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»Enkeltpersoner,man har haft dårlige oplevelser med«
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En lang række taxachauffører i Kolding nægter at køre med somaliere efter en række overfald og røverier, som ifølge chaufførerne er begået af somaliere. Senest blev en chauffør torsdag aften slået med en pistol, hvorefter nogle somaliske røvere tog hans taxa og stak af.
“Jeg har fuld forståelse for, at man ikke vil betjente enkeltpersoner, som man har haft dårlige oplevelser med. Men jeg har bestemt ikke forståelse for, at man afstraffer en hel befolkningsgruppe kollektivt. Det er ganske enkelt ulovligt på den måde at straffe nogen, som ikke har gjort noget forkert ud over at være somalier,” mener lederen af Dokumentations- og rådgiv ningscenteret om racediskrimination (DRC), jurist Niels-Erik Hansen. Hos Krone Taxi bakker formanden op om sine chauffører.
“Der er næsten ingen af vores chauffører, som tør at køre med somalierne mere. De har givet os mange problemer, de sparker på vores biler, hvis de synes, vi holder i vejen, de spytter, truer chaufførerne og stikker af fra regningen. Så jeg har fuld forståelse for chaufførerne,” forklarer Hans Jørgen Aarøe. TV 2
En taxachauffør har “kørepligt”, som det hedder. Men den kan næppe omfatte volds- og hærværksmænd. Jeg har selv kørt taxa, og kender godt de ture man lærer sig at “overse” af bitter erfaring. I øvrigt spørger man sig, hvordan de har råd til at køre i hyrevogn? : Kinesere er oftere i arbejde end somaliere. Blandt somaliere, libanesere og indvandrere fra Irak er der til gengæld problemer. Her er kun 35-37 pct. (21% af kvinderne) i beskæftigelse. Niels-Erik Hansen har her alletiders chance for at gøre lidt nyttigt feltarbejde: Kør taxa i Kolding i seks måneder og kortlæg de “enkelte, dårlige oplevelser”. Ingen vil savne ham. Somaliere i Kolding må enten hæfte kollektivt, eller bringe orden i egne rækker. Selvom der er 700 i Kolding, skulle det være overkommeligt. I praksis kan ingen tvinge en chauffør til at køre med nogensomhelst, uanset hvad DRC mener. Der er ingen lovgivning, der kan erstatte tillid. En salomonisk løsning kunne være at somalierne begyndte at arbejde. Med at køre hyrevogn for somaliere. Byens integrationsråd er selvfølgelig dybt bekymret, og indkalder til…………dialog (Steen).
Historien her giver et vink med en vognstang om mediernes medansvar for skævvredent fokus når emnet er de ædle vilde. Der er her en lighed med tunesersagen, hvor alene denne betegnelse antyder hvad det lynhurtigt kom til at dreje sig om, nemlig en tilrejst udlændings ve og vel, på bekostning af Kurt Westergaards. Allerede i første historie om taxachaufførerne i Kolding er journalisterne ude og få menneskerettighedsindustriens forudsigelige syn på ret og uret her. Medierne behøver ikke partout at vinkle historien så den handler om en velkendt offerkæledæggegruppe. De kunne vælge at vinkle den ud fra det problem som taxachaufførerne har. Ville dette være partisk journalistik? Måske, men det er offergruppeskabelonen altså også, og det har fatale konsekvenser for vores samfunds handlefrihed. Journalister er flokdyr (LFPC).
»Likhetstecken mellan tryckfriheten och att tycka illa om islam«
Set herfra et det mere eksotisk at Hedegaard og Westergaard anmeldes – omtales – i en svensk avis, end i en dansk. Særligt når det er en konvertit som Pernilla Ouis, der skriver videre i den Marathon-diskussion, vi lige så godt én gang for alle kan døbe Rose vs. Seidenfaden. Man kan stige af og på den efter behag, ligesom i metroen eller paternosteren på Christiansborg. Der er løbende afgang:
“I Sverige och Danmark råder fundamentalt olika förhållningssätt till muslimer. Båda länderna är övertygande om att det andra landets hantering av islam är felaktig. Hur ska dessa radikalt motsatta uppfattningar hanteras från ett skånskt Öresundsperspektiv?
I dagarna har två danska böcker utkommit som utmanar islam och tryckfrihetsfrågan. Lars Hedegaards hundra ”bästa” krönikor från Berlingske Tidende – ”Groft sagt” – behöver knappast någon presentation. ”Medinas juvel”, en roman i jagform om Muhammeds barnhustru Aisha, har skapat rubriker i höst efter att publiceringen i Storbritannien stoppats, sedan en islamexpert uttalat att den kan väcka muslimers vrede. Det är ingen tillfällighet att boken snabbt översatts och publicerats i Danmark. […]
”Groft sagt” är idel utläggningar om muslimer som kriminella, kvinnoförtryckande, lögnaktiga och våldsamma. Danskarna däremot är naiva och har gått på lögnen om islam som fredens religion. Jag blir snabbt trött på den sura, cyniska, gubbiga författarröst som framträder. Det är faktiskt inte ett dugg roligt. Jag blir förvirrad av Westergaards teckningar, men definitivt inte road.
Är Hedegaards motbild till muslimer som oskyldiga offer legitim? Den politiskt korrekta sanningsregimen bör utmanas, men får inte ersättas av en annan lika missvisande stereotyp. Muslimer är både offer och förövare, bra och dåliga människor precis som danskarna – en helt trivial iakttagelse, som ändå måste upprepas. För en svensk är det svårt att i efterhand värdera den aktuella bakgrunden till en del krönikor. Vissa av dessa var för grova för att publiceras, och det hade varit intressant om de markerats i boken……….Bara för att de danska böckerna är dåliga betyder det inte att de inte ska publiceras. Danmark har visat att de inte räds att publicera material som provocerar muslimer. De ska ha heder av det. Samtidigt gäller det omvända förhållandet: bara för att något provocerar muslimer är det inte automatiskt värt att publiceras.” Typiskt danskt, typiskt svenskt, Eurozine: Pernilla Ouis adopted the headscarf back in the 1980s at the same time as political Islam began to grow.
Folkpartiet i Södertälje vill ha mångkulturella gatunamn
I en motion till kommunfullmäktige har Folkpartiet föreslagit att Södertäljes gatuskyltar ska få internationella namn som har anknytning till Södertäljes minoritetsgrupper. Folkpartiet menar att Södertälje präglats av sina nya invånare och att det är nu dags att detta avspeglar sig i gatunamnen. Metin Hawsho (fp) som är upphovsman till motionen menar vidare att med gatunamn som refererar till olika kulturer så skulle fler identifiera sig med samhället. På så vis skulle man komma till bukt med våldsamheterna i Södertälje. SD, og LT: Gator ska döpas efter stans minoriteter. Den tanke kan Folkpartisterne så lune sig ved, når de går i fakkeltog mod voldtægterne.
”Public Service handlar inte om att främja en viss nationell identitet”
utan om värdena i ett demokratiskt samhälle (…) Språket, som ju är en av radions grundpelare, är naturligtvis ett problem. Detta är skälet till att vi behöver personal med utländsk bakgrund som också kan bidra till att göra utländsk brytning till något normalt i Sveriges radio…” vd, Kerstin Brunnberg, SR Sveriges radio och andra brutna obegripligheter (brytning = accent)
The Jihadis of Antwerp North og Jihad Training in the Ardennes
Offentliggjort i det belgiske ugemagazin KNACK d. 10 december 2008 (log in). Oversat af bloggen Islam in Europe.
Every year dozens of Muslim youth depart Antwerp for madrassas in Pakistan. But in addition small groups of extremists prepare themselves here in Belgium for Holy War. Flemish convert P. didn’t fall into the trap several years ago, became an informant for the security services, and now tells his story.
“In 2001, I was then seventeen, I didn’t feel good with myself. In my quest I felt more and more attracted to Islam. I had many Moroccan friends. I opposed Israel and supported a Palestinian state. Unwittingly I ended up in a radical community.” Speaking is P., a 25 year old Flemish, who converted to Islam seven years ago. “Newcomers without any background in Islam are the easiest prey for the extremists. They don’t know the religion and believe that what they are taught is the only right way.”
The recruiters who look for new recruits for the radical ideas leave no opportunity unused. Like a type of Jehovah’s Witnesses they go out to win new youth for the ‘true Islam’. They hang around non-profits (VZW), go to football matches and approach youth on the street. “When they hear that I wanted to be Muslim they checked up who I was, how were my relations with my parents, and what friends I had. Then it followed again and again in the same vein: they try to substitute your existing contacts by faith and the mosque. Internet and other cafes are the devils. Contact with infidels is only justified if you get an advantage from it. That I calculatingly wanted to convert in the year of the September 11 attacks yet speeded everything up.”
The whole time P. concealed his new religion and way of life from his nearest surroundings. At the beginning of 2002 his parents did learn about it. Mother couldn’t understand it. Father was afraid of radicalizing.
“Islam was omnipresent in my daily life. Evenings during the week I stayed sometimes till 10pm in the mosque to talk politics. The Americans were the great bogeyman, but also the Pakistani government must be fought because they collaborated with president George W. Bush.”
Luckily for P. a Pakistani friend then convinced him not to go so far. “In that period I got a tape from an imam where Osama Bin Laden was glorified. The federal police in Antwerp found it interesting and wanted to collaborate with me further. It was 2003 and they had then yet little information about the Pakistani extremists in Antwerp.”
The Pakistani mosque Khatim-Al-Anbia on Oranjestraat in Antwerp-North counts already for years as one of the most radical of Antwerp, particularly due to the presence of the extremist movement Khatme Nubuwwat. In 2004 and 2005 two famous Pakistani religious leaders came there. Although the security services were aware of the arrival of Sammy-Ul-Haq and Fazlur Rehman, heads of the Islamic party Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam, the two couldn’t be stopped at the border due to their parliamentary mandate.
Rehman is the son of Mufti Mahmood, who died in 1980, a supporter of the Afghan Jihad against the invasion of the Russians in 1979. Junior pronounced his fatwa against the whole West in 1998 in the Pakistani media, but was yet a few years later named a serious favorite for his country’s premiership. That he didn’t become prime minister had to do particularly with the presence of the US, which couldn’t tolerate an outspoken Taliban friend like Rehman in that position.
P. knows a Kyrgyz who is known in Antwerp as Abdul Aziz. “He had lost his family in his homeland and let himself be carried away by imam Abdul Hameed. Day and night he was back in the mosque. One time I saw him back after a long time. He was just back from the madrassa in Pakistan. Later he departed again. The Pakistanis who come to Belgium during Ramadan confirmed to me that he’s again in Pakistan. But now he’s away already much longer than forty days.”
In the big Moroccan mosque El Muslimin on Jan Palfijnstraat Nordin Taouil was an imam till 2006. Due to his numerous appearances in the media Taouil is one of the most famous imams of Flanders. In the Great Mosque of Brussels he keeps occupied with teaching Belgian converts. Less known is that he’s the man to which the faithful turn to for learning in the madrassas in Pakistan and Algeria. That’s why the infiltrators of the Moroccan intelligence service are also very interested in ins and outs of El Muslimin. Taouil was elected to the Muslim Executive in 2005 with 1360 votes, but he did not get a seat because the State Security Service delivered negative counsel.
Saïd Aberkan is the imam there for the past two years, but he’s not much more than a straw man. Behind the scenes Taouil holds the reins tight.
“Abdul Hameed has Fuad completely in his power,” says P. “Fuad even lives in his house and is on the point of going to learn in a Pakistani madrassa.” Recently the security services have been onto Ellouzati. P. interviewd him at the beginning of this year with a camera while he was cleaning the Omar mosque and thereafter put the movie on YouTube.
Ellouzati calmly delcares there that what happened in Madrid, London and New York can also happen in Belgium. “We are soldiers of Islam. Ultimately every Muslim is a mujahedeen. It’s normal that the Twin Towers and the Pentago were attacked by plane. The Americans wanted to destroy Ilsam. The attacks are then normal, no? We have here in Europe also extreme Muslims. They go over bodies. It’s my right to commit attacks. Even if for that I must take innocent lives.”
The movie is still available on YouTube. Maybe this was the reason why the federal police dropped in on P. two weeks ago. There could be a link with the DVDs that were put into the post boxes of several Flemish media a number of days beforehand. Three agents called in by his parent’s house where he still live. When they heard that he wasn’t home they went to question him at work. After that they forced him and his mother to sign a paper in which he agreed to a house search. So they wouldn’t return 15 minutes later with wailing sirens, close off the whole street and seal up his room, they said.
After P. contacted the federal police in Antwerp in 2003 he decided in 2006 also to report to the State Security Service. For the n-th time he had seen on the street a Moroccan actively recruit young Muslims. Shotly afterwards his good friend Nezir Shala, an Albanian Kosovar, disappeared, he says. “He was a moderate Muslim who warned many youth against radicalizing,” says P. “He was afraid of nobody and gave out brochures advising against suicide attacks. He was threatened and physically attacked till bleeding. People from one’s own community who turn against radicalism, are the greatest enemies of extremists. A moderate Muslim is for them much more dangersou than an infidel. At the end of 2006 Shala left for a short trip to Tilburg. He was to meet a friendly imam. The evening before that he was yet attacked by men of Jamaat Tabligh. When after a while I inquired by his girlfriend where he was, she told me that he never returned from Tilburg.”
P. can only guess where Shala is now. “I tried then to call him. In the best case he’s living in hidign or he returned to his native land. But I fear that he could have been killed off.”
P. craved from Islam something other than a political battle. He wanted to be a moderate Muslim who depelted power from his faith. In all the mosques he visited he determined that there is always somewhere a small group of extremists who gathered also out of the prayer services. The leaders are not rarely intelligent young men who speak several languages, have a permanent job and most fear appearing in a negative light. (Ardennerne v. Bastogne, 2007)
‘JIHAD TRAINING’ IN THE ARDENNES
The ‘Gazet van Antwerpen’ published two weeks ago in its regional edition a photo of several member of the Rissala non-profit organization. That youth center with premises in the area of the Omar mosque on Tulpstraat, had a booth in the neighborhood party at the nearby Van Kerckhovestraat.
“We organize various internal and external activities for the youth. Last week we had even gone orienteering in the Ardennes.” That is true, only the nightly journey in the woods of Agimont next to Dinant wasn’t specifically proposed to the members of Rissala as an orienteering trip, which youth movements organize by the hundreds every weekend. On Friday, October 24, P. got notice that he was ‘invited for the day afterward to go to Jihad training with the Rissala youth to the woods of Agimont’.
He decided not to go, but promised that before the departure on 6pm he’ll pass by the mosque. At 5:40pm he walked in from the Stuivenbergplein into the mosque. The faithful trickled in. Not only youth who were going to Agimont, but also many older people who came to pray for a good outcome. We were parked a few streets further up, in the Viséstraat, several dozen meters from a bus which we suspected was waiting for the young Muslims. This turned out to be right. Our informant kept us informed from the mosque via SMS.
Twenty minutes later the rest of the group also came around the corner. Within a minute fifteen youth in thick clothing sat with their backpacks and other materials in the bus. P. waved them goodbye. An hour and a half later he would yet get a telephone call from Fellous. He asks P. if he hadn’t seen anything suspicious. He suspects that the bus was followed after departure. At that moment the youth of Rissala are almost in Agimont.
“Those men were already indeed here various times,” says Jan Cuylits of Agimont strategy. “They were guided but from a distance.” Cuylits, originally from Antwerp, has no problems that some of those youth roam the Ardennes woods in mujaheddin clothing. “If they walk with their beards and djellaba through the streets of Antwerp, I also have no problems with it. Those men do nothing wrong here. If I refuse them, then I would just have problems. Because then there would be immediately talk of discrimination.”
Most residents of Agimont, a village of 400 people, clearly have a different opinion about it. When the youth of Rissala, during another adventure night in 2007, made too much racket in the parking lot where their minibuses stood, several neighbors called the police. “According to them they were on a warpath,” says inspector Thierry Meinguet of the Haute-Meuse police. “But besides one of those fellows in camouflage clothing, we saw nothing special then.”
“We drove there that evening with rented minibuses” says P., who was then there. “Those men incited themselves with anti-Jewish slogans. From that also the residents of Agimont were seized by fear. In the woods we had to lay a difficult course. We were with our group underway for six hours in total. Halfway through our journey we were suddenly stopped by the police. We had to show our identity cards. There was clearly a communication error between the security services and the local police. While we waited for our buses, [our] pictures were taken out of a car. I suspect that that was the federal police. In any case I had to keep the State Security Service informed by SMS of what took place in the woods.”
Whoever went on a weekend to the Ardennes was written down in the notebook of Jemal Fellous, whose brothers Achmed and Nordine were also active by Rissala. The Fellous family had already gotten in trouble with the law several times and were already sentenced for illegal trade and possession of weapons. In the notebooks which were found in Oma mosque you can see who of Jamaat Tabligh’s members attended training in recent years outside Antwerp. Countless weekends in sites both local and abroad are reported there, but also surprisingly many trip of forty days to Pakistan, the aspiration of every radical Muslim who grows up in the West.
The weekends begin mostly with a lecture at the Tulpstraat. The youth mostly don’t know then yet where they are going. Often it’s mosques in the Netherlands or the suburbs of Paris. But just as well the trip can lead to Liege or Brussels. For tourism there is no time. The youth stay the whole weekend inside the mosque. At night they sleep on the ground in the house of prayer, by the example of the prophet Muhammad. During the day they can expand their network through contact with like-minded people. The rest of the time is spent by praying and listening to the message of the local imam. The discourse is invariably anti-Western, for strengthening their own faith community and against any form of integration.
Ayachi, beter known as “Sheik Bassam” has been one of the most important radical preachers in Brussels for years. Two years ago his son Abdel Rahman Ayachi and webmaster Raphaël Gendron were sentenced to 10 months in prison, half deferred. Additionally both had to pay a fine of 15,000 euro each and 2,5000 euro to the Center for Equal Opportunities and Opposition to Racism that had lodged a complaint. They were found guilty of historical revisionism, minimalism of the Holocaust and inciting to racial hatred, in particular against Jews. Meanwhile it isn’t going well for the sheik too. He was arrested on November 11th in the Italian port city of Bari. He must answer for being an accomplice to illegal immigration. Five non-EU citizens were found in a hidden compartment of his camper, he had wanted to bring them from the Middle East through Greece into Western Europe.
P. didn’t take up the invitation of Fellous to go together to Anderlecht. “The atmosphere was completely different than that time when they went to Agimont. They asked me then also several times to get on the bus, but they didn’t make a point of it that in the end I didn’t join. Now it was much more forceful. I didn’t trust the issue at all. The possibility existed that they wanted to test me or physically attack me. Some radical Muslims in Antwerp know that I was yet an informant. For that last weekend in Anderlecht I really had to think up an excuse in order to keep them off me.”
That Muslims that after a certain time wanted to leave the radical group to which they had belonged were made very uncomfortable. “The pressure is very great,” says Dutch journalist Patrick Pouw, who for 13 months learned by Suhayb Salaam and wrote a book about it. Suhayb Salaam is the son of the imam who refused to shake hands with Rita Verdonk when she was a minister. He is manager of the Islamic Institute for Upbringing and Education (Islamitische Instituut voor Opvoeding & Educatie), a school which educates young men and women to be preachers of Islam. “By me it was than just a regular course by Salafists (radical, anti-Western Muslims). Students who wanted to debate with the teacher or didn’t want to come to the lessons any more were told that they didn’t fulfill the obligations of Allah. While they just learned that there is no greater crime than that.”
Those who dropped out didn’t need to fear physical consequences. “But I can imagine, and that also appears in the crime files, that by groups who commit attacks, such as the Hofstad group here in the Netherlands, such reprisals could well follow.”
That it doesn’t always need to keep to a fistfight or kicking can be seen by the ease with which extremists can get weapons. “At the end of October I myself yet witnessed a weapons deal in which we were collected by two Algerians and a Moroccan contact person in the area of the Brussels Zuid (South) station,” says P. “The merchandise which was put out for us in a garage box contained Kalashnikovs, magnums, and bulletproof vests among other things.”
“I was anyway discovered. A couple of years ago I had anonymous contact with several other media. The stories then didn’t change anything in the radicalization of the Antwerp Muslim youth. By stepping forward, I hope that other moderate Muslims will speak aloud against radicalizing.”
“Some of my brothers who are now leaving for Pakistan, will be chosen after intensive education to travel to military training camps. Till they are ready for the war in Afghanistan or an attack elsewhere in the world. I want that those recruiters will no longer have free reign. As for me: everyone from the radical community knows that I’m that, with or without a photo. The State Security Service dropped me a while back because I communicated with the media. I therefore don’t need to expect much protection any more. If I maintain my anonymity and something happens to me in the coming weeks nobody will be the wiser. Above all, for me it’s a way to definitely stop in one stroke. I’m exhausted, emotionally and psychologically. I’ve provided good work for years for the federal police and the State Security Service. I can look at myself in the mirror.”
Antwerp: The Jihadis of Antwerp North (2) (fotos: Ardennerne, Snaphanen)
“Danmark har visat att de inte räds att publicera material som provocerar muslimer.”
Det er jeg glad for. Uden provokation – ingen dynamik og ingen løsning på problemer med religiøs fundamentalisme. Ligesom jeg er glad for at der trykkes alt muligt andet af interesse og nødvendighed. At det så også evt. kan provokere nogen, ser jeg som udtryk for at vi lever i et pluralistisk og demokratisk land hvor mennesker har ret til at have forskellige opfattelser.
Hvem tror hun at hun er? Hun skal da aldrig nogen sinde bestemme hvad der skal trykkes i et demokratisk land med ytringsfrihed. Hun lyder som en der har herrefolksmentalitet. Som om det at tage religiøse uniform på giver hende ret til at begrænse vores ytringsfrihed. Hun må have spist marcipan gris. Det er vigtigt at huske at der er muslimer som er glade for den fortsatte kritik af islamisme. Det gør vilkårene for frihedssøgende muslimer lettere. Både her og i udlandet. Men hun tænker kun til enden af sin egen næsetip. Enfoldigt vil jeg kalde det. Det der kendetegner hende og mange andre som hende er at hun agerer ekstremt usolidarisk med vores land og med vores frihedsrettigheder og ikke mindst med den vestlige kultur.
Hun viser netop hvor vigtigt Lars Hedegaard og Kurt Westergaards arbejde er.
Jeg ved ikke hvordan denne historie bedst kan beskrives. “En svine-streg”??
http://jp.dk/meninger/breve/article1544549.ece
“The Jihadis of Antwerp North og Jihad Training in the Ardennes”
Antwerp Nord?
Er de skiderikker alle steder?
Ja! Overalt Fine Line, og dem har landenes politikere lukket ind,
mens de sagde racister om os.
Skovområder er tilpas øde til de kan træne våbenbrug, og guerrilia-
taktik, samt partisankrig.
Det kan synes det er nært forestående med en terror-aktion.