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  <p>So all this leading to my question: What could have been the cause of
  the this deep divide?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Think about what animals need to travel between Islands.  It's very difficult unless the water between the islands either drops or freezes over (Deer, for example, have crossed from New Jersey to Staten Island when the Hudson River freezes over), but the ocean doesn't freeze near the Wallace line.</p>

<p>Or, during ice ages <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Glacial_Maximum#World_impact" rel="nofollow noreferrer">when sea level falls as much as 410 feet</a>, Islands can be joined as sea level drops.   Japan, for example, a <a href="http://www.evanseasyjapanese.com/where-the-ice-age-was.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">land-bridge formed through Hokaido to mainland Asia.</a>  Likewise, the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland" rel="nofollow noreferrer">UK connects to France</a> and the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beringia" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Bering Straight</a> becomes land as well.</p>

<p>There's nothing particularly remarkable about the water over the Wallace line other than it being <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Line#Biogeography" rel="nofollow noreferrer">too deep for any land bridges</a> to form during ice ages.  The relevant geological feature for land bridges is shallow oceans/seas/bays/straights/channels, etc.   The Java sea is sufficiently shallow that all the islands Northwest of the Wallace line are joined when sea level falls.    </p>

<p>It was pointed out that it's rough water too, but that's not the primary reason.   The primary reason is simply the ocean's depth and width.  Animals have little incentive to try to cross any fairly large body of ocean.  Animals sometimes migrate across raging rivers, but in that situation the other side is clearly visible.  The islands on each side of the Wallace line, even with the sea level drop, would (<em>I assume</em>), appear very far away to the eye, if they could be seen at all.</p>

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Not "rough water" so much as [currents](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_Throughflow) through the Lombok Strait that make drifting between Bali and Lombok unlikely.
Spencer
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userLTK
<p>They might be looking at the problem backward.  It is now believed that new world monkeys are the descendants of old world monkeys that floated on mats of trees across a much narrower Atlantic tens of millions of years ago. Even then, the Atlantic was much wider than any gap in the Indonesian area. So Borneo is an exception in that it has a marsupial, the southern or short nosed brown bandicoot of southern Australia.  At the same tine, New Guinea has many placentals living alongside marsupials.  Perhaps only small animals are capable of spreading without a land bridge because their energy requirements won't let them survive long trips. Tortoises can survive months without eating and they occupy many islands worldwide.</p>

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Robert SImpson
<p>First off, I am a biologist, not an earth scientist. </p>

<p>Very recently I heard about a very interesting biological phenomenon that has its origins rooted in geology : The Wallace Line. </p>

<p>From a biological perspective, this is very interesting. Wikipedia explains it very, but in short: The Wallace Line describes that in south east Asia there is a very strong divide in occurrence of species when comparing everything from Bali westward, and everything from Lombok eastward. e.g. large mammals characterizing Sumatra and Java are: Tigers, Elephants and Rhinos. Whereas eastward of the Wallace Line, you have your Marsupials. The same goes for many other different animal and plant species. </p>

<p>Explanation given is that many many many years ago when the sea level was much lower, there was an oceanic divide between east and west of south east Asia. This is supposed to be the result of tectonic movement. However, I have not been able to find a detailed explanation what could have caused this deeper oceanic divide. If I look at maps of tectonic plates and tectonic activity in the region, there are no tectonic boundaries that overlap the Wallace line. </p>

<p>So all this leading to my question: What could have been the cause of the this deep divide? </p>

<p><a href="http://darwinlive.com/wallace/images/wallaceline.jpg" rel="noreferrer">Here a link of the Wallace Line</a></p>

<p><a href="https://atlantisjavasea.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/sundaland-last-glacial-maximum_75.png" rel="noreferrer">Here a link of Indonesian Bathymetry</a> </p>

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From watching a David Attenborough documentary many years ago (around 2000 to 2010), I recall that one of the issues behind the Wallace Line is the strength of ocean currents between islands and the roughness of the water prevents animals from crossing the line and establishing themselves on the other side of the line.
Fred
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good point! However, I am still wondering what the cause is of this deep trench between the two islands. Was it tectonic activity? And if so, how? Since tectonic maps of the area don't show to overlap with the Wallace line. Maybe the trench was caused by years of river erosion? I mean, I'm shooting in the dark here :)
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I think the shallowness of the Java sea has a lot to do with it.   Also, that entire area is tectonically active.   Look at the proximity to the Java Trench (same map).      http://img.24liveblog.com/2014/12/28/1419748405165714.jpg
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Cause of Wallace line
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# Cause of Wallace line

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-10-19)

First off, I am a biologist, not an earth scientist.

Very recently I heard about a very interesting biological phenomenon that has its origins rooted in geology : The Wallace Line.

From a biological perspective, this is very interesting. Wikipedia explains it very, but in short: The Wallace Line describes that in south east Asia there is a very strong divide in occurrence of species when comparing everything from Bali westward, and everything from Lombok eastward. e.g. large mammals characterizing Sumatra and Java are: Tigers, Elephants and Rhinos. Whereas eastward of the Wallace Line, you have your Marsupials. The same goes for many other different animal and plant species.

Explanation given is that many many many years ago when the sea level was much lower, there was an oceanic divide between east and west of south east Asia. This is supposed to be the result of tectonic movement. However, I have not been able to find a detailed explanation what could have caused this deeper oceanic divide. If I look at maps of tectonic plates and tectonic activity in the region, there are no tectonic boundaries that overlap the Wallace line.

So all this leading to my question: What could have been the cause of the this deep divide?

[Here a link of the Wallace Line](http://darwinlive.com/wallace/images/wallaceline.jpg)

[Here a link of Indonesian Bathymetry](https://atlantisjavasea.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/sundaland-last-glacial-maximum_75.png)

**Tags:** geology, plate-tectonics

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: From watching a David Attenborough documentary many years ago (around 2000 to 2010), I recall that one of the issues behind the Wallace Line is the strength of ocean currents between islands and the roughness of the water prevents animals from crossing the line and establishing themselves on the other side of the line.  
> **username_0**: good point! However, I am still wondering what the cause is of this deep trench between the two islands. Was it tectonic activity? And if so, how? Since tectonic maps of the area don't show to overlap with the Wallace line. Maybe the trench was caused by years of river erosion? I mean, I'm shooting in the dark here :)  
> **username_2**: I think the shallowness of the Java sea has a lot to do with it.   Also, that entire area is tectonically active.   Look at the proximity to the Java Trench (same map).      http://img.24liveblog.com/2014/12/28/1419748405165714.jpg  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2017-10-26. Score: 4 | Accepted answer

> So all this leading to my question: What could have been the cause of
> the this deep divide?

Think about what animals need to travel between Islands. It's very difficult unless the water between the islands either drops or freezes over (Deer, for example, have crossed from New Jersey to Staten Island when the Hudson River freezes over), but the ocean doesn't freeze near the Wallace line.

Or, during ice ages [when sea level falls as much as 410 feet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Glacial_Maximum#World_impact), Islands can be joined as sea level drops. Japan, for example, a [land-bridge formed through Hokaido to mainland Asia.](http://www.evanseasyjapanese.com/where-the-ice-age-was.html) Likewise, the [UK connects to France](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland) and the [Bering Straight](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beringia) becomes land as well.

There's nothing particularly remarkable about the water over the Wallace line other than it being [too deep for any land bridges](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Line#Biogeography) to form during ice ages. The relevant geological feature for land bridges is shallow oceans/seas/bays/straights/channels, etc. The Java sea is sufficiently shallow that all the islands Northwest of the Wallace line are joined when sea level falls.

It was pointed out that it's rough water too, but that's not the primary reason. The primary reason is simply the ocean's depth and width. Animals have little incentive to try to cross any fairly large body of ocean. Animals sometimes migrate across raging rivers, but in that situation the other side is clearly visible. The islands on each side of the Wallace line, even with the sea level drop, would (*I assume*), appear very far away to the eye, if they could be seen at all.

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: Not "rough water" so much as [currents](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_Throughflow) through the Lombok Strait that make drifting between Bali and Lombok unlikely.  

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### Answer by username_4 on 2021-09-23. Score: 0

They might be looking at the problem backward. It is now believed that new world monkeys are the descendants of old world monkeys that floated on mats of trees across a much narrower Atlantic tens of millions of years ago. Even then, the Atlantic was much wider than any gap in the Indonesian area. So Borneo is an exception in that it has a marsupial, the southern or short nosed brown bandicoot of southern Australia. At the same tine, New Guinea has many placentals living alongside marsupials. Perhaps only small animals are capable of spreading without a land bridge because their energy requirements won't let them survive long trips. Tortoises can survive months without eating and they occupy many islands worldwide.


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