  The theory of hole superconductivity proposes that superconductivity is
driven by lowering of quantum kinetic energy and is associated with expansion
of electronic orbits and expulsion of negative charge from the interior to the
surface of superconductors and beyond. This physics provides a dynamical
explanation of the Meissner effect. Here we propose that similar physics takes
place in superfluid helium 4. Experimental manifestations of this physics in
$^4He$ are the negative thermal expansion of $^4He$ below the $\lambda$ point
and the "Onnes effect", the fact that superfluid helium will creep up the walls
of the container and escape to the exterior. The Onnes effect and the Meissner
effect are proposed to originate in macroscopic zero point rotational motion of
the superfluids. It is proposed that this physics indicates a fundamental
inadequacy of conventional quantum mechanics.
