LORAS WITH THE HERITAGE 
FOUNDATION.
BILL, LET ME START WITH YOU.
EVEN IF WHAT VAN AND THE WHITE 
HOUSE ARE SAYING IS ALL TRUE, 
THE SCARE TACTICS HAVE NOT 
WORKED.
>> BEFORE YOU GO ON -- 
>> LET ME FINISH MY QUESTION.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FACTS.
>> NO, LET ME FINISH MY 
QUESTION, BILL.
I WANT YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT 
THIS POLLING.
ONLY ABOUT 36% OF AMERICANS 
THINK GLOBAL WARMING IS A 
SERIOUS THREAT TO OUR WAY OF 
LIFE.
NOW, AGAIN, LET ME PAUSE IT.
EVERYTHING THAT VAN AND THE 
WHITE HOUSE HAVE SAID IS TRUE, 
HOWEVER, THE SCARE TACTICS HAVE 
NOT WORKED, AND DON'T YOU NEED 
PUBLIC CONSENSUS TO MOVE THE 
NEEDLE ON THIS?
>> SO, HOW DO YOU WANT TO GET 
PUBLIC CONSENSUS, BY SAYING THAT
IT'S NOT HAPPENING, THAT IT'S 
NOT SERIOUS, THAT SHORELINES 
AREN'T FLOODING?
>> NO, I WANT YOU TO ADVISE THE 
POLITICIANS, BECAUSE WHATEVER 
THEY ARE DOING, WHATEVER VAN IS 
DOING TO SCARE THE PUBLIC, IS 
NOT CHANGING PUBLIC -- 
>> INFORM THE PUBLIC, BUT GO 
RIGHT AHEAD.
>> TELL US HOW TO USE THE 
SCIENCE TO ACTUALLY CHANGE 
PUBLIC CONSENSUS.
>> GET THE MESSAGE OUT.
THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS.
IF YOU LIVE IN OKLAHOMA, WHERE 
TORNADOS HAVE WIPED YOUR TOWN 
OUT A COUPLE TIMES, AND YOU 
CHOSE ALASKA, WHICH IS REMOTE, 
GENERALLY, BUT REMEMBER 
HURRICANE SANDY, THE BOTTOM HALF
OF MANHATTAN WAS FLOODED.
THE ECONOMIC EFFECT OF THAT 
ALONE IS ENORMOUS, LET ALONE THE
REBUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND WE'RE IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD
WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET ON THE 
HIGHWAY AND DRIVE.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SAY MOVING A 
HIGHWAY FOUR FEET, DOESN'T SOUND
LIKE VERY MUCH, BUT YOU'RE 
TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS OF TONS 
OF ROAD THAT HAVE TO BE LIFTED 
AND THAT ENERGY HAS TO COME FROM
SOMEWHERE, AND THAT'S JUST THE 
START OF THINGS.
WHEN WE START HAVING CROP 
FAILURES AND THE DROUGHT THAT'S 
IN CALIFORNIA CONTINUES, THE 
ECONOMIC COSTS -- 
>> YOU CAN LOOK AT THESE THINGS 
AND THE CLIMATE REALITIES AND 
EVEN THIS NCA REPORT SAYS THE 
TREND ON TORNADOS ISN'T TERN, 
THE IPPC REPORT SAYS THE 
HURRICANE REPORT ISN'T 
UNCERTAIN.
I'M NOT A DENIER OR SKEPTIC, 
CLIMATE IS CHANGING, YES, 
MANMADE EMISSIONS ARE SOME PART 
TO THAT, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN 
THESE TRENDS.
THE OBSERVED DATA DOESN'T PROVE 
THAT.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE POLICY 
PRESCRIPTIONS, THESE GREEN HOUSE
GAS REGULATIONS COMING DOWN, 
PROHIBITING BUILDING NEW 
COAL-FIRE POWER PLANTS WILL MAKE
US LESS EQUIPPED TO HANDLE THESE
PROBLEMS, WHETHER THEY ARE MORE 
FREQUENT OR NOT.
>> LET'S START WITH WE DON'T 
AGREE ON THE FACTS.
THIS THIRD REPORT CAME OUT 
SAYING IT'S VERY SERIOUS, YOU 
SAY, NO, RIGHT?
THERE'S THE ESSENCE OF THE 
PROBLEM, S.E.
THE SCIENCE, THE RESEARCHERS SAY
YES.
>> NOT ALL THE RESEARCHERS.
EVEN THE IPPC SAYS THERE'S NO 
FREQUENCY OR INTENSITY WHEN IT 
COMES TO HURRICANES.
>> HURRICANE, SMHURRICANE.
>> IT'S INCREASING AT A SLOWER 
RATE OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.
WE'VE HAD ARCTIC ICE GLOBALLY 
INCREASING.
>> BILL, ISN'T IT A PROBLEM WHEN
SCIENCE GUYS ATTEMPT TO BULLY 
OTHER PEOPLE?
I MEAN, NICK HERE HAD TO SAY, 
I'M NOT A DENIER.
HE HAD TO GET IT UP, I'M NOT A 
DENIER, BECAUSE REALLY, THE 
SCIENCE GROUP HAS TRIED TO SHAME
ANYONE WHO DARES QUESTION THIS, 
AND THE POINT I'M
