  Both sigma and kappa are well established from E791 data on D->3pi and
D->K-pi-pi$ and BES II data on J/Psi->omega-pi-pi and KKpipi. Fits to these
data are accurately consistent with pi-pi and Kpi elastic scattering when one
allows for the Adler zero which arises from Chiral Symmetry Breaking. The phase
variation with mass is also consistent between elastic scattering and
production data.
