[14:31] ai2097: Hate to be Mr. Negative... but shouldn't the details about what is being provided be pinned down first? Is this intended to provide software/tools, a community, the latter built atop the former (which is the impression I'm getting), or something else?
[14:33] ai2097: KillerX: Then you're providing infrastructure.
[14:33] ai2097: The HR department works for a company.
[14:33] ai2097: This "HR department" isn't tied to a single project.
[14:34] KillerX: ai2097: A little info on yourself would be helpful?
[14:38] SumitDatta: ai2097 think of this is the following way : Google SoC lists projects from many orgs ... it helps students to look around and join some project. these are projects not just related to sf or freshmeat.
[14:38] ai2097: Freshmeat, AFAIK, doesn't host anything.
[14:39] ai2097: So, why can't we just convince freshmeat and/or sourceforge to add "help wanted" sections to each project?
[14:40] ai2097: But it's up to FreeBSD to do two things: 1) know they need a fonts guy, and 2) put out a request for it.
[14:41] ai2097: You're assuming that projects can figure out (1) in the first place, and have a problem with (2).
[14:41] ai2097: From what I can tell, if a popular project has a problem or a need, word -tends- to get around.
[14:42] ai2097: That assumes too much.
[14:42] ai2097: I'm doing a research paper on a tangentially related issue, and I've come across a study conducted in 2003 about OSS projects and quality.
[14:43] ai2097: Nonsense! Use research, and figure out who your target audience is -- then cater to the needs of that audience.
[14:46] ai2097: Zhao, Elbaum; 2002. Quality assurance under the Open Source development model.
[14:48] ai2097: "Documentation did not play such a dominant role.
[14:48] ai2097: plan releases (including dates and content).
[14:50] SumitDatta: ai2097 do you think SoC is of no use then ?
[14:51] ai2097: No, I don't think it's of no use, but it will only reach projects that either already know where they're going, or that don't exist (i.e., there's a technology hole), or that google itself (or someone elese) has architected extensions that it wants to see done.
[14:52] ai2097: Why does Apache need you to do that?
[14:55] ai2097: Google is in a unique position to make itself known. I can appreciate the value of centralization, but how do you expect to become the next "SoC"-type setup when Google already exists, and (if I understand correctly) is what you're trying to emulate?
[14:55] ai2097: So, back to "why not integrate it with freshmeat"?
[14:56] ai2097: I have another study centering around the motivation of OSS contributors, too. Let me see if I can dig up a link.
[14:57] ai2097: Yes, but FM is already well-known, and already has a proven infrastructure in place. If you can extend that, instead of creating your own system, it will be more beneficial to everyone.
[14:58] SumitDatta: tell me something : when you visit FM homepage what do you see ?
[14:59] SumitDatta: if i am right i see lists of projects as in how and what they do.
[14:59] SumitDatta: we are concentrating on "how you can plug in to the project of your choice easily"
[15:00] ai2097: Well, how do you associate with a project?
[15:02] ai2097: Ah, but therein lies the rub: what motivates people to participate in an OSS project in the first place?
[15:03] ai2097: You're assuming that people want to come in out of the blue and contribute their time to any project that needs help.
[15:06] ai2097: In other words, the mindset is "Gee. I really want to contribute to OSS, and I have . But I don't know who needs me!"
[15:07] ai2097: Actually, I should phrase that in the form of a question; is that statement correct?
[15:09] ai2097: So, shouldn't it be tied to the bug tracker, then?
[15:09] SumitDatta: ai2097 how can a student think of tracking all 400 + CMS in PHP ??????
[15:10] ai2097: Really? I can't seem to throw a stick without hitting projects that need some form of help or another.
[15:11] ai2097: But then, I'm being argumentative for a purpose, too ;).
[15:11] ai2097: SumitDatta: About your previous comment, regarding "tracking all 400 + CMS in PHP" -- I don't understand what you mean.
[15:12] SumitDatta: "ai2097: So, shouldn't it be tied to the bug tracker, then?"
[15:13] SumitDatta: which project's bugs should he track to find the PHP + Atom combination ?
[15:13] ai2097: Oh, that's different.
[15:13] SumitDatta: there are so many CMS in PHP out there..
[15:13] ai2097: What I mean is, since it's "what skills are needed now," the best way to integrate the -demand- side would be to put it in the bug tracker.
[15:15] ai2097: But then, that would require any projects that want to participate have a bugtrack system that allows the devs to specify what kind of skills are required to fix the bug.
[15:17] SumitDatta: you mind that ?
[15:17] KillerX: Sumit, did you copy yesterdays conversation with Leslie?
[15:17] SumitDatta: do you have ?
[15:22] ai2097: I'm going over to a different screen; just say my name if you need me back.
[15:22] ai2097: That was fast :p.
[17:00] tgc: i wasent sure we even applied... but good!
[17:07] tgc: brainlessV2: interesting, but hasen't this been done before?
[17:09] tgc: is it intended to be SoC projects, or all FOSS projects?
[17:12] tgc: isn't wikipedia huge?
log : So that people with similar query will get an idea ?
[17:22] brainlessV2: but before that happens we need to put up our plans etc.
[17:23] tgc: brainlessV2: good luck! wiki on SF is painfully!
[17:24] tgc: which wiki will you use?