 [dark music]
 ♪ ♪
 - I remember him saying,
 "I have a knife at your neck.
Don't make a sound.
Get up and come with me."
 - Authorities
 in Salt Lake City, Utah,
 say 14-year-old
 Elizabeth Smart
 was taken from her bedroom
 in the middle of the night.
 - We're doing everything
 we possibly can to help you.
 - The family members
 would walk out of the doors
of the search center
and just see
 the waves of volunteers
 that would come.
- I remember begging him
to leave me alone,
 to not touch me ever again.
 He was the master.
I was the slave.
He went ahead and raped me
yet again,
and there was just nothing
I could do about it.
I mean, I couldn't run away.
I couldn't fight him off.
 I'd already tried.
There was just nothing
that I could do
until it was done.
 - Richard Ricci
 was one of the people
 that was given to us
 on the list
as having worked
around the house.
 - We did feel like he must've
had something to do with it.
- The helicopter felt like
it was right above us,
 and the trees
 were blowing down.
 I just kept waiting for guys
 to jump out of the helicopter
and come and rescue me,
but that never happened.
 - I would apologize to her
 if I saw her,
that I didn't recognize
the pain she was in,
that I didn't take action.
 - I started to wonder,
 "Will I ever be rescued?
 "Maybe I don't.
And maybe I die."
 ♪ ♪
[truck horn blaring]
 - One of the things
 about the Elizabeth Smart case
 that bothers me the most and
 makes me sick to my stomach
are the Monday morning
quarterbacks,
the experts
and the average citizen
who says,
"Why didn't she run?
 "She was 14 years old.
 Why didn't she escape
 when she could?"
 First of all, this guy
 broke into her house
 in the middle of the night
 and kidnapped her
 and told her every single day,
 "If you run
 or you try to run,
 "I will go back
 and kill your little sister.
 "I will kill your mother,
 "because I can
 get in your house,
 and I already did it."
 Plus, he starved her,
 raped her
 almost every single day.
You don't have a right
to question
why this girl
didn't run away.
 This girl needed somebody
 to save her.
 [sirens wailing]
 - In August 2002,
 the Salt Lake City
 Police Department
 received a call from someone
 at the public library.
And that caller said
that Elizabeth Smart
was at the library.
 You know, just come
 pick her up.
[horns honking,
traffic whooshing]
 - Mitchell started talking
 about the coming winter
 and what we would do.
 One day, we went down
 to the Salt Lake Library
 to look into moving
 to California,
somewhere where we could
survive the winter.
 And so we were sitting
 at a table in the library,
 and he was looking
 at a big map of San Diego
and the surrounding area
when the homicide detective
approached us.
 He said,
 "I'm a homicide detective,
 and I need to ask you
 a few questions."
He never said Elizabeth Smart.
He just kept asking questions
like, "Well, there's,
you know, a girl missing.
"We got a phone call.
 "It's really important.
 "You know, if I can just
 see her face,
 then I can tell everyone else
 it's not her."
 And while that was going on,
Wanda Barzee had her hand
just clamped down on my leg.
It was like,
"You say anything,
"you are gonna regret it.
You're gonna be
in so much trouble."
 And for so long,
 I had been told,
"I'll kill you,
I'll kill your family
if you ever do or say anything
I don't want you to do."
That threat just seemed
so real to me
that if I spoke out,
he'd kill me.
 ♪ ♪
 The detective wanted
 to see my face,
 but Mitchell just kept on
 falling back on,
"The only people that will
ever see her face
in her lifetime are me,
her father, and her husband."
 And while all this
 was going on,
 there was just
 this raging battle inside me
 'cause on the one hand,
I mean, here's a detective,
like, feet away from me.
He's just right there.
 What if I did say something,
 what if I did do something
and the police officer
didn't believe me?
What if...
 I'd probably never see
 the light of day again.
 At that moment in time,
I remember just feeling like,
"He really will kill me
if I say something.
"He really will kill my family
if I say something.
"Nobody stopped him
from kidnapping me.
 "Don't do anything that's
 gonna jeopardize your life.
"Don't do anything
that's gonna jeopardize
"your family's life.
"But this is a trained officer.
He's gonna see through it.
It's gonna be okay."
 Mitchell just kept on
 falling back on,
 "I'm sorry, that would be
 against our religion,"
and was so convincing
that the detective
finally did turn away.
As the police officer
walked away,
I thought,
"I should've screamed.
"I should've yelled.
Maybe I--maybe I
would've been rescued."
 Seeing him walk away
 just kind of felt like
the last nail
in the lid on my coffin.
 Had I been rescued
 at the library,
that would've saved me
about six months of captivity.
[crow cawing]
 Brian Mitchell was very proud
 of himself afterwards.
 I mean, he was shaken.
 I mean, it scared him,
 but he just was very...
very proud and very pleased
with himself
for outsmarting
a homicide detective.
- The detective that was there
had to balance how much
reasonable suspicion and cause
did he have to believe
that that was in fact Elizabeth
and interfering with
their right
to practice their religion.
- He said that if
a policeman went around
forcibly removing veils
from people's faces,
they wouldn't be a policeman
very long in our society.
 ♪ ♪
 - As soon as that detective
 was out of the door,
 Mitchell was like,
 "That's it."
 He's like, "We're leaving."
 He's like, "We are getting
 out of here.
"You're not coming back down
to Salt Lake
until we leave Salt Lake."
 ♪ ♪
 At that point, Barzee was left
 to look after me every day
 while he went out to go...
he called it ministering,
but it was just begging
for money, panhandling.
 He'd go out every day
 and beg for money.
 [camera shutter clicks]
 And it took two or three weeks
until he had enough money
to pay for all three of us
to get bus tickets
to San Diego.
 ♪ ♪
- They say that
a lot of marriages
do not survive
an abduction
because it just tears
families apart.
 - Do we move on
 with our lives
with our five children
even though it's--
there's a hole in our hearts
that can never be repaired?
Or do we just keep
pushing forward
and not ever,
ever give up?
Elizabeth, if you can hear us,
we love you, Elizabeth.
We haven't forgotten,
and everybody wants you back.
 - Please.
- And we won't stop
until you're home.
There were times
between the two of us,
Ed and myself, when, you know,
I would feel one way
and he would feel the other.
And so, you know,
many, many times
when situations like these
happen in a marriage,
it usually
breaks a marriage up.
[tape rewinding]
 Won first place
 in the state fair.
 It's so exciting.
 [harp music playing]
 I would take them to school,
 and I would talk to them,
 and I would, you know,
 help them through it
because we didn't want it
to break our family up
or our marriage up.
- John Walsh was very kind
and allowed me to call him
at different times,
and he said,
"Ed, you've got
these other kids,
"and you've got
this wonderful wife,
and, you know,
don't lose it all."
 - He said, "This is
 devastating our family.
 I'm an emotional wreck."
 You've been there."
I said,
"Ed, you have to saddle up.
"You have to put your pants on
every day and go out there,
"go to work, feed your family,
keep your family together,
"and be available to the media.
"And remember one thing:
"Elizabeth
is the missing child.
 Elizabeth is the victim."
 And as it went on
 and got longer and longer,
 they got more and more sad,
 more and more depressed,
 but they stayed strong
 and kept the search alive.
 - But when these feelings of
 desperation came to one of us,
the other would say,
"No, we can't give up,
"because we haven't found
a body.
 "Nobody has told us otherwise.
 There is hope."
 [somber music]
 ♪ ♪
 - So you've moved on,
 but you're reliving this
through a book,
through a speaking tour. Why?
- The more
that I started speaking,
the more I had people
coming up to me all the time
saying, "I was raped."
"I was kidnapped."
"This happened to me."
"This happened to me."
 And I had known
 the statistics for years,
 but putting faces
 to those numbers,
 that's what really made
 all the difference for me.
 ♪ ♪
- Thank you so much.
- Thank you.
 [indistinct radio chatter]
 [eerie music]
 ♪ ♪
 - I don't think
 there ever was a day
 that I didn't think about,
 "When am I gonna eat next?
 When am I gonna drink next?"
 It would usually be
 a day or two,
 we'd go without food
 before he'd head down
 to Salt Lake
 to look for food,
 and sometimes it was longer.
I was always relieved
whenever he left camp,
'cause that meant
that I'd have at least
12 hours where
I wouldn't be raped.
 They were many times
 that he'd come back
 and he'd got a gallon
 of cheap wine
 and we'd be drinking,
 and he'd be yelling,
"I'm gonna [bleep]
your eyes out."
My momentary reprieve
of being raped or lectured
 or emotionally or mentally
 abused was at an end.
 [dramatic music]
 - Police investigating the
 kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart
 are questioning a man
 with a long criminal record.
 They're calling his alibi
 "suspicious."
 - I'm familiar with Mr. Ricci
 from past law enforcement
 experience.
I was shocked that he was
actually working in this house,
and I asked Ed
if Ed knew who this guy was.
And Ed assured me that--
he said, "Well, I know he's--
he got into some--
a little trouble
and he was in jail."
And I said, "Well, no.
"And it wasn't
a little trouble.
It was a lot of trouble."
 And they actually, I think,
 tied him in
 to three other break-ins
 in that area
 where items were taken
 from homes.
So nobody would be surprised
if Mr. Ricci was a suspect
in a burglary,
but it's quite a jump to go
from being a house burglar
or a thief to, you know,
"I'm going to kidnap,
you know, a 13-,
14-year-old child."
 - We couldn't just let Ricci
 go until he was cleared.
So he remained
under suspicion.
He was in prison at the time
on a parole violation.
 - Ricci was the best guy
 we had, and we pursued him,
but we didn't neglect all the
other leads at the same time.
 - There's some frustration on
 the part of the investigators
 just because of the volume...
 - We had a huge volume
 of leads,
all of which
were low-probability leads.
 - We've done a lot of work
 on this case.
 We've talked to a lot
 of people so far...
 - We had literally hundreds
 of investigators and officers
and, you know, agents
that were out
following those things up.
 - Thousands of leads
 called in, but sadly, he says,
 none so far has been...
- None of those leads
ever panned out.
 [indistinct
 police radio chatter]
 - We were generating
 our own leads,
 and there were thousands
 of those
in addition to the thousands
that were coming in
from the public.
 - Calls are coming in
 to Salt Lake City dispatchers
 at a rate of 150 an hour.
 - Do you see someone that
 might match the description?
- I remember hearing,
"They think they found
a body,"
or, "They think
they found the place
where she was decapitated."
- There were several times
when bodies were found
out on the Great Salt Lake,
there's one up in Brigham,
 where you get the call,
 and you're just going,
 "Is this gonna be
 the answer?"
 You know, "We found
 the body of a dog
 that we thought
 might be a person,"
and it just--
it's just dark, dark stuff.
 ♪ ♪
 - Initially, I wanted to know
 about every single lead,
and then it got
to the point where...
that roller coaster
was so crazy
 that you couldn't stand it,
 and it was almost like,
 "Unless it's really,
 really significant,
don't tell me."
 ♪ ♪
 - It became very frustrating
because we wanted to get
Elizabeth back so badly.
 - Any new information
 this morning
 on the search for Elizabeth?
 - Really not at this time.
 We wish there was a lot more.
 Um...
 I remember talking
 to one of the officers
 and just said, you know,
"I'll do whatever I need to
to find Elizabeth."
And he patted me on the back
and said,
"You know, I think
what you need to do
is go get some sleep."
 - With all the leads we got
 in those first few months--
 and we had, like, 39,000
 different leads
 that had been called in--
we did not have
anything solid to speak of.
- At that point, though,
at the end of August of 2002,
there was Ricci,
and then there wasn't really
anybody else.
 - And you know that I think
 you're involved in this.
 I wanna hear,
 if you were in there
 and you were doing this
 and she woke up,
 what would you do?
 And you're telling me--
- I'm not gonna sit here
and [bleep] tell you, pal.
 - Sit down.
 Sit down. Sit down.
 It's never gonna stop.
 It's never gonna end.
 It's just gonna go on.
 - [bleep], I'm at
 a [bleep] loss, dude.
 Who sold
 my [bleep] shoes?
 [bleep].
 [dark music]
 - Richard Ricci
 is in critical condition
 after undergoing surgery
 for what appears to be
 a brain aneurysm.
 - Ricci was rushed
 to a hospital
 after having breathing trouble
 in his cell.
 - The police are saying
 that it's very important
 that Richard live.
 Do you agree with that?
 - You know, I think
 that he is a key factor
 in this investigation.
 And last night, when I heard
 that this had happened,
 I just couldn't believe it.
- Richard Ricci maintained
the entire time
that he had no involvement
in Elizabeth Smart's case--
or abduction.
 - Accused of stealing
 $3,500 worth of items
 from the Smarts' home
 well before Elizabeth
 disappeared.
 Among the items:
 jewelry, cash...
 - He was interviewed
 multiples times.
 His house was searched.
He was charged
with the burglaries.
He was, you know, charged
with a parole violation.
 - Doctors have performed
 surgery on his brain...
 - And there was a lot
 of pressure put onto him.
- And we still didn't have
direct or circumstantial
evidence to implicate him.
 ♪ ♪
 - The headline
 in the newspaper was,
 "Ricci's death
 big blow to investigation."
 From an investigative
 standpoint,
I was hoping we could work
on some real suspects.
 - I think a lot of other
 people jumped to a conclusion
 that he was one of the best
 things going at the time
 and maybe
 he would've done this,
but Richard Ricci
was just not smart enough
to have pulled off
something like this.
He'd be the guy that'd
get hired to drive the car
or do something like that,
but to put something
like this together
and kind of--
it just didn't make sense.
 - My lowest point
 was when Richard Ricci died
because by the time that he--
at the time that he died,
I didn't think
that he had done it.
 So I thought the kidnapper
 was still out there.
 - Utah Police had repeatedly
 called Richard Ricci
 the top potential suspect
 in her disappearance
 before he died.
 - "Salt Lake Tribune"
 had written a story
 after Richard Ricci died
 saying that
there's scant doubt
among the lead investigators
of the Salt Lake Police
that it was Richard Ricci
and they're trying
to put it to bed.
 It was a dark time.
 - I didn't believe
 that guy did it,
and when he died in jail
of an aneurysm
and they were ready
to close the case,
I thought, "Nobody's ever
gonna find this girl."
 ♪ ♪
 - It was about four months
 from the time
 that I had been kidnapped
 to the time we left.
 Going to Southern California,
 it almost felt like I was
deserting my last hope
to be found,
because who would ever find me
in California?
 Nobody.
 [dramatic music]
 We got on the bus,
 and so I was
 next to the window,
and then Mitchell
was next to me,
and then Barzee was in the row
in front of us.
 I think we got
 to Las Vegas at midnight.
 We had to switch buses,
 and then we made it
 to San Diego
really early the next morning.
[birds calling]
 We took the bus from the end
 of the line into Lakeside.
 ♪ ♪
Majority of the time
while I was in Lakeside
 was spent in this
 fire swamp-ish kind of place.
It looked like the fire swamp
from "Princess Bride."
 ♪ ♪
 I think we had been there
 a couple of days.
 He came into camp,
 and he said,
"It's important that all of us
"partake in alcohol.
"We're in a new place.
"There's gonna be
new trials ahead.
 It's important for us."
In the beginning,
I'd just drink
the bare minimum
that I was forced to drink,
but then it eventually got
to a point where...
it's not that it made me
forget or made it--
I don't know--
made me feel like it was
less shameful,
but it just numbed me
a little bit more.
 So there was some times
where if alcohol was
available, then...
fine.
[owl hooting]
 [suspenseful music]
 I just withdrew into myself
 so that I didn't have to feel,
 'cause it was just too hard.
 For me, it was shutting down.
 It was just knowing
 that if I fought back,
 it was only gonna be worse.
It was just lying there,
letting him do whatever it was
he was gonna do
because it would end faster.
 [somber music]
 ♪ ♪
 - Elizabeth Smart was
 kidnapped from her home
 almost four months ago.
 It's now just about one month
 until her 15th birthday.
 - I was the only eyewitness,
 and, you know,
 I was constantly thinking
 about who it could be
and if I had missed
anything else
that I hadn't told the police.
 - Mary Katherine
 was our other victim.
 That's the way we saw it.
What she had experienced
and that terror
and what had happened
with her sister
being snatched away in there
was a huge,
horrible experience for her.
 - We were always told,
 "Do not harass Mary Katherine.
"Don't sit there and ask her,
you know,
"what she knows or what
the individual looked like
"or anything like that.
Let her come forward
on her own time."
- The fact is that she did
bring up the lead
and it was the thing
that made it come together.
 [tense music]
- I made my dad come
and tuck me in
every night into my bedroom,
 and one of the nights
 that he came in,
 I was thinking
 of who it could be.
The name Emmanuel
popped into my head.
 I could hear his voice
 in my head,
 just the conversation
 that he'd had with my sister.
Over and over, I kept repeating
that scenario in my head.
- And she said, "Dad,
I think I know who it is."
And I'm sitting there,
"Who? Who?"
She said, "It was that man
who came over
"and helped on the roof
that we--
you know, that homeless person
from downtown."
 ♪ ♪
 - We were, like,
 walking downtown, and...
my brothers came up
to my mom,
and they were talking
about someone.
And then we went over
to this guy,
and she gave him money, and...
was talking to him,
and that's--
honestly, that's all
I really remember of him.
It's pretty vague.
 - I remember that
 very clearly.
 I had all six children,
 and we were downtown
 shopping for school clothes.
 And the girls wanted
 to stay in one mall.
The boys wanted
to go to the other.
So I said, "Okay, you boys
go there, see what you want,
"and then come back and get me
 and then
 we'll all go together."
 - I remember running over
 there with my brother Andrew.
You know, we looked
at some shoes for a minute,
and then I wanted to run back
and tell my mom,
"Hey, let's get these shoes."
And as we cross the street,
I remember seeing this man,
and he said, "Hey, do you
have any money?"
And I said, "No."
 - He didn't have the beard,
 definitely seemed clean-cut,
seemed like just a guy
that hit a rough patch
and was in need of some work.
 - So I dug in my purse
 and pulled out--
 I think it was $5,
and I gave it to him,
and I said,
"Well, if you need some work,
"you know, my husband,
you know, could probably
give you some work."
- The next time I saw him,
I think he was working
at our house.
- We worked on the roof,
and he talked about himself
being a born-again Christian
and how he would go around
to homeless shelters
preaching the word
and trying to help people,
and he was giving me
quite the line.
 - I do remember asking him
 what his name was.
 And he said, "Emmanuel."
 And I thought,
 "Well, okay,
that's fine, if that's
what you want to be called."
 - I worked with him
 for a couple of hours
 in our backyard.
He just kind of came across
as this very...
orthodox religious person,
 you know,
 just kind of down on his luck.
- He just seemed like
a normal guy, in my sight,
being a 12-year-old
at the time.
- And then that was
the last we saw of him.
- He was supposed to come back
the next day and didn't.
 - Since he was up there
 working for a day,
he knew where all
the windows were
 and he knew
 where all the doors were.
 - When Mary Katherine said
 it was Emmanuel,
it should have
changed everything.
It should have been
earthshaking.
And part of this strange story
is that it wasn't.
 - There was four months
 between the time she was taken
and the time
that Mary Katherine says,
"I know who it was."
 - By the time October
 rolled around
 and all of a sudden
 there's this name,
 it was like, "Well, this guy
 isn't on anybody's list."
 So when it was brought up
 that she now thinks
she remembers the name--
or the voice
and it was this Emmanuel
and it was a guy that helped
come and cut down the--
I think it was
a Russian olive tree.
 What Mary Katherine
 actually said,
 she didn't say she was
 positive this was the voice.
 She said, "I think that might
 be the voice that I heard."
And my investigator
very pointedly asked her,
"Do you want that
to be the man?"
 And she says,
 "Well, if he took Elizabeth,
 I want him to be the man."
- So there's actually
a lot of doubt
whether Emmanuel
is gonna pan out
to be a real substantial
lead or not.
 - They did take her in
 and reinterviewed her,
and they told us
not to go public.
They were very careful,
so we kept it private.
 The police said that
 "If it is Emmanuel,
"we don't want to scare him
away and push him underground.
Let us find him."
- If you release the composite
and you talk about it,
it's certainly gonna
generate leads.
 But by generating those leads,
 it's also gonna warn this guy.
 And if he goes to ground
 or he leaves,
 then even if you get him
 identified, you're--
 it's gonna make it far tougher
 to locate him afterwards.
 ♪ ♪
- It was a tough time,
because you'd be asked
by media,
"Is there anything new?"
 We wanted so badly
 to come out with it
 and talk to the media
 and get the media involved
to help with it.
It was extremely frustrating.
- The police are telling us,
you know,
they're on Richard Ricci.
They'll try to find Emmanuel
and don't get
in the way of it.
- I'm just sitting there,
"Come on, guys,
"let's get the right one.
"What is it?
"And if you can't do it,
you know, we should be able
to go out and do it."
 - And there were people
 who were looking for him.
 Cordon Parks
 and Bill Silver did look.
 The people who were
 leading the investigation
were Richard Ricci advocates.
 - She heard the voice,
 and whether or not
 she recognizes it or not,
 I'm not gonna clarify.
 - Mick Fennerty told me,
 "Chief Rick Dinse
"is not gonna believe
it wasn't Richard Ricci
until Elizabeth walks up
and tells him so."
- We were looking for a body
at that point.
 - This was not going
 to turn out good.
And every homicide investigator
I've known
throughout this country
 felt exactly the same way.
 - Ed Smart reaches out,
 and he says
the Salt Lake City Police
believe that Richard Ricci
holds the key
to Elizabeth's whereabouts,
 that he's dead, he probably
 raped and murdered her
 and buried her in the desert,
 and that we should have
 a memorial service."
 And Lois is saying,
 "For the good of the family,
 "maybe we should
 close the case.
 Should I do that, John?"
 And I went, "I don't know
 what to tell you.
"The likelihood and the odds
are against you
"finding Elizabeth alive,
that's a fact.
"But if you truly believe
she's alive
"and you don't want to give up,
give me something.
I've got to have
something new."
 Their young daughter
 has now said that she believes
 that Ricci wasn't the guy
 in there that night,
 that it may have been
 another guy
 that did some work
 on their roof,
 an itinerant guy that worked
 at a homeless shelter,
 and he may be a suspect.
 - All of us are going,
"Oh, my gosh.
John Walsh just broke that."
- About a month later,
we just got to the point
as a family that we've got
to go out with this.
 - Well, it wasn't an easy call
 for some of the other members
of the Smart family
to finally push it
and organize
that family press conference,
because the law enforcement
was not on board with that.
That was a pretty tense time.
 - He was going
 about the country
 from homeless shelter
 to homeless shelter
preaching
born-again Christianity.
 We were criticized hugely
 by law enforcement,
and yet within two weeks,
a lead came in.
- The great thing
was when Tom Holbrook
and his wife, Lisa,
Brian David Mitchell's sister,
told the police who it was.
- I had this very overwhelming,
powerful feeling
that I needed to hear or know
what that press conference
was about.
 I started doing
 a Google search
 and quickly found an article
 from the "Deseret News"
 that talked about
 the press conference...
 - He was going
 about the country...
 - That he went by the name
 of Emmanuel
 and that they were looking
 for him for questioning.
I had this overwhelming feeling
that that is Brian.
 - Open up.
 Open up.
 Brian and Wanda.
 - I handed the article
 to my wife, and I said,
 "Lisa, you need to read this."
- We forgot our soap.
 - Forgot your soap, huh?
- She said to me
something like,
"Do you think
this is Brian?"
- Lisa Holbrook
calls the police,
and they find out
who Emmanuel is.
- And I talked to her,
and she said that she believed
that the Emmanuel we were
looking for was her relative,
and she was right.
 - Cordon Parks, he goes and he
 gets a picture from Albertsons
 where, on August 27th,
 Brian David Mitchell
 was arrested for stealing
 $52 worth of beer
and batteries
and a flashlight.
And they took a picture of him,
and they said, "Who are you?"
 And he says,
 "Well, I'm Emmanuel."
 And then finally
 they nailed him down.
 He says, "Well,
 I'm Brian David Mitchell."
 Cordon Parks makes
 his own flyer that says,
"Wanted: Brian David Mitchell,"
and sticks it up there
where every cop can see it,
where the two cops who would
have arrested Mitchell
would have seen it.
 And the superiors tell him
 to take it down from there
 where everybody can see it
 and keep it up
 in the detectives' room
 and to change the heading,
 "Wanted for questioning,"
 not "Wanted."
 - There still wasn't
 a lot of support
 at the management level
 both at the FBI
 and the Salt Lake City Police
to releasing the photo
that we had of Brian Mitchell.
 People just didn't
 want that to happen.
- We're talking about a guy
that goes
in an Albertsons store
and he can't even shoplift
without getting caught
 and he's going to be
 this master kidnapper?
 And so I can see
 where they may hold back,
saying, "I'm not--
This--uh-uh.
 We're not going
 down that route."
[birds calling]
 - He would always claim
 that going down into the city
 to minister spiritually
was so demanding
and how blessed
Barzee and I were
 to be able to stay
 in each other's company
 up at this
 hidden camp all day.
But we'd be left up starving.
[crow caws]
 And so one day,
 he just got up and he said,
 "Well, I'm going down
 to minister,"
and he just left.
 Whenever he left, I mean,
 he was gone a good long time.
 So the day passed,
 and we went to bed.
 And the next day came,
 and I just remember
 thinking,
 "Man, I'm so hungry."
 Barzee, she's saying,
 "He's gonna come back.
 He's gonna come back."
 Well, he didn't come back
 that night.
 And the next day came,
 and we'd already been
 about three days
 without water.
 I mean, neither one of us
 could hardly sit up.
 And that was kind of that time
 that I was thinking,
"Oh, my gosh, after
everything that's happened,
 "I'm gonna die of starvation.
 "I'm gonna die of thirst.
 "Please, let me have
 a really good sense of humor
in the next life."
 I remember going
 and checking the hole
where...
our feces was
because I knew that there was
some grapefruit peel
 that had been thrown in there
 a few days ago,
and I thought, "Well,
maybe that'll be okay,"
but it wasn't.
It wasn't okay.
 ♪ ♪
 By the time I got back
 to the tent,
 I was so lightheaded.
 I remember just lying down,
 just trying to think of things
 that I had been grateful for
 because I didn't want
to die feeling angry
and bitter.
And so I started to think
of my life before
 I had been kidnapped and
 how wonderful that had been
and kind of felt like I was
finally at peace with my maker,
 at peace with myself.
 ♪ ♪
 This is it.
 This is the end.
[flies buzzing]
[thunder booming]
[rain pattering]
But then it started raining.
 We got up, and we ran outside,
 and we caught the rain
 in tarps.
I remember just being
so grateful for that rainwater,
and even a couple days after
when it looked like
there was stuff growing
in the water,
I was still
so grateful for it.
 ♪ ♪
And all of a sudden,
we hear singing.
 Off-key, off-tune,
 and he's got leftover KFC,
and he sits down,
and he starts talking,
and both Wanda and I
could hardly sit up.
 We were so hungry.
 He talked about how he'd
 gone down into Lakeside,
 stolen a couple beers
 and drank them,
 how he broke into a church,
then how the next morning,
the police came
 and he had to go
 through booking
 and they ran
 his fingerprints
and nothing came up
and how he gave them
this fake name
and how they then said,
well, it's gonna about a week
before he could go
before the judge.
 - I'm gonna release you
 from custody.
 I'm gonna put you on a grant
 of probation.
 But if you're going
 into those churches,
 you're breaking the window
 and you're going in there
 because you don't
 have a place to live,
 that likewise could be
 a violation of the law.
 You understand that?
 - I do, Your Honor.
 And that was the worst night
 and the worst week
 of my whole life.
 For the first time
 in 22 years,
 I got drunk that night.
 I'm deeply sorry,
 and nothing like that's
 gonna happen again.
 - He said, "And although
 it was comfortable
 "and I was well-fed
 and had a roof over my head,
 "it was a reminder that I need
 to remember who I am
 and I need to remember
 who you are."
And then he continued
down his usual,
"Oh, you're this,
you're that, blah, blah, blah,"
 and with alcohol, with sex,
 being raped,
 everything that he'd say--
 you know,
 "You need to experience this.
 "You need to descend
 below this
before you can rise above it."
 [dark music]
[siren wailing]
- When Lisa Holbrook calls
and they find out
he's Brian David Mitchell
 and they run who this guy is,
 they found out that yeah,
 "Brian David Mitchell
 is the guy we busted
 for shoplifting
 four months ago."
 - Law enforcement worked
 with the Holbrooks.
- I think there was still
this mentality
that Mitchell
couldn't be the one.
- And then that's when
Mick Fennerty stepped in
and decided,
"Well, if they're not
"going to go public
with this,
I'm gonna go public with it."
 - I gave a copy of that photo
to our media representative
and had him send that
to the media unit
 back at FBI headquarters
and give it
to "America's Most Wanted."
 - Now, we got
 a late breaking case
 we need your help on tonight,
 and our Tom Morris
 has the story.
 - We started out
 the investigation
with bad information
and nothing much to go on,
and it never got any better
for us, really,
until Ed and John Walsh
 broadcast that story
 about Emmanuel.
 - This is the only person
that Mary Katherine
has come forward on.
- His ex-wife, Debbie Mitchell,
had saw his picture
come on the screen,
 and she just almost
 started hyperventilating.
- "America's Most Wanted."
 - Brian David Mitchell's
 ex-wife
 calls "America's Most Wanted"
 hotline and says,
"He goes by the name Emmanuel.
"He's a street preacher.
"He's a con artist.
"He's got some psycho
girlfriend or wife
"or whatever she is
named Wanda Barzee.
"While I was married to him,
he molested my daughter,
which was his stepdaughter,
and she's suicidal now."
Wow, bombshell.
[thunder booming]
 - Could he be involved
 with the abduction
 of Elizabeth Smart?
 - Yes.
 - Yes.
 - He's like a Dr. Jekyll
 and Mr. Hyde.
- The whole thing
starts to explode.
 Wanda's children,
 Derrick and Mark Thompson,
 and their sisters,
 they believe
that Brian David Mitchell
could do something.
 - Just a whole flood
 of information came in
 on Brian and Wanda.
And attempts were launched
to locate them.
- We had heard all these
rumors about him being
at Souper Salads, and we went
to all three of them.
And we talked to the one
out in Fort Union Boulevard,
and Lindsey Dawson, she says,
"You know,
 he does come in here,"
 and she thought
 that they were, you know,
 some kind of religious cult
 or something.
 And then she says, "You know,
the last time
they were in here,
 there were three of them,
 same two and one other girl."
And I fell to my knees.
I--honestly, that,
to me, was as emotional
as when she was found.
 [soft music]
 - I will never forget
 my older brother Tom
coming to me and saying,
"Ed, you know, she might--
she might still be alive."
And I said, "Yeah.
I think so."
 ♪ ♪
 - He does think it's time
 for us to move again,
but he has no plans of
returning back to Salt Lake.
He was talking about these
big cities like New York
 and Boston, and I just
 remember thinking,
"How can I convince them
to return to Utah?"
 I thought so much about how he
 manipulated people around him,
 how he got what he wanted,
and I finally just kind of got
to the point where I thought,
"You know what? This can work
for him so well for so long.
"Surely it can work for me.
 "I mean, I've been a victim
 of this for nine months.
 Just let this work
 this one time."
I remember just thinking,
"I've got to try."
 And so I remember facing him
 and just saying,
 "Oh, I just have
 this feeling like...
like we're supposed
to go back to Salt Lake."
"I know--I know
that sounds so crazy.
"I mean, that--
God would never speak to me.
"He'd never condescend
to speak to me.
 "But do you think
 that you could ask God
 "if we're supposed
 to go back?
 "'Cause I know--
 I just know he'll tell you.
"I mean, you're his prophet
"and you're His servant,
"and I just know
He'll tell you.
Could you please ask Him?"
Well, I think, to Mitchell,
in that moment,
he must have felt like,
"Oh, yes."
 Like, "She's mine."
I remember turning
to him and saying,
"Well, I think
it's really important
for me to experience
hitchhiking."
 So we got the dollar wig
 and the dollar sunglasses,
and that was gonna be
my disguise.
 The following morning,
 we left.
 It was very hard to get rides.
Even without our robes,
I think we still
looked strange.
 We'd walk miles and miles,
 and I'd be hungry
 and I'd be thirsty,
 and I remember thinking,
"Maybe this wasn't
a good idea after all."
[horn honks]
 "We could just die out here
 and no one would ever stop
 or care."
 [dramatic music]
 - "The Salt Lake Tribune"
 wrote a story on their B1 page
 that said, "Smarts
 are frustrated by police,"
 and I said, "Police are
 too vested in Richard Ricci.
 "They're covering their ass,
"and the most important lead
in this story
"is Brian David Mitchell.
We got to find him."
 And that was the lead story
 the next morning,
 which was March 12th.
It was the day she was found.
[truck horn blaring]
 - We took buses
 into Salt Lake City,
 and there was a young man
who started to question
Mitchell about me,
about, "Why are you
having her wear a wig?
"Is it part of your religion?
She's young.
"She obviously
doesn't have a gray hair.
It's obviously a wig."
Mitchell just did not
like that at all.
 He had both Barzee and I
 off that bus
just as soon
as the bus stopped.
 ♪ ♪
Once we were in Sandy,
we were walking up
State Street.
 - 911.
 - Yes, I think I see
 that Emmanuel
 they're looking for,
 and he's with two ladies.
- I received a call
that two different people
had noticed suspicious people.
 - One lady was driving away.
 She said to her husband,
 "Call
 'America's Most Wanted.'"
 - "America's Most Wanted."
- The other lady,
her husband says,
"Don't get involved,"
and she says,
"You're gonna be sleeping in
the garage for the next month.
I'm calling
'America's Most Wanted.'"
They made the call.
 ♪ ♪
 - My dispatcher said,
 "Hey, Vic, we got a report
 "of some citizens calling in,
 some suspicious people
 walking down State Street."
 [indistinct
 police radio chatter]
"The male is matching
the description
of Emmanuel that was put out
on 'America's Most Wanted.'"
 [siren wailing]
 ♪ ♪
- A whole bunch of police cars
pulled up next to us.
I don't remember
how many it was,
but it felt like
there was a lot of them.
 - The man identified himself
 as Peter Marshal,
and he said that they had
given up
all earthly possessions
 and that they were just
 messengers
 of the Lord Jesus Christ,
so they had nothing
that they could give me
 that would identify
 themselves.
 - Officer Jones was talking
 to the male individual.
 My intention was drawn
 to the female.
 But when I took
 a closer look at her,
 I recognized her as possibly
 resembling Elizabeth Smart.
 - She kept kind of
 looking over towards him.
He was telling
Officer Rasmussen at the time,
"You're not allowed
to talk to her.
 She's my daughter.
 Don't talk to her,"
trying to get us away
from interrogating her
on the street.
- There was nothing at all
in the database
for the three names and dates
of birth that we were given.
 - She was extremely nervous,
so nervous to the point
that you could see her heart
beating in her shirt,
in her chest,
it was beating so hard.
- I'd been so isolated
and so manipulated
and controlled for so long,
it really was scary
to be interrogated
by police officers.
 Finally one officer said,
 you know,
"I think we need to just
separate her a little ways
so we can start
questioning her."
I was supposed to say
I was raised in Florida
with my mother
and I'd only joined my father
and stepmother this past year.
 - Her story wasn't adding up.
I just told her
I didn't believe
that was her
correct information
and we believe that she's
not being truthful with us.
 I asked one motor officer
 to retrieve a flyer
 that I knew was back in our
 investigations department
 on Elizabeth.
- Brian Mitchell's
off to the side,
still kind of talking,
still trying to be--being loud.
 You could tell that she was
 very nervous.
 She kept kind of
 darting her eyes
 or gaze back
 to that direction.
- Officer Howe delivered
the flyer to me.
 I held it right next
 to Elizabeth's face,
and we both said,
"That's you."
 And she says,
 "That's not me."
 [indistinct
 police radio chatter]
 - Of course I wanted
 to be rescued,
 but I had spent
 the last nine months
being very abused emotionally
and sexually and mentally.
- We told her,
"You're safe now.
"It's over.
All you have to do is say
you're Elizabeth Smart."
- She denied it
for about 45 minutes
adamantly that she was not
Elizabeth Smart.
 - At that point,
 I still felt very threatened.
My captors are both right there
with those same threats
and the same pressures
that "If you don't do exactly
"what we've told you,
exactly what we've prepared
"you for,
we're gonna kill you.
 "And we're gonna kill
 your family,
"and nobody stopped us
from doing whatever
"the hell we wanted before.
Who's gonna stop us now?"
 - Elizabeth was denying
 that she was Elizabeth,
 so we loaded up,
 put Brian in one car,
Wanda in another car,
Elizabeth in, I think,
Officer Jones' car.
 - They immediately
 turned me around
and handcuffed my hands
behind my back.
 And in my mind,
when a person is handcuffed,
they're in trouble.
- I said, "Elizabeth,
just for your peace of mind,
"for the sake
of your family,
just tell me that you're
Elizabeth Smart."
- What if I said
I was Elizabeth Smart,
they didn't believe me,
they released me back
to my captors?
Would I ever see
the light of day again?
 - Right before we were
 getting her into my car,
 Sergeant Quezada held her out
 and said,
 "You know, this is your one
 last chance to tell us
 on your own free will
 who you are."
- You could tell
she was kind of
getting a little bit
emotional.
 I asked her,
 "Are you Elizabeth Smart?"
 And she says, "Thou saith."
She said the words,
"Thou saith."
- For the previous
nine months,
we didn't speak like
"you" and "yours."
It was "thee" and "thy"
and "thou,"
and he'd say, well,
"Thou sayest,"
like, "You've said it.
"That's what it's gonna be.
That's how it is."
 And I gave that answer
 because Mitchell
 was not that far away,
but if he heard me answer
in that way,
he might not know
what I was answering to.
- I looked at Officer O'Neil,
and we looked at each other,
and I said, "We'll take that
as a yes."
- And I believe
all the other officers
that were surrounding her at
that point felt the same way.
- Officer Jones came over
and contacted me and said,
"Okay, she's given up
the false name.
She admits that she's
Elizabeth Smart."
[siren wailing]
 - She asked me one question
while she was in the back
of my patrol car,
and that was,
"What's gonna happen to them?"
- In my mind, I was thinking,
"If they put me
with them again,
I might be killed.
 I might be hurt."
 I felt like nobody
 was on my side.
 - Wanda, Brian,
 and Elizabeth were all put
 in different
 interrogation rooms.
 I got to talk to Elizabeth.
 She said she was
 Elizabeth Smart.
 And I asked her what happened.
 And she went through
 and she described
 her kidnapping
 in good detail.
 What's your fist name, sir?
 - Emmanuel.
 - Emmanuel?
And I knew that we had
good cause
to arrest Brian and Wanda
for aggravated kidnapping
 and aggravated sexual assault.
 [dramatic music]
 - I remember
 just sitting there,
 just thinking,
 "What is gonna happen next?"
and the door bursting open
without any warning,
and there was my dad.
- And there across the way
sitting on the sofa
is Elizabeth
with her arms folded.
- I don't think I knew
how to react because I knew
so much had changed.
I knew so much had happened.
- There was just not this
response that I would just,
you know, feel the excitement
of, you know, reuniting.
- And it really wasn't until
he came running over
and started hugging me
that I felt safe to react.
- I held her back and I said,
"Elizabeth, is it really you?"
And finally she said,
"Yes, Dad."
And then she starts to cry,
and we're just a mess,
a mess of happiness and joy.
- I was just so thrilled
to be able to look at her
and see her and hear her talk
and know that she wanted
to be back with us as a family.
- It made me feel like
this place that I'd been
retreating inside to
for so long,
 I didn't have
 to retreat there anymore.
 It's gonna be okay.
 - 15-year-old Elizabeth Smart
 was found alive today.
 - Brian David Mitchell
 and Wanda Ileen Barzee
 have now been booked
 on charges.
 - You're not Jesus Christ.
 - No, I'm not Jesus Christ,
 but I'm--
 - You're a prophet.
 - I'm his servant.
 - You're his servant.
 - I'm the Lord's servant.
 - An FBI agent, Jeff Ross,
 and I interrogated Brian.
 - Tell us about how you came
 to have Elizabeth Smart.
- And as soon as we were
getting close to the details
of him admitting that he had
entered that house unlawfully
and taken her by force,
then he would wing out
and he would get quiet,
defensive,
 and retreat into his
 religious mode.
 - Get thee behind me, Satan.
 - I'd spent about eight years
 working in mental hospital
 in Ohio,
and during my time
working there,
I had come in contact
with plenty of people
that would pretend
to be crazy.
 And within the first
 few minutes of interacting
 with him, that was
 the impression that I got.
 This was all just a big show.
- The only admission
that he ever made to us,
at one point,
he said that he had,
"I plundered Ed Smart."
 And that's as close as we
 could get him to a confession.
 [somber music]
 - The miracle
 that has been brought to us,
that has been brought
to our family...
Words cannot express
how grateful we are
 for the prayers
 around the world.
 Do miracles still exist?
 And the answer is yes.
 - When I really finally felt
 fully safe
was when I made it home
and I was there with my parents
and my brothers and my sister.
 - Elizabeth and Mary Katherine
 just hugged
 and were just bawling.
 I mean, it was just
 a big hug,
and Elizabeth
didn't want to let go.
 - That night when Elizabeth
 came back,
 a number of us
 went up to her house.
When I received that...
received that hug from her,
that embrace, and it was--
it became tangible.
It became real.
She was back.
 - I flew out there same day,
 and she said,
 "I want to thank you.
 Can I hug you?"
And I said, "We finally
got somebody back,
got one back alive
to her loving family."
 ♪ ♪
 - I really did feel
 like a princess.
 I'd gone from that morning,
 being with my captors,
 to all of a sudden at the end
 of the day, being home.
I got up to go off
to my bedroom to go to bed,
and my parents just kind of
looked at me for a second
and like, "Well, you know,
do you want to sleep in here?
 We could have a big sleepover,
 the whole family."
- She said, "No, I want
to go back to my bedroom.
And don't worry.
I'll be here in the morning."
 - We had offers of therapy
 coming from everywhere.
 Some people were saying,
 "Oh, she needs
 to be hospitalized.
 "She needs to be debriefed.
 "She needs to be taken away
 from society for a while
and, you know, worked with
till she's ready to come back."
 [somber music]
 It was really important
 to allow me
to make my own choices
at this point in time
because the previous
nine months, I hadn't
been allowed to really
have control over my life.
- She had no say
in anything for nine months.
We have to at least
honor her wishes.
 - That was hugely empowering
 for me
 that I wasn't forced
 to go speak to someone
 or was hospitalized.
 My parents
 became my therapists
 and who I talked to if I ever
 needed to talk to someone,
 and that worked for me.
But I do believe in therapy.
I do believe it
does a lot of good
and it helps a lot of people.
And I realize
that I'm extremely fortunate
because I have such a
wonderful, supportive family.
Not everyone has that.
In fact, most kidnappings
and abuse that goes on,
 it's--they're not
 from strangers.
 It's from someone you know.
I am heartbroken for anyone
who has to struggle with that
because I don't know
how you would do it.
 ♪ ♪
 [laughter and cheers]
 ♪ ♪
 It was about eight years
 from the time I was rescued
to the time that my case
actually came to court.
 No court case
 should take eight years.
- We tried as parents
to keep Elizabeth
out of the limelight
as far as speaking
 or doing a lot of interviews
 'cause the trial
 was still there.
 And we didn't wanna do
 anything that would
 jeopardize that.
- I wasn't sure that she was
ready to have the attorneys
and people asking her
so many questions.
You know, "Why didn't you
run away?"
 Or, "Why didn't you go
 when you could have?
 - Brian David Mitchell
 and his wife, Wanda Barzee,
 are undergoing
 competency evaluations
 to see whether they'll
 be able to stand trial.
 Neither has entered
 a plea as of yet.
 - This is a guy who had been
 a street preacher,
 was proclaiming that he had
 revelation from God.
 - I can only answer according
 to the spirit of truth,
 which is in me, which
 is the spirit of my Lord.
- So both the defense
and the prosecution
fully agreed that there needed
to be competency hearing
because if there was not,
this would go on to appeal.
 - Has anybody ever come
 to the conclusion
 that you have
 a mental illness?
 - They have not.
 - Brian Mitchell
 had some wild,
irrational ideas that seemed
like delusions
but were not the product
of mental illness...
 - You know, they're gonna
 find me competent.
 They're gonna find me
 incompetent.
- But more a cocky,
arrogant, narcissistic
religious individual with
a lot of religious language.
 - I abide in him,
 and he abides in me.
 We are one.
 [dramatic music]
 - The state case stopped
 at competency,
at competency.
They both went
to state mental hospitals
 until such time as they were
 deemed competent
 to stand trial.
- And it wasn't until 2010
that they go forward
with the federal trial
because of all the delays
in state court
and him being declared
incompetent to stand trial
while he's sitting
down at the state hospital
 watching "Charmed" on TV
 every day.
 - The man charged with
 kidnapping Elizabeth Smart
 is now set to stand trial.
 The judge in the case ruled...
 - He gave himself away enough
so that by the time he was
tried in federal court
that they just weren't
buying his act anymore.
- If I were to point
to any particular reason
for his prompt conviction,
 I would say
 it's Elizabeth Smart
 who deserves all the credit.
 - I said, "Elizabeth,
 that jury is not gonna
 let you down.
"They will see
through his [bleep].
"He's singing in court.
He's spinning around.
"He's calling out to Jesus.
It's a charade.
 You stand up there and go
 toe-to-toe with him."
- He picked the wrong girl,
because she is extremely bright
 and she was
 a marvelous witness.
 - Almost nine years ago,
 the kidnapping
 of 14-year-old Elizabeth...
 - 12 jurors found
 Brian David Mitchell guilty
 of kidnapping and...
 - Elizabeth Smart smiled
 today in court
 when that guilty verdict
 was read.
 This is the moment
 she has been waiting for.
 - I was pretty nervous
 going into court,
 but I remember when I did
 see him and he was shackled,
I realized that he did not have
power over me anymore,
that I had gone on
with my life.
 I hope that not only is this
 an example that justice
 can be served in America
 but that it is possible
 to move on after something
 terrible has happened.
 [camera shutter clicks]
 - The man convicted
 of kidnapping Elizabeth Smart
 will spend the rest
 of his life in prison.
- I was grateful that,
you know, he's going
to be in prison
for the rest of his life.
 - He would not be out
 on the streets and be able
to hurt another girl
or young boy or whatever.
 - There will be no sentence
 appropriate
 for what this guy did.
He's sitting in a cell
somewhere watching color TV,
getting three squares a day,
okay?
Is that punishment for what
he did to Elizabeth Smart?
 I don't think so.
[birds chirping]
 - One of the biggest
 reasons why
I want to share my story
in this way
is because I have met
so many other survivors,
so many other victims
who can't share their story,
 who are scared
 to share their story.
- Thank you. It was very nice
to hear you speak tonight.
 - I want them to know
 that they're not alone.
 I want them to know
 that life can be wonderful
 and that no matter
 what's happened,
 life is still worth living,
 that you can
 find happiness again.
 It may not be easy.
 In fact, it probably
 won't be easy,
 but it'll be worth it.
- Elizabeth has had a strength
and a desire
 to see that survivors
 don't remain victims.
- She is the one that says,
"We will survive.
We will fight back.
We have worth."
 She's helped us change laws.
 She got married
 to a wonderful guy.
And she is the poster girl
for survivors.
 - But you have had the
 strength and the resilience
to make this work your life.
How difficult...
 - Getting married
 and having a family
 was something I'd look forward
 to my whole life.
When I was kidnapped, I felt
like that was taken away.
 - I was very concerned
 about her relating to boys,
 that she wouldn't want to date
 or go to the school dances,
 but it never seemed
 to be a problem,
because she went
to every dance
and had lots of friends,
and...life was good.
 - I was able to go back
 to high school.
 I was able to go on
 to college.
I mean, I was able
to say, you know,
yes to boys that I wanted
to go out with
or no--I could say no to boys
that I didn't want
to go out with.
 ♪ ♪
 Matthew and I were both at
 the Missionary
 Training Center.
 Both of us had been assigned
 to service missionaries
in the Paris, France, mission.
 He didn't know
 anything about me.
 I was just another girl,
 and he genuinely liked me
 for me.
I never had to wonder
if he liked me
just so he could say
he was friends
with Elizabeth Smart
or knew Elizabeth Smart.
 - I mean, I heard whispers
 here and there
 but nothing that
 I really paid attention to.
She actually opened up
to the whole classroom
about her experience.
It was probably
a couple weeks into it.
 I'm pretty sure most of them
 already knew the story,
but it was news to me.
It was the first time
I'd ever heard it.
- He and I were the only two
going to Paris.
 Boy missionaries serve
 for two years,
 and girl missionaries
 just serve for 18 months.
He looks over to me,
he's like, "So...
will you go on a date with me
in two years?"
 - I didn't want to get
 my hopes up too much either,
 because two years
 is a long time.
 I'm from a town called
 Aberdeen, Scotland.
 So when she got home,
 I asked her,
 "Would you want to
 come out and,
 you know, meet my family?"
 and things like that,
 and it was just--
you know, it was just
a shot in the dark,
kind of see what she'd say.
- I guess I've always kind of
believed in fairy tales
and dreams coming true.
Certainly know nightmares do.
But I think I thought, "Well,
what do I have to lose?"
 - As soon as I picked her up
 from the airport,
 I knew that we were--
 we were gonna get married.
- It's a miracle that really
she could go forward
and get married, that she did
want to have children,
and it's a miracle
over and over and over.
 - "How are you okay
 with your husband?
How are you okay with men?"
I don't know.
"How do you have sex?"
Well, probably the same way
everybody else does.
 - There's nothing
 that holds us back
 as a married couple.
 She's always been
 comfortable around me.
There's nothing that's
affected my relationship
with her or vice versa.
 ♪ ♪
 - My kidnapping
 isn't something
 that I think about every day.
 It happened, and yes,
 it's affected me.
 It's made me who I am today.
 I'm happy now,
 and I have a family now,
 and I'm in a really good place
 in my life now,
 and so I don't regret
 not screaming out.
Do I wish I had said
something?
Do I wish could've
done something?
Do I wish I could've cut
my time being kidnapped
basically in half?
Yes, of course,
but at the time,
I didn't know that.
[soft harp music playing]
 I mean, I survived.
 I made it back.
 I mean, I did what
 I had to do to survive.
♪ ♪
 [applause]
