i thought you might not have heard of that one. politics.

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yeah. everybody should keep notebooks and it will keep, they won't forget the importance.

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i'll be fine and thank you so much, ryan. actually, i don't, it's not a cold, it's just four years of celebrating my son's wedding celebration.

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you know, the bass man, you guys have got amazing chemistry.

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and i find that in every interview, in every role

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what comes up, right? and it's been also like a bit of a driving force between you and [inaudible 00:04:56]

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that god their chemistry. but i was sitting today and i was like watching some of your movies or some of the clips

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you've done. and i'm just like, but guys is going to have chemistry with a broom...

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that is put on the clothes of this character. but the character is still a reflection of you. you are still at its base.

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you know, the more you educate yourself about every aspect of life,

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whether it be in philanthropy, whether it be in art history,

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it's not that kind of boom, boom, boom, bang, bang, bang, bang.

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some of that did happen that it was sitting up someone and knocked on

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my door. god, how are you going to go there?

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the song, the week before

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that to make the scene, to make it an authentic scene of a battle between him and between i and

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you. you made him rise in that scene though. like you came for the...

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it was like the first battle between father and son in there.

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but at the time i was like 20 years.

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is that pushing for it to be a bigger industry? exactly.

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i think it will be more credible when there are more female djs that are successful that are making money from this industry, [inaudible 00:04:09]

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, then it doesn't make sense. there has got to be more female digital djs, especially because there's so many men. yeah,

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she's got... and she's got, nobody hit her, but when you reprimand her...

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to meet at gym all the time and talk, not exercise.

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like, well, i want to know, hey, what were you eating?

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my nanny makes the best fish ever, in the world, in iceland.

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but this night is working. so what else do you want besides a house in la and to work with puff daddy?

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now i know you own era. i know more about air than i know about any...

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this vision of having my own store, but obviously i want to have several other stores.

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play them. tell us how you feel. so, when i was still going through rubbish, that...

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yeah. yeah. it's not cool. yeah? like i had this huge tattoo on my arm...

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you get comfortable and you find yourself

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in a supportive, in a comfortable zone. and that is a downfall.

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i won't... you ain't a lie right there. because i mean, we talked about this before.

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as far as, seeing past st. louis and seeing past, just this in general.

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so when is it... like have you, of course you bought her christmas gifts and stuff like that.

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did you do the first year? this will be the first year she coming to the house. but i mean before...

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happened. i can go spoil my girl. i can go do whatever. you know what i'm saying? because got... still have to spoil her all the time. so, buying them what they need... like

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i'm not nervous but she nervous. because i got aunties, they're like kind of young. they...

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just tell her. don't... it would be too much...

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you better help for her now... back to me, inappropriate things...

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i ain't never had no trauma like that. i don't know why. probably because i be 100 all the time. you do a bunch of lying then you get caught up, you know what i'm saying. but you just tell them what it is from the jump. i mean, you ain't going to have no problem.

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right. you got a picture of your girlfriend, now you got her on instagram.

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if you are single, i don't give a damn if you

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my girlfriend, whatever. until you get a ring...

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so if your girl cheated on you, and i'm starting shit,

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because i'm just me. no, go ahead. go ahead. you can talk some shit now.

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i'm ready to start some shit. so, if your girl cheats on you...

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oh. you know what i'm saying? like, i can't even be mad.

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am i going to be mad at her, am i going to stop talking to her? probably so.

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ain't nothing else better than me on this planet, so it don't even matter.

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well, it wasn't worth it. or because... usually when somebody step out on somebody they, they're curious. right.

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it wasn't even worth it. and then when they get caught up, they feel even more worse, you know?

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so cheat with somebody better than me, you know? cheat with somebody who... okay. ...lays it down better than me or who treat you better than me. i can't get mad. i'm like that [inaudible 00:02:24]

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is better than me. what. and i'm going ham. i'm like, you know what, you want to go deal with that. have him pay your phone bill. to help you out with your car note and your rent and stuff like that. you know what i'm saying? i ain't...

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[inaudible 00:02:39] that's why i love this podcast because i get to learn more about dudes, and more about [inaudible 00:02:42] than anything on this planet. i swear. but you laughing.but

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you know, you know what i'm talking about. you laughing.

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that on the soul savages. that's what i'm looking at... savages.

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y'all are savages. aye let me tell you why y'all savages. look, i...

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tell you right now. in the text messages? let me go in here. in the text...

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i didn't know. that's a new one. yeah. not only locations get you, but your thread. oh no.

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i think because i make the females so comfortable i...

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well, you know what, mike, everybody can't be like you but i definitely commend you and your girl and y'all relationship. i commend love, you know, let them know.

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aye, it's ya boy djrogerthat, aka mike rogers, aka i am the truth. we talking about some real shit on her.

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man, mr. nate parker. i'm jealous.

M-AE1-N M-IH1-S T-ER0 N-EY1-T P-AA1-R K-ER0 IH1-M JH-EH1 L-AH0-S


i mean, yeah. tell him i said, "hi." no as far as you though, i see you out here doing work. i noticed...

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were expected to be at work. but we weren't at work? so if you live in a bug, that means you living super comfortably.

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the worst happens. then you may be put in a predicament.

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i mean and that's what i get. that's not saying don't live. it just means like, you still go out...

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they can't. i think it's all about how you carry yourself, man. like a lot of guys, with the exception of those who are like super high powered

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and feel like that, you know what i mean? like basic read a woman's vibes off of what they can get away with.

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and some might try it, but you know, it ain't nothing wrong with checking them off. you just got to do what you got to do. like if you put that flirtatious vibe out to everyone, then no one would think they got more of a chance than the next person.

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but if you give them maybe one person a little more than you given the rest,

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then yeah. they going to try. who's not going to shoot they shot, you know what i mean? if you got two good arms, why would you not shoot your shot? there's nothing wrong

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with being flirtatious, but overly flirtatious, you know, people might take that the wrong way or they might try to make a move on it. so i think it's just about how you carry yourself.

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but if you come in here...

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[inaudible 00:09:42] like the breasts are going to be there, but it's not like as obvious. like she's not putting it out as like bad.

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the big titty committee, bam, i'm the president, but no being here in st. louis and you're out there in l.a.

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bro, he used to be a serial killer. no, fuck that. we're going to starbucks and we fitting to chit-chat over the strawberry frappuccino. you're fitting to tell me what the fuck is going on in your life because-

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so when i say colin kaepernick-

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rated slash media mogul. i'll say that. keep it real, man. maybe you don't go one week-

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jamming, jamming.okay. so what made you... as far as music goes, what made you say, "this is the field for me. this is what i want to do?"it was-

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so let's talk about your latest project. what's going on? what do you have that the world needs to hear that you is talking about, "look?"man, i was dropping the ep.

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because i may not ever get a benz, but at least let me-

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got you, you know what i'm saying? so just something different.

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that's smart. .hat's the smartest thing i've seen, you know what i'm saying? i seen you open up... you open up for young m.a.yeah, open-

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you want to work with this one artist that you just like, "i have to."

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it's a couple, man. i like big dollar.

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it's like i say, i'm getting this buzz and we keep it growing and growing with this buzz. hopefully, if don't nobody pick us up, you know what i mean? we can have a movement on our own.

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because i feel like me and all my guys is official. you know what i mean? so it's like-

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if we ain't getting nobody that's going to put a bag behind us, we got our own little bag, you know what i mean? we running with it, we running it up. so we ain't going to never stop.

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we going to catch that wave where we going to be getting shows, getting fee, we and paid on our own. i don't get a little 7,500-

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... or movement, like i say. so we got a whole bunch of people just doing a lot of things and everybody chipping in-

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... together, and that's what i love to see. you know what i mean? everybody putting in together and ain't nobody holding off.

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everybody in my circle, ain't no, ain't no greediness. you know what i mean? that's what i like.

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you know what i mean? so that's what we do on the, our side. so i'm saying, that's what they on, then y'all can come to jam with us. if not, you know what i'm saying? ain't about the color that you is, the block you on, none of that.

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some of the heartbreaking stories that you encountered.

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so basically the same few days in returning back to our situation at home, and we have seen from homicide panels that this is them cycle. they go-

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... back to homes. they go to prisons-

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they go back to shelters, and this is cycle that is not producing way out to such community. so-

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... for that reason and say that this general plan is good and it should be applied also for them.

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but in addition to that, some specific needs should be specially addressed for aboriginal women and girls.

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many protection that are not... violence against women that are not fully coherent or consistent because on one level-

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there is need to ensure rights of both parents to have context.

DH-EH1 R-IH1 Z-N-IY1-D T-UW1 EH0-N SH-UH1-R R-AY1-T S-AH1-V B-OW1-TH P-EH1 R-AH0-N-T-S T-UW1 HH-AE1-V K-AA1-N T-EH0-K-S-T


... when we have violence situation. it should be revisited-

W-EH1 N-W-IY1 HH-AE1-V V-AY1 AH0 L-AH0-N-S S-IH2 CH-UW0 EY1 SH-AH0 N-IH1-T SH-UH1-D B-IY1 R-IY0 V-IH1 Z-AH0 T-IH0-D


... women and children are increased risk, and such policy should be-

W-IH1 M-AH0 N-AH0-N-D CH-IH1-L D-R-AH0 N-AA1 R-IH0-N K-R-IY1-S T-R-IH1-S K-AH0-N-D S-AH1-CH P-AA1 L-AH0 S-IY0 SH-UH1-D B-IY1


... adjusted to such situation. this is-

AH0 JH-AH1-S T-AH0-D T-UW1 S-AH1-CH S-IH2 CH-UW0 EY1 SH-AH0-N DH-IH1 S-IH1-Z


to solve these challenges through science-

T-UW1 S-AA1-L-V DH-IY1-Z CH-AE1 L-AH0-N JH-IH0-Z TH-R-UW1 S-AY1 AH0-N-S


so migrant women are making a contribution in the region in terms of, other women's rights, and also contributing-

S-OW1 M-AY1 G-R-AH0-N T-W-IH1 M-AH0 N-AA1-R M-EY1 K-IH0 NG-AH0 K-AA2-N T-R-AH0 B-Y-UW1 SH-AH0 N-IH0-N DH-AH0 R-IY1 JH-AH0 N-IH0-N T-ER1-M Z-AH1 V-AH1 DH-ER0 W-IH1 M-AH0-N Z-R-AY1-T S-AH0-N D-AO1-L S-OW0 K-AH0-N T-R-IH1 B-Y-UW0 T-IH0-NG


for those listening to this, what are steps that we can all take towards gender equality for all women, regardless of where we live?

F-AO1-R DH-OW1 Z-L-IH1 S-AH0 N-IH0-NG T-UW1 DH-IH1 S-W-AH1 T-AA1-R-S T-EH1-P-S DH-AE1 T-W-IY1 K-AE1 N-AO1-L T-EY1-K T-AH0 W-AO1-R-D-Z JH-EH1-N D-ER0 IH0 K-W-AA1 L-AH0 T-IY0 F-AO1 R-AO1 L-W-IH1 M-AH0 N-R-AH0 G-AA1-R D-L-AH0 S-AH1 V-W-EH1 R-W-IY1 L-AY1-V


speaking about the future, what do you find the role of use important in the work that you do?

S-P-IY1 K-IH0 NG-AH0 B-AW1-T DH-AH0 F-Y-UW1 CH-ER0 W-AH1-T D-UW1 Y-UW1 F-AY1-N-D DH-AH0 R-OW1 L-AH1 V-Y-UW1 S-IH0-M P-AO1-R T-AH0-N T-IH0-N DH-AH0 W-ER1-K DH-AE1 T-Y-UW1 D-UW1


it really cuts across every distinction of economic development of geography of culture. there is no country that is immune to violence against-

IH1 T-R-IH1 L-IY0 K-AH1-T S-AH0 K-R-AO1 S-EH1 V-ER0 IY0 D-IH0-S T-IH1-NG-K SH-AH0 N-AH1 V-EH2 K-AH0 N-AA1 M-IH0-K D-IH0 V-EH1 L-AH0 P-M-AH0-N T-AH1-V JH-IY0 AA1 G-R-AH0 F-IY0 AH1-V K-AH1-L CH-ER0 DH-EH1 R-IH1 Z-N-OW1 K-AH1-N T-R-IY0 DH-AE1 T-IH1 Z-IH0 M-Y-UW1-N T-UW1 V-AY1 AH0 L-AH0-N S-AH0 G-EH1-N-S-T


... and that's a very important first step. now we are seeing some 80% of countries in the region with loss to address this issue. but-

AH0-N-D TH-AE1-T S-AH0 V-EH1 R-IY0 IH0-M P-AO1-R T-AH0-N-T F-ER1-S-T-S T-EH1 P-N-AW1 W-IY1 AA1-R S-IY1 IH0-NG S-AH1 M-EY1 T-IY0 P-ER0 S-EH1-N T-AH1-V K-AH1-N T-R-IY0 Z-IH0-N DH-AH0 R-IY1 JH-AH0 N-W-IH1 DH-L-AO1-S T-UW1 AE1 D-R-EH2-S DH-IH1 S-IH1 SH-UW0 B-AH1-T


effective services.what type of work would this be with the police, for instance?

IH0 F-EH1-K T-IH0-V S-ER1 V-AH0 S-W-EY2-T T-AY1 P-AH1 V-W-ER1 K-W-UH1-D DH-IH1-S B-IY1 W-IH1-DH DH-AH0 P-AH0 L-IY1-S F-AO1 R-IH1-N-S T-AH0-N-S


yes, women, migrant workers in asia and the pacific are at risk of discrimination. they-

Y-EH1 S-W-IH1 M-AH0-N M-AY1 G-R-AH0-N T-W-ER1 K-ER0 Z-IH0 N-EY1 ZH-AH0 AH0-N-D DH-AH0 P-AH0 S-IH1 F-IH0 K-AA1 R-AE1 T-R-IH1-S K-AH1-V D-IH0-S K-R-IH2 M-AH0 N-EY1 SH-AH0-N DH-EY1


my name is nick medicus and i'm the director of the community participation group.

M-AY1 N-EY1 M-IH1 Z-N-IH1 K-M-EH1 D-IH0 K-AH0 S-AH0-N D-IH1-M DH-AH0 D-ER0 EH1-K T-ER0 AH1-V DH-AH0 K-AH0 M-Y-UW1 N-AH0 T-IY0 P-AA0-R T-IH2 S-AH0 P-EY1 SH-AH0-N G-R-UW1-P


why have you been so passionate about migrants within the canberra community?my passion for migrants.

W-AY1 HH-AE1 V-Y-UW1 B-IH1-N S-OW1 P-AE1 SH-AH0 N-AH0 T-AH0 B-AW1 T-M-AY1 G-R-AH0-N-T S-W-IH0 DH-IH1-N DH-AH0 K-AE2-N B-EH1 R-AH0 K-AH0 M-Y-UW1 N-AH0 T-AY2 M-IY0 P-AE1 SH-AH0-N F-AO1-R M-AY1 G-R-AH0-N-T-S


you met with first nations peoples, what were your observations there?

Y-UW1 M-EH1 T-W-IH1-DH F-ER1-S T-N-EY1 SH-AH0-N-Z P-IY1 P-AH0-L Z-W-AH1 T-W-ER0 Y-AO1 R-AA2-B Z-ER0 V-EY1 SH-AH0-N-Z DH-EH1-R


to have flow-on effects like the physical health of the community, and the mental health of the community. if they're not consulted, and lack of resources, and things like that.yes.

T-UW1 HH-AE1-V F-L-OW1 AH0 N-IH0 F-EH1-K-T S-L-AY1-K DH-AH0 F-IH1 Z-IH0 K-AH0-L HH-EH1-L TH-AH1-V DH-AH0 K-AH0 M-Y-UW1 N-AH0 T-IY0 AH0-N-D DH-AH0 M-EH1-N T-AH0-L HH-EH1-L TH-AH1-V DH-AH0 K-AH0 M-Y-UW1 N-AH0 T-IY0 IH1-F TH-EH1-R N-AA1-T K-AH0-N S-AH1-L T-AH0 D-AH0-N D-L-AE1 K-AH1 V-R-IY1 S-AO0-R S-IH0 Z-AH0-N-D TH-IH1-NG Z-L-AY1-K TH-EY1 T-IY0-Z


you suggest would be a better way for the government to approach the indigenous communities in australia to alleviate these issues?

Y-UW1 S-AH0-G JH-EH1-S T-W-UH1-D B-IY1 AH0 B-EH1 T-ER0 W-EY1 F-AO1-R DH-AH0 G-AH1 V-ER0 M-AH0-N-T T-UW1 AH0 P-R-OW1-CH DH-AH0 IH0-N D-IH1 JH-AH0 N-AH0-S K-AH0 M-Y-UW1 N-AH0 T-IY0 Z-IH0 N-AO0-S T-R-EY1 L-Y-AH0 T-UW1 AH0 L-IY1 V-IY0 EY2-T DH-IY1 Z-IH1 SH-UW0-Z


for me this would be a) to reorganize the.

F-AO1-R M-IY1 DH-IH1 S-W-UH1-D B-IY1 AH0 T-UW1 R-IY0 AO1-R G-AH0 N-AY2-Z DH-AH0


they know that they are represented by people and sometimes pick buddies of peabody's as well.

DH-EY1 N-OW1 DH-AE1-T DH-EY1 AA1-R R-EH2 P-R-AH0 Z-EH1-N T-AH0-D B-AY1 P-IY1 P-AH0 L-AH0-N-D S-AH0-M T-AY1-M-Z P-IH1-K B-AH1 D-IY0 Z-AH1-V P-IY1 B-AA2 D-IY0 Z-AE1 Z-W-EH1-L


many of the indigenous people don't live close to alice springs, or to darwin.

M-EH1 N-IY0 AH1-V DH-AH0 IH0-N D-IH1 JH-AH0 N-AH0-S P-IY1 P-AH0-L D-AA1-N T-L-AY1-V K-L-OW1-S T-UW1 AE1 L-AH0-S-S P-R-IH1-NG Z-AO1-R T-UW1 D-AA1 R-W-IH0-N


so how to consult those people, how to make sure that they have access to a final decision, or can they have a say?

S-OW1 HH-AW1 T-UW1 K-AH0-N S-AH1-L-T DH-OW1-Z P-IY1 P-AH0-L HH-AW1 T-UW1 M-EY1-K SH-UH1-R DH-AE1-T DH-EY1 HH-AE1 V-AE1-K S-EH2-S T-UW1 AH0 F-AY1 N-AH0-L D-IH0 S-IH1 ZH-AH0 N-AO1-R K-AE1-N DH-EY1 HH-AE1 V-AH0 S-EY1


on decision, they need to find a way to make sure that.

AA1-N D-IH0 S-IH1 ZH-AH0-N DH-EY1 N-IY1-D T-UW1 F-AY1-N D-AH0 W-EY1 T-UW1 M-EY1-K SH-UH1-R DH-AE1-T


a broad consultation is organized on key issues, including those who are living in remote areas.

AH0 B-R-AO1-D K-AA2-N S-AH0-L T-EY1 SH-AH0 N-IH1 Z-AO1-R G-AH0 N-AY2-Z D-AA1-N K-IY1 IH1 SH-UW0 Z-IH0-N K-L-UW1 D-IH0-NG DH-OW1-Z HH-UW1 AA1-R L-IH1 V-IH0 NG-IH0 N-R-IH0 M-OW1 T-EH1 R-IY0 AH0-Z


so would language, like having translators and simple things like having people speaking in language, would that help?

S-OW1 W-UH1 D-L-AE1-NG G-W-AH0 JH-L-AY1-K HH-AE1 V-IH0-NG T-R-AE0-N S-L-EY1 T-ER0 Z-AH0-N-D S-IH1-M P-AH0-L TH-IH1-NG Z-L-AY1-K HH-AE1 V-IH0-NG P-IY1 P-AH0-L-S P-IY1 K-IH0 NG-IH0 N-L-AE1-NG G-W-AH0 JH-W-UH1-D DH-AE1-T HH-EH1-L-P


do you find that women within the indigenous communities are playing a large role in fighting for their rights?

D-UW1 Y-UW1 F-AY1-N-D DH-AE1 T-W-IH1 M-AH0 N-W-IH0 DH-IH1-N DH-AH0 IH0-N D-IH1 JH-AH0 N-AH0-S K-AH0 M-Y-UW1 N-AH0 T-IY0 Z-AA1-R P-L-EY1 IH0 NG-AH0 L-AA1-R JH-R-OW1 L-IH0-N F-AY1 T-IH0-NG F-AO1-R DH-EH1-R R-AY1-T-S


and so when you leave australia today and you think back on the indigenous communities and the people that you've spoken about, what's your first thought that comes to mind?

AH0-N-D S-OW1 W-EH1 N-Y-UW1 L-IY1 V-AO0-S T-R-EY1 L-Y-AH0 T-AH0 D-EY1 AH0-N D-Y-UW1 TH-IH1-NG-K B-AE1 K-AA1-N DH-AH0 IH0-N D-IH1 JH-AH0 N-AH0-S K-AH0 M-Y-UW1 N-AH0 T-IY0 Z-AH0-N-D DH-AH0 P-IY1 P-AH0-L DH-AE1 T-Y-UW1-V-S P-OW1 K-AH0 N-AH0 B-AW1 T-W-AH0-T S-Y-AO1-R F-ER1-S-T TH-AO1-T DH-AE1-T K-AH1-M-Z T-UW1 M-AY1-N-D


so will you be presenting these issues as part of your report?

S-OW1 W-IH1 L-Y-UW1 B-IY1 P-R-IH0 Z-EH1-N T-IH0-NG DH-IY1 Z-IH1 SH-UW0 Z-AE1-Z P-AA1-R T-AH1 V-Y-AO1-R R-IY0 P-AO1-R-T


i mean, for them that's difficult because they don't know the law. lawyers are coming from companies or from the government.

AY1 M-IY1-N F-AO1-R DH-EH1-M TH-AE1-T-S D-IH1 F-AH0 K-AH0-L-T B-IH0 K-AO1-Z DH-EY1 D-AA1-N T-N-OW1 DH-AH0 L-AO1 L-AO1 Y-ER0 Z-AA1-R K-AH1 M-IH0-NG F-R-AH1-M K-AH1-M P-AH0 N-IY0 Z-AO1-R F-R-AH1-M DH-AH0 G-AH1 V-ER0 M-AH0-N-T


this could be remote communities.that could be remote.

DH-IH1-S K-UH1-D B-IY1 R-IH0 M-OW1-T K-AH0 M-Y-UW1 N-AH0 T-IH0 SH-AH0-T K-UH1-D B-IY1 R-IH0 M-OW1-T


indigenous communities. can you see a way through on this problem from happening in the future?

IH0-N D-IH1 JH-AH0 N-AH0-S K-AH0 M-Y-UW1 N-AH0 T-IY0-Z K-AE1 N-Y-UW1 S-IY1 AH0 W-EY1 TH-R-UW1 AA1-N DH-IH1-S P-R-AA1 B-L-AH0-M F-R-AH1-M HH-AE1 P-AH0 N-IH0 NG-IH0-N DH-AH0 F-Y-UW1 CH-ER0


this panel today is a continuum from a conversation we had last year.

DH-IH1-S P-AE1 N-AH0-L T-AH0 D-EY1 IH1 Z-AH0 K-AH0-N T-IH1 N-Y-UW0 AH0-M F-R-AH1 M-AH0 K-AA2-N V-ER0 S-EY1 SH-AH0 N-W-IY1 HH-AE1 D-L-AE1-S T-Y-IH1-R


the gender equity question, for those of you who had the opportunity to come last year.

DH-AH0 JH-EH1-N D-ER0 EH1 K-W-AH0 T-IY0 K-W-EH1-S CH-AH0-N F-AO1-R DH-OW1 Z-AH1 V-Y-UW1 HH-UW1 HH-AE1-D DH-AH0 AA2 P-ER0 T-UW1 N-AH0 T-IY0 T-UW1 K-AH1 M-L-AE1-S T-Y-IH1-R


we had a very rich conversation where we talked about women in jazz, but i think the conversation was a little different.

W-IY1 HH-AE1 D-AH0 V-EH1 R-IY0 R-IH1-CH K-AA2-N V-ER0 S-EY1 SH-AH0 N-W-EH1 R-W-IY1 T-AO1-K T-AH0 B-AW1 T-W-IH1 M-AH0 N-IH0-N JH-AE1-Z B-AH1 T-AY1 TH-IH1-NG-K DH-AH0 K-AA2-N V-ER0 S-EY1 SH-AH0 N-W-AA1 Z-AH0 L-IH1 T-AH0-L D-IH1 F-ER0 AH0-N-T


than some audience members might have.

DH-AE1-N S-AH1 M-AA1 D-IY0 AH0-N S-M-EH1-M B-ER0 Z-M-AY1-T HH-AE1-V


thought we would. so i want to start today by introducing the panel. the panel begins with melissa aldana.

TH-AO1 T-W-IY1 W-UH1-D S-OW1 AY1 W-AA1-N-T T-UW1-S T-AA1-R-T T-AH0 D-EY1 B-AY1 IH2-N T-R-AH0 D-UW1 S-IH0-NG DH-AH0 P-AE1 N-AH0-L DH-AH0 P-AE1 N-AH0-L B-IH0 G-IH1-N Z-W-IH1 DH-M-AH0 L-IH1 S-AH0 AA0-L D-AE1 N-AH0


are two incredible artists in residence for this year's monterey jazz festival.

AA1-R T-UW1 IH0-N K-R-EH1 D-AH0 B-AH0 L-AA1-R T-AH0-S-T S-IH0 N-R-EH1 Z-IH0 D-AH0-N-S F-AO1-R DH-IH1 S-Y-IH1-R Z-M-AA2-N T-ER0 EY1 JH-AE1-Z F-EH1-S T-AH0 V-AH0-L


today. i think it's an important conversation as we look at what's going on in the world.

T-AH0 D-EY1 AY1 TH-IH1-NG K-IH1-T S-AE1 N-IH0-M P-AO1-R T-AH0-N-T K-AA2-N V-ER0 S-EY1 SH-AH0 N-AE1 Z-W-IY1 L-UH1 K-AE1 T-W-AH0-T-S G-OW1 IH0 NG-AA1 N-IH0-N DH-AH0 W-ER1-L-D


the conversation that we had last year, we wanted to talk about equity and what that looked like or what.

DH-AH0 K-AA2-N V-ER0 S-EY1 SH-AH0-N DH-AE1 T-W-IY1 HH-AE1 D-L-AE1-S T-Y-IH1 R-W-IY1 W-AA1-N T-AH0-D T-UW1 T-AO1 K-AH0 B-AW1 T-EH1 K-W-AH0 T-IY0 AH0-N D-W-AH1-T DH-AE1 T-L-UH1-K T-L-AY1 K-AO1 R-W-AH1-T


inequity was looking like. last year, the panel started talking about things that made many of the panelists feel quite uncomfortable.

IH0 N-EH1 K-W-AH0 T-IY0 W-AA1 Z-L-UH1 K-IH0 NG-L-AY1 K-L-AE1-S T-Y-IH1-R DH-AH0 P-AE1 N-AH0-L-S T-AA1-R T-AH0-D T-AO1 K-IH0 NG-AH0 B-AW1-T TH-IH1-NG-Z DH-AE1 T-M-EY1 D-M-EH1 N-IY0 AH1-V DH-AH0 P-AE1 N-AH0 L-IH0-S-T-S F-IY1-L K-W-AY1 T-AH0-N K-AH1-M F-ER0 T-AH0 B-AH0-L


i think, and had had experiences throughout their career that needed to be addressed.

AY1 TH-IH1-NG K-AH0-N-D HH-AE1-D HH-AE1 D-IH0-K-S P-IH1 R-IY0 AH0-N S-IH0-Z TH-R-UW0 AW1-T DH-EH1-R K-ER0 IH1-R DH-AE1 T-N-IY1 D-AH0-D T-UW1 B-IY1 AH0 D-R-EH1-S-T


we're not talking just about equality because sometimes when things are equal.

W-ER0 N-AA1-T T-AO1 K-IH0-NG JH-AH1-S T-AH0 B-AW1 T-IH0 K-W-AA1 L-AH0 T-IY0 B-IH0 K-AO1-Z S-AH0-M T-AY1-M Z-W-EH1-N TH-IH1-NG Z-AA1 R-IY1 K-W-AH0-L


they're still inequitable. we're talking about systems change.

TH-EH1-R-S T-IH1 L-IH0 N-EH1 K-W-AH0 T-AH0 B-AH0 L-W-ER0 T-AO1 K-IH0 NG-AH0 B-AW1-T S-IH1-S T-AH0-M-Z CH-EY1-N-JH


we were being judged. women in jazz were being judged with different standards in mind. and so today.

W-IY1 W-ER0 B-IY1 IH0-NG JH-AH1-JH D-W-IH1 M-AH0 N-IH0-N JH-AE1 Z-W-ER0 B-IY1 IH0-NG JH-AH1-JH D-W-IH1-DH D-IH1 F-ER0 AH0-N-T-S T-AE1-N D-ER0-D Z-IH0-N M-AY1-N D-AH0-N-D S-OW1 T-AH0 D-EY1


and to ask what that experience has been for several of our panelists.

AH0-N-D T-UW1 AE1-S K-W-AH1-T DH-AE1 T-IH0-K-S P-IH1 R-IY0 AH0-N-S HH-AE1-Z B-IH1-N F-AO1-R S-EH1 V-R-AH0 L-AH1 V-AW1 ER0 P-AE1 N-AH0 L-IH0-S-T-S


and i want to begin with two of the panelists that we had last year, ingrid and tia, as we talk about.

AH0-N D-AY1 W-AA1-N-T T-UW1 B-IH0 G-IH1 N-W-IH1-DH T-UW1 AH1-V DH-AH0 P-AE1 N-AH0 L-IH0-S-T-S DH-AE1 T-W-IY1 HH-AE1 D-L-AE1-S T-Y-IH1 R-IH1-NG G-R-IH0 D-AH0-N-D T-IY1 AH0 AE1 Z-W-IY1 T-AO1 K-AH0 B-AW1-T


our panel last year was in september, and then it was before the "me too".

AW1 ER0 P-AE1 N-AH0-L L-AE1-S T-Y-IH1 R-W-AA1 Z-IH0-N S-EH0-P T-EH1-M B-ER0 AH0-N-D DH-EH1 N-IH1 T-W-AA1-Z B-IH0 F-AO1-R DH-AH0 M-IY1 T-UW1


a lot of things happened and today i'd like to talk a little bit.

AH0 L-AA1 T-AH1-V TH-IH1-NG-Z HH-AE1 P-AH0-N D-AH0-N-D T-AH0 D-EY1 IH1 D-L-AY1-K T-UW1 T-AO1 K-AH0 L-IH1 T-AH0-L B-IH1-T


about some of the things that we heard about what was happening in institutions.

AH0 B-AW1-T S-AH1 M-AH1-V DH-AH0 TH-IH1-NG-Z DH-AE1 T-W-IY1 HH-ER1 D-AH0 B-AW1 T-W-AH1 T-W-AA1-Z HH-AE1 P-AH0 N-IH0 NG-IH0 N-IH2-N-S T-IH0 T-UW1 SH-AH0-N-Z


and an example or two of what that inequity looked like then, and then we'll take it from there and go.

AH0-N D-AE1 N-IH0-G Z-AE1-M P-AH0 L-AO1-R T-UW1 AH1 V-W-AH1-T DH-AE1 T-IH0 N-EH1 K-W-AH0 T-IY0 L-UH1-K T-L-AY1-K DH-EH1 N-AH0-N-D DH-EH1 N-W-EH1-L T-EY1 K-IH1-T F-R-AH1-M DH-EH1 R-AH0-N-D G-OW1


that's pretty funny.


as long as you're not disturbed, but it's still.

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that was pretty crazy. anyhow. so we do want to talk about.

DH-AE1 T-W-AA1-Z P-R-IH1 T-IY0 K-R-EY1 Z-IY0 EH1 N-IY0 HH-AW2 S-OW1 W-IY1 D-UW1 W-AA1-N-T T-UW1 T-AO1 K-AH0 B-AW1-T


i won't name any names, but [inaudible 00:00:06].

AY1 W-OW1-N T-N-EY1 M-EH1 N-IY0 N-EY1-M-Z B-AH1 T-IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0-Z Z-IH1 R-OW0 M-IH1 N-AH0-T S-AH0-N-D S-IH1-K-S S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


player comes in the room, boy or girl, that's what their images is, this one louis armstrong picture, which is great. i love louie. and he was an open [inaudible 00:00:15]

P-L-EY1 ER0 K-AH1-M Z-IH0-N DH-AH0 R-UW1-M B-OY1 AO1-R G-ER1-L TH-AE1-T S-W-AH1-T DH-EH1 R-IH1 M-AH0 JH-AH0 Z-IH1-Z DH-IH1 S-W-AH1 N-L-UW1 IH0 S-AA1-R-M-S T-R-AA2-NG P-IH1-K CH-ER0 W-IH1 CH-IH1-Z G-R-EY1 T-AY1 L-AH1 V-L-UW0 IY1 AH0-N-D HH-IY1 W-AA1 Z-AE1 N-OW1 P-AH0 N-IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0-Z Z-IH1 R-OW0 M-IH1 N-AH0-T S-AH0-N-D F-IH0-F T-IY1-N S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


these days. you see an image, "oh, who is that? oh yeah. look at that. bruce colbert. i want to google that. wow. that's good music. i like that. that's going to make me keep playing." absolutely. so without that, it's like [inaudible 00:00:24]

DH-IY1-Z D-EY1 Z-Y-UW1 S-IY1 AE1 N-IH1 M-AH0 JH-OW1 HH-UW1 IH1-Z DH-AE1 T-OW1 Y-AE1 L-UH1 K-AE1-T DH-AE1-T B-R-UW1-S K-OW1-L B-ER0 T-AY1 W-AA1-N-T T-UW1 G-UW1 G-AH0-L DH-AE1 T-W-AW1 TH-AE1-T-S G-UH1 D-M-Y-UW1 Z-IH0 K-AY1 L-AY1-K DH-AE1-T TH-AE1-T-S G-OW1 IH0-NG T-UW1 M-EY1 K-M-IY1 K-IY1-P P-L-EY1 IH0 NG-AE2-B S-AH0 L-UW1 T-L-IY0 S-OW1 W-IH0 TH-AW1-T DH-AE1 T-IH1-T S-L-AY1 K-IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0-Z Z-IH1 R-OW0 M-IH1 N-AH0-T S-AH0-N-D T-W-EH1-N T-IY0 F-AO1-R S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


obviously failed at all of those things, but he [inaudible 00:00:30]

AA1-B V-IY0 AH0 S-L-IY0 F-EY1-L D-AE1 T-AO1 L-AH1-V DH-OW1-Z TH-IH1-NG-Z B-AH1-T HH-IY1 IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0-Z Z-IH1 R-OW0 M-IH1 N-AH0-T S-AH0-N-D TH-ER1 D-IY0 S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


should i apologize already for what i've said? everything i say, i'm going to apologize afterwards because i'm a woman. i'm sorry.

SH-UH1 D-AY1 AH0 P-AA1 L-AH0 JH-AY2 Z-AO0-L R-EH1 D-IY0 F-AO1 R-W-AH1 T-AY1-V S-EH1 D-EH1 V-R-IY0 TH-IH2 NG-AY1 S-EY1 IH1-M G-OW1 IH0-NG T-UW1 AH0 P-AA1 L-AH0 JH-AY2 Z-AE1-F T-ER0 W-ER0-D-Z B-IH0 K-AO1 Z-IH1 M-AH0 W-UH1 M-AH0 N-IH1-M S-AA1 R-IY0


well, i think that perspective of [inaudible 00:00:44]

W-EH1 L-AY1 TH-IH1-NG-K DH-AE1-T P-ER0-S P-EH1-K T-IH0 V-AH1 V-IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0-Z Z-IH1 R-OW0 M-IH1 N-AH0-T S-AH0-N-D F-AO1-R T-IY0 F-AO1-R S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


after i don't have that, or maybe i'm adding on certain struggles in terms of the material that i deal with. i think, i don't know.

AE1-F T-ER0 AY1 D-AA1-N-T HH-AE1-V DH-AE1 T-AO1-R M-EY1 B-IY0 IH1 M-AE1 D-IH0 NG-AA1-N S-ER1 T-AH0-N-S T-R-AH1 G-AH0-L Z-IH0-N T-ER1-M Z-AH1-V DH-AH0 M-AH0 T-IH1 R-IY0 AH0-L DH-AE1 T-AY1 D-IY1 L-W-IH1 DH-AY1 TH-IH1-NG K-AY1 D-AA1-N T-N-OW1


i'm sorry. well, what you're doing is intentional, right? yes. [inaudible 00:01:03]

AY1 AE1-M S-AA1 R-IY0 W-EH1 L-W-AH1 T-Y-UW1 AA1-R D-UW1 IH0 NG-IH1 Z-IH0-N T-EH1-N SH-AH0 N-AH0-L R-AY1 T-Y-EH1 S-IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0 Z-W-AH1-N M-IH1 N-AH0 T-AH0-N-D TH-R-IY1 S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


to do a lot of group lessons. i was usually the only woman, but

T-UW1 D-UW1 AH0 L-AA1 T-AH1-V G-R-UW1 P-L-EH1 S-AH0-N Z-AY1 W-AA1 Z-Y-UW1 ZH-AH0 W-AH0 L-IY0 DH-AH0 OW1 N-L-IY0 W-UH1 M-AH0-N B-AH1-T


the only time that i felt it, but besides that [inaudible 00:01:20]

DH-AH0 OW1 N-L-IY0 T-AY1-M DH-AE1 T-AY1 F-EH1-L T-IH1-T B-AH1-T B-IH0 S-AY1-D-Z DH-AE1 T-IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0 Z-W-AH1-N M-IH1 N-AH0 T-AH0-N-D T-W-EH1-N T-IY0 S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


hi, everybody. i should say that

HH-AY1 EH1 V-R-IY0 B-AA2 D-IY0 AY1 SH-UH1-D S-EY1 DH-AE1-T


actually i was a pretty shy kid. i remember,

AE1-K CH-AH0 W-AH0 L-IY0 AY1 W-AA1 Z-AH0 P-R-IH1 T-IY0 SH-AY1 K-IH1 D-AY1 R-IH0 M-EH1-M B-ER0


i feel like i've been a trained extrovert, but the trumpet really gave me a lot of confidence. it has opened up my personality in ways that

AY1 F-IY1-L L-AY1 K-AY1-V B-IH1 N-AH0 T-R-EY1-N D-EH1-K-S T-R-AH0 V-ER2-T B-AH1-T DH-AH0 T-R-AH1-M P-AH0 T-R-IH1 L-IY0 G-EY1 V-M-IY1 AH0 L-AA1 T-AH1-V K-AA1-N F-AH0 D-AH0-N S-IH1-T HH-AE1 Z-OW1 P-AH0-N D-AH1 P-M-AY1 P-ER2 S-AH0 N-AE1 L-IH0 T-IY0 IH0 N-W-EY1-Z DH-AE1-T


it just was, and i'm not going to use the word "lucky", but

IH1-T JH-AH1-S T-W-AA1 Z-AH0-N D-IH1-M N-AA1-T G-OW1 IH0-NG T-UW1 Y-UW1-Z DH-AH0 W-ER1 D-L-AH1 K-IY0 B-AH1-T


i realize how rare that is now. [inaudible 00:01:47].

AY1 R-IY1 L-AY2-Z HH-AW1 R-EH1-R DH-AE1 T-IH1 Z-N-AW1 IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0 Z-W-AH1-N M-IH1 N-AH0 T-AH0-N-D F-AO1-R T-IY0 S-EH1 V-AH0-N S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


a lot of female students in our band, it turned out that the band director was abusing them. so that's why there were so many girls coming in and out of the program. so it was a negative and i knew it [inaudible 00:01:58]

AH0 L-AA1 T-AH1-V F-IY1 M-EY2-L-S T-UW1 D-AH0-N-T S-IH0 N-AW1 ER0 B-AE1-N D-IH1-T T-ER1-N D-AW1-T DH-AE1-T DH-AH0 B-AE1-N-D D-ER0 EH1-K T-ER0 W-AA1 Z-AH0 B-Y-UW1 Z-IH0-NG DH-EH1-M S-OW1 TH-AE1-T S-W-AY1 DH-EH1 R-W-ER0 S-OW1 M-EH1 N-IY0 G-ER1-L-Z K-AH1 M-IH0 NG-IH0 N-AH0-N D-AW1 T-AH1-V DH-AH0 P-R-OW1 G-R-AE2-M S-OW1 IH1 T-W-AA1 Z-AH0 N-EH1 G-AH0 T-IH0 V-AH0-N D-AY1 N-UW1 IH1 T-IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0 Z-W-AH1-N M-IH1 N-AH0 T-AH0-N-D F-IH1-F T-IY0 EY1-T S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


man, that sucks. [inaudible 00:02:02]

M-AE1-N DH-AE1-T S-AH1-K S-IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0-Z T-UW1 M-IH1 N-AH0-T S-AH0-N-D T-UW1 S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


i'm going to interject his change because there are some incredible evolved men now around us who are so excited about seeing women [inaudible 00:02:11]

AY1 AE1-M G-OW1 IH0-NG T-UW1 IH2-N T-ER0 JH-EH1-K-T HH-IH1-Z CH-EY1-N-JH B-IH0 K-AO1-Z DH-EH1 R-AA1-R S-AH1 M-IH0-N K-R-EH1 D-AH0 B-AH0 L-IH0 V-AA1-L-V D-M-EH1-N N-AW1 ER0 AW1-N D-AH1-S HH-UW1 AA1-R S-OW1 IH0-K S-AY1 T-AH0 D-AH0 B-AW1-T S-IY1 IH0 NG-W-IH1 M-AH0 N-IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0-Z T-UW1 M-IH1 N-AH0-T S-AH0-N D-IH0 L-EH1 V-AH0-N S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


old songs that are racist, or sexist, or both.

OW1-L-D S-AO1-NG-Z DH-AE1 T-AA1-R R-EY1 S-IH0-S T-AO1-R S-EH1-K S-IH0-S T-AO1-R B-OW1-TH


and sometimes i get a response like, "oh, that song is so old. isn't it crazy that people used to think that way?"

AH0-N-D S-AH0-M T-AY1-M Z-AY1 G-EH1 T-AH0 R-IH0-S P-AA1-N S-L-AY1 K-OW1 DH-AE1-T S-AO1 NG-IH1-Z S-OW1 OW1-L D-IH1 S-AH0-N T-IH1-T K-R-EY1 Z-IY0 DH-AE1-T P-IY1 P-AH0 L-Y-UW1-S-T T-UW1 TH-IH1-NG-K DH-AE1 T-W-EY1


and the reason that i choose these songs is because it's actually very current.

AH0-N-D DH-AH0 R-IY1 Z-AH0-N DH-AE1 T-AY1 CH-UW1-Z DH-IY1-Z S-AO1-NG Z-IH1-Z B-IH0 K-AO1 Z-IH1-T S-AE1-K CH-AH0 W-AH0 L-IY0 V-EH1 R-IY0 K-ER1 AH0-N-T


there's a song that i love singing, which is this

DH-EH1-R Z-AH0 S-AO1-NG DH-AE1 T-AY1 L-AH1-V S-IH1 NG-IH0 NG-W-IH1 CH-IH1-Z DH-IH1-S


josephine baker song that she used to do, called if i were white.

JH-OW1 S-AH0 F-IY2-N B-EY1 K-ER0 S-AO1-NG DH-AE1-T SH-IY1 Y-UW1-S-T T-UW1 D-UW1 K-AO1-L D-IH1 F-AY1 W-ER0 W-AY1-T


it's basically about a woman who would love to be a white blonde woman, like the dolls that she sees.

IH1-T-S B-EY1 S-IH0 K-L-IY0 AH0 B-AW1 T-AH0 W-UH1 M-AH0-N HH-UW1 W-UH1 D-L-AH1-V T-UW1 B-IY1 AH0 W-AY1-T B-L-AA1-N D-W-UH1 M-AH0 N-L-AY1-K DH-AH0 D-AA1-L-Z DH-AE1-T SH-IY1 S-IY1-Z


it's in french, unfortunately, so i usually only sing it in france, but i do sometimes invariably get that

IH1-T S-IH0-N F-R-EH1-N CH-AH0-N F-AO1-R CH-AH0 N-AH0 T-L-IY0 S-OW1 AY1 Y-UW1 ZH-AH0 W-AH0 L-IY0 OW1 N-L-IY0 S-IH1 NG-IH1 T-IH0-N F-R-AE1-N-S B-AH1 T-AY1 D-UW1 S-AH0-M T-AY1-M Z-IH0-N V-EH1 R-IY0 AH0 B-L-IY0 G-EH1-T DH-AE1-T


reaction like, "oh, it's so sad that it's such an old song."

R-IY0 AE1-K SH-AH0 N-L-AY1 K-OW1 IH1-T-S S-OW1 S-AE1-D DH-AE1 T-IH1-T-S S-AH1 CH-AE1 N-OW1-L-D S-AO1-NG


and i don't want to respond like, "when i was growing up, that's something that i felt. i felt

AH0-N D-AY1 D-AA1-N T-W-AA1-N-T T-UW1 R-IH0-S P-AA1-N D-L-AY1 K-W-EH1 N-AY1 W-AA1-Z G-R-OW1 IH0 NG-AH1-P TH-AE1-T-S S-AH1-M TH-IH0-NG DH-AE1 T-AY1 F-EH1-L T-AY1 F-EH1-L-T


ugly because i was black."

AH1 G-L-IY0 B-IH0 K-AO1 Z-AY1 W-AA1-Z B-L-AE1-K


and that's something that we never talk about because, especially

AH0-N-D TH-AE1-T-S S-AH1-M TH-IH0-NG DH-AE1 T-W-IY1 N-EH1 V-ER0 T-AO1 K-AH0 B-AW1-T B-IH0 K-AO1 Z-AH0-S P-EH1 SH-L-IY0


in the fact that we're always trying to be positive and say, "black is beautiful and brown girls" [inaudible 00:03:37]

IH0-N DH-AH0 F-AE1-K-T DH-AE1 T-W-ER0 AO1 L-W-EY2-Z T-R-AY1 IH0-NG T-UW1 B-IY1 P-AA1 Z-AH0 T-IH0 V-AH0-N-D S-EY1 B-L-AE1 K-IH1-Z B-Y-UW1 T-AH0 F-AH0 L-AH0-N-D B-R-AW1-N G-ER1-L Z-IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0-Z TH-R-IY1 M-IH1 N-AH0-T S-AH0-N-D TH-ER1 D-IY0 S-EH1 V-AH0-N S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


we also don't necessarily always talk about these very private, horrible, disgusting,

W-IY1 AO1-L S-OW0 D-AA1-N T-N-EH2 S-AH0 S-EH1 R-AH0 L-IY0 AO1 L-W-EY2-Z T-AO1 K-AH0 B-AW1-T DH-IY1-Z V-EH1 R-IY0 P-R-AY1 V-AH0-T HH-AO1 R-AH0 B-AH0-L D-IH0-S G-AH1-S T-IH0-NG


thoughts that we have secretly growing up, and that are actually poisonous.

TH-AO1-T-S DH-AE1 T-W-IY1 HH-AE1-V S-IY1 K-R-IH0 T-L-IY0 G-R-OW1 IH0 NG-AH1 P-AH0-N-D DH-AE1 T-AA1 R-AE1-K CH-AH0 W-AH0 L-IY0 P-OY1 Z-AH0 N-AH0-S


and that end up erasing us. so i guess i am very attracted to those topics and i like to

AH0-N-D DH-AE1 T-EH1-N D-AH1 P-IH0 R-EY1 S-IH0 NG-AH1-S S-OW1 AY1 G-EH1 S-AY1 AE1-M V-EH1 R-IY0 AH0 T-R-AE1-K T-AH0-D T-UW1 DH-OW1-Z T-AA1 P-IH0-K S-AH0-N D-AY1 L-AY1-K T-UW1


sing them, but it's interesting because i [inaudible 00:04:09]

S-IH1-NG DH-EH1-M B-AH1 T-IH1-T S-IH1-N T-R-AH0-S T-IH0-NG B-IH0 K-AO1 Z-AY1 IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0-Z F-AO1-R M-IH1 N-AH0-T S-AH0-N D-N-AY1-N S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


within a genre that is struggling, and that is having difficulty finding its audience. [inaudible 00:04:23].

W-IH0 DH-IH1 N-AH0 ZH-AA1 N-R-AH0 DH-AE1 T-IH1-Z-S T-R-AH1 G-AH0 L-IH0 NG-AH0-N-D DH-AE1 T-IH1-Z HH-AE1 V-IH0-NG D-IH1 F-AH0 K-AH0-L T-IY0 F-AY1-N D-IH0 NG-IH1-T S-AA1 D-IY0 AH0-N S-IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0-Z F-AO1-R M-IH1 N-AH0-T S-AH0-N-D T-W-EH1-N T-IY0 TH-R-IY1 S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


you know,


there were no other brothers really looking at me. really, like some of them, but [inaudible 00:04:32].

DH-EH1 R-W-ER0 N-OW1 AH1 DH-ER0 B-R-AH1 DH-ER0 Z-R-IH1 L-IY0 L-UH1 K-IH0 NG-AE1 T-M-IY1 R-IH1 L-IY0 L-AY1-K S-AH1 M-AH1-V DH-EH1-M B-AH1 T-IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0-Z F-AO1-R M-IH1 N-AH0-T S-AH0-N-D TH-ER1 D-IY0 T-UW1 S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


always encouraged, always pushed, always really told

AO1 L-W-EY2 Z-EH0-N K-ER1 IH0-JH D-AO1 L-W-EY2-Z P-UH1-SH T-AO1 L-W-EY2 Z-R-IH1 L-IY0 T-OW1-L-D


you're "you're smart. you're beautiful. you need to work.

Y-UH1 R-Y-UH1-R S-M-AA1-R T-Y-UH1-R B-Y-UW1 T-AH0 F-AH0 L-Y-UW1 N-IY1-D T-UW1 W-ER1-K


don't settle. you don't" [inaudible 00:04:48].

D-AA1-N-T S-EH1 T-AH0 L-Y-UW1 D-AA1-N T-IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0-Z F-AO1-R M-IH1 N-AH0-T S-AH0-N-D F-AO1-R T-IY0 EY1-T S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


try to extract some of them. when you turn 30, it all changes.

T-R-AY1 T-UW1 IH0-K-S T-R-AE1-K-T S-AH1 M-AH1-V DH-EH1 M-W-EH1 N-Y-UW1 T-ER1-N TH-ER1 D-IY0 IH1 T-AO1-L CH-EY1-N JH-AH0-Z


everybody's listening. so i have a question. yeah. tia i have a question actually.

EH1 V-R-IY0 B-AA2 D-IY0 Z-L-IH1 S-AH0 N-IH0-NG S-OW1 AY1 HH-AE1 V-AH0 K-W-EH1-S CH-AH0 N-Y-AE1 T-IY1 AH0 AY1 HH-AE1 V-AH0 K-W-EH1-S CH-AH0 N-AE1-K CH-AH0 W-AH0 L-IY0


you want to. go ahead. i didn't for at least the first 12 years of my career.

Y-UW1 W-AA1-N-T T-UW1 G-OW1 AH0 HH-EH1 D-AY1 D-IH1 D-AH0-N-T F-AO1 R-AE1 T-L-IY1-S-T DH-AH0 F-ER1-S-T T-W-EH1-L V-Y-IH1-R Z-AH1 V-M-AY1 K-ER0 IH1-R


i hate me a triple doctorate and i suck.

AY1 HH-EY1 T-M-IY1 AH0 T-R-IH1 P-AH0-L D-AA1-K T-ER0 AH0 T-AH0-N D-AY1 S-AH1-K


and but now that i'm wondering, what am i, am i 40 yet? no, i have not. i have to say i'm

AH0-N-D B-AH1 T-N-AW1 DH-AE1 T-AY1 AE1 M-W-AH1-N D-ER0 IH0 NG-W-AH1 T-AE1 M-AY1 AE1 M-AY1 F-AO1-R T-IY0 Y-EH1 T-N-OW1 AY1 HH-AE1 V-N-AA1 T-AY1 HH-AE1-V T-UW1 S-EY1 AY1 AE1-M


50. now i'm 50 something. it's like, why did i waste so much time on that? last night i got on stage with my band and

F-IH1-F T-IY0 N-AW1 AY1 AE1-M F-IH1-F T-IY0 S-AH1-M TH-IH0 NG-IH1-T S-L-AY1 K-W-AY1 D-IH1 D-AY1 W-EY1-S-T S-OW1 M-AH1-CH T-AY1 M-AA1-N DH-AE1 T-L-AE1-S T-N-AY1 T-AY1 G-AA1 T-AA1-N-S T-EY1 JH-W-IH1 DH-M-AY1 B-AE1-N D-AH0-N-D


we just like, it was just a love fest and to be in that space to play like that, it's what i always wanted to

W-IY1 JH-AH1-S T-L-AY1 K-IH1 T-W-AA1-Z JH-AH1-S T-AH0 L-AH1-V F-EH1-S T-AH0-N-D T-UW1 B-IY1 IH0-N DH-AE1-T-S P-EY1-S T-UW1 P-L-EY1 L-AY1-K DH-AE1 T-IH1-T S-W-AH1 T-AY1 AO1 L-W-EY2 Z-W-AA1-N T-AH0-D T-UW1


be in. but i realized that the road is as one of my mentors, freddie hubbard said, "it's takes a long time to get good at this." and i don't think he was just talking about the trumpet when he said that now

B-IY1 IH0-N B-AH1 T-AY1 R-IY1 L-AY2-Z-D DH-AE1-T DH-AH0 R-OW1 D-IH1 Z-AE1 Z-W-AH1 N-AH1 V-M-AY1 M-EH1-N T-ER0-Z F-R-EH1 D-IY0 HH-AH1 B-ER0-D S-EH1 D-IH1-T-S T-EY1-K S-AH0 L-AO1-NG T-AY1-M T-UW1 G-EH1-T G-UH1 D-AE1-T DH-IH1 S-AH0-N D-AY1 D-AA1-N-T TH-IH1-NG-K HH-IY1 W-AA1-Z JH-AH1-S-T T-AO1 K-IH0 NG-AH0 B-AW1-T DH-AH0 T-R-AH1-M P-AH0 T-W-EH1-N HH-IY1 S-EH1-D DH-AE1 T-N-AW1


all of this, like the balance, the sorting, the voices, the whatever and the thing's going to happen to you and snap

AO1 L-AH1-V DH-IH1 S-L-AY1-K DH-AH0 B-AE1 L-AH0-N-S DH-AH0 S-AO1-R T-IH0-NG DH-AH0 V-OY1 S-AH0-Z DH-AH0 W-AH2 T-EH1 V-ER0 AH0-N-D DH-AH0 TH-IH1-NG-Z G-OW1 IH0-NG T-UW1 HH-AE1 P-AH0-N T-UW1 Y-UW1 AH0-N-D S-N-AE1-P


you're on another level. and you weren't really realized, like having a baby

Y-UH1 R-AA1 N-AH0 N-AH1 DH-ER0 L-EH1 V-AH0 L-AH0-N D-Y-UW1 W-EH1 R-AH0-N T-R-IH1 L-IY0 R-IY1 L-AY2-Z D-L-AY1-K HH-AE1 V-IH0 NG-AH0 B-EY1 B-IY0


it's like, things are really stop mattering, practice.

IH1-T S-L-AY1-K TH-IH1-NG Z-AA1-R R-IH1 L-IY0-S T-AA1 P-M-AE1 T-ER0 IH0-NG P-R-AE1-K T-AH0-S


i got this. i don't have time. i'd rather watch

AY1 G-AA1-T DH-IH1 S-AY1 D-AA1-N-T HH-AE1-V T-AY1 M-IH1 D-R-AE1 DH-ER0 W-AA1-CH


and also but they need to hear that from a woman. they do know, then you need to like see somebody that is making it. and he's just strong and be like, no, just don't care. everyone is mean to

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we just need more women that play well, that's my role.

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one of the guys you're like out there with all the guys talking about us and that's cool. that's what they do. and not really.

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they're usually talking about beer

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then that's what they're doing. i believe there should be, a 360 diversity across the whole

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team. one of biggest fields, why we haven't been reading about women and books for so long is because the writers, the critics, there's no diversity in the critics.

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that's true. these not equal equity. so those, but i believe that there is a growing pressure in conversation.

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what she said? it is something that i was going to ask earlier is who are the people

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or making the decisions, who are the people programming, who are the people writing about the music? who are the people running

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the labels who are the agents and the managers like who are,

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what do those people look like?

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maybe it's also like


us starting our own festival somewhere to

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and for those who aren't aware,

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and i don't want to for her, but. and i know you said that you didn't want to speak dr. davis.

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i'm not even go there, but would you like to. and i would just like to

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read this code of conduct to give, i know there are a lot of young women out here,

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who are in institutions and on the scene and doing their thing,

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i see one of my sisters here, but just to give you some tools, feel free to go to "we have voice code of conduct".

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these are some clear guidelines that you can access so that you're not

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i just had an issue with one of my students at berkeley last week where i had admitted another student and she was like, "tia, i'm uncomfortable because something happened

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a couple of years ago. and i've never really dealt with it. and i didn't tell anybody. and now he's here in the ensemble"

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so speak up, go to counseling.

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there's counseling services provided by schools.

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there's friends. there's family. make sure you speak up. the second

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without fear of retaliation, you can read.

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the third one is communicate your institution's

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anti- harassment policies and zero tolerance protocol. the fourth

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one is work collectively to combat bias and stereotypes

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fostering diversity. that's something that we were talking about. what is the space looking like?

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how can your role as an educator or as a student

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how can you foster diversity so that it creates a safer space?

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... what a workplace is for you and for your atmosphere, your environment. also identifying what is consent-

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.... whatever that looks like and this is really deep.

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there's so many different gradients because there's consent and then, we have this power dynamic that kind of coexists with teacher-student-

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right.so you have to really be clear and also in more casual environment-

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you know, there's been times where i played and some dudes just pat me on my behind.

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and it's her first time so be kind.

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find you and escort you out.

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so, that's the only rule that you have and we get to listen to some great music. and again, as i told tia-

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it's knowing who it is. that's okay. that's good.

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but we'll be listening to her articulate reflections on the music after the cut is done.

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also, i wanted to let you know that some of the tunes, like there's one tune is 14 minutes long. i'm going to fade it.

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so, robert, when i go like this, that means to fade the track out. because we-

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... can't sit here and listen to 14 minutes of a song. we've got too many-

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... do. okay. robert is the sound guy. he's shuffling-

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cool. thank you. do you mind if i open it up to the audience to see [crosstalk 00:02:06] if anybody in the audience knows?please.raise of hands, anybody in the audience know who this is? yeah.

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... the mix. any educated guess beyond that?

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okay.he is the leader, the alto saxophonist.

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well, i haven't really checked him out. so, i'm going to have to check him out.

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because it, if i would have... i mean, if i-

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... i think hearing his sound, it would have been almost more immediate.cool.

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so, yeah. and, i mean, i'm just going to be as transparent as possible. because it's like-

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... and yeah, i've never really checked him out. so it's-

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aacm.aacm. yeah. okay. here's the album.

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the tune is called "paper toilet".

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and it's from his 1993 album called "too much sugar for a dime".

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that bill laswell co-produced.

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and it's pretty much henry threadgill's very very circus band.

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so, of course, he's on alto but you have-

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... brandon ross on guitar and gene lake on drums.

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19... what'd i say? 93. thank you.'93. okay.

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yeah, that was out '93. okay. that was around like yellow jackets, a little bit post-

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you know. and it's definitely not mark turner but-

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oh it is?it is.okay. okay. melissa aldana?

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yeah. okay. yeah.


i know that she studied classically and when she, with these got up to the upper register and then through the horn, it was really even. it felt like it was-

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... strongly anchored in that classical tradition and that's what was kind of throwing me off from her. the sound-

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i can't really think of too many women out there that are playing-

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... that i've heard that sounds reflective of that, so.yeah. she's pretty remarkable.

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i think maybe. yeah? no? okay.

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that's what he was dealing with, all right. and i-

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the music, that's something that mccoy tyner said, is it?

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yeah. he was always pressured in, that's what eric dolphy is reminiscing,

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they didn't sound anything alike, but they still inspired each other, which was, they

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were each other's contemporaries. yeah. but they still were inspiring each other and pushing each other, which is really interesting because a lot of people's contemporaries

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[inaudible 00:00:27] are you ready for another one? yes, yes, we're in for the fences here. really? who?

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i'll give you the date that this was from, and you can make an educated guess, 1997. oh, okay. so, who was playing the piano with

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him? are you ready for another one?

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it was, well, i don't know if it's the room,

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i was really trying to center in on the sound of the...

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i don't know who it is,


the recording.


yeah, i don't know who it is.

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cool, should i put it out to the audience? anybody want to make an educated guess as to who this is?

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in this next track is just one tuba, but there is a tuba.

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what did you think about it? yeah, beyond intent, what did you think?

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i was gonna to say james carter?

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no, no. yeah. that's i don't know, the precision of articulation,

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that was one thing that

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kind of made me feel like it was james carter.

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i think he would have gotten more into his solo, during that section,

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but this individual was

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more


from new orleans


that's the strong element of, but i don't,

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i'm trying to put pieces together and i've never been good with puzzles.

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you know what? i'd like you to skip over the next one? okay,

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i have one more too, it's kind of obscure, it was recorded in 1947,

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some people may recognize it, but can we go back to number

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eight?


it's more obscure. it's very obscure, i'm sorry that we playing this with you. no, no, no, no.

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you may not heard the recording through him. oh really? yeah. this song has been passed on several generations,

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picked up on and then forgotten. you know it?

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cordon spark, last song on that, there you go.

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i don't know if she listened to it. hopefully,

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in the beginning it wasn't, then it got just a little bit better. you all were very sweet,

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yeah, it was good, thank you. it was a great experience now that i'm done with it.

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what we talked about before we even went on stage

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the whole thing of being articulate and your reflections, and you were incredibly articulate, we really appreciate that.

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thank you, i appreciate that. so this will be in the downbeat magazine, sometime early next year. so check it out, i'll be transcribing it up.

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the podcast, isabelle, anna, beth, and maggie are a group of women who want it all, and they doing their darnedest to get it all.

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the characters declare this about men; men are a luxury and one i can live without.

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it's interesting, talking about it, sort of the role of man, it actually made me think about how fortunate i am to be in a situation where i do have a husband who is

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loving. i don't think you are, and i think the more you just have to, talking about it helps,

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i hope. i feel like we've been backsliding in a recent political atmosphere

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getting, further along and i think that's what happens. i think it's three steps forward, two steps back.

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i do think that that's what happens. i think it's inevitable that we will gain.

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the handmaid's tale has become very popular again for a reason. right? right

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that is the fear and that's what we're looking at. but besides that, i think that women

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and the men who understand the conflict:

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your husband, my husband, my sons really get it.

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it will start to shift, but it's a shift

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valued less. and one of my colleagues just had a baby and she was really nervous about

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it. i said that breaks my heart, that a woman today has a child and believes that

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she's going to be right. [crosstalk 00:00:38] valued less at work. and i said no. the language around motherhood is, i mean, this is something i've just written about in a nonfiction

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essay. that motherhood is often the language around

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that of selflessness and sacrifice and almost martyrdom. and by that you give up agency, right?

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mm-hmm (affirmative) it's like, i'm going to give myself over to this thing. and what i wanted to say is that motherhood,

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i want to twig that and i want to start thinking if motherhood is something that is a privilege

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and selfish. you put your genes in the world, you put this child in the world,

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someone you will do anything to help put in the world. now, again,

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this is coming from a very privileged place. and i understand that cause i can talk about segments of society,

DH-IH1 S-IH1-Z K-AH1 M-IH0-NG F-R-AH1 M-AH0 V-EH1 R-IY0 P-R-IH1 V-L-AH0-JH-D P-L-EY1 S-AH0-N D-AY1 AH2-N D-ER0-S T-AE1-N-D DH-AE1-T K-AA1 Z-AY1 K-AE1-N T-AO1 K-AH0 B-AW1-T S-EH1 G-M-AH0-N-T S-AH1-V S-AH0 S-AY1 AH0 T-IY0


where this is not true at all. mm-hmm (affirmative). but i write from where i know, where i lived, and that i believe that this

W-EH1-R DH-IH1 S-IH1 Z-N-AA1-T T-R-UW1 AE1 T-AO1-L M-AH1 M-AH0 F-ER1 M-AH0 T-IH0-V B-AH1 T-AY1 R-AY1-T F-R-AH1 M-W-EH1 R-AY1 N-OW1 W-EH1 R-AY1 L-AY1-V D-AH0-N-D DH-AE1 T-AY1 B-IH0 L-IY1-V DH-AE1-T DH-IH1-S


language of sort of giving, it's like you become pregnant,

L-AE1-NG G-W-AH0 JH-AH1-V S-AO1-R T-AH1-V G-IH1 V-IH0 NG-IH1-T S-L-AY1 K-Y-UW1 B-IH0 K-AH1-M P-R-EH1 G-N-AH0-N-T


you walk around with that belly. people feel like they have the right to touch you. they have the right to tell you what to eat.

Y-UW1 W-AO1 K-ER0 AW1-N D-W-IH1-DH DH-AE1-T B-EH1 L-IY0 P-IY1 P-AH0-L F-IY1-L L-AY1-K DH-EY1 HH-AE1-V DH-AH0 R-AY1-T T-UW1 T-AH1 CH-Y-UW1 DH-EY1 HH-AE1-V DH-AH0 R-AY1-T T-UW1 T-EH1 L-Y-UW1 W-AH1-T T-UW1 IY1-T


why shouldn't... that was born out of being pregnant... not being able to find bras and panties that fit [crosstalk 00:01:59] because they're just hideous. right.

W-AY1 SH-OW1-L T-AH0-N-T DH-AE1 T-W-AA1-Z B-AO1-R N-AW1 T-AH1-V B-IY1 IH0-NG P-R-EH1 G-N-AH0-N T-N-AA1-T B-IY1 IH0 NG-EY1 B-AH0-L T-UW1 F-AY1-N-D B-R-AE1 S-AH0-N-D P-AE1-N T-IY0-Z DH-AE1-T F-IH1-T K-R-AO1-S T-AO1-K Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0 Z-W-AH1-N M-IH1 N-AH0 T-AH0-N-D F-IH1-F T-IY0 N-AY1-N S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z B-IH0 K-AO1-Z TH-EH1-R JH-AH1-S-T HH-IH1 D-IY0 AH0 S-R-AY1-T


somebody should be able to look lovely

S-AH1-M B-AA2 D-IY0 SH-UH1-D B-IY1 EY1 B-AH0-L T-UW1 L-UH1 K-L-AH1 V-L-IY0


while we are in this very ripe and beautiful, sensual physical stage of being pregnant.

W-AY1 L-W-IY1 AA1 R-IH0-N DH-IH1-S V-EH1 R-IY0 R-AY1 P-AH0-N-D B-Y-UW1 T-AH0 F-AH0-L S-EH1-N CH-AH0 W-AH0-L F-IH1 Z-IH0 K-AH0-L-S T-EY1 JH-AH1-V B-IY1 IH0-NG P-R-EH1 G-N-AH0-N-T


you either can... it's like the virgin mary, right? you can... you sanctify her in order to take away. and then you don't know anything about her, how powerful is she?

Y-UW1 IY1 DH-ER0 K-AE1 N-IH1-T S-L-AY1-K DH-AH0 V-ER1 JH-IH0-N M-EH1 R-IY0 R-AY1 T-Y-UW1 K-AE1 N-Y-UW1 S-AE1-NG-K T-AH0 F-AY0 HH-ER0 IH0 N-AO1-R D-ER0 T-UW1 T-EY1 K-AH0 W-EY1 AH0-N-D DH-EH1 N-Y-UW1 D-AA1-N T-N-OW1 EH1 N-IY0 TH-IH2 NG-AH0 B-AW1-T HH-ER0 HH-AW1 P-AW1 ER0 F-AH0 L-IH1-Z SH-IY1


i mean, then you can go into that whole... i mean... that's another thing.

AY1 M-IY1-N DH-EH1 N-Y-UW1 K-AE1-N G-OW1 IH0-N T-UW1 DH-AE1-T HH-OW1 L-AY1 M-IY1-N TH-AE1-T S-AH0 N-AH1 DH-ER0 TH-IH1-NG


now you know what they're going through? well, absolutely.

N-AW1 Y-UW1 N-OW1 W-AH1-T TH-EH1-R G-OW1 IH0-NG TH-R-UW1 W-EH1 L-AE2-B S-AH0 L-UW1 T-L-IY0


it's very hard to avoid that you saw it everywhere. and then we moved to america in the mid nineties, and then i sort of kept coming back to india every six months.

IH1-T-S V-EH1 R-IY0 HH-AA1-R-D T-UW1 AH0 V-OY1-D DH-AE1 T-Y-UW1 S-AO1 IH1 T-EH1 V-R-IY0 W-EH2 R-AH0-N-D DH-EH1 N-W-IY1 M-UW1-V-D T-UW1 AH0 M-EH1 R-AH0 K-AH0 IH0-N DH-AH0 M-IH1 D-N-AY1-N T-IY0 Z-AH0-N-D DH-EH1 N-AY1 S-AO1-R T-AH1-V K-EH1-P-T K-AH1 M-IH0-NG B-AE1-K T-UW1 IH1-N D-IY0 AH0 EH1 V-ER0 IY0 S-IH1-K S-M-AH1-N-TH-S


we had our family based there, so my parents brought us back very often. and distance,

W-IY1 HH-AE1 D-AW1 ER0 F-AE1 M-AH0 L-IY0 B-EY1-S-T DH-EH1-R S-OW1 M-AY1 P-EH1 R-AH0-N-T-S B-R-AO1 T-AH1-S B-AE1-K V-EH1 R-IY0 AO1 F-AH0 N-AH0-N-D D-IH1-S T-AH0-N-S


the obvious topic that came to me, because there was just so much material,

DH-AH0 AA1-B V-IY0 AH0-S T-AA1 P-IH0-K DH-AE1-T K-EY1-M T-UW1 M-IY1 B-IH0 K-AO1-Z DH-EH1 R-W-AA1-Z JH-AH1-S-T S-OW1 M-AH1 CH-M-AH0 T-IH1 R-IY0 AH0-L


that right now, there's so much going on and so much that's happening right now that's so horrifying and so shocking and so awful and at the same time

DH-AE1 T-R-AY1 T-N-AW1 DH-EH1-R-Z S-OW1 M-AH1-CH G-OW1 IH0 NG-AA1 N-AH0-N-D S-OW1 M-AH1-CH TH-AE1-T-S HH-AE1 P-AH0 N-IH0 NG-R-AY1 T-N-AW1 TH-AE1-T-S S-OW1 HH-AO1 R-AH0 F-AY2 IH0 NG-AH0-N-D S-OW1 SH-AA1 K-IH0 NG-AH0-N-D S-OW1 AA1 F-AH0 L-AH0-N D-AE1-T DH-AH0 S-EY1-M T-AY1-M


i soon discovered that lizzie was somebody who was never really going to tell me the truth,

AY1 S-UW1-N D-IH0-S K-AH1 V-ER0-D DH-AE1 T-L-IH1 Z-IY0 W-AA1-Z S-AH1-M B-AA2 D-IY0 HH-UW1 W-AA1 Z-N-EH1 V-ER0 R-IH1 L-IY0 G-OW1 IH0-NG T-UW1 T-EH1-L M-IY1 DH-AH0 T-R-UW1-TH


and so because of that, feel like actually it was quite an amazing way to get a story to unfold from a writing perspective.

AH0-N-D S-OW1 B-IH0 K-AO1 Z-AH1-V DH-AE1-T F-IY1-L L-AY1 K-AE1-K CH-AH0 W-AH0 L-IY0 IH1 T-W-AA1-Z K-W-AY1 T-AE1 N-AH0 M-EY1 Z-IH0 NG-W-EY1 T-UW1 G-EH1 T-AH0-S T-AO1 R-IY0 T-UW1 AH0-N F-OW1-L-D F-R-AH1 M-AH0 R-AY1 T-IH0-NG P-ER0-S P-EH1-K T-IH0-V


yeah. and so the question i was trying to get to is what would we build if we got to build it? so you think the house is a tear down? not a [inaudible 00:03:29]

Y-AE1 AH0-N-D S-OW1 DH-AH0 K-W-EH1-S CH-AH0 N-AY1 W-AA1-Z T-R-AY1 IH0-NG T-UW1 G-EH1-T T-UW1 IH1 Z-W-AH1 T-W-UH1 D-W-IY1 B-IH1-L D-IH1 F-W-IY1 G-AA1-T T-UW1 B-IH1-L D-IH1-T S-OW1 Y-UW1 TH-IH1-NG-K DH-AH0 HH-AW1 S-IH1 Z-AH0 T-EH1-R D-AW1-N N-AA1 T-AH0 IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0-Z TH-R-IY1 M-IH1 N-AH0-T S-AH0-N-D T-W-EH1-N T-IY0 N-AY1-N S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


addition? i mean i think that the house is some good foundations but, i think

AH0 D-IH1 SH-AH0 N-AY1 M-IY1 N-AY1 TH-IH1-NG-K DH-AE1-T DH-AH0 HH-AW1 S-IH1-Z S-AH1-M G-UH1-D F-AW0-N D-EY1 SH-AH0-N-Z B-AH1 T-AY1 TH-IH1-NG-K


paid vacation and paid sick time and leave... [crosstalk 00:03:43]

P-EY1-D V-EY0 K-EY1 SH-AH0 N-AH0-N-D P-EY1-D S-IH1-K T-AY1 M-AH0-N D-L-IY1-V K-R-AO1-S T-AO1-K Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0-Z TH-R-IY1 M-IH1 N-AH0-T S-AH0-N-D F-AO1-R T-IY0 TH-R-IY1 S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


but yeah so that's how it started.

B-AH1 T-Y-AE1 S-OW1 TH-AE1-T-S HH-AW1 IH1-T-S T-AA1-R T-AH0-D


cause i'd never heard of the case. i'm just wondering if anyone else listening here when you're two [inaudible 00:04:08] [crosstalk 00:04:08]

K-AA1 Z-IH1 D-N-EH1 V-ER0 HH-ER1 D-AH1-V DH-AH0 K-EY1 S-AY1 AE1-M JH-AH1-S T-W-AH1-N D-ER0 IH0 NG-IH1 F-EH1 N-IY0 W-AH2 N-EH1-L S-L-IH1 S-AH0 N-IH0-NG HH-IY1 R-W-EH1 N-Y-UW1 AA1-R T-UW1 IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0-Z F-AO1-R M-IH1 N-AH0-T S-AH0-N D-EY1-T S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z K-R-AO1-S T-AO1-K Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0-Z F-AO1-R M-IH1 N-AH0-T S-AH0-N D-EY1-T S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


well you know there's lots of reasons. one, i went method, [crosstalk 00:04:17] what better way.

W-EH1 L-Y-UW1 N-OW1 T-IY1 HH-IY1 R-IH1 Z-L-AA1-T S-AH1 V-R-IY1 Z-AH0-N Z-W-AH1 N-AY1 W-EH1-N T-M-EH1 TH-AH0-D K-R-AO1-S T-AO1-K Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0-Z F-AO1-R M-IH1 N-AH0-T S-AH0-N-D S-EH1 V-AH0-N T-IY1-N S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D Z-W-AH1-T B-EH1 T-ER0 W-EY1


they have no idea where they are, so i took it upon myself to say

DH-EY1 HH-AE1 V-N-OW1 AY0 D-IY1 AH0 W-EH1-R DH-EY1 AA1-R S-OW1 AY1 T-UH1 K-IH1 T-AH0 P-AA1-N M-AY2 S-EH1-L-F T-UW1 S-EY1


that's when mr. borden was murdered and then they were sleeping in the room. abby was killed. so i forget the question, but that was awesome.

TH-AE1-T S-W-EH1-N M-IH1-S T-ER0 B-AO1-R D-AH0 N-W-AA1 Z-M-ER1 D-ER0 D-AH0-N-D DH-EH1-N DH-EY1 W-ER0 S-L-IY1 P-IH0 NG-IH0-N DH-AH0 R-UW1 M-AE1 B-IY0 W-AA1-Z K-IH1-L-D S-OW1 AY1 F-ER0 G-EH1-T DH-AH0 K-W-EH1-S CH-AH0-N B-AH1-T DH-AE1 T-W-AA1 Z-AA1 S-AH0-M


that ghost crazy lady [inaudible 00:04:39] and then 10 years until we were holding this book in our hands today.

DH-AE1-T G-OW1-S-T K-R-EY1 Z-IY0 L-EY1 D-IY0 IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0-Z F-AO1-R M-IH1 N-AH0-T S-AH0-N-D TH-ER1 D-IY0 N-AY1-N S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D Z-AH0-N-D DH-EH1-N T-EH1 N-Y-IH1-R Z-AH0-N T-IH1 L-W-IY1 W-ER0 HH-OW1-L D-IH0-NG DH-IH1-S B-UH1 K-IH0 N-AW1 ER0 HH-AE1-N-D-Z T-AH0 D-EY1


so one was, i think i actually didn't really know what i was doing, to be honest with writing this novel. and so i did have quite a few different versions.

S-OW1 W-AH1 N-W-AA1 Z-AY1 TH-IH1-NG K-AY1 AE1-K CH-AH0 W-AH0 L-IY0 D-IH1 D-AH0-N T-R-IH1 L-IY0 N-OW1 W-AH1 T-AY1 W-AA1-Z D-UW1 IH0-NG T-UW1 B-IY1 AA1 N-AH0-S T-W-IH1 DH-R-AY1 T-IH0-NG DH-IH1 S-N-AA1 V-AH0 L-AH0-N-D S-OW1 AY1 D-IH1-D HH-AE1-V K-W-AY1 T-AH0 F-Y-UW1 D-IH1 F-ER0 AH0-N-T V-ER1 ZH-AH0-N-Z


and i would get sort of halfway and go, 'oh, it's just not working.'

AH0-N D-AY1 W-UH1-D G-EH1-T S-AO1-R T-AH1-V HH-AE1 F-W-EY1 AH0-N-D G-OW1 OW1 IH1-T-S JH-AH1-S T-N-AA1 T-W-ER1 K-IH0-NG


but i always had her voice, so i knew that. and so, that's when i decided, well-

B-AH1 T-AY1 AO1 L-W-EY2-Z HH-AE1-D HH-ER0 V-OY1-S S-OW1 AY1 N-UW1 DH-AE1 T-AH0-N-D S-OW1 TH-AE1-T S-W-EH1 N-AY1 D-IH0 S-AY1 D-IH0 D-W-EH1-L


i think i really do... i personally like maltin reader novels and stuff like that.

AY1 TH-IH1-NG K-AY1 R-IH1 L-IY0 D-UW1 AY1 P-ER1 S-AH0 N-AH0 L-IY0 L-AY1 K-M-AE1-L T-IH0 N-R-IY1 D-ER0 N-AA1 V-AH0-L Z-AH0-N-D-S T-AH1 F-L-AY1-K DH-AE1-T


so i kind of thought, well, lizzie is never going to give us a straight story.

S-OW1 AY1 K-AY1-N D-AH1-V TH-AO1 T-W-EH1-L L-IH1 Z-IY0 IH1 Z-N-EH1 V-ER0 G-OW1 IH0-NG T-UW1 G-IH1 V-AH1 S-AH0-S T-R-EY1-T-S T-AO1 R-IY0


is there possibly somebody else? and so actually for a really long time-

IH1-Z DH-EH1-R P-AA1 S-AH0 B-L-IY0 S-AH1-M B-AA2 D-IY0 EH1-L S-AH0-N-D S-OW1 AE1-K CH-AH0 W-AH0 L-IY0 F-AO1 R-AH0 R-IH1 L-IY0 L-AO1-NG T-AY1-M


the house itself was a narrator. and so, we had all-

DH-AH0 HH-AW1 S-IH0-T S-EH1-L F-W-AA1 Z-AH0 N-EH1 R-EY0 T-ER0 AH0-N-D S-OW1 W-IY1 HH-AE1 D-AO1-L


i had all these different things going on. so just over time-

AY1 HH-AE1 D-AO1-L DH-IY1-Z D-IH1 F-ER0 AH0-N-T TH-IH1-NG-Z G-OW1 IH0 NG-AA1-N S-OW1 JH-AH1-S T-OW1 V-ER0 T-AY1-M


i would finish a draft and i'd go, no, there's something wrong with this, and so i would just redo the whole thing over again.

AY1 W-UH1-D F-IH1 N-IH0 SH-AH0 D-R-AE1-F T-AH0-N D-IH1-D G-OW1 N-OW1 DH-EH1-R-Z S-AH1-M TH-IH0 NG-R-AO1 NG-W-IH1-DH DH-IH1 S-AH0-N-D S-OW1 AY1 W-UH1-D JH-AH1-S T-R-IY0 D-UW1 DH-AH0 HH-OW1-L TH-IH1 NG-OW1 V-ER0 AH0 G-EH1-N


i can't stick to one character, so i would write her for a little while.

AY1 K-AE1-N-T-S T-IH1-K T-UW1 W-AH1-N K-EH1 R-IH0-K T-ER0 S-OW1 AY1 W-UH1 D-R-AY1-T HH-ER0 F-AO1 R-AH0 L-IH1 T-AH0 L-W-AY1-L


in that long period, we had a lot of writers live other lives and have other jobs and this flood project going on.yeah. yeah.

IH0-N DH-AE1 T-L-AO1-NG P-IH1 R-IY0 AH0 D-W-IY1 HH-AE1 D-AH0 L-AA1 T-AH1 V-R-AY1 T-ER0 Z-L-AY1 V-AH1 DH-ER0 L-IH1-V Z-AH0-N-D HH-AE1 V-AH1 DH-ER0 JH-AA1-B Z-AH0-N-D DH-IH1-S F-L-AH1-D P-R-AA1 JH-EH0-K-T G-OW1 IH0 NG-OW0 N-IY1 AH0 Y-AE1


how did you better do manage to-

HH-AW1 D-IH1 D-Y-UW1 B-EH1 T-ER0 D-UW1 M-AE1 N-AH0-JH T-UW1


keeping up with family pressures and friends, and did you go around proudly saying "no, no, no-

K-IY1 P-IH0 NG-AH1 P-W-IH1-DH F-AE1 M-AH0 L-IY0 P-R-EH1 SH-ER0 Z-AH0-N-D F-R-EH1-N-D Z-AH0-N-D D-IH1 D-Y-UW1 G-OW1 ER0 AW1-N-D P-R-AW1 D-L-IY0 S-EY1 IH0-NG N-OW1 N-OW1 N-OW1


i am a writer. this is just going to take some time." or were you sort of just doing it on the sly, or?no.

AY1 AE1 M-AH0 R-AY1 T-ER0 DH-IH1 S-IH1-Z JH-AH1-S-T G-OW1 IH0-NG T-UW1 T-EY1-K S-AH1-M T-AY1 M-AO1 R-W-ER0 Y-UW1 S-AO1-R T-AH1-V JH-AH1-S-T D-UW1 IH0 NG-IH1 T-AA1-N DH-AH0 S-L-AY1 AO1-R N-OW0


i got a job on the side. [inaudible 00:01:23].

AY1 G-AA1 T-AH0 JH-AA1 B-AA1-N DH-AH0 S-AY1 D-IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0 Z-W-AH1-N M-IH1 N-AH0 T-AH0-N-D T-W-EH1-N T-IY0 TH-R-IY1 S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D-Z


so i had to do it because how embarrassing.

S-OW1 AY1 HH-AE1-D T-UW1 D-UW1 IH1-T B-IH0 K-AO1-Z HH-AW1 IH0-M B-EH1 R-AH0 S-IH0-NG


and i had traumatized myself too much, and so, and i just wanted to get it done.

AH0-N D-AY1 HH-AE1-D T-R-AO1 M-AH0 T-AY2-Z D-M-AY2 S-EH1-L-F T-UW1 M-AH1 CH-AH0-N-D S-OW1 AH0-N D-AY1 JH-AH1-S T-W-AA1-N T-AH0-D T-UW1 G-EH1 T-IH1-T D-AH1-N


so i think it was just that, and i'm stubborn.

S-OW1 AY1 TH-IH1-NG K-IH1 T-W-AA1-Z JH-AH1-S-T DH-AE1 T-AH0-N D-IH1-M-S T-AH1 B-ER0-N


i know not what to do now. and so the next one-

AY1 N-OW1 N-AA1 T-W-AH1-T T-UW1 D-UW1 N-AW1 AH0-N-D S-OW1 DH-AH0 N-EH1-K-S T-W-AH1-N


i don't think hopefully won't take me 11 years, but also i know just to-

AY1 D-AA1-N-T TH-IH1-NG-K HH-OW1-P F-AH0 L-IY0 W-OW1-N-T T-EY1 K-M-IY1 IH0 L-EH1 V-AH0 N-Y-IH1-R-Z B-AH1 T-AO1-L S-OW0 AY1 N-OW1 JH-AH1-S-T T-UW1


kind of do a couple of things. i feel like i'm taking a shortcut, but it still was hard.

K-AY1-N D-AH1-V D-UW1 AH0 K-AH1 P-AH0 L-AH1-V TH-IH1-NG Z-AY1 F-IY1-L L-AY1 K-IH1-M T-EY1 K-IH0 NG-AH0 SH-AO1-R-T K-AH2-T B-AH1 T-IH1-T-S T-IH1 L-W-AA1-Z HH-AA1-R-D


am i? i was insisting i was. but no, i always kind of feel-

AE1 M-AY1 AY1 W-AA1 Z-IH0-N S-IH1-S T-IH0 NG-AY1 W-AA1-Z B-AH1 T-N-OW1 AY1 AO1 L-W-EY2-Z K-AY1-N D-AH1-V F-IY1-L


it comes across as [inaudible 00:02:03]. it's suffocatingly creepy. it's really-

IH1-T K-AH1-M Z-AH0 K-R-AO1 S-AE1 Z-IH0 N-AO1 D-AH0 B-AH0-L Z-IH1 R-OW0 AW1 ER0-Z T-UW1 M-IH1 N-AH0-T S-AH0-N-D TH-R-IY1 S-EH1 K-AH0-N-D Z-IH1-T-S S-AH1 F-AH0 K-AE2 T-IH0 NG-L-IY0 K-R-IY1 P-IY0 IH1-T S-R-IH1 L-IY0


kind of... i also dislike- well, we know what happened. let's start with that, and then we'll just forget about it. and so.to still be able to build up to such a crescendo.

K-AY1-N D-AH1 V-AY1 AO1-L S-OW0 D-IH0 S-L-AY1 K-W-EH1 L-W-IY1 N-OW1 W-AH1-T HH-AE1 P-AH0-N D-L-EH1-T-S-S T-AA1-R T-W-IH1-DH DH-AE1 T-AH0-N-D DH-EH1 N-W-EH1-L JH-AH1-S-T F-ER0 G-EH1 T-AH0 B-AW1 T-IH1 T-AH0-N-D S-OW1 T-OW0-S T-IH1-L B-IY1 EY1 B-AH0-L T-UW1 B-IH1-L D-AH1-P T-UW1 S-AH1 CH-AH0 K-R-IH0 SH-EH1-N D-OW0


when we have already had the metta, i thought it was really amazing.well-

W-EH1 N-W-IY1 HH-AE1 V-AO0-L R-EH1 D-IY0 HH-AE1-D DH-AH0 M-EH1 T-AH0 AY1 TH-AO1 T-IH1 T-W-AA1 Z-R-IH1 L-IY0 AE2 M-AH0 S-W-IH1 G-AH0-N-D


i'm glad that you found it more interesting to keep going. so that's nice.

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before reading your book. i actually thought, i had a mental image of lizzie borden as being a little girl.yes, that too.

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so she's 32 when the murders happened. her sister is 42.

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so the reason why i always think that because when, even in the pamphlet-

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