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2024-05-13T22:10:59.032680
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-ir
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.034359
| 2015-04-17T00:00:00
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-us-or
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ubuntu-chat
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[16:35] * c_smith hands out nukes
[16:37] <wxl> c_smith: what we supposed to do with these? :)
[16:39] <c_smith> woops, wrong chat.
[16:39] <c_smith> yeah, that shows I'm still waking up. XD
[16:39] <c_smith> I usually mess around like that in #linuxdistrocommunity
[16:39] <c_smith> it's a running joke we have there.
[16:40] <c_smith> wxl, it's looking like this release party might not happen (as you can tell from the recent emails)
[16:40] <c_smith> kinda ran out of time with the little time I had that I wasn't busy
[16:42] <wxl> c_smith: c'est la vie, i guess. i am looking forward to actually being there this time :)
[16:44] <c_smith> yeah, the emails are there to read
[20:52] <bkerensa> c_smith: https://instagram.com/p/1lusVnqJK6/
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.108085
| 2015-04-17T00:00:00
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2015-04-17-#juju
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ubuntu-chat
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[00:49] <jose> jcastro: I have classes, we need to coordinate so I can help you out
[03:00] <beisner> ping ctlaugh_
[06:09] <xenon_> hi there!
[08:39] <gnuoy> jamespage, have you got a sec for https://code.launchpad.net/~gnuoy/charm-helpers/nrpe-proxy/+merge/256626 ?
[09:09] <cmars> hi cory_fu
[09:09] <cory_fu> Hey
[09:09] <cmars> cory_fu, i think you're looking for code.google.com/p/rog-go/exp/cmd/godef
[09:09] <cory_fu> Thanks
[10:09] <jamespage> gnuoy, +1
[10:09] <gnuoy> Thanks
[10:33] <jamespage> gnuoy, just re-testing the freyes revised pxc HA improvements
[10:33] <gnuoy> kk
[11:01] <gnuoy> I've just upgraded from 1.22.1 to 1.23.0 (from proposed ppa) and after the upgrade I seem to have the same symptoms as Bug #1438489 which is fix committed.
[11:01] <mup> Bug #1438489: juju stop responding after juju-upgrade <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Fix Committed by johnweldon4> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438489>
[11:11] <gnuoy> jw4, am I missing something or could that bug still be present?
[11:12] <jw4> gnuoy: I'm concerned that 1.23.0 doesn't have the latest 1.23 fixes
[11:12] <gnuoy> ah, that would be not be ideal
[11:13] <jw4> gnuoy: that change is in the 1.23 branch, but if you're seeing that error then the version of juju you upgraded to can't have that revision ....
[11:13] <jw4> I overheard an issue this morning where the deployed tarball was the wrong version
[11:14] <jw4> so it may be an issue that will be fixed soon
[11:16] <jw4> gnuoy: hmm; If I'm reading the milestones and releases right it might be fixed in 1.23.1 instead of 1.23.0
[11:16] <gnuoy> jw4, Does that mean that the tools juju plucked from streams.canonical.com when I did the upgrade might not have had the fix
[11:16] <gnuoy> oh
[11:19] <jw4> gnuoy: no... the 1.23.0 tag DOES include my fix, so a recent install of 1.23.0 should work (if the tarball was right)
[11:20] <gnuoy> jw4, the tar ball you're referring to is the tools downloaded by juju from streams.c.c ?
[11:21] <jw4> gnuoy: I think so.. whichever mechanism delivers the actual jujud that is upgraded to. One thing I noticed in your bug report... did you see that error message only once? or many times?
[11:21] <gnuoy> let me check, then env is still there
[11:21] <jw4> The 'fix' that I put in converted the hard error into just an error being logged once in the logfile but then continuing normally
[11:21] <gnuoy> s/then/the/
[11:22] <jw4> (so any other symptoms you're seeing may be unrelated to that specific bug)
[11:25] <gnuoy> jw4, I see that message once on each unit, and that appears to be the last message each unit reports
[11:25] <jw4> gnuoy: ok.. so it looks like my fix is in.
[11:25] <jw4> gnuoy: otherwise the message would just keep repeating infinitely.
[11:25] <jw4> gnuoy: what are the follow on symptoms you're seeing? Hooks not firing at all?
[11:26] <gnuoy> jw4, but that message appears to be terminal, nothing happens after
[11:26] <gnuoy> jw4, right, silence in logs and no hook execution
[11:26] <jw4> gnuoy: I'll see if I can reproduce that.
[11:26] <gnuoy> jw4, thank you for all your help
[11:27] <jw4> gnuoy: thanks for reporting :)
[11:50] <jw4> gnuoy: I've reproduced the symptoms
[11:50] <jw4> gnuoy: I'll re-open that bug
[11:51] <gnuoy> jw4, that was quick, thanks!
[11:51] <jw4> gnuoy: thank the team when it's fixed ! :)
[17:51] <francokaerntna> hey, anybody of you know what I need to change in my juju config, so that I get 'public' ips in my maas environment?
[17:52] <francokaerntna> I entered both networks in maas 'network' tab, added 2 interfaces (one of each network) to the cluster, and even 'juju status' is showing me both networks. any clue?
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.113826
| 2015-04-17T00:00:00
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2015-04-17-#xubuntu
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"knome",
"kys_freenode",
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ubuntu-chat
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[01:00] <Mneumonic> Is there a Release Candidate or daily image for Xubuntu 15.04 today?
[01:03] <ObrienDave> yes, find you a link in a sec
[01:04] <Mneumonic> I treid the daily link but the page doesn't load
[01:04] <Mneumonic> i found it!
[01:04] <ObrienDave> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/
[01:05] <Mneumonic> Thanks!
[01:05] <ObrienDave> welcome
[01:05] <Mneumonic> test out the ubuntu mate daily and i liked it, but still prefer xfce
[01:05] <Mneumonic> tested*
[01:05] <ObrienDave> so do i
[01:05] <Mneumonic> Mate has Compiz which I can't stand
[01:39] <puff> Hi, for some reason my printer won't print. xubuntu 14.04 LTS, HP Photosmart 6025. I printed the doc, I go to http://localhost:631, look at the printer, it shows the job as held. I click release and it says "job 170 released for printing", go back to th eprinter page and it says "Processing page 1..." And then, after 10-15 seconds, it's back to held.
[05:28] <liquidsnake> anyone awake
[05:28] <liquidsnake> i'm new to this distro. Just dl'd it and going to give it a test drive
[11:29] <oiu> Running a fresh installation of 14.04.2. It's fine now, but after initially installing I was required to enter my password to (un)mount CDs/reboot. Anyone else encounter this?
[11:29] <oiu> Seems to have fixed itself after upgrades and a few reboots but I was curious if it was specific to my machine.
[13:08] <xubuntu481> Hello, i've got problems with my system
[13:10] <xubuntu481> kernel panic not syncing
[13:10] <xubuntu481> Can anybody help me please?
[13:11] <_1_Karatecitizen> with what?
[13:39] <Saucisse_Cocktai> hi all
[13:39] <Saucisse_Cocktai> Who uses X2go ?
[13:39] <Saucisse_Cocktai> I've got some troubles at using my num pad
[14:59] <resetxx> can someone help me with the PLaces panel app?
[14:59] <Luyin> !meta resetxx
[15:00] <resetxx> when i open a doc with leafpad it is not shown in recent documents
[15:27] <resetxx> OUT!
[17:11] <chrislp> What's the best filesystem to take advantage of ECC ram on Xubuntu?
[17:52] <martinrame> hi, I'm using XUbuntu 14.04 and found a hard to solve issue. After I disconnect to a PPTP VPN, I still can ping to an IP of that network, even if I do "ifconfig" I cannot see anymore the ppp interface. How can I completely detach from the VPN?
[17:59] <martinrame> I must add the IP is not on my network.
[18:19] <xubuntu22w> hello everyone watching. need help with 9.04 Xubuntu
[18:20] <knome> xubuntu22w, xubuntu 9.04 is EOL and not supported
[18:21] <xubuntu22w> am taking a laptop (Dell Latitude 6xx) and placing Xubuntu on it. doesn't matter if 9.04 is supported or not. it is the only release i can fit on a 700mb cd
[18:22] <knome> xubuntu22w, http://xubuntu.org/news/booting-the-xubuntu-usb-image-from-a-cd/
[18:23] <xubuntu22w> am currently has we speak downloading a 617mb iso of 9.04. will this be all that is needed to burn to a cd?
[18:23] <knome> xubuntu22w, yes but it is not supported and i would strongly advise against installing it.
[18:24] <xubuntu22w> have no choice. only have internet access on that laptop. and it only has a cd player on it. no usb port
[18:24] <knome> xubuntu22w, if you follow the link i pasted, you can read the instructions on installing later versions with a CD.
[18:25] <xubuntu22w> if the later versions go pas 700mb i can't use them to burn to a cd
[18:25] <knome> xubuntu22w, 12.04 fits on a 700MB cd, and you can actually upgrade it to 14.04.
[18:26] <xubuntu22w> thanks, i will look into 12.04. i do believe you are mistaken.
[18:29] <xubuntu22w> yea, i went to the website you pasted. it requires the computer to have usb
[18:29] <knome> then use 12.04
[18:29] <knome> or the minimal ISO
[18:29] <knome> !mini
[18:29] <knome> that you can use even for 14.04
[18:31] <xubuntu22w> ok, will go to the next paste you put up. thanks
[18:35] <liquidsnake> do i have to run xubuntu as a live disc sesh every time or can i actually install it on my virtual hdd that i created in virtual box?
[18:36] <knome> liquidsnake, you can absolutely install it.
[18:36] <liquidsnake> ok cool thats what i was thinking but just wanted to make sure
[18:36] <liquidsnake> thanx
[18:39] <xubuntu22w> knome, thankyou. i see i can just get Xubuntu 14.04 on a mini. now i just need to burn it to a cd ... thanks
[18:39] <knome> xubuntu22w, note that you need to select the "xubuntu desktop" task from the minimal ISO
[18:39] <knome> xubuntu22w, it is not done automatically for you
[18:40] <xubuntu22w> understood Knome
[18:40] <knome> xubuntu22w, good luck
[18:40] <knome> and enjoy
[18:40] <xubuntu22w> thanks goodbye
[19:06] <xubuntu42w> hello. I need help please. After installing Xubuntu when loading screen appear it get this error: The disk drive for /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait or Press S to stop mounting or M for manual recovery. After this screen freezes and cant do anything ... I use encrypted home folder and i choose my swap in installation.
[19:23] <xubuntu42w> help pls
[19:24] <kys_freenode> Hi, I am using xfce and when pluggin in my external harddrive it is mounted without any rights (drwx------). How can I change this?
[19:24] <kys_freenode> its ntfs partition
[19:24] <brainwash> xubuntu42w: no one seems to know an answer, try to ask in #ubuntu then
[19:26] <brainwash> kys_freenode: without any rights? the owner can read, write and execute
[19:26] <kys_freenode> yes ok
[19:26] <kys_freenode> but I want to have it 666 or sth so I can access it through nfs
[19:28] <kys_freenode> just tried a ntfs stick which worked as desired..
[19:29] <brainwash> kys_freenode: not sure, looks like a nice question for the ##linux channel
[19:37] <bekks> You have to mount it like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[21:55] <peanuts> hi all, anyone good at sound config?
[21:55] <peanuts> I want to force sound to always come out of the headphones, never the speakers
[21:56] <peanuts> I'm happy to do it hacky - config? write a script that fires a command to revert to headphones every second?
[21:56] <peanuts> does anyone know what underlying audio setup xubuntu is using
[21:57] <peanuts> i remember alsa from back int he day but it's probably not that anymore
[22:00] <knome> pulseaudio
[22:00] <peanuts> thanks
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.132449
| 2015-04-17T00:00:00
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-uk
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ubuntu-chat
|
[00:01] <ball> I'm using Ubuntu for the first time in quite a long while.
[00:04] <ball> For the most part I like it.
[00:05] <ball> It seems to work well on my daughter's computer.
[00:10] <ball> brb
[00:11] <diddledan> hmm, phpmyadmin just surprised me - I created a database and a database_dev and it grouped them in the interface
[00:18] <m0nkey_> it does that
[00:18] <m0nkey_> has done for a while
[00:18] <diddledan> I've not used it in forever
[00:19] <ball> Wht does a database_dev do?
[00:20] * m0nkey_ thorws ball the extra I and L to attach to the word.
[00:23] <ball> I /knew/ there was something dodgy about database people! ;-)
[00:24] <diddledan> ball: I meant database as a generic term for a named database - the point was the _dev was appended to the name of another database
[00:24] <diddledan> so I created <databasename> and <databasename>_dev
[00:25] <ball> Oh, does _dev just signify the development version of a database?
[00:26] <diddledan> it's purely semantic - I just chose _dev arbitrarily to mean just that
[00:26] <m0nkey_> diddledan, http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608025
[00:26] * ball nods
[00:26] <ball> I get it now. Thanks for explaining.
[00:26] <m0nkey_> Weird cpu cooler
[00:26] <m0nkey_> I ordered
[00:26] <diddledan> o_O
[00:27] <diddledan> double decker!
[00:27] <m0nkey_> 120mm & 92mm fans
[00:27] <diddledan> that really is weird
[00:27] <m0nkey_> they say it's comptable with my board, hopefully it is
[00:28] <m0nkey_> In fact, I ordered two different ones. This is the second.
[00:28] <m0nkey_> Turned out the first I ordered wasn't suitable for my TDP
[00:28] <diddledan> :-(
[00:28] <m0nkey_> I got to return the first one. Which would have been perfect.
[00:31] <m0nkey_> My case is already full of Noctua fans
[00:31] <m0nkey_> I'm kinda a fan (heh, get it?) of Noctua
[00:33] <m0nkey_> I found the stock Intel cooler not to be up to snuff
[00:34] <m0nkey_> Especially for gaming
[00:34] <m0nkey_> However, I have the same Intel cooler in my NAS which has a E3 Xeon. That one seems to be just fine.
[00:44] <ball> Oh that's weird. I quite Rhythmbox but it's still playing music.
[00:44] <m0nkey_> It does that
[00:44] <ball> I HUPped it.
[00:45] <ball> That put it out of its misery.
[00:45] <m0nkey_> Why? :-D
[09:06] <directhex_> more importantly, happy directhex's new car day
[09:07] <JamesTait> And happy JamesTait's new MTB drivetrain day. :)
[09:10] <davmor2> JamesTait: close enough right https://www.pinterest.com/pin/135319163775397306/ ← popey you'll like this one :)
[09:10] <popey> catman
[09:11] <davmor2> popey: that has to be it's name and do you think they go in the garden and shout "Dinner, Dinner, Dinner, Dinner Catman" to call hime in?
[09:12] <davmor2> -e
[09:15] <foobarry> http://boingboing.net/2015/04/16/scythe-vs-weedwhacker.html
[09:15] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:17] <JamesTait> davmor2, nice! :)
[09:17] <foobarry> well, i liked all of the origami except the winner which was lame!
[09:21] <davmor2> JamesTait: sneaky see nearly caterday so drop in cat on bat appreciation day :D
[09:22] <popey> the winner had more 'likes'
[09:22] <foobarry> ah that old chestnut
[09:23] <foobarry> i think thats why people often do "the 5 with most likes will be entered into a final where the judges choose"
[09:23] <popey> yeah, that would have been better
[09:24] <foobarry> but hey, its a free comp
[09:24] <foobarry> they can do what they like
[09:25] <foobarry> i was gonna do a unicorn and airbrush the completed thing it in rainbow colours but i got sick :(
[10:20] <diddledan> morning
[10:21] <popey> Yes.
[10:21] <shauno> :(
[10:22] <shauno> this morning seems to be filled with nonsensical tickets from strange countries. I was in no way prepared for this when I crawled out of bed.
[10:22] <diddledan> lol
[10:22] <shauno> Subject: objects fled far away
[10:22] <shauno> "Dear Colleagues, recently I faced with the problem that some of our customers moved in Afghanistan, but they were in Russia. When I try to return object in the desired Russia it disappeared. Have someone of you have this problem and is it a possibility to return the object back."
[10:23] <shauno> (I wouldn't bother reading it twice, it doesn't seem to help)
[10:23] <diddledan> err
[10:26] <zmoylan-pi> send them a cardboard box and a few stamps? :-)
[10:28] <shauno> well, I think there's a very obvious answer. I'm just struggling to put it into polite terms.
[10:28] <zmoylan-pi> ah well, if you're polite the message has no chance to penetrate that skull...
[10:41] <foobarry> write an asnwer and then google translate it into another language and then back again
[10:42] <zmoylan-pi> or run it through 3 different languages to maximise the distortion
[11:39] <MooDoo> yay
[11:40] <zmoylan-pi> realised it's friday or discovered a fiver in pocket you didn't know you had...
[11:44] <davmor2> popey, JamesTait : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2DCExerOsA a suggestion for the name of the release :D
[11:58] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: Wibbling Walrus?
[12:01] <foobarry> woolly woofter?
[12:01] <foobarry> (1980s schoolboy insult)
[12:02] <TwistedLucidity> Wacky Wombat
[12:10] <TwistedLucidity> So I tried some ramdisk network transfers and got ~71MB/s. About 50% of network capacity. A wee bitty better, still suspect I have some config issues.
[12:21] <knightwise> Elementary Freya = prrrretty !
[12:21] <knightwise> have the vm running on a 29 inch widescreen monitor (fullscreen) and its gorgeous
[12:22] <knightwise> and pretty snappy too!
[12:24] <foobarry> yeah its lovely
[12:24] <foobarry> one feature i like is..
[12:25] <foobarry> you get notifications on actions that you ran in the terminal if you susequently switch windows
[12:26] <foobarry> e.g. apt-get dist-upgrade, start using chrome in full screen, get a little notification to say the upgrade finished
[12:26] <foobarry> also ctrl-c and ctrl-v work in terminal as copy paste in context aware manner
[12:34] <knightwise> that is SOO pretty
[12:36] <foobarry> maybe compiz conditioned me into expecting poor performance, but its super fast too innit?
[12:36] <foobarry> try it on bare metal...
[12:39] <ali1234> ctrl-c copies in the terminal??
[12:40] <ali1234> have we found a desktop even more stupid than GNOME?
[12:40] <zmoylan-pi> that would be nice
[12:40] <davmor2> foobarry: unity8 is much faster than unity7 too :)
[12:41] <ali1234> everything is faster than compiz
[12:46] <TwistedLucidity> I remember checking it out a while back (pre-Freya). It did look good.
[12:46] <TwistedLucidity> CTRL-C/V in the terminal catches me out all the time
[12:46] <zmoylan-pi> it should *just* work :-)
[12:47] <foobarry> ali1234: its context aware
[12:47] <foobarry> http://www.veeam.com/endpoint-backup-free.html << for you windows users
[12:48] <ali1234> i don't really see how it can be context aware in a meaningful way
[12:48] <foobarry> . If there is some text selected and you press Ctrl+C it will copy the selected text to clipboard. If no text is selected the default behavior will be applied (end process signal will be sent).
[12:48] <TwistedLucidity> That's pretty neat. In a dangerous sort of way
[12:48] <foobarry> you can disable it if you wish,
[12:49] <foobarry> ctrl-c only kills a running command that isn't in background, which is usually poor practice
[12:49] <ali1234> i can see it going badly
[12:49] <foobarry> thats the kneejerks reaction
[12:49] <ali1234> if you want to copy something from the output of a running process
[12:50] <ali1234> and it scrolls when you are trying to select, clearing the selection
[12:50] <ali1234> and then you accidentally kill it
[12:50] <foobarry> measure twice , cut once, or use middle button :D
[12:50] <ali1234> i always use middle button
[12:50] <ali1234> hat's one reason why i don't like GNOME
[12:51] <foobarry> me too, mianly from habit, although when i have to use a windows VDI session i get annoyed
[12:51] <knightwise> I think gnome3 is pretty slick
[12:51] <foobarry> i tried gnome3 for 6 months and couldn't hack it
[12:51] <foobarry> no looking back from elementary after it released
[12:52] * zmoylan-pi sticks with xfce for now
[12:54] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Did you pay or did you cheat the system by stealing the F/OSS OS? :-P
[12:55] <knightwise> I had elementary running on my macbook air ..
[12:55] <knightwise> (bare metal)
[12:55] <knightwise> it wuzzz perfect !
[12:56] <zmoylan-pi> past tense?
[12:56] <foobarry> funny about the elementary pay comments when i'm prety sure ubuntu tried that pay suggestion page for a while
[12:57] <popey> not quite the same
[12:57] <popey> they're similar, sure.
[12:57] <MooDoo> foobarry: wasn't there an uproar about it years ago? they still going on about it now?
[12:57] <popey> the comments about elementary were because they posted a blog entry telling people that they're "cheating" by downloading for zero
[12:57] <popey> the ubuntu one is still there, and we still get donations from it
[12:57] <TwistedLucidity> I don't think Canoncial insulted folks....
[12:58] <popey> which we use to fund lots of things
[12:58] <popey> (including community developers going to conferences, hardware, event packages etc)
[12:58] <foobarry> popey: didn't they reword the blog almost immediately
[12:59] <popey> no, it took a lot of flak before they re-worded it
[12:59] <foobarry> they mainly encourage adding $$ to bountysource
[12:59] <foobarry> the same day though
[12:59] <popey> They also are a little creative with the truth about where the money goes
[12:59] <foobarry> i didn't even get to read the original as it happened and changed in a night i think
[12:59] <foobarry> https://www.bountysource.com/teams/elementary
[12:59] <popey> yeah, i think cassidy posted it and then went to bed
[13:00] <foobarry> as long as its not abused, then bountysource is a good idea
[13:00] <popey> It's a very pretty desktop, and they've got some nice touches.
[13:00] <foobarry> although i hope it doesn't mean that other bugs don't get fixed
[13:01] <foobarry> shame they fell out with joey omg as omg got a lot more boring since then
[13:01] <foobarry> (about 3 years ago now)
[13:01] <popey> they did?
[13:01] <popey> didn't know that.
[13:01] <foobarry> yeah
[13:01] <foobarry> got a bit frosty
[13:01] <foobarry> they are on talking terms again now
[13:01] <foobarry> but at one point it was a bit awkward
[13:02] <foobarry> joey used to promote them all the time , most days
[13:02] <popey> i think joey gets flak from readers for talking about !ubuntu
[13:03] <popey> mind you he gets flak from everyone
[13:03] <foobarry> i think the disagreement was related to people (inc joey) who suggested they do a ppa for easy access to elementary but the e guys had their goal of making distinct OS
[13:07] <foobarry> i gues elemetnary just started as a cool theme back in the day
[13:08] <popey> yeah
[13:08] <popey> having a ppa would dilute their brand
[13:08] <shauno> it still feels like it pretty much is a ppa? it still uses the ubuntu repos, just adds theirs too
[13:08] <foobarry> lots of dinstrict things now though
[13:08] <foobarry> everything is different
[13:08] <popey> if you install freya, you get ubuntu packages and their ppa
[13:08] <foobarry> even the greeter, terminal, window manager, etc
[13:08] <popey> although I dont see any doc on how they made the iso
[13:09] <popey> so no way of knowing what else is in there
[13:09] <foobarry> you can build yourself,
[13:09] <popey> ubuntu + ppa ?
[13:09] <foobarry> since thats what teh kiddies were doing pre release
[13:09] <shauno> I had a poke around with it, fairly superficially, but noticed they're still using the normal repo, that's all
[13:09] <foobarry> all the desktop env is not common to ubuntu though
[13:09] <popey> this is one reason why I think cinnamon got rid of their stable ppa.
[13:10] <popey> because if you make it too easy to install your special sauce on ubuntu, what's the point of you existing?
[13:10] <popey> someone could do as we did with ubuntu mate, and create a derivative which bypasses them
[13:10] <popey> I think that would worry them.
[13:10] <foobarry> make it easy = more users
[13:10] <foobarry> separate iso = different brand different ideologoy
[13:11] <shauno> stop telling your uses they're pirates = more users
[13:11] <ali1234> what prevents anyone from just downloading all the src debs and putting them in a ppa?
[13:11] <popey> do we know for sure every package on the iso came from the ppa or archive?
[13:11] <popey> if so, yeah, anyone could do that
[13:11] <ali1234> if we don't know that, why don't we know that?
[13:12] <foobarry> i think u guys are looking for issues where there aren't any
[13:12] <ali1234> i think the issue is more with ubuntu
[13:12] <foobarry> i ran ubuntu+ppa= elementary for ages
[13:12] <popey> I'm not looking for any issues.
[13:12] <ali1234> it should be reproducable and self-hosting
[13:12] <foobarry> and realised some stuff didn't work right (notifications , screen lock etc)
[13:12] <foobarry> make ur own iso and be different,
[13:13] <foobarry> not just another ubuntu
[13:13] <ali1234> i should be able to apt-get install launchpad and have it ready to squeeze out ISOs in under a day
[13:13] <ali1234> and those ISOs should be binary identical to the official ones
[13:13] <popey> launchpad doesn't build ISOs
[13:13] <ali1234> it does however build all the packages in those ISOs
[13:13] <popey> indeed.
[13:13] <popey> but the isos are built elsewhere
[13:13] <popey> !info germinate
[13:13] <popey> bah
[13:14] <lubotu3`> germinate (source: germinate): expand dependencies in a list of seed packages. In component main, is optional. Version 2.18 (utopic), package size 19 kB, installed size 89 kB
[13:14] <popey> and other stuff :)
[13:16] <ali1234> it's good that debian is starting to adopt the reproducible build stuff
[13:17] <ali1234> https://reproducible.debian.net/unstable/stats_pkg_state.png
[13:22] <directhex_> mono 4 is reproducible by default, that's a couple of hundred more packages once it goes into the archive
[13:25] <directhex_> ali1234: did you see my proof-of-concept for inserting a backdoor into debian, and why reproducible builds would help?
[13:25] <ali1234> no
[13:26] <directhex_> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2wz8gp/debian_working_on_reproducible_builds/covlz8r
[13:29] <MooDoo> directhex_: why would you want a back door?
[13:29] <popey> proof of concept
[13:29] <MooDoo> ah
[13:30] <directhex_> MooDoo: i wouldn't personally. but an "evil" debian developer could inject whatever they liked into packages used by thousands or millions of people
[13:30] <MooDoo> directhex_: i was speed reading and missed the important part lol
[13:30] <directhex_> an apache patch which accepts a special handshake to give local access, fr'example
[13:30] <foobarry> directhex_: you are proposing test rebuilds of all binaries and checking hashes?
[13:30] <davmor2> MooDoo: to get into the garden normally :P
[13:30] <ali1234> foobarry: he's not proposing it, debian is
[13:30] <directhex_> foobarry: the reproducible builds project proposes this
[13:31] <directhex_> foobarry: we altered mono's compiler to support it
[13:31] <foobarry> oh, i read your comment but not the link :D
[13:31] <MooDoo> directhex_: just wated a video about debian LTS was quite interesting shame they don't have the money or the amount of developers
[13:31] <foobarry> "Debian is working on a new project named “reproducible builds” with the stated goal – It should be possible to reproduce, byte for byte, every build of every package in Debian. "
[13:31] <MooDoo> davmor2: shush you lol
[13:31] <foobarry> i assumed/thought that was already in place...
[13:31] <ali1234> foobarry: not even close unfortunately
[13:31] <directhex_> foobarry: nope
[13:32] <directhex_> foobarry: for the mono example (which i'm most familiar with), .net binaries contain a timestamp, and a GUID, when compiled
[13:32] <ali1234> far too many things embed the hostname of the build machine too
[13:33] <foobarry> surprised debian accepts binaries - the binaries that get put on an iso are surely builds from source though?
[13:33] <directhex_> foobarry: nope!
[13:33] <foobarry> oh
[13:33] <foobarry> launchpad does though?
[13:33] <directhex_> yes!
[13:33] <foobarry> which is probably where my assumption came from, and redhat/centos
[13:33] <directhex_> all launchpad builds are from source... assuming you trust the launchpad sysadmin ^_^
[13:35] <foobarry> i couldn foresee a situation where something bad happens and everyone says "how could this have been allowed to happen!"
[13:35] <foobarry> could*
[13:35] <foobarry> in debian
[13:35] <popey> there was a debian talk at fosdem this year where this was discussed (among other things)
[13:35] <popey> and the "dirty secret" that some packages in the debian archive were built on developer machines
[13:35] <popey> not on buildds
[13:35] <foobarry> yay my grass seed and fork arrived.
[13:36] <popey> http://video.fosdem.org/2015/devroom-distributions/distributions_boring_solved_problem.mp4
[13:36] <directhex_> almsot every package, in fact
[13:37] <directhex_> the debian archive *requires* that devs submit binary packages. the buildd network will compile on other arches as needed
[13:37] <directhex_> e.g. for mono, i compile on my amd64 laptop, which generates amd64 and arch-independent packages. the debian buildd network does the arm, mips, etc, builds
[13:38] <directhex_> so for every package, one arch (usually amd64 or i386) was done on the developer's pc
[13:38] <popey> blimey, didn't realise it was as "bad" as that
[13:38] <directhex_> this status quo hasn't been fixed, for 2 reasons: 1) there are 3 packages that cannot be built on amd64 or i386, but are arch:all once compiled. and we have no way to represent this state in a build-everything-on-debian-infra way
[13:39] <directhex_> 2) it's felt that without requiring binaries, devs might upload buggy source packages that don't in fact compile
[13:40] <foobarry> today i learned what a hoe is for
[13:43] <bashrc_> nice
[13:43] <popey> for growing pumpkins in minecraft
[13:43] <foobarry> apparently its the ideal tool for removing small weeds in your shrub beds
[13:44] <foobarry> my life will never be the same
[13:47] <MooDoo> foobarry: i'm with popey ;)
[13:48] <foobarry> one day i'll actually play MC
[13:48] <foobarry> when its free on android
[13:48] * bashrc_ has never played MC
[13:50] <davmor2> foobarry: it's also useful for quickly chopping in fertiliser to help plant grow too
[13:50] <foobarry> ah, nice
[13:50] <foobarry> or grass seed perhaps?
[13:51] <davmor2> foobarry: no you don't plant grass you lay it on top
[13:51] * diddledan restrains comments about hoes
[13:51] <foobarry> dutch hoes no less
[13:51] <diddledan> oh myy
[13:52] <diddledan> reminds me of the story of the lad with his finger
[13:52] <davmor2> foobarry: then you spend an age trying to stop the bird eating it all
[13:52] <diddledan> lol
[13:52] <foobarry> i bought a net
[14:03] <shauno> oooh, just got home to find new phone waiting for me
[14:03] <diddledan> what'd ya get?
[14:03] <shauno> this ubuntu one. I was nosey
[14:03] <diddledan> heh
[14:06] <shauno> oh. I need a new simcard though. oops
[14:07] <diddledan> heh
[14:07] <diddledan> there's too many different sizes these days
[14:11] <foobarry> i use scissors
[14:11] <knightwise> i'll be moving over to my ubuntu phone fulltime
[14:11] <shauno> scissors won't make my card bigger
[14:14] <foobarry> been locked out of my account 5 times in 2 days :(
[14:14] <foobarry> my work account
[14:17] <shauno> hm. reboot loop. oops
[14:21] <popey> shauno: feel free to join #ubuntu-touch if you want to shout at ubuntu phone devs :)
[14:22] <shauno> lol, not yet. I want to play with it enough that I'm not just whining because it's different
[14:22] <popey> well, a boot loop is an issue :)
[14:22] <shauno> (although yes, first boot, into the indicators, it told me I had to upgrade, so I did. it never came back)
[14:23] <shauno> well, not 'had to', but I figure it's usually a good idea because your platforms itterate fast
[14:23] <popey> never came back?
[14:25] <shauno> it gets to the bq screen, then just flashes on and off like a belisha beacon
[14:25] <shauno> so I did up&power until it gave me a little text menu, tried 'normal boot', it did it again. so this time I'm trying 'recovery', which I'm assuming is the sadface
[14:27] <shauno> hm, nope, recovery goes back to the belisha beacon, just takes longer to get there
[14:28] <popey> would be helpful to raise this in #ubuntu-touch
[14:28] <popey> so we can a) debug and b) fix
[14:28] <shauno> fair enough. gonna go for coffee first though. let it sit and think
[14:28] <shauno> with so few buttons, it seems your options are "press things" or "leave it alone". and I've already tried the first
[14:39] <diddledan> push all the things!
[14:49] <foobarry> get on a webcam and stream it to the phone chan
[14:50] <shauno> heh, it's back
[14:50] <shauno> I think perhaps the upgrade/reboot process is just quite noisy .. it just doesn't look convincing
[14:51] <shauno> getting there :) trying to put an imap client on now (it comes with gmail but not email :(
[14:54] <diddledan> wait, gmail isn't email?
[14:54] <diddledan> :-p
[14:54] <shauno> don't get me started :p
[14:58] <diddledan> popey: the audio on that fosdem video you posted is terrible - it's silent and then suddenly REALLY LOUD BREATHING and then silent again
[14:59] <diddledan> popey: the ubuntu podcast does way better than that :-D
[15:01] <shauno> lol, I just found popey in the store
[15:01] <diddledan> yey?
[15:01] <diddledan> what's he doing in the store?
[15:01] <diddledan> can you watch him browsing through the shelveS?
[15:01] <shauno> telling me the weather, it seems
[15:01] <shauno> I assume it's the same pope, it has that little confused smiley face
[15:02] <diddledan> is it inappropriate to call popey the holy papa?
[15:02] <shauno> yes. you're creepy enough when you're trying not to be
[15:03] <diddledan> lol
[15:03] <diddledan> .. since when have I ever tried not to be creepy?
[15:12] <knightwise> diddledan: you couldn't if you tried
[15:31] <shauno> pft, I need ubuntu to use the ubuntu-sdk? people yell at apple for that :p
[15:34] <popey> you can use vim and adb
[15:35] <shauno> adb is in the android sdk? I think it'll be easier to stick ubuntu in a VM lol
[15:39] <popey> its in the repo
[15:39] <popey> and the sdk ppa
[15:41] <shauno> ah ok. I found the instructions, but still installing ubuntu so hadn't go that far
[15:55] <Myrtti> could someone remind me again how I can find the old kernel packages I can remove to free up space from /boot+
[15:56] * bashrc_ wonders why /boot isn't bigger by default
[15:56] <Myrtti> because I made it that way, probably
[15:56] <zmoylan-pi> sudo apt-get autoremove?
[15:56] <daftykins> apt-get autoremove will remove some older ones, but if you've really got some old cruft on there you should use...
[15:56] <bashrc_> I've also had the same issue in the past. There is a way of clearing out old kernels
[15:56] <daftykins> "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"
[15:57] <daftykins> or just look in /boot and and remove linux-image-3.x.0-##-generic for example
[15:57] <zmoylan-pi> i got 1/4 gb back when i ran it :-)
[15:57] <bashrc_> but these days it's not as if we're pushed for HDD/SDD space, so I don't know why that partition isn't made bigger by default
[15:57] <daftykins> /boot hasn't been a partition for years
[15:57] <Myrtti> it is if you've got encryption
[15:58] <daftykins> in fact i'm not even sure if the installer ever made it one
[15:58] <bashrc_> yes
[15:58] <daftykins> well yeah but you have only to look at the number of tears falling down peoples faces in #ubuntu to have feelings about encryption there :D
[15:58] <bashrc_> I always use full disk encryption these days
[15:58] <daftykins> plus its' major bugs such as yeah - making a tiny /boot
[15:59] <Myrtti> The upgrade needs a total of 99,0 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 20,5 M of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'.
[15:59] <Myrtti> bah
[16:00] <daftykins> Myrtti: yeah, so list the kernels? :)
[16:00] <bashrc_> I suggest that this kind of stuff should be automatic these days
[16:00] <daftykins> or you might have root 5% reserved on which'd take some
[16:01] <daftykins> a quick tune2fs to disable that might help a tiny bit
[16:01] <daftykins> well it is with autoremove - but you can't go stealing someones older kernels automatically :) you need a fallback sometimes
[16:02] <bashrc_> true, but the average user probably doesn't need to keep five kernels and when this problem occurs it breaks system updates
[16:03] <daftykins> only for those with nuts partitioning :> so as long as the encrypted /boot size has been fixed in the installer, it should be good
[16:04] <Myrtti> I swear to god I already uninstalled these once
[16:04] <daftykins> use purge perhaps
[16:05] <daftykins> i did have someone the other day who i told to remove them, then they were still there in /boot - was a bit weird
[16:05] <Myrtti> yeah, purge is a given
[16:06] <daftykins> i don't think so, not normally necessary
[16:42] <davmor2> m/me listening to Stairway to Heaven LOUD why cause it's still sounds great :D
[16:42] <davmor2> -m at front don't know where that came from
[16:44] <zmoylan-pi> that's the keyboard vibrating under your hands...
[16:51] <daftykins> :>
[16:51] * daftykins does a Waynes World and points at the "No Stairway" sign in the music shop
[16:57] <zmoylan-pi> denied...
[17:02] <davmor2> 404: Stairway not found
[17:02] <daftykins> hahaha
[17:02] <daftykins> i finally reinstalled my web server VM to trusty last night \o/
[17:03] <daftykins> very smooth just scp'ing over the document root, setting up a clean install with the same passwords then a quick mysql dump of the database and restore
[17:03] <daftykins> but my word how the apache2 configs have changed since 10.04 :P
[17:04] <zmoylan-pi> ok i want to see this film :-D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72RqpItxd8M&feature=youtu.be
[17:04] <daftykins> can you say what it is so i don't have to click? ;)
[17:05] <intrbiz> daftykins: is 10.04 Apache 2.0 ?
[17:06] <zmoylan-pi> and miss out the supreme 80ness and cliche ridden wonderfull ness of kung fury?? :-)
[17:06] <shauno> reminds me of one I heard re: traffic volumes. a highway to hell vs a stairway to heaven
[17:06] <daftykins> intrbiz: yip
[17:28] <shauno> curious, does android have a swipe-action on every edge like this too?
[17:28] <brobostigon> like this? ubuntu touch?
[17:29] <shauno> yeah
[17:29] <brobostigon> not on its own, but there is certain sw to add similer, yes.
[17:30] <brobostigon> like gmd gesturecontrol.
[17:33] <shauno> hm, okay. just curious where they got that idea from. most of it's pretty logical, bar that
[17:33] <Myrtti> where did I see someone giving a tip on Chrome on HiDPI?
[17:34] <Myrtti> was it popey
[17:34] <popey> no
[17:34] <Myrtti> it was yesterday or today... gah
[18:09] <shauno> well, I'm curious to see what I can build on it. but I'm not sure I'll actually use it as a phone. the UI is just way too combersome
[18:14] <davmor2> MooDoo, popey: you guys should be owld enough to know the lyrics "Please allow me to introduce myself, I'm a man of wealth and style"
[18:19] <ali1234> shauno: the android camera app has edge swiping
[18:20] <ali1234> most apps don't have an action on every single edge
[18:20] <ali1234> most of the standard ones use the left edge for opening the sidebar
[18:20] <shauno> I think I'm just frustrated because the most common thing I find myself doing is repeatedly trying to hit the little < to go back a page
[18:21] <shauno> eg, read an email, go to read the next email .. you're stabbing tiny targets to get back to the mailbox
[18:21] <shauno> there's probably a lot of ios bias there where that's what I assume the left side is for
[18:22] <shauno> but I'm not sure it helps that while you can swipe left/right on the header bar in scopes, you can't do the same for the header bar anywhere else
[18:22] <ali1234> ingmail the left and right edges move to the previous/next email thread when in message view
[18:22] <ali1234> in mailbox view it opens the sidebar
[18:22] <ali1234> oh and you don't need to swipe from the edge
[18:23] <ali1234> also theres two back buttons, the OS one at the bottom and one in the top left
[18:23] <shauno> right, I'm on the ubuntu one .. no hardware back
[18:23] <ali1234> my phone can't reliably tell the difference between a swipe and a tap anyway
[18:23] <ali1234> oh yeah the ubuntu UI is a bit strange
[18:23] <ali1234> it used to be you had to swipe up from the bottom to open a menu before you could even see the back button
[18:24] <ali1234> i don't know what it's like these days but i heard they got rid of that bottom menu entirely
[18:25] <shauno> (I'd also love to know how to stop the 'vibrate any time I tap anything' thing. I thought I turned it off in the settings, but a couple of apps still do it regardless)
[18:25] <ali1234> report bugs
[18:25] <ali1234> then go to irc and complain loudly
[18:26] <ali1234> then when they sarcastically ask if you reported a bug, whip out the URL
[18:41] <daftykins> ali1234: not very funny to enable #ubuntu-ees to act even more atrociously :(
[18:41] <daftykins> unless this is another thing :D
[18:42] <ali1234> what is ubuntu-ees?
[19:14] <diddledan> is it time to stop working yet?
[21:17] <diddledan> ooh, I got a reply from canonical legal :-)
[21:18] <diddledan> "we're looking into your request and will get back to you shortly"
[21:22] <intrbiz> diddledan: request for what?
[21:23] <diddledan> trademark usage
[21:27] <shauno> o_O
[21:30] <popey> for what?
[23:02] <ali1234> Azelphur: do you know of a self-hosted video streaming platform like twitch.tv?
[23:02] <ali1234> (or anyone else)
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"authors": [
"lazyPower",
"mbruzek"
],
"channel": "#juju-gui",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:6",
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[19:30] <mbruzek> rick_h_: ping
[19:31] <mbruzek> Does quickstart deploy local charms?
[19:32] <lazyPower> short answer is no
[19:32] <lazyPower> better answer is: it could
[19:33] <lazyPower> https://launchpad.net/juju-quickstart
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"authors": [
"Letozaf_",
"balloons"
],
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[19:51] <Letozaf_> balloons, hey
[19:52] <balloons> Letozaf_, hello hello!
[19:52] <Letozaf_> balloons, :) I fixed this as you asked: https://code.launchpad.net/~carla-sella/ubuntu-calendar-app/calendar-management-tests/+merge/256202
[19:52] <Letozaf_> balloons, if you got time :)
[19:55] <balloons> oO, yes I was hoping I'd see something!
[19:55] <balloons> really nice!
[19:56] <Letozaf_> balloons, :D
[19:56] <balloons> I like it.. If jenkins is happy, so am I
[19:56] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok, so let's see what jenkins says :)
[20:23] <Letozaf_> balloons, :D Jenkins approved :P
[20:26] <balloons> approved :-)
[20:26] <Letozaf_> balloons, \o/
[20:27] <balloons> Letozaf_, so the doc viewer guys were hoping to get some help next.. interested?
[20:27] <Letozaf_> balloons, sure :)
[20:28] <balloons> Letozaf_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docviewer-app/+bug/1418652 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docviewer-app/+bug/1428040 they said were priority
[20:28] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok
[20:29] <balloons> do you have there contact info?
[20:29] <Letozaf_> balloons, nope, are the contact info in launchpad ?
[20:30] <balloons> https://launchpad.net/~verzegnassi-stefano
[20:30] <balloons> he's italian as well :-)
[20:30] <Letozaf_> balloons, yeah looks like :P
[20:31] <Letozaf_> lol
[20:37] <Letozaf_> balloons, cool looks like he is from northern Itlay too :D
[20:45] <balloons> nice
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-bugs
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"authors": [
"cprofitt",
"wxl",
"zlmao"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-bugs",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:8",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-bugs.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
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[03:31] <zlmao> shang: I'm do demo at user side. My Maas shows that depolying is failed.
[03:32] <zlmao> shang: It is "failed deployment". The same for the physical node too.
[03:33] <zlmao> Sorry. I should switch to other channel for it.
[17:34] <cprofitt> hello -- have a strange issue on my 15.04 and not sure how to report the bug
[17:34] <cprofitt> when I empty trash I got another file window opening...
[17:34] <wxl> cprofitt: i'd report it against the file manager.
[17:35] <cprofitt> wxl: thanks.
[17:35] <wxl> np cprofitt
[17:36] <cprofitt> wxl that is just called files now; correct?
[17:36] <wxl> cprofitt: yikes i'm not sure being a mostly lubuntu user
[17:38] <cprofitt> eh, looking like the package is still nautilus
[17:58] <cprofitt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1445595
[17:58] <cprofitt> if anyone would like to triage
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.168210
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2015-04-17-#cloud-init
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"authors": [
"Odd_Bloke",
"smoser"
],
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"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:9",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23cloud-init.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
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[13:22] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: When do/should cloud-init bugs get marked as Fix Released in the cloud-init LP project?
[13:23] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, i do it with release of the bug in a version.
[13:23] <smoser> ie, when 0.7.6 releases all those go to fix-released.
[13:23] <smoser> and ubuntu fix-released when ubuntu gets fixed.
[13:24] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Cool, so I don't need to pay attention and do the marking myself when appropriate?
[13:24] <smoser> well, it wouldn't hurt :)
[13:24] <smoser> its a pain
[15:17] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: What are your thoughts on https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1403617 ?
[15:18] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: My comment lays out the decision we need to make.
[15:21] <smoser> how do we not match with roject level keys now ?
[15:22] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, ie "we already don't match the GCE docs in the way we handle project-level keys so this may be a foolish consistency."
[15:23] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: I _think_ that we put all of the keys on the ubuntu user, even when they're defined against different users.
[15:23] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: But I may not be recalling that correctly.
[15:25] <smoser> how do they get defined for different users ?
[15:25] <smoser> we do put them on the ubuntu user for user.
[15:25] <smoser> sure
[15:28] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Keys come from GCE as a list of "<user>:<key>" strings.
[15:28] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Which GCE infers from the comment (e.g. "... dwatkins" will come as "dwatkins:...") in the user interface.
[15:29] <Odd_Bloke> But you just pass in a mapping to the instance creation API.
[15:30] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: We then trim the first half off before setting 'public-keys' in self.metadata (using the _trim_key function).
[15:30] <smoser> ah. i see.
[15:31] <smoser> i think you should override the per-project keys with per-instance if available.
[15:31] <Odd_Bloke> So if I defined {'dwatkins': 'ssh-rsa foo', 'smoser': 'ssh-rsa bar'}, we'd get both 'ssh-rsa foo' and 'ssh-rsa bar' on the ubuntu user.
[15:31] <Odd_Bloke> (And the Google scripts would create dwatkins and smoser users with the appropriate keys)
[15:31] <smoser> can we know the difference between "no instance keys given" and "instance keys given as empty string"
[15:31] <smoser> with the latter implying intent to have no ssh access
[15:32] <Odd_Bloke> I'll have a look; I _suspect_ not, but I'll confirm.
[15:35] <Odd_Bloke> Ah, we can; sshKeys is passed as a normal metadata attribute, and so if none are specified then the key isn't present.
[15:35] <Odd_Bloke> Let me confirm that the web UI behaves the same as the CLI client.
[15:37] <smoser> i'd just like to support that behavior
[15:38] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, so my general feeling here is that it makes sense to try to do what the cloud vendor wants.
[15:38] <smoser> however, i'm *more* interested in consistency of ubuntu across vendors
[15:38] <smoser> than i am in ubuntu's consistency with other vms on a given vendor
[15:38] <smoser> make sense?
[15:39] <smoser> i care more about ubuntu than i do GCE
[15:39] <Odd_Bloke> Yep, on the same page.
[15:40] <Odd_Bloke> So you're saying you think that 'empty instance keys' is approximately equal to (e.g.) no key given when starting an EC2 instance?
[15:42] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, yeah.
[15:42] <smoser> i think so. right ?
[15:43] <smoser> that could be achieved easily ehought though, by creating a key named "NOONE@NOWHERE"
[15:44] <smoser> and promptly shredding the private key
[15:46] <Odd_Bloke> Yeah.
[15:46] <Odd_Bloke> Let me see what GCE does if I manually set an empty string through the API.
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-nz
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"hads"
],
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"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:10",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-nz.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
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[01:28] <hads> I'd kind of suck that Android can't just work with a ICS file directly for a read only calendar.
[01:28] <hads> s/I'd/It's/
[01:30] <hads> I'm incorporating the MBIE NZ Public Holidays calendar as I had before through Google Calendar. I can just put it on the server and grab it through Radicale but it's silly that you can't just import it directly.
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-gnome
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{
"authors": [
"Noskcaj",
"tuchkata"
],
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"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:11",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-gnome.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
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[21:31] <tuchkata> anyone tried
[21:31] <tuchkata> 15.04 with Gnome 3.16?
[21:39] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Do we want the packaged extra gnome shell extensions in the staging PPA? most need upstream patches for 3.16
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.181982
| 2015-04-17T00:00:00
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-x
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{
"authors": [
"bandit-awake",
"bandit-led",
"bennabiy",
"furkan",
"tjaalton"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-x",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:12",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-x.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
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[13:01] <bennabiy> Did a recent update drop driver support for Intel Mobile 4 Series chipsets?
[13:03] <tjaalton> no
[13:27] <bennabiy> I am only able to pull up video, either through a liveCD or LTSP booting, when using VESA driver, otherwise the screen flickers and goes blank about 10 seconds post grub menu
[13:27] <bennabiy> but the system is up and running, just no display
[13:29] <tjaalton> and only one kernel installed to choose from?
[13:32] <tjaalton> if you say it's a regression then try the previous kernels
[14:32] <bennabiy> only one kernel installed
[14:33] <bennabiy> I am trying to remote into the system to see if there are any errors.
[14:33] <tjaalton> so what do you mean "recent update"?
[14:33] <tjaalton> what version is this? and the kernel?
[14:34] <tjaalton> if vivid, make sure you have at least 3.19.0-13
[14:34] <bennabiy> trusty
[14:34] <tjaalton> installed when?
[14:35] <bennabiy> just now
[14:35] <bennabiy> 3.13.0-49-generic
[14:36] <bennabiy> using X.org 1.15.1
[14:36] <tjaalton> the image doesn't have that kernel, did you manually remove the install kernel?
[14:36] <tjaalton> use a release image
[14:37] <bennabiy> This is an LTSP installed chroot, but it also happens from a linuxmint 17.1 liveCD
[14:38] <tjaalton> so nomodeset works? get the relevant bits of a non-working boot from /var/log/kern.log and put it somewhere
[14:39] <bennabiy> nomodeset works, just 640x480
[14:39] <tjaalton> yes
[14:43] <bennabiy> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8830478
[14:43] <bennabiy> from a machine which lost video, but I can remote in
[14:43] <tjaalton> what hw is it?
[14:44] <bennabiy> this is a hp st5742
[14:44] <bennabiy> thin client
[14:44] <bennabiy> it was just working on a previous install, and when I did a fresh install of 14.04 / mint 17.1 the video on the server is fine, but not on the clients generated from the repositories
[14:45] <bennabiy> nor from the live CD
[14:45] <bennabiy> which is strange, but once again, nomodeset works there
[14:46] <bennabiy> When 14.04 first came out, these had no problems with the graphics, but something changed with the latest 14.04
[14:46] <tjaalton> then you need to install earlier kernels and bisect which broke it
[14:46] <bennabiy> I have 3 other labs all running fine with the same hardware, and this one was running 13.04 just fine
[14:47] <bennabiy> do you have a suggestion as to which one to go back to?
[14:47] <tjaalton> 14.04 installer comes with -24
[14:47] <tjaalton> no
[14:47] <tjaalton> file a bug
[14:47] <tjaalton> test these
[14:48] <bennabiy> So try -24, if it works,... ?
[14:48] <tjaalton> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/linux
[14:48] <tjaalton> you get the earlier ones there
[14:48] <tjaalton> remember to install -extra too
[14:49] <bennabiy> ok
[14:49] <tjaalton> if you say stock 14.04 worked
[14:49] <tjaalton> best to try -24 to rule out it's not something else messing things
[14:50] <tjaalton> use the latest of -XX.YY, so for -24 test -24.47
[14:50] <bennabiy> ok
[14:50] <bennabiy> let me try that.
[14:57] <bennabiy> ok, so installed linux-image-extra-3.13.0-24-generic as well as same without extra
[14:58] <bennabiy> any other packages that I would need to install?
[15:00] <tjaalton> not at this point
[15:01] <bennabiy> trying it now
[15:01] <bennabiy> hrm. -24 did not work
[15:02] <tjaalton> so your setup is busted
[15:02] <bennabiy> same thing happened at the same point
[15:05] <bennabiy> what should I do about it?
[15:06] <bennabiy> nomodeset works, which means that the basic functionality of the system works
[15:06] <bennabiy> How can I pinpoint what is "busted"?
[15:07] <tjaalton> I don't know how you build your ltsp setup, and don't care to know either. but something in it is not ok if stock trusty doesn't work either
[15:13] <bennabiy> This is not just happening with LTSP, but also with a liveCD it does the same thing
[15:16] <tjaalton> and doesn't work on any machines of the same kind?
[15:16] <tjaalton> the hw could be broken too
[15:19] <bennabiy> Even though it was just working on a 13.04 system?
[15:19] <bennabiy> and works when I boot back into that system?
[15:20] <bennabiy> 3.8 kernel
[15:21] <tjaalton> you said trusty worked
[15:22] <tjaalton> anyway, same applies.. find out where it broke
[15:22] <bennabiy> I know it worked at a different location with the same hardware
[15:23] <bennabiy> I have 2 other labs running the same hardware clients, with 14.04 installed (with linuxmint 17) which I think were installed before 14.04.2
[15:24] <bennabiy> I appreciate your input, I want to track this down.
[15:24] <bennabiy> I am downloading a fresh copy of the ISO to make a live USB, will test to see if stock 14.04.2 works
[15:26] <bennabiy> here is a copy from dmesg. https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8830489
[15:27] <tjaalton> rule out hw issues first
[15:28] <tjaalton> cabling etc
[15:28] <tjaalton> [ 14.279246] [drm] GMBUS [i915 gmbus panel] timed out, falling back to bit banging on pin 3
[15:28] <bennabiy> Would cabling be the issue if it is displaying just fine up to that point?
[15:28] <tjaalton> fair point :)
[15:28] <tjaalton> still
[15:29] <tjaalton> dunno
[15:29] <bennabiy> I am not saying you are wrong... just wondering ;)
[15:29] <tjaalton> easy to verify
[15:29] <tjaalton> I'm off ->
[15:30] <bennabiy> Thanks for your help
[15:47] <bennabiy> If I needed to test an older image of 14.04 (pre .2) where would I go?
[15:51] <bennabiy> I am getting this error in [drm] GMBUS [i915 gmbus panel] timed out, falling back to bit banging on pin 3 and am unable to see anything on the screen after a brief flicker
[15:52] <bennabiy> Does the same thing with an Ubuntu 14.04.2 liveCD as well as a linuxmint 17.1 (based on 14.04.2) liveCD. 14.04 stock worked, as well as mint 17 stock
[16:23] <tjaalton> releases.ubuntu.com
[17:13] <bennabiy> thank you again tjaalton
[17:13] <bennabiy> I have searched there, but still not finding the stock 14.04
[17:14] <bennabiy> bah, found it :)
[17:15] <bennabiy> actually, I did not find it...
[17:15] <bennabiy> I am looking for 1386 14.04 image
[17:55] <tjaalton> old-releases.u.c
[17:57] <bennabiy> tjaalton: thanks. that did it
[19:39] <bennabiy> tjaalton: This is strange, would there be something which would cause the displayport to not work once it hits a certain point?
[19:39] <bennabiy> I hooked up a VGA monitor and it worked fine
[19:39] <bennabiy> but I hook up to the display port and it does not
[19:39] <bennabiy> but if I boot to a different install, the display port works fine
[20:50] <bandit-led> any idea how to get dkms to build and install nvidia properly? I like to run it after a kernel update but it is not working since nvidia-uvm was added to nvidia
[20:50] <bandit-led> sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia works but i have to install the kernel then reboot and rebuild the module and restart again
[20:53] <bandit-led> running NVIDIA binary driver - version 346.59
[20:55] <bandit-led> sudo dkms install -m nvidia -v 346-346.59 -k 4.0.0-rc1-02232015 is what i usually run
[20:55] <bandit-led> just changing the kernel and nvidia versions
[20:57] <bandit-led> hmm nap time maybe i will get a response by the time i get up from my nap :)
[22:31] <furkan> interesting, i tried compiling mesa from git on Ubuntu 15.04, following the instructions on freedesktop.org, and it works perfectly fine
[22:31] <furkan> i dunno why 14.04 was so problematic
[22:33] <furkan> when i add the file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d to point to /opt/xorg/lib, Xorg just segfaults
[22:59] <bandit-awake> hmmm this channell seems sleepy
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.200119
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-server
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ubuntu-chat
|
[00:10] <andre_pl> this live disk doesn't have smartctl, how can I get the serial number of a drive? I'm not sure which one I just wiped :)
[00:11] <sarnold> try lshw?
[00:12] <andre_pl> there we go, thanks :)
[00:19] <andre_pl> so, I booted my machine back into its original os (the same hardware that just had a working array) and on startup I get: mdadm: superblock on /dev/sdd doesn't match others - assembly aborted. then a bit further down [....] Cleaning up temporary files...
[00:19] <andre_pl> but it seems hung there
[00:31] <andre_pl> it eventually booted but theres no sign of the array here... :\
[00:31] <andre_pl> nothing in /proc/mdstat or mdadm --detail
[00:37] <ebonics> having an issue with dovecot.. it's not sending AUTH LOGIN. if anyone can check if my configs are wrong thatd be great: https://dpaste.de/aqcb
[00:40] <sarnold> ebonics: is there anything inthe logs?
[00:42] <ebonics> sarnold, not in mail.log or mail.err, but i have a feeling it's just configured wrong
[00:42] <sarnold> ebonics: does dovecot have its own log file?
[00:43] <ebonics> sarnold, afaik it just logs to those two
[00:43] <zerowaitstate> ebonics: it often does. rsyslogd has a config file that routes some syslog traffic to different files
[00:43] <andre_pl> anyone have any thoughts as to why the live CD auto assembled my array, but an older debian install won't due to the non-matching superblock?
[00:44] <andre_pl> or how I can safely correct it?
[00:44] <ebonics> hmm ok ill investigate zerowaitstate thanks
[00:46] <ebonics> ok sarnold zerowaitstate it's just using method=PLAIN
[00:47] <ebonics> is there some reason why it would default to that?
[00:48] <zerowaitstate> as opposed to what?
[00:48] <ebonics> auth_mechanisms = plain login
[00:48] <ebonics> isn't login a method?
[00:49] <zerowaitstate> what type of login mechanism do you want?
[00:49] <ebonics> i thought that "LOGIN" was a mechanism, which explains the AUTH LOGIN smtp packet header
[00:49] <ebonics> i had it working before but i guess i broke something
[00:51] <zerowaitstate> are we talking about SMTP or dovecot?
[00:51] <ebonics> dovecot
[00:51] <zerowaitstate> SMTP is Postfix, not dovecot
[00:51] <ebonics> so when i telnet to port 587 what protocol is that ?
[00:52] <zerowaitstate> ESMTP
[00:52] <ebonics> which is dovecot right?
[00:52] <zerowaitstate> which is being handled by Postfix, as shown in your dpaste
[00:52] <ebonics> oh..
[00:52] <ebonics> i thought that it just meant that dovecot was delegating to postfix
[00:53] <ebonics> shouldn't it be going through dovecat?
[00:53] <zerowaitstate> there is some interaction yes, because dovecot needs to know where postfix is storing messages for that domain
[00:53] <zerowaitstate> postfix handles SMTP, dovecot handles POP3/IMAP
[00:53] <zerowaitstate> I realize it's confusing
[00:54] <ebonics> like for a mail client i have it configured to port 587 and under imap
[00:54] <ebonics> and yet when i telnet to port 587 it's using ESMTP
[00:54] <ebonics> so i don't really understand
[00:54] <zerowaitstate> SMTP is what your mail client is using to SEND MAIL. IMAP is what your client is using to CHECK MAIL.
[00:54] <ebonics> oh wow my mail client is using port 143.. what the
[00:55] <zerowaitstate> they are two totally different protocols. for historical reasons, mostly, they are handled by two different software packages
[00:55] <ebonics> okay i understand now zerowaitstate thanks
[00:56] <ebonics> so really postfix is my problem zerowaitstate?
[00:56] <zerowaitstate> are you having problems sending mail, or checking mail?
[00:57] <ebonics> i'm hitting spambox in my tests when i send mail. so i tried telnetting and realised it wasnt sending the AUTH LOGIN packet so i assume that has to do with it
[00:57] <zerowaitstate> hitting spambox...i don't follow
[00:57] <ebonics> my mail is being sent to spam
[00:58] <ebonics> because of some auth or validation related reason
[00:58] <ebonics> ie. it wasn't hitting spam earlier and it was using AUTH LOGIN
[00:58] <zerowaitstate> mail you are sending is being sent to the spam folder when someone else receives it?
[00:58] <ebonics> when i receive it
[00:58] <ebonics> yes
[00:58] <ebonics> my server -> my gmail account
[00:58] <zerowaitstate> ah, so you are testing by sending to yourself?
[00:58] <ebonics> gmail spamboxes it
[00:59] <ebonics> yes
[00:59] <zerowaitstate> okay. unfortunately, the answer is "it's complicated"
[00:59] <zerowaitstate> ebonics: your smtp server is functioning, however, Google does not fully trust it
[00:59] <zerowaitstate> ebonics: there are a number of reasons that can happen.
[01:00] <zerowaitstate> ebonics: lack of DKIM / SPF records for the domain can be one reason
[01:00] <zerowaitstate> ebonics: the lack of SSL support server-to-server can be another
[01:01] <ebonics> zerowaitstate, shouldn't it be using SSL
[01:01] <ebonics> i implemented a cert
[01:01] <zerowaitstate> ebonics: also, if you are sending from an IP block that is a previous known abuser, it may be blacklisted
[01:02] <ebonics> and zerowaitstate thanks for the info, however i wasn't hitting spambox earlier and i noticed in my telnet adventures that it was sending AUTH LOGIN, while now it's not
[01:02] <ebonics> so i feel like that's likely the problem at hand at this moment
[01:03] <ebonics> zerowaitstate, are you saying the AUTH LOGIN is handled by postfix?
[01:03] <zerowaitstate> ebonics: AUTH LOGIN is what the client sends, not the server
[01:03] <ebonics> zerowaitstate, how :| i swear it was sending AUTH LOGIN earlier..
[01:04] <zerowaitstate> ebonics: and yes, SMTP is handled by postfix, so the config you're interesting in is there
[01:04] <zerowaitstate> ebonics: ah, yeah, you definitely have a postfix problem
[01:04] <zerowaitstate> ebonics: it looks like you are operating an open SMTP without authentication
[01:04] <ebonics> lol
[01:04] <ebonics> :|
[01:07] <zerowaitstate> ebonics: however there is a little caveat. It may be that postfix is set up to support pop-before-smtp which allows you to use smtp from an ip address without authentication if you used pop/imap from that same address recently
[01:08] <ebonics> zerowaitstate, i haven't enabled pop3 as far as i know
[01:08] <ebonics> zerowaitstate, shall i post my postfix conf?
[01:08] <zerowaitstate> yeah, but the same is true for imap I believe
[01:09] <ebonics> zerowaitstate, https://dpaste.de/yObJ
[01:09] <zerowaitstate> I actually have to go in a sec. However, I would recommend you check smtp from a different IP address that has not checked mail via POP/IMAP to that server recently.
[01:09] <ebonics> zerowaitstate, okay, thanks for the help.
[01:10] <zerowaitstate> ebonics: based on my prior experience with dovecot, my guess is you checked mail from your computer, then ran your smtp test and it didn't attempt to authenticate you due to dovecot telling postfix via SASL that you were already legit.
[01:11] <zerowaitstate> ebonics: the reason imap-before-smtp is used is so people putting in their email stuff on their phones, etc, don't have to enter a username/password twice for both imap and smtp
[01:11] <ebonics> zerowaitstate, that's possible. i'm using thunderbird so it will be using my ip
[01:12] <zerowaitstate> ebonics: i think it's poor security personally
[01:12] <zerowaitstate> ebonics: but it's a very popular default configuration
[01:12] <ebonics> zerowaitstate, it seems good for large scale systems for performance
[01:12] <zerowaitstate> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POP_before_SMTP
[01:13] <zerowaitstate> http://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/PopBSMTPAndDovecot
[01:13] <ebonics> zerowaitstate, do you know how i can flush the session or whatever it is so i can do proper testing
[01:13] <zerowaitstate> no idea, but it's probably in the dovecot docs
[01:13] <zerowaitstate> since dovecot is handling the user database
[01:14] <zerowaitstate> ebonics: performance has nothing to do with it. there is very little performance hit in checking a password, especially compared to doing things like TLS
[01:15] <ebonics> zerowaitstate, there could be if the database isn't threadsafe
[01:15] <zerowaitstate> ebonics: also, NAT screws up POP before SMTP
[01:15] <zerowaitstate> ebonics: username/password databases are key value stores. it's very easy to make a key-value store threadsafe
[01:15] <zerowaitstate> ebonics: anyway, I got to eat. take it easy
[01:16] <ebonics> seeya zerowaitstate thanks for the help
[01:37] <andre_pl> patdk-lap: as I suspected, mdadm says the 2TB is too small to replace the 3, so i'm going commando
[01:37] <cyclob|work> hi guys, trying to set up munin cgi using this guide: http://munin-monitoring.org/wiki/MuninConfigurationMasterCGI but all i get is 403 forbidden :S any help on what to do
[01:37] <patdk-lap> hmm
[01:37] <andre_pl> is it basically fail & remove /dev/sdX1, then add /dev/sdX
[01:38] <andre_pl> no format in between?
[01:38] <patdk-lap> you can
[01:39] <andre_pl> from your reply i gather there is a better way?
[01:39] <patdk-lap> not really
[01:39] <patdk-lap> have two options
[01:39] <patdk-lap> get a larger disk to rotate with
[01:39] <patdk-lap> or make your raid array with your 2tb, and copy it all over
[01:39] <patdk-lap> and copy it all back
[01:40] <patdk-lap> would be the only 100% safe way
[01:40] <andre_pl> i'll take my chances with the swaps
[01:40] <patdk-lap> doing a drop and add is ok
[01:40] <patdk-lap> but there can be risk during the time
[01:40] <andre_pl> by doing that as I said above, it will use the full disk instead of a partition, and I'll get the full 3tb each once it's all done?
[01:41] <patdk-lap> it will see the full 3tb
[01:41] <patdk-lap> but it won't use it till you tell it to grow
[01:41] <patdk-lap> and it won't grow till your done
[01:42] <andre_pl> ok I just saw something frightening
[01:43] <andre_pl> resync claims to be WAY faster than last time, and if I'm reading it right, mdadm says there's only 2tb of data instead of 5ish
[01:44] <andre_pl> Used Dev Size: is that per disk? or total occupied space?
[01:44] <patdk-lap> per disk I think
[01:44] <andre_pl> I guess I can mount it and see if anything is missing?
[01:44] <andre_pl> it seem wierd that a ton of data would just disappear like that
[01:44] <andre_pl> but i'm also worried about how the previous OS wouldn't reassemble the array
[01:45] <patdk-lap> ya, per disk
[01:45] <andre_pl> phew
[01:45] <patdk-lap> Array size is total
[01:46] <andre_pl> the resync is gonna take 350 mins.. last time it was 1200
[01:46] <andre_pl> i dont think these disks are that much faster
[01:46] <patdk-lap> newer faster disks
[01:47] <andre_pl> possible I guess...
[01:47] <andre_pl> scary.. I should have looked closer at the files to make sure they were all there
[05:20] <ruben23> hi guys
[05:20] <ruben23> i have an existing ubuntu server with apps - when i do apt-get update does it effect the other apps installed or update them also..?
[05:20] <ruben23> any idea guys
[05:21] <sarnold> ruben23: how did you install those other apps?
[05:21] <ruben23> i worry my server might get broken when i run - apt-get update
[05:21] <ruben23> they are install by package, some are by source
[05:22] <sarnold> when you built packages by source, did you install them into /opt/ or /usr/local or did you install them into /usr?
[05:22] <ruben23> /usr/local some are /usr/src
[05:23] <sarnold> okay, those should be left alone, packages should leave /usr/local alone, some packages od install into /usr/src but that's mostly kernel headers, I think...
[05:24] <sarnold> now, the packages, how did you install those packages? did you download .deb files and use dpkg -i on them? or did you add new repositories to your /etc/apt/sources* files?
[08:55] <arcsky> i did chmod -R 700 /home/user and now all files are green
[08:55] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:08] <jrwren> arcsky: dont' do that. :)
[09:08] <ebonics> anyone know if its common for GNU mailman with default settings to be hitting gmail spambox on postfix (DKIM + SPF enabled) setup? i don't hit spambox when just sending through postfix
[09:31] <arcsky> jrwren: how should i make it then? if i dont want other users to list my home dir?
[09:53] <jrwren> arcsky: without the -R
[09:54] <jrwren> arcsky: -R means recurse. It sets mode on all files and dirs in that dir recursiverly
[10:04] <arcsky> jrwren: danke
[10:06] <arcsky> jrwren: how can i switch back fist to default mode?
[10:12] <jrwren> arcsky: you cannot.
[11:06] <spyridonas> Hello guys i tried to setup postfix/dovecot with virtual emails but i recieve the following error "status=bounced (cannot update mailbox /home/admin//var/vmail for user admin unable to create lock file /home/username//var/vmail.lock: No such file or directory)"
[11:06] <spyridonas> The mailbox path is wrong but i can't find it to change it , where is it located?
[11:16] <spyridonas> Any ideas?
[11:34] <spyridonas> Hello guys i tried to setup postfix/dovecot with virtual emails but i recieve the following error "status=bounced (cannot update mailbox /home/admin//var/vmail for user admin unable to create lock file /home/username//var/vmail.lock: No such file or directory)"
[11:34] <spyridonas> The mailbox path is wrong but i can't find it to change it , where is it located?
[11:49] <strikov> spyridonas: http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#home_mailbox
[11:49] <strikov> 'Optional pathname of a mailbox file relative to a local(8) user's home directory.'
[11:50] <spyridonas> Oh , how i see the user home directory?
[12:00] <spyridonas> strikov : cat /etc/passwd says vmail:x:2000:2000:Virtual Mailboxes,,,:/var/vmail:/usr/sbin/nologin
[12:03] <spyridonas> strikov: can i modify it so its /var/vmail?
[12:05] <strikov> spyridonas: it depends on what you want to achieve; 'If set, mail_spool_directory specifies an absolute path where mail gets delivered. Alternatively, if set, home_mailbox specifies a mailbox relative to the user's home directory where mail gets delivered.'
[12:08] <strikov> spyridonas: you seems to have home_mailbox=/var/vmail which is probably wrong
[12:08] <spyridonas> strikov: thanks this seems to fix it but no i don't recieve the email at all, and no errors to be found
[12:08] <strikov> spyridonas: what did you do exactly?
[12:09] <spyridonas> strikov: the logs says everything is ok
[12:09] <spyridonas> strikov: i commented out the home_mailbox and set mail_spool_directory to be /var/vmail
[12:09] <strikov> spyridonas: i think you receive mail w/o any issues now but it gets placed to some unexpected folder
[12:09] <strikov> spyridonas: it should be placed into /var/vmail then
[12:10] <spyridonas> strikov: but i have virtual mailboxes that defined like that mail_location = maildir:/var/vmail/%d/%n/Maildir:INDEX=/var/vmail/%d/%n/Maildir/indexes
[12:11] <spyridonas> strikov: but that's inside dovecot
[12:12] <spyridonas> strikov: i also have "virtual_mailbox_base = /var/vmail"
[12:12] <spyridonas> strikov: on postfix
[12:12] <strikov> spyridonas: i'm not an expert but i assume that you have two options
[12:12] <strikov> spyridonas: you either store mail for user X inside /home/X/<something>
[12:13] <strikov> spyridonas: or you store all the mail inside /var/vmail/ and do sorting there
[12:13] <strikov> spyridonas: which way you want?
[12:13] <strikov> If you want 1st way (which is simpler) you do home_mailbox = Maildir/
[12:13] <spyridonas> strikov: the 1st because virtual emails are stored like so "/var/vmail/domain/user/"
[12:14] <strikov> and then (when you receive mail) mutt -f ~/Maildir
[12:14] <strikov> this dir should exist i think
[12:15] <spyridonas> strikov: that means i have to delete everything postfixadmin created and redo the whole virtual mail boxes setup....
[12:15] <strikov> spyridonas: you want 2nd way then (I think) not 1st
[12:16] <spyridonas> strikov: the problem is that the directories are variables
[12:17] <spyridonas> strikov: i don't want all emails to /var/vmail , i want the email from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to be on /var/example/admin/ and the email from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to be on /var/example2/admin.
[12:18] <strikov> spyridonas: try to comment out both mail_spool_directory and home_mailbox
[12:19] <strikov> spyridonas: it seems to me that you have a working config but this home_mailbox thing simply broke everything
[12:20] <spyridonas> strikov: hmm... still nothing
[12:21] <strikov> spyridonas: define 'nothing'
[12:21] <spyridonas> strikov: i wonder why virtual_mailbox_base doesn't simple override everything
[12:21] <strikov> spyridonas: check /var/vmail/*
[12:21] <strikov> spyridonas: i assume that you should get mail to /var/vmail/%d/%n/Maildir as you defined in the config
[12:21] <spyridonas> strikov: /var/vmail has nothing delivered to it and the domain folders i cant understard if something was just added
[12:22] <spyridonas> strikov: the Maildir has .Archive, .Drafts etc...
[12:22] <spyridonas> strikov: but nothing delivered to it
[12:23] <strikov> spyridonas: Maildir is used only when home_mailbox is set
[12:23] <strikov> spyridonas: you either use it or not
[12:23] <strikov> spyridonas: we came to conclusion that you don't want to have it
[12:24] <spyridonas> strikov: ok i dont want it then
[12:24] <spyridonas> strikov: sure
[12:24] <strikov> spyridonas: so, you don't have home_mailbox in the config?
[12:24] <strikov> spyridonas: you don't forget to restart the thing, right?
[12:25] <spyridonas> strikov: i do have it commented out because its relative the user
[12:25] <spyridonas> strikov: home_mailbox
[12:27] <spyridonas> strikov: relative to user means /home/vmail but i have it on /var/vmail. Should i just delete the Maildir part of "mail_location = maildir:/var/vmail/%d/%n/Maildir:INDEX=/var/vmail/%d/%n/Maildir/indexes"
[12:27] <spyridonas> strikov: but then indexes doesn't exist...
[12:29] <spyridonas> strikov: should i simply copy the folder to /home/vmail instead ?
[12:30] <strikov> spyridonas: /var/vmail/%d/%n/Maildir means that mail will be stored at /var/vmail/<domain>/<user>/Maildir
[12:30] <strikov> spyridonas: you either want this or not
[12:30] <strikov><EMAIL_ADDRESS>will be store at /var/vmail/example.com/info/Maildir
[12:31] <spyridonas> strikov: i don't mind if i copy it to the parrent folder, the problem is the parrent folder doesn't have indexes folder which its used latter
[12:31] <strikov> spyridonas: i don't understand you problem
[12:31] <spyridonas> strikov: "mail_location = maildir:/var/vmail/%d/%n/Maildir:INDEX=/var/vmail/%d/%n/Maildir/indexes"
[12:31] <spyridonas> strikov: says on dovecot
[12:32] <spyridonas> strikov: i can simple made it "mail_location = maildir:/var/vmail/%d/%n"
[12:32] <spyridonas> strikov: but i wont have the indexes part
[12:32] <strikov> spyridonas: for what reason?
[12:32] <spyridonas> strikov: because i dont want to user Maildir
[12:33] <strikov> spyridonas: you want to 'convert' existing mail database into a new hierarchy of folders?
[12:33] <spyridonas> strikov: no i don't care the existing mail database is empty
[12:34] <strikov> spyridonas: i don't know if Maildir name is required or not by some other components
[12:34] <strikov> spyridonas: i'd stick with a regular way and don't invent the wheel
[12:34] <spyridonas> strikov: i will delete i then
[12:35] <spyridonas> strikov: if that doesn't work i will re-do it
[12:39] <spyridonas> strikov: it doesn't work.. i will re-do it again, thanks for helping me out
[12:39] <strikov> spyridonas: yw
[13:42] <spyridonas> Hello guys is there any way to track a directory when new files are created?
[13:46] <dasjoe> inotify?
[13:47] <purplehorace> Hi looking for some help on a strange problem with ubuntu server and apache2
[13:48] <purplehorace> I have the system set up and there is an index.html being served in /var/www/
[13:48] <Sling> spyridonas: yeah, inotify could be used for this, you can let it 'monitor' a specific location
[13:48] <Sling> use the google power to find out how exactly
[13:49] <purplehorace> I have tried to remove the index.html to try and use an index.php but no matter what I do it always returns the content of the index.php even if I move it out of the way ???
[13:49] <Sling> purplehorace: most likely due to browser caching
[13:49] <spyridonas> Sling: Thanks, i can't recieve emails but i can't understand where the files end up.
[13:49] <Sling> purplehorace: or do you mean it returns the contents of index.html instead of index.php ?
[13:49] <teward> purplehorace: purge your browser cache and retry
[13:54] <purplehorace> The browser is rendering the index.html and the server isn't serving the index.php even though its there. I thought it should use the php if the html isn't there
[13:55] <dasjoe> purplehorace: check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ for enabled sites and their docroot
[13:56] <purplehorace> OK I'll have a check of settings, thanks
[13:59] <Sling> purplehorace: make sure DirectoryIndex lists index.php before index.html
[13:59] <Sling> but still, if index.html doesn't exist and your browser still 'gets' the index.html contents, its definitely caching
[14:07] <Error404NotFound> How do I know which screen session i am connected to from within a screen session, assuming have multiple screen sessions running and I am connected to others too from same machine.
[14:15] <Sling> Error404NotFound: screen -list will show the PID's
[14:15] <Sling> so from within one of the screens do echo $PPID
[14:15] <Sling> and that should correspond to one of them
[14:15] <Error404NotFound> hmmm, let me try
[14:15] <Sling> assuming your shell is a child process of the screen process
[14:17] <Error404NotFound> Sling: awesome
[14:17] <Error404NotFound> thanks
[14:20] <spyridonas> Hey guys how can i change postfix default email save location?
[14:21] <Sling> spyridonas: postfix is usually not the daemon 'saving' email
[14:21] <Sling> its an MTA
[14:21] <spyridonas> if i change home_mailbox = it only appends whatever i type to /home/username/whatever/i/typed/
[14:22] <Sling> ah
[14:22] <Sling> spyridonas: the most flexible would be letting postfix deliver it to procmail
[14:22] <Sling> and then each user can have its own procmail rules
[14:23] <spyridonas> Sling: i have already setup dovecot/postfix, currently it doesn't work because emails end up on wrong directories
[14:23] <spyridonas> Sling: i have them setup with virtual domains and emails
[14:24] <Sling> spyridonas: so what does your main.cf look like?
[14:24] <Sling> you would normally have something like "virtual_transport = lmtp:unix:private/dovecot-lmtp" for a postfix+dovecot stack
[14:25] <Sling> and then have lmpt listed in the 'protocols' section in dovecot.conf
[14:25] <spyridonas> Sling: like this http://pastebin.com/mFjyh5uG
[14:27] <spyridonas> Sling: i dont have what you said
[14:27] <Sling> I see that
[14:28] <Sling> is this a new setup you're building or/
[14:28] <spyridonas> Sling: it's new i dont care if i loose emails, i followed this guide http://serion.co.nz/howto/howto-setup-mailserver-using-postfix-mysql-dovecot-postfixadmin-amavis-new
[14:28] <spyridonas> Sling: i need postfixadmin
[14:28] <Sling> why?
[14:30] <spyridonas> Sling: map files are exactly the same with this guide
[14:30] <spyridonas> Sling: i need to have multiple hosts with accounts end up in the same server
[14:31] <Sling> what I use is mysql for storing the domains/maps/aliases
[14:31] <Sling> like, virtual_mailbox_domains = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-mailbox-domains.cf
[14:31] <Sling> which then contains something like http://paste2.org/I1BUI5O4
[14:32] <Sling> then you can use SQL to manage your postfix stuff, or phpmyadmin, etc
[14:32] <Sling> but maybe this is a topic for #postfix :)
[14:33] <spyridonas> Sling: well i only need to change the directory , everything else works
[14:33] <spyridonas> Sling: i can send emails , all emails have ssl, dmarc,dkim, and a bunch of stuff
[14:33] <Sling> dovecot should be storing your incoming mails
[14:33] <Sling> not postfix
[14:34] <spyridonas> Sling: i can't recieve them because that config doens't work... :S
[14:34] <Sling> ..
[16:25] <tash> anyone know if you can configure unattended upgrades to notify only, but not actually upgrade?
[16:26] <tash> i can't seem to find it in docs
[16:29] <rbasak> tash: maybe --dry-run?
[16:30] <rbasak> tash: you might have to modify /etc/cron.daily/apt though
[16:30] <rbasak> tash: also note that you can run /usr/lib/update-manager/apt-check from a script
[16:31] <rbasak> (I'm not sure that's "official" API though)
[16:48] <ebonics> is it normal for mailman to be getting spam filtered by gmail with default settings (im using postfix with DKIM and SFP setup)? note: i dont get the same results with just postfix alone.
[19:17] <lhorace> Hello
[19:17] <lhorace> I have a KVM with 238MB.... Webmin fits nicely but when it runs apt-show-versions... OOM get's excuted
[19:18] <lhorace> I am just curious, apt-show-versions needs a lot memory to run? I assume it loading stuff into MEM?
[19:21] <ebonics> lhorace, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-add-swap-on-ubuntu-14-04
[19:22] <lhorace> ebonics: I know how... The KVM came with template but since you mention that
[19:22] <lhorace> I am going to see if I can add swap
[19:29] <lordievader> lhorace: Is apache running on the same box?
[19:30] <lhorace> Nope, just mail box
[19:30] <lhorace> just Postfix, webmin
[19:31] <lhorace> sshd
[19:31] <lhorace> There extra process that I am not using and I am going to kill
[19:32] <lhorace> dbus,init, and kernel pids
[19:33] <lhorace> I don't recall how to resize EXT4 so I am looking up that information
[19:33] <lordievader> resize2fs
[19:33] <lordievader> Anyhow 238Mb is really tiny...
[19:33] <lhorace> The assigned size is... 9.9GB total with 1.1Gb in use
[19:34] <lordievader> Assigned size of what?
[19:34] <lhorace> For the plan that I have
[19:34] <lordievader> What?
[19:34] <lhorace> It's 238MB with 9,9GB
[19:34] <lhorace> I am renting a KVM from a hoster and they assigned me 238MB with 9.9GB
[19:35] <bekks> Can you pastebin "free -m" please?
[19:36] <lhorace> I am also renting another KVM, which is 512MB, a bit bigger but I am using for something else
[19:37] <lhorace> They are Cloud Service
[19:37] <lhorace> http://pastie.org/10098764
[19:37] <lhorace> Both have Ubuntu 14.04
[19:38] <bekks> !webmin
[19:38] <lhorace> bekks: I don't have issues with Webmin on Ubuntu
[19:38] <bekks> For a small mailserver, the 154M free would be ok. For nothing else.
[19:39] <bekks> Well, it isnt supported anymore on Ubuntu.
[19:39] <lhorace> Okay, thanks
[19:39] <lhorace> Umm, where you get 154M?
[19:39] <lhorace> You adding the cache and free?
[19:39] <lhorace> BTW, This box relays mail to another box
[19:39] <bekks> Yes. Because thats the RAM available to applications.
[19:40] <bekks> http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[19:40] <lhorace> That does the actual deveilvery
[19:40] <lhorace> bekks: Thanks, I read up Linux memory management actually
[19:41] <lhorace> If I sound dumb, not trying to be
[19:44] <lhorace> I think swap of size 300MB should be good enough
[19:48] <lhorace> I can't resize2fs, it's online
[19:50] <lhorace> "resize2fs: On-line shrinking not supported", I am going to have to ask the admins to do it for me
[19:55] <lordievader> What kind of filesystem is it?
[19:56] <lhorace> Ext4, I am going to look into a swap file
[19:58] <lordievader> Ah, shrinking... live extending is supported. Read that wrong...
[19:58] <lhorace> yeah
[19:59] <lhorace> I was going to make room for a swap partition since that's most recommended
[19:59] <lhorace> swapfile is the most easiest fixed and the admins are not in the mood
[20:06] <lhorace> bekks: lordievader http://pastie.org/10098824
[20:07] <bekks> And?
[20:07] <lhorace> Thanks for the suggestion, that really helped me a lot, wasn't sure how to solve the problem... I was thinking of disabling Webmin from running apt-show-version... When it runs, it jumps, then processes based on score start to be killed
[20:07] <lhorace> bekks: Just show you I resolve the problem
[20:07] <lhorace> bekks: Better?
[20:09] <bekks> So you added a swap file then?
[20:09] <lhorace> yup
[20:10] <bekks> Did you change swappiness too, as well as changing the default behaviour of the OOM killer?
[20:10] <lhorace> Uh, I was thinking about swappiness but as for OOM killer behavior.. I still have more to read
[20:11] <lhorace> I think, with 60, that should be good enough, I am not sure I really want to go for agressive swappiness
[20:11] <lhorace> KVM is on SSD
[20:11] <bekks> Well, you actually dontwant to swap at all, if it can be avoided. So set vm.swappiness=5 or 10 in /etc/sysctl.conf
[20:12] <lhorace> Hmmm, good point
[20:13] <lhorace> I will see
[20:13] <bekks> And set vm.oom_kill_allocating_task=1 too
[20:13] <lhorace> What does that do?
[20:14] <bekks> When you are running out of memory, the OOM killer starts to randomly kill processes until the situation is resolved. You actually never want that. You want the process which causes the situation to be killed.
[20:15] <lhorace> bekks: Okay, my observation, apt-show-versions get's killed
[20:15] <lhorace> Then, I have tmux
[20:15] <lhorace> So, I don't see ramdoniess, thus far
[20:16] <lhorace> webmin which is the parent, get's killed but the time span
[20:16] <lhorace> The parent of 'apt-show-versions'
[20:16] <bekks> So if tmux causes the OOM situation, and webmin gets killed, thats random death.
[20:16] <lhorace> lol
[20:17] <lhorace> Okay
[20:17] <lhorace> I so a lot of tmux inovked OOM
[20:17] <lhorace> s/so/saw/
[20:17] <lhorace> For now, my critical serices keep running
[20:18] <lhorace> services*
[20:19] <lhorace> bekks: Actually, the template, so swapiness to 0
[20:19] <lhorace> s/so/set/ I don't have great spelling skills
[20:20] <bekks> So if tmux is causing the OOM, set vm.oom_kill_allocating_task=1 to make sure tmux gets killed then.
[20:20] <lhorace> okay, set
[22:45] <Peiniger> I’m logged in to a server that is rejecting all new connections. In /var/log/auth.log I’m seeing the following message: Connection closed by myipaddress [preauth]
[22:46] <Peiniger> I’ve restarted ssh and verified authorized_keys hasnt been changed.
[22:51] <lhorace> Peiniger: not enough information
[22:51] <lhorace> SSHD might be closing the connection just becaust
[22:51] <Peiniger> What other info would you like?
[22:52] <lhorace> You can put SSHD in DEBUG mode
[22:53] <Peiniger> Can I put it in debug mode without losing my current connection?
[22:54] <lhorace> Peiniger: openSSH spawns SSH clients
[22:54] <lhorace> so, you can restart SSHD witout affecting your current session
[22:54] <pmatulis> Peiniger: pastebin what you get with the client in verbose mode (ssh -v). could be a number of things. like permissions of .ssh directory or key files
[22:54] <Peiniger> no problem. 1 minute please
[22:55] <pmatulis> more v's are possible but one is usually good (ssh -vvv)
[22:56] <Peiniger> http://pastebin.com/YXbp1ZGC
[22:57] <pmatulis> Peiniger: so could be a few things. but i would first check auth.log on the server. pastebin the last few lines
[22:57] <lhorace> Umm pmatulis you explain or can I?
[22:57] <lhorace> Uhhh
[22:57] <pmatulis> lhorace: go ahead
[22:57] <lhorace> Well, the authentication mentods is publickey
[22:58] <lhorace> That's why it faied
[22:58] <lhorace> oops, failed*
[22:58] <lhorace> There is not other method to try
[22:59] <pmatulis> lhorace: ?
[22:59] <lhorace> Well, with my SSHD, I might keep it to just publickey
[23:00] <lhorace> But if you lose it, you need to find another way
[23:00] <pmatulis> Peiniger: anyway, provide auth.log. otherwise, this error can occur if you're connecting to the wrong user account or the public key is not installed in the remote ubuntu user's home directory
[23:00] <Peiniger> pmatulis: the only sshd error im getting in /var/log/auth.log is Connection closed by myipaddress [preauth]
[23:01] <lhorace> What SSHD tells me now is enough to know what is the problem
[23:01] <lhorace> Some of you need to read the openSSH docs
[23:01] <lhorace> It's clear as day in the pastebin
[23:02] <lhorace> debug1: identity file /Users/someuser/Documents/someorg/ssh-keys/someorg-east.pem type -1 ?
[23:03] <lhorace> that might be the problem
[23:04] <Peiniger> lhorace: can you elaborate?
[23:04] <sarnold> lhorace: but the command line asked for -i ~/Documents/someorg/ssh-keys/someorg-server1.pem and it appears it was tried.. debug1: Trying private key: /Users/someuser/Documents/someorg/ssh-keys/someorg-server1.pem
[23:05] <lhorace> I keep my private key safe
[23:07] <lhorace> On, I have Arch Linux, Ubuntu, etc severs... I usally disable the password or any other mechnasim of auth on SSH
[23:07] <sarnold> Peiniger: are you confident the public portion of /Users/someuser/Documents/someorg/ssh-keys/someorg-server1.pem is in the authorized_keys of the user account on the remote server you're tryingt ouse?
[23:07] <Peiniger> I will double check
[23:07] <lhorace> Except for publickey
[23:09] <lhorace> sarnold: All the AUTH methods failed
[23:09] <Peiniger> the output of my .pem file is a private key.
[23:09] <Peiniger> what do you mean the public section?
[23:10] <lhorace> I didn't know that you keep private keys in PEM format
[23:10] <sarnold> Peiniger: most ssh clients store the privkey ina file named e.g. id_rsa and the public portion in afile named id_rsa.pub
[23:10] <lhorace> Must be a new SSH feature
[23:10] <sarnold> lhorace: I think the .pem format was a feature of the ancient commercial ssh
[23:10] <bekks> The .pem file contains a SSL certificate, which is not a SSH key.
[23:11] <bekks> Isnt it?
[23:11] <Peiniger> “The private key file is automatically downloaded by your browser. The base file name is the name you specified as the name of your key pair, and the file name extension is .pem. Save the private key file in a safe place.”
[23:11] <sarnold> Peiniger: _browser_?
[23:11] <Peiniger> from the amazon docs
[23:11] <lhorace> As long of SSH that I have, I never seen SSH encode it in PEM format
[23:11] <sarnold> lhorace: be thankful :)
[23:12] <Peiniger> sarnold: i would ignore the browser piece
[23:12] <Peiniger> must download instructions
[23:12] <sarnold> lhorace: the old commercial ssh was verybadterrible
[23:12] <lhorace> I want to help Peiniger
[23:12] <Peiniger> Its for Amazon EC2 key pairs
[23:12] <lhorace> make sure he solved his issue
[23:12] <sarnold> lhorace: .. but this sounds like some funky amazonery rather than the old commercial ssh
[23:13] <lhorace> sarnold: Don't care about the backround
[23:13] <Peiniger> http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/ec2-key-pairs.html
[23:13] <pmatulis> Peiniger: i can connect to Amazon instances with such a .pem key
[23:13] <pmatulis> Peiniger: the problem is probably you didn't choose the proper key when you created your instance
[23:13] <lhorace> It might end with .pem
[23:14] <Peiniger> pmatulis: the instance has been around for a while now
[23:14] <lhorace> the contents is different
[23:14] <Peiniger> ssh suddenly stopped working
[23:14] <Peiniger> i just happened to be logged in to it
[23:14] <pmatulis> interesting, "suddenly stopped working"
[23:15] <pmatulis> Peiniger: you have console access right?
[23:15] <lhorace> SSH will spawn a process
[23:15] <Peiniger> yes…i should have said stopped receiving new connections
[23:15] <lhorace> It stop working doesn't mean the deamon stopped
[23:16] <lhorace> I said, before, but SSHD in debug mode
[23:16] <Peiniger> lhorace: can i put it in debug mode without disconnecting my current session?
[23:17] <lhorace> Peiniger: It could be your SHELL that disconnect you
[23:17] <Peiniger> others are experiencing this problem too
[23:17] <lhorace> Peiniger: If you currently logged and ROOT authority .. yes
[23:18] <lhorace> SSHD spawns new process for clients under their priviledge
[23:19] <lhorace> Peiniger: When you say others, I need to know what Ubuntu Version?
[23:20] <Peiniger> lhorace: server is 14.04.1
[23:21] <lhorace> Okay, I have 4 14.04.1
[23:21] <lhorace> and Arch Linux.. etc
[23:22] <lhorace> You asked me a few times if making changes will destro your current session
[23:23] <lhorace> SSHD spawns Processes
[23:24] <lhorace> It means depends on how the program is program that one process shouldn't effect another
[23:26] <Peiniger> im with you. thanks for the explination
[23:29] <lhorace> I wanted to make sure everthing was goign alright with you Peiniger
[23:32] <lhorace> I just finish reading up on SSH and PEM
[23:32] <Peiniger> I need to get a port opened to run in debug mode
[23:32] <lhorace> That debug1: identity file /Users/someuser/Documents/someorg/ssh-keys/someorg-east.pem type -1
[23:32] <lhorace> that was your problem
[23:33] <lhorace> I took at my key, it's in PEM format
[23:33] <lhorace> It's not*
[23:34] <Peiniger> what is the problem?
[23:35] <lhorace> PEM and SSH key are both base64 but when you decode it.. it means something else
[23:36] <sarnold> I really don't think that's it; the command line asked for a specific (different) key, and that other key was tested later
[23:37] <sarnold> here's a successful login to my isp with half-dozen of those "type -1" lines: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10841461/
[23:37] <sarnold> I think you're better off putting that sshd into debug mode and hoping for more verbose messages that way
[23:38] <lhorace> RIGHT
[23:38] <Peiniger> Ill give that a shot once I can open another port
[23:38] <Peiniger> thanks for your help
[23:41] <sarnold> unforuntately I don't see much in the way of debugging messages when I search for "Connection reset by", they all show up on len==0 results from socket reads, e.g. http://sources.debian.net/src/openssh/1:6.7p1-3/packet.c/?hl=1137#L1137
[23:42] <sarnold> so debug mode may not help much, but it's worth trying
[23:50] <pmatulis> Peiniger: i asked before, did you confirm the public key is installed in the remote ubuntu user's home directory? even though it "suddenly stopped working", it is good to check
[23:51] <Peiniger> yes i did
[23:54] <sarnold> Peiniger: check ls -ld output for ~ ~/.ssh ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote server; if owners, groups, or permissions are the least bit wrong, sshd will refuse to use it; I'd expect it to log something about it on the server, but the client often has no visibility about why the public key didn't work
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[02:10] <imgbot> [04:15] <imgbot> [04:15] <imgbot> [09:34] <dbarth> Laney: ping? i'm requesting a silo to land the fix for MSN/FB xmpp services going away
[09:34] <dbarth> https://bugs.launchpad.net/account-plugins/+bug/1432613
[09:34] <Laney> dbarth: oh, wait, mardy pinged me and I forgot to reply
[09:34] <dbarth> Laney: but to land, this would need a priority bump to make it
[09:34] <Laney> sorry mardy!
[09:34] <dbarth> Laney: do you think that's still open ?
[09:35] <Laney> dbarth: I don't know, since we're in final freeze now
[09:35] <mardy> Laney: np :-) I'll keep the packages alive, since they appear in empathy's Recommends
[09:35] <Laney> mardy: we can just fix that
[09:36] <mardy> Laney: you mean, "we can just fix that" = "we can remove the broken plugins from the Recommends line"?
[09:37] <Laney> nod
[09:37] <Laney> you might want a Conflicts to get it removed too
[09:38] <mardy> Laney: and this change (about the Recommends) could go in despite the freeze?
[09:38] <Laney> mardy: It's not up to me, but I would be okay with uploading it to see
[09:39] <Laney> worst case it could become a SRU
[09:39] <dbarth> Laney: let us know; we have the fix there, and can update the merge prop. in the way you prefer to release
[09:40] <Laney> mardy: what about removing the packages & Recommends from empathy, and putting a Conflicts on libaccount-plugin-generic-oauth?
[09:42] <Laney> hmm, they have an |ed depends on u-s-s-o-a so you may want to add one there too
[09:43] <mardy> Laney: just to clarify: the removal of the package is only for the windows-live plugin; the facebook one can't be removed, because it has other uses
[09:43] <Laney> yes
[09:43] <Laney> s/packages/package/ sorry
[09:45] <mardy> Laney: OK for the conflicts
[09:46] <mardy> Laney: maybe we should split the silo, to separate the branches that are for touch from those from the desktop, so that we can land them independently
[09:46] <mardy> dbarth: ^
[09:47] <Laney> I think for vivid we'd want to consider it all together
[09:55] <mardy> Laney: ok
[09:56] <Laney> but all we can do it put it in the queue and see if it's judged okay for release at this point
[10:03] <rvr> Mirv: ping
[10:08] <Mirv> rvr: pong
[10:09] <rvr> Mirv: I have tested the browser tabs, youtube, soundcloud, google maps, anything else worth checking?
[10:09] <Mirv> rvr: not that I can think of. it's a quite low-level change that prevents using (on arale chipset only) an OpenGL feature that arale doesn't really support at the moment
[10:10] <rvr> Mirv: Hmm... I'll check a webapp game.
[10:12] <rvr> Seems WebGL is disabled
[10:30] <Mirv> rvr: hmm, maybe a generic vivid thing? I've a vague memory of some bug.
[10:30] <rvr> Mirv: I'll check now in krillin, but I too guess it's a generic thing
[10:32] <Mirv> rvr: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oxide-qt/+bug/1438902
[10:32] <rvr> Mirv: Interesting, thanks
[11:39] <rvr> Mirv: Bad news
[11:39] <rvr> Mirv: krillin is doing weird things with the silo packages
[11:42] <Mirv> rvr: hmm? the if clause is done so that there should be no code change if the gfx chipset isn't Arale's PowerVR G6200
[11:46] <bzoltan_> Mirv: is there a free silo for the UITK?
[11:47] <Mirv> bzoltan_: sure there is since you already have it
[11:53] <rvr> Mirv: http://people.canonical.com/~vrruiz/tab-gl-krillin.mp4
[11:53] <Mirv> rvr: add read rights
[11:54] <rvr> Mirv: Done
[11:55] <popey> alesage: could you please file bugs for your calendar issues? (without logs we can't identify what's going on)
[11:56] <Mirv> rvr: the flickering? wow. I don't see anything like that on mako. have you tried purging the PPA ie with/without comparison?
[11:56] <Mirv> kgunn: any reasonable explanation for rvr's video ^ on krillin with your patch?
[11:59] * Mirv hangouts + dentist
[12:18] <mardy> Laney: https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/empathy/lp1432613/+merge/256651
[12:18] <mardy> Laney: should I put that in our silo, or how do we proceed?
[12:18] <rvr> Mirv: I didn't see any flickering when I flashed the phone, before installing the silos
[12:19] <kgunn> Mirv: i would doubt that patch would effect the greeter/keyboard....
[12:19] <kgunn> and yeah it should only effect arale
[12:19] <kgunn> ....actually that bug looks just like one that alf is working on
[12:20] <kgunn> we just found it 2 days ago on krillin
[12:20] <kgunn> rvr: is that the packages from silo 2 ?
[12:20] <rvr> kgunn: Yes
[12:20] <kgunn> rvr: do you know what other changes Mirv has in those ?
[12:21] <rvr> kgunn: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-002/+packages
[12:21] <rvr> "Sync with qtbase-opensource-src - 5.4.1+dfsg-1ubuntu5"
[12:22] <kgunn> rvr: did that problem survive reboot ?
[12:23] <rvr> kgunn: After silo packages are installed, the phone is rebooted
[12:23] <Mirv> rvr: -gles is not in use on the device. in the main package, the only change is this patch.
[12:23] <rvr> Rebooting again
[12:24] <kgunn> rvr: Mirv yeah...that is the same exact bug that alf's working
[12:24] <kgunn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1444047
[12:25] <rvr> kgunn: Interesting. On second reboot, problem is gone
[12:25] <kgunn> right...it's sporadic
[12:27] <Mirv> the patch in 002 is visible at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qtbase-opensource-src/revision/241 - ie same code path if gpu != PowerVR Rogue G6200
[12:30] <kgunn> yeah, it's not related to the patch
[12:30] <rvr> Ack
[12:34] <dbarth> rvr, Mirv: webgl is supported only on krillin right now; it will be re-enabled in the next release of oxide (1.7) for mako and other devices as well
[12:34] <rvr> dbarth: Ack
[12:39] <rvr> dbarth: But in https://get.webgl.org/ I don't see any spinning cube, as it says it should
[12:42] <dbarth> rvr: on krillin ?
[13:09] <rvr> dbarth: Yes, in RTM and in Vivid
[13:10] <Laney> mardy: you need to provide a changelog and then dput it to the silo
[13:10] <Laney> I can do that if you can't
[13:24] <mardy> Laney: yes, please do :-) I updated the changelog
[13:25] <Laney> okay, which silo is it?
[13:35] <dbarth> Laney: 006
[13:35] <Laney> thx, give me 10 minutes or so
[14:03] <boiko> jibel: hi, just curious: why is ubuntu-rtm/landing-003 marked as blocked in the QA board?
[14:03] <jibel> boiko, I have no idea
[14:04] <jibel> rvr, ^ do you know?
[14:09] <jibel> boiko, maybe because it is marked 'dirty'
[14:09] <jibel> ah rtm
[14:09] <boiko> jibel: yep, rtm
[14:11] <jibel> boiko, it looks good to me, so I don't know
[14:12] <boiko> jibel: ok, thanks :/
[14:17] <rvr> jibel: Yes, RTM
[14:19] <rvr> boiko: Is an app update intended for the Store?
[14:19] <boiko> rvr: dialer-app is not on store, it is part of the images
[14:20] <rvr> boiko: Right, and we are not getting new RTM updates
[14:21] <rvr> OTA3 is likely the last one
[14:21] <boiko> rvr: oh, ok, didn't know
[14:21] <boiko> bfiller: ^
[14:23] <jibel> boiko,rvr we'll maybe have a hotfix
[14:26] <sil2100> rvr: hey!
[14:26] <sil2100> rvr: you testing silo 002?
[14:26] <rvr> sil2100: Yes
[14:26] <sil2100> rvr: we would need a voulenteer to do the first landing to the overlay PPA
[14:26] <sil2100> rvr: so this is our first candidate then
[14:26] <sil2100> ;)
[14:27] <rvr> sil2100: What do I have to do?
[14:28] <sil2100> rvr: just sign it off normally
[14:28] <sil2100> rvr: I'll reconfigure it to target the PPA, but everything else stays exactly the same
[14:28] <sil2100> (no rebuilds happening, just some config changes)
[14:32] <rvr> sil2100: Do I need to recheck the packages?
[14:32] <sil2100> rvr: no no, no rebuilds will happen, just silo config changes
[14:32] <sil2100> Please continue ;)
[14:32] <rvr> sil2100: Ack :)
[14:40] <Laney> dbarth, mardy: uploaded
[14:41] <mardy> Laney: thanks!
[14:42] <mardy> dbarth: can you please build silo #6?
[14:51] <mardy> Laney: should I drop https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/empathy/lp1432613/+merge/256651 then?
[14:54] <Laney> mardy: nein, I'll push it when the package is accepted
[14:54] <Laney> actually I can push to 375 now
[14:54] <Laney> done
[14:55] <dbarth> mardy: sure
[15:00] <robru> mandel: tvoss: no qa for silos 9 and 30?
[15:00] <tvoss> mandel, there should be for 30 at least
[15:00] <mandel> same for 9
[15:00] <tvoss> robru, there shouldbe for 30 at least, mybad
[15:00] <mandel> tvoss, I think we forgot to set it in the spreadsheet, is not longer by default, or so it looks
[15:01] <robru> mandel: tvoss: yeah it needs to be set, sorry, and thanks
[15:01] <mandel> tvoss, I took care of 30 already
[15:25] <rvr> Mirv: Finally could test in mako, seems good
[15:25] <rvr> sil2100: So, silo is ready from my part. Tell me when I can click to sign off.
[15:31] <sil2100> rvr: ok, thanks, one moment still - robru will handle it :)
[15:33] <pmcgowan> kgunn, Mirv whats the status on silo2, its back to ready to build
[15:33] <sil2100> pmcgowan: no worries, it's CI Train reconfig
[15:33] <sil2100> Don't worry, it's built and tested
[15:34] <sil2100> Will land soon
[15:34] <pmcgowan> ok ty
[15:51] <bzoltan_> sil2100: May i ask for a silo4 reconf?
[15:52] <sil2100> bzoltan_: ok, let me do it quickly, but I'm almost in transit now
[15:52] <bzoltan_> sil2100: have a good flight dude :) and a safe one
[15:53] <rvr> mandel: ping
[15:53] <mandel> rvr, hello
[15:53] <rvr> mandel: Hey
[15:55] <sil2100> bzoltan_: thanks and done :)
[15:58] <dbarth> Laney: silo 6 is ready; any news on landing clearance ?
[15:59] <Laney> ready as in you've tested it?
[16:02] <robru> rvr: hey. I have a branch ready that fixes a bug in the train. I'll push it to production shortly. then we can get this show on the road
[16:02] <Laney> dbarth: Check with infinity if you can upload it or if we should SRU after release
[16:03] <rvr> robru: Ack
[16:09] <robru> rvr: alright, can you throw your qa ack on silo 2? thanks!
[16:09] <rvr> robru: Let's go!
[16:10] <alesage> popey bugs in process, stepping over a crash en route to
[16:10] <popey> alesage: thanks!
[16:12] <dbarth> Laney: ok
[16:13] <dbarth> infinity: this is about landing a silo fixing https://bugs.launchpad.net/account-plugins/+bug/1432613
[16:13] * Laney releases that bug title is overly alarming
[16:13] <dbarth> infinity: i think that's an sru, but wave if you want us to land that for the release
[16:13] <Laney> realises*
[16:13] <dbarth> yeah, that's FB & MSN *messaging* services shutting down
[16:26] <bzoltan_> does anybody know if the phablet-click-test-setup suppose to work these days?
[16:29] <infinity> dbarth: If it's auditable and testable, I don't mind getting it in before release.
[16:35] <bzoltan_> brendand: do you know why the phablet-click-test-setup with ubuntu/15.04 ?
[16:38] <brendand> bzoltan_, question seems incomplete. is it failing?
[16:38] <bzoltan_> brendand: yes it does .. in a spectacular way ... each time on different app
[16:39] <bzoltan_> brendand: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10839553/
[16:40] <brendand> bzoltan_, hmmm. unfortunately i can't look at it now. remind us on monday and someone will have a look
[16:40] <bzoltan_> brendand: Monday??? Uhh.. is anybody around who could help? I wish to test the UITK release candidate during the weekend
[16:41] <bzoltan_> brendand: you know :) it is a full day process ... 18 hours at least ... given that these super quality tools work
[16:42] <bzoltan_> brendand: and the gates close next week for RTM
[16:44] <brendand> bzoltan_, not many. elopio is finishing the sprint in austin
[16:44] <bzoltan_> brendand: shame ... but such as life
[16:45] <brendand> bzoltan_, i'll come back in a little while and either help fix it or find someone who can
[16:45] <brendand> bzoltan_, let me assume you try this on a freshly installed vivid image?
[16:45] <bzoltan_> brendand: Thank you
[16:45] <bzoltan_> brendand: Yes
[16:47] <bzoltan_> brendand: I constantly do wonder how it is possible that these very important tools ar so unstable
[16:54] <bzoltan_> brendand: it seems that most of the times it is the calculator app what makes the p-c-t fail... so I simple unregister that app... screw it :)
[17:07] <charles> trainguards, i need to make a change to ubuntu/landing-027, to change which indicator-location branch is included in the silo
[17:09] <charles> trainguards, this is on line 43 of the spreadsheet, basically I want to swap the current MP with a replacement
[17:10] <robru> charles: yep, you should have the power to do that yourself & reconfigure
[17:11] <charles> robru, cool, how do I do that wrt changing the MP?
[17:12] <robru> charles: just literally edit the spreadsheet cell to remove the MP you don't want then add the one you do want. once the spreadsheet looks right, find "Landing tools > Reconfigure" menu and follow the prompts.
[17:12] <charles> robru, thanks
[17:21] <robru> charles: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?q=charles just confirm you got the right URL in your silo there, otherwise looks good, ready to build
[17:22] <robru> brb, lunch
[17:24] <brendand> bzoltan_, they are not well tested
[17:25] <bzoltan_> brendand: That one I figured out myself :) too
[17:25] <bzoltan_> brendand: at least now that I have unregistered the terminal and the calculator app the tool works
[17:26] <brendand> bzoltan_, ok
[17:26] <brendand> bzoltan_, can you paste the version you're using?
[17:28] <bzoltan_> brendand: the stock one from vivid
[17:28] <charles> renatu, what's the status of the eds branch in our shared silo 8? are you ready to land?
[17:28] <brendand> bzoltan_, mine is 1.1+15.04.20150330-0ubuntu1
[17:29] <bzoltan_> brendand: same here
[17:29] <renatu> charles, yes
[17:29] <bzoltan_> 1.1+15.04.20150330-0ubuntu1
[17:30] <brendand> bzoltan_, interesting, the error i get now is about uitk ;p
[17:31] <brendand> package ubuntu-ui-toolkit, version 1.2.1458+15.04.20150327bzr1485pkg0vivid407-0ubuntu1 not found in https://api.launchpad.net/devel/ubuntu/vivid
[17:31] <bzoltan_> brendand: :D nice try
[17:31] <bzoltan_> brendand: for me the failing point was changing ... but calculator was the most typical
[17:32] <brendand> oh i know - i installed uitk from staging on this...
[17:32] * brendand reflashes
[17:53] <brendand> bzoltan_, btw you might think about starting to convert to using adt-run for click tests rather than phablet-click-test
[17:53] <brendand> bzoltan_, *that's* well tested
[17:54] <brendand> bzoltan_, as simple as e.g. adt-run --click com.ubuntu.calculator --- ssh -s adb
[18:10] <brendand> bzoltan_, i see what happened
[18:11] <brendand> bzoltan_, calculator changed their layout and violated the expected layout of tests
[18:19] <brendand> bzoltan_, i would really switch to using adt-run, if you have any concerns or need help doing it then let me know
[18:19] <bzoltan_> brendand: I suspected that... after sil2100 talked about that expectd layout
[18:20] <imgbot> [18:20] <bzoltan_> brendand: I will evaluate adt-run, but to be hyper honest, I trust nothing else but my very own tool, what made possible dozens of regression free landings :)
[18:21] <bzoltan_> brendand: all the non tested, non reliable, "works for me" tools wasted lots of my time. Since I use my own test plan executor I am more relaxed :)
[18:22] <brendand> bzoltan_, well adt-run is very much tested, so don't need to worry about that
[18:22] <bzoltan_> brendand: I will check next week, but I do not risk this landing with anything. Thursday is the deadline to push out several critical fixes.
[18:22] <brendand> bzoltan_, and in fact phablet-test-run is semi-deprecated so unless you're using your own tool also to deploy/execute the tests (which would be crazy) then you should
[18:23] <bzoltan_> brendand: :D I never considered the phablet-test-run as non deprecated .. it was born to be deprecated :)
[18:24] <bzoltan_> brendand: I will check this tool next week. I am happy to hear that finally we have something more stable and reliable
[18:27] <bzoltan_> brendand: one question :) has anybody ever used (in documented way) these adt tool to run 8 (4 RTM and 4 Ubuntu) times all the available tests where eac tests are executed three times with reboots between them and flashing + setting up PPAs?
[18:29] <bzoltan_> brendand: for example the browser tests just made the krilling hang ... nice
[18:30] <brendand> bzoltan_, well no - you're the only person doing that
[18:30] <brendand> bzoltan_, and it's not magic, so you will probably still have some of the same problems you do now, but i wouldn't say it would be worse than with phablet-test-run
[18:54] <bzoltan_> brendand: I am not doing that massive tests for fun :) I do it because many of the tools in the chain are unpredictable and single run of one test do not provide valuable result. But to be fair, most of the problems are not caused or rooted to p-t-r ...
[18:57] <bzoltan_> brendand: the problem is the combination of many small problems what do not come out if you run simple tests... like you never experience that not sleeping fior 2 minutes could be a problem if you run 20-30 tests in a row... or that you better wait 10 minutes after flashing :) because once out of fifty runs you might see problems. That is why I trust my process... I have polished these details a lot... so I can leave my devices to run automatic tests
[18:57] <bzoltan_> for the night.
[19:32] <jhodapp> robru, can you please reconfigure silo 28?
[19:34] <jhodapp> or rsalveti^
[19:35] <imgbot> [19:35] <imgbot> [19:39] <robru> jhodapp: one sec
[19:40] <jhodapp> thanks
[19:42] <robru> jhodapp: did you click build? I think you hit it too soon
[19:43] <robru> yeah
[19:43] <jhodapp> robru, I did, I think rsalveti reconfigured it in time though
[19:43] <jhodapp> but maybe not
[19:43] <jhodapp> can you kill the build and restart it then, rebuild everything
[19:43] <robru> jhodapp: I don't think so, check the dashboard, does it have the right merges?
[19:44] <jhodapp> let's just start over just in case
[19:44] <robru> jhodapp: k, needs to be reconfigured again, the premature build effectively undid the reconfigure.
[19:44] <rsalveti> yeah, ricmm_ asked me to reconfigure in parallel
[19:44] <rsalveti> so ended up doing that
[19:45] <jhodapp> robru, ok thanks
[19:46] <robru> rsalveti: heh, you did the wrong reconfigure, the unpriveleged one, it didn't work
[19:47] <robru> jhodapp: ok, this should be working: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-028-1-build/68/console
[19:48] <jhodapp> thanks robru
[19:48] <robru> jhodapp: you're welcome!
[20:24] <kenvandine> alesage, about silo 24, so when you turned wifi on, it turned itself back off again?
[20:25] <kenvandine> alesage, meaning the wifi switch is in the off position?
[20:26] <alesage> kenvandine, yes that's what I observed
[20:26] <kenvandine> alesage, your steps in your test case confuse me
[20:27] <kenvandine> you select "forget" for your AP
[20:27] <alesage> kenvandine, right
[20:27] <kenvandine> then step 3 says "WiFi switches to 'off'"
[20:27] <kenvandine> so you turned off wifi there?
[20:27] <kenvandine> or you mean it disconnected
[20:27] <alesage> kenvandine, disconnected
[20:28] <kenvandine> ok, when do you turn wifi off there?
[20:28] <alesage> kenvandine, I'll prep the silo to reproduce
[20:28] <kenvandine> the only change in the wifi plugin would be related to the actual wifi on/off switch
[20:29] <alesage> kenvandine, right that was the surprise IMO
[20:29] <kenvandine> not forget/connect.. etc
[20:29] <kenvandine> so i would expect to test this, you wouldn't forget, you would turn it off
[20:29] * alesage needs a dashcam for this kind of thing
[20:29] <kenvandine> then switch it on again, it should connect
[20:30] <alesage> kenvandine, will attempt in trunk to begin, assuming I'm not going to see the weird 'forget' behavior
[20:30] <kenvandine> i would worry that the switch might have a race turning off/on
[20:30] <kenvandine> but i tested that a bunch of time
[20:31] <kenvandine> alesage, so to confirm, you moved the switch to "off" then moved it back to "on" then it changed itself to "off"?
[20:32] <alesage> kenvandine, switching WiFi to on, my home AP appeared, upon selecting it, the WiFi switch turned to 'off'
[20:32] <kenvandine> alesage, also confirm the switch stays the same between indicator-network and system-settings
[20:32] <kenvandine> ok, thanks for clarifying
[20:32] <kenvandine> wanted to make sure you weren't just talking about it not connecting
[20:32] <alesage> kenvandine, I'll be superverbose next round :)
[20:32] * kenvandine follows same steps again
[20:33] <kenvandine> not about verbosity :)
[20:33] <kenvandine> just making sure using the same terms :)
[20:33] <alesage> makes me wish for BDD/cucumber adoption
[20:36] <kenvandine> alesage, i just reproduced that same problem on vivid-proposed without the silo
[20:36] <kenvandine> so not a regression in this silo
[20:36] <kenvandine> wtf though!
[20:37] <alesage> kenvandine, I lol
[20:37] <alesage> so Friday afternoon
[20:37] <kenvandine> ok, can't reproduce on rtm
[20:38] <kenvandine> so that's good :)
[20:38] <kenvandine> for now
[20:38] <alesage> kenvandine, feels like a settings bug no?
[20:38] <kenvandine> i'm betting the indicator
[20:38] <kenvandine> that menu is coming from indicator-network
[20:40] <alesage> kenvandine, I'll file and affect both
[20:40] <kenvandine> thx
[20:40] <alesage> kenvandine, if you want to re-propose I'll review again
[20:40] <kenvandine> alesage, can you double check that it isn't a new regression too?
[20:40] <alesage> kenvandine, back to last image, e.g.?
[20:41] <kenvandine> if you don't mind :)
[20:41] <alesage> kenvandine, with sprinkles pls
[20:41] <kenvandine> pretty please :)
[20:41] <alesage> ha
[20:43] <kenvandine> Installed: 0.3+15.04.20150413-0ubuntu1
[20:43] <kenvandine> so i'm pretty sure my device isn't tainted
[20:43] <kenvandine> oh... that indicator-network port to qtdbus just landed the other day didn't it
[20:44] <kenvandine> i wonder if that broke something
[20:44] <alesage> good theory
[20:44] <alesage> although I thought that went to rtm too
[20:45] <kenvandine> oh it did
[20:45] <kenvandine> ok, rules that out :)
[20:45] <alesage> not certain, would need to verify
[20:45] <kenvandine> i verified
[20:48] <alesage> not seeing the same 'forget' behavior in trunk :/ , might need reinforcements here
[20:48] <kenvandine> oh really
[20:48] <kenvandine> maybe apt is lying about my version
[20:50] <alesage> wouldn't expect this to differ by device? /me is on krillin
[20:50] <kenvandine> ok, confirmed
[20:51] <kenvandine> i did a reinstall of the package from vivid and couldn't repro it
[20:51] * kenvandine hates when apt lies because i updated the image :)
[20:51] <kenvandine> alesage, sorry... i guess i need to reject the branch and have dednick fix it :)
[20:52] <kenvandine> weird though, because the menumodel stuff wasn't changed
[20:52] <kenvandine> just the on/off switch
[20:52] <kenvandine> alesage, thanks for being thorough!
[20:53] <alesage> I'll just reproduce with silo--I'm realizing now that it's weird that WiFi disappeared upon forgetting network, memory of this foggy though, will get a more precise description
[20:53] <alesage> kenvandine, ok
[21:04] <alesage> kenvandine, just doin' mah job :)
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[06:04] <Kilos> hi lin
[06:04] <Kilos> i forgot where you are
[06:43] <Kilos> hello africa
[07:56] <Kilos> lin can you join here too please and you Tribaal https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa/+members
[07:56] <Kilos> and all you other guys that havent joined yet
[07:58] <Kilos> stickyboy that includes you
[08:03] <stickyboy> Kilos: :D
[08:03] <Kilos> hehe
[08:03] <stickyboy> Kilos: How do you feel about typography?
[08:04] <Kilos> i know nothing about it so no feelings
[08:04] <Kilos> too much other stuff trying to find peeps missing in action
[08:15] <stickyboy> Kilos: Signing up. :)
[08:16] <Kilos> yay good man
[08:16] <stickyboy> Actually, not sure how to join.
[08:17] <Kilos> hmm...
[08:18] <Kilos> dont you see a join this team button
[08:18] <stickyboy> I mean, after logging into Launchpad, there's nothing saying "join".
[08:19] <Kilos> ai!
[08:27] <Kilos> hi d4rk-5c0rp
[08:28] <Kilos> inetpro stickyboy doesnt see how to join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa/+members
[08:30] <d4rk-5c0rp> hi Kilos
[08:30] <Kilos> d4rk-5c0rp when you guys joined https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa/+members
[08:31] <Kilos> wasnt there a join this team button
[08:31] <Kilos> stickyboy cant find it
[08:32] <pieter2627> Kilos: try the link https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa
[08:32] <pieter2627> without the `+members` part
[08:32] <d4rk-5c0rp> +1 pieter2627
[08:33] <d4rk-5c0rp> the join button should be there
[08:33] <Kilos> aha ty pieter2627
[08:33] <Kilos> stickyboy ^^
[08:34] <pieter2627> np
[08:45] <stickyboy> Kilos: pieter2627 done. :D
[08:53] <Kilos> good man
[09:01] <stickyboy> This new Islamic State video is epic.
[09:01] <stickyboy> It makes me want to believe in God.
[09:06] <Kilos> stickyboy hit your lug with that link too hey
[09:07] <stickyboy> Kilos: Was just about to do that.
[09:09] <Kilos> good man
[09:10] <Kilos> hi ongolaBoy
[15:03] <Kilos> hi arnaudmez_
[15:25] <arnaudmez_> hi Kilos
[15:26] <arnaudmez_> sorry was a bit busy
[15:26] <Kilos> np man
[15:26] <Kilos> busy is good
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.256449
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2015-04-17-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[01:02] <OvenWerks> https://github.com/Ardour/ardour/releases/tag/4.0
[01:03] <OvenWerks> Wonder how long before it makes it to our repos...
[07:54] <zequence> I'm getting both ISOs now for testing now
[08:19] <astraljava> I'll be doing that late this evening.
[08:59] <zequence> OvenWerks: The meta installer won't include our latest meta package, but that's fine I guess, since it'll come with -audio
[08:59] <zequence> OvenWerks: The installer has it automatically though, as it looks for packages in a different way
[09:00] <zequence> The ubiquity plugin, I mean, has it
[09:16] <zequence> I guess ardour4 should appear in the debian git repo sometime not too far from the future, but since they are only just releasing jessie, there is probably no hurry
[09:16] <zequence> We should get it with our next release anyhow, and hopefully it'll be mature by the time for our next LTS :)
[09:41] <astraljava> zequence: Next LTS is... 16.04?
[09:41] <zequence> astraljava: YEp
[09:42] <astraljava> Super, so I'll have one practise release before that, then. :D
[09:44] <zequence> We could even consider 15.10 a beta for the LTS if we like
[09:51] <astraljava> That might be wise.
[09:52] <elfy> weren't 14.10,15.04,15.10 the alpha's and beta's for everyone :D
[09:52] <astraljava> I guess technically that is true, too. :D
[09:52] <zequence> Pretty much, but since we do so little changes we haven't even got to our Alpha yet
[09:52] <elfy> heh
[09:53] <astraljava> So we're practically just doing subsequent point releases for... 14.04? :p
[09:55] <zequence> I suppose the "interim" releases are a sort of a rolling release thing
[09:55] <zequence> You can upgrade to them, if you choose to
[09:57] <zequence> You more or less need to, even
[09:58] <zequence> Debian is releasing about every two years, and they have testing. Wouldn't be too much of a change for us if we went the same way
[09:59] <zequence> Less release practice though :)
[10:22] <zequence> I'm satisfied with the ISOs. There's the restart bug, and I didn't much test more than installation and jack
[13:12] <zequence> I'm probably going to get the bq phone with Ubuntu within the month. Would be interesting to see how some audio applications might work on it.
[13:13] <zequence> Also, how responsive is the kernel for RT audio
[15:07] <zequence> We should really look at making some videos for our next LTS
[15:07] <zequence> cub ^
[15:07] <zequence> At least some basic ones for audio
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2015-04-17-#juju-dev
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[06:26] <mattyw> davecheney, lesson learned - never eat
[06:27] <mup> Bug #1445338 was opened: Win builds fail: cloudconfig/userdatacfg.go:65: undefined: unixConfigure <ci> <regression> <windows> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445338>
[06:33] <mup> Bug #1445338 changed: Win builds fail: cloudconfig/userdatacfg.go:65: undefined: unixConfigure <ci> <regression> <windows> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445338>
[06:39] <mup> Bug #1445338 was opened: Win builds fail: cloudconfig/userdatacfg.go:65: undefined: unixConfigure <ci> <regression> <windows> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445338>
[07:51] <mup> Bug #1445369 was opened: Juju core freaks if /etc/os-release is not present <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445369>
[07:57] <mup> Bug #1445369 changed: Juju core freaks if /etc/os-release is not present <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445369>
[08:03] <mup> Bug #1445369 was opened: Juju core freaks if /etc/os-release is not present <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445369>
[09:45] <mup> Bug #1445146 changed: juju run fails after upgrade to 1.23-beta4.1 <juju-core:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445146>
[10:12] <wallyworld_> jam: looks like irc dropped out - the maas guys are in another meeting, did you want to chat about the error stuff?
[10:13] <jam> wallyworld_: I'm happy to chat if you'd like
[10:13] <jam> I'm in the hangout
[10:13] <wallyworld_> jam: ok, give me a sec and i'll change rooms
[13:01] <mup> Bug #1445369 changed: Juju core freaks if /etc/os-release is not present <juju-core:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445369>
[13:13] <mup> Bug #1444537 was opened: Log files from units deployed in lxc containers are shared on the physical node <logging> <lxc> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444537>
[13:22] <mup> Bug #1444537 changed: Log files from units deployed in lxc containers are shared on the physical node <logging> <lxc> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444537>
[13:31] <mgz> menn0: I still need to ammend that branch so one sec on review
[13:31] <menn0> mgz: kk
[13:31] <mup> Bug #1444537 was opened: Log files from units deployed in lxc containers are shared on the physical node <logging> <lxc> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444537>
[13:35] <mgz> menn0: it's okay, just wanted to run the unit test on vivid, they're good
[13:35] <jam> mgz: menn0: would it be reasonable to add a logger.Debugf to that code you landed ?
[13:36] <mgz> jam: yup, totally.
[13:36] <jam> (generally if you are suppressing an error it would be good to log it at least)
[13:36] <menn0> mgz: ship it
[13:37] <menn0> jam: you mean regarding upstart detection?
[13:37] <jam> menn0: when you get the error that /sbin/initctl isn't there, just log at Debugf level
[13:37] <jam> then if we get it for weird reasons
[13:37] <jam> we can enable debug logging
[13:37] <mgz> he means a bit like we added when trying to debug, dump the actual error back from exec.Command
[13:37] <jam> and see what the error we're getting is
[13:37] <menn0> jam: yep, that's a good idea
[13:37] <mgz> I shall add now
[13:38] <menn0> as long as it's just at debug
[13:38] <jam> mgz: menn0: absolutely. But anytime you "add reporting to figure out what's going on", that's a good sign we may want a logger.Debugf for future use
[13:38] <menn0> for sure
[13:40] <mgz> logger.Debugf("exec %q failed: %v", initctlPath, err)
[13:40] <mgz> maybe?
[13:40] <mgz> anything else?
[13:40] <jam> mgz: looks good to me
[13:41] <menn0> maybe %#v so we see the field names for the error
[13:41] <mgz> okay, done
[13:41] <jam> mgz: can you test the output to confirm?
[13:42] <menn0> mgz: sorry that should be %+v
[13:42] <jam> (hard code a different /sbin/init, or make a test fail)
[13:42] <menn0> talk about backseat coding... :)
[13:42] <jam> menn0: well, %+v is just the field names for auto format, #v isthe go syntax which often includes field names
[13:43] <menn0> jam, mgz: whatever works
[13:52] <mgz> I pushed the log statement, will land shortly
[15:16] <mup> Bug #1445338 changed: Win builds fail: cloudconfig/userdatacfg.go:65: undefined: unixConfigure <ci> <regression> <windows> <juju-core:Fix Released by gabriel-samfira> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445338>
[15:45] <mgz> going to need re-check review
[15:45] <mgz> for test junk I missed
[15:49] <mgz> okay, have pushed new test-fixing revision
[20:56] <mup> Bug #1445658 was opened: juju fills logs with attempts to do work on implicitly removed containers <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445658>
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| 2015-04-17T00:00:00
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-touch
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[04:29] <lotuspsychje> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/16/phone-updates-april/?utm_source=ubunteu&utm_medium=url_shortner&utm_term=Alss9r&utm_campaign=shortner
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> To our fledgling phone developer community, for all your votive contributions and vocal participation, thank you! Let’s not be vaunty: we have a lot to do yet, but my oh my what we’ve made together feels fantastic. You are the vigorous vanguard, the verecund visionaries and our venerable mates in this adventure. Thank you again.
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1425
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> thats for you devs :p
[05:23] <PhilippeP> Morning, New day, New image
[07:47] <robin-hero> Hi All! If somebody interested: If you copy the ~.local/share/history-service/history.sqlite file to an other device, your call log and your SMS messages work well with the new device :)
[07:47] <Tm_T> hi, anyone know any working method on getting openvpn connection to ubuntu phone?
[07:49] <Tm_T> or where to begin digging to possibly find something that could be worked on to make it happen
[08:02] <PhilippeP> robin-hero: nice tip !
[08:03] <robin-hero> PhilippeP: Thanks, so now we can make backup from this things :)
[08:35] <mardy> Laney: hi! About bug 1432613, the account-plugin-windows-live was providing only that chat service
[08:35] <mardy> Laney: can I remove the package from debian/control altogether, or should I keep it (users will be able to create a useless account)?
[08:59] <Se7> morning
[09:03] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Bat Appreciation Day! :-D
[09:39] * Se7 still waiting for update :(
[09:41] <PhilippeP> update was waiting when I woke up this morning ...
[09:45] <nothingspecial> My bq is stuck in a bootloop, selecting fastboot starts the bootloop, a couple of days a go I did get it into fastboot mode but the recovery failed. Is there another way?
[09:45] <ogra_> Se7, i guess because you didnt sacrifice enough chicken to the god of random() :)
[09:46] <ogra_> nothingspecial, do you know what you did before that started ?
[09:47] <ogra_> (i.e. how did you trigger it)
[09:47] <nothingspecial> ogra_: Had it charging over night, woke up and the screen was unresponsive so held down power and volume up
[09:47] <nothingspecial> been looping ever since
[09:47] <ogra_> hmm, so you didnt nothin active that caused a reboot, like switching the language or so ?
[09:48] <nothingspecial> The only thing I've done which I shouldn't have is edit /etc/timezone but that was 3 or 4 weeks ago when I first got it
[09:48] <ogra_> aha
[09:48] <ogra_> so the device was writable ?
[09:48] <nothingspecial> no I think I switched it back
[09:48] <nothingspecial> but I can't say 100%
[09:48] <ogra_> any other manual modifications ?
[09:49] <nothingspecial> only bash_aliases for ssh
[09:49] <nothingspecial> nothing outside of ~
[09:49] <ogra_> well, thats in your homedir ... i meant the system :)
[09:50] <nothingspecial> yeah nothing else outside of home
[09:50] <ogra_> so we have heard of people havoin this issue after switching language .... i wonder if it is effectively the possible timezone switch that this might bring along
[09:51] <ogra_> nothingspecial, http://askubuntu.com/questions/602834/how-to-reset-bq-ubuntu-phone-when-gui-is-inaccessible
[09:51] <nothingspecial> maybe
[09:51] <ogra_> bug 1439864
[09:52] <brunch875> ogra_ does that factory reset work even if it was set to writable mode and fiddled with?
[09:52] <ogra_> brunch875, no guarantees
[09:52] <ogra_> factory reset will only reset the writable parts of the system
[09:53] <ogra_> if oyu modify the normally readonly parts it wont have any effect on that ... (that gets reverted with the next OTA though)
[09:53] <Se7> sorry ogra_ i was afk what it s random()
[09:53] <brunch875> so if it's properly broken, it would need a re-flash?
[09:53] <nothingspecial> ogra I can't get into that mode possibly because the phone will not switch off
[09:53] <ogra_> Se7, the algorithm that decides who gets the pahsed updates ;)
[09:53] <brunch875> nothingspecial: try holding all buttons down
[09:54] <brunch875> that worked for me when I couldn't remove the battery
[09:54] <Se7> ok thans
[09:54] <Se7> i am not good in maths :P
[09:54] <ogra_> nothingspecial, there is definitely a hardwired way to get out of that ... i think holding the power button for very lon
[09:54] <brunch875> even in fastboot mode
[09:54] <ogra_> g
[09:55] <nothingspecial> brunch875: ogra_ oh hang on it went into fastboot mode.....
[09:55] <ogra_> cool
[09:55] <brunch875> cheerio
[09:56] <ogra_> if the factory reset doesnt work, you should always be able to re-flash from a PC
[09:56] <nothingspecial> I'm doing that now
[09:56] <nothingspecial> Failed to Enter Recovery :|
[09:56] <ogra_> one sec
[09:57] <nothingspecial> trying again
[09:58] <ogra_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/602035/how-do-i-use-ubuntu-device-flash-with-the-bq-aquaris-e4-5
[09:58] <ogra_> you need the recovery.img linked from that article
[09:58] <nothingspecial> yeah, I'm doing that
[09:58] <ogra_> and you need to use --bootatrap
[09:58] <ogra_> *bootstrap
[09:58] <nothingspecial> I'ts downloading something but the bq is going into bootloop before it finishes
[09:59] <nothingspecial> yeah I'm using --bootstrap ad the recovery image
[09:59] <ogra_> well, it should be in fastboot mode when you do that ...
[10:00] <ogra_> then it will first load the supplied recovery.img and boot this
[10:00] <nothingspecial> it is and it says USB Transfering.... o the phone but then the bootloop starts again and the pc says Failed to enter recovery
[10:01] <ogra_> hmm, how empty/fuull is your battery ?
[10:01] <ogra_> sounds like a power issue ... it should definitely transfer all the files and reboot into the same recovery afterwards
[10:01] <nothingspecial> I have no idea lol
[10:01] <brunch875> haha
[10:01] <ogra_> if it dies before the copying happened that sounds like it dies from power loss
[10:02] <nothingspecial> it's been like this for 3 days now, but it has been plugged ito the pc for an hour while I try and sort this
[10:02] <ogra_> try charging it for a while ... on the actual charger, not on a PC
[10:02] <nothingspecial> ok
[10:02] <nothingspecial> that sounds reasonable. I'll give it a go. Thanks
[10:02] <ogra_> PC USB ports only give 500mA ...
[10:02] <ogra_> iirc the power supply has 2A
[10:03] <ogra_> give it half an hour and then try again
[10:03] <brunch875> ogra_: Out of curiosity... I've heard that android 5 drivers stomp ubuntu. Does this reflash work after that, or should you install android 4 beforehand?
[10:03] <nothingspecial> will do thanks
[10:03] <ogra_> (and try to get it out of the reboot when it charges ;) )
[10:04] <nothingspecial> I'll leave it in fastboot mode
[10:04] <ogra_> good
[10:04] <ogra_> brunch875, on the ubuntu phone ?
[10:04] <brunch875> yeah
[10:04] <nothingspecial> thaks, I'll let you know how it goes
[10:04] <ogra_> not sure what happens if you install android on it ... we never tested that usecase :)
[10:05] <brunch875> I'm sure some people will eventually try and install android on it
[10:05] <ogra_> but since our default firmware comes from android 4.x you could indeed get probs if something writes the 5.0 driver firmware into some HW
[10:06] <ogra_> well, then they have to keep the pieces :)
[10:06] <brunch875> I don't suppose flashing ubuntu would refresh the drivers, would it?
[10:06] <ogra_> it will refresh the drivers ... but if something in android replaced the actual firmware in the HW you could be screwed
[10:07] <ogra_> we dont flash bootloader or modem firmware by default from ubuntu-device-flash
[10:07] <brunch875> scary!
[10:07] <ogra_> well, flashing android 4.x before going back to ubuntu would likely get you out of this
[10:07] <ogra_> but its a lot of extra work :)
[10:07] <brunch875> So it is possible to flash the bootloader?
[10:08] <ogra_> android does that
[10:08] <brunch875> I always wondered since I got my first android...
[10:08] <brunch875> since it's not as easy to break a desktop computer
[10:08] <ogra_> (only on open devices thouh ... )
[10:08] <brunch875> that would be like flashing the BIOS, wouldn't it be?
[10:08] <ogra_> devices with locked down bootloader will indeed not allow you to do that
[10:08] <ogra_> right
[10:09] <ogra_> well,fopr most phones a BIOS with a password set ... one that only the manufacturer knows
[10:09] <brunch875> It's the most sane choice, really. Some stuff should remain ROM
[10:10] <ogra_> and while the bq is completely open, you cant count on that fact for all ubuntu phones of the future ...
[10:10] <ogra_> it is always up to the manufacturer to decide how open he wants his system
[10:11] <brunch875> I would personally make the most basic stuff like the bootloader hardwired
[10:11] <brunch875> so there would be no possible way to break it
[10:12] <ogra_> (i.e. meizu does not have a single open device on the market ... will be very interesting to see what their MX4 ubuntu offers )
[10:12] <brunch875> I can't count the amount of times I killed my computers to then resurrect them
[10:24] <nalum> hello all, can anyone tell me what the default password is to use the terminal and if it can be changed?
[10:24] <brunch875> the password is the same as the lock screen one
[10:25] <brunch875> if there's no lock screen, the password is the same as the LAST lock screen
[10:25] <brunch875> if there was never a lock screen... I have no idea :)
[10:27] <brunch875> Word of advice: change your password by changing the lock screen. If you have a numeric lock screen and use 'passwd' in a terminal to change it to contain something with not only numbers, you won't be able to get past the lock screen (since you can only input numbers and the new password contains letters too!)
[10:28] <brunch875> better yet, never use 'passwd' from the terminal to change the password. Use the lock screen settings!
[10:30] <nalum> Ah, cool thanks brunch875
[10:32] <rbasak> After the new OTA I'm not seeing any images in scopes. Just empty spaces. Anyone else seeing that?
[10:32] <brunch875> rbasak: No issues on mine!
[10:43] <ogra_> rbasak, is your netwrok working ?
[10:45] <rbasak> ogra_: yes
[10:46] <ogra_> rbasak, bug 1430828
[10:48] <rbasak> Thanks
[10:55] <tekojo> bzoltan_: ping
[10:58] <nalum> brunch875: seems like it doesn't have a password if you don't set an unlock code or passphrase
[10:59] <brunch875> Yes, that makes sense
[11:04] <nalum> Is it possible to get apt-get or aptitude working? I guess even if I did, it's not supposed to be used
[11:09] <nothingspecial> ogra_: I can't get it into fastboot mode again, now. Selectig it triggers the boot loop again
[11:10] <ogra_> are you sure you select it right ? that menu is strangelky wired up to the buttons (iirc vol down is "enter" or some such, there is description on the screen)
[11:10] <nothingspecial> yeah, tried it about 20 times now
[11:11] <brunch875> nalum, check this out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/380258/how-to-change-the-ubuntu-installation-to-read-write-mode-on-a-mobile-device
[11:11] <ogra_> nalum, yes, but not recommended ... you would need to make the system writable and OTA updates would revert what you installed ...
[11:12] <ogra_> john-mcaleely, any idea how to help nothingspecial ?
[11:12] <ogra_> john-mcaleely, he is in a boot loop and cant get out of it even via fastboot or recovery
[11:12] <john-mcaleely> ogra_, that's a new one
[11:12] <ogra_> yes
[11:13] <nothingspecial> choosing fastboot just starts the bootloop again
[11:13] <john-mcaleely> that might be a back to BQ problem
[11:13] <john-mcaleely> it is new
[11:14] <nothingspecial> yeah, that's going to take a while then
[11:35] <rbasak> ogra_: I think I figured out what's going on - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1430828/comments/29
[11:47] <ogra_> rbasak, ah, could be a messed up default route ... awe is currently looking into that (there are cases where your default route points to the wrong thing when switching networks)
[11:49] <rbasak> ogra_: my default route must have been fine, because everything else that needed connectivity worked - for example getting text in scopes.
[11:49] <ogra_> ah, right, you said so
[11:49] <rbasak> ogra_: I suspect the issue is that if connectivity is broken at boot, something in the image-loading pipeline gets wedged forever.
[11:50] <ogra_> yeah
[12:43] <nik90> ogra_: is the phasing update for ota-3 complete?
[12:44] <ogra_> nik90, not sure, you have to wait for sil2100
[12:45] <nik90> ok
[12:47] <popey> 24 hours iirc
[12:47] <popey> https://twitter.com/popey/status/588754242569011200 19 hours ago, so probably not.
[12:47] <nik90> popey: I asked since my BQ that I got today, received its last update in jan 2015 before it was packaged I guess
[12:48] <nik90> and doesnt have any other OTAs except for app updates
[12:48] <popey> what version is it running?
[12:48] <popey> oh, also, yay, you got a bq ! :D
[12:48] <nik90> popey: thnx :) .. it is running r16
[12:48] <popey> that doesn't sound right
[12:49] <juzzlin_> mine had also r16 when I got it and it updated to r20
[12:50] <nik90> hmm .. not sure why mine is stuck at r16..I restarted it just in case.
[12:50] <juzzlin_> it didn't go smoothly in my device either...the updater was buggy
[12:50] <popey> oh
[12:50] <popey> well you won't get the update because of phased updates
[12:50] <popey> thats a flaw
[12:50] <popey> it should take you to r20 if r21 is phased.
[12:50] <ogra_> juzzlin_, buggy in what way ?
[12:50] <popey> dunno how that bit of it works, maybe now everyone is phased now.
[12:51] <nik90> https://imgur.com/axlWsVZ
[12:51] <popey> seems flawed if it is
[12:51] <nik90> popey: should this be reported against ubuntu-system-settings ?
[12:51] <ogra_> well, it is some magic done by slangasek and sil2100 ... not sure how it exactly works
[12:51] <juzzlin_> ogra_, the updater seemed to be stuck when donwloading the image, but it still apparently downloaded it in the background etc
[12:51] <ogra_> juzzlin_, did you file a bug ?
[12:53] <juzzlin_> ogra_, no because wasn't sure what happened and I got the device updated after a reboot
[12:53] <juzzlin_> the updater has worked correctly in the r20
[12:53] <ogra_> ok
[12:54] <popey> nik90: what does "system-image-cli -n" say?
[12:54] <nik90> popey: it gives no output
[12:55] <john-mcaleely> popey, if the phone is fresh from the factory, 16 is right
[12:55] <john-mcaleely> nik90, ^
[12:55] <nik90> john-mcaleely: I agree..but just wondering why it didnt update to r20 (OTA-2) while I wait for OTA-3 through phased updates.
[12:55] <john-mcaleely> interesting. yes, good question
[12:56] <popey> yeah :)
[12:56] <ogra_> because it perhaps phases all aupdates now
[12:56] <ogra_> *all updates
[12:56] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-image/+filebug?no_redirect
[12:56] <popey> file there IMO
[12:56] <popey> according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers (wot I just edited)
[12:56] * nik90 bookmarks that link
[13:00] <slangasek> ogra_: no, the phased percentage is applied to a specific image version on the channel (and by policy, should only be applied to the most recent version on the channel)
[13:00] <popey> so nik90 likely is experiencing a bug then.
[13:01] <ogra_> slangasek, ack, thanks !
[13:01] <ogra_> yeah, sounds like a bug
[13:01] <ogra_> nik90, do you see any system-image process in your processlist ?
[13:01] <slangasek> my recollection is that if the top image is phased, the user should still get the update to the previous version; but I'm not completely sure of that, would need to check this with barry
[13:01] * ogra_ remembers cases where a hanging s-i prevented the update
[13:02] <popey> he's rebooted...
[13:02] <ogra_> oh
[13:03] <nik90> ogra_: nope I dont see any
[13:03] <ogra_> slangasek, do you know what our word on changelogs for OTAs is ? "weill come in future OTAs" ? (i know lukasz had issues assembling one for this one, but someone asked on the ML)
[13:03] <slangasek> no, I don't know
[13:04] <nik90> so do I wait for this phased update period to be over to get the update? I am just hoping I am stuck at r16
[13:04] <nik90> s/am/am not
[13:04] <ogra_> nik90, we do too !
[13:05] <Elleo> nik90: if you use ubuntu-device-flash you shouldn't be hampered by the phasing
[13:05] <nik90> ogra_, slangasek: Alrite I will wait another 6-7 hours and keep you updated
[13:05] <popey> Elleo: we shouldn't have to use that method/
[13:05] <nik90> Elleo: true, but I just want to make sure another new user doesn't face this situation
[13:05] <Elleo> nik90: are you not even able to upgrade to r20?
[13:05] <nik90> Elleo: yes
[13:05] <popey> nik90: can you wait for the 24 hours to be up, and let us know what happens?
[13:05] <Danny_D> hi
[13:06] <nik90> popey: definitely
[13:06] <popey> ~3 hours from now
[13:06] <popey> thanks
[13:06] <Danny_D> where is the changelog for the update that rolled out to bq devices?
[13:06] <Elleo> Danny_D: there's this: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/16/phone-updates-april/ and the commitlog: http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ota/ota-3.commitlog
[13:06] <popey> there's also this http://pad.ubuntu.com/ChangeLog which has a list of debian package changes :)
[13:06] <popey> (and clicks)
[13:07] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10838468/ for those who don't have access to etherpad
[13:11] <nik90> bug 1445483 for now
[13:11] <popey> thanks nik90
[13:12] <Danny_D> Elleo: thanks
[13:12] <Elleo> Danny_D: no problem :)
[13:12] <popey> nik90: can you paste system-image-cli --info, ?
[13:12] * ogra_ grins noticing that Elleo and him just wrote nearly the same mail
[13:12] <Elleo> heh
[13:14] <nik90> popey: sure, 1 sec
[13:14] <nik90> done
[13:15] <popey> ta
[13:15] * popey flashes 16 to his krillin
[13:16] * cwayne needs to find the best way to get the custom changelog included in the commitlog
[13:18] <studio_> hi
[13:19] <popey> hello
[13:19] <ogra_> bah
[13:19] <kenvandine> Elleo, not ready for a full review yet, but can you look at my API changes in my serialized_content_transfers branch?
[13:19] <kenvandine> https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/content-hub/serialized_content_transfers/+merge/256035
[13:19] <ogra_> the "volume popup shows when audio starts playing" bug is back for me in vivd
[13:19] <kenvandine> Elleo, and if you have time, mind chatting about it after the standup?
[13:20] <kenvandine> i want to run some thoughts by you for opinions
[13:20] <studio_> i was reading offline the problem from nothingspecial. i had same prob to days ago. Power and VOL "-" fixed the loop on my phone
[13:22] <Danny_D> btw, the stallboard app is pure genius
[13:22] <Danny_D> "It's spyware."
[13:22] <ogra_> popey should make it paid ... he could get rich ;)
[13:22] <popey> haha
[13:22] <Elleo> kenvandine: okay, will take a look
[13:23] <Danny_D> you could update it to have even more sounds, tabs maybe
[13:23] <ogra_> he could merge it with the hodor app :)
[13:24] <Danny_D> or make a high score list, which quotes are the best
[13:24] <ogra_> (or is that gone ?)
[13:24] <Danny_D> by uploading click counts
[13:25] <popey> haha
[13:25] <popey> all great ideas :)
[13:26] <Danny_D> "Oh wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait u said COMMERCIAL SOFTWARE."
[13:26] <seb128> kenvandine, jgdx, do you know what's going on with those u-s-s tz tests failing something?
[13:26] <kenvandine> seb128, we have flaky tests again
[13:27] <jgdx> seb128, no, it's flaky
[13:27] <kenvandine> if you rebuild enough, it passes :/
[13:27] <kenvandine> we need to figure that out
[13:27] <seb128> kenvandine, jgdx, do we know why/what changed?
[13:27] <kenvandine> it's driving me nuts
[13:28] <Danny_D> having more quotes in stallboard would be great for doing prank calls at microsoft
[13:28] <popey> nik90: tried reproducing your issue... got offered #21 immediately, sorry :)
[13:29] <davmor2> I know that one doctor doctor I have a steering wheel on my........wait kenvandine you were saying it was confusing right ;)
[13:30] <seb128> kenvandine, jgdx, of course it's working on my device, several tries, all good
[13:30] <Danny_D> btw am i the only one constantly making screenshots since the volume buttons are used for this? :P
[13:30] <kenvandine> seb128, no idea, i tried on my device
[13:30] <kenvandine> and can't reproduce it
[13:30] <seb128> same here :-/
[13:30] <kenvandine> only happens in CI
[13:31] <seb128> of course
[13:31] <kenvandine> i spent hours trying yesterday :/
[13:31] <seb128> wouldn't be fun otherwise
[13:31] <kenvandine> it's time to ask cihelp i guess
[13:31] <nik90> popey: damn :P
[13:31] <jgdx> the instructions to recreate what happens during a ci run is daunting
[13:33] <nik90> popey: you are always at the extremes: thing either work very well or you find bugs that are impossible to reproduce ...be normal for once :D
[13:33] <popey> hah
[13:34] <popey> well, i dunno how system-image works, maybe my card is marked, and I will automagically get that update because I had it before
[13:34] <nik90> I guess you are in the good books of someone high up who controls this randomness
[13:35] <nik90> anyways I will wait another few hours
[13:35] <EdwardMorbius> after todays update I noticed after a while that unity8 is eating cpu like crazy, 150% usage and battery goes down fast, I will let it turn off and plug it into a charger, I hope its a temporary glitch
[13:35] <dobey> EdwardMorbius: what channel?
[13:36] <EdwardMorbius> dobey regular BQ update OTA-3 the latest
[13:36] <EdwardMorbius> I will see if it returns to normal after I turn it on again
[13:41] <sturmflut_> nik90, popey: I didn't get the first part of your conversation, but if it's about not getting the update, system-image-cli has a "--percentage" parameter
[13:41] <popey> we don't want to override it
[13:42] <popey> sturmflut_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-image/+bug/1445483 is the context
[13:42] <sturmflut_> popey: Oooh!
[13:43] <sturmflut_> popey: I never even thought about this case
[13:43] <EdwardMorbius> turned the phone on again, cpu usage seems normal at the moment, I will monitor it for a while.
[13:46] <nik90> sturmflut_: did you implement the phasing updates stuff?
[13:46] <seb128> kenvandine, jgdx, I got the test to fail 3 times on my n7 vivid device now
[13:46] <sturmflut_> nik90: No, I'm not even with Canonical ;)
[13:47] <jgdx> seb128, cool, what happens?
[13:47] <seb128> kenvandine, jgdx, it looks like it's tapping on the result, the bg color changes but the text doesn't turn red and it doesn't go back to pop the page
[13:47] <seb128> I can type manually and that works
[13:47] <nik90> sturmflut_: .. just wondering who is responsible for me not getting the cool battery fixes and stuff ;P
[13:49] <sturmflut_> Today some guy at work who I haven't talked to for half a year sent me an e-mail with a screenshot of all my apps in the Click store, and the comment "Laudable."
[13:49] <sturmflut_> So this is what stardom feels like
[13:49] <jgdx> seb128, kenvandine, sounds like https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/fix-datetime-test-failure/+merge/247586
[13:50] <seb128> jgdx, you mean?
[13:50] <seb128> the result is not offscreen
[13:50] <jgdx> seb128, what's the tests name?
[13:50] <seb128> jgdx, ubuntu_system_settings.tests.test_datetime.TimeDateTestCase.test_manual_tz_selection
[13:51] <jgdx> seb128, then it's not that
[13:52] <jgdx> that was a scroll_to_and_click which did not click properly for some reason
[13:52] <jgdx> it became a drag instead, and the test just stopped there
[13:54] <seb128> if it was a drag you would see it in the autopilot log?
[13:55] <jgdx> not sure, sorry
[13:57] <sturmflut_> Anybody using/working on WebGL in Oxide? I just checked if https://bugs.launchpad.net/webapps-touch/+bug/1356566 also applies to the E4.5 and it seems like WebGL support is even more broken than before
[14:04] <studio_> ehm, is the menu with power and vol - new on the bq?
[14:05] <ogra_> no, all ubuntu phones should have it
[14:07] <studio_> i flashed my phone from ubuntu-touch/rc/ubuntu-developer to and have again a boot-loop. last time, when i got this error, power and vol. - fixed that, but now i have this menu?
[14:07] <kenvandine> seb128, doing the same thing on your n7 manually, does it seem slow?
[14:08] <studio_> to "ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed"
[14:08] <kenvandine> the test failure seems to be timeout waiting for the header title to change
[14:08] <seb128> kenvandine, it's not a speed issue
[14:08] <seb128> no
[14:08] <seb128> it types "london ..." in the tz entry
[14:08] <seb128> results are listed
[14:08] <seb128> it "taps" on the second one
[14:08] <seb128> the bg of the listitem gets selected
[14:08] <seb128> but the text doesn't color in red
[14:08] <seb128> and the time/page pop doesn't happen
[14:08] <seb128> I can manually tap then and it works
[14:09] <seb128> in the 10s timeframe
[14:09] <seb128> so it's like the tap was a failed tap
[14:09] <seb128> like it was a dnd or something
[14:09] <kenvandine> test_same_tz_selection fails sometimes too
[14:09] <kenvandine> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-deb-autopilot-runner-vivid-mako/2021/testReport/junit/ubuntu_system_settings.tests.test_datetime/TimeDateTestCase/test_same_tz_selection/
[14:09] <seb128> the onClicked: doesn't trigger
[14:09] <kenvandine> different test
[14:09] <seb128> kenvandine, same issue I guess
[14:09] <seb128> tap not generating an onClicked for some reason
[14:10] <kenvandine> great that you reproduced it locally
[14:10] <seb128> they both use self.main_view.pointing_device.click_object()
[14:10] <kenvandine> i ran it several times yesterday and no failure
[14:10] <kenvandine> on my krillin
[14:11] <seb128> yeah, I had to run it 15 times to get a failure there
[14:11] <kenvandine> my mako was busy testing something else :)
[14:11] <kenvandine> ugh
[14:11] <kenvandine> in CI it fails much more often than that
[14:14] <nik90> popey, slangasek, ogra_ : I got the update :) Blue led notification
[14:14] <ogra_> \o/
[14:14] <popey> interesting
[14:14] <nik90> holy cow 414.5 mb
[14:14] <ogra_> sil2100, ignore me in the other channel then :)
[14:14] <popey> still a bug :)
[14:15] <nik90> I guess the phased-updates does delay it then
[14:15] <ogra_> nik90, because you skipped OTA2 for whatever reason ... else it would only be half of that :)
[14:15] <ogra_> yeah, but you should have gotten -2
[14:15] <nik90> so shall i update? Any other logs you guys might need?
[14:15] <sil2100> I checked and it's 100% finished now, might have taken a bit longer than expected ;)
[14:16] <ogra_> nik90, probably tar up /var/log at least
[14:16] <nik90> sure
[14:17] <studio_> is someone here using "KRILIN01A-S15A_BQ_L100EN_1187_150417" without a boot-loop?
[14:18] * ogra_ doubts many people use the zips from teh bq site at all
[14:19] <studio_> ?
[14:20] <studio_> that is from "touch/devel-proposed"
[14:20] <ogra_> studio_, most people using the bq in here bought it with ubuntu
[14:21] * ogra_ has no clue where that cryptic thn up there comes from ... not a version we typically use
[14:22] <ogra_> *thing
[14:25] <Elleo> kenvandine: heya you wanted to chat about the serialisation stuff? shall we open a new hangout or just do it over IRC?
[14:26] <kenvandine> lets do a hangout... but give me 5m
[14:26] <kenvandine> Elleo, ok?
[14:26] <Elleo> okay, sure thing :)
[14:28] <studio_> ogra_, my phone was working half an our ago with the version from "ubuntu-touch/rc/ubuntu-developer" but after the "update" i got the loop. i'll go to re-flash now the complete phone ...
[14:29] <popey> someone in -uk is reporting boot loop on update
[14:29] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10838874/
[14:31] <Se7> no update in uk yet
[14:32] <jgdx> abeato, ping
[14:32] <abeato> jgdx, pong
[14:32] <jgdx> abeato, hey, are you using phonesim?
[14:32] <abeato> jgdx, not really, I've never used it
[14:32] <jgdx> abeato, okay, nm then :)
[14:32] <abeato> maybe Wellark^^
[14:33] <ogra_> popey, lol, i wonder how he thinks more buttons would help though :)
[14:33] <popey> heh
[14:33] <ogra_> its not like you then dont make the decision "press" or "dont press"
[14:33] <jgdx> abeato, just out of curiosity, how do you test calls and smses? :)
[14:33] <abeato> jgdx, with a real SIM :p
[14:34] <abeato> note that phonesim is useless anyway when testing rilmodem drivers
[14:34] <abeato> because it is actually a driver
[14:34] <jgdx> abeato, that makes sense
[14:36] <Wellark> jgdx, abeato ?
[14:36] <jgdx> Wellark, hey, I'm using phonesim and I'm missing interfaces.
[14:36] <abeato> Wellark, jgdx was interested in phonesim
[14:37] <jgdx> Wellark, if you have moment, could you sim a sim and check if you're missing them as well? E.g. connectionmanager.
[14:38] <Wellark> jgdx: I'm now on mtg
[14:38] <Wellark> jgdx: will ping you soon
[14:38] <jgdx> Wellark, thanks
[14:40] <BOHverkill> How can I add my own music/sounds as ringtone?
[14:40] <juzzlin_> I just got the r21 and everything went smoothly :)
[14:42] <ogra_> yippie
[14:43] <ogra_> BOHverkill, currently only via a hack by making the system temporary wirtable,putting your audio file into the right dir and making it readonly again
[14:43] <jgdx> abeato, segfault in ofono seems to be a part of it :)
[14:43] <studio_> ok, after flashing 1.5gb by phone is working again :)
[14:44] <abeato> jgdx, lol
[14:45] <BOHverkill> ogra_: mhhh k, but if I do that is there a risk that I do not get OTAs anymore?
[14:46] <ogra_> BOHverkill, nah, you will always get OTAs
[14:47] <jgdx> abeato, any idea what this is? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10838959/
[14:48] <BOHverkill> ogra_: k who do I do that and which formats are supported?
[14:48] <ogra_> BOHverkill, adding a single file that isnt inside an OTA wont do any harm
[14:48] <ogra_> i thinnk mp3 and ogg ...
[14:48] <BOHverkill> ogra_: and what harm?
[14:48] <ogra_> no harm, as i said :)
[14:48] <abeato> jgdx, hm, probably rild is not present. are you running it on a phone?
[14:49] <jgdx> abeato, desktop
[14:49] <abeato> jgdx, you need to exlude the rildev plugin in that case
[14:49] <BOHverkill> ogra_: no what harms an ota?
[14:49] <BOHverkill> *and
[14:49] <abeato> with ofono -P rildev
[14:50] <ogra_> BOHverkill, its rather the other way round ... an OTA harms your changes ... if you changed any existing file in the rootfs it would be reverted ...
[14:51] <richi__> Wow, how many times does the phone boot during an OTA? I almost thought it was in a boot loop.
[14:51] <ogra_> 2 x
[14:52] <ogra_> it boots to recovery after downloading, unpacks the diff in the rootfs and reboots to normal
[14:52] <richi__> It looked more like something between 5 and 10.
[14:53] <studio_> :)
[14:53] <ogra_> that doesnt sound right
[14:53] <studio_> as i said ...
[14:54] <ogra_> and is definitely not anything we have seen in testing
[14:54] <BOHverkill> ogra_: k changing or deleting an existing file on the ro mounted partition, i am right?
[14:54] <ogra_> BOHverkill, right ... or switching to writable and installing something etc etc
[14:54] <BOHverkill> harms the ota
[14:54] <ogra_> no
[14:54] <ogra_> the OTA would just revert your changes
[14:55] <BOHverkill> oh k
[14:56] <richi__> It switched between black and white screen a couple of times, until I gew worried. But as soon as I saw the ubuntu logo again, everything was well.
[14:57] <jgdx> abeato, that was it! Thank you. /cc Wellark
[14:57] <ogra_> ah, so you had the screen flashing, not a reboot ?
[14:57] <abeato> np
[14:57] <BOHverkill> ogra_: and how do i install the ringtones?
[14:57] <richi__> It looked just like rebooting every time.
[14:58] <ogra_> richi__, well, rebooting means that you see the bq logo for a while
[14:59] <richi__> ogra_ Yes, white means white with the bq logo, then black again.
[14:59] <ogra_> BOHverkill, sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[15:00] <ogra_> BOHverkill, sudo cp /path/to/your/ringtone/ringtone.ogg /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/ringtones/
[15:00] <ogra_> BOHverkill, sudo mount -o remount,ro /
[15:00] <ogra_> if the latter command says it is busy, call "sudo sync" and then reboot the device ... so it is readonly again ... you dont want to keep it rw
[15:04] <matv1> would it be possible to show to which phone nbr an incomming call was made (in case of dual sim). Both in notifications as wel as in recent calls within the phone app?
[15:05] <ogra_> sure, it is just software :)
[15:05] <matv1> or does a feature request/bug exist?
[15:05] <matv1> if not should it need to be filed against phone app or notifications?
[15:06] <matv1> or both?
[15:06] <ogra_> bfiller, ^^^ do we have a wishlist bug for that ?
[15:06] <matv1> especially in case of missed calls its usefull
[15:07] <bfiller> ogra_: should already be there in the recents view, left swipe to reveal more actions and press info button
[15:07] <ogra_> matv1, ^^
[15:08] <bfiller> oh wait
[15:08] <bfiller> maybe that doesn't show which number it was receieved on
[15:08] <BOHverkill> ogra_: thx :)
[15:08] <matv1> yes it is there bfiller
[15:09] <bfiller> matv1: ok cool, I only have one sim atm so can't test
[15:09] <matv1> at least in the phone app
[15:10] <matv1> bfiller ok not in notifications yet
[15:11] <matv1> but I can live with just the one place I guess
[15:12] <bfiller> matv1: would make sense for it to show up in notification as well, please file a bug at bugs.launchpad.net/telephony-service and we'll take a look
[15:12] <matv1> bfiller ok will do that. thanks!
[15:15] <matv1> bfiller you would need to think about a way to implement that in terms of ui because you can't do it the same way you did in the phone app
[15:15] <matv1> bcause you cant open a new page from there
[15:15] <matv1> i think
[15:16] <bfiller> matv1: I would think the notification would say "Missed call from <number> on <simId>" or something like that
[15:16] <matv1> if you can squeeze that in :)
[15:17] <bfiller> yup
[15:17] <bfiller> can do multi line
[15:18] <matv1> ok in that case agreed. might want to consider the same way in the phone app. the current way is not optimal in terms of discoverability :)
[15:18] <matv1> or else i am bad at discovering
[15:20] <bfiller> matv1: agreed, we're working on a way to make the swipe actions more discoverable
[15:20] <bfiller> matv1: its' very hidden currently
[15:21] <bfiller> renatu: that reminds me, where are those branches for the first time hints of the swipe actions on dialer and messaging?
[15:22] <bfiller> don't think we ever finished
[15:22] <renatu> bfiller, let me find it
[15:22] <renatu> bfiller, https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/dialer-app/swipe-item-demo/+merge/251085
[15:23] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, i was able to fix that dim-timeout bug in settings :)
[15:23] <bfiller> renatu: thanks, will add a story for this
[15:23] <matv1> ah you are thinking of incorperating it into the first-run demo?
[15:24] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, hah thought so
[15:24] <bfiller> renatu: maybe we can look at in sprint with olga
[15:24] <pmcgowan> cool
[15:24] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, there isn't a milestone set on bug 1437510
[15:24] <bfiller> matv1: more like first time you go to the recents page it's an demo that shows you the tips for that view
[15:24] <studio_> maybe you should users give a hint that that the update is about 37 times flashing the screen on the bq and it could take while ... "i" thought it is a boot-loop!
[15:25] <kenvandine> please set as appropriate, and we'll land it based on that
[15:25] <ogra_> studio_, it doesnt do that and it isnt normal ...
[15:25] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, we are not gating with milestones now, they are more for tracking
[15:25] <pmcgowan> but I will set it
[15:25] <renatu> bfiller, this is a good idea, but I think olga has some different ideas for it, and SDK has his own implementation of the listem items that should be used by the apps
[15:25] <kenvandine> oh... i thought we were still :)
[15:26] <renatu> bfiller, but yeah we can use it as temporary solution :(
[15:26] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, but it does help me prioritize branches in the approved queue for landing
[15:26] <studio_> ogra_, i never had that before, so for me this is new
[15:26] <bfiller> renatu: yeah
[15:26] <pmcgowan> very good marked for ww17
[15:26] <renatu> bfiller, I do not like temporary solutions anymore, they give me a lot of work to maintain it later :(
[15:26] <ogra_> studio_, but you are neither using the official channel nor the official hardware
[15:27] <matv1> bfiller ok I understand. i will look out fr it in future proposed images :) thnks again
[15:27] <ogra_> could well be that vivid images have an issue amt
[15:27] <ogra_> *atm
[15:27] <bfiller> matv1: np
[15:27] <studio_> ogra_, i am on "channel: ubuntu-touch/stable/bq-aquaris.en" / "alias: ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09" is that not official?
[15:28] <studio_> and what means official hardware?
[15:28] <ogra_> you just gave me a diferent channel in PM
[15:28] <studio_> no, i told you, a am back on the original
[15:28] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, thx
[15:29] <studio_> r19 is my lates original
[15:29] <ogra_> studio_, still, your partitioning and your bootloader are different from the ubuntu phone
[15:29] <ogra_> (beyond having the buttons on the glass)
[15:30] <studio_> ogra_, scatter is the same as in the git for the ubuntu-kernel
[15:30] <ogra_> ?
[15:31] <studio_> "MT6582_Android_scatter.txt"
[15:31] <ogra_> no idea what that is
[15:31] <studio_> it is the partition
[15:32] <ogra_> no, the partitioning is created at produiction of the phone in the factory
[15:32] <ogra_> no matter what that file there says
[15:33] <Wellark> jgdx: ping
[15:33] <ogra_> and the bootloader is flashed during the factory process too ... nothing in ubuntu ever touches the bootloader later
[15:35] <jgdx> Wellark, pong
[15:37] <studio_> ogra_, you never used the mtk-flash-tools?
[15:38] <ogra_> studio_, nope, only a few elite people like john-mcaleely use the mtk tools in canonical :)
[15:38] <ogra_> the rest of us uses ubuntu-device-flash
[15:38] <john-mcaleely> :-)
[15:38] <cwayne> john-mcaleely is 1337
[15:38] <ogra_> +1
[15:38] <studio_> so, try them, they are easy :)
[15:38] <ogra_> !
[15:39] <ogra_> studio_, but dont help me to find issues with the tools i work on or maintain
[15:39] <ogra_> they are for android users :)
[15:39] <ogra_> i use the ubuntu tools :)
[15:40] <studio_> or users who want to try other things ...
[15:42] <studio_> ogra_, bq made an easy way for their customers, they can flash all versions for their device.
[15:43] <brunch875> studio_: can you hand me a link?
[15:43] <fgimenez> hi renatu, can you take a look at this mp when possible https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/address-book-app/flake8-fixes/+merge/256684 ?
[15:43] <studio_> bq.com ?
[15:43] <brunch875> I mean to that easy link
[15:43] <brunch875> that "easy way"
[15:43] <studio_> flash-tools?
[15:43] <studio_> wait
[15:44] <ogra_> studio_, yes, because windows users can not install ubuntu-device-flash
[15:45] <Wellark> jgdx: other server
[15:45] <studio_> here are the flash-tools: http://www.mibqyyo.com/descargas/2013/11/25/drivers-y-utilidades/
[15:45] <ogra_> its not like bq made them btw, they are just the standard android flash tools using an android like version of our image that is differently packed than the one from the server
[15:45] <brunch875> thanks!
[15:46] <renatu> fgimenez, sure
[15:46] <brunch875> ubuntu-device-flash seems a lot more comfortable
[15:47] <ogra_> well, it has its own issues :) but yeah
[15:47] <mariogrip> don't know if this is a bug or not implemented, but live swap sim card does not work.
[15:47] <studio_> "its not like bq made them btw,..." sorry, this is nosens. bq said, they wanted to publish the firmware in march ...
[15:47] <studio_> it is not official released, but it is "public"
[15:50] <ogra_> studio_, hmm ?
[15:50] <studio_> it is not a "android-flash-tool"
[15:50] <ogra_> studio_, bq didnt write these tools ... they are the standard android flash tools for mtk devices ... and use a re-packaged image
[15:50] <studio_> it is not android depending!
[15:51] <ogra_> which is why the image you can download at bq.com is a .zip
[15:51] <studio_> it is a flash-tool
[15:51] <ogra_> a zip that comes in the same format as an android image
[15:51] <ogra_> so the mtk flash tool can use it
[15:51] <studio_> no, it comes in a mt6582-format
[15:52] <brunch875> yikes! I must control myself not to flash devel
[15:52] <studio_> read about the scatter.txt
[15:54] <ogra_> studio_, really, i dont care about these tools ... if they work for you thats good though
[15:54] <ogra_> i told you what i know about them ...
[15:54] <studio_> bq self told me, the E4.5 will be the ubuntu-phone. i prefer the E5 HD with 16gb flash
[15:54] <studio_> it is also krillin
[15:55] <ogra_> not sure what you mean with that
[15:56] <studio_> with krillin?
[15:57] <ogra_> yes, there is only one device with that name
[15:57] <studio_> https://github.com/bq/aquaris-E5/tree/aquaris-E5/mediatek/config/krillin
[15:57] <ogra_> (wouldnt make much sense to have more than one with a name thats supposed to be unique :) )
[15:57] <studio_> :)
[15:57] <studio_> same cpu
[15:58] <studio_> as the E4
[15:59] <ogra_> most likely even the same board
[16:03] <fgimenez> renatu, thx!
[16:03] <dobey> probably the same phone, with a different screen and flash?
[16:03] <studio_> E4 and E5?
[16:04] <studio_> sure
[16:04] <studio_> the old E5 was with 8gb, the E4 is using a mt6582m
[16:09] <studio_> dobey, all kernels (E4, E4.5 and E5 HD) are built with nfc, and that is what i do not understand :(
[16:10] <dobey> studio_: i don't understand why you care if the kernels were built with nfc enabled
[16:10] <ogra_> or why you care about android kernels :)
[16:10] <studio_> so it can handle nfc?
[16:11] <studio_> not android-kernels. also ubuntu-kernel!
[16:11] <ogra_> well, same thing i explained you about cifs and nfs
[16:11] <ogra_> nothing in the system can make use of NFC yet
[16:11] <ogra_> once the API has support for it, it will also be enabled in the kernel
[16:13] <ogra_> until then you have to enable it on your own
[16:13] <studio_> ogra_, cifs and nfs/nfsd are not in the ubuntu-kernel. but nfc is enabled "CONFIG_NFC_MT6605=y"
[16:15] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, thinking about the dim-timeout setting, if it is expected to always be activity-time - 10, why even have a separate setting in gsettings
[16:15] <kenvandine> we can't ever set it independent of activity-timeout
[16:15] <ogra_> kenvandine, no, that is why we have the bug for it :)
[16:15] <kenvandine> so USC should dim the screen on activity-timeout - 10
[16:16] <kenvandine> the USC task was set invalid, so in settings i always set dim-timeout to activity-timeout - 10 when activity-timeout changes
[16:16] <dobey> studio_: if nfc is enabled and there's no hardware for it, then it won't be used
[16:17] <kenvandine> which seems wrong, we should drop the setting and just dim based on activity-timeout
[16:17] <ogra_> kenvandine, +1
[16:17] <dobey> studio_: just like how cirrus video drivers are enabled by default, but i'm not in 1995 any more
[16:17] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, ^^
[16:17] <ogra_> kenvandine, so if you do this already in settings, are we sure there is anything in poweroff_timeout at all ?
[16:17] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, my fix works around that issue, but i really think eventually USC should handle that automatically and drop the setting completely
[16:18] <kenvandine> in setting we only set activity-timeout in gsettings
[16:18] <ogra_> looks like you subtract from 0 or some such, if you actually use the corrent setting
[16:18] <ogra_> ah
[16:18] <ogra_> you dont use the dbus call thats described in the bug ?
[16:18] <kenvandine> so i have a branch that sets dim-timeout when activity-timeout changes
[16:18] <kenvandine> no
[16:18] <kenvandine> it's just gsettings
[16:19] <kenvandine> my branch works fine, but it's silly to have a separate setting that is expected to always be relative to another setting
[16:20] * kenvandine reopens USC task and comments
[16:21] <studio_> dobey, i am confused right now, who made the kernel?
[16:21] <ogra_> studio_, mtk
[16:21] <studio_> i thought you?
[16:22] <dobey> omfg
[16:22] <dobey> studio_: what do you mean "made"?
[16:22] <dobey> linux kernel developers "made" the kernel
[16:22] <ogra_> well, effectively linus torvalds made it
[16:22] <dobey> mtk made drivers that are added to the kernel
[16:22] <studio_> dobey, some days ago popey said "we" make the kernel ...
[16:22] <ogra_> well, google changed it first
[16:22] <dobey> bq published a git repo with the mtk stuff and the kernel
[16:22] <ogra_> then mtk added drivers
[16:23] <dobey> canonical/ubuntu compiled the kernel
[16:23] <ogra_> right, we build the binary
[16:23] <ogra_> (and we added other bits like apparmor and a ton of fixes that bq sent to mtk)
[16:23] <dobey> right
[16:23] <davmor2> studio_: you know the whole conversation that you had with ogra and dobey where you went round and round in circles about the kernel and the drivers and we said then we didn't own the kernel or drivers, guess what it looks like you are having that self same conversation again :D
[16:24] <dobey> we don't add arbitrary module configuration to the build though
[16:24] <ogra_> so linus, google, mtk and canonical *made* the kernel :)
[16:24] <ogra_> davmor2, yeah, we like to go in loops :)
[16:24] <dobey> ogra_: and microsoft too!
[16:24] <dobey> i prefer to be going 200+ MPH if i'm going in loops
[16:25] <davmor2> dobey: you need to type faster then :P
[16:25] <ogra_> you need good shoes doing that
[16:25] <dobey> davmor2: or take a tryp to Indianapolis next month and get my Indy/CART license :)
[16:25] <dobey> trip even
[16:25] <ogra_> whee
[16:26] <ogra_> do you ?
[16:26] <dobey> i don't have that license now, no. but the Indy 500 week has a bunch of events, and training thing where you can pay to drive a car round the track and get a license :)
[16:27] <studio_> davmor2, could you please give me a hint how to patch the kernel?
[16:27] <ogra_> yeah, in germany we perfer to drive straight ... we got the autobahn ;)
[16:27] <davmor2> studio_: no idea I don't patch kernels
[16:27] <studio_> so
[16:28] <mariogrip> .... the kernel.ubuntu.com/git is still down!!
[16:28] <ogra_> (though my car doesnt go above 170mph ... )
[16:28] <Myself5> ogra_, unless there is a LKW in front of you or the speedlimit is there :P
[16:28] <davmor2> ogra_: dobey: so I just need a private road :)
[16:28] <ogra_> Myself5, indeed :)
[16:29] <davmor2> studio_: why are trying to patch the kernel anyway
[16:29] <dobey> studio_: patch -p0 < kernel-fix.patch
[16:29] <dobey> though you don't need a patch
[16:29] <dobey> you need logic and reason
[16:29] <studio_> because i need cifs and nfs
[16:30] <dobey> you don't need a patch for that
[16:30] <ogra_> just a config change
[16:30] <dobey> you need a kernel built with support
[16:31] <studio_> dobey, have you ever read the patch for the aquaris 5, without "E" ?
[16:31] <ogra_> "the patch" ?
[16:31] <dobey> you need to go configure the upstream kernel of the same version, to have those features enabled, find what CONFIG_ options were enabled in that config after you do the "make menuconfig" to enable them, and then apply those CONFIG_ options to the bq kernel and build it with those
[16:31] <dobey> it's not hard
[16:31] <ogra_> dobey, did you still have that line in your history from last time ?
[16:31] <ogra_> or did you actually type it again
[16:32] <dobey> you can do that, or you can just stop trying to get nfs/cifs on your phone, because it's not enabled by default
[16:32] <dobey> ogra_: lol, i typed that again
[16:32] <mariogrip> popey, any news on kernel.ubuntu.com/git?
[16:32] <davmor2> dobey: you need more coding to do then surely ;)
[16:32] <popey> mariogrip: lemme ask
[16:32] <dobey> just like it looks like i'm going to have to type the "please stop asking the same f'n questions over and over again after you've been given answers" again
[16:33] <ogra_> ogasawara, is anyone working on gettin gitweb back up ?
[16:33] <dobey> davmor2: i need more codeine maybe
[16:33] <popey> mariogrip: yeah, known problem, sorry
[16:33] <ogra_> ogasawara, its off since a while now :/
[16:33] <ogasawara> ogra_: believe me, we know, we've been the one's shouting the loudest. IS is getting it sorted.
[16:34] <studio_> dobey, please gimme an example in the same way as the patch for the aquaris 5
[16:34] * ogra_ hugs ogasawara
[16:34] <davmor2> dobey: that I can help you with, /me hands dobey some of his co-dydramol
[16:34] * brunch875 splits ogra_
[16:34] <davmor2> :D
[16:34] <brunch875> damn damn get a hotel you two
[16:34] <dobey> studio_: wtf are you talking about with aquaris 5?
[16:34] <ogra_> brunch875, i doubt her husband would be happy about that :)
[16:34] <dobey> davmor2: heh :)
[16:35] <studio_> dobey, "you" do not like, when i post things twice ...
[16:36] <dobey> studio_: nobody likes it
[16:36] <studio_> so, read the history
[16:36] <dobey> studio_: but nobody has any idea what you mean about aquaris 5 either
[16:36] <dobey> *sigh*
[16:37] <dobey> no, i'm going to go finish work on in-app purchases, so i can write an app specifically for you, which will have one consumable item for purchase, which i will require you to buy every time you want to ask me a question.
[16:38] <ogra_> did you just invent paid IRC ?
[16:38] <dobey> because at this rate, i could have retired already on those earnings
[16:38] <ogra_> ted, !!!
[16:39] <dobey> ogra_: sadly i am not the first to come up with the concept of paid support requests :)
[16:39] <ogra_> ted, since when is that volume popup bug back ? every time i start some audio on my phone in vivid i get the popup ... that was gone for a while already ...
[16:40] <popey> ooh, i get volume popup whenever i get a notification :(
[16:40] <kenvandine> oh no, not that bug!
[16:40] <ogra_> dobey, no, but with phone driven tokens for IRC support :)
[16:40] <ted> ogra_, Hmm, that would be odd.
[16:40] <ogra_> popey, but i'm not crazy, am i ? that was gone inbetween ...
[16:40] <ted> ogra_, Which image?
[16:40] <popey> latest vivid for me
[16:40] <ogra_> ted, yesterdays vivid
[16:40] <ted> Hmm, let me update, it was fixed.
[16:41] <ted> I'd be surprised if any of the recent changes brought it back, they were just tiny fixes.
[16:41] <dobey> ogra_: it reminds me a bit of the crazy custom irc client for getting support we did, way back in ximian days
[16:41] <ogra_> hah
[16:41] * ogra_ pets his rupert on the shelf
[16:41] <dobey> heh
[16:42] <dobey> i have a bunch of monkeys in my office
[16:44] <davmor2> I have pengiuns tigers bear and lynx in the office
[16:44] <ogra_> a zoo
[16:44] <ted> "This software was developed in front of a stuffed audience"
[16:45] <ogra_> lol
[16:45] <davmor2> ted: nice
[16:45] <brunch875> Talking about sound notifications... there's something which has been bugging me lately A LOT.
[16:45] <brunch875> Media ignores silent mode. Volume rockers only change media volume when media is playing.
[16:45] <brunch875> And thus I can't play a video inside a library if the media sound is set to average+!
[16:45] <ogra_> mpt, ^^^
[16:46] <ogra_> brunch875, silent mode is supposed to only silence notifications ... anything you interactively start on the phone will still have sound
[16:46] <brunch875> I know :( That's the problem
[16:46] <ogra_> mpt, i think we need a better naming ...
[16:47] <ogra_> "do not distrurb"
[16:47] <davmor2> ogra_: NO RINGER MODE is too long though
[16:47] <ted> Probably just having the menu item being "Alert Sounds"
[16:47] <brunch875> there should be a "mute everything" like on the computer
[16:47] <ogra_> just use pathwind
[16:48] * ogra_ ducks from things kenvandine could throw
[16:48] <brunch875> hahaha
[16:48] <davmor2> brunch875: no there shouldn't if you get a call you want to be able to talk on it even in silent mode
[16:49] <brunch875> then... a "mute speaker" option?
[16:49] <brunch875> the bottom one, I mean
[16:50] <dobey> davmor2: you need a liger
[16:50] <dobey> ogra_: "GTFO mode"
[16:50] <ted> Ah, I bet I know what happened. (still waiting on update)
[16:50] <davmor2> dobey: but the tion's are cuter
[16:51] <ted> rsalveti, I think that your change to remove duplicate volumes needs to be adjusted to still record the reason.
[16:51] <ted> rsalveti, Otherwise the reason stays as user input so it shows the notifications.
[16:51] <ogra_> dobey, and an acronyms of the world handbook in the box ...
[16:52] <brunch875> Imagine the following scenario: Me in a very boring class. Pull out phone and launch pathwind. Music blasts across the room. Haste to close the program to silence it.
[16:52] <dobey> ogra_: or hungarian phrase books
[16:53] <brunch875> At that point there was no way I could play my geyums :(
[16:53] <dobey> "my hovercraft is full of eels"
[16:53] <ogra_> my hovercraft is full of eels !
[16:53] <ogra_> LOL
[16:53] <ogra_> *snap*
[16:53] <dobey> haha
[16:53] <brunch875> since I couldn't mute media / lower it from blasting high
[16:53] <ted> brunch875, So I think the bug is "no way to adjust multimedia volume when multimedia isn't playing"
[16:54] <ted> brunch875, File that on ubuntu-ux
[16:55] <brunch875> will do, will do! For now I'm using the dead-audio-jack trick
[16:55] * dobey drinks his lunch in his ximian pint glass
[17:00] <Wellark> jgdx: sorry, I need to run, but.
[17:00] <Wellark> jgdx: make sure that in the Modem interface
[17:00] <Wellark> you set Powered to true
[17:01] <Wellark> jgdx: and also Online()
[17:01] <Wellark> * Online-property
[17:02] <ted> ogra_, I can't get them to come up with 174
[17:02] <ted> ogra_, Do you have steps?
[17:03] <ogra_> ted, i use my lautfm player from the store
[17:03] <ogra_> once i start a radio stream the thing pops up
[17:03] <Wellark> jgdx: oh, you got it resolved already
[17:03] <Wellark> goo
[17:03] <Wellark> d
[17:03] <Wellark> everybody, have a great weekend!
[17:05] * ted installs
[17:05] <ogra_> but popey seems to see it for standard notifications
[17:05] <ogra_> (i didnt have any)
[17:06] <ted> Hmm, no, that doesn't pop notifications for me.
[17:06] <ted> I'm now listening to Celtic Rock, something I didn't know existed yesterday.
[17:07] <ogra_> LOL
[17:07] <ogra_> yeah, there are some really weird stations in there
[17:07] <cwayne> celtic rock is awesome
[17:07] <Sleep_Walker> hi
[17:07] <ted> Hah, Southern Rock Radio
[17:08] <Sleep_Walker> I'm happy owner of new Aquaris E4.5
[17:08] <ogra_> yay !
[17:08] <brunch875> Wohoo!
[17:09] <Sleep_Walker> I'm trying to set up sync with google, but it seems that virtual keyboard doesn't appear even when I have focus on edit object (now verification code)
[17:09] <Sleep_Walker> is that known problem? is there known workaround?
[17:09] <popey> i have seen that before
[17:10] <brunch875> keep tappity tap tap
[17:10] <brunch875> or close and reopen
[17:10] <popey> if you swipe away to another app and back again it sometimes works
[17:10] <Sleep_Walker> my guess (but not confirmed) is that it is related to suspend
[17:10] <brunch875> it happened the same with my last android :|
[17:10] <brunch875> I think it's a website issue
[17:10] <dobey> switching away and back almost always works to fix it for me, with the messaging app
[17:10] <Sleep_Walker> virtual keyboard is not part of website - it doesn't sound correct
[17:10] <dobey> brunch875: i think it's a toolkit issue actually
[17:11] <brunch875> it's bizzare, since it happened the same in my android
[17:11] <brunch875> so I assumed it was a website issue
[17:12] <dobey> the keyboard is probably also a separate process on android, and it's just a hard to debug/fix issue, which may be common across systems when the implementation is such that the keyboard is a separate process :)
[17:12] <bzoltan_> dobey: tell me more about that hungarian phrase book please :)
[17:13] <dobey> bzoltan_: lol
[17:13] <ted> popey, ogra_, so my suspicion is that this is the issue, but since I can't recreate it's going to be hard to prove. Can one of you try the deb when Jenkins builds it? https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-sound/deduplicate-with-reason/+merge/256698
[17:13] <dobey> bzoltan_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAQJHHf3i1o
[17:13] <ogra_> ted, if i'm still active when jenkins does that :)
[17:14] <ogra_> ted, but yeah, latest on the weekend at some point
[17:14] <Myself5> dobey, as you look like you can help me
[17:15] <dobey> i probably can't :)
[17:15] <ogra_> Myself5, i think thats an old photo though
[17:15] <Myself5> is patching the defconfig with "check-config <defconfig file> -w" enough?
[17:15] <Myself5> or do I need to apply some other patches to the kernel defconfig too
[17:16] <dobey> i have no idea if that will work in the context of the mtk build system, as 'make menuconfig' doesn't work there
[17:16] <Myself5> I'm doing a initial bringup for the Xperia Z2 and Z3 based off the Sony AOSP device trees
[17:16] <dobey> and i've not built a kernel for a phone, nor done a port, myself
[17:16] <Myself5> both Snapdragon 801 Devices ;)
[17:16] <ogra_> well, AOSP is definitely a bit more sane then an mtk tree :)
[17:17] <Myself5> why do I think I use a mtk device :D
[17:17] <ogra_> Myself5, the check-config script is from janimo, he is on vacation this week though ...
[17:18] <ogra_> probably one of the other porters in here can help you
[17:18] <dobey> Myself5: i didn't know if you were asking about the bq kernel or not, until you stated you were doing a port 3 comments later :)
[17:18] <Myself5> hehe sorry for that :D
[17:18] <bzoltan_> dobey: ohh man, you just saved the week of an innocent Hungarian enginer :D
[17:18] <Myself5> ogra_, any names of the other porters :P ? So I can tag them :D ?
[17:19] <ogra_> Myself5, well, mariogrip is one for example ... but i think he only started with the kernel side of things
[17:20] <Myself5> Made 246 fixes.
[17:20] <Myself5> lol
[17:20] <dobey> bzoltan_: haha
[17:26] <rsalveti> ted: but the volume set call wasn't storing the reason
[17:28] <rsalveti> ted: oh, it was saving everything
[17:28] <rsalveti> ted: indeed, my bad, will fix it
[17:29] <ted> rsalveti, I have a patch above that i think will work, but I'm not able to recreate the bug.
[17:29] <rsalveti> ted: who reproduced it, davmor2?
[17:30] <rsalveti> ted: guess that would happen if the multimedia volume is different than the alert one
[17:30] <ted> rsalveti, Hopefully Jenkins will have a deb soon: https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-sound/deduplicate-with-reason/+merge/256698
[17:30] <ted> rsalveti, ogra and popey
[17:30] <ted> rsalveti, Yeah, I tried that, that was my guess too.
[17:30] <ted> rsalveti, Trying to reproduced forced me to listen to German radio, I recommend being careful the questions you ask :-)
[17:32] <rsalveti> change looks good, guess we can just ask them to test the deb
[17:32] <Se7> /me exited updating now :))
[17:32] <Se7> lol
[17:35] <popey> ted: can you pm me on telegram as a test?
[17:37] <brunch875> Is it possible to launch a program from the terminal?
[17:37] <brunch875> I mean... something like the file explorer
[17:43] <Se7> still no data source available in the circle :(
[17:43] <Sleep_Walker> external keyboard works - neat
[17:44] <brunch875> external keyboard?
[17:44] <brunch875> you mean a bluetooth keyboard?
[17:44] <Sleep_Walker> nope, USB one
[17:44] <brunch875> :o !
[17:44] <Sleep_Walker> it is the cheap chinese for tablets
[17:45] <brunch875> I had no idea such things existed
[17:46] <Se7> can t share a pics on bluethoot?
[17:47] <dobey> Se7: obex is not yet supported really
[17:48] <rsalveti> obex itself is supported (that's how we chance contacts on a car), we just don't have client support yet in order to send files
[17:48] <rsalveti> *change
[17:48] <rsalveti> which will happen at some point
[17:53] <dobey> hmm, nobody makes a decent usb mini keyboard for the nexus 5 it seems :-/
[17:53] <popey> ted: can't reproduce that bug now!
[18:00] <Myself5> popey ! :D
[18:01] <Myself5> havnt seen you in a long time :D
[18:01] <popey> helo
[18:02] <Myself5> do you have an Idea why Ubuntu refuses to read a Android.mk in a subdirectory while the same setup works perfectly fine in OmniROM?
[18:03] * Myself5 still tries to port Ubuntu to the Z2 and Z3 :
[18:03] <Myself5> D
[18:03] <Sleep_Walker> Xperias?
[18:09] <Myself5> yes Sleep_Walker
[18:11] <davmor2> rsalveti, popey: I reporduced it \o/
[18:12] <rsalveti> ted: do you have the new deb in hands?
[18:12] <davmor2> rsalveti: I just set music to full volume and hit play
[18:19] <davmor2> rsalveti: easily reproduced on mvsm too
[18:19] <studio_> ehm, someone here is using the bq 4.5 with the latest update?
[18:20] <dobey> i'm sure many people are
[18:20] <studio_> if yes, how long does a reboot take?
[18:21] * popey times it
[18:21] <studio_> i am sure, it was shorter before the update
[18:21] <popey> 3.2.1.. pressed restart now
[18:22] <popey> booted
[18:22] <popey> so just over a minute
[18:23] <Sleep_Walker> ~52 seconds
[18:23] <studio_> popey, do you have a "flashing screen" on reboot?
[18:23] <popey> no
[18:23] <studio_> hmm ...
[18:24] <popey> i have lost zero % battery in 8 hours.
[18:24] <dobey> popey: lies
[18:24] <studio_> "bq screen" is flashing on my device
[18:25] <davmor2> popey: it's possibly a tiny % but I doubt it is 0
[18:25] <popey>
[18:25] <popey> #
[18:25] <popey> mmmmm mmm # mm
[18:25] <popey> # # # #" # #" #
[18:25] <popey> # # # #"""" # #
[18:25] <popey> # # # "#mm" # #
[18:25] <Sleep_Walker> popey: isn't it more probable that you stopped reading real values? ;b
[18:25] <popey>
[18:25] <popey>
[18:25] <popey> rounding error
[18:26] <grubproblems> could anyone help with grub issues? sorry i know it's not touch but i tried asking in the main channel and it's way too busy
[18:26] <grubproblems> also recently got to use touch, props to the team, lost the phone i had it on unfortunately but it was awesome
[18:27] <studio_> popey, what channel are you using on your bq?
[18:28] <davmor2> studio_: he was one of the first on 21
[18:28] <popey> the one it ships from the factory with
[18:28] <studio_> 21 is rtm right?
[18:29] <studio_> i am on vivid right now
[18:29] <popey> i have one phone on factory shipped channel and one on vivid
[18:30] <studio_> is your vivid phone "blinking" on restart?
[18:30] * popey tries
[18:30] <studio_> maybe 37 times
[18:31] <grubproblems> i wish i still had my bq -_-
[18:31] <popey> no, no blinking
[18:31] <davmor2> studio_: no blinking here either
[18:31] <studio_> yes 37 times. tht is not normal !
[18:33] <dobey> maybe you broke your phone
[18:34] * ted is back
[18:34] <studio_> no, i fashed from r21 to ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed
[18:34] <ted> Not sure why that deb isn't building... Jenkins...
[18:34] <studio_> maybe i should switch back?
[18:35] <popey> 21?
[18:35] <popey> why 21?
[18:35] <popey> that seems wrong.
[18:35] <dobey> becasue it's blackjack
[18:35] <popey> I'm on ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed 187
[18:35] <studio_> 21 was latest on ubuntu-touch/stable/bq-aquaris.en
[18:35] <popey> so 21 seems very old
[18:35] <popey> wait
[18:35] <davmor2> dobey: man now I want to eat black jacks
[18:35] <popey> you're not on ubuntu-touch/stable/bq-aquaris.en
[18:35] <popey> you're on ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed you said
[18:35] <davmor2> popey: rtm 21
[18:36] <popey> no...
[18:36] <popey> thats not what he said
[18:36] <davmor2> popey: that's what he meant not what he said
[18:36] <popey> lets see
[18:36] <studio_> is is same as ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09
[18:36] <popey> system-image-cli --info
[18:36] <popey> run that
[18:36] <popey> what does it say?
[18:36] <studio_> i am on the wrong channel?
[18:36] <dobey> popey: he was on rtm 21, then switch to devel-proposed
[18:36] <studio_> was
[18:37] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10840127/ is what I'm on
[18:38] <popey> studio_: what does yours say?
[18:38] <elopio> ping mvo: are you the maintainer of click? I'm getting this weird error, not sure what to do about it
[18:38] <elopio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10839516/
[18:39] <studio_> it is ubuntu-touch/vivid-proposed, but i am now on ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed
[18:39] <studio_> should i change?
[18:39] <dobey> devel-proposed is just an alias
[18:40] <popey> studio_: can you just please paste the output?
[18:40] <popey> channel: ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed
[18:40] <popey> alias: ubuntu-touch/vivid-proposed
[18:40] <popey> same things
[18:40] <studio_> output from "system-image-cli -i"?
[18:40] <popey> yes
[18:40] <studio_> here?
[18:41] <popey> a pastebin
[18:41] <studio_> wait
[18:42] <studio_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10840166/
[18:42] <popey> so we're on the same thing then
[18:43] <studio_> but a reboot is "flashing" the bq screen
[18:44] <popey> I wonder what firmware you have
[18:45] <davmor2> popey: remember that studio_ is on an android version not an ubuntu phone
[18:45] <popey> what does this command return...
[18:45] <popey> yes, I know
[18:45] <popey> cat /sys/devices/platform/mtk-tpd/chipinfo
[18:45] <studio_> i made "ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed"
[18:46] <studio_> ID:0x0 VER:0x40 IC:ft5336 VENDOR:ckt (dc)
[18:48] <dobey> well, the bq screen is the bootloader right? and that's entirely outside the scope of ubuntu itself no? ubuntu-device-flash doesn't replace the bootloader too
[18:48] <studio_> davmor2, please do not make users confused, bq E4.5 is allways the same
[18:48] <dobey> studio_: no, they aren't the same. you're the only one causing any confusion here.
[18:49] <studio_> dobey, E4.5 is e4.5
[18:49] <studio_> if you feel free, you can flash android on your dvice
[18:50] <dobey> no. e4.5 android and e4.5 ubuntu are not the same. they are close, but not the same
[18:50] <studio_> feel free
[18:51] <studio_> if you do not trust i'll pay you the 170 euro
[18:52] <davmor2> studio_: we work at canonical we are telling you they are different! just because you can install software from canonical or google on it doesn't make the hardware the same
[18:52] <dobey> ubuntu on the e4.5 ubuntu edition is supported by bq. installing ubuntu on the e4.5 android is an "at your own risk" regarding bq's support (as you've said so yourself several times)
[18:54] <studio_> davmor2, have you ever made an "real" backup from your flash?
[18:54] <dobey> if you do not trust, then go ask bq for support :)
[18:55] <davmor2> studio_: yes thanks
[18:55] <studio_> no, not thanks, have you?
[18:55] <davmor2> studio_: yes thanks
[18:56] <studio_> so, you know how to use the mtk-tools.
[18:56] <dobey> if you want to buy me a bq phone though, feel free. just have it shipped to the canonical office in UK
[18:56] <dobey> lol
[18:57] <davmor2> studio_: I do for what I need, but that's not how I backup
[18:59] <studio_> davmor2, for normal users it is very important how to make a complete backup. maybe for you it is just a joke, but "i" think it is important.
[19:00] * popey backs up his phone every 6 hours
[19:00] <davmor2> studio_: and when there is a proper backup solution it will be made public, but an unstable hack is not what you give out to people
[19:01] <studio_> to make a backup via mtk-tools is not an "unstable hack"
[19:01] <davmor2> studio_: did you not read but that's not how I backup
[19:02] <davmor2> studio_: mtk-tools is designed for the board and flashing images mostly it is not how you would backup android you would use some backup tool
[19:04] <studio_> davmor2, why you talk about backup "android"? it is to backup your whole flash.
[19:05] <dobey> why are you talking about mtk-tools at all?
[19:05] <studio_> dobey, because it is easy
[19:05] <dobey> it is irrelevant
[19:06] <dobey> nobody who purchased an e4.5 ubuntu edition needs to use them
[19:06] <davmor2> studio_: mtk-tools is not a backup tool. it is a factory tool for flashing and reflashing. You use a tool similar to platinum backup on android to backup you ubuntu data but that doesn't exist yet
[19:06] <dobey> the only reason you needed to use them is because you bought the android version of the phone early, to install ubuntu on, instead of waiting for the phone to be released
[19:08] <mvo> elopio: this looks like your working directory is somehow not accessible from schroot, is there is anything special about it?
[19:09] <elopio> mvo: not that I know of. But after doing this, my home directory is umounted.
[19:09] <elopio> something in the middle makes it not accessible.
[19:09] <mvo> elopio: oh, your entire homedir? is it on a ecryptfs?
[19:10] <elopio> mvo: it is not.
[19:10] <mvo> elopio: so its just a seperate mount point?
[19:11] <dobey> wow, that is crazy
[19:12] <elopio> mvo: yes.
[19:15] <studio_> dobey, you still do not or want to understand, i am on the latest ubuntu-touch channel for the bq e4.5, but there are still missing things to use ubuntu-touch for a normal, daily use ... if you show me your scatter.txt, that i can comfirm i am on a different version would be nice.ö
[19:17] <davmor2> studio_: we don't have scatter.txt we just flash the phone using the ubuntu-device-flash tool
[19:17] <dobey> well your phone is definitely different from mine. i have a nexus 5. and a nexus 4. but even if i had an e4.5 ubuntu edition, and the contents of some files were exactly the same, it does not mean there are not subtle differences in the hardware
[19:17] <studio_> dobey, and you re wrong, check youtube for backup mtk-tools
[19:18] <dobey> studio_: the one refusing to understand anything here, is you.
[19:20] <studio_> dobey, i am not your enemy, why you do not try to understand how mtk-tools are working?
[19:20] <dobey> i know how mtk-tools work. i wasn't arguing how they work. i was telling you to get to a bloody point already.
[19:22] <davmor2> studio_: mtk-tools is an image manipulation tool not a backup tool. Yes it can back up the entire image but that is not a backup tool, it's effectively dd. A backup tool only snapshot the data you care about not the base image.
[19:25] <studio_> davmor2, it is not a "manipulation tool" it made a backup or copy a new image direct to the flash and its partitions
[19:27] <dobey> oh ffs
[19:27] <davmor2> studio_: So it manipulate images like dd. I repeat it is not a backup tool! It it an imaging tool
[19:27] <dobey> studio_: stop arguing about the bloody mtk-tools
[19:28] <dobey> davmor2: you're not helping :)
[19:28] <studio_> dd is dump
[19:28] <davmor2> dobey: hahaha
[19:28] <brunch875> haha omg you guy
[19:28] <brunch875> +s
[19:28] <studio_> dd do not need a scatter-file
[19:28] <dobey> it doesn't bloody matter what mtk-tools is
[19:28] * brunch875 grabs some popcorn
[19:29] <dobey> the only thing it is in this channel, is irrelevant
[19:29] <dobey> it is not how you flash ubuntu onto a device
[19:29] <dobey> this isn't #mediatek
[19:31] <studio_> dobey, maybe it is not #mediatek, but it helps users on #ubuntu-touch
[19:31] <dobey> no, it does not
[19:31] <studio_> why not?
[19:31] <dobey> because it is a completley unnecessary tool for using ubuntu
[19:32] <studio_> this is your mind
[19:32] <brunch875> studio_ don't you like ubuntu-device-flash?
[19:32] <dobey> the only reason it would be relevant is if someone else was asking about how to go about flashing an android e4.5 with ubuntu
[19:32] <dobey> nobody is asking about that
[19:32] <dobey> you are going on and on about "backing up" your device with it.
[19:33] <dobey> just stop
[19:33] <studio_> brunch875, have you tried to flash other firmware with the mtk-tools on your device?
[19:33] <dobey> k1l: ^^ please? this is just getting silly
[19:33] <brunch875> Most I've ever "flashed" was dragging a .zip to an android and hitting "update" on clockworkmod
[19:34] <brunch875> not even ubuntu :p
[19:34] <dobey> studio_: no, nobody wants to flash other firmware on their ubuntu devices
[19:34] <studio_> dobey, come on ...
[19:34] <studio_> sure?
[19:34] <dobey> studio_: no, stop. if you have something to talk about, then talk about something on topic, and stop going on and on about mtk-tools
[19:35] <dobey> i'm sure if anybody cares to do so, they will ask a relevant question about how to do it
[19:35] <dobey> and that question should probably be asked in a relevant android forum or to bq support perhaps, because it is not a necessary thing to use mtk-tools with ubuntu
[19:35] <studio_> it is this channel, when other users asked, what happend, when they flash back to android?
[19:36] <dobey> nobody flashed back to android because the ubuntu phone doesn't come with android, so you can't flash back to android
[19:37] <dobey> how to install android on a phone is not the topic of this channel
[19:38] <studio_> dobey, open your mind: http://www.bq.com/gb/downloads-aquaris-e4-5.html
[19:39] <brunch875> studio_ , you should try seeking help around the android channels
[19:40] <brunch875> you can pretty much treat the e4.5 ubuntu edition as the e4.5 android edition, right?
[19:40] <dobey> studio_: if you want help with android, find an android channel. this isn't an android channel.
[19:40] <studio_> brunch875, i am allways changing between UT and Android!
[19:42] <dobey> oh; popey and ogra have chanop permissions, and mhall119 too. can one of you do something about this please?
[19:42] <popey> feel free not to engage
[19:44] <studio_> dobey, i try to help with UT, maybe you do not see :(
[19:46] <mhall119> studio_: we are not Android experts in here, we can help you install Ubuntu or use Ubuntu on your device, but we can't do the same for Android
[19:46] <mhall119> If you need help installing or running Android, then as dobey says you will be able to find that on an Android related channel or forum
[19:49] <studio_> mhall119, i have the feeling i am talking to a wall :( Sure i can flash back to android but missing things here in the forum are pure ignored ...
[19:50] <brunch875> studio_: don't be too hard on yourself... it's not as hostile as it seems
[19:51] <studio_> "hostile" is a nice keyword ...
[19:51] <mhall119> studio_: you're just asking the wrong people, we're Ubuntu folks, not Android folks, Ubuntu is what we know and what we support.
[19:52] <dobey> brunch875: he's the hostile one
[19:52] <mhall119> alright, let's not escalate things
[19:52] <studio_> dobey, you are wrong !
[19:52] <mhall119> this is simply not the best place to get the answers you're looking for, that's all
[19:52] <brunch875> I'm sure this is all just friction
[19:53] <mhall119> studio_: I'm sorry we can't help you with this task
[19:54] <dobey> brunch875: brake pads get hot and wear down after having the same friction constantly repeated over and over again
[19:54] <studio_> dobey, i do not know how to translate " Hochmut kommt vor dem Fall", but you are nearby ...
[19:55] <mhall119> ok, no more friction, what's done is done, let's leave it at that
[19:56] <mhall119> studio_: if you have questions or need help with Ubuntu, you're welcome to come back here to ask them, otherwise I wish you the best of luck with Android
[19:57] <studio_> mhall119, my questions are always about ut and not android.
[19:58] <mhall119> studio_: what was the question then?
[19:59] <studio_> mhall119, repetitions are not liked here ...
[20:00] <brunch875> it's cool, ask away
[20:00] <brunch875> I missed the question anyway
[20:00] <mhall119> studio_: PM me then
[20:01] * brunch875 is off to dinner!
[20:03] <dobey> repeating a question after a meaningful amount of time, which has not actually been answered, is fine. what is not appreciated is asking the same thing over and over, particularly after it's been answered multiple times already.
[20:08] <studio_> dobey, i understood, you do not have a solution ...
[20:11] <Sleep_Walker> what is the root password on aquaris e4.5?
[20:11] <Sleep_Walker> is there some ssh server available?
[20:11] <Sleep_Walker> is there some synergy-like application?
[20:11] <Dragonkeeper> pin code
[20:12] <cwayne> Sleep_Walker, it's whatever you set as your pincode
[20:12] <cwayne> or passphrase
[20:12] <Sleep_Walker> hm, I don't use pincode :(
[20:12] <Dragonkeeper> make 1
[20:12] <cwayne> then you cant get adb access anyway
[20:13] <Sleep_Walker> you have some special PAM module for that? :)
[20:16] <Dragonkeeper> adb is debug console over usb
[20:16] <Sleep_Walker> I know adb from android
[20:16] <Dragonkeeper> its the same thing
[20:17] * Dragonkeeper has his gps finally working xD
[20:17] <Sleep_Walker> ah
[20:18] <Sleep_Walker> I have no SIM plugged yet
[20:18] <Sleep_Walker> I can't have PIN anyway
[20:18] <dobey> Sleep_Walker: we have to still use adb for developer mode
[20:18] <dobey> Sleep_Walker: not a SIM PIN. you need the unlock screen PIN/pasword
[20:18] <dobey> Sleep_Walker: that is the password you use for sudo
[20:18] <Sleep_Walker> I see!
[20:18] <dobey> though, why do you need root anyway?
[20:19] <Sleep_Walker> to explore internals of course! >:)
[20:19] <dobey> you shouldn't make the system writable and install packages, as it can break things pretty fast if you do.
[20:19] <Sleep_Walker> I'd like to install static dropbear
[20:20] <dobey> if you enable developer mode, you can connect to the phone using ssh over usb with "phablet-shell" command on ubuntu
[20:20] <Sleep_Walker> is there some recovery mode?
[20:20] <genii> Hm
[20:20] <Dragonkeeper> sudo make me-a-sandwich
[20:21] * Dragonkeeper cant get his sandwich out of the dvd drive
[20:21] <brunch875> Ooooh so THAT was the use for dvd drives
[20:23] <Dragonkeeper> brunch875: yes , that and symlinking "cupholder" to the "eject" command
[20:25] <brunch875> by the way, cheers on OTA3. By now my phone would have no battery left but it stays at 63%
[20:26] * Dragonkeeper didnt wipe, just changed over channel to devel on bq phone, now he has a duplicate icon of here maps ;/
[20:29] <Dragonkeeper> is there a project ongoing for actual navigation , not just the directions ?
[20:30] <Sleep_Walker> https://youtu.be/_BRv9wGf5pk >:D
[20:31] <Sleep_Walker> (IOW thanks :)
[20:33] <Sleep_Walker> omg, it's using systemd
[20:33] <dobey> Dragonkeeper: it requires background processing, or i'm sure it would have been done already.
[20:33] <Dragonkeeper> dobey: how so ?
[20:34] <dobey> Sleep_Walker: the phone isn't really yet, there are just a few systemd things installed, but upstart is still used there.
[20:34] <dobey> Dragonkeeper: well, apps can't process while they are in the background or the screen is off, so it wouldn't be possible for them to give you turn by turn announcements currently
[20:35] <dobey> well, unless you changed the settings to never turn the screen off, and ensured that app was in the foreground
[20:36] <Dragonkeeper> dobey: yeah i understand that , i assumed people kept the screen always on anyway as turn by turn is abit longwinded with useless information
[20:38] <dobey> the tbt in my truck isn't that bad usually. the maps in it are a bit dated though, and i don't generally use tbt unless i really need to
[20:38] <Sleep_Walker> ah, too bad, terminal application doesn't seem to take USB keyboard input :(
[20:38] <Dragonkeeper> Sleep_Walker: yes it does
[20:39] <dobey> Sleep_Walker: it should, but otg is not really fully supported yet, so some keyboards might just not work i guess
[20:39] <Sleep_Walker> strange
[20:39] <Dragonkeeper> there should be extra information on the updates list so i know what the update is for , instead of it just saying ubuntu
[20:40] <Dragonkeeper> Sleep_Walker: also some might require extra power added
[20:41] <Sleep_Walker> either I have bad contact or it is working randomly, sorry for the noise
[20:41] <Sleep_Walker> I'm just too excited with new toy :)
[20:42] <Dragonkeeper> Sleep_Walker: ikr, i love the bq phone :P
[20:43] <Sleep_Walker> hm, ssh is running, but I need to upload my pubkey first...
[20:43] <Sleep_Walker> it's really ready for use
[20:45] <Dragonkeeper> Sleep_Walker: u can use the ubuntu sdk to set that up automaticly
[20:47] <dobey> Dragonkeeper: there's no ssh over network by default, only over usb
[20:48] <Sleep_Walker> dobey: but editing sshd_config should be sufficient to change it, right?
[20:49] <Dragonkeeper> dobey: ah right , didnt know that , i just use adb or the terminal on device
[20:50] <dobey> Sleep_Walker: i guess, if you really want to open a hole on your phone for people to attack :)
[20:51] <Sleep_Walker> dobey: I have opened hole in every my device clever enough to run secure shell server
[20:51] <Sleep_Walker> it doesn't seem to be different case from that, does it?
[20:51] <dobey> different code from what?
[20:52] <dobey> oh, case
[20:52] <dobey> man i guess i am getting tired already
[20:52] <dobey> well, are all those devices publicly exposed on a 3g network?
[20:54] <Dragonkeeper> dobey: well they will all have ips but dont think you can scan the network like your can with a wireless lan
[20:54] <dobey> sure you can
[20:55] <Sleep_Walker> I think the answer doesn't matter - they are attached to Internet (mostly with public IP addresses)
[20:57] <Dragonkeeper> sure but in that case its same as having router with open ssh port to your ubuntu machine
[20:57] <Sleep_Walker> yes
[20:57] <Dragonkeeper> so use a decent passphrase instead of a pin
[20:59] <Sleep_Walker> I'm using pubkey authetication
[20:59] <dobey> why would you een enable password auth for ssh?
[21:01] <Dragonkeeper> i use password auth on some machines, as i access them alot from random spots/devices dobey but i wouldnt use ssh server on a phone
[21:45] <Robin_> www.UbuntuFun.de - der deutsche Ubuntu Blog
[22:10] <nothingspecial> studio_: how did you fix the issue ?
[22:10] <nothingspecial> studio_: Power and VOL down?
[22:16] <brunch875> which issue?
[22:17] <nothingspecial> that I can't get out of a boot loop on my bq brunch875
[22:17] <brunch875> oooh yeah...
[22:17] <brunch875> I read you earlier this morning
[22:17] <nothingspecial> yeah
[22:18] <nothingspecial> brunch875: studio_ said something 9 hours ago, I'm hoping s/he has a highlight log
[22:19] <Robin_> Der deutsche Ubuntu Blog. Alles zu deinem Ubuntu Desktop & Ubuntu Phone - www.UbuntuFun.de
[22:27] <studio__> nothingspecial, sorry. i re-flashed my device with the mtk-tools
[22:29] <studio__> nothingspecial, how many times did you get the "flashing screen"?
[22:39] <studio__> how do i "erase" on the app-scope missing apps from the version in installed before?
[22:41] <studio__> app-scope try to show apps which are not installed anymore ...
[22:41] <cwayne> studio__, pull down to refresh
[22:41] <studio__> not working, tried that
[22:42] <studio__> cwayne, another solution?
[22:43] <cwayne> studio__, i don't know of any, sorry
[22:43] <studio__> ok
[22:56] <studio__> hmm, that makes no fun. after installing ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed my bq is flasing 37 times to boot into normal mode :(
[23:11] <studio__> last chance "ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/rc/bq-aquaris.en"
[23:12] <studio__> if that is also not working i am going back to android
[23:24] <studio__> ok, r22 is working after a reboot on the bq e4.5, so the problem is the ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed !!!
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-mir
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"authors": [
"alan_g",
"alf__",
"duflu"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-mir",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:19",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-mir.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
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[13:53] <alan_g> alf__: bug 1445473 is worrying. Are you working on it?
[13:57] <alf__> alan_g: Not yet. I just tried removing the transitive dependencies, but got various errors.
[14:23] <duflu> alf__: You might want to change pm-fail to pm (which is what I've already used in Mir bugs)
[14:25] <alf__> duflu: tvoss asked for this tag to mark bugs that with a proper architecture shouldn't be filed against USC but rather powerd or similar
[14:25] <alf__> duflu: (there was a discussion about reworking the power management architecture)
[14:30] <alf__> duflu: (repeating in case you missed them)
[14:30] <alf__> duflu: tvoss asked for this tag to mark bugs that with a proper architecture shouldn't be filed against USC but rather powerd or similar
[14:30] <duflu> alf__: Yep OK. I added "pm" for general power management bugs
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.364236
| 2015-04-17T00:00:00
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-release
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"authors": [
"Laney",
"Odd_Bloke",
"RAOF",
"infinity",
"jamespage",
"mdeslaur",
"smoser",
"stgraber",
"tjaalton"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-release",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:20",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-release.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
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[01:50] <mdeslaur> infinity: ok, new mysql, no big changes this time
[05:03] <tjaalton> RAOF: if you're available I've got another -intel patch to get in pronto.. :)
[05:04] <RAOF> tjaalton: Shoot.
[05:04] <tjaalton> oh good, I'll build it first just in case, but it's bug 1445221
[05:06] <tjaalton> there's also xtrans and libdrm for trusty in the queue, needed for the lts-vivid stack
[05:06] <tjaalton> those are backports as before
[05:06] <tjaalton> yeah -intel is fine, uploading
[05:17] <tjaalton> RAOF: ^ in case you missed all that
[05:17] <RAOF> tjaalton: I got it.
[05:18] <RAOF> tjaalton: Would you kindly reupload with the previous SRU's changlog in the source?
[05:18] <tjaalton> ok :)
[05:18] <tjaalton> in 1.6
[05:18] <tjaalton> ?
[05:18] <tjaalton> or changes
[05:18] <RAOF> Bah, I meant changes of course.
[05:18] <RAOF> :)
[05:18] <tjaalton> sure thing
[05:19] <RAOF> Because we need all the bugs to appear on pending-sru :)
[05:19] <tjaalton> right, was wondering about that
[05:19] <tjaalton> so this was the usecase
[05:20] <tjaalton> uploaded
[05:20] <RAOF> And now waiting for LP to catch up.
[05:21] <RAOF> Yeah, you need all the changes in -proposed to be in the .changes file, for two reasons: (1) So that we display an appropriate changelog in the software updater, and (2) so that all the SRU bugs get tracked
[05:22] <tjaalton> makes sense
[05:28] <RAOF> It occurs to me that I've been lax in reviewing your bug descriptions :)
[05:29] <RAOF> tjaalton: Also, that seems to disable vsync on VallyView, too?
[05:31] <RAOF> Although now that I look at the code more a bit more, it's replacing a return false with an extra stack frame, a couple of variable assignments, and a return false. So OK I guess.
[05:53] <tjaalton> RAOF: yeah, thanks again
[10:52] <Odd_Bloke> ianorlin: Further to what I mentioned yesterday, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-on-ec2/vmbuilder/mfdiff is the version that we use to produce the diffs on cloud-images.ubuntu.com.
[11:13] <jamespage> -queuebot/#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: neutron-fwaas (vivid-proposed/main) [2015.1~b3-0ubuntu1 => 2015.1~rc1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[11:14] <jamespage> that makes no sense - its in main
[11:15] <Laney> which bit?
[11:24] <jamespage> Laney, its in main, but is in no packageset
[11:24] <jamespage> that went through on auto right?
[16:06] <Laney> jamespage: It's not automated; I just ran the script and now it's in ubuntu-server
[16:06] <Laney> sorry for the delay - embarked on an epic yak shave before I actually ran it... :)
[16:08] <Laney> (I do want to get this automated in the near future)
[16:13] <jamespage> Laney, ah - ok - thankis!
[18:57] <smoser> anyone able to take a look at my cloud-init upload ?
[18:58] <smoser> wow, thank you queuebot
[19:11] <infinity> smoser: It was me, not queuebot. :P
[19:11] <smoser> well, i'm not thanking you, infinity
[19:11] <smoser> :-)~
[19:12] <infinity> smoser: </3
[19:12] * smoser is impressed with infinities emoticon knowledge.
[19:43] <stgraber> hmm, why do we have langpacks in NEW? previously removed ones?
[19:51] <infinity> stgraber: langpacks get new bits all the time.
[19:52] <stgraber> infinity: well, those are new sources with a diff, so that's what seemed a bit odd
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-motu
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"authors": [
"Logan",
"Rhonda",
"micahg",
"sbeattie"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-motu",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:21",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-motu.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
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[17:51] <Rhonda> No codename for w release yet?
[20:31] <Logan> Rhonda: nope, it'll be announced at http://markshuttleworth.com/
[20:34] <Rhonda> Anyone around who could help me with what's needed for SRU + backport uploads for wesnoth, what version schema is state-of-the-art, whom I need to bother about them getting accepted? It's about a CVE/security issue.
[20:37] <micahg> Rhonda: for security, provide debdiffs and mark as security (public or private as appropriate), for backports, just request a new backport from whichever release it gets accepted from, #ubuntu-hardened can help with the security uploads
[20:38] <Rhonda> version schema suggestion? :)
[20:39] <sbeattie> what micahg said, though once you've provided debdiffs, also subscribe the ubuntu-security-sponsors team.
[20:39] <micahg> Rhonda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation#Update_the_packaging
[20:39] <micahg> sbeattie: thanks, forgot that we had that :)
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| 2015-04-17T00:00:00
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2015-04-17-#lubuntu
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"authors": [
"Azlux",
"genii",
"ianorlin",
"kj4",
"leszek",
"mr_rm",
"nonyab",
"position",
"saabi",
"saabi-desktop",
"saabi2",
"whytrytofly1",
"wxl"
],
"channel": "#lubuntu",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:22",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23lubuntu.txt"
}
|
ubuntu-chat
|
[09:45] <Azlux> hi all, i have a problem. lxde don't want to start. so i'm on openbox since i have delete pcmanfm. I've trying to reinstall it, but still not working
[09:46] <Azlux> i suppose some setting are broken but i don't know with one
[09:47] <Azlux> idea ?
[09:48] <Azlux> i think some problem with the default program manager but i don't know what to do
[09:49] <leszek> Try to look for an error mesage in .xsession-errors
[09:50] <leszek> and yes pcmanfm is needed for lxde for drawing the desktop background
[09:50] <leszek> + icons
[09:51] <Azlux> this kind of error ?
[09:51] <Azlux> (openbox:1511): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 11 was not found when attempting to remove it
[09:52] <leszek> but openbox is working fine ?
[09:53] <Azlux> openbox yes
[09:53] <Azlux> but no lxde anymore
[09:53] <Azlux> (openbox:1511): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 11 was not found when attempting to remove it
[09:53] <leszek> yeah then this is just a warning I guess
[09:53] <leszek> pcmanfm installed ?
[09:53] <leszek> lxpanel installed ?
[09:53] <Azlux> yes and yes
[09:53] <leszek> lubuntu-desktop or lxde metapackages installed ? Maybe reinstalling them is a viable option if you removed some of lxdes components
[09:54] <Azlux> may be
[09:55] <Azlux> some dependences missing for lubuntu-desktop
[09:55] <Azlux> weird
[09:56] <Azlux> i reboot
[09:59] <Azlux> so i suppose it was that. depencies missing
[10:00] <Azlux> not it's working even if "Desktop setting" don't want to open itself
[10:00] <Azlux> than you leszek
[10:01] <Azlux> because desktop manager is not active ... O.O
[10:12] <Azlux> so with "pcmanfm --desktop-pref" --> Desktop manager is not running
[10:13] <leszek> pcmanfm --desktop ?
[10:14] <Azlux> yes to run the preference window
[10:15] <Azlux> but i have the same with pcmanfm --set-wallpaper
[10:16] <leszek> so no desktop basically ?
[10:17] <leszek> can you try to remove the config file of pcmanfm in ~/.config to see if it helps
[10:17] <Azlux> i have a desktop
[10:17] <Azlux> it's the desktop manager
[10:18] <Azlux> what do you have for the desktop_manager/command in the file .config/lxsession/Lubuntu/desktop.conf ?
[10:19] <Azlux> but yes i think it's the config
[10:23] <Azlux> yes it's that : the parameter of Desktop manager is linked to nautilus and not pcmanfm
[10:23] <leszek> ah
[10:23] <leszek> remove nautilus or set the mimetype to use pcmanfm that should work
[10:24] <Azlux> yes
[10:24] <Azlux> i will do that
[10:24] <Azlux> thank you
[10:24] <Azlux> need to lunch
[10:25] <Azlux> and thank you again
[12:18] <whytrytofly1> doesanyone know how to set the default browser for opening hyperlinks
[12:19] <whytrytofly1> sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser didnt set it!
[12:20] <kj4> hello, I have an issue where whatever workspace contains a terminal window 'steals' any ctrl-alt-arrow request to switch workspace, is there a fix for this?
[12:22] <whytrytofly1> change one of the binds?
[12:22] <whytrytofly1> terminal or windowmanager
[12:22] <kj4> well, it might be the window manager, because it doesn't seem to matter which terminal app I'm using
[12:27] <kj4> whytrytofly1: obkey did it, thanks!!
[12:27] <whytrytofly1> kj4: nice...thanks though i didnt do a lot
[12:27] <whytrytofly1> welcomne
[12:28] <kj4> sometimes a steering in the right direction is all it takes
[12:28] <kj4> it was driving me nuts, I use that all the time, and just switched to this distro
[12:30] <whytrytofly1> kj4: nice so!!!
[13:07] <nonyab> Well Kamilion i am back made no progress with trying to get all my settings to a Flash dive to use as a portable system
[13:09] <nonyab> kamilion are you here today
[15:24] <nonyab> Hello if I install say a linux distro to a flash drive and cat /dev/sdb >/dev/sdc from same distro that is on hard drive with all my settings will the one on flash drive work like my desktop
[15:25] <nonyab> so i can use on any computer
[15:26] <genii> The short answer is No
[15:32] <nonyab> i do not feel like taking the time to reinstall every thing i have already been using the desk top so long and am comfortable with it But i want take it where every i go.
[15:33] <nonyab> oh well case serua serua
[17:11] <saabi> Hello, I need help with an issue I'm having during installation.
[17:11] <saabi> Can anybody help_
[17:11] <saabi> ?
[17:11] <wxl> !ask | saabi
[17:12] <saabi> Alright... The problem is I simply can't launch the installer.
[17:12] <saabi> I ran it from the command line and it dumps the core
[17:12] <wxl> saabi: did you check the md5 of the iso?
[17:12] <saabi> The system boots up fine from usb
[17:13] <saabi> it's the actual install command that fails:
[17:13] <saabi> lubuntu@lubuntu:~$ sh -c 'ubiquity gtk_ui' Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: can't initialize sys standard streams Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.4/io.py", line 52, in <module> File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 2237, in _find_and_load File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 2226, in _find_and_load_unlocked File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1200, in _load_unlocked File "<frozen
[17:13] <wxl> saabi: check the md5.
[17:13] <saabi> alright
[17:19] <saabi> wxl: thanks, md5 failed...
[17:19] <wxl> saabi: always first thing to check :)
[17:20] <saabi> I'll download again. I used the torrent for download however with uTorrent, which I believe has some error checking
[17:20] <saabi> Perhaps the Windows install has a virus...
[17:20] <wxl> !zsync | saabi, a better alternative to torrenting is
[17:20] <wxl> windows? virus? naaaaaw
[17:21] <saabi> heh :)
[17:21] <saabi> zsync looks nice!
[17:22] <wxl> saabi: that's what the QA team uses
[17:26] <saabi> perhaps somebody knows the url to lubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync ?
[17:26] <wxl> saabi: you can just navigate cdimage.ubuntu.com
[17:26] <saabi> alright, sounds good
[17:27] <wxl> saabi: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.10/release/lubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[17:27] <wxl> saabi: they always follow the same format, so keep that in mind
[17:27] <wxl> saabi: also fun trick: if you change the name of your downloaded iso to the name of the iso you want to download (say, 15.04 when it comes out next week), and then zsync the new url, it will save you major time
[17:27] <saabi> While we're at it, right now I'm installing lubuntu on my laptop, but I'm thinking of replacing ubuntu on my desktop as well since the performance on the laptop is so much better. Is there a conventional upgrade path?
[17:28] <saabi> nice...
[17:28] <wxl> saabi: kind of, yeah. install the lubuntu-desktop package and then remove all the extra cruft
[17:28] <saabi> cool
[17:28] <wxl> !purelxde | saabi
[17:29] <saabi> wxl: Thanks again!
[17:29] <wxl> saabi: np. let us know if you need anything else and if you want to help contribute to the project, there's always room for more XD
[17:29] <saabi> ubottu: You're a very helpful bot.
[17:29] <wxl> hahah it's so modest
[17:29] <saabi> It shows :)
[17:31] <saabi> wxl: If I have a chance I'd love to help out. Let's see how time allows me too..
[17:31] <wxl> saabi: ping me if you want to discuss different ways you can help out. one way that's super easy is hang out here and try to answer questions for people. just listening you learn a lot!
[17:32] <saabi> wxl: I probably will hang out here just because it's so responsive :)
[17:32] <wxl> saabi: we usually are. we've got good coverage across different time zones.
[17:34] <wxl> saabi: do you already have a launchpad account?
[17:35] <saabi> wxl: I believe I set one up, though I haven't used it so far.
[17:36] <saabi> wxl: Alright, I blundered. I compared the md5 of the ubuntu 14.10 iso image to my lubuntu 14.10 iso image
[17:36] <wxl> saabi: it's good for reporting bugs *hint* *hint* :) it's also good for signing into the wiki if you have additions/changes
[17:36] <wxl> oooooooooops :)
[17:36] <saabi> wxl: After zsync I noticed it didn't download anything because the checksums mathced
[17:36] <wxl> ah interesting
[17:37] <saabi> So the md5 is not the problem
[17:37] <wxl> now i'm baffled
[17:37] <wxl> oh
[17:37] <wxl> well
[17:37] <wxl> the md5 of the media itself may not match
[17:37] <wxl> there can be a problem in both the download and the image creation
[17:38] <saabi> Could be, I transferred the iso using Universal USB Installer in windows, I'll do it again from lubuntu
[17:39] <saabi> Ah, silly me I can't, the USB stick is being used :)
[17:40] <saabi> Alright, I'll do it from my desktop ubuntu
[17:40] <saabi> Just gotta get up from the couch and head over to my office next door... :P
[18:08] <saabi-desktop> wxl: Preparing the USB stick with reserved extra space shouldn't be a problem I'm guessing. Right?
[18:29] <saabi> wxl: Using Startup Disk Creator worked. Apparently Universal USB Installer running on Windows screws something up.
[18:29] <wxl> saabi: yeah i've noticed different result from different tools, even within ubuntu
[18:37] <ianorlin> /usr/share/icons/Lubuntu/devices/16 might work from those existing
[18:37] <ianorlin> oops meant for -offtopic
[18:44] <saabi2> Alright, finally running from my laptop installation :)
[21:39] <mr_rm> i'm running lubuntu 14.10 on virtualbox 4.3.26 r98988. i have "auto resize" and the latest guest additions installed. the panel bar seems to not redraw very well after resizing the vm window. sometimes when i make it smaller, the panel doesn't come back at all unless something repaints on the desktop. is this a known bug?
[21:41] <ianorlin> mr_rm: maybe try to save the xrandr output you want for the vm when you login in autoresize
[22:33] <position> hi, when I try to install from lubuntu-software-center it says that I have no priviledges to install
[22:33] <position> because I am not su
[22:34] <ianorlin> position: which version?
[22:34] <position> 15.04
[22:35] <ianorlin> known serious bug but there is a workaround if you see on the testing tracker
[22:36] <position> what else should I install together with docky to configure docky?
[22:38] <position> I think it needs something else
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"authors": [
"RAOF",
"noob_rpi"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-kernel",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:23",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-kernel.txt"
}
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[04:45] <noob_rpi> Hi, I am trying to cross compile a kernel for raspberry pi 2. The deb-pkg build generates an armel.deb instead of armhf.deb. How do I generate the armhf deb?
[05:22] <RAOF> noob_rpi: Build with the armhf cross compiler, rather than the armel one?
[05:36] <noob_rpi> RAOF, using that... still generating the el deb
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"authors": [
"BluesKaj",
"Etriaph",
"MonkeyDust",
"MoonUnit`",
"aschildbach",
"chrisfromgreece",
"chrisfromgreece_",
"elfy",
"furkan",
"genii",
"haruto",
"k1l",
"lordievader",
"psusi",
"wxl"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu+1",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:24",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu%2B1.txt"
}
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[08:31] <aschildbach> Hi everyone!
[08:32] <aschildbach> I just upgraded from Utopic to Vivid RC and I cannot change my keyboard layout anymore.
[08:32] <aschildbach> The setting dialog has an empty Input Sources list and just ignores everything I try to do.
[08:33] <aschildbach> Is that perhaps a known issue?
[08:38] <aschildbach> FWIW, there also is no language indicator any more in the notification tray in the upper right corner of the screen, dispite the "Show current input source in the menu bar" being checked.
[08:55] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:54] <aschildbach> Anyone out here?
[10:01] <aschildbach> dpkg-reconfigure --all is gone, whats the replacement?
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> aschildbach i have 15.04 in vmware, moment, i'll try
[10:01] <aschildbach> ah you are (-:
[10:02] <lordievader> dpkg-reconfigure is gone??
[10:02] <aschildbach> lordievader: the --all option
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> aschildbach keep in mind, 15.04 isnt ready yet
[10:03] <lordievader> Are you referring to dpgk --configure -a?
[10:03] <lordievader> dpkg*
[10:03] <aschildbach> MonkeyDust: sure. But too late for me, I assumed the RC might be stable enough )-:
[10:04] <aschildbach> lordievader: no, the command is called dpkg-reconfigure
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> lordievader to this http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/dpkg-reconfigure.8.html
[10:04] <lordievader> Yes, I know. But dpkg --configure -a configures all installed packages.
[10:04] <aschildbach> lordievader: True, but it does not REconfigure them
[10:04] <aschildbach> That used to work only with dpkg-REconfigure
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> slow vmware
[10:05] <lordievader> Hmm, I suppose you're right.
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> aschildbach yes, you're right, it's no longer there
[10:07] <aschildbach> Does anyone know how to best report issues with release-upgrades? I upgraded today from a well working Utopic to Vivid and now have all sorts of problems with configuration.
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> aschildbach on a production machine?
[10:08] <aschildbach> MonkeyDust: Well its my Notebook, yes.
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> aschildbach that wasnt wise, 15.04 not stable
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> is*
[10:09] <aschildbach> MonkeyDust: are there known issues? Or is it just because it is not released?
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> aschildbach not sure, or even if you can report it as a bug
[10:10] <aschildbach> I mean Im not blaming anyone, I just want to help fixing those issues.
[10:11] <aschildbach> But apparently vivid has changed lots of things, judging by the amount of stuff thats broken for me now )-:
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> that's why I stick to LTS releases
[10:12] <aschildbach> If everyone sticks to LTS then no progress will happen ever (-:
[10:12] <lordievader> Upstart -> systemd ;)
[10:13] <aschildbach> But sure for my really important machines I stick to LTS as well.
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> apt-upgrade'ing 15.04 now
[11:13] <aschildbach> MonkeyDust: does it work for you?
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> aschildbach doew what work?
[11:25] <aschildbach> 15.04
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> it's runnig yes, what do you mean by "work"?
[11:28] <aschildbach> You said you were upgrading to 15.04, I just wanted to know if the upgrade works for you.
[11:29] <aschildbach> ...If there are any problems...
[11:30] <k1l> aschildbach: that depends on the hardware and packages used. but the base system gets automatic testing so in general: it works
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> aschildbach no problems here, all ok
[11:31] <aschildbach> MonkeyDust: thanks, good to hear
[11:32] <aschildbach> k1l: Indeed I have some problems after upgrading to vivid. Do you know how to report best?
[11:32] <k1l> give details
[11:33] <k1l> and see if there is already a bug report for it. if so: mark yourself affected and try to contribute if you know a solution or the cause of the issue or can provide logs etc. if there is no bug, make open one :)
[11:35] <aschildbach> k1l: My German keyboard layout was replaced by US. And now I cannot switch back using Control Center.
[11:35] <aschildbach> I go to Text Entry and the list of Input Sources is empty.
[11:35] <aschildbach> I cannot add any entries (it lets me select but the list stays empty).
[11:36] <aschildbach> I cannot switch any other setting. It very briefly acks my click but immediately switches back.
[11:37] <aschildbach> I have a very similar problem with the left menu. My previous config was erased, for example all the OpenOffice icons appeared although I had them removed for years.
[11:37] <aschildbach> When I try to unlock such an item the item disappears as expected, but re-appears shortly after.
[11:37] <aschildbach> I cannot lock new items.
[11:38] <aschildbach> The upgrade itself went cleanly.
[11:54] <k1l> aschildbach: i dont have the same issues on unity
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> i'm using mate in 15.04, really neat...
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:54] <elfy> hi BluesKaj
[12:55] <BluesKaj> hi elfy
[12:58] <MoonUnit`> afternoon
[12:59] <MoonUnit`> might reinstall today so i get logout/shutdown working right.
[13:01] <BluesKaj> MoonUnit`, I have it working here now, after the upgrades yesterday
[13:02] <MoonUnit`> still broken for me, reintalled on a spare drive and it works fine.
[13:02] <MoonUnit`> these weeks of upgrades may have broken something.
[13:14] <BluesKaj> which beta is your install ?
[13:20] <MoonUnit`> beta1 i think
[13:57] <BluesKaj> MoonUnit`, upgrade to the beta2, then with the upgrades your shutdown problem should be fixed
[16:39] <haruto> hi
[16:40] <haruto> How install gnome 3.16 theme in ubuntu 15.04 beta
[17:01] <MoonUnit`> BluesKaj: must be something i'm installling/doing, logout, shutdown and reboot broken again.
[17:02] <MoonUnit`> might try commenting out the samba share in fstab and see what happens
[17:11] <BluesKaj> MoonUnit`, I use the "Network Folder " in dolphin networking rather than samba, even for windows shares
[17:13] <BluesKaj> thus no reuirement for a fstab entry
[17:16] <MoonUnit`> my problem with that i don't seem to able to stream media that way
[17:19] <BluesKaj> MoonUnit`, how do you stream media with samba ?
[17:20] <MoonUnit`> perhaps stream is the wrong word, i mean open the same way as any local file.
[17:21] <MoonUnit`> clicking the a mkv via smb: in dolphin the file wont play
[17:21] <MoonUnit`> it will if i mount the share in fstab
[19:32] <chrisfromgreece> help !! No sound on ubuntu 15.04 only virtual output !!! help i want to keep this installation if possible
[19:33] <chrisfromgreece> help !! No sound on ubuntu 15.04 only virtual output !!! help i want to keep this installation if possible
[19:36] <chrisfromgreece> help !! No sound on ubuntu 15.04 only virtual output !!! help i want to keep this installation if possible
[19:36] <chrisfromgreece> help !! No sound on ubuntu 15.04 only virtual output !!! help i want to keep this installation if possible
[19:38] <wxl> !patience | chrisfromgreece
[19:39] <chrisfromgreece> help !! No sound on ubuntu 15.04 only virtual output !!! help i want to keep this installation if possible
[19:39] <BluesKaj> chrisfromgreece, which audio chip?
[19:40] <BluesKaj> chrisfromgreece, and are you using a VM?
[19:41] <chrisfromgreece> hda intel
[19:41] <chrisfromgreece> no vm
[19:43] <BluesKaj> chrisfromgreece, ok , try sudo modprobe.d snd-hda-intel, if the driver loads properly there will be not output from that command , then you need to reboot
[19:43] <chrisfromgreece> im currently doing the soundtroubleshooting from helpubuntu and hope it works
[19:45] <chrisfromgreece> sudo: modprobe.d: command not found
[19:46] <furkan> it should be just modprobe, not modprobe.d
[19:47] <BluesKaj> yes, sorry plain modprobe
[19:47] <chrisfromgreece> no output
[19:48] <BluesKaj> good, so no error, try a reboot
[19:48] <chrisfromgreece> ok
[19:48] <chrisfromgreece> i will
[19:48] <chrisfromgreece> thank you
[19:48] <chrisfromgreece> wait to test
[19:50] <BluesKaj> chrisfromgreece, we'll be here
[19:52] <BluesKaj> that intel driver not loading bug has been around since 12.04 iirc , can't figure why it hasn't been fixed
[19:53] <chrisfromgreece_> nothing
[19:53] <chrisfromgreece_> no sound
[19:53] <chrisfromgreece_> only virtual output
[19:53] <BluesKaj> virtual output ?
[19:53] <furkan> chrisfromgreece_: you mean that's the only output that shows up in your sound settings?
[19:53] <chrisfromgreece_> yes
[19:53] <furkan> what else do you have plugged in?
[19:53] <furkan> and which jacks
[19:54] <chrisfromgreece_> only output
[19:54] <furkan> so you just have speakers plugged into the rear jack?
[19:54] <chrisfromgreece_> yes
[19:55] <furkan> no headphones? just checking, because i encountered a weird bug with headphone detection
[19:55] <BluesKaj> make sure automute is disabled in alsamixer
[19:56] <chrisfromgreece_> no headphone
[19:56] <chrisfromgreece_> and no output only virtual output
[19:57] <BluesKaj> what virtual output?
[19:57] <chrisfromgreece_> dummy
[19:57] <chrisfromgreece_> virtual ouput !no soundcards nothing
[19:57] <BluesKaj> don't use dummy
[19:58] <chrisfromgreece_> theres nothing else
[19:58] <chrisfromgreece_> its the only choice
[19:58] <BluesKaj> which chip does alsamixer show in the uppper left?
[19:58] <lordievader> chrisfromgreece_: What is the output of 'lspci -k|grep -A2 Audio'?
[19:58] <lordievader> !pastebin
[19:59] <chrisfromgreece_> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04) Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 7270 Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
[20:00] <chrisfromgreece_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10840489/
[20:00] <lordievader> chrisfromgreece_: Okay what is the output of 'aplay -l' again via paste.ubu ;)
[20:02] <chrisfromgreece_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10840502/
[20:04] <lordievader> chrisfromgreece_: Okay, that looks allright. Do you hear sound when you run 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav'?
[20:05] <BluesKaj> I think you have automute enabled in alsmixer
[20:05] <chrisfromgreece_> no
[20:07] <lordievader> chrisfromgreece_: Does alsamixer show your soundcard?
[20:08] <chrisfromgreece_> tes
[20:08] <chrisfromgreece_> yes
[20:10] <lordievader> chrisfromgreece_: The line to your speakers isn't muted anywhere?
[20:11] <chrisfromgreece_> no
[20:12] <lordievader> chrisfromgreece_: Is it analog or digital?
[20:12] <chrisfromgreece_> analog ?
[20:12] <lordievader> Meh, nevermind. What is the output of 'paplay -l"?
[20:13] <chrisfromgreece_> what happened
[20:13] <lordievader> ?
[20:13] <chrisfromgreece_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10840558/
[20:15] <lordievader> Ah I ment 'pactl list'...
[20:16] <chrisfromgreece_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10840574/
[20:19] <lordievader> As I figured, Pulseaudio doesn't like your sound card.
[20:19] <lordievader> Have you been messing with PA settings?
[20:20] <BluesKaj> odd, intel soundcards are usually very easy to setup with PA
[20:20] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Not if you remove the alsa module from pa's config ;)
[20:22] <chrisfromgreece_> i have enabled the backport repository
[20:22] <chrisfromgreece_> and just update and distupgrade
[20:22] <chrisfromgreece_> then no sound
[20:22] <chrisfromgreece_> and i liked the ubuntu 15.04
[20:23] <lordievader> chrisfromgreece_: Is pavucontrol installed?
[20:23] <chrisfromgreece_> yes
[20:23] <lordievader> chrisfromgreece_: Do you get your sound card back when you run 'pulseaudio -k'
[20:23] <lordievader> ?
[20:24] <chrisfromgreece_> no
[20:24] <Etriaph> plasmate has no debugging symbols, how would I report a bug with a raw backtrace?
[20:24] <chrisfromgreece_> im so ungry right now
[20:24] <lordievader> chrisfromgreece_: Is auto spawn on?
[20:25] <chrisfromgreece_> what where
[20:26] <BluesKaj> lordievader, my laptop doesn't have PA installed with intel hda driver, it's not needed, unless one wants simultaneous sound sources
[20:26] <lordievader> chrisfromgreece_: Pulseaudio's reswpawn feature.
[20:26] <lordievader> BluesKaj: I know, we talked about it...
[20:27] <BluesKaj> I wonder if PA is the causae here
[20:27] <BluesKaj> err cause
[20:27] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Yes, alsa sees his cards. Pulse doesnt.
[20:28] <chrisfromgreece_> anyway thanks for your help. I have tried betas so many times for every single ubuntu version and had no problems
[20:28] <BluesKaj> that is strange tho, lordievader unles he mucked about the PA settings
[20:28] <chrisfromgreece_> its the first time im having problems
[20:29] <BluesKaj> chrisfromgreece_, try removing puls audio
[20:29] <chrisfromgreece_> it will remove ubuntu too ?
[20:29] <BluesKaj> err pulseaudio that is
[20:29] <BluesKaj> no
[20:30] <lordievader> That is way too blunt.
[20:30] <chrisfromgreece_> yes i'm doing this right now
[20:30] <lordievader> Rather try to figure out why PA is doing what it is doing.
[20:31] <BluesKaj> he can always reinstall PA , perhaps he doesn't need simultaneous sound sources
[20:31] <chrisfromgreece_> am i the only one ?
[20:31] <chrisfromgreece_> i dont get it
[20:31] <BluesKaj> chrisfromgreece_, I don't have PA on my intel audio laptop
[20:32] <chrisfromgreece_> now what ?
[20:32] <lordievader> I use it extensively for it's network support.
[20:32] <lordievader> chrisfromgreece_: Disable the respawn and run it in a shell.
[20:33] <lordievader> Preferably with some debug logging.
[20:33] <chrisfromgreece_> respawn ?
[20:33] <lordievader> chrisfromgreece_: Yes, respawn, autospawn. However they called it.
[20:34] <chrisfromgreece_> from where
[20:35] <chrisfromgreece_> where i find this configuration dont know it
[20:35] <lordievader> chrisfromgreece_: /etc/pulseaudio/*
[20:36] * lordievader time for me to break my laptop
[20:36] <chrisfromgreece_> ? no directory
[20:37] <chrisfromgreece_> no hope
[20:37] <chrisfromgreece_> thank you anyway
[20:38] <lordievader> Did you remove PA?
[20:40] <chrisfromgreece_> yes
[20:43] <lordievader> ...
[22:26] <psusi> anyone know why a youtube says that firefox doesn't support h264?
[22:42] <genii> Probably because you don't have that codec installed.
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-irc
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ubuntu-chat
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[19:40] <dobey> hi, can someone please remove/ban studio_ from #ubuntu-touch ? he's back and being an extreme pest with repetitive nonsense yet again, and k1l doesn't seem to be around there (not sure who else in there has perms to do it)
[19:40] <Fuchs> dobey: everybody with +o on /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-touch list
[19:56] <Pici> dobey: You can also call for ! ops there (no space)
[20:03] <dobey> thanks anyway
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| 2015-04-17T00:00:00
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2015-04-17-#maas
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"authors": [
"mup",
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"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23maas.txt"
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ubuntu-chat
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[10:46] <mup> Bug #1445430 was opened: 1.8b3 Incorrect padding on MAAS logo <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445430>
[10:55] <mup> Bug #1445430 changed: 1.8b3 Incorrect padding on MAAS logo <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445430>
[10:58] <mup> Bug #1445430 was opened: 1.8b3 Incorrect padding on MAAS logo <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445430>
[13:13] <mup> Bug #1445482 was opened: Nodes in "New" state cannot be powered off <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445482>
[13:22] <mup> Bug #1445482 changed: Nodes in "New" state cannot be powered off <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445482>
[13:31] <mup> Bug #1445482 was opened: Nodes in "New" state cannot be powered off <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445482>
[15:52] <mup> Bug #1445563 was opened: 1.8beta3: Selecting a new filter doesn't bring my view to the top of the node list <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445563>
[17:05] <mup> Bug #1445574 was opened: MAAS doesn't provide node utilization over time information <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445574>
[21:34] <nodtkn> howdy does anyone have a link to supported power controllers?
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-unity
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"Cimi",
"MacSlow",
"Mirv",
"Saviq",
"dandrader",
"davmor2",
"dednick",
"dpm",
"mzanetti",
"pete-woods",
"pstolowski",
"tsdgeos"
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"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-unity.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
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[07:42] <tsdgeos> Mirv: are at we at the state of caring about new patches that fix the "desktop" use case for the dbus patchset?
[07:42] <tsdgeos> in case we are, there's updated https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/110325/ and https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/110643 that is new and should be applied before
[07:44] <Mirv> tsdgeos: well sure, since it'd be a bit unfortunate to land something to rtm that can't be landed to w, so if we have something that would be acceptable to both that'd be great.
[07:44] <tsdgeos> Mirv: so try applying those too please :)
[07:44] <Mirv> trying
[07:46] <Mirv> tsdgeos: 110325 has a new title but it's the one that replaces the older WIP-Deliver-events-in-threads-regardless-of-QCoreApp.patch, right?
[07:47] <tsdgeos> Mirv: i think so yes, that's probably why the new one is there, i think it was kind of spawned into two
[07:51] <Mirv> tsdgeos: 110325 now depends on adding something to qevdevtouchhandler_p.h that doesn't exist on 5.4
[07:52] <tsdgeos> Mirv: it's fine, don't add it then
[07:52] <tsdgeos> that particular patch to the file i mean
[07:53] <tsdgeos> it's not a dependency, it's "fixing" the file, since we don't have it, nothing to fix
[07:53] <Mirv> ok
[07:59] <Mirv> tsdgeos: hmm. notifyInternal2 function in https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/110325/7/src/corelib/kernel/qcoreapplication.cpp,unified also doesn't exist in 5.4 (hunks 3 and 4). also regarding notify_helper it's quite different in 5.4 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10837225/ so I'm not sure if it needs changing (hunk 6)
[08:00] <tsdgeos> Mirv: that's why i said that https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/110643/1//ALL goes before
[08:01] <Mirv> tsdgeos: oh, right, I did that, then I had a previous error and tried switching it back. thanks :)
[08:01] <Mirv> ok, seems it's rebased again
[08:04] <Mirv> cleaned 018 from the old builds and pushing a new one
[08:18] <tsdgeos> :)
[08:24] <tsdgeos> Saviq: do you think we could do "a small landing" with what we have at the moment? to get 5.5 build out there and those small things?
[08:24] <Saviq> tsdgeos, we could, usre
[08:24] <Saviq> sure, even
[08:25] <Saviq> I *think*
[08:25] <tsdgeos> :D
[08:25] <Saviq> we're in Final Freeze since yesterday
[08:25] <tsdgeos> or well there's this release thing
[08:25] <tsdgeos> right
[08:25] <tsdgeos> i wonder when w is going to open
[08:25] <tsdgeos> we need a name!
[08:26] <Saviq> Mirv, what's the archive state atm, can we land anything? and will vivid accept anything before the release next week?
[08:26] <davmor2> tsdgeos: as I understand it there will be like a standby ppa till w is open and the initial imports done
[08:27] <davmor2> but I think that is just for phone
[08:38] <tsdgeos> dednick: are you adding the deletes to https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/unity8/1436982.message-freeze/+merge/255702 ?
[08:38] <dednick> tsdgeos: i am. but i'm adding unit tests for the async calls.
[08:38] <tsdgeos> dednick: cool
[08:45] <Mirv> Saviq: archive is closed regarding us, we'll start landings to https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay today
[08:47] <Mirv> devel-proposed will be built using that PPA too
[08:48] <dpm> could someone help a scope developer? -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/610196/scope-developing-how-to-change-scope-result-inside-perform-action
[08:49] <Saviq> Mirv, okies
[08:49] <Saviq> pstolowski, ↑ askubuntu for you guys
[09:15] <Mirv> tsdgeos: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/203564985/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.qtbase-opensource-src_5.4.1%2Bdfsg-2ubuntu6~rtm~test1_BUILDING.txt.gz error: type 'QThread' is not a direct base of 'QEvdevTabletHandlerThread'
[09:16] <tsdgeos> hmmm
[09:16] <tsdgeos> let me check
[09:18] <pstolowski> dpm, Saviq, replied. btw that reminded me of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1335761 cause he is likely to hit it; do you recall if we concluded anything about that bug?
[09:18] <pstolowski> also tsdgeos ^
[09:19] <tsdgeos> Mirv: can you replace the QThread(parent) in there by QDaemonThread(parent) ?
[09:19] <tsdgeos> src/platformsupport/input/evdevtablet/qevdevtablet.cpp line 295
[09:19] <tsdgeos> and i'll comment in the MR
[09:20] <dpm> thanks pstolowski!
[09:20] <Mirv> tsdgeos: ok
[09:23] <Mirv> adding to the patch
[09:24] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: have you tried this lately? maybe it was fixed when we made temp scopes open temp scopes?
[09:24] <tsdgeos> or has nothing to do?
[09:28] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, maybe, i'm not sure. no idea what what;s the best scope right now to exhibit this problem, the steps for youtube from the bug report don't seem to be applicable any,ore
[09:29] <pstolowski> pete-woods, hey, has 'Search' button been removed from youtube previews for channels? this is re https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1335761 ?
[09:31] <pete-woods> pstolowski: hmm. I haven't changed youtube in quite some time
[09:33] <pstolowski> pete-woods, i cannot follow the steps from this report, because there is no search button in previews..
[09:34] <pete-woods> pstolowski: I think you had to preview a channel, or something like that
[09:34] <pete-woods> but I ended up taking all that out
[09:34] <pete-woods> obviously my bug description has now become junk
[09:37] <pete-woods> pstolowski: actually, it looks like it works now!
[09:37] <pstolowski> pete-woods, also some time ago we change the semantics of handling of scope:// uris in the shell; the are not preview-able, they just start a new search
[09:37] <pete-woods> yes
[09:37] <pete-woods> this is what I wanted!
[09:37] <pete-woods> so you can click through playlists
[09:37] <pete-woods> and it shows the contents
[09:37] <pstolowski> pete-woods, i suppose before you had an intermediate step of displaying a preview of a channel, now you don't have that
[09:37] <pete-woods> pstolowski: yeah, but you could't expand the playlist
[09:38] <pete-woods> as the search button URI didn't work
[09:38] <pstolowski> oh right
[09:38] <pete-woods> pstolowski: the navigation is a bit broken now, thouygh
[09:38] <pete-woods> when you hit back from inside in item in a playlist, you get dumped all the way out
[09:38] <pete-woods> but I guess that's the same in a lot of places in the dash
[09:38] <pstolowski> you get out of the youtube scope?
[09:39] <pete-woods> pstolowski: yeah
[09:39] <pete-woods> or if it's favourited, you get taken back to home
[09:39] <pstolowski> yeah i see it
[09:39] <pete-woods> pstolowski: I think we would really benefit from a history stack in the dash
[09:40] <pstolowski> yes
[09:41] <pstolowski> ok, to sum up, i'm not sure a Search button from the preview would work. what many scopes including youtube use is canned queries in search results, which always worked fine
[10:10] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, unfortunately changes to temp scopes didn't fix the issue; i've just commented on the bug report
[10:10] <tsdgeos> k
[10:13] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: what happens in that case signal wise?
[10:13] <tsdgeos> are we just getting a "search changed"?
[10:14] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, i havent' debugged it this time, but i think my comment #4 is still valid
[10:15] <tsdgeos> ok
[10:15] <tsdgeos> well i guess until noone really wants to do this
[10:15] <tsdgeos> it's no high prio :D
[10:18] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/fix-dnd-cancelling/+merge/256462/comments/639298
[10:18] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, uh oh. thanks a lot for catching this
[10:19] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: honestly i think we should block clicks so you can't open an app while you're dragging an icon
[10:19] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, well, people do this, as the above ubuntuask question & comments to this bug show ;)
[10:19] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: then tell the powers that be to make it higher prio D:
[10:20] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: but still the cancellation should work fine in case it happens
[10:20] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, i think it's pretty useful for scopes to display a preview button that re-does the search with speicifc params
[10:20] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: agreed
[10:21] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, yeah, definitely... the canellation might happen for different reasons. also tapping outside with another finger to close the launcher
[10:21] <mzanetti> I guess notifications, exiting apps and whatnot can cause it too
[10:22] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, I can't launch another app while draggin one
[10:23] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: be in the app cscope
[10:23] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: you can click icons in the background
[10:23] <tsdgeos> it's kind of confusing
[10:23] <mzanetti> uh oh
[10:23] * mzanetti tries
[10:24] <mzanetti> indeed... that should not work
[10:24] <mzanetti> otoh... the fact that we both notice it now for the first time :D
[10:25] <tsdgeos> yaeh
[10:25] <tsdgeos> well it's not too often that you use two fingers
[10:26] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: i mean that's actually the other way i have to cancel the drag, hwo do you do it otherwise?
[10:26] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, when on the greeter, swipe the launcher away to the left
[10:27] <tsdgeos> ah it's on the greeter
[10:27] <mzanetti> well... doesn't matter... that's one way I found to repro a cancel
[10:27] <tsdgeos> right
[10:27] <tsdgeos> the other way i found was opnenig an app :D
[10:27] <mzanetti> right :)
[10:55] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, fixed
[10:55] <tsdgeos> k
[11:15] <MacSlow> mzanetti: Did you do any launcher-parity work already in a branch I should be picking up?
[11:15] <mzanetti> MacSlow, nope, don't have a branch. what would you start with?
[11:16] <MacSlow> mzanetti: I think the app-launching animation
[11:16] <mzanetti> ack
[11:17] <MacSlow> mzanetti: trello-card is also filled with the most current info from Design now
[11:18] <MacSlow> mzanetti: still need to pull all animation-spec info from Design
[11:19] <mzanetti> MacSlow, looking at that design picture I see conflicting specs with what they requested for the phone
[11:19] <mzanetti> MacSlow, for instance the quicklist was explicitly requested to not be next to the panel, but above/below the pressed icon
[11:19] <mzanetti> now in this one it's the old style again
[11:20] <MacSlow> mzanetti, I've seen the "above" version too
[11:20] <MacSlow> mzanetti: I'm expecting to do more details-info hunting in the coming days
[11:21] <mzanetti> MacSlow, so for things that are just not there yet, I guess whatever design comes up with is fine. but before changing existing things, please talk to me first
[11:21] <MacSlow> mzanetti: I want to keep asking question on a case-by-case/feature-by-feature basis
[11:21] <MacSlow> mzanetti: ack
[12:04] <MacSlow> mzanetti, do you know what "lockout capability" means wrt to launcher-feature-parity? Lockout as in "log out of session"?!
[12:32] <Saviq> MacSlow|lunch, no, always-show
[12:47] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: that's the other bug we found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1445472
[12:51] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: i'm on bug finding mode today https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/fix-dnd-cancelling/+merge/256462/comments/639341
[12:54] <dandrader> Saviq, will change to Super_L only after the change has landed. Otherwise people won't be able to test it: https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/homeKey/+merge/256658
[12:56] <mzanetti> MacSlow|lunch, lockout: make the launcher stay on screen
[12:56] <mzanetti> instead of auto-hiding
[12:58] <Saviq> dandrader, sure
[12:59] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, can't repro
[12:59] <tsdgeos> it is a bit tricky
[12:59] <tsdgeos> i agree
[12:59] <mzanetti> ah, got it... but not sure what I did
[12:59] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: let me repeat what needs to be done
[13:00] <tsdgeos> basically you need to be moving the drag finger and the "cancel" finger at the same time
[13:00] <tsdgeos> and get lucky the drag finger would put it in the "next spot" i guess
[13:00] <mzanetti> yeah, that's how I understand the comment
[13:00] <mzanetti> right. the "lucky" part is a bit odd :D
[13:01] <tsdgeos> :D
[13:02] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, I think I found a way.... seems to happen if you get the cancel during a progressive autoscroll
[13:05] <MacSlow> Saviq, mzanetti: hm... ok, odd feature-name then :)
[13:15] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, can you give it another try?
[13:16] * mzanetti goes friday labbing
[13:16] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: sure, just after flashing stable finishes
[13:16] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, thanks
[13:30] <tsdgeos> uh oh
[13:30] <tsdgeos> my BQ is in an infinite reboot loop
[13:30] <tsdgeos> after flashing stable
[13:37] <tsdgeos> and disconnecting the usb cable fixed it
[13:37] <tsdgeos> :S
[13:38] <MacSlow> :)
[13:50] <Cimi> Saviq, design is ok if we just use art header horizontal for the configuration cards
[14:04] <MacSlow> mzanetti, we do already have badge-counters in the unity8-lauchner as far as I can tell. Only top-right or bottom-right corner is unclear. Right?!
[14:05] <mzanetti> MacSlow, I hear bottom-right for the first time right now
[14:06] <mzanetti> MacSlow, where does it say bottom-right?
[14:07] <MacSlow> mzanetti, we do have badge-counters for all I know... at least I see them in the settings-icon when updates arrive on the device... in mockups I've seen contradicting top-right and bottom-right variations... email to design regarding this (among other things) is on its way to them .
[14:07] <mzanetti> MacSlow, pretty sure the bottom-right is a mistake
[14:07] <mzanetti> MacSlow, on the bottom there is a progress bar
[14:07] <mzanetti> we already have that, just not used anywhere yet
[14:08] <MacSlow> mzanetti, hm... the progress-bar is meant to e i nthe middle o fthe icon...
[14:08] <MacSlow> mzanetti, the "available updates" counter on the settings-icon... is that not a badge-counter?!
[14:08] <mzanetti> MacSlow, do a "make tryShell"
[14:09] <mzanetti> there you'll see all the things
[14:09] <MacSlow> mzanetti, ok
[14:10] <mzanetti> MacSlow, yes, the settings thing is the badge-counter
[14:13] <MacSlow> mzanetti, general question... the spreadsheet "N/A" means "none available" or "not applicable"
[14:13] <mzanetti> yes
[14:14] <MacSlow> mzanetti, that was a this-or-that question... not yes-or-no :)
[14:15] <mzanetti> dunno... means it's not there
[14:15] <mzanetti> :D
[14:15] <MacSlow> mzanetti, ok :)
[14:15] <MacSlow> mzanetti, "blocked on design" this means to me then
[14:15] <mzanetti> MacSlow, if you refer to the ones in the "Visual Design" column, feel free to question that if you think there is a visual design needed
[14:16] <mzanetti> MacSlow, for example in row 17 I would disagree that a visual design is not applicable. becuase I already had one when I implemented that
[14:17] <mzanetti> anhow, as it's already implemented we probably don't *really* need it any more now
[14:17] <mzanetti> although it should be archived in that design website...
[14:18] <MacSlow> mzanetti, I'll focus first on really non-implemented pieces first, before I start polishing things... since I know that's far more design-feedback-intense
[14:18] <Saviq> Cimi, so no work for us yet, then?
[14:18] <Cimi> Saviq, I would say so
[14:18] <Saviq> Cimi, cool, DONE
[14:18] <Cimi> :D
[14:19] <Saviq> Cimi, ok, so to fix the visual effect, jump on the shape card then
[14:19] <Saviq> Cimi, or let's size it after standup
[19:30] <dandrader> is it just me or does it really take forever to download an image to flash
[19:31] <dandrader> ?
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2015-04-17-#ubuntustudio
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"authors": [
"Guest35203",
"florian_",
"nazareno",
"ubuntu",
"zequence"
],
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"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:28",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntustudio.txt"
}
|
ubuntu-chat
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[14:57] <nazareno> Hello, I installed ubuntu studio, and I want to connect my guitar through the usb adapter. what program (s) have to use?
[15:03] <zequence> nazareno: Are you looking for a virtual amplifier?
[15:03] <zequence> nazareno: You'll need to run jack. You'll need to choose your audio device, then start jack.
[15:04] <zequence> (in qjackctl)
[15:06] <nazareno> zequence: Thanks
[15:06] <zequence> nazareno: Many applications that need jack won't start until jack is running
[15:06] <nazareno> zequence: ok
[15:07] <nazareno> zequence: it recognizes th usb?
[15:07] <zequence> If your card is supported, yes
[15:08] <nazareno> zequence: ok, I'll try it, thanks!
[15:09] <zequence> nazareno: Once you have jack running, and the application that you like to use, you may need to connect your audio device with the application. In qjackctl you do this under "Connect"
[21:54] <florian_> hello
[22:55] <ubuntu> hola
[22:55] <ubuntu> Hi
[22:56] <Guest35203> need driver wifi pleace help
[22:56] <Guest35203> somebody can help me?
[22:57] <Guest35203> i dont have driver wifi install
[22:58] <Guest35203> Hello?
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.436317
| 2015-04-17T00:00:00
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-us-pa
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"authors": [
"JonathanD",
"WorkingTurkey",
"lazyPower",
"rmg51",
"teddy-dbear"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-pa",
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"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:29",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-us-pa.txt"
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ubuntu-chat
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[09:21] <rmg51> Morning
[09:29] <JonathanD> Hello rmg51
[09:34] <rmg51> o/
[12:07] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples and whatever else is around
[13:10] <WorkingTurkey> morning people? that's not me
[13:33] <teddy-dbear> your a whatever else ;-)
[22:30] <lazyPower> If you're not currently familiar with Squeezebox - i cannot recommend it enough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFaREwbtKyY
[22:30] <lazyPower> DIY setup with mostly stuff on hand. Server software was free
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.456549
| 2015-04-17T00:00:00
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-community-team
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"authors": [
"belkinsa",
"dholbach",
"dpm",
"jono",
"mhall119",
"popey"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-community-team",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:30",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-community-team.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
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[07:39] <dpm> good morning all
[15:40] <dholbach> mhall119, if you look at https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy/snappy/files/head:/docs/ - do you think they'd be suitable for developer.ubuntu.com/api?
[15:50] <mhall119> dholbach: not really, it's not an API, it would be better suited in a normal docs page IMO
[15:50] <mhall119> jono: did you get my email reply from yesterday?
[15:50] <jono> mhall119, I didn't - to which email address?
[15:51] <mhall119><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:51] <jono> let me check
[15:51] <jono> thanks, pal!
[15:51] <jono> got 'em :-)
[15:52] <mhall119> np
[15:53] <mhall119> jono: still having fun over at x-prize?
[15:53] <mhall119> things should start getting exciting after next week
[15:53] <jono> mhall119, good times
[15:53] <jono> definitely a challenge
[15:53] <jono> lots of learning though :-)
[15:53] <jono> mhall119, we should catch up :-)
[15:54] <mhall119> we should, but not today
[15:54] <jono> next week?
[15:54] <mhall119> I've been awake since 3am with a sick child
[15:55] <mhall119> next week I'm in London, how about the week after?
[15:55] <belkinsa> o/ jono, long time no see.
[15:55] <jono> he belkinsa !
[15:55] <jono> week after sounds good - that works best for me
[15:55] <jono> London, eh?
[15:55] <jono> nice!
[15:55] <mhall119> yeah, I'm excited, I've only stopped in Gatwick on my way to somewhere else before
[15:55] <mhall119> looking forward to actually getting that UK stamp on my passport
[16:05] <popey> mhall119: you've never been to the UK before?
[16:05] <mhall119> not outside of the airport, no
[16:05] <popey> golly
[16:05] <mhall119> I know
[17:16] <dpm> ok, calling it a day, have a great weekend everyone!
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-discuss
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ubuntu-chat
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[04:25] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:26] <ablest1980> gm
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: hello mate
[04:26] <ablest1980> hello
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/cirrus7-nimbini-ubuntu-pc-announced
[04:29] <ablest1980> website loading
[04:29] <ablest1980> im updating
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> oh okay :p
[04:30] <ablest1980> looks good
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> yeah alot of ubuntu devices rise up these days
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> thats promising
[04:31] <ablest1980> :)
[04:32] <ablest1980> we got different a/c plugs in us
[04:32] <ablest1980> ---(}=
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> ah
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/Ubuntu-15-04-Vivid-Vervet-Is-Now-in-Final-Freeze-Arrives-on-April-23-478634.shtml
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> vivid almost there
[04:36] <ablest1980> 15.04 lts is comming?
[04:36] <ablest1980> next week?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> not lts
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> !15.04
[04:40] <ablest1980> beta?
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> final
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> and next week official release yes
[04:40] <ablest1980> ok
[04:41] <ablest1980> softpedia link stil loading
[04:41] <ablest1980> software updater install java 8
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> kk
[04:58] <ablest1980> join #ubuntu-offtopic lotuspsychje
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: why?
[04:59] <ablest1980> people talking there
[05:13] <ablest1980> lotuspsychje bbl
[05:53] <ki7mt> Evening / Morning / Afternoon All :-)
[08:55] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:54] <OerHeks> Hey BluesKaj :-D
[12:54] <OerHeks> How is life?
[12:55] <BluesKaj> Hi OerHeks, just fine here thanks , and you?
[12:55] <OerHeks> Just finished hanging laundry in the sun, walking the dogs, making diner for mom in the hospital, and life is looking great, weekend is comming.
[12:55] <OerHeks> Lack of funding for an ubuntu-phone is just a detail.
[13:03] <BluesKaj> funny I have no desire to buy an iubuntu phone , even if it was available
[13:04] <OerHeks> Just for fun.
[13:04] <OerHeks> I love to read people working on it in #ubuntu-touch
[13:19] * popey tickles OerHeks
[13:21] <OerHeks> hi popey :-D
[13:22] <OerHeks> and yes, i tried to fold a origami thing, not that handy with paper i am afraid
[16:08] <daftykins> oh dear Tux, not the 'when is it out?' talk again :(
[16:09] <BluesKaj> yeah , it's already starting...are we there yet ? :)
[16:37] <daftykins> ;)
[16:45] <OerHeks> I answer that question with '27th' :-)
[17:09] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, it's 23rd
[17:09] <OerHeks> I know, now.
[17:13] <daftykins> it might get delayed like whichever last time ;)
[17:21] <OerHeks> oke ATA = 23th around sometime before midnight
[17:21] <OerHeks> because that would be q nr 2
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu
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ubuntu-chat
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[00:00] <MichaelTiebesl> Lui_:yw
[00:01] <godd> zerowaitstate: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10835841/
[00:01] <Mr-Potter> godd: Thanks for confirming that, can't argue with you sorry
[00:01] <Mr-Potter> anyway I think you have to mount it
[00:01] <zerowaitstate> godd: okay, it is partitioned, but evidently not formatted
[00:01] <Mr-Potter> oh nvm
[00:02] <zerowaitstate> godd: therefore, you must format it
[00:02] <godd> zerowaitstate: how do i format? And thank you for helping.
[00:02] <zerowaitstate> godd: which filesystem do you want to use?
[00:03] <Lui_> Ty, Michael. :)
[00:03] <godd> zerowaitstate: ntfs I think is the most common, am i correct? i will be using the drive to store mp3 files.
[00:04] <ObrienDave> if you want to access files under windows, ntfs or fat32
[00:04] <zerowaitstate> godd: an easy way, if you are using ubuntu desktop, is to go to the "disks" utility from the unity menu. hit your windows key then type "disks" and click the application that pops up
[00:04] <godd> zerowaitstate: I did that but my drive doesn't show up there
[00:05] <zerowaitstate> godd: try "gksudo gnome-disks" from the command line and tell me if it shows up
[00:07] <zerowaitstate> godd: if that doesn't work, you can use "sudo mke2fs /dev/sdb1" from the command line to create the filesystem
[00:07] <godd> zerowaitstate: it isn't there, I'm trying the second command now.
[00:08] <godd> zerowaitstate: it's "writing inode tables"
[00:08] <zerowaitstate> godd: yup
[00:09] <zerowaitstate> godd: oh wait, you wanted ntfs didn't you
[00:10] <godd> zerowaitstate: whatever will be compatible with ubuntu and windows both will work
[00:10] <zerowaitstate> godd: you would do the same thing, only it would be "sudo mkntfs /dev/sdb1" instead
[00:10] <godd> zerowaitstate: thanks!
[00:11] <zerowaitstate> godd: after the filesystem is created you'll need to mount it to access it. I would expect ubuntu to automount a usb volume once it's formatted, but if it doesn't you can mount it manually by creating a directory such as /mnt/externaldrive and then doing "mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt/externaldrive"
[00:13] <zerowaitstate> godd: remember, though, that with external drives, just like on windows, you have to "safely remove" them. you do this in ubuntu either via the umount command on mounted directory, or by clicking the eject icon to the right of the drive in the file manager
[00:13] <zerowaitstate> godd: unmounting flushes changes to the disk and ensures no processes have open files on the disk
[00:14] <godd> zerowaitstate: I'll remember that! Thanks for the help and information!!
[00:29] <mike> hey does anyone ever deal with video lag on full screen?
[00:30] <Guest39785> hey does anyone ever deal with video lag on full screen?
[00:31] <voidwalker> hello. i need some help upgrading from wine1.7.38 to wine1.7.40, i have enabled the relevant ppa but i am stuck in .38 version
[00:32] <hkrrsx> voidwalker: /join #winehq
[00:32] <voidwalker> hkrrsx, i did, i have no idea why the dev version doesnt appear in ppa
[00:33] <hkrrsx> voidwalker: Have you run ' sudo apt-get update ' since you've added the PPA ?
[00:33] <voidwalker> hkrrsx, yes of course. wine1.7.38 isnt in ubuntu repos i got it from that ppa in the first place
[00:34] <hkrrsx> Perhaps apt-get purge wine1.7.38 and then install 1.7.40 ?
[00:35] <voidwalker> hkrrsx, i installed wine yesterday and got .38, .40 simply isnt there
[00:35] <mekhami> This is an off-topic question but I have no idea where else to ask it: what would cause two machines on the same network to resolve a URL completely differently? I'm running Ubuntu/Chrome, she's using Windows 7/Chrome, we're on the same network, but we both navigate to seamless.com and I get the website, she gets one of those domain camped websites
[00:35] <hkrrsx> Sorry, hopefully the #winehq have a better answewr
[00:37] <ObrienDave> mekhami, check to see if you're both using the same DNS address
[00:38] <kevin_007> join #python
[00:50] <voidwalker> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ricotz/unstable
[00:50] <voidwalker> you need to add that to get last wine
[00:50] <voidwalker> not in wine team ppa
[00:52] <lingyue> 大家好
[00:52] <lingyue> chinese
[00:53] <soulisson> Hi, i'm trying to set up an iptable rule for NAT, my rule is the following "iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -p ip -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -j SNAT --to-source <IP_ADDRESS>"
[00:54] <soulisson> however the translation is not working
[00:56] <rexuss> Hi lingyue
[00:56] <hkrrsx> soulisson: Found this "step-by-step" guide on NAT using iptables: https://www.howtoforge.com/nat_iptables
[00:57] <soulisson> hkrrsx: thanks
[00:59] <hkrrsx> 8-)
[01:04] <psyrus_> um
[01:06] <gzcwnk> #clusterlabs
[01:06] <gzcwnk> oopsie
[01:13] <rexuss> 你们好
[01:13] <scuba323> hey all
[01:17] <Myll_> hi, i'm calling a python script from PHP on my website. the python script is next to the index.html, and it creates a new file in that directory when ran. i'm fairly sure it's failing due to permission issues. i've tested it on localhost and it runs fine, and i made sure python3 is installed on the server. how would i go about changing permissions on the server so that the python script can write to the directory?
[01:27] <gzcwnk> anybody used corsync for clustering?
[01:32] <gzcwnk> what runs a firewall on ubuntu 14.o4 lts and how can i turn it off?
[01:33] <compdoc> gzcwnk, there is none
[01:33] <xangua> it's off by default
[01:36] <hiexpo> xangua, you have to install one
[01:36] <coffee-> !themes
[01:37] <struhevol> how can i make an admin see changes in bashrc
[01:37] <struhevol> i logged in as root made some changes
[01:37] <struhevol> and now when i logged in as admin i see no changes
[01:37] <struhevol> is there a way for the admin to be able to see the changes made in bashrc
[01:38] <hiexpo> xangua, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewall
[01:38] <gzcwnk> comdoc there is a firewall on my system and I want to turn it off
[01:39] <struhevol> is there a ubuntu help channel
[01:40] <somsip> struhevol: you are in it
[01:40] <hiexpo> struhevol, what did you change in bash?
[01:41] <struhevol> hiexpo i did a figlet logged in as root and when i logged in as an admin i dont see the changes
[01:42] <zykotick9> struhevol: fyi, .bashrc is usually user specific...
[01:42] <struhevol> i am still new to this
[01:42] <struhevol> thank you
[01:42] <struhevol> this is my 3rd using linux
[01:42] <struhevol> 3rd day
[01:42] <struhevol> learning basic commands
[01:43] <struhevol> i just wanted to know if i make changes to bashrc logged in as root why the admin does not see the changes
[01:44] <Blue1> struhevol: you have to logout/back in again (well just end bash) to have the changes re-read
[01:44] <struhevol> its user specific how can i add a user to be able to changes to the bashrc
[01:44] <netlar> Copy Paste is not working on my computer. It is happening in several applications. Is there a fix for this?
[01:44] <Blue1> netlar: how are you copying / pasting?
[01:44] <netlar> Just to add, it sometimes works, this problem is happening randomly
[01:45] <xangua> netlar: after you copy a text, do you close the application wich you copied it¿
[01:45] <netlar> Blue1: with the menu or shortcuts
[01:45] <netlar> xangua: nope
[01:45] <struhevol> ?? i am sorry i have to what logout of the adim log into root and then make bash to re-read ?? i am lost so confused
[01:45] <netlar> I will reboot and it will be fixed for awhile
[01:45] <Blue1> netlar: if you close the app after copying, it flushes the buffer
[01:46] <hiexpo> sounds like ram
[01:46] <netlar> Blue1: nope
[01:46] <xangua> netlar: if yes, try to install a clipboard manager, like: diodon
[01:46] <Blue1> struhevol: just end the terminal session, and restart it. no need to be root for that.
[01:46] <netlar> xangua: I do have diodon installed
[01:46] <Kapowza> i have a question. i followed the steps here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/577941/installing-the-driver-for-tp-link-tl-wn727n-on-ubuntu-14-04 to install my wifi. At the end of the steps, it says that after a kernel upgrade, it must be recompiled and it lists 5 commands to be entered into the terminal. is there any way to put these into a single file that i can put on the desktop and just double click instead of having to enter tho
[01:46] <struhevol> i did
[01:46] <Bashing-om> netlar: Is not the file in question a dot file .bashrc ? .. to see that file one has to unhide it .. as the (.) makes it a hidden file .
[01:47] <struhevol> i exit out of the terminal
[01:47] <Kapowza> i feel like this is a pretty simple thing to do, but im slightly ubuntu-illiterate
[01:47] <struhevol> and opened a new terminal still no changes
[01:47] <netlar> Bashing-om: this affects any copy pasting I do
[01:47] <struhevol> i know i am doing something wrong i just dont understand for some reason sorry i am trying to figure this out its complicated atm guys
[01:47] <netlar> Plus when I highlight a word, it will unhighlight it
[01:47] <Bashing-om> struhevol: ^^ sorry netlar .. meant that for other .
[01:48] <ObrienDave> Kapowza, yes you can, or make an alias with all the commands in a string
[01:48] <netlar> This problem appears to be system wide
[01:48] <Blue1> netlar if you are tying to copy or paste into a terminal window you need to do ctrl+shft
[01:48] <netlar> I was not having this issue with Ubuntu 14.04 until very recently
[01:49] <netlar> Blue1: I know, was not even trying copy paste in terminal, just in the applications
[01:49] <struhevol> what the google quire for that bashrc for admin to be able to see the changes
[01:50] <Blue1> netlar: let's try something easy -- copy and paste this text. ctrl+a highlight's all the text -- ctrl+c to copy, then ctrl+v to paste
[01:50] <Kapowza> ObrienDave - thanks. is there a site that might guide me through the steps? or is there a term i should be Googling to find out how?
[01:50] <netlar> Blue1: it will not even let me highligth the text
[01:51] <netlar> Blue1: I highlight the text than it blinks off the text
[01:52] <ObrienDave> Kapowza, for an alias, edit .bash_aliases with any txt editor, reopen terminal and run the command
[01:52] <netlar> Something appears to be corrupted, but I have no idea how to fix it
[01:52] <ObrienDave> Kapowza, separate commands with && so it stops on errors
[01:53] <Blue1> struhevol: if you are trying to make chanages to admins .bashrc then you need to login as root the cd /root then make changes as appropriate
[01:53] <Elimin8er> anyone good at using toolchains, Please take a look at this and tell me what I did wrong: its the paste from a failed compile: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10836245/ ?? I might be in wrong channel but I have tried everywhere else.. I just thought I would try here too.
[01:53] <Kapowza> where do i find the .bash_aliases file
[01:53] <ObrienDave> Kapowza, your home directory, you might have to enable "show hidden files"
[01:54] <Bashing-om> struhevol: .bashrc is just a text file. If you made changes, - and saved that file - then it is changed ... note the (.) makes the file a hidden file .
[01:54] <ObrienDave> Kapowza, ^^^
[01:54] <struhevol> i know its a text file
[01:54] <Blue1> Kapowza: ~/home/.bashrc_aliases
[01:54] <struhevol> in the text file i did figlet anything
[01:55] <Blue1> Kapowza: http://pkill-9.com/enabling-bash_aliases/
[01:57] <netlar> Think I found the issue
[01:58] <Blue1> netlar: what did you find?
[01:58] <netlar> Only appears to happen when I open good chrome
[01:58] <netlar> Google chrome that is
[01:59] <Blue1> yeah not menu shortcuts there must use ctrl+c and ctrl+v
[01:59] <netlar> When I close Chrome , the problem does not exist
[01:59] <netlar> Blue1: huh?
[01:59] <struhevol_> so there is no way for the admin to see the changes in bashrc unless i am logged in as root is that correct
[01:59] <Blue1> netlar: tht is weird
[01:59] <netlar> Blue1: must be some kind of conflict , not sure
[02:00] <Bashing-om> struhevol: You edited the .bachrc file as 'root'; who owns the file now ? -> ls -al .bashrc >> -rw-r--r-- 1 sysop sysop 3749 Aug 4 2014 .bashrc // Where my user name is sysop.
[02:00] <Blue1> struhevol_: partily correct -- you have to be logged in as root, but the changes must be made to .bashrc in /root too
[02:00] <xangua> netlar: maybe an addon, like pushbullet¿ that syncs with your android clipboard
[02:01] <netlar> xangua: Yes I do have pushbullet on chrome
[02:01] <Blue1> struhevol_: so su - then cd /root -- make your changes
[02:02] <Blue1> struhevol_: note the changes you make to root, do NOT carry over to any other user.
[02:03] <struhevol_> bash: -rw-r--r--: Permission denied
[02:03] <netlar> xangua: Yep, that was it, I took it off of Chrome , no more problem
[02:03] <struhevol_> thats what i got
[02:03] <Blue1> struhevol_: private message ok?
[02:04] <struhevol_> i did this as root ls -al .bashrc >> -rw-r--r-- 1
[02:04] <hiexpo> struhevol_, why are you asking same ? in kali what distro are you useing?
[02:04] <struhevol_> and got this
[02:04] <struhevol_> bash: -rw-r--r--: Permission denied
[02:05] <hiexpo> struhevol_, use su he said
[02:07] <struhevol_> does the distro matters hiexpo
[02:07] <Blue1> struhevol_: http://pkill-9.com/the-difference-between-su-and-su/
[02:07] <hiexpo> stackfault, yes
[02:07] <struhevol_> i figure the kali channel might know more
[02:07] <struhevol_> i am using ubuntu
[02:07] <Blue1> struhevol_: well then -- off you go
[02:08] <struhevol_> thank you so much for the path
[02:10] <struhevol_> omg what did i get my self into
[02:10] <struhevol_> why is it so bad to run as root any ??
[02:11] <technickul> If I have an application that I didn't install via software center how to get it to show up when I hit the command button and then search?
[02:12] <struhevol_> this is so cool i did the su - and now i see the changes
[02:12] <struhevol_> how can i make the admin see the changes without doing su -
[02:13] <xangua> technickul: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[02:14] <CODE> please i am not able to use aircrack on my terminal
[02:14] <CODE> dont know what may be the cause
[02:15] <hiexpo> struhevol_, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/52268/why-is-it-a-bad-idea-to-run-as-root
[02:16] <Bashing-om> struhevol_: There is no such thing as an admin account, The 1st user created may gain administrative authority with the 'sudo' mechanisin(s) . // /root belongs to 'root' and no others have access - unless you with the elevated privileges make it where you can access..
[02:16] <ObrienDave> !root | struhevol_
[02:17] <bulka> hi
[02:17] <technickul> xangua: thank you for pointing me in the right direction! :)
[02:17] <bulka> I have got an ubuntu server, I am running a web application on 8069 port but can't access that on my browser, any help?
[02:18] <struhevol_> thanks for the class on su and su -
[02:18] <struhevol_> it still does not solve the problem i have
[02:18] <struhevol_> how do i make the admin see the changes to the bashrc without typing su -
[02:18] <struhevol_> and logging in as root
[02:18] <struhevol_> i just dont get what i did wrong
[02:19] <deadmund> bulka: What happens when you point your browser at localhost:8069 on that machine?
[02:19] <xangua> (21:18:45) struhevol_: and logging in as root - there is a clue
[02:19] <bulka> deadmund: This webpage is not available
[02:20] <struhevol_> i know the root password
[02:20] <struhevol_> i know the admin password
[02:20] <struhevol_> i am the owner
[02:20] <Bashing-om> struhevol_: No one has access to /root , except 'root' .
[02:20] <deadmund> bulka: what browser are you using and _exactly_ what message is it giving you. It may not seem like it but "webpage is not available" is ambiguous.
[02:22] <Bashing-om> struhevol_: -> sudo ls -al /root/.bashrc >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3106 Oct 27 2012 /root/.bashrc . As you can see, 'root' is the owner .
[02:22] <linuxlue> Can i update from Ubuntu 15.04 beta to stable, or will I have to do a reinstall when the stable image comes out?
[02:22] <bulka> deadmund: I am not using application on localhost but on a_public_ip:8069, Chrome says "webpage is not available", firefox says "Unable to connect"
[02:22] <xangua> linuxlue: yes, keep updates; also for 15.04 please use #ubuntu+1
[02:23] <Bashing-om> struhevol_: Who can access what : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions .
[02:23] <linuxlue> xangua: My bad, but thank you
[02:23] <deadmund> bulka: In firefox "unable to connect" means it cannot access a web server at that ip:port Either there isn't a web server listening there, or there is a firewall / network config problem. bulka can you test with a browser on the server directly?
[02:24] <deadmund> bulka: Can you see your web server process running on the server using ps -e ??
[02:24] <struhevol_> bashing what is date for do i need to include that
[02:26] <bulka> deadmund: yes it is running , 2015-04-17 02:25:47,739 10094 INFO ? openerp.service.server: HTTP service (werkzeug) running on <IP_ADDRESS>:8069
[02:26] <Bashing-om> struhevol_: Thedate is the last ime the file was modified/accessed . The point here is permissions .. no one but 'root' has access to any thing in the /root directory .
[02:26] <bulka> checked with ps -e also
[02:26] <deadmund> bulka: mmm, are you running a firewall? What is your network like?
[02:27] <bulka> deadmund: didn't get, the internet connection I am using?
[02:27] <deadmund> bulka: Do you have a router? (like a typical home setup)
[02:29] <bulka> deadmund: yes I do have
[02:30] <bulka> deadmund: but I can access same application running on different ubuntu server on my browser, so I believe there is something wrong with my ubuntu server
[02:30] <bulka> something in server is blocking me to access application
[02:31] <deadmund> bulka: You're going to have to explain your setup in more detail. But I'm guessing you need to do port forwarding on your router (you need to forward port 8069 to the ip address of your server & port 8069
[02:31] <deadmund> bulka: I don't know what you mean by "application" It seems to me there is the browser (firefox / chrome) and the server (the web server). There is no applicaiton.
[02:35] <bulka> deadmund: yes you are right, I mean there is another web server which I can access on my browser ( so it doesn't seem issue with port forwarding or with my router). if result of iptables -L can tell something? http://pastebin.com/tN2uZnzw
[02:36] <bulka> deadmund: I mean I am missing some configuration on webserver
[02:36] <bulka> it may be firewall in ubuntu server
[02:36] <deadmund> bulka: Webserver number 1 (is working) attached to ip1:8069 Webserver number 2 (is not working) attached to ?:?
[02:38] <bulka> deadmund: there are two webservers? :O
[02:38] <bulka> deadmund: may be I also installed nginx
[02:39] <deadmund> bulka: What ip and port is each webserver listening on (they're on the same machine?)
[02:40] <bulka> deadmund: well the thing is webserver number 1 is running on 8069 but not accessible from outside (no idea why ? may be port is closed?) webserver 2 is nginx that I have setup for reverse proxy , following this post https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/install-odoo-formerly-openerp-with-nginx-on-an-ubuntu-vps/
[02:41] <bulka> deadmund: yes they are on same machine 1st is listening on <IP_ADDRESS>:8069
[02:41] <bulka> 2nd may be on port 80? (nginx)
[02:42] <deadmund> bulka: I'm not sure what the problem is if it isn't a network config issue.
[02:42] <deadmund> bulka: Maybe your ISP is blocking non standard ports (8069 is def non-standard)
[02:42] <deadmund> but 80 is very standard
[02:43] <TiK> bulka: did you forward a a port oin your router?
[02:43] <bulka> deadmund: I am sure about ISP , it is not blocking as I have already accessed on many other ports including 8069
[02:43] <deadmund> bulka: Then I have no idea.
[02:43] <TiK> bulka: did you forward the port on your router?
[02:43] <bulka> Tik I think no, but I Am checking, just 1 min pls
[02:44] <bulka> deadmund: thanks for your time
[02:44] <bulka> :)
[02:45] <TiK> bulka: its <IP_ADDRESS> usually
[02:45] <TiK> gnight
[02:47] <bulka> Tik, can't access <IP_ADDRESS> :s
[02:48] <TiK> bulka: try <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:49] <bulka> Tik, deosn't work, ifconfig gives me inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:49] <bulka> on trying that, I get nginx is running
[02:49] <TiK> thts your computers ip not your routers ip
[02:50] <TiK> bulka: just forward the port on your router... done.
[02:53] <sillyplus> \help
[02:54] <bulka> Tik: no port forwarding is done
[02:55] <bulka> Tik: why should I forward port on my router? I want to access it from any internet connection
[02:56] <TiK> forward port 8064 or whatever to your local ip
[02:56] <TiK> anyway im out bed4me
[02:57] <ronkrt> In ubuntu. How do i take a directory and add all its sub dirs and files into a zip but leave then there?
[02:57] <ronkrt> Then = them
[03:12] <ronkrt> Got it
[03:20] <Guest26774> hey
[03:20] <Guest26774> im here
[03:20] <Guest26774> im queere
[03:21] <Guest26774> how do i change my nick
[03:22] <Dr_Dan> try /nick (new nick)
[03:23] <JayThomas> F yeah thx mang
[03:25] <JayThomas> i just installed my nvidia graphics drivers and was getting a 32bit open gl message and just solved it playing CS GO now i just had to tell someone how excited i was to figure out that problem
[03:25] <JayThomas> common problem but it was hard solution for me at least
[03:45] <SomeDuude> hey guys
[03:45] <SomeDuude> anyone would mine helping me ?
[03:45] <SomeDuude> mind
[03:46] <Ben64> you need to ask your question to find out
[03:47] <SomeDuude> all right well.... ive installed ubuntu once.. i removed it... and now my USB drive that im using to boot from.... doesnt seems to be bootable anymore....
[03:48] <SomeDuude> well
[03:49] <SomeDuude> i guess nobody can help lol..
[03:50] <lasers> SomeDuude: Maybe you accidentally installed grub to the USB instead of the hard drive. It happens.
[03:50] <Ben64> lasers: he left, i guess he didn't want to wait more than 2 minutes to solve his problem
[03:51] <JayThomas> pew pew im a laser
[03:56] <sheer> Is there something I should do after installing Ubuntu to ensure system is clean?
[03:56] <cfhowlett> sheer, you just installed it. it's clean.
[03:56] <sheer> I meant, to ensure it remains clean.
[03:57] <cfhowlett> sheer, add another account with normal, i.e. non-admin privileges. that should be your daily driver. use the admin account for admin stuff. Only my suggestion, YMMV
[03:59] <asarch> Is this bad? http://paste.scsys.co.uk/472826
[03:59] <asarch> # 2 Extended offline Completed: read failure 70% 9183 70285723
[03:59] <asarch> From smartctl -t short /dev/sda
[04:00] <cfhowlett> asarch, as I read it, it seems to suggest some failures. consider your replacement options ... and back up your backups immediately.
[04:00] <asarch> Thank you
[04:01] <asarch> Thank you very much
[04:05] <Nothing_Much> My USB drive is located under the devices in Nautilus, but it then opens up a 4.0 GB Volume after I click on it, why can't I just use the USB drive on its own?
[04:06] <Nothing_Much> My USB drive is located under the devices in Nautilus, but it then opens up a 4.0 GB Volume after I click on it, why can't I just use the USB drive on its own?
[04:15] <sheer> does anyone know of a text editor with an automatic date/time stamp for entries
[04:19] <Nothing_Much> http://i.imgur.com/rwSsXjx.png?1 Why does this happen and how do I fix it?
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:26] <boa> morning?
[04:36] <rockstar_> any suggestion for free sports game in ubuntu platform?
[04:36] <cfhowlett> rockstar_, suggest you look in the software center for games
[04:36] <Jman85> or i suggest you apply for a credit card
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> !behelpfull | Jman85
[04:38] <cfhowlett> rockstar_, also: steam has many "free to play" games
[05:00] <asarch> After doing a sudo smartctl -t long /dev/sda, how can I check the results?
[05:01] <boa> wouldnt it outpuit it your terminal
[05:06] <boa> you could also just echo it to a file
[05:07] <boa> 'sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdc'
[05:07] <boa> https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/SMART_tests_with_smartctl#Viewing_the_Test_Results
[05:08] <asarch> It's about to die, isn't it? http://paste.scsys.co.uk/472827
[05:09] <boa> seems likely
[05:09] <boa> i mean it's a seagate
[05:09] <boa> i avoid them like the plague
[05:09] <asarch> Oh :-(
[05:09] <boa> ive had 4 die int he last 1.5 years
[05:09] * asarch whispers "Damn it!"
[05:09] <asarch> :'-(
[05:10] <boa> wd > *
[05:10] <asarch> My pr0n...
[05:10] <boa> http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/hard-drive-survival-rate-in-months-hitachi-seagate-wd.jpg
[05:11] <asarch> Holy...!
[05:11] <boa> hitach is owned by wd
[05:12] <ianorlin> actually isn't it just the hard drive technology
[05:12] <boa> read the study for more info
[05:14] <jason__> yeah, keep in mind that chart is not under typical usage conditions
[05:14] <boa> https://www.backblaze.com/blog/best-hard-drive/
[05:15] <boa> ive just had terrible luck with seagate drive, every one ive owned has been rma'd at least once
[05:15] <Ben64> damn
[05:17] <asarch> Thank you boa
[05:18] <jason__> I've never had any kind of hard drive fail
[05:18] <asarch> Thank you very much :-)
[05:18] <asarch> Let's start the exodus
[05:18] <boa> damn gta dl's slow
[05:19] <TheTofu> How do I uninstall the default browser so I can put Internet Explorer on here?
[05:19] <boa> um, this is linux
[05:20] <TheTofu> Yeah, but I want to use a good browser. Not this Chroma thingy.
[05:20] <boa> you do realie ie is a windows program right
[05:20] <boa> that isnt even being worked on anymore, ms abandoned it
[05:20] <Ben64> !browser | TheTofu pick one
[05:20] <jason__> if you really need to use internet explorer you can run a virtual machine or maybe wine.
[05:20] <boa> i dont see the obsession with ie
[05:22] <jason__> You could potentially need to develop something that needs to support internet explorer I guess. I have never met anyone who prefers IE.
[05:23] <boa> if you're developing for windows/ms you're prob not using linux
[05:25] <TheTofu> I see. I'll try and make do. I'm already struggling to carry on with my aspirations to be a graphic designer without paint.
[05:25] <ianorlin> you can run ie in a vm
[05:25] <boa> why are you using linux if you're doing graphic design
[05:25] <jason__> ah okay TheTofu is just a troll
[05:25] <boa> just go back to osx
[05:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Why doesn't Ubuntu additionally have an rolling release?
[05:28] <somsip> Us3r_Unfriendly: a bit out of date, but I understand the response is stil valid http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1228
[05:49] <ki7mt> What'
[05:50] <ki7mt> whoops .. sorry, what's the url for image-bin stuff ?
[05:55] <ki7mt> NVM, I found it .. can't believe I didn't have that one bookmarked.
[05:57] <pc-moon__> hello , i have my pc is hp pavilion 500 series have intel hd 4000 graphics drive how can i make it multi display like in windows , thank you
[05:57] <Blue1> I have never done multi display sorry.
[05:58] <pc-moon__> ok
[05:58] <pc-moon__> i have windows and working well in windows
[05:58] <pc-moon__> may can i found someway
[06:07] <Gallomimia> greetings. i seem to be having some trouble running the installer. i’m using ubuntu 14.04 server installer, and i’ve had some moderate success in getting that to run. tripped on a few things and going to run it again. but now, every time i boot into the installer, the keyboard quits working right at the part where it asks you what type of keyboard you have. (just past grub) what in the world is going wrong for me? perhaps i’ve messed
[06:07] <Gallomimia> something in the bios?
[06:17] <wafflejock> pc-moon, same chipset and it works fine here for multi-display for two externals, if I try hooking up two externals plus using the built in monitor then things go haywire
[06:18] <wafflejock> pc-moon, seems to be true with KDE, Unity or Gnome they always get a CRTC-65 error if I try to run all three displays, typically just have to go the display settings and turn on/enable the external though
[06:19] <wafflejock> currently using 1 VGA and 1 HDMI out of my laptop though and all is well with this setup
[06:19] <wafflejock> no idea what that CRTC error is all about but don't care enough about also having the laptop monitor at the same time to do anything about it
[06:21] <wafflejock> Gallomimia, you can try ctrl+alt+f1 to see if you can get to a terminal and if the GUI just froze, alternatively try an external keyboard if it's a laptop
[06:22] <shiggitay> hello all... I managed to install a Ubuntu-based OS, but my BayTrail tablet only has 32bit uEFI firmware, and I think the installer installed 64 bit grub... and it's not booting... I say Ubuntu-based because it's "Elementary OS: Freya" that's based on 14.04. I did ask in their channel but no one is responding.
[06:22] <shiggitay> All I'm asking for help with is Grub
[06:22] <shiggitay> so it can boot
[06:24] <shiggitay> Could someone tell me what pkg to install once I'm chrooted into my install?
[06:25] <shiggitay> Anyone?
[06:27] <wafflejock> shiggitay, This is a problem if 32-bit UEFI is the only way your computer can boot, e.g. if you have a modern Intel Atom based laptop. In this case, you will need a complicated work-around.
[06:27] <wafflejock> shiggitay, found that here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[06:27] <shiggitay> THanks
[06:27] <wafflejock> shiggitay, not familiar with the intricacies of 32-bit vs 64-bit grub so can't help much aside from pointing you at that or other basic grub re-install stuff
[06:28] <shiggitay> thanks :)
[06:28] <shiggitay> would I need to be chrooted ?
[06:29] <shiggitay> wafflejock,
[06:29] <wafflejock> np with regard to the grub-install instructions I've seen they typical start with boot from live cd setup some chroot but yeah really not good for the uefi stuff I know an Eric in here knows it well but don't think he's around now
[06:29] <wafflejock> shiggitay, ^
[06:30] <shiggitay> Eric__,
[06:30] <shiggitay> *slap* lol
[06:30] <wafflejock> yeah think he typically goes by ^Eric^ or some such but have seen him guide some people through all the UEFI debugging
[06:31] <shiggitay> heh
[06:40] <Gallomimia> wafflejock: the solution was to plug keyboard into usb3
[06:40] <Gallomimia> now i’m having trouble where the installer doesn’t have the files to make a crytpo fs. it had them the first time i ran thru the installer. what happened? did the installer delete files off itself?
[06:41] <Gallomimia> i guess i need to reflash the usb-key. wtf…
[06:45] <k2gremlin> Anyone here have experiance with Plex through Squid with outside access?
[06:45] <k2gremlin> I have a Ubuntu plex server on a VM that is connected on the vSwitch to another Ubuntu VM running Squid transparent. Squid Server is using 2 connections. WAN and LAN obviously. Plex works great on my LAN, but I am unable to access my server from the outside. Plex server has no problem reaching the internet to pull data for media. Can ping out the whole nine yards. I just cant access from outside.
[06:45] <k2gremlin> I have the following rules in my iptables. http://pastebin.com/mFKa7DMz Still not able to reach the plex server from outside my LAN. Thoughts anyone?
[06:46] <k2gremlin> Those rules I have tried on both servers at the same time. Still not working
[06:50] <k2gremlin> anyone? lol
[06:54] <vonsyd0w> im not too familiar with squid, but anything in its (and iptables) logs that would provide some input?
[06:54] <JamesBong> hi there
[06:55] <GLB> ELO
[06:55] <JamesBong> quick qustion, which file in etc tells you the ubuntu release installed?
[06:55] <GLB> WHat
[06:56] <vonsyd0w> "/etc/issue/"
[06:56] <JamesBong> vonsyd0w: thx
[07:01] <geirha> JamesBong: LSB-compliant distros will have an lsb_release command. Try ''lsb_release -a''. I wouldn't rely on /etc/issue
[07:09] <vonsyd0w> curious to why you cant rely on it? all of the major distros use it
[07:10] <vonsyd0w> and he specifically said ubuntu, which it'll be there
[07:16] <foofoobar> Hi. I’m building a docker image based on ubuntu:trusty. Doing an apt-get update and then installing python and some libs. I get: E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python-urllib3/python-urllib3_1.7.1-1ubuntu0.1_all.deb 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[07:16] <foofoobar> How to solve this?
[07:17] <foofoobar> cmd is apt-get install -y python python-dev python-distribute python-pip libjpeg-dev libjpeg8-dev libpng3 libfreetype6-dev libmysqlclient-dev
[07:32] <wafflejock> Gallomimia, glad you got that first part sorted, not sure about the crypto stuff though never encrypt my drives just have encrypted password storage
[07:32] <Gallomimia> im reading another page that mentions problems with my mobo’s bios
[07:32] <Gallomimia> and workarounds involving the mounting of the usb stick itself
[07:35] <wafflejock> foofoobar, looks like that file is no longer there, apparently something out of date in the package listings http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python-urllib3/ maybe can install the appropriate .deb here manually
[07:36] <foofoobar> wafflejock: How can this happen in the public repository? It’s bad because I’m doing this in a docker image to automate this process.
[07:36] <foofoobar> I wonder how this fails now and worked yesterday.
[07:36] <wafflejock> foofoobar, yeah honestly no idea, I've never seen that from the main repos
[07:36] <wafflejock> foofoobar, it makes some sense when things are deprecated and fall from archive or some PPA but not the main repos
[07:37] <foofoobar> wafflejock: I have an idea. Docker uses caching for commands, maybe the apt-get update is cached
[07:37] <wafflejock> foofoobar, don't really do python myself though it's one of the few big languages I've never dabbled in
[07:39] <foofoobar> wafflejock: I think it was a docker related problem, sorry for taking your time.
[07:39] <wafflejock> ah no worries
[07:39] <foofoobar> the „apt-get update“ was cached while the „apt-get install“ was not.
[07:55] <Woodrag> somehow postgresql is running as the postfix user.... How can i correct this and make postgres running as the postgres user like it should be.,..?
[07:58] <nashant> Hey, I'm trying to use xrandr to add a mode of 2560x1440 but I keep getting failed to get gamma errors. Anyone got an idea how to fix this/
[08:05] <aschildbach> Hi everyone!
[08:21] <arcsky> i have some class mates on my server. how can i disable so they cant do ls /home/arcsky ?
[08:25] <TheNumb> arcsky: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/user-management.html
[08:25] <snkcld> when i have a full screen app in a workspace, but then move to another space, the full screen app minimizes
[08:25] <snkcld> any way i can prevent that from happening?
[08:25] <TheNumb> arcsky: "User Profile Security"
[08:25] <TheNumb> arcsky: you're welcome.
[08:25] <Woodrag> how can i decide to run postgresql as another user under ubuntu
[08:25] <TheNumb> Woodrag: probably need to modify the init script.
[08:25] <TheNumb> If you want to start is using upstart.
[08:26] <Woodrag> TheNumb: /etc/init.d/postgresql ?
[08:29] <danfruehauf> So, one of our servers got compromised
[08:29] <danfruehauf> And I decided to come here and try and brainstorm with people what might have happened
[08:29] <Ben64> impossible to tell really, format, reinstall, pay more attention to security
[08:29] <danfruehauf> I got the image of the VM and I've found an admin112 account with uid 0 and gid 0 in /etc/passwd
[08:29] <danfruehauf> Na na, hold on mate
[08:29] <danfruehauf> The server is gone
[08:29] <danfruehauf> I'm trying to understand the attack vector
[08:30] <aschildbach> I wonder has anyone upgraded to Vivid RC and like me cannot switch to the correct keyboard layout any more?
[08:30] <Flannel> aschildbach: You'd want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:30] <Ben64> danfruehauf: yeah, and i'm telling you its not worth it and you can't trust anything on it
[08:30] <danfruehauf> Interestingly I've found this in auth.log: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/212183/92594261/
[08:30] <aschildbach> Ah thanks, Ill switch to that channel
[08:31] <danfruehauf> Ben64, I think the attacked is a bit slack, and I'm not trusting much on that image
[08:31] <Snak3> hi
[08:31] <danfruehauf> The thing is that I do not believe he managed to login via SSH as it's only key logins and probably didn't manage to get in via HTTP
[08:31] <TheNumb> danfruehauf: which services was it running btw?
[08:32] <Ben64> danfruehauf: so format... reinstall... pay more attention to security...
[08:32] <Snak3> is it possible to have light in mousepad
[08:32] <Snak3> (text editor)
[08:32] <TheNumb> light?
[08:32] <TheNumb> what do you mean?
[08:32] <danfruehauf> TheNumb, Strictly only SSH and apache, it's running ubuntu 12.04
[08:32] <danfruehauf> Anything else - closed
[08:32] <Snak3> yeah in css if i forget a "}" i want an alert visual with red color
[08:33] <anon_> hey guys im really excited!
[08:33] <nashant> Hey, I'm getting xrandr errors of failed to get gamma when trying to addmode 2560x1440
[08:33] <danfruehauf> Ben64, I understand what you're saying, but if I don't understand the attack vector, chances are more of my servers will be compromised shortly
[08:33] <Ben64> danfruehauf: if that log can be trusted, they logged in at console, so physically
[08:33] <TheNumb> yeah
[08:33] <danfruehauf> Ben64, Because they are running exactly the same and they are fully patched
[08:33] <TheNumb> Snak3: I'm not sure if it support syntax highlighting.
[08:34] <Ben64> but the logs can't be trusted, so the whole thing is worthless
[08:34] <danfruehauf> Now I'm not going to trust that log, but I'm fully patched (usually) and I suspect the cloud provider is more slack than me
[08:34] <TheNumb> danfruehauf: maybe the host is compromised
[08:34] <TheNumb> Have you checked that?
[08:34] <danfruehauf> TheNumb, The hypervisor you mean?
[08:34] <Snak3> TheNumb,:/
[08:34] <TheNumb> yes
[08:34] <danfruehauf> Yeah, I have no control of the hypervisor
[08:34] <danfruehauf> It's running in a different university by different people
[08:35] <danfruehauf> They just told me "your host is compromised", here is the VM dump
[08:35] <danfruehauf> I suspected it's a bit bigger than that
[08:35] <Ben64> get a better host
[08:35] <TheNumb> Snak3: maybe it only supports *some* languages.
[08:35] <danfruehauf> And I think I can alert them about it, no?
[08:35] <danfruehauf> Ben64, I'm working also on that, we're .edu :)
[08:35] <Ben64> i don't really see how speculation is on topic here though
[08:35] <TheNumb> danfruehauf: which host btw?
[08:35] <TheNumb> Ben64: yeah, that too :<
[08:35] <danfruehauf> TheNumb, They are running some openstack and crap. It's complete bullcrap, but I have to put up with that
[08:36] <danfruehauf> Put it this way, I wouldn't be surprised if the hypervisor is compromised
[08:36] <TheNumb> well, openstack is really great if you know how to manage that.
[08:37] <danfruehauf> These guys there, are... meh
[08:37] <TheNumb> danfruehauf: I think this discussion fits #ubuntu-offtopic better.
[08:37] <danfruehauf> Anyway, I think that's good enough
[08:38] <danfruehauf> Thanks for listening
[08:41] <Woodrag> how do i run postgresql as another user ?
[08:44] <BriskBard_usuari> hi
[08:51] <mircx1> Hello i need please help about error i get from ubuntu 10.04
[08:52] <mircx1> i try install something and i get error this my error http://pastebin.com/sFDiS8uh
[08:52] <mircx1> if someone can please tell to me what i need to install
[08:54] <xrfang> how to inform a program run through ssh to quit when the ssh connection break?
[08:54] <ebonics> xrfang, is the program a daemon
[08:54] <mircx1> someone?
[08:55] <arcsky> i did chmod -R 700 /home/user and now all files are green
[08:56] <xrfang> ebonics: the program I want to run is php -S, i.e. PHP internal web server
[08:57] <xrfang> if you run it on command line it will not return and prompt you to press Ctrl-C to quit
[08:58] <ebonics> xrfang, since it's not a daemon it will close by itself when you exit your ssh client
[08:58] <xrfang> ebonics: no it does not
[08:58] <geoaxis> hello, any one running snappy on raspberry pi
[08:58] <MonkeyDust> xrfang if you work with ssh alot, consider using 'screen' ... it's a terminale layer you can interrupt, with interrupting the running command, e.g. ssh
[08:59] <xrfang> the command line I run is like: ssh -p 39101 -L 8080:localhost:2651<EMAIL_ADDRESS>/usr/local/bin/adminer.sh
[08:59] <xrfang> adminer.sh is a shell script runs the php db management interface
[09:00] <xrfang> MonkeyDust, will screen help to kill remote process when ssh quit?
[09:02] <MonkeyDust> xrfang not sure, but you could try to add a line in adminer.sh, so it quits, when the ssh connection quits
[09:05] <MonkeyDust> xrfang or write a small script, that makes adminer.sh quits, when the ssh connection quits
[09:05] <ebonics> xrfang, it would probably help if you show the adminer.sh code
[09:06] <MonkeyDust> (i'm not a coder myself, i can make simple bash scripts, that's all)
[09:13] <xrfang> ebonics, the script is very simple:
[09:13] <xrfang> 1 #!/bin/bash
[09:13] <xrfang> 2 php -S localhost:2651 /usr/local/bin/adminer-4.2.1-en.php
[09:13] <xrfang> ~
[09:17] <mircx1> Hello there?
[09:17] <mircx1> please help
[09:17] <MonkeyDust> xrfang is this useful http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20743793/how-to-detect-when-ssh-connection-over-a-qprocess-has-finished
[09:17] <mircx1> i try install something and i get error this my error http://pastebin.com/sFDiS8uh
[09:18] <aagaard> I get this error when upgrading postgres-9.4: Can't locate PgCommon.pm @INC... I'm not a Perl expert, so how to I add PgCommon to my includes?
[09:20] <LordFoobar> hi, I have installed postgresql-9.4 and pgadmin3 (v1.18), both from the official repositories, on Ubuntu 14.10... unfortunately, pgadmin3 is not compatible with the latest pgSQL!! How do I install pgadmin 1.20... which is released, but not available in the repositories??
[09:20] <MonkeyDust> xrfang or this, but better ask in #ubuntu-app-devel, i guess http://askubuntu.com/questions/538453/how-do-i-detect-if-the-current-session-is-an-ssh-session-via-bash
[09:22] <mircx1> why someone no help to me?
[09:23] <MonkeyDust> !patience | mircx1
[09:23] <mijkoo> hello all, I am trying to create gnupg keys via seahorse, but nothing happens after I complete everything and press OK
[09:23] <mircx1> what ignore
[09:23] <mircx1> i ask some times
[09:23] <mircx1> about error
[09:23] <mircx1> MonkeyDust
[09:24] <Ben64> mircx1: calm down
[09:24] <MonkeyDust> mircx1 it's possible that nobody knows the answer... that happens
[09:24] <mijkoo> a window used to appear showing the process that the key was being created. has it been removed?
[09:25] <mircx1> i need install in ubuntu 10.04 apt-get install libre2-dev and i no have this how i can install that?
[09:25] <MonkeyDust> mircx1 10.04 is dead, as in: not breathing anymore
[09:26] <ZadYree> Hey there :)
[09:28] <mijkoo> hello all, I cannot create gnupg keys via seahorse, can you help me please?
[09:29] <LordFoobar> found my solution : http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/
[09:30] <geirha> ah they have their own official apt repo. Good.
[09:30] <ZadYree> I've got a problem with any usb mouse I am trying to use on my laptop: it doesn't work at all and produces some kind of core dump: http://hastebin.com/osegeqezij.md
[09:30] <ZadYree> (in the dmesg)
[09:33] <N0Lif3> does the official Ubuntu installer work like a live cd or is it just an installer? I know Linux Mint's installation disc is a live cd
[09:33] <ZadYree> Is it common?
[09:33] <DJones> N0Lif3: Its a live dvd/usb
[09:34] <N0Lif3> DJones, does Ubuntu's sidebar behave like Windows 7 taskbar? Can it be modified to act that way? In Win7, you launch programs by clicking the program icon and the icon becomes a tab for that program.
[09:35] <N0Lif3> I played around with that in Linux Mint and there is a plugin for the toolbar that makes it like Win7's taskbar, but it doesn't have all the features and polish that Win7's taskbar has for it
[09:35] <N0Lif3> and thanks, I will try it out.
[09:36] <N0Lif3> Linux Mint with Cinnamon, specifically
[09:38] <aschildbach> I noticed the --all option is gone from dpkg-reconfigure. Whats the replacement? I want to reconfigure all packages because I suspect my configuration is broken after an update.
[09:38] <mijkoo> hello all, I cannot create gnupg keys via seahorse, can you help me please? also there are other strange things with keyfiles
[09:40] * rasul slap sahar
[09:41] <N0Lif3> I'm really curious to know if I can make Ubuntu or another distro more like Windows 7 than in Mint. I just really like how Win7's taskbar operates.
[09:41] <N0Lif3> http://a.pomf.se/ghggxx.webm
[09:42] <N0Lif3> a little video showing how I modified linux mint to look like win7, pretty close
[09:43] <SomeT> so my college is asking me to use Ubuntu with NAT setup on the network, I already have the internet running on it via my network by setting the proxy as automatic (as I do with other devices in my house) am I right to think that NAT as already been setup?
[09:52] <explodes> Alright i'll chat from this comp
[09:53] <SomeT> if I have ubuntu on virtual box, I type ifconfig on internal network, it only shows external IP address not internal ip address e.g. 192.168.0 etc...
[09:53] <aschildbach> How can I reconfigure all packages?
[09:55] <explodes> SomeT: I think if you're using a bridge, that is correct IIRC
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> aschildbach try dpkg -a --configure
[09:56] <aschildbach> MonkeyDust: it doesnt REconfigure
[09:56] <aschildbach> it just configures packages that are not configured yet
[09:57] <MonkeyDust> aschildbach scroll down http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/dpkg-reconfigure.8.html
[09:57] <aschildbach> yeah but --all was removed from dpkg-reconfigure
[09:59] <aschildbach> MonkeyDust: dpkg-reconfigure -? doesnt show the --all option any more
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> aschildbach works fine here, just tried (but interrupted)
[09:59] <mijkoo> hello all, I cannot create gnupg keys via seahorse, can you help me please? also there are other strange things with keyfiles
[10:00] <aschildbach> MonkeyDust: What OS version are you on?
[10:00] <MonkeyDust> aschildbach 14.04.2
[10:00] <explodes> If I boot up into FreesDOS, can I "run" an .img under the boot> prompt somehow?
[10:00] <aschildbach> MonkeyDust: ok so it was removed in later versions
[10:00] <aschildbach> Ill try to get an answer from ubuntuplus1
[10:00] <MonkeyDust> aschildbach yes, it's #ubuntu+1
[10:01] <aschildbach> MonkeyDust: problem is nobody is there
[10:04] <explodes> ok, someone said "if the .iso is not a hybrid, you cannot boot it off of USB" where do i read/what do i search to find out more about "hybrid"
[10:04] <xrfang> thanks MonkeyDust
[10:04] <SomeT> nobody here?
[10:04] <SomeT> you do know people generally take a while to respond on irc
[10:04] <SomeT> have some patience :)
[10:05] <Notwang> Hi
[10:05] <Notwang> I can't bring up vlan and get following error
[10:05] <Notwang> Cannot find device "bts0.305"
[10:05] <Notwang> Failed to bring up bts0.305.
[10:06] <Notwang> bts0 is lacp of eth2 and eth3
[10:07] <Notwang> or how to debug it?
[10:35] <mijkoo> hello all, I cannot create gnupg keys via seahorse, can you help me please? also there are other strange things with keyfiles
[10:37] <cast> could always just gpg --gen-key
[10:37] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[10:50] <Guest91494> xvdf
[10:51] <ybl> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 14.04 on a xen Hypervisor AWS instance. I have a django REST server, serving at port 80, which I can access from 54.x.x.x:80 from the outside world. But my ejabberd server on port 5280 I can't access it from another machine. How do I expose it to the outside world. ( it works fine as I can access it from localhost:5280 using w3m)
[10:52] <somsip> ybl: have you opened it on your security group? This is offtopic for here by the way
[10:54] <ybl> Sorry, but I am really in a fix, and the guys on #xen are not active. Can you explain me a bit elaboratly ? Or maybe help me with pm ?
[10:54] <ybl> somsip: ^
[10:54] <somsip> ybl: you need to research more. Official docs http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/using-network-security.html
[10:55] <streulma> hello, if I'm on battery, the time of clock is to fast !
[10:56] <ybl> somsip: thanks. appreciated.
[11:01] <OerHeks> streulma, odd problem, check for biosupdates, check cmos battery
[11:04] <nerium> I’m trying to use gdb to debug an application which has the +s flag set, but gdb seams to ignore the flag, why is that?
[11:05] <nerium> This results in a ”permission denied” error
mircx1 10.04 is dead, as in: not breathing anymore
[11:12] <Billias> hi guys
[11:12] <Billias> anybody experienced with preseed (partitioning)
[11:13] <mircx1> i have good news for you my friend this ok now
[11:13] <Billias> and girls*
[11:13] <mircx1> :)
[11:14] <Billias> I want to create a Volumegroup in multiple disks
[11:14] <Jeroen1> Hi, does anyone know how to restart my mysql? If I try to start it it says Job failed
[11:14] <Billias> using preseed
[11:15] <somsip> Jeroen1: check /etc/mysql/error.log to see what the problem is
[11:15] <somsip> /va/log/mysql/error.log - brain burp...
[11:16] <Jeroen1> cat /etc/mysql/error.log gives: No Suck file or directory
[11:17] <somsip> Jeroen1: see my correction. /var/log/mysql/error.log
[11:18] <Jeroen1> http://pastebin.com/3fJ1JWk8
[11:19] <Thesaurus> Is there a way to force a resolution (say 640x480 or 800x600) on unbutu gnome during a live CD boot? I have an Nvidia NVS 4200M which locks up with nouveau drivers. It's hard to install the distro and get to installing the proprietary drivers before my GPU locks up.
[11:19] <somsip> Jeroen1: did you read it?
[11:19] <Jeroen1> Yes, but says nothing to me.
[11:19] <Farioko> Can I force Ubuntu to install on a MBR partition table?
[11:19] <somsip> Jeroen1: InnoDB: Fatal error: cannot allocate memory for the buffer pool
[11:19] <cfhowlett> Farioko, you can ... but should you?
[11:20] <cfhowlett> Thesaurus, nomodeset
[11:20] <Farioko> cfhowlett: the bios didn't find any parition to boot from after installation
[11:20] <Jeroen1> Yeah somsip, I was Googling that. ;)
[11:20] <cfhowlett> Farioko, are you saying there IS a partition that bios doesn't see?
[11:21] <Farioko> chezzo_: yes
[11:21] <Jeroen1> I should change innodb_buffer_pool_size to a higher number?
[11:21] <Farioko> cfhowlett: yes
[11:22] <mijkoo> why has seahorse changed with 14.04.? strange things happening. keyfiles appear with older names, gnupg key creation is done invisibly (no window pops up)..
[11:22] <somsip> Jeroen1: it can't allocate the memory, so the buffer is likely too big. And that' smy last word on this as it really belogs in #mysql and I'm AFK now
[11:22] <cfhowlett> Farioko, force MBR is you must
[11:23] <Thesaurus> is there a way to get nomodeset into the grub boot line before a gnome LiveCD starts?
[11:23] <Farioko> cfhowlett: how?
[11:23] <k1l> mijkoo: changed from 12.04 version 3.2 to 14.04 version 3.10
[11:23] <cfhowlett> Thesaurus, you can invoke grub during the gnome boot up and pass the nomodeset options
[11:24] <Thesaurus> pageup pagedown? I just see the keyboard=human icon and then I'm booting into the live CD
[11:24] <Thesaurus> not sure when my window of chance is
[11:25] <OerHeks> Thesaurus, when you are at the poit: try or install, hit F6
[11:25] <mijkoo> k1l, yes, I say the same. it wasnt like this in 12.04. I see a different keyfile name on gui than the one in folder.
[11:25] <OerHeks> *point
[11:25] <cfhowlett> Thesaurus, f6 for special options
[11:25] <mijkoo> and I cannot change it
[11:25] <Thesaurus> ok thank you very much will give that a try
[11:25] <kDycu> I'm having a persistent issue with the sound not working on my 14.04 ubuntu desktop on boot. It appears to be system wide, and it
[11:26] <kDycu> *it'll usually fix itself if reboot a couple of times
[11:26] <kDycu> any ideas where to start?
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> kDycu in a terminal, type alsamixer do you see something disturbing? MM means mute
[11:28] <kDycu> currently the sound is working, so I don't know if that'd produce any interesting results
[11:29] <kDycu> not sure how to deliberately break it, unfortunately.
[11:31] <kDycu> was mostly wondering if anyone had any insight/prior knowledge of an ongoing problem similar to this
[11:32] <kDycu> if it were just for me, I'd work around the sound issue by restarting until it worked, but it's in service to a bunch of non-tech people
[11:32] <mulga> would anyone care to suggest a good introductory lvl book ok Linux Admin / Networking - O'Reilly publishing comes to mind??
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> mulga aks in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:33] <mulga> *ok=on
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> ask*
[11:33] <mulga> MonkeyDust, thnx, just did. np
[11:33] <kam270> can someone please devlop a GUI LVM app. It is driving us nuts trying to use LVM in an easy manner
[11:34] <kam270> now 14.04 desktop has the option during install to set up LVM . However there are not decent GUI tools
[11:35] <kam270> i think this is urgent as desktop users will come from windows knowing of "previous versions "
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> kam270 scroll down http://www.howtogeek.com/127246/linux-sysadmin-how-to-manage-lvms-with-a-gui/
[11:35] <OerHeks> !info system-config-lvm
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> kam270 asketh and thou shalt be answered
[11:36] <kam270> MonkeyDust, that tool doesnt work in 14.04 anymore
[11:38] <k1l> !away > zz_Thelks-at-wor
[11:40] <OerHeks> kam270, tool works fine.
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> kam270 true, the comment here states, that it doenst work anymore in "ubuntu 14", testing now myself
[11:41] <OerHeks> ..
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> kam270 on the other hand, lvm is usually used for servers, without gui
[11:44] <kam270> MonkeyDust, yeah but im on a laptop and want to be able to get back to a working system .
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> kam270 i have to follow OerHeks , works fine here
[11:45] <kam270> there are several reviews in the software center saying it doesnt work in 14.04
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> kam270 maybe patches heve been applied, since those remarks
[11:47] <kam270> Ok I will try again
[11:47] <kam270> need to log out . thanks
[11:47] <OerHeks> kam270, those bad reviews mention 13.10 or 14.04 beta. really ...
[11:48] <sabados> dsa
[11:48] <sabados> hello
[11:48] <Ajacobsson> does anyone know how to set up openssh to allow a connection to localhost without password authentication in as few lines as possible?
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> Ajacobsson add a RSA key
[11:50] <OerHeks> Ajacobsson, sure, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring and see the part 'Disable Password Authentication'which requires shh keys
[11:50] <OerHeks> *ssh keys
[11:53] <Ajacobsson> well, I've managed to screw that up somehow. "permission denied (pubkey)" is what I get when I try to ssh to the localhost after putting the pub key in authorized_keys. the private key can just stay in the .ssh-directory, right?
[11:54] <Ajacobsson> gonna start over from scratch and see if I cant get it to work this time
[11:54] <OerHeks> Ajacobsson, did you make ssh keys on the target machine?
[11:54] <Ajacobsson> yeah there's only one machine
[11:55] <kDycu> ooh okay got the sound to break
[11:55] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html#openssh-keys
[11:56] <dreuge> Hi all, I'm running ubuntu server 12.04, trying to add gcc-4.9 from ubuntu-toolchain-r/test repository. I've added the repository via add-apt-repository, but when trying to install, I get the error that it depends on libgcc-4.9-dev but it is not going to be installed
[11:56] <kDycu> when open alsamixer I get a "This sound device does not have any controls."
[11:56] <kDycu> ideas?
[11:56] <dreuge> anyone know what might be going on?
[11:56] <Ajacobsson> OerHeks: Im experimenting with a software called ansible in which I am to generate config templates for cisco switches/routers, but in order to do that ansible must be allowed to ssh to localhost without a password prompt
[11:58] <kam270> MonkeyDust, Im getting an error. It crashes on start up : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10838165/
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> Ajacobsson consider using vagrant, it's a command that helps you ssh to pre-configured virtualbox machines, so your own machine is safe http://www.vagrantbox.es/ and http://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/boxes.html
[11:59] <Ajacobsson> MonkeyDust: thank you
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> kam270 i'm not familiar enough with it, to give useful advice on that error
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> Ajacobsson and find plenty introducing vagrant clips on youtube
[12:02] <kam270> MonkeyDust, ok I have website that suggest a solution , will try and let you know
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> kam270 ok, hope you can solve the issue
[12:06] <sam[cOe]> Hi
[12:06] <sam[cOe]> I'm looking for a solution to launch personnal command in tab terminator
[12:08] <sam[cOe]> ok with "command" in config
[12:08] <Ajacobsson> so, this is what I've done after installing the openssh-server package via apt-get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10838198/
[12:09] <nalum> hello all, I'm trying to install libsdl1.2-dev on ubuntu 14.04 but it's saying I have unmet dependencies and won't install
[12:11] <nalum> it has also marked libgbm1 to be kept back
[12:16] <ioria> nalum "source" in repositories is selected ?
[12:16] <kam270_> MonkeyDust, yes this patch works : https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/system-config-lvm.git/commit/?id=c99d490707a8ccdc2f89d1dc062986b3d65649c1
[12:17] <nalum> ioria: it's partially checked, has the - rather than the checkmark
[12:18] <Jeroen1> Hi there, I can start my mysql database because of too low memory. How can I fix this? It has worked for months but something has changed that is giving problems now. How could I fix that. Does anyone have a clue?
[12:19] <svetlana> check your logs
[12:20] <ioria> nalum try to check it... (you can revert it)
[12:20] <nalum> ioria: just tried that and it keeps going from checked to partially checked
[12:21] <nalum> I'm assuming the Source Code checkbox in Software & Updates is what you are referring to
[12:21] <ioria> nalum no Synaptic
[12:22] <nalum> ah okay, will look at that now
[12:22] <svetlana> Jeroen1: if you check your logs and share the text of the error message yo get, someone might be able to give you more detailed help. there is a optimize table command in mysql which makes the database more compact.
[12:23] <Jeroen1> which log svetlana ?
[12:24] <svetlana> Jeroen1: mysql's log.
[12:24] <Jeroen1> http://pastebin.com/mYtUX62b
[12:24] <Jeroen1> Posted this one earlier :)
[12:25] <svetlana> (http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mYtUX62b is the same but without ads)
[12:25] <loa> Jeroen1, what version of mysql you have?
[12:25] * svetlana looks
[12:25] <nalum> ioria: where is the sources checkbox?
[12:25] <Jeroen1> I don't know loa :p
[12:26] <ioria> nalum Settings - Repositories
[12:26] <Jeroen1> can't check it too as I cannot get into the database.
[12:26] <svetlana> Jeroen1, "[ERROR] Unknown/unsupported storage engine: InnoDB" is not the same as it running out of memory. I would say you have to speak with loa and I personally would do a web search for this error.
[12:26] <nalum> that's the software & updates app I was in
[12:27] <Jeroen1> mysql Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.5.40, for debian-linux-gnu (x86_64) using readline 6.3
[12:27] <loa> Jeroen1, maybe it is not mysql?
[12:27] <loa> and you have another memory monster on your server?
[12:28] <Jeroen1> I don't know loa. Someone just told me to check the mysql.
[12:28] <ioria> nalum Synaptic Package Manager ? and you can't check "source code" ?
[12:28] <Jeroen1> Look
[12:28] <loa> try investigate you memory usage.
[12:28] <somsip> svetlana: previous line in error log is about being unable to allocate memory for innodb buffer. It's a my.cnf or memory issue and he's been told to go to #m,ysql already
[12:28] <svetlana> oh! missed that one. sorry.
[12:28] <Jeroen1> http://pastebin.com/BMrb3Xp0
[12:28] <Jeroen1> Top returns:
[12:29] <nalum> using synaptic package manager and opening settings -> repositories opens the Software & Updates app. I can uncheck Source Code and then check it again but it has the - rather than the checkmark
[12:31] <nalum> It looks like I'm able to install the keptback package using synaptic though, so I'm doing that. Will see if it fixes the issue
[12:32] <Jeroen1> loa, any Idea what I could od?
[12:33] <ioria> nalum i just installed it without issue
[12:35] <somsip> Jeroen1: your innodb_buffers are set too high for the memory you have. That is outside the scope of the support provided here. You need to research more yourself, or ask in #mysql.
[12:39] <kde_newbie> hi guys! how can i know from the command line if bluetooth is enabled?
[12:39] <cfhowlett> !bluetooth | kde_newbie
[12:42] <nalum> ioria: hmmm, once that kept back package installed libsdl installed fine thanks for the help
[12:42] <ioria> nalum np -^_^-
[12:43] <nalum> ioria: now for Dwarf Fortress :D
[12:43] <ioria> yep
[12:43] <nalum> or not :'(
[12:46] <ioria> nalum http://askubuntu.com/questions/469819/install-dwarf-fortress
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:46] <nalum> oh yeah, it needs the 32bit stuff. Thanks again ioria
[12:47] <ioria> np
[12:47] <nalum> ll
[12:47] <nalum> sorry wrong terminal
[12:49] <hkrrsx> morning
[13:10] <authorized> hey
[13:11] <john_doe_jr> how do I create a system user in ubuntu…is there any difference between a system user and a normal user?
[13:11] <authorized> hey is Ubuntu a good start for Windows switchers?
[13:12] <Pici> john_doe_jr: iirc, the only difference is that system users have a uid below 1000.
[13:13] <sipior> john_doe_jr: system users are generally intended for daemons and the like, and default to no login shell. do you mean instead users with administrative privileges?
[13:13] <john_doe_jr> sipior: yes
[13:13] <authorized> hey is Ubuntu a good start for Windows switchers?
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> authorized yes, create a live usb or dvd and try it
[13:14] <sipior> john_doe_jr: you can simply add the user to the sudo group
[13:15] <john_doe_jr> sipior: almost thanks
[13:16] <sipior> john_doe_jr: you're...uh...almost welcome?
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> be almost nice to each other
[13:20] <Kartagis> play almost nice
[13:21] <hkrrsx> I thought the expression was "Be excellent to each other" (Bill and Ted reference)
[13:21] <kj4> hello my name is Mike. I am a recovering Arachaholic
[13:21] <hkrrsx> <end of off-topic>
[13:21] <runda> good morning everyone
[13:21] <hkrrsx> morning, runda
[13:22] <runda> So I just made the switch from windows to ubuntu MATE anyone have any tips
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> runda learn it like you learned windows: by using it
[13:22] <hkrrsx> runda: Explore and enjoy
[13:23] <kj4> runda: never look back. One day you will feel more 'at home' with linux than windows, and not regret that move
[13:24] <runda> I've just been messing around with everything
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> runda and learning new stuff *can* be frustrating, but it'll pass
[13:24] <runda> hell this is my first foray into IRC
[13:29] <kj4> runda: welcome! linux is a completely different experience, takes some effort, but pays off tenfold.
[13:35] <Nandhu> how to upgrade a 14.04 to 15.04 in ubuntu
[13:36] <xangua> Nandhu: upgrade to 14.10 and when 15.04 is out upgrade again
[13:36] <compdoc> Nandhu, have you tried: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[13:36] <compdoc> 15.04 wont be around as long as 14.04
[13:37] <Nandhu> thanks friends
[13:38] <rakeshGunderi> what is the release date of ubuntu 15.04 ?
[13:39] <csyogi> 23rd april
[13:39] <Deepu> 23 April
[13:39] <rakeshGunderi> Thank you so much friends
[13:39] <Zerkalerka> rakeshGunderi: love you too
[13:39] <Saucisse_Cocktai> hi
[13:40] <Zerkalerka> Saucisse_Cocktai: how are you
[13:40] <Saucisse_Cocktai> fine
[13:40] <Saucisse_Cocktai> you?
[13:40] <Zerkalerka> I am drinking a Saucisse Cocktail
[13:40] <Saucisse_Cocktai> LOL
[13:40] <rakeshGunderi> thank u <Zerkalerka>
[13:41] <xangua> !ot
[13:41] <Saucisse_Cocktai> Saucisse is the french for Sausage
[13:41] <Zerkalerka> :)
[13:41] <Zerkalerka> ;)~
[13:41] <ilithium> Hey guys. I'm having some trouble with Ubuntu server locking up during boot; is there a way (from grub) I can tell it to skip loading networking so I can get in and fix stuff? Booting into single user doesn't work and stops at the same point
[13:42] <cn28h> you could possibly boot a live cd or a rescue cd and mount the system to fix it
[13:44] <ilithium> cn28h: thanks; I'll give that a go with a USB key - neither machine has a CD drive in it
[13:44] <dawnson> btw i finally got it to work, somewhat. using the desktop image worked. Why do i need 2 images anyways, is there a netinstall image that has all the drivers and hardware support of the desktop image but allows me to install ubuntu server?
[13:44] <cn28h> sure, yeah same idea
[13:44] <hkrrsx> ilithium: If you're familiar with single user mode, replace the word "single" with "init=/bin/bash" and boot ..... the machine won't attempt to start any services
[13:44] <cn28h> if you can bring the system up and mount it, then you can chroot into it
[13:45] <ilithium> Yes of course
[13:45] <ilithium> No idea what's making it spaz out: iLO now says it's got as far as:" Waiting for state" w/ "wait-for-state stop/waiting" which makes no sense to me
[13:48] <hkrrsx> ilithium: Have a read over this -- http://askubuntu.com/questions/508029/ubuntu-14-04-stuck-on-shutdown
[13:51] <chele> Hi guys, I have some trouble with my buntu server 12.04. I configure a tail file under /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/ to add an additional nameserver as bind9 is running locally. Then I tried to ping the domain from the bind server and doesn't respond. I check the dns trace and only the first nameserver configured in etc/resolv.conf is checked. Hence not answer for my ping request. How do I handle this case? I would like to setup mul
[13:51] <chele> tiple nameservers in my resolv.conf?
[13:52] <chele> Hi guys, I have some trouble with my buntu server 12.04. I configure a tail file under /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/ to add an additional nameserver as bind9 is running locally. Then I tried to ping the domain from the bind server and doesn't respond. Only the first nameserver configured in etc/resolv.conf is checked. How do I handle this case?
[13:53] <hkrrsx> chele: /join #bind and/or /join #dns
[13:53] <teward> chele: put your nameserver that is local ahead of the other nameservers - potentially in the head file
[13:53] <teward> hkrrsx: that's a resolvconf question, not a bind question
[13:53] <teward> it's still valid here
[13:53] * hkrrsx digresses
[13:54] <sam[cOe]> Hi
[13:54] <sam[cOe]> I need help on terminator terminal
[13:55] <sam[cOe]> I try to work with : zsh, alias, terminator, custom panel
[13:56] <sam[cOe]> all it's ok .. but .. when I play with custom command with alias terminator says "zsh:1: command not found:"
[13:56] <chele> teward, after doing this resolves what I expect from the local dns but not from the upper dns which is received from dhcp.
[13:57] <teward> chele: ping requests aren't dns requests, based on your initial question, what exactly are you expecting to happen?
[13:58] <chele> I expect the ping request to work based on domain names where dns requests are involved.
[13:58] <teward> chele: so you provide `ping some.domain.tld` and you are not getting DNS requests that you're expecting?
[14:00] <chele> teward, I am not getting dns requests to the correct server. Therefore not correct dns answer.
[14:00] <teward> chele: are you trying to get information that your bind9 server is authoritative for and that also another domain is authoritative for?
[14:02] <chele> teward, I am trying to get information for which bind9 is not authoritative for. The second nameserver configured is authoritative for this information I am trying to get. When I ask for info for which bind9 is authoritative for then I get correct info.
[14:03] <chele> So I cannot have to dns name servers in my resolv.conf as only works the first one on the file.
[14:03] <chele> two*
[14:03] <grishzakyan> hello erevybody
[14:04] <grishzakyan> everybody!
[14:06] <Pumpkin-_> chele: you can have two nameservers, but if you ask the first one and it comes back with NXDOMAIN or similar, your machine is going to believe it and assume that name doesn't exist. If you want to use nameserver A for some queiries, and nameserver B for some others, I suggest running a local DNS server and using some policy (like bind forwarders directives).
[14:07] <chele> Pumpkin-_, bind9 is what I am using but now as you said and as it seemed to me, I have to configure bind to forward.
[14:13] <sam[cOe]> nobody ?
[14:18] <Pici> sam[cOe]: Its hard to troubleshoot when you haven't told us what commands you are actually typing.
[14:26] <traverse> I think I found a problem with how dash handles something, that other shells seem to get right. Would anyone mind verifying?
[14:26] <m1xm4ster> clear
[14:28] <m1xm4ster> Hello, is there a way to access an already mounted filesystem (e.g. /media/data) on the host system from an ubuntu lxc container?
[14:30] <traverse> I think dash mishandles the following case: "tail -f $somefile | $some_nonexistant_program"
[14:30] <traverse> Other shells will correctly report: "$some_nonexistant_program: command not found"
[14:30] <traverse> Dash will leave 'tail' hanging in an unkillable (from that shell) state.
[14:31] <traverse> ^C, ^Z, ^\, etc will not kill tail, you have to do it from another shell
[14:31] <traverse> Thus far the other shells I've tested (real bash, zsh, /bin/sh, etc.) handle that case correctly.
[14:36] <mijkoo> hello, what is the disadvantage ( or lost advantage) of running 32-bit OS on an 64-bit machine with sufficient ram?
[14:37] <k1l> dont run 32bit OS if that hardware can use 64bit
[14:37] <sam[cOe]> Pici, terminator sucks .. ^^^
[14:38] <dawnson> k1l: why? :p
[14:38] <mijkoo> k1l, yes
[14:38] <mijkoo> that is my query, too
[14:38] <dawnson> mijkoo: 64bit software would perform a bit better and in most cases there is nothing against using 64 bit
[14:38] <dawnson> the question should rather be: why use 32 bit software?
[14:39] <mijkoo> dawnson, so it makes the machine underperform?
[14:39] <k1l> mijkoo: yes
[14:40] <dawnson> mijkoo: it might. you probably wont notice. I am not sure how linux handles RAM under 32 bit but i guess there should be no limitation
[14:40] <dawnson> im just curious why you would want to use 32 bit software
[14:41] <mijkoo> oh, ok, so no detectable difference..like not faster, more things to do together..
[14:41] <loa> sse3 and ssse3 are 64bit insructions?
[14:42] <loa> or can be used in 32bit code too?
[14:42] <dawnson> i think linux does support PAE as well, so 4+GB RAM should not be a problem there. But still the question is why you want to use 32bit software on 64 bit hardware
[14:42] <dawnson> loa: both are 32bit afaik
[14:43] <dawnson> ssse3 is from 2006 anyways :D
[14:43] <k1l> mijkoo: its not gaining that much speed because we still have not 64bit only code. so everything is still made working on 32bit too. but 64bit can adress more registers and has more bandwith on the connection to the ram.
[14:44] <loa> dawnson, it was introduced in xeons and intel core 2
[14:44] <dawnson> and atoms
[14:44] <k1l> and uefi is going to be a huge 64bit OS boost since its really problematic on some hardware to start 32bit OS with that
[14:44] <loa> dunno.
[14:44] <dawnson> and there are 32 bit atoms and core 2 CPUs
[14:44] <loa> ok.
[14:44] <dawnson> but i dont know if they support ssse3
[14:44] <dawnson> k1l: yes, but efi is not 64 bit only :D
[14:44] <k1l> some small (old) atoms are the reason why ubuntu still gives out 32bit isos for desktop.
[14:45] <k1l> dawnson: its not, but manufacturers handle it like that since windows prefers 64bit too
[14:45] <k1l> so as conclusion: dont install 32bit OS.
[14:45] <dawnson> yes, thats why i keep asking why he _wants_ to run a 32 bit OS
[14:46] <dawnson> i am all for 64 bit when it makes sense but maybe he has a valid reason
[14:48] <mijkoo> no, I was just trying to know..thank you for all your hints.
[14:49] <ntz> hello
[14:49] <ntz> one my customer have this (weird) os and he's reporting, that he has a problems with connecting to the vlan ... I've found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/vlan
[14:50] <ntz> ^^ but there's no NM mentioned .... is NM/wicd (whatever is in ubuntu) VLANs compliant ?
[15:07] <Kully3xf> looking for ideas guys - need to get ubuntu 14 onto my desktop, only have a 1gb flash drive a 1tb external hd, and large dual layer dvd's
[15:08] <Kully3xf> I have ubuntu 8.04 on the DT now, and it's not updated so I can't update the iso burner
[15:08] <Kully3xf> as it's out of date
[15:08] <Kully3xf> best way to update to 14?
[15:08] <k1l> Kully3xf: reinstall. is fastest.
[15:08] <Kully3xf> that's what I'm trying to do, but I have no media for 140
[15:08] <Kully3xf> 14*
[15:09] <Kully3xf> I can't burn the ISO to disc, I don't have a thumb drive big enough
[15:09] <k1l> Kully3xf: you could use the server iso that fits on 1gb usb pendrive and install "ubuntu-desktop" afterwards
[15:09] <k1l> Kully3xf: or use the netinstall method
[15:09] <Kully3xf> BAm
[15:09] <Kully3xf> good idea
[15:09] <k1l> !netinstall
[15:09] <Kully3xf> thanks
[15:09] <somsip> !minimal | k1l
[15:09] <somsip> k1l: sorry - meant for Kully3xf
[15:10] <Kully3xf> somsip: thanks! got it
[15:10] <psyrus> hai!
[15:10] <somsip> Kully3xf: cool - just another possible solution for you
[15:10] <Kully3xf> yep. doing minimal right now - exactly what I needed. Big ups
[15:10] <somsip> Kully3xf: my personal preference too :)
[15:10] <ZadYree> I've got a problem with any usb mouse I am trying to use on my laptop: it doesn't work at all and produces some kind of core dump: http://hastebin.com/osegeqezij.md
[15:20] <OerHeks> ZadYree, does that laptop have a FN key + touchpad/external mouse
[15:20] <ZadYree> OerHeks, yes sir
[15:22] <OerHeks> ZadYree, if that does not solve it, plug it in a non-USB3 port
[15:25] <ZadYree> OerHeks, now I am getting this: http://hastebin.com/sayusibaye.md
[15:25] <ZadYree> So it seems to work a bit better ^^
[15:25] <ZadYree> still lsusb doesn't show it
[15:26] <ioria> ZadYree did you connect the mouse after boot or before ?
[15:27] <ZadYree> after
[15:27] <ioria> ZadYree try before
[15:27] <ZadYree> should I try a reboot with it?
[15:27] <ZadYree> ok
[15:31] <anton02> ill just leave this here https://i.4cdn.org/g/1429227895645.jpg
[15:31] <TheNumb> anton02: it's not a chitchat channel.
[15:32] <TheNumb> anton02: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:32] <OerHeks> anton02, take it with you, please
[15:32] <OerHeks> !ot
[15:32] <anton02> good, it's nice to see this channel tidied up a bit
[15:33] <z2user> Hello, this a zipit z2 wireless messenger running debian sid LOL
[15:33] <z2user> using 6mb ram
[15:45] <TheSov> can someone help me understand why tsql refuses to connect?
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> !find tsql
[15:51] <Pici> MonkeyDust: Likely in the freetds-bin package
[15:51] <gH05t> i've update ruby from 1.9 to 2.1, how can i change it in terminal path?
[15:53] <SaucisseCocktail> hi
[15:53] <cabel> Question about VLAN trunking on an interface. I managed to set it up, but the subinterface is only pingable to devices on it's vlan. I need devices outside it's vlan to be able to connect to it. Anyone have any idea what is going on?
[16:03] <bobbobbins> hey, I just released a ubuntu web server out into the wild and I’m getting around 500 concurrent users at a time, which is causing the server to grind to a halt(the message I’m getting says possible SYN attact on port 80)…does someone have a good list of tweaks to resolve this and make the server more capable of handling this traffic?
[16:03] <ceed^> I'm wiping Windows and installing Ubuntu on a Thinkpad X1 Carbon. Should I use legacy boot or should I do UEFI?
[16:03] <dansanger> Hello I have a basic question about routing in ubuntu 12.04
[16:03] <daftykins> ceed^: doesn't matter either way really
[16:04] <CJKay> ceed^: UEFI is stable now, there's little reason not to use it
[16:05] <ceed^> CJKay, if I choose UEFI I still wipe everything off the disk and do not have to add any partition other than the ones I need for Ubuntu?
[16:06] <adef> install with grub key nomodeset
[16:06] <daftykins> ceed^: to remove the remnants of Windows 8 i'd recommend you "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M count=50" from the liveUSB prior to installing
[16:07] <CJKay> ceed^: Sorry, I don't understand your question... or statement
[16:07] <Bl4ckD34Th> hi, when will be released ubuntu 15.04?
[16:07] <Bl4ckD34Th> what date, who know...please answer
[16:08] <BluesKaj> Bl4ckD34Th, next thursday
[16:08] <Bl4ckD34Th> OMG...thank you
[16:08] <Bl4ckD34Th> i love ubuntu, i use ubuntu for some years now
, 23 april
[16:08] <Bl4ckD34Th> best gnu/linux distro ever made
[16:10] <sipior> ceed^: if you go for UEFI, you'll need to ensure that your partition table is GPT. you'll also need to make a new EFI boot partition.
[16:11] <dansanger> Hello, I have a server in openvpn and two clients. In the server I can see the clients an its LAN but in each other clients I can see the LANs. Can I to route the IP LAN in the server such way I can see the LAN in each other clients?
[16:16] <sipior> ceed^: actually, looks like you can still use an msdos label, if you have to. see here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/500359/efi-boot-partition-and-biosgrub-partition
[16:21] <Islam> hi there
[16:21] <kepler> hi
[16:21] <Islam> would any body plz help
[16:21] <Islam> I got a problem installing wine
[16:21] <MasterGberry> Hi. I am having some issues installing/starting mysql-server onto my new ubuntu machine. I have this from the terminal https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9c83cffe05bc6d964a9d and I have this from the error.log https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ff9533a636d80c84104f
[16:21] <MasterGberry> Did I do something wrong in the installation?
[16:22] <Islam> anybody can help with installing wine?
[16:23] <Islam> hello?
[16:23] <TheNumb> !patience | Islam
[16:23] <Fuchs> MasterGberry: could you try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a please?
[16:24] <Fuchs> MasterGberry: probably somehow the initial configuration of the mysql server (user, password etc.) got skipped
[16:24] <sipior> Islam: it would probably be useful if you gave us a specific description of the problem.
[16:24] <Fuchs> (or, probably better, sudo dpkg-reconfigure NameOfThePackageHere)
[16:25] <Islam> wine1.4: PreDepends: dpkg (>= <IP_ADDRESS>~) but <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu7.6 is to be installed
[16:25] <Islam> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14) but 2.15-0ubuntu10.12 is to be installed
[16:25] <Islam> Depends: wine1.4-amd64 (= 1.4-0ubuntu4.1) but 1.4-0ubuntu4.1 is to be installed
[16:25] <Islam> Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4-0ubuntu4.1) but it is a virtual package
[16:25] <Islam> here it is
[16:25] <TheNumb> !pastebin | Islam
[16:26] <Islam> ok sorry I'll use that past now
[16:26] <damex> hello, is there python3 + pip available for ubuntu 14.04 from official repos?
[16:26] <sipior> fls
[16:26] <sipior> apologies.
[16:26] <Fuchs> MasterGberry: thus either sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5 or, no ubuntu at paw to test, sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server
[16:26] <somsip> damex: python3 is installed by default.
[16:26] <Islam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10839480/
[16:26] <damex> somsip, what about pip?
[16:27] <Frumpzula> Can anyone help me with using date function inside a linux cron from crontab? I can use file name database_`date '+%m-%d-%Y'`.sql.gz when running a mysqldump from the command line, but when I put that into the cron, it does not run.
[16:27] <Frumpzula> tu
[16:27] <Islam> here is my problem installing wine "http://paste.ubuntu.com/10839480/"
[16:27] <somsip> !info pip | damex
[16:27] <somsip> !info python-pip | damex
[16:27] <damex> okay. thx.
[16:27] <somsip> !info python-pip trusty | damex
[16:28] <damex> i will do next install using ubuntu 14.04. instead of other distros.
[16:28] <damex> thx.
[16:28] <damex> (not for myself, for other people)
[16:28] <somsip> damex: look for /usr/bin/python3 and set up your shebang to use that. Leave python linking to python2.7 as that runs system stuff
[16:28] <MasterGberry> Fuchs: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server is broken or not fully installed
[16:29] <Islam> did anybody see my msg?
[16:29] <Fuchs> MasterGberry: sudo apt-get -f install and then sudo dpgk-reconfigure -a
[16:29] <Fuchs> MasterGberry: both should complain if there is something broken, with hints on what to do now. You didn't use PPAs by chance, did you?
[16:30] <Islam> here is my problem installing wine "http://paste.ubuntu.com/10839480/"
[16:30] <Islam> can I get help with that?
[16:30] <somsip> !info wine
[16:30] <Frumpzula> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29702979/variable-date-not-working-in-linux-cron - Ubuntu cron question I posted on stack.. Any help would be amazing!!!
[16:30] <somsip> Islam: so where are you getting version 1.4 form?
[16:31] <Islam> I dont know I tried to install it on sw center
[16:31] <somsip> Frumpzula: pull path to date required?
[16:31] <MasterGberry> Fuchs: i'm new to ubuntu, what is a PPA?
[16:31] <somsip> Islam: what version of ubuntu?
[16:31] <SchrodingersScat> !ppa | MasterGberry
[16:31] <Fuchs> MasterGberry: third party repository, unofficial
[16:32] <Fuchs> MasterGberry: but in this case probably you didn't, unless you followed some shady tutorials
[16:32] <Fuchs> MasterGberry: did you try the two commands I gave you?
[16:32] <MasterGberry> Possible that my work has something setup...but I just ran "sudo apt-get install mysql-server"
[16:32] <MasterGberry> yeah both still spitting out the same errors about something being misconfig'd
[16:33] <Islam> somsip: do you know what my problem is?
[16:34] <Islam> somsip: ubuntu 12.4
[16:34] <Fuchs> MasterGberry: could you paste these errors in a pastebin, please?
[16:34] <MasterGberry> sure, sec
[16:35] <Islam> somsip: I have ubuntu 12.04 lts
[16:35] <somsip> Islam: no, sorry
[16:36] <Islam> somsip: so I just can't install wine?
[16:36] <Islam> is there any other tools to run exe files ?
[16:36] <MasterGberry> Fuchs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10839531/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/10839538/
[16:37] <somsip> Islam: have patience and wait for a wine expert. I'm not one and I'm done for the night. Good luck
[16:37] <Fuchs> MasterGberry: okay, can you please give me an apt-cache policy mysql-server in a pastebin please?
[16:38] <Islam> somsip; thanx alot, and I'm so sorry I'm kinda new to this
[16:38] <Fuchs> MasterGberry: and a sudo grep mysql /etc/passwd (you can leave out the password hash, I am not interested in that, only whether it exists)
[16:39] <TheNumb> Islam: are you trying to install "wine" or "wine1.4"?
[16:40] <Islam> TheNumb: any thing that I can install exe apps on :)
[16:40] <TheNumb> Islam: how do you install the package then? What command?
[16:40] <TheNumb> sudo apt-get install wine?
[16:40] <SchrodingersScat> Islam: I'm not sure what's going on either, but you could try removing it with apt-get then try to install with apt-get and see if you get any further.
[16:40] <Islam> TheNumb: I'm trying to install it on ubuntu sw center
[16:40] <MasterGberry> Fuchs: https://gist.github.com/mastergberry/d7621bd092150a60ae77
[16:40] <Fuchs> MasterGberry: if the user doesn't exist, one just has to create it (sudo adduser mysql) and maybe adapt some permissions (sudo chown -R mysql:mysql /var/lib/mysql) and then re-run sudo apt-get -f install
[16:41] <ekh> Hello. I am trying to do a fresh installation of ubuntu (virtual box) however I am getting this http://snag.gy/E8ni2.jpg .. I would google it if I knew what that stupid random color is called :P
[16:41] <Fuchs> MasterGberry: yeah, that is not the official mysql package you are using there
[16:41] <Fuchs> MasterGberry: I assume it could be fixed with the above: creating said user, adapting permissions and re-running -f install, but with an unofficial package chances are that people won't be able to give you decent support
[16:42] <loa> ekh, cool.
[16:43] <ekh> loa: Any idea what caused that? or at least what that is so I can google it?
[16:43] <uugeepilvi> Hey
[16:43] <MasterGberry> guess I will have to contact IT and ask whats going on with their unofficial packages
[16:43] <MasterGberry> is there some way for me to force use the real packages?
[16:43] <loa> ekh, no idea sorry, you can try different ubuntu isos
[16:44] <ekh> cool thanks
[16:44] <uugeepilvi> Just got new pc and now Im trying to install ubuntu 14.04.2 on it from usb. Usb boots as it should and window where I can choose to install ubuntu or try ubuntu without installation opens but when I choose “install ubuntu” nothing happens after that except screen goes black. Where the problem might be?
[16:46] <Fuchs> MasterGberry: there is, but I wouldn't recommend it
[16:46] <Fuchs> MasterGberry: really, check if the mysql user exists (with that grep command I gave you. If it outputs matches, the user exists. If not: create it)
[16:46] <Fuchs> MasterGberry: then your packages should work as well. Maybe these unofficial packages forgot to do that for you (check if user exists, if not: create it)
[16:47] <Fuchs> MasterGberry: as soon as you have that user, the apt-get -f install should run the initial configuration for you, and then you should be able to use mysql
[16:49] <Islam> SchrodingersScat: is there any other options than wine to install a game?
[16:49] <uugeepilvi> any1?
[16:50] <Frumpzula> Can `date '+%m-%d-%Y'` be used inside a cron? From the command line if I tell mysqldump to use file name database_`date '+%m-%d-%Y'`.sql.gz, it works great.. But that same filename inside the cron breaks what was working prior to adding the date... Any insight?
[16:50] <Islam> TheNumb: I tried the command you suggested but it still dont work
[16:51] <SchrodingersScat> Islam: pick native games, preferably freedom respecting games.
[16:54] <SchrodingersScat> Islam: have you tried apt-get? the software center could just be doing something odd, but it's better to leave behind software that doesn't respect you
[16:54] <dust> Islam, http://www.playdeb.net/ also http://store.steampowered.com/ and https://www.playonlinux.com/ is in the repo
[16:56] <Islam> dust: I need to install counter strike source is there an easy way to do it?
[16:56] <SchrodingersScat> Islam: that's steam native now
[16:57] <Islam> SchrodingersScat: ok what should I do then?
[16:57] <dust> Islam, with the steam client which is in the repo... that way u get cs:source in native linux version installed
[16:57] <Guest20446> Hi!
[16:57] <SchrodingersScat> !info steam | Islam, sudo apt-get install steam #steam may want to update after this, or you can also get the .deb from steampowered.
[16:58] <Islam> dust: OMG thank you so much, I'm going to do that now !
[16:58] <Islam> dust: I'll try downloading it from the website first
[16:58] <Islam> dust: I guess this should work then
[16:59] <dust> Islam, well better try software center or synaptics and install steam from there
[16:59] <acz32> Islam: i would prefer ubuntu repos over website downloads
[16:59] <acz32> you will get updates through your package manager that way
[16:59] <OerHeks> * enable 3th party Canonical partner repo first
[16:59] <dust> the reason is because then u get sure automatic updates from the repo
[17:00] <Islam> dust: thanx alot for your help I do appreciate it
[17:00] <uugeepilvi> I just got new pc and I'm trying to install ubuntu 14.04.2 on it from live-usb. Usb boots as it should, window where you can choose to install Ubuntu or try it without installation opens but after I choose “Install Ubuntu” nothing happens except screen goes blank. Any suggestions what to do?
[17:00] <dust> urw :)
[17:00] <Islam> acz32: thanx alot for your help I do appreciate it
[17:01] <TheNumb> uugeepilvi: how new is it?
[17:01] <Islam> SchrodingersScat: thanx alot for your help I do appreciate it
[17:01] <SchrodingersScat> Islam: yep, have fun
[17:01] <TheNumb> uugeepilvi: also, try selecting "try without installing"
[17:01] <uugeepilvi> same thing happens
[17:01] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | uugeepilvi
[17:01] <TheNumb> uugeepilvi: try ubuntu 14.10
[17:02] <uugeepilvi> Motherboard is Z97X-Gaming 3, if this matters?
[17:02] <daftykins> uugeepilvi: not even vaguely :)
[17:16] <ksnya> quit
[17:17] <alu> ey
[17:18] <alu_> hi, me no gud england
[17:20] <TheNumb> !ubuntu-es | alu__
[17:20] <TheNumb> hmm
[17:22] <alu__> iiiiiii
[17:22] <alu_> fffff
[17:22] <alu_> aa
[17:22] <uugeepilvi> Ubottu: stupid question: where I have to write this !nomodeset parameter? There is no menu which can be opened by pressing f6 (as article you linkd says).
[17:22] <alu__> sadadasdasdas
[17:22] <alu> adasdasdasd
[17:22] <EriC^^> uugeepilvi: hold shift while the pc boots and you should get a menu
[17:23] <alu_> alu wins
[17:23] <OerHeks> alu_, alu__ hi, do you have an ubuntu support question ?
[17:23] <EriC^^> uugeepilvi: you might need to press e over the menu entry and add it to the line that says linux vmlinuz.... at the end of it
[17:23] <alu> yes
[17:24] <alu> y have a question
[17:24] <alu_> lorino out
[17:24] <EriC^^> uugeepilvi: then press ctrl+x
[17:24] <uugeepilvi> ok, I will try that
[17:24] <alu> how create a channel private?
[17:24] <alu__> hola
[17:25] <OerHeks> alu better ask in #freenode
[17:25] <yeroyestark> hola
[17:26] <yeroyestark> hola
[17:26] <OerHeks> hi yeroyestark
[17:27] <yeroyestark> ;)
[17:27] <Runda> Hello everyone
[17:27] <yeroyestark> aprendiendo a manejar ubuntu que tal tu
[17:28] <OerHeks> !es | yeroyestark
[17:28] <uugeepilvi> Eric^^: It didn't work..
[17:29] <EriC^^> uugeepilvi: what do you mean?
[17:30] <uugeepilvi> Opened that "menu" by pressing e and then added !nomodeset to the end of the line which starts with words linux vmlinuz
[17:30] <OerHeks> nomodeset, no !nomodeset :-)
[17:31] <OerHeks> that !nomodeset opens the factoid from ubottu
[17:31] <uugeepilvi> ohh ok :D
[17:31] <OerHeks> !ubottu
[17:33] <uugeepilvi> It worked!
[17:33] <uugeepilvi> ty for help
[17:34] <Runda> join ##crypto
[17:35] <OerHeks> uugeepilvi, have fun. now check if there is a videodriver available, in the additional driver menu
[17:35] <uugeepilvi> will do
[17:36] <raimex> hello all, I have an OS on a 26gb disk, of which 11gb is used. but disk utility shows that only 6gb is free. and in home folder it is shown even less, under 5gb. how could this be?
[17:36] <EriC^^> raimex: type df -h and paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[17:38] <pc-moon__> hello , i have my pc is hp pavilion 500 series have intel hd 4000 graphics drive how can i make it multi display like in windows , thank you
[17:38] <raimex> EriC^^ it is here: paste.ubuntu.com/10839830/
[17:40] <sjmikem> When using Logtiech wireless keyboard, I sporadically get a bunch of escape chars or 1's output. Seems to only happen in Terminal. Any ideas on what is causing that?
[17:40] <EriC^^> raimex: type du -shx /* 2> /dev/null and paste it please
[17:42] <gizmo> anyone using virtualbox?
[17:42] <phoenixz> Has support for ubunut 13.04 been discontinued? I wanted to install a package but all sources give me a 404 for some reason....
[17:42] <Guest55608> i am using
[17:42] <EriC^^> phoenixz: yes
[17:43] <gizmo> how do you make it fullscreen
[17:43] <EriC^^> right ctrl+f
[17:43] <gizmo> on osx
[17:45] <OerHeks> gizmo, guest additions, read the osx manual of virtualbox
[17:45] <gizmo> wheres that to Oerheks?
[17:46] <OerHeks> gizmo, dunno, not on the ubuntu wiki.
[17:46] <Runda> anyone have any tips or advice for an ubuntu MATE noob?
[17:46] <gizmo> ok ta
[17:46] <OerHeks> gizmo, virtualbox.org
[17:47] <gizmo> Oerheks: cheers
[17:50] <phoenixz> EriC^^: Argh.. So what are my options from this point on?
[17:51] <EriC^^> you could upgrade to 14.04 if you want, that would be the best
[17:52] <EriC^^> phoenixz: you could still use the old repository, but it's not recommended and you wouldn't have fixes and stuff
[17:58] <raimex> EriC^^ sorry it took a while...here is the output: paste.ubuntu.com/10839930/
[18:01] <EriC^^> raimex: ok, most of the space is in /home (12g)
[18:02] <EriC^^> raimex: type du /home | sort -n
[18:05] <wrouesnel1> is there an accepted way to build a derivative package that only differs by the .debian files?
[18:05] <wrouesnel1> but might have a different name to the original
[18:06] <raimex> EriC^^ it poured out tons of file locations in my folders
[18:07] <neldogz> Is booting off the live CD a good indicator of how well hardware would work under a distribution? For example, I have an older system and tried both Ubuntu and Xubunu but the touchpad stutters and sometimes looses tracking. If it doesn't work well off the live CD can I assume it won't work if its installed to disk?
[18:07] <genii> neldogz: That's pretty much the idea, yes.
[18:07] <neldogz> genii, thank you!
[18:08] <EriC^^> raimex: ok, they should be sorted by size
[18:08] <genii> neldogz: You can try to find the issue is when running the lived, and if a solution is possible, then install to system and apply the solution there after.
[18:10] <dampil> всем хой!
[18:10] <genii> !ru | dampil
[18:10] <raimex> EriC^^ how am I going to get an answer from them?
[18:11] <EriC^^> raimex: if you see any file that's huge and you dont need etc.
[18:11] <oralho> hii
[18:11] <ifancho> hi guys
[18:12] <ifancho> i need some help
[18:12] <oralho> i am new at linuz
[18:12] <oralho> linux
[18:12] <oralho> is possibel any program to crack wifi networks?
[18:12] <pbx> ifancho, dive right in and ask your question, with lots of detail and context
[18:12] <ifancho> :)
[18:12] <pbx> oralho, no such thing exists sorry
[18:13] <oralho> ok
[18:13] <oralho> thanks
[18:13] <raimex> EriC^^ the problem is not that I'd like to delete big files. I see different amounts of free space displayed at different parts of the system.
[18:13] <oralho> just because a friend told me, i was just to confirme
[18:14] <EriC^^> raimex: that could be due to disk usage vs file size
[18:14] <EriC^^> oralho: you can crack anything
[18:14] <oralho> really? yes but how
[18:14] <ifancho> ok. so i was updating my ubunto i left the pc. when i comeback the pc was of. i tried to boot and i got "udevadm trigger is not permited .... "
[18:15] <oralho> is possible to update to ubuntu with lubuntu?
[18:15] <EriC^^> oralho: not the scope of this channel, and not cool
[18:15] <raimex> EriC^^ yes, nautilus says 11gb used, ~5gb free (and I have a 26gb disk, as I mentioned) disk utility says 6gb of 26gb free
[18:15] <OerHeks> lubuntu=ubuntu
[18:15] <ifancho> i`m on live usb now i got some solution but i have dual boot and i was thinking if i do it not to mess up the dual boot
[18:16] <raimex> the nautilus data is for my home folder. I wonder why the two differ.
[18:16] <neldogz> genii, thanks again!
[18:16] <raimex> when the difference is like 10gb
[18:16] <mikael_> oralho by a wifi usb card
[18:16] <genii> neldogz: You're welcome
[18:17] <EriC^^> raimex: do you have lots of small files?
[18:17] <oralho> so i can install no pen than upgrade?
[18:17] <oralho> on pen
[18:18] <neldogz> oralho, you can simply install lxde desktop environment
[18:19] <oralho> so i can use unetbootin to make the iso file on the pen
[18:19] <raimex> EriC^^ no, on the contrary, there are a handful
[18:19] <neldogz> oralho, http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu
[18:20] <Killfaster> hola
[18:20] <Killfaster> alguien que quieera ahablar
[18:20] <ifugotgrubproble> hello, i got some issues with grub i need quick help with, anyone can help?
[18:20] <raimex> EriC^^ I wonder if I might have downloaded things I havent seen while downloading some files. is it a possibility in this case?
[18:21] <ifugotgrubproble> pretty much i have ubuntu on a partition alongside windos 7, i can boot into windows 7 if i use gparted off the live cd to set the boot flag to the system partition, but it won't show grub at all or the possibility of going into the ubuntu installation
[18:22] <hawa> i have a query... if i was to write a script to put in /usr/bin and that script stores its temporary variable in another file, where should i put another file, the one that stores the variable value?
[18:22] <ifugotgrubproble> if i don't set a boot flag, it won't boot at all
[18:22] <ifugotgrubproble> into either system
[18:22] <neldogz> hawa, /tmp
[18:22] <ifugotgrubproble> i tried setting the boot flag on both the extended partition housing the linux system and the root logical partition but neither works
[18:22] <ifugotgrubproble> i tried loading without a boot flag hoping grub would take over
[18:23] <ifugotgrubproble> anyone got any suggestions?
[18:23] <vagrant_> exit
[18:23] <ifugotgrubproble> or a suggestion as to what channel i should ask in?
[18:24] <oralho> is possible to explain how ca i install to ubuntu?
[18:24] <uugeepilvi> Eric^^ I installed ubuntu but now after restart it wont work, only purple screen appears. I tried to temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS as said here: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 but didnt work.
[18:25] <raimex> EriC^^ in other words, could it be any sort of malware that inflates used disk space?
[18:25] <neldogz> oralho, please check the page i sent you
[18:25] <hawa> neldogz, thanks...
[18:25] <neldogz> oralho, http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu
[18:25] <EriC^^> uugeepilvi: try getting a tty with ctrl+alt+f1
[18:25] <EriC^^> uugeepilvi: did you try booting with nomodeset?
[18:26] <uugeepilvi> I tried yes
[18:26] <EriC^^> raimex: no idea, check the du list for anything that's taking space up
[18:27] <neldogz> uugeepilvi, did you install anything else besides Ubuntu? For example Nvidia drivers after the installation?
[18:27] <uugeepilvi> There were no drives to install
[18:28] <neldogz> uugeepilvi, it gets stuck always at the purple screen?
EriC^^ the problem is not that I'd like to delete big files. I see different amounts of free space displayed at different parts of the system.
[18:29] <uugeepilvi> After I wrote nomodeset and boot it gets stuck on screen where reads following: "Booting a command list, Loading Linux 3.16.0-34-generic..., Loading initial ramdisk...
[18:30] <EriC^^> raimex: type du -s /home && du -sb /home
[18:31] <EriC^^> i doubt the difference is that big though
[18:33] <raimex> EriC^^ this one: paste.ubuntu.com/10840106/
[18:34] <mjollnerd1> If I have a /dev/md10 instead of something like /dev/sda does that mean that the hard drive is a SSD/
[18:34] <mjollnerd1> ?*
[18:34] <EriC^^> raimex: ok so you're saying if you right click properties in nautilus it says free space something different than what df says?
[18:34] <faust> mjollnerd1: /dev/md* is for raid
[18:35] <mjollnerd1> so it's raid 10?
[18:35] <uugeepilvi> neldogz, any ideas?
[18:35] <faust> mjollnerd1: it could be anything: cat /proc/mdstat
[18:36] <raimex> yes, I right click on home folder tab, and get 11gb used, ~5gb free. when I select the matching disk partition in disk utility, it shows 6gb of 26gb free. and the partition is 26gb.
[18:38] <faust> raimex: how did you formatted that partition?
[18:39] <raimex> EriC^^ I right clicked on the computer tab now, and it shows almost the same as the partition; ~20gb used, ~5gb free. and total capacity also ~26gb. not exactly the same, but close by 1gb
[18:39] <raimex> the free space, I mean
[18:40] <OerHeks> raimex, if it could show the exact sizes in bytes, you would see.
[18:41] <Yatekii> hi! anyone using ubuntu on a mac? I just installed an ubuntu un my mac and it worked like a charm, no troubles and now my efi doesn't recognize it at boot :S any ideas?
[18:41] <OerHeks> raimex try "df -B1 "
[18:41] <raimex> OerHeks, ok, the 'computer' folder and partition show close values. but why would home folder and computer folder have 10gb difference in used space?
[18:42] <raimex> the programs?
[18:44] <raimex> OerHeks, I see 1gb space used by 'tmpfs'..I guess temporary files?
[18:44] <EriC^^> raimex: du /home | sort -n should show you the files and sizes
[18:44] <EriC^^> check the last 10 to see if it makes sense
[18:44] <OerHeks> raimex, the computer folder contains a lot, /boot/ and /var/log/ and such
[18:45] <ifancho> OerHeks , can you help me
[18:45] <raimex> OerHeks, ok
[18:47] <oralho> neldogz says to install by terminal
[18:47] <OerHeks> ifancho, just ask your question, if someone knows the anser he/she will respond
[18:47] <OerHeks> *answer
[18:47] <ifancho> i did nobody answer
[18:48] <ifancho> i was updating my ubunto i left the pc. when i comeback the pc was of. i tried to boot and i got "udevadm trigger is not permited .... "
[18:48] <ifancho> i`m on live usb now i got some solution but i have dual boot and i was thinking if i do it not to mess up the dual boot
[18:48] <OerHeks> !recovery
[18:48] <OerHeks> hold shift @ boot etc
[18:48] <ifancho> cant load id
[18:49] <ifancho> dont know why
[18:49] <raimex> EriC^^ the last ten are all home folder files..but it seems at least clear that computer folder is the one to refer to when checking total used/free space. and it is about close to the one that the partition shows..so it should be ok..
[18:50] <oralho> to creat a usb image on a pen is better unetbootin? or anothers better?
[18:50] <ifancho> i`m booting , can chose recovery but its not loading
[18:50] <ifancho> i can boot in windows too
[18:52] <EriC^^> raimex: ok, great
[18:53] <raimex> EriC^^ thank you for your help!
[18:54] <raimex> OerHeks, thank you!
[18:54] <EriC^^> raimex: no problem
[18:55] <darko> hi to all
[18:56] <OerHeks> ifancho, not loading .. you should get the commandprompt
[18:56] <darko> can someone tell me how to remove unused ppa from the system. I dont know what ppa I use but uninstaled programs and I want to clean the system
[18:56] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[18:57] <genii> !ppapurge
[18:57] * genii slides OerHeks helper snacks
[18:57] <EriC^^> !ppa-purge
[18:57] * OerHeks shares with EriC^^
[18:57] <darko> but I have programs like latest inkscape and dont want to delete ppa for it
[18:57] <EriC^^> :D
[18:58] <tgm4883> darko: read the page
[18:58] <OerHeks> darko, then go into softwarecenter > edit > sources, and disable it there
[18:58] <genii> darko: You use the ppa pruging command with repository name of the ppa you want gone. the ones you want to leave, don't run the ppa purge on those
[18:58] <OerHeks> but that could be a start of an issue in the future.
[18:59] <Thelks> http://www.gofundme.com/s7wfms?pc=fb_cr_g i'm going to install there ubuntu
[18:59] <Thelks> :D
[18:59] <darko> ok. Thank you very much
[19:00] <pazuzu> hello
[19:00] <Thelks> hi guys!
[19:00] <Thelks> :D
[19:00] <pazuzu> tud vki magyarul?
[19:01] <pazuzu> oke
[19:01] <pazuzu> andrex
[19:02] <OerHeks> Thelks, please don't spam, thanks. This is ubuntu support only
[19:03] <chris_> chris
[19:03] <pazuzu> tud vki magyarul?
[19:05] <Thelks> ok OerHeks, sorry
[19:05] <pazuzu> tud vki magyarul?
[19:05] <pazuzu> tud vki magyarul?
[19:05] <pazuzu> tud vki magyarul?
[19:05] <tirengarfio> I want to run everyday "gimp" at 21 hours, so I have created a file here "/etc/cron.daily" with this line inside: "02 21 * * * /usr/bin/gimp", but gimp is not launched at 21 hours..
[19:06] <OerHeks> pazuzu, likely not.
[19:06] <tirengarfio> the can be executed (+x)
[19:06] <EriC^^> tirengarfio: use crontab -e , and use DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/gimp
[19:06] <tirengarfio> EriC^^, what is crontab -e ?
[19:06] <EriC^^> tirengarfio: it's your user's crontab
[19:07] <OerHeks> crontab -edit
[19:07] <uugeepilvi> Eric^^ I found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2263316 At the start he says "in terminal write..." Where can I open terminal if I cant get back to desktop after installation restart?
[19:08] <pazuzu> stie cineva romaneste?
[19:08] <faLUCE> hello, is it possible to pipe the skype voice output to some speech recognizer for linux?
[19:08] <EriC^^> uugeepilvi: press ctrl+alt+f1
[19:09] <EriC^^> !romania | pazuzu
[19:09] <faLUCE> hello, is it possible to pipe the skype voice output to some speech recognizer for linux?
[19:09] <uugeepilvi> Nothing happens
[19:09] <ebonics> faLUCE, anything is possible if you put your mind to it!
[19:09] <pazuzu> ms
[19:10] <EriC^^> uugeepilvi: did yuo try booting with nomodeset?
[19:10] <EriC^^> *you
[19:10] <faLUCE> ebonics: I'm searching for a how-to
[19:10] <ebonics> faLUCE, http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/
[19:11] <raimex> just one more question...what is the differencew
[19:11] <raimex> sorry
[19:11] <raimex> what is the difference of selecting primary or logical when creating a partition?
[19:11] <faust> faLUCE: http://www.triplebit.com/images/Cable2.jpg :D
[19:11] <uugeepilvi> Yes I did and after I boot it gets stuck on screen where reads: Booting command list, Loading linux 3.16.0-34-generic..., Loading initial ramdisk...
[19:11] <faLUCE> ebonics: ?
[19:12] <EriC^^> raimex: you can't have more than 4 primary partitions with msdos partition tables, so you can use an extended partition and create way more logical partitions, they're basically the same thing
[19:12] <ebonics> faLUCE, your problem is pretty obscure. i doubt you're going to find pipe-skype-audio-to-voice-recognizer.so
[19:12] <faust> raimex: for linux it doesn't matter, but windows won't start if it is not on a primary partition
[19:12] <ebonics> faLUCE, you will probably need to create your own system with available tools for this
[19:13] <raimex> EriC^^ thank you. dr. faust, thank you, too! :)
[19:13] <raimex> so it doesnt matter which one to select?
[19:13] <faLUCE> ebonics: I see
[19:14] <uugeepilvi> When I start pc and keep pressing shift grub menu (or whatever it is) appears. Should I press ctrl + alt + f1 there to get terminal open?
[19:14] <uugeepilvi> It didnt work
[19:15] <EriC^^> uugeepilvi: no, try booting with nomodeset, if it doesn't work and you can't get a terminal too, then you can boot the live usb again with nomodeset and you can chroot into your installation and install graphics drivers
[19:15] <raimex> I just noticed that I dont have the option to create extended partition during ubuntu install
[19:15] <raimex> there is either primary or logicla
[19:15] <raimex> logical*
[19:15] <tirengarfio> EriC^^, after "crontab -e" and editor is opened, but when I try to save the file I get "/etc/cron.daily/first_crontab E212: Can't open file for writing"
[19:15] <tirengarfio> Im trying to save the crontab at /etc/cron.daily
[19:15] <tirengarfio> is that correct?
[19:16] <EriC^^> raimex: same thing, extended is just the initial partition that gets divided into logical ones
[19:16] <uugeepilvi> Eric^^, what chroot means? >.>
[19:16] <faust> raimex: logical partitions resides inside an extended partition that take the slot of one primary partition
[19:17] <EriC^^> tirengarfio: no you shouldn't be saving to there
[19:17] <kys_freenode> Hi, I am using xfce and when pluggin in my external harddrive it is mounted without any rights (drwx------). How can I change this?
[19:17] <kys_freenode> I think thunar is responsible for mounting
[19:17] <EriC^^> tirengarfio: type crontab -e , and edit that file then save
[19:17] <EriC^^> !chroot | uugeepilvi
[19:17] <kys_freenode> and its a ntfs partition
[19:17] <faLUCE> well, let's divide the problem. is there any good speech recognizer for linux? I can use google's recoginzer too, but I would need a gui
[19:17] <tirengarfio> EriC^^, so where exactly? by default it seems it is saved at "crontab.CIigMF/crontab"
[19:18] <tirengarfio> but what path is that exactly?
[19:18] <EriC^^> tirengarfio: it's in /var/spool/something...
[19:18] <raimex> ah, I see..thank you again! :)
[19:21] <tirengarfio> So my steps are: 1. crontab -e 2. add this line 00 21 * * * /usr/bin/gimp but gimp is not launched..
[19:21] <tirengarfio> 3. save (:w at vim)
[19:21] <EriC^^> tirengarfio: DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/gimp
[19:21] <zerowaitstate> faLUCE: Sphinx, HTK, and Kaldi are a few
[19:22] <faLUCE> zerowaitstate: thanks
[19:22] <genii> tirengarfio: cronjobs which are GUI need to be told where to display the program
[19:24] <tirengarfio> EriC^^, it is not launched yet..:( here it is my file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10840338/
[19:25] <tirengarfio> it says it is saved at "/tmp/crontab.7GIP4i/crontab", when I save it (:w)
[19:25] <EriC^^> tirengarfio: did you add it to the crontab of the user you're logged on to?
[19:26] <EriC^^> i just tried it, it works here *shrug*
[19:26] <tirengarfio> EriC^^, I just run "crontab -e" and write it and save it, what else should I check?
[19:26] <EriC^^> type id
[19:27] <EriC^^> before typing crontab -e
[19:27] <tirengarfio> uid=1000(tirengarfio) gid=1000(tirengarfio) groups=1000(tirengarfio),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),108(lpadmin),124(sambashare)
[19:27] <EriC^^> ok, type crontab -l
[19:27] <tirengarfio> tirenarfio is my user
[19:28] <tirengarfio> EriC^^, this is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10840359/
[19:29] <EriC^^> ok type echo $DISPLAY
[19:29] <uugeepilvi> Eric^^ what kind of chroot should I do and how? Im too newbie for this >.<
[19:29] <tirengarfio> it outputs :0
[19:30] <EriC^^> type tail /var/log/syslog
[19:30] <EriC^^> does it say CRON DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/gimp ?
[19:30] <tirengarfio> no
[19:31] <EriC^^> tirengarfio: type crontab -e and add * * * * * DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/gimp
[19:31] <tirengarfio> EriC^^, don't worry about it, it is working for a non display command
[19:31] <EriC^^> tirengarfio: type grep "DISPLAY.*gimp" /var/log/syslog
[19:31] <chrisfromgreece> help !! No sound on ubuntu 15.04
[19:32] <tirengarfio> EriC^^, nothing is outputted
[19:32] <EriC^^> tirengarfio: it should mention it in syslog if it runs
[19:32] <EriC^^> tirengarfio: ok, so it's not running
[19:32] <xangua> !15.04 | chrisfromgreece
[19:32] <chrisfromgreece> help !! No sound on ubuntu 15.04 only virtual output !!! help i want to keep this installation if possible
[19:32] <x41> hello people
[19:32] <tirengarfio> EriC^^, don't worry really, than you very much!!
[19:32] <EriC^^> ?
[19:34] <EriC^^> tirengarfio: did it work?
[19:34] <faLUCE> zerowaitstate: I can't find a GUI speech recognizer with a proper deb packagte.+
[19:34] <EriC^^> uugeepilvi: follow the guide from step 6 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[19:34] <faLUCE> zerowaitstate: sphinx needs an installation
[19:35] <EriC^^> uugeepilvi: sudo chroot /mnt will make the chroot.. then type lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA and paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[19:37] <tirengarfio> EriC^^, no, it is not working, even with a nont graphical application, actually my command is /usr/bin/mytravel. Here it is the cron file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10840392/ Actually it has worked the first time, but not anymore..
[19:38] <EriC^^> tirengarfio: is it in syslog?
[19:38] <tirengarfio> no
[19:38] <tirengarfio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10840398/
[19:39] <EriC^^> tirengarfio: that's odd
[19:43] <tirengarfio> wait, it seems the time at my taskbar is not the same of the system..
[19:43] <EriC^^> tirengarfio: try * * * * * it's way easier to troubleshoot stuff
[19:44] <EriC^^> tirengarfio: it'll run every minute
[19:44] <faLUCE> hello, is there any GUI based speech recognizer for ubuntu available on deb packages?
[19:46] <tirengarfio> EriC^^, it is working now, the problem was the time at my taskbar
[19:46] <tirengarfio> it is not showing the time of the system exactly
[19:47] <sheap> what is going on during "select and install software" on install? (retrieving file 5 of 32)
[19:47] <azizLIGHT> is there a way to query what is playing sound wise?
[19:47] <EriC^^> sheap: press the arrow in the installer and it'll open a terminal below
[19:48] <EriC^^> sheap: i think it's updating the packages cache, or installing stuff if you chose to update during the installation
[19:48] <sheap> EriC^^: which arrow? it's a preseed but it's stuck retrieving files
[19:49] <krunkpirate> anybody have any insight why ubuntu-latest (e.g.) has stopped defaulting to using tmpfs for /tmp?
[19:49] <EriC^^> sheap: arrow to the left, anywhere really i think at the bottom area
[19:51] <EriC^^> tirengarfio: i see
[19:51] <EriC^^> tirengarfio: try right clicking on it and selecting to get the time from the internet i guess
[19:52] <Peanut> Hi, is systemd enabled on Ubuntu 14.10? I seem to have a 'systemd' package installed, but systemctl can't seem to connect to dbus. Is it only a shim version?
[19:52] <ianorlin> Peanut: no it is not installed as init for 14.10
[19:54] <acz32> is it possible to install a DE without bundled software like its file manager, etc
[19:54] <Peanut> ianorlin: ok, thanks.
[19:54] <k2gremlin> if I have an isc-dhcp server running with a pool of .100-.200, can I still use DHCP to statically assign a device with an IP outside of the DHCP pool range.
[19:58] <OerHeks> acz32, --without-recommends , but a filemanager would be part of it i guess.
[20:00] <OerHeks> k2gremlin, sometimes yes, depends on the router.
[20:00] <zerowaitstate> ianorlin: systemd will become an option most likely in 15.04
[20:01] <zerowaitstate> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[20:02] <Crimlo> HI all
[20:03] * ianorlin knows zerowaitstate
[20:04] <zerowaitstate> sorry, wrong dest. I meant to send to Peanut
[20:05] * zerowaitstate looks at the clock and notices that beer-thirty is approaching
[20:05] <Pici> 70
[20:05] <wldcordeiro> Is notify-osd any use to Kubuntu or is it an Ubuntu package?
[20:05] <darko> hi everyone
[20:06] <Peanut> It's ok, I did see it, zerowaitstate
[20:06] <jayjo> How can I inspect my cronjobs?
[20:06] <wldcordeiro> I've been having problems with it and want to know if it's okay to remove.
[20:06] <EriC^^> jayjo: crontab -l for your user ones
[20:06] <zerowaitstate> jayjo: crontab -l
[20:06] <Peanut> Just got some curious systemd login errors, despite not running systemd.
[20:06] <jayjo> I put one in under crontab -e but I don't think it's executing
[20:06] <EriC^^> jayjo: less /var/log/syslog
[20:06] <darko> can someone tell me how to open opt folder with root privileges?
[20:07] <EriC^^> jayjo: press G and they should show up at the bottom
[20:07] <zerowaitstate> jayjo: check /var/log/syslog; cron should notify in syslog when a job runs
[20:07] <phelix> Would anyone know why this doesn't run when in cron? But if i copy and paste this it works??
[20:07] <phelix> "/usr/bin/mysqldump -uUSER -pTHEPASS --opt motdmedia | gzip -c > /var/www/backups/databases/motdmedia/motdmedia.$(date +%m-%d-%Y).sql.gz >/dev/null 2>&1"
[20:07] <phelix> without the ""
[20:08] <zerowaitstate> phelix: you have two output redirects
[20:08] <zerowaitstate> phelix: for stdout
[20:09] <phelix> well i tried without the >/dev/null and it doesn't work in cron either.
[20:09] <zerowaitstate> instead of >/dev/null 2>&1, do 2>/dev/null
[20:09] <phelix> k let me try that thanks
[20:12] <phelix> zerobyte: /usr/bin/mysqldump -uUSER -pPASS --opt motdmedia | gzip -c > /var/www/backups/databases/motdmedia/motdmedia.$(date +%m-%d-%Y).sql.gz 2>/dev/null
[20:13] <phelix> this one doesn't seem to be working either. I can see in syslog that its running. but the file is not created
[20:13] <zerowaitstate> my guess is the bash date expansion isn't working. usually when i do this i put the command in a bash script and tell cron to execute the script, rather than trying to do it inline
[20:13] <bekks> phelix: Does "/usr/bin/mysqldump -uUSER -pPASS --opt motdmedia" work as expected?
[20:13] <phelix> ahh hmm
[20:14] <zerobyte> :o
[20:14] <phelix> bekks yeah even with the dats if I run the command from the terminal it creates the output with dates just fine
[20:14] <phelix> just not in cron
[20:15] <bekks> Try using full paths, like /usr/bin/gzip instead of gzip.
[20:15] <zerowaitstate> bekks: good eye
[20:15] <phelix> k
[20:15] <zerowaitstate> phelix: yeah, cron does not pick up your environment; you have to specify a lot of stuff
[20:16] <Frumpzula> When doing a mysqldump from the command line, can you include ftp instructions for off server transfer? Dont find much on google for this question.
[20:16] <zerowaitstate> Frumpzula: no, but if you are scripting it you can send the output via curl
[20:16] <Frumpzula> Ah!
[20:16] <Frumpzula> Thank you
[20:17] <Frumpzula> Zerowaitstate - Do you know why data function works when doing a mysqldump via command line, but when I add to crontab, it does not?
[20:17] <Frumpzula> date
[20:17] <Frumpzula> I mean
[20:17] <Frumpzula> not data
[20:18] <rethem> hellow
[20:18] <zerowaitstate> Frumpzula: you may need to specify the shell to be used in your crontab
[20:19] <zerowaitstate> i.e., SHELL=/bin/bash
[20:19] <zerowaitstate> man 5 crontab for details
[20:19] <phelix> "/usr/bin/mysqldump -uUSER -pPASS --opt motdmedia | /bin/gzip -c > /var/www/backups/databases/motdmedia/motdmedia.$(date +%m-%d-%Y).sql.gz 2>/dev/null" does not work either.
[20:19] <Frumpzula> Thank you, I will explore that now
[20:19] <zerowaitstate> /bin/sh isn't bash on ubuntu
[20:19] <Frumpzula> IM using ubuntu 12.04
[20:20] <bekks> Frumpzula: You can script that.
[20:20] <zerowaitstate> bekks: yeah, I recommended that
[20:20] <k2gremlin> OerHeks, the DHCP server is the Ubuntu server. I want a device to be statically assigned. However, the device does not have a static setting. I don't want it to be part of the pool of .100 to .200. I want it to have say .90 using the host config in the dhcps.conf file.
[20:21] <Frumpzula> Where in this syntax would I add the shell specifiaction? 15 2 * * * root mysqldump -h mysql.url.com -u user -pPassword intravet sites | gzip > /mnt/disk2/database_`date '+%m-%d-%Y'`.sql.gz
[20:21] <zerowaitstate> you add it on a different line, usually near the top of the crontab file
[20:21] <phelix> hah me and Frumpzula seem to be working on the same problem
[20:22] <zerowaitstate> run the man page from crontab(5)
[20:22] <Frumpzula> Funny stuff phelix... When I do the dump without the date in a cron, it works fine.. Also, from command line, the date function works like a charm also
[20:22] <Frumpzula> Just not in the cron
[20:22] <zerowaitstate> Frumpzula: that's because cron does not use bash by default
[20:22] <Frumpzula> ok
[20:22] <Frumpzula> Thats my answer I think
[20:22] <zerowaitstate> Frumpzula: for evaluating the command
[20:22] <Frumpzula> Really appricate it zero
[20:23] <Frumpzula> I love this place!
[20:24] <kibMaf> Hello guys, i got this issue on my ubuntu 14.04 box. Software center is not available for unknown reason. How do I restore it?
[20:24] <zerowaitstate> Frumpzula: what you guys are asking for is done by nearly every dba there is
[20:24] <phelix> Frumpzula: Yes exact same problem here
[20:24] <zerowaitstate> so, I've done a couple of scripts like that :)
[20:24] <Frumpzula> I now understand.. Makes total sense.
[20:25] <phelix> is it possible to have cron run as basj instead of sh ?
[20:25] <zerowaitstate> Frumpzula: I typically create an whole script file for the backup job; that way if some part fails I can add logic to email or notify me of a problem
[20:25] <Frumpzula> How do you best eludicate the correct path for that?
[20:25] <zerowaitstate> the correct path for bash?
[20:25] <Frumpzula> I was thinking of going down that road Zero
[20:25] <Frumpzula> yes
[20:25] <ihio> hello all, how can I wipe a file via command line? I mean completely erase
[20:25] <zerowaitstate> which bash
[20:26] <zerowaitstate> type "which bash" from command line
[20:26] <Frumpzula> idio, I use rm
[20:26] <zerowaitstate> Fuchs: rm unlinks only; it does not do "secure erase"
[20:26] <kibMaf> Has anybuddy heard me guys?
[20:26] <Frumpzula> Got it zero.. Thank you!
[20:26] <kibMaf> I got this issue on my ubuntu 14.04 box. Software center is not available for unknown reason. How do I restore it?
[20:26] <ihio> which one would be secure erase?
[20:26] <Fuchs> wat?
[20:27] <Frumpzula> you can shred it?
[20:27] <Frumpzula> shred -vzn 3 /path/file
[20:27] <Frumpzula> I think
[20:28] <ihio> thank you Frumpzula
[20:28] <zerowaitstate> that's the easiest way for a particular file. alternatively there are tools to zero out unallocated file blocks
[20:28] <ihio> what is 3 there?
[20:29] <Frumpzula> SHELL=/bin/sh
[20:29] <Frumpzula> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
[20:29] <zerowaitstate> ihio: how many times to overwrite the data with junk
[20:29] <Frumpzula> Last question Zero - The command: which bash displays /bin/bash - My cron tab says
[20:29] <Frumpzula> SHELL=/bin/sh
[20:29] <Frumpzula> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
[20:29] <Frumpzula> will changing whats there have any negitive effecgts?
[20:29] <Frumpzula> or can I just add a path
[20:30] <ihio> I applied it, but the file is still there
[20:30] <Frumpzula> secure wipe tries to erase all sectors with junk so its gone for good
[20:30] <zerowaitstate> Frumpzula: always specify the full qualified path to your shell; never rely on PATH environment to find it
[20:30] <jayjo> I can see where my cron jobs are running - is there a way to see the errors the job throws?
[20:30] <ihio> even though the runs are shown in terminal, the file is there
[20:30] <Frumpzula> so all I need is Shell=/bin/bash ?
[20:31] <Frumpzula> leave path alone?
[20:31] <zerowaitstate> ihio: add the -u option to delete it after overwrite
[20:31] <ihio> oh no sorry, the file is there, but, yeah, filled with junk
[20:31] <Frumpzula> you have to add delete command
[20:31] <Frumpzula> nm, zero got ya
[20:31] <ihio> -u option to the end=
[20:31] <ihio> ?
[20:31] <Frumpzula> doesnt have to be at end
[20:31] <Frumpzula> as far as I know
[20:32] <ihio> oh yes
[20:32] <ihio> it did
[20:32] <dhcp_help> Hello all, I have a isc-dhcp-server question (ubuntu 12lts) question.
[20:32] <ihio> thank you all for your assistance! :)
[20:32] <zerowaitstate> ihio: be aware that this will not necessarily securely erase from flash media that supports TRIM
[20:33] <zerowaitstate> ihio: due to the fact that TRIM redirects writes to fresh disk sectors
[20:33] <ihio> zerowaitstate, which one would be secure erase for flash media (like usb) ? nautilus wipe tool?
[20:34] <zerowaitstate> ihio: in that case you are better off zeroing unallocated blocks with something like zerofree
[20:35] <zerowaitstate> ihio: but the attacker has to be very savvy to get at the data on a flash trim volume
[20:35] <zerowaitstate> ihio: whereas just accessing unlinked files is easy
[20:37] <dhcp_help> is isc-dhcp-server the correct install for server 12? dhcp3 is the older server right?
[20:37] <Guest28088> hy !! i have a problem with my keyboard !! when i'm in a root terminal some keys do not work !! can you help me ?
[20:37] <ihio> zerowaitstate, trim relates to ssd only, right?
[20:38] <woodsbw> Anyone have issues using GSSAPI/Kerbros auth for SSH via PBIS? I have identical configs on two boxes, and one correctly allows the ticket to be passed, and one doesn't. I found that, when I run sshd on the server with "/usr/sbin/sshd -Dddd -f /etc/ssh/sshd_config", the authentication fails with "Wrong principal in request."
[20:41] <zerowaitstate> ihio: correct, or possible usb flash media
[20:42] <ihio> zerowaitstate, so usb sticks are also trim volumes?
[20:42] <zerowaitstate> ihio: I _think_ they can be, but not 100% sure.
[20:43] <zerowaitstate> ihio: the purpose of TRIM is dealing with low write cycle endurance for early models of flash memory
[20:44] <zerowaitstate> ihio: recent flash drives have higher number of write cycles before failure, so it is gradually becoming less of a problem
[20:44] <ihio> zerowaitstate, so it is more likely to be relevant for early models like usb 1.0 and maybe 2.0 ?
[20:44] <ihio> relevant or existent
[20:45] <zerowaitstate> ihio: some models don't support TRIM at all. They just fail when you hit the write cycle limit
[20:46] <zerowaitstate> ihio: google it if you want the gory details
[20:46] <zerowaitstate> ihio: buckshot is the best secure delete
[20:46] <ihio> zerowaitstate, how about wipe or dd?
[20:48] <nogoodnamesleft> ihio, What are you trying to do? `shred` will securely erase a volume
[20:49] <ihio> nogoodnamesleft, I was more referring to files
[20:50] <zerowaitstate> ihio: if you're doing stuff that is super-double-top-secret-probation, then you need to use encrypted file systems like LUKS instead of trying to monkey with secure delete
[20:50] <nogoodnamesleft> ihio, shred does that as well: `man shred`.
[20:50] <nogoodnamesleft> ihio, He's right, too. You want an encrypted disk as well.
[20:51] <faLUCE> hello, is there any GOOD speech-to-text application for ubuntu? I tried lot of messed/outdated/hard-to-install programs... can you suggest me a good one? I don't need to activate programs with vocal commands, I just need to write a dictation... something like google voice recognizer
[20:52] <zerowaitstate> doing good speech-to-text is hard, so most of that is going to be proprietary
[20:52] <faLUCE> zerowaitstate: also a proprietary program is good for me, but it has to run on linux
[20:52] <ihio> sure. thank you, just wanted to know which would be the best in case of a secure file deletion
[20:52] <ihio> thank you so much for your detailed help!
[20:53] <nogoodnamesleft> ihio, Shred will nuke it for sure, you can even do 7 pass overwrites.
[20:53] <zerowaitstate> nogoodnamesleft: I merely mentioned that shred and its kin do not work in log-structured filesystems or where the firmware is doing the same
[20:54] <decwrl> I
[20:54] <nogoodnamesleft> zerowaitstate, Yes you are correct there. I use it for disks.
[20:54] <ihio> yes, we talked about flash media..
[20:55] <decwrl> I'm trying to install packages from an unsigned repo via preseed. Does anyone know of the preseed d-i command needed to implement the "--force-yes" option for apt-get install?
[20:55] <zerowaitstate> which is why I recommend if you are fairly paranoid about it to not store sensitive data unencrypted in the first place
[20:55] <zerowaitstate> if the volume is encrypted then it's less important to securely wipe
[20:55] <nogoodnamesleft> To be honest i think physical disk destruction is the best way
[20:55] <zerowaitstate> nogoodnamesleft: I also mentioned buckshot
[20:56] <zerowaitstate> nogoodnamesleft: but I didn't think anyone got it
[20:56] <nogoodnamesleft> zerowaitstate, What is buckshot?
[20:56] <zerowaitstate> 12 gauge
[20:56] <nogoodnamesleft> ?
[20:56] <zerowaitstate> ammunition for a shotgun?
[20:56] <nogoodnamesleft> oh guns
[20:56] <nogoodnamesleft> Yea well. None of those here I don't think. :-)
[20:56] <zerowaitstate> see, you don't get it either
[20:57] <zerowaitstate> I'm showing my roots
[20:57] <nogoodnamesleft> I would take it to a shredder, or use thermite.
[20:57] <sammy> why is there a confirmed bug for do-release-upgrade from 3+ ubuntu versions ago where dropping to a shell to examine the diffs for a config upgrade kills your entire ugprade process!
[20:57] <ihio> I have another question if I may. I am trying to import keys, by selecting 'import', but nothing happens
[20:57] <zerowaitstate> nogoodnamesleft: most of our stuff in my old job we sent to an industrial shredder
[20:58] <sammy> now I'm left with a half-configured upgrade
[20:58] <zerowaitstate> ihio: import keys for what
[20:59] <ihio> gnupg
[20:59] <sammy> the python upgrade script in /tmp is still running but I don't know how to (if I can) re-attach to it
[21:01] <nogoodnamesleft> Is there some reason Ubuntu defaults to OpenJDK 7 and not 8? Even vivid does. I see 7 in the main repo and 8 in universe.
[21:03] <sammy> anyone have any experience restarting/reattaching to a running release upgrade?
[21:05] <ihio> I am trying to import remote keys, but it doesnt work. am I missing something?
[21:06] <sammy> this seems like a good excuse to ditch ubuntu.
[21:07] <SonikkuAmerica> !details | sammy
[21:09] <sammy> SonikkuAmerica: eh, I just meant on this machine. I'm not going to reinstall it after this. do-release-upgrade dropped me to a shell to investigate a simple config file diff, and when I exited the shell, it closed the terminal the upgrade was in
[21:09] <mbainrot> quick question, I am using gitextensions-mono and for some reason for TAGMESSAGES it's using \ instead of /, anyone know off the top of their head how to fix? quick googling yields nothing so I suspect its a chronic case of mbainrot brainrot
[21:09] <jayjo> Is there any way to get my cron job reports without having an MTA installed?
[21:09] <SonikkuAmerica> sammy: Then [ sudo killall do-release-upgrade ] and re-run it
[21:10] <jayjo> Can I store them somewhere and access them manually periodically?
[21:10] <sammy> jayjo: you can get an MTA to deliver them locally; it's not terribly hard to get postfix or a very very simple MTA setup with no internet mailing
[21:11] <sammy> SonikkuAmerica: no, no thanks. there's nothing to re-run, my source lists have already been changed. it's too late to run it again, it had already downloaded and installed/upgraded most packages
[21:12] <sammy> dpkg is still running, waiting for me to return from checkign out the diff
[21:12] <SonikkuAmerica> sammy: You should be able to reattach screen
[21:12] <sammy> SonikkuAmerica: it closed it.
[21:12] <SonikkuAmerica> screen died?
[21:12] <sammy> SonikkuAmerica: this is what I'm tryiing to say, i typed exit, and I got the 'x to remove or r to reattach' message
[21:13] <sammy> like it does when the entire upgrade is over
[21:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Did you hit X?
[21:13] <SonikkuAmerica> If not, it should be listed in [ screen -r ]
[21:14] <sammy> you're not listening :( it closed. hitting r would only re-run do-release-upgrade which wont help me now that my sources are changed and lsb_relase says I'm on the version I was trying to upgrade to
[21:14] <sammy> but yes, I finally hit x after hitting r and seeing it was trying to re-run the ugprade (which is still halted int he background) to no avail
[21:14] <sammy> and even if I hadn't hit X and re-attached to it, I already got the 'x or r' mesasge, which meant the terminal the upgrade was in had closed
[21:15] <EriC^^_> sammy: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade if it failed on an upgrade, maybe
[21:15] <sammy> and I think you may have meant `screen -ls` for a listing
[21:15] <sammy> EriC^^_: dpkg is still running. the upgrade is still running :P
[21:15] <meisth0th> hi
[21:15] <SonikkuAmerica> sammy: For a listing, yes... but do you have more than 1 screen session going?
[21:15] <sammy> at this point I'm too wary to go and kill it off until I'm sure there's no way to resume it
[21:16] <yeats> sammy: 'tail -f /var/log/dpkg.log' would show you if it's still running
[21:16] <sammy> that will definitely get me to a point that I may not be able to recover from
[21:16] <meisth0th> i'll install ubuntu, would you recommend to wait until 15.04 is released?
[21:16] <sammy> yeats: I can see the processes :P
[21:16] <sammy> they're all there, including the python process running the /tmp/upgrade-whatever-script-thingy-randomgarbage
[21:16] <sammy> it's like it paused to let me check the diff, then kicked me out. it's all still there
[21:17] <sammy> meisth0th: you can always install 14.04 and then upgrade. I'd suggest that, and wait until 15.04 has been out for about a month or so, so they can work out the kinks
[21:17] <sammy> that way you can install now and you wont have to wait!
[21:17] <sammy> despite what you see here, the upgrade process is pretty painless.
[21:18] <meisth0th> sammy, if i install 15.04 beta 2 now, will i get a unstable system?
[21:18] <Bashing-om> meisth0th: !st time user ? I would suggest installing the Long-Term-Support release, 14.04 .
[21:18] <meisth0th> Bashing-om, coming from arch linux, don't think i'll have issues.
[21:19] <sammy> meisth0th: not necessarily. in fact, most likely not. if you don't mind tracking down bugs and the like, run 15.04
[21:19] <Bashing-om> meisth0th: Great ,,, have at it .. but be aware 15.04 is only supported for 9 months, then upgrade time .
[21:19] <sammy> it's like any other rolling release software; the longer each version has been out, the more time people have had to work out the bugs
[21:20] <trfsrfr> what is the command to load my internet bookmarks (json file)into firefox?
[21:21] <meisth0th> sammy, ok thanks, loading 15.04 beta 2 to usb now :)
[21:22] <irnfoot495> Hello I have a problem with my php scripts can't seem to get them to work. They are about 6 yrs. old and just wont work. I really need help to find out what to do.
[21:28] <phelix> I was working on a bash script and accidently messed something up.. I don't have like rm or ls or a ton of different commands. Any idea how I can get these back?? I tried to apt-get install coreutils but it says its already installed and a reinstall seems to not work =/
[21:29] <jayjo> can I just log the errors from cron somewhere on the machine?
[21:30] <xjkx> I run ubuntu 14.04, libreoffice <IP_ADDRESS>, my templates for Impress don't work, they seem good from normal view, but once I press F5 to slide-show, the image of the background of the template turns half white, even though it looks fine before I press F5, I'm using Vintage template, I don't remember if I downloaded or it came with it, but all I downloaded were from official page anyway
[21:30] <Bashing-om> phelix: Which script ? Might be lucky and have a backup file -> ls -l /var/backups <- .
[21:31] <phelix> not sure cat doesn't work either =/ some bash script I was working on myself. Kinda new to bash scripts and was trying to rm some specific files and something bad happend. it like nuked all my important commands
[21:31] <phelix> I am not sure what to do
[21:33] <tadzik> hello ubunters. In 14.10 I disable intel_powerclamp so it wouldn't throttle my CPU to 600 MHz when I need to do stuff on it, now I updated to 15.04 for newer mesa but even though intel_powerclamp is blacklisted my CPU is still at 400 MHz when under load, is there a good way to prevent it from doing that?
[21:33] <tadzik> I'm on "performance" governor
[21:33] <tadzik> nothing interesting in dmesg
[21:33] <Wedge_> Anyone here good with gtk themes?
[21:34] <Bashing-om> phelix: IF you know which file is messed up, might be able to boot to "recovery" from grub boot menu , remount read/write and fix the file ??
[21:34] <treelzebub> i remain good at gtk themes by avoiding them altogether, personally :P
[21:37] <phelix> I Can't reinstall anything. I keep getting dpkg: warning: 'sh' not found in PATH or not executable
[21:37] <phelix> same with rm and tar
[21:37] <phelix> those files seemed to have been removed
[21:38] <genii> phelix: Do you have a livecd around?
[21:39] <phelix> I dont. this is a rackspace server
[21:39] <tadzik> current policy: frequency should be within 1.20 GHz and 1.32 GHz. The governor "performance" may decide which speed to use within this range. current CPU frequency is 405 MHz.
[21:39] <tadzik> what is this bullshit >:(
[21:39] <genii> tadzik: Please watch the profanity in here
[21:39] <tadzik> I'm sorry
[21:40] <phelix> is there anyway to get these files back on the server?
[21:40] <genii> phelix: Not without some way to externally boot and then debootstrap the affected partition
[21:41] <genii> phelix: ... does the command: ar work?
[21:41] <phelix> yes
[21:43] <genii> phelix: Hm, was thinking you could grab deb files and ar -x them it, but then you still have to untar. Need to find a tar binary someplace first
[21:44] <phelix> k have another ubuntu machine. Gonna try and grab those missing binary files and copy them to the right spot
[21:44] <genii> phelix: Probably want to grab at a minimum the binutils and tar packages
[21:45] <phelix> ya
[21:45] <phelix> not sure how in gods name this bash script did this
[21:47] <genii> phelix: After you get a functional minimal back up should make a list of installed packages and then apt-get install --reinstall them
[21:47] <phelix> ok I'll try that.. thank you
[21:51] <pankid> I have an Ubuntu 14.04 web server I want to patch some security vulnerabilities on, but dont want to reboot for the kernel update yet. Is it a terrible idea to echo kernel_package hold | dpkg --set-selections until I have a lull in traffic for a reboot?
[21:53] <yeats> pankid: you can go ahead and do the full 'apt-get upgrade' or 'apt-get dist-upgrade' then reboot when it's convenient
[21:53] <genii> phelix: echo $(dpkg --get-selections | grep install | cut -f1) | sudo apt-get install --reinstall ...should work for that. Basically, headphone in/out detection is no longer reliable. I never use the speakers. I want to force output to always come out through the headphones, whether they are plugged in or not
[21:54] <ihio> hello, I am trying to import remote gnupg keys, but it doesnt work when I find them and click on 'import'. am I missing something?
[21:54] <yeats> pankid: of course, things like apache restarts happen during APT updates, so you might see an interruption
[21:54] <peanuts> (am Guest24671) any idea how to do that?
[21:54] <peanuts> I can do it manually from the sound settings dialogue but, it reverts
[21:54] <yeats> pankid: (but it would be momentary)
[21:55] <ihio> ok, I am asking it in gnupg channel. thank you
[21:55] <pankid> yeats: I can't see that being a problem. Not a ton of traffic, I will just be in a world of hurt if the site goes down for more than an apache reload
[21:55] <yeats> pankid: it would probably be fine - I administer many high-availability ubuntu servers
[21:56] <pankid> yeats: thanks a ton
[21:56] <yeats> pankid: best of luck ;-)
[21:58] <Gallomimia> hello. i seem to be having rather a plethora of problems with this fresh install i’ve just made. i did several rather unusual things: i installed 14.04 LTS server, then installed ubuntu-desktop package. i also installed proprietary nvidia drivers from the xorg-edgers ppa. i can’t seem to get network to run properly, and booting without recovery mode makes the X crash upon entering password (or clicking guest login) booting in recovery
[21:58] <Gallomimia> seems to work but leaves no networking. any suggestions are welcome!
[22:02] <yeats> Gallomimia: I would check the logs for clues on the X issue - also, you're probably in limbo between NetworkManager and the server-style /etc/network/interfaces-style management
[22:02] <yeats> !networkmanager
[22:02] <Gallomimia> with text? i’ve done that before on remote vps’s. i can’t seem to meet up with the proper interface name
[22:03] <Gallomimia> the X issue is probably more pressing :/
[22:03] <yeats> Gallomimia: 'ifconfig' should show you the names of interfaces
[22:03] <Shaba1> Hello folks is there a tutorial on putting ubuntu on a usb key with PERSISTANT storage with WINDOWS
[22:03] <Gallomimia> yeats: that lists loopback only i’m afraid
[22:03] <Shaba1> All the ones I have found on the 'net assume you already have ubuntu on you machine.
[22:04] <yeats> Gallomimia: look in /etc/network/interfaces too - for the X issue, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and friends
[22:04] <Shaba1> or they reccomend an installation that takes up the whold usb key
[22:04] <yeats> !liveusb
[22:04] <yeats> Shaba1: ^^
[22:06] <taxomoney> Hello! Does anyone know how I can add a keyboard layout to the list you normally choose from? I installed Japanese language support and IBus Anthy, yet Jap. Anthy still dosent show up in the list.
[22:06] <Shaba1> Mot install FROM a usb stick
[22:06] <Shaba1> install TO a USB stick so you can boot the laptop to ubuntu
[22:06] <Gallomimia> yeats i should also mention that in building my install, i had grub-probe freak the heck out and spew all sorts of errors and dump core. it still does this when asking it to repair grub
[22:06] <yeats> Shaba1: read the second link :-/
[22:07] <yeats> Gallomimia: if you can collect and pastebin the errors, someone may be able to assist
[22:07] <mandaxFan> Wassup guys? How's it going?
[22:08] <mandaxFan> Guys, share your favorite Ubuntu package
[22:08] <yeats> !poll | mandaxFan
[22:08] <Shaba1> thanks reading
[22:08] <Gallomimia> yeats: i’ll try, but most of them are in places i can’t c&p. i’ve managed to google some of them and there’s open bug reports
[22:09] <phelix> genii I added those files and now I am getting a permission denied.. Do you know if i have to set a specific permission to them now?
[22:09] <yeats> mandaxFan: better to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic - this channel is for support
[22:09] <mandaxFan> oops, sorry I will leave :)
[22:11] <genii> phelix: 755 should be their permissions, root their user and group
[22:12] <phelix> is it safe to just run chmod -R 755 /bin ?
[22:12] <yeats> Gallomimia: you can try something like '<command> | tee errors.log' then install pastebinit and do 'pastebinit errors.log' (of course, that requires networking)
[22:12] <yeats> phelix: don't do that
[22:12] <phelix> ugh, I don't even have chmod working right. Getting permission error on chmod
[22:13] <genii> phelix: There are some like mount that have setuid, so no
[22:13] <Gallomimia> yes that’s a bit of a problem. i’m considering a scheme to transfer pastebin docs on a usb.
[22:13] <phelix> chmod must of been one of the files the script removed
[22:13] <phelix> i have chown but not chmod
[22:13] <phelix> well those commands are there now but no permission to run them
[22:14] <Gallomimia> or maybe you lost access to chmod? perhaps the permission is removed for +x ?
[22:14] <Gallomimia> maybe your group got changed and you’re not in the group that can run it?
[22:14] <coffee-> !compatibility
[22:14] <Gallomimia> i think you need to learn about sudo
[22:14] <coffee-> !hardware
[22:14] <phelix> no I ran a bash script I was working on and messed something up and it deleted a ton of my files in /bin
[22:14] <phelix> so i found another ubuntu machine and coppied the missing files from there to this machine
[22:14] <Gallomimia> oh.
[22:15] <phelix> not sure what to do....
[22:15] <Gallomimia> maybe you should use a repair script? usb stick...
[22:15] <phelix> well the machine is at rackspace
[22:15] <Gallomimia> backup all your files
[22:15] <Gallomimia> oh
[22:15] <genii> phelix: Is it possible to pastebin the script you originally used which messed it up?
[22:15] <phelix> yea
[22:15] <Gallomimia> yeah that’d help!
[22:15] <Gallomimia> let’s read it.
[22:15] <phelix> ftp i think will let me download it
[22:15] <pc-moon__> synaptic give me message is Could not apply changes!
[22:15] <pc-moon__> Fix broken packages first
[22:15] <genii> ( so we can see what exactly it did)
[22:16] <pc-moon__> can some one tell me how fix that
[22:16] <Gallomimia> uh… dpkg -f install ?
[22:16] <pankid> are updates to ubuntu 14.04 stable pretty conservative? Will updates to php, mysql, apache break my web server if I am using an older version of zencart?
[22:17] <Gallomimia> uh… pankid i want to say probably
[22:17] <pankid> probably will break, or probably wont break?
[22:18] <l4l13n> pc-moon__, you have to tell us what u r trying to install with synaptic and if it does that with eveything.
[22:19] <phelix> http://pastie.org/10099022
[22:19] <pc-moon__> im trying to install NVIDIA legacy binary driver -
[22:20] <pc-moon__> i have VESA: GM107 Board - 20120050 and i wanna run two display
[22:21] <pc-moon__> i have two error in update first is VESA: GM107 Board - 20120050 and second is VESA: GM107 Board - 20120050
[22:22] <pc-moon__> sorry first is E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? and second is E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:23] <genii> pc-moon__: use sudo in front
[22:23] <phelix> genii: http://pastie.org/10099022
[22:23] <pc-moon__> you mean like : sudo apt-get update
[22:24] <l4l13n> pc-moon__, close everything then sudo synaptic
[22:24] <genii> phelix: Unfortunately my mind is mooshy right now, I've been looking at it but not registering anything. I think the problemmatic part might have been using /* because /.. is recurse a directory
[22:24] <pc-moon__> ok
[22:24] <l4l13n> unless irc >>
[22:25] <genii> pc-moon__: Yes, sudo apt-get update
[22:25] <phelix> Yes, well any idea how to help me get these files back? I mean I put the binaries back on from my other ubuntu machine. But now I can't run them and chmod is one of the commands I don't have permission to run
[22:26] <genii> phelix: When you "boot" the server do you get a grub menu?
[22:26] <pc-moon__> ok im trying
[22:26] <phelix> I am not sure. Scared to try and reboot it. And again its at rackspace I can't watch the bootup screen
[22:27] <pc-moon__> oh good synaptic working now
[22:27] <phelix> I mean I could look at the log file
[22:27] <phelix> I have some very important websites running on it. And those are still working just fine. It seems like it really just nuked a bunch of important files in /bin
[22:27] <genii> pc-moon__: By the way, do not run that other command which l4l13n said. If you run synaptic with sudo and not gksu/gksudo it will mess up files in your home folder
[22:28] <pc-moon__> ah ok its good to know thats
[22:29] <genii> phelix: I ask because normally a grub menu comes and you choose which kernel, or memtest, or in this case what we would want is the recovery boot which lands you as root user
[22:29] <pc-moon__> do thats hard to make my ubuntu run to minters by my nvidia card
[22:29] <l4l13n> genii, oh really?
[22:29] <genii> l4l13n: Yes
[22:29] <phelix> I don't think that i have access to do this.. =/
[22:29] <genii> !gksu
[22:29] <l4l13n> ok sry guys
[22:29] <phelix> there anyway to get a chmod file on this machine that will run?
[22:30] <genii> l4l13n: See the bot's link for a more detailed explanation
[22:31] <genii> phelix: It's the chicken-egg problem, unfortunately
[22:31] <phelix> yea ... ugh.
[22:31] <phelix> not sure what to do!
[22:32] <genii> phelix: The only way to escape the chicken-egg type situation is go outside of it by one level somehow. so in this case an external boot independent of the messed up files would be the normal method
[22:33] <l4l13n> genii, damn i use sudo for months. I'll use gksudo about now thx
[22:33] <genii> phelix: Is it letting you scp files to it right now?
[22:33] <phelix> yea I can do that
[22:33] <phelix> will that copy file permissions etc?
[22:34] <genii> phelix: So conceivably you could scp the other Ubuntu's files directly to the /bin ( assuming it lets you use sudo )
[22:34] <pankid> huzzaaah, was scared due to how many updates I had to do. yeats: I ended up just doing apt-get upgrade rather than dist-upgrade, so the kernel wont be updated until I run dist-upgrade and reboot
[22:34] <genii> phelix: Yep, will preserve whatever ownership and perms
[22:34] <phelix> k let me try that
[22:36] <phelix> wtf.. just ran it and it copied everything and I still get bash: /bin/ls: Permission denied
[22:36] <nogoodnamesleft> Is there some reason Ubuntu defaults to OpenJDK 7 and not 8? Even vivid does. I see 7 in the main repo and 8 in universe. 8 is much faster for the apps I am using.
[22:40] <dtscode> how would i install opengl on ubuntu
[22:40] <alex141284> test
[22:41] <genii> phelix: Oh, forgot... use -p switch. Like I said, brain is mooshy right now
[22:41] <genii> alex141284: Yes, we see what you type
[22:44] <Peiniger> I’m logged in to a server that is rejecting all new connections. In /var/log/auth.log I’m seeing the following message: Connection closed by myipaddress [preauth]
[22:44] <Peiniger> I’ve restarted ssh and verified authorized_keys hasnt been changed.
[22:45] <genii> Peiniger: Probably a better question for #ubuntu-server
[22:45] <Peiniger> Thanks genii
[22:45] <genii> Peiniger: It's pretty quiet in there right now, but have patience :)
[22:45] <Peiniger> Thanks
[22:48] <lzkill> hi everyone... I have an issue regarding a usb pen drive... whenever I plug it on my network breaks... does anybody know where to start debugging?
[22:48] <genii> phelix: Any luck using scp with the -p switch to copy the files over?
[22:49] <nogoodnamesleft> lzkill, What breaks? Network drive connection breaks, or network connection breaks?
[22:49] <phelix> no it still changed file permissions. I just talked to a guy at rackspace. I guess I can boot into recovery mode. He said and then get to the machine and then mount my current hard drive and copy the core /bin files from the rescue mode to the my current servers mount and then reboot
[22:49] <phelix> if that makes sense.
[22:49] <phelix> he says that shouldn't mess with any permissions
[22:50] <genii> phelix: Yes, good
[22:51] <phpcoder> hello everybody
[22:51] <phpcoder> in my laptop i have a graphic card NVIDIA® GeForce® 840M con DDR3 da 2 GB
[22:52] <phpcoder> the problem is that ubuntu found Intel® HD Graphics 5500 (Broadwell GT2)
[22:52] <phpcoder> how can i resolve this?
[23:19] <mjollnerd1> what's the term for " and ' in linux? Trying to google the difference between the two, but google is trying to actually use them instead of search for them
[23:21] <bekks> The first one is called "double quotes", the second one is called "single quote". Inside the first one, e.g. shell expansion is done, inside the latter one shell expansion does not work.
[23:21] <mjollnerd1> thank you
[23:21] <bekks> yw :)
[23:28] <phpcoder> ubuntu-drivers devices returns nothign :(
[23:29] <Loshki> pankid: get a spare disk (or better yet, a spare machine) and stage it. Then you can cut back at a moment's notice if necessary.
[23:37] <phelix> is it possible to take permissions from /bin and duplicate them on same file names on like /mnt/bin ?
[23:39] <Jordan_U> phelix: Yes. It probably requires some scripting though. What is your end goal?
[23:40] <phelix> i have 2 folders with duplicate files.. I messed up all the permissions in my /bin folder. So I rebooted int orecovery mode. So I mounted my hd that has the bad permissions in /mnt/bin and I am trying to take perms from recovery /bin and duplicate them to the files in /mnt/bin
[23:40] <phelix> would like chmod --reference /bin /mnt/bin/* work ?
[23:41] <phelix> hmm doesn't seem like it does
[23:42] <hiexpo> mv chown
[23:46] <Jordan_U> phelix: Are the files otherwise identical?
[23:56] <Ullarah> Quick question, is vivid still on track for release on the 23rd? :)
[23:57] <xangua> when it's ready Ullarah
[23:57] <Guest19103> hello
[23:57] <Guest19103> hi every body
[23:58] <lzkill> hi folks. I have an issue with my new sandisk extreme pen drive... every time I plug it on my network access goes down... does anybody know how to solve this?
[23:58] <Jordan_U> lzkill: Do other USB devices cause the same problem? Please pastebin the output of "dmesg" after plugging in the USB drive.
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[00:01] <ianorlin> wxl bug 1434774 is annoying though
[00:01] <wxl> let's head over to #lubuntu-offtopic :)
[00:03] <Captonjamason> friends wanna play minecraft with me
[00:03] <Captonjamason> maybe in a bit
[12:46] <elfy> balloons infinity cyphermox - just so you are aware, testing today's dailies for us and Ubuntu - the fail to reboot after the remove media prompt is back
[12:48] <davmor2> infinity, cyphermox, jibel: there are huge issues on oem mode in latest dvd
[12:48] <davmor2> I'm going to start filing bugs
[13:07] <davmor2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1445474 , https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1436715 , https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1445479 , https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1445481
[13:52] <elopio> good morning.
[13:56] <infinity> cyphermox: Did you see all of davmor2's bugs up there?
[13:58] <davmor2> infinity: I need to run a non oem install but I don't want to blow away the broken wifi till cyphermox has logs :)
[14:03] <jibel> pitti, running upgrade from utopic to vivid, I'll create other jobs once it passes
[14:03] <pitti> jibel: yay, merci beaucoup !
[14:04] <pitti> jibel: et comment on dit "yay" par français ? :-)
[14:04] <jibel> pitti, Youpi!
[14:04] <jibel> but it's a bit childish :)
[14:07] <balloons> jibel, interesting to know! :-)
[14:21] <cyphermox> infinity: I did
[14:21] <davmor2> jibel: oem fails hard
[14:23] <seb128> hey there
[14:23] <seb128> ubuntu-system-settings has some flacky tests, which I'm trying to look at
[14:24] <seb128> we use self.main_view.pointing_device.click_object() calls on listitems
[14:24] <seb128> but sometime it seems that the tap doesn't work properly
[14:24] <seb128> like onClicked: is not called for the item and the text/selection color in the UI is not changed
[14:24] <seb128> is that a known issue/any hint on how to debug?
[14:24] <seb128> kenvandine, ^
[14:25] <kenvandine> seb128, thx!
[14:25] <seb128> kenvandine, yw!
[14:25] <kenvandine> i'm wondering if missing that is causing other our general flakyness we've been experiencing lately
[14:31] <cyphermox> davmor2: I do get sound in the installer...
[14:32] <cyphermox> in qemu
[14:32] <cyphermox> I can try hardware as well
[14:32] <davmor2> cyphermox: I'm testing on hardware here
[14:32] <davmor2> cyphermox: HP g62 normally it works
[14:32] <cyphermox> ok, let me write this to a USB key and try again
[14:33] <cyphermox> sounds like it might not be the installer though
[14:41] <Captonjamason> hell
[14:41] <Captonjamason> hello
[14:43] <Captonjamason> can i get some help with LFS
[14:43] <Captonjamason> or would i move to a offtopic
[15:00] <fgimenez> elopio, didn't know about that flake8 bug, thanks :)
[15:04] <cyphermox> davmor2: and you had a pointer in OEM install?
[15:06] <cyphermox> AH! think I just noticed a pattern here
[15:07] <elopio> fgimenez: it's new.
[15:07] <davmor2> cyphermox: I have left the last run in the oem desktop incase you need logs and stuff for the bugs
[15:07] <elopio> but I have opened many. Now I will try to stick with this one, reopening projects if they regress.
[15:08] <cyphermox> davmor2: not sure what you mean there
[15:08] <elopio> fgimenez: that qakit project's trunk is still under thomi's profile.
[15:08] <elopio> not sure how to change that.
[15:08] <elopio> fgimenez: oh cool, you took the address book :) Thanks.
[15:09] <fgimenez> elopio, i feel in the flake8 mood this friday :)
[15:09] <elopio> fgimenez: the hard part with this is to get all the reviews, like cat herding.
[15:09] <elopio> fgimenez: when you are done with that, you can ask renatu in #ubuntu-touch for the review.
[15:09] <davmor2> cyphermox: I have a cursor
[15:10] <cyphermox> on real hardware?
[15:10] <davmor2> cyphermox: yes
[15:10] <cyphermox> I did not
[15:10] <davmor2> I'm moving it around the screen now
[15:10] <fgimenez> elopio, ok thx, about qakit, i see that in code -> configure code hosting it mentions thomi's branch
[15:10] <davmor2> cyphermox: tis another breakage then
[15:10] <cyphermox> also, reboot works in a live image, but fails in install-only
[15:10] <cyphermox> that's the pattern
[15:10] <elopio> fgimenez: yes, but if I move it, will I break your MP?
[15:10] <davmor2> cyphermox: it's getting worse not better dude stop touching it :)
[15:11] <cyphermox> also, I loathe systemd
[15:11] <fgimenez> elopio, don't know, there are other mps too
[15:12] <davmor2> cyphermox: no really did you every think it might hate you too?
[15:12] <cyphermox> I'm starting to
[15:12] <davmor2> cyphermox: hate it back it works for me
[15:13] <cyphermox> I wish it a fiery death
[15:13] <cyphermox> in the heat of a thousand suns
[15:14] <davmor2> cyphermox: don't forget the and it's ashes drop into the blackhole of oblivion
[15:14] <cyphermox> well, there wouldn't be any ashes.
[15:15] <cyphermox> stars tend to destroy most atoms :)
[15:15] <cyphermox> so, now on to the actual oem install
[15:20] <cyphermox> davmor2: I have sound and I have the oem icon
[15:20] <cyphermox> are you sure you were on 20150417?
[15:20] <cyphermox> 20150416 would have been very broken
[15:25] <elopio> oh crap, I missed the standup.
[15:25] <davmor2> cyphermox: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/oem-mode.png
[15:28] <cyphermox> what is this supposed to show?
[15:45] <davmor2> cyphermox: lack of oem icon, the fact I'm in oem desktop mode and that my davmor2 wifi connection isn't shown
[15:45] <cyphermox> ok
[15:46] <cyphermox> well, I don't know like this why it might have happened, things are looking fine here in a VM and I can't do an OEM install for now, for lack of hardware to do it on
[15:47] <davmor2> cyphermox: yes so this is after the install
[15:47] <cyphermox> right
[15:47] <davmor2> cyphermox: this isn't live session
[15:47] <cyphermox> but then what about the sound and reboot?
[15:47] <cyphermox> tbh those would be my priority for now
[15:48] <davmor2> cyphermox: reboot was an Issue still I had to hard power down the system
[15:48] <cyphermox> can you make sure you're running on vivid-desktop 2015-04-17
[15:48] <cyphermox> or let me know exactly which image you used
[15:48] <cyphermox> I can reproduce the reboot issue, it looks like it's only happening if you don't choose a live session
[15:48] <cyphermox> I need to dig in why, trying to convince systemd to log to a serial console right now
[15:50] <davmor2> cyphermox: woooo okay that is weird
[15:51] <davmor2> cyphermox: from the site 20e8bb0dac1df4506309bad377260d18 *vivid-desktop-amd64.iso on my server 8d57a7f4bb63531935f90b457b7f208d iso/daily-live/current/vivid-desktop-amd64.iso however it says there is nothing to update
[15:55] <davmor2> cyphermox: let me delete this image and update again and see what is happening
[16:02] <davmor2> cyphermox: okay now I got the right image so no idea what the hell went on with that
[16:03] <davmor2> cyphermox: I'll see what I can confirm
[16:03] <davmor2> elfy: check your md5sums it seems like zsync might of been playing up
[16:05] <elfy> the xubuntu images are right
[16:14] <cyphermox> rebooting again to try to convince plymouth and systemd to give me useful data.
[16:33] <elopio> dobey: ping. I'm following your hacking file in pay-ui, failing to create the chroot.
[16:33] <elopio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10839516/
[16:33] <elopio> have you seen that?
[16:35] <kenvandine> ubuntu-qa, please see seb128's question from 2 hours ago, he forgot to include the vanguard ping
[16:35] <kenvandine> or i can repeat it if needed
[16:35] <dobey> elopio: i have not seen that, no
[16:41] <elopio> kenvandine: looking...
[16:41] <kenvandine> elopio, thx
[16:41] <elopio> kenvandine: do you have the trace of an error?
[16:41] <kenvandine> not the one he had specifically
[16:42] <kenvandine> but we've had lots of tests failing lately
[16:42] <kenvandine> flaky
[16:42] <kenvandine> and he did some debugging and managed to reproduce it locally on his n7
[16:42] <kenvandine> which i've never been able to do on my mako
[16:42] <elopio> I will look at the code to see if I find something obvious
[16:43] <elopio> kenvandine: any progress with the QML tests?
[16:43] <kenvandine> he made the header title change to "clicked" when it got onClicked in that test
[16:43] <kenvandine> and when it failed, that had never been changed
[16:43] <kenvandine> so it never got onClicked
[16:43] <kenvandine> elopio, no...
[16:44] <kenvandine> we need to get that on our backlog
[16:45] <kenvandine> elopio, so seb128's debugging pointed to sometimes click_object() never actually triggers the onClicked signal
[16:45] <elopio> kenvandine: yes, we need to clean up the autopilot tests in order to make them reliable. For that it's essential to turn many of them into lower level tests.
[16:45] <kenvandine> agreed
[16:45] <jibel> pitti, upgrade test passed with forcing upstart
[16:45] <elopio> kenvandine: click_object simulates an evdev event, which hasn't failed so far.
[16:45] <kenvandine> elopio, it had been reliable for quite a while
[16:45] <elopio> there could be a bug there, but I doubt it. It's more likely that the object we are trying to click is not ready
[16:46] <kenvandine> but in the past 2 weeks or so, we've been getting bit by this
[16:46] <elopio> like not enabled, not listening for the event, or moving.
[16:46] <kenvandine> could be
[16:46] <elopio> kenvandine: generally, that means a missing wait.
[16:46] <kenvandine> but... those tests haven't changed in months
[16:47] <kenvandine> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-deb-autopilot-runner-vivid-mako/2021/testReport/junit/ubuntu_system_settings.tests.test_datetime/TimeDateTestCase/test_same_tz_selection/
[16:47] <kenvandine> elopio, ^^ that's one of them
[16:47] <kenvandine> but not the same as the run seb128 did verifying it never got the onClicked
[16:47] <elopio> kenvandine: thanks, that helps.
[16:48] <kenvandine> it's 2 of the tz_selection tests that seem the most common culprits
[16:48] <kenvandine> but, we've had random failures in others too
[16:48] <kenvandine> like in your branch yesterday
[16:48] <elopio> kenvandine: that's expected with these tests, something in the lower layers gets slower and then we find out that we were assuming things to be fast in some of the helpers.
[16:49] <elopio> the way to survive that is not to duplicate any code at all.
[16:49] <kenvandine> yeah, and hard to debug :/
[16:49] <elopio> then any breakage will require at most one change. Also adding log messages, to make it clear what the test was doing.
[16:50] <elopio> kenvandine: I can help you refactoring the test to make it clearer where it's failing. Probably I won't have more time today to debug it, but we can continue from there on monday.
[16:50] <pitti> jibel: \o/
[16:50] <kenvandine> elopio, thx, ping me or seb128
[16:50] <kenvandine> elopio, seb128 has a device he can repro it on, i don't
[16:51] <kenvandine> it never seems to fail on my device
[16:51] <kenvandine> just in CI
[16:51] <kenvandine> i think seb128 could only repro it on his n7, not mako
[16:51] <kenvandine> all frustrating :/
[16:51] <davmor2> cyphermox: 1 bug down I have volume
[16:52] <wxl> davmor2: elfy: were you guys talking about a bug where the system wouldn't reboot at the end of install?
[16:53] <elfy> wxl: yea
[16:53] <wxl> elfy: we've noticed that too. bug reports?
[16:54] <wxl> ianorlin: did you file a new bug for the system not rebooting at end of install?
[16:54] <elfy> bug 1436715 I guess
[16:54] <wxl> well yeah the fixed one :/
[16:55] <wxl> shouldn't be the exact same bug so much as a regression
[16:55] <ianorlin> wxl I haven't yet I realized it might be an sd card and havn't tested since then
[16:55] <wxl> ianorlin: yeah doesn't sound like it
[16:56] <elopio> kenvandine: ok, firt obvious thing that is wrong, you are calling one test from another test.
[16:57] <elopio> that's asking for trouble. The tests should be independent, and they should have only one action and one assertion. That goes against both :)
[16:58] <kenvandine> ugh... which test is that?
[16:58] <kenvandine> i've never really looked at the tz tests
[16:58] <elopio> test_same_tz_selection
[16:58] <elopio> kenvandine: second thing, checking that when you select the same tz doesn't show you a different page is something you should do on QML.
[16:59] * kenvandine looks
[16:59] <elopio> that's a feature of your widgets, it's not a user goal. I make the distinction with a question like this: would a user open my app just to set the time zone twice?
[17:00] <kenvandine> yeah
[17:00] <elfy> wxl: not worried too much about it - people are aware of the issue
[17:00] <elopio> if yes, that's a user story and should be automated at a high level, with autopilot.
[17:00] <elopio> if no, that's something you should test at a lower level, maybe in cpp, qml or javascript, depending on the feature.
[17:01] <wxl> elfy: cyphermox: meaning we expect the fail to reboot to be fixed by release?
[17:01] <kenvandine> i wonder how many tests we have calling tests
[17:01] <cyphermox> wxl: we'll do everything possible to get it fixed before release
[17:02] <kenvandine> elopio, i know we have tons of tests that have more than one assertion
[17:02] <cyphermox> otherwise it will be in the release notes
[17:02] <elopio> kenvandine: no, only that one. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10839649/
[17:02] <kenvandine> excellent :)
[17:02] <wxl> cyphermox: well then maybe i should make a bug report for it just for the sake of being completist
[17:02] <elopio> kenvandine: I have like an hour I can spend on this. Let me see what I can get done in that time, and I'll ping you back.
[17:03] <kenvandine> elopio, i think the other 1 we see lots of failures in is test_tz_list_initially_empty
[17:03] <elopio> kenvandine: another clear candidate to be downgraded to QML tests.
[17:03] <kenvandine> elopio, oh, not that one
[17:03] <kenvandine> test_manual_tz_selection
[17:04] <kenvandine> that's the other one
[17:04] <kenvandine> so interesting that's the one called from the other
[17:04] <elopio> kenvandine: yes, I imagined as the error you showed me comes from that test.
[17:04] <cyphermox> wxl: sure
[17:05] <elopio> kenvandine: that test is interesting, because it would be good to keep it as a high level test, in autopilot.
[17:05] <kenvandine> test_manual_tz_selection is the test seb128 reproduced failing this morning
[17:05] <elopio> kenvandine: could be many things. Where do you get the list of timezones from?
[17:06] <elfy> wxl: if you do report - I'll edit my QA results then
[17:06] <wxl> elfy: we'll make sure to post here when we got a report
[17:07] <wxl> i'm trying to track down something more lubuntu specific
[17:07] <kenvandine> elopio, i really don't know, i know next to nothing about this whole plugin
[17:07] <kenvandine> Laney and seb128 did this one
[17:08] <kenvandine> - self.assertThat(header.title, Eventually(Equals(_('Time & Date'))))
[17:08] <kenvandine> - self.assertThat(self.tz_page.text, Equals('Europe/London'))
[17:08] <kenvandine> + self.assertThat(self.tz_page.text, Eventually(Equals('Europe/London')))
[17:08] <kenvandine> elopio, how do you feel about that?
[17:08] <kenvandine> seems silly to check the page title there
[17:08] <kenvandine> and maybe using Eventually will make it wait for it to change
[17:08] <davmor2> cyphermox: pressing enter does nothing
[17:09] <davmor2> so that bug is still valid
[17:09] <wxl> davmor2: the symptoms are similar, but it's a regression, so it really should be a new bug
[17:09] <kenvandine> maybe they put the check for the title there as a way to make it wait
[17:10] <kenvandine> but perhaps that's racy
[17:10] <davmor2> cyphermox: on arriving at the oem desktop I see the icon I am not however connected to the wifi as expected, this time at least it is showing my ap \o/
[17:11] <cyphermox> oh, pressing enter is doing something alright
[17:11] <cyphermox> it's making me insane. :)
[17:11] <elfy> lol
[17:12] * davmor2 presses enter again to see if turn cyphermox into a flying rage monkey
[17:12] <cyphermox> wxl: in your bug mention it's only happening for the non-live session
[17:12] <jibel> pitti, bug 1358203 is the bug that makes python import test fail
[17:12] <wxl> good point. we'll double check, cyphermox
[17:12] <cyphermox> davmor2: more like flying-animal guano-crazy ;D
[17:13] <cyphermox> wxl: that has been my discovery so far
[17:13] <cyphermox> fortunately pitti is right here
[17:13] <elfy> wxl: I would have looked at Lubuntu when I was checking others if the image was new
[17:13] <cyphermox> I'll need his help to figure this out, it's more systemd deep magic
[17:13] <pitti> jibel: ah, thanks
[17:14] <elfy> cyphermox: ohhh - so we blame pitti :p
[17:15] * wxl throws cyphermox's monkeys at pitti
[17:15] <davmor2> cyphermox: that brings us full circle to JamesTait's morning greeting of Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Bat Appreciation Day! :-D and my reply JamesTait: close enough right https://www.pinterest.com/pin/135319163775397306/
[17:18] <davmor2> damn it I'm still in OEM Configuration (temporary user) mode it's not been removed only the app
[17:19] <davmor2> I see the new user setup though
[17:19] <elfy> davmor2: oh - I tried that oem thing - new one on me - I saw that happen, you're not going mad
[17:21] <cyphermox> so, I'm not reproducingthe right bug here in a VM
[17:21] <cyphermox> it just complains that there is no splash to show
[17:21] <cyphermox> will need to reboot yet again
[17:23] <davmor2> elfy No I'm going flying-mammal guano-crazy along with cyphermox
[17:23] <elopio> kenvandine: I would prefer to understand the cause before putting a patch.
[17:23] <kenvandine> sure
[17:24] <elopio> and the screenshot of the failure shows me that the item was not clicked, so it would fail anyway.
[17:24] <elfy> davmor2: I'm grabbing some popcorn and a comfy seat to watch you both :p
[17:24] <elopio> probably, the wait needs to be while the query is being made.
[17:24] <elopio> kenvandine: if you are getting the list from a web service, it makes sense for it to fail sometimes, when the service is slow.
[17:25] <elopio> I'm digging a little in the code...
[17:26] <kenvandine> elopio, oh, i'm sure the data is local somewhere
[17:27] <elopio> we need a new idea then :)
[17:28] <kenvandine> i think it comes via dbus
[17:28] <kenvandine> org.freedesktop.timedate1
[17:29] <kenvandine> or maybe that's just for setting it
[17:30] <elopio> kenvandine: when I build the project, where is the SystemSettings qml module?
[17:30] <kenvandine> you mean in the builddir?
[17:30] <elopio> kenvandine: yes, which folder in there?
[17:31] <kenvandine> lib/SystemSettings/
[17:35] <elopio> kenvandine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10839819/
[17:36] <elopio> what am I doing wrong there? I always have a hard time with the qml imports.
[17:36] <kenvandine> i've never tried running it that way :)
[17:36] <kenvandine> one sec
[17:37] <kenvandine> oh
[17:38] <kenvandine> the timedate plugin is in builddir/plugins/time-date
[17:40] <kenvandine> but it's not going to be able to load it like that
[17:41] <kenvandine> elopio, we have some magic in the plugin interface to load the private libs, not sure how
[17:41] <elopio> kenvandine: hum, we need that to test each qml in isolation.
[17:42] <kenvandine> they aren't public qml components, they are private
[17:42] <kenvandine> so the settings container does some magic to load them
[17:43] <cprofitt> hey all... trying to report this bug so it can get looked at before release.
[17:44] <cprofitt> when I empty trash I got the confirmation dialog and file window popping up.
[17:44] <elopio> kenvandine: I'm going for lunch. bbs.
[17:44] <cprofitt> wxl: suggested reporting against the file manager... anyone else want to weigh in?
[17:46] <elfy> cprofitt: can confirm at least, probably nautilus would be the right package
[17:47] <cprofitt> yeah, but only happens when I use the launcher
[17:50] <wxl> cprofitt: i'd just file against the file manager. we can always re-file if needed after we dig deeper
[17:50] <cprofitt> ok
[17:50] <wxl> well, not re-file; re-attribute?
[17:53] <elfy> wandering off now, wxl I'll check your tracker results later to see if you've filed
[17:53] <elfy> that new bug
[17:53] <cprofitt> ok
[17:53] <cprofitt> filing now
[17:53] <wxl> elfy: okie dokie
[17:53] <wxl> thx cprofitt :)
[17:54] <cprofitt> wxl elfy https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1445595
[17:55] <wxl> cprofitt: elfy and i are probably two of the worst people to help push this forward as we are flavor leads. cyphermox or balloons might be of more help. you might want to see if anyone at #ubuntu+1 can help
[17:56] <elfy> thanks cprofitt - confirming that
[17:56] <elfy> bbl
[18:01] <ianorlin> although could that be with gvfs it might also effect lubuntu
[18:02] <kenvandine> elopio, i refactored out the call to the other test and made it more "wait" friendly, waiting for a CI run now to see if we're barking up the right tree
[18:02] <ianorlin> but doesn't effect pcmanfm
[18:02] <kenvandine> elopio, for seb128's case, it couldn't be waiting for the model, he was able to see the result filtered
[18:03] <kenvandine> but it listview item never go the onClicked
[18:03] <kenvandine> elopio, so could even be something in wait_select_listview_first
[18:06] <kenvandine> elopio, or wait_select_listview_first before the listview has a populated model
[18:06] <balloons> cprofitt, I'm not seeing empty trash in the launcher :-(
[18:07] <kenvandine> elopio, but i'm not seeing the exception raised from wait_select_listview_first
[18:07] <cprofitt> balloons: what do you mean - you are not seeing the behavior or you do not see the trash icon in the launcher?
[18:07] <balloons> cprofitt, ohh.. lol the trash icon, got it
[18:07] <balloons> I thought you meant on nautilus icon
[18:10] <cprofitt> I am trying to find the file that creates the action menu... I am guessing that is what is borked
[18:12] <cprofitt> balloons: any idea where that file is located?
[18:15] <ianorlin> bug 1445592 is the new one I filed for no restart at that final splash screen
[18:20] <balloons> cprofitt, I'm afraid not
[18:23] <cprofitt> wxl: I appreciate the help none the less
[18:23] <dobey> elopio: that error doesn't even make any sense to me, fwiw. why would "click chroot create" even care about the pay-ui trunk directory?
[18:23] <cprofitt> balloons: any chance you can triage that bug so it can get upstream to the deves?
[18:25] <elopio> dobey: I don't understand. It's like it umounts my /home/elopio.
[18:25] <wxl> elfy: cyphermox: balloons: see above for that restart now bug
[18:25] <wxl> cprofitt: balloons: interesting that elfy could confirm it
[18:25] <dobey> elopio: yeah, no idea
[18:25] <balloons> cprofitt, bdmurray tagged it and set importance already looks like
[18:34] <elopio> kenvandine: ok. I don't think I can get much done on the QML side without being able to launch the qml from qmlscene.
[18:35] <elopio> dobey: do you know who maintains click? is it mvo?
[18:36] <dobey> i think it might be now, yes
[18:39] <cprofitt> bdmurray: thanks for adding the tag.
[20:39] <elopio> dobey: do you still have the problem of qemu dying during the adt-run?
[20:39] <elopio> I've just gotten this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10840692/
[20:40] <dobey> elopio: i always get qemu being killed at the end, when the tests are successful. i think that's just adt-run killing it
[20:41] <dobey> elopio: i don't get the weird python backtrace about unicode in testtools any more, when using my ppa with the new testtools, though
[20:41] <elopio> dobey: ah, maybe I'm not getting my results because I'm not collecting them :)
[20:42] <dobey> that could be :)
[20:43] <dobey> elopio: use --setup-commands "add-apt-repository ppa:dobey/testtools" immediately before the -U argument, and it'll install the new testtools to run the tests under, so you get all the proper attachments and no crazy crashes when the tests fail
[20:43] <elopio> dobey: cool.
[20:43] <elopio> I love that this now exports the xvfb display.
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"DF__",
"DanChapman",
"Elleo",
"TestDeveloper",
"ahoneybun",
"alesage",
"beuno",
"charles",
"nik90",
"ogra_",
"pack_code",
"popey",
"renatu",
"sverzegnassi",
"vitimiti",
"zsombi_"
],
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"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:34",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-app-devel.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
|
[06:00] <DanChapman> morning all
[09:33] <pack_code> How do you publish a .deb app on the software center if license is GPL3?
[10:20] <popey> pack_code: same way you publish with an app of any license
[10:27] <pack_code> popey: I tried that
[10:27] <popey> tried what?
[10:28] <pack_code> to publish that way
[10:28] <pack_code> I go t a message
[10:29] <pack_code> popey: Thank you for submitting a gratis Free Software application through MyApps. At this time we are unable to process this request, as we are working on the implementation of a new app upload process.
[10:29] <pack_code> My app is FOSS
[10:29] <popey> Ah okay. It's a free app?
[10:29] <pack_code> popey: FOSS
[10:29] <popey> It can be FOSS and not free :)
[10:29] <popey> But anyway..
[10:29] <pack_code> yes..
[10:29] <popey> I would recommend you upload your application to Debian.
[10:29] <popey> Well, find a debian developer to assist you with that.
[10:29] <pack_code> but will I see it in ubuntu software center
[10:30] <popey> Not immediately.
[10:30] <pack_code> without having to add ppas
[10:30] <pack_code> how long is the review?
[10:30] <popey> But putting it in Debian means it will come to a future Ubuntu release, and other Debian derivatives benefit too.
[10:30] <popey> I don't know. You'd need to speak to a Debian developer
[10:30] <pack_code> retroactive as well?
[10:30] <pack_code> for trusty?
[10:31] <ogra_> trusty is in final freeze
[10:31] <pack_code> damn!
[10:31] <pack_code> I am on utopic
[10:31] <pack_code> do you have a link to the edbian option you mentioned
[10:31] <pack_code> "edbian" meant debian
[10:32] <popey> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html#newpackage
[10:32] <popey> that might be useful
[10:33] <popey> The documentation is comprehensive.
[10:33] <pack_code> it is
[10:33] <pack_code> so there's really no way then, is there?
[10:34] <popey> no way for what?
[10:34] <pack_code> for an app to appear in Ubuntu Software Center
[10:34] <popey> Yes, but not immediately, if it's FOSS
[10:34] <pack_code> I have a launchpad ppa and a bzr recipe
[10:34] <popey> (and free)
[10:34] <pack_code> why is that?
[10:34] <pack_code> I thout Ubuntu was based on free/donations
[10:34] <popey> Long story.
[10:34] <pack_code> 1 sentence
[10:35] <pack_code> any outlook at least?
[10:35] <popey> If you want to appear in the Software Centre, get your package in the Ubuntu archive.
[10:35] <pack_code> how?
[10:35] <popey> to get in the archive, you're better getting in Debian (then everyone benefits)
[10:36] <popey> if you dont want to send to debian, you can submit to Ubuntu, but it won't go to Trusty archive, as that's already shipped.
[10:36] <pack_code> sure
[10:36] <popey> you could get it in W (15.10) when that releases, then request a backport
[10:36] <pack_code> I could live w/o trusty
[10:36] <popey> but honestly, going to debian is better.
[10:36] <pack_code> could work
[10:36] <pack_code> just what is the procedure
[10:36] <popey> s/releases/opens/
[10:36] <pack_code> huh?
[10:36] <popey> Well, the archive for W isn't open yet.
[10:36] <popey> 15.10 hasn't even begun yet.
[10:37] <ahoneybun> soon
[10:37] <pack_code> I see its not that time of April yet
[10:37] <popey> Close to when 15.04 releases, the archive for 15.10 will open.
[10:37] <pack_code> so does the software center automatically pick up debian archives or does one have to configure something like "multiverse"
[10:37] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[10:38] <popey> No.
[10:38] <popey> USC shows what's in the archive, main, restricted, universe, multiverse
[10:38] <pack_code> That is very useful....
[10:38] <pack_code> popey: thanks man!
[10:39] <popey> However, I would still urge you to submit to debian, unless it's an Ubuntu specific app.
[10:39] <pack_code> it's actually gnome-shell
[10:39] <pack_code> game
[10:39] <pack_code> wanna see?
[10:39] <popey> sure.
[10:40] <pack_code> https://launchpad.net/puzzl main site
[10:41] <pack_code> popey: https://launchpad.net/~itprojects/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+files/puzzl_1.0%2Br4%7Eubuntu14.10.1_amd64.deb
[10:43] <pack_code> popey: there was a debian import freeze on feb19
[10:44] <popey> but it could go into the next release
[10:44] <pack_code> popey: that's the boat I missed
[10:44] <popey> bummer
[10:44] <pack_code> I know, maybe on the next time the Titanic makes a stop somewhere
[10:46] <popey> heh
[10:46] <pack_code> popey: thanks for the brainstom
[10:47] <popey> np
[10:47] <pack_code> have a nice day!
[10:47] <popey> you too
[11:15] <zsombi_> nik90: ping
[11:15] <zsombi_> nik90: I'm back on alarm ID
[11:16] <zsombi_> nik90: I managed to launch teh clock app on my vivid :)
[11:18] <nik90> zsombi_: hey
[11:18] <nik90> zsombi_: ooh nice
[11:19] <zsombi_> nik90: so, I managed to crash teh app only ince, and I cannot reprodice it anymore...
[11:19] <zsombi_> once
[11:20] <nik90> zsombi_: I just got a email notification about the alarm-id MP and realized that I mentioned my test results to you on IRC that day but failed to comment on the MP.
[11:21] <nik90> zsombi_: From what I remember, even after switching to the memory backend, I did observe some strange behavior with respect to the bottom edge tab not being aware of the alarm changes..as if a signal wasn't fired
[11:21] <nik90> zsombi_: I couldn't reproduce this on every try, but it happened more or less 6 out of 10 times.
[11:23] <zsombi_> nik90: so th ebottom edge connects to some model signal?
[11:24] <nik90> zsombi_: well the bottom edge periodically (every minute) goes through the alarm model and calculates the time to the next closest active alarm.
[11:24] <nik90> zsombi_: but it seems that the alarm model variable doesn't seem to be updated (I think(
[11:25] <zsombi_> nik90: I cannot repro that... :(
[11:26] <nik90> zsombi_: I will test it once more with the same test conditions as before
[11:26] <zsombi_> nik90: this si weird... the bottom edge label fetches the alarm model every time o move the window...
[11:27] <zsombi_> nik90: good. I've updated the MR, synced with staging now
[11:27] <nik90> zsombi_: on the phone probably that equates to the app getting focus again
[11:28] <zsombi_> nik90: perhaps...
[11:28] <nik90> zsombi_: the reason we do that is quite important...if an alarm goes off, the indicator-datetime disables it (for one-time alarm cases). However the clock app ui did not update to reflect that. So I had to add the code where when the clock app gets focus, we recheck the alarm model
[11:28] <zsombi_> nik90: but we shoudl do sthing about that
[11:29] <nik90> zsombi_: that was the best solution we could come up with at the time..I remember discussing this UI not updating issue when I implemented the solution.
[11:33] <zsombi_> nik90: right... and that can stay as is
[11:33] <zsombi_> nik90: what we could do is to have some LiveTime{} component which woudl also trigger a signal to give you the next upcomming alarm
[11:35] <nik90> zsombi_: yeah that would be handy..would save the clock app from polling the alarm model unnecessarily
[11:38] <nik90> zsombi_: if this LiveTime{} component lands in 1.3, would that be in vivid or vivid+1 ?
[11:38] <zsombi_> nik90: 1.2 is vivid, 1.3 is v+1 :)
[11:40] <zsombi_> nik90: but I'm affraid we cannot get this alarm ID to 1.2 :(
[11:40] <zsombi_> so it has to go to 1.3
[11:41] <zsombi_> but I'll discuss this today with pmcgowan
[11:42] <nik90> zsombi_: its not critical to land this in 1.2 but the fact that i-dt and EDS landed their required fixes in vivid makes their effort go wasted
[11:42] <nik90> sure, let me know what comes out of it
[11:42] <zsombi_> nik90: exactly...
[11:42] <zsombi_> The MR was ready and I could not find anything, so it should have landed :/
[11:49] <vitimiti> I have followed this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Translations to set up the translation options for my project. Now I would like to translate the Spanish part myself, is there a way I can do this or should I just let the Ubuntu team do it?
[12:04] <sverzegnassi> hi all! is it safe to add some custom extension to the manifest.json file (i'm talking about UITK app)? i've seen a few core apps have some.
[12:10] <popey> sverzegnassi: yeah, the core apps have them for autopilot under x-test, and I believe they are just ignored
[12:10] <popey> you might want to run click-reviewer-tools over them though, and you'll probably just get warnings
[12:10] <popey> (also, sverzegnassi you have mail) :D
[12:11] * nik90 is ecstatic..he just got his insider's BQ Device!
[12:12] <sverzegnassi> popey: yes, i'd like to add some info in the manifest for one of my app just because i'm lazy and i've built an AboutPage that grab the info from there
[12:12] <sverzegnassi> popey: yes, I've seen the mail. at the moment i'm not at home, and I don't remember all the details
[12:13] <Elleo> nik90: awesome :)
[12:13] <DanChapman> nik90: \o/
[12:17] <nik90> :)
[12:30] <popey> sverzegnassi: ok
[14:29] <zsombi_> nik90: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10838872/
[14:29] <zsombi_> nik90: sometimes I am getting a crash at the point when I launch the app on desktop
[14:29] <zsombi_> nik90: I have a comment about that so there's some GLib call you have there...
[14:32] <zsombi_> nik90: but still, seems if I do not cache the alarms, then I don't get crashes... though the first crash I got when the cache was taken away... I have to check how to get this more stable
[14:32] <zsombi_> but next week
[14:32] <nik90> zsombi_: hmm strange..I will look through AlarmPage.qml;
[14:33] <nik90> zsombi_: I don't even load anything in alarmpage.qml..just normal qtquick and ubuntu component imports
[14:33] <zsombi_> nik90: there's something after onCompleted...
[14:33] <zsombi_> nik90: do you have anything else which would cause some GLib calls?
[14:34] <nik90> zsombi_: clock app has a c++ plugin which uses Qtdbus to communicate to indicator-datetime..that's about it
[14:34] <zsombi_> aham... well, I'll go off now, I'll check it next week
[14:35] <nik90> zsombi_: ok..I will take the weekend to do some investigation
[14:37] <zsombi_> nik90: ouh! If I run the app with ALARM_BACKEND=memory, it crashes every time!!!
[14:38] <zsombi_> nik90: !!!!! QOrganizerManager::availableManagers().contains(envManager) crashes!!!
[14:38] <zsombi_> renatu: ^
[14:40] <renatu> zsombi_, probably you have a broken qorganizer plugin installed
[14:40] <zsombi_> renatu: hmmm! only me? It used to crash for nik90 as well...
[14:41] <nik90> zsombi_: true but it crashes only once or twice for me and it was a week or two ago?
[14:41] <renatu> zsombi_, I got this when I have a a memory or a eds plugin installed but built with a different qt version
[14:42] <zsombi_> nik90: renatu: if I remove that line of code, I do no longer get any crashes...
[14:42] <zsombi_> renatu: oh, f*k!
[14:44] <zsombi_> WTF??! qtdeclarative5-qtorganizer-plugin:
[14:44] <zsombi_> Installed: 5.0~git20140515~29475884-0ubuntu9
[14:44] <zsombi_> Candidate: 5.0~git20140515~29475884-0ubuntu9
[14:44] <zsombi_> Version table:
[14:44] <zsombi_> *** 5.0~git20140515~29475884-0ubuntu9 0
[14:44] <zsombi_> 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid/universe amd64 Packages
[14:44] <zsombi_> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[14:44] <zsombi_> renatu: ^ look at that? is it really
[14:45] <zsombi_> renatu: is the plugin still qtdeclarative5-qtorganizer-plugin?
[14:45] <renatu> yes
[14:46] <zsombi_> renatu: and is it true that has not been built with 5.4.1?
[14:46] <zsombi_> renatu: what's yours?
[14:47] <renatu> zsombi_, I build it from source
[14:47] <zsombi_> ok, that's not a ref point then...
[14:53] <renatu> zsombi_, check the files on your: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/organizer/
[14:53] <renatu> zsombi_, try remove one by one, to see which one is broken
[16:07] <nik90> charles: ping
[16:07] <charles> nik90: pong
[16:08] <nik90> charles: hey, can you get a MP to change the default alarm silence after duration to 10 minutes as specified by mpt?
[16:09] <nik90> charles: I was suppose to change the wording in the clock app side, and I will get a MP for that in my end
[16:09] <charles> nik90, alarm-duration-minutes is already 10 minutes in trunk?
[16:09] <nik90> s/suppose/supposed
[16:10] <nik90> charles: oh..I haven't tested clock app on vivid for sometime ...that's why I may have missed that
[17:00] <charles> nik90, ping me if it's not working for you, but the default should be 10 now
[17:04] <nik90> charles: just flashed latest vivid, and I see the default as 10 mins
[17:04] <charles> nik90, \o/
[17:05] <nik90> :)
[17:28] <TestDeveloper> hello
[17:29] <TestDeveloper> I want to create a new provider for owncloud. Is there a tutorial to do this?
[19:03] <popey> renatu: seen bug 1445586 from alesage ? "error" : "error code from SyncEvolution remote, status 400: REPORT 'meta data': bad HTTP status: <status 1.1, code 400, class 4, Bad Request>"
[19:03] <popey> :(
[19:15] <renatu> popey, are you using the version from silo?
[19:15] <popey> renatu: it wasn't me
[19:16] <renatu> yes the fix did not land yet
[19:16] <alesage> renatu, from a fresh vivid flash, using calendar from the store
[19:17] <renatu> alesage, if you want that working you need to get syncevolution from the silo
[19:17] <popey> ahh
[19:36] <alesage> popey, not sure what the process is here, may need a new silo and/or your advice
[22:53] <DF__> HI
[22:53] <DF__> can some one help me out??
[22:54] <beuno> DF__, what's up?
[22:54] <DF__> i have some problems with a mysql conection
[22:55] <beuno> DF__, on the ubuntu phone?
[22:55] <DF__> yep
[22:55] <DF__> and the development
[22:56] <DF__> bueno, i can't install the lib on my nexus 4
[23:03] <DF__> ...
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-devel
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{
"authors": [
"Laney",
"Noskcaj",
"aeoril",
"aschildbach",
"cyphermox",
"doko",
"flexiondotorg",
"infinity",
"nagromlt",
"pitti",
"tjaalton"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-devel",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:35",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-devel.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
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[04:40] <nagromlt> I want to develope something for Ubuntu
[05:59] <Noskcaj> nagromlt, Then do that ;)
[05:59] <Noskcaj> I don't have time to help you right now, but the info is out there
[08:10] <aschildbach> Hi everyone!
[09:49] <flexiondotorg> Could a sponsor please take a look at - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1439388
[12:34] <aeoril> infinity were you still going to have me do some writing?
[12:34] <aeoril> infinity ^
[13:38] <pitti> Good morning
[13:49] <infinity> aeoril: Quite possibly, if you poke me next week.
[14:27] <tjaalton> doko: the binutils trusty sru seems to have a weird version (-5u13 vs -5u3.1 in -security)?
[14:56] <tjaalton> pitti: hm might have rejected the ubuntu-drivers-common upload too hastily :/
[14:56] <pitti> tjaalton: you can always grab it from the rejected queue again
[14:56] <tjaalton> ah
[14:56] <tjaalton> ok
[14:56] <pitti> tjaalton: but I can also reupload, and add a -v, I didn't look at this yet
[15:00] <tjaalton> pitti: oh I was right afterall, so yeah reupload :)
[15:06] <pitti> tjaalton: wow, 1:<IP_ADDRESS> hasn't been verified since Dec 10??
[15:06] <tjaalton> yeah I just updated it..
[15:06] <tjaalton> oh since dec 10, so over four months then
[15:06] <pitti> tjaalton: reuploaded
[15:07] <tjaalton> thx, I'll ack it and hope the other bug is verified soon
[15:07] <pitti> tjaalton: cheers
[15:21] <pitti> infinity: FYI, langpacks built and tested, looking good; uploading/self-accepting now
[15:32] <infinity> pitti: Ta.
[15:33] <doko> tjaalton, yes, it had a few iterations in the ubuntu-toolchain-r/ppa PPA
[16:19] * Laney wonders why apt just forgot how to verify signatures
[16:45] <pitti> mvo: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/libudev/
[17:25] <aeoril> infinity ok, will do. Thanks.
[20:09] <cyphermox> pitti: so, casper/plymouth are still acting up on the CD; looks like it's because in the only-ubiquity case (ie. not a live session), it's trying to set it up to run just before display-manager rather than replacing it properly
[20:10] <pitti> cyphermox: yes, that's on purpose (direct translation of the upstart unit)
[20:10] <cyphermox> that's broken
[20:10] <pitti> cyphermox: or maybe I'm mixing that up with oem-setup
[20:10] <cyphermox> then display-manager will try to start at the same time as things are trying to shutdown
[20:10] <pitti> that at least should run, then lightdm should start
[20:10] <cyphermox> lightdm should never start after ubiquity's install
[20:11] <cyphermox> would you have a chance to take a look?
[20:11] <pitti> cyphermox: ah, ok; so Conflicts=display-manager.service?
[20:11] <cyphermox> specifically, ubiquity.service
[20:11] <cyphermox> no
[20:11] <cyphermox> I think it needs to outright replace display-manager as the display-manager, since that's what it's doing anyway
[20:11] <pitti> or that
[20:12] <pitti> Alias=display-manager.service ?
[20:12] <cyphermox> possibly
[20:13] <pitti> (sorry, talking here)
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.575482
| 2015-04-17T00:00:00
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-installer
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{
"authors": [
"cyphermox",
"davmor2",
"flexiondotorg"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-installer",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:36",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-installer.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
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[09:53] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, infinity - The reboot after install issue is not fixed as far as I can tell.
[09:53] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, infinity - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1436715
[09:53] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, infinity I have done test installs in VirtualBox and real hardware.
[09:54] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, infinity - VirtualBox guest locks up, does not present an Eject media option.
[09:54] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, infinity - Real hardware does present Eject media but locks up once ENTER is pressed.
[11:08] <davmor2> cyphermox: when you are about I'm running some tests on iso's today. In oem mode ubiquity installer mode the volume looks to be permanently muted, I will try with a standard in mode and let you know if it is permanent muted on the oem desktop and end user desktop too
[11:18] <davmor2> cyphermox: next the machine is still not rebooting on when you hit enter
[11:19] <davmor2> cyphermox: next issue there seems to be no End User Setup icon on the oem desktop
[11:21] <davmor2> cyphermox: network manager is not seeing my Wifi AP even though it did in setup session
[14:20] <cyphermox> davmor2: I'll run tests again here, but I thought I tried oem yesterday; it got broken because reasons
[14:21] <davmor2> cyphermox: I got bugs in u-quality
[14:21] <cyphermox> aye
[14:42] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I'm going to test oem-config again now.
[14:43] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, You saw my earlier comment about reboot at end of install now working?
[14:43] <cyphermox> there are conflicting reports to that effect
[14:43] <cyphermox> it's not working every time, it seems
[14:44] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Are you referring to the reboot issues? ^^^
[14:45] <cyphermox> yes
[14:45] <flexiondotorg> I've tested of several machines (real and virtual) and it has not worked :(
[14:53] <cyphermox> rebooting, going to run some testing on hardware, and all I have is my laptop
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| 2015-04-17T00:00:00
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-ops
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{
"authors": [
"IdleOne",
"Pici",
"genii",
"k1l",
"mappps",
"phunyguy"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-ops",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:37",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-ops.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
|
[05:40] <mappps> Hello
[05:40] <mappps> My names mappps i would like to be unbanned from ubuntu-offtopic
[05:40] <mappps> it makes me sad being banned;/
one my customer have this (weird) os and he's reporting,.....
[14:52] <k1l> last time it was "his friend" and after that he made a lot of drama even on the mailinglist
[14:52] <genii> Hm
[16:32] <genii> @comment 67335 Connectivity issue, forwarded to ##fix_your_connection
[17:21] <mappps> Hello
[17:21] <mappps> My names mappps i would like to be unbanned from ubuntu-offtopic
[17:21] <IdleOne> why were you banned?
[17:24] <mappps> phunyguy got annoyed
[17:24] <IdleOne> yeah blaming others for your actions is not going to get you unbanned. Want to try again?
[17:25] <IdleOne> and it wasn't phunyguy who banned you anyway
[17:25] <phunyguy> I was just going to say.... We can't have that in Ubuntu channels. I will remove the ban this time but if this happens again I can assure you that the ban will last a lot longer.
[17:34] <IdleOne> mappps: Do you understand?
[17:34] <mappps> yes
[17:34] <mappps> dont come on irc when ive been out
[17:35] <IdleOne> ban is removed, rejoin -offtopic and part this channel. Thank you for flying AirOne.
[17:35] <mappps> k
[17:36] <IdleOne> @comment #ubuntu-ops mappps warned about his drunken irc'ing and that we will not tolerate his silliness.
[17:37] <IdleOne> @comment #ubuntu-ooftopic mappps warned about his drunken irc'ing and that we will not tolerate his silliness.
[17:37] <IdleOne> @comment #ubuntu-offtopic mappps warned about his drunken irc'ing and that we will not tolerate his silliness.
[17:37] <IdleOne> lol -ooftopic
[17:37] <Pici> oof
[18:00] <genii> Now I want an #ubuntu-ooftopic
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[04:28] <noob_rpi> Hi, I am trying to cross compile a kernel for raspberry pi 2. The deb-pkg build generates an armel.deb instead of armhf.deb. How do I generate the armhf deb?
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[16:35] <qwebirc20659> hi tgm4883. mythbuntu-control-centre works great now on linux mint. thanks again
[16:36] <tgm4883> qwebirc20659: your welcome. Thanks for letting me know of the issue
[16:36] <qwebirc20659> thats ok. if i find anything else i will let you know
[16:38] <Shadow__X> tgm is a wizard at fixing things
[16:39] <qwebirc20659> it seems that way :)
[16:40] <qwebirc20659> good bye and keep up the excellent work. thanks
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[00:31] <sillymoosee> Hi, Kubuntu 15.04 question, I can't seem to get my panel clock to 24hr time. Seems system settings Region page changes have made this difficult. Is there a file I can manually edit?
[00:35] <tuv0k> sillymoosee: I want military time as weill
[00:36] <sillymoosee> tuv0k: No luck eh? Guess it wasn't a priority so far to expose custom date via gui...
[00:37] <tuv0k> no, we can only at present change the zone :(
[00:37] <tuv0k> seems silly
[00:37] <tuv0k> it is always the first thing I change
[00:38] <voidwalker> hey i cant find wine 1.7.40 in wine team ppa. what can i do?
[00:45] <mparillo> sillymoosee: This is the bug I raised: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340982
[00:46] <mparillo> tuv0k: You can vote for it also ^^^
[00:49] <tuv0k> nice
[00:50] <sillymoosee> mparillo: Thanks for link, that is amazingly LAME. If there's on regression area bound to make users mad, its regional customizations.
[00:50] <sillymoosee> I forsee a lot of user complaints and questions on release hitting forums and IRC...
[00:51] <GunnDawg> When does 15.04 release?
[01:02] <tuv0k> GunnDawg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule
[01:54] <sillymoosee> tuv0k: don't forget to vote on bug, I gave my 2 cents. Off to restore my 14.04 image, I think KDE 5 may need some more work.
[01:54] <darthanubis> i did
[01:54] <darthanubis> you gave more than .02
[01:55] <darthanubis> yeah, can't logout, babloo_file is a monster
[03:43] <GunnDawg> How can I go about changing the "Favorites" and "Recently Used" icons under the K Menu?
[06:56] <Aristide> Hellow :)
[06:57] <Aristide> I have a problem :
[06:57] <Aristide> I have disable WiFi from Plasma5 but I can't enable it
[06:58] <Aristide> When I check "WiFi" checkbox, the list is empty
[06:58] <GunnDawg> I had network issues with 14.04 but have resolved them. Scared to switch to 15.04 now :(
[06:59] <Aristide> I'm on 15.04 ^^
[06:59] <Aristide> Hello GunnDawg :)
[07:00] <GunnDawg> I know you are, you said Plasma5, I assumed you were using 15.04
[07:00] <Aristide> Wut N
[07:00] <Aristide> Wut ? * WiFi work oO'
[07:00] <GunnDawg> I'm quite happy with my 14.04 setup :)
[07:01] <Aristide> GunnDawg: But I love Plasma5 / KDE Frameworks 5
[07:02] <GunnDawg> Aristide: I'd wait until its more stable if you're not willing to put up with possible bugs and the process in which to report those and fix them
[07:04] <Aristide> Yes but I like KDE Frameworks 5
[07:04] <GunnDawg> I havent used it
[07:04] <GunnDawg> I'm happy with what I've got :)
[07:05] <soee> good morning
[07:05] <GunnDawg> morning
[07:08] <Aristide> GunnDawg: ^^ KDE 4 ?
[07:08] <GunnDawg> Aristide: yes
[07:09] <GunnDawg> Aristide: 4.13.3
[07:09] <Aristide> Oh :)
[07:09] <Aristide> 5.9 for Frameworks :D
[07:10] <GunnDawg> I prefer a more stable environment
[07:10] <Aristide> Ow
[07:10] <Aristide> Open a LDLC's computer don't break warranty
[07:10] <Aristide> YEAH !
[07:11] <GunnDawg> I alsu use this for my gaming machine. I need it to be stable and smooth
[07:13] <Aristide> GunnDawg: I use for work, play, write, create music ... :3
[07:14] <GunnDawg> cool
[07:38] <xennex81> Aristide: you can use nmcli to troubleshoot a bit
[07:38] <xennex81> nmcli d wifi rescan
[07:38] <xennex81> nmcli d wifi list
[07:39] <Aristide> Ok thank'
[07:39] <valorie> I've heard another report of wifi problems
[07:39] <Aristide> xennex81: But its work now :)
[07:39] <Aristide> xennex81: Reboot computer has been enought ^ '
[07:39] <xennex81> :) nice
[07:40] <xennex81> Even in 14.10 I've had to sometimes shut off network manager and do manual wpa_supplicant because I could not get it to work
[07:40] <xennex81> NM is buggy
[07:40] <xennex81> has nothing to do with 15.04....
[07:41] <xennex81> I have two root partitions now on my system :). One runs Ubuntu Gnome still (14 GB) the other is 20GB and has Kubuntu 15.04 on it
[07:42] <xennex81> I'm thinking to put 14.10 back on the first
[07:42] <xennex81> I think I even dreamt of Kubuntu tonight
[07:53] <sizziff> hello all
[08:30] <xennex81> hi sizziff
[08:51] <gear> hey
[08:55] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:07] <xennex81> morning (afternoon by now) (time goes fast) (or we do)
[12:08] <Ryoma721> ciao
[12:21] <Ryoma721> hi
[12:24] <hateball> Hello Ryoma721, do you have a question?
[12:39] <kde_newbie> hi guys! how can i know from the command line if bluetooth is enabled?
[12:39] <manolo_> ciao
[12:40] <manolo_> scusate ma per avere la lista e scarica come si fa?
[12:44] <romber> Hi guys, do I need to install additional package on kubuntu 14.04
[12:44] <romber> to connect ipsec vpn?
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:47] <lordievader> romber: From what I remember, yes.
[12:48] <romber> well, it's a bad question. My question is.. May I connect ipsec with IKE from Connection editor?
[12:49] <lordievader> If you install the apropiate packages yes.
[12:58] <romber> lordievader, Is there a tutorial? I saw there is a option "OpenSwan" in Connection editor, but I only know the phase1/2 algo and domain
[12:59] <lordievader> Err, what kind of ipsec do you use?
[13:05] <romber> Oh..sorry if I ask a stupid question, I have only very few about vpn. I have a tutorial to connect ipsec VPN for iOS, server/passwd/username/group name and key
[13:06] <lordievader> romber: Server implementations matter, IPSec is implemented differently by different daemons.
[13:07] <romber> s/few/few knowledge
[13:07] <lordievader> While it is a standard, and so things should interoperate, it is easier to use one 'brand' of IPsec. For example Strongswan.
[13:10] <romber> may I connect it if I have those information?
[13:11] <lordievader> romber: What kind of ipsec do you use?
[13:13] <romber> lordievader, Umm, sorry but I don't know.. how to know it ?
[13:15] <lordievader> romber: Do you administer the ipsec server?
[13:16] <romber> No
[13:17] <lordievader> Hmm. I guess that you then need to use the good old method of trial and error.
[13:17] <BluesKaj> romber, is this a free vpn server?
[13:17] <lordievader> Start with OpenSwan or StrongSwan I suppose.
[13:18] <romber> BluesKaj, I'm not sure but I think no.
[13:20] <romber> lordievader, kubuntu 14.04 have build in openswan? because I saw a openswan option in connection editor
[13:21] <lordievader> It's in the strongswan-nm package.
[13:25] <BluesKaj> romber, do yuou have ipsec-utilities installed?
[13:25] <romber> lordievader, OK, I will try it first :) thanks
[13:26] <romber> BluesKaj. yes I have
[13:29] <BluesKaj> does the server use l2tp-ipsec protocol?
[13:31] <romber> umm not sure, if I can connect it via iPad does it means yes?
[13:33] <lordievader> Not necessarily, IOS (7/8) support IKEv2, IKEv1, l2tp for VPN.
[13:36] <BluesKaj> ok , nevermind the tunneling depends on the server protocol
[13:41] <romber> how ipad could got those information automatically?
[13:43] <lordievader> romber: What information? Most you have to specify yourself.
[13:43] <BluesKaj> this isn't ipad support , so I don't know
[14:01] <MichaelTiebesl> hey hello
[14:02] <BluesKaj> hi MichaelTiebesl
[14:03] <MichaelTiebesl> i see to enjoy this channel it also can be with freenode
[14:03] <MichaelTiebesl> i just installed kubuntu 15.04 and saw this channel was first connected with kubuntu irc
[14:03] <BluesKaj> MichaelTiebesl, it's on the freenode server
[14:04] <MichaelTiebesl> BluesKaj: great then i will stay here
[14:04] <MichaelTiebesl> BluesKaj: kubuntu 15.04 is nice
[14:05] <BluesKaj> yes, kubuntu 15.04 support is at #ubuntu+1 chat
[14:05] <BluesKaj> if you need it , MichaelTiebesl
[14:06] <MichaelTiebesl> im also connected to ubuntu
[14:07] <MichaelTiebesl> BluesKaj: cheers
[14:23] <romber> BluesKaj and lordievader, thanks I can connect the VPN server now :). It's a cisco server and seams that only need to install network-manager-vpnc and vpnc
[14:23] <lordievader> romber: Nice, nice.
[16:08] <Ryoma721> hi
[16:08] <BluesKaj> hi Ryoma721
[16:09] <Ryoma721> my problem i think ahci....
[16:12] <Ryoma721> after dist-upgrade, restart black screen
[16:12] <Ryoma721> o freeze desktop (15.04)
[16:13] <Ryoma721> ahci to ide
[16:13] <Ryoma721> now works
[16:30] <Ryoma721> thakns for kubuntu
[17:13] <bob420> cannot ecrypt my home after kubuntu won't start no more. got y
[17:13] <bob420> although i know the mount-pw.. i only see fnek files. (none of the inet tutorial worked out).. help?
[17:17] <bob420> when i use ecryptfs-recover-private only fnek files/directories are shown.
[17:19] <bob420> when i use ecryptfs-mount-private... i can activate use filename encryption.. and it shows me a signature.. that also never works..
[17:20] <bob420> join#ecrptfs
[17:35] <jcjordyn120> hey
[17:36] <drw> jcjordyn120: hi
[17:41] <jcjordyn120> hello
[20:05] <wldcordeiro> Is notify-osd of any use to KDE?
[20:05] <wldcordeiro> It's got some problems for me and I'm wondering if it's okay to remove it.
[20:06] <Etriaph> It seems that a lot of software depends upon it.
[20:06] <Etriaph> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD
[20:06] <wldcordeiro> Etriaph: It keeps getting stuck for me.
[20:06] <wldcordeiro> I don't know why but it'll just stay indefinitely
[20:06] <wldcordeiro> and it's been driving me insane because then I need to go and kill it.
[20:07] <Etriaph> Which version of Kubuntu?
[20:07] <wldcordeiro> I'm on the 15.04 beta
[20:07] <Etriaph> Log a bug.
[20:07] <wldcordeiro> Link?
[20:08] <wldcordeiro> Is it just on launchpad?
[20:08] <Etriaph> On Launchpad.
[20:09] <Etriaph> I'm on a fully up to date 15.04 Beta 2 and I don't get that issue, FYI.
[20:10] <wldcordeiro> I'm on a fully up to date one as well but I installed from Ubuntu with `apt-get install kubuntu-desktop` and then ran `do-release-update -d`
[20:10] <wldcordeiro> So it might be an issue with some configurations.
[20:10] <Etriaph> Potentially.
[20:11] <Etriaph> Oh...
[20:11] <Etriaph> So you're running Ubuntu.
[20:11] <Etriaph> I don't know how base packaging of both together might affect your user experience.
[20:11] <Etriaph> I'm KDE only myself.
[20:12] <wldcordeiro> I ran apt-get remove for ubuntu-desktop
[20:12] <wldcordeiro> to try and remove ubuntu itself.
[20:12] <wldcordeiro> I like KDE a lot more now than I've tried it.
[20:12] <wldcordeiro> I don't know if I want to try a clean install I have a lot of development stuff on the computer that I don't want to set up again. :/
[20:14] <wldcordeiro> s/than/that
[20:15] <Etriaph> What kind of environment do you work in?
[20:15] <Etriaph> Languages and such.
[20:15] <wldcordeiro> Python, JS, Java, Ruby, Rust
[20:16] <Etriaph> I work with Rails, I use Kate for everything pretty much. If I'm doing any Java work I use Netbeans.
[20:16] <Guest33574> Hello all.....i have an old SmartMedia card reader Lexar Media model GS-UFD-20SA-TP and lsusb reads it as Bus 002 Device 003: ID 07cc:0004 Carry Computer Eng., Co., Ltd SM/CF/PCMCIA Card Reader it is not automounting and its FAT16 im pretty sure USB 1.0 or 1.1 or something how do i mount this?
[20:17] <wldcordeiro> Etriaph: What's Kate?
[20:17] <wldcordeiro> I do Java in the sense that I work with Android in Android Studio.
[20:17] <willwork4foo> Hi all - anyone know of a workaround / fix for sddm going black on boot? Kubuntu 14.10 here with KDE Plasma 5.2 installed
[20:18] <Etriaph> Kate = KDE Advanced Text Editor
[20:18] <willwork4foo> Etriaph: I use vi ;-)
[20:18] <Etriaph> willwork4foo: On 15.04 here, never tried plasma in 14.10
[20:18] * willwork4foo is not much of a coder - more of an ugly script mess hack
[20:19] <willwork4foo> Etriaph: I couldn't get 15.04 to install
[20:19] <Etriaph> I use vi from time to time.
[20:19] <willwork4foo> Etriaph: it wouldn't boot post-install
[20:19] <willwork4foo> that's the beta 2
[20:19] <Etriaph> willwork4foo: Working fine for me atm.
[20:19] <willwork4foo> Etriaph: lucky you....
[20:19] <Etriaph> It's actually really stable now.
[20:19] <wldcordeiro> I use Sublime Text primarily with a plugin called Vimperator to give me Vim-like control.
[20:19] <willwork4foo> It didn't seem to want to work at all with encrypted LUKS
[20:19] <Etriaph> willwork4foo: Did you elect to install updates during the install?
[20:20] <willwork4foo> Etriaph: ye
[20:20] <willwork4foo> Etriaph: yes
[20:20] <Etriaph> willwork4foo: I've had a few glitches here and there, yet on my fairly modern hardware it booted up easy.
[20:21] <willwork4foo> Etriaph: I'm running an Asus Vivobook S400CA
[20:21] <willwork4foo> with an SSD hard disk and 8GB of RAM - loving KDE 5 on it
[20:21] <willwork4foo> it's gorgeous
[20:21] <willwork4foo> Sadly, I want SDDM to work and it won't.
[20:22] <willwork4foo> Is it fairly easy to upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 beta 2?
[20:24] <willwork4foo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/Beta2/Kubuntu
[20:24] <Etriaph> I installed but didn't format.
[20:24] <Etriaph> Fresh install.
[20:25] <Etriaph> Your ~/.kde/ folder from your previous install may not migrate well if you upgrade.
[20:25] <willwork4foo> I'll delete it
[20:25] <Etriaph> Some stuff lives in ~/.local too
[20:25] <willwork4foo> I'm removing all my .files - this is a "test" system
[20:26] <Etriaph> *nods*
[20:26] <willwork4foo> it has no actual work or stuff I need
[20:27] <willwork4foo> sudo kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade - seems to be doing the trick so far.
[20:27] <willwork4foo> we shall see.
[20:27] <Etriaph> The only thing Plasma 5 is lacking so far is themes.
[20:28] <willwork4foo> I like the default look
[20:28] <willwork4foo> to be honest
[20:28] <darthanubis> this won't end well
[20:28] <Etriaph> Other than that it seems very reliable, much smoother integration with the login manager.
[20:28] <willwork4foo> it's refreshing and quite clean
[20:28] <willwork4foo> that's sddm
[20:28] <Etriaph> Ya, Breeze is alright. I changed the default colours.
[20:28] <willwork4foo> very nice - and doesn't work on 14.10
[20:28] <willwork4foo> plasma 5 design language reminds me a lot of Android 5 design language
[20:29] <willwork4foo> very similar - pastels, smooth blends and clean lines
[20:29] <Etriaph> willwork4foo: It's flat.
[20:29] <Etriaph> That's the design ideology. :D
[20:29] <willwork4foo> Etriaph: I like that. I was never a fan of skeumorphism and fake-3D
[20:29] <Etriaph> willwork4foo: It's nice, but I'm eager for a QtCurve port to Qt5
[20:30] <willwork4foo> that would be good.
[20:30] <Etriaph> The plasmoid crowd hasn't caught up to it yet either though.
[20:30] <Etriaph> I miss my pastebin plasmoid
[20:31] <willwork4foo> I'm a relative newcomer to KDE - so I've not played with the plasmoids much
[20:31] <willwork4foo> never really needed to
[20:32] <Etriaph> It lets you drag and drop text selections/images onto the drop target and uploads them to a public HTTP server.
[20:32] <willwork4foo> that's quite handy
[20:32] <Etriaph> Very handy. I kinda want to create one for gist
[20:33] <willwork4foo> has to be said though, Plasma 5 is a damn sight smoother and more fluid in the animations than earlier releases
[20:33] <willwork4foo> feels very slick to use.
[20:34] <Etriaph> I would imagine that once we hit full Wayland support it'll be a beautiful thing.
[20:34] <willwork4foo> not far off that now.
[20:34] <Etriaph> I've been running KDE since 0.92
[20:34] <willwork4foo> first time I used KDE was 1.5
[20:35] <willwork4foo> then I left it and ran screaming
[20:35] <Etriaph> LOL
[20:35] <willwork4foo> and used olwm / fluxbox for years
[20:35] <Etriaph> KDE 2.0 was the first version that demonstrated a move towards tight-integration.
[20:35] <Etriaph> I used E for a while.
[20:35] <Etriaph> And Windowmaker.
[20:36] <willwork4foo> I had a look at that
[20:36] <willwork4foo> always preferred fluxbox - I liked the incredible lightweight
[20:36] <Etriaph> On modern workstations those standalone window managers don't shine anymore.
[20:36] <willwork4foo> however, KDE 4.0 looked good enough to play with so I switched back a while ago and moved to Kubuntu - not changing again I think
[20:36] <Etriaph> Sure they're fast, but lacking in features.
[20:36] <willwork4foo> yep.
[20:37] <willwork4foo> I got bored with writing scripts to do things myself
[20:37] <Etriaph> haha
[20:38] <willwork4foo> ok - so it's just told me that it's going to take an hour to install all the packages it's just downloaded
[20:38] <willwork4foo> I'm going to go do something else for a bit - ttfn
[20:38] <Etriaph> Take it easy.
[22:43] <MichaelTiebesl> is there somebody who know where the cantata.conf is based in home in kubuntu?
[22:47] <cup`ocoffee> MichaelTiebesl: did you try locate?
[22:47] <cup`ocoffee> 'locate cantana.conf' ?
[22:48] <MichaelTiebesl> when i use the search in dolphin it said not allowed protocol
[22:48] <MichaelTiebesl> maybe krunner i can try
[22:49] <cup`ocoffee> locate is a great tool
[22:49] <cup`ocoffee> try it on the terminal
[22:49] <cup`ocoffee> like konsole or yakuake
[22:49] <valorie> locate cantata.conf even....
[22:49] <MichaelTiebesl> not found in konsole
[22:50] <MichaelTiebesl> normally it should be in .conf/cantata
[22:50] <cup`ocoffee> actually I don't know what canatana.conf is for…
[22:50] <MichaelTiebesl> these are the settings from cantata
[22:50] <lordievader> cup`ocoffee: Probably for cantata, an mpd client.
[22:51] <MichaelTiebesl> so when i make a new install i only have to replace the previous .conf to have the same settings as before
[22:51] <genii> mmmm coffee
[22:52] <cup`ocoffee> ^^
[22:52] <valorie> MichaelTiebesl: before Plasma 5, most configs are stored in ~/.kde/share/config
[22:52] <valorie> or share/apps
[22:52] <cup`ocoffee> my bad! - I could not find the program in my sources :O - I found it via google now :)
[22:53] <MichaelTiebesl> valorie: correct
[22:53] <valorie> now in ~/.config or ~/.local
[22:53] <valorie> with some kde4 era apps still in .kde
[22:54] <MichaelTiebesl> its not there in plasma5, i tried a few desktops with kde but in kubuntu 15.04 its not there
[22:55] <lordievader> MichaelTiebesl: You could allways use strace...
[22:56] <MichaelTiebesl> lordievader: sorry but what is strace?
[22:57] <lordievader> Program to see in great detail what a program does.
[22:57] <cup`ocoffee> MichaelTiebesl: it is possible that the conf-file has to be made by you
[22:58] <MichaelTiebesl> cup`ocoffee: i made a folder with the cantata.conf but no luck with that
[22:58] <cup`ocoffee> it will be a text-file - and you can copy&paste what the install-file says
[22:58] <cup`ocoffee> did you put text into the file?
[22:59] <cup`ocoffee> i currently opened the README
[22:59] <MichaelTiebesl> no what i do with the conf is replace it with the previous one so i have the same settings as before.
[22:59] <lordievader> It doesn't access any conf file here.
[23:00] <MichaelTiebesl> otherwise i have to configure cantata everytime when i do a fresh install
[23:00] <cup`ocoffee> i have no ubuntu-package for it - I just have the source here…
[23:00] <MichaelTiebesl> so you can see the cantata.conf is more a backup file for the settings.
[23:00] <cup`ocoffee> from kde-apps.org
[23:01] <MichaelTiebesl> cup`ocoffee: right
[23:01] <cup`ocoffee> how did you install cantana?
[23:01] <cup`ocoffee> from kde-apps.org as well?
[23:01] <MichaelTiebesl> and maybe also on github it is
[23:01] <Etriaph> Google Code I think.
[23:01] <MichaelTiebesl> install by muon
[23:01] <cup`ocoffee> ah, ok
[23:01] <Etriaph> The music player?
[23:01] <MichaelTiebesl> Etriaph: yep
[23:02] <Etriaph> Yup, Google Code project.
[23:02] <lordievader> MichaelTiebesl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10841359/ is what cantata accesses here.
[23:04] <cup`ocoffee> lordievader: no conf
[23:04] <MichaelTiebesl> lordievader: but there must be a folder in home also, like in cache there is for cantata for the cache of artist and album.png
[23:04] <MichaelTiebesl> cup`ocoffee: conf should be in home
[23:04] <MichaelTiebesl> i already found the mpd.conf on a weird place in home
[23:07] <cup`ocoffee> 7. Advanced Config Items KDE builds: ~/.kde/share/config/cantatarc ( Current User ) /etc/kde4/cantatarc ( All Users )
[23:07] <cup`ocoffee> that's from the README
[23:07] <MichaelTiebesl> thats kde4 i think
[23:07] <MichaelTiebesl> i use now kubuntu 15.04
[23:08] <cup`ocoffee> sadly my knowledge ends here :D - Good luck! :)
[23:08] <Etriaph> KDE4 apps still run though
[23:09] <valorie> sure, and the configs will be in the same place
[23:09] <valorie> until the app is ported to frameworks
[23:09] <Etriaph> KDE-PIM is still KDE4 I think.
[23:09] <valorie> yes
[23:09] <valorie> one step at a time
[23:10] <Etriaph> They're hard to get a hold of as it turns out. :D
[23:10] <valorie> who?
[23:10] <Etriaph> #kontact is usually dead quiet.
[23:10] <valorie> yes, they are usually in #kde-devel though
[23:10] <Etriaph> Ah, good to know.
[23:10] <valorie> or on the mail list
[23:10] <valorie> also, mostly if not all europeans
[23:10] <Etriaph> Ya, I'm EST.
[23:10] <valorie> so for instance, off for the weekend by now....
[23:14] <cup`ocoffee> ^^
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.611894
| 2015-04-17T00:00:00
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-ke
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"authors": [
"Kilos",
"Tribaal",
"lin"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-ke",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:41",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-ke.txt"
}
|
ubuntu-chat
|
[06:18] <lin> I'm here
[06:18] <lin> kilos
[06:18] <Kilos> hi lin
[06:19] <Kilos> tribaal is in switserland but still hangs here just in case you guys revive
[06:24] <Kilos> lin will you add ubuntu-ke here please https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams
[06:49] <lin> ok
[06:49] <lin> wait..
[06:50] <lin> I think I have a launchpad account..
[06:51] <Kilos> i think add you and Tribaal there as contact
[08:13] <Tribaal> Kilos: you need to change that launchpad icon for Ubuntu Africa :)
[08:14] <Kilos> to what Tribaal
[08:14] <Tribaal> Kilos: also, I would advise making the mailing likst public
[08:14] <Tribaal> Kilos: be creative :) An outline of Africa would be a good start :)
[08:14] <Kilos> will do didnt know it wasnt
[08:14] <Kilos> all of that is in the site we are building
[08:15] <Kilos> you will see the bestest site ever
[08:15] <Tribaal> right, but the launchpad page should/could have a bit more... personality :)
[08:15] <Tribaal> any reason why the team requires approval? It's likely not going to scale very well if you really intend to target a whole continent
[08:15] <Tribaal> :)
[08:15] <Kilos> Tribaal i dont do any of the clever work, the guys at #ubuntu-za are doing it all
[08:16] <Tribaal> hmu
[08:16] <Kilos> hmu?
[08:16] <Kilos> oh
[08:17] <Kilos> i am here all day to approve guys as they join
[08:17] <Kilos> there was a reason for the decision
[08:18] <Tribaal> I'm not convinced it serves any purpose - but ok, not my call :)
[08:20] <Kilos> our guy that did it gave some reasons why its better this way but we can look into it again
[08:20] <Kilos> we should have this chat on #ubuntu-africa then inetcan see as well
[08:21] <Kilos> inetpro
[08:21] <Kilos> he did the work
[08:24] <Kilos> im a bit old and started everything late in life so the guys do things for me
[08:26] <Kilos> i have a wiki page i used for getting ubuntu membership https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos#preview
[08:26] <Kilos> without the #preview i think
[08:26] <Kilos> sorry
[08:28] <Tribaal> Nice, that's quite a few testimonials
[08:29] <Tribaal> Kilos: when do you plan to submit for membership?
[08:29] <Kilos> all of them have carried me since i started on pcs
[08:29] <Kilos> i am a member
[08:29] <Tribaal> oh, alright
[08:30] <Kilos> the testimonials carried it
[08:30] <Kilos> im mainly an irc person
[08:39] <Kilos> im just waiting for the ubuntu council to approve us of the trademark or something
[08:39] <Kilos> then the site will go live
[08:39] <Kilos> static site built with bzr and nikola
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.627534
| 2015-04-17T00:00:00
|
2015-04-17-#snappy
|
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"authors": [
"Chipaca",
"JamesTait",
"beuno",
"dholbach",
"dholbach_",
"elopio",
"geoaxis",
"jdstrand",
"lool",
"plorenz",
"siderati"
],
"channel": "#snappy",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:42",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23snappy.txt"
}
|
ubuntu-chat
|
[01:07] <siderati> hello everyone, looking for some help booting up snappy on OVM
[01:09] <siderati> anyone here who might be able to gimme a hand?
[08:43] <geoaxis> hello people, any one running snappy on rasberry pi here?
[09:03] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Bat Appreciation Day! :-D
[12:36] <plorenz> hi, i'm trying to build my own snappy image for the raspberry pi 2 and found a tutorial where the tool ubuntu-device-flash is used with the parameter "--oem". I can't find a version of that program which has this parameter implemented, does anybody know where to find such a version? (the tutorial is: http://people.canonical.com/~lool/pi2-device-and-oem/ )
[12:37] <lool> plorenz: yup; you want ppa:snappy-dev/tools
[12:38] <lool> plorenz: also, might only work with Ubuntu 14.04 and 14.10 (trusty and vivid)
[12:40] <plorenz> i've got trusty installed :) thanks, let me try that...
[12:44] <plorenz> thank you, it's working :)
[14:20] <dholbach_> mvo, sergiusens, jdstrand, cprov, asac and others: http://snappy.asac.ws:9001/p/SnappyDeveloperExperienceNotes
[14:23] <dholbach> please help out by adding notes :)
[14:28] <dholbach> beuno, Chipaca: too^ :-P
[14:29] <beuno> I feel less special
[14:33] <elopio> newbie question, fighting with the sd card that I can't always flash...
[14:33] <elopio> any idea why I get this?
[14:33] <elopio> $ sudo dd if=/tmp/snappy.img of=/dev/sdb bs=32M
[14:33] <elopio> dd: failed to open ‘/dev/sdb’: No medium found
[14:33] <beuno> sudo fdisk -l shows /dev/sdb?
[14:34] <elopio> beuno: it does not.
[14:35] <beuno> elopio, so it's likely not properly inserted, maybe?
[14:35] <beuno> or the sdcard ready isn't working?
[14:35] <elopio> beuno: I have just umounted it. I can read the contents without problems.
[14:36] <beuno> elopio, unmount or eject?
[14:36] <elopio> eject.
[14:36] <beuno> try the former
[14:36] <elopio> ack
[14:37] <dholbach> elopio, /dev/mmcblk0 or someting maybe?
[14:38] <elopio> beuno: dholbach: umounting the four partitions seems to have worked.
[14:38] <dholbach> ok cool
[14:38] <elopio> thanks
[15:24] <elopio> another q, what am I doing wrong here?
[15:24] <elopio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10839140/
[15:24] <elopio> I get "snappy package not found"
[16:24] <jdstrand> dholbach: updated http://snappy.asac.ws:9001/p/SnappyDeveloperExperienceNotes with some notes I took
[16:25] <dholbach> thanks a lot jdstrand
[16:25] <jdstrand> np
[16:25] <dholbach> I'll review them and write something up we can discuss at UOS ... or some other time
[19:49] * Chipaca rages against functions not having unit tests
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.643867
| 2015-04-17T00:00:00
|
2015-04-17-#ubuntu-za
|
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"authors": [
"Jacques_Stry",
"Kilos",
"MaNI",
"MaNI2",
"Maaz",
"SilverCode",
"Squirm",
"Symmetria",
"ThatGraemeGuy",
"arnaudmez_",
"barrydk",
"charl",
"georgelappies",
"inetpro",
"lin",
"magespawn",
"mealso",
"nlsthzn",
"pieter2627",
"plustwo",
"stickyboy",
"superfly"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-za",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:43",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-za.txt"
}
|
ubuntu-chat
|
[04:28] <barrydk> More almal
[04:30] <Symmetria> ek kan nie a woord van afrikaans praat of verstaan nie ;p
[04:30] <Symmetria> so wat se jy?
[04:30] <Symmetria> ;p
[04:51] <barrydk> I said good morning to every one Symmetria
[05:10] <pieter2627> morning barrydk
[05:16] <pieter2627> morning Kilos
[05:17] <Kilos> morning pieter2627 hows you today?
[05:17] <pieter2627> fantastic ty, and you?
[05:17] <Kilos> im good ty, just wondering if im gonna be loadshed at 8 again
[05:18] <pieter2627> haha, did the 4pm one hit you yesterday?
[05:18] <Kilos> no only the 8 am one
[05:20] <pieter2627> i was kind of disappointed to also miss it
[05:21] <Kilos> i just worry the sheeding is going to mess up my only 100%good drive as well
[05:21] <Kilos> shedding
[05:22] <Kilos> oh i wanted to ask you as well about ram
[05:22] <Kilos> hmm...
[05:23] <Kilos> is the samsung notebook memory the same
[05:24] <pieter2627> depends...
[05:25] <pieter2627> older ones will be ddr2, and i think even older mem types for the more older one
[05:26] <Kilos> i see my supplier has the ddr3 for R269 for 2g
[05:26] <Kilos> what make is your lappy
[05:26] <pieter2627> that's not too bad... msi (ddr3)
[05:27] <Kilos> SAMSUNG 2GB DRR3 PC3- 10600 1333MHZ SODIMM
[05:27] <pieter2627> last i checked takealot had for around R230
[05:27] <pieter2627> so am constantly eyeing them
[05:29] <pieter2627> it is weird how most sell the 1333MHZ's
[05:30] <Kilos> what is yours
[05:31] <pieter2627> 1600MHZ
[05:31] <Kilos> ai!
[05:32] <pieter2627> or so says `dmidecode` (it lists the wrong number of slots)
[05:33] <Kilos> SAMSUNG 8GB DDR3 1600MHZ SODIMM, 1.35V LOW POWERED
[05:34] <pieter2627> i'm brasing myself
[05:34] <Kilos> thats a lot of money for ram
[05:34] <Kilos> but 8g is lekker
[05:35] <pieter2627> hey it is (you forgot the price)
[05:35] <Kilos> R899
[05:35] <pieter2627> s/hey/yea/
[05:36] <pieter2627> ouch, takealot still seems the best (for R833)
[05:36] <Kilos> the pricelist opens here on libreoffice calc and copy paste not easy
[05:37] <Kilos> and your cpu speed?
[05:37] <pieter2627> or maybe they aren't with this one (theirs is actually R932)
[05:38] <pieter2627> 1800Mhz (Dual ivery)
[05:38] <Kilos> ai!
[05:39] <Kilos> im running 12.04 on my old pc with 2g ram but its at least a 3g cpu
[05:39] <Kilos> ddr ram too
[05:40] <Kilos> its slow but doesnt hang
[05:40] <pieter2627> this cpu outperforms my old 2.8Mhz
[05:41] <Kilos> sjoe
[05:41] <Kilos> so just ram needed then
[05:42] <pieter2627> yes, (i can't actually remember seeing the cpu at 100% lately)
[05:43] <Jacques_Stry> Morning all
[05:43] <Kilos> hi Jacques_Stry
[05:43] <pieter2627> morning Jacques_Stry
[05:44] <Symmetria> mmm
[05:44] <Symmetria> morning
[05:44] <Symmetria> isn't there an ubuntu release today?
[05:44] <Kilos> hi Symmetria
[05:44] <Jacques_Stry> 15.04 RC was yesterday
[05:44] <Kilos> yesterday wasnt it
[05:44] <Symmetria> aahh when is the final?
[05:44] <Symmetria> RC is always pretty small
[05:44] <Jacques_Stry> Next week friday
[05:44] <Jacques_Stry> Thursday*
[05:45] <Jacques_Stry> If you want to install the current RC: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-live/20150416/
[05:46] <Symmetria> heh, nah, not wanting to install it, just watcing traffic on the mirror servers
[05:46] <Jacques_Stry> lol
[05:46] <Jacques_Stry> forgot you manage that :)
[05:48] <mealso> hi Symmetria
[05:50] * Kilos better shutdown old machine before im shed
[05:50] <mealso> bye now
[05:50] <Jacques_Stry> B
[05:51] <Symmetria> holy crap
[05:51] <Symmetria> the ubuntu mirror server
[05:51] <Symmetria> is doing between 250 and 300 hits a second
[05:51] <Kilos> whew
[05:52] <Symmetria> and on occcasion hitting up to 370 hits a second
[05:52] <Jacques_Stry> :)
[05:53] <Kilos> ubuntu is actually going stronger than ever
[05:53] <Kilos> only peeps have forgotten irc
[05:53] <pieter2627> is that sa only?
[05:53] <Symmetria> pieter2627 east africa
[05:53] <Symmetria> aalston@mirror:~$ tail -f /var/log/apache2/ubuntu-archive.log |pv -l -i3 -r -a -t >/dev/null
[05:53] <Symmetria> 0:00:36 [ 279/s] [ 290/s]
[05:54] <Kilos> Symmetria you clever
[05:54] <Symmetria> heh, refreshing every 3 seconds, time counter is time I've been looking, second column is average hits per second and third is the rate in the last 3 seconds
[05:54] <Kilos> how can you remind them all about irc
[05:54] <Kilos> #ubuntu-africa is the channel to point to
[05:55] <pieter2627> wow, what was the past figures?
[05:55] <Symmetria> pieter2627 thats current figures as we speak
[05:55] <pieter2627> and previous (rc) releases?
[05:56] <Symmetria> hard to say, even on a normal day we're running at 200+ hits a second though
[05:56] <Symmetria> heh, on full release days that can easily cross a thousand
[05:57] * pieter2627 is amazed O_O
[05:58] <Kilos> Symmetria answer me man
[05:58] <Symmetria> Kilos heh, I have no idea how to get people back onto irc
[05:58] <Symmetria> facebook/twitter killed the irc star :(
[05:58] <Kilos> well think
[05:58] <Kilos> ya
[05:59] <Kilos> and i dont like either of them
[05:59] <Kilos> i think im about to be shed
[05:59] <Kilos> Maaz watch them
[05:59] <Maaz> oh Kilos I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon!
[06:00] <Jacques_Stry> I'm shedding at 11
[06:00] <Kilos> i can never find my area to check
[06:00] <pieter2627> Kilos: it is not cold enough yet to start shedding leaves :P
[06:01] <Kilos> 6ks west of mahem
[06:01] <Kilos> haha
[06:02] <Symmetria> lol at least you can tell kinda when you gonan get loadshed
[06:02] <Symmetria> in Kenya they just randomly fucking turn it off
[06:02] <Symmetria> ;p
[06:03] <Symmetria> heh my power at home went out this morning at 5:17am and still isnt back ;(
[06:03] <Jacques_Stry> >.<
[06:03] <Kilos> ai!
[06:04] <Kilos> hi lin
[06:04] <lin> hehe
[06:04] <lin> kilos
[06:04] <lin> hi
[06:06] <Kilos> i forget where you are located lin
[06:07] * Kilos needs a young sectretary with a good memory
[06:07] <Kilos> secretary
[06:07] <Kilos> daai mooi meisies
[06:08] <pieter2627> ... and good spellign
[06:08] <pieter2627> ;P
[06:08] <Kilos> haha
[06:08] <Kilos> my spelling is fine, its my fingers that forget where to go
[06:09] <pieter2627> oh yea forgot... she need smooth fingers?
[06:09] <Kilos> lol
[06:10] <Kilos> wow looks like they forgot to shed me
[06:10] <Kilos> so it will be this avy then
[06:10] <lin> I'm in Kenya, Kilos
[06:11] <Kilos> ty lin im gonna add you in my list for there now
[06:11] <pieter2627> or they stopped since yesterday since there was none yesterday afternoon either
[06:12] <Kilos> hold thumbs
[06:13] <SilverCode> anyone here know how to configure Network Up Tools to force a shutdown when it goes on battery, instead of when it gets low battery?
[06:13] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:13] <inetpro> oh and hi to oom Kilos
[06:14] <Kilos> lol hi there inetpro
[06:14] <Kilos> and plustwo
[06:15] <plustwo> mornin all
[06:15] <Kilos> lin you should visit #ubuntu-ke now and again too, poor tribaal is lonesome there
[06:15] <pieter2627> hi plustwo
[06:15] <plustwo> hi pieter2627oom Kilos
[06:18] <Kilos> bad news when the main topic of the day is loadshedding
[06:28] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[06:31] <Kilos> Symmetria maybe you can get this link out further than i can https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams
[06:54] <Squirm> morning
[06:54] * Jacques_Stry waves
[06:54] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[06:59] * Kilos wonders who else would make a good bugsquad canditate
[07:06] * Jacques_Stry was looking to join the bug squad but still struggling a bit to fix the problems that are on the bugs list
[07:11] <Kilos> there are so many
[07:12] <Kilos> day before yesterday there were still over 1000 on 15.10
[07:12] <Kilos> pieter2627 have you tried using a light weight browser
[07:13] <pieter2627> firefox is lightweight for what i'm doing :P
[07:14] <Kilos> sjoe
[07:14] <Kilos> i dont use the fox at all
[07:14] <pieter2627> i don't really issues when doing normal stuff, just when working hard
[07:15] <Kilos> ok so then dont work hard
[07:15] <pieter2627> i currently rely heavily on its 'tabs group' feature
[07:15] <Kilos> hehe
[07:15] <pieter2627> haha
[07:16] <Kilos> easy does it everytime
[07:17] <pieter2627> am currently downloading kubuntu rc to try it for the next few days
[07:17] <Kilos> kde takes some getting used to but once you are used to it then you dont want to change
[07:24] <Kilos> i think thunderbird is tied into the fox somewhere isnt it
[07:33] <pieter2627> hmm, i think they only share a few things (although i have noticed that fox will stay open after being closed until the bird is closed too)
[07:33] <Kilos> ai!
[07:35] <Kilos> and the stupid bird keeps wanting to compress stuff here but there are like 10 emails only and on a 1TB drive
[07:35] <Kilos> sigh
[07:35] <pieter2627> haha
[07:50] <Kilos> aw he killed it
[08:01] <Kilos> wb pieter2627
[08:01] <Kilos> and R0ok_
[08:05] <Squirm> The joys
[08:05] <Squirm> Stage 2 load shedding
[08:05] <Kilos> ai!
[08:13] <Kilos> hmm... someone was learning python
[08:15] <charl> good morning
[08:15] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:15] * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[08:18] <stickyboy> Great success
[08:18] <Kilos> what now stickyboy
[08:19] <stickyboy> Kilos: Maaz grinding coffee.
[08:19] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[08:19] <Kilos> hi charl
[08:19] <charl> Maaz: danke
[08:19] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[08:19] <charl> hi Kilos
[08:19] <charl> how are you doing
[08:19] <Kilos> good ty and you
[08:19] <charl> good
[08:20] <charl> what's been happening around here, i haven't been around for a while
[08:21] <charl> i took a month hiatus from freenode
[08:21] <Kilos> eish
[08:21] <Kilos> we been working
[08:21] <charl> sounds good
[08:29] <MaNI> death to eskom :/
[08:36] <Kilos> then we will never have power
[08:37] <Kilos> just a good sjambokking could help though
[08:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> heh
[08:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> it isn't the 80s anymore :-o
[08:43] <Kilos> lol
[08:49] <MaNI> anyone know a solar panel place that sells at reasonable prices? :P
[09:01] <charl> https://www.facebook.com/snowreportsa/photos/a.312313212229373.1073741828.312197008907660/667550900038934/
[09:01] <charl> snow in south africa lol
[09:01] <charl> is this common?
[09:01] <Kilos> in winter ya
[09:01] <Kilos> but a bit early now
[09:01] <charl> indeed
[09:03] <MaNI> its been a bit more common the last 5 years or so
[09:04] <Kilos> blame it on global warming
[09:04] <Kilos> we get the global freezing
[09:04] <charl> yeah i can't remember much snow when i used to live in south africa
[09:04] <charl> it was rare
[09:16] <Kilos> some areas like natal never see snow except on the drakensburg
[09:16] <Kilos> but its moving down lately
[09:26] <MaNI> yeah, cape as well, its usually just the peaks if that, but last 5 years theres been a bit more in lower areas
[09:27] <MaNI> but also these snow report people have been doing a good job of making people aware of it when it does happen I guess, so maybe it's just the media effect at play
[09:28] <magespawn> good morning
[09:28] <Jacques_Stry> MaNI: Try http://www.sustainable.co.za/ for the solar panels
[09:29] <Jacques_Stry> Their prices pretty good I think
[09:30] <MaNI> like R10/watt - http://www.gwstore.co.za/site/info/index.php?type=view_article&id=891 thats the best I've found so far R7/watt
[09:30] <Jacques_Stry> Nice
[09:31] <MaNI> but min order of 25 panels :(
[09:31] <Jacques_Stry> >.<
[09:32] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[09:42] <Kilos> then to work out what inverter you will need too
[09:42] <Kilos> http://www.sustainable.co.za/solar-power/solar-inverters.html
[09:44] <MaNI2> yeah
[09:46] <MaNI2> huge price fluctuation between brands on inverters
[09:50] <Kilos> https://mrzonbu.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/how-much-power-does-your-desktop-pc-use/
[09:50] <Kilos> he says under 175 watts but i dont know if that includes the screen
[09:51] <MaNI> I doubt my desktop pc resembles the average one at all :P
[09:51] <Kilos> ah youve built up your own
[09:51] <Jacques_Stry> lol my home pc uses allot more
[09:52] <Jacques_Stry> when playing games it consumes 400-450w
[09:52] <Kilos> i thinks the 175 watts in box only
[09:52] <Kilos> is
[09:52] <Kilos> havent found what screens use
[09:53] <MaNI> well I have 10 hard drives in it for starters :P
[09:53] <Jacques_Stry> No a standard office pc with 18.5 inch screen uses about 175-200w
[09:53] <MaNI> and yeah I'm sure if your graphics card is in full draw it will pull a much larger load
[09:53] <Kilos> no man the screen runs off ac
[09:53] <Jacques_Stry> thats a pentium duel core with on-board graphics and 4gb ram
[09:53] <Jacques_Stry> We tested is when we got quotes for generators
[09:54] <Kilos> but take it as max of 500w for box then find whats screens use
[09:54] <MaNI> theres a site somewhere where you can put actual components for more realsitic estimate
[09:54] <Jacques_Stry> screen and case used 175-200 in office use
[09:54] <MaNI> its like 30w per harddrive or something
[09:54] <MaNI> but you can use your power supply as an upper limit
[09:55] <MaNI> if its a 400w power supply you can't possibly be using more than 400w etc.
[09:55] <Jacques_Stry> Hard drives are usually about 10-15w per hdd
[09:55] <MaNI> screens are about 170w I think
[09:55] <Kilos> wow so min
[09:56] <Jacques_Stry> Where you guys getting these figures from >.<
[09:56] <MaNI> less
[09:57] <MaNI> 45w
[09:57] <MaNI> http://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-syncmaster-2333sw/specs/
[09:57] <Kilos> https://mrzonbu.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/how-much-power-does-your-desktop-pc-use/
[09:57] <Jacques_Stry> 18.5 uses about 20w if a modern led
[09:57] <Kilos> hehe
[09:57] <MaNI> had 170w in my head but thats probably from old CRTs
[09:57] <Jacques_Stry> http://www.lg.com/ae/monitors/lg-19M35A/technical-specifications
[09:58] <Jacques_Stry> Active power consumption `13w
[09:58] <Kilos> i would have thought the screen uses more
[09:58] <MaNI> its just a fancy light :P
[09:59] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn
[09:59] <nlsthzn> hey uncle Kilos ...
[10:00] <Kilos> what does the ... mean
[10:00] * Jacques_Stry waves
[10:01] <MaNI> http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp < can use something like that to get a reasonable estimate for a specific pc
[10:02] <nlsthzn> ... it means ... that I ... pressed the . three times ...
[10:02] * nlsthzn also waves and also ...
[10:03] * Jacques_Stry ...
[10:07] <Kilos> hehe
[10:10] <Kilos> sjoe too much rtfs
[10:11] <Kilos> hahaha nlsthzn i meant does the ... have anything to add to the greeting man
[10:13] <Kilos> like maybe hello and now stop nagging me
[10:13] <Kilos> ek sukkel met my volk partykeer
[10:19] <charl> have a good weekend all
[11:19] <Kilos> i go eat
[12:28] <Kilos> hi spinza why you been so quiet
[12:28] <Kilos> busy is a feeble excuse
[12:31] <Kilos> unless expanded upon
[12:53] <MaNI> does anyone know any south african companies that sell DC-DC ATX power supplies? like e.g. http://www.powerstream.com/DC-PC-12V-500.htm
[13:18] <magespawn> W=V*I
[13:19] <magespawn> Kilos: ^
[13:20] <magespawn> Watts (W) = Volts (V) * Amps (I)
[13:20] <Kilos> ya
[13:21] <magespawn> so on this small screen i have here W = 240V * 1Amp
[13:21] <magespawn> so 240W
[13:21] <Kilos> thats about all i remember from before
[13:21] <magespawn> but that is an old screen
[13:22] <Kilos> where did you get the info
[13:22] <Kilos> and your voltage is 22o
[13:22] <Kilos> ptown is the only place with 240 i think
[13:23] <Kilos> and it is normally 230 and odd bits
[13:23] <Kilos> v=i/r
[13:23] <Squirm> Stick with 220v
[13:24] <magespawn> the screen is rated for 110-240V so in this case the lower your supply the less you will use, ironic
[13:25] <Kilos> lol
[13:26] <magespawn> and i would thing the same applies to most appliances that convert the ac to dc
[13:26] <Kilos> ya
[13:26] <Kilos> ohms law
[13:27] <Kilos> i dont think anyone has found a way to corrupt that yet
[13:37] <Kilos> only energy saving bulbs have some magic in them
[13:39] <Kilos> 15w is as bright as 60w incandescent
[13:39] <Kilos> i think thats the right word
[13:41] <Kilos> oh and microwaves also have magic in them
[13:41] <Kilos> you can shout at an egg all day and nothing happens
[13:42] <Kilos> put the egg in a microwave and see what happens
[14:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[14:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: I'm going to spend my weekend shouting at eggs now
[14:23] <Kilos> lol
[14:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> i didn't know you can microwave an egg
[14:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> true story
[14:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> doesn't it explode?
[14:28] <Kilos> it explodes
[14:28] <Kilos> hehe
[14:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> at thought it might
[15:03] <Kilos> hmm... whats broken now
[15:03] <Kilos> hehe
[15:35] <arnaudmez_> Nothing
[15:35] <arnaudmez_> Kilos:
[15:36] <arnaudmez_> have managed to save my evolution mail to mbox format
[15:36] <arnaudmez_> now left, to import them to outlook
[15:37] <Kilos> whew
[15:37] <Kilos> ive just gone to thunderbird mail and its quite good
[15:38] <Kilos> very much lighter than evo
[15:51] <Kilos> wow nlsthzn you still here, well done
[15:52] <Kilos> nuvolari maak bietjie tyd die naweek om hier te kuier ook hoor
[16:00] <Kilos> http://linuxpadawan.net/
[16:00] <Kilos> it's a mentoring service for all Linux users.
[16:06] <Kilos> wbb
[16:26] <arnaudmez_> Kilos: yeah you right but I personally don't like THB
[16:26] <Kilos> wb arnaudmez_ whats news
[16:26] <arnaudmez_> The UI doesn't inspire
[16:27] <Kilos> i dont either but i found it is easier to get working with an @ubuntu.com adderss than evo
[16:27] <Kilos> oh you must talk to inetpro he has it all figured out. one can change lots
[16:28] <arnaudmez_> Yeah
[16:51] <georgelappies> hi Kilos
[16:51] <Kilos> hi georgelappies
[16:54] <Kilos> all good by you?
[16:55] <georgelappies> good thanks
[16:55] <Kilos> where are you again?
[16:55] <georgelappies> traffic was crazy tonight
[16:55] <Kilos> secunda
[16:56] <georgelappies> no, in Sunninghill
[16:56] <georgelappies> traffic never gets bad in Secunda ;p
[16:56] <Kilos> jozi
[16:56] <Kilos> lol
[16:56] <georgelappies> yeah Jozi
[16:56] <georgelappies> here for a project
[16:56] <Kilos> jozi traffic is always bad
[16:57] <georgelappies> yeah, with load shedding even worse
[16:58] <georgelappies> with no traffic it is a 10 min drive, took me more than an hour tonight
[16:58] <Kilos> but if you are in jozi for a project where did you come from
[16:58] <georgelappies> the worst thing is the aggravation of the fellow motorists
[16:58] <georgelappies> I am based in Secunda
[16:58] <Kilos> ah
[16:59] <georgelappies> working in Sunninghill from Monday to Thursday, but had to work today and tomorrow as well
[16:59] <Kilos> aha
[16:59] <Kilos> well enjoy it
[16:59] <Kilos> i dont like jozi at all
[16:59] <georgelappies> jozi sucks yeah
[17:00] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:00] <Kilos> wbb
[17:27] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:30] <Kilos> hi barrydk
[17:31] <Kilos> see mazal hy moenie sy games werk vergeet nie asb
[17:52] <Kilos> hi SilverCode
[17:53] <Kilos> so inetpro are you away for the weekend again
[18:58] <Kilos> evening superfly
[18:58] <superfly> hi Kilos
[19:07] <Kilos> theblazehen ping
[19:12] <Kilos> oh my, these young peeps even busy on friday nights
[20:34] <inetpro> good evening
[20:34] <inetpro> oh and hi oom Kilos
[20:34] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[20:34] <inetpro> why up so late?
[20:34] <Kilos> i was caught again today
[20:34] <inetpro> caught?
[20:35] <Kilos> ya man gevang
[21:27] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[22:12] <Squirm> 'lo
[22:16] <Squirm> fp
[22:16] <Squirm> sp
[22:16] <Squirm> gnight
|
2024-05-13T22:10:59.650407
| 2015-04-17T00:00:00
|
2015-04-17-#kubuntu-devel
|
{
"authors": [
"BluesKaj",
"KDDA",
"Riddell",
"ahoneybun",
"claydoh",
"darthanubis",
"genii",
"kfunk",
"kubotu",
"lordievader",
"mparillo",
"ovidiu-florin",
"ovidiu-florin__",
"rdieter",
"sitter",
"soee",
"soee_",
"valorie",
"vip",
"vipw",
"yofel"
],
"channel": "#kubuntu-devel",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:44",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23kubuntu-devel.txt"
}
|
ubuntu-chat
|
[05:43] <ovidiu-florin__> hello, anyone here?
[05:44] <ovidiu-florin__> Last night's update on vivid, broke quassel
[05:45] <darthanubis> Broke? I'm using it now
[05:46] <darthanubis> Core, client, and droid
[06:06] <ovidiu-florin__> client, doesn't start anymore
[06:06] <ovidiu-florin__> it starts and there's no content to the window
[06:06] <ovidiu-florin__> and it stays like that
[06:08] <ovidiu-florin__> $ quasselclient
[06:08] <ovidiu-florin__> QCoreApplication::arguments: Please instantiate the QApplication object first
[06:08] <ovidiu-florin__> "Theme tree: (Breeze)"
[06:08] <ovidiu-florin__> No DockManager available
[06:09] <ovidiu-florin__> and that's it
[07:05] <soee> good morning
[08:23] <soee> hhm
[08:24] <soee> The problem cannot be reported:The problem happened with the program /usr/bin/kdeinit5 which changed since the crash occurred.
[08:26] <vipw> soee: that bot seems very silent
[08:26] <vipw> soee: does he leave private messages?
[08:27] <soee> vipw: kubotu ?
[08:27] <vipw> yup
[08:27] <soee> i dont think so
[08:27] <soee> but devs use bouncers so the can read teh logs and have access to messages send to them
[08:27] <vipw> did he say something? :)
[08:28] <soee> who ?
[08:28] <vipw> maybe, he just didn't
[08:28] <vipw> kubotu:
[08:28] <soee> kubotu: hi
[08:28] <kubotu> re soee :)
[08:28] <soee> it has some commands
[08:28] <vipw> i mean, did he say something about isos to test ;-)
[08:29] <sitter> queuebot talks about isos
[08:29] <soee> well someone has to call teh testers via kubotu
[08:29] <sitter> ah
[08:30] <sitter> isn't that ubottu
[08:36] <soee> vipw: usualy when isos are ready to test, Riddell uses this bot to call testers to grb the images and o testcases
[08:37] <vipw> ok, sooner or later, i'll know
[08:55] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:18] <Riddell> soee: there's images up onw
[09:18] <Riddell> now
[09:18] * Riddell away today
[12:24] <sitter> anyone around who has a recent daily ISO and can test something real quick?
[12:24] <sitter> need a screenshot of the first ubiquity screen
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:57] <mparillo> sitter: Does ksnapshot load on the first ubiquity screen?
[13:09] <sitter> no
[13:09] <sitter> you'd have to run the ISO in a vbox
[13:09] <sitter> or some other virtual machine
[13:09] <sitter> and then snapshot that
[13:10] <sitter> actually
[13:10] <sitter> mparillo: you could just tell me if you can minimize the window
[13:13] <mparillo> The first window where you get the choice between try and install?
[13:16] <mparillo> I have created the VM, and am starting it
[13:19] <mparillo> sitter: Yes, I can minimize the Try /Install window. I do not see it go to a panel ... it just seems to disappear, but that could be because the size of my virtual screen is small. I can restore the Try / Install window by <alt> <tab>
[13:26] <sitter> mparillo: thanks
[13:27] <sitter> Riddell: ^ I don't think that was the case with kwin4
[13:27] <sitter> seems a bit meh
[14:12] <BluesKaj> is dolphin going remain on plasma 4 on the 15.04 official release like it is now ?
[14:12] <yofel> qt4, yes
[14:14] <BluesKaj> bummer , so i'm goingto have different colours on my apps because systemsettings4 has no way of being setup to the same as systemsetttings5
[14:35] <rdieter> BluesKaj: fyi, systemsettings5 relevant theme changes should propogate to kde4's kdeglobals (that's the theory anyway), do colors not work then?
[14:36] <claydoh> odd, BluesKaj my dolphin's colors match when I change thingsw
[14:36] * rdieter tested, works for me. used systemsettings5 to change colors to 'breeze dark', run dolphin... and it's dark
[14:51] <kfunk> yep. that should work just fine
[14:51] <BluesKaj> claydoh, no such luck here, dolphin is using the default systemseting4 colour which is an off brown whereas everything under the plasma 5 control is a marble blue
[15:05] <BluesKaj> even the titlbar and the toolbar fonts are still small on this large screen (as root in systemsettings5) set the font as ubuntu 9 or some such and i need dejavu sans 15 to make the them readable , the text inside the files are dejavu sans 15
[15:14] <BluesKaj> ts I gues
[15:15] <BluesKaj> so there's some kind of mess here between the Qts
[15:21] <rdieter> BluesKaj: there was a prior release of plasma5 (early 5.2.0?) that had a bug that kdeglobals could get corrupted, which prevented subsequent config changes from taking effect. your symptoms sound like ^^ may be happening.
[15:24] <BluesKaj> rdieter, well this is a beta 2 totally clean install , no conf files left over in /home etc from previous installs
[15:24] <BluesKaj> only one partition on this one , just /
[15:25] <BluesKaj> bbl
[15:34] <claydoh> BluesKaj: "even the titlbar and the toolbar fonts are still small on this large screen (as root in systemsettings5) "
[15:35] <claydoh> running system settings as root might be the cause, here perhaps?
[15:39] <sitter> thy shalt not run gui apps as root
[15:51] <BluesKaj> sitter otherwise when I edit a file as roo then the fonts aren't readable
[15:51] <BluesKaj> root
[15:51] <BluesKaj> like the sours.list for example
[15:52] <BluesKaj> sources.list..
[15:57] <BluesKaj> odd that kate runs under plasma5 as user , but as root it's plasma4
[15:57] <BluesKaj> diffrent permissions , different colour settings seems to be the problem here
[15:58] <BluesKaj> same goes for the titlebar and toolbar fonts
[16:01] <BluesKaj> anyway we'll see what happens next thurs
[16:03] <BluesKaj> BBL
[19:16] <Riddell> bug 1445383
[19:16] <Riddell> yofel: ^^
[19:21] <KDDA> not again!
[19:34] <vip> :)
[19:34] <yofel> Riddell: I know, didn't have time to follow up on that
[19:35] <yofel> KDDA: not again, it's the damn same innodb crash hitting different people
[19:36] <KDDA> I spent ages getting akonadi up and running again
[19:36] * yofel switched to mariadb -.-
[19:37] <KDDA> cheat!
[20:59] <ahoneybun> 14.04 is running amazing on my dad's computer now :)
[20:59] <ahoneybun> *amazingly
[21:02] <soee_> -.-
[21:36] * genii makes more coffee
[21:52] <ovidiu-florin> so something in the last update broke my quassel
[21:52] <ovidiu-florin> I had to purge it and start over
[21:52] <ovidiu-florin> it works now :D
[21:56] <valorie> so perhaps something in old configs?
[21:57] <valorie> all ok with konvi....
[22:35] <lordievader> My Vivid netboot just keeps working :)
[22:35] <lordievader> Must say I don't use it for much. Just a bit of browsing and konsole'ing.
[22:35] <valorie> by netboot, you mean mini-iso + Kubuntu-desktop?
[22:36] <lordievader> No, by netboot I mean PXE + NFS root.
[22:36] <valorie> I don't know what that is
[22:37] <lordievader> valorie: http://www.serenux.com/2010/05/howto-setup-your-own-pxe-boot-server-using-ubuntu-server/
[22:38] <lordievader> It comes down to having no harddrive in the computer and having the rootfs on some server.
[22:39] <valorie> ahhhh, the law and freedom folks have talked about a setup like tat
[22:39] <valorie> that'
[22:39] <valorie> so if laptops are confiscated, you still have your data
[22:41] <valorie> and I guess that is unfortunately common for human rights/social justice workers
[22:41] <valorie> American citizens do not have constitutional rights at the borders, our courts now say
[22:42] <valorie> :(
[22:43] <lordievader> I wouldn't do nfs booting over the internet. But for a local lan it is a nice way of giving live to a machine in which there is no hard drive.
[22:44] <valorie> these folks advocated a "virtual hard drive"
[22:44] <valorie> a few years ago
[22:44] <valorie> I'm not sure what the thinking is these days
[22:44] <lordievader> This is not a virtual hard drive thing.
[22:45] <lordievader> Wonder what they ment with virtual hard drive...
[22:46] <valorie> here is one description: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2465848/virtual-hard-drives-the-it-pro-trick-that-lets-you-back-up-your-data-for-free.html
[22:46] <valorie> sounds like just a container, which I guess could reside anywhere
[22:47] <valorie> amazon servers etc.
[22:47] <lordievader> Hmm, if network storage counts as 'virtual hard drive'...
[22:48] <valorie> it's almost back to the dumb terminal days
[22:48] <lordievader> Ah, those vhd's Windows answer to using Logical Volumes for VM's.
[22:51] <valorie> it would be scary unless you really trusted the cloud provider
[22:51] <valorie> which is where kolab and companies like that come in, I guess
[22:51] <valorie> spideroak is another
|
2024-05-13T22:10:59.668571
| 2015-04-17T00:00:00
|
2015-04-17-#ubuntu-locoteams
|
{
"authors": [
"Kilos",
"MooDoo",
"PaulW2U",
"TaeheeJang",
"ahoneybun",
"belkinsa",
"dholbach",
"dpm",
"genii"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-locoteams",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:45",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-locoteams.txt"
}
|
ubuntu-chat
|
[05:45] * Kilos waves to the locoteam
[05:47] * PaulW2U waves back and goes off to work
[05:47] <Kilos> hehe
[05:47] <Kilos> hi nhaines
[07:38] <Kilos> hi dpm
[07:39] <dpm> hey Kilos
[10:36] <TaeheeJang> Have a nice Friday people!
[10:37] <ahoneybun> whoo
[10:37] <Kilos> haha TaeheeJang you too
[10:39] <TaeheeJang> Kilos: Thankyou haha
[10:45] <MooDoo> yay friday
[10:46] <Kilos> hi MooDoo
[10:46] <MooDoo> howdy Kilos
[10:47] <MooDoo> are you well?
[10:48] <Kilos> yes ty and you?
[10:48] <MooDoo> yeah always good on a friday home servers updated smoothly so i'm happy lol
[10:48] <Kilos> hard work this timezone thing though
[10:48] <Kilos> nice
[10:49] <MooDoo> yeah it can be a pain, what's it there now?
[10:49] <Kilos> 12.50
[10:50] <MooDoo> ah not that bad then you're only +2 from me
[10:50] <MooDoo> well +1 at this time of year lol
[10:50] <Kilos> if there are any australians here then i have 9 hours back to the usa west coast and 9 ahead to the ausies
[10:51] <MooDoo> it can be a pain if you needed to speak to someone in the us lol
[10:52] <Kilos> exciting though
[10:52] <MooDoo> oh definately, that's ubuntu/community for you :)
[10:53] <Kilos> :D
[11:34] <MooDoo> :)
[13:47] <belkinsa> Kilos, can I PM you>
[13:51] <Kilos> yessir belkinsa
[15:32] <Kilos> hi genii dholbach
[15:36] <dholbach> hi Kilos
[15:39] * genii slides Kilos a fresh beverage
[15:39] <Kilos> ty genii
[15:39] <genii> :D
|
2024-05-13T22:10:59.683134
| 2015-04-17T00:00:00
|
2015-04-17-#ubuntu-desktop
|
{
"authors": [
"Laney",
"cyphermox",
"darkxst",
"davmor2",
"didrocks",
"kenvandine",
"larsu",
"ogra_",
"pitti",
"seb128",
"willcooke"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-desktop",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:46",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-desktop.txt"
}
|
ubuntu-chat
|
[05:49] <didrocks> good morning
[06:53] <willcooke> o/
[06:53] <seb128> hey willcooke
[06:55] <didrocks> good morning willcooke
[08:05] <Laney> OHO
[08:07] <didrocks> santa claus!
[08:07] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:07] <seb128> oh, he got presents for us?!
[08:07] * didrocks hopes so
[08:08] <Laney> coal for didrocks
[08:08] * Laney switch back to upstart last night ;-)
[08:08] <didrocks> but I've been so kind!
[08:08] <didrocks> life is unfair
[08:28] <larsu> morning!
[08:40] <seb128> hey larsu
[09:10] <willcooke> is anyone using plain X chat 2.8.8?
[09:11] <seb128> willcooke, no, xchat-gnome here
[09:11] <seb128> why?
[09:11] <willcooke> There's a really weird thing going on with the topic field
[09:11] <willcooke> If I drag a window over the top of it
[09:11] <willcooke> I can see through the window's title bar and read the text underneath
[09:12] <willcooke> but only on the topic field
[09:12] <willcooke> ?!?!?!
[09:12] <willcooke> oh, and the channel list
[09:12] <willcooke> doesn't matter, just strange is all
[09:13] <seb128> weird indeed
[09:13] <willcooke> errr
[09:13] <willcooke> it gets more strange...
[09:13] <willcooke> it only happens on my laptop screen, not on my external monitor
[09:13] <larsu> use xchat-gnome? :P
[09:13] <willcooke> :)
[09:13] <davmor2> use irssi
[09:14] <larsu> weechat!
[09:15] <willcooke> You guys and your crackpot IRC clients
[09:15] <davmor2> smuxi
[09:15] <davmor2> willcooke: I'm using xchat
[09:15] <davmor2> I just don't have multimonitors
[09:15] <willcooke> ba
[09:16] <Laney> ba black sheep
[09:16] <davmor2> have you any wool
[09:16] <Laney> lots actually
[09:18] <darkxst> willcooke, nope, fine here, but GNOME, so different compositor
[09:20] <willcooke> thx darkxst, I'll show bregma next week if I can reproduce it
[09:22] <davmor2> willcooke: what are you testing xchat on? If it is unity 7 on vivid then I might be able to get an hdmi lead and chuck it into this monitor from my laptop
[09:22] <willcooke> davmor2, don't worry about it - it's not worth spending time on
[10:02] * Laney has added some topics to 'Agenda' on the sprint spreadsheet
[10:07] <willcooke> thx Laney
[10:20] <Laney> I wonder if I have one of those apple vga dongle thingies
[10:20] <Laney> would be useful to project ting
[10:28] <Laney> actually found one, still in its packet
[10:51] * willcooke -> haircut
[10:52] <darkxst> Laney, if you need apples, have a big tree of them ;)
[10:53] <darkxst> well atleast the ones that are left after the european wasp invasion
[10:54] <Laney> those mean wasps
[10:55] <darkxst> yeh! I was quite surpised they can eat an entire apple (Except the skin) in 1 day
[10:56] <darkxst> multi-threaded of course as well, so many apples per day
[11:21] * willcooke <- haircut
[11:23] <davmor2> willcooke and a haircut doesn't sound right......No I'm sure it's Shave and a Haircut 2 bits :D
[11:23] <willcooke> Nooooooo
[11:23] * didrocks will be in no haircut mode for once
[11:23] <didrocks> brace yourself!
[11:25] <davmor2> didrocks: if your hair isn't cut surely the hair will brace people against the wall and they won't need to brace themselves ;)
[11:25] <willcooke> http://www.independent.co.uk/migration_catalog/article5199891.ece/alternates/w620/Old%20English%20Sheepdog%20.jpeg
[11:25] <didrocks> davmor2: ahah
[11:26] <didrocks> willcooke: I should have bet as I was 90% sure it was this kind of dog before opening the image…
[11:26] <willcooke> :D:D
[11:26] <willcooke> excellent
[11:26] <didrocks> it's not *that* bad
[12:46] <davmor2> hey desktop guys there seems to be some real issue in oem mode on desktop. There is no prepare for end user script that I can find, after cd eject enter key does nothing, there is no sound in the ubiquity installer part, there is no listing for my AP in nm but it was discovered no issues in the installer, volume is on in desktop for oem
[12:46] <davmor2> the list goes on
[12:51] <didrocks> davmor2: are you sure most of them are specific to oem mode?
[12:51] <didrocks> davmor2: the cd eject enter key is something that cyphermox was looking at (related to systemd)
[12:52] <davmor2> didrocks: the missing prepare for end user is definitely oem
[12:52] <didrocks> I guess the ubiquity/nm issues should be directed to the foundation team
[12:52] <didrocks> only the user prepare one seems oemish
[12:53] <didrocks> (and that's foundation team as well)
[12:53] <davmor2> didrocks: I don't want to restart till I get some feedback for logs and stuff though I'm assuming most of the issues priory to oem desktop are general issues
[12:53] <didrocks> davmor2: basically all installer issues is for cyphermox (lucky him) :p
[12:53] <davmor2> didrocks: I know right :) He gets all the bestest things
[12:54] <didrocks> heh
[12:54] <didrocks> but yeah, I guess the other are impacting normal images as well (some are known and being worked on)
[13:29] <didrocks> ogra_: stupid question, but by reading the snappy ML, I found your message on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/snappy-devel/2015-February/000281.html
[13:29] <didrocks> ogra_: seems your sudo question is now fixed, right? (as there is a needs-root or whatever yaml content)
[13:29] <didrocks> however, I was wondering what is the node-snapper?
[13:30] <ogra_> didrocks, might be, i had to move back to phone stuff and havent touched snappy in a while ...
[13:30] <ogra_> i know there is a bug for the sudo case though
[13:31] <didrocks> ogra_: and this node-snapper? was it just a package you started to look at and transform it for vim? or another magical tools I didn't find doc on yet? :p
[13:31] <ogra_> node-snapper is a tool to provide you an arch specific tarball (or two) with a nodejs interpreter and all needed nodejs modules to put in a snap package
[13:31] <didrocks> interesting (not sure why you needed that for vim though?)
[13:31] <ogra_> https://ograblog.wordpress.com/2015/02/21/meet-node-snapper-a-helper-to-easily-create-snap-packages-of-your-node-js-projects/
[13:32] <ogra_> well, you can easily hack it to pull any other binary package into such a tarball :)
[13:32] <didrocks> ah ok, you just switch nodejs to vim
[13:32] <ogra_> and drop the npm logic ...
[13:33] <ogra_> (since vim doesnt need nodejs modules most of the time :) )
[13:33] <didrocks> ogra_: you always need npm though! :p
[13:33] <didrocks> ogra_: thanks for the answers ;)
[13:33] <ogra_> happy to help ...
[13:34] <ogra_> btw, i think mterrys new tool is better for general deb conversion to snap ... node-snapper is pretty specific for the nodejs case
[13:35] <didrocks> ogra_: yeah, I'm reading that as well to get a sense of state of the art and see how we can help (but without participating to initial conversations, hard to cachup)
[13:35] <didrocks> catchup*
[13:35] <ogra_> there is no "initial conversation"
[13:36] <ogra_> there is just "we all scratch our itches" currently
[13:36] <didrocks> ogra_: well, quite a lot of tools and messages on the ML, so interesting to see where this is going and how we can see the bigger picture
[13:36] <didrocks> aka "avoid having to run xorg in a priviledge snap"
[13:36] <ogra_> right, i just mean we will probably see ten more such implementations until something official comes around
[13:37] <didrocks> yep
[13:37] <ogra_> we neeed some generic way though ... everyone knows that i think
[13:37] <didrocks> interesting thing about the LD_PRELOAD story btw…
[13:37] <didrocks> I was really against before the issues with LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[13:38] <ogra_> LD_LIBRARY_PATH works fine for less complex stuff (like node snapper)
[13:38] <ogra_> i wouldnt want to roll a unity8 snap with Mir inside using that though :)
[13:38] <didrocks> everything that doesn't use RPATH…
[13:38] <didrocks> heh
[13:38] <didrocks> yeah
[13:39] <ogra_> (which is essentially what mterry tires to do there)
[13:39] <didrocks> yep, for a couple of months already
[13:41] <didrocks> ogra_: ok, I just saw libsnappypreload's code
[13:41] <didrocks> it's… interesting :p
[14:19] <seb128> kenvandine, touch channel is a bit crazy, moving here
[14:19] <kenvandine> seb128, :)
[14:19] <seb128> kenvandine, yeah, I confirmed that the ListItem onClicked: doesn't trigger when we hit the issue
[14:20] <kenvandine> seb128, you mean confirmed outside of autopilot?
[14:20] <seb128> I added a code snippet the change the page title to "clicked" in the onClicked handler, doesn't change when I hit the bug
[14:20] <seb128> with autopilot
[14:20] <kenvandine> ok
[14:20] <seb128> I can't reproduce the issue with a manual tap
[14:20] <seb128> I do tap correctly :p
[14:20] <seb128> seems like autopilot sometime doesn't
[14:21] <kenvandine> grrr
[14:21] <seb128> indeed :-/
[14:21] <seb128> is there a way to dump events log?
[14:21] <seb128> to see if it triggers a dnd or something
[14:21] <kenvandine> seb128, can you ping the qa guys with what you've figured out?
[14:21] <kenvandine> not sure
[14:21] <seb128> kenvandine, who are the qa guys?
[14:21] <kenvandine> see if they have ideas why we don't always get onClicked
[14:21] <kenvandine> they have a vanguard in #ubuntu-quality
[14:22] <kenvandine> i think
[14:22] <kenvandine> someone that should be able to help with autopilot issues
[14:23] <kenvandine> seb128, so i bet missing that onClicked happens elsewhere too, which causes these flaky problems
[14:24] <seb128> kenvandine, ok, moving to the next channel :p
[14:26] <kenvandine> seb128, it was awesome that you figured that out!
[14:26] <seb128> kenvandine, :-)
[14:27] <kenvandine> i'm a bit distracted by another meeting right now though, but i'll try to follow along :)
[14:27] <seb128> kenvandine, do we have a bug about those issues?
[14:28] <kenvandine> not sure, we have in the past ;)
[14:28] <kenvandine> but flakyness comes and goes :/
[14:28] <kenvandine> and likely not the same issue
[14:28] <seb128> right
[14:28] <seb128> let's see, waiting for a reply but I'm going to open one in a bit
[15:10] <pitti> oh, I forgot to say good morning earlier, so:
[15:10] <pitti> good morning!
[15:16] <didrocks> good morning pitti :)
[15:20] <pitti> bonjour didrocks :)
[15:20] <larsu> hi pitti!
[15:20] <pitti> didrocks: c'est presque le fin de la semaine pour toi, non ? :-)
[15:20] * pitti tips hat towards larsu
[15:21] <didrocks> pitti: presque, en effet ! et toi, tu as le temps pour une glace avant de venir à Londres ? :)
[15:22] <pitti> didrocks: je ne crois pas ça, je m'en vais à 15:30
[15:22] <didrocks> ah en effet, ce sera à l'arrivée alors :)
[15:23] <Laney> bonjour petit chat
[15:23] <pitti> didrocks: mais je peux manger de la glace à Londres !
[15:24] <didrocks> pitti: il fera beau en plus !
[15:24] <didrocks> Laney: a wise man said one day "nage, nage petit poisson"
[15:25] <Laney> the small animal zoo
[15:25] <seb128> hey pitti
[15:29] <cyphermox> hey pitti, how are you on this fine morning?
[16:59] <willcooke> quittin' time - see you guys next week \o/
[20:08] <willcooke> I'll just leave this here from mterry: https://github.com/mikix/deb2snap
[20:08] <willcooke> seb128, when you're back ^^^^
[20:09] <willcooke> tata
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2015-04-17-#xubuntu-devel
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"Luyin",
"_1_Karatecitizen",
"astraljava",
"bluesabre",
"brainwash",
"davmor2",
"dkessel",
"elfy",
"jjfrv8",
"knome",
"krytarik",
"micahg",
"ochosi",
"slickymasterWork",
"zequence"
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"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:47",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23xubuntu-devel.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
|
[00:34] <micahg> are the images good now?
[00:35] <elfy> not completely checked micahg
[00:35] <micahg> ok, I'll be around tomorrow and sunday
[00:35] <elfy> hardware works
[00:35] <micahg> I meant the bug from earlier :)
[00:36] <elfy> if someone can look in virtual over the next few hours I can catch up
[00:36] <elfy> micahg: so do I - it's almost 2am here ...
[00:39] <elfy> micahg: if you get time a boot to 'try' and a boot to 'install' - super helpful for me
[00:39] <micahg> I have to go clear some disk space first
[00:42] <elfy> even more super helpful then :)
[00:42] <jjfrv8> elfy, I just did installs of 32 and 64 in vbox. Reported results on tracker. They both hang after pressing restart.
[00:42] <jjfrv8> Haven't done 'try' yet.
[00:43] <elfy> jjfrv8: resynced? we are on .1 already :)
[00:43] <jjfrv8> Yes
[00:44] <elfy> [00:40] <elfy> bluesabre cyphermox - ok, so with the 2150416.1image on hardware, boots and reboots with an image created with gnome-disks as UEFI and standard
[00:44] <elfy> [00:41] <elfy> vbox appears to give problems still
[00:44] <elfy> [00:41] <elfy> not sure about kvm
[00:44] <knome> elfy, ok with topic change
[00:45] <elfy> really hating on vbox again, but it really is time for bed
[00:45] <elfy> knome: ack - so who' got topic change access?
[00:45] <knome> i have
[00:45] <elfy> you, Unit193 ?
[00:46] <knome> he too
[00:46] <elfy> mmm
[00:47] <elfy> so possibly hours and hours
[00:48] <micahg> do we still have that iso tester software in the repo?
[00:48] <knome> elfy, you should be able to do that now as well..
[00:48] <elfy> micahg testdrive?
[00:48] <knome> elfy, (just topic stuff)
[00:49] <micahg> yeah :)
[00:49] <knome> i guess we could have a brief discussion whether all in team should have that access..
[00:49] <elfy> micahg: if so - just grab vbox and image - same thing
[00:50] <elfy> knome: in hexchat other channels, I grab ops then edit topic and enter, assume same
[00:51] <elfy> micahg: I am not sure what testdrive even does tbh
[00:51] <micahg> downloads ISO and starts testing env
[00:51] <knome> elfy, /msg topic #xubuntu-devel New topic here
[00:51] <knome> ehh
[00:51] <knome> elfy, /msg Chanserv topic #xubuntu-devel New topic here
[00:52] <micahg> elfy: uses kvm
[00:52] <elfy> wouldbe good to see where we are, I think not quoite right
[00:52] * elfy uses that if it proves issue is not just vbox and Xubuntu :)
[00:53] <elfy> also goes to sleep
[00:53] <elfy> knome: ty
[00:53] <knome> np
[00:54] <knome> nighty!
[00:54] <bluesabre> night elfy
[00:54] <bluesabre> I'll give the iso a spin once it finishes downloading
[00:54] <elfy> bluesabre: tomorrow ....
[00:55] <elfy> I knew I should have waited to shout lol
[00:55] <elfy> though do that - then work out with micahg what's up :D
[00:57] <bluesabre> :)
[04:32] <bluesabre> elfy: 64bit in vbox, install complete, hit restart and freeze
[04:33] <bluesabre> force reboot after and it comes up to good install
[04:35] <bluesabre> and that's a known and reported bug, so yeah :)
[04:37] <bluesabre> hm, but that was marked as fix released in vivid, maybe it didn't land in .1?
[04:39] <bluesabre> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/966480/comments/54
[04:39] <bluesabre> might need to poke around to see if that's supposed to be fixed
[05:57] <dkessel> slickyma1ter: i don't know if you noticed, but i see the german translation is somehow currently not included in the desktop-guide docs for vivid... :(
[06:08] <ochosi> morning everyone
[06:19] <dkessel> morning ochosi
[09:53] <elfy> morning all
[09:54] <ochosi> morning elfy
[09:55] <elfy> hi ochosi :)
[10:22] <astraljava> o/
[10:22] <elfy> hi astraljava
[10:22] <astraljava> I'll be doing the testing this evening, around 1900 UTC onwards.
[10:23] <elfy> awesome
[10:24] <elfy> I'm waiting for the new daily to show up - then I need to do some quick smoketests to be happy it works :)
[10:26] <astraljava> Is that the release candidate, or will it be marked differently?
[10:29] <elfy> until infinity does the tracker this evening - I don't know, can't remember what happened last cycle :D
[10:29] <elfy> it might possibly get marked differently on the tracker
[10:30] <astraljava> Alright, I'll check that out, and here as well, before starting the tests, so I won't perform them on wrong images.
[10:31] <elfy> once I know what's going on I'll post to the m/l
[10:31] <astraljava> Ok great!
[10:32] <ochosi> elfy: yeah, before 19utc i might be able to run some tests too, would be great to know when today's images are out so feel free to ping
[10:33] <elfy> something is stirring in the deep dark woods of the tracker it seems :)
[10:33] <elfy> vivid final is getting populated as we speak
[11:06] <elfy> ochosi: that'll be a ping for you now, today's image is there - Daily still
[11:06] <ochosi> elfy: thanks!
[11:06] <ochosi> anything to look out for specifically?
[11:07] <elfy> not that I know of new - not looked yet today
[11:07] <elfy> but - I'm expecting it to fail in vbox on reboot again
[11:08] <ochosi> k, zsyncing...
[11:32] <ochosi> man, i really need a new laptop, those installs area taking ages...
[11:32] <elfy> ...
[11:32] <elfy> I've done 64/32 in vbox - fails to reboot properly
[11:34] <elfy> just doing both kvm
[11:36] <zequence> elfy: How is kvm these days?
[11:37] <ochosi> yeah, seems to hang here too at reboot
[11:37] <elfy> zequence: I don't use it much to be honest
[12:17] <elfy> ochosi: ok, so I've done 32 and 64 bit on vbox, kvm and hardware - all fail to reboot from install
[12:18] <elfy> kvm and hardware reboot properly from livesession - so that's odd but I suspect explainable
[12:20] <knome> bbl
[12:20] <brainwash> does xubuntu have to fix this or does it affect all ubuntu variants?
[12:20] <elfy> brainwash: I've just synced ubuntu - going to run the 3
[12:20] <elfy> I think that lubuntu is seeing the same
[12:21] <elfy> cyphermox has been looking at this
[12:21] <brainwash> :/
[12:22] <brainwash> bug #?
[12:24] <elfy> bug 1436715
[12:24] <elfy> again
[12:30] <elfy> brainwash: yesterday at some point *we* booted and the wallpaper behind the try/install dialogue was the xfce one
[12:32] <brainwash> more bad news right before final release =S
[12:33] <brainwash> who manages to break these things? :)
[12:33] <elfy> :)
[12:34] <elfy> this has been an issue on and off for a couple of months
[12:35] <brainwash> will be probably fixed in 15.10 then
[12:35] <elfy> :)
[12:35] <elfy> Ubuntu is having issues as well - luckily for us
[12:36] <elfy> I'll get my head together and go visit the people in -release in a bit
[12:38] <brainwash> good luck
[12:38] <elfy> lol
[12:39] <brainwash> mmh, you can talk to cyphermox in this channel too :D
[12:39] <elfy> yea - he's everywhere :)
[12:41] <davmor2> elfy: I just tried an oem install on Ubuntu I'm upto issue 6
[12:41] <davmor2> that was issue 2
[12:41] <elfy> having some fun then ...
[12:42] <davmor2> elfy: oh yeah, I mean who wouldn't want an oem install that had no way to prep for end user
[12:42] <elfy> ;)
[12:42] <davmor2> ooops
[12:43] <elfy> very ooops :D
[12:44] <elfy> for *us* it is just so much easier when Ubuntu breaks as well
[12:47] <davmor2> elfy: hahaha
[12:47] <_1_Karatecitizen> nice to meet you
[12:48] <elfy> hi _1_Karatecitizen
[12:48] <_1_Karatecitizen> what's your name plz
[12:48] <elfy> ummm - elfy ...
[12:48] <_1_Karatecitizen> ok u a guy
[12:49] <elfy> could be - could be not - could even be a myth
[12:49] <_1_Karatecitizen> I'm just trying to figure out this complicated app
[12:49] <elfy> not that it matters at all
[12:50] <_1_Karatecitizen> are there others here in the room?
[12:53] <elfy> yes
[12:55] <_1_Karatecitizen> ok
[12:57] <_1_Karatecitizen> how can my phone only search girl contacts??
[12:58] <elfy> this is the wrong channel, this is xubuntu devel channel
[12:58] <brainwash> elfy: it's most likely a chat bot
[12:58] <elfy> mmm
[13:00] <elfy> someone like knome or Unit193 will get rid I guess
[13:01] <_1_Karatecitizen> it's silly if u not sure the person u adding isguy or girl
[13:02] <_1_Karatecitizen> is that a room
[13:36] <slickymasterWork> krytarik, what do you mean by "proper attribution for the changes"?
[13:36] <slickymasterWork> didn't quite understood
[13:37] <krytarik> The changelog of the last changes doesn't include many of the changes I did.
[13:37] <slickymasterWork> well, those ^^^ were plenty and I opt for a sort of a summary on the changelog
[13:38] <krytarik> Incl. the one pertaining to that.
[13:40] <slickymasterWork> I'll make a deal you with, you do a MP to fix the bug in the Make file and I'll assure you that the changelog will show that exactly
[13:40] <slickymasterWork> deal?
[13:40] <krytarik> The 'fix' change? No, no deal.
[13:42] <krytarik> I'd be willing to throw up a diff for you though.
[13:42] <ochosi> please, no throwing up in this channel
[13:42] <krytarik> lol
[13:42] <ochosi> we just cleaned it
[13:45] <slickymasterWork> you drive a hard bargain krytarik
[13:45] <slickymasterWork> ;P
[13:45] <slickymasterWork> will your diff solve the issue?
[13:45] <krytarik> lol
[13:48] <krytarik> slickymasterWork: Working on it already, btw - incl. the "Xubuntu Team<EMAIL_ADDRESS>one you guys wanted.
[13:48] <slickymasterWork> wasn't that already included ?!
[13:49] <krytarik> I didn't. Did you?
[13:50] <krytarik> Nope, you didn't.
[13:50] <slickymasterWork> well, I could swear that I did, but I won't go as far as testify for it in a court of law
[13:50] * slickymasterWork is going cuckoo
[13:50] * slickymasterWork bows and thanks krytarik for doing it now for him
[13:53] <slickymasterWork> dkessel, thanks for pointing it out for us
[21:03] <astraljava> I suppose we're not to expect the RC images come out before the dawn, right?
[21:06] <knome> astraljava, go to sleep :)
[21:08] <astraljava> Aye, see about it in the morning, then. G'night!
[21:09] <knome> nighty :)
[21:53] <bluesabre> hi all
[21:53] <bluesabre> for a teensy bit at least
[21:55] <Luyin> hi bluesabre
[21:56] <bluesabre> hey Luyin
[21:59] <knome> seanety sean
[22:03] <bluesabre> :D
[22:03] <bluesabre> and bye again, bbl
[23:54] <krytarik> slickymaster: There you go - for when you come back later: http://paste.openstack.org/show/Zff6U1mDW5RMepwTy8vz/
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2015-04-17-#ubuntu-us-mi
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"authors": [
"ColonelPanic001",
"_stink_",
"brousch",
"cmaloney",
"greg-g",
"jrwren",
"rick_h_"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-mi",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:48",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/17/%23ubuntu-us-mi.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
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[01:33] <cmaloney> Om things will be fine om
[02:07] <greg-g> :)
[02:08] <greg-g> _stink_: you're not far from the truth, that's what I've been telling my team all week, which is true, I'm just stressed from the process, not the outcome
[02:28] <_stink_> process determines at least half of daily satisfaction in my opinion.
[02:28] <_stink_> REVOLT!
[02:58] <greg-g> _stink_: oh so true. which is why I had a stress headache each day this week, it'll all be "over" on Tuesday (when we announce the reorg for realz)
[02:58] <greg-g> not that everyone doesn't already know
[02:59] <_stink_> so when are you hiring? :)
[04:42] <greg-g> _stink_: next quarter, aka June-ish
[04:46] <_stink_> cool!
[09:54] <jrwren> "If you can't handle me at my worst, then you don't deserve me at my best.” apparently isn’t an appropriate response to breaking production.
[10:41] <rick_h_> jrwren: wtf did you do?
[11:50] <brousch> rick_h_ with a pony tail http://xkcd.com/1513/
[11:57] <jrwren> rick_h_: lol :)
[13:44] <cmaloney> Good morning
[14:32] <ColonelPanic001> 'morning
[14:58] <greg-g> yo yo
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"authors": [
"elky",
"ianorlin",
"nhaines",
"philipballew"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-ca",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:49",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/18/%23ubuntu-us-ca.txt"
}
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[02:07] <elky> nhaines: hi?
[02:45] <ianorlin> [#ubuntu-us-ca]
[02:45] <ianorlin> oops
[02:48] <ianorlin> hmm gah this open source bridge confrence has such good talks on youtube can't stop watching
[04:34] <nhaines> elky: hi!
[04:36] <elky> nhaines: hi, so it's meeting week :)
[04:37] <nhaines> elky: so it is! Oh, it's Friday which means emails.
[04:37] <elky> :)
[04:37] <elky> i haven't done wiki so i'm hardly one to talk
[04:37] <elky> i'm about to do it now
[04:38] <elky> (wiki that is)
[04:38] <nhaines> I need to change my Google Calendar reminder. It alerts me on Wednesday and Friday beforehand, but I'm just like "cool, keep Sunday night free."
[04:38] <nhaines> Yeah, I'll do the email. Thanks for reminding me.
[04:38] <elky> np
[04:38] <ianorlin> and vivid release is Thursday
[04:50] <elky> weekees done
[04:58] <elky> and also on the slowco directory
[05:01] <nhaines> I'm very pleased because the $4 USB-OTG cable I got makes my tablet (and presumably also my phone) a very nice terminal emulator in Ubuntu. Also Android.
[20:16] <philipballew> pleia2, Is getting a visa for Ghana a difficult process?
[20:16] <philipballew> I am gonna help a friend out who has never left the country fill one out and apply today.
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2015-04-18-#juju
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"authors": [
"francokaerntna",
"jackweirdy",
"wurde"
],
"channel": "#juju",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:50",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/18/%23juju.txt"
}
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I entered both networks in maas 'network' tab, added 2 interfaces (one of each network) to the cluster, and even 'juju status' is showing me both networks. any clue?
[21:53] <wurde> juju and maas seems promising, wish there were more tutorials of the two used side by side
[21:59] <francokaerntna> wurde: it is indeed! Works nearly out of the box (still needed 3 days to make it work)
[22:00] <wurde> hey franco
[22:01] <wurde> I feel that way, but it's off my surface level impressions and I'm reading the maas docs.
[22:01] <jackweirdy> Lets say I have a service that I deploy to production with Juju, and I do my development locally. Is it feasible to do development inside a local juju deployment, then commit the code, and have my CI server deploy to production via Juju? Or is that crazy talk. I ask because we have a complicated mesh of dependencies, whose configuration and deployment Juju solves quite nicely. Seems weird to have that benefit for
[22:01] <jackweirdy> production but not development
[22:02] <jackweirdy> Hello everyone, btw :)
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"Cizelia",
"DReynolds",
"GridCube",
"Guest65514",
"Luyin",
"bekks",
"cfhowlett",
"cq-aux",
"debbiecute",
"drc",
"giandi",
"gnumbknuts",
"holstein",
"htqp",
"knome",
"littlebit",
"lzkill",
"meultaine",
"mrkramps",
"shp",
"stuart4558",
"whatever",
"xangua",
"xubuntu21w",
"xubuntu398",
"xubuntu44w",
"xubuntu667",
"xubuntu90w"
],
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"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:51",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/18/%23xubuntu.txt"
}
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[01:15] <lzkill> my brand new sandisk extreme pen drive makes the network freezes whenever it's inserted... it's NTFS formatted and contains a folder encrypted with EFS... what could be the relationship here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10841703/
[01:16] <lzkill> i'm on 14.04 LTS, by the way
[02:06] <holstein> lzkill: could be anything hardware related.. do other "pen drives" do the same? does the same stick do the same thing formatted differently? or unencrypted?
[02:12] <lzkill> holstein: other sticks don't do it. this sandisk comes FAT32 from factory and at first it was just fine, what makes me think it's sth with the NTFS...
[02:13] <holstein> sure.. since, i would want/need the data backed up to a different location, regardless, i would backup, make sure i have the data in a few locations, and, try isolating the variables, and testing
[02:14] <holstein> format another "known good" stick with the same format you have, and format the "bad" stick with something else.. and, mount that stick on a live iso, and as another user.. and with other live iso's as well.. to isolate my installed system, my user config, and my current system's kernel, etc
[02:15] <holstein> you can also ask in #ubuntu for a larger audience, and better chance of support, since, its not related to xfce or xubuntu directly
[02:19] <lzkill> holstein: I'll try that and return to let you know what I've found... thanks!
[08:28] <xubuntu398> Hi?
[08:29] <cfhowlett> ho?
[08:29] <xubuntu398> I need to ask a question about xubuntu
[08:29] <cfhowlett> !ask
[08:30] <xubuntu398> ok, are there software simulator of electronic circuit for xubuntu?
[08:30] <cfhowlett> xubuntu398, there is ... don't remember the name. let me look
[08:31] <xubuntu398> I'd like to use "LTspice" or something like this
[08:32] <cfhowlett> xubuntu398, no idea what that is but see tkgate
[08:35] <xubuntu398> if I have a 64bit processor, may I use xubuntu?
[08:35] <cfhowlett> xubuntu398, of course
[08:37] <xubuntu398> which are advantage and problems to use xubuntu endeed of ubuntu
[08:38] <cfhowlett> !flavors | ubuntu398, xubuntu is optimized for low spec and legacy hardware
[08:40] <xubuntu398> Thanks, but I mean, what is better? May I prefer xubuntu for a 64bit, and why?
[08:40] <bekks> There is no reason for not choosing 64bit when the hardware is 64bit capable.
[08:41] <cfhowlett> xubuntu398, "better" is up to the user. Choose the one you like best = "better" "best"
[08:42] <xubuntu398> sorry, I mean. If xubuntu is optimized for low spec pc; there are good reasons to use xubuntu on pc with high spec?
[08:43] <cfhowlett> xubuntu398, see no reason to. no reason not to. Decide for yourself.
[08:44] <bekks> If something runs good on a low spec hardware, it runs good on a high spec hardware, too. I second cfhowlett,it is your decision.
[08:45] <xubuntu398> xubuntu use low space of RAMs, so I image to have more RAMs for my applications. Is it correct?
[08:49] <knome> xubuntu398, xubuntu isn't specifically designed for low spec computers, but sure, if the system uses less RAM, then your applications will have more in use
[08:59] <gnumbknuts> xubuntu396: Unfortunately LTspice only works in Linux under WINE. Many years ago I used it exclusively, it worked almost as good as it did under MS-Windows. That was with a AMD-K7 CPU, around 2004 vintage.
[09:21] <xubuntu667> hello
[09:22] <cfhowlett> xubuntu667, ask your ubuntu questions
[09:22] <xubuntu667> im just installing xubuntu on my old pc, 2.4GHz, 1GB ram, will it run smoothly?
[09:23] <xubuntu667> i tried ubuntu before but it lagged really hard
[09:23] <cfhowlett> xubuntu667, yeah, xubuntu would have no problem with that.
[09:23] <cfhowlett> download the .iso and do a live boot test.
[09:23] <xubuntu667> ok thanks a lot
[10:38] <giandi> c'è qualche italiano che mi può aiutare?
[10:41] <giandi> Io scrivo lo stesso il mio problema: Fino a due giorni fa riuscivo a collegare il mio iPad con il mio pc xubuntu,solo che ieri ho aggiornato l'iPad e stamattina ogni volta che attacco l'iPad al computer mi da errore dicendo che è impossibile montare l'iPad,dove sta il problema secondo voi?
[10:42] <bekks> !it | giandi
[10:43] <giandi> Until two days ago I could connect my iPad with my pc xubuntu , just yesterday I updated the iPad this morning and whenever you attack the iPad to the computer gives me error saying that it is impossible to mount the iPad , where is the problem in your opinion?
[10:44] <bekks> So it doesnt work after updating the ipad - so the ipad update is the problem.
[10:46] <giandi> so I have to wait for the next update of Ubuntu or downgrade iPad?
[10:47] <Luyin> or check whether you can enable some debugging option or so to connect to ubuntu agai
[10:47] <Luyin> n
[10:49] <giandi> How can i check?
[10:52] <Luyin> you'd have to google for that
[11:14] <lzkill> !patience
[11:55] <htqp> Xubuntu 14.04. After a chromium update, after switching workspaces it fails to display the browser. it will reappear element by element by hovering with the mouse. The browser reappears if I minimize then maximize another window in the same target workspace.
[11:55] <htqp> any idea?
[12:19] <htqp> for those interested, here's the bug report https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=293128&q=workspace&sort=-modified&colspec=ID%20Pri%20M%20Week%20ReleaseBlock%20Cr%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20OS%20Modified
[12:24] <meultaine> Hello, I got some issues with my Lenovo x240 under Xubuntu 14.10. My touchpad sometimes detected (but stops working after using the physical clic) and most fo the time, it's not detected by xubuntu (not present in pointing devices). Is there any driver I can use to fix this problem ?
[12:24] <cfhowlett> meultaine, ask #ubuntu
[12:49] <cq-aux> `heya
[12:49] <cq-aux> I'd like to remove tumbler [without] removing xubuntu-desktop, could you pls tell me how to?
[12:51] <cfhowlett> cq-aux, terminal: sudo apt-get purge tumbler && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:53] <littlebit> hi people, I changed the skin of my midnight-commander and when i start mc I get the message that it cannot change to a 256 color skin on a non-256 colors terminal. How do I make the change to the xfce terminal systemwide permanent?
[12:53] <cq-aux> cfhowlett: ahh... tumbler is a dependency of xubuntu-desktop and will then be installed again
[12:54] <cfhowlett> cq-aux, correctomundo
[12:54] <cq-aux> ok lol
[12:55] <cq-aux> that really fuxed my problemundo
[12:55] <cfhowlett> cq-aux, why remove tumbler??
[12:55] <cq-aux> it's getting fatter and fatter
[12:56] <cfhowlett> cq-aux, thumbnails don't take THAT much space, do they??
[12:56] <cq-aux> and my computer is quite slow so I don't need thumbnails
[12:56] <cq-aux> it's actually a fat tumblerD
[12:57] <cq-aux> my daemons won't quit hogging the limelight you see
[13:13] <cq-aux> http://askubuntu.com/questions/543494/can-i-safely-remove-tumbler-in-xubuntu-14-04
[13:14] <cq-aux> solved
[13:14] <cq-aux> ty
[13:14] <cq-aux> I love ubuntu!
[13:55] <xubuntu90w> I am trying to fit a linux distro to an old 486 box. There are many Live distros, but I need install. 20 Mb HDD, 512 Mb memory.
[13:55] <cfhowlett> xubuntu90w, lubuntu
[13:55] <xubuntu90w> Should I be using xubuntu or something else?
[13:55] <xubuntu90w> lubuntu is better for this?
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | xubuntu90w
[13:57] <mrkramps> i do not think ubuntu kernel will work on 486
[13:58] <cfhowlett> lubuntu is optimized for low spec and legacy hardware.
[13:58] <mrkramps> but a 486 is antique
[13:58] <Luyin> xubuntu90w: I don't know enough about architectures, but you might want to try a really small distro, like DSL or puppy
[14:00] <mrkramps> ubuntu somewhen dropped support for i486 afaik
[14:00] <mrkramps> debian should still work
[14:00] <mrkramps> maybe also slitaz and tinycore
[14:00] <mrkramps> damn small linux (DSL) is not recommended anymore
[14:01] <Luyin> you could also try gentoo, but I'm not sure if that's not too much computing for such old hardware
[14:13] <xubuntu90w> The problem with DSL and puppy is that they seem hard to install. They run easily as live
[14:15] <Luyin> xubuntu90w: puppy is quite easy to install on hard drive
[14:15] <Luyin> but yes, you can (and perhaps even should) run them live
[14:16] <xubuntu90w> I want to create a box for somebody who is non-technical.
[14:16] <xubuntu90w> The idea of running a Live is scary for them
[14:16] <cfhowlett> xubuntu90w, virtualbox
[14:17] <mrkramps> 486 is a bad choice then … the system should at least provide some basic performance to deal with everyday tasks like internet
[14:18] <xubuntu90w> What's wrong with DSL?
[14:18] <mrkramps> DSL is outdated, last stable 2008 and last beta 2012
[14:18] <xubuntu90w> So is the hardware I'm using
[14:19] <Luyin> but it's never good to use unsupported software, xubuntu90w
[14:19] <Luyin> you could setup an XFCE in kiosk mode for these guests
[14:19] <mrkramps> i admit, DSL should still be ok on a system not connected to the internet
[14:19] <Luyin> or simply use guest accounts
[14:20] <xubuntu90w> There are a lot of old boxes out there. Many use things like XP. Surely Linux can improve on that?
[14:20] <Luyin> anything is better than using XP :)
[14:20] <Luyin> still, I'd suggest Lubuntu
[14:20] <xubuntu90w> Agreed! So pls suggest some anythings!
[14:21] <cfhowlett> xubuntu90w, LOTS of us have already suggested lubuntu.
[14:21] <xubuntu90w> I can give it a try. Just hope I am not wasting a CD :)
[14:22] <mrkramps> lubuntu will not work on a 486
[14:22] <cfhowlett> mrkramps, false. I'm in China and I've booted many with lubuntu/485.
[14:23] <cfhowlett> *486*
[14:23] <Luyin> cfhowlett: how does your being in China relate to that? :D
[14:24] <cfhowlett> Luyin, no shortage of legacy equipment to test things on ...
[14:24] <Luyin> ah okay, didn't think of that
[14:24] <xubuntu90w> Why not on a 486? Shall I move to china for this attempt :-P
[14:34] <xubuntu44w> Xubutnu can't see my wireless card. ASUS laptop. noob here what do I do?
[14:35] <cfhowlett> xubuntu44w, has it ever seen it? new install?
[14:35] <Luyin> what do you mean, can't see? you can't connect to a wireless network?
[14:35] <xubuntu44w> yes it cant connect
[14:36] <xubuntu44w> i think i need a driver
[14:38] <mrkramps> chipset?
[14:40] <xubuntu44w> i'm new, what commands do i need to run
[14:41] <mrkramps> xubuntu44w, pastebin the output of terminal command :$ lspci
[14:41] <xubuntu90w> bye-bye
[14:41] <mrkramps> xubuntu90w, or just:$ lscpi | grep Network
[14:41] <mrkramps> bargh
[14:46] <xubuntu44w> http://pastebin.com/vcJ9D3PR
[14:48] <mrkramps> xubuntu44w, there is a tool in the menu/settings called "additional drivers"
[14:49] <mrkramps> you'll most prolly need the madwifi drivers
[14:49] <xubuntu44w> no additional drivers available
[14:52] <mrkramps> xubuntu44w, can you pastebin the following output as well:$ lsmod
[14:54] <xubuntu44w> http://pastebin.com/usx49yMK
[14:57] <mrkramps> xubuntu44w, and now please a:$ rfkill list
[14:58] <xubuntu44w> http://pastebin.com/zZVhjU2D
[15:00] <mrkramps> xubuntu44w, you wifi device is hard blocked … is there any hardware switch or Fn - combination on your laptop?
[15:04] <stuart4558> mrkramps i'm back. I'm the guy wtith the asus wireless problem.
[15:04] <stuart4558> no physical switch
[15:04] <stuart4558> FN key doesnt do anyting when I press it
[15:06] <mrkramps> stuart4558, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2221294 linked with solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2181558
[15:06] <mrkramps> you'll need to check is option wapf=4 or wapf=1 works for you
[15:06] <mrkramps> *if
[15:11] <stuart4558> thanks so much for the help. rebooting now to verify
[15:19] <stuart4558> thanks for the help. asus wireless problem is fixed
[15:19] <mrkramps> stuart4558, i guess Fn + F2 still not working?
[15:20] <stuart4558> mrkamps, thanks for all the help
[15:20] <stuart4558> no fn-f2 does nothing
[15:20] <mrkramps> if you want to disable wifi you may still use the rfkill command
[15:20] <stuart4558> ok
[15:20] <mrkramps> i guess you know what a manpage is ;)
[15:21] <stuart4558> ???
[15:21] <mrkramps> stuart4558, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/man
[15:22] <mrkramps> in short terminal manuals for a specific command … just in case you want to know how rfkill works in detail
[15:22] <stuart4558> thanks
[15:22] <mrkramps> you're welcome
[15:38] <stuart4558> happy saturday everyone
[16:09] <Cizelia> How do I install themes on xubuntu?
[18:45] <shp> hi there... pls help if u can...my pc wakes up from suspend at 05:55am every morning ...what to do to stop it happen again ? Thanks in advance
[18:46] <shp> last night I shut it down butagain this morning..
[18:46] <shp> 14.04 here
[18:46] <mrkramps> wakeonlan?
[18:46] <shp> i use wifi
[18:47] <mrkramps> and you tried with poweroff last night?
[18:47] <shp> yes
[18:47] <shp> and again 05:55am..fans dtarted
[18:47] <shp> the wifi adapter was disconnected
[18:48] <mrkramps> interesting
[18:48] <shp> i use 3m usb cable with an wifi adapter on the end to get better reception outside my room
[18:49] <shp> beffore i use an app to wake me up at 05:55 but its removed
[18:49] <shp> i removed it
[18:49] <shp> it doesnt starts i think...cuz it was with mp3 play to wake me up
[18:49] <shp> now just my pc starts...
[18:50] <shp> at 05:55
[18:50] <mrkramps> which app?
[18:50] <shp> some kinda alarm clock
[18:50] <shp> ..with mp3 playin abil;ities
[18:50] <shp> abilities*
[18:50] <mrkramps> maybe still an entry in /etc/crontab?
[18:51] <shp> i dont know thats whu i am asking...i have terminal open what to do?
[18:51] <mrkramps> cat /etc/crontab
[18:52] <shp> ..the aPP has been uninstaled from the soft center
[18:52] <mrkramps> shp, removed or purged?
[18:54] <shp> removed i guess...cuz now my pc starts...to login screen xfce...without playin the mp3 i have chosen for @alarm@
[18:54] <shp> what output i should have with cat
[18:54] <shp> cat /etc/crontab =?
[18:54] <mrkramps> but w/o purge there still may be some configuration files
[18:55] <mrkramps> it would be really helpful if you remember the name of this application
[18:55] <shp> uhh
[18:55] <shp> how can i view the history of inst apps?
[18:56] <shp> ubuntu soft centr?
[18:57] <drc> History Icon in top menu
[18:57] <drc> er...not menu :)
[18:58] <drc> whatever the icon bar is called
[18:58] <mrkramps> tool bar, i guess
[18:58] <shp> wow theres plenty of stuff there
[18:58] <drc> look at removals
[18:59] <shp> alarm-clock applet
[18:59] <shp> thats it
[18:59] <shp> !!!
[19:00] <shp> ->removals
[19:00] <shp> drc thanks man for the help!
[19:00] <drc> np
[19:00] <shp> what i should do
[19:01] <shp> i already googled My-pc-wakes up-by-itself-suspend
[19:01] <drc> mrkramps you're up I use synaptic :)
[19:02] <drc> And there's a config for complete removal vs leave the configs
[19:02] <shp> can u guys give me a hand somehow?
[19:03] <mrkramps> does not look as if the package has any files connected with cron
[19:03] <shp> last night i shut it down..and again today at 05:55am
[19:03] <shp> ....i needed to be up at this time...but not by my pc
[19:04] <mrkramps> shp, have you checked your bios settings?
[19:04] <shp> i havent touched my bios settings at all
[19:04] <xubuntu21w> is it possible to get a wireless adapter to work if you dont have access to the internet on that pc
[19:05] <mrkramps> that's weird … if you poweroff the system there should be no way then to physically start your machine
[19:05] <shp> ....before installing THAT app all was perfect
[19:05] <mrkramps> xubuntu21w, sure
[19:05] <drc> and have you checked crontab as mrk suggested (just in case) ?
[19:05] <xubuntu21w> how
[19:05] <mrkramps> shp, try: sudo apt-get autoremove --purge alarm-clock*
[19:05] <shp> drc what output should i have
[19:06] <mrkramps> drc, could be possible somewhere in /etc/crond.*/ as well … but the package content does not list anything suspicious
[19:06] <mrkramps> xubuntu21w, depends on your wireless device
[19:06] <shp> The following packages will be REMOVED
[19:06] <shp> alarm-clock-applet* gstreamer0.10-gconf* libappindicator1* libindicator7*
[19:06] <shp> linux-headers-3.13.0-24* linux-headers-3.13.0-24-generic*
[19:06] <shp> linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic* linux-image-extra-3.13.0-24-generic*
[19:06] <shp> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 8 to remove and 7 not to upgrade.
[19:06] <shp> After this operation, 222 MB disk space will be freed.
[19:07] <shp> should i YES?
[19:07] <drc> mrkramps: I read that, but it's best to eliminate the easy stuff first. :)
[19:07] <shp> ..this linux images ...?
[19:07] <mrkramps> shp, old kernel-versions which should be save to remove
[19:08] <xubuntu21w> .
[19:08] <mrkramps> xubuntu21w, one more and you're on my ignore list!
[19:08] <mrkramps> told you so
[19:09] <shp> right
[19:09] <shp> there is no error msgs
[19:09] <shp> t 05:55am
[19:09] <shp> i will find out
[19:10] <shp> mrkramps, what u think was the issue
[19:10] <shp> leftover app
[19:10] <shp> things?
[19:10] <mrkramps> honestly, i have no idea
[19:10] <mrkramps> the app was still installed
[19:11] <mrkramps> but this should not power on a machine
[19:12] <shp> how something can wake the whole system in xubuntu regime ( Ihave windows just in case..) from shutdown
[19:12] <mrkramps> and in windows you did not use such an alarm?
[19:12] <xubuntu21w> what
[19:12] <shp> no
[19:12] <shp> i dont use windows
[19:12] <shp> just for emergency linux drv
[19:13] <shp> i have dual boot
[19:13] <shp> *choose ur destiny* type
[19:13] <mrkramps> shp, you may still check the entries in /etc/crontab and the files in /etc/cron.daily/
[19:13] <drc> shp: did you check the BIOS as mrkramps also suggested?
[19:14] <shp> drc, wakeuponlan is not ON in my exp
[19:14] <shp> mrkramps, how to do it?
[19:14] <mrkramps> shp, all text files
[19:15] <shp> shp@shp:~/Desktop$ /etc/crontab
[19:15] <shp> bash: /etc/crontab: Permission denied
[19:15] <mrkramps> you may use any file manager and text editor you like
[19:15] <drc> sudo
[19:15] <mrkramps> and you do NOT need a terminal to do so!
[19:16] <debbiecute> .
[19:16] <mrkramps> in terminal you can use cat or even better the pager less (close with q)
[19:16] <debbiecute> hello!! i need a command on terminal for close my session
[19:17] <mrkramps> drc, you're ok?
[19:18] <shp> this is the file:
[19:18] <shp> # m h dom mon dow user command
[19:18] <shp> 17 * * * * root cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
[19:18] <shp> 25 6 * * * root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily )
[19:18] <shp> 47 6 * * 7 root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly )
[19:18] <shp> 52 6 1 * * root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.monthly )
[19:18] <shp> #
[19:19] <drc> mrkramps: yeah, just re-installed 15.04 and still config'ing :) Thanks
[19:19] <mrkramps> shp, for longer text output pls use http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:19] <mrkramps> but this file is fine …
[19:20] <shp> I guess you recommend will work properly
[19:20] <shp> your*
[19:21] <shp> i think im safe for now..if something happens..ill be back...if not...Thanls for the help! really appreciated
[19:21] <mrkramps> shp, you're welcome
[21:20] <DReynolds> Hi. hoping someone can help. trying to stick Xubuntu on an old Intel Macbook (make it usefull again :P) .. when I boot from the DVD im just getting "Select CD_ROM Boot Type" with options 1 and 2, both empty and no input being registered. .. tried making a bootable USB install using the iso and "Linux Live USB Creator" but that didn't even show up in the boot menu
[21:21] <xangua> DReynolds: that's only for "pc's"
[21:21] <DReynolds> xangua hmmm, are you able to poit towards something that'd work for a macbook?
[21:22] <xangua> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[21:23] <mrkramps> DReynolds, what kind of macbook?
[21:23] <DReynolds> okay, so thats formatting th usb from the mac, i see. Ive downloaded the ISO on a windows box so was trying to format it from that
[21:24] <DReynolds> mrkramps cant remember exactly the model, a 2006 one i think. got an Intel Core 2 Duo 64-bit
[21:44] <DReynolds> xangua: did all that. USB drive is still not showing up in the boot menu :(
[21:46] <mrkramps> DReynolds, did you check if your iso downloads is not corrupted?
[21:48] <DReynolds> how do i do that again? Xubuntu download page has nothing on it
[21:50] <mrkramps> DReynolds, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[21:51] <mrkramps> and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[21:56] <DReynolds> right. its late. im gonna have another shot tomorrow. thanks guys :)
[22:09] <whatever> hi
[22:09] <whatever> anybody there ?
[22:10] <Guest65514> hi
[22:11] <GridCube> hi
|
2024-05-13T22:10:59.808369
| 2015-04-18T00:00:00
|
2015-04-18-#ubuntu-uk
|
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"popey",
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|
ubuntu-chat
|
[02:06] <daftykins> something wrong with it itself? :)
[02:13] <ali1234> what, twitch?
[02:13] <daftykins> yeah
[02:13] <daftykins> i use it from my xbox one quite a bit
[02:14] <daftykins> though i suspect the main streaming platform OBS doesn't have a Linux client
[02:14] <ali1234> no, it does
[02:14] <ali1234> works fine
[02:15] <ali1234> the problem with twitch is that i don't want to stream games, i don't want it to be public, i don't want it to have ads, and i want to run it on my own server...
[02:15] <ali1234> i just want something with identical functionality (reflecting a stream from my computer to multiple web browser viewers)
[02:21] <daftykins> ah i see
[02:21] <daftykins> hrmm nah sorry no ideas :(
[02:21] <daftykins> here's my brothers speed test of Guernsey's recent LTE rollout... https://www.dropbox.com/s/fj9k6qyfxpswpbx/IMG-20150418-WA0000.jpg?dl=0
[07:38] <knightwise> 02has anyone played with the native calendar app on ubuntu phone yett ?
[08:02] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:04] <elfy> morning bigcalm
[08:04] <daftykins> morn o/
[08:20] <knightwise> morning bigcalm elfy
[08:21] <elfy> hi knightwise
[08:25] <daftykins> aaaaah what a night
[08:51] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:58] <daftykins> \o
[09:04] <brobostigon> morning daftykins
[09:05] <daftykins> ah i had the pleasure just now of seeing GTA V running on my ageing PC - with an xbox controller plugged in no less
[09:05] <daftykins> quite the jump up even for this old thing, from the xbox 360 version i last played
[09:10] <directhex_> i can't get excited for gta5
[09:10] <directhex_> i really didn't like 4
[09:10] <daftykins> totally different, all issues with IV fixed
[09:10] <directhex_> except the biker dlc, i liked that
[09:10] <daftykins> TLAD :D that was neat
[09:11] <daftykins> still clumsy model animations that made it feel like you were controlling a cow in a shopping trolley, mind
[09:11] <directhex_> didn't like the gay dlc. seemed to amplify the worst bits of the base game
[09:11] <directhex_> yes! i always said nico steered like a cow
[09:11] <directhex_> we are unified in our bovine analogies <3
[09:11] <daftykins> XD
[09:11] <daftykins> truth be told i'm just ripping off Yahtzee's description of a Tomb Raider adventure, i must admit
[09:12] <directhex_> "go here to do a quest!" *drive drive drive* "return between 2:30am and 2:45am to start this quest". THANKS, GAME
[09:12] <daftykins> that was a highly foolish mechanic
[09:12] <daftykins> may as well implement petrol
[09:12] <directhex_> so were the beeeeeg american teeeeeties
[09:13] <daftykins> i like to taunt a mate in another channel by highlighting the least fun part of IV, occasionally...
[09:13] <daftykins> "Hey <friend> do you want to go bowling!?"
[09:14] <directhex_> heh
[09:14] <directhex_> i also enjoyed having to stop and queue at toll booths to not get wanted stars ¬_¬
[09:14] <directhex_> basically, saint's row 3 was fun, gta4 was not
[09:14] <daftykins> ah in fairness i sped through every time and it was easy to evade
[09:14] <directhex_> also, i have a new gadget \o/
[09:14] <daftykins> ooh, do tell?
[09:15] <directhex_> car! :D
[09:15] <directhex_> it plugs in, that makes it a gadget
[09:19] <daftykins> :O electric?
[09:21] <daftykins> hrmm simply mail solutions seems to be down for a client 0o
[09:21] <daftykins> just called up from sunny Spain
[09:26] <directhex_> daftykins: volt!
[09:29] <directhex_> i bought an *american* car ._.
[09:29] <daftykins> all your visits to the US have confused you!
[09:31] <directhex_> i've driven a chevy before - a camaro
[09:32] <popey> knightwise: yes, wassup?
[09:34] <daftykins> popey: got a known hijack/shifty site spammer in #ubuntu today - wwwBUKOLAYcom (don't visit)
[09:34] <daftykins> ah another op has woken up
[09:35] <popey> oh?
[09:35] <daftykins> chatting to ikonia about 'em
[09:36] <popey> k
[09:38] <daftykins> done \o/
[09:43] <Myrtti> as a sidenote, if you haven't yet noticed, the Nabee flight socks have a spring sale
[09:44] <popey> heh
[09:44] <popey> nice one daftykins
[09:45] <daftykins> ty :D
[18:04] <MooDoo> howdy all
[18:11] <zmoylan-pi> "o/
[18:59] <penguin42> my dad is disgusted at the replacement kettle I just got him; it doesn't have a light!
[18:59] <shauno> why on earth would you buy a kettle with no light?
[19:00] <penguin42> I didn't know it didn't have a light! I bought a kettle that was metal bodied, 3kw and 1.7l and with a full handle; I didn't even think to check for the presence of a light
[19:00] <zmoylan-pi> why would a kettle need a light? for deaf folk?
[19:01] <shauno> it's tradition.
[19:01] <shauno> it irks me enough that they all seem to like blue ones now. it should be red.
[19:02] <zmoylan-pi> blue leds are just wrong
[19:04] <penguin42> they were cool; 10 years ago
[19:05] <shauno> it's not so much that I mind them, but they seem to show up in places you really don't want them
[19:06] <shauno> (especially every laptop mffr that puts them between the keyboard and the screen)
[19:10] <zmoylan-pi> red leds for bad, green leds for good. blue leds are just redundant.
[19:13] <shauno> I prefer red for most things. it doesn't feel like it's boring into your eyeballs from the other side of the room.
[19:13] <penguin42> well for a kettle, one that changed colour to let you know how close it was to boiling would be best
[19:14] * penguin42 registers a complaint with Russell Hobbs that their form for registering for a 3rd year of guarantee really shouldn't ask for marital status
[19:14] <penguin42> and DoB, and email, phone number and mobile number,etc etc
[19:15] <shauno> perfect - you can ask them why their kettle doesn't have a light while you're at it :)
[19:15] <penguin42> I could
[19:16] <zmoylan-pi> i give up on web forms that ask gender or insist on 2 separate name fields
[19:18] <shauno> I would, to be honest. I wouldn't contact them *just* to ask, but if you're already sending them something, it's a small chance to o_O someone's day
[19:21] <penguin42> sorry, I forgot when I sent them the nasty 'formal data protection query' mail
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.847194
| 2015-04-18T00:00:00
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2015-04-18-#ubuntu-gnome
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|
ubuntu-chat
|
[01:50] <lindol> long time no see
[01:50] <lindol> hi all :)
[02:01] <lindol> so
[02:02] <lindol> if i try to translate package-name, (ex. gnome-map or someting like that)
[02:03] <lindol> should i translate package name to Korean?
[02:14] <darkxst> lindol those translations are in the desktop file
[02:15] <darkxst> i.e /usr/share/applications/org.gnome.Maps.desktop
[02:16] <darkxst> Noskcaj, probably should yes
[02:19] <darkxst> lindol, although that is autogenerated at build time from the po files
[03:32] <lindol> darkxst, sorry? T_T. ok, Can i use english to translate wiki page to Korean?
[03:33] <lindol> like this, gnome-maps와 gnome-weather는 이제 기본으로 설치되어집니다. gnome-photos, gnome-music 그리고 polari는 Ubuntu archive에 설치를 위해 존재합니다.
[03:33] <lindol> package name is keeping in our language
[03:36] <lindol> darkxst, ah..
[03:36] <lindol> i am understanding your mean :)
[03:36] <lindol> Thank you for your tip and help ;)
[03:48] <lindol> I will keep package-name (english) in page. :)
[05:38] <darkxst> lindol you mean on the wiki
[05:39] <darkxst> I thought you wanted to translate the name as shown in gnome-shell or something
[05:43] <darkxst> I don't know if they should be translated on the wiki
[05:52] <darkxst> lindol just "Maps" is ambiguous, and strings with gnome, ie gnome-maps probably arent normally translated?
[05:54] <darkxst> Noskcaj, also if you have any time, would be good to get some of the new 3.16 apps packaged up, calendar etc
[07:27] <Noskcaj> darkxst, i'll see if i can, but ubuntu is less of a priority for me with HSC and work
[07:31] <darkxst> Noskcaj, understand, Im pretty flat out at the moment as well
[07:44] <Noskcaj> Calendar needs evolution 3.13, which is a lot of work.
[08:05] <Noskcaj> darkxst, I'm getting a missing separator error for gnome-characters. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/203665513/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.gnome-characters_3.16.1-0ubuntu1~vivid1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[08:06] <Noskcaj> And there's been a bunch of similar errors with other apps
[08:06] <darkxst> are there patches that touch the Makefile.am?
[08:10] <darkxst> gah but thats a new package, cant be that
[08:10] <darkxst> builds fine under jhbuild
[08:25] <darkxst> Noskcaj, are you getting ok speeds to LP?
[08:25] <darkxst> i can't get over 10KB/s atm :(
[08:33] <Noskcaj> darkxst, I don't get much off that normally, so i've not seen a difference
[08:41] <darkxst> Noskcaj, ok, its painfully slow for me
[20:16] <quadrantids__> Hello, I accepted an update yesterday and since then my keyboard has become buggy.
[20:16] <tuchkata> is the release of Ubuntu Gnome planned for the same date as ubuntu 15.04
[20:17] <quadrantids__> I thought I installed ubuntu gnome 14.10 but Detail says I'm on 15.04
[20:18] <Noskcaj> tuchkata, yes
[20:20] <tuchkata> Nice
[20:21] <tuchkata> than on Thursday i will move oficiialy to Ubuntu Gnome
[20:21] <Noskcaj> :)
[20:23] <tuchkata> I really like Mint
[20:23] <tuchkata> but I love Gnome 3.14 and 3.16
[22:55] <darkxst> Noskcaj, gnome-chars fails at @APPSTREAM_XML_RULES@ macro
[22:55] <darkxst> you need appstream-glib
[22:56] <Noskcaj> ty
[23:21] <Noskcaj> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/203727870/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.gnome-characters_3.16.1-0ubuntu1~vivid2_BUILDING.txt.gz
[23:22] <Noskcaj> I'm sure it's an easy fix, but i can't look for a few hours.
[23:37] <darkxst> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748124
[23:37] <darkxst> patch in there
[23:45] <darkxst> Noskcaj, ^
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.863116
| 2015-04-18T00:00:00
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2015-04-18-#ubuntu-server
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|
ubuntu-chat
|
[00:00] <pmatulis> yeah, the client will mention permissions on its own side only
[00:03] <pmatulis> permissions, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10841546/
[00:03] <sarnold> which is as it should be, but the first time you debug one of these things it's pretty annoying :)
[00:09] <Peiniger> pmatulis: thanks
[00:10] <lhorace> Didn't I say that SSHD should be in debug
[03:40] <zzxc> Hey, I have a situation where I have userA and userB both belong to the same group. I have an issue where they are both share a directory that is owned but a group. If userA creates a directory or file then userB can't write in it and viceVersa because the premissions for the new directory are 755. Anyone know a way to fix this?
[03:55] <lhorace> zzxc: Try ACL?
[03:56] <lhorace> You can set which use irregardless of Permissions
[03:56] <lhorace> s/user/
[04:33] <mgooley> Hi everyone! I'm trying to come up with a solution for a DHCP/DNS server. I really like using Ubuntu server, but I only have a 1 GB drive and 1 GB of RAM to work with.
[04:33] <mgooley> Any suggestions? I'm using an old Wyse thin client.
[06:45] <Seveas> mgooley: get a raspberry pi and run raspbian. The cost of buying the pi will be offset soon enough by the electricity bill :)
[09:06] <lordievader> Good morning.
[13:03] <pmatulis> Peiniger: did you solve the ssh problem?
[19:21] <andre_pl> i'm having some raid issues, I've gone through a week of trying to upgrade my drives and probably caused some problems in doing so. I've got the following output from mdstat: http://pastebin.com/0fkr21EM
[19:21] <andre_pl> the correct configuration is a single array of sd[abde]1
[19:22] <andre_pl> i can assemble it that way and it seems to work fine, but on boot I always get back to this
[19:22] <andre_pl> sometimes its sdd which is by itself, other times sda
[19:22] <andre_pl> i feel like may be a side effect of an attempt I made to add the entire /dev/sdd device instead of partitioning it
[19:23] <andre_pl> i since corrected that but maybe somethings left on the drive causing it to auto-detect incorrectly?
[19:52] <HarryRSole> I'm having issues with Webmin. I just installed Webmin via ssh and set the user <root> and <password> so then when I try to log in I can't. I have copied it straight from terminal and pasted into webmin and get loggin failed. Can someone maybe help me with this?
[20:01] <bekks> !webmin
[20:02] <HarryRSole> Ok, I guess that I should check when a webpage gets published.
[20:02] <bekks> Hmm?
[20:02] <HarryRSole> I got my info from a linux home server guide, http://linuxhomeserverguide.com/server-config/NFS.php
[20:03] <HarryRSole> Can you point me in a direction where I can find a guide that is current?
[20:04] <bekks> That guid is at least 4 years old.
[20:04] <bekks> HarryRSole: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[20:06] <HarryRSole> thanks, I'll check it out.
[20:41] <_1_niku> hi
[20:53] <pelle2_> why doesn't find . -name ”*.avi” -type f -exec cp {} ./video \; work?
[20:54] <pelle2_> does anyone have any clue what might be wrong with that command? nothing happens, no error message or anything
[20:55] <bekks> Because of the weird characters before and after *.avi
[20:55] <pelle2_> hm, ok
[20:55] <pelle2_> should be " i guess
[20:55] <bekks> Correct
[20:57] <pelle2_> worked wonders now, thanks alot
[20:58] <pelle2_> now i now that there are different " also
[21:27] <Siilwyn> Hi people, it's late and I thought I would have it done by now but well... I just setup a new Ubuntu server, disabled root access and login in with a password only. Made a new user, gave it sudo access, also changed the port for ssh. But now when I try to SSH like: ssh newuser@hostIP -p newPort it returns 'Permission denied (publickey).'
[21:28] <Siilwyn> So I looked into the authorized_keys file (which I put in the .ssh directory of the new user) through DO's direct access console and compared the key to the one I have on my local machine and they look the same.
[21:29] <Siilwyn> What in the world could be wrong here? :/
[21:29] <andre_pl> permissions on tthe authorized_key file?
[21:29] <andre_pl> if they're not correct it will refuse to read it
[21:29] <andre_pl> not sure what they need to be exactly
[21:30] <andre_pl> ah: http://stackoverflow.com/a/6377073/61000
[21:30] <Siilwyn> If this is it, dis gun be good! ;p
[21:31] <andre_pl> make sure the file is owned by yourself as well, not root or something
[21:35] <Siilwyn> andre_pl, would: -rw------- 1 earth root ... be good?
[21:36] <Siilwyn> Or do I need to change the group as well
[21:36] <andre_pl> probably the group as well, i believe users is the default
[21:36] <Siilwyn> (Sorry I'm a newb when it comes to chown...) Just got permissions figured out.
[21:36] <andre_pl> can anyone help with a lvm question? I've just created a new raid5 array and was able to pvcreate and vgcreate, but lvcreate tells me device or resource busy
[21:38] <andre_pl> http://pastebin.com/rRtTnppn
[21:38] <andre_pl> that's all the info I have on it
[21:39] <Siilwyn> Thanks so much andre_pl!
[21:39] <Siilwyn> I'm sorry I can't help you with your problem.
[21:39] <Siilwyn> Would it be a good idea to remove the root user and the '/root' directory?
[21:40] <andre_pl> no
[21:40] <andre_pl> leave those
[21:40] <Siilwyn> why? (If I may ask ;p
[21:41] <andre_pl> the root user most of your non-user files, /usr /etc etc
[21:41] <andre_pl> removing him would not be good
[21:41] <Siilwyn> oh alright, ofc.
[21:41] <Siilwyn> and what about the '/root' directory?
[21:41] <andre_pl> that's his home dir
[21:41] <andre_pl> theres no reason to remove it, and it might be bad, I dunno
[21:42] <Siilwyn> okay, thanks for your answers
[21:42] <Siilwyn> Just thinking about it, I got stuff secured now but people could get into my server just by logging into my DO account. Only passwords needed.
[21:43] <Siilwyn> I guess there's no way to disable 'direct console access'? If you use Digital Ocean ofc...
[23:22] <BZWingZero> I could use a little help. I have samba configured and am able to map the share from my windows computer.
[23:23] <BZWingZero> However files created (within windows on the share) are not properly getting their permissions set.
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.888282
| 2015-04-18T00:00:00
|
2015-04-18-#ubuntu-africa
|
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"Kilos"
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}
|
ubuntu-chat
|
[05:49] <Kilos> morning africa
[10:51] <Kilos> hi ongolaBoy
[10:52] <Kilos> when are there going to be more mameroonians here??
[10:53] <Kilos> cameroonians as well
|
2024-05-13T22:10:59.922565
| 2015-04-18T00:00:00
|
2015-04-18-#ubuntu-touch
|
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"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/18/%23ubuntu-touch.txt"
}
|
ubuntu-chat
|
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> https://twitter.com/ubuntu
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> alot of cool news again :p
[04:23] <wayne_> hi everyone. how do I back up my ubuntu phone before attempting re-flash? On desktop I just basically save my home directory but how with mobile? Thanks!
[04:23] <wayne_> Like I don't want to lose mjy contacts and what have you.
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> wayne_: copy contacts to your sim
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> wayne_: or install the phablets tools on your ubuntu pc, and backup your phone
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> wayne_: check topic install url for phablet tools
[04:47] <wayne_> lotuspsychje: thanks a lot. I have phablet tools. Didn't know I can use that
[04:47] <wayne_> lotuspsychje: also didn't know I can copy to sim. I will try to figure that out.
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> wayne_: didnt test myself
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> but with pahblet tools you can copy stuff for sure
[04:49] <wayne_> lotuspsychje: ok.
[04:50] <wayne_> lotuspsychje: you would think there would be a simple 'backup phone' button on the main setting screen that prompts you to insert USB.. or perhaps ubuntu one connection or owncloud...
[04:53] <wayne_> lotuspsychje: i think this might be best. I remember some dudes talkinga bout sync revolution or evolution or something. this link seems to have something http://askubuntu.com/questions/365675/backup-export-contacts-from-ubuntu-touch-official-launch-r100-ubuntu-13-10-a
[04:54] <wayne_> lotuspsychje: thanks for your help gotta drop out and have a good night or morning or wherever you are. ;)
[05:31] <mtrh> hi
[06:37] <bqphone> good morning
[06:37] <bqphone> anyone here for quick help?
[06:42] <Sleep_Walker> just ask and if anyone (awake) knows he'll answer
[06:49] <bqphone> Well first question how to remove a location from the weather app
[06:51] <bqphone> 2nd quesion i am failing to install pidgin and whatsapp, most guides are made for yowsup and now there is yowsup 2 << is there an easy way to get whatsapp or better wait till whatsapp make app for ubuntu phone?
[06:54] <DanChapman> bqphone: in "Edit locations" swipe the location to the right to delete it. And there is currently no app (that i know of) for whatsapp and I believe they don't like and will block users who use 3rdparty apps so it would be best to wait for whatsapp to make an app for ubuntu
[06:55] <bqphone> location thing works, thanks mate
[06:55] <DanChapman> np
[06:55] <bqphone> any other place where i can see latest apps made for ubuntu phone?
[06:55] <DanChapman> bqphone: uappexplorer.com/ is a good place you can sort by all different criteria
[06:55] <Sleep_Walker> I don't know WhatsApp, but there is some web client - this could be way to go for you
[06:58] <bqphone> cheers and have a good day both of you
[07:15] <knightwise> morning
[07:49] <guideX> does anyone know when I can get ubuntu phone in the us
[08:02] <knightwise> morning
[08:02] <knightwise> anyone tried the calendar app yet ?
[08:02] <dadexix86> good morning to all! bq device, r21 . I noticed a strange behaviour about the battery. It drains really quick in the beginning, going from 100% to around 80% in the first hour and then it drains more slowly. is it a known behaviour? if not, do you think that I should report a bug?
[08:02] <knightwise> ive installed it and marked both of my google caendars to sync but .... they dont sync
[08:03] <dadexix86> knightwise, I was using it daily, before the sync with google broke
[08:03] <knightwise> ah good to hear i'm not the only one
[08:04] <knightwise> i hope they fix it quickly
[08:04] <knightwise> is there also something like a native mail app that supports google mail ?
[08:04] <knightwise> or just the webapps
[08:04] <dadexix86> knightwise, it is bug #1442931
[08:04] <dadexix86> knightwise, for the mail app, I think that Dekko is the solution for you ;)
[08:04] <knightwise> ok , since i'm not a developer, all i can do is wait for the update :)
[08:05] <knightwise> dekke ?
[08:05] <knightwise> dekkO :) i'm gonna check that out , thanx dadexix86
[08:05] <dadexix86> knightwise, not really, you can mark the bug as affecting you
[08:05] <knightwise> ah dadexix86 that is an idea
[08:06] <knightwise> i never thought the "me too" posts were helpfull
[08:07] <knightwise> there :)
[08:07] <dadexix86> well, it helps raising the "heat" of the bug... (4 pts per user)
[08:07] <knightwise> I didn't know that actually. I always thought filing bugs was more for the devs.. i'm just a plain user :)
[08:09] <Sleep_Walker> what is the reason user are discouraged to install native packages through apt?
[08:09] <dadexix86> knightwise, there is no "plain user", we are all part of the same community ;) and if you can help in any way, then your help surely it is appreciated even if it is just a click ;)
[08:09] <knightwise> thats true.
[08:09] <knightwise> browsing forums I hated the "me too" posts but when it comes to a bugfix the actually have value
[08:10] <Sleep_Walker> well, clever forums separate weight into less disturbing contributions :b
[08:11] <knightwise> True.
[08:11] <knightwise> ok , so I have my phone, text, messaging (telegram) and mail working
[08:12] <dadexix86> knightwise, good! :D
[08:12] <knightwise> contacts are ok too. so all I need is a working calendar sync and the phone is good to go for daily use :)
[08:12] <knightwise> whatever i don't have i can bridge with the webapps so far
[08:12] <knightwise> but when the calendar issue gets fixed the "native" apps can start to carry my daily chores
[08:15] <knightwise> I love to experiment with it .. but I also run a company so .. stuff has to work you knw...
[08:24] <dadexix86> I ask again, maybe some of the new connected guys know the answer: I noticed a strange behaviour about the battery. It drains really quick in the beginning, going from 100% to around 80% in the first hour and then it drains more slowly. is it a known behaviour? if not, do you think that I should report a bug?
[08:35] <Giordano> salve, posso essporre il mio problema, ho smartphone acquarius 4.5 ubuntu ontouh vorrei sincronizarlo con nautilus, come devo fare? grazie
[08:37] <Giordano> hi, I can essporre my problem , I would like smartphones acquarius 4.5 ubuntu ontouh sincronizarlo with nautilus , how should I do ? thanks
[08:37] <Sleep_Walker> dadexix86: reporting bug won't hurt - but 1] this depends on your device and its drivers 2] you may have HW issue and 3] if your battery is not clever, fix may be just some better function for reporting percent value of capacity (but it really depends on 1] and 2])
[08:39] <Sleep_Walker> but maybe some developers or at least residents of this channel can give you better answer
[08:40] <Dragonkeeper> Sleep_Walker: battery can also decell so also depends on the age of the device
[08:40] <Sleep_Walker> exactly
[08:41] <Giordano> hi, I can essporre my problem , I would like smartphones acquarius 4.5 ubuntu ontouh sincronizarlo with nautilus , how should I do ? thanks
[08:45] <bqphone> hello there, i have installed dekko and gmail work greay, i have tried to add my hotmail to outlook.com option and its not accepting it, is that a bug or it doesnt accept hotmail?
[08:47] <DanChapman> bqphone: does hotmail use host address imap-mail.outlook.com?
[08:47] <bqphone> no idea to be honest
[08:47] <DanChapman> You could try going through the "Other account" option that will run our autodiscovery which should fetch the correct info
[08:48] <DanChapman> If it can't be found you will need to enter it manually
[08:48] <bqphone> i have tried but it gives same result
[08:48] <bqphone> how to add it manually?
[08:49] <bqphone> i normaly open my hotmail using outlook.com on my desktop
[08:52] <DanChapman> The "Other account" option if it can't find the correct settings it should expand to allow you to add the required values. Do you just see the red X next to username & password
[08:54] <bqphone> yea only x near username and pass nothing else
[08:55] <DanChapman> and does it not expand to allow you to input the values manually?
[08:56] <mokmeister> Would anyone here know if it is possible to put ubuntu touch onto a nabi 2 tablet?
[08:56] <bqphone> nop it doesnt expend
[08:56] <DanChapman> Going through the "Outlook" option will not expand as they have preset values
[08:57] <bqphone> also other doesn't expand
[08:57] <DanChapman> bqphone: hmm that sounds like a bug. Try putting a random character in each field and hit save. That should force it to expand
[08:58] <bqphone> not working
[08:58] * Dragonkeeper stares at DanChapman, waiting for pop3 support. xD
[08:58] <DanChapman> Dragonkeeper: patches welcome :-p
[08:59] <bqphone> how to report it as a bug?
[08:59] <Dragonkeeper> :)
[09:02] <DanChapman> bqphone: what account type option is that using? "Other account"?? It can't not expand, did you try scrolling up after hitting save?
[09:03] <DanChapman> bqphone: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko/+filebug
[09:05] * DanChapman can't wait for all accounts to be handled in online accounts.
[09:05] * Dragonkeeper can
[09:06] <bqphone> i did restart the telephone, now i got other options so i added imap.mail.outlook.com, i keep port 143?
[09:07] <bqphone> i can only see half port field so the number there is no clear
[09:08] <Dragonkeeper> iirc 143 is non encrypted port for imap so id use 993
[09:08] <DanChapman> bqphone: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows/outlook/send-receive-from-app# should be the settings
[09:10] <bqphone> did add imap and 993 and encryption and still not working, i dont see field for outgoing server and port though
[09:11] <DanChapman> Keep scrolling up to get the outgoing server and port, it's all on one page
[09:12] <dadexix86> Giordano, if you want localized support it is better to go to a localized channel - se vuoi supporto in italiano vieni su #ubuntu-it
[09:13] <DanChapman> bqphone: also do you have 2 step verification setup on your hotmail account?
[09:14] <DanChapman> if so you may need to get an app specific password from https://account.live.com/Proofs/AppPassword
[09:14] <dadexix86> Dragonkeeper, the device is the bq, so pretty recent ;) Sleep_Walker do you know hot to investigate whether it is an hardware problem? I guess it is actually just the 3rd case of your answer (not clever scaling of the capacity)
[09:15] <Dragonkeeper> dadexix86: ah ok ive not noticed that bug
[09:16] <ogra_> dadexix86, are you on the latest image already ? (r21 ?)
[09:17] <dadexix86> Dragonkeeper, to me it happens only when on wifi. Charge it to 100% with wi-fi on, then remove the plug then in less than one hour your battery goes down and the "stabilizes" around 80% for some time. The graph looks like a descending parabola
[09:17] <Sleep_Walker> dadexix86: I have the device since yesterday, but it seems to be quite clever HW
[09:17] <dadexix86> ogra_, yes I am, rebooted also a couple of times after the update reboot.
[09:18] <Sleep_Walker> dadexix86: how many times have you fully charged the device?
[09:18] <ogra_> try checki0ng with top inteh terminal if there is some runaway process that eats your power
[09:18] <bqphone> thx DanChapman the link for apppassword fixed the problem
[09:20] <dadexix86> ogra_, nothing like that now (but I am already at around 80%, should I charge it and try?)
[09:20] <Dragonkeeper> dadexix86: mines almost charged, been charging with wifi on this morning , i got work a bit later so if i notice it ill buzz u let u know i am on r56 though
[09:21] <bqphone> i get now socket problem for imap-mail.outlook.com:993 the remote host closed the connection
[09:22] <bqphone> does gmail use 993 also?
[09:22] <Sleep_Walker> "Telegram mesages are heavily encrypted and can self-destruct" :D
[09:23] <DanChapman> bqphone: yeah blame m$ for that one they happily close the connection every 60 seconds. I have a work around in trunk, so it will be in the next update
[09:23] <bqphone> thats fine Dan the app looks great for gmail and for sure i can wait for the update :)
[09:24] <bqphone> last question but about something else, when i slide from right to left i see all the apps/webapps i opened. My question is how to close an open app/webapp ?
[09:25] <dadexix86> bqphone, swipe up/down, it is similar to android, but there you have to swipe right/left
[09:34] <ricsipontaz> Hi! Somebody can tell me where can I translate the Today scope?
[09:36] <popey> ricsipontaz: http://launchapd.net/today-scope file a bug that it's not translatable maybe?
[09:38] <ricsipontaz> popey: It is translated (to hungarian), but not complete.And If am right, It didn't translated by the community.
[09:38] <popey> hmm
[09:39] <ricsipontaz> NearBy scope too.
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> ricsipontaz: wich device are you on mate?
[09:40] <ricsipontaz> lotuspsychje: the bq
[09:41] <popey> ricsipontaz: I would file a bug though, that it's not community translatable
[09:41] <ricsipontaz> popey: Okay I'll do it. Thanks
[09:41] <popey> thank you
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> maybe the #ubuntu-hr community could also help popey ?
[09:42] <popey> sure
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> maybe someone owns a phone there
[09:42] <popey> once it's enabled for translations
[09:42] <popey> we have some hungarian people working for us too
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> nice
[09:42] <Dragonkeeper> just out of curiosity , where is the changelog for bq phone ubuntu updates ?
[09:43] <tnozyrox> hi, news about video calling with ubuntu-phone?
[09:43] <popey> https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg12158.html links to some changed Dragonkeeper
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> tnozyrox: there is telegram, they might do video calls in the future, bit not now
[09:44] <Dragonkeeper> ty
[09:44] <ricsipontaz> popey: I translating Ubuntu and the phone too to hungarian, so it's not a problem. But I can't translate it, because it translated by someon else, and community can't access this translations to help with it.
[09:45] <dadexix86> ogra_, I guess that there is indeed some problem with the battery. upower says that energy, energy-full, energy-full-desing, energy-rate are all 0W. but then shows percentage: 74%
[09:45] <ogra_> thats fine ... it does that on all devices
[09:45] <tnozyrox> video calling and sirius are very important ...no Moda ... and made in Ubuntu :)
[09:45] <ricsipontaz> popey: I filled a bug.
[09:46] <ogra_> (it tries to read these values from desktop interfaces that dont exist)
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> tnozyrox: im sure someone will bring out an app someday
[09:46] <dadexix86> ogra_, ok I didn't know :)
[09:46] <Dragonkeeper> video calling could be done over wifi if someone ported tox and its qml client ... :D
[09:47] <ogra_> or just a simple webrtc server
[09:47] <ogra_> but for that the browser needs to get the webrtc support finished
[09:47] <popey> thanks ricsipontaz
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> did firefox have plans to integrate video calling in browser?
[09:48] <ogra_> they already have it
[09:48] * Dragonkeeper should have been at work 75 mins ago , so he thinks he should get ready before his boss checks to see where he is
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> if we all send a mail to telegram crew, they might do some video calling :p
[09:51] <popey> they're well aware
[09:51] <popey> also
[09:51] <popey> it's a community app - anyone can contribute
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> oh, so its waiting until someone makes it hapen then
[09:53] <ogra_> send patches ;)
[10:00] <Dragonkeeper> o/
[10:02] <tnozyrox> thanks and good day to all :D
[10:37] <froyo> Hi
[10:37] <froyo> Is there anyone?
[10:41] <froyo> Hello :(
[10:41] <popey> !ask
[10:41] <froyo> !ask
[10:42] <popey> froyo: what's your question?
[10:44] <Trigo> hi
[10:45] <Trigo> hello :(, how can I develop apps for ubuntu touch?
[10:45] <Trigo> !patience
[10:48] <ahayzen> Trigo, i would start by reading this https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/ and for app development #ubuntu-app-devel is a good channel to ask in
[10:49] <Trigo> errm...without the physical device?
[10:52] <ahayzen> Trigo, you can use an emulator or run the apps in a window on the desktop
[10:52] <ahayzen> Trigo, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/sdk/tutorials/using-the-ubuntu-emulator/
[10:53] <Trigo> I tried that, but can I ran the apps without the emulator? The emulator is so big.
[10:53] <ahayzen> yeah most of them will run fine on the desktop
[10:53] <ahayzen> just things like confinement aren't currently enforced
[10:54] <bqphone> using facebook app, it seems i cant watch videos there, is there a way to do so?
[10:55] <Trigo> So ahayzen, I don't need to set up emulator to run apps in the SDK? If yes, that would be great!
[10:55] <ahayzen> Trigo, yeah you can just run them from the SDK
[10:57] <Trigo> and...about other thing...you can package your app with GUI's right?
[10:57] <Trigo> because I'm not good with at packaging.
[10:58] <ahayzen> yeah you can
[10:58] <ahayzen> Trigo, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/sdk/tutorials/running-apps-from-the-sdk/ go to the bottom the section "What are the benefits/caveats of each device type?"
[10:58] <ahayzen> Trigo, this one for packaging https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/publish/packaging-click-apps/
[11:00] <Trigo> Thanks for the links. :D
[11:00] <ahayzen> no problem
[11:01] <Trigo> Aha, also...is 32 bit computer can be a minimum development device?
[11:01] <Trigo> I tried Android SDK last time, but it giving me warning about 32 bit (need to !force run)
[11:02] <ahayzen> erm i assume it'll be ok i've used the SDK on a 32bit VM before IIRC
[11:05] <Trigo> I hope so
[11:29] <Sleep_Walker> are there any other bindings than for QML and HTML5?
[11:30] <Sleep_Walker> C++, python, ...
[11:31] <vitimiti> Qt(C++), for example?
[11:31] <vitimiti> And some JS, too
[14:45] <saurabhdare> I see error parsing line -- "import Ubuntu.Components 1.1
[14:46] <saurabhdare> I selected QML app with qmake.
[15:07] <bqphone> how can i change the weather channel displaying temp from fehrenhite to celcius
[15:39] <popey> bqphone: in the weather app?
[16:11] <SturmFlut> Whoever improved battery life on the bq so much, she/he/they deserve(s) some kind of prize.
[16:18] <bqphone> yes popey, i went to the website and saved their the weather in C, but on the phone i get only with F
[16:18] <popey> there's a settings option in the app
[16:18] <popey> SturmFlut: yeah, it's impressive isn't it
[16:18] <popey> but then that's what happens when you have a strict policy on background apps :)
[16:20] <bqphone> in settings i see only location data
[16:21] <SturmFlut> jamesh__: Ping (well, I don't really think you would be here on a sunny saturday, but popey seems to never sleep so you guys from the UK might be very clever bots)
[16:23] <SturmFlut> popey: I would say "incredible". And there are *vast* differences in battery life between Android devices with similar hardware, so it might not just be related to background processes.
[16:27] <popey> bqphone: let me get a screenshot
[16:28] <popey> bqphone: this is settings inside the weather app itself
[16:28] <popey> bqphone: http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-04-18-172845.png
[16:29] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-04-18-172858.png
[16:31] <bqphone> well this one works perfect, but in the my weather channel which you see when you open your mobile, i see temp in F and its linked to a website m.weather.com
[16:32] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-04-18-173234.png
[16:32] <popey> that one bqphone ?
[16:32] <popey> i think that's linked to your locale.
[16:33] <FrameFever> I thought there will be a high end hardware ubuntu smartphone from a chinese company, when will it come?
[16:33] <popey> soon
[16:34] <FrameFever> it thought it should be released in barcelona
[16:34] <bqphone> yes popey
[16:34] <bqphone> how to change it ?
[16:34] <popey> i don't know.
[16:35] <bqphone> how did u get yours in C ?
[16:35] <popey> locale based I _think_
[16:35] <DanChapman> Is it not configurable in the weather scope settings? I presume that's where it's getting pulled from
[16:35] <popey> no
[16:35] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-04-18-173543.png
[16:35] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-04-18-173552.png
[16:36] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-04-18-173558.png
[16:36] <FrameFever> I mostly interested in the desktop feature of the ubuntu phone, when will this be available?
[16:36] <popey> we don't have an ETA for that
[16:36] <bqphone> popey how do u make those printscreens?
[16:36] <popey> i have a script
[16:37] <FrameFever> ETA?
[16:37] <bqphone> can i have the name if its not private?
[16:37] <popey> Estimated Time of Arrival
[16:37] <DanChapman> popey: ohright i see. It should be configurable from there imo and not based on locale.
[16:37] <popey> ya
[16:37] <popey> I agree
[16:38] <bqphone> well if u go to m.weather.com you can save in settings there C in place of F, but it keeps fetching them as F
[16:38] <popey> bqphone: you can also just press vol+ and vol-
[16:42] <bqphone> anyone know if there is a way to watch videos shared on facebook? the webapp doesnt allow you to do so
[16:54] <sjakie902> when i connect my phone(bq) with the usb cable to my laptop(kubuntu) i cant see my phone or mount it, any suggestions?
[16:54] <bqphone> just made a printscreen, thx popey now how to delete it?
[17:02] <dadexix86> sjakie902, kubuntu version?
[17:03] <sjakie902> 14.04
[17:04] <popey> sjakie902: is the phone unlocked?
[17:05] <sjakie902> yes it is unlocked
[17:06] <popey> hmm, does KDE support MTP browsing?
[17:07] <Dragonkeeper> a little bit off topic , but im having trouble with ubuntu 14.10 desktop and setting up nvidia cuda
[17:07] <popey> very offtopic - that's for #ubuntu
[17:07] <Dragonkeeper> +!
[17:07] <Dragonkeeper> alright :)
[17:11] <sjakie902> i will check the mtp browsing in kubuntu, cant seem to connect my androidphone as wel
[17:11] <sjakie902> thnx!
[17:16] <bqphone> really how to delete a picture or should i delete it using terminal?
[17:18] <popey> gallery, long press on a picture, choose delete from menu in top right
[17:19] <bqphone> ah gallery
[17:19] <SturmFlut> bqphone: or you can install the "File Manager" app, https://uappexplorer.com/app/com.ubuntu.filemanager , seems like it doesn't work with SD cards (yet) but the rest should work
[17:19] <bqphone> thx
[17:20] <popey> it does work with sd cards
[17:20] <popey> you have to "unlock" it once in the app
[17:23] <brunch875> Hello!
[17:35] <bqphone> thx SturmFlut the filemanager is great
[17:36] <bqphone> now is there an uninstaller program to get rid of the apps i dont need or use which are auto installed
[17:38] <SturmFlut> bqphone: You can long press on them ini the "Application" scope
[17:43] <bqphone> there are some other stuff i cant see in Application scopre for example bbc sports
[17:43] <bqphone> how can i remove that?
[17:44] <puppylove> hey guys. i'm looking to just install the touch tailored interface on a base chroot installation of ubuntu. which packages should i install?
[17:45] <puppylove> i have a lenovo s8 android tablet, so i woul djust be running ubuntu in chroot
[17:47] <SturmFlut> puppylove: The unity8 package should pull in all necessary packages, but I highly doubt it will run from a chroot on plain Android
[17:47] <puppylove> eh, will find out soon enoughi suppose. i got kde working on it earlier, wiped it though and trying something else
[17:48] <puppylove> thx
[17:54] <SturmFlut> puppylove: Do you have an X server running?
[17:54] <puppylove> not atm, i'm doing a reinstall of a small ubuntu image using the linuxdeploy app
[17:55] <puppylove> err, its installing an x server instance, but im not sure which one
[17:55] <puppylove> before i was controlling the OS via vnc
[17:55] <puppylove> however there is an app out there that functions as an x server i may try this time
[17:55] <puppylove> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=x.org.server
[17:55] <puppylove> that
[18:03] <SturmFlut> puppylove: Interesting!
[18:03] <puppylove> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.meefik.linuxdeploy
[18:04] <puppylove> that is what i used to install
[18:04] <puppylove> this probably helps. my tablet is an x86 based
[18:04] <puppylove> i haven't gotten x working yet, but could do ssh and vnc just fine
[18:05] <puppylove> just needed a small touch friendly install to run a few apps on the tablet
[18:06] <puppylove> gns3, wireshark, nmap, ham radio stuff
[18:06] <puppylove> sdr
[18:08] <puppylove> everything else i want to use this tablet for i can do within android itself
[18:08] <puppylove> actually come to think of it
[18:08] <puppylove> since i am running one of the newer atoms
[18:08] <puppylove> i wonder if linux steam and some low end linux steam games will work in it...
[18:17] <SturmFlut> puppylove: I tried to do a mostly unmodified installation of Ubuntu 15.04 on a Windows 8.1 tablet, including Unity8, but it was never stable because of the internal MMC flash
[18:18] <puppylove> dual boot, or idd you completely over write it?> which tablet?
[18:18] <SturmFlut> puppylove: If those geniuses at Google hadn't decided that an Android device can't be like a normal PC you could just install regular Ubuntu over Android, or have dual-boot
[18:19] <SturmFlut> puppylove: I removed the Windows installation, it's a Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet 8
[18:19] <puppylove> ah, i thought that was more or less a discretion of the device maker, not google itself
[18:19] <SturmFlut> puppylove: http://sturmflut.github.io/linux/ubuntu/2015/02/04/installing-ubuntu-on-baytrail-tablets-version-2/
[18:20] <SturmFlut> puppylove: No, Google defines the startup environment for Android. They could've just specified UEFI and ACPI back then, like Microsoft does with Windows. There was no technical reason to lock everybody else out
[18:21] <puppylove> lame
[18:23] <puppylove> that makes me a sad panda
[18:23] <SturmFlut> puppylove: In the end Android has now produced more locked-down devices than Windows was installed on in the last ten years, so I myself at least will never understand why some people still think of Google as an open and non-evil company
[18:24] <puppylove> perhaps less evil is a better descriptor
[18:25] <SturmFlut> puppylove: No. You can just deactivate Secure Boot on every current Windows tablet/PC/Desktop and install an unmodified x86 Linux, but you can't put an unmodified Linux distribution on any Android/ChromeOS device.
[18:25] <puppylove> oh, none of the windows tablets require a firmware flashing?
[18:25] <puppylove> hm
[18:26] <SturmFlut> puppylove: the Windows RT devices are ARM-based, they are locked down, but those aren't on sale anymore. All current devices are just Intel x86 chips with UEFI and ACPI. Go to the UEFI menu, turn off Secure Boot, plug in an USB stick and boot from it.
[18:27] <puppylove> windows rt was so obviously a boneheaded move
[18:27] <puppylove> create brand confusion, that's all
[18:28] <SturmFlut> puppylove: The kernel will boot, all CPU cores will come up, you will even get accelerated video. WiFi and Audio may be flaky, depending on the actual chipsets, and my device hat MMC flash problems, but the overall experience is okay.
[18:30] <SturmFlut> I wonder why nobody came up with a Monopoly lawsuit against Google and Android device manufacturers. A phone/tablet is just a PC. We cry if our PCs are locked down, why do we allow phones/tablets to be locked down?
[18:31] <puppylove> someone has to be motivated to do it. usually that is by money
[18:31] <puppylove> perhaps that is what microsoft is reaching for by embracing cyanogenmod
[18:32] <puppylove> sort of like how they prop up the rotted corpse of SCO to troll linux companies
[18:33] <puppylove> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:34] <puppylove> arrrrrgh
[18:35] <SturmFlut> Well, I'll go back to my bug reports before I get into rage mode and start boring everyone
[18:35] <puppylove> http://pastebin.com/AqZWqGiU
[19:43] <t-ask> HI I have an BQ Aquaris 4.5 (Andriod) and I wanted to install Utouch on it by following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install I come up to "Unlock the Android device". On command "fastboot oem unlock" the terminal just shows "..." and nothing happens on the device. Any idea?
[19:57] <tasty-sandwich> Anyone got a minute to talk? I've got a design decision to make and I need to make it soon.
[19:59] <tasty-sandwich> We have a network of payment kiosks that use google nexus 7's as essentially a touch screen interface to a raspberry pi. People keep exiting the app and otherwise tampering with the system despite the fact we've spent thousands on "kiosk mode" software to lock that crap out.
[19:59] <tasty-sandwich> We are considering a move to ubuntu touch. Maybe even ditching the raspberry pi all together.
[20:00] <tasty-sandwich> But I'm not sure how I would control the bill acceptor. Is there a way to get the USB port from micro usb to like a regular USB hub?
[20:01] <tasty-sandwich> Also is there a "lock down" mode available so that the ubuntu touch only loads & runs our app? I just don't want the thing to boot up and present the user with email, internet etc. We just need a single full screen app.
[20:02] <labsin> tasty-sandwich, You could buy a OTG adapter. That way you can attach regular usb devices
[20:02] <labsin> But not all drivers are build in the kernel. A mouse or keyboard work. Some wifi adapters too
[20:03] <tasty-sandwich> Thanks I think the OTG adapter is exactly what I am looking for. Is there a way to know if it will work with ubuntu touch?
[20:03] <Inglebard> Hi everybody, someone know how translate QML app with "i18n.tr" ?
[20:03] <tasty-sandwich> Well the billacceptor is driverless, there is a javasdk that opens up ttys0 and bitbangs it.
[20:04] <labsin> Inglebard, Yes. What do you need to know?
[20:04] <labsin> tasty-sandwich, That should work on Android I think
[20:04] <labsin> Apps on Ubuntu touch aren't allowed that much
[20:05] <labsin> But you could launch an app without these restrictions too
[20:05] <Inglebard> labsin, I put i18n.tr to translate my text (label,...) and I create my po files but my app is always in english. Do you have an idea what I do wrong ?
[20:05] <labsin> Inglebard, How do you make your po files?
[20:06] <Inglebard> labsin, I use the .pot file in "po" folder to generate my po file with poedit program.
[20:08] <labsin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10846824/
[20:08] <labsin> I use that script to generate mo files baste on the po files
[20:08] <labsin> I put it in the po folder
[20:10] <labsin> then I do ./generate_mo.sh (that's how I named the script) in the po folder. It generates locale/$LANG/LC_MESSAGES/$DOMAIN.mo files needed to load the translations
[20:10] <labsin> the locale folder should be in the root of your click package
[20:12] <labsin> Anybody tried the Falling Blocks game? I updated it today.
[20:12] <t-ask> if I enter "fastboot oem unlock" nothing happens except I see "..." in the terminal. Am I missing something?
[20:13] <t-ask> device is connected. I tested with "fastboot devices" ...
[20:13] <labsin> t-ask, are you in fastboot mode?
[20:13] <tasty-sandwich> Is there something other than an app? I thought I saw some sort of "experience" thing, scene or scope or something like that. Would that do it?
[20:14] <t-ask> yes, it's written FASTBOOT mode ...
[20:15] <t-ask> labsin: I wonder why my Aquaris 4.5 doesn't popup the unlock text.
[20:15] <t-ask> labsin: I tried with sudo, too. no success
[20:16] <t-ask> I don't need to insert a SIM first?
[20:16] <t-ask> SD card is wiped and inserted, too.
[20:17] <labsin> tasty-sandwich, What you ask for is to remove a lot from the image and only add an app. Than would certainly be possible, but the shell is tied up to the core. I don't know what would need to be changed. Maybe ask on the mailing list
[20:17] <labsin> t-ask, oem unlock is to unlock the bootloader to be able to flash a new kernel that is not signed by the manufacturer
[20:18] <Inglebard> labsin : I try your script, it's still in english...
[20:19] <tasty-sandwich> Hmmm, maybe have the app launch at boot (got to be a way to do that right?) Then have it catch any signals so it won't die or exit.
[20:19] <t-ask> labsin: do you think it's already unlokced? I tried "adb setprop ..." It didn't change the prop ... therefore, I guess it's locked
[20:20] <tasty-sandwich> OTOH, there's this...
[20:20] <tasty-sandwich> http://www.andreas-schrade.de/2015/02/16/android-tutorial-how-to-create-a-kiosk-mode-in-android/
[20:20] <labsin> tasty-sandwich, The shell is just like an app. Also written in qml with an cpp backend. So yes
[20:21] <tasty-sandwich> Guess I'll give that a shot first. Best not to toss the baby out with the bathwater, even if the baby has been acting bad ;)
[20:22] <tasty-sandwich> Thanks for the advice guys!
[20:22] <labsin> No prob
[20:24] <labsin> t-ask, are you in fastboot mode now?
[20:25] <labsin> Is there text on the screen? I think it should say something as "Device is UNLOCKED" (or LOCKED
[20:25] <labsin> Inglebard, Did you change the DOMAIN in the script to your apps domain name?
[20:26] <Inglebard> yeap
[20:26] <t-ask> My bootloader doesn't show the green android robot only in recovery mode. It's just written "FASTBOOT mode" at the bottom.
[20:27] <t-ask> labsin: oh, I missed your msg, sorry. Not now. Should I chnage to fastboot mode now?
[20:27] <labsin> t-ask, nono
[20:28] <labsin> t-ask, my android devices shows a line that says unlocked at the screen when in fastboot mode
[20:29] <SturmFlut> t-ask: Well, I see two problems. First, AFAIK the Aquaris E4.5 is already unlocked, so no "fastboot oem unlock" needed. And second, the internal flash contains a partition layout, which is different between Android and Ubuntu.
[20:29] <Inglebard> labsin : can I send you a link to the repository to check what's happen, if you have time ? ( It's a really simple project )
[20:29] <labsin> ok
[20:30] <t-ask> labsin: my Fastboot just shows an ASCII line: "=> FASTBOOT mode..." nothing more.
[20:31] <Inglebard> labsin : https://github.com/Inglebard/Fixel
[20:31] <labsin> t-ask, Did you buy and Ubuntu edition? (see SturmFlut's post)
[20:31] <SturmFlut> t-ask: bq offers a tool to set and format partitions, see http://www.bq.com/gb/products/aquaris-e4-5.html at the bottom, "Firmware Hard reset Version 1.5.0" and "Drivers+utilities", but AFAICS they haven't uploaded the necessary files for the Ubuntu partition layout, just those for Android.
[20:32] <t-ask> labsin: no it's the Android edition.
[20:32] <SturmFlut> labsin: I bought both, the Android version back in February for my brother and the Ubuntu version for me. They are different at the core, and bq would have to release the necessary tools and files to change the partition layout.
[20:33] <SturmFlut> labsin, t-ask: Which they haven't.
[20:33] <SturmFlut> I think one *could* come up with the necessary configuration file if one took the information from the Ubuntu version, but I never tried.
[20:34] <labsin> Inglebard, Are you trying the translations on the device with installing a click package or on the desktop?
[20:34] <Inglebard> on the device
[20:35] <t-ask> SturmFlut: with "core" you mean partitions or hardware?!
[20:36] <labsin> and there is a locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES/fixel.inglebard.mo file in the click package?
[20:36] <t-ask> I just wonder why I can't even root the Android one
[20:36] <labsin> Inglebard, ore something else the nl
[20:36] <t-ask> SturmFlut: Did you root the Android phone somehow? And if, how?
[20:37] <labsin> I did have troubles with this before and had to "hack" around it. I though it was fixed
[20:37] <Inglebard> labsin : I am checking
[20:38] <SturmFlut> t-ask: Both. The partition layout is different, and the hardware is slightly different as well. The Ubuntu device seems to currently have seven partitions, while the Android version has 19. The Ubuntu version has no visible touch buttons below the display (they are there, but invisible), the Android version has touch buttons.
[20:39] <SturmFlut> t-ask: bq distributes a tool by the chipset manufacturer which can set and create flash partitions. The configuration file for the Android version of the E4.5 e.g. is http://paste.ubuntu.com/10847036/
[20:40] <SturmFlut> t-ask: While the active configuration on the Ubuntu version is http://paste.ubuntu.com/10847042/ , clearly different
[20:40] <labsin> Inglebard, I think I used the wrong gettext domain. You could do print(i18n.domain) in the app to check
[20:40] <labsin> I think it needs to be just fixel maybe
[20:41] <t-ask> SturmFlut: doesn't the flash tool repartition the internal flsh?
[20:41] <t-ask> SturmFlut: I mean, I wonder that I can't root it in the first place
[20:42] <labsin> I know I had to do: - i18n.domain = "fallingblocks" i18n.bindtextdomain(i18n.domain,"locale") in Component.onCompleted() somewhere to make it work
[20:42] <t-ask> SturmFlut: Did you root the Android one?
[20:42] <SturmFlut> t-ask: Yes, it does, but bq never released the necessary "scatter file" (the configuration file for the flash tool) for the Ubuntu version. So you can't currently convert the Android version to the Ubuntu version.
[20:42] <labsin> Inglebard, But that should no lonker be needed as the bugreport I made was marked soved (never tested tho)
[20:43] <labsin> But I need to go.
[20:43] <labsin> So by
[20:43] <t-ask> SturmFlut: ok, then I have an RMA case now .)
[20:43] <Inglebard> Ok thanks
[20:43] <SturmFlut> t-ask: You don't need to unlock bq phones, they are all unlocked already. And you don't need to root them if you're going to replace Android anyways.
[20:43] <t-ask> SturmFlut: I just send it back and buy the Ubuntu version then.
[20:44] <SturmFlut> t-ask: You can restore Android if you've already broken the installation, all the tools and files are on their website.
[20:44] <t-ask> SturmFlut: Well, I couldn't change the device_id, so I thought mine is not rooted
[20:45] <t-ask> SturmFlut: no nothing is broken. I couldn't flash the device... probably because of different device_id
[20:45] <SturmFlut> t-ask: Hm, I don't know about device_id. All I know is that bq markets all their devices with the term "unlocked"
[20:45] <SturmFlut> t-ask: If your intention was to get an Ubuntu phone, then open an RMA case and send it back. Should be the fastest way.
[20:47] <t-ask> SturmFlut: yes, I just send it back. It's said that they sell the ubuntu version at a higher price.
[20:48] <t-ask> /s/said/sad
[20:48] <fran2> hey guys hello! I just messed up my ubuntu phone i guess; after system upgrade it is constantly rebooting itself; i cant access my phone anymore; what should i do
[20:49] <SturmFlut> fran2: Do you remember which version you upgraded to? r20? r21?
[20:49] <fran2> SturmFlut: I got an Aquarius E4.5 and i guess i upgraded to the recommended version ( was on system manager _ update menu)
[20:50] <nik90> fran2: did you do anything out the ordinary to the E4.5? Like using apt-get or something?
[20:50] <SturmFlut> fran2: Okay, I have not run into this problem myself, but there was a report on the mailing list about this happening sometimes. See https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg11819.html
[20:50] <fran2> nik90: Yes I installed some python packages for installing whatsapp from terminal :/
[20:51] <SturmFlut> fran2: Okay, that might not have been the best idea. WhatsApp would have probably blocked you anyways.
[20:51] <bqphone> i had it also but after i did shutdown the phone and restarted then it worked fine
[20:51] <bqphone> was also trying to install whatsapp
[20:52] <fran2> but i think the continous reboot was due to ubuntu system upgrade since it happened just after that
[20:53] <fran2> is there an easy way to just install a fresh ubuntu to get rid of this loop
[20:53] <SturmFlut> fran2: Yes, there is. You should probably follow http://askubuntu.com/questions/602834/how-to-reset-bq-ubuntu-phone-when-gui-is-inaccessible
[20:54] <SturmFlut> It will erase all your data though
[20:54] <fran2> I do not have any data at all, my phone is totally new :/
[20:55] <fran2> The problem is i cant even go into recovery mode; it also gets stuck
[20:58] <SturmFlut> fran2: Wait a moment, I'll try it on my device
[21:00] <sysop2> hi! I just did apt-get install ubuntu-touch on my convertible tablet, when it finishes what do I do next?
[21:00] <sysop2> ubuntu 14.10
[21:01] <sysop2> if you guys know of a howto please enlighten me. I have googled around but nothing about running it on x86 tablet/laptops.
[21:02] <SturmFlut> sysop2: I think you restart the device, and in the login manager you select "Ubuntu Touch" or something
[21:02] <SturmFlut> sysop2: Or "Unity 8"
[21:02] <sysop2> sweet I was hoping it was that easy!
[21:02] <t-ask> Does anyone know how many days it takes to get the Aquaris Ubuntu Ed. when ordering today?
[21:03] <sysop2> cant wait to try it out, I couldnt get kde active to run at all on it. :(
[21:04] <fran2> :/
[21:04] <SturmFlut> t-ask: They say it takes a couple of days. But I don't know, I ordered during the second flash sale and bq Germany screwed up the order a little, so it took *very* long.
[21:04] <t-ask> SturmFlut: then I hope they don't screw it up for me .)
[21:05] <SturmFlut> t-ask: As long as the billing and shipping address are the same, it shouldn't be a problem
[21:05] <SturmFlut> t-ask: That's were it got problematic
[21:06] <t-ask> SturmFlut: I had to wait for the one I have now almost one week... cause of the DHL ppl on strike .)
[21:07] <SturmFlut> fran2: Interesting, I can't get into recovery mode too. I see the menu with the three options, I select "recovery mode", but then the Ubuntu circle appears and never goes away.
[21:07] <fran2> SturmFlut: same!
[21:07] <SturmFlut> fran2: Ah! You have to press "Power Up"!
[21:08] <fran2> SturmFlut: What do you mean? After ubuntu circle?
[21:08] <SturmFlut> fran2: Jep!
[21:08] <sysop2> what no "computer on"
[21:08] <SturmFlut> fran2: Select "Recovery mode", press "Power down" to select it, wait until the Ubuntu circle appears, then press "Power up"
[21:09] <SturmFlut> fran2: At least that's how it works on my device here
[21:09] <SturmFlut> fran2: If I do it like this, I see the "Wipe data/factory reset" option
[21:09] <SturmFlut> sysop2: Did it start Unity8?
[21:10] <fran2> SturmFlut: It works!
[21:10] <SturmFlut> fran2: Now let's hope that this fixes the problem
[21:11] <SturmFlut> fran2: Otherwise you should be able to boot into recovery and execute "ubuntu-device-flash touch --bootstrap" on the desktop
[21:11] <SturmFlut> fran2: As long as "fastboot devices" shows the phone
[21:13] <fran2> SturmFlut: It is working I guess, thank you man
[21:13] <SturmFlut> fran2: no problem
[21:14] <fran2> SturmFlut: Do you know also if it is possible to install whatsapp?
[21:15] <SturmFlut> fran2: WhatsApp declines to support Ubuntu Touch. There are some alternative clients, but if you use them WhatsApp will block you. That's why we have Telegram.
[21:24] <SturmFlut> sysop2: Any luck?
[21:25] <fran2> SturmFlut: Thank you again, telegram seems well! I will convince my friends to use it
[21:25] <SturmFlut> fran2: Any modern Android phone can usually run more than one Messenger at the same time, so it shouldn't be a problem for them.
[21:26] <SturmFlut> fran2: And Telegram has secure, encrypted chats. Maybe your friends like that...
[22:20] <nik90> damn the battery life in OTA-3 is too good..finding it really hard to bring the battery percent lower than 20% even after a full day of moderate use
[22:33] <popey> \o/
[22:37] <brunch875> yeah, it's great. Normally I'd be all out of battery when back home
[22:37] <brunch875> let's hope we see more patches :))) long journey ahead
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[12:45] <elfy> if anyone with access to the tracker happens to notice this over the weekend - the upgrade tests for Vivid Final are pointing to 20150416 instead of 17.1
[14:19] <cjwatson> elfy: Upgrade tests are usually set to refer to a date rather than an image, since upgrading is about the state of the archive not the state of images.
[14:26] <elfy> cjwatson: ok cool - thanks
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"authors": [
"Rhonda",
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"programmer"
],
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[00:53] <programmer> Hello! Anyone familiar with packaging software to release it into the ubuntu system?
[00:58] <programmer> anyone here?
[07:02] <Rhonda> micahg, about that adding "ubuntu1" to the version string, that won't work for SRU to trusty and utopic given that both currently have the same version. Or can a SRU for them both be done with the same version? I don't think so?
[08:35] <maxb> Rhonda: "2.0-2 in two releases 2.0-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> and 2.0-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[08:35] <maxb> looks like the appropriate line from micahg's link
[08:57] <Rhonda> maxb: Ah, missed that line, my bad. :)
[08:57] * Rhonda . o O ( and now I realized that I versioned wrongly, should have been ubuntu0.1 … )
[08:58] <maxb> You went with ubuntu1. ? So long as there isn't an actual ubuntu1 in the next series, I don't think that would cause any actual issue.
[08:59] <maxb> Depends how picky people are feeling :-)
[08:59] <Rhonda> Right, but I'm pedantic. :)
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"bubbletea",
"chonps",
"guest55",
"ianorlin",
"penguin1263",
"position1"
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"license": "Public Domain",
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[09:49] <position1> Hi I installed docky in lubuntu and I want to make it transparent however it does not change. Do I need to install another programm with it?
[09:51] <position1> Something that configures docky?
[11:20] <position1> Hi anyone uses docky in lubuntu? I want to ask something
[13:46] <Glorfindel> I'm in the root recovery shell, and I need to mount a usb flash drive. What /dev/ device should it be?
[13:47] <Glorfindel> I have tried sdb, sda, and sdf1
[13:50] <Glorfindel> never mind, I did it a different way that didn't need a mount
[14:01] <guest55> I am trying to install a linux on an old 486 box. 512 memory, 20Gb HDD. Is lubuntu the right choice for this? Or something else?
[14:06] <guest55> hello!
[14:06] <guest55> Anybody home?
[14:14] <guest55> How to install on old hardware? And what?
[14:49] <position1> guest55
[14:49] <position1> hi
[14:50] <position1> if you choose an lts version of lubuntu maybe it works but I am not sure
[15:49] <ianorlin> guest55 lubuntu would work best of any of the ubuntu flavors
[18:38] <penguin1263> im using lubuntu as my server :p
[19:09] <chonps> I have a problem with a "always running" Firefox. Can someone help me?
[19:11] <penguin1263> http://i.imgur.com/XbZEFsK.png
[19:11] <penguin1263> cant you kill it in the resource monitor
[19:11] <chonps> I watched files like /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu-Netbook/autostart - /etc/xdg/openbox/autostart - /usr/lib/openbox/openbox-autostart - /usr/lib/openbox/openbox-xdg-autostart
[19:12] <chonps> Yes, I can, but it comes to life in a while
[19:12] <penguin1263> :/
[19:12] <penguin1263> killall firefox?
[19:12] <chonps> Resists a reboot and a .mozilla folder erase.
[19:13] <penguin1263> oh my god
[19:13] <penguin1263> tried askubuntu?
[19:14] <chonps> Well, I duckduckgo'ed a lot, but...
[19:16] <penguin1263> try askubuntu (it's supposed to help with all things ubuntu and lubuntu is a spin)
[19:17] <chonps> ok, thank you, i will
[23:06] <bubbletea> hi
[23:07] <bubbletea> I'm trying to bootcamp ubuntu or some linux onto my old 2006 mbp, should I be going with Lubuntu latest version or what? any advice?
[23:08] <bubbletea> http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook_pro_2.16_17.html
[23:08] <bubbletea> I'm a programming student so I just want to start getting experience with linux while having something to code on
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2015-04-18-#ubuntu-kernel
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[07:32] <HiGregS> I have
[07:34] <HiGregS> xps13 (new), looks like 15.04 has the updates and patched kernel for mic and sound. will the fixes likely be back ported to 14.04 or 14.10, or should I expect the next LTS (16?) to contain those and NOT 14?
[07:35] <HiGregS> I'm not totally familiar with terms like "upstream" and have been substantially away from Linux since 1.0 kernel days...
[07:35] <HiGregS> (first I think I recall is 0.98, can that be right??!!)
[20:39] <infinity> zequence: Oh, but it would still be nice for your current lowlatency update to not be crufty, expecially if it's going to be the last.
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.982723
| 2015-04-18T00:00:00
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2015-04-18-#ubuntu+1
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ubuntu-chat
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[01:29] <psusi> that's the thing... of course it is... When I moved to 14.10, it would actively crash. It doesn't crash anymore, but Chrome does crash; it sticks and lags when in use, which is why I no longer use Rhythmbox (which causes such lag as to softlock my workstation and require a power cycle)
[02:53] <Bluefoxicy> I filed a bug, and they told me my bios obviously needed updating. I did that (it wasn't easy! Somehow you have to boot DOS, without floppy drives; the original bios utility would fail if you used memdisk), and it's still broken; but Atlas shrugged, and nobody gives a shit if Intel HD2000 graphics don't work.
[02:53] <Bluefoxicy> I'm hoping the new 15.04 kernel actually works, because otherwise I'll still have a buggy, broken OS to deal with, and I'm sure filing a bug is useless.
[02:54] * Bluefoxicy vent.
[09:06] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:05] <MoonUnit`> lordievader: did that blokes audio get sorted out last night?
[10:29] <lordievader> He removed PA, lost interest after that.
[10:31] <elfy> people do that a lot ... I read something from 6 years ago that said PA was bad, so ...
[10:32] <elfy> I'm sure that people did have issues with it - must have been lucky here ;)
[10:32] <lordievader> PA can be annoying. People's reaction to just remove it is, in my opinion, way too blunt and not a whole lot of fun.
[10:33] <lordievader> PA was very annoying in the beginning. But lately I've began to enjoy it.
[10:34] <elfy> as I said - must have been lucky here, never had any problems with it
[10:41] <MoonUnit`> i remove it for my htpc but had no problem on the desktop.
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:59] <vitimiti> Fine
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: hello
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: add discuss to your favs mate :p
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: #ubuntu-discuss that is
[17:12] <MoPac> Hello. I've experienced a reversion sometime during the 15.04 development that has affected how signals from my laptop's hardware sensors are interpreted. Nobody has taken official interest in the bug report (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1438422), so I'm hoping that someone here might be able to point me to where to look for sensor / hardware switch config
[17:13] <MoPac> (so I might try to make a more detailed diagnosis myself)
[17:29] <penguin42> oh that's quite a funny bug
[17:32] * penguin42 added a question
[18:13] <MoPac> penguin42: That's a good point; I'll try booting with the other kernel
[18:14] <MoPac> ##kernel hadn't been interested in the question, so I had been thinking that maybe it wasn't that after all, but I should have tested
[18:26] <MoPac> penguin42: Tested 3.16.0-29 . Bug stayed the same. Posted info in Launchpad
[18:37] <penguin42> MoPac: Do you have an /etc/urfkill - and if so what is it's contents?
[18:38] <MoPac> hardware.conf profile urfkill.conf -- should I make pastes of them?
[18:39] <penguin42> MoPac: Well, I don't know much about urfkill, but is there anything in there that looks like it could be relevant to saying what buttons it does etc?
[18:45] <MoPac> penguin42: not necessarily to my untrained eye. Here's everything in that folder http://paste.ubuntu.com/10846302/ . It has general information about key control, but it's hard for me to tell (a) whether I need to set something different or (b) why, even given that I don't have a hardware switch and it's looking for one, it would mistake the accelerometer
[18:51] <MoPac> I've also noticed that I have an airplane mode key that no longer seems to do anything on this device, whereas I think used to get an "airplane mode" notification when I toggled it
[18:56] <penguin42> MoPac: Yeh, I suspect the airplane thing is the same problem - that's the thing that's supposed to trigger the rfkill
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| 2015-04-18T00:00:00
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2015-04-18-#maas
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ubuntu-chat
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[05:55] <mup> Bug #1445717 was opened: 180b3 - mark broken is broken <uosci> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445717>
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2024-05-13T22:10:59.995068
| 2015-04-18T00:00:00
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2015-04-18-#ubuntustudio
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ubuntu-chat
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[12:25] <Yako1605> hello everybody ^^
[12:29] <syrako> hi
[12:33] <syrako> how do i do install intel graphic driver for my netbook? i've a packardbell dot s2, and i saw that the driver por graphic accelerator exist, but i don't know how i installthis
[12:33] <cfhowlett> syrako, ubuntu version???
[12:34] <syrako> 14.04.2
[12:37] <syrako> ''Distribution not supported'' this is the error message that intel give me
[12:38] <cfhowlett> syrako, right. intel no longer supports 14.04. upgrade to 14.10
[12:40] <syrako> but i can update ubuntu studio whitout the new installation?
[12:40] <syrako> like in windows?
[12:40] <cfhowlett> syrako, intel offers 14.04 NO graphics support. NONE
[12:41] <cfhowlett> syrako, ???
[12:41] <syrako> but i can update ubuntu studio?
[12:41] <syrako> to 14.10
[12:42] <cfhowlett> syrako, sudo do-release-upgrade IIRC
[12:42] <syrako> ok tkns
[12:43] <syrako> no new relase
[12:45] <cfhowlett> syrako, you have your settings on LTS on, don't you
[12:46] <cfhowlett> syrako, if your update settings are LTS only, you will NOT see a new release until 16.04
[12:46] <syrako> ok
[12:47] <syrako> tnks
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2015-04-18-#ubuntu-us-pa
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2024-05-13T22:11:00.027887
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2015-04-18-#ubuntu-discuss
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[05:15] <daftykins> hilariously the blood went in finger print patterns too
[05:15] <daftykins> definitely not one of my crowning moments in hardware ;)
[05:17] <hopefullythisnic> lol
[05:17] <hopefullythisnic> okay why wont this boot into the windows installation disk anymore
[05:17] <hopefullythisnic> ugh
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> set cdrom as first boot
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> or maybe uefi settings in bios
[05:19] <daftykins> boot priority is a waste of time really, one-time boot menus make more sense
[05:19] <daftykins> (if available)
[05:23] <hopefullythisnic> yea but i dont see it in uefi bios rn
[05:26] <daftykins> optical or flash drive?
[05:31] <hopefullythisnic> optical
[05:34] <daftykins> hmm, reduce it back to the minimal configuration without any HDDs or SSDs plugged in
[05:35] <daftykins> and see if it auto goes to the optical to boot
[05:35] <daftykins> and ensure the optical (if SATA presumably) is connected to motherboard chipset based SATA and not a third party controller chip such as lots often have to provide more ports
[06:55] <ki7mt> Bob, try: sudo lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,SIZE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL .. that should list them all.
[06:55] <ki7mt> Whoops, sorry wrong channel
[06:55] <daftykins> :D
[06:56] <ki7mt> Post in the channel pse Bob, try: sudo lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,SIZE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL .. that should list them all
[06:57] <ki7mt> It did it again !!! I think my IRC client is FUBAR :-)
[06:58] <ki7mt> re-launch time me thinks
[09:06] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:07] <daftykins> o/
[09:07] <daftykins> how are you, lordievader ?
[09:08] <lordievader> Hey daftykins, doing good here. How are you?
[09:09] <daftykins> also good here thanks :)
[09:09] <daftykins> a fine morning it is
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:45] <BluesKaj> 'Morning lotuspsychje
[12:46] <OerHeks> \o/
[12:46] <OerHeks> My dogs think it is too hot outside
[12:46] <BluesKaj> hey OerHeks
[12:46] <OerHeks> hi BluesKaj
[12:47] <BluesKaj> maybe your dogs are right :)
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: hello mate
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: hi
[12:49] <BluesKaj> think I'm going to do a clean install of Kubuntu 15.04 after the official release , my version is mucked up with diiferent colours as default depending on which Qt version they're using
[12:50] <OerHeks> 22 april openstach seminar, 23 april install 15.04, 24 april find a 4th leg for my large computertable.
[12:50] <BluesKaj> plasma5 intehration doen't seem to work on my desktop install, the laptop version is fine
[12:50] <OerHeks> openstack*
[12:51] <OerHeks> oh, i forget, 20 april payday, so i have 1 day off this week
[12:51] <BluesKaj> plsama 5 integration of plasma 4 depenent apps l;ike dolphin
[12:51] <lordievader> Have you guys played with Dracut?
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: whats dracut?
[12:51] <lordievader> Counterpart of initramfs-tools.
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> didnt test myself
[12:53] <BluesKaj> I'm tempted to reinstall the latest daily
[12:54] <lordievader> It fails to boot my luks + lvm :(
[12:54] <lordievader> Or it is systemd who fails, not really sure.
[12:54] <BluesKaj> sddm ?
[12:55] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Was that to me?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> lordievader, yes
[12:57] <lordievader> This is at the mounting of the root fs stage. It is a really bare system. Just wanted to see if it boots.
[12:58] <BluesKaj> ok, so you're chrooting
[12:58] <lordievader> No.
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: keep us up to date on the openstack if it was interesting ok :p
[12:59] <lordievader> Dracut or systemd is trying to mount the luks partition but fails or something, I don't know what it is doing. Anyhow was wondering if someone had experience with a dracut + luks + lvm + systemd setup.
[12:59] <OerHeks> Sure, ticketsale is closed now
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: wow thats fast
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: how much did you pay?
[13:00] <OerHeks> Nothing. i don't know if there is any fee.
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> kk
[13:01] <OerHeks> I just want a pic with Mark :-D
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: the snappy part will be interesting for sure
[13:01] <BluesKaj> oh , luks and lvm, stuff I don't fool around with ...lvm was ok , but I didn't need it
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: maybe that bootchart package can help you see whats going wrong?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, why , he's a traitor
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> !info bootchart | lordievader
[13:02] <OerHeks> no, Dictator :-D
[13:03] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: It is a Gentoo system :P
[13:03] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: And I do not have a filesystem ;) Well an initramfs I suppose, but no real filesystem.
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> oh right
[13:04] <lordievader> From what I gather bootchart is included in Dracut.
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> cool
[13:05] <lordievader> That is if you enable the USE flag.
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: set it to favs if you want
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> and if you dont want also :p
[13:09] * cfhowlett salutes the room with a tip of his tasty beverage
[13:09] <lordievader> Hey cfhowlett
[13:09] <cfhowlett> lordievader, greetings
[13:10] * BluesKaj goes to the kitchen for another coffee
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> check this one: http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/System76-Unveils-Powerful-Desktop-Computer-Powered-by-Ubuntu-14-10-478631.shtml
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> 16gig ram lol
[13:12] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, if I were in the state and needed a desktop: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/cirrus7-nimbini-ubuntu-pc-announced
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> yeah saw that one
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> pretty nice
[13:13] <cfhowlett> definitely has the cool look factor
[13:13] <BluesKaj> it can handle 16G RAM, a la carte options ...749 is pretty expensive for a pc with a free OS , especially with those specs
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: but i would rather choose wich ssd to plugin myself
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: well i guess system76, is the shop for those who cant install ubuntu themselfs on hardware
[13:14] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, yeah, custom builds are the way to go if possible
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: those intel NUC seems nice too
[13:15] <BluesKaj> one must remember windows machines are $100 more due to the OS
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: true
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> so the ubuntu machine must get lower prices
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> but they might wanna profit a little also
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> this machine will run for years
[13:16] <BluesKaj> it's cool looking etc, but a bit pricey for what you gety IMO
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> true
[13:16] <cfhowlett> Profit? in F/Loss?! HERETIC!
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> :p
[13:17] * lotuspsychje hopes more barebone companys rise in the future, no Os, no Hd
[13:17] <OerHeks> maas
[13:18] <BluesKaj> nothing with profit , but this verges on the MAC philosophy , charge like hell and ppl will think their getting something special
[13:18] <BluesKaj> wrong
[13:18] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, and yet ...
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: indeed, mac is way overrated
[13:19] <BluesKaj> my daughter's Imac HDD died , it take 16 steps in the tuorial to replace it
[13:20] <BluesKaj> so she bought a lenovo :)
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> and the myth it has no virusses is long outdated..
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> im playing with telegram on nexus7 tablet with ubuntu touch and it rocks!
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> free chat over wifi
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> and opensource
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> installed the webogram unity icon for desktop also, and works fast n nice
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> https://telegram.org/
[13:28] <BluesKaj> looks like a browser that integrates social media
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> no its just to chat with contacts
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> add your cell number and add contacts
[13:29] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> and can send files to each other
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> its a whatsapp alternative, but more secure
[13:31] <Daekdroom> And it has an open API
[13:31] <BluesKaj> I'm a smartphone luddite ..still use an old flip phone
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> Daekdroom: you also use it?
[13:31] <Daekdroom> The android app is far superior to Whatsapp's. It's a shame people don't use Telegram as much, though.
[13:31] <Daekdroom> lotuspsychje, I rarely get the chance, but yes.
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> nice
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: i dont have smartphone yet either, but i like it on my nexus7 tablet and works with my cell nr
[13:40] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, I'm old and grumpy , and to me smartphones are mostly just gadgets that I'll never need
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: well with ubuntu touch you might like it :p
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> i wouldnt buy an android myself
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> playstore is like a malware nightmare
[13:41] <BluesKaj> I don't even like Ubuntu, I'm a KDE guy :-)
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> ah, there was a kde tablet project, cant remember its name :p
[13:43] <BluesKaj> it doesn't matter, my cell phone is turned off even when it's in my pocket :)
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> i also use a cellphone as a regular one
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> leave it at home all the time :p
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> oldskool behaviour :p
[14:09] <OerHeks> Sometimes i feel like a microbiologist, determination to the real question in #ubuntu
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: users dont look it 'our' way to investigate
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> they only want a quick fix :p
[14:10] <OerHeks> They sure have the brains to create issues.
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> one physical issue, and one mental issue to supporters to decipher :p
[14:12] <cfhowlett> "just tell me what button to click!"
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> :p:p
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> the dd zero button
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2024-05-13T22:11:00.062298
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2015-04-18-#ubuntu
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[00:00] <lzkill> just a minute Jordan_U
[00:02] <lzkill> [10760.940811] usb 3-2: new SuperSpeed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd
[00:02] <lzkill> [10760.957151] usb 3-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0781, idProduct=5580
[00:02] <lzkill> [10760.957155] usb 3-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[00:02] <lzkill> [10760.957157] usb 3-2: Product: Extreme
[00:02] <lzkill> [10760.957159] usb 3-2: Manufacturer: SanDisk
[00:02] <lzkill> [10760.957161] usb 3-2: SerialNumber: AA011202140957272407
[00:03] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | lzkill
[00:05] <lzkill> !pastebin | lzkill
[00:05] <demonspork> Hey, I have a question about LVM volumes. I know you can have parity in an LVM volume group, but can you make an LVM volume group without parity, then add it later?
[00:06] <Jordan_U> lzkill: Go to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com , copy and paste the complete output of "dmesg" into that page, submit it, then copy the URL of that submission and post just the URL here.
[00:07] <rich_> yo
[00:07] <bekks> demonspork: you are referring to mirroring a LVM volume?
[00:07] <rich_> anyone running sparky linux?
[00:07] <Jordan_U> rich_: This is #ubuntu, a channel for Ubuntu support only.
[00:07] <demonspork> bekks: is there not a way to have parity (similar to RAID 5) in an LVM volume? Forgive me if I am mis-remembering, I have been out of the linux world for a few years now
[00:08] <rich_> ahh so would that be under debian then?
[00:08] <wxl> rich_: i think there's a #ubuntu-offtopic or you could try ##linux
[00:08] <rich_> on the join line?
[00:08] <lzkill> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10841554/
[00:08] <Jordan_U> rich_: No, it would be in whatever channel exists (if any) for "sparky linux".
[00:08] <wxl> rich_: yeppers
[00:08] <bekks> demonspork: No, there is no RAID5-comparable functionality in LVM. What you could do is this: you can create a LVM volume and specify the number of copies (for a data block) to be available.
[00:08] <rich_> alright thanks am new to this chat thing wasnt sure if anyone used it
[00:09] <Jordan_U> rich_: You can also ask in ##linux, which supports any distribution.
[00:09] <demonspork> bekks: but that doesn't protect against drive failures?
[00:09] <bekks> demonspork: Thats handy when having a disk spanning LV, for having more than one copy of the data block.
[00:10] <bekks> demonspork: LVM isnt designed for protecting you against drive failures, RAID is.
[00:10] <demonspork> ok
[00:11] <demonspork> What is the route to go for this scenario: Currently have 2 drives, and I don't care about parity. Later on I will add more drives and I want the ability to add parity to the array at that point. Is there any technology in the linux world that allows for that to happen?
[00:11] <bekks> Use a software RAID.
[00:11] <bekks> And convert the RAID1 into a RAID5 later on.
[00:12] <demonspork> what software raid options are there in Linux?
[00:13] <bekks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[00:13] <glendha> oi
[00:26] <Pinkamena_D> I have been using viber desktop and seemingly everytime I do a suspend/resume the client vanishes. I can see pop ups if I get messages but otherwise it seems impossible to bring the main window back. I have to send out a SIGKILL and restart it to get it back.
[00:27] <Pinkamena_D> Any idea what I can do about this? Google is not helping.
[00:51] <jayjo> What would * */4 * * * convert to as a time in a cron job?
[00:53] <jester_0> I installed my graphics driver by using a sh script from NVIDIA's website, how can I uninstall it?
[00:53] <lzkill> my brand new sandisk extreme pen drive makes the network access goes down whenever it's inserted... it's NTFS formatted and contains a folder encrypted with EFS... any clues? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10841703/
[00:55] <jester_0> Sorry, I installed by graphics driver using a .run file, how can I uninstall it? I'm trying to upgrade my graphics card
[00:57] <Bashing-om> jester_0: Try: Find the .run file for the uninstall operation: -> sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" <- ; you have to run the .run file again with --uninstall: -> ./Nvidiawhatever.run --uninstall (must be cd'd to the directory/location) ; as in -> sudo NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-331.38.run --uninstall <- .
[00:58] <Bashing-om> jester_0: IF it is an upgrade, the Nvidia installed used to have an upgrader as part of the package .. maybe still does ?
[01:01] <jester_0> Bashing-om, thanks I still have the .run file, I used it once to install the drivers for the 1st time so I assume it isn't an upgrade
[01:05] <Bashing-om> jester_0: From my notes : -> instructions for upgrading aree buried in it's readme file . -> nvidia-installer --upgrade <- . But may be real old info .. check it out to be sure .
[01:06] <jayjo> n a crontab line I have * */4 * * * ... what does that come out to be?
[01:06] <jayjo> Every minute, what is hour, every of the rest of them?
[01:08] <jester_0> Bashing-om, thanks I would use --upgrade only if I am trying to upgrade the driver, correct? Right now I want to remove the driver, because I bought a new graphics card, so I should use --uninstall?
[01:22] <sko> asl
[01:30] <Bashing-om> jester_0: Yes, if changing the card, remove the driver prior to booting up with a diffrent card, Sorry for the slow response; I was elsewhere for a bit .
[01:40] <mjollnerd1> can someone explain why if I have two files (filea.txt and fileb.txt) and I run the following command it doesn't list either file?: ls -l | grep {filea,fileb}*
[01:41] <umarzuki> mjollnerd1: "|"?
[01:41] <mjollnerd1> pipe
[01:41] <EriC^^> mjollnerd1: are you trying to list both?
[01:42] <mjollnerd1> yes. I'm trying to understand why grep doesn't use the { } symbols like I would expect it to
[01:43] <jason__> that's not a proper regular expression (at least not to my knowledge)
[01:43] <EriC^^> mjollnerd1: you could use ls -l | grep "filea\|fileb"
[01:44] <mjollnerd1> so grep uses regular expressions (I'll look into that). What would be the name given when using symbols such as [ ] and { }?
[01:45] <EriC^^> bash expansions? dunno
[01:45] <jason__> nah those are regular expression things completely separate from bash stuff
[01:46] <jester_0> Bashing-om, thanks a lot man!
[01:48] <jason__> man grep has a section on regular expression syntax
[01:49] <mjollnerd1> thanks. reading into it now
[02:03] <lampini> hi
[02:03] <lampini> hihi
[02:03] <cfhowlett> lampini, ask your ubuntu question
[02:10] <[n0mad]> if i cannot start nautilus from a command prompt and there is no error and i've tried different options i've found on the net, is there any other way to find out what's happening?
[02:11] <[n0mad]> i can only start it as root or from /usr/share/applications
[02:11] <[n0mad]> and other applications can start it
[02:11] <ford_> anyone been able to try the Unreal 4 Engine demo?
[02:12] <ford_> under LINUX?
[02:12] <ford_> i've tried a few times and given up.
[02:12] <ford_> Now I wonder if there is anything to see anyway or just the editor with blank nothing...?
[02:26] <JinjaNinja> Hello, I'm having problems with HDMI sound output via Ubuntu sound drop down menu.
[02:26] <JinjaNinja> ive used it before, and it was an available option to choose from and it worked fine. Now it's gone from the options.
[02:29] <JinjaNinja> can anyone help me out? HDMI isn't an option, it seems, for the sound drop down menu on Ubuntu settings.
[03:06] <pc-moon> hello , i wanna make hostname for my laptop
[03:23] <bulka> I am trying to login on a ubuntu server it asks me password , after supplying password it shows Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS (GNU/Linux 2.6.32-042stab104.1 i686)
[03:23] <bulka> * Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/
[03:23] <bulka> Last login: Fri Apr 17 23:22:20 2015 from <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:23] <bulka> Connection to <IP_ADDRESS> closed.
[03:25] <l4l13n> sooo what is the problem?
[03:25] <rypervenche> bulka: Check your /etc/ssh/sshd_config > Do you have AllowUsers set?
[03:27] <bulka> rypervenche: it is case for user A, but user B can login with and his connection is not closed
[03:28] <rypervenche> bulka: Also check to see what the default shell is for that user. It seems the user is able to log in, but something is kicking him/her out. It could also be your pam modules.
[03:28] <bulka> rypervenche: how to check default shell?
[03:29] <rypervenche> bulka: grep username /etc/passwd
[03:30] <bulka> rypervenche: sorry, it is /bin/false, it means it is a system user without login
[03:30] <bulka> rypervenche: thanks
[03:31] <bulka> rypervenche: so I did set password for this user , will it make any difference?
[03:40] <zzxc> Hey, I have a situation where I have userA and userB both belong to the same group. I have an issue where they are both share a directory that is owned but a group. If userA creates a directory or file then userB can't write in it and viceVersa because the premissions for the new directory are 755. Anyone know a way to fix this?
[03:42] <rypervenche> zzxc: You need to set the umask.
[03:42] <Fugs> hi
[03:42] <rypervenche> zzxc: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-linux-unix-umask-value-usage.html
[03:46] <zzxc> rypervenche: Alright I'll try that both users a deamons though
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:02] <max_> Hey
[04:03] <Guest53976> Anyone here have experience with sys76 machines?
[04:03] <Guest53976> hello
[04:03] <Guest53976> dont know if my msgs went thru before, cuz nickserv didnt like my id, but was wondering if anyone had experience with system76 machines
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Guest53976
[04:07] <Guest53976> I put the HDDs from my windows pc into my wild dog performance sytem76 machine running ubuntu, simply dc-ing the drives w/ ubuntu on em, but now windows has system errors that sytem repair cant fix. How can I fix this?
[04:07] <Guest53976> the error code i got was 0x570
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> Guest53976: are you trying to dualboot windows/ubuntu on your system76 machine?
[04:09] <umarzuki> Guest53976: connecting it back to ubuntu?
[04:09] <umarzuki> did ou have any problem?
[04:09] <Guest53976> well atm i was just testing out my gfx card and stuff with the hardware on this. it was a dev's computer who used to work for my dad
[04:09] <Guest53976> but eventually yea, ill dual-boot
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> Guest53976: you cant just drag n drop a hd into a machine to make it work, youll have to reinstall windows and dualboot with ubuntu
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> Guest53976: and why do you need windows on such beast machine as system76?
[04:11] <Guest53976> *sigh* i was worried about that. hoped i could avoid it tho
[04:11] <Guest53976> lol to play games tbh
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> Guest53976: steam on ubuntu, playonlinux and wine
[04:11] <Guest53976> I am absolutely loving ubuntu on my sys76 laptop tho
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | Guest53976
[04:12] <Guest53976> i wanna run gta v lol
[04:12] <Guest53976> could i do that
[04:12] <Guest53976> with wine i mean
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> Guest53976: no gta is too heavy for that
[04:12] <Guest53976> yea figured
[04:12] <Guest53976> well ill grab another hdd and install windows on that
[04:13] <Guest53976> so i dont have to write over my current installation
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> Guest53976: what you can do is, put the win hd in your sys76 and get data back with photorec, then use it as an ubuntu hd
[04:13] <Guest53976> cause the files and stuff are still readable
[04:13] <Guest53976> okay
[04:13] <Guest53976> ill look into that
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> !info photorec | Guest53976
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | Guest53976
[04:14] <Guest53976> i do actually have a usb bootdisk for 14.10 or something right here tho
[04:14] <Guest53976> so that's convenient i guess
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> Guest53976: i would install 14.04 or wait for 15.04 (next week)
[04:15] <Guest53976> i have 14.04 on my laptop that im using right now
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> cool
[04:15] <Guest53976> for some reason my dad spoiled the shit outta his devs and bought em all the sys76 machines they wanted
[04:15] <Guest53976> but now i got em, so im happy with that lol
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> Guest53976: you should be, such a monster :p
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> i would never dualboot on those myself :p
[04:16] <Guest53976> yea, disappointed the dev didnt hold out for a titan as well tho
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> Guest53976: does it have an ssd inside?
[04:16] <Guest53976> yea lol
[04:17] <Guest53976> actually
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> Guest53976: wich brand?
[04:17] <Guest53976> all the ubuntu os drives are just dc-ed
[04:17] <Guest53976> uh
[04:17] <Guest53976> intel
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> ok
[04:17] <Guest53976> there
[04:17] <Guest53976> there's another ubuntu desktop sitting behind me
[04:18] <Guest53976> lot more powerful than the wild dog performance tho lol
[04:18] <Guest53976> not a system76 tho
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | Guest53976 lets talk there
[04:18] <ijpirela> hi.
[04:18] <Guest53976> okay, be right there. ill probs change my nick
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> okay
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> ijpirela: welcome what can we do for you?
[04:22] <ijpirela> nothing just happened to greet :).
[04:22] <ijpirela> nothing just happened to greet :)
[04:23] <ijpirela> Greetings from Venezuela.
[04:24] <rakeshGunderi> what is the use of refresh in windows?
[04:24] <rakeshGunderi> why it is not in ubuntu? will it use full?
[04:25] <dasexec> Hi, I'm using VirtualBox VM on a mac to run Ubuntu. It;s working fine, however, the screen real estate is distorted. I've installed a additional pack recommended, switched to both scaled and fullscreen. Scaled is still shrunk, full scale just expands the background and not the actual OS screen. Any suggestions?
[04:29] <daftykins> dasexec: are you changing the resolution from within system settings?
[04:31] <AndChat|312500> dasexec, Its not scaled that you should select from list. Another one gives full screen can't remember off hand which.
[04:32] <rakeshGunderi> i think u have to change resolution from system settings.
[04:36] <rakeshGunderi> have to change ubuntu interface font, help me
[04:45] <maziar> why this pgp script dont work on my UBUNTU : http://www.ebrueggeman.com/blog/php_site_access_log
[04:47] <maziar> why this pgp script dont work on my UBUNTU : http://www.ebrueggeman.com/blog/php_site_access_log
[04:47] <[n0mad]> can someone help with a DE issue?
[04:47] <[n0mad]> i'm so done screwing with different DEs after this
[04:47] <[n0mad]> i installed xubuntu-desktop and xfce4-goodies from the software center
[04:47] <[n0mad]> i have now uninstalled them and they're still there!
[04:50] <backbox> salut
[04:50] <luaboy> apt-get package management has encounted problem
[04:50] <luaboy> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:50] <luaboy> samba : Depends: python-dnspython but it is not going to be installed
[04:50] <luaboy> Depends: python-ntdb but it is not going to be installed
[04:50] <luaboy> how to fix this?
[04:51] <backbox> i can install cs go on linux ?
[04:52] <backbox> or steam software
[04:53] <backbox> join #ubuntu
[04:53] <backbox> j #ubuntu
[04:54] <dasexec> backbox, you can download steam and install cs go
[04:55] <dasexec> Steams website will autodetect you are on linux and give you the correct download
[04:56] <ACE> hi all
[05:07] <athan> Hi everyone. I'm having some trouble finding 32-bit graphics libraries on 14.10 (gamez through wine). Any tips? I'm running Intel gfx hardware :\
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | athan
[05:08] <athan> lotuspsychje: It always breaks during install for me :\
[05:09] <Guest70847> list /curitiba
[05:10] <Guest70847> #brasil
[05:13] <pc-moon_> hello , i wanna easy way to change ip to text or domain , my target is open is computer by domain no ip
[05:16] <daftykins> pc-moon_: sorry that doesn't make sense
[05:17] <daftykins> pc-moon_: you want to use a domain to connect to a PC on your home network?
[05:17] <pc-moon_> yes
[05:17] <daftykins> pc-moon_: so edit /etc/hosts to add an IP and a domain - but bear in mind if you use a *real* domain, the internet-based one won't work anymore
[05:18] <pc-moon_> ok
[05:18] <pc-moon_> can you give me an code example
[05:19] <daftykins> pc-moon_: it'll be pretty obvious, you're adding two things... an IP, and a domain
[05:20] <pc-moon_> like is : <IP_ADDRESS> victor-laptop.org ?
[05:20] <daftykins> yep, although <IP_ADDRESS> technically
[05:20] <pc-moon_> ok
[05:20] <pc-moon_> ill try
[05:22] <pc-moon_> Server not found
[05:23] <daftykins> when trying to do what?
[05:23] <pc-moon_> computer can replay pings but another computer cant found
[05:23] <daftykins> yes these changes only work on *your* computer
[05:23] <daftykins> because /etc/hosts is only a local file
[05:24] <pc-moon_> ok i wanna make it work in my inter net
[05:24] <daftykins> your home network, you mean
[05:24] <pc-moon_> yes
[05:24] <daftykins> then you'd have to set it on all the PCs
[05:24] <pc-moon_> how
[05:24] <daftykins> like you just did, but per computer
[05:25] <pc-moon_> you mean like : <IP_ADDRESS> server
[05:25] <pc-moon_> in hosts file
[05:26] <daftykins> well i don't think that's your home LAN IP but yes
[05:26] <daftykins> more likely 192.168.x.x
[05:26] <pc-moon_> yes i know its just example
[05:26] <daftykins> just checking
[05:27] <pc-moon_> its imposable to make domain name in my home
[05:27] <pc-moon_> or in router
[05:27] <daftykins> what is the general objective here? you want to play with hosting a website internally only?
[05:28] <pc-moon_> im web developer
[05:29] <daftykins> so this is for an office?
[05:29] <axighi> hi
[05:29] <daftykins> pc-moon_: the proper way to do this is to learn how to run your own in-house DNS server, but that is beyond the scope of this support channel
[05:29] <maziar> why this pgp script dont work on my UBUNTU : http://www.ebrueggeman.com/blog/php_site_access_log
[05:30] <maziar> i get this error PHP Warning: fopen(log.txt): failed to open stream: Permission denied in
[05:30] <pc-moon_> ok then ill go to learn dns
[05:30] <pc-moon_> its ok
[05:30] <pc-moon_> thank you
[05:30] <daftykins> pc-moon_: BIND9 might be the ticket
[05:30] <pc-moon_> bind9 is DNS
[05:30] <daftykins> sure is
[05:31] <pc-moon_> ok well job
[05:31] <pc-moon_> thank you in advance
[05:41] <ACE> who to upgrade adobe flsh player help
[05:41] <daftykins> firefox? you can't
[05:42] <ACE> i have fairefox
[05:42] <daftykins> if you are wanting to use a website which offers a flash player for say, video, only... your best option is to install chrome with pepperflash and use that
[05:42] <daftykins> but as it goes for firefox right now, flash is game over
[05:43] <ACE> fiarefox say: this plugin is vulnerable and should be updated
[05:44] <daftykins> ACE: yes there are no updates, it is dead - and the truth is as i have described it above
[05:45] <luaboy> what is py3clean？
[05:45] <luaboy> and py3compile
[05:46] <sammy_> adobe isn't officially supporting linux for flash anymore, only providing security backports, you will need to move to a browser such as chrome which has it by default
[05:46] <luaboy> I have broken python and now can not do anything
[05:46] <daftykins> !info py3clean
[05:46] <daftykins> luaboy: best ask a python channel i'd expect
[05:54] <ghost_> hiii guys., ?
[05:55] <daftykins> hi
[05:56] <ghost_> daftykins : where a U from ?
[05:56] <daftykins> that's not really relevant here, do you have an ubuntu support question for us?
[05:57] <daftykins> if not, chat is over in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[05:57] <ghost_> daftykins : where are you from ?
[05:57] <ACE> root@backbox:/tmp# apt-get install google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[05:57] <ACE> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[05:57] <ACE> root@backbox:/tmp# sudo apt-get install google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[05:57] <ACE> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[05:57] <ACE> root@backbox:/tmp#
[05:57] <ACE> ??
[05:57] <daftykins> like i said. not relevant here, please read the topic.
[05:57] <daftykins> ACE: that's not how you install a .deb, "dpkg -i file.deb"
[06:02] <ACE> chrome installed but who to start?
[06:04] <daftykins> ACE: type "chrom" into the dash top left?
[06:05] <ACE> root@backbox:/tmp# sudo chrom
[06:05] <ACE> sudo: chrom: command not found
[06:07] <daftykins> ACE: you do not run things with sudo when you are root, and you do not run browsers as root
[06:07] <daftykins> i'm saying click the 'dash' icon on the launcher top left, if this is unity on standard ubuntu
[06:07] <theuser> you should use root only when neccessary
[06:08] <daftykins> !paste | ACE
[06:08] <ACE> ok sorry
[06:09] <daftykins> np
[06:09] <daftykins> ACE: so if you read your paste, it didn't successfully install because it ran out of space. are you in a live session right now?
[06:10] <ACE> yes
[06:10] <ACE> stik usb 8gb
[06:11] <daftykins> ACE: yeah you need to make a full install to start playing with some programs, they're just not usable from a live session
[06:11] <daftykins> chrome for one is too big
[06:12] <ACE> understand
[06:14] <ACE> I could get the game on steam cs go on ubuntu?
[06:15] <daftykins> if you browse the steam store, there is a little icon to show whether a game is available on Linux
[06:17] <ACE> fps is better or worse (fps : frame per second)
[06:18] <theuser> i think csgo is on ubuntu
[06:18] <daftykins> if the game is native to Ubuntu, hard to say - but if it only works under Wine, it'd be worse for sure
[06:18] <daftykins> *native to Linux i should say
[06:18] <theuser> its native
[06:19] <shafa> hiii
[06:19] <daftykins> http://store.steampowered.com/app/730/
[06:19] <daftykins> sure is, penguin icon indeed
[06:20] <ACE> yes i see thx
[06:23] <boogie> Anyone awake that could help me with what I believe is a simple issue?
[06:24] <daftykins> once you ask it, possibly :)
[06:24] <boogie> Had Dropbox hang while installing, found a terminal command that could fix the dpkg issue I was having, where it was locked, but the command yields "dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process"
[06:25] <daftykins> !aptlock
[06:25] <daftykins> try that
[06:26] <boogie> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a USER PID ACCESS COMMAND /var/lib/dpkg/lock: root 2803 F.... dpkg Kill process 2803 ? (y/N) y dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process
[06:26] <daftykins> reboot first, you could sit and try to find and kill software manager processes but this would be easiest i think
[06:26] <boogie> I was trying to install from the ubuntu software center,if that makes a difference
[06:26] <boogie> I tried a reboot
[06:27] <boogie> That's what causes the issue.
[06:27] <boogie> I couldn't do the previous method untill I rebooted.
[06:27] <daftykins> hrmm
[06:27] <boogie> I've been googling my fingers off lol
[06:27] <daftykins> ok hang on
[06:27] <daftykins> i sense there might be a PID file somewhere that needs nuking
[06:28] <boogie> It was running very quick beofre the db hang
[06:29] <daftykins> can you use http://paste.ubuntu.com to share to me the terminal output of "ps -ef | grep dpkg" ?
[06:29] <daftykins> ah...
[06:29] <daftykins> boogie: how about "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock" then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a" ?
[06:29] <boogie> So I should copy/paste ps -ef | grep dpkg in terminal
[06:29] <boogie> ?
[06:30] <daftykins> you can ignore and skip straight to the above
[06:30] <boogie> ok
[06:31] <boogie> did nothing after first command. Second didnt do anything but is acting as if it is
[06:31] <boogie> Now I think terminal froze. Sheesh
[06:32] <daftykins> yeah first should've completed fine
[06:32] <boogie> I can try again.
[06:32] <daftykins> nah hit space if it's sat on a new line with nothing
[06:32] <daftykins> it'll move if it's busy but still alive
[06:32] <boogie> it moved
[06:32] <boogie> so its busy?
[06:33] <boogie> I really need to get fluent in ubuntu's language. I love tinkering with it.
[06:33] <daftykins> :D
[06:33] <boogie> \What language is it? PPython?
[06:33] <daftykins> might be yeah, i'd let it run if i were you
[06:33] <boogie> ok
[06:33] <daftykins> well these are command line commands at the BASH shell
[06:33] <boogie> ok
[06:34] <boogie> I've been learning HTML and CSS, but this is totally different.
[06:34] <daftykins> yeah, web languages are more markup than programming - and shell commands are more, commands than programming :D
[06:35] <boogie> Is there cool commands in this chat like\
[06:35] <boogie> !ping
[06:35] <boogie> \lol
[06:35] <boogie> !rekt
[06:35] <boogie> :/
[06:35] <daftykins> yeah, although we tend to be pretty strict on keeping things about the support, so you can feel free to abuse ubottu in PM
[06:35] <boogie> I was just wondering.
[06:36] <boogie> Terminal is still sitting.
[06:36] <daftykins> should be some clues like the system hard disk LED as to whether it's working away much
[06:37] <daftykins> or you could run the system monitor app, which is kinda like the task manager if you've used Windows before
[06:37] <boogie> Yep, it's flashing away.
[06:37] <boogie> I have.
[06:37] <boogie> I have this installed on an external, but that shouldn't matter.
[06:37] <boogie> Ok, it finished
[06:37] <boogie> Did nothing tho.
[06:37] <daftykins> may very well be slowing it down if that's over USB then
[06:37] <daftykins> typically in Linux land, no output means "yep that was fine, all is well"
[06:38] <daftykins> so remind me what you were installing again?
[06:38] <boogie> Good lol
[06:38] <boogie> Dropbox
[06:38] <daftykins> ah yes
[06:38] <boogie> Thousands of people have had this problem.
[06:38] <daftykins> what does this do? "dpkg -l | grep dropbox"
[06:38] <boogie> but all were fixed by my initial fix attempt
[06:39] <boogie> iF nautilus-dropbox 0.7.1-2 Dropbox integration for Nautilus
[06:39] <daftykins> hrmm
[06:39] <daftykins> one sec
[06:39] <boogie> I originally tried sudo dpkg -r nautilus-dropbox
[06:39] <daftykins> ah right
[06:40] <boogie> Can we not just purge dropbox?
[06:40] <daftykins> i was just checking if that was the only package needed
[06:40] <boogie> Or will it fail because the dpkg is locked?
[06:40] <daftykins> "sudo apt-get install --reinstall nautilus-dropbox"
[06:40] <boogie> ok
[06:41] <boogie> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:41] <boogie> If you fix this, you, at the least, deserve gold.
[06:42] <daftykins> ah looks like i had a very similar but not quite right version of that command, above
[06:42] <daftykins> so yeah just run what it suggests there
[06:42] <daftykins> gold at the ubuntu olympics \o/
[06:43] <boogie> So I should run
[06:43] <boogie> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:43] <boogie> ?
[06:44] <boogie> Just want to be sure.
[06:44] <daftykins> yip
[06:44] <boogie> I believe it is redownloading it.
[06:45] <boogie> Yep.
[06:45] <boogie> Almost finished
[06:46] <boogie> It bhit 100% and is stalled. I assume it is installing it.
[06:47] <boogie> My bottle of brandy is almost finished too. :(
[06:48] <daftykins> that's no good!
[06:48] <daftykins> although it's 8am here so perhaps that's a good bed time if you're stateside :D
[06:51] <boogie> Yeah, it's still hung up.
[06:52] <boogie> I didn't notice you replied, sorry. My browser didn't auto scroll. lol
[06:52] <daftykins> :D
[06:52] <daftykins> ah the perils of webchat
[06:52] <boogie> I am in the states too. 2am here.
[06:53] <boogie> Damn dropbox. I only needed it for a moment. I could have just used the browser version. lol
[06:54] <daftykins> oh i'm not, near England and France here
[06:54] <daftykins> XD
[06:54] <daftykins> but this'll be easier past-boogie said!
[06:54] <boogie> Ah, I would love to visit the place.
[06:54] <boogie> My gf would not leave, I'm sure of it.
[06:55] <daftykins> she must like rain
[06:55] <boogie> Ha.
[06:55] <boogie> She does, actually.
[06:56] <JohnnyL> I'm getting 'There was a problem connecting to the CUPS server'. It prints fine, i just can't get to printer properties from the GUI anymore?!
[06:56] <boogie> I would need to brush up on my French. I took 3 years of French in High School.
[06:58] <daftykins> JohnnyL: tried opening http://localhost:631 in your browser?
[06:59] <daftykins> boogie: they kinda forced it upon us, but i switched to German 'cause i found it way easier :P
[06:59] <boogie> Wonder why I'm still hung up? Same problem I originally had except that I'm in terminal and not the software center.
[06:59] <boogie> German does sound easy to learn
[07:00] <JohnnyL> daftykins: looks good, but what is the acct/pw for cups?
[07:00] <boogie> French isn't bad, I just can't get the masculine and feminine differences locked down.
[07:00] <daftykins> JohnnyL: your username + pass i think
[07:01] <daftykins> boogie: disk light still going?
[07:01] <Meerkat> will ubuntu still use unity in 15.04?
[07:02] <boogie> Yep, but my cpu isn't being dragged down any longer. Everything is fast again.
[07:02] <cfhowlett> Meerkat, yes
[07:02] <boogie> That was my main problem. lol I don't really need to download anything else on this external. I just like using Ubuntu. lol
[07:02] <cfhowlett> Meerkat, unity is going to be with us for some time. deal with it.
[07:03] <cfhowlett> :)
[07:03] <JohnnyL> daftykins: nope, no acct/pws work.
[07:03] <boogie> but if I close the terminal, it may return. sigh
[07:03] <ki7mt> I like Unity .. once I got used to it.
[07:03] <boogie> I'lll just leave it open all night. ha
[07:04] <daftykins> JohnnyL: hrmm i'd only be googling then i'm afraid
[07:04] <daftykins> ki7mt: stockholm syndrome :)
[07:04] <ki7mt> daftykins, indeed :-)
[07:06] <boogie> Think I should just close the termina?
[07:06] <daftykins> nah, see if it'll play out
[07:06] <boogie> LED is still flashing tho.
[07:06] <boogie> k
[07:07] <boogie> Will do. If in the morning it is the same, I'll stop in again. Night for you. lol
[07:07] <boogie> Goodnight/day guys. Thank you for the help.
[07:08] <daftykins> np, cya :)
[07:09] <JohnnyL> wow this really sucks dick.
[07:09] <daftykins> language, please
[07:11] <cfhowlett> JohnnyL, stop now.
[07:12] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | JohnnyL
[07:14] <ki7mt> I don't see allot of activity in #ubuntu-motu, is there a more active channel they hang out in ?
[07:14] <daftykins> i think official types are more caught via other means, ki7mt
[07:15] <oranjuice> hey. I'm trying to connect to a VPN on Ubuntu 14.04. After a create a new connection and click on the network (or Wifi) button on top (next to time, volume, etc.), and hover over "VPN connections", I see my new VPN connection, but I can't click on it because it's disabled.
[07:15] <oranjuice> any idea why this might be happening?
[07:15] <JohnnyL> hours of guessing because some open source programmer decided to do a politcal move.
[07:15] <JohnnyL> sorry about the lanugage.
[07:15] <ki7mt> daftykins, Yeah, they must be, there's 130+ in there but hardly ever any traffic.
[07:15] <JohnnyL> but i am pissed.
[07:16] <oranjuice> None of the guides I used addressed this. The same steps work for anyone else.
[07:16] <`hypermist`> Hmm i need to install mono but its not installing :s
[07:20] <JohnnyL> ft
[07:20] <`hypermist`> Someone able to help me
[07:20] <Ben64> `hypermist`: you've been here enough to know how this works. give details
[07:21] <`hypermist`> I follow steps and nothing i get no log thats it ben
[07:21] <Ben64> "steps" ?
[07:21] <daftykins> must be that pop band from the early 2000s
[07:22] <`hypermist`> The steps on their website at http://www.mono-project.com/docs/getting-started/install/linux
[07:22] <Ben64> why not "sudo apt-get install mono-runtime"
[07:22] <`hypermist`> Did i know i could to that ? Nope, Cause i was just following what things tell me to do
[07:23] <Ben64> stop following random webpages
[07:23] <Ben64> look in the software center first
[07:23] <`hypermist`> How do i look at that
[07:23] <`hypermist`> with only a terminal
[07:24] <daftykins> apt-cache search <thing to search for>
[07:24] <daftykins> after a friendly "apt-get update"
[07:24] <Ben64> you should undo whatever you did following those steps though
[07:24] <Nothing_Much> Uhhhh
[07:24] <Nothing_Much> I saw a cool thing on G+ and it involved .debs being converted to snappy packages
[07:25] <Nothing_Much> .... Can there exist a .deb to a ... .click package?
[07:25] <Ben64> you should ask #snappy
[07:32] <`hypermist`> I need to install mozroots and xbuild can i have which is apart of Mono may i have some help (Yes i ask to many god damn questions that you guys probably want to slap me but i need help)
[07:33] <cfhowlett> !details | `hypermist`, ask questions ... AFTER providing details! no detailz = no helpz
[07:33] <daftykins> have you even tried the advice you've just received?
[07:34] <`hypermist`> i did provide as much detial as i know cfhowlett i said it comes with mono but idk what else
[07:34] <ANJ7> !ping
[07:36] <`hypermist`> i need to know the package for the xbuild and mozroots
[07:37] <daftykins> `hypermist`: i told you the command of how to search for packages, use it.
[07:38] <`hypermist`> daftykins, yep i did that but that still doesnt help im mostly a noob with this stuff
[07:38] <`hypermist`> cause i do mozroots but it returns nothing
[07:39] <afshin> hey
[07:39] <cfhowlett> `hypermist`, "do" mozroots? what exactly is "do"???
[07:39] <cfhowlett> afshin, ask your ubuntu question
[07:40] <afshin> hey guys. you are awesome
[07:40] <`hypermist`> cfhowlett, i do apt-cache search mozroots and nothing is returned i will try one more step and see if it works but if not i will come back
[07:41] <`hypermist`> !pastebin
[07:42] <`hypermist`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10842934/ i get this when i do the command for the software im trying to install yes i know it says missing dll at the bottom but i need those other two to be fixed haha xD but idk what to do
[07:43] <Ben64> `hypermist`: you'll have to contact the developer for help building whatever that is
[07:43] <`hypermist`> Its apart of mono
[07:44] <Ben64> have you tried typing 'mozroots' on the terminal
[07:44] <guideX> ubuntu phone in the us soon?
[07:44] <daftykins> `hypermist`: well sadly it's quite apparent you want things handed to you, some thought is required on your part i'm afraid :)
[07:44] <daftykins> !touch | guideX
[07:44] <cfhowlett> !phone guideX
[07:45] <cfhowlett> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man1/mozroots.1.html
[07:45] <`hypermist`> oh Ben64 i didnt know, that
[07:46] <guideX> thanks for the site, but does anyone know when I can get ubuntu phone in the us soon?
[07:46] <guideX> or like target dates etc
[07:46] <cfhowlett> guideX, info is on θe site
[07:47] <`hypermist`> well that cleared up the issue thanks Ben64
[07:47] <guideX> well there's a lot on the site... I was hopeing to get the answer in here, I don't exactly see it on the root of the site
[07:47] <daftykins> guideX: please visit the appropriate channel
[07:47] <cfhowlett> guideX, exactly. when announced it will ʃow θe info
[07:48] <guideX> daftykins: oh, is there a ubuntu touch channel
[07:51] <daftykins> guideX: see above
[07:57] <JohnnyL> Why am I getting Forrbidden in cups browser interface?
[07:57] <cfhowlett> JohnnyL, permissions
[08:01] <JohnnyL> cfhowlett: thanks
[08:02] <cfhowlett> happy2help! johnnyL
[08:03] <Notimik> hi all, any one more than me that got problems with the screensaver dont kicking in in unity?
[08:04] <cfhowlett> Notimik, unity HAS no screensaver. what are you doing?
[08:04] <Notimik> well call it screen turn off then same thing for me
[08:05] <Notimik> it dont lock screen either
[08:27] <[Saint]> is the "lock screen after: N" setting non-zero perhaps??
[08:28] <[Saint]> Settings - Brightness & Lock - Turn screen off when inactive for: N
[08:28] <[Saint]> and
[08:29] <[Saint]> Settings - Brightness & Lock - Lock screen after: N
[08:29] <daftykins> sadly the user did not hang around long enough to see those
[08:30] <[Saint]> Argh - bums. I scanned the joins and parts since he spoke but I missed it.
[08:30] <[Saint]> meh, such is life.
[08:31] <daftykins> i tend to like to go with nickname tab completes to confirm
[08:31] <daftykins> also has the benefit of attracting their attention
[08:31] <[Saint]> yeah, good point. I should have done so.
[08:32] * [Saint] goes back to watching leaked game of thrones and ruining it for himself because he'll watch them all in one night and then have to wait until the 12th or March for the next episode
[08:32] <[Saint]> *12th of
[08:49] <toshiba_> hi, I can essporre my problem , I would like smartphones acquarius 4.5 ubuntu ontouh sincronizarlo with nautilus , how should I do ? thanks
[08:50] <cfhowlett> !it | toshiba_
[08:53] <toshiba_> copy files from notebook to nautilis 4.5E
[08:53] <toshiba_> help me
[08:56] <bryan> hello
[09:01] <ND> Hello all. Sorry, english isn't my native. Can someone help me with LXC? I got var/lib/cache files from SLES 11 SP3, so what steps should I do for creation container using sles rootfs files? Or it's not possible? I am using 14.04 LTS
[09:02] <bekks> ND: It isnt possible with that files only. Download an installation CD.
[09:03] <ND> Yes, I have SLES iso file
[09:03] <ND> What steps should i do? Or maybe some documentation exists in internet? I tried find something, but any luck
[09:04] <bekks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/lxc.html :)
[09:04] <ND> But Ubuntu doesn't have SLES template
[09:05] <bekks> Create your own container, install whatever OS in it.
[09:05] <ND> Hmmm
[09:05] <ND> You mean "empty" container ?
[09:05] <bekks> Sure.
[09:05] <ND> hmm, thanks, I will try :)
[09:35] <ivan_> hi
[09:36] <daftykins> hello
[09:38] <daftykins> !pm | Guest59017
[09:46] <ND> According documentation I should use something like "lxc-create -n empty -t none", but perhaps some bug exists - lxc_create.c: main: 274 error creating container empty
[10:04] <wade_> hi
[10:04] <daftykins> hi
[10:07] <Luyin> good morning, I'm having trouble reaching a network printer from my Xubuntu 14.04. I tried setting it up via the printer config, then via the CUPS web interface. every time I send a test page job, I get an "could not locate printer". what could I do?
[10:09] <daftykins> are you entering the correct IP address?
[10:12] <Luyin> daftykins: I haven't seen any IP addresses so far. the printer was automatically discovered both by the web interface and by the printerconfig
[10:12] <daftykins> try ditching that adding manually perhaps
[10:12] <daftykins> or look up in the printer documentation whether it requires a non-standard LPR queue name or RAW port number
[10:15] <phraktle> Hi! I have created a PPA and uploaded a package a few hours ago (using backportpackage), but it's still not showing up... How long is this supposed to take?
[10:15] <daftykins> created a PPA where?
[10:15] <phraktle> https://launchpad.net/~phraktle/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[10:16] <daftykins> launchpad might have a channel, i don't think it's directly related to ubuntu
[10:16] <daftykins> oh ok maybe it is - big fat copyright Canonical XD
[10:16] <wizard_A> i am having sound issues in ubuntu.. :(
[10:17] <dtcs> Hi, how do I store a 50-digit number in C++?
[10:17] <wizard_A> i tried pulseaudio, but in vain
[10:17] <daftykins> dtcs: step 1, is go to a C++ channel - and ask them.
[10:18] <phraktle> daftykins: yes, and the package was uploaded via backportpackage tool from the ubuntu-dev-tools package, so I would say it's ubuntu related ;)
[10:18] <daftykins> meh, still a web service.
[10:18] <phraktle> daftykins: but i'll check if there's a launchpad channel...
[10:18] <daftykins> and you still might be able to find a more relevant channel :)
[10:18] <daftykins> good stuff!
[10:18] <daftykins> !alis | phraktle this might be useful
[10:19] <daftykins> dtcs: you too ^
[10:19] <dtcs> daftykins: tried joining the ##c++ and posted, got response from my IRC client that I can not post in that channel.
[10:19] <Luyin> daftykins: is it possible that the IP address looks like "<IP_ADDRESS>"? I have only seen something like "192.168.[1 digit].[up to 3 digits]"
[10:19] <daftykins> dtcs: you probably have to be registered and recognised, #freenode can help you with that.
[10:37] <froyo> Hello
[10:37] <daftykins> hi
[10:38] <froyo> How can I view qmlscene version?
[10:38] <froyo> I don't find any manpage for qmlscene
[10:39] <daftykins> installed from a package?
[10:39] <froyo> repos
[10:40] <daftykins> apt-cache showpkg <package> ?
[10:40] <froyo> it just showing dependencies
[10:42] <daftykins> er "apt-cache policy <package>" ?
[10:42] <daftykins> i always forget which of those two does what :>
[10:43] <Trigo> Hello, just wanna ask...can I develop ubuntu touch app without the device?
[10:43] <daftykins> !touch
[10:43] <Trigo> owh...thanks
[10:46] <Trigo> tanks for that
[10:46] <Trigo> thanks*
[10:46] <daftykins> np (:
[10:46] <Luyin> ok fixed it by choosing AppSocket/HP JetDirect and entering the IP address manually. thanks for your help
[11:06] <lluisos> hola
[11:07] <lluisos> hola
[11:07] <lluisos> hola
[11:07] <lluisos> ???????¿?¿¿
[11:07] <cfhowlett> lluisos, ask your ubuntu question
[11:07] <vitimiti> !es | lluisos
[11:13] <afshinme1> ?
[11:18] <saurabhdare> Hi, I'm using 14.04.2 on a x86_64 bit system. I want to install ubuntu-sdk.
[11:18] <saurabhdare> However, http://askubuntu.com/questions/592614/cant-install-ubuntu-sdk-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04-2
[11:18] <saurabhdare> This does not fix my installation
[11:18] <saurabhdare> I have qtcreator installed already not the sdk.
[11:19] <Trigo> saura....why you can't?
[11:20] <saurabhdare> Trigo, it installs but I cannot launch it. Only qtcreator starts.
[11:20] <saurabhdare> I've all the upgrades and updates done.
[11:20] <Trigo> Actually, Ubuntu-SDK is based of Qt creator.
[11:20] <saurabhdare> I don't have any PPA installed.
[11:21] <vitimiti> saurabhdare, have you tried launching ubuntu-sdk from the terminal and see what happens?
[11:21] <saurabhdare> vitimiti, lemme see.
[11:21] <vitimiti> saurabhdare, from my experience some times the programs won't appear in the dash until you do that (it always happens to me with latexila)
[11:22] <vitimiti> idk why
[11:22] <saurabhdare> vitimiti, the icon appears; however, only qtcreator starts. Not the modified Ubuntu-sdk with its plugins and all.
[11:22] <vitimiti> hm
[11:22] <Trigo> saura..you install it from repos?
[11:22] <Metaqueer> salut
[11:23] <Metaqueer> je suis pede
[11:23] <saurabhdare> yeah from repo not PPA
[11:23] <cfhowlett> !fr | Metacity
[11:23] <kevinde> How is it possible after the kernel upgrade i'm stuck on the login screen? If I use a older kernel to login it works fine. The login screen pretty much goes into a loop if I use the newest kernel after filling in my password it flashes and brings me to the login screen again
[11:23] <cfhowlett> !fr | Metaqueer sorry metacity
[11:23] <Trigo> Last time, I installed it from PPA, and worked.
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett he was scolding
[11:23] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, mon dieu!
[11:23] <saurabhdare> Trigo, hmm. Maybe reinstalling the newest kernel would help,
[11:28] <bekks> kevinde: With the new kernel, can you login into a terminal?
[11:29] <kevinde> I haven't tried that yet, but I suppose that should be no problem
[11:29] <kevinde> was that alt + F2 or something,
[11:29] <vitimiti> CTRL + ALT + F1
[11:29] <vitimiti> For example
[11:30] <kevinde> I will attempt to login trough terminal and come back
[11:30] <kevinde> brb
[11:37] <kevinde> bekks: I can login into the terminal with no problems
[11:37] <saurabhdare> vitimiti,
[11:37] <saurabhdare> works :)
[11:37] <saurabhdare> brb
[11:37] <vitimiti> saurabhdare, nice
[11:49] <htqp> Hello, since the latest chromium-browser update, if I switch workspaces, it fails to display the browser. It gets redrawn element by element after hovering with the mouse
[11:49] <htqp> any idea?
[11:54] <htqp> (xubutnu 14.04)
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:59] <gr33n7007h> Howdy BluesKaj :)
[12:03] <BluesKaj> hi gr33n7007h
[12:06] <Ramona> /msg NickServ confirm JcQCknIML
[12:06] <Ramona> lel
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> change your password!
[12:07] <Aamit> hi <Ramona, how r u?
[12:09] <gr33n7007h> I've come to the conclusion, of all the nicks on #ubuntu this take first prize [0__0] :) sorry for otopic
[12:11] <Ramona> MonkeyDust: i did lel
[12:12] <Ramona> Aamit: good other than freenode unregistered my nick somehow
[12:13] <Aamit> :( just look the reasons on google... It will help you.
[12:14] <gr33n7007h> Ramona: ask in #freenode for possible reasons
[12:14] <Aamit> gr33n7007h, yes correct
[12:19] <htqp> ok for those interested, here's the bug report https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=293128&q=workspace&sort=-modified&colspec=ID%20Pri%20M%20Week%20ReleaseBlock%20Cr%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20OS%20Modified
[12:27] <hidden> i did rm -rf bitcoin-abe but it didn't free up diskspace
[12:28] <syrako> hi
[12:33] <audreeliss> how to delete the remaining files in KDE? The main kde-full've deleted, but the program remained, how to remove them all at once?
[12:36] <MrElendig> audreeliss: how did you delete them?
[12:36] * MrElendig smell a xyproblem
[12:36] <MrElendig> hidden: if it is still running or kept open by some process then it won't be freed until those processes terminates or frees the handle
[12:37] <audreeliss> apt-get autoremove
[12:37] * afshinmeh
[12:37] <audreeliss> but remained to kde
[12:38] <EriC^^> audreeliss: apt doesn't remove the programs, you have to manually remove them
[12:38] <EriC^^> there's a website with a list of the stuff for each de, psychocats.com or something
[12:39] <audreeliss> EriC^^: thx :)
[12:39] <EriC^^> http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[12:39] <EriC^^> make sure you have the same ubuntu version
[12:39] <OerHeks> I think after removal, logout and login again ?
[12:41] <EriC^^> somebody should write a program that checks if everything that gets pulled in by the metapackage is a dependency of the de a person wants to keep and if not remove it
[12:43] <Luyin> EriC^^: feel free to do so? :D
[12:43] <OerHeks> EriC^^, a DE is such a huge collection, i wonder if that could be done.
[12:43] <Darryl> o/
[12:44] <EriC^^> Luyin: i wrote a part of it, somebody once needed all the dependencies of a package recursively, feel free to continue it? :D
[12:47] <EriC^^> OerHeks: i think it would work, i don't know how pacman in arch does it, but it has a recursive removal feature which removes everything that de brought in
[12:49] <OerHeks> EriC^^, if there is a launchpad team, i'd like to join it.
[12:49] <Luyin> EriC^^: github? ;)
[12:50] <EriC^^> i dont have a launchpad account even or github..
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: set discuss to your favs :p
[12:51] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: hehe
[12:53] <Luyin> EriC^^: some other way to share code, then?
[12:56] <EriC^^> Luyin: ok, i'll make a github account i guess
[12:57] <Luyin> EriC^^: good idea ;)
[13:07] <oleg_> Hi
[13:07] <oleg_> Do you spek rusian?
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> !ru | oleg_
[13:07] <cfhowlett> !ru | oleg_
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: come in discuss mate :p
[13:08] <oleg_> !ru
[13:10] <waxasky> hi
[13:11] <oleg_> Fankyou
[13:24] <hkrrsx> morning
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> hkrrsx: hello mate
[13:32] <sheer> hi. how do I make a partition without root access? for safe day to day use?
[13:33] <Luyin> sheer: what do you mean, without root access?
[13:33] <Luyin> you cannot create a partition as non-root. full stop.
[13:33] <MonkehParade> Hey..
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> MonkehParade: welcome
[13:33] <MonkehParade> May I ask a question?
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> MonkehParade: shoot
[13:34] <sheer> someone suggested that I do that, I guess I misunderstood
[13:34] <MonkehParade> Well, it's not technically ubuntu related, but more or less debian.
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> !debian | MonkehParade
[13:34] <Luyin> !meta | MonkehParade
[13:34] <Luyin> oh again
[13:34] <Luyin> can someone give ubottu a meta command, please? :D
[13:35] <Luyin> sheer: I guess so too ;)
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> Luyin: for what purpose?
[13:35] <Luyin> to stop people from asking meta questions
[13:35] <MonkehParade> I need to get a few package for my raspi, but it doesn't have an internet connection, so I thought of getting them from my laptop, which runs (a heavilu modified xubuntu).
[13:36] <MonkehParade> .. but the packages on my laptop are 64bit.
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> Luyin: you will have to join #ubuntu-ops for such sugestions
[13:36] <MonkehParade> .. how can I get the same packages for the arm architecture? :/
[13:36] <pixel6692> MonkehParade: is it impossible to give connection to raspi?
[13:37] <MonkehParade> I don't have a router, only a direct connection, and the raspi has a static ip.
[13:37] <pixel6692> direct connection as you are connected by ethernet?
[13:37] <MonkehParade> Yes, pixel6692
[13:38] <MonkehParade> I hope my question isn't off-topic, stupid or noobish :/
[13:38] <Luyin> thx lotuspsychje
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> Luyin: np, there is also a trigger add command if you like
[13:39] <pixel6692> MonkehParade: maybe someone else can respond how to download packaged for other architecture but to gain connection to your raspberry you may consider buying WifiDongle for Raspi, USB->Ethernet for laptop and then you can easily tether connection form laptop to raspi
[13:40] <DazPetty> I decided to return to ubuntu, from arch linux
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> DazPetty: good choice mate
[13:40] <DazPetty> because I know that I can download allmost anything from the official repositories without it breaking my comp
[13:40] <shafa_> i dont knw anything
[13:40] <shafa_> plzz help me
[13:40] <shafa_> eloooo
[13:40] <MonkehParade> DazPetty, what version of ubuntu do you use?
[13:41] <DazPetty> 14.04
[13:41] <MonkehParade> Has anyone here tried the new 15 something Ubuntu?
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> shafa_: please ask a real question
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> MonkehParade: vivid releases next week
[13:42] <MonkehParade> I thought they already released it .__>
[13:42] <shafa> i didt get u
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> !15.04 | MonkehParade
[13:42] <MonkehParade> I saw so many posts about it on OMG UBUNTU
[13:42] <pixel6692> is there spin with pure Gnome Ubuntu?
[13:42] <Luyin> MonkehParade: alpha/bta status images are available, if you're interested
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> MonkehParade: its in alpha stage
[13:42] <Luyin> pixel6692: you mean Ubuntu Gnome?
[13:42] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to add applications to cairo-dock without having to log out or to create a custom desktop entry or some other complicated/time consuming task?
[13:42] <cfhowlett> !ask |shafa,
[13:43] <shafa> k
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> kokut: you use docky as alternative if you like
[13:43] <kokut> also, what's the easiest way to add applications to cairo-dock?
[13:43] <shafa> got it...what type of question ?
[13:43] <MonkehParade> I still run Ubuntu 12.04.
[13:43] <MonkehParade> I still run Ubuntu 12.04.
[13:43] <MonkehParade> Double post. Sorry.
[13:44] <pixel6692> Luyin yes, it is not that i hate unity but i prefer gnome, is there official spin?
[13:44] <cfhowlett> shafa, this is ubuntu support. what do you want to know
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> kokut: normally if you start a program, you can right mouse click the icon on cairo to pin it
[13:44] <Luyin> pixel6692: did you read my reply? there is Ubuntu Gnome
[13:44] <kokut> lotuspsychje: but i want to add guake
[13:44] <MonkehParade> I prefer Gala, but it's still beta :/
[13:44] <pixel6692> Luyin my bad, i thought you were just repairing my word order. Thanks
[13:45] <kokut> i should be able to right click on the applications menu entry and "Add to cairo-dock bottom-dock" or something but its not like that
[13:45] <MonkehParade> Gala is gorgeous. Gala on Xubunu runs faster than Ubuntu or eOS.
[13:45] <shafa> i want to become an hacker
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> kokut: if you start guake it shows on cairo right?
[13:45] <Luyin> pixel6692: np
[13:45] <kokut> lotuspsychje: no
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[13:45] <cfhowlett> shafa, wrong channel. we don't hack here. look elsewhere.
[13:46] <kokut> lotuspsychje: it would upset me if it did because the whole point is that it's invisible
[13:46] <kokut> tmux
[13:46] <kokut> too
[13:46] <pixel6692> this shafa is just trolling with you obviously, someone have too much free time on weekend rather than polishing his distro :)
[13:47] <cfhowlett> pixel6692, possibly, but still: let's not feed them.
[13:47] <MonkehParade> shafa, try Kali Linux.
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> kokut: you could add guake as autostart service
[13:48] <MonkehParade> I feel like most people who claim to use Kali Linux don't really know much about Linux.
[13:48] <kokut> lotuspsychje: yea i should
[13:49] <MonkehParade> Does anybody know of a web interface where I could download packages from? :/
[13:49] <kokut> lotuspsychje: but what if i have to add another application in the futuer?
[13:50] <hkrrsx> MonkehParade: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[13:50] <shafa> then what i get from here?
[13:50] <shafa> am first time in this app?
[13:50] <shafa> so how change the channel
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> kokut: normally adding icons to cairo dock must be easy mate
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> MonkehParade: you can also use apt-get download packagename
[13:51] <MonkehParade> No, i mean something similar to apt-web. but yeah, i'll try that too.
[13:51] <Luyin> shafa: perhaps you'd start with some online research about IRC, and if you want to learn hacking, learn a programming language. this channel is for ubuntu support. if you haven't got a support question, I suggest you hang around in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:51] <kokut> lotuspsychje: well i added all my applications logging out and logging in with unity so i can use the dash to search for the application and drag-and-drop it in my cairo dock instance
[13:52] <kokut> then i log out and log back in with cairo-dock and without unity
[13:52] <kokut> that takes time and its just wrong
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> kokut: try docky, much easier
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> !info docky | kokut
[13:54] <kokut> lotuspsychje: k let me give it a try, i dont want to waste much time configuring it tho
[13:54] <kokut> lotuspsychje: i have all the cairo-dock set up as i want
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> kokut: maybe the #cairo-dock guys might know also
[13:56] <kokut> lotuspsychje: i know how it's done its just time consuming man, i have to look for the application file myself
[14:00] <howlymowly> hi everyone... short question: I want to use backintime to backup my files on a ssh server is this possible using only a password and no ssh-key?
[14:02] <Luyin> howlymowly: is it ever advisable to use ssh without an ssh-key? ;)
[14:02] <Luyin> howlymowly: and yes, backintime is just a gui backend for rsync. so everything you can do with rsync you can also do with backintime
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> howlymowly short questions rarely have short answers
[14:02] <OerHeks> howlymowly, that could be done, configure that ssh-service by reversing disable password .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring#Disable_Password_Authentication
[14:03] <OerHeks> and make an user i guess.
[14:03] <marianne> hello, just installed 14.10 on my laptop and the software center took a dump, is it possible to reinstall without doing a complete reinstall (install over the top)
[14:03] <prima> haiii
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> marianne: if you wait one week, you could update to 15.04
[14:05] <marianne> lotuspsychje: kinda need it now... is it possible? and is 15.04 an LTS version?
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> marianne: no 14.10 and 15.04 are no LTS
[14:05] <cfhowlett> marianne, LTS? no. 14.04 is LTS
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> marianne: you could install your needed package with sudo apt-get install packagename
[14:06] <OerHeks> marianne, so what is your issue with softwarecenter?
[14:07] <marianne> OerHeks: I click on it and it maybe shows for a second and then goes away...known issue I guess
[14:07] <Rudde> Hello
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> marianne: goes away as in window gone?
[14:07] <DukeDrake> hi
[14:08] <marianne> lotuspsychje: yes, and I can't even get it to come up using terminal
[14:08] <Rudde> So I have a fresh instal of ubuntu server
[14:08] <Rudde> and when I boot I get two "Starting SMB/CIFS File and Active Directory Server" where one of them fail.
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> marianne: any errors when you start from terminal?
[14:09] <marianne> lotuspsychje: when I open terminal, it just sits at the prompt
[14:09] <Farmacevta> hi all
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> marianne i had that too, with other sudo apps too... make sure "policy kit" is checked in the startup programs (dash > startup)
[14:10] <Farmacevta> I know here is not the right place to ask. I want to remove my Windows, and install some Linux distribution like Ubuntu. But I want to be more same like Windows. Ubuntu isn't so good for me. I like something which will be like copy of windows but using Linux. Can you suggest any linux distribution which is like windows ?
[14:10] <hkrrsx> Farmacevta: Try Lubuntu ?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> Farmacevta, try Kubuntu, the KDE desktop looks very familiar to windows users
[14:11] <marianne> MonkeyDust: policy kit isn't listed
[14:11] <DukeDrake> how can I change the user to login at startup?
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> marianne there's atrick for that, moment...
[14:12] <DukeDrake> somehow it's using my screen name and not my login name in X
[14:12] <Farmacevta> hkeide i saw screenshots of it. Thanx I will try it now
[14:12] <OerHeks> Farmacevta, if linux is like windows, we would get lawsuits.
[14:12] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, unless you were north korea
[14:13] <BluesKaj> there's a windows 7 imitator linux distro called Zorin , Farmacevta
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> Farmacevta: you can also setup a theme on ubuntu, so it looks like windows
[14:13] <OerHeks> I cannot find their irc channel, cfhowlett
[14:14] <DukeDrake> i.e.: I can't login , as it's trying to login my screenname instead of my login
[14:14] <Farmacevta> okay and one more question: Which linux distribution is the best for playing games for windows ?
[14:14] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, red star OS? not sure they even have an IRC
[14:14] <Luyin> Farmacevta: ubuntu-based, any; gentoo works well, too
[14:15] <OerHeks> !wine
[14:15] <hkrrsx> cfhowlett: OerHeks: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode&chat=zorin
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> marianne this command makes all startup modules visible (doesnt chan them) sudo sed -i 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> (doesnt change them)*
[14:17] <hkrrsx> cfhowlett: OerHeks: Disregard my link, I thought you couldn't find ZorinOS ..... reading comprehension fail
[14:18] <cortex> hi
[14:18] <OerHeks> hkrrsx :-)
[14:19] <cortex> i using weechat
[14:19] <cortex> its so nice
[14:19] <cortex> sorry for my poor english
[14:20] <marianne> MonkeyDust: no such file or directory
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> marianne when what? after entering that command, or after invoking startup programs?
[14:23] <DukeDrake> hm ... Ican login via terminal, but not on the graphical login
[14:23] <DukeDrake> is that possible at all?
[14:23] <marianne> MonkeyDust: entered the command (had a typo the first time) and I'm just back at the prompt
[14:24] <ioria> DukeDrake, ls -l ~/.Xautority ?
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> DukeDrake: ubuntu version?
[14:24] <marianne> MonkeyDust: ok opened up start up apps and there is a ton of stuff now
[14:25] <ioria> DukeDrake, ls -l ~/.Xauthority ? , sorry
[14:25] <geoffmcc> ls
[14:25] <DukeDrake> 14.02
[14:25] <marianne> MonkeyDust: PolicyKit does have a check in the box
[14:25] <DukeDrake> just updgraded --> can't login
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> marianne yes, look for Policy Kit, make sure it's checked
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> ok
[14:26] <DukeDrake> .Xauthority is present .... so ?
[14:26] <marianne> MonkeyDust: it is... what next?
[14:26] <DukeDrake> (14.04, sorry)
[14:26] <ioria> DukeDrake, sorry again hidden file ... ls -la ~/.Xauthority
[14:26] <DukeDrake> yes, it's present
[14:26] <DukeDrake> so?
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> marianne not sure
[14:26] <DukeDrake> it's there
[14:27] <ioria> DukeDrake, type ls -la ~/.Xauthority to check permissions
[14:27] <marianne> MonkeyDust: going to restart and see what happens
[14:27] <DukeDrake> permissions are owner: rw
[14:27] <ioria> DukeDrake, it shoden't be root:root but user:user
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> marianne that's "the Windows trick"
[14:27] <DukeDrake> it is user:user
[14:28] <marianne> MonkeyDust: hey you never know unless you try, but if that doesnt work, can i just install the same version over the top?
[14:28] <Farmacevta> fuckers
[14:28] <Farmacevta> Lubuntu rocks 1
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> !language | Farmacevta
[14:28] <Farmacevta> okay sorry
[14:28] <DukeDrake> ioria: next? ^
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> marianne my advice: use 15.04 (it's stable enough by now) and create a separate /home partition during install
[14:29] <DukeDrake> (should startx work at all from Terminal?)
[14:29] <marianne> MonkeyDust: brand new laptop, nothing installed on it yet, so redoing it isn't a big deal
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> marianne: also check your syslog and dmesg for errors on software-centre
[14:30] <Luyin> you could even replace software-center by something more performative... ;)
[14:30] <ioria> DukeDrake, and the home directory ls -l /home/user ?
[14:30] <DukeDrake> ioria: yes
[14:30] <marianne> lotuspsychje: package manager isn't there either... no way to update or install except terminal... error is unmet dependencies
[14:31] <OerHeks> DukeDrake, startx is old, use sudo service lightdm start
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> !aptlock | marianne try this maybe
[14:32] <DukeDrake> OerHeks: says "start: Rejected send message .... "
[14:33] <kokut> anyone knows a free and ad-free alternative to spotify?
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> kokut #ububntu-offtopic
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> kokut #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:33] <kokut> MonkeyDust: its kind of on-topic bro
[14:34] <cfhowlett> kokut, nope. please ask in the other channel.
[14:34] <Luyin> kokut: no it's not. this is a support channel. looking for an alternative package is not a "problem".
[14:35] <kokut> right
[14:35] <OerHeks> alternative spotify: make your own music.
[14:35] <DukeDrake> oh, sudo %)
[14:36] <OerHeks> * all songs you can play are included
[14:36] <marianne> lotuspsychje: not an event was the response
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> marianne: thats really weird, did you have same issue on 14.04?
[14:37] <marianne> lotuspsychje: nope 14 .04 was slick and easy...
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> marianne I agree, that's why i stick to it
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> marianne: maybe you should stick to LTS if you want a stable software centre :p
[14:38] <kokut> OerHeks: what u mean make my own music
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> marianne: wich package are you trying to install actually?
[14:39] <marianne> lotuspsychje: think my best bet at the moment is to reinstall... thinking of trying the 14.10 reinstalll and if not just see if 14.04 works... worse case is I do the install over a few times
[14:39] <marianne> lotuspsychje: flash
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> marianne: wich flash?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> marianne: did you try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[14:40] <marianne> lotuspsychje: let me see if that does anything
[14:41] <marianne> lotuspsychje: ok thats installing
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> marianne: that should fix your flash
[14:42] <marianne> lotuspsychje: any way to reinstall software center? and package manager?
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> !info synaptic | marianne try this one
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> marianne: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[14:43] <saurabhdare> hi, I am trying to write my first Ubuntu app from the tutorial. I selected QML app with qmake.
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> saurabhdare: on ubuntu touch?
[14:44] <saurabhdare> However, I see error parsing line -- "import Ubuntu.Components 1.1
[14:44] <saurabhdare> "
[14:44] <saurabhdare> lotuspsychje, *for* ubuntu touch
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> !touch | saurabhdare please join here
[14:45] <francisco> ,
[14:46] <marianne> lotuspsychje: ok, installed synaptic... error occured -- malformed line 57 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse) the list could not be read
[14:47] <Guest66581> hi everyone. i need a command on terminal for logoff my session in ubuntu
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> marianne: did you add a ppa recently?
[14:47] <vlt> Hello. I’m using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. When encoding video to codec dnxhd with avconv version 9.18-6:9.18-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> I get blocky artefacts, especially in areas of high contrast. What can I do to prevent this?
[14:47] <marianne> lotuspsychje: yes... <hanging head in shame>
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> marianne: maybe the ppa add causes your issue?
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | marianne
[14:48] <cfhowlett> vlt, gotta ask the avconv or ffmpeg channels about that
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> marianne: a sudo apt-get update might also do magic after removing ppa
[14:49] <vlt> cfhowlett: Ok, thanks.
[14:52] <marianne> lotuspsychje: can you provide me with the exact command... nothing I'm typing works
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> marianne: try removing your ppa manually from software sources
[14:53] <Farmacevta> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtTys2xFzNU
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> Farmacevta: please no links here
[14:54] <Farmacevta> ok
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> Farmacevta: you can chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:54] <Farmacevta> thanks
[14:56] <cortex> exit
[14:58] <marianne> lotuspsychje: still getting the error
[14:59] <marianne> lotuspsychje: i love ubuntu once i get it settled... but ugh this can be painful
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> marianne: go for the ubuntu 14.04.2
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> marianne should have stuck to 14.04
[15:01] <monty_hall> is there a way I can install 15 over 14?
[15:01] <SchrodingersScat> !15.04
[15:02] <monty_hall> I can't wait\
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> monty_hall how do you mean "over"?
[15:02] <monty_hall> I have kallithea scm and somehow I can't write a functioning init script
[15:02] <monty_hall> systemd is so much easier.
[15:02] <ioria> marianne do you have .list file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?
[15:03] <monty_hall> april... well, I guess I can wait a few more days.
[15:04] <marianne> ioria: yes
[15:05] <ioria> marianne try to mv or delete if you wanna to get rid of it
[15:09] <marianne> ioria: no go, it won't let me delete it ... no idea why, I'm superuser
[15:09] <boabsta> hi folks, i'm running Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS but uname -r reports the kernel version as 3.8.0-29-generic? Is that correct? I was expecting 3.13+
[15:09] <compdoc> boabsta, youre right, thats the wrong kernel
[15:10] <boabsta> dist-upgrade says there's nothing to uograde? :( how could that have gone wrong, this is on a feshly installed VPS
[15:10] <ioria> marianne remember me... did you want flash player for firefox ?
[15:10] <marianne> ioria: yes
[15:10] <ki7mt> It's not technically wrong, he's just not upgraded .. should be about 3.13.0-49 or so now.
[15:10] <boabsta> is there a way to forcefully install the correct kernel?
[15:10] <OerHeks> boabsta, oh, you have upgraded your vps, ask your hosting for a fresh image.
[15:11] <compdoc> boabsta, did you use some program to create a bootable image?
[15:11] <ioria> marianne go to the web site and download the .tar file, unzip, and put libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins...
[15:11] <boabsta> boot, grub, etc all seem to have vmlinuz-3.13.0-49-generic
[15:12] <boabsta> compdoc: no, nothing fancy with the install
[15:12] <ioria> marianne https://get2.adobe.com/flashplayer/?no_redirect
[15:12] <ioria> marianne .tar.gz
[15:14] <ki7mt> boabsta, the first thing I would try, before performing surgery is updating grub2 .. but 3.8 rings a beel from a PAE standpoint, is the box older hardware ?
[15:14] <ki7mt> .. rings a bell
[15:15] <boabsta> ki7mt: eeem not sure, just got it. cpu is Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690
[15:16] <asky> Please help , when I click in the icon to connect to xifi it gives me a message says networking disabled , and when i type ifconfig in terminal , doesnt show me my devices , only shows " lo " , I have two devices internal eth0 and external , wlan0 , No one is detected , but first why does it says networking disabled , please how to fix that ?????
[15:17] <asky> ?????
[15:17] <rgb-one> asky: on my machine f12 is the key to enable and disable network connections.
[15:17] <rgb-one> asky: click f12
am not in my ubuntu machine right now any other solutions I can try ???
[15:18] <ki7mt> boabsta, Well its not a PAE issue then,, try updating Grub first
[15:18] <OerHeks> ioria, do not suggest to install flash that way, see the !flash factoid
[15:18] <ioria> i know...
[15:19] <marianne> ioria: thank you for your help. but it won't go... going to reinstall
[15:19] <ioria> sorry, but i think was temporary
[15:19] <rgb-one> asky: When you get to your machine we can troubleshoot.
[15:20] <OerHeks> the user comes back and wants us to fix that.
[15:21] <boabsta> ki7mt: do you mean to do update-grub2?
[15:21] <OerHeks> pepperflash is the latest flash, not sure if firefox is able to use that.
[15:21] <ki7mt> boabsta, sudo update-grub watch as it runs see if it picks up the newer kernels
[15:22] <ioria> OerHeks, i suggested that because i did it ... but i'm sure you're right
[15:22] <boabsta> ki7mt: yeah it got it, but same thing - old kernel version
[15:22] <boabsta> ki7mt: there's only 2 entries in menu.lst - Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS, kernel 3.13.0-49-generic (and the recovery mode)
[15:22] <Korhonen> Is there any accepted practice to how to store a daemon in your home directory?
[15:22] <OerHeks> boabsta, ask you provider of that VPS for a fresh image, they tweak their images so this upgrade is useless, or see their docs howto upgrade.
[15:22] <boabsta> OerHeks: okay, cheers
[15:22] <Korhonen> Like, can something like "service <name> start" run something from your home directory?
[15:23] <ki7mt> boabsta, so are you selecting the 3,13 kernel to boot from?
[15:24] <iufdsfu> !search cbt nuggets
[15:24] <boabsta> it doesn't give me a chance to select anything because the crappy web console takes too long to load :) lsb_release reports 14.04 but uname has the old kernel
[15:24] <boabsta> i'm going to go bug the support guys
[15:25] <ali_> hi all
[15:25] <mp_se> hi. how can I change privileges for my usb flash? I have wdlxtv and I think that usb is not visible on the device only because of access privileges?
[15:25] <ki7mt> boabsta, first off .. There is no menu.lst any more with grub2, as of 12.04 I think, the config is in /boot/grub/grub.cfg .. but you should *not* edit that manually
[15:26] <mp_se> I've listed all mounted discs: sudo fdisk -l
[15:27] <ki7mt> boabsta, is your want to customize your entries, then go in custom entries or 40_custom
[15:27] <mp_se> and change permission on the right disc with: sudo chmod 666 /dev/sdb
[15:27] <boabsta> ki7mt: aah okay, it's been a while :)
[15:27] <ki7mt> boabsta, See info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/CustomMenus
[15:28] <OerHeks> ki7mt, its a VPS
[15:29] <ki7mt> OerHeks, errr .. ok
[15:29] <ki7mt> What version of UB is the server running ?
[15:29] <boabsta> ki7mt: OerHeks I can only see 3.13 kernel images in /boot too
[15:30] <OerHeks> So he was going to do the right thing: contact support.
[15:31] <ki7mt> Is he the VPS Admin? he can mange the VPS if yes
[15:32] <boabsta> ki7mt: OerHeks aaaah ffs, just found a "Toggle bootloader" type option in the VPS providers control panel (which has just caused a HTTP 500 trying to change it to the VPS bootloader lol)
[15:33] <ki7mt> boabsta, I wsa just about to say, normally on Hosted servers they have a Control Panel for this.
[15:34] <boabsta> ki7mt: woohoo uname reports 3.13.0-49-generic
[15:34] <boabsta> ki7mt: everyday's a school day - thanks for the help mate
[15:34] <boabsta> and thanks OerHeks
[15:34] <ki7mt> I did not do anything .. you figured it out ,, nice one :-)
[15:34] <PSF> hi, I cannot boot my ubuntu after fresh install and installing updates. I'm sure i did not break anything. I'm using LVM on Dell xps 13. Any ideas?
[15:36] <PSF> Ubuntu is 14.04 LTS
[15:37] <rgb-one> PSF: maybe the update broke something with grub2
[15:37] <PSF> rgb-one: how do I fix it?
[15:37] <rgb-one> PSF: What happens when you try to boot?
[15:37] <mavek> #libgdx
[15:38] <PSF> I get a message: No bootable devices found
[15:38] <PSF> I know it installed new kernel and initrd stuff
[15:39] <PSF> I have root fs encrypted during install, could that be the problem
[15:39] <PSF> ?
[15:43] <_guest_> is there a good driver for the amd radeon 5400?
[15:44] <OerHeks> !ATI
[15:44] <OerHeks> _guest_, look in 'additional drivers'
[15:50] <PSF> Does anyone have experiences with installing Ubuntu on Dell XPS 13, I can't get sound to work
[15:53] <rgb-one> PSF: it boots now?
[15:53] <kokut> How come i can't rename/delete files when i'm selecting a file download location/file save location? is there a plugin or something i can install to add this functionality? It works in windows... :p
[15:54] <PSF> rgb-one: no, i had the sound issue before i restarted
[15:54] <rgb-one> kokut: you could always rename it after it is finished downloading
[15:54] <OerHeks> kokut, in windows you cannot either.
[15:54] <kokut> rgb-one: that's exactly the opposite of answering my question.
[15:55] <ki7mt> kokut, renaming should be automatic if you download 2x of the same file, it should stick a -(x) on the suffix.
[15:55] <kokut> OerHeks: yes you can, i do it all the time
[15:55] <OerHeks> you can alter the name that will be used to write, but not delete files and such.
[15:55] <kokut> ki7mt: it doesnt matter its not what i need (or everyone for that matter) its extremely useful to be able to rename files from the "select file download location" etc
[15:56] <boogie> Dropbox got hung up while installing. Now I'm getting dpkg errors when trying to do any updates, I can't install anything, and it is taking up 100% of my cpu. It says the dpkg is locked. Anyone know how to unlock it or kill the task?
[15:56] <kokut> OerHeks: yes you can delete files too
[15:56] <kokut> in windows 7 at least
[15:56] <ki7mt> kokut, the dl location is set in browser settings. what are you using to download these files
[15:56] <rgb-one> boogie: !lock
[15:57] <kokut> ki7mt: are u kidding m8 i'm not asking wheres the freaking download location
[15:57] <rgb-one> !lock
[15:57] <ki7mt> kokut, ok, good luck.
[15:57] <OerHeks> boogie, use alt+tab to see if dropbox is giving a message window
[15:57] <boogie> No, it is not.
[15:58] <kokut> ki7mt: i need to be able to delete/rename files when i'm selecting the download location or selecting the save location when using gimp, inkscape or any other software, understand?
[15:58] <boogie> I tried sudo dpkg --configure -a like it says to do, but it just reinstalls dropbox and hangs again.
[15:58] <rgb-one> boogie: http://askubuntu.com/questions/498102/how-do-i-unlock-var-lib-dpkg-lock
[15:58] <kokut> the file explorer that lets you choose the file name/extension doesn't allow you to rename/delete files
[15:59] <boogie> rgb which command do you think I should use first?
[15:59] <kokut> i don't know if i'm explaining myself correctly :\
[15:59] <boogie> In that list
[16:00] <boogie> sudo killall dpkg says no process found
[16:00] <rgb-one> use rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[16:00] <boogie> Just did, it did nothing.
[16:01] <rgb-one> boogie: it did do something
[16:01] <rgb-one> boogie: try to install dropbox again
[16:01] <boogie> I tried
[16:01] <boogie> ps afx|grep dpkg
[16:01] <boogie> It says this
[16:01] <boogie> 14779 ? S 0:00 /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/nautilus-dropbox.postinst configure 16386 pts/1 S+ 0:00 \_ grep --color=auto dpkg
[16:02] <boogie> I don't even want dropbox anymore. lol I just want to remove it.
[16:02] <rgb-one> boogie: sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --remove nautilus-dropbox
[16:03] <boogie> ty
[16:04] <boogie> rgb this is the outcome.
[16:04] <boogie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10845401/
[16:05] <rgb-one> boogie: it is removed.
[16:06] <boogie> Pc is still running slow. hmmm
[16:06] <boogie> I'll close all open programs and see. Ty
[16:07] <rgb-one> boogie: I was incorrect it reinstalled it
[16:09] <rgb-one> rgb-one: just use dpkg -r to remove it completely I think. how did you install it? was it from the official repositories or was it the .deb file from dropbox.com?
[16:10] <ki7mt> kokut, I would say not, your talking about downloading ( which is normally associated with browsers ), renaming of files ( normally associated with File Managers ), comparing behaviors to Windows without stating which application, then referring to specific functions in gimp and inscape, so yes, Id' say a bit of clarity is in order.
[16:11] <kokut> ki7mt: okay let me try again, its really simple
[16:12] <kokut> ki7mt: u know when you edit any file while on the ubuntu operating system? imagine you click "save as", a window comes up, and you want to rename a file that was saved before or a folder or delete a file, well, you can't but you can in windows. clear enough?
[16:13] <OerHeks> in windows7 i can't either.
[16:13] <kokut> OerHeks: yes, probably since windows 95 m8
[16:14] <rgb-one> kokut: so what application are you trying to "save as" with?
[16:14] <boogie> I'm back and my problem is fixed!!!!
[16:14] <OerHeks> kokut, it is not an option nor a plugin available, that is how linux works.
[16:15] <kokut> rgb-one: any application while using the ubuntu operating system man, its the same dialog
[16:15] <rgb-one> boogie: hey boogie im not sure it is removed completely.
[16:15] <boogie> oh, ok
[16:15] <kokut> i dont know the name of the freaking window but i used to call it from C# with openFileDialog();
[16:15] <rgb-one> boogie: I think it reinstalled the package
[16:15] <boogie> My cpu is fine now and it is running a lot faster.
[16:15] <boogie> Oh, ok.
[16:16] <ki7mt> kokut, first off, that behavior would be application specific, insofaras, "Files" for the Untiy destop, or Gedit or Gimp or whatever app, they may not all use the same functionality or configure it the behavior the same way.
[16:16] <rgb-one> you should be able to remove it with sudo apt-get purge nautilus-dropbox
[16:16] <boogie> k one sec
[16:17] <boogie> Purged
[16:17] <boogie> Thank you
[16:17] <gioankminh> hello
[16:17] <rgb-one> kokut: Ctrl-Shift-S for save as functionality.
[16:17] <gioankminh> i am a new ubuntu
[16:17] <kokut> ki7mt: no man i can guarantee its not application specific, its the same dialog, the "Save as" dialog that lets you browse to the save location and input a file name
[16:17] <rgb-one> kokut: or look in the file menu.
[16:17] <boogie> So when I want to uninstall a program, I should use the purge command?
[16:17] <kokut> rgb-one: you didnt even read the question bro
[16:18] <rgb-one> boogie: yea purge completely removes all files associated with the package from what I understand.
[16:18] <ioria> kokut: i think it's a security measure... if you want to save you don't want to delete
[16:18] <rgb-one> kokut: I did but it seems I do not understand.
[16:18] <kokut> ioria: well i can in windows
[16:18] <ki7mt> kokut, I can guarantee you it is not. But that's and for "files" the FM for Untiy, it does not carry this functionality as a user configurable item.
[16:19] <ioria> kokut: indeed :-P
[16:19] <kokut> ioria: its extremely useful for me, i use that functionality all the time
[16:19] <rgb-one> kokut: I see what you are saying.
[16:19] <ioria> kokut: you can do two actions in one move, i understand... but
[16:20] <kokut> used to use it when i was on windows, not anymore
[16:20] <OerHeks> kokut, open an extra filemanager for that purpose.
[16:20] <rgb-one> kokut: well most Ubuntu applications depend on the Gtk applications
[16:20] <rgb-one> kokut: so it is dependent on this that this functionality is not available.
[16:21] <xotelon> aesb
[16:21] <xotelon> aebbeabeadfbabdrtb
[16:21] <ki7mt> kokut, If you want to command line it, there are probably more that a dozen ways, if not more, to do what your asking, aside from that, those actions would be features to each application being used.
[16:21] <kokut> i just think ubuntu or any other linux distro for that matter should add this functionality
[16:22] <kokut> i used to use it all the freaking time man just cant do it and it drives me nuts
[16:22] <ki7mt> kokut, My recommendation this, is to file a bug as a feature request, but I would more pleasant in asking if you want them to consider it.
[16:22] <kokut> like, why do i have to open a new nautilus windows and navigate to who knows how many nested folders just to change a file name if i'm right there trying to save another file and i can see the file and click on it?
[16:23] <kokut> in windows i would even press F2 and rename it right there
[16:23] <kokut> or press del
[16:23] <rgb-one> kokut: I think qt or kde applications offer this functionality
[16:24] <kokut> rgb-one: i dont like the idea of having to switch to KDE just for this
[16:24] <seth-666> hello i want to replace the default sound applications installed. what is the best one? can you give me a tip ? somebody ?
[16:24] <ki7mt> kokut, the sooner you come to terms with, Linux is not Windows, the better off you'll be. It is not, and never will be Windows.
[16:24] <ioria> kokut: try some alternative file manager...
[16:25] <rgb-one> kokut: Im not certain it does but I think I have some memory of doing this before.
[16:25] <jParkton> or terminal
[16:25] <kokut> ki7mt: i know m8 i havent used windows for years now
[16:25] <jParkton> simple to rename in there
[16:25] <seth-666> any ideas ?
[16:26] <rgb-one> seth-666: there are numerous audio applications.
[16:26] <kokut> ioria: i like nautilus its just that thing, might try another one tho
[16:26] <ioria> kokut: dolphin, maybe, i don't really know
[16:26] <kokut> i just think its really silly that it doesnt provide this functionality
[16:26] <xotelon> hi
[16:26] <seth-666> tell me one
[16:26] <seth-666> that you think is good
[16:26] <seth-666> pls
[16:27] <ki7mt> kokut, The best I could suggest here is, research the available file managers for the functionality you looking for. I do not know, of one off the top of my head, any FM's that behave the way your describing, not to say it does not exist.
[16:27] <olegb> kokut: I bet that the GTK folks would be happy to look at a patch ... if you made one ..
[16:27] <rgb-one> kokut: it has nothing to do with nautilus I dont think. all gnome applictions use the default gnome2 dialog or the gtk3 dialog.
[16:28] <jParkton> desiring a feature attribute != ability to program and implement
[16:28] <kokut> olegb: k, might take a look into it if i have time
[16:28] <OerHeks> !media | seth-666
[16:28] <OerHeks> i use clementine
[16:28] <olegb> kokut: cool !
[16:28] <jParkton> there needs to be a feature suggestion on package sites in my opinion
[16:28] <ki7mt> kokut, here's four to start off with: https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/773120-4-excellent-alternative-graphical-linux-file-managers
[16:29] <jParkton> OerHeks: I <3 clementine
[16:29] <seth-666> no no
[16:29] <ki7mt> kokut, and a few more: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/daily-5-5-alternative-file-managers
[16:29] <seth-666> gnome app
[16:29] <seth-666> not codec
[16:30] <jParkton> seth-666: what? Like replace the default sound apps?
[16:30] <OerHeks> seth-666, yes yes it is there
[16:30] <kokut> ty guys i might try one o those or make a patch for GTK, i'm back to work
[16:31] <seth-666> yes
[16:31] <seth-666> replace
[16:31] <OerHeks> seth-666, after install, go to systemsettings > details > default applications and set it there
[16:32] <FrameFever> can I ask here about ubuntu smartphone?
[16:32] <OerHeks> FrameFever, better ask in #ubuntu-touch
[16:33] <TMavica> excuse me. i got a problem when install ubuntu, it said dont detect any operating system
[16:34] <TMavica> when installing
[16:34] <TMavica> I got windows 7
[16:34] <jParkton> ok?
[16:34] <jParkton> not anymore?
[16:34] <ki7mt> kokut, fare warning, even if you find a file manager that has the behavior your after, does not mean it will transcend to a particular application.
[16:34] <kokut> ki7mt: man stop it with that i already told you its the same dialog
[16:35] <kokut> in windows .NET C# is OpenFIleDIalog();
[16:35] <ki7mt> kokut, If that's what you believe, so be it, but it's not.
[16:35] <kokut> ki7mt: just prove it
[16:35] <kokut> its the "Save As" dialog i'm talking about
[16:36] <ki7mt> kokut, I've tried to be nice here, but I'm not going down the rat hole with you on this. We'll just have to agree to disagree .. ok ..
[16:37] <OerHeks> kokut, maybe it looks like the same filedialog, but it is not an ( i guess will not be) an option during save-file. i cannot do that it under windows 7 either.
[16:37] <kokut> OerHeks: holy **** man are u kidding me
[16:37] <kokut> http://goo.gl/ImcDp5
[16:38] <kokut> its not that one but its the same interface
[16:38] <kokut> this one http://goo.gl/fgSauv
[16:39] <TMavica> any help of this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10845592/
[16:39] <allstarsnorks2> Hi. How do I upgrade my Linux kernel in Ubuntu 12.04.4 to 4.0?
[16:40] <deadmund> allstarsnorks2: Read this whole thing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[16:40] <ki7mt> Or wait for 15.04 and upgrade :-)
[16:40] <OerHeks> allstarsnorks2, not, there is no version for 12.04 http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[16:41] <ioria> kokut : konqueror is also for win... so it "should" behave like explorer ... so you can try with it .. but it needs some kde libs... be warned
[16:41] <allstarsnorks2> then what is the latest kernel for 12.04
[16:41] <deadmund> allstarsnorks2: OerHeks: I'm sure you can compile your own kernel (or get a binary of the newer kernel) and try it out manually.
[16:41] <deadmund> allstarsnorks2: Maybe read the documentation in the link I sent you.
[16:42] <jp_hranice> Hallo. I miss persistence test in LiveSesion TestCase on Testing Tracker. What is wrong?
[16:42] <kokut> ioria: ty, i might try it but i'm a lil bit short on time atm so i will have to put it on hold for a while
[16:42] <OerHeks> TMavica, let windows make the freespace to install ubuntu.
[16:43] <OerHeks> !install
[16:43] <ki7mt> allstarsnorks2, a simple check for your distro: apt-cache search linux-headers- |tail -1
[16:43] <TMavica> OerHeks: you mean shrink a partition?
[16:43] <OerHeks> TMavica, yes
[16:43] <ki7mt> allstarsnorks2, That would list what's in the repo of course.
[16:44] <kristofers> Hi
[16:44] <ki7mt> allstarsnorks2, or better yet, use image rather than the headers: apt-cache search linux-image- |tail -1
[16:45] <TMavica> OerHeks: how much size i need mostly?
[16:45] <grill> hey. you need a key to perform an RSYNC between two computrons, right?
[16:46] <OerHeks> TMavica, 50 Gb would do, 100 is better when you want enough space for data and such
[16:46] <kristofers> Can anyone explain this
[16:46] <OerHeks> instgall takes +- 8 gb or so
[16:46] <ki7mt> grill, depends, but over SSH you'll need a UN/PW or use keys
[16:46] <OerHeks> *install
[16:46] <michcio> hi there!
[16:46] <TMavica> ok
[16:47] <grill> yeah. i thought so
[16:47] <ki7mt> grill, If it's an anonymous open server on the Inet or something, then no.
[16:47] <TMess_> hey guys... I needed some ideas for a CS(Computer Science) based project ... was tthinking of doing something in Ubuntu.... any ideas?
[16:48] <kristofers> http://oi58.tinypic.com/2pys0b7.jpg
[16:48] <grill> ki7mt what would my rsync syntax need to look like to upload some data over rsync then?
[16:48] <OerHeks> TMess_, open softwarecenter and look in the science section
[16:48] <kristofers> This happens when installing some packages..
[16:48] <michcio> I have a bit of a problem with my Xorg+nvidia combination.
[16:49] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuScience
[16:49] <kristofers> :(
[16:49] <ki7mt> grill, see man rsync .. but rsync -avr .. .. .. from Man: rsync [OPTION...] SRC... [DEST]
[16:49] <grill> no matching hostkey found
[16:49] <grill> ssh_keysign: no reply
[16:50] <grill> key_sign failed
[16:50] <grill> what gives
[16:50] <TMess_> aren't those implemented projects?
[16:50] <michcio> The problem is that *sometimes* my X goes to 100% (for some applications)... it's really frustrating
[16:50] <TMess_> something new would be better
[16:50] <michcio> anyways... I decided to give up on it and instead ask you this:
[16:50] <daly> hi!
[16:50] <TMess_> hi
[16:51] <grill> ki7mt permissions issue?
[16:51] <michcio> What graphics card do you have? I'll gladly buy a new one if someone can tell me that he got it working with no glitches under linux.
[16:51] <ki7mt> grill, Look into using ssh-keyscan
[16:52] <ki7mt> grill, something like: ssh-keyscan -t rsa client machine >> /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
[16:52] <michcio> anyone?
[16:52] <michcio> I have 'NVIDIA Corporation NV43 [Quadro NVS 440] (rev a2)'
[16:54] <rgb-one> TMess_: look for a problem in your university that Ubuntu could help solve
[16:54] <grill> ki7mt no dice
[16:54] <ki7mt> michcio, Quaddro is a bit overkill for most needs. I wont recommend a brand, but, something that is a year or two older is, IMHO, better as the driver support is more robust.
[16:55] <jParkton> my graphics card works perfectly
[16:55] <michcio> ki7mt: it is, indeed... I don't need quaddro... I just bought the whole box with it inside...
[16:55] <rgb-one> TMess_: I am looking to find some University projects myself for a final project.
[16:56] <ki7mt> grill, Here is a basic how too , have a read see what, if anything you've omitted: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-copy-files-with-rsync-over-ssh
[16:56] <michcio> ki7mt: that's why I thought of buying a different one... it's not expensive... but on the other hand, I'd rather not throw away money on something which will not solve my problem
[16:56] <michcio> jParkton: what do you have?
[16:56] <rgb-one> TMess_: I have Identified one but it is not ubuntu specific
[16:56] <jParkton> Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[16:56] <grill> ki7mt I know how to rsync when a key is in place. however, I don't have a key on this specific machine
[16:56] <jParkton> long name for "Who knows"
[16:57] <michcio> Don't get me wrong... it usually works OK. I'm not even sure it's graphics card that causes the problem. Although... I have no idea what else could make X go crazy
[16:57] <ki7mt> grill, well the key needs to be on the target box as well.
[16:57] <TMess_> @rgb-one.... I'm out of ideas.... actually i'm looking bith ways towards android and ubuntu.... but can't seem to find project possible enough for summer yet cool enough to be approved
[16:57] <grill> ki7mt I thought you said it was possible to rsync files anonymously?
[16:57] <ki7mt> michcio, I would would go with last year or before model, and check the various supported hardware lists, there's lots of them.
[16:57] <rgb-one> TMess_: No worries with the right conditions the idea will arise :)
[16:57] <jParkton> I have been running this laptop for 3 years almost and never an issue
[16:58] <jParkton> although I run Kubuntu
[16:58] <ki7mt> grill, It is, if the server is setup to accept it, but most are not.
[16:58] <michcio> ki7mt: yeah... they all seem to indicate that there is no card which is fully supported ;)
[16:58] <grill> ki7mt and the output I'm receiving suggest this server is *NOT* set up to receive it, correcT?
[16:58] <ki7mt> grill, "If" being the operative term, they server admins need to allow / configure for it.
[16:58] <TMess_> @rgb-one only it has to in the next 2 weeks
[16:58] <jParkton> operative/conditional
[16:59] <misfit1> where would I go to ask questions about clementine music player?
[16:59] <jParkton> depends on the q
[16:59] <rgb-one> TMess_: Anything lacking at your university?
[16:59] <ki7mt> michcio, "Fully" is an absolute term and very subjective to the tests used, but for say Desktop use, or general gaming etc, many are "well" supported, but maybe not "fully" :-)
[17:00] <misfit1> jParkton, a question about the internet services it uses
[17:00] <allstarsnorks2> The newest Linux 4.0 is a tar.xz and the tutorials on the internet are for .tar.bz2 and .tar.gz. Need a little help here.
[17:00] <jParkton> ok
[17:00] <jParkton> go for it
[17:00] <ki7mt> grill, jsut a guess, but I would say not.
[17:00] <rgb-one> TMess_: anything that can be improved? Anything is the keyword here.
[17:00] <jParkton> allstarsnorks2: same thing really
[17:00] <jason__> TMess_ if possible, I would say try to find an existing project and add a cool (significant) feature to it rather than start from scratch.
[17:00] <OerHeks> allstarsnorks2, not supported for your version of ubuntu.
[17:00] <jParkton> same command tar -xvf someFile.tar.xxx
[17:00] <michcio> ki7mt: I'd go with: 'better supported than the one I have'... I mostly need a text editor ;)
[17:01] <rgb-one> jason__: good suggestion
[17:01] <misfit1> jParkton, is there way to add a service not included by default?
[17:01] <grill> ki7mt is there any way for me to verify this from my side of the fence?
[17:01] <michcio> I'm not doing any gaming or anything fancy
[17:02] <ki7mt> allstarsnorks2, UBuntu has a specific method of implementing Kernels, you may want to ask in #ubuntu-kernel, but here's the Linky: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[17:02] <TMess_> jason__ , rgb-one Have you ever worked on something... Maybe a reference would help
[17:02] <jParkton> misfit1: like what? Just a broadvcast stream or a login /password site
[17:02] <misfit1> jParkton, a broadcast stream
[17:02] <ki7mt> grill, It appears you just did. If your syntax is correct and it failed, most likely not.
[17:03] <ki7mt> michcio, Like I said, go with one of the Big-Box store brands, a year or two old, should be fairly stable.
[17:03] <jParkton> misfit1: mine says "Ctrl + O"
[17:03] <grill> ki7mt thanks mang
[17:03] <michcio> ki7mt: ok, thanks... will try :)
[17:03] <jParkton> open a stream
[17:04] <jason__> TMess_, I haven't really committed to any Ubuntu projects. But if you've used Ubuntu, maybe you've seen a feature that is lacking in a certain piece of software?
[17:05] <TMess_> hmm... true
[17:05] <OerHeks> !contribute
[17:07] <OerHeks> TMess_, start with a launchpad account to join teams and mailinglists.
[17:07] <misfit1> jParkton, well that suficed for adding the stream however attempting to use the stream generates quite a long list of "Your GStreamer installation is missing a plug-in."
[17:07] <misfit1> jParkton, and only that
[17:07] <knojoko> How can some like me who only has A+, N+ and a passion for ubuntu be involved in Ubuntu projects and perhaps learn?
[17:08] <OerHeks> misfit1, known issue, WMA > http://askubuntu.com/questions/456072/clementine-wont-play-wma-with-your-gstreamer-installation-is-missing-a-plugi
[17:08] <jParkton> misfit1: you need codecs
[17:08] <Dragonkeeper> hey guys, having a little trouble settign up nvidia drivers with cuda support
[17:08] <kristofers> Can anyone explain why the characters are changed in to so non sense ?
[17:08] <kristofers> http://oi58.tinypic.com/2pys0b7.jpg
[17:08] <ki7mt> grill, here's quicky example of how the anon rsync would go: http://books.gigatux.nl/mirror/linuxcookbook/0596006403/linuxckbk-CHP-16-SECT-6.html
[17:09] <kristofers> it happens when runnning apt-get
[17:09] <grill> thanks!
[17:09] <misfit1> jParkton, well that's an issue.
[17:09] <jParkton> kristofers: because you are attempting to read a compiled program?
[17:09] <OerHeks> kristofers, odd font for normale use
[17:09] <jParkton> misfit1: did you 'apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[17:09] <ki7mt> grill, note, the web-server and www/public
[17:10] <misfit1> jParkton, yep
[17:10] <kristofers> -.-
[17:10] <kristofers> not sure what to say lol
[17:10] <grill> ki7mt this seems to only mention anon downloads + password protected uploads
[17:11] <jParkton> misfit1: the only time that should happen is when trying to play wma
[17:11] <OerHeks> misfit1, jParkton wma is not included in restricted-extras
[17:11] <jParkton> is this a wma link?
[17:11] <jParkton> OerHeks: I am aware
[17:11] <ki7mt> grill, but the meaning is, the server msut be configured for Anon access, I'll find you a better example.
[17:11] <grill> ki7mt sure. i got you
[17:13] <misfit1> OerHeks, so how do I add wma support?
[17:13] <OerHeks> misfit1, scroll back please
[17:13] <grill> ki7mt don't worry about it for now. i'm just going to have the system admin give me ssh acces
[17:13] <ki7mt> grill, http://everythinglinux.org/rsync/ .. however, think about what your asking, anyone could rysnc anything .. that's a huge security risk, if the server is not jailed or the files isolated.
[17:13] <jParkton> misfit1: clementine will not play wmas, there are other players that will
[17:14] <misfit1> jParkton, oh ok. thanks
[17:14] <ki7mt> grill, SSH access is the best route, particularly for security
[17:14] <grill> ki7mt yeah i know. we're being lazy / are only doing this on a local network
[17:15] <ki7mt> grill, If its a local "isolated" LAN and you trust everyone on it, that's a bit different.
[17:15] <OerHeks> jParkton, wrong.
[17:15] <OerHeks> only vlc might do that, with its own codecs
[17:15] <jParkton> Thank you for that insight, might I require about what I was wrong or do you want to leave it there
[17:16] <ki7mt> grill, ALl you'd need to do is configure the server properly at that point, and give everyone the server url
[17:16] <ioria> with w32codecs you can't do that ?
[17:16] <grill> ye
[17:16] <Dragonkeeper> trying to build the nvidia cuda samples but i get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/10845810/
[17:16] <jParkton> I guess not
[17:16] <ioria> pity
[17:17] <jParkton> well thank you anyway for that bit of uselessness
[17:18] <jParkton> actually misfit1 run this and clementine should handle them "sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-plugins-good gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly gstreamer1.0-libav"
[17:19] <ki7mt> Dragonkeeper, I would as the NV gurus, but .. recipe for target 'cudaDecodeGL' failed .. could be coused by any number of things, libs, configuration, compilers, their code etc.
[17:19] <ki7mt> .. ask ..
[17:19] <OerHeks> Dragonkeeper, last answer i think >> https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/769578/cuda-6-5-cannot-find-lnvcuvid/
[17:20] <Dragonkeeper> hmm ill try
[17:21] <ki7mt> OerHeks, Yes, but, that -lnvcuvid may be a lib that was supposed to be built with the package .. doesn't mean is a build-dep package
[17:23] <Dragonkeeper> OerHeks: ki7mt: that last answer didnt work , but the /usr/lib/nvidia-349 has the lib there . :S
[17:23] <ki7mt> Dragonkeeper, also note: ldconfig deals only with runtime libraries, whereas ld deals with build-time libraries .. so
[17:24] <Dragonkeeper> just running make , its there code
[17:24] <openhatch_0464> hi..
[17:24] <ki7mt> So -L option to gcc or ld in order to tell it where the build-time symlink is. this is why I say it may be a build script issue, but only guessing ehre.
[17:26] <misfit1> jParkton, doesn't do anything
[17:26] <ki7mt> Dragonkeeper, I'm assuming you have the CUDA SDK installed ? if not, may be a good place to start.
[17:26] <Dragonkeeper> ki7mt: i have the toolkit
[17:28] <ki7mt> Dragonkeeper, Have you went through this, starting at section (2): http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-getting-started-guide-for-linux/index.html#axzz3XgOttPPA
[17:30] <jParkton> misfit1: try http://askubuntu.com/questions/456072/clementine-wont-play-wma-with-your-gstreamer-installation-is-missing-a-plugi
[17:31] <jParkton> first link on google search "clementine play wma"
[17:31] <Dragonkeeper> ki7mt: looking
[17:32] <ki7mt> Dragonkeeper, It's a fare bit of configuration, and it's OS/ARCH specific, so, how-to's found elsewhere may yield unexpected results on varying machines.
[17:34] <OerHeks> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mc3man/trusty-media && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg # and restart your mediaplayer
[17:34] <Dragonkeeper> ki7mt: yh pretty much , im basically at 6.2.1
[17:34] <misfit1> jParkton, installed but doesn't anything
[17:35] <ki7mt> YeeHaa .. Ubunty Snappy is Happy on my Pi2 .. just thought Is share that.
[17:35] * Dragonkeeper wants ubuntu snappy on his rpi2 lol
[17:35] <jParkton> misfit1: what is the link you are trying to add?
[17:36] <ki7mt> Dragonkeeper, I would go through it fully, as your clearly missing a lib link wiht the setup your using, why could be any number of reasons.
[17:37] <misfit1> jParkton, the solution provided in the first answer
[17:37] <fu_metaleer> in reference to metaleer:
he takes stuff on irc pretty personally, so he will actually feel legit upset over being targeted
[17:38] <fu_metaleer> hahahahahhah
[17:38] <jParkton> misfit1: I mean the stream link you are trying to add to clementine
[17:44] <Ricky_Rat5005> Trying to load Ubuntu on PC and getting ?????? when I try to install it (at the section where it's going to partition and format the drive. Any suggestions?
[17:45] <misfit1> jParkton, http://www.iheart.com/live/radio-1045-3401/
[17:45] <Dragonkeeper> ki7mt: i might have fixed it ...
[17:46] <Dragonkeeper> ki7mt: i kept the lib path as /usr/local/cuda-7.0/ but in there i added a symlink to the /usr/lib/nvidia-349 dir for the lib i needed
[17:49] <jParkton> misfit1: that is not a wma file that is a radio station on iheart
[17:51] <q1aa> Is there a way I can change the double-click frequency of each mouse button separately? My middle-button keeps doing multiple clicks for each push, but my left and right mouse buttons are fine. Is there a way to keep the left and right mouse buttons exactly the same, while putting the middle-button double-click frequency down to 1ms so it'll never double click? Is there a command line trick?
[17:52] <Dragonkeeper> http://media-ice.musicradio.com/GoldMP3 best internet radio :)
[17:52] <jParkton> clementine even better
[17:52] <ki7mt> Dragonkeeper, Ok, that's good, somewhere there is a mis stp though, shouldnt' have to do. Maybe, it just dawned on me, there is an update-alternates step missing you you have two locations for libs
[17:53] <alteregoa> hello ubuntuanians
[17:53] * Dragonkeeper nods
[17:53] <alteregoa> cq ubuntu
[17:53] <ki7mt> .-. .-.
[17:54] <alteregoa> .- ... .-.
[17:54] <ki7mt> - -, -,,-
[17:54] <alteregoa> .... . .-.. .-.. --- / ..- -... ..- -. - ..-
[17:54] <ki7mt> Ok, we better stop, or we'll get nailed for OT :-)
[17:55] <alteregoa> i need to know something about everything and everything about something
[17:55] <Dragonkeeper> ki7mt: there must be something wrong , it all compiled fine but i <IP_ADDRESS> fails
[17:55] <alteregoa> someone tried to compile the kernel using -o3 with GCC 5?
[17:56] <misfit1> jParkton, which makes this issue all the weirder
[17:56] <alteregoa> well i want to run the flying spaghetti monster on my machine, i need a fast kernel
[17:57] <ki7mt> Dragonkeeper, we're probably OT on this one also, but what's the failure/
[17:57] <Dragonkeeper> cudaGetDeviceCount returned 38
[17:57] <Dragonkeeper> -> no CUDA-capable device is detected
[17:57] <Dragonkeeper> Result = FAIL
[18:00] <Dragonkeeper> ki7mt: NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module 349.16 and lspci says Kernel driver in use: nvidia
[18:01] <CRPL> Hello. I have installed Ubuntu 14.04 (mate). I deleted the entire drive with Windows and replaced it with Ubuntu installation. The problem is that my other 2 hdds that are in hardware raid0, appear in Ubuntu as two separate drives, and Ubuntu gives the error of unable to mount them.
[18:02] <CRPL> Any ideas on how to fix the Raid0 drives ?
[18:02] <CRPL> (mounts)
[18:02] <nadrosima> hello friends!
[18:04] <alteregoa> yes
[18:04] <Ricky_Rat5005> Hi, what does it mean when I get an error with a buch of ? marks when trying to install Ubuntu?
[18:04] <alteregoa> CRPL do you use those two drives as raid0 under windows with proprietary drivers?
[18:05] <CRPL> I dont have windows anymore on the PC, but the drivers were the default ones ...
[18:05] <nadrosima> Ricky_Rat5005: which error
[18:05] <CRPL> It is a hardware raid, not a software one
[18:05] <alteregoa> you use the bios raid0 function?
[18:06] <CRPL> yes
[18:06] <alteregoa> CRPL, so do you use NTFS as filesystem in windows?
[18:06] <CRPL> And the raid interface of the mainboard tells me that the raid is up and ready
[18:07] <CRPL> alteregoa: I think that they were NTFS
[18:07] <CRPL> but the problem is that there are now two separate drives .. so Ubuntu does not even see the raid0
[18:07] <CRPL> http://imgur.com/zunJkCI - ss
[18:07] <alteregoa> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[18:07] <alteregoa> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[18:07] <alteregoa> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[18:07] <alteregoa> do you have ntfs3g installed?
[18:07] <alteregoa> damn xchat sorry
[18:08] <CRPL> Ill check that out now
[18:08] <alteregoa> then you need to do: fdisk -l
[18:08] <nadrosima> or df -h
[18:09] <CRPL> I have ntfs-3g installed, I'm checking disks now
[18:09] <james71> ciao
[18:09] <CRPL> http://pastebin.com/AZB8wDhj
[18:09] <james71> "!list"
[18:10] <Ricky_Rat5005> nadrosima - That's all I get is ? marks when it's time to partition and format. No other error, just ? marks.
[18:11] <alteregoa> CRPL, is there any drive in /dev/mapper
[18:11] <CRPL> just "control"
[18:11] <nadrosima> yor hard drive(s) is blank or not ?
[18:12] <nadrosima> yor = your
[18:12] <CRPL> No, they have some data
[18:12] <nadrosima> if not equal cant mount and use
[18:12] <Ricky_Rat5005> nadrosima - it was a Windows box prior but I put the drives into a raid 1 which should have erased everything.
[18:12] <james71> ciao
[18:12] <james71> !list
[18:13] <alteregoa> dmraid -ay -vvv -d
[18:13] <CRPL> nadrosima: the drives were made raid0 on windows
[18:13] <CRPL> and they worked as raid0
[18:13] <CRPL> so the raid0 is ok
[18:14] <CRPL> But a little info I forgot to tell you is that I installed Ubuntu with both drives removed
[18:14] <alteregoa> CRPL that doesnt' matter
[18:14] <nadrosima> Raid mode on first installation ! None if you want use raid mode change raid x for installation
[18:14] <nadrosima> otherwise cant read and write
[18:15] <nadrosima> some index and block bridged via motherbord
[18:15] <alteregoa> the raid0 is not the root partition nadrosima
[18:15] <CRPL> nadrosima: I don't understand what you are saying. The raid was raid0 on windows and worked, and now I plugged in the drivers after Ubuntu install
[18:15] <CRPL> I don't want to change anything on the drives.
[18:15] <ki7mt> Dragonkeeper, I dont a bunch of reading, but Im not seeing where this issue may be.
[18:15] <alteregoa> CRPL what chipset do you hav?
[18:15] <CRPL> oh ..
[18:16] <alteregoa> motherboard
[18:16] <CRPL> let me check that
[18:16] <nadrosima> CPL clear now undorstood
[18:16] <ki7mt> Dragonkeeper, done a bunch ..
[18:16] <nadrosima> can you see drivers on linux ?
[18:16] <CRPL> Intel® H97 Express Chipset
[18:17] <CRPL> Yes, the both drives appear as separate drives
[18:17] <CRPL> not as raid0
[18:17] <Dragonkeeper> ki7mt: starting again
[18:17] <CRPL> And when I double click on them I get > ~Unable to mount location. Can't mount file~
[18:17] <nadrosima> sfdisk -l
[18:18] <nadrosima> try
[18:18] <CRPL> nothing happend
[18:18] <nadrosima> se is disks alive on system
[18:18] <EriC^^> CRPL: type fdisk -l
[18:18] <CRPL> nothing echoed from terminal
[18:18] <nadrosima> sfdisk -l
[18:19] <Trindaz> What app can I use to check all directories on a volume to find out which ones are the biggest?
[18:19] <alteregoa> sudo fdisk -l
[18:19] <nadrosima> sfdisk -l show un munted
[18:19] <nadrosima> mounted
[18:19] <CRPL> Wait to pastebin it
[18:19] <Ricky_Rat5005> nadrosima - Did you see my response?
[18:19] <EriC^^> Trindaz: du -x /path/to/dir/* | sort -n
[18:19] <EriC^^> Trindaz: du -sx /path/to/dir/* | sort -n
[18:19] <Trindaz> thanks EriC^^
[18:20] <CRPL> nadrosima: http://pastebin.com/Enfiij6J
[18:21] <alteregoa> install dmraid package
[18:21] <andy__> Hola
[18:21] <andy__> Hola
[18:22] <alteregoa> sudo apt-get install dmraid
[18:22] <CRPL> Installed it
[18:22] <andy__> como añadir fondos de escritorio en xfce¿?
[18:22] <k1l> !es | andy__
[18:22] <alteregoa> sudo dmraid -s
[18:23] <Ricky_Rat5005> Hi, I am getting an error consisting of ONLY ? marks when I try to install Ubuntu. Any suggestions on what I can do to fix this please?
[18:23] <andy__> sorry..
[18:23] <CRPL> alteregoa: http://pastebin.com/yXGq0icC
[18:23] <andy__> :D
[18:23] <alteregoa> ok now mount that
[18:24] <CRPL> ... :)) .. how ? (sorry for being a noob)
[18:24] <nadrosima> CRPL: you want use raid mode ?
[18:25] <CRPL> It is allready configured as hardware raid0
[18:25] <alteregoa> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/mapper/isw_bffdifadf_Volume1 /media/yourmountdir
[18:25] <nadrosima> if not : remove pair make dir and use fstab for manual mounting
[18:25] <CRPL> ntfs-3g: Failed to access volume '/dev/mapper/isw_bffdifadf_Volume1': No such file or directory
[18:25] <nadrosima> mount first
[18:26] <CRPL> on ls /dev/mapper, is it still just ”control” directory
[18:26] <CRPL> That error is on mounting
[18:26] <nadrosima> you got 2 disk with raid mode
[18:26] <alteregoa> sudo dmraid -ay
[18:27] <nadrosima> some system files and sector types not equal Win to Linux
[18:27] <nadrosima> remove pair (so use only one) and mount manualy
[18:27] <CRPL> Volume dosent seem to be NTFS
[18:28] <CRPL> ( The device '/dev/mapper/isw_bffdifadf_Volume1' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS. )
[18:28] <alteregoa> its ZFS? microsoft aquired oracle?
[18:28] <sharksforarms> Hey, so I changed my gnome-terminal background and now the output from grep with the --color=auto flag is unreadable... Is there a way to change this? http://i.imgur.com/9S0MKkJ.png
[18:28] <CRPL> alteregoa: no ... just hardware raid0
[18:28] <CRPL> on the motherboard's chipset
[18:29] <neldogz> Is there a way to enable file snapshots on Ubuntu 14 like on Windows 7 desktop and server platforms?
[18:29] <alteregoa> normally dmraid -ay starts dmraid, and the drives appear in /dev/mapper
[18:29] <CRPL> alteregoa: oh
[18:29] <CRPL> Now I see that ~New Volume~ is mounted
[18:29] <CRPL> And is my raid0
[18:29] <CRPL> It auto-mounted it
[18:29] <alteregoa> fascinating
[18:30] <q1aa> does anyone know how to change the double-click frequency of each button separately in ubuntu? I want to set my middle-button so low that it can never double click.
[18:30] <CRPL> alteregoa: thank you
[18:30] <CRPL> Now is there a way to hide the drives from ~Computer~ ?
[18:30] <CRPL> (the drives that are in raid0)
[18:32] <alteregoa> well CRPL i have the same problem with 18HDD running as BTRFS array in ubuntu, can't make them disappearing
[18:32] <CRPL> Oh, just deal with it >D
[18:32] <CRPL> :D
[18:33] <CRPL> Now the raid0 will auto-mount at each startup, right ?
[18:33] <alteregoa> no
[18:33] <alteregoa> not at all
[18:33] <alteregoa> but you can add it into the fstab
[18:33] <CRPL> And is there a way to make it auto-mount ?
[18:33] <nadrosima> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ learn id create dir mount with fstab
[18:34] <EriC^^> CRPL: add the option auto
[18:34] <CRPL> I'm thinking that it auto-mounted it after ~sudo dmraid -ay~
[18:34] <EriC^^> at the end of the options
[18:35] <CRPL> I have a feeling that I will be coming back for mounting info, but untill than, thank you all for helping me.
[18:36] <CRPL> Wonderful community.
[18:36] <sharksforarms> nvm about my question, just modified the gnome-terminal profile
[18:36] <CRPL> *ultill then
[18:38] <CRPL> Oh, and a side question. Is there any way that the download on Ubuntu is a little bit slower than on Windows ?
[18:39] <ki7mt> neldogz, there are many ways to "snapshot" images, files folder, a simple, scriptable method is to use rsync. see: man rsync
[18:39] <OerHeks> CRPL, depends on the host i guess, i find ubuntu faster due to the lack of anoying antivirus
[18:40] <CRPL> I'm testing now on http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.10/ubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:40] <neldogz> ki7mt, I am familiar with rsync but I guess I am more interested in some kind of versioning control system where I could right click on a file and select revert or restore previous file
[18:40] <OerHeks> use torrents if you can
[18:40] <nadrosima> dont jum release use stable
[18:40] <CRPL> And the speed is bouncing a little bit (from 10 mb/s to 50 mb/s .. back down .. etc.)
[18:40] <nadrosima> jum = jump
[18:41] <CRPL> No, I'm testing the download on that .iso
[18:41] <CRPL> I am no running that distro
[18:41] <ki7mt> neldogz, I was going to say, there is also a GUI for is, Grsync. VCS a fare bit different in nature, it works well for many things.
[18:47] <neldogz> So nothing really that uses a shadow copy style of storing versions of files equivalent for linux?
[18:47] <rypervenche> neldogz: http://serverfault.com/questions/231073/linux-equivalent-for-windows-shadow-copies
[18:48] <rypervenche> neldogz: I would recommend taking differential backups.
[18:48] <rypervenche> neldogz: I take a backup every night, then using rsync and hard links, I create a new backup the next night that creates hard links between each backup directory.
[18:49] <neldogz> rypervenche, I am currently doing the same. Followed this article: http://revelify.com/?p=132
[18:50] <neldogz> Was hoping there was something I could right-click on a file and restore.. i guess rsync and hardlinks will work for now
[18:51] <xrosnight> hello
[18:52] <ki7mt> neldogz, I guess it depends on what your looking for, true VCS with eh ability to revert / restore easily, or a true volume level snapshot tool.
[18:52] <specing> Hi, how can I get an ssh server running on an ubuntu live/install CD?
[18:52] <neldogz> ki7mt, yes, In the end what matters is that i can revert back to a specific version of a file
[18:52] <neldogz> matters most *
[18:52] <rypervenche> neldogz: That one is doesn't use hard links, so you're copying all of the data each time.
[18:53] <SchrodingersScat> !info openssh-server | specing, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[18:53] <rypervenche> neldogz: Also, LVM snapshots may be the way you want to go. It will restore EVERYTHING.
[18:53] <Headknot> spacing: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html
[18:53] <Headknot> specing: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html
[18:53] <Jakey2> does anyone have any ideas for this problem
[18:53] <Jakey2> http://pastie.org/10100299
[18:53] <ki7mt> neldogz, Well, maybe a VCS is a better route then, there are several VCS GUI based tools that could do the work, here is a brief overview of a few: http://guides.beanstalkapp.com/version-control/clients.html
[18:54] <neldogz> rypervenche, doens't the cp -al create a hardlink or am I mistaken?
[18:54] <athan> Hey folks, System Monitor is telling me that Firefox's CPU usage is set to "disk sleep" - how do I wake it up? (it's currently frozen(
[18:54] <athan> )*
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> !details | Jakey2
[18:54] <xrosnight> hello i can not install ia32-libs in ubuntu 12.04 x64. here's the error log. http://pastebin.ca/2976242 many thanks! I want to install ia32-libs
[18:54] <neldogz> ki7mt, thanks for that!
[18:54] <rypervenche> neldogz: Oh, my apologies. I hadn't seen the cp command there.
[18:55] <athan> I would google it, but... you know?
[18:55] <athan> it's asleep ._.
[18:55] <neldogz> rypervenche, I have to agree with you this does work pretty well.. I think Ill just stick with it.
[18:55] <rypervenche> neldogz: Use what works best for you :)
[18:55] <ki7mt> neldogz, and yes, cp -rla should recursively cp hard-links
[18:56] <OerHeks> xrosnight, that is the old way, ubuntu is multiarch, just add <package.deb>:i386
[18:58] <xrosnight> OerHeks: I am still using ubuntu12.04 now. and i need ia32-libs. I added a PPA of gcc 4.9 but that make the ia32-libs on ubuntu 12.04 x64 be removed. I want 'ia32-libs' back.
[18:58] <TheNumb> xrosnight: ia32-libs are gone.
[18:59] <ki7mt> neldogz, Also, BZR Explorer for bzr based VCS http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/explorer/en/
[18:59] <xrosnight> TheNumb: yeah but I am using ubuntu 12.04 x64 for now. there should be ia32-libs on 12.04
[19:00] <xrosnight> TheNumb: http://pastebin.ca/2976242 this is the error log
[19:00] <OerHeks> xrosnight, there isn't anymore, http://askubuntu.com/questions/359156/how-do-you-run-a-32-bit-program-on-a-64-bit-version-of-ubuntu/359184#359184
[19:00] <ki7mt> xrosnight, No quite, that changed in 12.04, it's now: sudo apt-get install package-name:i386 and multi-lib is enabled by default I believe.
[19:01] <readwrite> how do i run a script at start up? i want to start an application on startup
[19:01] <ki7mt> readwrite, with upstart jobs or using the rc.local file
[19:01] <nadrosima> OerHeks: if install a 32 bit app already will be installed requred libs
[19:01] <readwrite> which rc.local fine
[19:01] <readwrite> file
[19:01] <readwrite> there are a few
[19:01] <bekks> !autostart | readwrite
[19:02] <bekks> The is only one /etc/rc.local file
[19:02] <OerHeks> nadrosima, i know
[19:02] <ki7mt> +1 was just typing that about AutoStart ..
[19:02] <neldogz> ki7mt, that looks like a good one!
[19:03] <nadrosima> update rc d "your app" defaults
[19:03] <nadrosima> so mean your app with parameters
[19:03] <ki7mt> neldogz, I like bzr as I dont have to swap things around for Launchpad work. But I use Git and SVN as well.
[19:03] <rypervenche> ki7mt: The -r is redundant in your "cp -rla" command.
[19:03] <ki7mt> Ok
[19:03] <xrosnight> nadrosima: i was trying to install a x86_something.deb on ubuntu12.04 but failed. because lack of i386 dependency
[19:04] <nadrosima> if use system cant install
[19:04] <ki7mt> rypervenche, it was just an example, not ment to be a replacement for reading the man page.
[19:04] <nadrosima> way : instaling 32bit a program you collected 32 bit emulators
[19:05] <OerHeks> x86_something.deb:i386 should work
[19:05] <neldogz> rypervenche, the biggest problem I face with the hard linking is handling virtual machine files.
[19:06] <rypervenche> neldogz: Different with each backup I'm guessing?
[19:06] <neldogz> rypervenche, correct
[19:06] <rypervenche> neldogz: You're going to have that problem with any backup solution you choose.
[19:07] <ki7mt> neldogz, create shares (Samba, SSHFS, etc), somewhere you can access from your main dev box.
[19:07] <neldogz> rypervenche, i was thinking of leaving the VM's out of the backups and backing up only the snapshots
[19:07] <bekks> neldogz: Which gives you nothing. You cannot restore the vms without having them backed up first.
[19:08] <bekks> neldogz: You need to backups your vms too for restoring them.
[19:08] <bekks> -s
[19:08] <neldogz> rypervenche, back them up once.. then only snapshots going forward.. making sure to store all the data on the network which is being backed up using hardlinks
[19:08] <nadrosima> good nigth friends!
[19:09] <bekks> rypervenche: Are you talking about virtualbox snapshots?
[19:09] <neldogz> bekks, yes
[19:10] <bekks> I've implemented a backup solution for my vms, just a few days ago.
[19:10] <neldogz> bekks, what did you use?
[19:10] <bekks> bash, VBoxManage, rsync, rm :)
[19:11] <ki7mt> Originally, the question was about easy revision of / revovery of specific files, not so much complete disk images or VM's
[19:11] <xrosnight> OerHeks: even though when i was trying to install wine , it showed broken packages.. http://pastebin.ca/2976258 ki7mt I did upgrade GCC from PPA before but I removed the latest GCC/PPA ,cleaned the apt cache.
[19:11] <bekks> I'm snapshotting my vms regurlarly, and then running rsync to back them up. Once a week, I merge all snapshots older than 14 days.
[19:12] <xrosnight> i mean later
[19:12] <neldogz> bekks, you merge everything older than 14 days back into the original VM correct?
[19:12] <bekks> Correct. So once a week I am syncing a new base vdi.
[19:13] <specing> Apparently half the maverick repos are 404ing
[19:13] <specing> no ssh server for me.
[19:13] <neldogz> bekks, nice.. you just gave me something to do
[19:13] <bekks> !maverick | specing
[19:13] <ki7mt> xrosnight, one method may be: sudo apt-get autoremove ; sudo apt-get remove wine ; sudo dpkg -p Wine ;sudo apt-get install wine
[19:13] <OerHeks> xrosnight, "Depends: wine1.4" seems like an old exe
[19:13] <OerHeks> :-D
[19:13] <bekks> !eolupgrade | specing
[19:14] <specing> bekks: well... I found this liveCD burried in my drawer
[19:14] <specing> it is amazing, it has rsync but no openssh-server
[19:14] <specing> also apt-cdrom add -d /cdrom
[19:14] <bekks> neldogz: The most interesting part is implementing the creation of snapshots for all vms of all users.
[19:14] <xrosnight> ki7mt: doesnt work :(
[19:15] <ki7mt> xrosnight, can you be more specific, what doesn't work
[19:15] <xrosnight> OerHeks: Yeah. It's old on ubuntu 12.04
[19:15] <BlackHorn> Hey everyone. I was wondering if anyone knows of a way I can create a keyboard shortcut for CTRL+CapsLock to make it trigger enter?
[19:15] <xrosnight> ki7mt: it shows wine : Depends: wine1.4 but it is not going to be installed
[19:15] <xrosnight> ki7mt: and E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[19:15] <ki7mt> xrosnight, the the install after removal .. ok ..
[19:16] <OerHeks> xrosnight, why did you leave out the line what you are trying to install?
[19:16] <xrosnight> ki7mt: i did remove wine many times
[19:17] <ki7mt> xrosnight, well what's being held would be a good place to start: dpkg --get-selections | grep hold
[19:17] <neldogz> bekks, those snapshots must take a long time to merge back in
[19:17] <bekks> neldogz: No, why?
[19:18] <xrosnight> ki7mt: it shows nothing here
[19:18] <xrosnight> ki7mt: but i saw some 'deinstall' there
[19:19] <neldogz> bekks, they took a while for me when I was playing with them. 30 minutes for 1 snapshot
[19:19] <bekks> neldogz: I just started my script, hold on :)
[19:20] <ki7mt> xrosnight, well, I not a wine expert, at least the emulation type :-) .. so was looking at the package a bit at the moment.
[19:20] <neldogz> bekks, cool
[19:21] <xrosnight> ki7mt: thank you anyway! the same problem with 'ia32-libs' here on ubuntu 12.04
[19:22] <ki7mt> xrosnight, only other thign I coauls suggest, before gettign int the /var/lib stuff is to do ; sudo apt-get autoclean $$ apt-get clear cache
[19:23] <ki7mt> xrosnight, I already responded to your issue about ia32-libs on 12.04
[19:23] <OerHeks> maybe 'sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386' causes that wine error
[19:24] <xrosnight> OerHeks: dpkg --version shows <IP_ADDRESS> (amd64). and that dpkg does not have the option '--add-architecture'....
[19:25] <ki7mt> ia21-libs-multiarch is in 12.04 .. but I suspect there's arch / lib conflicts between them and Wine somewhere, or busted source / cache files
[19:26] <bekks> nobrak: Done. Merged snapshots older than 21 days for 6 vms, took 7 minutes.
[19:26] <neldogz> bekks, nice :)
[19:26] <ki7mt> he could try clean ; autoclean ; update ; upgrade then try and get ride of Wine and --reinstall
[19:27] <xrosnight> ki7mt: i think so. there would be some broken packages. i am following this http://askubuntu.com/questions/165951/dpkg-get-selections-shows-packages-marked-deinstall
[19:27] <xrosnight> ki7mt: i did that. but that did not work.
[19:27] <vagelis> προβλημα με το λεξικο ελληνικων στο libre
[19:27] <bekks> !gr | vagelis
[19:27] <ki7mt> xrosnight, Yes, you need to use some pinning as well, but I dont want to fubar you box so wont go there.
[19:28] <xrosnight> ki7mt: damn .. i tried this command... sudo dpkg --purge `dpkg --get-selections | grep deinstall | cut -f1`
[19:28] <xrosnight> my PC nearly got screwed...
[19:30] <ki7mt> xrosnight, be careful using --puge especially if you dont know what it's gonna purge beforehand
[19:30] <ki7mt> .. --purge ..
[19:32] <xrosnight> ki7mt: i believe my computer gonna crash soon... i used --purge a moment ago
[19:34] <ki7mt> xrosnight, well, I'd recommend you make sure your backup is current :-)
[19:35] <xrosnight> ki7mt: data will not be lost. probably i need to upgrade my PC to ubuntu 14.04 or your suggestions
[19:36] <ki7mt> xrosnight, I like to run the latest LTS, but I still have a 12.04 image for regression testing.
[19:38] <xrosnight> ki7mt: that's nice
[19:39] <xrosnight> ki7mt: the reason why i stay with the 12.04 is that i've compiled so many software which ubuntu did not ship.
[19:39] <ki7mt> xrosnight, yeah, but not helping much though .. I really don't have another suggest at the moment.
[19:39] <ki7mt> .. suggestion ..
[19:40] <seth-666> who is playing steam cs 1.6 on ubuntu ?
[19:40] <xrosnight> ki7mt: it's alright. is the 14.04 working well there? I mean stable? the ubuntu 12.04 is more like the stable debian 7.
[19:41] <ki7mt> xrosnight, works great for me.
[19:41] <xrosnight> but recently i tried docker.com and found that only a server with kernel upper than 3.10 is compatible with 'docker'
[19:42] <xrosnight> so i was using the kernel from 14.04 on 12.04 which is little odd.
[19:43] <stacks88> just curious - what makes you guys want to run ubuntu instead of debian? im using ubuntu myself so im just getting opinions is all
[19:44] <xrosnight> stacks88: for desktop . ubuntu's good. for server debian and ubuntu. for new feature, ubutnu.
[19:44] <xrosnight> for stablity i would say debian
[19:45] <stacks88> ah
[19:45] <ki7mt> stacks88, that's like asking why folks by Ferrari v s Lamborghini .. everyone has their on preference .. that's the goodness of Linux
[19:45] <ki7mt> .. own ..
[19:45] <bekks> xrosnight: You mean age, not stability, do you? :)
[19:47] <xrosnight> bekks: debian's releasing patches are very fast
[19:47] <ki7mt> It's well know, Debian is focused on stability and security, but with that comes a price, very slow releases for those that always want the latest and greatest of x,y,z
[19:47] <bekks> xrosnight: As fast as Ubuntu, since Ubuntu uses thedebian upstream.
[19:51] <xrosnight> ki7mt: i agree. one of my project needs postgresql. and we need some extension of it. but the postgresql debian provides is too out of date. we had to compile from source. then we gave that up. it's because the libc of debian wheezy is born out of date. if you replace the libc of debian, you are not taking the advantage of debian. in the end, we chose ubuntu 12.04 for instead. and we are going to migrate to ubuntu 14.04 soon for all
[19:52] <rypervenche> xrosnight: You can get the latest version of postgres from their website. They have repos: http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/debian/
[19:53] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[19:53] <rypervenche> I haven't heard that in a while...
[19:53] <IdleOne> alteregoa: Please control your randomness
[19:54] <alteregoa> /dev/urandom
[19:56] <xrosnight> rypervenche: but if you need some postgresql extensions as well, those extensions must be compiled and sticked with a certain verion of postgresql. even the latest postgresql is not supported. extensions usually be late
[19:56] <IdleOne> Do we really have to go through this every time you join here? Being helpful does not grant you points for being off topic/disruptive.
[19:57] <rypervenche> xrosnight: What version of postgres do you need?
[19:57] <xrosnight> rypervenche: at least 9.1+
[19:58] <xrosnight> but we need the postgis
[19:58] <rypervenche> xrosnight: Ok, so what is the problem then?
[19:59] <xrosnight> rypervenche: http://postgis.net/install
[20:00] <rypervenche> xrosnight: I still don't see what your problem is. Could you please explain?
[20:01] <xrosnight> rypervenche: we tried to deploy on debian but the postgis on debian is out of date. so we took ubuntu for instead.
[20:02] <rypervenche> xrosnight: You can compile it from source, as shown on that page you linked.
[20:03] <xrosnight> rypervenche: we did. but the libc of debian is bit out of date for compiling postgis
[20:05] <rypervenche> xrosnight: I won't argue with that. I know it works with version 2.0, but yeah.
[20:08] <TheBigDeal> Hi
[20:09] <TheBigDeal> Where can i find the 'cernlib' documentation?
[20:09] <IdleOne> http://linux.die.net/man/1/cernlib
[20:11] <Seveas> TheBigDeal: packages usually install their documentation in /usr/share/doc/<packagename> and as manpages in /usr/share/man
[20:11] <ki7mt> It's in the Cern sources tar.gz also
[20:11] <TheBigDeal> hmm
[20:25] <hexafraction> Hi, I am looking for a software recommendation. I am trying to transition to using CAD on Linux, and am looking for something similar to Autodesk Inventor, that supports constraint-based parametric modeling. Could someone recommend a libre application that is similar?
[20:26] <hexafraction> I am already using Blender, but it isn't really ideal for precise mechanical design due to the lack of constraint based modeling as it is designed more for artists
[20:26] <EriC^^> isn't inventor not that good cause it was based on autocad 2d?
[20:27] <bazhang> !equivalents
[20:27] <EriC^^> a coworker used to rant about it all the time
[20:28] <hexafraction> EriC^^: Unfortunately due to the choice and content of classes at my school, Inventor is what I am adept with. I would be glad to learn, if it is not too dissimilar and supports common formats like STL. I'll look at the links right now
[20:28] <ray_> hello everyone
[20:28] <ray_> is this the official mint chanel?
[20:28] <EriC^^> !mint | ray
[20:29] <ray_> I changed channel in xchat and I can't remember what was the default one
[20:30] <EriC^^> ray_: you have to change the server to spotchat and then /join #linuxmint-help
[20:30] <hexafraction> EriC^^: I found Creo, but it's not libre so it's not ideal. There *is* a student discount, however.
[20:30] <ray_> ah ok thanks ric
[20:30] <EriC^^> hexafraction: i see
[20:31] <hexafraction> Um, never mind. They discontinued Linux support forever ago
[20:31] <EriC^^> hexafraction: why don't you dual boot?
[20:32] <hexafraction> EriC^^: My goal is to stop using Windows. It has been vexingly unreliable on my machine after only a few months after a reinstall
[20:32] <EriC^^> which windows?
[20:32] <hexafraction> 7 Home Premium x64
[20:33] <EriC^^> that's pretty good i guess
[20:33] <EriC^^> do you have anti-malware programs?
[20:34] <hexafraction> First few reinstalls included them.
[20:34] <hexafraction> I ended up stopping, and just being vigilant (and relying on router-level firewall+built in windows firewall)
[20:34] <ray_> Sorry but I don't see #Spotchat in the list
[20:35] <EriC^^> ray_: type /server irc.spotchat.org
[20:35] <ray_> will try thanks
[20:39] <EriC^^> hexafraction: check here might be worth a try http://alternativeto.net/software/solidworks/?platform=linux
[20:39] <ray_> Thanks EriC got it
[20:39] <EriC^^> ray_: cool, no problem
[20:40] <ray_> :)
[20:46] <dave_> gggggggg
[20:51] <harris> hi
[20:53] <narf84> hi all
[20:54] <fcn> ATI Radeon driver problem here. during boot the screen turns off. what would be the problem? after X starts everything is fine. the resolution, compiz etc everything is fine.
[21:00] <narf84> what version are you using fcn ?
[21:00] <OerHeks> fcn so you see login?
[21:00] <fcn> OerHeks: yeah I can login and all VTs have correct res.
[21:01] <fcn> 12,04 LTS
[21:05] <jasabella> hi :)
[21:05] <OerHeks> fcn, well, nothing to worrie about, it isn't beautifull, nor harmfull.
[21:06] <jasabella> how complete is the hardware support for the raspberry pi2 if i install the lts release of ubuntu on it?
[21:07] <jester_0> How can you know if a ppa is trustable?
[21:07] <TheNumb> jester_0: only when you check the build scripts.
[21:07] <bekks> jester_0: You cant.
[21:07] <TheNumb> Or you know the maintainer is also the developer.
[21:08] <TheNumb> ;p
[21:08] <bekks> TheNumb: Which codesnt make it more trustable.
[21:08] <bekks> *doesnt
[21:08] <TheNumb> jester_0: but the thing is, you can never be sure
[21:08] <TheNumb> unless you build the software yourself
[21:09] <jester_0> bekks, TheNumb, thanks, I was thinking of using mamarley ppa to install an nvidia driver, I think I'll just manually install
[21:09] <Giora> Is there any way to restore systray for ubuntu 14.04?
[21:09] <bekks> jester_0: Just use the xorg-edgers ppa instead.
[21:10] <OerHeks> *if* you really need newer nvidia drivers, use xorg edgers
[21:10] <lasindi> Hi all, I know Super + W does "expose" for all windows, but is there a shortcut to do it for just windows from the same app? I specifically mean the same action as when I click on, say, the Firefox icon in the launcher (shows all Firefox windows).
[21:10] <jester_0> bekks, OerHeks, so how can I know if xorg edgers is trustable ;)
[21:11] <OerHeks> jester_0, no 1000% guarantee, but that ppa is well known, at least by 2 of the volunteers.
[21:12] <OerHeks> lasindi, hold the windows key for a shortlist
[21:12] <jester_0> OerHeks, thanks I'll have to take a look into it
[21:13] <lasindi> OerHeks, yeah, I saw that but don't see a keyboard shortcut for it.
[21:15] <OerHeks> lasindi, in ubuntu 14.10 i can alt+tab .. and wait 3 sec to show all windows
[21:15] <OerHeks> not instant
[21:16] <lasindi> OerHeks, right, yeah, I was just hoping there was an instant thing.
[21:16] <lasindi> Alt + ` is the closest I've found, but not quite the same.
[21:18] <harris> hey OerHeks
[21:19] <axgb> Hi
[21:20] <r3m11> I'm trying to set up a simple NFS on my desktop computer (ubuntu 14.04) to access files from laptops (same distrib). I thought I did everything required but still, I cant mount the NFS directory from my laptop
[21:21] <bekks> So what did you do?
[21:22] <axgb> I am trying to transfer some files onto a memory stick, but when I do, it says that the memory stick is read only. What should I do?
[21:22] <mcc> Hello, I have a kubuntu I recently installed (I have had difficulty finding anyone who is responsive in #kubuntu). The kubuntu shows up in the boot menu but windows runs instead when i run it.
[21:22] <mcc> I have this theory that shimx64.efi / grub64.efi have been accidentally deleted from my EFI partition. I do not know how to test this theory, and I do not know how to fix it if this is true.
[21:22] <bekks> axgb: mount it writable.
[21:23] <mcc> I have a working copy of Windows 8.1 and also a USB stick with a Kubuntu 15.04 beta liveCD on it.
[21:23] <bekks> axgb: Which filesystem is it?
[21:23] <axgb> fat32 I need to transfer files to a windows computer so i cant do ext
[21:23] <bekks> axgb: And how did you mount it?
[21:26] <r3m11> bekks: here is a summary of what I did
[21:27] <r3m11> I had different options in /etc/export but I end but with *(ro) assuming it is the simplest
[21:28] <r3m11> bekks: www.hastebin.com/raxeqodaba.hs
[21:32] <bekks> r3m11: your /etc/hosts.deny effectively denies everything. Delete those entries. And delte the entries in your /etc/hosts.allow as well. Restart the server.
[21:33] <axgb> bekks, how do I mount it so that it will work?
[21:35] <r3m11> bekks: nope
[21:35] <axgb> How do I mount the memory stick so it can be written to?
[21:35] <bekks> Nope what?
[21:35] <axgb> SOrry I am not very familliar with IRC
[21:35] <EriC^^> axgb: sudo mount -o remount,rw /mountpoint
[21:35] <EriC^^> type lsblk to get the mountpoint
[21:36] <r3m11> bekks: doesnt work if I delete the entry from hosts.deny and hosts.allow... even tried nothing in hosts.deny, and ALL: <IP_ADDRESS> in hosts.allow
[21:36] <axgb> eric, what do you mean by the mountpoint, I think the memory stick is SDA2
[21:36] <bekks> "doesnt work" actually means nothing. What exactly are you trying (which command, etc.) and whats the full output you get?
[21:36] <EriC^^> axgb: type sudo mount -o rw /dev/sda2 /mnt
[21:37] <PSF> Hi, can you please recommend how to setup full disk encryption manually? Because during install it works only if entire disk is deleted and in that case it wont boot because of EFI
[21:37] <axgb> what does /mnt mean? I thought it was /media where removable media is mounted?
[21:37] <PSF> axgb: means mount
[21:37] <EriC^^> axgb: it's a default mountpoint
[21:38] <axgb> Hi, Eric, it says that I must specify a filesystem type
[21:39] <EriC^^> axgb: type sudo blkid | grep /dev/sda2
[21:39] <EriC^^> or just sudo blkid /dev/sda2
[21:40] <axgb> it still says the same thing "Error, you must specify the filesystem type"
[21:40] <EriC^^> axgb: did you type sudo blkid?
[21:40] <EriC^^> it should show something else
[21:40] <EriC^^> paste what it says
[21:42] <r3m11> bekks: I meant mount -t nfs does not work, with exactly the same output as in the paste I gave yout
[21:42] <r3m11> -t
[21:43] <bekks> r3m11: Your path contains whitespaces. Dont do that.
[21:44] <axgb> Eric, sorry, I said SDa2, when I meant SDA1. I have done what you said again but with the correct one
[21:44] <EriC^^> axgb: the mount command?
[21:44] <bekks> r3m11:O Or did I misread the mount command?
[21:44] <axgb> I think so
[21:44] <bekks> r3m11: Can you please give use the full command you are using?
[21:45] <r3m11> bekks: it doesnt, it's actually the mount point (read ./Images)
[21:45] <axgb> Eric, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10847369/
[21:45] <r3m11> the full command is the one I pasted. What more ?
[21:46] <bekks> r3m11: You are trying to mount it as NFSv4, while the server provides a share for NFSv3 only.
[21:49] <axgb> Eric, Thank you so much for your help, I fiddled a bit and entered the command in again and I have got it to work now. Thank you so much for your help
[21:49] <arrrghhh> hello. I used the disk-to-disk option to replace a small disk with a larger disk on my ubuntu box... however I can't boot now with the new disk, and it seems clonezilla did not do this properly. what is the 'best' way to do this? dd I suppose would work, but is really slow
[21:49] <EriC^^> axgb: ok, i think it's /dev/sdb1 right?
[21:50] <axgb> I have got it to work now, but it seemed to have changed to /dev/sdc1 for some reason
[21:50] <bekks> arrrghhh: disk-to-disk option clonezilla?
[21:51] <axgb> So if I have any problems in the future, can I type that command you gave me in to the terminal, with the correct /dev/(whatever) in and it should work?
[21:51] <bvemu> #django-floppyforms
[21:51] <EriC^^> axgb: oh ok, sometimes it happens to me too when i put another usb and then remove it
[21:51] <arrrghhh> bekks, yes.
[21:51] <EriC^^> axgb: yeah, you can see a better view of the disks with the name and size with sudo parted -l
[21:52] <bekks> arrrghhh: Did you try booting a livecd and repair grub?
[21:52] <EriC^^> or lsblk if you need it quickly
[21:52] <Bashing-om> arrrghhh: Did you verify/change the UUIDs in /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/grub.cfg in accordance to what -> sudo blkid <- reveals ?
[21:52] <axgb> Ok thank you for your help eric
[21:52] <EriC^^> axgb: no problem
[21:53] <wowa_s_> hi
[21:53] <arrrghhh> bekks, I was going to try that but the partitions show 'unknown' in gparted for some reason...
[21:53] <arrrghhh> bekks, I have ext4 with LVM... does LVM cause issues with clonezilla?
[21:53] <crosse> hi
[21:54] <bekks> arrrghhh: No.
[21:54] <wowa_s> Finally got irc working on my iPhone!
[21:55] <crosse> pcsx2 in ubuntu
[21:55] <hexafraction> crosse: What is your question? Do you need help installing it? Configuring it? Running it?
[21:55] <arrrghhh> bekks, so I'm booted with a liveusb and the 'new' drive installed... gparted shows the filesystem as unknown for some reason...
[21:56] <crosse> yes
[21:56] <crosse> install
[21:57] <bvemu__> #django
[21:58] <crosse> how to install pcsx2 in ubuntu
[21:58] <wowa_s> Gdc by
[21:58] <wowa_s_> hi
[21:58] <wowa_s> Hi there
[21:59] <crosse> hi
[22:01] <arrrghhh> Bashing-om, maybe I'm missing some steps. I was hoping to just clone from one disk to the other as I have to use an 'interim' disk... there's only 1 s-ata and 1 p-ata port on this thing
[22:02] <zerowaitstate> crosse: they tend to not discuss game box emulators in here. patent and copyright litigation and all that.
[22:02] <r3m11> thanks bekks that was indeed nfs v3
[22:02] <Guest95844> hi guys is here a league of legends channel_
[22:03] <r3m11> how comes client tries to mount nfs v4 be default while server is nfsv3 using the same distrib ?
[22:03] <bazhang> !alis | Guest95844
[22:03] <crosse> ok i will go to hell thnx
[22:05] <zerowaitstate> crosse: not asking you to go there specifically, just letting you know the limitations of the venue.
[22:05] <Guest95844> isnt it easier to google that rather than asking here
[22:06] <zerowaitstate> Guest95844: frequently
[22:07] <OerHeks> zerowaitstate, pcsx2 is not offtopic, the games are. crosse see https://launchpad.net/~gregory-hainaut/+archive/ubuntu/pcsx2.official.ppa
[22:07] <Guest95844> i am trying to get league of legends working properly on my system, but there's noone at #playonlinux to help me out :(
[22:07] <bekks> Guest95844: So you have to wait then.
[22:08] <crosse> zerowaitstate : thnx thnx
[22:08] <Guest95844> okay
[22:09] <crosse> oerhek: thnx
[22:11] <r3m11> bye now
[22:12] <Guest71399> nic?
[22:12] <Guest71399> hello all
[22:12] <Guest71399> cls
[22:13] <Guest71399> Is there a Xubuntu chat room ?
[22:13] <SchrodingersScat> !xubuntu | Guest71399
[22:13] <Guest71399> thanks
[22:14] <ahmad> hoi
[22:16] <crosse> ahmad what is your question
[22:23] <wowa_s> hi
[22:23] <wowa_s> oioij
[22:25] <Blue1> !ask | wowa_s
[22:26] <Blue1> !ask | blue1
[22:27] <vitimiti> wowa_s_ is spamming somebody else?
[22:38] <arrrghhh> ddrescue seemed to work... oh well
[22:41] <mcc> Hello. I've reinstalled grub. It put me at a shell. I have *literally no idea* how to use this. I am trying to run this guide: https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell.html#GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell
[22:41] <mcc> However when I type "normal" nothing happens, nothing at all, not even an error message.
[22:41] <EriC^^> mcc: type ls -l
[22:43] <mcc> How do I proceed?
[22:43] <mcc> eric, "invalid file name -l". to be clear i am not in bash. i am in grub.
[22:43] <EriC^^> yeah i know
[22:43] <EriC^^> i think you have uefi huh?
[22:43] <mcc> i have UEFI.
[22:43] <EriC^^> yeah, do you have a live usb?
[22:43] <mcc> oh wait
[22:43] <mcc> you said ls -1?
[22:44] <EriC^^> no -l
[22:44] <scuba323|afk> l
[22:44] <EriC^^> it won't work
[22:44] <mcc> neither -1 or -l work
[22:44] <mcc> is there a way to tell the grub prompt to boot the menu?
[22:44] <EriC^^> mcc: try guessing the partitions, type ls '(hd1,gpt1)'
[22:44] <mcc> which partition am i looking for?
[22:45] <mcc> the EFI partition is (hd1, gpt2). the linux partition is (hd1, gpt6).
[22:45] <EriC^^> you need the one with /boot
[22:45] <mcc> that will be (hd1, gpt6). what do i do with it?
[22:45] <EriC^^> ok type ls '(hd1,gpt6)'/boot/grub
[22:45] <ray_> Hi EriC
[22:45] <EriC^^> hi ray_ :)
[22:46] <mcc> ./ ../ x86_64-efi/ unicode.pf2 locale/ fonts/ i386-pc/ grubenv grub.fg
[22:46] <mcc> i mean grub.cfg
[22:46] <ray_> need help again :)
[22:46] <EriC^^> ray_: with what?
[22:46] <EriC^^> mcc: type configfile '(hd1,gpt6)'/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:47] <ray_> I thought I found the default server irc but I didn't :(
[22:47] <ray_> is it in Freenode server?
[22:47] <EriC^^> nope, it's on spotnet.org
[22:47] <mcc> huh
[22:47] <mcc> eric, that worked, thank you so much! :O
[22:47] <ray_> where do I have to insert that?
[22:47] <ray_> sorry I'm new
[22:48] <EriC^^> mcc: great, no problem
[22:48] <mcc> Eric, will I need to do that every time I boot up?
[22:48] <EriC^^> mcc: no, run sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX when you boot into ubuntu and then sudo update-grub
[22:48] <mcc> cool
[22:48] <EriC^^> get your disk with sudo parted -l and replace the sdX part
[22:49] <EriC^^> ray_: type /server irc.spotchat.org then type /join #linuxmint-help
[22:49] <mcc> it was sda in the installer. will it still be sda or can i not assume that
[22:49] <EriC^^> !mint
[22:50] <EriC^^> yeah it's spotchat , not spotnet
[22:50] <ray_> in this box EriC or do I have to add a new server?
[22:50] <EriC^^> mcc: yeah, if you didn't put any hdd's in it most likely is, really easy to check though
[22:50] <BZWingZero> I'm having trouble with a samba share. I can create files in the share via another (windows) computer, but they're being created with the wrong permissions. They're being created as 0770 but need to be 0774
[22:50] <BZWingZero> I have set the correct masks in my samba config, but they seem to be ignored
[22:51] <EriC^^> ray_: as you wish, you can type it here or press ctrl+t and open a new server
[22:51] <ray_> will try that thanks :)
[22:51] <EriC^^> no problem :)
[22:52] <wowa_s> Hi
[22:52] <wowa_s> Can you see this?
[22:52] <EriC^^> BZWingZero: i don't know much about samba, but do you mount it in linux in fstab or so?
[22:52] <EriC^^> BZWingZero: maybe it's mounted with noexec or something?
[22:52] <BZWingZero> the share is on my linux server, I'm mapping it from my windows desktop, EriC^^
[22:52] <EriC^^> BZWingZero: nevermind
[22:53] <EriC^^> i somehow thought the last 4 was for exec :D
[22:53] <BZWingZero> read :)
[22:53] <EriC^^> yeah also for others
[22:53] <wowa_s> Can anyone see what I'm saying?
[22:53] <EriC^^> i missed it by a football field :D
[22:53] <BZWingZero> wowa_s, good comm
[22:54] <mcc> Eric: I guess --recheck is what I didn't do before. The help said that did "delete device map if it already exists"-- is that a good thing then? What does it mean? :O
[22:54] <EriC^^> BZWingZero: maybe it has to do with the umask?
[22:56] <sssazzz> I am in Terminal and have accessed ~/.local/share/Trash/files. I would like to know if there is a shorthand for this long file path within terminal. Like nautilus &.
[22:56] <sssazzz> Where & = ~/.local/share/Trash/files.
[22:56] <bubbletea> hi
[22:57] <mah454> Hello
[22:57] <EriC^^> mcc: i think the device map was something used before, but it's not that common anymore
[22:58] <mah454> I have a laptop lenovo Z510 , and installed ubuntu 14.10 on it , but can not detect Geforce 740M Graphic card !!! please view this : http://pastebin.com/YLPgAnHS
[22:58] <EriC^^> mcc: if it's a fresh install, sometimes people have to reinstall grub, it happens occasionally
[22:58] <mah454> How can fix this problem ?
[22:58] <EriC^^> i don't know why
[22:59] <edition> how can I boot from a USB from the grub command line?
[22:59] <EriC^^> edition: boot another installation that's on a usb? or a live usb?
[23:00] <edition> it contains windows 7, copied across using 'dd'.
[23:00] <bubbletea> so I'm trying to bootcamp ubuntu on my old mbc http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook_pro_2.16_17.html
[23:01] <bubbletea> if it's possible what version should I be getting? if it's too weak, is there an alternate ubuntu that is updated and can run on older machines? or like.. what? (linux noob)
[23:01] <EriC^^> edition: http://askubuntu.com/questions/135272/how-to-boot-into-windows-7-when-grub-is-installed-in-the-windows-partition go to the possible workaround to boot windows 7 part
[23:02] <edition> thanks
[23:02] <EriC^^> edition: type ls -l in grub to get the partitions and then replace hd0,msdos1 with the windows one
[23:03] <EriC^^> edition: also try without the search line cause you need the uuid
[23:04] <bubbletea> should I use Lubuntu
[23:04] <SchrodingersScat> sssazzz: I wouldn't try to use &, that's already used to background processes. you can set variables though, var="~/foo/bar/" ; echo "$var"
[23:08] <guardian99> hello.... i am trying to get vsftpd running in ubuntu.... ive followed these instructions ** https://www.liquidweb.com/kb/how-to-install-and-configure-vsftpd-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts/ ** and made sure port 21 was unblocked, but i keep getting "Access denied" using both root and my user "admin" with WINSCP.... Filezilla says "Critical error: Could not connect to server"
[23:09] <BZWingZero> EriC^^, I tried adjusting the create mask to 777 as a sanity check, it then creates the file with rwxrwx-wx permissions.
[23:09] <BZWingZero> I'm not very confused
[23:09] <EriC^^> hehe
[23:09] <BZWingZero> err am very confused
[23:09] <hkrrsx> guardian99: Stupid question, is vsftpd running on the box? sudo netstat -ntlp | grep : 21
[23:11] <guardian99> grep: 21: No such file or directory
[23:12] <hkrrsx> Sorry .... sudo netstat -ntlp | grep :21
[23:12] <hkrrsx> There was an extra space between the : and 21
[23:12] <EriC^^> BZWingZero: it's pretty odd
[23:12] <guardian99> tcp 0 0 <IP_ADDRESS>:21 <IP_ADDRESS>:* LISTEN 4342/vsftpd
[23:12] <hkrrsx> Can you FTP locally?
[23:13] <hkrrsx> As in, ftp localhost ?
[23:13] <EriC^^> then again, i don't know much about samba, there's a guide thought i think
[23:13] <EriC^^> !samba
[23:13] <EriC^^> *though
[23:13] <sssazzz> SchrodingersScat: But if I'm already inside a directory, isn't there a way for me to extract the path to said directory without copy + paste?
[23:13] <sssazzz> Or having to type it out?
[23:14] <SchrodingersScat> sssazzz: pwd? echo "$(pwd)" #for example
[23:14] <guardian99> hkrrsx: Name (localhost:admin): admin
[23:14] <guardian99> 331 Please specify the password.
[23:14] <guardian99> Password:
[23:14] <guardian99> 530 Login incorrect.
[23:14] <guardian99> Login failed.
[23:14] <guardian99> crap sorry
[23:15] <sssazzz> SchrodingersScat: Thank you
[23:15] <EriC^^> sssazzz: if you're in the dir all you have to do is type nautilus .
[23:15] <EriC^^> and it will open the current dir in nautilus
[23:16] <sssazzz> Thank you
[23:16] <hkrrsx> guardian99: Try resetting the password of the user ?
[23:16] <SchrodingersScat> sssazzz: welcome, there's also the bash wiki, http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide and then #bash
[23:16] <hkrrsx> guardian99: Also, what about the permissions of the landing folder? Does it have read and execute permissions?
[23:17] <guardian99> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10847848/
[23:18] <hkrrsx> guardian99: Perhaps add your admin user to the 'ftp' group ?
[23:19] <idenkov> Do you have local_enable=YES accounts in /etc/vsftp.conf?
[23:19] <hkrrsx> idenkov: +1
[23:20] <guardian99> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10847859/
[23:20] <idenkov> What is it output from id admin
[23:21] <guardian99> - http://paste.ubuntu.com/10847860/
[23:21] <guardian99> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10847862/
[23:22] <hkrrsx> guardian99: Do you have a log file in /var/log/vsftpd.log that gives more details ?
[23:22] <Guest8736> que programa puedo utilizar para bajar videos de youtube
[23:23] <hkrrsx> guardian99: Can you log in to vsftpd with the account you're currently logged into Ubuntu with ?
[23:24] <idenkov> sudo usermod -a -G groupName userName
[23:24] <guardian99> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10847872/ - log file
[23:25] <hkrrsx> Looks like it was just recently working .... Sat Apr 18 18:25:54 2015 [pid 2192] [admin] OK LOGIN: Client "user.ip.address"
[23:25] <guardian99> ive never gotten in...
[23:25] <hkrrsx> Your log file says you did
[23:26] <hkrrsx> Did you not get the directory listing or something?
[23:26] <guardian99> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10847876/
[23:26] <guardian99> it wont auth, WINSCP still says "Access Denied" and filezilla says "Critical error: Could not connect to server"
[23:26] <hkrrsx> Access denied is usually a username/password issue
[23:29] <guardian99> i just rebooted and logged in with the same user / pass that vsftpd wont let me use
[23:30] <hkrrsx> Ok, so the account you're logging into Ubuntu with ....... you can not log into vsftpd with that same account credentials ?
[23:30] <guardian99> right
[23:30] <hkrrsx> Pastebin your /etc/vsftpd.conf file, please
[23:31] <guardian99> any easy way to copy an entire file to the clipboard?
[23:31] <hkrrsx> cat /etc/vsftpd.conf | pastebinit
[23:31] <Nikke__> /leave
[23:31] <guardian99> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10847895/
[23:33] <hkrrsx> Try uncommenting the #local_umask=022 part
[23:33] <hkrrsx> And then ' sudo service vsftpd restart '
[23:34] <hkrrsx> It wouldn't be a the end of the world to also un-comment the #xferlog_file=/var/log/vsftpd.log line
[23:35] <guardian99> ok done, restarted, cant login
[23:36] <guardian99> /var/log/vsftpd.log says im logging in, believe me im not
[23:36] <hkrrsx> Question, what made you choose vsftpd over proftpd ?
[23:36] <guardian99> Sat Apr 18 18:23:07 2015 [pid 24778] CONNECT: Client
[23:36] <guardian99> vsftpd was higher on the google hit list? :)
[23:37] <hkrrsx> lol ... I find proftpd MUCH easier to deal with, care to remove vsftpd and give proftpd a shot ?
[23:37] <idenkov> I don't even know why do people still use ftp software like this when you can use sshd for sftp
[23:37] <svetlana> why are we running an ftp daemon? sftp is more secure and easier to use
[23:37] <svetlana> haha the timing :)
[23:37] <idenkov> :D
[23:38] <guardian99> well for me im trying to install plugins for wordpress
[23:39] <idenkov> can't you do it from the wordpress backend?
[23:39] <hkrrsx> idenkov: svetlana: I can SFTP to proftpd without error or latency
Yeah I just don't see the point another service running when I can use existing one
[23:40] <idenkov> *running
[23:40] <idenkov> lol can't type
[23:41] <hkrrsx> idenkov: The idea is not to run 2 FTP services (would fail to bind to port 21 anyways), I'm trying to replace one for another
[23:41] <blargg> I did a package update for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS yesterday and yet again it's enabled a 5-minute screensaver, even though Brightness and Lock shows Never for screensaver, xset s off has been executed by me, and gnome-screensaver-command --exit has been executed. How do I disable the screensaver? It puts my monitor to sleep after 5 minutes.
[23:43] <Trinity> hi i'm working with a 3rd party HTTPServer and i'm able to get consistent responses if I run the httpserver manually, if I run it with Java ProcessBuilder even if I append nohup and & (i'm using linux) it will stop responding after 465 requests everytime
[23:43] <guardian99> hkrrsx: and that works instantly
[23:43] <guardian99> sigh
[23:43] <Trinity> from this i know that it must be an implementation issue, is there a specific linux command I can run to have the process run with all of it's resources?
[23:43] <guardian99> tyvm, amazing how much easier that was
[23:43] <hkrrsx> guardian99: I'm sorry and congratulations :)
[23:51] <banchu> ls
[23:51] <banchu> list
[23:51] <banchu> hi
[23:51] <dongerino> hi there
[23:52] <banchu> hi dongerino
[23:52] <kostkon> !list
[23:52] <banchu> hi qsaq
[23:53] <banchu> hi Iap
[23:53] <banchu> exit
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[01:11] <jplatte> Hi, I'm trying to get the Ubuntu SDK to work on Arch Linux
[01:12] <jplatte> I've found the QtCreator Ubuntu plugin source, and the remotelinux plugin source which the former seems to depend on
[01:13] <jplatte> But I can't figure out how to build them. I can generate a makefile with qmake and run make or open the .pro file in qtcreator and try to build the project there, but the qtcreator source files are not found
[01:13] <jplatte> I have seen that when creating new plugin projects, you get to set the qtcreator source path, in a graphic dialog of course... how do I set this for the plugins I cloned from launchpad?
[10:02] <ogra_> hmm
[10:03] * ogra_ wonders if he could abuse the CameraRecorder from QtMultimedia with a video resolution of 0 and framerate of 0 to write an audio recorder :)
[11:55] <DF__> Hi, does some one know about databases??
[12:08] <DF__> HI
[12:41] <DF__> can some one help me out with a database problem??
[12:43] <jonny_> Hi anyone know why QT Designer fails to start with the error while reading typeinfo files ?
[12:43] <jplatte> DF__: You didn't specify what kind of problem you have. Also, it's early in the morning for most of the US, so maybe less people are online now than other times
[12:44] <jonny_> should I right now or should I wait ?
[12:45] <jplatte> jonny_: what?
[12:45] <DF__> ok so here is my problem
[12:45] <DF__> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10844248/
[12:46] <DF__> i can't use the database that i specified
[12:48] <jplatte> DF__: I don't see any database specified there, also that's just some part of code, not an error message or description. Anyway, this doesn't seem to be about something Ubuntu SDK specific. Try to find a help channel about Qt or whatever database library you're using in that C++ code.
[12:48] <DF__> ok wait a sec, i send you the full code
[12:49] <DF__> here it's
[12:49] <DF__> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10844277/
[12:54] <jplatte> I've never used Qt, I still don't see a database name or anything like that, and you still didn't specify how this code fails. Like I said before, you'll probably have more success asking about this on a Qt IRC or something similar; there should be more people online, and they should know more about Qt – ask here if you have problems with Ubuntu specific problems, like the Ubuntu Touch permission stuff, building Apps for and i
[15:41] <vitimiti> Can somebody point me to a translation guide? I've already activated the translations for my app on launchpad, but I really want to make the translation for es_ES myself
[15:49] <popey> vitimiti: https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/Guide
[15:49] <vitimiti> popey, thank you very much
[16:14] <vitimiti> popey, I've been able to do it, thank you very much :)
[16:14] <vitimiti> Now my program is in my native language, too
[17:55] <vitimiti> How do I know what framework I've got to use for the publishing? I've tried most of the available ones and all of them have that same problem
[18:18] <nik90|temp> vitimiti:for now use ubuntu-sdk-14.10-qml for now
[18:18] <vitimiti> nik90|temp, thanks, I'll try
[18:19] <nik90|temp> that should work on bq phones
[18:19] <bzoltan_> vitimiti: as long you target the bq device you better stick to 14.10 fw, if you play with the 15.04 then 15.04 should be the fw
[18:20] <vitimiti> I can't do anything with the publishing, it says that there's an error in the securicy_policy_version_matches_framework every time
[18:20] <vitimiti> With 14.10, too
[18:20] <vitimiti> Also, it's a C++/QML app, not just a QML app
[18:25] <nik90|temp> vitimiti: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/utopic-3.0/view/head:/ubuntu-clock-app.json
[18:25] <nik90|temp> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/utopic-3.0/view/head:/manifest.json.in
[18:26] <vitimiti> I'll check those
[18:32] <vitimiti> 14.10 did it for me, at last, thank you
[19:27] <nik90|temp> vitimiti:yw
[21:20] <vitimiti> For my app (http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vitimiti/youtube-dl-ubutouch/trunk/files) I need the youtube-dl binary to be shipped with the package. I'm testing by issuing the same commands in the .pro file as for qmldir, so that it is copied together with the .so library, in the same folder, but I still can't execute the binary file with QProcess, since I don't know where the application is being executed from or even where the click
[21:20] <vitimiti> package will install this binary. Can somebody help me with that?
[21:20] <vitimiti> Wow, that was a letter, sorry
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2024-05-13T22:11:00.118137
| 2015-04-18T00:00:00
|
2015-04-18-#ubuntu-ops
|
{
"authors": [
"IdleOne",
"Luyin",
"bazhang",
"daftykins",
"ikonia",
"k1l",
"valorie"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-ops",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:68",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/18/%23ubuntu-ops.txt"
}
|
ubuntu-chat
|
[09:07] <daftykins> hi all, known spammer of a shifty website link is back - username "wwwBUKOLAYcom"
[09:38] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu wwwBUKOLAYcom porn chat website in username, other channels have been spammed with this link from this user too
je suis pede
[11:27] <bazhang> gone
[13:39] <Luyin> hi, I'd like to request a "meta" command for ubottu. Its purpose should be to inform someone about meta questions
[13:39] <Luyin> (with the hope that they might be avoided in the future ;)
[13:41] <Luyin> I can help/ do it myself if you point me into the appropriate direction.
[18:24] <k1l> after some usual alteregoa stuff on the beginning he is now actually doing something helpful. i am surprised
[19:57] <bazhang> @random romulan HURD
[19:58] <IdleOne> jolantru bazhang
[19:58] <bazhang> kil jinxed it
[19:59] <IdleOne> alteregoa doesn't need help being a pain
[19:59] <IdleOne> but you may be right
[19:59] <IdleOne> I may be crazy
[19:59] <IdleOne> But it just may be a lunatic you're looking for
[20:00] <IdleOne> I even drove my motorcycle in the rain
[20:00] * IdleOne collects himself
[22:36] * valorie passes the pipe to IdleOne
[23:14] <IdleOne> valorie: pipe?
[23:15] <valorie> in thanks for the above ramble, which made me laugh
[23:29] <IdleOne> hehe, my pleasure
|
2024-05-13T22:11:00.126339
| 2015-04-18T00:00:00
|
2015-04-18-#ubuntu-mythtv
|
{
"authors": [
"qwebirc6739",
"qwebirc69329",
"tgm4883"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-mythtv",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:69",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/18/%23ubuntu-mythtv.txt"
}
|
ubuntu-chat
|
[05:35] <qwebirc69329> I have something weird going on with my mythbuntu setup. I don't recall any changes made, but when I browse recordings from the frontend installed on my backend server it's all content form a year ago, while when I browse to the content via a web browser it's all correct. Lastly, when I try to connect a new frontend to it I receive this message 'this version of mythtv requires an updated database (schema is 18 versions b
[05:35] <qwebirc69329> continued: please run mythtv-setup or mythbackend to update your database.
[15:11] <tgm4883> qwebirc69329: odd
[15:11] <tgm4883> qwebirc69329: do you possibly have multiple backends in your environment?
[18:01] <qwebirc6739> I'm interested in setting up a mythbuntu server, but only want it to schedule, recorde and then export the video to a plex server so I'm loking for it to be as lightweight as possible would someone be able to help?
: Thanks for the reply. I only have one backend. I have my backend configured to get the latest mythtv updates in the control centre, so I ran apt-get update && upgrade. It seemed not to do anything after the update and a reboot, but this afternoon things appear to be working fine. Weird.
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2024-05-13T22:11:00.135426
| 2015-04-18T00:00:00
|
2015-04-18-#launchpad
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{
"authors": [
"GyrosGeier",
"cjwatson",
"phraktle"
],
"channel": "#launchpad",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:70",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/18/%23launchpad.txt"
}
|
ubuntu-chat
|
[09:50] <GyrosGeier> hi
[09:51] <GyrosGeier> I'm trying to push changes to lp from the git bzr plugin, but it keeps saying that no such branch exists. That is basically correct, I'm trying to create one
[09:52] <GyrosGeier> is there anything special I have to do when I want to create a branch?
[10:19] <phraktle> Hi! I have created a PPA and uploaded a package a few hours ago (using backportpackage), but it's still not showing up... How long is this supposed to take?
[10:19] <phraktle> See https://launchpad.net/~phraktle/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[14:10] <cjwatson> GyrosGeier: Nothing special. Exactly what command are you using?
[14:11] <GyrosGeier> "git push" -- I'm using the git bzr remote support
[14:11] <GyrosGeier> it worked by using bzr branch followed by bzr push to create the branch, and then pushing from git
[14:12] <GyrosGeier> using git::lp:kicad for pull, and git::lp:~sjr/kicad/master for push
[14:12] <cjwatson> Ah, you got it working eventually? OK.
[14:12] <GyrosGeier> erm
[14:13] <GyrosGeier> bzr:: instead of git::
[14:13] <GyrosGeier> yes
[14:13] <GyrosGeier> it's slightly suboptimal, but then again I don't submit via LP that often
[14:17] <cjwatson> We'll see if kicad will switch to git once we have it.
[15:48] <GyrosGeier> it is planned
[15:48] <GyrosGeier> almost everyone is using git, and all the related projects are on github
[15:49] <GyrosGeier> the plan, as I've understood it, is to fold everything together at some point
[15:50] <cjwatson> GyrosGeier: LP is weeks away from supporting git, too
[15:50] <cjwatson> (directly)
[15:51] <GyrosGeier> yes, the buttons already appeared for some people, I've heard :)
[15:52] <cjwatson> the backend only exists on qastaging
[15:52] <GyrosGeier> in general, there is no real preference between github and launchpad
[15:52] <cjwatson> but we'll fix that soon
[15:53] <GyrosGeier> both are external services to the project, and there is no real incentive to run a local copy of either so far
[15:53] <GyrosGeier> and there is a largely overlapping set of features we want
[15:54] <GyrosGeier> and neither can replace jenkins, which is bad because that is the first thing we'd like to get rid of
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2024-05-13T22:11:00.151163
| 2015-04-18T00:00:00
|
2015-04-18-#kubuntu
|
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"authors": [
"Aristide",
"BluesKaj",
"MoonUnit`",
"NeuhNeuh",
"arulmagi",
"chat",
"darthanubis",
"dougl",
"excalibr",
"holounix",
"jp_hranice",
"lordievader",
"manots",
"mcc",
"ubuntu_",
"valorie"
],
"channel": "#kubuntu",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:71",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/18/%23kubuntu.txt"
}
|
ubuntu-chat
|
[03:14] <mcc> Hi... I don't know whether to ask about this in here or in #ubuntu... but... I installed ubuntu on my spare partition a few weeks back... I tried it out, it sorta worked... i rebooted into Windows... and now i can't boot back into ubuntu
[03:14] <mcc> I had a grub, now it's gone
[03:15] <mcc> or well it doesn't seem to boot anymore
[03:15] <mcc> i am running a windows 8 software called Visual BCD and i think i am in over my head
[03:52] <valorie> !grub | mcc
[03:52] <valorie> just running grub-repair in the command line might fix it
[03:55] <mcc> cool
[09:06] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:22] <MoonUnit`> morning
[09:22] <lordievader> Hey MoonUnit`
[09:23] <MoonUnit`> think i've sorted my logoff/shutdown problem.
[09:23] <MoonUnit`> ksmserver: Client "/usr/bin/hotot-qt" ( 10d9e9d775000142934056900000244580013 ) canceled shutdown.
[09:23] <MoonUnit`> changed to the gtk version now
[10:13] <chat> hi, supporting for Kubuntu 15.04?
[10:31] <lordievader> chat: Support for 15.04 is in #ubuntu+1
[10:34] <chat> thnx
[11:58] <MoonUnit`> hmm thought something was broke after yesterdays reinstall, might be wrong.
[11:58] <MoonUnit`> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346316
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:58] <MoonUnit`> hi BluesKaj
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Hi MoonUnit`
[12:01] <MoonUnit`> BluesKaj: found out it was a program stopping logout and shutdown, didn't need to reinstall yesterday :-/
[12:01] <MoonUnit`> ksmserver: Client "/usr/bin/hotot-qt" ( 10d9e9d775000142934056900000244580013 ) canceled shutdown.
[12:01] <lordievader> Hehe, how fun.
[12:01] <lordievader> qt-mpc is another who cancels logout/shutdown...
[12:02] <BluesKaj> MoonUnit`, cool , glad you found it :)
[12:02] <MoonUnit`> changed to the gtk version :)
[12:09] <BluesKaj> still can't figure out why some Qt4 apps like dolphin don't use the plasma 5 colour settings in system settings/systemsettings5, According to the devs the plasma 4 apps should integrate their settings with plasma 5, but dolphin doesn't here. it's still that default plasma 4 off brown colour when it should be marble (blue)
[14:05] <darthanubis> Thank goodness my dolphin is not broken like that
[15:17] <excalibr> https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-27106
[15:17] <excalibr> which version of libqt 15.04 has?
[15:18] <excalibr> libqt5*
[16:01] <ubuntu_> когда все приложения переведут на новые кеды, а то дельфин то новый то старый и так все приложения
[16:04] <MoonUnit`> http://developer.kde.org/~cfeck/portingstatus.html
[16:04] <ubuntu_> спасибо
[16:40] <Aristide> Hello :)
[16:40] <Aristide> I want to install all possible KF5 application (Eg : Konqueror5, Dolphin5 ...)
[16:40] <jp_hranice> Hallo. I miss persistence test in LiveSesion TestCase on Testing Tracker. What is wrong?
[16:40] <Aristide> I'm under Kubuntu vivid, do you have a repository for that ?
[16:41] <jp_hranice> Aristide: no experience
[16:41] <Aristide> Ok :)
[16:41] <Aristide> No problems :D
[16:42] <Aristide> i'm googling again for try to find a solution on Internet
[16:46] <MoonUnit`> many apps are still using kde 4 libs http://developer.kde.org/~cfeck/portingstatus.html
[17:21] <NeuhNeuh> Hello (again ^^)
[17:21] <NeuhNeuh> I repeat my problem :
[17:21] <NeuhNeuh> I want to install all possible KF5 application (Eg : Konqueror5, Dolphin5 ...) I use Kubuntu vivid, but lot of app are stay in 4.x
[17:51] <excalibr> MoonUnit`, not so familiar with KDE, are those listing also include 3party apps or only apps officially made/maintained by KDE?
[17:52] <MoonUnit`> includes 3rd party i believe.
[18:57] <arulmagi> hi Everyone
[20:04] <mcc> Hello, my Kubuntu I installed no longer boots, my grub has somehow disappeared, I am trying to follow instructions someone in here passed me last night, I am hitting this barrier: http://i.imgur.com/6wSAQDS.jpg
[20:04] <mcc> It seems to be saying I cannot install grub because I do not have a /boot partition, but I am confused, the original installer did not make a /boot partition. if /boot is needed why didn't the original installer make one?
[22:01] <lordievader> mcc: You need to point the --boot-directory options to your boot directory.
[22:01] <lordievader> I suppose you are not chrooted in?
[22:03] <mcc> i am not chrooted in.
[22:03] <mcc> okay. let me start over.
[22:03] <mcc> i do not have a boot partition. rather, i am using UEFI, and I am booting off of something called shimx64.efi/grubx64.efi on my EFI partition.
[22:04] <mcc> However, my EFI partition ran into some kind of problem where it was partially corrupted? I ran a program called dosfsck on it and it deleted the "ubuntu" directory.
[22:04] <mcc> So now I need to somehow install Grub/shimx64.efi onto my efi partition. I am on a kubuntu liveCD. The instructions I am finding on the Ubuntu website are specific to pre-UEFI systems and contain ereferences to things like the "separate boot partition", which I don't have.
[22:06] <lordievader> I have no experience with uefi I'm afraid.
[22:10] <mcc> *nods* thanks.
[22:21] <holounix> hello
[23:33] <manots> ?
[23:35] <dougl> manots,
[23:35] <manots> yea?
[23:35] <dougl> ?
[23:41] <dougl> manots> ?
[23:42] <dougl> thot I missed a question
[23:42] <manots> its fine
|
2024-05-13T22:11:00.153642
| 2015-04-18T00:00:00
|
2015-04-18-#snappy
|
{
"authors": [
"Nothing_Much"
],
"channel": "#snappy",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:72",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/18/%23snappy.txt"
}
|
ubuntu-chat
|
[07:26] <Nothing_Much> Is it possible that the deb2snappy thing can become deb2click or something??
[07:47] <Nothing_Much> Is it possible that the deb2snappy thing can become deb2click or something??
|
2024-05-13T22:11:00.168326
| 2015-04-18T00:00:00
|
2015-04-18-#ubuntu-za
|
{
"authors": [
"Kilos",
"MaNI",
"Maaz",
"Private_User",
"SDCDev",
"Squirm",
"Tonberry",
"captine",
"gremble",
"inetpro",
"nlsthzn",
"superfly"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-za",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:73",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/18/%23ubuntu-za.txt"
}
|
ubuntu-chat
|
[05:48] <Kilos> morning nlsthzn captine inetpro and you others that are awake
[08:25] <Kilos> loadshedding huh
[08:37] <Kilos> hi captine
[09:04] <captine> hi there
[09:24] <Squirm> Load shedding from 12 :/
[09:25] <Kilos> eish
[09:26] <Kilos> ive done my bit already
[09:32] <Squirm> 12 - 14h30
[09:32] <Squirm> Meh
[09:33] <Kilos> ai! and they are talking about making a schedule 4
[09:36] <Squirm> Cape Town sort of does that already
[09:36] <Squirm> We have a 3A and a 3B
[09:36] <Kilos> sjoe
[09:36] <Kilos> yeah they want to make the b thing into 4 now
[09:37] * Squirm shrugs
[09:37] <Squirm> The only way it seems to affect me now, is my commute time
[09:37] <Squirm> from 20min to 35min, so it doesn't bother me
[09:41] <Kilos> eish
[09:50] <MaNI> they anyway seem to invent new stages as they go along
[09:50] <Squirm> Maaz: ping
[09:50] <Maaz> Squirm: pong
[09:50] <MaNI> "now implementing partial stage 3b"
[09:50] <MaNI> etc.
[09:50] <Kilos> more painful by the day
[09:51] <MaNI> more stages than a dragonball z character
[09:53] <Kilos> lol
[10:14] <Kilos> MaNI you settling in here nicely
[10:15] <Squirm> :/
[10:15] <Squirm> Meh
[10:15] <Kilos> what now
[10:15] * Squirm wanders around
[10:16] <Kilos> you at work Squirm ?
[10:16] <Kilos> hi Tonberry
[10:16] <Tonberry> hi
[10:25] <MaNI> great, looks like the last power outage took my geyser with it or something
[10:25] <Kilos> eish
[10:28] <Squirm> Kilos: on a Saturday? Not a chance
[10:28] <Kilos> hahaha
[10:32] <Kilos> hi Private_User
[10:32] <Private_User> hi Kilos
[10:32] <Private_User> anybody else been load shedded?
[10:32] <Kilos> yes at 8 am already
[10:36] <Private_User> ah ok we just got the power back
[10:37] <Kilos> loadshedding has become a major topic nowadays
[10:38] <Private_User> yeah I heard on the news Eskom has a new CEO and he reckon his first agenda to resolve is Load Shedding so lets see what he does
[10:43] <Kilos> haha
[13:12] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[13:30] <Kilos> hmm... captine you came again back
[13:30] <Kilos> good man
[14:00] <MaNI> can feel the icy hand of eskom reaching out to take my power
[14:00] <Kilos> hehe
[14:01] <Kilos> where do i find the link for their schedule for west of pta
[14:02] <MaNI> http://loadshedding.news24.com/ < apparently thats pretty reliable
[14:02] <Kilos> ty MaNI
[14:24] <nlsthzn> hey uncle Kilos , think the Sharks will win this one?
[14:24] <Kilos> i dont know nlsthzn they been playing bad
[14:24] <Kilos> even the commentators say bulls
[14:27] <nlsthzn> never a good sign when the bulls become the favourites :p
[14:27] <Kilos> lol
[14:28] <Kilos> but the bulls have been improving all the time
[14:29] <Kilos> last game was great
[14:41] <nlsthzn> I was glad I got to see it and if baby bear plays along I might see this one too :p
[14:41] <Kilos> hehe
[15:05] <nlsthzn> well good luck for your team as long as they play a good game it doesn't matter ;)
[15:06] <Kilos> ty nlsthzn you too
[15:34] <gremble> o/
[15:38] <Kilos> hi gremble
[15:39] <Squirm> Maaz: sharks score
[15:39] <Maaz> Squirm: Huh?
[15:39] <Squirm> Maaz: google sharks score
[15:39] <Maaz> Squirm: "San Jose Sharks on Yahoo! Sports - News, Scores, Standings ..." http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/san/ :: "NHL Hockey Scores - NHL Scoreboard - ESPN - ESPN.com - Go.com" http://scores.espn.go.com/nhl/scoreboard :: "San Jose Sharks: The Official Web Site" http://sharks.nhl.com/ :: "NHL.com - Scores" http://www.nhl.com/ice/scores.htm :: "Schedule - San Jose
[15:39] <Maaz> Sharks - NHL.com" http://sharks.nhl.com/club/schedule.htm :: "San Jose Sharks - ScoreBig"…
[15:40] <Squirm> Kilos: echo $'Sharks vs. Blue Bulls score'
[15:40] <Squirm> Maaz: google sharks rugby live score
[15:40] <Maaz> Squirm: "Sport24 Live Scoring" http://www.sport24.co.za/Livescoring :: "Live Scores - SuperSport" http://www.supersport.com/live :: "SuperSport - Rugby" http://www.supersport.com/rugby :: "Sharks Rugby" http://www.sharksrugby.co.za/ :: ":: MWEB :: Live Scores" http://www.mweb.co.za/general/?p=livescores :: "Super Rugby | Super 15 Rugby News,Results and Fixtures
[15:40] <Maaz> from ..." http://www.superxv.com/ :: "Rugby Live Scores - Yahoo New Zealand Sport" https://n…
[15:41] <Kilos> 3/3
[15:41] <Squirm> 3-0
[15:41] <Squirm> Oh
[15:41] <Squirm> :/
[15:41] <Squirm> http://www.sport24.co.za/rugby/livescoring?mid=1115787&st=rugby
[15:41] <Squirm> So much for live scoring
[15:41] <Kilos> lol
[15:42] * Squirm thinks he can stream the game
[15:46] <Squirm> Or not...
[15:46] <Squirm> Weird
[15:46] <Kilos> 3/8 to bulls
[15:51] <inetpro> Squirm: http://web.sabc.co.za/digital/player/1.0/rsg/index.html
[15:51] <Kilos> lo pro
[15:51] <inetpro> hello everyone
[15:51] <Kilos> half time
[15:51] <inetpro> hmm...
[15:51] * Kilos not everyone me Kilos
[15:52] <inetpro> uh...
[15:52] <nlsthzn> Squirm, I have a link for you if you want to stream the game
[15:53] <nlsthzn> http://cricfree.sx/watch/live/sharks-vs-blue-bulls-live-streaming
[16:00] <inetpro> nlsthzn: eush! that streams at up to 400kbps
[16:01] <inetpro> radio streams at less than 25kbps
[16:01] <inetpro> or less than 40kbps
[16:02] <nlsthzn> video != audio
[16:02] <nlsthzn> could stream one of the SA radio stations
[16:02] <Kilos> nlsthzn do you have DU TV channel 541
[16:02] <nlsthzn> they often cover the games
[16:02] <nlsthzn> Kilos, nope
[16:02] <nlsthzn> if I could watch this on TV I would :p
[16:02] <Kilos> aw
[16:02] <Squirm> Thanks nlsthzn
[16:02] <nlsthzn> now I mostly watch a slide show
[16:02] <Kilos> boet in dubai is watching it there
[16:03] <Squirm> I should be subscribed to DSTV website, but my parents smart card isn't being picked up.
[16:03] <nlsthzn> I could buy the "sports" package
[16:03] <Squirm> Says it's there and active though
[16:03] <Squirm> Very weird
[16:03] <nlsthzn> odd
[16:03] <Kilos> ai!
[16:04] <nlsthzn> and the sports package means all channels and lots of $
[16:04] <Kilos> ya he just told me the price
[16:04] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:05] <Kilos> 640 a month for full DU TV, uncapped wi fi, with router and landlines fone, free local calls
[16:06] <nlsthzn> I basically have that without all the channels
[16:06] <nlsthzn> so I pay less
[16:06] <nlsthzn> much less :p
[16:06] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:06] <Kilos> 10/8 t0 sharks
[16:06] <Kilos> go my banana boys
[16:09] <Kilos> eish 10/11
[16:38] <Squirm> Watching White Collar
[16:38] <Squirm> They just said if you want to reach anyone in the underground community
[16:38] <Squirm> best way to do it is post a message on IRC
[16:38] <Squirm> :D
[16:38] <Kilos> haha
[16:38] * Squirm must be hanging with the dubious sort
[16:38] <Kilos> nlsthzn you smiling?
[16:50] <nlsthzn> sorry uncle Kilos ... but the Sharks is in trouble...
[16:51] <nlsthzn> bulls not good but better than sharks
[16:51] <Kilos> yeah sharks got bad this year
[17:30] <inetpro> wb pieter2627
[17:30] <inetpro> guess if the sharks keep loosing we might as well focus our attention here
[17:30] <inetpro> Kilos: what's up doc?
[17:31] <Kilos> not much inetpro
[17:31] <inetpro> Squirm: underground on irc? ai!
[17:31] <Kilos> sis in law from dubai chatting on pidgin atm
[17:33] <inetpro> getting cold today
[17:33] <Squirm> http://www.wimp.com/synchronizingmetronomes/
[17:33] <Squirm> http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/videos/n-sync/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=MythBusters
[17:33] <Kilos> yeah
[17:33] <Squirm> So cool
[17:36] <Kilos> ya winter is here
[17:37] <Kilos> 20 max in house today
[17:38] <Kilos> and im sure about 10°c at night here
[17:50] <Kilos> inetpro did you see this https://github.com/tobykurien/NSA_b_gone
[17:51] <inetpro> Kilos: you must be very desperate do go to that level
[18:17] <Kilos> oh
[18:18] <Kilos> i dont know man thats why i asked you
[18:18] <Kilos> the nsa can look here is they like but the point is why should they
[18:18] <Kilos> if they like
[18:20] <Kilos> my goed is my goed
[18:20] <Kilos> ill invite peeps to come view my pc
[18:21] <inetpro> Kilos: no point in doing all that if you're using cloud services like gmail and others
[18:21] <Kilos> oh inetpro i spent some hours seeing what i can learn from a inet+ study guide
[18:22] <Kilos> ya thats right
[18:23] <Kilos> i saw some stuff i understand like wan and lan and coax and cat cable etc
[18:24] <inetpro> btw, I think superfly is spending all the time watching super rugby with his boys
[18:24] <inetpro> no time for us any more
[18:24] <Kilos> lol
[18:24] <superfly> if only
[18:24] <inetpro> :-)
[18:25] <Kilos> hmm... geeks dont do sport
[18:25] <Kilos> oh inetpro have you been watching our launchpad members
[18:26] <Kilos> im sure we are one less than testerday
[18:26] <Kilos> yesterday
[18:26] <Kilos> i wonder who left
[18:26] <inetpro> Kilos: you chasing them away now?
[18:26] <Kilos> ya im sad
[18:27] <Kilos> but we are also more than2 weeks ago
[18:28] <inetpro> maybe better if you don't look too often
[18:28] <Kilos> there was something i wanted to ask you
[18:34] <inetpro> don't ask to ask, just ask
[18:34] <Kilos> i have forgotten man
[18:34] <inetpro> ai!
[18:35] <Kilos> i have been thinking of applying for a position on the council
[18:35] <Kilos> maybe they will give me another sjambok
[18:36] <Kilos> oh superfly was there a reason for going for the unity look?
[18:37] <superfly> nope, just playing around
[18:37] <Kilos> ah
[18:41] <inetpro> Kilos: you can put that sjambok away now
[18:41] <Kilos> i cant hibana has it
[18:42] <inetpro> we're live in a modern world now, no more corporal punishment
[18:42] <inetpro> we live*
[18:42] <Kilos> lol you sound like graeme
[18:42] <inetpro> he reminded me
[18:43] <Kilos> i was talking to a guy from the missing kenya loco
[18:43] <Kilos> he is now in switzerland and says even that loco is half dead
[18:44] <Kilos> FB and tweet place stole the irc star
[18:44] <Kilos> we gotta fix that
[18:45] <inetpro> no
[18:45] <Kilos> why
[18:45] <inetpro> that's not something to fix
[18:45] <Kilos> i wanna
[18:45] <inetpro> what you need to do is to adapt
[18:46] <Kilos> nono
[18:46] <Kilos> they can FB and Tweet to their hearts content but not at the cost of irc
[18:46] <inetpro> get peeps to play the community role for you on the different platforms
[18:46] <Kilos> eish i dont like FB man
[18:47] <inetpro> Kilos: you can not and should not do it all by yourself
[18:47] <Kilos> ya thats why im telling you so i have help
[18:47] * Kilos giggles
[18:49] <inetpro> that is why I'm helping by telling you to change attitudes
[18:49] <Kilos> haha
[18:49] <inetpro> Ubuntu works on all those platforms
[18:50] <Kilos> so who is gonna do the FB and Twitter side
[18:50] <Kilos> see im even using caps
[18:50] <inetpro> ah, nou vra hy die regte vraag
[18:51] <inetpro> Twitter and G+ is covered for now
[18:51] <inetpro> even if we can still improve
[18:51] <Kilos> oh ya thats what i wanted to ask
[18:52] <Kilos> where are the G+ reminders , meeting in 11 days i think
[18:52] <Kilos> have i messed up somewhere that i dont get them
[18:55] <Kilos> 10 days
[18:55] <inetpro> Kilos: don't worry about it
[18:55] <Kilos> oh ya
[18:56] <Kilos> with all your ss something stuffs will you remind me of board meetings please
[18:56] <Kilos> maybe a couple of days early
[18:57] <inetpro> ss something stuffs?
[18:57] <Kilos> oh ya
[18:57] <Kilos> wait
[18:57] <Kilos> hasnt TB got a place to see send mails
[18:58] <Kilos> those reminder things you get
[18:58] <inetpro> ss?
[18:58] <Kilos> its not ssh , i forget what
[18:58] <Kilos> the links to everything
[18:59] <Kilos> rss?
[19:00] <inetpro> uh...
[19:01] <inetpro> Kilos: Thunderbird: Under Tools->Account Settings->Copies & Folders make certain that you have selected "Place a copy in" and that you have chosen a folder to be the Sent folder for that account
[19:01] <Kilos> ah ty sir
[19:02] <inetpro> as for RSS, no... jy het die kat aan die stert beet oom
[19:02] <Kilos> ai!
[19:04] <inetpro> Kilos: http://fridge.ubuntu.com//calendars/
[19:09] <Kilos> i cant see all the writing
[19:09] <Kilos> http://pasteboard.co/2Fdd4fnj.png
[19:09] <Kilos> wat doen ek nou verkeerd
[19:15] <Kilos> i think i must find me a girlfriend there to remind me
[19:16] <inetpro> ai!
[19:16] <Kilos> wat nou
[19:16] <inetpro> you really expect all that info to display on one screen?
[19:17] <Kilos> i dont expect anything but id like to be able to see whats there
[19:17] <Kilos> must i put 2 screens
[19:17] <Kilos> hehe
[19:17] <inetpro> have you even tried clicking on something like Week or Agenda?
[19:18] <Kilos> no
[19:18] <inetpro> or even a specific entry
[19:18] <Kilos> oh my thats wonderful
[19:19] * inetpro keeps quiet
[19:19] <Kilos> ty i can see each one individually
[19:19] <Kilos> ty my friend
[19:19] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[19:19] * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[19:19] <Kilos> Maaz coffee for all
[19:19] <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already
[19:20] <Kilos> all includes you inetpro
[19:23] <inetpro> Kilos: you can add that calendar to your local one on Lighning in Thunderbird
[19:23] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:23] <inetpro> Lightning*
[19:23] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[19:23] <Kilos> Maaz ty
[19:23] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[19:24] * Kilos sips cyber coffee alone
[19:25] * inetpro forgets about mentioning something
[19:25] <Kilos> im looking how man
[19:25] <inetpro> ask
[19:25] <Kilos> nag nag nag
[19:26] <Kilos> your poor family
[19:26] <inetpro> ai!
[19:26] <Kilos> hee hee
[19:27] <inetpro> you're most welcome to spend a few days googling it
[19:27] <Kilos> oh my goodness gracious
[19:28] <Kilos> inetpro please tell me how i make the lightning calender see the one in my browser
[19:28] <inetpro> lol
[19:28] <Kilos> im sure you are sitting there smirking
[19:28] <Kilos> hi captine
[19:28] <captine> hi
[19:29] <inetpro> hello Kilos
[19:29] <inetpro> oops captine
[19:29] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:29] <captine> lol
[19:29] <captine> hi inetpro
[19:29] <inetpro> wb
[19:29] <captine> thnx. about to fall asleep, so not back for long
[19:29] <Kilos> yes captine you are getting way too scarce
[19:29] <inetpro> Kilos: look on the left below the calendar at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/
[19:30] <inetpro> three little buttons, ICAL, XML and HTML
[19:30] <Kilos> oh ya
[19:31] <Kilos> go on
[19:31] <inetpro> in lightning you can take the link to the ICAL calendar and add that as another calendar on the network
[19:31] <inetpro> in other words, right-click and copy the link
[19:32] <inetpro> then go to Thunderbird and click File -> New -> Calendar...
[19:32] <inetpro> take it from there
[19:32] <inetpro> and ask if you get stuck
[19:33] <inetpro> or just go Google
[19:34] <Kilos> nono google doesnt explain nicely like you do
[19:34] <inetpro> uh... I already saved you a few days now
[19:35] <Kilos> ya but just think about all the days of links and rtfs that you didnt save me
[19:35] <Kilos> not nearly balanced out yet
[19:36] * inetpro demands all his money back
[19:36] <Kilos> hahaha all you taught me i still know nothing
[19:36] <Kilos> i cant find file anywhere
[19:36] <inetpro> I rest my case
[19:37] <inetpro> Kilos: RTFS
[19:38] <Kilos> ai!
[19:38] <inetpro> remember, I told you about the menu bar last time... but don't go have sleepless nights about it... there is another way... just RTFS
[19:39] <Kilos> i got it
[19:39] <inetpro> thank you
[19:39] <Kilos> i forgot that thing that goes to tools as well
[19:39] <Kilos> menu
[19:41] <captine> Kilos, I Know. rally bad.
[19:41] <captine> and thi s is with family here to help with little ones
[19:41] <Kilos> shocking captine
[19:41] <captine> got a massive project starting 4 may so 6 weeks of heavy work
[19:41] <captine> coming up to..
[19:41] <Kilos> oh my
[19:41] <captine> gotto run. night all
[19:41] <Kilos> sleep tight lad
[19:42] <Kilos> dont forget us
[19:42] <captine> on leave Monday and Tues, so may be online in the day a bit then
[19:42] <Kilos> ok
[19:42] <inetpro> good night captine
[19:43] <inetpro> wb SDCDev
[19:43] <inetpro> Kilos?
[19:43] <Kilos> yessir
[19:44] <Kilos> hi SDCDev
[19:44] <inetpro> you too quiet sir
[19:44] <Kilos> oh ye of many nicks
[19:44] <Kilos> i see file but no new in it
[19:44] <Kilos> grrr
[19:44] <inetpro> ai!
[19:44] <Kilos> so no new means no calender
[19:45] <inetpro> ok, let's go the other route then
[19:45] <inetpro> Kilos: switch to the calendar tab
[19:45] <Kilos> easier to bookmark that link man
[19:45] <SDCDev> ty inetpro :)
[19:45] <SDCDev> lol
[19:45] <SDCDev> hey :)
[19:45] <SDCDev> load shedding is a bitch
[19:45] <Kilos> yeah
[19:46] <inetpro> SDCDev: we don't talk about it
[19:46] <Kilos> do you have a tc SDCDev
[19:46] <Kilos> tv
[19:46] <inetpro> it's like mentioning the word rugby whn your team has lost
[19:46] <SDCDev> I have a tv, but its not connected
[19:46] <Kilos> inetpro did you see the advert about it
[19:47] <Kilos> http://www.santam.co.za/posts/santam-news/our-latest-tv-ad-one-of-a-kind-insurance-for-a-one-of-a-kind-country/
[19:47] <SDCDev> actually I don't know where my tv is
[19:47] <Kilos> i think its classic
[19:47] <inetpro> Kilos: have you switched to the calendar tab yet?
[19:47] <SDCDev> :/ could be in storage
[19:47] <Kilos> yessir
[19:48] <SDCDev> I've seen that.. my sister sent me a link on skype a few weeks ago
[19:48] <inetpro> Kilos: now on the left below the small monthly calendar, you see the word Calendar with a + or a - ?
[19:49] <Kilos> ya and home thats ticked under it
[19:49] <inetpro> mooi!
[19:50] <inetpro> now with your mouse in the open space below that, press the right-click button on your mouse
[19:50] <inetpro> with your mouse cursor*
[19:50] <Kilos> ya
[19:51] <inetpro> you see the option 'New Calendar' ?
[19:51] <Kilos> it shows on my pc and on the network
[19:51] <inetpro> ai!
[19:51] <inetpro> now go ahead from here
[19:52] <Kilos> ya i ticked new to see those
[19:52] <Kilos> must i choose network or what
[19:52] <Kilos> ai!
[19:52] <Kilos> when i do tick i shouldnt have and vice versa
[19:53] <inetpro> Kilos: just do RTFS and follow basic logic
[19:53] <Kilos> lol
[19:54] <inetpro> ok, I'll give you the tip, it's not on your computer, it's on the network
[19:54] <inetpro> but I've already said that
[19:55] <Kilos> ya i did that and chose icalender and then added the link from ical in browser but dont see it
[19:55] <Kilos> named it buntu
[19:56] <inetpro> serious?
[19:57] <Kilos> ya im going through it again
[19:57] <inetpro> Kilos: what do you see and what don't you see?
[19:57] <Kilos> i see only a blank calender
[19:57] <inetpro> what is the link that you pasted?
[19:58] <Kilos> yay it arrived
[19:58] <inetpro> mooi!
[19:58] <Kilos> the one from ical
[19:59] <Kilos> why it didnt work first time i dont know
[19:59] <Kilos> ty sir
[19:59] <inetpro> simple
[19:59] <Kilos> oh this is lekker
[19:59] <Kilos> just hovering mouse shows the whole event
[20:01] <inetpro> Kilos: no go right-click on the calendar again and set its Properties to Read Only
[20:01] <inetpro> because you don't have permissions to change the calendar online
[20:02] <Kilos> ok
[20:03] <Kilos> no such option
[20:04] <Kilos> right clicked in many places
[20:04] <inetpro> ai! YDIW
[20:04] <Kilos> ai!
[20:05] <inetpro> Kilos: are you still on the Calendar Tab?
[20:05] <Kilos> ya
[20:05] <inetpro> you see below Calendar there is Home with a tick?
[20:05] <inetpro> what is below that?
[20:05] <Kilos> ya
[20:06] <Kilos> basic with a tick
[20:06] <inetpro> basic?
[20:06] <inetpro> now right-click on basic
[20:06] <Kilos> ya it put that file name in so i left it
[20:06] <inetpro> what do you get?
[20:07] <inetpro> the last option should be Properties
[20:08] <Kilos> new delete export publish sync and properties and in properties was option for read only
[20:08] <inetpro> dankie tog!
[20:09] <Kilos> well you must say all the stuffs man not leave things out
[20:09] <inetpro> nou hoe sukkel ons dan nou so?
[20:09] <Kilos> its like saying go to desktop
[20:09] <inetpro> Kilos: no go right-click on the calendar again and set its Properties to Read Only
[20:09] <Kilos> but leaving out the /home/miles/Desktop
[20:09] <inetpro> does that ^^ not say enough?
[20:09] <Kilos> i have
[20:10] <inetpro> s/no/now/
[20:10] <Kilos> when i opened properties and saw read only i ticked it
[20:10] <inetpro> that is all I wanted sir
[20:11] <Kilos> ty so much for your patience my old friend
[20:11] <inetpro> Kilos: and you can even go back and rename it to Ubuntu or Fridge or something else
[20:11] <Kilos> i might even vote +1 for you
[20:11] <inetpro> and change it's color
[20:11] <Kilos> ya but now
[20:11] <inetpro> etc, etc, etc
[20:11] <Kilos> forget the colour man its working
[20:12] <Kilos> one question is
[20:12] <inetpro> ?
[20:12] <Kilos> if i next month hit syncronize will it automagically get next months
[20:13] <inetpro> no need to do that sir
[20:13] <Kilos> explain please
[20:13] <inetpro> the ICAL file lives online
[20:14] <Kilos> wow
[20:14] <inetpro> if they change the calendar your thunderbird picks up the changes
[20:14] <Kilos> die engelse is slim ne
[20:14] <Kilos> wow
[20:15] <inetpro> Kilos: you can download that link with wget and inspect it with kate
[20:15] <Kilos> you have been dying to make me do that hey
[20:15] <Kilos> nono dont add more now
[20:15] <inetpro> dying to do what?
[20:16] <Kilos> make me add an online calender to TB
[20:16] <Kilos> since you installed TB the other day you have been working this all out
[20:17] <Kilos> like change its colour
[20:17] <inetpro> Kilos: you asked
[20:18] <inetpro> 04/18 20:56:37 <Kilos> with all your ss something stuffs will you remind me of board meetings please
[20:18] <Kilos> lol yaya blame me
[20:18] <inetpro> lightning in thunderbird is not the only calendar that can read the ICAL format
[20:18] <Kilos> but well done sir that be very lekker now
[20:19] <inetpro> you can even do that with Outlook on Microsoft Windows
[20:19] <Kilos> oh should i go back to evo?
[20:20] <Kilos> oh superfly did you read the mail for the newsletter?
[20:21] <superfly> Kilos: the one about you becoming a board member?
[20:21] <Kilos> nono the one i want to send the weekly news about what we are doing
[20:22] <Kilos> oh my dont say i didnt send it
[20:22] <Kilos> or maybe a link to slexy or something
[20:58] <inetpro> hmm...
[21:07] <inetpro> Kilos: slaap jy?
[21:07] <Kilos> nee inetpro
[21:07] <inetpro> lyk so
[21:07] <Kilos> ohi hibana
[21:07] <Kilos> ek wag vir vlieg om te antwoord
[21:08] <inetpro> hy't al weer gaan slaap
[21:08] <Kilos> ai! shame
[21:08] <inetpro> en hibana het gaan visvang
[21:08] <Kilos> ai!
[21:09] <Kilos> ek sukkel met my volk
[21:19] <inetpro> good night
[21:20] <Kilos> night inetpro sleep tight
[21:55] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[23:22] <superfly> Maaz: tell Kilos Oh, that one. Yes I did. It looks fine to me.
[23:22] <Maaz> superfly: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
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2024-05-13T22:11:00.186741
| 2015-04-18T00:00:00
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2015-04-18-#kubuntu-devel
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"authors": [
"BluesKaj",
"Peace-",
"Riddell",
"ahoneybun",
"lordievader",
"ovidiu-florin",
"santa_",
"sgclark",
"soee",
"valorie"
],
"channel": "#kubuntu-devel",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:74",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/18/%23kubuntu-devel.txt"
}
|
ubuntu-chat
|
[04:56] <ahoneybun> hola
[05:32] <valorie> ahoneybun: did you mean 14.04 on your daddy's computer, or 15.04?
[09:06] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:13] <Peace-> hey i got this error in kubuntu installing a new printer http://i.imgur.com/PEzDBQL.png
[09:13] <Peace-> Riddell: ^
[09:36] <Riddell> Peace-: bug in hp printer stuff I guess
[09:37] <Peace-> Riddell: and it seems it's an old bug that has shown again
[10:42] <ovidiu-florin> on which channel can I find lydia?
[10:43] <ovidiu-florin> have you guys filled out the KDE survey?
[10:43] <Riddell> kde survey?
[10:44] <Riddell> nightrose is on #kde-devel
[10:44] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: ↑
[10:44] <ovidiu-florin> http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2015/04/18/evolving-kde/
[10:44] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: ^
[10:44] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[10:45] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: in what country is she?
[10:46] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: what is a supporting member of KDE e.v.?
[10:46] <ovidiu-florin> what does that mean?
[10:47] <Riddell> she lives in germany
[10:48] <Riddell> a supporting member is someone who pays to be a member of e.v. as a donation
[10:48] <ovidiu-florin> aha
[10:49] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: https://evolve.kde.org/
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:17] <Riddell> plasma 5.3 backports http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.2.95_vivid.html
[13:25] <santa_> great
[13:31] <santa_> Riddell: I presume the kwin FTBFS it's because the libkdecoractions2-dev build dependency version wasn't properly bumped to >= 5.2.95
[13:34] <santa_> https://imgflip.com/i/kc6sh
[13:35] <santa_> ... to avoid this kind of issues?
[13:35] <santa_> I have some scriptery to do that in a reliable way for siduction
[16:18] <ahoneybun> I have gotten the funds
[16:23] <ahoneybun> any advise in booking the plane?
[16:27] <ahoneybun> Riddell: valorie ^
[17:03] <ahoneybun> ticket booked
[17:04] <ahoneybun> "Skip the taxi line. 42 people booked rooms in La Coruna last week. "
[20:11] <ahoneybun> Riddell: Ticket booked
[21:38] <valorie> ooo, I got to get on the stick
[21:38] <valorie> ahoneybun beat us!
[22:05] <ahoneybun> lol
[22:06] <ahoneybun> I see that the nvidia prime bug is off the list
[22:47] <ahoneybun> soee: ^
[22:48] <soee> ahoneybun: yes liek week now
[22:49] <soee> ahoneybun: https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/5z3k8xaP1FA
[22:49] <ahoneybun> yay
[22:49] * ahoneybun installs
[23:26] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: ping
[23:38] <sgclark> valorie: I have not even heard back for funding..
[23:38] <valorie> eeek
[23:38] <valorie> actually, I've not applied yet
[23:39] <valorie> I will do so this weekend
[23:39] <valorie> gosh, how did time go so quickly?
[23:39] <sgclark> okies, I am starting to get concerned though
[23:39] <valorie> did you find your birth cert?
[23:39] <sgclark> yep, applied for nexus
[23:39] <valorie> oh cool
[23:39] <sgclark> just need that interview thingy
[23:39] <valorie> I got mine, but have not finished the application
[23:40] <valorie> will do that this weekend as well
[23:40] * ahoneybun is just waiting on his Passport
[23:40] <ahoneybun> kontact can't access KWallet... I swear I put in my password
[23:42] <sgclark> I just need funding.. and as much work as I have put in... I will not be a happy camper if denied.
[23:43] <valorie> I would like funding as well, but could possibly swing it without
[23:43] <valorie> you however, not only need it, you *deserve* it
[23:46] <valorie> anyway, GSoC comes first, I have a job to do this weekend, and that must be done
[23:47] <valorie> and I think I have to mow the lawn tomorrow before the rains come back
[23:47] <valorie> living alone is challenging!
[23:47] * valorie goes off to eat, fold laundry and visit the parental unit
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2024-05-13T22:11:00.220939
| 2015-04-18T00:00:00
|
2015-04-18-#ubuntu-locoteams
|
{
"authors": [
"Kilos",
"PabloRubianes",
"pankaj",
"ubuntiste-msakni"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-locoteams",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:75",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/18/%23ubuntu-locoteams.txt"
}
|
ubuntu-chat
|
[06:36] <pankaj> hii
[06:36] <pankaj> Is anyone there??
[08:25] <Kilos> greetings all
[10:54] <Kilos> ha ubuntiste-msakni how am i supposed to recognise you with this funny nick?
[10:55] <Kilos> what happened to cheche?
[12:01] <ubuntiste-msakni> hey Kilos :D hahaha :D Nothing happened to the other ones, I have 3 registered nicknames.. When I login from an other computer my irc client uses one of the too others.. same thing in case of a network disconnection & connection
[12:01] <Kilos> you are forgiven
[12:16] <ubuntiste-msakni> :)
[12:16] <Kilos> hi PabloRubianes
[12:16] <PabloRubianes> hi Kilos
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2024-05-13T22:11:00.236576
| 2015-04-18T00:00:00
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2015-04-18-#xubuntu-devel
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ubuntu-chat
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[00:08] <krytarik> slickymaster: Just put "test: get-translations" in the first one too - I seem to have overlooked that, even though I checked then.
[06:42] <ochosi> jboul: hi! you were the one sending an email about testing to the ML?
[06:43] <jboul> yes actually that was me. Hi!
[06:43] <ochosi> welcome then :)
[06:43] <jboul> Thank you very much. glad to be here..
[06:44] <ochosi> if you wanna help out with testing, you'd ideally get in touch with elfy (he's the testing lead)
[06:44] <ochosi> but ofc oftentimes others in here will also be able to help you
[06:44] <ochosi> right now we're running ISO tests for the release candidate of 15.04
[06:45] <ochosi> if you wanna help with that, that would be 1) a good starting point, since it's not rocket science and 2) most welcome!
[06:45] <jboul> Ya I really wanted to get involved in the testing I have read and learned how to go about doing the testing
[06:46] <ochosi> this email summarizes things nicely: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-April/010712.html
[06:46] <jboul> ya i would love to help ;)
[06:46] <jboul> alright ill read it now
[06:46] <ochosi> reporting your results on the tracker is quite important btw, otherwise we have no way of knowing how your tests went
[06:46] <ochosi> cool
[06:47] <jboul> thank you so much for hthe help
[06:47] <ochosi> and as i said, if you have questions, always feel free to ask
[06:47] <ochosi> however, you might also have to be patient at times
[06:47] <ochosi> ppl aren't always around ;)
[06:47] <ochosi> (but your messages are read and get replied to later in that case)
[06:48] <jboul> Alright sounds awesome. It's really helpful to have actual people to ask for help instead of searching through guides for hours lol
[06:51] <jboul> One thing i was wondering was if went it came to testing for example a package and you see that someone already has tested it should i still test it again?
[06:52] <jboul> Actually now that i think about that it would make sense to test it on multiple systems
[06:55] <ochosi> yeah
[06:55] <ochosi> that's one aspect
[06:55] <ochosi> but generally speaking we rarely focus on single packages
[06:56] <ochosi> best way to test individual programmes is by using them, i.e. by installing the development version of xubuntu and using it on a daily basis. (but that's just my approach)
[06:57] <ochosi> anyway, gotta go, bbl
[06:57] <jboul> alright thanks ttyl
[07:42] <elfy> ochosi: thanks - that guy was someone who mailed me yesterday :)
[07:58] <knome> i guess a quick reply on the mailing list pointing to the general contribution urls (probably with a note that we already met this person so we wouldn't go into the details) would be good PR
[07:59] <knome> i can do that later when i actually sit down on a computer
[08:00] <knome> elfy, just checking that i've understood when watching it from afar so far -
[08:00] <elfy> knome: if you're able later - I just mailed list with details for Vivid Final - a bump on social stuff would be \o/
[08:00] <knome> is the reboot/shutdown issue existent only after the first occurrence after installing, or does it affect the installed system too?
[08:01] <knome> that i can do now
[08:01] <knome> well twitter, that is
[08:01] <elfy> ta :)
[08:01] <knome> want me to specifically link to the latest mail?
[08:01] <elfy> the reboot/shutdown issue is only about 'remove the install media and press Enter'
[08:02] <elfy> after it works
[08:02] <knome> ok
[08:02] <elfy> yep - 2 secs
[08:02] <knome> i have the link
[08:02] <elfy> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-April/010719.html
[08:02] <elfy> lol - ok :)
[08:02] <knome> thanks anyway ;)
[08:03] <elfy> I'll kncok up a general mail to the lists when I'm drinking the next cuppa :)
[08:03] <knome> ta
[08:03] <knome> i'll be off most of the day once i am off
[08:03] <knome> which is in the next 60 mins
[08:03] <elfy> I'm just chilling all day - not moving much further than up or downstairs :D
[08:04] <knome> hehe
[08:05] <knome> https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/589338788926775297
[08:05] <knome> there we go
[08:05] <elfy> thanks :)
[08:06] <elfy> I'll ping pleia2 to bump the others - which is what I just did :D
[08:06] <knome> no problemo
[08:06] <knome> yep
[08:52] <ochosi> elfy: np, he sent the email to all admins of -testing, so i received it as well ;)
[08:55] <elfy> oh right - didn't know that :)
[08:55] <elfy> still - thanks :D
[10:22] <elfy> bug 1445622
[10:22] <elfy> gvfs or something ?
[10:22] <elfy> obviously not just Thunar
[10:36] <elfy> ochosi: other than the remove media bug and the above misplaced bug, looking good at the moment
[10:45] <brainwash> elfy: anything about gvfs in the logs?
[10:46] <brainwash> somehow ~/.local/share/Trash cannot be created
[10:46] <elfy> brainwash: not looked tbh
[10:46] <brainwash> or the gvfs trash process has crashed
[10:46] <elfy> I'll see if I can find something
[10:47] <elfy> just obviously NOT thunar if lubuntu and ubuntu have issues too
[10:47] <brainwash> ~/.cache/upstart/startxfce4.log I think
[10:47] <brainwash> and the dbus.log one too
[10:47] <elfy> k - ta
[10:48] <PaulW2U> elfy: but not a problem in kubuntu. strange
[10:48] <brainwash> gvfs is a gnome thingy
[10:48] <brainwash> most likely not used in KDE/Kubuntu
[10:48] <PaulW2U> brainwash: right
[10:49] <elfy> nothing showing in those 2 logs
[10:53] <ochosi> elfy: great! that's good to hear
[10:53] <brainwash> test with http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/utopic/en/man1/gvfs-trash.1.html
[10:54] <brainwash> maybe it gives some helpful error message
[10:54] <elfy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIEqdXpG5Pg
[10:54] <elfy> oops
[10:54] <elfy> not that for sure :D
[10:55] <elfy> Error trashing file: Unable to find or create trash directory
[10:56] <brainwash> so, blame the one who upgraded the gvfs package! :)
[10:56] <elfy> :)
[10:57] <elfy> if I sudo gvfs-trash file - it works
[10:58] <elfy> mostly this is about it not being a Thunar bug :D
[10:58] <brainwash> I cannot test it right now, would have to dl the ubuntu iso
[10:58] <elfy> I've got Ubuntu and Lubuntu images up to date
[10:59] <elfy> I'll check them both now
[10:59] <elfy> if I get the same - I'll change it to gvfs
[11:01] <elfy> lol so Lubuntu does not have gvfs-trash installed
[11:07] <elfy> brainwash: thanks for changing package, added another comment - including that deleting a folder works as expected
[12:09] <bluesabre> good morning everyone
[12:12] <bluesabre> elfy: on the tracker, why do the upgrade tests use 20150416 and not 20150417.1?
[12:45] <elfy> bluesabre: not a clue - but spoke out in -release
[12:46] <elfy> that said, no downloads are available from the upgrade tests - so you'd need to grab a copy elsewhere, which would be 20150417.1
[12:55] <GridCube> oh... well then P: i still need to upgrade to utopic to try so maybe on monday it will be available ?
[12:56] <bluesabre> thanks elfy :)
[13:06] <elfy> GridCube: hope so
[13:06] <elfy> bbl
[13:06] <bluesabre> elfy...
[13:06] <elfy> bluesabre: yep?
[13:06] <bluesabre> just messing with you, go on, bbl :P
[13:06] <elfy> LOL
[13:06] <elfy> hatez you
[13:06] <bluesabre> :D
[13:07] <elfy> still think you broke the remove media button somehow :p
[13:09] <bluesabre> probably did
[13:09] <bluesabre> somehow
[13:09] <elfy> ha ha ha
[13:10] <elfy> well - really off now - have a good day :)
[13:15] <bluesabre> you too, seeya
[14:21] <slickymaster> hey everybody
[14:24] <Luyin> hi slickymaster
[14:25] <slickymaster> o/
[14:26] <Luyin> slickymaster: I cannot but think of hitler when you write this :D
[14:27] <slickymaster> blaarrrgh for sending the wrong message then Luyin :P
[14:28] <Luyin> ;)
[14:29] <slickymaster> :)
[14:40] * drc is wondering which is more nerve wracking, release "when it's ready" and ready keeps slipping (debian, slackware) or "you WILL release on schedule" and then don't (cough, cough). :)
[16:13] <OvenWerks> Interesting bug in xfce as installed 14.04 (so it may be fixed by now) with regards to a second pannel on a two monitor setup.
[16:13] <OvenWerks> the second pannel is on the second (nonmaster) monitor.
[16:14] <OvenWerks> when choosing full screen for a window on the master screen, space is left for the pannel (that is not there) but on the second screen, part of it ends up under the pannel.
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| 2015-04-18T00:00:00
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2015-04-18-#ubuntu-us-mi
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"_stink_",
"cmaloney"
],
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"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:77",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/18/%23ubuntu-us-mi.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
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[14:39] <cmaloney> Good morning
[14:59] <_stink_> hello
[16:06] <cmaloney> Afternoon now. :)
[20:20] <cmaloney> Hanging out at the hospital for FIL
[20:26] <_stink_> scheduled or unscheduled?
[20:30] <cmaloney> unscheduled, of course. ;)
[20:47] <_stink_> ah bummer.
[20:48] <cmaloney> Yeah, no worries.
[20:49] <cmaloney> I'm in a waiting room with a computer and two folks that stormed in here, changed the channel and promptly fell asleep
[20:49] <cmaloney> Reminded me a lot of "Keeping Up Apperances" Onslow and his wife
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2024-05-13T22:11:00.271279
| 2015-04-28T00:00:00
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2015-04-28-#ubuntu-us-or
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"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:78",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/28/%23ubuntu-us-or.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
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[00:11] <wxl> oh man, lfnw rules.
[00:35] <wxl> sgclark: just a friendly reminder to send along that packaging info mentioned. hope you're resting. still on the bus here.
[05:40] <wxl> sgclark: look what i found: trying out snappy core and it's transactional updates using kvm https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/#snappy-local
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2024-05-13T22:11:00.311812
| 2015-04-28T00:00:00
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2015-04-28-#launchpad-dev
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"authors": [
"blr",
"cjwatson",
"lifeless",
"thomi",
"wgrant",
"xnox"
],
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"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:79",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/28/%23launchpad-dev.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
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[07:00] <wgrant> blr: Evening.
[07:09] <blr> wgrant: morning!
[07:10] <wgrant> blr: I saw that your default clone_from thing landed, testing it now.
[07:10] <wgrant> Did you make any progress on the init with alternates?
[07:10] <blr> wgrant: merged your recent changes into the alternates branch as well now, which is much better - only change in the view is docstrings for repo:repo
[07:10] <wgrant> Great.
[07:11] <blr> the only thing I'm a little uncertain about is that there is now obvious place to cleanup the ephemeral repo - I've added a repo_cleanup() method to both diff functions, but it might be better to have a sweeper do this later
[07:11] <blr> s/now/no/
[07:12] <wgrant> I think that using a context manager makes sense.
[07:13] <wgrant> eg. "with open_repo(blahblah) as repo:" would ensure that it's always cleaned up at the end.
[07:45] <wgrant> The autocloning stuff works well, with one unforeseen issue.
[07:45] <wgrant> The connectivity check on push uses rev-list --not --all, but --all only looks in the local ref.
[07:45] <wgrant> s
[07:46] <wgrant> So my first push to ~wgrant/ubuntu/+source/linux took a bit over a minute, as it ended up walking the entire tree when it had no known-good refs.
[07:46] <wgrant> It may be worth patching git to let rev-list consider alternate refs as well.
[07:47] <wgrant> But it's just a bit slow on first push, not a serious problem.
[07:47] <wgrant> Particularly not for sensibly sized repos.
[07:50] <wgrant> blr: What d oyou think of the context manager approach to ensure the ephemeral repo is always cleaned up?
[07:56] <blr> wgrant: yep that sounds sensible, I'll have another pass
[07:57] <wgrant> Thanks.
[07:57] <wgrant> Let me know how it goes.
[10:14] <blr> wgrant: open_repo() is a contextmanager now, that should be ready for you
[10:15] <wgrant> blr: Let me see.
[10:16] <wgrant> lifeless: I think you can do away with repo.ephemeral and cleanup_repo now, since you only call cleanup_repo in the ephemeral case.
[10:17] <wgrant> Er
[10:17] <wgrant> blr: ^^
[10:17] <wgrant> This ssh latency is really awful for typing.
[10:19] <blr> wgrant: quite, that's a fairly useless function now.
[10:20] <blr> ok pushed
[10:22] <wgrant> blr: Couple of other trivial comments, then I think it's all good.
[10:24] <blr> wgrant: hmm actually, in get_commit repo=None is used to prevent us re-initialising repositories in get_commits
[10:24] <wgrant> Ah, that's right.
[10:24] <blr> not certain how to perserve that nicely in the context of the context manager
[10:25] <wgrant> blr: Maybe get_commits and get_commit should call a private method which just takes a repo that must already be open.
[10:27] <blr> that sounds reasonable, I'll sort that out in the morning, getting late
[10:27] <blr> thanks wgrant
[10:27] <wgrant> Night.
[10:35] <cjwatson> wgrant: https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/git-fix-clone-from-owner-default/+merge/257622 if you get a minute, little bit of cleanup
[10:37] <cjwatson> wgrant: Creating MPs on the webservice now works, though https://code.qastaging.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/germinate/+git/germinate/+ref/exp/+merge/254302 will OOPS in the web UI for now.
[11:58] <wgrant> cjwatson: Nice, how's the testing of the remaining KLOC going?
[12:11] <cjwatson> wgrant: Making progress, just thinking about how to mangle TestRegisterBranchMergeProposalView suitably.
[12:11] <cjwatson> wgrant: Have you heard anything from IS?
[12:13] <wgrant> cjwatson: We're yellow.
[12:13] <cjwatson> Ah yes, thanks for the score bump.
[12:48] <cjwatson> wgrant: Is there any equivalent of SQLObjectVocabularyBase for Storm?
[12:55] <wgrant> cjwatson: I don't think so.
[12:57] <cjwatson> I wonder if I should write one. I just noticed that GitRepositoryVocabulary is wrong.
[12:58] <wgrant> It would not be a huge task.
[16:55] <cjwatson> https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/storm-vocabulary-base/+merge/257655 https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/git-mp-basic-browser/+merge/257674 https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/git-mp-register/+merge/257676 are all the MP stuff I have so far, except for my in-progress stuff on preview diffs.
[16:56] <cjwatson> Should be (barely) enough to go live with.
[17:24] <xnox> cjwatson: did you see recent discussions about git / merge proposal workflows on debian-devel et.al.?
[17:25] <xnox> cjwatson: it would be cool if launchpad would support emailing in git-bundle(1) to create mp just like one can with bzr bundles
[17:25] <cjwatson> xnox: I noticed the thread, but we have a fair bit still to do before getting to that kind of point
[17:26] <xnox> cjwatson: sure. plus i believe git-bundle has insufficient information as usual in the git world. E.g. bzr bundle encodes public/parent/submit branch locations, and git bundle does not as far as i remember....
[17:27] <wgrant> bzr bundle slso hasn't worked since 2009
[17:28] <xnox> wgrant: the email interface or the bundles themself?!
[17:29] <cjwatson> Yes, I wondered why I couldn't find any of this alleged-to-exist code
[17:29] <xnox> i sure used bundles as recent as 2013-2014 e.g. generate it somewhere throw into usb-stick or email and pull from it on the other end....
[17:29] <wgrant> bundles never worked with 2a
[17:29] <wgrant> so the LP side was removed
[17:34] <xnox> wgrant: just tested works here.... created --unchanged commit, branched, created --unchanged commit, bzr bundle ../first-branch, then branch first branch again and pulled from the bundle
[17:34] <xnox> got matching revision-ids out of it....
[17:34] * xnox is sad =(
[17:43] <wgrant> ah yes, the unchanged test :P
[17:43] <wgrant> that crestes little new 2a data
[18:15] <xnox> wgrant: well i did merges and the like... and it didn't fail me.
[18:16] <xnox> althoguht plenty of things are broken with ghost revisions
[18:24] <wgrant> hmmm
[18:30] <lifeless> wgrant: I can? thanks
[18:34] <wgrant> lifeless: 500ms sucks
[18:38] <lifeless> aye, where art thou?
[18:38] <wgrant> Malta
[18:38] <lifeless> nice
[18:38] <wgrant> after Austin and London
[18:38] <lifeless> I don't miss those trips
[18:39] <wgrant> it's certainly a new experimebt in blood caffeine content
[20:19] <blr> this looks like it might be useful https://github.com/libgit2/pygit2/pull/525
[20:39] <cjwatson> blr: I thought about backporting it, but reckoned I could probably just reuse the stuff in LP (actually bzrlib I think) for now and no rush to backport. But I might change my mind if that turns out to be non-trivial :)
[20:39] <cjwatson> (That is, it looked like it'd be less work to reuse)
[20:41] <blr> right
[20:42] <cjwatson> We'll see - I'm going to try to finish the LP side of preview diffs tomorrow
[22:51] <lifeless> wgrant: whats em1.rapid.c.c ?
[22:51] <lifeless> cjwatson: ^
[22:51] <lifeless> thomi: ^
[22:52] <lifeless> blr: ^
[22:52] <lifeless> any two-letter nicks around ?
[22:57] <cjwatson> lifeless: replacement for batuan, if you remember that
[22:57] <lifeless> cjwatson: no; I've just got hold of the ops VG so we're good
[22:57] <lifeless> cjwatson: thanks
[22:57] <cjwatson> VPN endpoint for misc crap
[23:01] <wgrant> lifeless: what was it spamming you with?
[23:01] <lifeless> wgrant: git requests. see #openstack-infra. blahdeblah is on it
[23:04] <thomi> hmmm?
[23:05] * thomi makes whooshing motion above his head
[23:05] <wgrant> hmm
[23:05] <lifeless> thomi: outbound NAT gateway for OIL it appears
[23:05] <cjwatson> not totally implausible
[23:06] <thomi> I know what some of those words mean, so yay!
[23:06] <wgrant> for moat of the weird non-IS-managee labs
[23:06] <thomi> wgrant: how's Malta? Actually its the CI nature of it that led me to ping you
[23:09] <thomi> ahh
[23:09] <lifeless> non-CI doesn't need many many many accesses to the same git repos
[23:09] <wgrant> yep
[23:09] <thomi> blissfull ignornace is my motto...
[23:09] <lifeless> thomi: and I hear you've done some CI stuff
[23:09] <wgrant> anyway, night avain
[23:10] <lifeless> wgrant: night, thanks. cjwatson ditto
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| 2015-04-28T00:00:00
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2015-04-28-#ubuntu-on-air
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|
ubuntu-chat
|
[15:59] <dpm> o/
[15:59] <balloons> hello hello
[16:01] <akiva-thinkpad> hey
[16:01] <balloons> howdy
[16:01] <dpm> hi akiva-thinkpad
[16:01] <dpm> starting in a minute
[16:04] * ian-weisser yawns
[16:04] <akiva-thinkpad> zzzzzzzzzzz
[16:04] <balloons> we're live!
[16:05] <ahayzen> yey \o/
[16:05] <SHAHJEE> LINK REQUIRED FOR WUBI FOR 15.04
[16:05] <akiva-thinkpad> QUESTION: Any issues with SystemD so far?
[16:05] <akiva-thinkpad> QUESTION: Is systemD on the phone yet?
[16:07] <akiva-thinkpad> QUESTION: Has W been decided yet for 15.10? Do you have any ideas what it should be?
[16:07] <dragon77> QUESTION:When you switch to the snappy based ubuntu image,will there be some sort of legacy support for .deb and .click packages inside of that image?Do youhave any contingency plans for the applications that will not switch to snappy?
[16:08] <sassy_> can i know when will ubuntu phone be launched in india and how can i access ?
[16:08] <balloons> keep'em coming, we'll keep answering :-) thanks guys!
[16:08] <akiva-thinkpad> QUESTION sassy_ can i know when will ubuntu phone be launched in india and how can i access ?
[16:10] <veribaka> QUESTION: How do we handle the snappy packages in a command line? What is the aptitude/apt equivalent?
[16:10] <akiva-thinkpad> QUESTION: Can Balloons grow a curly mustache for the UOS?
[16:10] <davmor2> SHAHJEE: wubi is depreciated so there is no installer for inside windows anymore
[16:10] <akiva-thinkpad> Wobbly windows!
[16:11] <akiva-thinkpad> Wascally Wabit!
[16:11] <akiva-thinkpad> Worthless Wubi
[16:11] <PaulW2U> Wacky Wombat
[16:11] <akiva-thinkpad> Warty Walmart
[16:12] <SHAHJEE> OK. So then how to dual boot PC ?
[16:12] <jnxd> What Windows?
[16:12] <balloons> https://github.com/mikix/deb2snap
[16:12] <akiva-thinkpad> QUESTION: Microsoft said it could see itself open sourcing windows in the future. Any thoughts on it?
[16:14] <ian-weisser> QUESTION: When will Desktop Ubuntu finish converting to Python3?
[16:14] <akiva-thinkpad> ian-weisser, lol good question
[16:15] <ahayzen> QUESTION: Which session in UOS are you most looking forward to next week? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/all/
[16:15] <dpm> http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[16:16] <dpm> http://davidplanella.org/announcing-the-next-ubuntu-online-summit/
[16:16] <Whinocewos> hi all
[16:16] <dpm> thanks ahayzen :)
[16:16] <akiva-thinkpad> Whinocewos, hi!
[16:16] <akiva-thinkpad> Wascally whinocewos!
[16:16] <Whinocewos> Wibbly
[16:16] <ahayzen> dpm, :)
[16:16] <sassy_> this is my first session, how will i know if my question is answered?
[16:16] <akiva-thinkpad> QUESTION: Will Mark Shuttleworth be at the Ubuntu Online Summit for another Q&A?
[16:17] <akiva-thinkpad> sassy_, it was just answered :)
[16:17] <akiva-thinkpad> North America!
[16:18] <sassy_> i also asked when will the ubuntu phone be launched in india and how can i access ?
[16:18] <Whinocewos> Question: How will Ubuntu 15.10 be named?
[16:18] <akiva-thinkpad> sassy_, they answered, and its.... mmmmmmm you need to followup with meizu
[16:18] <akiva-thinkpad> Whinocewos, already been asked
[16:18] <sassy_> :)
[16:18] <balloons> veribaka, checkout out https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/tutorials/using-snappy/ and https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/
[16:18] <akiva-thinkpad> lol
[16:19] <dragon77> QUESTION:When will we be able to package snappy packages from the SDK?
[16:19] <Whinocewos> akiva-thinkpad: oh, i missed that :>>
[16:19] <akiva-thinkpad> Whinocewos, the answer was "Wobbly Windows"
[16:19] <Whinocewos> :))))
[16:19] <akiva-thinkpad> that is the name of the next release
[16:20] <akiva-thinkpad> curly!
[16:20] <akiva-thinkpad> Drats
[16:20] <akiva-thinkpad> \o/
[16:21] <Whinocewos> Question: when and how can we upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10? (i want to use Ubuntu 15.10 from the first day)
[16:21] <Nothing_Much> who said windows is going to be open sourced?
[16:22] <Nothing_Much> hope that doesn't happen, honestly
[16:22] <akiva-thinkpad> Nothing_Much, not going, but it is a possibility
[16:22] <Nothing_Much> it better not
[16:22] <akiva-thinkpad> Nothing_Much, lol why?
[16:22] <Nothing_Much> it's probably kill Linux if that happened
[16:22] <Nothing_Much> it'd*
[16:22] <ian-weisser> QUESTION: What is your single favorite feature of Snappy?
[16:22] <akiva-thinkpad> Nothing_Much, mmmmm their software kind of sucks
[16:22] <toddc> linux action show has a good interveiw with MS about MS open source direction
[16:22] <akiva-thinkpad> ever used powershell?
[16:23] <Nothing_Much> akiva-thinkpad: anything that Microsoft has ever made sucks
[16:23] <akiva-thinkpad> Nothing_Much, what about comic sans?
[16:23] <Nothing_Much> that's a font, right?
[16:23] <akiva-thinkpad> Nothing_Much, yeah, the best one
[16:23] <ian-weisser> QUESTION: What feature of Snappy do you worry people won't understand?
[16:24] <sassy_> can i install ubuntu on my htc one v > single core 512mb mobile?
[16:24] <Nothing_Much> akiva-thinkpad: any program that Microsoft has made is horrible
[16:24] <Nothing_Much> including their OS
[16:24] <akiva-thinkpad> QUESTION: Where did you get the 25 million users of ubuntu figure from?
[16:25] <dragon77> Windows is not going to be open source.However ever since their new boss took charge it is a talking topic.Windows is not even free of charge yet.And if windows goes open source,it does not mean Linux will die,but Linux and Windows would exchange a lot of features until someone made a fusion of windows and Linux.
[16:25] <Whinocewos> QUESTION: can we install multiple versions of the same app on snappy and run them in the same time?
[16:25] <Nothing_Much> QUESTION: Is there a possible .deb to .Click package program that exists?
[16:25] <sassy_> can i install ubuntu on my htc one v > single core 512mb mobile?
[16:26] <dragon77> QUESTION:Will there still be a version of Ubuntu with unity8 that has .deb and .click?
[16:26] <akiva-thinkpad> lol!
[16:26] <dpm> ian-weisser, http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22469/python-plans-for-lts/ :)
[16:27] <ian-weisser> QUESTION: Other than Snappy and Unity8, what other exciting changes are in store for aroud 16.04?
[16:27] <Whinocewos> QUESTION: are there any plan for a launchpad update? it's getting long in the foot
[16:27] <ian-weisser> dpm: Thanks. That wasn't there yesterday.
[16:27] <sassy_> well i was waiting for an answer on >can i install ubuntu on my htc one v > single core 512mb mobile?
[16:28] <balloons> ian-weisser, here's the session: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22469/python-plans-for-lts/
[16:28] <k1l_> QUESTION: is there a date for snappy packages to hit desktop-next iso?
[16:29] <akiva-thinkpad> Woot!
[16:31] <ian-weisser> balloons: Thanks. That wasn't there yesterday.
[16:31] <akiva-thinkpad> lol
[16:32] <balloons> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22408/the-ubuntu-sdk-roadmap/
[16:32] <balloons> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22409/sdk-team-qa/
[16:32] <dpm> http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[16:33] <akiva-thinkpad> QUESTION: Who came up with the Origami Aesthetic? Its brilliant~
[16:33] <balloons> http://uds.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/join-a-session/ for those who might be new during UOS
[16:34] <dpm> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/all/
[16:34] <balloons> or by day: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/2015-05-05/display
[16:34] <dpm> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/2015-05-05/display
[16:35] <akiva-thinkpad> QUESTION: Is the HUD implimented in Unity8 yet? Are either of you running it full time yet?
[16:37] * ahayzen remembers balloons confusing apt on ahayzen's laptop at Malta ;)
[16:37] <akiva-thinkpad> QUESTION: Would you consider btrfs stable enough yet? Do you think using something as friendly as QML as the main language in Unity 8 will help increase the number of people who can help shape the Unity 8 shell itself compared to the Unity 7?
[16:38] <akiva-thinkpad> LukeWarmwater, good question, and yet
[16:38] <akiva-thinkpad> yes
[16:38] <jono> hey folks
[16:39] <akiva-thinkpad> jono, !!!!!
[16:39] <jono> hey akiva-thinkpad :-)
[16:39] <ahayzen> o/
[16:39] <jono> hey ahayzen :-)
[16:39] * jono listens to the dulcet tones of balloons
[16:39] <akiva-thinkpad> Whats new with xprize?
[16:40] <balloons> here's the snappy security model: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/SnappyConfinement
[16:40] <jono> akiva-thinkpad, trying to figure out the right path forward :-)
[16:40] <LukeWarmwater> The next bunch of ubuntu releases should be named after the most frequently asked question about it. 15.10 should be called Whatitcalled.
[16:40] <akiva-thinkpad> jono, very cool!
[16:41] <jono> akiva-thinkpad, it has been a ride :-)
[16:41] <jono> akiva-thinkpad, how are you?
[16:41] <akiva-thinkpad> LukeWarmwater, I like "Worthless Wubi"
[16:41] <akiva-thinkpad> given how many askubuntu questions revolve around failed installations with it
[16:41] <akiva-thinkpad> jono, delicious.
[16:41] <akiva-thinkpad> thanks!
[16:41] <ian-weisser> QUESTION: If you had to give advice to your Ubuntu-using Grandmother about all the changes with Snappy and Unity8 coming, what would you say?
[16:42] <akiva-thinkpad> jono, I liked your demo of the bq at the insider events.
[16:42] <jono> thanks akiva-thinkpad :-)
[16:42] <akiva-thinkpad> microsoft said ubuntu had millions with its cloud services
[16:43] <jono> QUESTION: I saw ScottK's blog post about UOS and in the comments there was a discussion about whether UOS has value bringing people together, or whether independent hangouts outside of UOS are better - what do you guys think?
[16:43] <alex02012> "weighty wallaby" should be the name for 16.04
[16:44] <akiva-thinkpad> alex02012, 15.10*
[16:44] <akiva-thinkpad> alex02012, 1604 is x
[16:44] <ian-weisser> jono: Oooh, that's a very good one.
[16:44] <jono> :-)
[16:45] <balloons> Nothing_Much, https://github.com/mikix/deb2snap
[16:45] <alex02012> aktiva-thinkpad, you´re right :-)
[16:45] <akiva-thinkpad> :]
[16:48] <xuacu> QUESTION: Is Ubuntu i18n system left behind the general improvements in Ubuntu developement?
[16:50] <akiva-thinkpad> QUESTION: Which former community do you miss most, and wish would return someday?
[16:53] <balloons> o/ jono, didn't see you slip in here :-)
[16:53] <akiva-thinkpad> lol
[16:53] <jono> balloons, :-)
[16:56] <jono> :-)
[16:58] <chris___> I have a question What is the advantage of Ubuntu Phone over Android ?
[16:58] <akiva-thinkpad> QUESTION: Have either of you been progamming in golang yet? Thoughts?
[16:59] <akiva-thinkpad> QUESTION chris___ What is the advantage of Ubuntu Phone over Android ?
[17:00] <akiva-thinkpad> good question
[17:00] <Gigahurtz> Hi everybody
[17:01] <Gigahurtz> new aquaris e4.5 owner here
[17:01] <akiva-thinkpad> hi Gigahurtz !
[17:01] <balloons> hi Gigahurtz !
[17:01] <jono> thanks for the answer, dpm, balloons
[17:01] <akiva-thinkpad> QUESTION What irc client do you use?
[17:01] <jono> also, keep up the excellent work!
[17:01] <everybody> hello Gigahurtz
[17:02] <jono> the community is fortunate to have you leading the charge :-)
[17:02] <balloons> jono, do I sense a blog post from you?
[17:02] <balloons> jono, thanks for asking, good quesitons
[17:02] <akiva-thinkpad> former community member * dpm
[17:02] <jono> balloons, LOL, not this time around :-)
[17:02] <jono> balloons, I have enough bloody writing on my hands these days :-)
[17:02] <Gigahurtz> I undestand the os on the phone is very new
[17:02] <balloons> jono, yes, your new column has been interesting reading
[17:02] <jono> thanks balloons
[17:02] <jono> it has been fun to do
[17:02] <jono> just planning my next one
[17:03] <balloons> it suits you well
[17:03] <balloons> good fit :-)
[17:03] <jono> thanks!
[17:03] <Gigahurtz> how do users report bugs and suggestions?
[17:03] <jono> starting to do a Forbes one, this is more uncertain :-)
[17:03] <akiva-thinkpad> Gigahurtz, good question
[17:03] <dpm> thanks jono!
[17:04] <akiva-thinkpad> Gigahurtz, it depends. For specific apps, you go to the launchpad page for that project
[17:04] <Gigahurtz> the phone is lacking some very basic features that we need working to be taken seriously by even techie consumers
[17:04] <Gigahurtz> like me. Lol
[17:05] <akiva-thinkpad> Gigahurtz, are you interested in app development?
[17:05] <Gigahurtz> thx akiva
[17:05] <balloons> Gigahurtz, be sure to attend UOS next week and talk and share about these things
[17:05] <Gigahurtz> I plan to dabble in paps. I'm a noob
[17:05] <balloons> there's an entire app development track, and you can be involved!
[17:06] * dpm high-fives balloons
[17:06] <akiva-thinkpad> Gigahurtz, if you are interested in learning qml and helping the ubuntu core apps, come over to #ubuntu-app-devel
[17:06] <dpm> thanks all!
[17:06] <Gigahurtz> wish I could attend but duty calls at work. Grrrr
[17:06] <ahayzen> thanks balloons dpm :)
[17:06] <akiva-thinkpad> bye!!!!!
[17:06] * balloons high-fives dpm back
[17:06] <Gigahurtz> thx akiiva
[17:06] <balloons> this was most enjoyable. really nice questions everyone!
[17:07] <akiva-thinkpad> Gigahurtz, we also have the ubuntu online summit coming up. Come participate with a team and offer your feedback
[17:07] <akiva-thinkpad> help plan new features
[17:07] <ian-weisser> Good session. You guys are at your most persuasive when talking about stuff you really care about.
[17:07] <akiva-thinkpad> ^
[17:08] <Gigahurtz> sounds good I will keep my eye out for the online summit
[17:09] <Gigahurtz> I think a clear road plan of what needs fixing and implementing in the coming months.
[17:09] <Gigahurtz> is needed
[17:11] <akiva-thinkpad> Gigahurtz, :) i'm busy until then, but if you want an introduction to programming with ubuntu, let me know.
[17:11] <akiva-thinkpad> We also run a subreddit
[17:11] <akiva-thinkpad> /r/ubuntuappdev
[17:12] <Gigahurtz> Thank you
[17:12] <ian-weisser> Gigahurtz: A clear road plan is a tall order. See the Ubuntu Online Summit for that.
[17:12] <Gigahurtz> will check it out. Thx
[21:17] <fifty> hello, how do i upgrade 14.04 ubuntu to 15? it wont update
[21:18] <k1l> fifty: try #ubuntu for support
[21:19] <fifty> i figured someone here would have the answer which would save me time ha. thanks for your help anyway
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[16:02] <pitti> o/
[16:03] <mdeslaur> hi pitti
[16:06] <mdeslaur> pitti: not a big turnout, is everyone sprinting or what? :)
[16:06] <pitti> mdeslaur: yes, I figure quite a bunch of folks are on Malta
[16:07] <pitti> mdeslaur: nothing new on the ML or agenda, so I guess we'll just skip?
[16:07] <infinity> Erm, I seem to be late.
[16:07] <infinity> Unless we're skipping.
[16:08] <infinity> Them I'm just psychic.
[16:08] <mdeslaur> yeah, I guess we'll skip
[16:08] <mdeslaur> infinity: you on malta too?
[16:10] <infinity> mdeslaur: No, I'm home, but stunningly late to the meeting because I was talking to someone in Malta. :P
[16:10] <mdeslaur> ok, have a nice afternoon everyone, meeting cancelled
[16:14] * pitti waves
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[07:58] <rogpeppe2> jog: hiya
[14:10] <jcastro_> marcoceppi, http://askubuntu.com/q/614067/235
[14:45] <jcastro> https://askubuntu.com/questions/611564/how-does-juju-get-the-private-address-of-a-node
[14:45] <jcastro> any help here would be appreciated!
[15:19] <mwak> Hi, Is it possible to add node app charm for trusty?
[15:23] <jrwren> mwak: yes. Also consider making a charm for your app. The ghost charm is a good example of a node app.
[17:45] <anacapa> hi folks, get problems while bootstrap JUJU
[17:45] <anacapa> the error msg is: WARNING juju.replicaset replicaset.go:93 Initiate: fetching replication status failed
[17:46] <anacapa> JUJU version: 1.22.1-trusty-amd64
[17:46] <anacapa> 2015-04-28 16:55:54 WARNING juju.replicaset replicaset.go:93 Initiate: fetching replication status failed: cannot get replica set status: can't get local.system.replset config from self or any seed (EMPTYCONFIG)
[17:47] <anacapa> any suggestions? thx a lot
[19:34] <plars> Is the version of juju-deployer in ppa:juju/stable compatible with newer versions of juju? I'm hitting an error when I try to run juju-deployer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10929342/
[19:35] <plars> juju: 1.20.11-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[19:35] <plars> juju-deployer: 0.4.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04.1~ppa1
[19:35] <rick_h_> plars: try to install the python-jujuclient first? v 0.50 is in the ppa
[19:36] <rick_h_> plars: sudo apt-get install python-jujuclient and then try the deployer again?
[19:36] <plars> rick_h_: at some point in the past, it all used to work from this machine. I have things deployed already, but it's not one I have total control over, so I think landscape may have upgraded some things underneath me
[19:37] <plars> python-jujuclient: 0.17.5-0ubuntu2
[19:37] <plars> rick_h_: ^
[19:37] <plars> rick_h_: which also seems to be the newest
[19:37] <rick_h_> plars: right, but https://launchpad.net/~juju/+archive/ubuntu/stable
[19:37] <rick_h_> plars: oh hmm, what version are you on?
[19:38] <rick_h_> plars: python-jujuclient 0.50.1-2
[19:38] <rick_h_> plars: what distro version that is?
[19:38] <plars> rick_h_: 14.04.2
[19:39] <plars> rick_h_: at some point in the past, we needed a newer juju-deployer but wanted to stick to an older juju version (I thought we had 1.18, but unfortunately it may have been upgraded). I know things worked after that, but when I tried to update our deployment with a current copy of the yaml file, it gave me that pastebinned error
[19:40] <rick_h_> plars: right, well what you're hitting is that you've got a deployer looking for the 0.50 jujuclient lib
[19:40] <rick_h_> plars: nothing to do with juju version tbh
[19:40] <plars> strange that it would now start looking for that?
[19:40] <rick_h_> plars: well if the deployer upgraded but the python-jujuclient didn't it might cause that
[19:41] <rick_h_> plars: ~/bin/tmux_split_custom -v
[19:41] <rick_h_> whoops
[19:41] <rick_h_> plars: so curious if you can upgrade the python-jujuclient package on your system at all
[19:41] <plars> I'm certain that it worked with this version of juju-deployer in the past, and I can't envision how jujuclient may have been downgraded
[19:41] <plars> rick_h_: I can't personally, but I can ask for it
[19:42] <rick_h_> plars: sorry, no idea about the history of it but just telling you the error in that traceback is the deployer python looking for the python-jujuclient python lib > 0.18 (which is the 0.50.1
[19:42] <plars> rick_h_: ack, thanks!
[23:43] <f2> does mramm hang out in #juju on occasion?
[23:45] <f2> jamespage: congrats on your prompt shipping of 0.94.1 — I was thrilled to see it in 15.04
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[00:00] <MisterMom> ok do i have to do anything extra or will installing them take care of things ?
[00:01] <MisterMom> i dont want to mess with a perfectly good system lol
[00:01] <Unit193> If you install xscreensaver, I'd remove light-locker. You can check preferences for xscreensaver for locking and screensaver options.
[00:01] <MisterMom> ok thanks
[00:02] <MisterMom> sounds easy enough
[00:32] <pjotter> Hello everybody. Does anybody know if there is a sollution yet for the problems with lightlocker in 14.04?
[00:33] <pjotter> I just did a clean install and noticed that the screen still blanks after 10 minutes or so, no matter how light locker is set. I used to completely remove lightlocker and install xscreensvaer instead. But maybe there is better fix for this
[04:38] <jetage> Since installing Xubuntu 15.04, shell scripts don't execute on a mouse click, instead opening in an editor. Any idea what adjustment needs made?
[05:23] <pragomer> how can I set up the keyboard layout of light-locker in xubuntu 14.04 ? it uses english although my system language is german
[06:09] <varaindemian> Is it safe to deactivate guest account on xubuntu 15.04?
[06:10] <cfhowlett> varaindemian, yes
[06:10] <varaindemian> cfhowlett: and how do I do that?
[06:11] <varaindemian> I tried gksu thunar /usr/share/gvfs/mounts/network.mount^C
[06:11] <cfhowlett> varaindemian, not like that ...
[06:11] <varaindemian> and modified AutoMount to false
[06:11] <varaindemian> cfhowlett: and it's not working
[06:11] <varaindemian> ye
[06:11] <varaindemian> is it in settings?
[06:12] <cfhowlett> varaindemian, I'm behind the great firewall, so my google is broken. search: xubuntu guest account disable
[06:12] <varaindemian> the great firewall?
[06:13] <cfhowlett> varaindemian, "china"
[06:13] <varaindemian> cfhowlett: I see
[06:14] <Unit193> varaindemian: Just set [SeatDefaults]\nallow-guest=false in the lightdm config.
[06:14] <Unit193> I personally have /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-noguest.conf installed with a custom package, but /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf may be easier.
[06:15] <varaindemian> what is that AutoMount?
[06:15] <varaindemian> shouldn't that be set on false?
[06:16] <Unit193> Are you also looking to edit settings in thunar-volman-settings ?
[06:19] <varaindemian> in 50-guest-wrapper.conf I have this: [SeatDefaults]
[06:19] <varaindemian> guest-wrapper=/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-guest-session
[06:20] <Unit193> Good for you?
[06:22] <varaindemian> I don t see any "allow-guest"
[06:22] <Unit193> You won't.
[06:22] <varaindemian> Do I need to add that line?
[06:23] <Unit193> echo allow-guest=false | sudo tee -a /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[06:23] <varaindemian> like "allow-guest = false"
[06:24] <elfy> varaindemian: the above is a command to run in terminal which will do what you need
[06:26] <varaindemian> thank you guys for your patience, but I want to know where is that file I should edit
[06:26] <elfy> the file to edit IS in that command
[06:26] <Unit193> And mentioned before.
[06:27] <elfy> indeed
[06:27] <varaindemian> pasted /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf in file manger and nothing happened
[06:27] <elfy> why would it?
[06:27] <elfy> you need to edit it with a text editor
[06:30] <varaindemian> tried gksu thunar /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[06:30] <varaindemian> and I got this
[06:31] <varaindemian> failed to open...
[06:31] <elfy> right
[06:31] <elfy> try with a text editor - like mousepad
[06:32] <varaindemian> elfy: worked and the file is empty :D
[06:32] <elfy> do you actually read what people tell you?
[06:32] <elfy> or just some of it?
[06:34] <varaindemian> elfy: I know echo... willdo the job but I'm trying to edit it manually
[06:34] <elfy> ok - so edit it - the information has been given to you
[06:35] <varaindemian> thank you
[06:36] <Unit193> Add [SeatDefaults] at the top.
[06:38] <varaindemian> Unit193: ok
[07:13] <thyphus_> hi. i tried xubuntu 15.04 with two displays. my problem is that the "primary display" option does not affect anything. i want to have the panel on the right display, but it's still on the left display (not the primary). in the panels options for the display "automaticly" is selected (i don't want to choose the right display as it's not working if i undock my notebook)
[07:47] <Luyin> thyphus_: screenshot of what you have?
[07:53] <ochosi> thyphus_: yeah, the xfce panel doesn't support that option (yet), however, other panels (like plank) do. the xfce panel always appears on the top left screen by default
[07:55] <pragomer> where is xubuntu's autmount option saved (autmount of drives) ?
[07:57] <thyphus_> ochosi: ouh, okay. is there a bugreport already open?
[07:58] <ochosi> pragomer: thunar > edit > preferences > advanced > volume management
[07:58] <ochosi> thyphus_: i think there already are bugreports for the various components that could support the primary display option
[07:59] <pragomer> do you know where this option is save in config-file?
[07:59] <thyphus_> ochosi: okay. thank you
[07:59] <ochosi> thyphus_: np
[08:00] <ochosi> pragomer: open xfce4-settings-editor, channel is thunar-volman
[08:00] <pragomer> oh I see.. its the file volmanrc I think
[08:00] <ochosi> no, it should be in xfconf
[08:00] <ochosi> unless you use a very old version of it
[08:06] <pragomer> ochosi you mean me ?
[08:06] <ochosi> well yes, there aren't so many other people here that i'm talking to right now :)
[08:08] <pragomer> mm.. yes.. you are right.. did not work (I want to use it inside a remastering script..)
[08:08] <pragomer> so you mean: /home/xubuntu/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/thunar-volman.xml ?
[08:08] <ochosi> yup
[08:09] <pragomer> ok, let me try..
[08:16] <HsAsMKMy> when i use gksu to open applications, the mouse cursor always show busy for a long time. it bothers me.
[08:20] <HsAsMKMy> is there a way to avoid this ?
[08:52] <pragomer> @ochosi... thunar-volman.xml is completly ignored when copying it to /etc/skel
[08:52] <pragomer> other things I copy to "skel" they work..
[09:25] <pragomer> thunar-volman.xml is always resettet
[09:30] <brainwash_> pragomer: do you manually edit it?
[09:35] <pragomer> I manually edit it on my host system... setting "true" to "false" (I dont want to automount media/drives/...) And I copy it with my remastering-script to /etc/skel/.config/..... or in a 2nd try I copy it to /etc/xdg/..... but when I look a live-users's "thunar-volman.xml" there is "TRUE"
[09:35] <pragomer> it is ignored...
[09:38] <brainwash_> you mean /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu ?
[09:41] <brainwash_> also, are other files copied and used correctly?
[09:44] <pragomer> No, I just copy this one file: http://pastebin.com/W5M9PXxY
[09:46] <brainwash_> do you start the normal Xfce session?
[09:46] <brainwash_> files for the Xubuntu session are located in /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu
[09:50] <pragomer> Yes, its the normale xfce/xubuntu session.. I will try to copy it to /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu
[09:56] <pragomer> It did not work: http://pastebin.com/Eq5DbKNj
[09:57] <pragomer> Although I changed the target to /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntu/.....
[09:57] <pragomer> it is still ignored..
[10:06] <brainwash_> pragomer: I have no idea then. sadly, I'm not familiar with the process of remastering the iso
[10:55] <pragomer> no problem. thank you
[11:34] <xubuntu04w> does anyone else have the problem that the "docky"-panel at the bottom stops rendering but still seems to be active and clickable?
[11:36] <xubuntu04w> Just when I start Xubuntu the panel is shown and the graphical rendering is working. Then I click a program, use a internet browser and pang it stops rendering
[11:48] <knob> Hello hello!
[12:04] <xubuntu782> Hello all, Its seems I have some problems with the pakcage .... avahi-daemon[1180]:
[12:04] <xubuntu782> sb could help me?
[12:05] <xubuntu782> xubuntu avahi-daemon[1180]: Invalid response packet from host fe80::6e3b:e5ff:fe05:292f
[12:05] <xubuntu782> Invalid response packet from host <IP_ADDRESS>.
[13:40] <holstein> xubuntu782: when doing what?
[14:30] <ed_> help please! toughbook running 14.04 and stable for ages. today networking went down and suspected nm-applet. removed it from bar, killed it off, ran from command line but just does nothing. have limited internet access via bluetooth but need wifi and wwan back asap. any thougts please?
[14:41] <ochosi> ed_: i presume you have tried rebooting already?
[14:42] <ochosi> or at least restarting the session
[14:47] <ed_> hi, i missed your message. yes tried the standard reboot, batt out, etc. killed nm-applet, ran from command line. shows in task man, but not having any effect
[14:48] <ed_> ifconfig lists network interfaces ok
[14:50] <koegs> so, lspci show the wifi-card?
[14:51] <ed_> yes all ok
[14:51] <koegs> whats the the output of "iwconfig" and "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan"?
[14:53] <ed_> interface doesnt support scanning: network is down
[14:54] <ed_> iwconfig gives expected if list
[14:55] <koegs> the wifi card is called wlan0?
[14:55] <ed_> yes
[14:55] <koegs> hm, what does "rfkill list" say?
[14:55] <bynarie> you guys know how touchy the windows are when resizing? like you have to have your cursor in the exact spot? anyway to change those settings?
[14:56] <ed_> softbocked yes hardblocked no
[14:57] <koegs> do you have a FN-Key to disable WiFi?
[14:58] <ed_> no, but i disabled it with nm-applet while diagnosing why ping was lost on wifi, now i have no nm-applet!
[14:58] <koegs> you can start it in a terminal with "nm-applet &"
[14:59] <ed_> yes that starts it in task manager but not added to task bar
[15:01] <ed_> tried to reinstall it with apt-get but not found
[15:01] <xubuntu06w> hello
[15:02] <xubuntu06w> how can i update xubuntu when i clicked away the update notice from my software updater
[15:02] <holstein> xubuntu782: in a terminal, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:04] <xubuntu06w> hmm, dist-upgrade does not find anything which is needed to be upgraded
[15:04] <ed_> got disconnected
[15:05] <TimeVirus> I used a program called MultibootUSB to put Linux Mint Xfce 64 on a 32 GB Flash drive - that live USB does not boot, so I want to remove all the files on that drive but I cannot - its telling me I do not have permission. When I try to chown -hR the Directory its telling me there is no such directory. What am I doing wrong. I want this brand new flash drive back!
[15:05] <ed_> koegs: still there?
[15:06] <TimeVirus> I cannot reformat, cannot remove, cannot install a new ISO
[15:08] <freiform> bynarie, hold <alt> and right-click a windows for easy resizing.
[15:09] <KW4HK> TimeVirus: does gparted do anything with it?
[15:09] <ed_> koegs: just installed wicd, network lists coming up now and connected to my router, but still no nm-applet and still no ping
[15:12] <bynarie> freiform, doesnt seem to work for me =[
[15:13] <freiform> bynarie, holding alt down while right-clicking and moving a window does not resize it?
[15:13] <bynarie> oh sorry i didnt right click, yes it does work
[15:13] <bynarie> thank you freiform
[15:13] <bynarie> =]
[15:14] <freiform> bynarie, you're welcome
[15:14] <bynarie> cant believe i never knew this lol
[15:14] <freiform> jupp, took me some time, too ;)
[15:15] <bynarie> well thanks for the tip!
[15:15] <TimeVirus> KW4HK, nope gparted says it has a GPT table
[15:15] <TimeVirus> and this is seems corrupted
[15:15] <TimeVirus> I'm going to have to learn dd I gues
[15:20] <xubuntu32w> hey removed the wifi icon from panel because they were duplicate and now don t know how to reinstall it
[15:20] <xubuntu32w> any ideeas?
nm-applet from the command line
[15:24] <ed_> i am having deeper issues with nm-applet at the moment. mine wont work at all
[15:26] <xubuntu32w> for me as well
[15:29] <xubuntu32w> it happened that i had double icons for wifi before, when updating xubuntu and then i found an article that was instructing not use of the terminal but it was from a folder similar with control panel *windos system* and i could see the icons and deselect. Am not talking about add a panel. Unfortunely i ve been looking alot on the internet but don t seem to find that article again, nor to remember the name of control panel xubuntu
[15:48] <rinki> help! my nm-applet has gone down
[16:00] <xubuntu848> hello
[16:01] <ed_> hello
[16:01] <lderan> hello :)
[16:01] <rinki> hi
[16:01] <xubuntu848> I'm installing xubuntu
[16:02] <rinki> i have a problem. nm-applet wont run and i can only use internet via bluetooth now. i cant access wlan or wwan
[16:02] <lderan> good to hear
[16:02] <lderan> rinki: oh dear
[16:03] <rinki> can you help me?
[16:03] <KW4HK> csn u run nm as root?
[16:04] <rinki> nm a.out :no such file
[16:06] <rinki> it does not do any help
[16:07] <rinki> oh, sudo nm-applet work but taskbar icon is blank. i can click and see my wwan, but not wifi
[16:10] <knome> you shouldn't run nm-applet as root
[16:14] <xubuntu41w> ok, after digging around, i have all the icons in the guest session, Talking especially about wifi, but how do i readd it in my session?
[16:21] <rinki> hi
[16:22] <rinki> xxxxx
[16:22] <ed_> hi rinki
[16:23] <rinki> does anyone here know how to fix nm-applet?
[16:23] <ed_> not me i have the same problem. its very quiet in here!
[16:23] <xubuntu41w> exactly the topic of the day
[16:24] <xubuntu41w> i have the icon in my guest session but not in my normal session
[16:24] <xubuntu41w> people can hack banks but nobody seems able to readd the icon in the panel
[16:24] <rinki> i can only run it as sudo but then my wifi is missing
[16:25] <xubuntu41w> my wifi is working is just the icon missing...
[16:25] <ed_> same here, only sudo, and no wifi. icon crashs with my user account
[16:26] <xubuntu41w> yup and the battery icon the same, but as soon as i switch to guest i can see them in the panel
[16:28] <ed_> yes my battery icon is also gone. never noticed till you said it
[16:31] <xubuntu41w> looked in so many sites and so many articles
[16:31] <xubuntu41w> and no solution
[16:31] <xubuntu41w> for something that should be sensible
[16:33] <ed_> mine has been fine for over a year, then pow!
[16:34] <xubuntu41w> happened when updating to 12 and now again, for f sake shouldn t be this hard
[16:34] <futurestack> I feel like I've ..always had nm-applet in .xinitrc or somesuch
[16:35] <brainwash> did you remove indicator plugin from the panel configuration?
[16:35] <knome> xubuntu41w, please remember this is a family-friendly channel
[16:36] <xubuntu41w> yup removed it from my session because was duplicate, but the battery icon dissapeared on it s own. i have everything in guest session,
[16:36] <ed_> i have removed and replaced icon in taskbar before, thats easy. this is different
[16:37] <xubuntu41w> how do you do that?
[16:37] <ed_> bug 1302462?
[16:38] <ed_> hope bits a fix i can click on!
[16:39] <brainwash> fixed in 15.04. you may need to change stuff manually in previous releases
[16:46] <xubuntu41w> anybody a solution?
[16:47] <brainwash> for which problem exactly?
[16:47] <xubuntu140> Hello all, I have some problems because the instalation of xubuntu never ends....
[16:48] <xubuntu140> Apr 28 16:45:00 xubuntu avahi-daemon[1180]: Invalid response packet from host fe80::7646:a0ff:fe4f:ddf. Apr 28 16:45:22 xubuntu avahi-daemon[1180]: Invalid response packet from host <IP_ADDRESS>.
[16:48] <brainwash> xubuntu140: how is this log message related to your problem?
[16:49] <xubuntu41w> deleted my wifi icon from my session and don t seem to find how to reinstall it
[16:49] <brainwash> how did you delete it?
[16:50] <xubuntu41w> after updating appeared two of them and battery icon dissapeared. clicked remove on one but both dissapeared
[16:51] <xubuntu41w> but internet still works and i have all icons on guest session
[16:52] <brainwash> sounds like you have removed the notification and/or indicator area
[16:52] <brainwash> readd add the to your panel
[16:52] <brainwash> -add
[16:52] <xubuntu41w> don t have the option anymore in the add new item to panel
[16:54] <brainwash> which elements does the item list contain?
[16:54] <xubuntu41w> asked if delete permanent and clicked yes, thinking deletes only one of them
[16:54] <brainwash> so, you should be able to readd them
[16:54] <xubuntu41w> launcher, action buttons, applications, clock
[16:54] <xubuntu41w> the option is not in there
[16:55] <xubuntu41w> have every option there, but not the battery icon nor the wifi icon to add
[16:56] <brainwash> no, you have to add the "notification area" and "indicator area"
[16:56] <xubuntu41w> i have notification area
[16:56] <xubuntu41w> but i can not add it
[16:57] <brainwash> what about indicator area?
[16:57] <xubuntu41w> only indicator plugin
[16:57] <brainwash> yes, that's the one
[16:59] <xubuntu41w> ok will switch session and see, so i go indicator plugging and the then the notification area will become active as well?
[17:02] <xubuntu41w> i ll try it. thank you very much hope will work
[17:02] <brainwash> hopefully it will work :)
[17:21] <matadores> italy?
[17:21] <matadores> hi
[17:22] <matadores> xubuntu italy?
[17:22] <krytarik> !it | matadores
[18:31] <aziz> what could be the reason that my loudspeaker icon disappeared from the system tray, since upgrading to 15.04?
[18:35] <r0n> Hi guys.
[18:35] <r0n> I just instaled xubuntu 15.04 on my laptop and now it's randomly shutting down.
[18:35] <r0n> Everything was fine with 14.04
[18:36] <r0n> Logs doesn't show anything as it's just shuts down like a power surge
[18:51] <s0d0m> my computer stopped again
[18:51] <s0d0m> don't know if anybody answered
[18:51] <s0d0m> i am now trying with upstart
[19:54] <pjotter> Does anybody know how to fix the issues with lightlocker? My Xubuntu 14.04 (clean install) blanks the screen no matter how lightlocker is set. It is as if the system is not reponding to any of the lightlocker setting at all.
[19:56] <mrkramps> pjotter, output of following command:$ xset q | grep -A 2 Screen
[19:56] <pjotter> Screen Saver:
[19:56] <pjotter> prefer blanking: yes allow exposures: yes
[19:56] <pjotter> timeout: 600 cycle: 600
[19:57] <mrkramps> XServer blanks screen with internal screen saver every 600 seconds
[19:57] <pjotter> I also tried this "xset s noblank; xset s 0 0; xset s off " But still the screens blanks after 10 minutes
[19:57] <pjotter> mrkramps: Where can I set it to "never". I already tried everything in light-locker and the power settings
[19:58] <pjotter> I
[19:58] <pjotter> I 'm about to completely get rid of light-locker altogether. Just hoping there might be a sollution to this persisting problem
[19:59] <mrkramps> pjotter, did you try to disable light-locker?
[20:00] <pjotter> Yes, it just doesn't respond at all
[20:00] <mrkramps> pjotter, when screen is locked?
[20:00] <pjotter> It is almost as if the system totally ignores the light-locker settings.
[20:02] <pjotter> Currently I disabled lightlocker, put blank screen to 'never' and switch of display to 'never'. Still the screen keeps blanking after 10 minutes
[20:02] <mrkramps> and xset s off?
[20:02] <mrkramps> altogether?
[20:03] <pjotter> Same thing for powersettings. I put both screenblanking slides to 'never'
[20:03] <pjotter> I tried xset s off. But still the screen keeps blanking after 10 minutes.
[20:04] <pjotter> In a recent install I had the same problems so I completely removed light-locker and installed xscreenaver instead. That worked.
[20:06] <mrkramps> pjotter, xscreensaver worked pretty well for quite some time before light-locker
[20:06] <mrkramps> there is no reason to no use ist
[20:06] <pjotter> I know. But at some point the Xubuntu community desided to replace it with this light-locker (that doesn't work)
[20:06] <mrkramps> or any other "light locker" like i3lock or slock
[20:07] <pjotter> Maybe a silly question: But what is light-locker anyway? Is it essential to the Xubuntu system?
[20:07] <mrkramps> no as far as i know
[20:08] <drc> pjotter: "The solution Xubuntu uses in 14.04 is called light-locker. The light-locker project is a fork of gnome-screensaver 3.6, but cut down to a bare minimum (so no gnome-dependencies), using LightDM’s greeter as the lock (and unlock) screen."
[20:08] <drc> from http://xubuntu.org/news/screen-locking-in-xubuntu-14-04/
[20:09] <pjotter> Hmm.. well I never use sessionlocking anyway
[20:09] <pjotter> I guess I could just purge it form the system?
[20:09] <mrkramps> yes
[20:09] <mrkramps> noticed no negative drawback on my system
[20:09] <pjotter> I'll just do that. I just can't seem to get the thing to work properly
[20:10] <pjotter> With every clean install on nearly every computer I install Xubuntu, this problem occurs.
[20:10] <krytarik> pjotter: light-locker doesn't do any *blanking* in the first place though.
[20:10] <pjotter> krytarik: Why does it have a "blank screen" option?
[20:11] <krytarik> pjotter: But, xscreensaver overrides the DPMS settings.
[20:11] <krytarik> That's used to control those too, by just adding an autostart file.
[20:12] <krytarik> pjotter: That'd be "~/.config/autostart/screensaver.desktop".
[20:12] <hTmlDP> hello
[20:13] <hTmlDP> i'm trying to hibernate my eeepc1201pn
[20:13] <hTmlDP> and it looks like it can't do it.
[20:13] <hTmlDP> well, the button does work, but it like gets stuck while trying to hibernate
[20:14] <hTmlDP> the screen goes black but the power button is still blue
[20:14] <hTmlDP> any idea?
[20:15] <pjotter> I also have an Eeepc 12-something. I only know that there are major issues with hibernating/sleeping/waking etc... I just avoid those situations
[20:15] <genii> ..maybe it's still plugged in ...?
[20:15] <hTmlDP> it used to work with Debian wheezy
[20:15] <hTmlDP> genni: what do you mean?
[20:15] <hTmlDP> genii* ^
[20:17] <genii> hTmlDP: For instance when my laptop is powered off but still on power cord charging, the poser button stays lit. It only goes out entirely when I pull the physical cord from it
[20:17] <genii> poser/power
[20:17] <hTmlDP> genii: i've tried without AC
[20:18] <mrkramps> encrypted drives?
[20:18] <hTmlDP> + the screen is powered on, but black
[20:19] <hTmlDP> mrkramps: what do you mean?
[20:19] <mrkramps> do you use disk encryption?
[20:19] <hTmlDP> mrkramps: i don't think so.
[20:19] <hTmlDP> i have win7 here too
[20:20] <mrkramps> swap parition big enough?
[20:21] <drc> hTmlDP: It might help if you let us know what version of Xubuntu you are using?
[20:24] <drc> hTmlDP: mrkramps might have a point...how much RAM do you have and how big is your swap aprtition?
[20:31] <drc> hTmlDP: And are you sure you are trying "hibernation" and not "suspend" Suspend to RAM method cuts power to most parts of the machine aside from the RAM and Suspend to disk (Hibernation) method saves the machine's state into swap space and completely powers off the machine.
[20:32] <mrkramps> from what i've been reading now hibernation should be disabled by default ?!
[20:33] <drc> IIRC, correctly, but can be enabled (if one really wants it).
[20:36] <mrkramps> last but not least, it just might be buggy or not properly supporting this perticular netbook
[20:37] <drc> and/or version of Xubuntu (which he still hasn't told us)
[20:38] <drc> So, until we get more information from her/him, I'm out.
[21:28] <sleezio> hello, i know linux formats don't need defragging, but i have a USB 3TB HD formatted NTFS, whats a good defrag app?
[21:29] <mrkramps> sleezio, windows?
[21:29] <sleezio> mrkramps, linux app(if there is one)
[21:30] <mrkramps> sleezio, none of which i know
[21:30] <sleezio> thanks
[22:00] <oraydio> hi?
[22:00] <knome> hello.
[22:01] <oraydio> hi *nod*
[22:21] <oraydio> I installed Xubuntu by way of the mac version of Ubuntu 14.04. I removed Ubuntu Unity and such with some instructions I found, but now the buttons to change the backlight on my Macbook Pro keyboard don't work. Volume and display brightness buttons work. Does anyone know if that's something peculiar to Xubuntu or if I removed something that made that work? I haven't been able to find any recent complaints about that problem.
[22:22] <knome> you likely removed something that made it work
[22:23] <oraydio> any ideas on how I pin down what that was?
[22:23] <knome> technically, xubuntu isn't supported on macs, so unless somebody else on this channel has ventured and tried the same... not really
[22:23] <knome> you might be better asking on #ubuntu, since it shouldn't be related to the DE anyway
[22:24] <Unit193> You could try to install the task and see if it brings anything important in.
[22:24] <Unit193> !info pommed
[22:25] <oraydio> Ooh. okay.
[22:26] <Unit193> oraydio: Speaking as a person that's never used Linux on a mac, that looks like it! :P
[22:26] <Unit193> That'd not have been installed by default in Ubuntu though.
[22:26] <Unit193> There's also a graphical frontend.
[22:29] <oraydio> hm. okay. that'll probably do it. thank you. I'm trying to breathe life back into an old macbook pro, so I'm completely new to using Linux. I'm amazed how easy it is to break while I'm fiddling >_<
[22:29] <Unit193> :D
[22:30] <Unit193> Err, I mean. That's a bummer that you lost the backlight.
[22:30] <oraydio> haha. not really important, just irksome now
[22:32] <oraydio> I've broken stuff several times now and had to reinstall. "Learn by breaking," I always say. o_o
[23:01] <Reptilia> How can i know if a particular PPA is safe for usage? Are there methods of some kind to help me if a PPA is "legit"?
[23:01] <knome> Reptilia, the answer is the same though
[23:15] <Reptilia> knome:Is there a way to limit the laptop fan' RPM with a utility of some kind? I've installed the "PowerTOP" Utility and i see that when i will turn on a video on Youtube, the laptop is getting noisy, producing that high pitched whine. I am using a Thinkpad T410.
[23:15] <knome> i don't know (and you don't need to ping specific people, anybody here can help))
[23:15] <Reptilia> Yeah, sorry for that
[23:16] <knome> the problem with limiting the speed is that then your laptop will get hot and you likely don't want that either.
[23:16] <Unit193> Dust it out.
[23:16] <knome> that
[23:21] <Reptilia> knome:Yup, true.
[23:22] <Reptilia> Unit193:I doubt it's because of the dust, i think it's the "coil whine", which is a known problem in the T410, 420, 440p, etc...
[23:22] <Reptilia> Unit193:But if you say so, i will try that :)
[23:28] <MrSassyPants> how do I enable middle-mouse-click paste?
[23:31] <MrSassyPants> or alternatively, how do I enable "mark stuff and then it's copied"
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[07:36] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:52] <TwistedLucidity> MooDoo: Indeed it is.
[07:52] <TwistedLucidity> And a good one too
[07:52] <TwistedLucidity> It's sunny, not a cloud in the sky and the last day of the grind for a while.
[07:52] <TwistedLucidity> Yay! \o/
[07:55] <MooDoo> bit cloudy here, but it's good although it was a bit cold this morning
[08:18] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: no idea what you mean
[08:25] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: why do you find our nicks confusing?
[08:26] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:36] <diplo> popey: You are very diplomatic I must say
[08:36] <popey> heh
[08:37] <diplo> Basically want to sell something but I can't be bothered to learn how to do it properly :/
[08:37] <popey> well, debian packaging isn't straightforward
[08:38] <diplo> Yeah but as you say, first hit when googling for it returns good results, he's just not trying
[08:38] <bashrc> debian package is not that hard, but has a lot of rules
[08:40] <ali1234> good results for how to make debian packages? no, they don't exist
[08:40] <diplo> :)
[08:42] <directhex> in the simplest case, debian packaging is really easy
[08:42] <directhex> but knowing how to handle anything beyond the simplest case is often learned knowledge, rather than googleable knowledge
[08:44] <diplo> yeah its what I mentioned in my emails, jot down what you do and learn by your mistakes until you find the correct way of doing things
[08:44] <ali1234> there is no way to even know if you are doing it correctly or not
[08:44] <directhex> that';s the problem
[08:44] <directhex> and causes people to propagate "the wrong way"
[08:44] <directhex> because the way they found works for them
[08:44] <ali1234> right, and there are a very large number of wrong ways to do it
[08:44] <directhex> i've been doing packaging since 2006, and am still making mistakes
[08:45] <ali1234> i still maintain that packaging is harder than writing the software in the first place
[08:45] <directhex> packaging apps is easy
[08:46] <directhex> 3 minute job
[08:46] <diplo> I packaged SQLite into an RPM a few months ago, that was an experience :) but a few clean vm's later and documents I got it to build and work
[08:46] <foobarry> packaging is easy on rhel distros
[08:46] <directhex> packaging libraries is much harder than apps
[08:46] <directhex> as you need to think much harder about how a library interacts with other packages
[08:47] <directhex> i also work full time on this stuff now, for both rpm and deb. i would say both have their highlights, but rpm is much more stupid on average
[08:47] <ali1234> packaging apps that are written in C/C++/something else native and have an autotools build script and don't have any dependencies that aren't already packaged - is just about as easy as it gets
[08:48] <ali1234> and it still isn't particularly easy
[08:48] <directhex> easy enough to fit the full instructions in a tweet
[08:52] <popey> https://steamcommunity.com/games/SteamWorkshop/announcements/detail/208632365253244218
[08:52] <popey> why was everyone up in arms about paid mods?
[08:52] <popey> is it because there's the danger it would be like IAP on mobile?
[08:53] <ali1234> no
[08:53] <ali1234> it's because the split was ridiculous
[08:53] <ali1234> they should have launched it with someone willing to take a smaller cut
[08:55] <popey> oh, the mod maker only gets 25%?
[08:55] <ali1234> right
[08:55] <popey> I can see why then.
[08:55] <popey> that's bonkers.
[08:55] <ali1234> i mean it depends entirely on the mod
[08:55] <ali1234> that's the problem
[08:56] <popey> sure
[08:57] <ali1234> i mean say someone makes a skin for a weapon model in skyrim
[08:59] <ali1234> that's worth maybe $1 tops to the end user
[08:59] <ali1234> maybe not even that
[08:59] <TwistedLucidity> Silly question, why does Bethesda get a cut of someone else's work? Don't they make money from selling the game and running the severs?
[09:00] <ali1234> the split doesn't seem to bad in that case
[09:00] <TwistedLucidity> I guess they could claim they provide a service to the modders as well and need paid for that.
[09:00] <ali1234> but say someone makes a total conversion
[09:01] <ali1234> then the split is going to really inflate the price to the point it will cost twice as much as the original game
[09:01] <ali1234> so if anything it will discourage large mods, and have everyone making the mod equivalent of shovelware instead
[09:08] <TwistedLucidity> Well, that's easy. The first $0.50 plus 25% (or other figure) goes to Bethesda; the rest to the modder. Not sure what cut Steam wants.
[09:09] <ali1234> 35%
[09:09] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Cubicle Day! :-D
[09:10] <MooDoo> morning JamesTait
[09:10] <TwistedLucidity> ali1234: Steam wants 35%? For what, exactly?
[09:10] <TwistedLucidity> Even PayPal doesn't take that much!
[09:10] <ali1234> for running the store, handling payments, and downloads
[09:11] <foobarry> a la playstore/apple store
[09:11] <ali1234> the more important question is why does bethesda deserve 30%?
[09:11] <ali1234> sorry, 40%
[09:11] <TwistedLucidity> ali1234: For licensing the valuable IP. Or something.
[09:12] <ali1234> moddrs aren't distributing any IP
[09:12] <directhex> valve take 30% on all store transactions, as the vendor
[09:12] <directhex> every game, every bit of dlc
[09:12] <directhex> it's their standard rate
[09:12] <TwistedLucidity> Not sure what work Bethesda has to do to support modders.
[09:12] <TwistedLucidity> If any....
[09:12] <ali1234> directhex: except for mods, they wanted 35%, for no explainable reason
[09:12] <ali1234> unless i have been misinformed
[09:13] <TwistedLucidity> But they'll take whatever the market will stand, if the market will stand a 40% cut....then that's what Bethesda gets. Seems the market couldn't stand that.
[09:13] <directhex> ali1234: valve took 30%, beth took 45%
[09:13] <ali1234> okay
[09:13] <TwistedLucidity> And corrected.
[09:13] <directhex> as per http://www.bethblog.com/2015/04/27/why-were-trying-paid-skyrim-mods-on-steam/
[09:14] <ali1234> in any case, i don't think people had anything against steam charging in the same ballpark that they always do, which is the same as every digital distributor anyway
[09:15] <ali1234> it was always ethesda's cut that people were unhappy with
[09:15] <TwistedLucidity> OK, so Bethesda created some kind of toolkit. How much that cost, how often it gets used....I dunno. 40% seems rather high, especially as the mod gets bigger and bigger.
[09:16] <TwistedLucidity> Flat fee + smaller cut would seem to make more sense. Or maybe the cut scales down as the cost of the mod scales up?
[09:16] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls
[09:16] <TwistedLucidity> The only one paying extra for large mods would appear to be Steam in terms of storage, transfer etc etc.
[09:18] <directhex> TwistedLucidity: the concern is that beth get paid to make a broken game
[09:19] <directhex> TwistedLucidity: e.g. "skyui" is considered essential by many skyrim players - it makes the inventory system mouse-friendly rather than just using the same inventory as the consoles (which is chunky, for TV viewing). skyUI went paid-only
[09:19] <directhex> so why should bethesda get paid 45% of the money people paid for skyui to fix bethesda's bad UI?
[09:21] <TwistedLucidity> directhex: I dunno, which was kinda my point. They should get a cut for making the modder-tooling (whatever that may be) but is 40% the right amount in all cases?
[09:21] <TwistedLucidity> Either way, if the market (i.e. the modders) will accept Bethesda taking a 40% cut, then a 40% cut Bethesda will take.
[09:22] <ali1234> but they won't, and they should have known that
[09:22] <ali1234> should have launched with a developer/publisher willing to take a 5% or less cut
[09:22] <ali1234> probably an indie
[09:26] <awilkins> 40% does seem like rent seeking
[09:27] <awilkins> I mean, they made those tools principally for authoring their own game content, so it's paid for. People who bought Skyrim already licensed all the IP in it. Modders are only adding to that, why should Bethesda take any cut at all?
[09:28] <awilkins> If they beavered away and made the mod for their own amusement, they'd pay Bethesda dick squat nothing
[09:28] <awilkins> But because they distribute it for cash, Bethesda should get a cut of the money from people who's money they already have?
[09:29] <awilkins> Pardon for slightly channel-inappropriate language
[09:29] <awilkins> Thought I was in the other channel I discuss gaming in.
[09:34] <TwistedLucidity> awilkins: Do modders pay Betheda for the Skyrim tool-kit?
[09:36] <foobarry> people get so worked up about games
[09:36] <awilkins> TwistedLucidity, No, it's a free download if you already have the game... so I guess they paid for it in their game license.
[09:36] <awilkins> I would have strong suspicions that it's Bethesda's internal toolkit for making Skyrim content anyway
[09:36] <TwistedLucidity> awilkins: Ah, gotcha. In that case I'd still expect to pay Bethesda a bit (for bug fixes etc etc) just not 40%.....
[09:37] <awilkins> Ok, they probably added things like Steam Workshop integration
[09:37] <awilkins> But the mod community is a large part of why Skyrim still sells
[09:38] <awilkins> The value they get from people making mods worth selling is that people will still want to buy Skyrim
[09:39] <TwistedLucidity> I see no issue with the software OEM taking a cut for writing the software (it's simpy a different payment model) but 40% does seem to be overvaluing the software, especially as it doesn't scale with the effort the software's user puts in.
[09:40] <TwistedLucidity> Same goes for Valve. 30% seems awfully high, but maybe they don't have the economies of scale yet (or maybe they do have genuinely high costs)
[09:41] <awilkins> Naah, I think Valve are printing money
[09:41] <awilkins> Have you seen the Valve employee manual?
[09:41] <TwistedLucidity> Well, clearly the market is accepting the rates they set.
[09:41] <TwistedLucidity> awilkins: Not working for Valve; no.
[09:41] <awilkins> Oh, it's been put up on the web
[09:42] <awilkins> By Valve! https://www.valvesoftware.com/company/Valve_Handbook_LowRes.pdf
[09:42] <awilkins> The section that came to mind is "How to enjoy the corporate vacation." They charter a jet, and take everyone off on holiday.
[09:43] * TwistedLucidity wishes he was good enough to work for Valve
[09:44] <awilkins> It sounds freaking awesome
[09:44] <awilkins> You decide what you work on.
[09:44] <awilkins> You decide how you work on it.
[09:44] <awilkins> You decide who you work with.
[09:44] <awilkins> Valve is kind of a snapshot into what work would be like with a Universal Basic Income
[09:45] <directhex> but
[09:45] <directhex> valve are not afraid to fire you if your performance figures don't look good
[09:46] <directhex> and they are happy if their recruitment process rejects 99% of people who would be perfect for the company, to avoid risking hiring someone who interviews well but isn't very good in real life
[09:46] <awilkins> "What if I screw up?
[09:46] <awilkins> Nobody has ever been fired at Valve for making a mistake.
[09:46] <awilkins> It wouldn’t make sense for us to operate that way. Providing
[09:46] <awilkins> the freedom to fail is an important trait of the company"
[09:47] <awilkins> But yes, they are happy to let people go if they are not good enough
[09:47] <awilkins> Again, in a world with Universal Basic Income, I like to think that i) That would be the norm and ii) no big deal
[09:48] <TwistedLucidity> I wish to restate my previous statement
[09:49] * TwistedLucidity wishes he was self-motivated enough to work for Valve
[09:49] <popey> i thought the woman (Anita?) who worked on controllers left under a cloud?
[09:50] <czajkowski> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32481382 confusion ahead if you are hiring a car this summer
[09:51] <TwistedLucidity> czajkowski: Yeah, good old gubbermint. "What's the worst possible way we could do this?"
[09:52] <awilkins> czajkowski, I'm happy that they don't want paper counterparts any more
[09:52] <awilkins> czajkowski, I can never find the damn thing
[09:53] * awilkins would be entirely happy if it were all just apps on a smartcard
[09:53] <popey> I have never taken my paper counterpart
[09:53] <foobarry> mine is in a safe place
[09:53] <foobarry> which i have forgotten about
[09:53] <awilkins> Mine is somewhere in my house
[09:53] <czajkowski> I dont have one but thought it might be useful to share on here
[09:53] <czajkowski> :)
[09:53] <foobarry> somewhere with the photo albums of photos i took as a ten yr old
[09:53] <foobarry> can't find them anywhere
[09:54] <awilkins> The DVLA is one of the government IT success stories
[09:54] <TwistedLucidity> How odd....the DVLA can't seem to find my dirving license....
[09:54] <awilkins> You can get your car tax paid for online in less than 5 minutes. It's all integrated.
[09:54] <zmoylan-pi> did you change your middle name to drop table; TwistedLucidity? :-)
[09:58] <zmoylan-pi> though i do like that real names cause problems... http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4456438/how-do-i-correctly-pass-the-string-null-an-employees-proper-surname-to-a-so
[09:58] <TwistedLucidity> AH, working now
[09:58] <popey> I'm going on holiday later in the year with the inlaws, both of them have thrown that bbc link at me
[09:59] <TwistedLucidity> Wonder how it works when I borrow my dad's car in the EU.
[09:59] <popey> who also both previously told me never to throw away the paper counterpart
[09:59] <popey> (I have hired way more cars than both of them put together, and have never used the paper counterpart)
[09:59] <popey> "Oh, ok mum!"
[10:00] <TwistedLucidity> And I most certainly will not be destorying the couterpart. I keep all documentation like that, I even have my original pass certificates
[10:01] <TwistedLucidity> I do not want to have to re-sit the test because the DVLA mess up (there was a spate about 5 years ago of them losing categories off peoples licenses).
[10:15] <directhex> argh
[10:16] <directhex> bloody rpm
[10:18] <Laney> ruddy rpm
[10:18] <Laney> cute rpm
[10:18] <Laney> ickle wickle rpm
[10:18] * Laney fluffles rpm
[10:20] <nigelb> Is that like code word for strangulate?
[10:23] <MooDoo> RPM? Really Pants Management?
[10:24] <jpds> deltarpm++
[10:26] <foobarry> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-32495447
[11:03] <Myrtti_> I value Guardian app telling me of breaking news, sometimes I just wish I had the same cultural background or atleast knowledge than Britons of my age
[11:04] <Myrtti_> "Keith Harris has died. ... who's Keith Harris? Oh. Ok then."
[11:04] <zmoylan-pi> finland had moomins, uk had orville...
[11:05] <Myrtti> sure, apart from the fact that Moomins are more famous than Keith Harris... (because Japan)
[11:06] <foobarry> finaland had moomins, we had the flumps
[11:06] <Myrtti> the whats?
[11:07] <Myrtti> mmkay
[11:07] <foobarry> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDXMUR7eY_8
[11:07] <bashrc> Keith harris I think was big in the late 1970s/early 1980s. Even as a kid I found his performances kind of nauseating
[11:08] <zmoylan-pi> it didn't have the same depth and social commentary as rod and emu :-D
[11:09] <bashrc> true
[11:09] <davmor2> foobarry: not true we had the moomins too
[11:10] <bashrc> I vaguely remember that the emu stuff was rather anarchic
[11:10] <penguin42> yeh, I don't think Orvill attacked as many people
[11:10] <bashrc> yes
[11:10] <davmor2> bashrc: Keith harris was 80's and 90's and not does panto seasons
[11:45] <foobarry> JamesTait: happy ed balls day!
[11:47] <JamesTait> Oo-er missus!
[11:53] <popey> Ed Balls
[11:54] <brobostigon> anyone happen to have a jolla going spare i can borrow, by chance?
[11:56] <zmoylan-pi> can i borrow a cup of nexus... :-)
[11:56] <popey> they're quite expensive for a loaner.
[11:56] * brobostigon has two nexii
[11:57] <brobostigon> that they are, it seems like an interesting concept, would be nice if they were cheaper.
[11:58] <popey> there is a discount code floating around that you could use
[11:58] <popey> I had a play with one for the first time last week.
[11:58] <popey> the UI is somewhat quirky
[11:58] * brobostigon goes on a search for the discount code.
[11:58] * popey asks friend who has one
[12:09] <brobostigon> oe on ebay for £122, not bad, next one up, £174.
[12:19] * brobostigon installs multirom on his nexus4, and finds a nexus 4 image by jolla to try out.
[12:52] <TwistedLucidity> brobostigon: Sailfish does look interesting, I just wonder how stable the Android emulation is
[12:53] <zmoylan-pi> worse than android running the app? :-)
[12:53] <brobostigon> android emu, ie alien dalvik is only licensed to work on the sailfish os version for the jolla phone.
[13:09] <popey> I win at lunch.
[13:10] <popey> left over roast chicken + curry paste + mayo + bagel = winning bagel
[13:10] <ne2k> nice
[13:12] <awilkins> Nom
[13:13] * awilkins drank pinkish beige sludge
[13:13] <zmoylan-pi> waffles, beans and sausages...
[13:21] <awilkins> I like those tins of beans + sausages cold
[13:21] <awilkins> Remove lid, apply spoon.
[13:22] <penguin42> yeuch
[13:22] <zmoylan-pi> it was on one of those tins... they're nice
[13:23] <zmoylan-pi> but zapped in microwave on waffles
[13:38] * brobostigon rages at fb killing off jabber/xmpp, :(
[13:47] <zmoylan-pi> are you paying fb for their service?
[14:01] <shauno> hm. well pants. that's the one bit of fb I actually use
[14:17] <brobostigon> zmoylan-pi: not a chance.
[14:18] <brobostigon> use their official app on IOS or android, otherwise your screwed.
[14:18] <zmoylan-pi> it's got to the point that i will use a service but i have no loyalty whatsoever anymore to them. i'll recommend if they're good and drop them like a shot when they aren't
[14:18] <foobarry> like amazon
[14:18] <foobarry> who are losing me rapidly
[14:18] <zmoylan-pi> i have never used facebook, amazon
[14:18] <foobarry> after their "exlusive to prime members" scam
[14:20] * penguin42 uses amazon when it's cheapest
[14:23] <diddledan> shauno: facebook cancelled something?
[14:26] <brobostigon> diddledan: yes, on the 30th fb will kill off jabber/xmpp for fb messenger
[14:26] <diddledan> aah yes
[14:26] <diddledan> grrr
[14:26] <diddledan> it's been written on the wall for a while but. sucky in the most.
[14:26] <bashrc> showing their commitment to open standards, no doubt
[14:27] * brobostigon agrees.
[14:27] <zmoylan-pi> it's like they want people to stop using them
[14:27] * brobostigon has found a potential bitlbee plugin which may work after shutdown.
[14:29] <bashrc> if they had xmpp they could maybe have people on facebook chatting with people on google, and then where would it end?
[14:29] <bashrc> obviously all communications should take place within the facebook fortress, overseen by a central committee
[14:30] <diddledan> bashrc: except google are also being very open-standards and suggesting they're gonna close their xmpp too
[14:30] <bashrc> yes
[14:30] <bashrc> google are doing the same
[14:31] <penguin42> have either of them got an alternate published protocol for accessing it?
[14:31] <penguin42> I've got some sympathy if they decide that xmpp is broken for one reason or another as long as they have something else
[14:43] <zmoylan-pi> they think they have a monopoly
[14:44] <zmoylan-pi> and a lot of people will sign up and use their new service
[15:01] <foobarry> i need some LED g9 bulbs
[15:02] <foobarry> some people say they strobe a bit though
[15:02] <foobarry> any suggestions?
[15:03] <foobarry> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Power-66-SMD-Energy-Saving-85v~265v/dp/B00HJ0B012
[15:03] <foobarry> 8p each?
[15:28] <intrbiz> auto pricing alogorithm issues?
[15:31] <popey> what do g9 fit in?
[15:32] <davmor2> popey: look like my halogen spot or it's bigger brother at least
[15:39] <bashrc> are the BQ ubuntuphones still on sale?
[15:40] <davmor2> bashrc: http://www.bq.com/gb/ubuntu.html I'm going to say yes
[15:40] <bashrc> cool
[15:40] <bashrc> I thought there was a flash sale which ran out
[15:41] <davmor2> bashrc: no flash sales finished
[15:41] <bashrc> ah
[15:42] <davmor2> bashrc: they were only on while they judged popularity and awaited the first batch arriving from the factory :)
[15:43] <bashrc> I see
[15:45] <ne2k> I have a GT-I9100 running Android 5.1. is it going to be worth trying Ubuntu phone on it, or is the experience just going to be so rubbish that there is no point?
[15:49] <davmor2> ne2k: no ubuntu doesn't yet support android 5.1 it would need to be on 4.X for ubuntu support
[15:49] <ne2k> davmor2, I thought it replaced android?
[15:49] <ne2k> isn't it meant to be a native linux OS, rather than android/java/bytecode/dalvik/slow/cack?
[15:49] <davmor2> ne2k: it depends on the drivers.
[15:49] <popey> we use certain kernel modules for access to devices ne2k
[15:50] <popey> like gps / radio / sensors
[15:50] <ne2k> davmor2, popey, so it uses the kernel from android, but nothing else?
[15:51] <popey> basically, yes.
[15:51] <popey> we don't have the "cack" as you call it :)
[15:55] * brobostigon has ubuntu touch installed on his nexus4 with multirom, dualboot, :)
[15:56] <intrbiz> popey: how much of Ubuntu touch is QML ?
[15:56] <brobostigon> loads of sw missing though, like pushover/pushbullet, IM client, etc.
[15:56] <popey> many of the core apps, much of the shell
[15:56] <popey> never needed an IM client on a phone, or indeed pushbullet
[15:57] <popey> everyone has different use cases
[15:57] <brobostigon> exactly. yes.
[15:57] <intrbiz> so it trades java/dalvik for Javascript/v8
[15:58] <popey> you dont _have_ to use qml :)
[15:58] <intrbiz> sure
[15:58] <popey> some of our stuff is written in C++
[15:58] <brobostigon> btw, there is a pushbullet client on ubuntu touch, however i filed a bug that its broken, so i am not considering it to be functional.
[15:58] <popey> camera and galery for example.
[16:01] <awilkins> I rather liked the unified IM client on the N900
[16:01] <awilkins> They managed to include Skype and all sorts as well as SMS
[16:02] <awilkins> I like that Hangouts tries the same thing but it needs to be more inclusive (or they need to re-enable XMPP federation)
[16:02] <awilkins> I use bitlbee on my desktop because I do like unifying my chats in one window
[16:02] <intrbiz> Palm Pre had the best messaging I've come across
[16:02] <awilkins> And the IRC support in Empathy is *terrible*
[16:03] * bashrc uses irssi
[16:03] <popey> "people" don't use IM anymore. they have silos.
[16:04] <popey> WhatsApp, Telegram, Viber etc.
[16:04] <popey> (I mean, generic IM apps)
[16:04] <diddledan> it's a worrying trend
[16:04] <davmor2> popey: you forgot the book of face
[16:05] <popey> "etc" covers that
[16:05] <diddledan> the openness of the internet is being subverted to be siloed
[16:05] <intrbiz> its been a growing trend of the last 5 - 10 years, internet is dominated by a few silos where people communicate
[16:05] <awilkins> Yeah
[16:05] <popey> I think the long term plan is for the Ubuntu messaging app (SMS) to also have IM features
[16:05] <davmor2> diddledan: is that not what unix is based on? Do 1 thing do it well, now everyone else is doing it you are complaining ;)
[16:05] <popey> so there's one app for "everything"
[16:05] <awilkins> You have Twitter people, Facebook people
[16:05] <popey> Also, RIP Keith Harris
[16:05] <awilkins> Although Facebook supports XMPP
[16:05] <popey> not for long
[16:05] <awilkins> Oh
[16:06] <awilkins> How aggravating
[16:06] <brobostigon> 30th is Dday
[16:06] <popey> 2 days in fact
[16:06] <diddledan> davmor2: no not at all - do one thing and do it well so that others can utilise it
[16:07] <diddledan> davmor2: unix supplies interoperability out of the box - the communications siloes aren't doing that
[16:07] <awilkins> Probably the reason Google was so keen on Wave
[16:07] <awilkins> And continue to push Inbox
[16:07] <shauno> hopefully we'll just end up with something that uses fb's native api in libpurple
[16:08] <brobostigon> the sailfish os messaging client does it well, combines sms/fb-messenger etc all in the same app.
[16:08] <awilkins> Yeah, sailfish is done by the chaps who did Maemo - same philosophy as that N900 IM client
[16:08] <popey> but it's evil proprietary software!
[16:08] <popey> etc
[16:09] * brobostigon has looked at ffos aswell, OSS, :). however lacks again so many areas, and where it does have the apps, they are badly broken and non-functional.
[16:11] <popey> didn't find them that broken
[16:11] <popey> FFOS seemed okay to me, on the Flame.
[16:11] <shauno> hah
[16:12] <brobostigon> ffos itself fine, the basic apps, email contacts etc, however some of the other apps on it, again pushbullet/pushover, IM etc.
[16:12] <shauno> I'm looking forward to ubuntu getting some actual apps, rather than just web wrappers
[16:13] <brobostigon> same issue with ffos.
[16:14] <popey> some people have created wishlists of apps people want to see
[16:15] <brobostigon> the whole discussion is mute anyway, because as of the 30th, to use FB messenger, i will have to use android.
[16:15] <popey> http://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/04/24/ubuntu-touch-app-wishlist-april-2015/
[16:15] <popey> s/mute/moot/
[16:15] <popey> no you won't. you can use messenger in the webapp
[16:15] <brobostigon> moot, yes.
[16:15] <popey> you dont have to have the fb app installed, or the messenger app
[16:16] <brobostigon> it however wont notify me, when i get new messages from people.
[16:16] <shauno> all that, and they haven't thought of stuff like .. an email client?
[16:16] <popey> there is one already
[16:16] <popey> dekko
[16:16] <popey> https://uappexplorer.com/app/dekko.dekkoproject
[16:16] <shauno> yeah, I have it installed. it's .. well I can't think of a nice way to put it
[16:16] * popey waves to DanChapman
[16:17] <popey> patches welcome
[16:17] <davmor2> \o/ Dekko
[16:20] * DanChapman waves back
[16:20] <popey> shauno: got any specific useful feedback?
[16:21] <shauno> well, one's OS-wide, in that leaving the message view seems to hinge around the smallest target on the screen - for the single most likely action
[16:21] <shauno> then hiding prev/next behind a submenu compounds to too
[16:22] <shauno> starring things and deleting things is all very accessible. actually reading one mail to the next is a chore. which is what I tend to do with my email
[16:23] <popey> DanChapman: did we ever talk about left/right swipe to/from next mail?
[16:23] <DanChapman> shauno: i agree with you on that one. I've brought prev/next up with one of the design guys before, but was suggested to stick it in that drawer where it is now.
[16:24] <DanChapman> popey: there was talks of it being vertical, so a slightly resisitive pull at the end of a message would bring up the next but oxide hasn't got an api yet for that kind of thing
[16:25] * DanChapman would like swipe left/right though.
[16:26] <popey> yeah
[16:26] <diddledan> I think the design guy might be considering aesthetics over usability
[16:27] <awilkins> Hmm, compose on my keyboard is not as documented
[16:27] <shauno> I think moving it to the drawer just leaves the same problem in a different place? swipe would be nice though (or scrolling off the bottom)
[16:27] <DanChapman> there's a bug for it if you want to add anything to it. https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko/+bug/1378282 would help give some weight to the change
[16:27] <diddledan> swipe left n right doens't impact aesthetics and it provides a simple usability
+'+e is not e acute but e circumflex ê
[16:27] <popey> we use swipe left/right for prev/next track in music
[16:27] <popey> so it has use elsewhere.
+;+e is a acute é
[16:27] <popey> ê
[16:28] <awilkins> See
[16:28] <popey> that was alt-gr + ' + e
[16:28] <popey> é that was with ;
[16:28] <awilkins> Yeah, docs all say that should be é not ê
[16:28] <ahayzen> popey, we should really animate that swipe as its not very discoverable :)
[16:28] <popey> +10000
[16:28] <shauno> one I did notice is that you can swipe the topbar in scopes, but nothing else. is it a different widget, or just not being used?
[16:28] <popey> Make it so, number one!
[16:29] <ahayzen> :)
[16:29] <ahayzen> should be easier when the new media-hub lands
[16:29] <popey> haha
[16:29] <popey> you always say that! :D
[16:29] <popey> i like that sturmflt wants http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorillas_%28video_game%29 ported :)
[16:29] <popey> internet two-player would be fun
[16:29] * brobostigon points out also, sailfishos is the forrunner, as it has support for his pebble.
[16:30] <diddledan> omg I remember that game!
[16:30] <diddledan> written in BASIC
[16:30] <popey> yeah, qbasic
[16:30] <diddledan> to play it I loaded the .bas in qbasic and used the "run" feature
[16:30] <popey> well done ㋛
[16:30] <popey> we don't have snake on ubuntu touch
[16:30] <popey> this is a terrible omission
[16:31] <diddledan> :-o
[16:31] <awilkins> Results of compose sequences differ from docs at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GtkComposeTable
[16:31] <popey> oh, there is one https://uappexplorer.com/app/com.wellsb.snake-port
[16:31] <diddledan> looks a bit ugly to nme
[16:32] <awilkins> Although my settings say "compose key : disabled"
[16:32] <awilkins> So why it's composing at all is a mystery!
[16:33] <popey> yeah, I want one that looks like a nokia phone version
[16:33] * penguin42 burps a mug cake
[16:33] <popey> \o/
[16:33] <popey> I made one of those last week
[16:34] * penguin42 was out of orange marmalade though
[16:36] <shauno> the other one I'm still trying to figure out, is why some apps obey the setting to vibrate on tap, and others don't. I haven't found any rhyme or reason yet
[16:58] <popey> shauno: be good to list the broken ones. happy to file the bugs for you
[17:00] <shauno> that's what I've been trying to figure out .. I'm not sure if it's the apps themselves. eg, I have an app that was meant to read hackernews. in that, I get the buzz in the titlebar but not in the webview
[17:03] <popey> feel the need for http://www.ebuyer.com/583689-binatone-the-brick-mobile-phone-1000249
[17:04] <popey> month of standby :)
[17:04] <penguin42> haha
[17:05] <popey> 128x160 display.. _with_ snake!
[17:05] <diddledan> popey: that's awesome!
[18:05] <Knightwise> intereting project tonight. programming dmx interfaces
[18:05] <MartijnVdS> Knightwise: let there be light!
[18:06] <zmoylan-pi> except for those irritating blue leds hopefully
[18:09] <Knightwise> its a christmass display
[18:09] <zmoylan-pi> so just a few lasers pointing away from the tree to discourage cats...
[18:10] <Knightwise> no , a pretty massive one :)
[18:11] <zmoylan-pi> bigger lasers only encourage larger cats...
[18:11] <Knightwise> outdoors, about 40000lights
[18:11] <davmor2> popey: oh man you just peeked my interest with the _with_ snake! I mean wow
[18:15] <foobarry> piqued
[18:20] <davmor2> foobarry: that too
[18:22] <shauno> I was just looking at http://snayke.net .. shiny
[18:25] <zmoylan-pi> my brand new shiny nokia dumbphone does *NOT* have snake :-(
[18:26] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: Man that is a dumb phone
[18:26] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: is it big enough that it can prop open doors still though?
[18:26] <zmoylan-pi> it's like they wanted to show it's an ms nokia and not a real nokia...
[18:27] <shauno> does it have minesweeper?
[18:27] <diddledan> apparently solitaire is back in win10
[18:27] <zmoylan-pi> it's a dumb nokia. i could club a terminator 800 robot sent back from the future to death with it :-)
[18:28] <zmoylan-pi> it shipped with a bunch of demo games which i deleted
[18:28] <diddledan> brb, rebooting my router
[18:28] <shauno> just slightly concerned that if it doesn't have snake *or* minesweeper, you might have accidentally bought a charger instead of a phone
[18:28] <zmoylan-pi> i'll have to find a few good ones to add. i'd like rogue...
[18:29] <zmoylan-pi> and ms have killed the nokia store and opera's store now shows up for software instead.
[18:31] <shauno> doing dist-upgrade on my mailserver. what could possibly go wrong :)
[18:32] <penguin42> shauno: It's normally a good idea to stop and disable the incoming mail server before doing that
[18:33] <shauno> yeah, I shut off postfix before the backup, so stuff wouldn't be moving beneath me
[18:34] <shauno> I can't really stop it coming, but I can hope to be back before the sending server quits trying
[18:35] <shauno> (except debian's mail-lists, which have some really grumpy bounce handling)
[18:38] <popey> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tiko3d/tiko-the-unibody-3d-printer
[18:38] <popey> that thing has gone a bit crazy
[18:38] <popey> 2.6M USD
[18:39] <popey> back it now, get it in a year :S
[18:42] <penguin42> yeh that's a bit nutty
[18:42] <zmoylan-pi> are they printing them off? :-)
[18:47] <foobarry> does all4 work on linux?
[18:50] <foobarry> doesnt on mine
[18:52] <ali1234> "In most 3D printers, the most expensive (by far) item is the frame." no it isn't, it's the servos and electronics
[18:52] <ali1234> the frame is just some threaded bar that you can buy for £2/m
[18:54] * penguin42 thought enclosed 3d pritners got slapped with some patent fees from someone who'd managed to patent the idea of a box
[18:54] <zmoylan-pi> could they not just make it a parallelogram or trapezoid? :-P
[18:55] <popey> foobarry: works here
[18:55] <foobarry> oh
[18:55] <foobarry> chrome?
[18:57] <popey> yes
[18:57] <popey> well, i say that, one worked, one doesnt
[18:57] <popey> just spinning
[18:57] <popey> so no.
[19:00] <foobarry> yeah
[19:00] <foobarry> spinny
[19:00] <diddledan> you spin me round baby right round
[19:01] <penguin42> hmm
[19:03] <zmoylan-pi> start crushing their happiness young... https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/tumblr_nmirsgbnuh1qjnhqgo1_500.jpg?quality=94&strip=all
[19:03] <davmor2> baby like a record baby right round
[19:03] <foobarry> its the hal thing i thinkn
[19:08] <popey> foobarry: http://www.channel4.com/4viewers/faq/name/can-i-use-all-4-using-mac-and-linux/id/400287879
[19:08] <popey> :)
[19:09] <foobarry> heh lies!
[19:11] <foobarry> http://www.channel4.com/programmes/peep-show/on-demand/36687-004
[19:11] <foobarry> spinny spinny
[19:12] <ahayzen> foobarry, install HAL from ppa:mjblenner/ppa-hal for 4od to work
[19:12] <foobarry> is that proven to still work in the advent of all4?
[19:13] <ahayzen> oh
[19:13] <ahayzen> foobarry, i clicked on that peep show link and its playing the advert
[19:13] <ali1234> i can't even sign in
[19:14] <foobarry> indeed, ad is now playing
[19:14] <foobarry> will find out in few mins if prg works
[19:14] <foobarry> that was another chestnut
[19:15] <popey> i dont even get adverts
[19:15] <popey> never mind though, all4 sucks on all platforms
[19:15] <popey> not just linux!
[19:15] <ali1234> no channel 4 i am not giving you my name address and phone number just to watch shows
[19:16] <ali1234> do they have a smart TV API that i can abuse to watch without signup?
[19:16] <ali1234> i bet they do
[19:16] <penguin42> the registration for the extended guarantee on my kettle (free extra eyar) wanted dob and marital status, two phone numbers etc
[19:17] <foobarry> just wiat till u watch a programme
[19:17] <foobarry> so many ads
[19:18] <foobarry> also no chromecast support
[19:18] <ahayzen> oo it says "Welcome, Andrew" before the program lol
[19:18] <ali1234> that's creepy
[19:19] <popey> stop watching...
[19:19] <foobarry> popey: after installing the hal from that ppa i get it
[19:19] <popey> you'll get an email later "Hey Andrew, if you want to carry on watching..."
[19:19] <popey> ok
[19:19] <ali1234> FFFFFF.....
[19:19] <ahayzen> lol popey but peep show <3
[19:19] <diddledan> that wasn't 4 who said that - it was gchq letting you know they're watching
[19:19] <popey> true enough
[19:20] <ali1234> i get those emails from ebay and amazon "hey you forgot to buy this thing you looked at" - no i didn't, go away
[19:21] <shauno> that's not always bad though. I went to buy some speakers from a store in limerick, but during the checkout it said they'd be delivered the next day.
[19:21] <foobarry> nathan barley is tisted but compelling
[19:21] <shauno> so I held off until I had a day free
[19:21] <shauno> they phoned me up and offered me a decent discount :)
[19:21] <popey> it's well weapon.
[19:22] <shauno> it would have been annoying, except I was going to finish the purchase in a few days anyway. so they knocked almost 100e off the price for no need
[19:28] <foobarry> strange, this notion of customer service
[19:29] <foobarry> i had stone slabs delivered in pieces and the company refused to replace them
[19:29] <foobarry> they were good only for rubble
[19:31] <ali1234> did anyone see that news story yesterday? apparently there is a shortage of bricks
[19:32] <zmoylan-pi> the riots for that will be strangely peaceful? :-P
[19:33] <zmoylan-pi> or will the invites go out byob...
[19:46] <shauno> is anyone else besides zmoylan-pi in ireland? trying to figure out who does a good rate on payg data
[19:47] <zmoylan-pi> only tesco mobile do payg in ireland now. all the rest are rolling contracts where the credit you buy is used up with in 2 weeks
[19:48] <zmoylan-pi> as someone who can make €5 of credit last 2-3 months this would put my mobile bill by at least 400% :-)
[19:49] <foobarry> hey giffgaff just upped the data onthe £7.50pm to 500MB !!!yay
[19:49] <foobarry> i was onthe verge of switching provider
[19:50] <zmoylan-pi> i use opera mini as browser and can last all day browsing the web, rss, twitter, email <50mb daily allowance
[20:04] <foobarry> boingboing.net/2015/04/28/bedtime-stories-sound-way-more.html
[20:04] <foobarry> weird
[20:06] <shauno> hm. vodafone don't let you pick what size sim you need. that seems a bit .. out of the loop
[20:08] <zmoylan-pi> isn't there a guillotine that cuts large sims to size?
[20:11] <shauno> I guess I'll have to wander into town and get them to chop it? I just ordered off their website
[20:11] <daftykins> shauno: unless you're handy with a knife yourself :>
[20:12] <shauno> still seems a bit backwards. I guess they've been out of the business for the last 5 years or something
[20:14] <daftykins> most ones i get these days are multi size and you just pop 'em out?
[20:14] <daftykins> biab
[20:17] <zmoylan-pi> tis ireland, we use flint sims :-)
[20:26] <ball> I've been to Ireland!
[20:26] <shauno> heh, I honestly don't know. o2/3 make you choose, and I don't really go through them that often
[20:29] <zmoylan-pi> well good news o2 and 3 are now one and the same. should we call them o5?
[20:30] <shauno> they don't seem to care what I call them lol
[20:36] <diddledan> surely o6, no?
[20:36] <diddledan> or o23
[20:36] <diddledan> and means multiply
[20:36] <diddledan> or means add
[20:40] <zmoylan-pi> or o2/3 which would be read as o two thirds... which does sound like what we'll end up with :-P
[20:40] <zmoylan-pi> the network has been down a few times since the takeover
[20:42] <diddledan> my honeypot found a new spamm0r: http://www.projecthoneypot.org/ip_<IP_ADDRESS>
[21:18] <intrbiz> has ofcom approved it yet?
[21:20] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[21:20] <shauno> it's already happened here
[21:20] <bigcalm> Finally sorted out the networking at home. My irssi proxy is back at last
[21:25] <Myrtti> I just hope O2 and Three joining up means that the reception gets better, not worse from what it is now
[21:26] <shauno> all I've noticed so far, is that my monthly call begging me to get a new contract, comes from a new number now - so I accidentally answered it
[21:28] <daftykins> :D
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[19:47] <rick_h_> lazyPower: fyi https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-gui/+bug/1446788 unable to dupe it atm. We did a release last week and wonder if we accidently corrected something
[19:47] <mup> Bug #1446788: Build-a-bundle appears broken in firefox on jujucharms.com <juju-gui:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446788>
[19:47] <rick_h_> lazyPower: please let us know if you can still dupe and we can try to figure out what we're missing
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[14:04] <decker-christian> /msg nickserv identify decker-christian $cd121%Irc
[14:04] <roadmr> decker-christian: you'll probably have to change your password :(
[14:05] <decker-christian> :D
[14:05] <decker-christian> I think so too...
[14:06] <penguin42> you can use 122
[14:06] <decker-christian> how can i change it?
[14:06] <penguin42> /msg nickserv help should tell you
[14:17] <decker-christian> I think Bug #1448924 can be triaged
[14:19] <penguin42> decker-christian: OK, and what do you think it should be set as for importance - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Bug%20importances
[14:21] <decker-christian> Medium or High
[14:21] <penguin42> now say why
[14:22] <penguin42> decker-christian: Looking at that Importance definition which one does it fit into based on those defs
[14:26] <decker-christian> I think it's necessary that the watchdog works as it used to be in a preview version. I think it is high because it is a problem with an essential hardware component.
[14:27] <decker-christian> previous
[14:30] <penguin42> decker-christian: So I was going to say Medium; because I'd classify a watchdog as a non-essential component - also if I understand his bug report it's got a simple workaround (I think he's just saying you have to reeenable the service?)
[14:31] <decker-christian> Okay.
[14:33] <penguin42> done, and I've added a suggestion; if the problem is only that it's not starting the service at each startup then a systemctl enable might fix that
[14:34] <decker-christian> I cannot change the Importance form Undecided to Medium? When I think a bug can be triaged. I came here and give an advice
[14:35] <penguin42> decker-christian: Yep, I've changed it, thanks
[14:35] <decker-christian> Okay. Thanks
[14:45] <decker-christian> Bug #1448913. I think it can be triaged and importance is high because the functionality of the application is broken. (Sending the picture in the wrong direction isn't good).
[14:48] <decker-christian> Bug #1448924 is just a missing feature so Importance is Wishlist
[14:55] <decker-christian> Sorry wrong number Bug #1449233
[14:55] <aikidouke> firewall-applet for vivid behavior when launched from dash is different than running sudo firewall-config from terminal, could this be a bug?
[15:08] <decker-christian> Bug #1449144 : Can be triaged. Importance is low, because it have an easy work-around
[15:13] <decker-christian> Bug #1449025 : Can be triaged. I think importance is low, because it have an easy work-around by remove and reinstall. But I'm not sure if it is a problem from skype
[16:45] <melodie> hi
[16:56] <melodie> has someone tested zram-config in Vivid lately?
[17:13] <ogra_> melodie, didrocks did the systemd switch for it ... perhaps there are still bugs ... whats wrong ß
[17:13] <ogra_> ?
[17:14] <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zram-config/0.3
[17:14] <melodie> hi ogra_
[17:15] <melodie> I have several issues with it and I am trying to see how to deal with the bug reports to do
[17:15] <melodie> ogra_ would you rather say systemctl should be used for start/stop restart, or better "service" or better swapon/swapoff?
[17:16] <ogra_> well, file them against the package and make didrocks aware of them
[17:16] <melodie> the first two fail to restar
[17:16] <melodie> t
[17:16] <melodie> to restart
[17:16] <ogra_> in the systemd world you want to use systemctl
[17:16] <melodie> the last fails to use the same priority as the main start script
[17:16] <ogra_> swapon/off wouldnt work if zram isnt properly set up first
[17:16] <melodie> ogra_ yes, that's what I thought so I will act consequently for the bug report :D
[17:17] <melodie> ogra_ it works more or less, but with errors
[17:17] <ogra_> right, he should fix that then :)
[17:17] <melodie> is didrocks coming here sometimes?
[17:18] <melodie> is he Adam Conrad, the man whose name is everywhere in the files?
[17:20] <penguin42> melodie: https://launchpad.net/~didrocks
[17:20] <penguin42> melodie: https://launchpad.net/~adconrad
[17:21] <penguin42> melodie: Generally searching for peoples launchpad account gets you their irc nick
[17:21] <melodie> thanks penguin42
[17:21] <melodie> I'll try to carve that in memory
[17:32] <decker-christian> hello, just a short question. If I write in here that a bug can be triaged, is it for sure that someone will look at them or is it better to wait until some response in here.
[17:32] <teward> decker-christian: either or, it also depends on the triager looking at it whether it qualifies.
[17:33] <teward> however i'm hesitant to touch any bug in the partner repos, especially since Skype has to fix the problem (that's not necessarily editable packaging)
[17:36] <decker-christian> Okay. But how to handle bugs like that one? Just ignore isn't the solution, or=
[17:36] <decker-christian> ?
[17:38] <penguin42> yeh it's OK to ignore a bug if you don't know what to do with it; although if you have a dozen that are absolutely certainly the same then I'd probably start duping them if I was really sure they were the same bug
[17:38] <penguin42> there are plenty of bugs in the sea
[17:42] <decker-christian> Okay.
[17:53] <teward> agreed with penguin42
[17:55] <melodie> ogra_ bug 1449665 bug 1449678
[18:39] <melodie> I am struggling with an error after an upgrade in a virtual machine: "invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/modemmanager not found."
[18:40] <melodie> http://pastebin.com/edycCS1U
[18:40] <melodie> would someone have a suggest so I can fix it?
[18:43] <melodie> solved: touch is my friend
[18:52] <decker-christian> Bug #1448913. I think it can be triaged and importance is high because the functionality of the application is broken. (Sending the picture in the wrong direction isn't good).
[18:54] <teward> decker-christian: another restricted bug, and one which I don't think we should be messing with. I know there are devs who watch the fglrx bugs pretty closely. (Like partner repo items, I'm hesitant to just mark that "triaged" and change the importance if only because it's something that has more than just a 'bug' implications)
[19:11] <decker-christian> should i mark it then as invalid?
[19:12] <teward> decker-christian: no, leave it alone, is my suggestion
[19:13] <decker-christian> t
[19:14] <teward> decker-christian: I also don't think it's capable of 'triaged' yet - if it were me going at it i'd need more specific data, but i'm also not an fglrx expert
[19:14] <teward> (I leave that to the canonical people0
[19:17] <decker-christian> teward: I didn't get it. Why are there so much bugs which should be ignored? How can I (as amateur) know which ones are relvant and which ones are not. I see a bug an think someone should care about it.
[19:21] <teward> decker-christian: As I said before, some triagers are more comfortable changing things vs. others.
[19:21] <teward> Me, I prefer to leave the restricted stuff (drivers) and partner stuff (closed source) to people more familiar with triage for that
[19:23] <teward> decker-christian: especially since driver bugs may just be hardware related compared to actual bugs exploding (and fglrx issues are driver bugs, and in theory it could cause other issues if not handled right)
[19:23] <teward> the fact i'm around and commenting means nothing, others may choose to triage per your requests after me, however I tend to think that unless driver bugs are confirmed by you, you may want to tread lightly around them
[19:23] <teward> decker-christian: that's just my take on it.
[19:23] <teward> decker-christian: however, I would suggest, starting out, that you start by focusing on packages you have an interest in
[19:25] <teward> looking at the fglrx one, i'll maybe set it to "Medium" but I don't think it's triageable - i say Medium because neither Chrome or Spotify are actually in Ubuntu
[19:25] <teward> Especially since "all other apps are fine" per the description and original poster
[19:26] <decker-christian> okay. thanks for your advice. I just started yesterday so I'm still learning ;)
[19:27] <teward> decker-christian: i started in 2012 with bug triage as a part of bugsquad, with a special interest in bugs in certain packages, but also in bugs which impacted me regularly (rare but it does happen).
[19:27] <teward> kinda started taking over nginx bug triage (server package) due to my interest there, but that's a moot point at this point
[19:28] <teward> my point is even I still learn, too, it's a continual process
[19:28] <teward> my best advice is start with packages that interest you rather than a random selection/subset of bugs
[19:28] <teward> maybe even work with bugs that aren't special-hardware based, or such. Skype is an ehhhhh tossup in my opinion, because that's closed source...
[19:28] <teward> but the point still stands :0
[19:28] <teward> :) *
[19:29] <decker-christian> I think that is a good advice :).
[19:29] <teward> (it is ultimately up to the bugcontrol persons you reach whether to 'triaged' or not, either they may not be fluent enough in the package to make that judgement, or they may have reservations in messing with restricted or closed source stuff such as in partner, etc.
[19:30] <teward> decker-christian: you may also be interested in the Hundred Papercuts project - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts
[19:30] <teward> https://launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts is the LP group. But it's still a nice 'getting started' point.
[19:31] <teward> but my best advice is to start with packages you like or have an interest in, rather than random-picking of bugs. Granted, I sometimes go after bugs that are likely feature request bugs, those're the easiest to triage xD
[19:34] <decker-christian> Okay. I think I will find my way to get involved :)
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| 2015-04-28T00:00:00
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2015-04-28-#cloud-init
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"authors": [
"JayF",
"claudiupopa",
"devicenull",
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"jeffgus_",
"kwadronaut",
"nrezinorn",
"plathrop",
"smoser"
],
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"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:87",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/28/%23cloud-init.txt"
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ubuntu-chat
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[06:17] <jeffgus_> hi all,
[06:17] <jeffgus_> is anyone else having issues with cloud-init on rhel7.1?
[06:17] <jeffgus_> it doesn't seem to be processing the template correctly
[06:17] <jeffgus_> as in the chef template
[06:17] <jeffgus_> when i downgrade the version it works
[06:18] <jeffgus_> 0.7.5-6 works
[06:18] <jeffgus_> 0.7.6-2 doesn't work
[15:10] <smoser> claudiupopa, what was the c-i you were showoing me earlier?
[15:10] <smoser> link to github?
[15:12] <claudiupopa> smoser: https://github.com/PCManticore/argus-ci
[15:12] <smoser> thansk
[15:12] <claudiupopa> develop branch is where the work goes atm.
[15:13] <claudiupopa> np.
[15:35] <smoser> JayF, on a OnMetal the smallest, what is the disk there?
[15:35] <smoser> where did you come up with a 32GB disk drive
[16:02] <JayF> it's a 32GB SATADOM
[16:02] <JayF> basically an SD card with a SATA port attached is the easiest way to describe it
[16:46] <nrezinorn> hello, is this a good channel to ask for some quick help? I wrote a cloud-config file that works on cent6, doesnt work on cent7 - and currently the cent7 partially works, but fails to run the 'runcmd:' section :(
[18:28] <plathrop> Is anyone here successfully using cloud-config for creating initial users on Ubuntu Trusty?
[18:49] <harlowja_> nrezinorn can u describe what u are seeing, and maybe get a /var/log/cloud-init.log (that doesn't contain sensitive info)
[18:50] <harlowja_> another option, get full debug log that we can use also
[18:50] <harlowja_> if u put the following in your yaml u should force on debugging
[18:50] <harlowja_> # Print debug output to console so that it is accessible from 'nova console-log'.
[18:50] <harlowja_> log_cfgs: []
[18:50] <harlowja_> something must be up :-P
[18:51] <nrezinorn> sure i can do that, let me upload all my configs to GHE or something :)
[18:51] <nrezinorn> i dont see anything logged after spinning things up (to verify cloud-init)
[18:51] <harlowja_> hmmm
[18:51] <harlowja_> ya, thats weird then :-/
[18:51] <harlowja_> if u see nothing, thats odd :-/
[18:51] <nrezinorn> the wierd thing to me, is it loads some parts of the config file
[18:52] <nrezinorn> it drops the SSH keys, etc
[18:52] <harlowja_> odd
[18:52] <nrezinorn> but simply fails to run the runcmd section and its failing to run the packages section
[18:52] <nrezinorn> it only fails on centos7, centos6 works perfectly!
[18:52] <harlowja_> weird
[18:52] <harlowja_> using that logging trick might help
[18:53] <nrezinorn> give me a few to do the logging trick, then i will share what i have so you can see
[18:53] <harlowja_> k
[18:55] <nrezinorn> your log_cfgs has given me a ton of debug info
[18:55] <nrezinorn> ill just look through it all , thanks :)
[18:57] <nrezinorn> it doesnt even try to load the modue for runcmd , it does try bootcmd though
[19:04] <harlowja_> so that makes me wondering if your /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg isn't listing runcmd
[19:04] <harlowja_> if thats so, then there's your problem :-P
[19:05] <nrezinorn> oh its in there :) like is why i said im confused because my centos6 cloud-config file *should* also work on centos7
[19:05] <harlowja_> k, odd
[19:05] <harlowja_> hopefully all the debug junk has something useful :)
[19:05] <nrezinorn> all i can glean from it is "it didnt try to parse runcmd"
[19:06] <harlowja_> hmmm, no idea then
[19:07] <nrezinorn> welcome to my last few days ;)
[19:09] <harlowja_> ha
[19:21] <nrezinorn> harlowja_: https://github.com/Nrezinorn/cloud-init maybe you can spot some glaring syntax error between c6 and c7 cloud-config?
[19:22] <harlowja_> kk
[19:23] <harlowja_> soo the thing i do notice is that none of those logs are for the 'config' stage
[19:23] <harlowja_> but only for init and init-local stage
[19:23] <harlowja_> *there are 3 -4 stages of cloud-init
[19:23] <harlowja_> 1) init/init-local
[19:23] <harlowja_> 2) config
[19:23] <harlowja_> 3) final
[19:23] <harlowja_> runcmd is under http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cloud-init-dev/cloud-init/trunk/view/head:/config/cloud.cfg#L42 (section 2)
[19:24] <harlowja_> stage/section
[19:24] <nrezinorn> those stages are set in /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg for defaults?
[19:24] <harlowja_> ya, but i'm wondering why u don't have logs for those other stages
[19:24] <harlowja_> all of your log files end with cloud-init mode 'init'
[19:25] <nrezinorn> cloud init was intsall via rpm, default settings
[19:25] <harlowja_> or running 'init-local'
[19:25] <harlowja_> ya, so for some reason yours maybe isn't running the later stages, not sure why
[19:25] <harlowja_> who build that rpm :-P
[19:25] <nrezinorn> let me check my KS config to see if something is messing with those cfg files after install (i dont think they are, so its a stock rpm install)
[19:25] <harlowja_> redhat?
[19:25] <nrezinorn> https://github.com/Nrezinorn/cloud-init/blob/master/cloud-init.txt i knew you'd ask!
[19:26] <nrezinorn> i can ask the centos mail list
[19:26] <harlowja_> ya, so centos folks i guess
[19:26] <harlowja_> ya, some reason its not really running the rest of the stages (it appears)
[19:26] <harlowja_> which may mean its misconfiguered (systemd issues?)
[19:26] <nrezinorn> this rpm was built last sept and i know our openstack has c7 images, and all the stuff works there
[19:26] <harlowja_> i think http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cloud-init-dev/cloud-init/trunk/files/head:/systemd/ (those are the systemd scripts, but idk if they used that or something else)
[19:27] <harlowja_> ya, so maybe u need to investigate if its really running those stages (systemd i think has this info, not sure)
[19:27] <nrezinorn> is its nots runing the stages, that is an RPM issue or i need to fix it during kickstart
[19:28] <nrezinorn> i would think an rpm install would take care of all that is needed :P
[19:28] <harlowja_> ha
[19:28] <harlowja_> if only :-P
[19:29] <nrezinorn> im going to blame systemd here ;) that is what people do right?
[19:30] <harlowja_> :)
[19:30] * nrezinorn stumbles though using systemd
[19:30] <nrezinorn> i really should learn this stuff. i use arch @ home, but i never log into my system at home, pretty much ever!
[19:31] <nrezinorn> loos like cloud-config service is dead.
[19:53] <harlowja_> hmm, that might be the issue :-P
[19:54] <smoser> blaming systemd is always safe.
[19:54] <smoser> if runcmd didn't run, i'd suspect that cloud-final didnt run
[19:54] <smoser> (dont knwo if we saw that above or not).
[19:58] <nrezinorn> so i looked into this more and it looks like it is a self-inflicted wound :(
[20:09] <devicenull> so, before I go about re-inventing the wheel... I work for a cloud provider, and we're currently using cloud-init to handle all the provisioning required to handle machines off to customers
[20:10] <devicenull> however, some of our customers want to be able to provide their own user-data scripts, which is what we're currently using to configure instances
[20:10] <devicenull> is there a simple way to run multiple cloud-config scripts?
[20:12] <devicenull> atm it feels like I need to move all of 'our' provisioning outside of cloud-init, so I can leave it available for the users
[21:00] <smoser> devicenull, 2 options
[21:01] <smoser> a.) you could consume the users's user-data and stuff it into a mime-multipart message with your parts at the beginning or the end (later trumps earlier)
[21:01] <smoser> b.) vendor-data
[21:01] <smoser> vendor-data was designed exactly for "cloud provider" providing stuff to cloud-init, and not interfering with user-data.
[21:01] <smoser> vendor-data is supported in openstack.
[21:02] <smoser> for other datasources we may have to modify cloud-init, but if you're a public cloud and willing to work a bit, that can be achieved even back into stable ubuntu.
[21:03] <devicenull> ah
[21:03] <devicenull> we use the ec2 metadata source, but the openstack one looks fairly compatible
[21:04] <kwadronaut> it is
[21:05] <devicenull> that looks like it's a pretty good solution then
[21:05] <kwadronaut> (or rather openstack offers ec2-compatibility, haven't run in corner cases in quite a while)
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2015-04-28-#ubuntu-gnome
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"authors": [
"Guest32223",
"JohnPoison",
"damascene",
"darkxst",
"mgedmin",
"mitchdavis2792",
"x-Na"
],
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"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:88",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/28/%23ubuntu-gnome.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
|
[05:34] <mgedmin> gnome-shell just segfaulted on me
[05:34] <mgedmin> plugged in an external monitor, like usual; it wasn't detected, like usual, hit the brightness key to force it to be detected (hey, it works, don't ask me why)
[05:35] <mgedmin> saw gnome-shell misrendering on both screens, frozen for like 30 seconds and got an apport dialog with a sigsegv
[05:37] <mgedmin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1449366
[05:38] <mgedmin> (yeah it's private)
[05:38] <mgedmin> (I wonder if server-side apport-retrace works now)
[05:49] <mgedmin> oops yesterday I linked x-Na to the wrong bug :(
[05:50] <mgedmin> I meant to link to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1427877
[06:25] <x-Na> Hmmh
[06:25] <x-Na> That one is marked incomplete
[06:26] <x-Na> But yeah, that affects me
[06:26] <x-Na> If you need help debugging that one, I can help as it is a bit annoying
[06:27] <x-Na> It leaves my monitor on too :(
[06:28] <mgedmin> did you see the workaround?
[06:33] <mgedmin> apport-retrace 💔 :(
[06:34] <mgedmin> apport-retrace --gdb --sandbox system --cache ~/.cache/apport-retrace /var/crash/_usr_bin_gnome-shell.1000.crash
[06:34] <mgedmin> "warning: .dynamic section for "/tmp/apport_sandbox_9J2FRV/usr/lib/libmutter.so.0" is not at the expected address (wrong library or version mismatch?)"
[06:34] <mgedmin> does it not handle PPAs?
[06:37] <mgedmin> (and the stack trace goes off the rails as soon as it reaches libmutter)
[07:26] <x-Na> mgedmin, what workaround?
[07:27] <mgedmin> x-Na: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1427877/comments/8
[07:32] <x-Na> Ok, yeah, now I see it
[09:51] <JohnPoison> Hi folks! I want to use gnome-sushi in pantheon-files package, but gnome-sushi depends on nautilus for no good reason. What are options for me to solve this problem?
[09:51] <JohnPoison> Is this a right channel for such questions?
[10:33] <darkxst> JohnPoison, I am not sure that sushi even works outside of nautilus
[10:34] <JohnPoison> darkxst, it works
[10:35] <darkxst> JohnPoison, file a bug then
[10:36] <JohnPoison> darkxst: so that's the problem. I can't find where to file a bug
[10:36] <darkxst> ubuntu-bug gnome-sushi
[10:37] <darkxst> and bonus points if you can make a patch to fix the deps ;)
[10:37] <darkxst> I suppose you want nautilus | pantheon-files in there
[10:40] <JohnPoison> darkxst: I'm kinda new to the open-source. It's like a labyrinth for me now. I made a fix here https://code.launchpad.net/~ivanfateev/pantheon-files/fix-1380139 for pantheon-files. But to complete a task I should integrate gnome-sushi to pantheon-files and get rid of dependency on nautilus. But I've got lost
[10:41] <JohnPoison> I don't understand where packages are building
[10:42] <JohnPoison> *are built
[10:42] <darkxst> they build with sbuild
[10:43] <darkxst> on both ppa's and the main archive builders
[10:45] <darkxst> John, I assume pantheon is an upstream project? in that case you should not directly patch the code, but use quilt patches
[10:46] <darkxst> and if its an upstream patch, don't comment out code, just delete it
[10:50] <JohnPoison> darkxst: where can I ready about workflow? E.g. how to create a quilt patch, where can I share it
[10:50] <JohnPoison> *read about
[10:52] <darkxst> google, its pretty simple, though a lot of the guides make it seem harder than it it is
[10:55] <JohnPoison> darkxst: Thanks, I'll try it
[13:11] <damascene> Hi, I have this problem that is really annoying. I have 3 languages to switch between. when I installed ubuntu-gnome trouble started to show. every time language switching keyboard shortcuts stop working after a while. I have to switch it manually from the the upper section. I've read +20 post about this but couldn't figure how to fix it or at least what the problem really is. could you please help me? GNOME Shell 3.12.2 Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[14:48] <damascene> Hi, I have this problem that is really annoying. I have 3 languages to switch between. when I installed ubuntu-gnome trouble started to show. every time language switching keyboard shortcuts stop working after a while. I have to switch it manually from the the upper section. I've read +20 post about this but couldn't figure how to fix it or at least what the problem really is. could you please help me? GNOME Shell 3.12.2 Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[17:27] <Guest32223> Hi scrollback. first i have to apologize for my english... I guess you want to stay on 14.04 ? If not, can you try the 15.04 release with Livecd or Liveusb (unetbootin liveusbcreator) and check if that problem appear. If time, i will take a look on ubuntu-fr and see if someone get this troube too
[19:27] <mitchdavis2792> Hi everyone, I just updated my Ubuntu Gnome 14.10 to 15.04 on my Dell XPS 8700 and since the upgrade I am no longer able to open my System Settings menu. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[19:36] <mitchdavis2792> anyone?
[20:03] <damascene> Hi, I have this problem that is really annoying. I have 3 languages to switch between. when I installed ubuntu-gnome trouble started to show. every time language switching keyboard shortcuts stop working after a while. I have to switch it manually from the the upper section. I've read +20 post about this but couldn't figure how to fix it or at least what the problem really is. could you please help me? GNOME Shell 3.12.2 Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[20:04] <damascene> could this room provide any useful help to my issue or do you suggest somewhere else?
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| 2015-04-28T00:00:00
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2015-04-28-#ubuntu-server
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"jcastro",
"jpds",
"kevinde",
"linocisco",
"lordievader",
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ubuntu-chat
|
[01:04] <mojtaba> Hi, could you please tell me what is wrong with this config? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10918180/
[01:09] <sarnold> seems fine, what issues are you having/
[01:10] <mojtaba> sarnold: content of the /etc/resolve.conf showing sth else.
[01:11] <mojtaba> also when I type sudo ifdown eth0, it says interface eth0 not configured
[01:11] <sarnold> mojtaba: how about /etc/resolv.conf?
[01:12] <mojtaba> sarnold: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10918591/
[01:13] <mojtaba> sarnold: Do you know why I get that message after running sudo ifdown eth0 or sudo ifdown wlan0?
[01:13] <sarnold> mojtaba: do you have <IP_ADDRESS> configured manually in /etc/resolvconf/ somewhere?
[01:13] <mojtaba> sarnold: No, I entered in via GUI, but I removed it.
[01:14] <sarnold> mojtaba: is network-manager installed on this machine?
[01:14] <mojtaba> sarnold: yes
[01:16] <sarnold> mojtaba: can you uninstall it? I suspect nothing will work quite right os long as you have NM installed. it's a crazy wrench to throw into any problem..
[01:16] <mojtaba> sarnold: can I disable it for a moment?
[01:17] <sarnold> mojtaba: no idea
[01:17] <teward> servers and network-manager don't get along very well :P
[01:17] <mojtaba> sarnold: what should I do after that?
[07:10] <linocisco> hi all
[07:10] <linocisco> root@ubuntuserver:/usr/local/src/noip-2.1.9-1# make install
[07:10] <linocisco> gcc -Wall -g -Dlinux -DPREFIX=\"/usr/local\" noip2.c -o noip2
[07:10] <linocisco> make: gcc: Command not found
[07:10] <linocisco> make: *** [noip2] Error 127
[07:10] <linocisco> root@ubuntuserver:/usr/local/src/noip-2.1.9-1#
[07:32] <OpenTokix> linocisco: apt-get install build-essential
[07:48] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:51] <Matsy> Hey everyone! I have a question regarding Landscape. Started a 'trial' today with a few of my non-important servers
[07:53] <OpenTokix> Matsy: I have tried it to - also tried obvservatorium, nagosgraphs, cacti and munin - and graphite/collectd - oh yes, so much win
[07:53] <Matsy> Well, I need something to replace my salt-environment
[07:54] <Matsy> So, it needs to do a bit more than collecting logs
[07:54] <OpenTokix> why are you moving away from salt?
[07:54] <Matsy> Company firewalls seem to have a lot of issues with salt
[07:54] <OpenTokix> Matsy: you think ladnscape will replace a fully fledged CM-system?
[07:54] <Matsy> OpenTokix: I don't.
[07:55] <Matsy> But, since Landscape also allows the instant deployment of custom scripts to an arbitrary amount of servers, it seems to do the job
[07:55] <jcastro> landscape shouldn't require reboots to generate those graphs
[07:56] <Matsy> jcastro: That's what I figured. But it didn't show anything, other than 'Virtual Environment: vmware'
[07:56] <Matsy> That's the only piece of information it seemed to gather
[07:56] <Matsy> Which is odd, because finding out in what kind of virtual environment the computer is without the tools installed is quite a bit more complicate than doing a ps for the list of running processes
[07:56] <jcastro> the landscape guys are in #landscape
[07:57] <jcastro> I don't know enough about landscape to help
[07:57] <Matsy> You guys have a channel for everything
[07:57] <jcastro> heh
[08:58] <linocisco> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10922486/
[09:01] <Matsy> Yes?
[09:02] <Matsy> linocisco: Probably a DNS issue on your server.
[09:05] <linocisco> Matsy, so what do I do?
[09:05] <Matsy> linocisco: Fix the internet?
[09:05] <Matsy> linocisco: dyn-update.no-ip.com resolves to <IP_ADDRESS> here.
[09:05] <Matsy> Do a simple ping, and see if that works
[09:06] <Matsy> If it doesn't, just set your nameservers to a proper DNS service (<IP_ADDRESS> / <IP_ADDRESS> always work)
[09:07] <linocisco> Matsy, ping is blocked
[09:07] <Matsy> linocisco: Try adding dyn-update to your hostfile then
[09:10] <linocisco> Matsy, it is no-ip. not dyn
[09:10] <Matsy> linocisco: I know. See what hostname it tries to contact: dyn-update.no-ip.com
[09:11] <linocisco> dyn-update.no-ip.com: command not found
[09:53] <xqcao> jpds: ping
[10:15] <kevinde> Does anyone use/still uses monit?
[10:16] <kevinde> As i'm running a Teamspeak server on my Ubuntu server and recently discovered monit, I wonder how effective this is to keep your server up and running in case something like a crash occurs
[10:52] <OpenTokix> kevyes
[11:02] <Teduardo> Is there an issue with Ubuntu 14.04 and disk performance?
[11:03] <lordievader> If there is I never noticed it.
[11:03] <Teduardo> okay, i am using rsync to copy some data from a RAID-5 array with 5 drives to an SSD and it's only copying at 134MB/s
[11:04] <Teduardo> and it's actually dipping down as low as 60MB/s
[11:06] <Walex> Teduardo: "performance" is not a property of a distribution, but of its configuration. If you are unhappy with the defaults (which are often not the best for anything in particular), perhaps you need a system administrator to configure your system for your applications.
[11:06] <OpenTokix> Teduardo: Sequential writes is not as fast on SSD:s
[11:07] <OpenTokix> Teduardo: What options are you using for your rsync? --whole-file ? - Are you doing something else on the machine? - What is the performance you expecting?
[11:07] <OpenTokix> Teduardo: 130M/sec from a raid5 on 5 sata-drives sounds resonable.
[11:07] <OpenTokix> Teduardo: hardware or software-raid?
[11:07] <Teduardo> hardware
[11:08] <OpenTokix> Teduardo: you have to remember rsync is doing hashing and stuff on the files you are copying - you can try --whole-file - that will generally be more consise
[11:10] <Teduardo> I guess I will just use bonnie++ to figure out if i can get it to go faster. I figured 5 drives each capable of 100MB/s seperately -1 drive for parity would be about 400MB/s
[11:10] <OpenTokix> Teduardo: it is not that simple
[11:10] <OpenTokix> Teduardo: it is not like the file is perfectly divided in four exactly the same size chunks
[11:11] <Teduardo> ah, im guessing the seek time is horrible on 4tb drives too
[11:11] <OpenTokix> The limit is not MB/sec, but operations per second, - while you are doing your rsync - do a iostat 3 to see how much ops, and how much time is spent on each operation
[11:11] <OpenTokix> Depends on the number of platters
[11:12] <OpenTokix> there ie 2 and 3 platter drives, 3 generally have better seek time than 2. - Also is it many small files, or few large files
[11:12] <Teduardo> its one gigantic file
[11:12] <OpenTokix> ok
[11:13] <OpenTokix> Then the absolutly fastest thing you can do is use dd
[11:13] <OpenTokix> or cp
[11:13] <OpenTokix> dd if=largefile of=/new/path/of/largefile bs=8M
[11:13] <OpenTokix> This will max out your machine, and you can check speed with kill -USR1 pid-of-dd
[11:14] <OpenTokix> Over 8M chunks, generally will not give better performance - but you can always try
[11:15] <OpenTokix> This will probably grind your machine to a halt, since it is doing only io more or less
[11:15] <OpenTokix> so careful if its a internet-system
[11:15] <OpenTokix> that does something =)
[11:15] <Teduardo> nah this is a t630 i have in a lab
[11:15] <OpenTokix> ok, dd at full speed
[11:15] <OpenTokix> then
[11:15] <OpenTokix> will be quickest
[11:16] <OpenTokix> dd > cp > scp > rsync > > > > > > > windows explorer > > > > > os x finder
[11:17] <lordievader> Hehe, osx ;)
[11:18] <OpenTokix> Teduardo: Tell me what you get in terms of performance (if you try dd)
[11:20] <Teduardo><PHONE_NUMBER>2 bytes (53 GB) copied, 234.048 s, 227 MB/s
[11:20] <OpenTokix> nice
[11:20] <OpenTokix> only 53G =)
[11:21] <OpenTokix> I tought you said large file =)
[11:21] <Teduardo> he he he
[11:21] <OpenTokix> Teduardo: there you go, - and I guess you learned something in the process
[11:22] <Teduardo> okay, i will add 10 more drives to the array and see if the performance scales
[11:23] <Teduardo> i need to be able to restore 11TB of data in less than 10 days
[11:23] <Teduardo> which is why i'm going on this quest in the first place
[11:23] <OpenTokix> you are already doing it in 13 hours
[11:23] <OpenTokix> with 227M/sec
[11:24] <Teduardo> yea that's a DD not the restore process of this wacky backup software
[11:24] <OpenTokix> ok
[11:24] <Teduardo> i'm trying to make sure that the underlying system is capable of what i need before i yell at the sw vendor
[11:24] <OpenTokix> then I guess its a software issue more than actual hardware, but hardware helps
[11:24] <OpenTokix> What backup software is it?
[11:24] <Teduardo> server backup manager by idera
[11:25] <OpenTokix> ok
[11:25] <OpenTokix> bleh
[11:25] <OpenTokix> comercial backup...
[11:25] <OpenTokix> bleh
[11:25] <OpenTokix> Never used any that wasnt complete useless
[11:25] <OpenTokix> good luck!
[11:26] <Teduardo> it works flawlessly it just takes forever
[11:26] <Teduardo> it restored the 11tb of data
[11:26] <OpenTokix> So its always 0 or 11TB?
[11:29] <Teduardo> yeah it's just backed up data.. which i dont need until it needs to be restored
[11:31] <Teduardo> but i can't have it take 10 days to restore over 10Gbps ethernet
[11:31] <lordievader> But sometimes you only need a small part of the backup.
[11:32] <lordievader> Like one config file.
[11:32] <Teduardo> oh, yeah i'm kind of worst case scenario planning
[11:33] <Teduardo> but it could be that the software is poorly written but the restore I ran was bare metal and it was just bits sent to the block device rather than files
[11:34] <Teduardo> so there is no excuse for 10 days
[11:37] <OpenTokix> Teduardo: did you also tune your network-settings for 10GBps?
[11:37] <OpenTokix> ie. txqueue and such?
[11:38] <OpenTokix> Teduardo: do _NOT_ use jumboframes on LAN
[11:41] <OpenTokix> Teduardo: if its over 10Gbps, your limit is network - and not disk-speed, since your network will topout about 100MB/sec
[11:45] <Teduardo> 10Gbps = 1.25GB/s
[11:46] <OpenTokix> Yes you are correct, - I got a slight case of the dumb for a minute or two there.
[11:46] <Teduardo> no worries.
[11:47] <Patrickdk> why no jumboframes?
[11:47] <Patrickdk> I only use jumboframes
[11:47] <Teduardo> i dont think jumboframes actually hurts anything
[11:47] <Patrickdk> and amazon has changed to only using jumboframes also
[11:47] <Patrickdk> Teduardo, depends on your switch
[11:47] <Teduardo> unless the switch in between is set to 1500 =D
[11:48] <OpenTokix> Patrickdk: For a LAN jumboframes give no added benefit - more then increasing the complexity of your network.
[11:48] <OpenTokix> Patrickdk: jumboframes, is not faster on local network
[11:48] <Patrickdk> no, ifthe switch has a normal (small) packet buffer, you will overflow it quickly
[11:48] <Teduardo> but i'm not even worried about the network yet like i said i'm just trying to get the read performance of the volume on the server itself showing me a little life
[11:48] <OpenTokix> Patrickdk: Did a lab on this, with switches from different vendors, many different 10G cards, multiples OS:es - no difference
[11:49] <Patrickdk> jumboframes or not highly depends on the nic used
[11:49] <OpenTokix> Patrickdk: it is a networking myth, many believe - since it is annoying as hell to test
[11:49] <Patrickdk> I do see a increase in performance on my local network
[11:49] <Patrickdk> on the old nics, it was a huge improvement
[11:50] <Patrickdk> on newer nics it's down to like 10% or so
[11:50] <Patrickdk> but then, in vm's it goes up again
[11:50] <Patrickdk> it depends if you can take advantage of the nic's tso/lsr/gro/gso or not
[11:51] <Teduardo> so what should 5x4TB WD RE4s in RAID-5 do read wise in a bonnie++?
[11:51] <OpenTokix> ok, if youre running in vms - performance isnt a top issue anyway =) - so nevermind
[11:51] <Patrickdk> and since those only work for tcp
[11:52] <Matsy> OpenTokix: I only manage VM clusters
[11:52] <Patrickdk> do a crapload of udp stuff and rtp
[11:52] <OpenTokix> Patrickdk: About 350-450 ios/s
[11:52] <OpenTokix> iops*
[11:52] <OpenTokix> Matsy: ok
[11:52] <Matsy> OpenTokix: Performance is one of my highest priorities
[11:52] <OpenTokix> Matsy: ok
[11:52] <Patrickdk> and 3.5" 7k rpm disk is going max out around 80 iops per disk
[11:52] <Matsy> OpenTokix: How can you say that 'if you are running in vms, performance isn't a top issue'
[11:52] <OpenTokix> Matsy: its not
[11:53] <Patrickdk> a top, it is
[11:53] <Patrickdk> the top, no
[11:53] <Patrickdk> it's normally second to the top
[11:53] <Matsy> Yeah
[11:54] <Matsy> Availability is number one
[11:54] <Matsy> But performance is a very close one
[11:54] <Patrickdk> or simple of management
[11:54] <Patrickdk> ability to move to new hardware without it going nuts
[11:54] <OpenTokix> Matsy: Depends also if your traffic is counted in the hundreds, thousands or millions per second - or if your latency is in seconds, ms or us
[11:54] <Patrickdk> lots of single vm per machine
[11:55] <Matsy> Patrickdk: Oh, I never use single VM machines
[11:55] <Matsy> Patrickdk: A good hot-swappable environment takes care of the hardware changes
[11:58] <Teduardo> so if you add more disks to a raid-5 volume does that make the performance better or does it just mean that the seek time goes up?
[11:58] <Matsy> More disks to raid 5 does not mean more performance
[11:58] <Sling> you shouldn't run big raid5 sets :)
[11:59] <Matsy> ^
[11:59] <Sling> I'd consider 6 disks the max
[11:59] <Sling> beyond that the performance impact is big and much worse your rebuild times will be very long
[11:59] <Sling> during which your array has no fault-protection at all
[11:59] <OpenTokix> And will probably fail (the rebuild)
[11:59] <Teduardo> yeah the rebuild times and stuff arent that big of a deal given it's cold/backup storage
[12:00] <jpds> Deploy Ceph.
[12:00] <maswan> It depends on which performance though, read performance on a raid5 is roughly equivalent to the read performance of a n-1 raid0
[12:00] <Matsy> Why does performance matter on a cold storage
[12:00] <Sling> I'd say, use zfs
[12:00] <Teduardo> Matsy: restore not taking 10 days
[12:00] <maswan> Of course, for a parity raid, raid5 is very brave with modern disk sizes
[12:01] <Matsy> Teduardo: Go for 1+0 or something
[12:01] <Matsy> Should only take 5 days then
[12:01] <Sling> raid 6 would work as well, if your controller supports it
[12:01] <Sling> gives a bit more slack
[12:01] <Teduardo> r6 is slower than r5 right?
[12:01] <OpenTokix> Teduardo: yes
[12:01] <Sling> r6 tends to work on faster controllers
[12:01] <Sling> so in theory yes, in practice no
[12:01] <Sling> or 'hardly'
[12:02] <OpenTokix> raid5: 2 iops/write, 6 4/iops per write
[12:02] <Teduardo> ah, the controller in question is a 2GB PERC H730
[12:02] <Sling> but if you're doing many writes, r5/6 is not good anyway
[12:02] <Matsy> Which H730?
[12:03] <Teduardo> what do ya mean?
[12:03] <Sling> go for 1+0 if you want fast writes :)
[12:03] <maswan> it also depends on the size of the writes, if you do full stripe writes it is not so bad, as opposed to doing random small writes and getting a read-modify-write cycle int here
[12:04] <Teduardo> like i said i'm more concerned about how fast the data can be restored back to the client machine
[12:04] <Teduardo> it took 10 days for a 11TB restore in a DR test
[12:05] <Teduardo> trying to you know... make that.. not suck
[12:05] <Matsy> 10 days?!
[12:05] <Matsy> That's 700mb per minute
[12:05] <Matsy> That's very very slow :p
[12:05] <Teduardo> and like i said that was a bits to block device restore not a file restore
[12:05] <Teduardo> so it was hot garbage
[12:08] <Teduardo> anyway i will check out raid-10 and maybe enable ssd caching on the volume and see if that gets me anywhere
[12:08] <Matsy> Wait, you're using SSDs?
[12:08] <Teduardo> no
[12:09] <Teduardo> the controller can use SSDs as read cache
[12:09] <Teduardo> i will install some for that purpose
[12:09] <Teduardo> just to test around with
[12:09] <Teduardo> since i have pretty much unlimited hw
[12:10] <Teduardo> i imagine that i'm going to find that this is all limited by the software and then im going to be unhappy
[12:12] <Sling> so I have an init script with 'Required-Start: $network $remote_fs $syslog', but during bootup it fails to bind to the interfaces defined in /etc/network/interfaces, after booting is done I restart the service, and it works fine
[12:12] <Matsy> Unlimited hardware, I envy you
[12:12] <Sling> what could be causing the network service to report as up to init/upstart/whatever but the interface to be still unavailable for binding?
[12:12] <Sling> service in question is pdns-recursor
[12:13] <maswan> Teduardo: well, if you are not seeing lots of io-wait state, you're not waiting for the storag
[12:13] <Teduardo> Matsy: well, its the company's and not mine of course haha =)
[12:14] <Matsy> Teduardo: I work at a university. Unlimited hardware is still very rare.
[12:14] <Matsy> Every time I need to buy a new server, there's 200+ pages of bureaucracy
[12:14] <Teduardo> yeah, currently i am playing with a bunch of Intel NVMe PCI Express drives
[12:14] <Matsy> Sigh
[12:15] <Matsy> Those are such beasts
[12:15] <Teduardo> yeah, bios support for booting them is dodgy so have to use uefi and uefi + pxelinux is... errr.. wacky (for me anyway)
[12:16] <Teduardo> but they are monsters, yes
[12:16] <Matsy> Why do you boot them though?
[12:16] <Matsy> Seems overkill for just booting
[12:16] <Matsy> I mean, servers restarting in 0.1 second or 0.2 seconds
[12:16] <Matsy> I'd love to switch my mongo-disks to them though :p
[12:17] <Matsy> Maybe in the new fiscal year...
[12:17] <Teduardo> hehe yeah, it's kind of my job to make sure that we know all of the potential answers to all of the potential questions before hand, so i just test
[12:17] <Teduardo> im not sure i would boot from them
[12:34] <Teduardo> and now we wait for the background initialization..
[12:34] <Teduardo> woe
[13:38] <delinquentme> can rsynch used to jsut sync folders remote and local?
[13:40] <teward> delinquentme: rsync can be used to sync folders and files between two locations, yes, I believe, but depending on what you want to do you may have to provide additional arguments and options to it. You may wish to refer to 'man rsync' (without the ' characters) to read up on the various options.
[17:37] <rickbeldin> Hi. Not sure where to go with this. I'm having a landscape issue. When I login to landscape and attempt to select the 'Support' option at the top (I have valid entitlements), it takes me to a Salesforce.com login screen instead of the Canonical support portal.
[17:39] <rickbeldin> The link is the 'Support' link here: https://landscape.canonical.com/account/hp-l3-support/activities
[17:41] <sarnold> rickbeldin: I think that's intentional; at least, when I go to the url you provided. I wind up at an Ubuntu SSO login prompt.. I login, see the landscape interface, hit my own "support" link, which brings me to https://eu1.salesforce.com/500/o -- which appears fully active and live..
[17:42] <rickbeldin> I was using the interface yesterday, and it logged me right in to where you could see cases.
[17:42] <sarnold> rickbeldin: I've heard some sso oddities can be poked in the eye by visiting https://login.ubuntu.com/ first
[17:43] <rickbeldin> !!!
[17:43] <rickbeldin> +1 sarnold.
[17:44] <sarnold> rickbeldin: did that sort it?
[17:44] <rickbeldin> Not very intuitive. Sort of along the lines of ctrl-alt-delete or close your browser and restart. Yes, it fixed it. Thanks very much.
[17:44] <sarnold> no kidding...
[17:46] <sarnold> rickbeldin: I don't kno wmuch about the support / landscape end of things.. it feels like one of those support tickets there would be the place to report the bug, but if those cost you money, _maybe_ this is a better place to start: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/landscape -- seems a bit empty there, but it might be worth a try
[17:46] <jazzorius> I have a question about ufw. The log files (small sample here: http://pastebin.com/5pguu4kN ) show many connection requests to port 80 being blocked.
[17:47] <rickbeldin> Thanks. This was the first time and now I know which way to hold my nose. : )
[17:47] <sarnold> rickbeldin: hehe :)
[17:47] <jazzorius> Port 80 is open because the server hosts a website. My nginx logs don't show any requests from these IPs. Is ufw blocking legitimate requests? The IP addresses seem like legit users, not server farms.
[18:36] <CompuChip> Hi. Can someone please help me replace a broken disk in a RAID1. I am getting really confused with the output of mdstat to the point where I am not even sure which disk is broken (it is showing 5 md12* disks, with inactive sdb2[0](S), active sdb5[0] [U_], active sdb1[0] [U_], active sda5[1] [_U] and active sda[2] [_U]).
[18:37] <CompuChip> I think it was sda that failed because for a bit I couldn't boot (no operating system) but that seems to have gone away. I get a login prompt but I can't login when booting from HDD, and now using a Server 14.04 rescue CD to get a prompt.
[18:39] <sarnold> CompuChip: I think it'll be easier for other sto help you debug the issue ifyou can pastebin status outputs or similar; the pastebinit package can be very helpful here
[18:39] <CompuChip> Thanks sarnold, can I install that from the rescue disk prompt?
[18:40] <sarnold> CompuChip: I hope so; apt-get update && apt-get install pastebinit to find out :)
[18:40] <CompuChip> apt-get not found :)
[18:41] <sarnold> dang :)
[18:41] <CompuChip> If I select that I want /dev/sda1 as root and open a shell there I get apt-get but no internet connection
[18:43] <CompuChip> Don't seem to have a DNS, I can ping <IP_ADDRESS> but not google.com.
[18:44] <sarnold> CompuChip: try adding <IP_ADDRESS> to your /etc/resolv.conf
[18:44] <sarnold> CompuChip: this might work for you once you've got dns up: http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/5918/7064
[18:48] <CompuChip> sarnold: thanks, got a bunch of error but think I installed astebinit
[18:49] <CompuChip> Yay it worked http://paste.ubuntu.com/10928895/
[18:50] <sarnold> nice! now you get to solve your actual problem :)
[18:52] <CompuChip> Shall I ask the question again? :)
[18:55] <CompuChip> One of the disks in my RAID1 is broken. I am getting really confused with the output of mdstat to the point where I am not even sure which disk is broken - http://paste.ubuntu.com/10928895/
[18:59] <CompuChip> What's even more confusing is that the Rescue Disk refuses to mount /dev/sdb1 as the root, even when I physically swap the connections.
[19:00] <CompuChip> I can only get a shell in /dev/sda1.
[19:52] <wk5h> been a while since I've run Ubuntu as a server, and getting back into it. seems like there used to be a post-install graphical command where you could change some of the settings, such as ip address, mount points, etc. that looked a lot like the install process. make sense?
[19:53] <patdk-wk> no idea
[19:54] <wk5h> thought it was a some tk scripts that was packaged with it... maybe I'm thinking of a different distro.
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[00:11] <rsalveti> ToyKeeper: so in case you have some hands to help us with the silo, it's ready and tested now, silo 02
[00:13] <ToyKeeper> rsalveti: What's the bug for that one? I've mostly missed this issue.
[00:14] <rsalveti> ToyKeeper: 2 bugs, easy to reproduce:
[00:14] <rsalveti> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telephony-service/+bug/1447606
[00:14] <rsalveti> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-hub/+bug/1449213
[00:16] <rsalveti> ToyKeeper: can you ping me on telegram once you're done with it? @rsalveti
[00:16] <rsalveti> ToyKeeper: I'll grab some food, and will be back to build the image
[00:16] <ToyKeeper> I suppose that might require making a telegram account..
[00:16] <rsalveti> ToyKeeper: oh, then just email me, it's fine
[00:17] <rsalveti> thanks, bbl
[03:09] <rsalveti> ToyKeeper: hey, all good with the silo?
[03:11] <rsalveti> it seems so, from the trello card comments
[03:40] <imgbot> [03:41] <ToyKeeper> rsalveti: Sorry, I got a little sidetracked... yes, it seems like it should land.
[03:42] <ToyKeeper> I need to go find a way to tow a locked car with no keys. Probably won't be around again tonight. :(
[04:55] <imgbot> [04:55] <imgbot> [04:57] <Mirv> robru: thanks for 017! and yes, the overlay field was not yet set.
[06:34] <vila> Mirv: argh, silo 17 is empty already ?
[06:36] <vila> Mirv: I ran a test on it yesterday, no hang after 54 reboots so fix is good, but some weirdness nevertheless
[06:37] <vila> Mirv: but I had a power failure and lost the logs :-(
[06:39] <vila> Mirv: one thing I wanted to talk about with you (apart from validating the config process) is that openvpn was installed from the archive... quite unexpected
[06:44] <vila> Mirv: I'm about to wipe the phone for another test, except for /var/log/dpkg.log (which shows openvpn being installed but not much details about who triggered that), anything else interesting to preserve ?
[06:51] <Mirv> vila: yeah, QA signed it off during the night so it landed
[06:51] <vila> Mirv: and landing implies cleaning up the PPA automatically ?
[06:51] <Mirv> vila: yes, since the last step of landing is merging the change to trunk + cleaning PPA
[06:51] <Mirv> vila: openvpn, interesting..
[06:51] <vila> damn
[06:52] <Mirv> vila: so now it's part of the morning's new image already
[06:52] <vila> Mirv: sorry I lost those logs :-/
[06:52] <vila> openvpn:armhf 2.3.2-9ubuntu4 ?
[06:52] <Mirv> vila: well if openvpn gets installed as part of some test config it's interesting but not really that serious, as it doesn't affect the normal images setup
[06:53] <Mirv> I haven't seen it in my AP tests, but maybe some network manager recommends dependency or such
[06:53] <vila> Mirv: yup, my worries was about tainting silo tests instead, not the image
[06:53] <Mirv> right, well openvpn alone without setting it up doesn't do anything
[06:53] * vila nods
[06:53] <Mirv> vila: anyway, thanks a lot for the help yesterday parallizing the testing!
[06:54] <vila> Mirv: hehe, my pleasure, thanks for fixing that annoying bug that followed me from CI to QA ;)
[06:54] <vila> Mirv: oh
[06:55] <vila> The other thing I wanted to talk about: what's the story there, the fix stops sharing dbus connections, got that. But what's the explanation ? Some race between two dialogs over dbus deadlocking ?
[07:00] <Mirv> vila: my understanding is that the newly used function asks more nicely about getting a connection to dbus instead of sharing/using a pre-existing connection. which then helps to workaround the Qt bug.
[07:01] <Mirv> both should work but since the QDBus currently isn't completely bug free regarding threads, it's better this way
[07:04] <vila> Mirv: got it, thread safety
[08:25] <Mirv> thanks also pete-woods, tsdgeos for your yesterday's efforts! problem solved, for now.
[08:26] <sil2100> Mirv, pete-woods1, tvoss: thanks guys for fixing the big unity8 blocker \o/
[08:26] <pete-woods1> sil2100: :D
[08:26] <Mirv> oh and tvoss indeed :)
[08:27] <pete-woods1> it was tvoss really. I had no idea what I could be doing wrong
[08:27] <sil2100> Well, with those 3 powers combined a working solution has been formed ;p
[08:28] <tsdgeos> Mirv: i'll discard unity8's branch
[08:35] <Mirv> tsdgeos: ok
[08:36] <sil2100> jibel: hangout problems
[09:20] <tvoss> sil2100, oh, did the dbus thingy help?
[09:20] <sil2100> tvoss: indeed it did!
[09:20] <tvoss> great
[09:20] <sil2100> :)
[09:20] <sil2100> ...or we just had really really bad luck reproducing it
[09:21] <sil2100> But both me and Mirv ran like 400 boot-loops in total
[09:21] <sil2100> While usually it was reproducible in 10-50 loops
[09:49] <Mirv> tvoss: yes, a golden tip that was
[10:57] <popey> sil2100: who (from QA) is doing the validation of the arale image? (if anyone right now)?
[11:11] <davmor2> popey: how is sil2100 going to know :P
[11:12] <davmor2> popey: I'm sanity testing it now along with jibel then everyone will be regression testing it
[11:12] <popey> ok. well, bug 1449460 exists
[11:13] <popey> if you're tagging bugs for arale or whatever, that one should be on it.
[11:17] <davmor2> popey: and what happens when it works?
[11:18] <popey> eh?
[11:19] <davmor2> popey: I can fast forward and reverse in a play list and I can skip between tracks back and forward too
[11:20] <popey> the bug details what's wrong
[11:20] <popey> unplug it and let it advance itself
[11:20] * popey updates his arale to make sure he's not on old crack
[11:22] <davmor2> popey: trying it now
[11:25] <davmor2> popey: we need like 20second music clips for this :D
[11:26] <popey> good point :)
[11:26] <popey> Time to make a cup of tea while you listen
[12:53] <om26er> Kaleo, Hi!
[13:22] <greyback_> cihelp: hey, I'm seeing this error with CI for qtmir, any idea is it a jenkins issue: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/qtmir-vivid-amd64-ci/103/console
[13:23] <fginther> greyback_, looking
[13:24] <greyback_> fginther: is that "mkdir" failure a fatal one, or jenkins can continue?
[13:26] <sil2100> jibel, robru, popey, rvr, davmor2, ogra_: since testing is in progress, if you guys don't mind we'll skip todays meeting as well, I'll use the occassion to drive for practice
[13:26] <popey> kk
[13:26] <fginther> greyback_, it's a fatal error. I'll have to repair that builder as it's been corrupted (it's a jenkins issue we've been trying to workaround). I've taken the node offline and re-triggered the two failed qtmir MPs.
[13:27] <davmor2> sil2100: whatever mr cancel cancel ;)
[13:27] <jibel> sil2100, I'm always fine with canceling meetings
[13:27] <greyback_> fgimenez: ack, thanks for handling it
[13:35] <ogra_> sil2100, yes, it is needed for making VPN work (still looking into it, that seems ot not be all) ... sorry for the late answer, got disconnected before seeing your reply
[13:55] <Saviq> sil2100, this should be a blocker for RC: bug #1449503
[13:56] <sil2100> jibel, Mirv, ogra_, popey, rvr, robru, davmor2: I'm actually thinking of modifying the meetings to only have 2 morning ones and 2 evening ones in the week
[13:56] <ogra_> sounds valid
[13:56] <sil2100> jibel, Mirv, ogra_, popey, rvr, robru, davmor2: this way everyone could plan their day better, and we don't need to have meetings daily as we already noticed, we have mail and IRC
[13:57] <sil2100> Saviq: lookinh
[13:57] <ogra_> +1
[13:58] <sil2100> Saviq: hm, is the icon size the only vivisble change? Or does this have more implications?
[13:59] <rsalveti> davmor2: hey, pmcgowan said you were having location issues with latest vivid image
[14:00] <Mirv> sil2100: no problem, and we can schedule more in times of special needs for example
[14:02] <davmor2> rsalveti: taking this elsewhere
[14:08] <sil2100> Mirv: exactly
[14:27] <kgunn> sil2100: so are we good to resume landing whatever into ppa overlay ?
[14:28] <sil2100> kgunn: not yet... QA is still running tests on the current images and well, there's risk that we'll need a re-spin with some fixes ;/
[14:29] <sil2100> Anyway, we'll know a bit more after the RTM status meeting
[14:29] * kgunn wonders if the irony is lost that i wanted a place to land, got it, then it froze too
[14:34] <Saviq> hmm does mako 186 boot for you guys? I'm getting "your device needs to be restored..." during flashing and then stuck on Google
[14:35] <pmcgowan> kgunn, NO
[14:35] <pmcgowan> we need the overlay overlay
[14:36] <sil2100> kgunn: sadly, freezes are needed if we don't want to have even more segmentation
[14:36] <sil2100> ;)
[14:40] <dbarth> o/ morning trainguards; looking for a silo for line 40; thanks
[14:40] <sil2100> dbarth: hey! Looking
[14:41] <sil2100> Mirv: remember always about setting the overlay ppa!
[14:56] <Mirv> sil2100: I was still in the habit of setting + reconfiguring it before publishing
[14:56] <sil2100> Mirv: ah ;)
[14:57] <sil2100> It's safer to configure it straight away, since then monkeys like me or robru just do button pressing and publish to vivid instead
[14:57] <sil2100> ;D
[15:01] <Mirv> sil2100: yes, noticed, and agree it's safer that way :)
[15:18] <sil2100> pstolowski: hey!
[15:20] <pstolowski> sil2100, hi!
[15:37] * sil2100 AFK, brb in ~2h - practice
[17:05] <bzoltan> trainguards: may I get a silo for an urgent fix? Line 41
[17:26] <robru> bzoltan: sorry about that, my irc client seems not to be beeping properly today. Got you silo 17
[17:41] <bzoltan> robru: pmcgowan: so the story is the next ... the silo17 has the MR what is the 1458 UITK (this is what was released last in the main Vivid) + 4 important bugfexes from loicm. _BUT_ and that is an important note. The trunk of the UITK is diverged so this MR should not land on trunk. Still it should land on the overlay PPA
[17:42] <bzoltan> robru: pmcgowan: hmmm... still it is wrong. The silo build tries to merge the branch to the trunk... crap it is all wrong :(
[17:43] <robru> bzoltan: train merges the mp with the mp target. If you don't want it merged in trunk, don't target the mp to trunk. Make a new branch to be the mp target.
[17:44] <robru> bzoltan: but I'm not sure how your can make a vivid release without targeting trunk, eg because then vivid will have a changelog entry not in trunk and then future builds against trunk will miss that and fail. Unless you mean you are permanently branching vivid and trunk stays for W devel
[17:45] <bzoltan> robru: actually what I want is to revert the trunk...
[17:48] <robru> bzoltan: the way to do that is to prepare new commits that revert the changes you don't want. You can't just build older commits because it will indeed merge in the latest trunk
[17:48] <bzoltan> robru: I want to land this MR on this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk/revision/1172
[17:49] <bzoltan> robru: so what should I do?
[17:49] <bzoltan> robru: the trunk 1172 is the staging 1458 ...
[17:50] <bzoltan> robru: how can I get the trunk back to the 1172 and land my MR what is based on 1458 staging?
[17:50] <robru> bzoltan: you need to make new committs that remove the stuff you don't want.
[17:51] <bzoltan> robru: how to do that?
[17:53] <robru> bzoltan: probably like http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/user-guide/adv_merging.html#reverse-cherrypicking
[17:53] <robru> If I'm understanding you correctly
[17:55] <bzoltan> robru: OK... so I can make a branch what simple rolls back the trunk to 1172... then I make an MP from it... we land and _then_ I can propose to land this MR what is now conflicting. Is that correct?
[17:57] <robru> bzoltan: well there's no reason not to do them both together. Do the reverse cherry pick to get rid of the commits you don't want, then merge in loic's commits, and build that as one big mp
[17:58] <bzoltan> robru: I see
[18:05] <robru> Brb
[18:30] <robru> bzoltan: does that make sense? do you need any more help? I'm nearing lunch
[18:31] <bzoltan> robru: it does, but we came up with a better solution... we simple drop the revisions we do want to get rid of ... ~200 lines of change only
[18:32] <bzoltan> robru: go and eat, dude :)
[18:32] <robru> heh, k
[18:54] <boiko> robru: hi, can I get a silo for row 42?
[19:07] <robru> boiko: silo 20
[19:07] <boiko> robru: nice! thanks!
[19:07] <robru> boiko: you're welcome
[20:08] <sil2100> bzoltan: hey! The header revert ready? :)
[20:56] <pmcgowan> sil2100, anyone testing the silos that are ready?
[20:56] <pmcgowan> sil2100, jibel we want silo 6 to land
[20:59] <jhodapp> robru, can I get a silo for line 46 please?
[21:02] <robru> jhodapp: silo 25
[21:02] <jhodapp> robru, thanks
[21:02] <robru> jhodapp: you're welcome
[21:04] <pmcgowan> silo 23 as well
[21:05] <pmcgowan> om26er, so for qa silos 6 and 23, anyone available?
[21:06] <om26er> pmcgowan, I can test 23 and ToyKeeper will be testing silo 6
[21:07] <ToyKeeper> I will be in a bit, anyway... need to finish something else first.
[21:14] <pmcgowan> om26er, we have a fix for video flicker in silo 21 as well, but we had not earlier agreed to land it
[21:15] <pmcgowan> but its one liner in the player
[21:25] <om26er> rsalveti, ping
[21:25] <om26er> rsalveti, these instructions don't seem to be working on arale https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing/lxc-android-config
[21:35] <rsalveti> om26er: /me looks
[21:38] <rsalveti> om26er: even if you try the krillin side?
[21:38] <rsalveti> om26er: adb reboot recovery
[21:38] <rsalveti> should work
[21:38] <rsalveti> then
[21:38] <rsalveti> adb shell mount /system
[21:38] <rsalveti> then adb push lxc-android-config_*.deb /system/tmp
[21:38] <rsalveti> then adb shell chroot /system /usr/bin/env PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin sh -c 'dpkg -i /tmp/*.deb'
[21:38] <rsalveti> that should all work
[21:39] <om26er> rsalveti, chroot: can't execute '/usr/bin/env': No such file or directory
[21:39] <rsalveti> om26er: try the following
[21:40] <rsalveti> PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin chroot /system
[21:40] <rsalveti> actually
[21:40] <rsalveti> the following:
[21:40] <rsalveti> adb shell
[21:40] <rsalveti> PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin chroot /system /bin/bash
[21:40] <rsalveti> then dpkg -i /tmp/*.deb
[21:40] <om26er> rsalveti, can't execute '/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[21:41] <rsalveti> what
[21:41] <om26er> btw /system is empty is that normal ?
[21:41] <rsalveti> om26er: did you call 'mount /system' first?
[21:42] <om26er> rsalveti, yes, I did.
[21:42] <rsalveti> om26er: then you're not using the latest partitioning
[21:42] <om26er> rsalveti, that is correct, yes
[21:42] <rsalveti> so first thing would be flashing that
[21:43] <rsalveti> so you can use the supported path/partitioning we now have for arale
[21:44] <om26er> rsalveti, ok, doing that now.
[21:58] <popey> did we break something in vivid-proposed? I just flashed my flo and it's stuck at the google logo
[22:02] * popey re-flashes in case he busted it
[22:13] <om26er> rsalveti, except for the bug fix is there anything else to look for ?
[22:13] <om26er> the change seems pretty simple (and safe ?)
[22:17] <rsalveti> om26er: yeah, it's safe
[22:17] <rsalveti> om26er: just the bug fix, really
[22:17] <rsalveti> as location-service is the only service writing/reading that dir
[22:23] <oSoMoN> trainguards: can I have a silo for line 47, please?
[22:25] <robru> oSoMoN: silo 26
[22:26] <oSoMoN> robru, thanks! I’ll need a binary copy of oxide-qt 1.7.4 from https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages into that silo, too
[22:27] <robru> oSoMoN: sure, one sec
[22:29] <robru> oSoMoN: ok copied, although apparently it's trying to build ppc64el. I guess that'll just fail? should be safe to run the build job now
[22:30] <oSoMoN> robru, yeah, that’s expected, it’ll fail but that’s ok
[22:30] <oSoMoN> robru, thanks
[22:30] <robru> oSoMoN: you're welcome
[22:55] <pat__> ToyKeeper, order of priority when ready - silo 6, 26, 20
[22:55] <ToyKeeper> Thanks!
[22:56] <ToyKeeper> Have already started on 6; had some flashing issues but now it's in progress.
[22:58] <pat__> great
[23:04] <sil2100> ToyKeeper: how much time do you think you need to sign it off?
[23:06] <sil2100> pmcgowan: I suppose we want silo 23 in as well?
[23:06] <sil2100> pmcgowan: same for 21?
[23:12] <pmcgowan> sil2100, yes, these are fairly simple fixes
[23:12] <pmcgowan> with good benefit
[23:12] <pmcgowan> sil2100, I updated the sheet to track all the available fixes
[23:13] <sil2100> ricmm, rsalveti: can we get https://code.launchpad.net/~ricmm/mediaplayer-app/no-clip/+merge/257687 approved?
[23:13] <pmcgowan> sil2100, we want 6 and 26 for sure
[23:13] <rsalveti> sil2100: yes
[23:13] <sil2100> pmcgowan: indeed, thanks :)
[23:13] <rsalveti> sil2100: doen
[23:20] <sil2100> queuebot went away again
[23:36] <ToyKeeper> Everything on the network is soooo sloooow today.
[23:39] <robru> sil2100: I pinged stgraber about it already, no response yet
[23:49] <ToyKeeper> Location works without ever having connected to a wifi network, but still not on the first boot.
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[06:13] <Kilos> hi philipballew nice to see you here
[06:26] <philipballew> Kilos, how goes it?
[06:28] <Kilos> good ty and you? just getting cold here
[06:28] <philipballew> Kilos, I see. Its about 20 C here currently in this part of America
[06:29] <philipballew> I keep reading bad things happening in South Africa lately. Hope all is not as bad as I hear.
[06:29] <Kilos> philipballew lovely, we are down to 10°c at night already but days reach 25
[06:30] <Kilos> its mainly groups of hooligans that mainly want to steal
[06:32] <philipballew> Kilos, Same is actually happening here today.
[06:32] <Kilos> the cover of being xenophobia is mainly a fancy name to cover thieving thugs
[06:32] <philipballew> Assholes Kilos ...
[06:33] <Kilos> i think the whole world has hassles when thugs gang up
[06:33] <Kilos> also the media blows things out of proportion always
[06:33] <philipballew> Today we had peaceful protests about race tensions break out into looting. You might see it on the news sooner or later.
[06:34] <Kilos> you in the states hey?
[06:34] <philipballew> Kilos, California
[06:35] <Kilos> some of our top guys work there now
[06:36] <philipballew> what company?
[06:36] <philipballew> I live on the California Mexico Border
[06:36] <Kilos> haha i read an article about za IT peeps making their mark in the world but they add they all drink a lot of coffee
[06:36] <Kilos> our guys are in silicon valley
[06:37] <philipballew> Kilos, yeah. I need to head up that way more often.
[06:38] <philipballew> I am either going to move there to find a job when I graduate, or get a job working remote and move to Mexicpo
[06:38] <philipballew> Mexico
[06:38] <philipballew> because living in America is way to much money.
[06:38] <Kilos> ah good luck
[06:39] <philipballew> Kilos, thanks man, I'm gonna need it.
[08:08] <Kilos> hi elacheche hows things
[08:08] <elacheche> Hi Kilos.. not that good, just ok
[08:09] <Kilos> i htink melodie will be away for a few days, she is giving a course to some mali peeps soon she said , i dont know if that started today
[08:09] <Kilos> why not that good? what did you break
[08:10] <elacheche> almost break my and my brother's legs 5 min ago x(
[08:11] <Kilos> wow how?
[08:11] <Kilos> car accident?
[08:12] <elacheche> Solo accident.. The front brake in my scooter hangs in actif mod while we're riding the scooter..
[08:13] <Kilos> ouch
[08:13] <Kilos> be careful man
[08:14] <Kilos> most likely the shoes are worn out
[08:14] <elacheche> x) Now I'll try to fix it by myself (after work) as the front wheel won't turn because of the brakes
[08:15] <Kilos> normally when the brake shoes wear too much then it goes over the point of return and locks up
[08:16] <Kilos> normally turning the wheel backwards releases them
[08:16] <Kilos> but they will keep locking till you replace the shoes
[08:16] <elacheche> I'll try that.. thx :)
[08:22] <Kilos> there should also be a cable from the handles to the wheel that fastens onto an arm, hit the arm with a rock in reversing doesnt help
[08:22] <Kilos> unles it hasa hydraulic breaks of course
[08:24] <elacheche> I think that they are hydraulic, I'll try play with the screw..
[08:24] <Kilos> if there is no cable then im sure the shoes are worn past their limit
[09:12] <lin_> Hey guys
[09:12] <lin_> Try loading http://ke.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages
[09:12] <lin_> I'm getting access denied :-(
[09:17] <Kilos> where lin?
[09:17] <Kilos> oh
[09:18] <lin_> Yes
[09:18] <Kilos> try another mirror
[09:18] <lin_> Stuck on upgrading packages
[09:18] <lin_> lol
[09:18] <Kilos> maybe upgrading or broken
[09:19] <Kilos> stickyboy fixit
[09:20] <stickyboy> lol
[09:20] <stickyboy> Man, Symmetria's storage prolly derped again.
[09:20] <stickyboy> I'm fixing my own storage problems! I've sent a mail back to you
[15:46] <Kilos> ty
[15:46] <Kilos> im not fast like you youngsters
[15:47] <melodie> Kilos I'm as old as you are
[15:47] <Kilos> nono
[15:47] <melodie> uou just need to practice tuxtype :D
[15:47] <melodie> sisi
[15:47] <Kilos> 11 years short
[15:47] <melodie> aha !
[15:47] <melodie> :o)
[15:48] <Kilos> :D
[15:48] <melodie> you know tuxtype?
[15:48] <melodie> ;D
[15:54] <Kilos> nope
[16:00] <melodie> it's fun and you practice typing
[16:00] <melodie> it's for children, but adults do well with it too
[16:00] <Kilos> lol melodie i will try that maybe tomorrow. we are having our monthly meeting tonight and our chairs are stuck at work
[16:01] <Kilos> i cant type like normal peeps, i use 2 fingers and have to see where the keys are
[16:01] <Kilos> hehe
[16:01] <melodie> 2 fingers ?
[16:01] <melodie> do you have 10 of them?
[16:02] <Kilos> they are old man and dont bend like young peeps or women
[16:02] <Kilos> stiff from years of manual work
[16:02] <melodie> if you do, I suggest you do the first 3 levels of klavaro to get you started
[16:03] <melodie> I also train with Klavaro once a while, incredible program!
[16:03] <Kilos> i will loom yes ty
[16:03] <melodie> and both are in the repos
[16:03] <melodie> have you received my mail about the sound bell.ogg ?
[16:03] <Kilos> but i have tried a few typing courses and hands are too stiff
[16:03] <Kilos> look
[16:04] <melodie> try harder! :D
[16:04] <melodie> don't give up, ever! :D
[16:04] <Kilos> lol you so cheeky with old peeps
[16:04] <melodie> you aren't old
[16:04] <Kilos> i do well with 2 fingers
[16:04] <melodie> there aren't old people on irc
[16:04] <Kilos> im in no rush
[16:05] <melodie> ,-)
[16:05] <melodie> ;D
[16:05] <Kilos> we have one guy 8 years older than me
[16:05] <melodie> neither am
[16:05] <melodie> I
[16:05] <melodie> just you said you aren't as fast as the young
[16:05] <melodie> but some young have not learned to use the keyboard either
[16:06] <Kilos> no i know some that do 160 words a min
[16:06] <melodie> and now I'm typing with a really hard one
[16:06] <melodie> I don't
[16:06] <Kilos> the guy that does the server for kenya is one
[16:06] <melodie> I just don't need to watch my fingers while typing, just what I write, and well that the practice with Klavaro
[16:06] <Kilos> types like a rocket
[16:06] <melodie> the practice with Tuxtype is to rest from Klavaro
[16:07] <Kilos> i go get gates
[16:07] <melodie> ok
[16:11] <Kilos> back
[16:13] <Kilos> melodie you just want to make me work more
[16:17] <melodie> Kilos I have worked for you and I'm waiting to know if the bell.ogg screenshot helps you?
[16:18] <Kilos> lol so cheeky
[16:19] <Kilos> oh yes girl i know setting xchat and hexchat and konversation well ty
[16:19] <Kilos> ive been using ubuntu since 9.04
[16:20] <melodie> Kilos but you would want the .ogg to be in the system? that was your point?
[16:20] <melodie> I have seen "oga" files
[16:20] <Kilos> but doing it that way gives me a lous sshhhh kinda of sound
[16:20] <melodie> not sure what format and container that is exactly
[16:21] <Kilos> bell.ogg must be a loud bloep
[16:21] <melodie> Kilos look better the screenshot I have put some marks
[16:21] <melodie> it is a loud blop if you set it up the way I show with the red arrows : I have written an explanation too
[16:21] <Kilos> i did
[16:21] <Kilos> but ill try again
[16:22] <Kilos> but not now
[16:22] <Kilos> trying to find a chair for tonights meeting
[16:22] <Kilos> guys are busy at work still
[16:24] <melodie> ok
[16:24] <Kilos> when is your course
[16:24] <melodie> just a question, which light music player do you use?
[16:24] <Kilos> vlc
[16:24] <melodie> whicy course?
[16:24] <melodie> this isn't light
[16:24] <melodie> you need something lighter
[16:24] <melodie> a very simple one
[16:24] <Kilos> i dont play much music
[16:25] <melodie> there is a ppa for deadbeef, or you could install audacious
[16:25] <melodie> you will play bell.ogg with xchat and an external music player, but a light one that runs fast !
[16:25] <melodie> this is how it works fine here.
[16:25] <melodie> else it does what you say, a strange noise
[16:25] <Kilos> thats an online player
[16:26] <Kilos> oh i also use mplayer
[16:26] <melodie> it needs the console to start
[16:26] <melodie> unless you use gmplayer or so
[16:26] <melodie> but once again, a light one is very very tiny and small on footprint
[16:26] <Kilos> i can do that
[16:27] <Kilos> but no online stuff that eat my data
[16:27] <melodie> right
[16:27] <melodie> I have kept the screenshot light and at same time not too small, so you can see the details. it's about 125kb
[16:28] <Kilos> i have to go eat girl
[16:28] <Kilos> wbb
[16:29] <Kilos> i can see it great ty
[16:38] <melodie> :)
[16:38] <melodie> ok
[17:00] <Kilos> tummy full now need to rest
[17:01] <Kilos> i even said night on #phillw
[17:01] <Kilos> can do many noisy channels when we have a meeting
[17:01] <Kilos> cant
[17:31] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:52] <superfly> Kilos: where is Maaz?
[17:53] <Kilos> lemme see
[17:53] <superfly> oh, no wonder, wrong channel!
[17:53] <Kilos> you in wrong channel superfly
[17:53] <Kilos> haha
[17:53] <superfly> Kilos: ek's te vinnig vir jou
[17:53] <Kilos> ek sien so
[18:05] <melodie> hi superfly
[18:05] <superfly> hi melodie
[18:05] <superfly> bonjour :-) (although that's all the French I know)
[18:06] <melodie> bonjour, comment ça va ? (How are you?)
[18:18] <superfly> -_- still sick, on day 4 of my migraine
[18:31] <melodie> superfly where does it come from?
[18:32] <superfly> melodie: I think I have influenza
[18:34] <Kilos> melodie you want to join our monthly meeting
[18:35] <Kilos> #ubuntu-za
[18:35] <melodie> Kilos is it very verbose?
[18:36] <Kilos> whats verbose
[18:36] <superfly> Kilos: you are verbose. you talk a lot
[18:36] <Kilos> hee hee
[18:36] <melodie> superfly you can get cured faster if you use "magnesium" (chlorure de magnésium)
[18:36] <superfly> melodie: yes, I'm taking magnesium :-)
[18:36] <melodie> superfly I bet you don't have much appetite?
[18:37] <melodie> you can eat light, chicken soup, fruit juices (not at same time though :D )
[18:37] <superfly> yeah, on Sunday I wasn't hungry
[18:47] <Kilos> arnaim good and you
[19:33] <melodie> Kilos how is the meeting going?
[19:35] <Kilos> just closing melodie
[19:35] <melodie> ok
[19:35] <melodie> I can ask a question there now then
[19:37] <Kilos> yes
[19:37] <Kilos> lol
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"authors": [
"DalekSec",
"holstein",
"zequence"
],
"channel": "#ubuntustudio-devel",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:92",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/28/%23ubuntustudio-devel.txt"
}
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[01:53] <holstein> DalekSec: it wasnt that kind of show
[01:54] <holstein> more of a tux, sit around and wait.. play a 20's tune.. sit around.. play half a tune.. collect check.. leave, kind of deal
[07:30] <zequence> Going to do my last ever update to linux-lowlatency
[07:45] <DalekSec> Last? Though, that's got to be nice to get that off your hands.
[07:47] <zequence> DalekSec: Yep. I'm just doing factory work basically, and it's fine until I screw something up which just takes up unecessary time
[07:49] <zequence> ..and I did screw up my last update, which is why this one will take a bit more time :P
[16:54] <zequence> Apparently Xubuntu went EOL sunday, but it's not announced yet.
[16:54] <zequence> Precise, that is
[16:54] <zequence> I'll soon announce EOL for Studio Precise, and also linux-lowlatency
[20:14] <holstein> though, the repos will still be up
[20:14] <holstein> its a bit confusing.. but, its the nature of it, i suppose
[21:46] <zequence> It's not something we can control anyhow. Probably most people who still use precise do so on servers
[21:47] <zequence> What was the code name for 10.04? I kind of miss that release though not the Studio version as much. It was blazing fast. 9.04 was it, that was pretty awesome with an rt kernel?
[21:47] <zequence> 6 years!
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2015-04-28-#ubuntu-us-fl
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{
"authors": [
"ahoneybun",
"mhall119"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-fl",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:93",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/28/%23ubuntu-us-fl.txt"
}
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[22:20] <ahoneybun> mhall119: ping
[22:22] <mhall119> ahoneybun: pong, but I'm about to cook dinner, so leave me a message
[22:22] <ahoneybun> I want to talk about setting up translations for uBeginner
[22:23] <mhall119> ahoneybun: tutorial should be posted tomorrow morning, European time
[22:23] <ahoneybun> ok cool mhall119, I have the i18n.tr tags over everything so I should be good
[22:25] <ahoneybun> lol
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{
"authors": [
"Mmike",
"TheMue",
"alexisb",
"anastasiamac",
"axw",
"aznashwan",
"davecheney",
"dimitern",
"ericsnow",
"fwereade",
"jam",
"katco",
"mattyw",
"menn0",
"mgz_",
"mup",
"natefinch",
"perrito666",
"sinzui",
"voidspace",
"wallyworld",
"wwitzel3"
],
"channel": "#juju-dev",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:94",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/28/%23juju-dev.txt"
}
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[00:00] <menn0> wallyworld: thanks
[00:02] <wallyworld> menn0: actually, i don't have credentials for jujubot, i'll ask the qa guys
[00:05] <menn0> wallyworld: I would have thought you could do it with your own account?
[00:09] <wallyworld> menn0: that's don
[00:09] <wallyworld> e
[00:10] <wallyworld> menn0: yeah, i could, i didn't realise i could :-)
[00:14] <menn0> wallyworld: cheers :)
[00:14] <wallyworld> np
[00:19] <wallyworld> menn0: fyi, i'm working on the status 2.0 spec based on notes from the sprint; still very much wip https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/19ljAmIe3wVC-jpDRFl8KfvJKQzx0HIC0yuPu3cCMh7Q
[00:23] <menn0> wallyworld: having a quick look
[00:28] <menn0> wallyworld: looking good so far
[00:28] <menn0> wallyworld: I made a few tiny typo corrections
[00:29] <wallyworld> menn0: oh ty, didn't mean to burden you just yet with corrections :-)
[00:29] <menn0> wallyworld: I couldn't help myself :)
[00:29] <wallyworld> :-)
[01:11] <sinzui> wallyworld, Do you have minute to review http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1497/
[01:12] <wallyworld> sure
[01:12] <wallyworld> sinzui: you always give me the difficult ones
[01:13] <sinzui> wallyworld, its an opportunity for you to say STOP, I have another issue that needs fixing
[01:14] <wallyworld> sinzui: i left off the :-)
[01:14] <sinzui> :)
[01:25] <sinzui> wallyworld, http://reports.vapour.ws/releases/2570 shows that 1.23.2 Passed every test, even against adverse dirty substrates and flakey vivid
[01:26] <wallyworld> yay
[01:26] <sinzui> This is could be the highest score ever gotten
[01:26] <wallyworld> now all we need is for 1.24 to do the same
[01:28] <wallyworld> let's hope it's reproducable then
[01:41] <axw> wallyworld: reviewed your branch
[01:41] <wallyworld> ty
[01:47] <wallyworld> axw: with the client facade, william didn't want to bump that beyond 0. the only other alternative is to introduce a whole new facade and stick the method on that. I started going down that path but couldn't decide on a suitable facade so took the path of least resistence (the branch was already big enough and i was trying to get it done in time before branching). given we already have AddMachinesV2, any proper refactoring work would
[01:47] <wallyworld> have to sort out that stuff also, which is getting beyond the scope of removing a storage feature flag
[01:48] <axw> wallyworld: why does he not want to bump the version?
[01:50] <wallyworld> gets messy - we would need to fire up api servers for both 0 and the new version, and we want to ultimately move stuff off client anyway
[01:50] <wallyworld> we support uniter v 0, 1, 2, but that's a much smaller facade
[01:50] <wallyworld> i was trying to avoid depending on a charm repo change with the patching but i guess that's unavoidable :-(
[01:51] <wallyworld> and even with the uniter stuff, the tests are incomplete as it's hard to write common tests to cover all facade versions
[01:52] <wallyworld> s/hard/tedious due to code cut and paste
[01:55] <axw> wallyworld: can we at least hide this ugliness in api/client? so if the caller of AddMachines specifies storage, it calls AddMachinesV3 instead of V2
[02:25] <axw> wallyworld: not sure ify ou saw this before
wallyworld: can we at least hide this ugliness in api/client? so if the caller of AddMachines specifies storage, it calls AddMachinesV3 instead of V2
[03:10] <wallyworld> axw: here's a patch to the charm repo to allow juju to patch the NewCharmStore from any package https://github.com/juju/charm/pull/123
[03:11] <axw> wallyworld: ?! why?
[03:11] <axw> where is this needed?
[03:12] <wallyworld> axw: to allow core tests to run - stuff in the apiserver/service package calls into methods in apiserver/client and the apiserver/client code calls NewCharmRepo and this needs to be patched. the apiserver/client package patches NewCharmRepo but you objected to tha being exposed to apiserver/service package
[03:13] <axw> wallyworld: I object to patching across packages in general, not that one case
[03:14] * axw looks at code in question
[03:14] <wallyworld> so it's easier to just patch at the source of the charm repo creation instead of indirectly
[03:16] <wallyworld> axw: sadly we already patch charmrepo.CacheDir
[03:16] <wallyworld> so i'm at least lining up with what's done already
[03:17] <axw> yeah, I want to stop the sadness :) I'm looking if there's a better alternative..
[03:17] <wallyworld> and the client code patches across packages anyway to patch charmrepo.NewCharmRepo
[03:17] <wallyworld> longer term, agreed. but this is simply to remove a feature flag to get 1.24 out
[03:18] <wallyworld> it's not introducing new badness
[03:18] <axw> wallyworld: service doesn't call into client, client calls into service
[03:18] <wallyworld> service calls s.APIState.Client().AddCharmWithAuthorization(curl, nil)
[03:18] <axw> client previously *internally* patched that function, which isn't great but at least doesn't spread the hack around
[03:18] <wallyworld> to set up a test
[03:18] * axw looks again
[03:19] <axw> I see
[03:19] <wallyworld> yes it did, but any code can also patch cahrmrepo.CahedDir
[03:20] <wallyworld> this is a consequence of starting to move service apis off the client facade
[03:20] <wallyworld> and onto their own Service facade
[03:20] <wallyworld> there's a whole bunch of other service apis with todos to move
[03:21] <wallyworld> sadly, it we designed our code using inversion of control, this wouldn't be an issue, but we didn't :-(
[03:24] <axw> wallyworld: this can be fixed by changing apiserver/service to operate on interfaces rather than *state.State. getting out of scope, so please ditch the juju/charm change and use the original patch change and add a TODO(wallyworld)
[03:25] <axw> if we're adding hacks, let's at least confine them to juju/juju
[03:27] <anastasiamac> axw: wallyworld: on a different note, here is the start of dynamic add - http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1498/
[03:49] <axw> anastasiamac: reviewing now
[03:49] <anastasiamac> axw: tyvm :D
[03:55] <axw> anastasiamac: done
[04:15] <wallyworld> axw: so, just to confirm you happy to retain the x-package patching as per what i submitted so that we don't have to modify charm.v5? that was my original thought and rationale also
[04:22] <wallyworld> axw: FFS, disconnected again, may have missed your reply
[04:48] <axw> wallyworld: sorry, was afk. yes.
[04:49] <axw> wallyworld: provided it gets replaced later with an interface and the cross-package patching removed
[04:51] <wallyworld> axw: yeah, there's a bit of work to do there. won't happen for 1.24 is suspect, best we can do is 1.25. i've updated the PR on RB
[04:51] <axw> looking
[05:28] <wallyworld> axw: i guess i should add a MachineManager facade and stuck the new AddMachine API on that. i was previously trying to avoid missing the 1.24 branching but given that's already happened, might be best not to introduce another lagacy API to have to support
[05:29] <axw> wallyworld: that would be ideal
[05:30] <wallyworld> yeah, agreed. sigh. branch already soo bg
[05:31] <axw> wallyworld: I already gave a shipit, you don't have to do it immediately
[05:31] <wallyworld> axw: ok, i'll land but then do an immediate followup
[05:31] <axw> cool
[05:39] <axw> wallyworld: is that a straight backport? do I need to review again?
[05:43] <mup> Bug #1449367 was opened: remove storage feature flag <juju-core:Triaged by wallyworld> <juju-core 1.24:In Progress by wallyworld> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449367>
[05:49] <mup> Bug #1449367 changed: remove storage feature flag <juju-core:Triaged by wallyworld> <juju-core 1.24:In Progress by wallyworld> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449367>
[05:55] <mup> Bug #1449367 was opened: remove storage feature flag <juju-core:Triaged by wallyworld> <juju-core 1.24:In Progress by wallyworld> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449367>
[07:07] <mup> Bug #1449390 was opened: storage: charms must wait for storage to be attached before running "install" hook <storage> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449390>
[09:02] <TheMue> voidspace: sorry for not being in hangout, have to help daughter
[09:03] <voidspace> TheMue: no problem
[09:03] <voidspace> TheMue: it's just you and me anyway :-)
[09:03] <voidspace> TheMue: I'm working on forward porting the addressable container feature flag to master
[09:03] <voidspace> TheMue: nearly done
[09:03] <voidspace> TheMue: hard work - just about none of the patch applied cleanly
[09:03] <voidspace> TheMue: only two more files to do though
[09:03] <voidspace> TheMue: that's my report :-)
[09:13] <mup> Bug #1449436 was opened: Environment variables are not propagated to jujud on vivid <juju-core:New> <juju-core 1.23:New> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged by axwalk> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449436>
[09:14] <TheMue> voidspace: so, "first aid" done, daughter has troubles with her car on the highway and asked what to do. and the other daughter is ill at home. :(
[09:15] <TheMue> voidspace: I'm currently writing a little conference report about last week, the continue with the process changes with Katherine, and will then take a look in the list Dimiter sent
[09:22] <voidspace> TheMue: ok
[09:25] <mup> Bug #1449436 changed: Environment variables are not propagated to jujud on vivid <juju-core:New> <juju-core 1.23:New> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged by axwalk> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449436>
[09:31] <mup> Bug #1449436 was opened: Environment variables are not propagated to jujud on vivid <juju-core:New> <juju-core 1.23:New> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged by axwalk> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449436>
[10:19] <axw> jam: gotta go, fix up for review here FYI -- http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1500/
[10:19] <jam> axw: have a good night
[10:19] <jam> axw: I believe this should also go into 1.23, right?
[10:19] <jam> Since that is what we're actually releasing on V
[10:21] <Mmike> lads, when I bootstrap my env and then do 'juju ensure-availability', juju will fire up additional three units, set up replicaset for mongodb and all of that. Now when unit 0 dies (the initial bootstrap unit) I can't connect to my env any more. I need to manually change my environment.jenv file and remove references to machine 0 from there. Then juju works ok again. Now I want to remove machine 0 from juju, as it no longer exists, but juju won't let me
[10:21] <Mmike> do so, saying: "ERROR no machines were destroyed: machine 0 is required by the environment".
[10:21] <Mmike> Is this by design, or am I doing something wrong?
[10:21] <Mmike> Using juju 1.22 currently, but observed same behaviour on 1.23
[10:22] <natefinch> hooooly shit. just went to write a fake object to fulfill the CloudConfig interface, and umm.. it has over 60 functions :/
[10:29] <davecheney> that's no interface .... mother of god!
[10:29] <davecheney> Mmike: machine 0 is special, it cannot be removed
[10:30] <natefinch> luckily the function I need to mock it for only uses like 6 of those functions, so I can replace the interface with a more narrow one, but still, jeezus.
[10:31] <natefinch> davecheney, Mmike: you definitely should be able to kill machine 0 and have your environment still work fine.
[10:31] <natefinch> (when in HA)
[10:32] <natefinch> I don't know about actually tell juju to remove the phantom machine from its DB, but your environment should definitely still work.
[10:33] <jam> natefinch: seems a bit oversized. Though you can do ttype
[10:33] <jam> type MyFake struct { CloudConfig }
[10:33] <jam> and then only override the ones you actually want to
[10:33] <jam> (you'll get nil pointer dereference failures for anything that gets used that you didn't define)
[10:33] <jam> Mmike: so I'd like to walk through it a bit with you.
[10:33] <jam> After "juju ensure-availability" do you end up with 3 or 4 total machines?
[10:33] <jam> (I would expect 3)
[10:33] <jam> second, after those machines are up and running, you should be able to run "juju status", and connect to that env
[10:33] <jam> and then it will notice that there are more machines
[10:33] <jam> and record them as alternatives in your environments.jen
[10:33] <jam> It won't actually record new machines until they are up and running and connected (AIUI)
[10:33] <jam> but you shouldn't have to edit your JENV normally
[10:33] <jam> just you have to connect to the environment once the extra machines are running.
[10:33] <jam> Mmike: third, after machine-0 has died, you probably need to run "juju ensure-availability" again, where it should now notice that you have a dead machine, and try to take it out of official API server status
[10:33] <jam> (this is a bit of a wart, and we're looking at splitting up ensure-ha into more precise commands)
[10:33] <jam> and then you can "juju destroy-machine machine-0" (sp?)
[10:33] <jam> once it has lost its voting status
[10:34] <Mmike> jam: i see
[10:34] <Mmike> jam: let me try that
[10:35] <natefinch> jam: good idea embedding the interface in the struct
[10:50] <perrito666> morning all
[10:55] <Mmike> jam: where can I find the password jujud is using to connect to mongod?
[11:03] <jam> Mmike: you have to look on machine-0 for it, it should be in /var/lib/juju/agents/machine-0/agent.conf I think
[11:03] <jam> Mmike: sorry, looks like "/var/lib/juju/agents/machine-0.conf"
[11:05] <Mmike> jam: ack, thnx
[11:05] <perrito666> nope /var/lib/juju/agents/machine-0/agent.conf
[11:05] <perrito666> jam: unlest it changed
[11:05] <jam> perrito666: that's what I originally thought, but our backups test disagree
[11:06] <jam> perrito666: ./state/backups/files_test.go:114: filepath.Join(s.root, "/var/lib/juju/agents/machine-0.conf"),
[11:06] <Mmike> jam: actually on 1.22 it's in /var/lib/juju/agents/machine-0/agent.conf
[11:06] <Mmike> just verified
[11:06] <perrito666> jam: ill remember to ping eric on that one
[11:07] <jam> perrito666: k. That sounds suspiciously like its a bad test.
[11:08] <jam> perrito666: but "cmds/juju-restore" does use /var/lib/juju/agents/machine-0/agent.conf
[11:08] <perrito666> jam: it is
[11:08] <perrito666> jam: looking at the code that it is testing it does not really matter since that seems the result of faking a glob result
[11:08] <perrito666> but is missleading
[11:09] <jam> perrito666: yeah, I'm not saying the test doesn't pass, but we shouldn't have incorrect paths in a backup test :)
[11:09] <perrito666> I have opened and restored that files enought times to know it is named agent.conf :p
[11:09] * perrito666 makes a note for a less urgent time
[11:10] <jam> perrito666: :)
[11:10] <jam> yeah, I would guess you did
[11:17] <dimitern> voidspace, ping
[11:34] <jam> Mmike: did you get things to work?
[11:34] <Mmike> jam: nope, not yet, my openstack deploy is a bit slow as I'm testing some other stuff too, so it takes time...
[11:34] <jam> Mmike: np
[11:35] <jam> just curious
[11:35] <Mmike> jam: yup, have a case about that, so I need to know how it works
[11:35] <Mmike> and for convenience too :)
[11:37] <dimitern> fwereade, http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1501/
[11:38] <jam> dimitern: is it actually allowed to start with - or _
[11:38] <jam> ?
[11:38] <dimitern> jam, it is in fact
[11:39] <dimitern> jam, rvba just confirmed that
[11:40] <jam> dimitern: is there any reason not to be slightly more restrictive than them?
[11:40] <jam> I think avoiding opening "-" is probably a good thing
[11:40] <dimitern> jam, apart from another critical blocker from OIL
[11:40] <dimitern> can't think of one :)
[11:41] <dimitern> in case they now decide to have names like "-my_NET"
[11:41] <fwereade> dimitern, jam: so the core of the problem is that we use provider ids as network names
[11:42] <fwereade> dimitern, jam, which means we need to come up with a regexp that matches every possible valid provider network id
[11:42] <dimitern> fwereade, jam, yeah, that's the crux of it; but it's much harder to fix it properly
[11:42] <fwereade> dimitern, jam, but is still somehow useful
[11:42] <dimitern> fwereade, jam, also, fwiw this only applies to maas anyway now
[11:44] <fwereade> dimitern, jam: with that patch, can we still transform name<->tag safely?
[11:44] <fwereade> dimitern, jam: and can we depend on correctly munging globallKeys?
[11:44] <dimitern> fwereade, jam, yes - there are tests for that in fact, which didn't stop passing, and we don't allow /
[11:44] <jam> or # right?
[11:44] <dimitern> yeah
[12:04] <Mmike> jam: so, here is what I did: juju bootstrap; juju ensure-availability. Then I did 'juju status' until I had all three machines with "state-server-member-status: has-vote". Then I deployed some service (percona-cluster, with 3 units).
[12:05] <Mmike> Waited for that service to settle down, verified all is ok.
[12:05] <Mmike> After that I killed the machine 0 (as this is openstack, I did nova delete $instance_id). Did juju status after that, waited for like 2-3 minutes, and then juju status returned status with machine0 being down.
[12:05] <Mmike> Also, some percona-cluster units where shown as 'agent-state: down'.
[12:05] <jam> Mmike: 2-3 minutes sounds odd to me
[12:06] <jam> Mmike: one option is to use "juju status --verbose" (-v) which should have it report what its trying to do
[12:06] <jam> is it still 2-3 min per status?
[12:06] <jam> or is status fast now?
[12:07] <Mmike> Then I did juju ensure-availability, juju instantiated another machine. Waited for that one to have 'state-server-member-status: has-vote'. Then did: "juju destroy-machine 0", but juju complained about 'machine 0 being needed for the env'
[12:07] <Mmike> no, it is fast now
[12:07] <Mmike> just the first run after I killed machine 0 was slow.
[12:08] <Mmike> ok, now all of my percona-cluster units are up, and marked ok (no more 'agent-state: down').
[12:08] <Mmike> But I still can't remove machine 0.
[12:09] <jam> Mmike: can you pastebin the "juju status" output ?
[12:09] <Mmike> sure
[12:10] <Mmike> jam: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10924694/
[12:10] <Mmike> jam: I can paste whole termlog from the first bootstrap, if needed
[12:11] <jam> Mmike: so i *believe* that now that machine-0 has been removed from voting, you can do another "juju ensure-availability" and it will be removed as a state server entirely, and then you can "juju destroy-machine machine-0"
[12:12] * Mmike tries
[12:12] <jam> I think each transition needs another ensure-availability call. starts with has-vote, then goes to no-vote, then goes to no-longer-a-state-server
[12:13] <Mmike> jam: ack, confirmed.
[12:13] <Mmike> jam: excellent! :)
[12:13] <Mmike> jam: thank you very much
[12:13] <Mmike> just one more, though
[12:13] <Mmike> so let's say I had 3 state machines. One of them died. Then another died. Now mongodb on remaining unit is in readonly state.
[12:14] <Mmike> I don't have juju backup.
[12:14] <Mmike> I'm thinking, then, connecting to the remaining machine, and 'reseting' mongodb - forcing it to become primary again.
[12:14] <Mmike> Will that work? That is, will I be able to use juju afterwards?
[12:14] <Mmike> (Havent tried, just curious)
[12:15] <jam> Mmike: so if you manually poke the replicaset document in mongo
[12:15] <jam> you should be able to do anything you want :)
[12:15] <jam> just don't do it wrong.
[12:15] <jam> obviously with db surgery you can make anything work. I'm not 100% sure how much Juju would let you get away with, because it will likely try to write the replicaset document to match its own state
[12:16] <Mmike> well, obviously the 'right thing to do' is to have backups.
[12:17] <Mmike> But, there being only two kinds of people in the world... sooner or later I'll have to deal with 'we WILL be doing backups' kind of people :)
[12:17] <Mmike> jam: thnx for the inputs, will try breaking my env later again to verify if poking with mongo will bring it back to life
[12:18] <jam> Mmike: have you verified that Juju becomes completely unhappy with 2 machines down?
[12:18] <jam> It is *possible* that "juju ensure-availability" would rewrite things to try and get back into 3-man mode.
[12:18] <jam> but I can entirely believe that we didn't get there.
[12:18] <jam> And IIRC, we don't support "juju ensure-availability -n1" to get back out of HA mode
[12:19] <Mmike> jam: nop, tbh. But I know from previous mongodb experience that if two nodes go down the last remaining node is in read-only, as it has no quorum.
[12:19] <jam> Mmike: but being able to get a DB backup at that point seems *really useful*
[13:05] * perrito666 uses deployer for the first time ever
[14:02] <katco> natefinch: standup
[14:03] <aznashwan> natefinch: ping
[14:04] <natefinch> aznashwan: sup?
[14:13] <aznashwan> natefinch: sorros
[14:13] <aznashwan> natefinch: got distracted
[14:14] <aznashwan> natefinch: could give me an idiot's guide to using that perl script for syscalls on windows?
[14:15] <aznashwan> natefinch: (if you could exemplify on your npipe package what the result should be; that would be awesome)
[14:50] * perrito666 drops a bucket of debug messages onto deployer
[14:55] <natefinch> aznashwan: all I really did was look at the files in the syscall stdlib and copy what they did there. The zsyscall_* files give the command line to use, and show the input file, which contains the patterns that generate the syscalls in comments at the top of the file.
[14:55] <natefinch> aznashwan: I meant to write a blog post about how to do it back when I wrote npipe, but never got around to it. I should brush up on it and do so, it would be pretty useful, I think.
[14:59] <voidspace> dimitern: just FYI, I merged the tests as well
[14:59] <voidspace> dimitern: that was easier
[14:59] <voidspace> dimitern: I have a bunch of failing tests to fix now
[15:00] <voidspace> dimitern: not all obvious, but I'll work through them
[15:01] <dimitern> voidspace, sweet!
[15:05] <voidspace> dimitern: hey, we have a test "TestNewCloudInitConfigNoFeatureFlag"
[15:05] <voidspace> dimitern: testing maas config generation
[15:05] <voidspace> https://github.com/juju/juju/compare/master...voidspace:addressable-featureflag
[15:05] <mattyw> jam, are you around this week?
[15:05] <voidspace> (the first s.SetFeatureFlags() in that branch is spurious I assume - and I've removed it locally)
[15:06] <voidspace> dimitern: the intent of the test seems to be to test we get the same config with feature flag on and off
[15:06] <voidspace> dimitern: but we don't
[15:06] <voidspace> dimitern: we get the juju-br0 stuff when the flag is off
[15:06] <jam> mattyw: I'm around
[15:06] <voidspace> dimitern: so the test seems flawed (and is failing for this reason)
[15:06] <jam> though its EOD for me now
[15:07] <mgz_> dimitern: I failed to find you in person, but can I have a review please? :)
[15:07] <mgz_> dimitern: https://github.com/go-goose/goose/pull/8/files
[15:08] <mup> Bug #1449613 was opened: service/windows is missing unit tests. <juju-core:New> <juju-core 1.23:New> <juju-core 1.24:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449613>
[15:20] <mgz_> katco: can I wave bug 1447841 at you?
[15:20] <mup> Bug #1447841: eu-central-1 AWS region V4 signing required and not supported <ec2-provider> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447841>
[15:24] <katco> mgz_: sure tal
[15:25] <katco> mgz_: should be an easy fix
[15:27] <natefinch> perrito666: review please? http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1504/
[15:32] <mup> Bug #1449617 was opened: service.Service implementations are missing functional tests. <juju-core:New> <juju-core 1.23:New> <juju-core 1.24:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449617>
[15:33] <perrito666> natefinch: reviewed, just one issue
[15:35] <dimitern> vo
[15:35] <katco> mgz_: very small review for that bug: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1505/
[15:35] <dimitern> voidspace, hey
[15:36] <mgz_> pants, we have in fact not yet switched to gopkg.in goose yet
[15:37] <dimitern> voidspace, why is that happening can be gnarlly - check basically jujuconnsuite's setupsuite and setuptest - there might be something overriding the set FF
[15:38] <mgz_> katco: change lgtm - no tests need updating? also, s3 auth works with the same auth object as ec2 okay?
[15:38] <mgz_> I'm confident our testing will fail fast if anything is wrong
[15:39] <katco> mgz_: yeah s3 defaults to v4, we deprecated v2 signing for s3
[15:39] <katco> mgz_: i haven't run tests, let me do that rq for just the ec2 provider package
[15:40] <katco> mgz_: those tests pass. i'll try and land and see what happens
[15:43] <alexisb> ericsnow, as always thank you!
[15:44] <mup> Bug #1449633 was opened: Cannot terminate/remove broken state server after ensure-availability <cts> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449633>
[15:46] <mgz_> should we be sorting external import alphanum-wise? what can I use to do that?
[15:47] <mgz_> hm, seems not, I have github.com and gopkg.in both ways round
[15:49] <natefinch> mgz_: go fmt will alphabetize
[15:50] <natefinch> mgz_: it sorts each section independently (where a section is delimited by blank lines)
[15:55] <natefinch> perrito666: thanks
[15:55] <perrito666> np
[15:56] <mup> Bug #1449633 changed: Cannot terminate/remove broken state server after ensure-availability <cts> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449633>
[15:58] <mgz_> natefinch: yeah, I was wondering about sorting the blocks after that - which we seem not to do
[16:01] <natefinch> mgz_: go fmt definitely sorts all the blocks... try it out here: http://play.golang.org/p/lb4Nc0Nz2B the blocks are intentionally out of order to start
[16:02] <mup> Bug #1449633 was opened: Cannot terminate/remove broken state server after ensure-availability <cts> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449633>
[16:02] <katco> perrito666: hey do you need any help with 1441826?
[16:03] <perrito666> katco: I think I just nailed it :)
[16:04] <katco> perrito666: course you did... bc you're AWESOME ;p
[16:04] <natefinch> perrito666: nice
[16:04] <perrito666> I am writing the patch now to see if it works, but apparently its a shim missing in the multiwatcher status
[16:16] <mgz_> ocr: can I request another review on http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1473/
[16:17] <mgz_> I needed to bump goose version (and location) to add a test)
[16:21] <perrito666> mm, that is a nasty thing to read on reviewboard
[16:22] <mgz_> perrito666: blame Ian
[16:22] <perrito666> ok
[16:22] <perrito666> git blame ian
[16:22] <mgz_> it was a nice clean change till I had to update all the imports
[16:23] * perrito666 impatiently awaits for his stream to update
[16:23] * perrito666 reads in github and gets a pill for the headache
[16:24] <mgz_> perrito666: looking at each commit in turn may be more informative
[16:25] <perrito666> mgz_: do you arrange your tests in lexicographic order?
[16:29] <mgz_> perrito666: I arrange them in random walk order
[16:31] <perrito666> mgz_: brb, will review upon return, I promise
[16:32] <mgz_> perrito666: no problem
[16:32] <mgz_> I'm off for now at least
[16:34] <aznashwan> natefinch: sorry; got carried away again...
[16:34] <natefinch> aznashwan: did you see my prior responses?
[16:35] <aznashwan> natefinch: figured it out; it's quite handy
[16:35] <aznashwan> natefinch: yes I did
[16:35] <natefinch> aznashwan: ahh cool. Yeah. it's nice.
[16:35] <aznashwan> natefinch: I used the go one in the syscall package
[16:35] <aznashwan> natefinch: they should really raise awareness for it
[16:36] <natefinch> aznashwan: yeah, I remembered they added a go version finally... after I had to struggle with installing perl on windows ;)
[16:36] <aznashwan> natefinch: oh; it's yours?
[16:36] <aznashwan> natefinch: Windows salutes you :D
[16:37] <natefinch> aznashwan: no no... I was sorely tempted to port it, but never found the time. Not sure who did, but not me :)
[16:39] <aznashwan> natefinch: works great; but there was a lot a lot of guesswork involved in figuring out how to use it for procs' that weren't in kernel32
[19:10] <katco> perrito666: how is the bug coming?
[19:11] <perrito666> katco: fixed It looks, fixing the tests now
[19:11] <katco> perrito666: awesome :)
[19:14] <perrito666> mmpf I am pretty sure network manager indicator has less functions than before :( I dont seem to be able to priorize my connections
[19:59] <perrito666> talk about useful test failure errors
[19:59] <perrito666> Error: entity mismatch; got len 1; want 1
[20:05] <natefinch> perrito666: heh wow
[20:09] <katco> natefinch: hey is https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1446871 landed yet?
[20:09] <mup> Bug #1446871: Unit hooks fail on windows if PATH is uppercase <ci> <hooks> <windows> <juju-core:In Progress by natefinch> <juju-core 1.24:In Progress by natefinch> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446871>
[20:11] <natefinch> katco: I hadn't thought it was targetted at 1.24-alpha1, so I just have a PR up against master, which is blocked... but I could easily put it on 1.24 instead
[20:11] <natefinch> katco: so, no :)
[20:12] <katco> Nate looks like it's just targeted against 1.24
[20:12] <katco> natefinch: mgz was working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/1.24/+bug/1441826 but it's past his EoD... we're blocked until that is complete
[20:12] <mup> Bug #1441826: deployer and quickstart are broken in 1.24-alpha1 <api> <blocker> <ci> <deployer> <quickstart> <regression> <juju-ci-tools:Triaged> <juju-core:Triaged by hduran-8> <juju-core 1.24:In Progress by hduran-8> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441826>
[20:13] <katco> natefinch: looks like you might have had some insight there, so if you are blocked, it would be a good thing to look into
[20:13] <natefinch> katco: I can certainly look at that one, though I thought perrito666 had that one handled
[20:14] <katco> natefinch: i thought he was looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1441826?
[20:14] <mup> Bug #1441826: deployer and quickstart are broken in 1.24-alpha1 <api> <blocker> <ci> <deployer> <quickstart> <regression> <juju-ci-tools:Triaged> <juju-core:Triaged by hduran-8> <juju-core 1.24:In Progress by hduran-8> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441826>
[20:14] <katco> gah... stupid copy/paste mistake
[20:14] <perrito666> katco: you have a problem with your pastebin?
[20:14] <katco> haha
[20:14] <perrito666> you sound just like the error I pasted a moment ago
[20:14] <katco> natefinch: i meant https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1440940
[20:14] <mup> Bug #1440940: xml/marshal.go:10:2: cannot find package "encoding" <blocker> <ci> <regression> <test-failure> <juju-core:In Progress by gz> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <juju-release-tools:In Progress by gz> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1440940>
[20:14] <natefinch> oh yeah that one
[20:14] <katco> natefinch: perrito666 is definitely working the other one
[20:15] <katco> natefinch: but mgz thought he had a fix, but apparently not
[20:15] <natefinch> katco: I'll look through what has been posted there since I last looked at the bug.
[20:15] <katco> natefinch: cool ty
[20:15] <katco> wwitzel3: are you blocked on 1326091?
[20:20] <natefinch> sinzui: you around?
[20:20] <sinzui> I am
[20:20] <natefinch> in the above bug about encoding, one of your recent messages contains a typo that makes it hard for me to understand: "The release tarfile but contain the encoding src or pkg, or we avoid using github.com/juju/govmomi/vim25/xml."
[20:21] <sinzui> natefinch, *must*
[20:21] <natefinch> sinzui: ahh, ok, I couldn't figure out what it was supposed to be
[20:22] <sinzui> natefinch, mgz advised that including the encoding package in the source tree would ensure gccgo found the package. He reported it was fixed but is not. The packages don't build and I don't see the package, so I don't know what mgz changed to lead him to believe the issue was fixed
[20:22] <sinzui> damn, too many uses of the word packages
[20:23] <sinzui> We cannot make debs, and I don't see "encoding" in src/
[20:25] <natefinch> sinzui: it seems odd to me that we package up the standard library in our tarfile. shouldn't the standard library just be installed on the target machine, and we just tar-up what's outside the stdlib? I presume ubuntu doesn't build other languages by including the stdlib in the tar we give the builders.
[20:26] <natefinch> (and I'm using a very broad version of "installed" .... I don't actually care how it arrives on disk)
[20:27] <sinzui> natefinch, it seem odd to me we would fork xml and use it without checking it worked on all arcs
[20:27] <sinzui> regardless, *we* are obligated to deliver a tarball that Ubuntu and Lp can build ppc64el debs. so need to provide a version of encoding that work with that xml package
[20:29] <natefinch> sinzui: I guess my question would be... why isn't the entire go std library on the builder? Is it because there's no golang package we can apt-get install for PPC64el that we don't do it that way?
[20:30] <sinzui> natefinch, Ubuntu/debian uses shared lib and they are already built and distributed for Juju to link too
[20:30] <sinzui> natefinch, juju is *not* 100% static for ppc. it uses golib5
[20:30] <natefinch> sinzui: I don't know what that is, unfortunately.
[20:31] <sinzui> natefinch, a lib that doesn't have encoding in it, at least, not by that name
[20:32] <natefinch> sinzui: where do we get golib from? google isn't being very helpful for me there
[20:32] <sinzui> well I can see there is an encoding, but it doesn't match what the xml package wants :(
[20:32] <sinzui> natefinch, I think you are taking the wrong path here
[20:33] <sinzui> natefinch, We will not release any 1.24 version in the next month if we are trying to bet debian/ubuntu to change packages. mgz's solution is to include just what is needed to satisfy debian packaging rules
[20:34] <natefinch> sinzui: we're getting an error that should be impossible. The most likely reason is because we're doing things in weird ways to satisfy people's ideas of the way things should be built. I'm just trying to figure out how this builder differs from what happens when I run gccgo.
[20:34] <natefinch> sinzui: if I can't look at golib, I can't figure out why its encoding is different
[20:34] <natefinch> sinzui: or how to fix it
[20:35] <natefinch> (it/us/whatever)
[20:36] <sinzui> natefinch, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gccgo-go
[20:37] <sinzui> natefinch, I think trusty used http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/gccgo-go/trusty-proposed/files
[20:38] <sinzui> natefinch, but you are entering into packaging and linking in debian/gccgo which is not like golang
[20:40] <natefinch> sinzui: so, I do see the encoding directory and encoding.go under src/pkg: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/gccgo-go/trusty-proposed/files/head:/src/pkg/encoding/
[20:41] <sinzui> natefinch, yes, we established that a few weeks ago
[20:43] <sinzui> natefinch, the recent change here is that go build to make packages was working, now it doesn't So the hack to create a goroot on the test machines wont work in the clean-room env used by builders
[20:50] <natefinch> sinzui: I'm more than willing to help, and I'm sorry if I get frustrated. There's a lot of the packaging part, especially for gccgo, that I still don't know well, so trying to figure out why something is going wrong is difficult without preloading a lot of knowledge.
[20:50] <katco> natefinch: sinzui: it seems extraordinarily hazardous to me that we would patch the go stdlib to include an entire package
[20:50] <katco> natefinch: sinzui: seems like we could get unexpected behavior quite easily, doesn't it?
[20:51] <natefinch> katco: we forked the xml package. I would not say we were patching the std lib at all. we copied the xml package to github.com/juju/xml and reference it as a normal 3rd party package
[20:51] <natefinch> katco: the problem seems to be that we're using any package that itself depends on the encoding package.
[20:51] <katco> natefinch: that doesn't have a dependency graph that spiders out into other parts of the go stdlib?
[20:52] <natefinch> katco: it should be exactly the same as if we just imported the xml package
[20:52] <sinzui> natefinch, I found 3 changes between the the time we could make packages and when we couldn't mgz made two of them https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1440940/comments/15
[20:52] <mup> Bug #1440940: xml/marshal.go:10:2: cannot find package "encoding" <blocker> <ci> <regression> <test-failure> <juju-core:In Progress by gz> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <juju-release-tools:In Progress by gz> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1440940>
[20:53] <katco> natefinch: well, what i'm getting at is we're using version X of the xml package with version Y of the rest of the go stdlib
[20:53] <katco> natefinch: and i'm wondering if that might introduce unintended consequences
[20:54] <natefinch> katco: it shouldn't matter, because the only code using our XML package is code we specifically wrote to use it. It should either compile on all platforms or not.
[20:54] <katco> natefinch: compilation =/= proof of correctness
[20:54] <natefinch> katco: but if the problem is a compilation error....
[20:54] <katco> natefinch: this particular problem; i'm questioning the larger strategy
[20:55] <sinzui> natefinch, the xml package *did* compile a week ago. When only tests were broken I assumed it was test-double nonsense from gccgo
[20:55] <natefinch> katco: it's really conceptually no different than forking any other package and using it instead of the original. the stdlib isn't special, it's just normal go code.
[20:56] <katco> natefinch: correct, but the version of the xml package we've imported was written to depend on perhaps a different version of the go stdlib
[20:56] <katco> natefinch: what i'm getting at is: we're mucking with dependencies in a very non sustainable way
[20:57] <natefinch> katco: there's no version of the stdlib that doesn't have the encoding package, though
[20:57] <natefinch> katco: also, the stdlib is guaranteed backwards compatible to go1.0 and they're very strict about it
[20:58] <natefinch> I think looking at sinzui's list of commits that might have broken it is a good way to tackle the problem. IN theory, something should stand out.
[20:58] <katco> natefinch: from a signature perspective... not implementation
[20:58] <katco> natefinch: this line of questioning is probably irrelevant at this point, i'll drop it
[20:59] <natefinch> sinzui: is it possible to re-run the last test that worked? To rule out environmental / process changes?
[20:59] <katco> natefinch: but wow will this get messy fast
[21:00] <natefinch> sinzui, katco: unfortunately, I'm at EOD. I may be able to get online significantly later (9pm-ish eastern), but may not, depending on the state of my kids.
[21:00] <katco> natefinch: hope everyone feels better, and hope the appt. went well today
[21:00] <natefinch> I think it's worth going through the code changes to look for things that stand out ,and also doing a double check to make sure that the last run that worked still works.
[21:00] <natefinch> katco: thanks
[21:01] <sinzui> natefinch, not in CI since the job is publishing. But in this case, this is the actual packaging rules. anyone can take the release tarball, make a source package from the packaging branch, and then build it (on ppc
[21:01] <sinzui> )
[21:02] <sinzui> natefinch, note that building happens in fakeroot, so changes cannot just happen
[21:02] <natefinch> *nod*
[21:02] <natefinch> ok, gotta run, sorry. Will try to be back on later. I'll take a look at the changelists and possibly the tarballs themselves to see if I can figure out what's going on.
[21:04] <natefinch> oh, one hack to fix it might just be to do an unnecessary import "encoding" from somewhere under github.com/juju/juju so we force that it gets included in the tarball
[21:23] <wwitzel3> katco: no, it isn't blocked
[21:24] <katco> wwitzel3: k ty
[21:36] <menn0> wallyworld: ping?
[22:48] <mup> Bug #1449277 changed: juju environment create fails on aws: invalid config <juju-core:Invalid by waigani> <juju-core 1.24:Invalid by waigani> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449277>
[22:57] <perrito666> so http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1508/ and http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1509/ Fix lp1441826 in 1.24 and master respectively, who would be so kind? wallyworld ?
[22:57] <perrito666> katco: ?
[22:57] <perrito666> ill go get some dinner and then come back
[23:23] <ericsnow> could I get a review on http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1510/?
[23:23] <ericsnow> it's the fix we talked about on the call (build constraints for vsphere provider)
[23:28] <ericsnow> it should be super easy to review
[23:29] <perrito666> famous last words
[23:41] <wallyworld> ericsnow: looks like there's additional unrelated changes in that diff
[23:42] <ericsnow> wallyworld: ah, that's just RB doing its thing (I'll fix)
[23:43] <ericsnow> fixed
[23:44] <wallyworld> looking again
[23:44] <wallyworld> ericsnow: what does the newly added init_gccgo do?
[23:45] <ericsnow> wallyworld: makes it so I don't have to touch provider/all/all.go :)
[23:46] <ericsnow> wallyworld: (allows import of "github.com/juju/juju/provider/vsphere")
[23:46] <ericsnow> wallyworld: I'll add a note to that effect
[23:56] <ericsnow> wallyworld: good to go? (I'm going AFK in a minute)
[23:57] <wallyworld> ericsnow: bah, i got disconnected again, i asked a quesion - what does the newly added init_gccgo do?
[23:58] <ericsnow> wallyworld: yep, and I responded :) I've added a comment explaining (allows imports of the package to continue to work)
[23:58] <wallyworld> sorry, didn't see
[23:58] <ericsnow> np :)
[23:59] <wallyworld> ericsnow: lgtm, ty
[23:59] <ericsnow> wallyworld: thanks
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[03:56] <guideX> how does my telecom co go about selling ubuntu phones?
[06:29] <messenjah> good morning world
[06:32] <guideX> good morning
[06:48] <dholbach> good morning
[08:30] <dednick> tedg: can you point me to the prompt splashscreen bug
[08:43] <cylonmath> guys is there any way to upload custom ringtones to the phone??
[08:53] <Saviq> tvoss, can you point me to media-hub logs?
[08:53] <Guest27706> hello, i'm trying install ubuntu touch to sony xperia t device. There is on page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices that it is possible and that device name is mint. But ro.product.device=LT30p and when trying command "ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=devel --bootstrap", it returns that there is no appropriate image. Is there way to specify that i want to use mint image? Thanks
[08:55] <Saviq> Guest27706, it's not a community-supported device, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/mint for install instructions etc.
[08:58] <Guest27706> Saviq: ok, thank You.
[09:05] <Saviq> tvoss, unping, found them
[09:07] <tedg> dednick, bug 1352251
[09:08] <tedg> dednick, also bug 1398888
[09:10] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Cubicle Day! :-D
[09:20] <tvoss> Saviq, ack, anything else I can help with?
[13:20] <speck84> Is there soemone have a freetime to help me make it works the ubuntu sdk?
[13:21] <speck84> Nothing appire on my phone
[13:53] <speck84> Can someone help troubleshoot why my Ubuntu Touch phone doesn't do anything with laptop?
[13:53] <speck84> I test applicatoin doesn't running eighter
[13:59] <speck84> Does anyone got error massege like this?
[13:59] <speck84> Warnings while parsing QML type information of /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/unity8/qml/Dash:
[13:59] <speck84> Failed to parse '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/unity8/qml/Dash/Dash.qmltypes'.
[13:59] <speck84> Error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/unity8/qml/Dash/Dash.qmltypes:102:19: Expected string literal to contain 'Package/Name major.minor' or 'Name major.minor'.
[13:59] <speck84> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/unity8/qml/Dash/Dash.qmltypes:103:36: Expected array literal with only number literal members.
[14:55] <bpierre> Hi, do you know how to uninstall a Click package installed with `pkcon install-local`?
[14:56] <mcphail> bpierre: i think you can uninstall in the same way you uninstall an app store package
[14:56] <bpierre> Yes it works if I do that, but I would like to do it from the CLI
[14:57] <davidcalle> bpierre, sudo click unregister <package>
[14:57] <bpierre> And `pkcon remove mypackagename` doesn’t work, nor `pkcon remove ./my-package-filename`
[14:58] <bpierre> Thanks davidcalle, it works!
[14:58] <davidcalle> bpierre, yw :)
[16:00] <peat-psuwit> rsalveti: Ping
[16:32] <Verc> Hi! How to update my Nexus 4 to the Ubuntu 15.04?
[16:48] <peat-psuwit> Verc: Enable developer mode in system settings > about the phone
[16:48] <Verc> i've tried to flash "stable" channel but it's still 14.10 ;/
[16:49] <Verc> r18
[16:49] <peat-psuwit> Verc: 14.10 doesn't land to stable yet.
[16:49] <Verc> 14.10 or 15.04?
[16:50] <peat-psuwit> Verc: Opps. I mean 15.04
[16:50] <peat-psuwit> Verc: Use vivid channel or, if you're on the bleeding-edge, vivid-proposed.
[16:51] <Verc> CHANNEL=vivid?
[16:53] <peat-psuwit> Verc: Yes.
[16:53] <Verc> mtp://[usb:003,006]/Nexus%204/Pictures/com.ubuntu.camera/image20150428_080927237.jpg mtp://[usb:003,006]/Nexus%204/Pictures/com.ubuntu.camera/image20150428_083057384.jpg mtp://[usb:003,006]/Nexus%204/Pictures/com.ubuntu.camera/image20150428_085342139.jpg mtp://[usb:003,006]/Nexus%204/Pictures/com.ubuntu.camera/image20150428_085418878.jpg mtp://[usb:003,006]/Nexus%204/Pictures/com.ubuntu.camera/image20150428_092259225.jpg mtp://[u
[16:54] <Verc> sorry
[16:54] <Verc> not this
[16:54] <Verc> Channel vivid not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com
[16:54] <peat-psuwit> Verc: Opps. My fault again. Should be "ubuntu-touch/vivid".
[16:55] <Verc> yep
[16:55] <Verc> it works!
[16:56] <peat-psuwit> Verc: I'm not so sure how fresh is "ubuntu-touch/vivid". If you get very old image, try "ubuntu-touch/vivid-proposed"
[16:57] <Verc> ok :)
[16:57] <Verc> thanks :)
[16:58] <kissiel> Mirv, Hiya! Got a second?
[17:04] <guideX> how does my telecom co go about selling ubuntu phones?
[17:05] <peat-psuwit> Anyone using supported device please tell me, when you enable bluetooth on the device and use another device to find Ubuntu touch device, if the device is seen as a phone?
[17:07] <popey> peat-psuwit: no, it shows as a computer
[17:08] * mcphail wonders if that is why his car can't see his phone
[17:09] <peat-psuwit> popey: Ok, then it's not unexpected. I tough it's problem on my port.
[17:10] * peat-psuwit wonders if there's the bug report.
[17:16] <mcphail> do any of the channels have debugging symbols installed by default?
[17:18] <ogra_> nope
[17:18] <mcphail> That's a shame. Is it possible to have one?
[17:18] <ogra_> if you would install all ddebs you wouldnt have enough diskspace i fear :)
[17:18] <mcphail> ogra_: libc and the qt libs would be nice, though
[17:19] <mcphail> ogra_: would give unbroken backtraces
[17:19] <ogra_> and then someone hits a bug in another lib and wants his ddebs too ... and the next one etc etc ...
[17:19] <ogra_> the reason we allow to make the images writable is that you can then install ddebs
[17:19] <mcphail> ogra_: surely that would be fine for a development channel?
[17:20] <ogra_> not really ... even developers dont like gigabyte big images
[17:20] <ogra_> just install the ddebs you need after making it writable
[17:20] <mcphail> ddeb?
[17:22] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash?highlight=%28ddebs%29#Non-built-in_debug_symbol_packages_.28.2A-dbgsym.29
[17:26] <mcphail> ogra_: that still requires either using apt-get on the device or downloading on the computer and dpkg -i, though, doesn't it?
[17:27] <ogra_> mcphail, yes
[17:27] <mcphail> ogra_: and how far can you go without breaking updates etc?
[17:27] <ogra_> having all ddebs in the image would make you end up with a 5-10G image i guess
[17:27] <ogra_> you shouldnt do that on a production device at all
[17:28] <mcphail> ogra_: so no debugging for me :(
[17:28] <ogra_> iirc there are ways to re-process the core dumps from errors.u.c
[17:28] <ogra_> on a device with the debug symbols added... dont ask me how though :)
[17:29] <mcphail> ogra_: I saw a steam youtube video once about running a symbols server. Would it be possible to run a symbols server on the development computer being used to remote debug?
[17:29] <mcphail> (I didn't really understand the process)
[17:29] <ogra_> thats beyond my knnowledge ... you should ask bdmurray (in #ubuntu-devel) or pitti
[17:30] <mcphail> ok - will do a bit of reading and ask later. Thanks
[17:31] * mcphail thinks gdbserver should be installed by default, even if the symbols aren;t
[17:57] <frankie_> hey guys
[17:58] <frankie_> are there any plans to port utouch to nexus 9?
[17:58] <frankie_> couldn't find anything online, and the good keyboard integration makes it the perfect device imo
[18:55] <ogra_> mpt, do we have a UI for VPN laid out already ?
[19:08] <lila-link> hi
[19:21] <mhall119> ChickenCutlass: can you register as attending on summit.ubuntu.com so I can make you a host for your session?
[19:22] <ChickenCutlass> mhall119, ok
[19:22] <mhall119> pmcgowan: ^^ you too please
[19:23] <mhall119> and bfiller
[19:24] <mhall119> and ogra_
[19:24] <ogra_> bah ... the auto-registration we had the last years made me lazy :P
[19:24] <mhall119> and finally rsalveti
[19:25] <mhall119> ogra_: we never had auto-registration
[19:25] <mhall119> you had to either register in launchpad or in summit, but it was always manual
[19:25] <ogra_> then i just had good managers that did it for me in the past i guess :)
[19:25] <mhall119> that could have been
[19:26] <nik90> jhodapp: ping
[19:26] <jhodapp> nik90, pong
[19:27] <nik90> jhodapp: hey, I just noticed that when podbird is running in the background playing a online stream, if you open a number of apps such that you hit the memory limit where podbird is killed by the system, the playback also stops..Shouldn't media-hub prevent that?
[19:28] <jhodapp> nik90, nope, when the client application goes away so does the media-hub playback session
[19:28] <jhodapp> nik90, we may do what you said in the future after we get some additional lifecycle additions into UT
[19:28] <nik90> jhodapp: hmm..so there is never a way to ensure that the playback continues regardless of the state of the system.
[19:29] <tenleftfingers> nik90: I've noticed that problem. Playback will eventually stop when PodBird is in the background. Also, it doesn't resume playback from the right place (and sometimes it starts from the beginning again): https://bugs.launchpad.net/podbird/+bug/1449719
[19:29] <jhodapp> nik90, not at present, no
[19:29] <nik90> tenleftfingers: yes, I was able to confirm that after seeing your bug report and came here looking for the answer
[19:30] <cwayne_> tenleftfingers, ping
[19:30] <nik90> jhodapp: ok. I will add media-hub to that bug report .. is there any project that tracks the lifecycle rules that I shoudl mark as affected?
[19:31] <tenleftfingers> cwayne_: hi
[19:31] <cwayne_> tenleftfingers, hiya, was just looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/today-scope/+bug/1446766 again, wondering if it goes away if you click 'skip and setup later'
[19:32] <tenleftfingers> cwayne_: let me check
[19:32] <jhodapp> nik90, add qtmir
[19:32] <popey> and assign it to tvoss :)
[19:32] <nik90> jhodapp: thnx
[19:32] <jhodapp> nik90, np
[19:32] <nik90> popey: I dont have permissions to do so ;)
[19:32] <ahayzen> jhodapp, nik90, i assume we'll need this when the music-app starts using the background playlists and the lifecycle exception has gone? ;)
[19:33] <tenleftfingers> cwayne_: I believe so. But I had the impression I was missing info on my Today scope then. In fact, I don't see anything google-related on it even now.
[19:33] <nik90> ahayzen: definitely
[19:33] <popey> well, i think it's reasonable that when the client app goes away, media stops
[19:33] <popey> how else will you stop the media otherwise?
[19:33] <nik90> ahayzen: I guess podbird is becoming your testbed
[19:33] <jhodapp> ahayzen, we don't *need* it then, but yes it would naturally be related
[19:33] <nik90> popey: well when the user returns to the app, they stop it
[19:33] <ahayzen> hang on i thought you meant when it was OOM'd...
[19:33] * ahayzen reads again
[19:33] <cwayne_> tenleftfingers, right, so we may need to change that a bit, google can be used to sync your calendar events, which would show up in the events section
[19:34] <nik90> ahayzen: we are indeed discussing when it gets OOM'd
[19:34] <jhodapp> or MPRIS control from indicator-sound
[19:34] <popey> ok, and what if I think "this app is rubbish, it died" and uninstall it
[19:34] <popey> the audio is still playing from an app that's removed
[19:34] <ahayzen> popey, so if i start playing music...browse the web browser open loads of tabs...music gets OOM'd audio should stop?!
[19:34] <tenleftfingers> cwayne_: Ah, yes. The events. I'm pretty sure that you're right about it being dismissable.
[19:34] <ahayzen> popey, surely when you go back to the app from the spread it would be restored?
[19:34] <nik90> popey: well would you uninstall an app that is currently playing music?
[19:35] <popey> I would uninstall an app I thought was bad, sure
[19:35] <cwayne_> tenleftfingers, yeah, it should be
[19:35] <cwayne_> we need to do that better I think
[19:35] <nik90> the least I would expect is a user to close the app from the spread before prorceeding to uninstall it :P
[19:35] <popey> especially if I saw that the app had died and it was still playing
[19:35] <nik90> but yeah there are some edge cases like you mention
[19:35] <cwayne_> but anyway, I'm going to mark that specific bug invalid since dismissing it goes away
[19:35] <popey> I might thing "wow, this is terrible, I can still hear it even after it died, get rid!"
[19:35] <cwayne_> tenleftfingers, but thank you for logging it!
[19:35] <ahayzen> closing from the spread should stop the audio...but the app being OOM'd should not?
[19:35] <tenleftfingers> cwayne_: Sure, np. Thank you!
[19:35] * popey is somewhat playing devils advocate
[19:35] <popey> but we have enough of those so I'll stop now
[19:36] <nik90> ahayzen: well the thing is *all apps* get OOM'd and there is nothing to prevent it.
[19:36] <jhodapp> lol
[19:36] <ahayzen> nik90, music doesn't at the moment hehe ;)
[19:36] <nik90> right it kind of sucks for app devs that their music apps gets killed
[19:36] <nik90> ahayzen: well not for too long
[19:36] <nik90> :P
[19:36] <ahayzen> but yeah if the app is in the spread the audio stream should keep going then if it is killed it should be stopped..simple
[19:37] <ahayzen> jhodapp, is the plan to allow other apps to have their controls in the sound-indicator as well... eg podbird?
[19:37] <jhodapp> ahayzen, no, one global control...not like the desktop
[19:37] <tenleftfingers> ahayzen: amen. If the app stops playing when it's not in the foreground then it's pretty useless to the user given how productive they can be on this particular OS.
[19:38] <ahayzen> interesting... assuming you can only have 1 thing playing at a time then
[19:38] <ahayzen> tenleftfingers, exactly, when on the bus i have music in the background then i read emails/browser web/social media etc
[19:38] <nik90> ahayzen: well that is true though right? only one thing can play at a time..
[19:39] <jhodapp> ahayzen, yes indeed
[19:39] <ahayzen> nik90, yeah, could be fun when you have two apps open and you press pause...then play etc lol
[19:39] <Elleo> popey: under OOM circumstances the user shouldn't think the app has died, since under with the correct implementation the app should restore to its pre-killed state (and still appears in the app switcher all this time)
[19:39] <jhodapp> ahayzen, but I don't know all of the details yet, design is finishing up that UX plan
[19:39] <ahayzen> jhodapp, understood
[19:39] <Elleo> -under*
[19:40] <nik90> popey: ha there's your answer :)
[19:40] <ahayzen> yeah what Elleo said :) therefore the audio should keep going even under OOM
[19:40] <nik90> popey: in fact we have a branch where we use the SDK's statesaver to restore podbird state to what it was before it was OOM'd
[19:40] <bfiller> mhall119: done
[19:40] <popey> true
[19:41] <mhall119> thanks bfiller
[19:41] <ahayzen> nik90, you just saving the currenttab with the statesaver?
[19:42] * ahayzen has a branch for music that stores the whole stack so it is restorable, even after an app restart
[19:42] <nik90> ahayzen: for now yes...I am planning on other stuff like playback state to ensure that the bottom bar gets shown appropriately when it returns
[19:42] <nik90> ahayzen: do you store anything else?
[19:42] <ahayzen> we are just deciding if you would want you whole stack restored after an app restart
[19:43] <ahayzen> nik90, well i've done it in the Settings API not statesaver
[19:43] <nik90> ahayzen: why? I thought the SDK statesaver was built for this very purpose
[19:43] <ahayzen> nik90, playground here :) http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ahayzen/music-app/refactor-store-full-tab-path/revision/852
[19:43] <Elleo> \
[19:43] <ahayzen> nik90, well i was thinking about restoring it even after the app has restarted
[19:43] <Elleo> oops
[19:43] <nik90> ahayzen: also statesavers comes into effect *only* when the app is OOM'd
[19:43] <nik90> ahayzen: ah ok
[19:43] <ahayzen> nik90, just to play about .. not sure if to go for it yet still playing about
[19:44] <nik90> ahayzen: well if you want the state restoration even after a normal exit, then settings api is the way to go. I guess there is a design decision involved then
[19:45] <ahayzen> nik90, yeah exactly
[21:28] <jhodapp> popey, ping
[21:28] <popey> jhodapp: pong
[21:28] <jhodapp> popey, can you give silo 25 a quick fix for this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtubuntu-media/+bug/1438115
[21:29] <popey> hmmm
[21:29] <jhodapp> popey, on arale
[21:29] <popey> jhodapp: how do I install that?
[21:30] <jhodapp> popey, citrain device-upgrade 25 <device_passphrase> ubuntu
[21:32] <popey> ok
[21:35] <popey> jhodapp: yup, fixed
[21:36] <jhodapp> popey, yay awesome
[21:36] <jhodapp> thanks!
[21:36] <popey> np
[21:36] <popey> Thank you!
[21:36] <popey> ahayzen: ^
[21:36] <ahayzen> popey \o/ yey thanks for the quick fix jhodapp :D
[21:39] <jhodapp> np
[21:39] <jhodapp> it was a good bug to get fixed, would have shown up in other places
[22:05] <nik90> hmm this just happened https://imgur.com/WnwPa5v and I am scarred to use UT as my daily phone a bit
[22:09] <dexteruk> Hi Everyone, just getting to know ubuntu-touch, there seems to be a lot of android stuff boot-loaders, browser etc in here, or have i got it wrong
[22:13] <dexteruk> I have just got the bq Ubuntu Phone, its really want to get to know the OS more, for example how are the drivers loaded as i see nothing in lsmod
[22:18] <Elleo> jdstrand: heya; from the perspective of apps accessing the SD card is there any reason why we apps couldn't have confined access to <SD_Card>/<app_id>? It'd be a massive benefit for apps like podbird or cutespotify, where they download lots of data for use internally to be able to save them direct to the SD card without needing special permissions
[22:19] <dexteruk> why webkit not gecko?
[22:19] <Elleo> -we*
[22:19] <Elleo> dexteruk: the browser uses oxide, which is our own chromium based rendering library
[22:20] <Elleo> dexteruk: and the android stuff is purely for device drivers
[22:20] <Elleo> dexteruk: they get loaded within an LXC container, but I don't know much in the way of details beyond that
[22:22] <dexteruk> Because to be honest im gettting really feed up with big business saying what people can and cannot do, i got the ubuntu phone because i want to have a say... I dont want to be told that videos cannot be played on mobile devices, or 3G dongles wont work in your tablet
[22:23] <dexteruk> Surely we should have control over what the outside world sees from us
[22:24] <dexteruk> if i want to be seen as a mobile device i will goto the mobile version of the site
[22:29] <dexteruk> So please any developers out there, please make ubuntu touch people centric, give us control, let us decide what we share with the outside world
[22:33] <alesage> ahayzen, ping, have a music app weirdness to report, referred by jhodapp
[22:33] <ahayzen> alesage, o/ define weirdness ;)
[22:33] <dexteruk> Elleo: Thanks for the info, sorry for the rant just a little pissed with Android and generally anything to do with big business, i love anything open source its the only way forward
[22:34] <alesage> ahayzen, song view, I seem to have a poisoned track which when tapped opens player-view but won't play, UI appears frozen briefly, later 'back' works, repeat
[22:35] <alesage> ahayzen, unfortunately it'd be hard to reproduce *all* of my actions leading to this point but I can get logs, etc.
[22:35] <ahayzen> alesage, sounds magical :) what format is the file?
[22:36] <alesage> ahayzen, plays otherwise, mp3 I think
[22:36] <ahayzen> alesage, are you able to send me that file that is having an issue... or is there anythign strange in the media-hub/music-app logs?
[22:37] <alesage> ahayzen, I'm tailing the music-app log, propose to send all, there are some error-ish items here
[22:37] <alesage> ahayzen, I'll open a bug?
[22:37] <ahayzen> alesage, could you pastebin them so i can see?
[22:40] <alesage> ahayzen, this'll be quite long http://paste.ubuntu.com/10931107
[22:40] <ahayzen> alesage, do you know what the track is called so i can find it?
[22:41] <ahayzen> alesage, 04- A Waste Land.mp3?
[22:41] <alesage> ahayzen, Gopacapulco :)
[22:42] <ahayzen> alesage, nothing unusual in the logs... can you pastebin the media-hub one as well?
[22:42] <alesage> ahayzen, one sec
[22:42] <ahayzen> alesage, also which device is this?
[22:42] <ahayzen> alesage, oh hang on...
[22:43] <alesage> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10931155
[22:43] <ahayzen> Caught runtime exception from mediascanner: Could not find media ///home/phablet/Music/music to test by/01 - Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Gopacapulco.mp3
[22:43] <alesage> ahayzen, ^^
[22:43] <ahayzen> alesage, mediascanner2 log as well please :)
[22:43] <alesage> now my poor taste in music is exposed to the intarnetz
[22:44] <ahayzen> lol
[22:44] <alesage> ahayzen, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10931175/
[22:44] <jhodapp> lol
[22:45] <jhodapp> ahayzen, that's normal
[22:45] <ahayzen> oh its not ms2 for once :) magic
[22:46] <ahayzen> its weird like the lookup in ms2 failed once...other than that when it has been attempted to be played music-app seems ok
[22:46] <jhodapp> ahayzen, I'll probably even be ripping out that code eventually once the tracklist stuff is complete
[22:46] <ahayzen> alesage, are you able to send me the track?
[22:47] <alesage> ahayzen, sure via e-mail maybe?
[22:47] <ahayzen> alesage, yeah or i can download via a cloud share?
[22:47] <melvster> hi guys ... ubuntu touch is awesome, I just bought a touch screen acer v11 and put ubuntu 15.10 on it ... it all works perfectly like a tablet, has this been true since 14.04 or is it new for 15.10? AMAZING!!
[22:47] <ahayzen> whichever is easiest
[22:48] <melvster> most of what I use is responsive web apps anyway, so it really is a tablet experience for me out of the box ...
[22:48] <ahayzen> jhodapp, you don't see anything odd in this media-hub log http://paste.ubuntu.com/10931155/ when playing "Gopacapulco" ?
[22:50] <ahayzen> alesage, is it bad if it plays on my device?
[22:51] <jhodapp> ahayzen, nope, looks good to me...someone played it, paused it and then stopped
[22:51] <ahayzen> alesage, are you on arale?
[22:51] <alesage> ahayzen, yessir
[22:51] <ahayzen> alesage, have you updated to the latest latest image? yesterdays one was a bit broken
[22:51] <alesage> again it plays under other scenarios, just found a blockage and wanted to report in case there's a real bug there
[22:51] <alesage> ahayzen, yes I'm fresh as of 30 min, image-testing as it happens
[22:52] <ahayzen> hmm
[22:52] <ahayzen> alesage, are you able to isolate the logs around a specific instance of the issue?
[22:52] <ahayzen> as there are lots of repeats and its difficult to tell which one may be the one that plays/doesn't play
[22:52] <jhodapp> melvster, glad you like it!
[22:52] <alesage> actually it's at the very end, ahayzen, stopped activity to report
[22:53] <alesage> I'll produce a fresh one if that helps
[22:53] <ahayzen> hmmm
[22:53] <melvster> jhodapp: I love it, been running ubuntu touch on the nexus4 for a year now, but this is a whole new level on a 11 inch screen, do you know which version of ubuntu this happened in, is it new for 15.10?
[22:53] <alesage> freaky, right?
[22:53] <ahayzen> alesage, so what exactly happens it just stops and doesn't play?
[22:54] <jhodapp> melvster, I don't, it's been in there for a while to my knowledge
[22:54] <melvster> awesome! great work all! :D
[22:54] <alesage> song view, songs listed => tap gopacapulco => player view opens, no sound, UI appears unresponsive
[22:54] <alesage> moments later, 'back' works, go back and repeat indefinitely
[22:55] <alesage> seems to be the same for other songs fwiw
[22:55] <alesage> my queue is in a weird state maybe
[22:55] <ahayzen> and does the sound ever work?
[22:55] <ahayzen> if you then say hit play?
[22:56] <alesage> ahayzen, no never
[22:56] <ahayzen> magic
[22:56] <alesage> ahayzen, actually exploring a little, e.g. through album view, same phenomenon from all when entering the player proper, no sound
[22:57] <ahayzen> alesage, jhodapp, this part sounds bad... Failed to start a new media-hub player session: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[22:57] <ahayzen> Failed to create a new media player backend. Video playback will not function.
[22:57] <ahayzen> L1529 as the app is starting
[22:57] <ahayzen> alesage, has your media-hub-server crashed?
[22:58] <jhodapp> ahayzen, seems media-hub died
[22:58] <ahayzen> ...L1529 in this log http://paste.ubuntu.com/10931107/
[22:58] <ahayzen> does that show up in the media-hub log though? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10931155/
[22:58] <alesage> fwiw http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10931358/ jhodapp ahayzen
[22:58] * ahayzen blames jhodapp ;)
[22:58] <jhodapp> alesage, it's set to auto restart, so it's probably a new media-hub-server process
[22:59] <alesage> pid looks low though . . .
[22:59] <alesage> if I bounce it and it works what does that mean?
[23:01] <alesage> nothing of interest in topo
[23:02] <alesage> I feel like we don't have quite enough infos for a real bug here, is there more to collect jhodapp ahayzen ?
[23:02] <alesage> s/topo/top/
[23:02] <jhodapp> alesage, not really, if you can reproduce this again and again then I'd say file a bug
[23:02] <jhodapp> might just be an edge case instance
[23:03] <alesage> jhodapp, ok we'll archive what we have and I'll start fresh
[23:03] <jhodapp> alesage, ok awesome
[23:12] <mcphail> Can anyone confirm a bug in the music app/ media player for me?
[23:12] <ahayzen> mcphail, i can in music.. which bug?
[23:13] <mcphail> ahayzen: music player/media app won't play a file in a subdirectory with a # symbol in the path
[23:13] <mcphail> ahayzen: e.g. not under "30 #1 hits"
[23:14] <mcphail> ahayzen: i _think_ this is what is causing my problem...
[23:14] <ahayzen> mcphail, interesting ... let me try
[23:15] <ahayzen> mcphail, yeah that breaks it
[23:15] <mcphail> ahayzen: is it the music player or media-hub which breaks?
[23:15] <ahayzen> mcphail, music
[23:15] <mcphail> ahayzen: ok, i'll file a bug
[23:16] <ahayzen> mcphail, hang on just want to check which project to file against...
[23:16] <mcphail> ok
[23:16] <ahayzen> jhodapp, i'm getting this back http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10931522/ is this us or you?
[23:16] <jhodapp> all you ;)
[23:17] <jhodapp> haha, let me look
[23:17] * ahayzen spots ms2 mentioned
[23:17] <ahayzen> maybe its the third part of the triangle this time
[23:17] <jhodapp> ahayzen, that's an error that gstreamer couldn't decode the file
[23:17] <ahayzen> ah
[23:17] <ahayzen> jhodapp, #'s are allowed in uris right?
[23:18] <jhodapp> ahayzen, in theory, but try without it
[23:18] <ahayzen> jhodapp, well the bug mcphail is reporting is that if you have a # it breaks audio playback...i just added a # and now i can't play that track
[23:19] <ahayzen> jhodapp, just wondered if the bug should be against music/mh or?
[23:19] <jhodapp> ahayzen, seems it's gstreamer since it got down to the mh level, so file it against mh
[23:19] <ahayzen> ok mcphail ^^ against media-hub please https://bugs.launchpad.net/media-hub
[23:20] <mcphail> ahayzen: will do
[23:20] <ahayzen> mcphail, and if you reference that pastebin it could be useful
[23:20] <mcphail> ahayzen: np
[23:20] <jhodapp> thanks mcphail
[23:20] <ahayzen> thanks
[23:29] <mcphail> bug 1449790 reported
[23:30] <ahayzen> mcphail, thanks :)
[23:31] <mcphail> ahayzen: my pleasure
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2024-05-13T22:11:00.632769
| 2015-04-28T00:00:00
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2015-04-28-#ubuntu-mir
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{
"authors": [
"RAOF",
"alan_g",
"anpok",
"duflu",
"kdub",
"robert_ancell"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-mir",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:96",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/28/%23ubuntu-mir.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
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[03:29] <duflu> camako, tmpRAOF: Forgot to mention - vGEM (2.0?) in kernel 4.1 sounds interesting. Seems to solve the performance problems (and PRIME support) for generalized software rendering support
[03:45] <duflu> camako, RAOF: I suspect it doesn't solve the KMS bit though. But other projects do
[03:45] <RAOF> Yeah, you still need some way of modesetting.
[03:46] <duflu> Although I don't like saying "you need kernel 4.1", I do like that vGEM aims to solve performance issues that I had hoped to (and never expected to realistically) ever fix myself
[16:25] <alan_g> kdub: does this resolve the confusion? https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/mir/more-surface-resize/+merge/256912/comments/642572
[16:28] <kdub> alan_g, I guess a bit closer, maybe i'm just pointing out that if width_inc is not set, then its the same thing as setting it to 1
[16:29] <alan_g> kdub: yes, that's a possible server implementation.
[16:29] <kdub> alan_g, and in the comment, it says "(if set, otherwise 0)"
[16:30] <alan_g> in the comment it says "*min_width* (if set, otherwise 0)"
[16:31] <kdub> alan_g, ah, there's the source of the confusion
[16:32] <kdub> alan_g, okay then lgtm
[16:35] <alan_g> alf_: is this clearer? https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/mir/more-surface-resize/+merge/256912
[22:38] <robert_ancell> willcooke sent me a command for running Xmir on convergence devices "MIR_SOCKET=$XDG_RUNTIME_DIR/mir_socket Xmir --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/los.desktop". What provides /usr/bin/Xmir?
[22:43] <anpok> it used to be in here: https://launchpad.net/~mlankhorst/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[22:47] <robert_ancell> anpok, interesting - that package provides /usr/bin/Xmir but the standard package in the archives does not
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2024-05-13T22:11:00.652892
| 2015-04-28T00:00:00
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2015-04-28-#ubuntu-release
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{
"authors": [
"apw",
"cjwatson",
"infinity",
"ogra_",
"teward",
"tjaalton",
"tumbleweed"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-release",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:97",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/28/%23ubuntu-release.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
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[12:45] <tjaalton> infinity: so, lts-vivid.. got time for that today?
[12:46] <infinity> tjaalton: Xish bits? Yeah, I can find the time to start looking.
[12:47] <tjaalton> llvm-toolchain-3.6 needs to be acked/built before mesa (not uploaded yet), then xserver
[12:47] <tjaalton> and after these the rest
[12:47] <tjaalton> drivers
[12:47] <infinity> tjaalton: I see none of them in the queue.
[12:47] <tjaalton> hmm
[12:47] <tjaalton> should be
[12:48] <tjaalton> new queue
[12:48] <infinity> Derp.
[12:48] <tjaalton> libdrm too, for armhf
[12:48] <infinity> I also need to wake up.
[12:48] <tjaalton> heh
[12:50] <infinity> tjaalton: Going to strap on the ol' caffeine rifle and go hunt down a coffee, then I'll look at llvm. Feel free to upload more bits, just let me know the order in which they need love.
[12:50] <tjaalton> sure, I'll be back in 30 to fix mesa
[12:50] <tjaalton> the ppa version is older than what's in vivid
[12:51] <infinity> apw: Since we didn't finish reviewing the kernel at the release sprint, will you have time to sort us out this week?
[13:03] <apw> infinity, should do indeed
[13:12] <infinity> tjaalton: Oh nice, llvm is a straight backport with no changes? I like to see that.
[13:13] * infinity lets that build, then goes coffee hunting.
[13:17] <tjaalton> infinity: yeah indeed
[15:32] <tjaalton> infinity: llvm is still building on armhf, others are ready. uploaded mesa-lts-vivid just a moment ago
[20:58] * tumbleweed wonders if we'll ever have a name...
[21:08] <ogra_> we'll just call it the-w-thing
[21:09] <tumbleweed> warty2.0
[21:09] <cjwatson> infinity: when do you time out and call it wascally wabbit?
[21:09] <infinity> cjwatson: wascawwy.
[21:10] <cjwatson> of course.
[21:10] <infinity> cjwatson: And I dunno. I kinda like paying my rent.
[21:10] <teward> did W series get a name selected yet or no?
[21:10] * teward is curious :P
[21:10] <infinity> cjwatson: So, frustration level might have to get up there a bit.
[21:11] <infinity> teward: Yes, and no.
[21:11] <teward> mind.state() == imploded.
[21:14] <cjwatson> oh, is it one of those? that's annoying.
[21:17] <infinity> cjwatson: Quite.
[21:17] <infinity> cjwatson: The sabdfl giveth and the sabdfl taketh thy name.
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2024-05-13T22:11:00.656935
| 2015-04-28T00:00:00
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2015-04-28-#ubuntu-motu
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{
"authors": [
"Laney",
"Rhonda",
"dholbach",
"mitya57",
"pipedream",
"varp"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-motu",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:98",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/28/%23ubuntu-motu.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
|
[05:48] <pipedream> mitya57: I think my symlink/directory packaging problem was due to the change from folder to symlink in an upgrade: https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Dpkg/FAQ#Q:_Will_dpkg_replace_a_symlink_with_a_directory_or_vice_versa.3F
[06:43] <mitya57> pipedream: well, you said that symlink was replaced with a directory at build time, not at install time
[06:48] <varp> Hello, everyone! =)
[06:48] <varp> I have compiled snort package in my PPA
[06:48] <dholbach> good morning
[06:48] <varp> i've compiled the package from ubuntu upstream
[06:49] <varp> what i mean
[06:49] <varp> bzr branch ubuntu:snort
[06:49] <varp> the last version of snort in the ubuntu upstream is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:50] <varp> as may you know, new version of snort is out <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:50] <varp> ohh sory
[06:50] <varp> <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:51] <varp> i've made decision to update package in the snort package in my ppa
[06:51] <varp> sorry for a long prelude =)
[06:51] <varp> i've done following for building new version
[06:52] <varp> 1. bzr branch ubuntu:snort
[06:52] <varp> 2. download the snort latest tarball <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:53] <varp> 3. bzr merege-upstream /path/to/latest/snort/tarball
[06:53] <varp> The question is
[06:53] <varp> Is that correct way of updating package to the new upstream ?
[06:57] <varp> Why i asking. When i did these steps I confront with that, I need to fix quilt patches manually
[06:59] <varp> Any suggestions ?
[07:14] <varp> Any help gents ?
[07:33] <varp> Guys how i can skip applying patches during bzr buildeb ?
[08:36] <pipedream> mitya57: no, it is an upgrade issue, I was wrong, it was not at build time
[08:37] <pipedream> mitya57: the deb says it contains a symlink
[08:37] <pipedream> so it was at install time
[08:37] <pipedream> (a new install would not show this problem, oly an upgrade)
[08:39] <mitya57> Then you need to remove the old directory in preinst
[15:10] <Rhonda> hmm
[15:10] <Rhonda> vivid released, but what's the new devel release?
[15:10] <Rhonda> Because "devel" still claims its codename is vivid?
[15:14] <Laney> unknown ...
[15:21] <Rhonda> unknown is a strange codename
[15:21] <Rhonda> unknown unicorn?
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2024-05-13T22:11:00.659163
| 2015-04-28T00:00:00
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2015-04-28-#lubuntu
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{
"authors": [
"Bob-",
"Unit193",
"gassho",
"stormey",
"wxl"
],
"channel": "#lubuntu",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:99",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/28/%23lubuntu.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
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[05:01] <stormey> part
[05:09] <Bob-> i downloaded lubuntu v15.04 , burned it to a dvd, and tried to boot up off the just burned cd, when i try, it either does not boot up off the cd/freezes during CD boot, or when it does boot, it gives the following error code: booting kernal failed: invalid argument. does anyone know about this issue?
[05:57] <gassho> Running 14.04.2 LXLE, IRC works, HTTP doesn't.
[05:58] <gassho> Synaptic doesn't have much success either for me at this moment.
[06:00] <Unit193> gassho: For LXLE support please use their support medium, http://www.lxle.net/forums/ or https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxle-general
[06:01] <gassho> Oh I thought that LXLE was based on Lubuntu...
[06:01] <Unit193> Last I knew it was.
[06:04] <wxl> someone needs to tell him that since LXDE is based on Lubuntu and Lubuntu is based on Ubuntu which is based on Debian, he
[06:04] <wxl> s' clearly in the wrong channel
[06:04] <wxl> :)
[06:05] <wxl> s/DE/LE/
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2024-05-13T22:11:00.662265
| 2015-04-28T00:00:00
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2015-04-28-#ubuntu-kernel
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{
"authors": [
"cristian_c",
"dgadomski",
"henrix",
"jsalisbury"
],
"channel": "#ubuntu-kernel",
"license": "Public Domain",
"provenance": "ubuntu-chat-dolma-0000.json.gz:100",
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/28/%23ubuntu-kernel.txt"
}
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ubuntu-chat
|
[10:49] <henrix> dgadomski: i'm seeing a failure verifying bug #1124250 . could you please have a look?
[10:50] <henrix> dgadomski: the failure doesn't come from the original reporter, so it is possible the user is having a different issue
[11:31] <dgadomski> henrix: hey, I will ask the user about it, but I suspect that he didn't extend his key quota, I'll confirm that
[11:32] <henrix> dgadomski: awesome, thanks
[14:54] <jsalisbury> **
[14:54] <jsalisbury> ** Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - Canceled**
[19:25] <cristian_c> jsalisbury, hello
[19:28] <jsalisbury> cristian_c, hi
[19:30] <cristian_c> jsalisbury, sorry, I'd like to know if there any news about the kernel build
[19:31] <jsalisbury> cristian_c, I still haven't completely narrowed it down. I'll make time to take another look at it this week.
[19:33] <cristian_c> jsalisbury, ok, thanks
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