Waterline: Mixed-Use Building to be Tallest Tower In Texas
By Urbannizer,
May 2, 2013 in Austin
Urbannizer
Location:ATX, HTX, GTX
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Two Austin developers are proposing a $500 million mixed-use project downtown that — if it happens — would change the skyline with three new towers, including a high-rise with condominiums and hotel rooms that could become Austin's tallest building.
Mac Pike and Wally Scott, principals in the Sutton Co., a real estate investment and development company, told the American-Statesman they want to build their project — tentatively called Waller Center — on 3 acres near East Cesar Chavez and Red River streets, along the banks of Waller Creek.
Read More: http://www.statesman.com/news/business/proposed-project-3-downtown-towers-one-up-to-65-st/nXdk3/
Urbannizer 24 posts
The Hills 16 posts
arche_757 6 posts
strickn 5 posts
This one is pretty handsome if you ask me. A refined, integrated composition, not three separate modules that look like they were all designed independently and stuck together.
Paco Jones
74-Story Total of +/- 2,700,000 SF. Building height of 1,021 FT. Lincoln Property Company / Kairoi Residential are developing Waller Creek, a 74 story MIXED-USE project located n
It's cool to see supertalls going up in Texas once again after a such a long hiatus but that's one ugly ass building. People get paid to design this shit? Woof
New Rendering:
TowerSpotter
Location:El Salvador - Houston
Whoa, that is going to the tallest building in Austin right?
Yep. It's expected to be around 750' - 800' feet. There's alao a hotel planned for another site across the street that will be 691' feet.
I am guessing the Fairmont? A lot of good things are happening in Austin, I am loving the transformation.
Guest Jackwood
Keep Austin
WoW Austin is getting some impressive developments.
Is Austin zoned to only allow tall buildings downtown? Is this the reason why they're getting so many?
I wouldn't think so because there are a couple of buildings being built/proposed in downtown under 20 stories.
Sorry, I meant is their downtown the only place they're allowed to build tall buildings?
In that case, I wouldn't know.
There's also the Rainey district -- rezoned in 2004 to encourage more development near the convention center.
New design, all three towers will begin construction at the same time. 46-floors, 38-floors, and 21-floors
http://www.ibigroup.com/projects/waller-park-place
This is likely not the final design as this project is still being tweeked. A New York City based company has signed on as the financial backer and the tallest tower may still rise over 50 stories.
Downtown Austin is currently the only area in the city that is zoned for major highrise towers though that will change once the remaining lots open for development are snatched up. There is a series of Capitol View Corridors that radiate from the State Capitol Building. In these areas, buildings are not allowed to be built over 15 floors.
However outside of the CVC's there are lots that have no height limit therefore a developer could build as tall as they deem feasible.
There are also some other specific height overlays such as the Riverfront Overlay which keeps highrises from being built right up to the Colorado River. It is mostly a step back requirement. There is a height limit within the Warehouse District as well.
I used to think these were limiters for tall buildings in Austin but they actually create an environment that requires development to build up rather than out. There CVC's are a great example of this as we have highrises such as the 360 and Spring Towers which part of their lots have are within a CVC. The result being the developers had to build up. Instead of 360 being a 26 floor residential building, it rises to 44 stories. Spring rises to 43 stories, it is actually wedged between two CVCs. There are a couple of CVC's that could be removed but overall they have been beneficial to the city.
The Warehouse District is one of the many entertainment districts within Downtown. The cool thing about the Overlay is it has created an island surrounded by highrises on all sides. You can go to the many rooftop clubs and restaurants and enjoy awesome views of the city.
Edited March 23, 2014 by JDawg512
towerjunkie
Almost fell out of my chair reading the slightly misleading title, anyways that's great for Austin! For some reason I prefer the second rendering of the complex as opposed to the newest or maybe I need new glasses...
Im half and half on the recent renderings. I really think there will be new ones released by summer. This is a huge project with a very prominent location. With this project and the Fairmont across the street, these towers will totally dominate over I-35 coming in from both north and south.
UtterlyUrban
Is there a target ground breaking for these?
Latest I have heard is in a month or two.
74-Story
Total of +/- 2,700,000 SF.
Building height of 1,021 FT.
Lincoln Property Company / Kairoi Residential are developing Waller Creek, a 74 story MIXED-USE project located near Lady Bird Lake in downtown Austin, Texas. The project consists of a parking structure with 3 levels below grade and 12 above, a 240 key 5 star hotel, 25 levels of office tower, and 34 levels/363 units of residential space.
Kohn Pederson Fox Associates has been selected as the Design Architect along with HKS Architects as the architect of record. WALLER CREEK will be developed by a joint venture of LPC and Kairoi on approximately 3 acres of land at the Southwest corner of West Cesar Chavez Street and Red River Street.
The current program consists of:
a) +/- 2,582,413 GSF as defined by BOMA of mixed use, corporate office, hotel, and residential located in one (1) 74 story building.
b) The first and second floor of the seventy-four ( 74 ) story tower will include an office lobby, a hotel lobby, and retail space (fit out by others).
c) Levels 14 and 15 features an office amenity space.
d) Levels 41,42,43, and 74 features a residential amenity space.
e) +/- 1,780 space parking structure +/- 909,968 GSF as defined by BOMA on three levels below grade and twelve levels above grade.
f) Levels 01 thru 16 podium include a 240 key 4 star hotel.
g) Parking structure features exterior screened walls and office/residential tower features.
Edit: Corrected building height
Edited November 6, 2020 by Paco Jones
Corrected building height
@Paco Jones What's the building height without sea level factored in?
2 hours ago, Urbannizer said:
My mistake.
It is 1,021 FT.
1 hour ago, Paco Jones said:
New tallest in Texas.
I wonder if this pushes developers to build something taller here in Houston and/or Dallas.
@Paco Jones You're famous
https://austin.towers.net/downtown-austins-first-supertall-tower-plan-arrives-at-waller-creek-site/
"Plans for the western tract, also known by the address 98 Red River, were leaked along with some renderings earlier this week by a user named Paco Jones on development website Houston Architecture Info, showing a 74-story tower containing a total of 2.7 million square feet."
Edited November 6, 2020 by Yoda
Added quote
Posted by "The ATX" on https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=199012&page=278
Here's another rendering of 98 Red River with a nice view of the project's second tower 99 Red River. The third building is a rendering of Tower 1 in the approved Travis Towers project. Tower 1 ~600' and Tower 2 is ~700'.
Though people on that forum seem to believe @Paco Jones renderings are more recent.
Posted by "CTroyMathis" on https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=199012&page=279
"Just a heads up for this thread also, the FAA received a request last week for 1025 FT for the 98 Red River site. If you were looking for it searching Austin, you probably wouldn't have found it. Someone submitted the wrong city, but, all else is correct including map, lat, long.
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...257981&row=359"
1025 FT means this will indeed be the tallest in Texas.
This was posted on the same page by "The ATX"
1/7 by me
This one will not win many plaudits for looks. The facade reminds me of the fake brick rolled asphalt that people used to put on the sides of their houses.
Edited January 28, 2021 by H-Town Man
kbates2
Looks better than our supertalls, unfortunately.
MaxConcrete
The Austin Business Journal recently (28-Jan-21) posted a report with a summary of downtown high-rise activity, including planned and rumored projects.
There is no mention of this project, 98 Red River.
This is what the article says about the tallest building in Austin
19. Unnamed (321 W. Sixth St.)
Minneapolis-based Ryan Companies is moving forward with its plans to build what could be the second-tallest high-rise in Austin. The proposed 60-story apartment and office high-rise at the southeast corner of West Sixth and Guadalupe streets would be two stories higher than The Independent, but six stories shorter than 6 X Guadalupe (which would be built across the street). The most recent plans call for 390 luxury apartments – 27 more than previously reported – and 96,000 square feet of class A office space. Ryan Companies also recently confirmed that construction is expected to start in early fourth quarter of this year. The project is still in the design and permitting phase.
This project is the closest mentioned to the site of 98 Red River
20. The Travis/M2 project (80 Red River St.)
Towers have long been floated for this site. A new proposal emerged Jan. 27, when M2 Development Partners announced plans for a 64-story tower with a mix of apartments, condos and hotel rooms. The Austin-American Statesman reported groundbreaking is possible in April 2022, with completion possible in third quarter 2025. This is the same address where Genesis Real Estate Group has floated plans for multiple towers under the project name The Travis.
It is quite mind-boggling to have 43 projects in this report, although of course many are planned and some won't happen. This boom is mostly because it is difficult, expensive and/or impossible to build adequate new housing in Silicon Valley and San Francisco, so the tech industry has to overflow to someplace, and for the moment the preferred overflow location is Austin.
Most of the projects are in the 30-to-50 floor range, which is similar to what we see in Houston, so Austin is subject to the same height limits that apply to new Houston buildings.
I agree with Kbates2 that the rendering is a much more attractive building than Houston's JPMorganChase or Wells Fargo buildings.
Urbanizzer's 1/7 photo shows there is something going on at the site. It seems strange there is no mention by the ABJ.
Edited February 1, 2021 by MaxConcrete
strickn
Kbates2 is right to use supertall to mean buildings in the 300-600m range. But Transco/Williams at 275m still has more appeal than this one.
This 98 Red River design is like a joke that's especially edgy because it's at the exact present edge of political correctness but if you were to hear the comedian again in a decade it would be a useless joke. The best possible outcome is that, if equally tall towers are ever built near I-35 on the old waterfront newspaper headquarters site, then they will form a visually dramatic river gateway together with this.
Edited February 1, 2021 by strickn
On 1/28/2021 at 2:12 PM, kbates2 said:
Edited February 2, 2021 by H-Town Man
Houston19514
On 1/31/2021 at 8:18 PM, MaxConcrete said:
I'm not sure exactly why, but I've been pretty skeptical about that 98 Red River project since it first came to light. Perhaps the Austin Business Journal shares my skepticism (or knows even more).
28 minutes ago, Houston19514 said:
Two sides of that for me: On one hand, even when I searched online to find more about it, the articles that I found had a HAIF poster as their only source. On the other hand, that poster was Paco Jones who is almost always correct.
We have some pretty detailed renderings including architectural plans, an FAA request, and signage up at the site. Short of a catastrophe, it looks like this is happening.
This one is fresh and it's modern, but for Texas' new tallest, I'm disappointed. Would look great complimenting an iconic piece like the Petronas Towers, Willis Tower, Freedom Tower, or the Burj Khalifa. The base is also this giant plateau. And why do mixed-use buildings have to ensure the onlookers know that each use is clearly displayed & separated in the design?
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On 11/11/2020 at 7:28 PM, Yoda said:
Will be interesting to see if both 80 Red River (64 fl, 802') and 98 Red River (74 fo, 1025') both get built.
Is this the only render with both skyscrapers shown?
Edited February 9, 2021 by tigereye
HoustonIsHome
On 2/2/2021 at 11:40 PM, H-Town Man said:
Any chance that it gets scaled down?
Austin has been pretty hot the last few decades but that's a ton of huge buildings going up or in the works
Feb 16 The title was changed to 98 Red River: Mixed-Use Building to be Austin's First Supertall
A lot of site prep underway.
Here is a picture of the site from CC showing the piece of the Iron Works parking lot retaining wall that was taken down.
CREguy13
So did this project get its financing?
Location:Heights | Space Suburbs
Officially permitted.
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arche_757
Location:Lurking about
It's just so out of scale with most everything else there - and the facade will hopefully look better than the renderings present it. It will be to Austin what Taipei 101 is to Taipei.
Did HKS really get this gig? I mean really? KPF or SOM weren't interested? Woulda been a better design from either of those firms. Gensler too.
On 3/28/2022 at 10:23 PM, arche_757 said:
It won't end up being out of scale. The ~600' and ~650' towers in this rendering have broken ground. The 800'+ Ritz-Carlton tower is scheduled to break ground late this year. There is also a 775' Conrad Hilton tower out of view at stage left scheduled to break ground later this year.
Edited March 31, 2022 by The Hills
Still looks out of scale. It's not the height, it's the size of the floor plates. Perhaps from other angles it will be less oversized?
No more out of scale than the Williams Tower lol.
Maybe, I think Williams is a bit more elegant. This is a massive building compared to the neighbors, and it's in the downtown area.
My opinion. I still think it's out of scale.
.Did HKS really get this gig? I mean really? KPF or SOM weren't interested? Woulda been a better design from either of those firms. Gensler too.
KPF is working with HKS on this.
A lot of Austin's buildings tend to not take up a whole city block. If this was plopped in Houston or Dallas the floor plates would be considered average.
The design does make it stand out, I like it a lot. My only minor gripe is that I wish the midsection was more cohesive with the top portion, a bit awkward from some angles.
Really? How are those two firms working together on this project? One architect of record, the other the designer? One doing interiors? I am curious. KPF a consultant?
I don't think it's bad, just out of scale with the other buildings.
The long term street closures around the site for the start of construction are scheduled to begin in three weeks (May 14th) per a right of way closure permit filed with the City of Austin. Construction trailer offices have been moved onto the surface parking lot across the street from this project. The surface lot is owned by the same developer and that site will become a Phase II project.
Here are the construction offices that were installed this week. Photo by agsatx88 on SSP.
Nov 26 The title was changed to Waterline: Mixed-Use Building to be Tallest Tower In Texas