-16. Score: 22 | Accepted answer

Tsunamis and sound waves are different types of wave - one is a transverse wave and the other is a longitudinal one. Let's look at the factors that influence the speed of each one.

## Tsunami - transverse wave in shallow water

A transverse wave is one of the type that we think of from day to day - where the direction of oscillation is perpendicular to the direction of travel. The speed that a transverse wave travels at depends on different factors depending on the depth of the water. For this purpose, "shallow water" is usually defined as existing where depth < wavelength/20. The wavelength of a tsunami is very large - of the order of hundreds of kilometres - so for a tsunami, any part of the world's oceans counts as "shallow water".

In shallow water, the speed of a transverse wave can be described by,

$$V = \sqrt{gD}$$

where $V$ is the wave's speed, $D$ is the depth, and $g$ is the acceleration due to gravity (9.81 m/s2). In the case of a tsunami in the deep ocean, then, if we assume a depth of 4 km we can estimate a speed of 198 m/s, or 713 kph. That's a back-of-an-envelope calculation, but it's sufficiently similar to the 800kph that you quoted in the question that I'm happy with it.

## Sound - longitudinal wave

In a longitudinal wave, the direction of the oscillation is parallel to the direction of travel - i.e. it's an oscillation in the *density* of the material. We don't see many of these in everyday life, but one good example is the wave that moves down a slinky if you jerk the ends towards or away from each other.

![Picture of a slinky showing a longitudinal wave](https://i.sstatic.net/JpWFf.png)
([Image source](http://www.frankswebspace.org.uk/ScienceAndMaths/physics/physicsGCSE/transLong.htm))

Sound, in a liquid or a gas, is an example of a longitudinal wave. The speed of a longitudinal wave depends on the stiffness and the density of the material that it travels through, in the following way:

$$c = \sqrt{\frac{K}{\rho}}$$

where $c$ is the speed of the wave, $K$ is the bulk modulus of the fluid, and $\rho$ is its density. Note that there is no dependence on the depth of the fluid (in this case the sea) - sound one metre below the surface of a salt water swimming pool would move at roughly the same speed as sound one meter below the surface of an ocean.

## Summary

Sound waves and tsunami waves propagate through different mechanisms, and thus different things influence their speeds.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Nice answer. It would be excellent if there was some more explanation of why the two equations are used - maybe not the full derivation, but something indicating how they were discovered, perhaps?  
> **username_1**: @username_0 Good point. However, I don't think my own level of expertise is enough to do that with confidence. Edits are welcome if somebody more knowledgeable comes along!  
> **username_2**: This could be further expanded, if not corrected, with the fact that in a tsunami there is a net movement of water, instead of, as with normal waves, only net transfer of energy. Soundwaves then again are longitudinal pressure waves, and in that case indeed different wave velocities apply.  
> **username_1**: @username_2 this is out of my area of expertise, really, so improvements are very welcome! Please feel free to propose an edit to the answer! (or do a new answer, of course)  
> **username_0**: @username_2: I'd be interested to see that. I don't understand how there can be a net movement of water, at least over the long term (weeks+). Isn't it just a matter of scale?  
> **username_2**: In short, tsunamis are usualy caused by a net movement of the ocean floor, which typically rises several meters over a large area. That displaced water bulges over that area and then flows sideways as a very shallow wave (in the order of centimetres, hardly noticable over the normal wind wave s) which only increases in height as soon as that wall of water hits the continental shelf. But since the seafloor does not return to its initial position neither will the water.  
> **username_1**: Hmm. Surely a rise of the ocean floor should eventually reach equilibrium with a (very) small increase in water level across the ocean basin (or possibly just around that bit of ocean floor), reflecting the lost volume? I had always assumed that the "movement of water" inland from a tsunami was simply wave particle motion, on a large scale.  Perhaps this should be a question in its own right... @username_0?  
> **username_3**: [Related discussion on Physics SE.](http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/80226/why-do-longitudinal-waves-travel-faster-than-transverse-waves)  

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