"You Will Have to Kill All of Us!"
Posted on February 2, 2013 by Baron Bodissey
Geert Wilders was invited to speak today at an event in North Rhine-Westphalia by the German citizens' group Bürgerbewegung Pax Europa. Other Counterjihad activists were also featured as speakers, among them Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff, who is well known to regular Gates of Vienna readers.
Below is the prepared text for the speech that was given today (in German) by Elisabeth. Many thanks to JLH for the translation.
Ladies and Gentlemen, My Dear Geert, Dear Friends:
Yet again our meeting today makes an unmistakable statement : We will go on, we will meet with whom we wish and we will not allow ourselves to be told which opinion is the "morally correct" one. It is just fantastic how many have traveled to meet our friend, Geert Wilders, despite the agitation of the press and the threats of the so-called "anti-fascists."
But, as so often, there is a bitter aftertaste. As became known several days ago, Geert's book, Marked for Death, will unfortunately not appear in German. Freedom of the press and of opinion — protected by the constitution — must give way once more to the so-called "blasphemy and hate speech paragraphs".
An absurdity in the 21st century!
The organization, Reporters Without Borders, has just released its annual report on press freedom. Germany comes in at a pathetic 17th place!
And instead of honoring freedom as the highest value a nation of laws can serve, German Chancellor Angela Merkel is meeting on the 80th anniversary of the coup d'état by National Socialism with — of all people — the Egyptian president and Muslim Brotherhood leader, Muhammad Morsi.
May the voters pay her back for that in September!
What connects Geert and me is that we both have faced a court trial for speaking the truth, for our statements on the so-called Prophet Mohammed and Islam.
What distinguishes us from one another is that Geert was found not guilty and I was found guilty. Small wonder that my country Austria has fallen a full seven places in the Reporters Without Borders ranking of press freedom, to 12th place!
Dear Geert, I will not let this get me down any more than it has you. I will continue to say that 2+ 2 = 4, and not 5, as the enemies of freedom would have us believe. Geert, you were my great example during my trial: calm, realistic, wedded to the truth. I will always be grateful to you for that!
And while you have been battling on the political plain for freedom and truth, my work in the international arena is intensifying. Together with an alliance of NGOs which is growing yearly, I am taking a stand as the representative of the human rights organization BPE [Bürgerbewegung Pax Europa] on behalf of the freedoms for which we have been fighting for generations.
Our most important field of endeavor is the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe — the OSCE. During the Cold War, its mission was diplomatic mediation between East and West. Today it is supposed to be monitoring the institutional implementation of human rights in the participating states.
But for several years we have witnessed the exact opposite. The Organization for Islamic Cooperation (OIC) is sending its lobbyists to the meetings of the OSCE. Under cover of "religious freedom," they are demanding the abolition of all other freedoms: of the press, of expression, of science and research.
And all that just because they might feel insulted?
What the submission lobbyists did not reckon with is that they are encountering powerful headwinds. At the OSCE conference in October of last year, we repeatedly exposed the Islamic propaganda, showed up its representatives and unmasked their true agenda.
And our work is having success. Our positions are documented and discussed in detail in the reports of the OSCE.
More and more, and even publicly, representatives of European countries are agreeing with us. For instance, that fighting words like "Islamophobia" should be juridically defined before they are used.
Here in Germany, the politically motivated trial of Prof. Armin Geus for hate speech had to be halted. This, after I had spoken about the case in the OSCE this Fall in the name of BPE.
Likewise here in Germany and also in Great Britain, we are defending every centimeter of the right to assemble — a Michael Stürzenberger must be just as free to speak his mind as EDL head Tommy Robinson.
In the middle of this month, with several friends, I will again participate in a human rights conference in Geneva, which will be attended by very prominent people. And again I will insist that it finally be made clear how much the "Cairo Declaration of Human Rights in Islam" has in common with universal human rights and the UN charter of human rights — NOTHING, dear friends, absolutely nothing at all!
I thank the BPE and all its members for their generous support. For you, Geert — and I am sure I can speak for all assembled here — I wish that you may in future be spared any more trials. We all have better uses for out time!
For me, dear friends, there are no more compromises and there is no more hiding. I will remain committed to the truth!
And — to speak in concert with our much-valued Ayaan Hirsi Ali: Let us stand more firmly together and share the risk. The next time a book, a cartoon or a film provokes a fatwa, we must send a single worldwide message to the Islamic enemies of freedom: Killing one of us will not be enough. Take out a big loan at the Bank of Jihad. Because you will have to kill all of us!
For previous posts on the "hate speech" prosecution of Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff, see Elisabeth's Voice: The Archives.
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jlh on February 2, 2013 at 11:56 am said:
I recall a comment shortly after Elisabeth's conviction in the obviously manipulated trial, suggesting that the result of the verdict had been the opposite of what had been intended.
And, in fact, this was just the beginning of her transformation from a self-taught expert on Islam, offering a seminar to interested citizens, to a full-fledged spokesperson for the "resistance" movement. Instead of intimidating an annoying Austrian citizen into silence, they have created an international gadfly who will have more effect at home and abroad. Such are the unexpected outcomes of bullying.
ChristianInfidel on February 5, 2013 at 12:22 am said:
ChristianInfidel says:
Excellent observation!
Egghead on February 2, 2013 at 9:55 pm said:
"The next time a book, a cartoon or a film provokes a fatwa, we must send a single worldwide message to the Islamic enemies of freedom: Killing one of us will not be enough. Take out a big loan at the Bank of Jihad. Because you will have to kill all of us!"
I respect you greatly, Elisabeth, but I hope that you will abandon your thesis above.
In truth, it is ALWAYS dangerous to challenge mentally unstable and immoral people to murder your supporters. There are ALWAYS some who will be perfectly happy to take you up on the offer – and consider themselves a great success in doing so.
Essentially, your message here is the SAME as the jihadis – jihadis believe that they have to murder all counterjihadis and infidels and then you confirm that jihadis will need to murder all counterjihadis and infidels.
My army officer dad used to say, "Never point a gun at someone unless you plan to use it." I say to you, "Never publicly challenge jihadis to murder MORE antijihadis and infidels – because jihadis just might actually murder MORE antijihadis and infidels!"
Patrick Henry on February 3, 2013 at 12:32 am said:
"Killing one of us will not be enough. Take out a big loan at the Bank of Jihad. Because you will have to kill all of us!"
Elisabeth, I stand with you. I say to the jihadists, BRING IT ON! And we're not alone, Elisabeth.
P.H.
Egghead on February 3, 2013 at 1:17 am said:
It's a BAAAAD idea to suggest that crazy people who have insane friends with access to big bad weapons will have to kill (really torture and murder) all of the limited number of readily identifiable counterjihadis.
Col. Bunny on February 4, 2013 at 12:24 pm said:
Egghead, I think that missing links who every waking and sleeping moment dream of killing infidel pigs are unlikely to be motivated to do something by what some rational infidel writes.
Egghead on February 4, 2013 at 11:34 pm said:
Even jihadis have limited attention spans, time, and resources and thus make conscious decisions about WHO, WHEN, and WHERE to murder, so it is best to keep jihadis' attention off of counter-jihadis and their supporters.
Loudly announcing, "Hey jihadis, you will have to kill all of us counter-jihadis" seems to me to be a terrible battle strategy – if counter-jihadis actually want to win the greater war.
While Ayaan Hirsi Ali and ESW have their merits, I highly doubt that military strategy is an area of expertise of them – or me! Yet, self-preservation tells me that you NEVER challenge jihadis to kill you and your supporters – even if you are armed and ready and sure that you will win – which counter-jihadis are most definitely NOT.
Green Infidel on February 3, 2013 at 5:53 am said:
While I have a lot of respect for ESW, Geert Wilders has, lately, been setting up a website for reporting on "nuisances" committed by Eastern Europeans in the Netherlands. Eastern Europeans who could have been his natural supporters! Yet instead, he has been the butt of jokes from Polish comedians and scathing reviews from Polish media – of all stripes…
Yes, I realise that there are a lot of Poles in Netherlands – perhaps too many for many Dutch peoples' liking. Yet by publicly siding with such an act and seeming to join a "witch-hunt" against Poles, Geert Wilders seems to be intent on proving himself to be the "populist" many of his opponents accuse him of being – someone less interested in the ideological aspect, than in showing himself to be against the voters' pet hate of the moment, in order to get himself more votes.
While this strategy may indeed increase his rating in the short run, in the long term such divisiveness will likely hinder his chances with voters he would need, should he ever want to win power…
Elisabeth on February 3, 2013 at 12:15 pm said:
Green Infidel, why do Geert's actions as a Dutch politican regarding internal Dutch policies have to do with me? You seem to be suggesting that I may somehow be tainted because I stood next to him while he is (supposedly) asking the Dutch people to whistblow on Eastern Europeans.
I can assure you that I stand with Geert on all matters Islam, Immigration and EU, but the rest is internal Dutch policy, which in no way is for me to criticize.
Elisabeth on February 3, 2013 at 1:31 pm said:
sorry, I meant to say:
"What do his actions have to do with me."
@Elisabeth – I never meant to imply that Geert's actions had something to do with you. If this is what you understood, then it's not what I had in mind.
Col. Bunny on February 4, 2013 at 1:05 pm said:
I can think of "nuisances" committed by certain travelers from Romania in Britain that are just cause for fury on the part of Britons. I suspect that some similar subgroup of all Polish people in the world are engaging in parasitic or antisocial behavior in the Netherlands, of which many Dutch are aware andwhich enfuriates them. Poles in Poland have no cause to assume that low-class Poles are not part of their Diaspora. I don't assume there is not a scum component among Americans abroad.
The left and our Muslim enemies love to shut down discussion by throwing the Kloak of Kumbaya over any discussion of actual pathology. Find one Muslim who believes the world is round and then let there be not another word about honor killings. All men are brothers!!!!!!
It is not "divisiveness" to call attention to actual unacceptable behavior or to say that behavior is unacceptable, Polish comedians notwithstanding.
@Egghead
I have spent, I believe, an aggregate of hours reading your comments here, because I find them interesting and challenging (and usually in tune with my own). In this case, however, I think you have overlooked a couple of things.
1) The words you object to are not Elisabeth's, but Ayaan Hiri Ali's, written long enough ago to have already have any effect they might have. And I would argue that their effect is greater among people who love freedom than among those dedicated to killing them,
2) Simply saying "Bring it on!" will never be as maddening to these blood-flecked barbarians as a single cartoon mocking "the Prophet."
3) As Andrew Bostom's and research, for instance, has shown, and Fjordman has confirmed, they can never kill all of us potential dhimmis because they NEED us. Unlike our potential Islamic slaver-masters, we are energetic, ambitious and creative and the more strictly Muslim a society is, the more constricted it is by its no-think religious rules. The "infidels"–despite the burdens placed on them–are often the most productive members of the society. As our own president knows, you have to calculate how much misery you can load onto the true producers before you kill the golden goose.
At the very least, their own rulers recognize that any wealth they have will dry up when they cannot live off our productivity.
jlh: Thanks for your kind comment. I am honored. I had indeed missed that the last paragraph was a (presumed) quotation of Ayaan Hirsi Ali. But, for me, the larger point remains that it is rather unwise to openly challenge your opponents to kill you and all of your supporters.
The idea that Ayaan Hirsi Ali said her words long ago is irrelevant to Muslims (and their leftist friends who monitor antijihadis) who often fasten upon old media items (e.g., cartoons) to create new controversies as a pretext to riot at any time that it is convenient to their needs. Besides, Elisabeth just said those words anew so they are fresh again.
The idea that freedom-loving people are buoyed by an idea that equates to "Well, they can't kill all of us, can they?" is less than reassuring when one considers that, given power and time, Muslims often can and do kill ALL competitors for land and culture.
I also dislike the use of the word kill instead of murder because murder would be the correct term. As I understand it, Ayaan Hirsi Ali did (and perhaps still does?) live in hiding because our opponents are dedicated to torturing and murdering her.
Elisabeth is an extremely talented writer so I trust that she can figure out a safer way to express her message in the future. Islam is a death cult, so the idea that jihadis would have to kill all anti-jihadis and infidels is an idea that we want to minimize rather than emphasize.
In this case, the past is NOT a predictor or the present or future. The power brokers in Iran believe that world annihilation is necessary to bring the Islamic Madhi so that all will be Muslim. It is best to tamp down their rhetoric as patently ridiculous – instead of echoing it and amplifying it on our side so that we reinforce their craziness.
"Bring it on!" is the last thing that we want to say to crazy people with nuclear bombs and a professed death wish for the entire world!
But, thanks for the comments. As you know, I love a good debate. 🙂
Mo Brown on February 4, 2013 at 2:10 pm said:
Egghead…perhaps the time to draw a line in the sand is now. I ten, twenty years, Muslims will gain majority vote and use the democratic process to vote in Sharia politicians. With each passing day, national sovereignty will be encroached upon. All the national defense leagues will need to ban together for mass protests, demonstrations and education of the indigenous masses. Today thousands are leaving the UK in what has been dubbed as "White Flight". Those left behind are either oblivious to Islamification or hoping the *Sharia crocodile* will eat them last. Native Europeans have no weapons to riot or take to the streets in protest. They must do so with non-violent, non-cooperation.
s.ducain on February 4, 2013 at 3:00 pm said:
Ah but we do have weapons, we have numbers which if large enough is too much for any police force. We also have fists and if necessary, sticks. The point is that we have to confront the Establishment and their running dogs the Police and see what transpires. We will always be playing catch-up, but Robinson had them worried with large numbers of peaceful people in their faces.
I agree to a point. Britain (especially London) has more surveillance cameras than almost any large city in the world. It would take thousands of non-violent protesters walking through the streets to gain media attention. Controlling such a large group would be tricky. EDL was able to keep their members in line for the most part. However, some would get drunk and disorderly and resort to hooliganism which will destroy a non-violent group's image in a heartbeat. This is the only option at the present time. Although the sales of Louisville slugger baseball bats skyrocketed on UKEBAY during the riots and fires of 2011 in London.
tedh754 on February 3, 2013 at 11:13 am said:
She stole the line about "bank of jihad" from Mark Steyn!
Well, Mark Steyn did not copyright this termn, did he?
It is too good not to use…
Nick on February 3, 2013 at 3:30 pm said:
"It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours, that we are fighting, but for freedom – for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself." – Declaration of Arbroath, 1320.
andrew sapia on December 28, 2013 at 5:04 pm said:
Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 shows that the Scotts came from Scythia and are part of the lost tribes of Israel along with the Danes, the angles, the Saxons, basically all of the northwestern European countries. Does anyone ever see the prophetic implications for all this. I know I sound like a nut but why is it that the whole peace and survival of the world today revolves around this group of people and their ancient enemies the haggarites as they were first called by the Byzantines. It's Europe, America, Israel against the descendants of Ishmael all over a little sliver of the Levant. Say what you like this has everything to do with the state of Israel. How have the prophets of old been able to set this all up. I mean likelihood that that the Jews or the state of Israel would even exist, some going on 3000 years now, in the future since their prophecies, let alone that they would be so critical in the geopolitics of it all. It is a coincidence that the Judeo-Christian nations of Europe and Islam would be so important? It's really strain credulity to believe this is all not prophetic somehow. Northwest European nations are the lost tribes that became the Christian gentile nations that accepted the Jewish messiah. And the children of Ishmael are still hating them and trying to kill them over the birthright promises given to Abraham.
Tim Pryce on February 3, 2013 at 4:57 pm said:
Hello Elisabeth.
Did not know you were appearing in Bonn this week end. Would have liked to have been there to see you and Geert live. Would I have been allowed to enter the hotel as a meer citizen? or were there tight security messures in place?
Still, think what you and Geert are doing is most respectfull and am behind you both.
Thank you for all your hard work and sacrifice.
Elisabeth on February 4, 2013 at 1:50 am said:
I would have been honored to meet you.
If you know German, it is always a good idea to read PI on a regular basis, for that is where the information about GW's appearance was found (mine as well).
joe blowe on February 3, 2013 at 5:56 pm said:
Wondering if everyone if familiar with W. Churchill's words of so long ago.
[ Forenote: Sir Winston Churchill has been recognized as one of the greatest men of the late nineteenth and of the twentieth century. He was an extraordinary war leader to whom the Western World must be forever in debt. He was a prophet in his own time as this quotation, written well over 100 years ago, demonstrates.]
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!
Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many
countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
[ Postnotes: (1) Sir Winston, as an officer of the British Army, served in the Sudan and in the Crimean War; in both instances against the Muslims. These experiences gave him ample opportunity to observe the structure of Islamic society. (2) Churchill's quotes were taken from the volume: Sir Winston Churchill; "The River War", first edition, Volume II, pages 248-250, published by Longmans, Green & Company, 1899. (3) If Sir Winston were alive today, it is doubtful that a person in Great Britain criticizing Islam publicly could be arrested, and then fined or jailed, and even more doubtful that any Muslims would be sitting in the English Parliament! ]
Thank you for supplying the reference for this quote. That makes it easier to confirm and to use with confidence and authority.
Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff, it's an honor to have you join us in the comments section. In the hope that you are still checking in here, I'd like to thank you and express my support. Please know that I have donated to you at least twice (and will continue) and have also honored you on my FaceBook page. It is wonderful to read of you and your colleagues' accomplishments. May God bless and protect you and your loved ones. You are in my prayers.