  The work is devoted to the development of the aerogel Cherenkov counters with
the light collection on wavelength shifters and PMTs (ASHIPH). The ASHIPH
system has been developed for the KEDR detector. Tests of the counters have
been carried out on the Dubna accelerator, the pi/K separation obtained is
about 4 sigma.
  The ASHIPH system is suggested for the PEP-N detector.
