  Calculations of B(E2)'s and quadruplole moments in the g_{9/2 region below
^{100} Sn are hampered by the fact that the inclusion of the
g_{7/2}configuration leads to model spaces that are too large to handle. We
therefore examine lighter nuclei if the fp region where one can easily include
all the orbitals, f,{}_{7/2}, p_{3/2}, p_{1/2}and f_{5/2} . We perform such
calculations but then take a step back and exclude the f_{5/2} orbital. By
comparing the 2 calculations we can hope to get insight into the importance of
the missing spin-orbit partner in other regions.
