  We present a scaling analysis in the 1-flavor Schwinger model with the full
overlap and the rooted staggered determinant. In the latter case the chiral and
continuum limit of the scalar condensate do not commute, while for overlap
fermions they do. For the topological susceptibility a universal continuum
limit is suggested, as is for the partition function and the Leutwyler-Smilga
sum rule. In the heavy-quark force no difference is visible even at finite
coupling. Finally, a direct comparison between the complete overlap and the
rooted staggered determinant yields evidence that their ratio is constant up to
$O(a^2)$ effects.
