My Grandfather Syd Parkin is in this photograph. I believe he may have been in the Durham Light Infantry, 16th battalion serving in North Africa, Italy and Greece. Anyone recognise the Cap Badges as they don’t look like DLI?
Photograph and details courtesy of Simon Parkin.
I have just looked at a (brief) history of the DLI. In WW1 they fought in the tranches in France. In ww2 they took part in the north Africa campaign moving on to Italy and the Balkans. The uniforms look WW1 and the suggestion that it was taken at a training location is shared with the Northumberland Fusiliers is plausible.
https://www.durham.gov.uk/dlicollection may help.
Apparently 16DLI was a reserve battalion that did not serve overseas, but they did share a depot with Northumberland Fusiliers in Newcastle. That could be why we so various cap badges ?
Durham Light Infantry, 16th Battalion
New Army Service battalion
Before the First World War began in August 1914, the Durham Light Infantry, County Durham’s own infantry regiment, was made up of nine battalions each of about 1,000 men. There were two Regular battalions of full-time professional soldiers, many of whom came from outside the North East of England; two Reserve battalions of part-time volunteers and ex-Regular soldiers; and five Territorial Force battalions of part-time volunteers centred on key County towns. There was also a Depot or headquarters shared with the Northumberland Fusiliers at Fenham Barracks in Newcastle upon Tyne.
By the end of the war in November 1918, the DLI had grown to 43 battalions, as new Reserve, Service, Territorial, Young Soldier, and other battalions were formed. Of these 43 battalions, 22 served in war zones from the Western Front to the North West Frontier of India.
The 16th Battalion DLI was formed in Durham in October 1914, as part of Kitchener’s New Army, with volunteers from the 3rd Battalion DLI, after this Reserve battalion had been moved from the DLI’s Depot in Newcastle to reinforce the North East’s coastal defences. A first draft of 485 men from 3 DLI was soon joined by other drafts of recruits from the Depot.
Training began under the command of 50-year-old Lieutenant Colonel Edmund Grimshawe, late of the 3rd Battalion. But there was also time for sport and, in February 1915, 16 DLI fielded a rugby team in a match with Durham School. The battalion won.
However, unlike the DLI’s other New Army Service battalions, 16 DLI (and 17 DLI which had been raised at Barnard Castle at the same time) was not destined to serve overseas. Instead, in April 1915, 16 DLI became a Reserve battalion and was soon moved first to Darlington, and then, in September, 1915 to Penkridge Bank Camp near Rugeley in Staffordshire. There it remained as a training battalion regularly supplying drafts of soldiers for service overseas.
Whilst at Rugeley, the Reserve companies of the 22nd (Pioneers) Battalion DLI joined 16 DLI. These companies had been destined to form a 24th Battalion, when the Pioneers went on active service overseas, but 24 DLI was never formed.
Following the introduction of conscription in 1916, in place of the old system of regimental reserve battalions, 112 new Training Reserve battalions were created to train the recruits. So, in September 1916, the 16th (Reserve) Battalion DLI lost its link to the DLI and became the 1st Training Reserve Battalion. Finally, in late November 1917, the battalion was disbanded.
Contributed by Durham County Record Office
Going by the uniforms I suspect this picture is probably more WW1 era..?
Looking closely on an HD screen it seemed to me that the badges are not all the same. Some look more oval, others round and some possibly the DLI. They all look relaxedso it may have been taken at something like an R&R facility.
Do you have your Grandfathers service records from the MoD https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records
Definately not a County Light Infantry regiment cap badge as far as I can tell, no bugle horn, But not enough clarity in the image to see the cap badge or the collar dogs.
The DLI and Green Howards (Yorkshire) had a anchor shaped badge. The badges in the picture appear block shaped. If they are likely to have been a northern england regiment I would suggest the Northumberland Fusiliers- the capbadge and landyards fit the bill.
I’d suggest you put it on facebook. There are a couple of very knowledgeable ex-army on there.