Re: cicerone imposter (Post 3652463)
1.When we drive a car, we drive on the roads that we think best meets our wishes.
When computer drives a car, it drives on the roads that it thinks best meets its wishes.
If computer was programmed to get there as fast as possible you can call this his wish and it will use the fastest route. (sports car in a race)
If computer was programmed to get there using the slowest route
you can call this his wish and it will use the slowest route. (sports car in a race hacked by a rival driver)
But it's still programmed by some human to do so, and it cannot deviate from the program. A human driver can deviate at any time and at any way they wish on the way to any destination.
2. A computerized vehicle can only go in the direction that has been pre-programmed.
Human operated vehicle can only go in the direction that has been pre-programmed.
Wrong; a human can change their mind and deviate from their orginal plan.
3. When a human decides to go someplace, they have many options in arriving at their destination. They can take the shortest route, the longest route, the scenic route, or with any numbers of detours.
No he can't. Whatever decision that human makes at that moment was the only possible decision he could have made at that moment.
Wrong: humans can change their mind any time they wish - to continue on their journey, to stop and rest, to take a detour, or go back home - at random.
Complex process of deciding where to go that was going in his brain was governed by the laws of physics directing electric impulses between neurons. laws of physics define EXACTLY what will happen with any part of the universe in the next moment no metter if this is electrical impuls in your brain or yourself as a system.
Wrong: physics has nothing to do with the subjective choices humans make when driving a car or walking.
The process of deciding which route to take can be simply programmed into computer.
If there is no rain take the scenic route.
If you need to be at your destination in less then 10 minutes take the fast route.
If you have 30 minutes to get to your destination and you fuel level is lower then 10 galons deatour to the pump.
Yes, it must be pre-programmed into the computer. It cannot make any decision not pre-programmed, but humans can change plans at any point on the journey.
3. Yes, somebody had to "program" what the computer does.
Just like the nature programmed you what to do and gave you a subprogram which changes your program all the time.
"Nature" doesn't program humans. It's based on our genes, culture, and environment.
So behaviour of our NPC can also be changed over time by another subprogam. Then subprogam might at some ppoint change thos "1000 gold coins" into "10 silver coins", or it can add another if statement to that NPC furthermore changing its behaviour.
You lost me.
4.The "consequence or reward" is pre-programmed by some human. It does not decide on its own; the programmer programmed it that way.
Who's the programmer and the programmee! LOL
You can imagen that your brain has acctually two program. One that decides for you and the other that constatly is reprogramming the first one telling him what rules to use. This is like have program and programmer tide to each other and the programmer is constantly changing the program.
Show me some real life examples of this.
Mathematical Models of Neural Networks are oding the same thing. They are always equiped with so called Back propagation algorithm whose goal is to change/reprogram neurla network after each of its decisions. This allows NN to adapt, learn and change just like your brain does.
Mathematical models do not explain human behavior.
5. All the scenarios were established, and the response(s) already programmed.
Wrong: who established "all the scenarios?"
Not if you have another programm which constantly change NPCs behaviour which is what happens in brain.
You lost me again.
6. We're talking about behavior of humans and computers; not whether we have physical limitations.
Agreed; that's the reason it's not about physics.
Because of physical limitations/laws we have our choices limited to single one at any given moment.
Correct; I haven't been able to fly on my own yet.
7 . Yes, and they are all programmed by humans.
What is: "they are all programmed by humans."?
Mostly computer programmers; they're all humans, aren't they?