  Using the Karpman-Solov''ev quasiparticle approach for soliton-soliton
interaction I show that the train propagation of N well separated solitons of
the massive Thirring model is described by the complex Toda chain with N nodes.
For the optical gap system a generalised (non-integrable) complex Toda chain is
derived for description of the train propagation of well separated gap
solitons. These results are in favor of the recently proposed conjecture of
universality of the complex Toda chain.
