Breitbart defence of 'indefensible'
A further development of the Milo Yiannopoulos issue discussed here yesterday:
Politico: Breitbart editor-in-chief calls Yiannopoulos comments 'indefensible,' but mounts a defense
Breitbart's editor-in-chief, Alex Marlow, called Milo Yiannopoulos' comments about pedophilia "indefensible," "troubling" and "upsetting" on the company's daily radio show Tuesday morning.
But Marlow also defended the Breitbart senior editor, columnist and overall provocateur as a victim of a coordinated attack whose "appalling" words needed to be understood in the context of Yiannopoulos' personal history.
Milo's personal history is controversial. It is ironic for Breitbart to be complaining about 'a coordinated attack'.
"It was something that was a total surprise to people in the Breitbart organization that there is video that surfaced that appeared to show him justifying sex between an adult and a minor, at least in certain circumstances which was very troubling and upsetting," Marlow said on the radio show.
"He seemed to be speaking from personal experience as a gay man; he also revealed he's a victim of child abuse himself. He himself told me he's never had inappropriate contact with a minor since he was an adult. … it's all very upsetting and something we take very seriously at Breitbart.
We've been going through things and trying to figure out the best way to handle this, but the bottom line is the comments on the video are not defensible, and I think most people [agree] with that."
It's not clear what Yiannopoulos' future with Breitbart will look like.
Internally at Breitbart, tensions are high.
The site, which became a champion of President Donald Trump during the campaign, now has its former chairman Steve Bannon as Trump's chief strategist in the White House.
Some Breitbart staffers, speaking on the condition of anonymity, say they are incredulous at the site's silence to its own employees about how they're handling the Milo situation. There's no indication, aside from Marlow's public comments, that employees have been addressed directly.
Several have expressed a willingness to leave the site should the company not part ways with Yiannopoulos. (Washingtonian reported about six have said they will walkout).
Marlow said answers will come later on Tuesday when Yiannopoulos holds a news conference in New York City to discuss his future with Breitbart. The news conference is being organized by a public relations company different from the one Brietbart uses.
Notably, Breitbart's website has not written one thing about Yiannopoulos this weekend.
That appears to be correct. I have just done a search:
They don't even say that CPAC has dumped him as a speaker.
by Pete George on 22nd February 2017 • Permalink
Tagged Alex Marlow, Breitbart, CPAC, Milo Yiannopoulos
Posted by Pete George on 22nd February 2017
https://yournz.org/2017/02/22/breitbart-defence-of-indefensible/
RNZ poll of polls
Andrew Little versus kaupapa Maori
/ 22nd February 2017
The golden boy no longer
There's only so many times you can say "I was just joking".
Nelly Smickers
When they covered this subject on *FOX* last night, they played a clip of Milo saying that he "……thanks *Father Michael* for the way he's turned out"
That's like me saying I should thank *Father O'Flaherty* for wanting a good spanking 😡
He's Gone.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/02/21/milo-resigns-breitbart-news/
Comments on that story are Gold.
Jedimaster Trump✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ Sam-I-Am ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ🇺🇸 • 15 minutes ago
He was fired like a dog! Breitbart could have asked him to say, but clearly they decided to no platform him. Sad.
Also, this is just what we need. One more unemployed immigrant in this country.
herpderpalerp Sam-I-Am ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ🇺🇸 • 13 minutes ago
Milo was a plant. The MSM will now shift to associating Milo and his comments with Breitbart, Bannon, and the alt-right. Plenty of people, not on here, saw this coming from a mile away. Did you really think Milo was "our guy"?
Here is another prediction. He will be picked up by a left wing media outlet within a month. He has done his duty and will now be brought back into the fold. Mark my words.
I liked listening to him but always wondered if he would eventually say something stupid that would see him cross a line. People with high profiles need to learn that being arrogant, or even childish at times may alienate allies and limit appeal to those who take life seriously all the time. A complicated man perhaps and I'm sad to see him gone. When formally attired he also dressed beautifully which I like although his casual attire was a bit metro sexual for me.
We tried watching a couple of Milo's *YouTube rants* but gave up on them after only a few minutes…..as Wayne said, if he wanted to hear the 'F' word every 10 seconds he'd go visit his mother.
Alan Wilkinson
Reminds me of working with a drainlaying gang when I was a student. The F word (in every variant of its declension and conjugation) comprised about thirty percent of the tea-room conversation although I am pretty sure most speakers were entirely unaware of it and regarded it as a punctuation mark. I guess they thought there was something odd about my dialect but couldn't quite pick it.
Wayne was saying his mum was an apprentice drainlayer back in the late 60's…..before she met his father ❤
I would bet you were not so …argumentative …then!
I knew when to shut up, B. Actually after a couple of weeks I was one of the old hands on the gang. The turnover was huge. So was the Fijian boxer who had a disagreement with the boss who chased him down the trench with a digger. The boss ate raw lemons for lunch. Went into hospital with an ulcer soon after, I heard. Happy days.
Gezza
I remember that guy. God he was a wanker. 😡
Should we be told what he actually said or are we supposed to swallow that as gospel?
Go find the video like everybody else did 2 days ago.
No, can't be bothered. I'll just warm my hands on everyone else's outrage.
You shouldn't do that if you don't know what you're warming your hands on.
I do. I'm warming them on PC idiots.
You're warming is condoning pedophilia.
Your grammar is as crappy as your logic.
Hey I saw someone else use the term Civil War today, unfortunately it was one of the basement dwellers on 4chan.
The Lefties are onto it too, AC:
http://www.salon.com/2017/01/30/a-tale-of-two-countries-thanks-to-president-trump-america-is-now-engaged-in-a-civil-war-of-sorts_partner/
GI Joe undies must be flying off the shelves.
High Flying Duck
The video is not pleasant viewing, although according to the man, it has been "selectively edited". Even so it cuts close to the bone – and beyond – on a topic where little leeway should be given.
His statement in defense if you wish to read it:
The full video is around too, there's practically no difference in the two, except that one is 4 times longer.
Yes – seen that one. He does say the age of consent is correct and should not be changed. But he appears to contradict that in a number of his other comments.
His actions in outing Paedo's and comments in other forums back up his assertion that the video is not representative of him or his opinions.
Whether he deserves permanent exile for this, or a period of shame and remorse is debatable. I've only seen a few of his videos and he is provocative, but not quite the fascist he is painted as being. His biggest crime seems to be not following PC dogma. That and being quite unlikeable.
He certainly goes out of his way to offend and on this occasion – albeit over a year ago – overstepped 'acceptable' indecency by a margin.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/20/14673036/milo-yiannopoulos-cpac-pedophilia-tape
That vox thing is a pretty brainless PC rant, AC. Did you find it in any way interesting?
Nothing I didn't know, I was looking for the original video – wanted to know how long someone had been sitting on it for.
Your thought's on this one, PC rubbish, or a step too far.
http://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2016/12/16/breitbart-s-milo-yiannopoulos-doubles-down-harassing-transgender-university-wisconsin-student/214849
I'm presuming there's some history to that bout of bitchiness and gay exhibitionism but in politics ridicule is par for the course. If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen.
That was a student, not a politician. I don't know how you can condone that sort of behaviour.
Really? Milo implied the student had been in a political campaign for transgender rights. That was the point of my comment that there must have been some history to it.
The trans student had actually left the university at the time of the speech. They had also sued the university to give them access to girls toilets and locker rooms.
Interestingly the same issue has arisen over here this week with a female student appalled that a trans boy was allowed in the girls toilet. I'm worth Milo on that particular issue.
Not sure how you can say little leeway can be given when age of consent laws vary over the whole range 12-18?
As I've said before, age seems to be extremely arbitrary and I believe the law should focus on harm, not age.
Well it's 16 where he was a 13 year old, and between 16 and 18 where he was talking about it.
So what? Aren't you allowed to notice it isn't the same everywhere and hasn't been the same at all times?
Are you going to argue in Milo's defence? I don't want that conversation if you are.
I might if I knew what you thought needed defence. What exactly did he say that you take exception to?
Haven't you watched it yet?
And pardon me if I take a jaundiced view to claims that sexual laws are sacrosanct and eternal. When I was young homosexuals were criminals and abortion was illegal.
I watched a bit of it but it was garbled and boring so I gave up on it.
He said that grown men should be able to have sex with 13 year olds because coming of age relationships are wonderfull and enriching for children , that when female teachers have sex with 13 year old students the student is the instigator as they are in their prime at that age, that men shouldn't be kicked out of universities for groping women.
I'd need to look at the exact wording and perhaps context. Sometimes students are the instigator in relations with teachers. I suspect that what happens after some of these relationships are exposed is more damaging than the sexual part and I wonder how much of this iceberg is never seen in court. I think human relationships are infinitely complex and variable and I don't make blanket judgements.
That is actually what Milo was arguing too. He took it further saying older men and younger boys can be a great match which is where the distinction gets blurry with the power imbalance and the inherent issue of essentially an older child giving informed consent.
Not too sure which way around the power imbalance applies these days. If the young one decides to open hiser mouth the old one goes to jail. And I have no clue as to whether homosexuality should have the same consent issues and solutions as heterosexuality or not. Seems to me a lot of people think they can solve other people's problems without necessarily knowing anything about them.
Milo seems to be following in Oscar Wilde's footsteps – first the fame and shock value, then the tragedy. Gay flamboyance can be a fragile thing in this world.
patupaiarehe
You're on a hiding to nothing Al, just tell them you're wrong, and go to bed knowing you aren't. I was 'raped' at the age of 15, by a very attractive 30 year old woman, who should have known better. I never told anyone about it at the time. The only thing I regret about it now, is not going back and doing it again… 😉
Exactly, patu. It's all those cases that never make it to court with a woe is me performance that leave me sceptical.
/ 23rd February 2017
Funny how times have changed Al. I felt really guilty about it, for months afterward, even though she started it! Nowadays, a young man could set his phone down beside a situation like that, on record, and become a legend in his own lunchtime…
A good friend of trump
This textbook SJW.
Here is a transcript of what he actually said:
http://heavy.com/news/2017/02/milo-yiannopolous-pedophilia-transcript-pederasty-video-full-sex-boys-men-catholic-priest-cpac-quotes/
Was he defending pedeophilia? No. He was stating facts.
Fact: Age of consent is arbitrary. Some people are mature enough before 16 to have sex, others are not. The law has decided that most people are mature enough at 16 to have sex. Personally I think most people at 16 are not mature enough and the age of consent should be raised to 18.
Fact: Younger man – older man relationships are common in the gay community.
That's not even half of it.