>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD        
MORNING, EVERYONE.              
MORNING, EVERYONE.              
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA 
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA 
CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING TO
CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING TO
ORDER.                          
ORDER.                          
IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL CALL,     
IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL CALL,     
PLEASE.                         
PLEASE.                         
>>LUIS VIERA: HERE.             
>>LUIS VIERA: HERE.             
>>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.          
>>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.          
>>BILL CARLSON: HERE.           
>>BILL CARLSON: HERE.           
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.        
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.        
>>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.           
>>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.           
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.        
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.        
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.       
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.       
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
I DON'T HAVE ANYONE TODAY OR    
I DON'T HAVE ANYONE TODAY OR    
THIS WEEK FOR THE INVOCATION, SO
THIS WEEK FOR THE INVOCATION, SO
WE'LL GO INTO THE PLEDGE OF     
WE'LL GO INTO THE PLEDGE OF     
ALLEGIANCE.                     
ALLEGIANCE.                     
IF YOU'RE ABLE TO STAND, PLEASE 
IF YOU'RE ABLE TO STAND, PLEASE 
DO.                             
DO.                             
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG 
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG 
OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT
STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD,   
STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD,   
INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND   
INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND   
JUSTICE FOR ALL.                
JUSTICE FOR ALL.                
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
MR. SHELBY.                     
MR. SHELBY.                     
MR. SHELBY.                     
MR. SHELBY.                     
IS MR. SHELBY ON THE LINE?      
IS MR. SHELBY ON THE LINE?      
>>THE CLERK: YES, HE WAS ON THE 
>>THE CLERK: YES, HE WAS ON THE 
LINE.                           
LINE.                           
WE LOST HIM.                    
WE LOST HIM.                    
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL GIVE   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL GIVE   
HIM A SECOND SO HE CAN SPEAK.   
HIM A SECOND SO HE CAN SPEAK.   
MR. SHELBY, ARE YOU ON?         
MR. SHELBY, ARE YOU ON?         
ALL RIGHT.                      
ALL RIGHT.                      
WELL, HE GENERALLY READS A      
WELL, HE GENERALLY READS A      
STATEMENT BEFORE WE GO INTO     
STATEMENT BEFORE WE GO INTO     
PUBLIC COMMENT.                 
PUBLIC COMMENT.                 
JUST TO GIVE HIM ANOTHER MINUTE 
JUST TO GIVE HIM ANOTHER MINUTE 
HERE, MADAM CLERK, HOW MANY     
HERE, MADAM CLERK, HOW MANY     
PEOPLE DO WE HAVE --            
PEOPLE DO WE HAVE --            
>>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD MORNING.  
>>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD MORNING.  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE HE IS.
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE HE IS.
GO AHEAD, MR. SHELBY.           
GO AHEAD, MR. SHELBY.           
>>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.     
>>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.     
CAN YOU HEAR ME?                
CAN YOU HEAR ME?                
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
>>MARTIN SHELBY: I'LL HAVE TO   
>>MARTIN SHELBY: I'LL HAVE TO   
RECONNECT.                      
RECONNECT.                      
I DON'T HAVE ANY AUDIO.         
I DON'T HAVE ANY AUDIO.         
BUT IF YOU CAN HEAR ME.         
BUT IF YOU CAN HEAR ME.         
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.          
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.          
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL     
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL     
ATTORNEY.                       
ATTORNEY.                       
THIS VIRTUAL WORKSHOP MEETING OF
THIS VIRTUAL WORKSHOP MEETING OF
THE CITY COUNCIL IS BEING HELD  
THE CITY COUNCIL IS BEING HELD  
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE          
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE          
DECLARATIONS AND PROVISIONS --  
DECLARATIONS AND PROVISIONS --  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND WE LOST 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND WE LOST 
MR. SHELBY AGAIN.               
MR. SHELBY AGAIN.               
JUST TO GIVE HIM ANOTHER MINUTE 
JUST TO GIVE HIM ANOTHER MINUTE 
TO CONNECT HERE.                
TO CONNECT HERE.                
MADAM CLERK, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO 
MADAM CLERK, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO 
WE HAVE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?     
WE HAVE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?     
>>THE CLERK: YES, CHAIR.        
>>THE CLERK: YES, CHAIR.        
WE HAVE EIGHT THAT REGISTERED TO
WE HAVE EIGHT THAT REGISTERED TO
SPEAK, AND WE HAVE SIX          
SPEAK, AND WE HAVE SIX          
RECORDINGS TO BE PLAYED.        
RECORDINGS TO BE PLAYED.        
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.  
MR. SHELBY, ARE YOU BACK ON?    
MR. SHELBY, ARE YOU BACK ON?    
HE'S GOING TO LOG ON.           
HE'S GOING TO LOG ON.           
>>THE CLERK: CHAIR, HE ASKED TO 
>>THE CLERK: CHAIR, HE ASKED TO 
BE SKIPPED BECAUSE HE HAS TO    
BE SKIPPED BECAUSE HE HAS TO    
SIGN BACK IN.                   
SIGN BACK IN.                   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL GO TO 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL GO TO 
PUBLIC COMMENT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO
PUBLIC COMMENT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO
BEGIN.                          
BEGIN.                          
I'LL KEEP TIME.                 
I'LL KEEP TIME.                 
THREE MINUTES PER EACH SPEAKER. 
THREE MINUTES PER EACH SPEAKER. 
AGAIN, I HAVE A TIMER, AND YOU  
AGAIN, I HAVE A TIMER, AND YOU  
CAN GO AHEAD AND BEGIN WITH THE 
CAN GO AHEAD AND BEGIN WITH THE 
FIRST SPEAKER.                  
FIRST SPEAKER.                  
>>TE CLERK: THANK YOU, SIR.     
>>TE CLERK: THANK YOU, SIR.     
THE FIRST SPEAKER I HAVE IS     
THE FIRST SPEAKER I HAVE IS     
ROSARIO COFFIE.                 
ROSARIO COFFIE.                 
IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE      
IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE      
UNMUTE YOUR LINE.               
UNMUTE YOUR LINE.               
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
>> HI.                          
>> HI.                          
MY NAME IS ROZZO COFFIE.        
MY NAME IS ROZZO COFFIE.        
I'M NOT THAT CLEAR OF MIND RIGHT
I'M NOT THAT CLEAR OF MIND RIGHT
NOW IN LIEU OF EVERYTHING THAT'S
NOW IN LIEU OF EVERYTHING THAT'S
GOING ON IN AMERICA.            
GOING ON IN AMERICA.            
THERE'S NOT MUCH TO SAY, AND I  
THERE'S NOT MUCH TO SAY, AND I  
THINK ALL OF OUR WORK SPEAKS    
THINK ALL OF OUR WORK SPEAKS    
CLEARLY FOR WHAT MIND-SET WE'RE 
CLEARLY FOR WHAT MIND-SET WE'RE 
IN GOING FORWARD.               
IN GOING FORWARD.               
AS FAR AS STAFF REPORT THREE    
AS FAR AS STAFF REPORT THREE    
GOES, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WHEN  
GOES, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WHEN  
REVIEWING THE POLICIES, IN THE  
REVIEWING THE POLICIES, IN THE  
LAST YEAR, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT  
LAST YEAR, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT  
TPD HAS VIOLATED ANY OF THOSE   
TPD HAS VIOLATED ANY OF THOSE   
POLICIES, LET ALONE THE LAST    
POLICIES, LET ALONE THE LAST    
FOUR MONTHS?                    
FOUR MONTHS?                    
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.       
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.       
AND I YIELD MY TIME.            
AND I YIELD MY TIME.            
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
>>THE CLERK: THANK YOU, SIR.    
>>THE CLERK: THANK YOU, SIR.    
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE      
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE      
PUBLIC COMMENT CONTINUES, ITEM  
PUBLIC COMMENT CONTINUES, ITEM  
NUMBER 3 IS GOING TO BE         
NUMBER 3 IS GOING TO BE         
CONTINUED.                      
CONTINUED.                      
THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE  
THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE  
THAT ITEM WHEN WE GET TO IT, TO 
THAT ITEM WHEN WE GET TO IT, TO 
SEPTEMBER 24.                   
SEPTEMBER 24.                   
WE WILL NOT BE DISCUSSING THIS  
WE WILL NOT BE DISCUSSING THIS  
TODAY, IN CASE FOLKS HAVE NOT   
TODAY, IN CASE FOLKS HAVE NOT   
BEEN ABLE TO REGISTER FOR PUBLIC
BEEN ABLE TO REGISTER FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT AND WHAT NOT.           
COMMENT AND WHAT NOT.           
THAT WILL BE CONTINUED TO       
THAT WILL BE CONTINUED TO       
SEPTEMBER 24.                   
SEPTEMBER 24.                   
WE'LL GET THAT MOTION DONE AFTER
WE'LL GET THAT MOTION DONE AFTER
PUBLIC COMMENT.                 
PUBLIC COMMENT.                 
I BELIEVE MR. SHELBY IS BACK ON.
I BELIEVE MR. SHELBY IS BACK ON.
MR. SHELBY, DID YOU WANT TO READ
MR. SHELBY, DID YOU WANT TO READ
YOUR STATEMENT?                 
YOUR STATEMENT?                 
>>MARTIN SHELBY: SURE.          
>>MARTIN SHELBY: SURE.          
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.        
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.        
MY APOLOGIES FOR THAT TECHNICAL 
MY APOLOGIES FOR THAT TECHNICAL 
ISSUE.                          
ISSUE.                          
GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.     
GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.     
MARTIN SHELBY, THE CITY COUNCIL 
MARTIN SHELBY, THE CITY COUNCIL 
ATTORNEY.                       
ATTORNEY.                       
THIS VIRTUAL WORKSHOP MEETING OF
THIS VIRTUAL WORKSHOP MEETING OF
THE CITY COUNCIL IS BEING HELD  
THE CITY COUNCIL IS BEING HELD  
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE          
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE          
DECLARATIONS AND PROVISIONS OF  
DECLARATIONS AND PROVISIONS OF  
THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDERS 
THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDERS 
20-69 AND 20-193 AS THEY MAY BE 
20-69 AND 20-193 AS THEY MAY BE 
FURTHER EXTENDED AND THE        
FURTHER EXTENDED AND THE        
EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURE AS 
EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURE AS 
ADOPTED AND AMENDED BY THE TAMPA
ADOPTED AND AMENDED BY THE TAMPA
CITY COUNCIL.                   
CITY COUNCIL.                   
IT'S BEING CONDUCTED BY AUDIO   
IT'S BEING CONDUCTED BY AUDIO   
TELECONFERENCING ONLY WITH VIDEO
TELECONFERENCING ONLY WITH VIDEO
PRESENTATIONS.                  
PRESENTATIONS.                  
REMOTE PARTICIPATION, WHICH IS  
REMOTE PARTICIPATION, WHICH IS  
REFERRED TO BY THE STATE OF     
REFERRED TO BY THE STATE OF     
FLORIDA STATUTES AND RULES AS   
FLORIDA STATUTES AND RULES AS   
COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY.
COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY.
THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS OF  
THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS OF  
TAMPA ARE ABLE TO WATCH, LISTEN,
TAMPA ARE ABLE TO WATCH, LISTEN,
AND VIEW THE SLIDES ON CABLE TV 
AND VIEW THE SLIDES ON CABLE TV 
AND THE INTERNET AND WRITTEN    
AND THE INTERNET AND WRITTEN    
PUBLIC COMMENT HAS BEEN         
PUBLIC COMMENT HAS BEEN         
DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL AND 
DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL AND 
LIVE AND PRERECORDED PUBLIC     
LIVE AND PRERECORDED PUBLIC     
COMMENT WILL BE HEARD AT THE    
COMMENT WILL BE HEARD AT THE    
START OF THE VIRTUAL MEETING PER
START OF THE VIRTUAL MEETING PER
COUNCIL'S MOTION.               
COUNCIL'S MOTION.               
I UNDERSTAND, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT
I UNDERSTAND, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT
THERE'S PRESENTLY NO ONE AT THE 
THERE'S PRESENTLY NO ONE AT THE 
TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER FOR     
TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER FOR     
PUBLIC COMMENT.                 
PUBLIC COMMENT.                 
THANK YOU, SIR.                 
THANK YOU, SIR.                 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
>>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?  
>>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.   
>>ORLANDO GUDES: POINT OF ORDER.
>>ORLANDO GUDES: POINT OF ORDER.
I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE        
I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE        
CLARIFICATION TO THE PUBLIC.    
CLARIFICATION TO THE PUBLIC.    
I KNOW THE FINAL AGENDA CAME OUT
I KNOW THE FINAL AGENDA CAME OUT
A LITTLE BIT LATE.              
A LITTLE BIT LATE.              
SO SOME MAY BE CONFUSED WITH THE
SO SOME MAY BE CONFUSED WITH THE
DRAFT AGENDA WHERE NUMBER 2 WAS 
DRAFT AGENDA WHERE NUMBER 2 WAS 
SWITCHED TO NUMBER THREE NOW AND
SWITCHED TO NUMBER THREE NOW AND
VICE VERSA.                     
VICE VERSA.                     
I FILE FILE E 2020-8 IS NUMBER  
I FILE FILE E 2020-8 IS NUMBER  
THREE VERSUS -- I THINK THEY    
THREE VERSUS -- I THINK THEY    
WERE SWITCHED AROUND.           
WERE SWITCHED AROUND.           
I'M LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT    
I'M LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT    
AGENDAS AND LOOKING AT THE      
AGENDAS AND LOOKING AT THE      
DIFFERENCE.                     
DIFFERENCE.                     
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE         
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE         
DIVERSITY NUMBERS.              
DIVERSITY NUMBERS.              
I UNDERSTAND.                   
I UNDERSTAND.                   
ALL RIGHT.                      
ALL RIGHT.                      
VERY GOOD.                      
VERY GOOD.                      
>>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN,  
>>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN,  
MARTIN SHELBY.                  
MARTIN SHELBY.                  
IF I MAY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, 
IF I MAY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, 
IN CASE THERE ARE PEOPLE TUNING 
IN CASE THERE ARE PEOPLE TUNING 
IN LATE, WHEN THERE ARE MOTIONS 
IN LATE, WHEN THERE ARE MOTIONS 
RELATED TO SPECIFIC ITEM        
RELATED TO SPECIFIC ITEM        
NUMBERS, IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY    
NUMBERS, IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY    
WHAT THE ITEM IS, THAT WILL BE  
WHAT THE ITEM IS, THAT WILL BE  
CLARIFY IT FOR THE PEOPLE       
CLARIFY IT FOR THE PEOPLE       
LISTENING BY AUDIO ONLY.        
LISTENING BY AUDIO ONLY.        
SO THANK YOU.                   
SO THANK YOU.                   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE   
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE   
WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.            
WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.            
>>THE CLERK: YES, SIR, THANK    
>>THE CLERK: YES, SIR, THANK    
YOU.                            
YOU.                            
THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE IS     
THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE IS     
RACHAEL HOWELL.                 
RACHAEL HOWELL.                 
IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE      
IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE      
UNMUTE YOUR LINE.               
UNMUTE YOUR LINE.               
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.         
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.         
>> HELLO.                       
>> HELLO.                       
GOOD MORNING.                   
GOOD MORNING.                   
MY NAME IS RACHAEL HOWELL.      
MY NAME IS RACHAEL HOWELL.      
MY COMMENTS ARE GOING TO BE ON  
MY COMMENTS ARE GOING TO BE ON  
THE SAME TOPIC AS ROZZO COFFIE  
THE SAME TOPIC AS ROZZO COFFIE  
BUT WITH THE NEWS YOU WON'T BE  
BUT WITH THE NEWS YOU WON'T BE  
DISCUSSING IT TODAY AND YOU'LL  
DISCUSSING IT TODAY AND YOU'LL  
BE DISCUSSING IT SEPTEMBER      
BE DISCUSSING IT SEPTEMBER      
23rd.                           
23rd.                           
I WILL HOLD MY MORE EXTENDED    
I WILL HOLD MY MORE EXTENDED    
COMMENTS UNTIL THEN.            
COMMENTS UNTIL THEN.            
BUT I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT    
BUT I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT    
ROZZELL WAS SAYING AND THINK TO 
ROZZELL WAS SAYING AND THINK TO 
YOURSELVES IF TAMPA PD HAS      
YOURSELVES IF TAMPA PD HAS      
UPHELD THESE POLICIES WITHIN THE
UPHELD THESE POLICIES WITHIN THE
LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.          
LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.          
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
THE NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.       
THE NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.       
>>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER WE
>>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER WE
HAVE IS MATTHEW COMPOSKI.       
HAVE IS MATTHEW COMPOSKI.       
IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE      
IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE      
UNMUTE YOUR LINE.               
UNMUTE YOUR LINE.               
>> MY NAME IS MATTHEW UMPULSKI. 
>> MY NAME IS MATTHEW UMPULSKI. 
IT'S CLEAR THAT SOME POLICIES --
IT'S CLEAR THAT SOME POLICIES --
FOR THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
FOR THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THEY HAVE MADE THAT EVIDENCE    
THEY HAVE MADE THAT EVIDENCE    
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.   
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.   
THE WHOLE EIGHT CAN'T WAIT, THEY
THE WHOLE EIGHT CAN'T WAIT, THEY
CAN'T DO MOST OF THE SIMPLE     
CAN'T DO MOST OF THE SIMPLE     
TASKS.                          
TASKS.                          
THEY HAVE BEEN USING CHEMICAL   
THEY HAVE BEEN USING CHEMICAL   
WARFARE.                        
WARFARE.                        
THEY HAVE BEEN USING RIOT GEAR. 
THEY HAVE BEEN USING RIOT GEAR. 
IT'S CLEAR THEY CAN'T FOLLOW    
IT'S CLEAR THEY CAN'T FOLLOW    
THOSE SIMPLE RULES.             
THOSE SIMPLE RULES.             
I THINK THIS IS JUST A FARCE,   
I THINK THIS IS JUST A FARCE,   
HONESTLY.                       
HONESTLY.                       
I THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT WE      
I THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT WE      
ACTUALLY NEED TO DEFUND AND     
ACTUALLY NEED TO DEFUND AND     
RESTART THE WHOLE SYSTEM.       
RESTART THE WHOLE SYSTEM.       
IT'S CLEAR WE NEED TO FREEZE THE
IT'S CLEAR WE NEED TO FREEZE THE
TPD'S BUDGET, REALLOCATE FUNDS  
TPD'S BUDGET, REALLOCATE FUNDS  
TO SOCIAL SAFETY NET PROGRAMS.  
TO SOCIAL SAFETY NET PROGRAMS.  
AND AS FAR AS DIVERSITY IS      
AND AS FAR AS DIVERSITY IS      
CONCERNED, WE DEFINITELY DON'T  
CONCERNED, WE DEFINITELY DON'T  
NEED JUST MORE COPS OF COLOR.   
NEED JUST MORE COPS OF COLOR.   
THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE      
THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE      
SOLUTION HERE.                  
SOLUTION HERE.                  
I THINK THAT'S OBVIOUS.         
I THINK THAT'S OBVIOUS.         
I SPOKE TO COUNCILMAN CITRO'S   
I SPOKE TO COUNCILMAN CITRO'S   
AIDE YESTERDAY FOR AROUND TEN   
AIDE YESTERDAY FOR AROUND TEN   
MINUTES, AND HE TOLD ME THAT    
MINUTES, AND HE TOLD ME THAT    
IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN,   
IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN,   
THAT WE NEED NEW SAFE SQUAD     
THAT WE NEED NEW SAFE SQUAD     
CARS.                           
CARS.                           
THAT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN.
THAT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN.
WE NEED TO INFLATE THE BUDGET   
WE NEED TO INFLATE THE BUDGET   
FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR   
FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR   
THINGS LIKE THAT.               
THINGS LIKE THAT.               
HE ALSO TOLD ME THAT THE        
HE ALSO TOLD ME THAT THE        
HOMELESS CRISIS -- THE          
HOMELESS CRISIS -- THE          
HOMELESSNESS PANDEMIC THAT'S    
HOMELESSNESS PANDEMIC THAT'S    
BEEN GOING ON IN TAMPA FOR YEARS
BEEN GOING ON IN TAMPA FOR YEARS
IS A COUNTY PROBLEM AND THAT THE
IS A COUNTY PROBLEM AND THAT THE
CITY HAS NO CONTROL OVER THAT.  
CITY HAS NO CONTROL OVER THAT.  
AND THEY AREN'T GOING TO TAKE   
AND THEY AREN'T GOING TO TAKE   
ANY SORT OF ASSERTIVE MEASURES  
ANY SORT OF ASSERTIVE MEASURES  
TO HELP THE HOMELESS PROBLEM IN 
TO HELP THE HOMELESS PROBLEM IN 
TAMPA.                          
TAMPA.                          
SO IT'S CLEAR THAT THE          
SO IT'S CLEAR THAT THE          
PRIORITIES OF THE CITY DO NOT   
PRIORITIES OF THE CITY DO NOT   
LINE UP WITH THE PRIORITIES OF  
LINE UP WITH THE PRIORITIES OF  
THE PUBLIC.                     
THE PUBLIC.                     
SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE
SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE
TO SAY.                         
TO SAY.                         
YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S IT.        
YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S IT.        
YOU GUYS REALLY NEED TO LOOK IN 
YOU GUYS REALLY NEED TO LOOK IN 
THE MIRRORS AND ASK YOURSELVES, 
THE MIRRORS AND ASK YOURSELVES, 
DO YOU GUYS HAVE A CONSCIENCE,  
DO YOU GUYS HAVE A CONSCIENCE,  
LIKE, SERIOUSLY.                
LIKE, SERIOUSLY.                
LIKE IT'S SO PAINFULLY OBVIOUS  
LIKE IT'S SO PAINFULLY OBVIOUS  
AND BLATANT HOW BIASED THE CITY 
AND BLATANT HOW BIASED THE CITY 
HAS BECOME.                     
HAS BECOME.                     
AND YOU GUYS REALLY NEED TO LIKE
AND YOU GUYS REALLY NEED TO LIKE
DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, YOU    
DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, YOU    
KNOW.                           
KNOW.                           
I REALLY HOPE ON A PERSONAL     
I REALLY HOPE ON A PERSONAL     
NOTE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I KNOW
NOTE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I KNOW
YOU'RE NOT ON VIDEO THIS TIME,  
YOU'RE NOT ON VIDEO THIS TIME,  
BUT I REALLY HOPE YOU'RE TAKING 
BUT I REALLY HOPE YOU'RE TAKING 
THE OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THE
THE OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THE
PEOPLE AS OPPOSED TO READING    
PEOPLE AS OPPOSED TO READING    
LIKE A COUPON MAILER LIKE WE ALL
LIKE A COUPON MAILER LIKE WE ALL
SAW YOU DO AT THE LAST MEETING. 
SAW YOU DO AT THE LAST MEETING. 
I HOPE YOU'RE PAYING ATTENTION  
I HOPE YOU'RE PAYING ATTENTION  
TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AS OPPOSED 
TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AS OPPOSED 
TO BLOWING THEM OFF.            
TO BLOWING THEM OFF.            
THAT WAS A REALLY DISRESPECTFUL 
THAT WAS A REALLY DISRESPECTFUL 
THING YOU DID AT THE LAST       
THING YOU DID AT THE LAST       
MEETING, MR. MIRANDA.           
MEETING, MR. MIRANDA.           
I HOPE YOU CAN ADDRESS THE      
I HOPE YOU CAN ADDRESS THE      
PUBLIC REGARDING THAT --        
PUBLIC REGARDING THAT --        
IT WAS A REAL SPIT-IN-THE-FACE  
IT WAS A REAL SPIT-IN-THE-FACE  
MOVE.                           
MOVE.                           
I HOPE YOU CAN TAKE AN          
I HOPE YOU CAN TAKE AN          
OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN YOURSELF.
OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN YOURSELF.
THERE ARE PICTURES OF YOU ALL   
THERE ARE PICTURES OF YOU ALL   
OVER THE INTERNET READING A     
OVER THE INTERNET READING A     
COUPON BOOK WHILE THE MEETING   
COUPON BOOK WHILE THE MEETING   
WAS GOING ON REGARDING THE      
WAS GOING ON REGARDING THE      
BUDGET OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.    
BUDGET OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.    
IT'S CLEAR YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT 
IT'S CLEAR YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT 
YOUR CONSTITUENTS, CLEAR.       
YOUR CONSTITUENTS, CLEAR.       
I YIELD MY TIME.                
I YIELD MY TIME.                
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.           
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.           
>>THE CLERK: YES, SIR.          
>>THE CLERK: YES, SIR.          
THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE IS     
THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE IS     
JORDANA.                        
JORDANA.                        
>> YES, HELLO.                  
>> YES, HELLO.                  
I CALLED YOU GUYS REGARDING     
I CALLED YOU GUYS REGARDING     
TAMPA'S USE OF FORCE POLICY     
TAMPA'S USE OF FORCE POLICY     
WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.   
WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.   
IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT REGARDLESS 
IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT REGARDLESS 
OF WHAT POLICIES ARE IN PLACE,  
OF WHAT POLICIES ARE IN PLACE,  
THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS 
THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS 
NO INTENTION OF FOLLOWING THEM. 
NO INTENTION OF FOLLOWING THEM. 
THE CURRENT TPD POLICY ON USING 
THE CURRENT TPD POLICY ON USING 
CAPSAICIN SPRAY SPECIFICALLY    
CAPSAICIN SPRAY SPECIFICALLY    
PROHIBITS ITS USE AS A MEANS OF 
PROHIBITS ITS USE AS A MEANS OF 
CROWD DISPERSAL.                
CROWD DISPERSAL.                
WE'VE SEEN THEM USE IT AS SO.   
WE'VE SEEN THEM USE IT AS SO.   
USE OF FORCE BY TPD IS UP 20%   
USE OF FORCE BY TPD IS UP 20%   
AND THAT EXCLUDES THE USE OF    
AND THAT EXCLUDES THE USE OF    
CHEMICAL SPRAYS.                
CHEMICAL SPRAYS.                
WHEN YOU INCLUDE THAT, IT HAS A 
WHEN YOU INCLUDE THAT, IT HAS A 
200% INCREASE FROM 2017.        
200% INCREASE FROM 2017.        
THERE HAVE BEEN DECADES OF      
THERE HAVE BEEN DECADES OF      
RESEARCH TO PROVE THAT AN       
RESEARCH TO PROVE THAT AN       
INCREASE IN AGGRESSIVE POLICING 
INCREASE IN AGGRESSIVE POLICING 
ONLY INFLATES CONFLICT.         
ONLY INFLATES CONFLICT.         
WE SEE THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY    
WE SEE THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY    
EVERY TIME THE POLICE COME OUT. 
EVERY TIME THE POLICE COME OUT. 
EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE PROCEDURES  
EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE PROCEDURES  
AND POLICIES IN PLACE, THEY HAVE
AND POLICIES IN PLACE, THEY HAVE
PROVEN NOT TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW 
PROVEN NOT TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW 
THEM WHEN THEY ARE USING        
THEM WHEN THEY ARE USING        
CHEMICALS ON UNARMED AND        
CHEMICALS ON UNARMED AND        
NON-DANGEROUS PROTESTORS AS A   
NON-DANGEROUS PROTESTORS AS A   
MEANS OF CROWD DISPERSAL.       
MEANS OF CROWD DISPERSAL.       
TAMPAGOV.NET STATES THAT IN     
TAMPAGOV.NET STATES THAT IN     
REGARDS TO THE EIGHT CAN'T WAIT 
REGARDS TO THE EIGHT CAN'T WAIT 
INITIATIVE, THE EIGHT PROPOSED  
INITIATIVE, THE EIGHT PROPOSED  
POLICIES HAVE BEEN IN EFFECT FOR
POLICIES HAVE BEEN IN EFFECT FOR
YEARS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.     
YEARS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.     
A REPORT BY TEN TAMPA BAY --    
A REPORT BY TEN TAMPA BAY --    
PUBLISHED ON AUGUST 14 OF THIS  
PUBLISHED ON AUGUST 14 OF THIS  
YEAR STATES THAT A SPOKESPERSON 
YEAR STATES THAT A SPOKESPERSON 
FOR EIGHT CAN'T WAIT CLAIMS THAT
FOR EIGHT CAN'T WAIT CLAIMS THAT
TPD STILL ONLY MEETS FIVE OF THE
TPD STILL ONLY MEETS FIVE OF THE
EIGHT RECOMMENDED POLICIES.     
EIGHT RECOMMENDED POLICIES.     
TIME AND TIME AGAIN THEY PROVE  
TIME AND TIME AGAIN THEY PROVE  
THEIR INCOMPETENCE BY REFUSING  
THEIR INCOMPETENCE BY REFUSING  
TO FOLLOW BASIC, NON-DENIAL     
TO FOLLOW BASIC, NON-DENIAL     
POLICIES LIKE EIGHT CAN'T WAIT. 
POLICIES LIKE EIGHT CAN'T WAIT. 
LIKE THE MURDER OF JONAH WHEN   
LIKE THE MURDER OF JONAH WHEN   
THEY SHOT HIM 62 TIMES OUT OF   
THEY SHOT HIM 62 TIMES OUT OF   
120 ROUNDS INTO HIS VEHICLE.    
120 ROUNDS INTO HIS VEHICLE.    
EIGHT CAN'T WAIT WASN'T A       
EIGHT CAN'T WAIT WASN'T A       
CONCESSION AND IT -- IT WAS     
CONCESSION AND IT -- IT WAS     
SUPPOSED TO BE AN IMMEDIATE     
SUPPOSED TO BE AN IMMEDIATE     
INITIATIVE AND JANE CASTOR AND  
INITIATIVE AND JANE CASTOR AND  
BRIAN DUGAN HAVE FAILED         
BRIAN DUGAN HAVE FAILED         
COMPLETELY.                     
COMPLETELY.                     
IN REGARDS TO WHAT IS BEING DONE
IN REGARDS TO WHAT IS BEING DONE
ABOUT DIVERSITY IN OUR          
ABOUT DIVERSITY IN OUR          
DEPARTMENT.                     
DEPARTMENT.                     
HIRING MORE BLACK COPS WON'T    
HIRING MORE BLACK COPS WON'T    
STOP COPS FROM SHOOTING MORE    
STOP COPS FROM SHOOTING MORE    
BLACK PEOPLE.                   
BLACK PEOPLE.                   
WE WILL NEVER STOP THE MURDER OF
WE WILL NEVER STOP THE MURDER OF
BLACK PEOPLE AND OTHER PEOPLE OF
BLACK PEOPLE AND OTHER PEOPLE OF
COLOR BY POLICE UNTIL WE ABOLISH
COLOR BY POLICE UNTIL WE ABOLISH
THE POLICE.                     
THE POLICE.                     
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
I YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME.    
I YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME.    
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.           
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.           
>>THE CLERK: YES, THANK YOU.    
>>THE CLERK: YES, THANK YOU.    
THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE IS     
THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE IS     
BROOK.                          
BROOK.                          
IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE      
IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE      
UNMUTE YOUR LINE, YOU HAVE THREE
UNMUTE YOUR LINE, YOU HAVE THREE
MINUTES TO SPEAK.               
MINUTES TO SPEAK.               
>> HI, COUNCILMEN.              
>> HI, COUNCILMEN.              
THANK YOU FOR MEETING WITH US   
THANK YOU FOR MEETING WITH US   
TODAY.                          
TODAY.                          
I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE USE 
I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE USE 
OF FORCE POLICY.                
OF FORCE POLICY.                
JUST A LITTLE ANECDOTE ABOUT    
JUST A LITTLE ANECDOTE ABOUT    
SOME OF THE WAYS THAT TPD HAS   
SOME OF THE WAYS THAT TPD HAS   
NOT BEEN FOLLOWING IT.          
NOT BEEN FOLLOWING IT.          
I WAS ONE OF THE PROBABLY       
I WAS ONE OF THE PROBABLY       
HUNDREDS OF MAYBE THOUSANDS OF  
HUNDREDS OF MAYBE THOUSANDS OF  
PROTESTORS THEY PEPPER SPRAYED  
PROTESTORS THEY PEPPER SPRAYED  
AS A USE OF DISPERSAL, WHEREAS  
AS A USE OF DISPERSAL, WHEREAS  
THEY ARE ONLY SUPPOSED TO USE IT
THEY ARE ONLY SUPPOSED TO USE IT
ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS AS THEY 
ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS AS THEY 
ARE MAKING ARREST AND SOMEBODY  
ARE MAKING ARREST AND SOMEBODY  
IS BEING RESISTANT.             
IS BEING RESISTANT.             
THAT WAY THEY CAN ACTUALLY      
THAT WAY THEY CAN ACTUALLY      
MONITOR THE PERSON'S HEALTH,    
MONITOR THE PERSON'S HEALTH,    
MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT HAVING A 
MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT HAVING A 
BAD REACTION BECAUSE THESE ARE  
BAD REACTION BECAUSE THESE ARE  
DANGEROUS CHEMICALS.            
DANGEROUS CHEMICALS.            
IN ADDITION, I WAS ONE OF THE 67
IN ADDITION, I WAS ONE OF THE 67
PEOPLE WHO WERE ARRESTED ON JUNE
PEOPLE WHO WERE ARRESTED ON JUNE
2nd WHEN WE WERE SIMPLY         
2nd WHEN WE WERE SIMPLY         
WALKING AROUND DOWNTOWN.        
WALKING AROUND DOWNTOWN.        
ADMITTEDLY IN THE STREET BUT    
ADMITTEDLY IN THE STREET BUT    
THAT WAS IT.                    
THAT WAS IT.                    
CHIEF DUGAN SAID WE LIED ABOUT  
CHIEF DUGAN SAID WE LIED ABOUT  
WHAT WE WERE DOING AND ALL THAT,
WHAT WE WERE DOING AND ALL THAT,
BUT IT WAS A VERY, VERY PEACEFUL
BUT IT WAS A VERY, VERY PEACEFUL
PROTEST.                        
PROTEST.                        
AND FOR THAT, I WAS -- THEY     
AND FOR THAT, I WAS -- THEY     
SURROUNDED US.                  
SURROUNDED US.                  
THEY TEAR GASSED US.            
THEY TEAR GASSED US.            
THEY SHOT AT US AND THEN I WAS  
THEY SHOT AT US AND THEN I WAS  
ARRESTED.                       
ARRESTED.                       
OH, AND, BY THE WAY, THEY       
OH, AND, BY THE WAY, THEY       
REMOVED ALL OF OUR MASKS AND    
REMOVED ALL OF OUR MASKS AND    
TOOK US TO A CROWDED JAIL AND   
TOOK US TO A CROWDED JAIL AND   
CROWDED PADDY WAGONS AND I      
CROWDED PADDY WAGONS AND I      
CONTRACTED COVID.               
CONTRACTED COVID.               
I CANT PROVE I GOT IT FROM THAT 
I CANT PROVE I GOT IT FROM THAT 
INCIDENT, BUT THEY DID REMOVE MY
INCIDENT, BUT THEY DID REMOVE MY
MASK AND I WAS CERTAINLY NOT    
MASK AND I WAS CERTAINLY NOT    
SOCIAL DISTANCING.              
SOCIAL DISTANCING.              
SO I WOULD LIKE ANY POLICIES    
SO I WOULD LIKE ANY POLICIES    
THAT BE PUT IN PLACE TODAY OR   
THAT BE PUT IN PLACE TODAY OR   
REVIEWED TODAY, AT ALL POSSIBLE 
REVIEWED TODAY, AT ALL POSSIBLE 
PLEASE HAVE AN EYE FOR ANY KIND 
PLEASE HAVE AN EYE FOR ANY KIND 
OF ACCOUNTABILITY THAT CAN BE   
OF ACCOUNTABILITY THAT CAN BE   
IMPLEMENTED TO ACTUALLY GIVE    
IMPLEMENTED TO ACTUALLY GIVE    
THESE POLICIES SOME TEETH       
THESE POLICIES SOME TEETH       
BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY ARE NOT    
BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY ARE NOT    
GOING TO FOLLOW THEM, NO MATTER 
GOING TO FOLLOW THEM, NO MATTER 
WHAT IT IS.                     
WHAT IT IS.                     
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
I YIELD MY TIME.                
I YIELD MY TIME.                
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.           
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.           
>>THE CLERK: YES, THE NEXT      
>>THE CLERK: YES, THE NEXT      
SPEAKER WE HAVE IS JUSTIN       
SPEAKER WE HAVE IS JUSTIN       
COFFIE.                         
COFFIE.                         
IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE      
IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE      
UNMUTE YOUR LINE.               
UNMUTE YOUR LINE.               
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.   
>> HELLO.                       
>> HELLO.                       
CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME?            
CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME?            
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
>> PERFECT.                     
>> PERFECT.                     
MR. CHAIRMAN, CITY COUNCIL      
MR. CHAIRMAN, CITY COUNCIL      
MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR          
MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR          
RECOGNIZING THE PEOPLE HERE     
RECOGNIZING THE PEOPLE HERE     
TODAY TO DISCUSS THIS MOST      
TODAY TO DISCUSS THIS MOST      
IMPORTANT TOPIC.                
IMPORTANT TOPIC.                
LIKE OTHERS BEFORE ME, I DO NOT 
LIKE OTHERS BEFORE ME, I DO NOT 
HAVE MUCH TO SAY, AND I'LL GET  
HAVE MUCH TO SAY, AND I'LL GET  
STRAIGHT TO IT.                 
STRAIGHT TO IT.                 
I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF BY -- 
I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF BY -- 
I MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 3 TO BE
I MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 3 TO BE
MOVED FORWARD TO AN EARLIER DATE
MOVED FORWARD TO AN EARLIER DATE
IF POSSIBLE.                    
IF POSSIBLE.                    
I BELIEVE THAT SEPTEMBER 24 IS  
I BELIEVE THAT SEPTEMBER 24 IS  
TOO -- TOO FAR AWAY FOR THE     
TOO -- TOO FAR AWAY FOR THE     
AMOUNT OF URGENCY THAT THIS     
AMOUNT OF URGENCY THAT THIS     
TOPIC IS DEMANDING.             
TOPIC IS DEMANDING.             
WE ARE AWARE OF WHAT WAS GOING  
WE ARE AWARE OF WHAT WAS GOING  
ON YESTERDAY.                   
ON YESTERDAY.                   
WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF ATHLETES    
WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF ATHLETES    
STAND IN SOLIDARITY TO SHOW THAT
STAND IN SOLIDARITY TO SHOW THAT
THERE IS NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT 
THERE IS NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT 
THAN ADDRESSING INJUSTICE       
THAN ADDRESSING INJUSTICE       
IMMEDIATELY.                    
IMMEDIATELY.                    
THERE'S NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT  
THERE'S NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT  
WE CAN TALK ABOUT OR DO.        
WE CAN TALK ABOUT OR DO.        
AND I THINK THAT IS VERY        
AND I THINK THAT IS VERY        
IMPORTANT.                      
IMPORTANT.                      
I THINK IT IS VERY MOVING.      
I THINK IT IS VERY MOVING.      
AND THIS IS HOW WE HAVE TO      
AND THIS IS HOW WE HAVE TO      
CONDUCT OURSELVES.              
CONDUCT OURSELVES.              
I THINK THAT WE CAN SKIP A LOT  
I THINK THAT WE CAN SKIP A LOT  
OF THE PROCEDURAL THING AND     
OF THE PROCEDURAL THING AND     
FOCUS ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT.      
FOCUS ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT.      
I MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 3 TO BE   
I MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 3 TO BE   
MORE SPECIFIC BECAUSE I KNOW    
MORE SPECIFIC BECAUSE I KNOW    
THERE'S SOME CONFUSION ON THE   
THERE'S SOME CONFUSION ON THE   
ITEM NUMBERS.                   
ITEM NUMBERS.                   
IT IS THE ITEM WHICH CONCERNS   
IT IS THE ITEM WHICH CONCERNS   
THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE OBAMA
THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE OBAMA
21st CENTURY TASK FORCE         
21st CENTURY TASK FORCE         
RECOMMENDATIONS.                
RECOMMENDATIONS.                
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO MENTION
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO MENTION
AGAIN THAT IF THE TPD HAS BEEN  
AGAIN THAT IF THE TPD HAS BEEN  
ANY VIOLATION OF THESE          
ANY VIOLATION OF THESE          
RECOMMENDATIONS OR POLICIES,    
RECOMMENDATIONS OR POLICIES,    
THAT THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED.  
THAT THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED.  
WITH THAT, I YIELD MY TIME.     
WITH THAT, I YIELD MY TIME.     
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
ALL RIGHT.                      
ALL RIGHT.                      
DO WE HAVE ANY MORE LIVE        
DO WE HAVE ANY MORE LIVE        
SPEAKERS?                       
SPEAKERS?                       
>>THE CLERK: CHAIR, NO, WE DO   
>>THE CLERK: CHAIR, NO, WE DO   
NOT.                            
NOT.                            
I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE  
I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE  
TWO OTHERS THAT REGISTERED BUT  
TWO OTHERS THAT REGISTERED BUT  
THEY DID NOT SHOW UP ONLINE.    
THEY DID NOT SHOW UP ONLINE.    
THE NAME ARE SHIVE SEAHAWK LA   
THE NAME ARE SHIVE SEAHAWK LA   
AND JUROR DENA CUMMINGS.        
AND JUROR DENA CUMMINGS.        
I WILL PROCEED WITH THE VOICE   
I WILL PROCEED WITH THE VOICE   
RECORDINGS.                     
RECORDINGS.                     
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.   
HOW MANY OF THOSE DO WE HAVE?   
HOW MANY OF THOSE DO WE HAVE?   
>>THE CLERK: SIX.               
>>THE CLERK: SIX.               
>> HELLO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.    
>> HELLO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.    
MY NAME IS CHARLES PITINO.      
MY NAME IS CHARLES PITINO.      
MY ADDRESS IS 1313 WEST CARUSO  
MY ADDRESS IS 1313 WEST CARUSO  
COURT.                          
COURT.                          
MY COMMENT TODAY WOULD BE       
MY COMMENT TODAY WOULD BE       
REGARDING THE POLICE CHIEF AND  
REGARDING THE POLICE CHIEF AND  
THE PAINTING THAT THEY DID ON   
THE PAINTING THAT THEY DID ON   
THE STREETS.                    
THE STREETS.                    
THERE ARE RULES SET UP IN OUR   
THERE ARE RULES SET UP IN OUR   
COUNTRY AND THE POLICE AND THE  
COUNTRY AND THE POLICE AND THE  
SHERIFFS AND THE GOVERNMENT ARE 
SHERIFFS AND THE GOVERNMENT ARE 
THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SUPPOSED TO 
THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SUPPOSED TO 
ENFORCE THOSE RULES.            
ENFORCE THOSE RULES.            
I DON'T LIKE HOW THE LEADERS OF 
I DON'T LIKE HOW THE LEADERS OF 
THIS WERE TEXTING EACH OTHER AND
THIS WERE TEXTING EACH OTHER AND
EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE
EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE
PROPER PAPERWORK, THEY STILL    
PROPER PAPERWORK, THEY STILL    
WENT AHEAD AND PAINTED IT EVEN  
WENT AHEAD AND PAINTED IT EVEN  
THOUGH THEY DID NOT HAVE LEGAL  
THOUGH THEY DID NOT HAVE LEGAL  
PERMISSION YET.                 
PERMISSION YET.                 
THEY NEED TO BE MADE AN EXAMPLE 
THEY NEED TO BE MADE AN EXAMPLE 
OF.                             
OF.                             
YOU CANNOT DO WHAT YOU WANT JUST
YOU CANNOT DO WHAT YOU WANT JUST
BECAUSE YOU ARE FOR LAW         
BECAUSE YOU ARE FOR LAW         
ENFORCEMENT.                    
ENFORCEMENT.                    
JUST LIKE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY 
JUST LIKE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY 
TIMES I'VE SEEN A KAREN WITH A  
TIMES I'VE SEEN A KAREN WITH A  
LITTLE SHARE STICKER ON THE BACK
LITTLE SHARE STICKER ON THE BACK
OF HER CAR AND SHE'S SPEEDING   
OF HER CAR AND SHE'S SPEEDING   
AND THE COP PULLS SOMEBODY ELSE 
AND THE COP PULLS SOMEBODY ELSE 
OVER.                           
OVER.                           
I'VE SEEN THAT MANY, MANY TIMES.
I'VE SEEN THAT MANY, MANY TIMES.
IF WE HAVE PEOPLE ENFORCING THE 
IF WE HAVE PEOPLE ENFORCING THE 
LAW, PEOPLE OF QUALITY.         
LAW, PEOPLE OF QUALITY.         
YOU NEED TO FIRE THE POLICE     
YOU NEED TO FIRE THE POLICE     
CHIEF AND FIND SOMEBODY WHO IS  
CHIEF AND FIND SOMEBODY WHO IS  
HOPEFULLY A LITTLE MORE EDUCATED
HOPEFULLY A LITTLE MORE EDUCATED
AND MORE QUALIFIED TO LEAD.     
AND MORE QUALIFIED TO LEAD.     
PREFERABLY WITH MAYBE A MASTERS 
PREFERABLY WITH MAYBE A MASTERS 
OR EVEN A DOCTORATE.            
OR EVEN A DOCTORATE.            
I KNOW THAT'S FAR OUT THERE TO  
I KNOW THAT'S FAR OUT THERE TO  
HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT ARE   
HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT ARE   
TRULY EDUCATED, BUT THAT IS MY  
TRULY EDUCATED, BUT THAT IS MY  
SUGGESTION.                     
SUGGESTION.                     
HAVE A GREAT DAY.               
HAVE A GREAT DAY.               
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
>> HI.                          
>> HI.                          
GRANT.                          
GRANT.                          
916 EAST EMMA STREET.           
916 EAST EMMA STREET.           
I'M ONE OF THE SEVEN WHO WAS    
I'M ONE OF THE SEVEN WHO WAS    
WRONGFULLY ARRESTED ON AUGUST 8 
WRONGFULLY ARRESTED ON AUGUST 8 
FOR PAINTING A RAINBOW MURAL.   
FOR PAINTING A RAINBOW MURAL.   
YOU-ALL KNOW HOW HYPOCRITICAL IT
YOU-ALL KNOW HOW HYPOCRITICAL IT
WAS TO ARREST US WHILE ALLOWING 
WAS TO ARREST US WHILE ALLOWING 
THE -- PEOPLE TO GET AWAY       
THE -- PEOPLE TO GET AWAY       
SCOT-FREE.                      
SCOT-FREE.                      
THE POLICE SAW THEM SPITTING ON 
THE POLICE SAW THEM SPITTING ON 
US, KNOCKING PHONES OUT OF OUR  
US, KNOCKING PHONES OUT OF OUR  
HANDS, BEING VERY AGGRESSIVE    
HANDS, BEING VERY AGGRESSIVE    
WITH US ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT
WITH US ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT
OCCASIONS AND DID NOTHING.      
OCCASIONS AND DID NOTHING.      
COMPLETELY HYPOCRITICAL.        
COMPLETELY HYPOCRITICAL.        
I ASKED RIGHT AWAY IF MY        
I ASKED RIGHT AWAY IF MY        
HANDCUFFS COULD BE LOOSENED     
HANDCUFFS COULD BE LOOSENED     
SINCE THEY WERE PUT ON EXTREMELY
SINCE THEY WERE PUT ON EXTREMELY
UNNECESSARILY TIGHT.            
UNNECESSARILY TIGHT.            
THEY WERE NOT.                  
THEY WERE NOT.                  
WE JUST ASKED FOR THE WINDOW TO 
WE JUST ASKED FOR THE WINDOW TO 
BE PUT DOWN WHILE WE WERE       
BE PUT DOWN WHILE WE WERE       
SITTING IN THE BACK OF THE HOT  
SITTING IN THE BACK OF THE HOT  
CAR WHILE THEY BRUTALIZED OTHER 
CAR WHILE THEY BRUTALIZED OTHER 
PROTESTORS.                     
PROTESTORS.                     
THAT WASN'T DONE.               
THAT WASN'T DONE.               
THE WHOLE PROCESS GOING INTO THE
THE WHOLE PROCESS GOING INTO THE
JAIL WAS COMPLETELY             
JAIL WAS COMPLETELY             
DEHUMANIZING.                   
DEHUMANIZING.                   
HOPEFULLY YOU ALL HAVE READ THE 
HOPEFULLY YOU ALL HAVE READ THE 
TAMPA BAY TIMES ARTICLE BY NOW  
TAMPA BAY TIMES ARTICLE BY NOW  
TALKING ABOUT ONE OF MY FRIENDS 
TALKING ABOUT ONE OF MY FRIENDS 
GETTING BEAT AND A COUPLE OTHER 
GETTING BEAT AND A COUPLE OTHER 
ONES GETTING MOLESTED.          
ONES GETTING MOLESTED.          
SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT
SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT
THAT.                           
THAT.                           
I WOULD LOVE TO BE GIVING THIS  
I WOULD LOVE TO BE GIVING THIS  
COMMENT IN PUBLIC TOMORROW      
COMMENT IN PUBLIC TOMORROW      
MORNING.                        
MORNING.                        
UNFORTUNATELY, I'LL BE WORKING. 
UNFORTUNATELY, I'LL BE WORKING. 
I'LL BE DELIVERING PRODUCE.     
I'LL BE DELIVERING PRODUCE.     
IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET FRESH   
IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET FRESH   
PRODUCE.                        
PRODUCE.                        
IF YOU WANT TO KNOW MY OTHER    
IF YOU WANT TO KNOW MY OTHER    
EMPLOYER, LOOK ON HILLSBOROUGH  
EMPLOYER, LOOK ON HILLSBOROUGH  
COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE WEBSITE.
COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE WEBSITE.
THEY LIST ALL OUR PUBLIC        
THEY LIST ALL OUR PUBLIC        
INFORMATION, ALL THE PRIVATE    
INFORMATION, ALL THE PRIVATE    
INFORMATION THERE.              
INFORMATION THERE.              
THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE YOU MIGHT 
THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE YOU MIGHT 
WANT TO LOOK INTO.              
WANT TO LOOK INTO.              
MY COLLEAGUES WILL BE HITTING   
MY COLLEAGUES WILL BE HITTING   
YOU WITH THE FACTS.             
YOU WITH THE FACTS.             
I'M GOING TO GO FOR THE         
I'M GOING TO GO FOR THE         
EMOTIONAL APPEAL.               
EMOTIONAL APPEAL.               
YOU ALL AREN'T COMPLETELY       
YOU ALL AREN'T COMPLETELY       
DIFFERENT FROM THE POLICE AND   
DIFFERENT FROM THE POLICE AND   
THE JAILERS IN THE SENSE THAT   
THE JAILERS IN THE SENSE THAT   
YOU DO HAVE TO SEE US AS LESS   
YOU DO HAVE TO SEE US AS LESS   
THAN.                           
THAN.                           
I WON'T SAY SUBHUMAN, BUT LESS  
I WON'T SAY SUBHUMAN, BUT LESS  
THAN.                           
THAN.                           
YOU HAVE TO SEE US AS JUST AN   
YOU HAVE TO SEE US AS JUST AN   
ANGRY MOB OF KIDS SO YOU DON'T  
ANGRY MOB OF KIDS SO YOU DON'T  
HAVE TO LISTEN.                 
HAVE TO LISTEN.                 
NOW, I KNOW ALL OF OUR WORLD    
NOW, I KNOW ALL OF OUR WORLD    
VIEWS ARE SHAPED BY OUR PAST    
VIEWS ARE SHAPED BY OUR PAST    
EXPERIENCES AND WHO WE'RE       
EXPERIENCES AND WHO WE'RE       
CURRENTLY INTERACTING WITH.     
CURRENTLY INTERACTING WITH.     
I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE TIES TO THE 
I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE TIES TO THE 
POLICE COMMUNITY AND THE PBA,   
POLICE COMMUNITY AND THE PBA,   
BUT I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO       
BUT I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO       
MAGICALLY FLIP ALL YOUR         
MAGICALLY FLIP ALL YOUR         
VIEWPOINTS OVERNIGHT.           
VIEWPOINTS OVERNIGHT.           
HOWEVER, I DO EXPECT YOU TO TAKE
HOWEVER, I DO EXPECT YOU TO TAKE
THE TIME TO SIT DOWN AND LISTEN 
THE TIME TO SIT DOWN AND LISTEN 
TO WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY.         
TO WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY.         
BEFORE WE TURN INTO -- I TAUGHT 
BEFORE WE TURN INTO -- I TAUGHT 
ENGLISH IN TAIWAN, MOSTLY FIRST 
ENGLISH IN TAIWAN, MOSTLY FIRST 
AND SECOND GRADERS.             
AND SECOND GRADERS.             
I LEARNED SO MUCH MORE FROM THEM
I LEARNED SO MUCH MORE FROM THEM
THAN THEY LEARNED FROM ME.      
THAN THEY LEARNED FROM ME.      
IT BLEW THEIR MINDS.            
IT BLEW THEIR MINDS.            
KIDS AREN'T USED TO HEARING THAT
KIDS AREN'T USED TO HEARING THAT
FROM ADULTS, RIGHT?             
FROM ADULTS, RIGHT?             
>> MY NAME IS JOSEPH            
>> MY NAME IS JOSEPH            
McCLENNON.                      
McCLENNON.                      
I RESIDE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS,    
I RESIDE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS,    
FLORIDA.                        
FLORIDA.                        
I'M CALLING TO ADDRESS STAFF    
I'M CALLING TO ADDRESS STAFF    
REPORT 3 TODAY.                 
REPORT 3 TODAY.                 
WHILE I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA  
WHILE I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA  
TO COMPARE USE OF FORCE POLICIES
TO COMPARE USE OF FORCE POLICIES
TO THE OBAMA RECOMMENDATIONS, I 
TO THE OBAMA RECOMMENDATIONS, I 
BELIEVE THERE ARE THREE MAIN    
BELIEVE THERE ARE THREE MAIN    
ISSUES OF THIS.                 
ISSUES OF THIS.                 
MANY OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS --
MANY OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS --
DOJ REPORT ARE TOO AMBIGUOUS AND
DOJ REPORT ARE TOO AMBIGUOUS AND
LEAVES ROOM FOR ERROR IN THE    
LEAVES ROOM FOR ERROR IN THE    
PRESENTATION.                   
PRESENTATION.                   
THE SECOND ISSUE THAT COMES TO  
THE SECOND ISSUE THAT COMES TO  
MIND IF WE'RE GOING TO USE THE  
MIND IF WE'RE GOING TO USE THE  
RECOMMENDATIONS AS A MEASURING  
RECOMMENDATIONS AS A MEASURING  
STICK, WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE    
STICK, WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE    
RECOMMENDATIONS SURROUNDING USE 
RECOMMENDATIONS SURROUNDING USE 
OF FORCE POLICY.                
OF FORCE POLICY.                
ONE OF THESE THAT I KNOW THE    
ONE OF THESE THAT I KNOW THE    
PUBLIC HAS BEEN LOUD IN SUPPORT 
PUBLIC HAS BEEN LOUD IN SUPPORT 
OF, USE OF INDEPENDENT AND      
OF, USE OF INDEPENDENT AND      
THIRD-PARTY INVESTIGATORS, IN   
THIRD-PARTY INVESTIGATORS, IN   
SITUATIONS WHICH DEATH OR INJURY
SITUATIONS WHICH DEATH OR INJURY
OCCURRED IN POLICE BRUTALITY.   
OCCURRED IN POLICE BRUTALITY.   
I THINK OF JONAH JOSEPH AND HOW 
I THINK OF JONAH JOSEPH AND HOW 
CONTROVERSIAL THAT CURRENTLY IS 
CONTROVERSIAL THAT CURRENTLY IS 
IN TAMPA.                       
IN TAMPA.                       
MY THIRD AND BIGGEST ISSUE IS   
MY THIRD AND BIGGEST ISSUE IS   
THAT THERE ISN'T LEGITIMATE     
THAT THERE ISN'T LEGITIMATE     
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR OUR POLICE   
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR OUR POLICE   
FORCE RIGHT NOW.                
FORCE RIGHT NOW.                
IN THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, THEY
IN THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, THEY
HAVE BROKEN MANY OF THEIR OWN   
HAVE BROKEN MANY OF THEIR OWN   
CURRENT POLICIES, CURRENT       
CURRENT POLICIES, CURRENT       
POLICIES, SUCH AS INDISCRIMINATE
POLICIES, SUCH AS INDISCRIMINATE
USE OF PEPPER SPRAY, SEARCHING  
USE OF PEPPER SPRAY, SEARCHING  
OUR VIOLATORS OF THE LAW --     
OUR VIOLATORS OF THE LAW --     
PROSECUTING THE MAN WHO HIT HER 
PROSECUTING THE MAN WHO HIT HER 
WITH HIS TRUCK.                 
WITH HIS TRUCK.                 
ANOTHER POLICY THAT THEY HAVE   
ANOTHER POLICY THAT THEY HAVE   
BROKEN IS USING FORCE ONLY AFTER
BROKEN IS USING FORCE ONLY AFTER
ALL OTHER MEANS OF COMPLIANCE   
ALL OTHER MEANS OF COMPLIANCE   
HAS FAILED.                     
HAS FAILED.                     
OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, 
OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, 
I WITNESSED MULTIPLE AMBUSHES   
I WITNESSED MULTIPLE AMBUSHES   
FROM THE -- SQUAD THAT BEGINS   
FROM THE -- SQUAD THAT BEGINS   
AND ENDS WITH VIOLENCE IN THE   
AND ENDS WITH VIOLENCE IN THE   
FORM OF PEPPER SPRAY, TACKLING, 
FORM OF PEPPER SPRAY, TACKLING, 
HOLDING PEOPLE AGAINST ASPHALT. 
HOLDING PEOPLE AGAINST ASPHALT. 
ALSO GOES TO THE PLAINCLOTHES   
ALSO GOES TO THE PLAINCLOTHES   
UNIT, USING FOR TARGETED ARREST 
UNIT, USING FOR TARGETED ARREST 
OF PEACEFUL PROTESTORS AND      
OF PEACEFUL PROTESTORS AND      
SPYING PURPOSES.                
SPYING PURPOSES.                
ON THE 4th OF JULY, THE         
ON THE 4th OF JULY, THE         
PROTEST, UNDERCOVER COP WAS     
PROTEST, UNDERCOVER COP WAS     
CAUGHT VIDEOTAPING PROTESTORS   
CAUGHT VIDEOTAPING PROTESTORS   
AND THEN -- WHEN PEOPLE REALIZED
AND THEN -- WHEN PEOPLE REALIZED
WHAT HE WAS DOING.              
WHAT HE WAS DOING.              
THIS IS A BUNCH OF COLLEGE KIDS.
THIS IS A BUNCH OF COLLEGE KIDS.
WHY ARE WE WASTING RESOURCES    
WHY ARE WE WASTING RESOURCES    
LIKE THIS?                      
LIKE THIS?                      
PAYING CLOSE TO SIX FIGURES TO  
PAYING CLOSE TO SIX FIGURES TO  
SPY ON A BUNCH OF 20-YEAR-OLDS  
SPY ON A BUNCH OF 20-YEAR-OLDS  
PEACEFULLY PROTESTING.          
PEACEFULLY PROTESTING.          
WE NEED NEW POLICIES AND        
WE NEED NEW POLICIES AND        
SPECIFIC MEASURABLE PUNISHMENT  
SPECIFIC MEASURABLE PUNISHMENT  
FOR WHEN THESE POLICIES ARE     
FOR WHEN THESE POLICIES ARE     
BREACHED.                       
BREACHED.                       
IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO CREATE       
IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO CREATE       
POLICIES IF THEY AREN'T         
POLICIES IF THEY AREN'T         
LISTENING TO THEIR CURRENT      
LISTENING TO THEIR CURRENT      
POLICIES RIGHT NOW.             
POLICIES RIGHT NOW.             
WE NEED ACCOUNTABILITY AND WE   
WE NEED ACCOUNTABILITY AND WE   
NEED TRANSPARENCY.              
NEED TRANSPARENCY.              
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
>> MY NAME IS MADELL.           
>> MY NAME IS MADELL.           
2865 -- TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33613.  
2865 -- TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33613.  
I AM TIRED OF POLICE OFFICERS   
I AM TIRED OF POLICE OFFICERS   
NOT SERVING THEIR TRUE PURPOSE, 
NOT SERVING THEIR TRUE PURPOSE, 
WHICH IS PROTECTING ALL OF TAMPA
WHICH IS PROTECTING ALL OF TAMPA
CITIZENS.                       
CITIZENS.                       
OUR TAX DOLLARS GO TO THEM FOR  
OUR TAX DOLLARS GO TO THEM FOR  
WHAT?                           
WHAT?                           
SO THEY CAN BRUTALLY HURT       
SO THEY CAN BRUTALLY HURT       
PROTESTORS AND PROTECT THE      
PROTESTORS AND PROTECT THE      
PEOPLE WHO -- THEY DON'T FOLLOW 
PEOPLE WHO -- THEY DON'T FOLLOW 
THEIR OWN POLICIES.             
THEIR OWN POLICIES.             
THEY DON'T TRY TO DO ANYTHING.  
THEY DON'T TRY TO DO ANYTHING.  
THEY JUST USE IMMEDIATE FORCE OR
THEY JUST USE IMMEDIATE FORCE OR
THEY BRUTALLY HURT PEACEFUL     
THEY BRUTALLY HURT PEACEFUL     
PROTESTORS OR OTHER PEOPLE.     
PROTESTORS OR OTHER PEOPLE.     
THEY ALSO DON'T NEED ALL THAT   
THEY ALSO DON'T NEED ALL THAT   
MONEY OR MORE MONEY AND ALL     
MONEY OR MORE MONEY AND ALL     
THOSE TRAININGS.                
THOSE TRAININGS.                
THEY NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
THEY NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
FOR THEIR ACTIONS.              
FOR THEIR ACTIONS.              
TAKE AWAY THEIR PAYCHECKS,      
TAKE AWAY THEIR PAYCHECKS,      
RETIREMENT.                     
RETIREMENT.                     
TRULY DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS   
TRULY DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS   
COMMUNITY.                      
COMMUNITY.                      
WE NO LONGER FEEL SAFE AND WE   
WE NO LONGER FEEL SAFE AND WE   
DON'T WANT CASTOR'S BUDGET.     
DON'T WANT CASTOR'S BUDGET.     
WE DON'T WANT TO INCREASE THE   
WE DON'T WANT TO INCREASE THE   
POLICE BUDGET BY $13 MILLION.   
POLICE BUDGET BY $13 MILLION.   
WHAT ABOUT JUSTICE FOR JONAH    
WHAT ABOUT JUSTICE FOR JONAH    
JOSEPH AND ANDREW JOSEPH THE III
JOSEPH AND ANDREW JOSEPH THE III
WHO WERE BRUTALLY KILLED BY TPD.
WHO WERE BRUTALLY KILLED BY TPD.
THEY DESERVE JUSTICE.           
THEY DESERVE JUSTICE.           
THOSE POLICE OFFICERS SHOULD BE 
THOSE POLICE OFFICERS SHOULD BE 
TAKEN OUT OF THE POLICE FORCE.  
TAKEN OUT OF THE POLICE FORCE.  
THEY SHOULD NO LONGER BE        
THEY SHOULD NO LONGER BE        
PROTECTING -- AND I'M USING     
PROTECTING -- AND I'M USING     
QUOTES FOR THAT -- OUR          
QUOTES FOR THAT -- OUR          
COMMUNITIES.                    
COMMUNITIES.                    
DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR OUR       
DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR OUR       
COMMUNITIES AND PLEASE DO NOT   
COMMUNITIES AND PLEASE DO NOT   
INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR POLICE, 
INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR POLICE, 
FOR THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
FOR THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND PLEASE TRULY THINK ABOUT    
AND PLEASE TRULY THINK ABOUT    
WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO TO HOLD 
WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO TO HOLD 
THESE POLICE OFFICERS           
THESE POLICE OFFICERS           
ACCOUNTABLE.                    
ACCOUNTABLE.                    
THANKS.                         
THANKS.                         
>> GOOD MORNING.                
>> GOOD MORNING.                
MY NAME IS SOPHIA.              
MY NAME IS SOPHIA.              
I LIVE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.      
I LIVE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.      
I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCILMEN  
I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCILMEN  
AND STAFF FOR YOUR PATIENCE AS  
AND STAFF FOR YOUR PATIENCE AS  
THOSE OF US WHO DON'T NORMALLY  
THOSE OF US WHO DON'T NORMALLY  
PARTICIPATE IN THE DEMOCRATIC   
PARTICIPATE IN THE DEMOCRATIC   
PROCESS LOCALLY, LIKE MYSELF,   
PROCESS LOCALLY, LIKE MYSELF,   
LEARN TO DO SO.                 
LEARN TO DO SO.                 
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN GETTING CALLS
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN GETTING CALLS
AND E-MAILS ABOUT REALLOCATING  
AND E-MAILS ABOUT REALLOCATING  
FUNDS.                          
FUNDS.                          
I HOPE YOU REMAIN PATIENT AND   
I HOPE YOU REMAIN PATIENT AND   
OPEN TO TRYING SPECIFIC POLICIES
OPEN TO TRYING SPECIFIC POLICIES
TO BRING FORWARD.               
TO BRING FORWARD.               
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT STAFF      
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT STAFF      
REPORT THREE, THE USE OF FORCE  
REPORT THREE, THE USE OF FORCE  
POLICY THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA     
POLICY THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA     
ADVOCATED FOR IS VERY BROAD BUT 
ADVOCATED FOR IS VERY BROAD BUT 
IS ESSENTIAL IN DEMOCRACY.      
IS ESSENTIAL IN DEMOCRACY.      
MAKES A POINT THAT CITIZENS ARE 
MAKES A POINT THAT CITIZENS ARE 
-- TRUST THAT IT IS BEING       
-- TRUST THAT IT IS BEING       
ENFORCED JUSTLY.                
ENFORCED JUSTLY.                
IN FACT, THIS DOCUMENT IS ONLY  
IN FACT, THIS DOCUMENT IS ONLY  
ABOUT 110 PAGES LONG BUT        
ABOUT 110 PAGES LONG BUT        
MENTIONS THE WORD TRUST 114     
MENTIONS THE WORD TRUST 114     
TIMES.                          
TIMES.                          
TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICY  
TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICY  
ONLY STATE TRUST 11 TIMES.      
ONLY STATE TRUST 11 TIMES.      
TPD PROCESSES ARE 1,040 PAGES   
TPD PROCESSES ARE 1,040 PAGES   
LONG.                           
LONG.                           
READING THROUGH THEIR POLICIES  
READING THROUGH THEIR POLICIES  
THEY SEEM TO BE WRITTEN         
THEY SEEM TO BE WRITTEN         
REACTIVELY TO PROTECT OFFICERS  
REACTIVELY TO PROTECT OFFICERS  
RATHER THAN PROACTIVELY TO      
RATHER THAN PROACTIVELY TO      
PROTECT CITIZENS AND OFFICERS.  
PROTECT CITIZENS AND OFFICERS.  
HELP THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MOVE 
HELP THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MOVE 
IN THE DIRECTION OF THE         
IN THE DIRECTION OF THE         
FEDERALLY RECOMMENDED           
FEDERALLY RECOMMENDED           
GUIDELINES.                     
GUIDELINES.                     
IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT   
IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT   
POLICY IS JUST POLICY, RIGHT.   
POLICY IS JUST POLICY, RIGHT.   
THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE        
THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE        
INSTANCES OF TPD ABUSING THE    
INSTANCES OF TPD ABUSING THE    
PUBLIC'S TRUST.                 
PUBLIC'S TRUST.                 
PLAINCLOTHES OFFICERS ATTENDED A
PLAINCLOTHES OFFICERS ATTENDED A
PEACEFUL PROTEST SO THEY COULD  
PEACEFUL PROTEST SO THEY COULD  
TARGET AND ARREST THE           
TARGET AND ARREST THE           
ORGANIZERS.                     
ORGANIZERS.                     
WHEN THEY DID ARREST THE        
WHEN THEY DID ARREST THE        
ORGANIZERS, THEY USED MORE THAN 
ORGANIZERS, THEY USED MORE THAN 
THE FORCE NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE  
THE FORCE NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE  
COMPLIANCE.                     
COMPLIANCE.                     
THEY USED PEPPER SPRAY          
THEY USED PEPPER SPRAY          
INDISCRIMINATELY WHICH IS       
INDISCRIMINATELY WHICH IS       
EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN TO THEIR OWN
EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN TO THEIR OWN
POLICIES.                       
POLICIES.                       
THE POLICY STATES THEY ARE TO   
THE POLICY STATES THEY ARE TO   
USE SPRAY TO SAFELY ARREST AND  
USE SPRAY TO SAFELY ARREST AND  
DETAIN SUBJECTS, NOT CROWD      
DETAIN SUBJECTS, NOT CROWD      
CONTROL, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT  
CONTROL, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT  
THEY DID.                       
THEY DID.                       
AT THE SAME JULY 4th PROTEST,   
AT THE SAME JULY 4th PROTEST,   
A CAR DROVE THROUGH THE CROWD.  
A CAR DROVE THROUGH THE CROWD.  
TPD NOT SEARCH FOR THIS MAN,    
TPD NOT SEARCH FOR THIS MAN,    
WHICH WAS CAUGHT ON CAMERA,     
WHICH WAS CAUGHT ON CAMERA,     
UNTIL TWO MONTHS LATER.         
UNTIL TWO MONTHS LATER.         
IT LOOKS LIKE IT TOOK THE HIT   
IT LOOKS LIKE IT TOOK THE HIT   
AND RUN FOR TPD TO CHARGE THE   
AND RUN FOR TPD TO CHARGE THE   
4th OF JULY DRIVER WITH         
4th OF JULY DRIVER WITH         
RECKLESS DRIVING.               
RECKLESS DRIVING.               
THEY WERE AT A PEACEFUL PROTEST 
THEY WERE AT A PEACEFUL PROTEST 
WHEN A MAN STEPPED IN FRONT OF  
WHEN A MAN STEPPED IN FRONT OF  
THEM AS THEY LIGHTLY PUSHED HIM 
THEM AS THEY LIGHTLY PUSHED HIM 
FORWARD.                        
FORWARD.                        
THIS INCIDENT WAS CAUGHT ON     
THIS INCIDENT WAS CAUGHT ON     
CAMERA.                         
CAMERA.                         
HE WAS IN HANDCUFFS THAT SAME   
HE WAS IN HANDCUFFS THAT SAME   
NIGHT.                          
NIGHT.                          
AGAIN, FROM THE PUBLIC'S POINT  
AGAIN, FROM THE PUBLIC'S POINT  
OF VIEW, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE   
OF VIEW, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE   
TPD IS ENFORCING THE LAW        
TPD IS ENFORCING THE LAW        
IMPARTIALLY OR PROTECTING       
IMPARTIALLY OR PROTECTING       
CITIZENS IN THE LAW OF CIVIL    
CITIZENS IN THE LAW OF CIVIL    
RIGHTS.                         
RIGHTS.                         
WHILE I'M ASKING TO YOU ADOPT   
WHILE I'M ASKING TO YOU ADOPT   
PRESIDENT OBAMA'S POLICIES,     
PRESIDENT OBAMA'S POLICIES,     
GOING FORWARD, I AM ALSO URGING 
GOING FORWARD, I AM ALSO URGING 
YOU TO TAKE NOTES OF INSTANCES  
YOU TO TAKE NOTES OF INSTANCES  
LIKE THIS AND HOW THEY BREAK    
LIKE THIS AND HOW THEY BREAK    
TPD'S ALREADY EXISTING POLICIES 
TPD'S ALREADY EXISTING POLICIES 
AND IN TURN CREATE PUBLIC TRUST.
AND IN TURN CREATE PUBLIC TRUST.
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
>> WHAT I WAS SAYING, NEED TO   
>> WHAT I WAS SAYING, NEED TO   
IMMEDIATELY FIRE POLICE OFFICERS
IMMEDIATELY FIRE POLICE OFFICERS
-- WE NEED NO HIRING OF NEW     
-- WE NEED NO HIRING OF NEW     
OFFICERS OR -- REDUCE THE AMOUNT
OFFICERS OR -- REDUCE THE AMOUNT
OF POLICE THERE.                
OF POLICE THERE.                
WE'RE SAYING THERE IS A PROBLEM 
WE'RE SAYING THERE IS A PROBLEM 
WITH POLICING IN THE CITY.      
WITH POLICING IN THE CITY.      
WE ALSO NEED TO DEMAND THE RIGHT
WE ALSO NEED TO DEMAND THE RIGHT
THAT PROTESTORS RESPECTED AND   
THAT PROTESTORS RESPECTED AND   
PROTECTED.                      
PROTECTED.                      
SUCH AS VIOLATIONS OF PROPERTY  
SUCH AS VIOLATIONS OF PROPERTY  
-- DUE TO COVID AND THE CONCERNS
-- DUE TO COVID AND THE CONCERNS
HAVING THERE WE NEED TO RELEASE 
HAVING THERE WE NEED TO RELEASE 
ALL THE PEOPLE HELD AT THE -- ON
ALL THE PEOPLE HELD AT THE -- ON
PRETRIAL AND CIVIL VIOLATIONS   
PRETRIAL AND CIVIL VIOLATIONS   
BECAUSE THEY ONLY GO INTO THE   
BECAUSE THEY ONLY GO INTO THE   
PRISON SYSTEM TO GET COVID AND  
PRISON SYSTEM TO GET COVID AND  
GET SICK AND DIE.               
GET SICK AND DIE.               
PROCEDURES THAT DEAL WITH THE   
PROCEDURES THAT DEAL WITH THE   
SYSTEMIC ROOT OF CRIME AND NOT  
SYSTEMIC ROOT OF CRIME AND NOT  
COPS UNDERTRAINED FOR THE       
COPS UNDERTRAINED FOR THE       
SYSTEMIC ISSUES.                
SYSTEMIC ISSUES.                
ALL THE THINGS TO SAY THERE ARE 
ALL THE THINGS TO SAY THERE ARE 
A LOT OF ISSUES GOING ON AND WE 
A LOT OF ISSUES GOING ON AND WE 
DO NOT NEED -- THERE IS NO NEED 
DO NOT NEED -- THERE IS NO NEED 
CONSTANTLY PAYING MILLIONS AND  
CONSTANTLY PAYING MILLIONS AND  
MILLIONS INTO A BUDGET, INTO A  
MILLIONS INTO A BUDGET, INTO A  
CITY BUDGET THAT HAS NO MONEY   
CITY BUDGET THAT HAS NO MONEY   
ALLOCATED TOWARD AFFORDABLE     
ALLOCATED TOWARD AFFORDABLE     
HOUSING.                        
HOUSING.                        
NOTHING TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS 
NOTHING TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS 
AND HELP DEAL WITH THE ISSUES   
AND HELP DEAL WITH THE ISSUES   
THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE TAMPA A  
THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE TAMPA A  
MORE MARGINALIZED AND DISTRAUGHT
MORE MARGINALIZED AND DISTRAUGHT
LOCATION.                       
LOCATION.                       
AT 900 OFFICERS, TAMPA SHOULD BE
AT 900 OFFICERS, TAMPA SHOULD BE
FINE.                           
FINE.                           
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.        
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.        
>>THE CLERK: THANK YOU, CHAIR.  
>>THE CLERK: THANK YOU, CHAIR.  
THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC       
THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC       
COMMENTS PORTION OF THE AGENDA. 
COMMENTS PORTION OF THE AGENDA. 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
BEFORE WE BEGIN, I'D JUST LIKE  
BEFORE WE BEGIN, I'D JUST LIKE  
TO MAKE NOTE THAT AT AROUND 11, 
TO MAKE NOTE THAT AT AROUND 11, 
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HAS JUST --
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HAS JUST --
HE HAS TO LOG OFF FOR ABOUT 15  
HE HAS TO LOG OFF FOR ABOUT 15  
MINUTES REGARDING A WORK MATTER.
MINUTES REGARDING A WORK MATTER.
AND THEN HE WILL BE RECONNECTING
AND THEN HE WILL BE RECONNECTING
WITH US.                        
WITH US.                        
I MENTIONED THE CONTINUANCE OF  
I MENTIONED THE CONTINUANCE OF  
THE ONE ITEM, WHICH COUNCIL     
THE ONE ITEM, WHICH COUNCIL     
MEMBER, GUDES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
MEMBER, GUDES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THAT  
MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THAT  
ITEM, WHICH WAS THE DIVERSITY   
ITEM, WHICH WAS THE DIVERSITY   
NUMBER OF TPD FOR THE LAST TEN  
NUMBER OF TPD FOR THE LAST TEN  
YEARS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT
YEARS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT
AT THIS TIME?                   
AT THIS TIME?                   
>>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MR.       
>>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MR.       
CHAIRMAN.                       
CHAIRMAN.                       
MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 3
MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 3
FROM AUGUST 27, 2020 WORKSHOP   
FROM AUGUST 27, 2020 WORKSHOP   
AGENDA AND ADD TO THE SEPTEMBER 
AGENDA AND ADD TO THE SEPTEMBER 
24 WORKSHOP AGENDA.             
24 WORKSHOP AGENDA.             
EZ 2020-8 CH, REPORT ON THE     
EZ 2020-8 CH, REPORT ON THE     
DIVERSITY NUMBERS OVER THE LAST 
DIVERSITY NUMBERS OVER THE LAST 
TEN YEARS.                      
TEN YEARS.                      
>>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.         
>>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND.         
CITRO.                          
CITRO.                          
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION ON  
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION ON  
THE MOTION.                     
THE MOTION.                     
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES,        
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES,        
COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.          
COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.          
GO AHEAD.                       
GO AHEAD.                       
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU,   
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU,   
MR. CHAIRMAN.                   
MR. CHAIRMAN.                   
THANK YOU, MR. CITRO, MR. GUDES 
THANK YOU, MR. CITRO, MR. GUDES 
FOR MAKING THAT.                
FOR MAKING THAT.                
I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO THIS  
I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO THIS  
FOR A SECOND.                   
FOR A SECOND.                   
I THINK TPD MADE A GOOD FIRST   
I THINK TPD MADE A GOOD FIRST   
START WHEN THEY RESPONDED TO OUR
START WHEN THEY RESPONDED TO OUR
MOTION, BUT THEY PROVIDED --    
MOTION, BUT THEY PROVIDED --    
CHIEF, I KNOW YOU'RE ON THE     
CHIEF, I KNOW YOU'RE ON THE     
LINE.                           
LINE.                           
YOU GUYS PROVIDED THE DATA AS   
YOU GUYS PROVIDED THE DATA AS   
RELATED TO SOME EEO STANDARDS   
RELATED TO SOME EEO STANDARDS   
THAT WE'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH.   
THAT WE'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH.   
I KNOW YOU GUYS WORK WITH THOSE 
I KNOW YOU GUYS WORK WITH THOSE 
STANDARDS I'M SURE REGULARLY AND
STANDARDS I'M SURE REGULARLY AND
YOUR HR PEOPLE DO, BUT IN       
YOUR HR PEOPLE DO, BUT IN       
SHOWING US, YOU KNOW, HOW TPD   
SHOWING US, YOU KNOW, HOW TPD   
DID AS RELATED TO THESE EEO     
DID AS RELATED TO THESE EEO     
STANDARDS, IT DOESN'T REALLY    
STANDARDS, IT DOESN'T REALLY    
TELL US ANYTHING.               
TELL US ANYTHING.               
I THINK COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS    
I THINK COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS    
CORRECT TO REQUEST THAT WE SEE  
CORRECT TO REQUEST THAT WE SEE  
THE RAW NUMBERS.                
THE RAW NUMBERS.                
AT LEAST THAT WAY WHEN WE SEE   
AT LEAST THAT WAY WHEN WE SEE   
THE RAW NUMBERS, WE CAN DRAW OUR
THE RAW NUMBERS, WE CAN DRAW OUR
OWN CONCLUSIONS AND HAVE A MORE 
OWN CONCLUSIONS AND HAVE A MORE 
INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION.       
INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION.       
I SUPPORT THE MOTION AND JUST   
I SUPPORT THE MOTION AND JUST   
WANTED TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT. 
WANTED TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT. 
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
COUNCILMAN GUDES.               
COUNCILMAN GUDES.               
>>ORLANDO GUDES: I DID RECEIVE  
>>ORLANDO GUDES: I DID RECEIVE  
THE MEMORANDUM FROM CHIEF DUGAN.
THE MEMORANDUM FROM CHIEF DUGAN.
AGAIN, WHAT MR. DINGFELDER SAID,
AGAIN, WHAT MR. DINGFELDER SAID,
IT WASN'T VERY CLEAR WHAT WE    
IT WASN'T VERY CLEAR WHAT WE    
WERE ASKING FOR AND NOT         
WERE ASKING FOR AND NOT         
KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE EEOC TYPE  
KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE EEOC TYPE  
GUIDELINE.                      
GUIDELINE.                      
I SENT A MEMO TO ALL COUNCIL    
I SENT A MEMO TO ALL COUNCIL    
MEMBERS AND CHIEF DUGAN, CHIEF  
MEMBERS AND CHIEF DUGAN, CHIEF  
OF STAFF, ASKING FOR MORE       
OF STAFF, ASKING FOR MORE       
INFORMATION AND VARIOUS         
INFORMATION AND VARIOUS         
DIFFERENT ITEMS IN THE MEMO THAT
DIFFERENT ITEMS IN THE MEMO THAT
I THINK THE RAW NUMBERS AND THE 
I THINK THE RAW NUMBERS AND THE 
IDEA OF HOW THE POLICE          
IDEA OF HOW THE POLICE          
DEPARTMENT OPERATES AND WORKS.  
DEPARTMENT OPERATES AND WORKS.  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
GUDES.                          
GUDES.                          
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
CITRO.                          
CITRO.                          
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS  
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS  
MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO 
MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO 
THE SEPTEMBER 24th WORKSHOP?    
THE SEPTEMBER 24th WORKSHOP?    
ANY OBJECTION?                  
ANY OBJECTION?                  
SEEING NONE -- HEARING NONE,    
SEEING NONE -- HEARING NONE,    
MOVED BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.     
MOVED BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.     
>>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?  
>>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR,   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR,   
COUNCILMAN GUDES.               
COUNCILMAN GUDES.               
>>ORLANDO GUDES: A POINT OF     
>>ORLANDO GUDES: A POINT OF     
PRIVILEGE BEFORE YOU GET INTO   
PRIVILEGE BEFORE YOU GET INTO   
YOUR AGENDA, IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME 
YOUR AGENDA, IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME 
PLEASE, SIR.                    
PLEASE, SIR.                    
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO
AHEAD.                          
AHEAD.                          
>>ORLANDO GUDES: SIR, IN 1971 --
>>ORLANDO GUDES: SIR, IN 1971 --
YESTERDAY, AUGUST 26 AS WOMEN'S 
YESTERDAY, AUGUST 26 AS WOMEN'S 
EQUALITY DAY TO COMMEMORATE THE 
EQUALITY DAY TO COMMEMORATE THE 
PASSAGE OF THE 19th AMENDMENT   
PASSAGE OF THE 19th AMENDMENT   
WHICH GENERATED -- WHICH        
WHICH GENERATED -- WHICH        
GUARANTEES ALL WOMEN THE RIGHT  
GUARANTEES ALL WOMEN THE RIGHT  
TO VOTE.                        
TO VOTE.                        
THIS YEAR IS THE 100th          
THIS YEAR IS THE 100th          
ANNIVERSARY OF THE AMENDMENT.   
ANNIVERSARY OF THE AMENDMENT.   
ALTHOUGH DID NOT IMMEDIATELY    
ALTHOUGH DID NOT IMMEDIATELY    
BREAK DOWN VOTING BARRIERS FOR  
BREAK DOWN VOTING BARRIERS FOR  
ALL WOMEN, EVEN TODAY, THERE'S  
ALL WOMEN, EVEN TODAY, THERE'S  
MORE WORK TO BE DONE.           
MORE WORK TO BE DONE.           
THIS YEAR PARTICULARLY IS       
THIS YEAR PARTICULARLY IS       
IMPORTANT, TO RECOGNIZE THE     
IMPORTANT, TO RECOGNIZE THE     
ACHIEVEMENTS OF THE WOMEN'S     
ACHIEVEMENTS OF THE WOMEN'S     
RIGHTS MOVEMENT AS WE'RE SEEING 
RIGHTS MOVEMENT AS WE'RE SEEING 
MORE FEMALE COMMENTS RUNNING FOR
MORE FEMALE COMMENTS RUNNING FOR
OFFICE IN 2020, ESPECIALLY WITH 
OFFICE IN 2020, ESPECIALLY WITH 
THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN
THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN
OF THE UNITED STATES.           
OF THE UNITED STATES.           
NOT ONLY DURING BLACK HISTORY   
NOT ONLY DURING BLACK HISTORY   
MONTH, TODAY WE ACKNOWLEDGE ALL 
MONTH, TODAY WE ACKNOWLEDGE ALL 
THE WOMEN WHO PAVED THE WAY.    
THE WOMEN WHO PAVED THE WAY.    
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.        
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.        
I YIELD BACK.                   
I YIELD BACK.                   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.    
I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.    
ALL RIGHT.                      
ALL RIGHT.                      
WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO THE      
WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO THE      
AGENDA.                         
AGENDA.                         
WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 1, WHICH IS 
WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 1, WHICH IS 
MS. JUDY LISI FROM THE STRAZ    
MS. JUDY LISI FROM THE STRAZ    
CENTER, WITH A PRESENTATION OF  
CENTER, WITH A PRESENTATION OF  
ABOUT TEN MINUTES OR SO.        
ABOUT TEN MINUTES OR SO.        
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN, JUDY
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN, JUDY
LISI, GO AHEAD.                 
LISI, GO AHEAD.                 
IF YOU ARE MUTED, PLEASE UNMUTE 
IF YOU ARE MUTED, PLEASE UNMUTE 
YOURSELF.                       
YOURSELF.                       
>>JUDITH LISI: GOOD MORNING,    
>>JUDITH LISI: GOOD MORNING,    
EVERYONE.                       
EVERYONE.                       
JUDY LISI, CEO OF THE STRAZ     
JUDY LISI, CEO OF THE STRAZ     
CENTER.                         
CENTER.                         
I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY 
I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY 
TO REPORT TO YOU TODAY.         
TO REPORT TO YOU TODAY.         
I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT 
I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT 
THAT YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THE     
THAT YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THE     
PANDEMIC HAS AFFECTED THIS      
PANDEMIC HAS AFFECTED THIS      
IMPORTANT CITY INSTITUTION AND  
IMPORTANT CITY INSTITUTION AND  
HOW WE ARE -- THE CHALLENGES WE 
HOW WE ARE -- THE CHALLENGES WE 
ARE FACING, AND HOW WE THINK    
ARE FACING, AND HOW WE THINK    
WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET   
WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET   
THROUGH THEM.                   
THROUGH THEM.                   
AS YOU KNOW, FOR 33 YEARS, THE  
AS YOU KNOW, FOR 33 YEARS, THE  
STRAZ CENTER HAS SERVED OUR     
STRAZ CENTER HAS SERVED OUR     
COMMUNITY AS A PREMIER          
COMMUNITY AS A PREMIER          
PERFORMING ARTS AND EVENT       
PERFORMING ARTS AND EVENT       
FACILITY AND ANCHOR INSTITUTION.
FACILITY AND ANCHOR INSTITUTION.
AS ONE OF THE FIRST MAJOR       
AS ONE OF THE FIRST MAJOR       
PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS IN  
PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS IN  
THE CITY OF TAMPA AND UNDER THE 
THE CITY OF TAMPA AND UNDER THE 
LEADERSHIP OF THE THEN MAYOR BOB
LEADERSHIP OF THE THEN MAYOR BOB
MARTINEZ AND OTHER VISIONARIES, 
MARTINEZ AND OTHER VISIONARIES, 
THE STRAZ CENTER OPENED IN 1987 
THE STRAZ CENTER OPENED IN 1987 
AND HAS BECOME ONE OF THE       
AND HAS BECOME ONE OF THE       
LEADING PERFORMING ARTS CENTERS 
LEADING PERFORMING ARTS CENTERS 
IN THE NATION.                  
IN THE NATION.                  
WE ARE 435,000-SQUARE-FOOT      
WE ARE 435,000-SQUARE-FOOT      
FACILITY, AND THE VALUE NOW IS  
FACILITY, AND THE VALUE NOW IS  
APPROXIMATELY $800 MILLION CITY 
APPROXIMATELY $800 MILLION CITY 
OF TAMPA ASSET.                 
OF TAMPA ASSET.                 
WITH FIVE INDOOR THEATERS, A    
WITH FIVE INDOOR THEATERS, A    
TEACHING AND TRAINING           
TEACHING AND TRAINING           
CONSERVATORY, PERMANENT OUTDOOR 
CONSERVATORY, PERMANENT OUTDOOR 
STAGE ON THE RIVERWALK, THE     
STAGE ON THE RIVERWALK, THE     
STRAZ CENTER IS A COMMUNITY HUB 
STRAZ CENTER IS A COMMUNITY HUB 
SERVING 700,000 PEOPLE EACH YEAR
SERVING 700,000 PEOPLE EACH YEAR
AND A WORKFORCE OF MORE THAN    
AND A WORKFORCE OF MORE THAN    
500.                            
500.                            
IT'S AN ECONOMIC GENERATOR,     
IT'S AN ECONOMIC GENERATOR,     
FUELING AN ANNUAL ECONOMIC      
FUELING AN ANNUAL ECONOMIC      
IMPACT OF MORE THAN $130 MILLION
IMPACT OF MORE THAN $130 MILLION
A YEAR, INCLUDING $3 MILLION IN 
A YEAR, INCLUDING $3 MILLION IN 
LOCAL TAX REVENUE.              
LOCAL TAX REVENUE.              
IT IS A CATALYST FOR TOURISM AND
IT IS A CATALYST FOR TOURISM AND
HOSPITALITY, DRIVING BUSINESSES 
HOSPITALITY, DRIVING BUSINESSES 
TO LOCAL RESTAURANTS, HOTELS,   
TO LOCAL RESTAURANTS, HOTELS,   
AND ATTRACTING STATE, NATIONAL, 
AND ATTRACTING STATE, NATIONAL, 
AND INTERNATIONAL VISITORS.     
AND INTERNATIONAL VISITORS.     
IT'S AN ESSENTIAL VENUE FOR     
IT'S AN ESSENTIAL VENUE FOR     
MAJOR NATIONAL EVENTS, FOR CIVIC
MAJOR NATIONAL EVENTS, FOR CIVIC
COMMUNITY EVENTS AND FOR        
COMMUNITY EVENTS AND FOR        
NUMEROUS LOCAL CULTURAL         
NUMEROUS LOCAL CULTURAL         
ORGANIZATIONS.                  
ORGANIZATIONS.                  
IT IS A WORLD-CLASS RESOURCE FOR
IT IS A WORLD-CLASS RESOURCE FOR
LEARNING AND ARTS EDUCATION,    
LEARNING AND ARTS EDUCATION,    
BOTH ON-SITE AND THROUGH 52     
BOTH ON-SITE AND THROUGH 52     
COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS.         
COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS.         
IT IS A LEADER IN THE INDUSTRY  
IT IS A LEADER IN THE INDUSTRY  
WITH ONE OF THE COUNTRY'S MOST  
WITH ONE OF THE COUNTRY'S MOST  
IMPORTANT BROADWAY MARKETS.     
IMPORTANT BROADWAY MARKETS.     
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE ARE THE  
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE ARE THE  
HOME FOR WORLD-CLASS ARTISTS    
HOME FOR WORLD-CLASS ARTISTS    
FROM ALL THE PERFORMING ARTS    
FROM ALL THE PERFORMING ARTS    
GENRES IN THE WORLD.            
GENRES IN THE WORLD.            
WE ARE CALLING THIS TIME THAT WE
WE ARE CALLING THIS TIME THAT WE
ARE DARK OUR GREAT INTERMISSION.
ARE DARK OUR GREAT INTERMISSION.
BUT WE ARE NOT TOTALLY          
BUT WE ARE NOT TOTALLY          
SHUTTERED.                      
SHUTTERED.                      
WITH INPUT FROM HEALTH ADVISORS 
WITH INPUT FROM HEALTH ADVISORS 
AT TGH, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO      
AT TGH, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO      
MANAGE SOME ON-SITE ACTIVITY AND
MANAGE SOME ON-SITE ACTIVITY AND
TREMENDOUS IMPROVEMENTS TAKING  
TREMENDOUS IMPROVEMENTS TAKING  
PLACE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO OUR  
PLACE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO OUR  
BUILDING.                       
BUILDING.                       
WE HAVE CONTINUED PERFORMING    
WE HAVE CONTINUED PERFORMING    
ARTS INSTRUCTION IN DANCE,      
ARTS INSTRUCTION IN DANCE,      
THEATER, MUSIC AT OUR PATEL     
THEATER, MUSIC AT OUR PATEL     
CONSERVATORY.                   
CONSERVATORY.                   
WE ARE BUILDING VERIZON WIRELESS
WE ARE BUILDING VERIZON WIRELESS
INFRASTRUCTURE IS BEING         
INFRASTRUCTURE IS BEING         
INSTALLED TO PROVIDE SUPERIOR   
INSTALLED TO PROVIDE SUPERIOR   
CONNECTIVITY.                   
CONNECTIVITY.                   
I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY KNOWS 
I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY KNOWS 
THIS, BUT BECAUSE OF THE SUPER  
THIS, BUT BECAUSE OF THE SUPER  
BOWL, WE ARE HOSTING THE        
BOWL, WE ARE HOSTING THE        
NATIONALLY TELEVISED NFL        
NATIONALLY TELEVISED NFL        
NATIONAL AWARDS GALA.           
NATIONAL AWARDS GALA.           
WE HOST NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED   
WE HOST NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED   
ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY.          
ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY.          
WE'RE USING OUR PERFORING ARTS  
WE'RE USING OUR PERFORING ARTS  
CENTER AS A PRODUCTION COMPANY  
CENTER AS A PRODUCTION COMPANY  
FOR A MAJOR ENTERTAINMENT       
FOR A MAJOR ENTERTAINMENT       
COMPANY WITH A MAJOR STAR THAT  
COMPANY WITH A MAJOR STAR THAT  
WILL STREAM GLOBALLY.           
WILL STREAM GLOBALLY.           
WE'RE HOPING TO DO MORE OF THIS 
WE'RE HOPING TO DO MORE OF THIS 
KIND OF WORK WHILE WE'RE DARK.  
KIND OF WORK WHILE WE'RE DARK.  
THE STREETS AROUND THE STRAZ    
THE STREETS AROUND THE STRAZ    
CENTER ARE BEING REALIGNED TO   
CENTER ARE BEING REALIGNED TO   
PROVIDE IMPROVED TRAFFIC        
PROVIDE IMPROVED TRAFFIC        
CIRCULATION AND MAKE WAY FOR THE
CIRCULATION AND MAKE WAY FOR THE
30-PLUS STORY AIR TOWER         
30-PLUS STORY AIR TOWER         
APARTMENT BUILDING.             
APARTMENT BUILDING.             
CONSTRUCTION IS WELL UNDERWAY OF
CONSTRUCTION IS WELL UNDERWAY OF
THE 340 UNIT MILLCREEK APARTMENT
THE 340 UNIT MILLCREEK APARTMENT
COMPLEX RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET 
COMPLEX RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET 
FROM US.                        
FROM US.                        
AND EXPANSION AND IMPROVEMENTS  
AND EXPANSION AND IMPROVEMENTS  
TO OUR ARRIVAL PLAZA AND TAMPA  
TO OUR ARRIVAL PLAZA AND TAMPA  
RIVERWALK ON THE SOUTHERN EDGE  
RIVERWALK ON THE SOUTHERN EDGE  
OF OUR CAMPUS ARE MOVING AHEAD. 
OF OUR CAMPUS ARE MOVING AHEAD. 
HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE         
HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE         
PANDEMIC, OUR BUSINESS AND      
PANDEMIC, OUR BUSINESS AND      
REVENUE HAS SIMPLY GROUND TO A  
REVENUE HAS SIMPLY GROUND TO A  
HALT SINCE MARCH 13.            
HALT SINCE MARCH 13.            
THAT MEANS WE'VE HAD NO REVENUE 
THAT MEANS WE'VE HAD NO REVENUE 
AT ALL SINCE MARCH 13.          
AT ALL SINCE MARCH 13.          
BECAUSE WE ARE A GATHERING      
BECAUSE WE ARE A GATHERING      
PLACE, AND WE'RE SOMEWHAT       
PLACE, AND WE'RE SOMEWHAT       
DIFFERENT FROM MUSEUMS AND      
DIFFERENT FROM MUSEUMS AND      
AQUARIUMS.                      
AQUARIUMS.                      
WE'RE REALLY MORE LIKE THE      
WE'RE REALLY MORE LIKE THE      
STADIUMS AND THE ARENA BECAUSE  
STADIUMS AND THE ARENA BECAUSE  
WE'RE A MASS GATHERING PLACE,   
WE'RE A MASS GATHERING PLACE,   
BUT IT'S PLACES LIKE OURS HERE  
BUT IT'S PLACES LIKE OURS HERE  
AND AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT WERE
AND AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT WERE
THE FIRST TO CLOSE AND ARE GOING
THE FIRST TO CLOSE AND ARE GOING
TO BE THE LAST TO OPEN.         
TO BE THE LAST TO OPEN.         
AND WE MIGHT BE LIKE THIS       
AND WE MIGHT BE LIKE THIS       
POTENTIALLY TILL LATE IN 2021.  
POTENTIALLY TILL LATE IN 2021.  
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TOURING      
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TOURING      
BROADWAY AND WHY IT'S SO        
BROADWAY AND WHY IT'S SO        
IMPORTANT TO US, BROADWAY, AS   
IMPORTANT TO US, BROADWAY, AS   
YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN COMPLETELY   
YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN COMPLETELY   
SHUT DOWN, AS HAS TOURING       
SHUT DOWN, AS HAS TOURING       
BROADWAY.                       
BROADWAY.                       
AND WHY IS THAT SO IMPORTANT TO 
AND WHY IS THAT SO IMPORTANT TO 
US?                             
US?                             
WE ARE ONE OF THE MAJOR BROADWAY
WE ARE ONE OF THE MAJOR BROADWAY
MARKETS IN THE UNITED STATES.   
MARKETS IN THE UNITED STATES.   
WE BRING IN A MINIMUM OF 60     
WE BRING IN A MINIMUM OF 60     
MAJOR SHOWS A YEAR.             
MAJOR SHOWS A YEAR.             
THAT CONSISTS OF 15 TO 30       
THAT CONSISTS OF 15 TO 30       
SEMITRUCKS COMING IN, HUNDREDS  
SEMITRUCKS COMING IN, HUNDREDS  
OF PERFORMING ARTISTS HERE,     
OF PERFORMING ARTISTS HERE,     
TECHNICAL STAGE CREW, BUSINESS  
TECHNICAL STAGE CREW, BUSINESS  
OPERATORS FOR MULTIPLE WEEKS WHO
OPERATORS FOR MULTIPLE WEEKS WHO
STAY IN OUR HOTELS, EAT IN OUR  
STAY IN OUR HOTELS, EAT IN OUR  
RESTAURANTS AND BUY GOODS AND   
RESTAURANTS AND BUY GOODS AND   
SERVICES FROM OUR VENDORS.      
SERVICES FROM OUR VENDORS.      
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S 70%  
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S 70%  
OF OUR EARNED REVENUE.          
OF OUR EARNED REVENUE.          
AND THAT ALSO FUELS OUR FOOD AND
AND THAT ALSO FUELS OUR FOOD AND
BEVERAGE FUNDING AS WELL.       
BEVERAGE FUNDING AS WELL.       
THAT ACTUALLY PAYS FOR KEEPING  
THAT ACTUALLY PAYS FOR KEEPING  
UP THE FACILITY AND ALSO HELPING
UP THE FACILITY AND ALSO HELPING
US WITH SUBSIDY FOR OUR OTHER   
US WITH SUBSIDY FOR OUR OTHER   
MISSION DRIVEN ARTS AND         
MISSION DRIVEN ARTS AND         
EDUCATION PROGRAMS.             
EDUCATION PROGRAMS.             
WE'VE HAD TO CUT OUR WORKFORCE  
WE'VE HAD TO CUT OUR WORKFORCE  
TO THE CORE.                    
TO THE CORE.                    
WE HAD AN AMAZING WORKFORCE OF  
WE HAD AN AMAZING WORKFORCE OF  
500 DEDICATED EMPLOYEES, AND WE 
500 DEDICATED EMPLOYEES, AND WE 
BARELY HAVE ENOUGH NOW TO KEEP  
BARELY HAVE ENOUGH NOW TO KEEP  
OUR BASIC OPERATIONS AND TO     
OUR BASIC OPERATIONS AND TO     
PROTECT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND  
PROTECT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND  
STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY.      
STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY.      
WE HAVE MANY COMPLEX SYSTEMS IN 
WE HAVE MANY COMPLEX SYSTEMS IN 
THIS $800 MILLION COMPLEX THAT  
THIS $800 MILLION COMPLEX THAT  
HAVE TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.       
HAVE TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.       
SO OUR BUSINESS MODEL IS        
SO OUR BUSINESS MODEL IS        
SEVERELY CHALLENGED.            
SEVERELY CHALLENGED.            
ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE IS WE 
ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE IS WE 
CAN'T OPERATE WITH SOCIAL       
CAN'T OPERATE WITH SOCIAL       
DISTANCING BECAUSE IT COSTS TOO 
DISTANCING BECAUSE IT COSTS TOO 
MUCH TO DO THESE SHOWS.         
MUCH TO DO THESE SHOWS.         
SO WE HAVE TO OPERATE AT 100%   
SO WE HAVE TO OPERATE AT 100%   
CAPACITY.                       
CAPACITY.                       
AND THAT IS WHY IT'S GOING TO   
AND THAT IS WHY IT'S GOING TO   
TAKE US SO LONG TO BE ABLE TO   
TAKE US SO LONG TO BE ABLE TO   
REOPEN.                         
REOPEN.                         
NOW, I'LL TELL YOU HOW WE'RE    
NOW, I'LL TELL YOU HOW WE'RE    
LOOKING TO GET FROM HERE TO     
LOOKING TO GET FROM HERE TO     
THERE.                          
THERE.                          
WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY.  
WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY.  
HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOME FUNDING
HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOME FUNDING
FROM THE CARES ACT THAT WILL    
FROM THE CARES ACT THAT WILL    
FUND OUR EXTENSIVE MITIGATION   
FUND OUR EXTENSIVE MITIGATION   
AND HEALTH PROTOCOLS THAT ARE   
AND HEALTH PROTOCOLS THAT ARE   
GOING TO BE ESSENTIAL FOR US TO 
GOING TO BE ESSENTIAL FOR US TO 
REOPEN.                         
REOPEN.                         
BECAUSE AS YOU'VE SEEN WITH OUR 
BECAUSE AS YOU'VE SEEN WITH OUR 
SPORTS ATHLETES, OUR ARTISTS ARE
SPORTS ATHLETES, OUR ARTISTS ARE
THE SAME WAY.                   
THE SAME WAY.                   
IN ORDER FOR OUR ARTISTS TO BE  
IN ORDER FOR OUR ARTISTS TO BE  
ABLE TO BE ONSTAGE, OUR         
ABLE TO BE ONSTAGE, OUR         
MUSICIANS, OUR DANCERS, THEY    
MUSICIANS, OUR DANCERS, THEY    
HAVE GOT TO BE ABLE TO DO IT IN 
HAVE GOT TO BE ABLE TO DO IT IN 
A SAFE WAY AND WE'RE WORKING    
A SAFE WAY AND WE'RE WORKING    
VERY HARD WITH ALL OF THE ARTIST
VERY HARD WITH ALL OF THE ARTIST
UNIONS IN THE COUNTRY TO SEE HOW
UNIONS IN THE COUNTRY TO SEE HOW
WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK.          
WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK.          
BUT WE HAVE TO SPEND A GREAT    
BUT WE HAVE TO SPEND A GREAT    
DEAL OF MONEY TO CREATE A SAFE  
DEAL OF MONEY TO CREATE A SAFE  
ENVIRONMENT FOR THEM AND FOR OUR
ENVIRONMENT FOR THEM AND FOR OUR
700,000 ATTENDEES EVERY YEAR.   
700,000 ATTENDEES EVERY YEAR.   
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH COUNTY    
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH COUNTY    
ADMINISTRATOR BONNIE WISE AND   
ADMINISTRATOR BONNIE WISE AND   
HER TEAM, TOM FESSLER AND       
HER TEAM, TOM FESSLER AND       
OTHERS, WHO ARE HELPING US WORK 
OTHERS, WHO ARE HELPING US WORK 
THROUGH THIS AND ALSO WITH JOHN 
THROUGH THIS AND ALSO WITH JOHN 
BENNETT WITH THE CITY AND JOHN  
BENNETT WITH THE CITY AND JOHN  
IS ALSO ON OUR BOARD.           
IS ALSO ON OUR BOARD.           
HOWEVER, AT SOME POINT, BECAUSE 
HOWEVER, AT SOME POINT, BECAUSE 
THE PANDEMIC IS MUCH LONGER, I  
THE PANDEMIC IS MUCH LONGER, I  
THINK, THAN ANY OF US           
THINK, THAN ANY OF US           
ANTICIPATED, WE KNOW THAT WE    
ANTICIPATED, WE KNOW THAT WE    
PROBABLY ARE GOING TO NEED      
PROBABLY ARE GOING TO NEED      
SUPPORT FOR MUCH LONGER THAN WE 
SUPPORT FOR MUCH LONGER THAN WE 
THOUGHT.                        
THOUGHT.                        
I WILL SAY WE DID GET THE PPP   
I WILL SAY WE DID GET THE PPP   
LOAN AND THAT HELPED US GET     
LOAN AND THAT HELPED US GET     
THROUGH TO THE END OF THIS      
THROUGH TO THE END OF THIS      
CALENDAR YEAR.                  
CALENDAR YEAR.                  
SO THAT'S BEEN A REALLY GOOD    
SO THAT'S BEEN A REALLY GOOD    
THING.                          
THING.                          
FRANKLY, OUR HOPE IS THAT AFTER 
FRANKLY, OUR HOPE IS THAT AFTER 
THE ELECTION, FROM WHAT WE      
THE ELECTION, FROM WHAT WE      
UNDERSTAND, THERE'S GOING TO BE 
UNDERSTAND, THERE'S GOING TO BE 
ANOTHER ACT CALLED THE RESTART  
ANOTHER ACT CALLED THE RESTART  
ACT, THAT'S GOING TO BE         
ACT, THAT'S GOING TO BE         
SPECIFICALLY FOR BUSINESSES LIKE
SPECIFICALLY FOR BUSINESSES LIKE
OURS THAT ARE GOING TO BE THE   
OURS THAT ARE GOING TO BE THE   
LAST TO OPEN.                   
LAST TO OPEN.                   
AND THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER      
AND THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER      
OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME CONTINUED  
OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME CONTINUED  
PPP SUPPORT, OTHER LOANS.       
PPP SUPPORT, OTHER LOANS.       
WE'RE NOT SURE YET.             
WE'RE NOT SURE YET.             
WE HAVE TO WAIT.                
WE HAVE TO WAIT.                
BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW IS WE'RE    
BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW IS WE'RE    
GOING TO HAVE TO FIND FUNDING   
GOING TO HAVE TO FIND FUNDING   
FROM SOMEWHERE TO GET US FROM   
FROM SOMEWHERE TO GET US FROM   
WHERE WE TODAY TO WHEN WE'RE    
WHERE WE TODAY TO WHEN WE'RE    
ABLE TO RESUME WHAT WAS A VERY  
ABLE TO RESUME WHAT WAS A VERY  
SUCCESSFUL OPERATION FOR EARNED 
SUCCESSFUL OPERATION FOR EARNED 
REVENUE AND REALLY MADE OUR     
REVENUE AND REALLY MADE OUR     
PERFORMING ARTS CENTER SO       
PERFORMING ARTS CENTER SO       
STRONG.                         
STRONG.                         
SO WE'RE NOT DAUNTED BY OUR     
SO WE'RE NOT DAUNTED BY OUR     
CHALLENGES.                     
CHALLENGES.                     
OUR STRAZ CENTER STAFF, WHO ARE 
OUR STRAZ CENTER STAFF, WHO ARE 
WITH US ARE WORKING VERY, VERY  
WITH US ARE WORKING VERY, VERY  
HARD ON OUR REOPENING PLAN TO   
HARD ON OUR REOPENING PLAN TO   
BEGIN REBUILDING OUR OPERATIONS.
BEGIN REBUILDING OUR OPERATIONS.
WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD TO      
WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD TO      
ESTABLISH OUR SAFETY AND HEALTH 
ESTABLISH OUR SAFETY AND HEALTH 
PROTOCOLS.                      
PROTOCOLS.                      
WE'RE WORKING HARD TO SUSTAIN   
WE'RE WORKING HARD TO SUSTAIN   
OUR COMMUNITY-BASED AND GENERAL 
OUR COMMUNITY-BASED AND GENERAL 
PROGRAMS.                       
PROGRAMS.                       
AND, OF COURSE, TO PRESERVE OUR 
AND, OF COURSE, TO PRESERVE OUR 
STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY.      
STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY.      
I PERSONALLY AM WORKING WITH THE
I PERSONALLY AM WORKING WITH THE
BROADWAY LEAGUE ON REOPENING    
BROADWAY LEAGUE ON REOPENING    
BROADWAY FOR THE ROAD AND HOW   
BROADWAY FOR THE ROAD AND HOW   
THAT CAN HAPPEN.                
THAT CAN HAPPEN.                
AND LORRIN SHEPARD, WHO IS ALSO,
AND LORRIN SHEPARD, WHO IS ALSO,
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM,  
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM,  
HE'S ONLINE TODAY.              
HE'S ONLINE TODAY.              
HE IS CHAIRING THE NATIONAL TASK
HE IS CHAIRING THE NATIONAL TASK
FORCE WITH THE KENNEDY CENTER   
FORCE WITH THE KENNEDY CENTER   
AND OTHERS OF HOW DO WE REOPEN  
AND OTHERS OF HOW DO WE REOPEN  
OUR MAJOR PERFORMING ART CENTERS
OUR MAJOR PERFORMING ART CENTERS
AROUND THE COUNTRY WITH HEALTH  
AROUND THE COUNTRY WITH HEALTH  
PROTOCOLS.                      
PROTOCOLS.                      
OUR REOPENING PLAN INCLUDES     
OUR REOPENING PLAN INCLUDES     
THREE PHASES.                   
THREE PHASES.                   
PHASE ONE IS REOPENING THE      
PHASE ONE IS REOPENING THE      
CONSERVATORY.                   
CONSERVATORY.                   
WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE CLASSES    
WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE CLASSES    
THIS SUMMER ON-SITE.            
THIS SUMMER ON-SITE.            
WE DID NOT HAVE ONE COVID       
WE DID NOT HAVE ONE COVID       
INCIDENT, I'M GLAD TO REPORT.   
INCIDENT, I'M GLAD TO REPORT.   
AND THEY ARE OPENING ON-SITE    
AND THEY ARE OPENING ON-SITE    
THIS FALL.                      
THIS FALL.                      
WE HOPE TO OPEN OUR RIVER STAGE 
WE HOPE TO OPEN OUR RIVER STAGE 
SPACE BECAUSE IT IS OUTSIDE OUR 
SPACE BECAUSE IT IS OUTSIDE OUR 
FOOD AND BEVERAGE OPERATION     
FOOD AND BEVERAGE OPERATION     
WHICH IS ON THE RIVERWALK.      
WHICH IS ON THE RIVERWALK.      
WE THINK WE CAN DO THAT SAFELY. 
WE THINK WE CAN DO THAT SAFELY. 
PHASE TWO, WHICH WILL HAPPEN    
PHASE TWO, WHICH WILL HAPPEN    
SOMETIME IN THE FALL, WE'RE     
SOMETIME IN THE FALL, WE'RE     
TRYING TO PRODUCE SMALLER       
TRYING TO PRODUCE SMALLER       
PRODUCTIONS WITH OUR LOCAL      
PRODUCTIONS WITH OUR LOCAL      
ARTISTS.                        
ARTISTS.                        
WE HAVE WONDERFUL LOCAL ARTISTS,
WE HAVE WONDERFUL LOCAL ARTISTS,
AND WE FEEL WE COULD DO SOME    
AND WE FEEL WE COULD DO SOME    
LOCAL SMALL SHOWS THAT WE COULD 
LOCAL SMALL SHOWS THAT WE COULD 
DO WITH SOME SOCIAL DISTANCING. 
DO WITH SOME SOCIAL DISTANCING. 
WE DID JUST HEAR, HOWEVER, THAT 
WE DID JUST HEAR, HOWEVER, THAT 
THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA HAS       
THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA HAS       
DECIDED THAT THEY CANNOT PERFORM
DECIDED THAT THEY CANNOT PERFORM
UNTIL AT LEAST NEXT YEAR.       
UNTIL AT LEAST NEXT YEAR.       
AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT.         
AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT.         
WE UNDERSTAND WHY THEY CAN'T DO 
WE UNDERSTAND WHY THEY CAN'T DO 
THAT.                           
THAT.                           
AS I SAID, WE'RE PREPARING FOR  
AS I SAID, WE'RE PREPARING FOR  
MAJOR ACTIVITIES IN CONJUNCTION 
MAJOR ACTIVITIES IN CONJUNCTION 
WITH THE SUPER BOWL.            
WITH THE SUPER BOWL.            
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE CAN 
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE CAN 
DO RIGHT NOW IS MAKE SURE THAT  
DO RIGHT NOW IS MAKE SURE THAT  
ENDEAR THE PERFORMING ARTS      
ENDEAR THE PERFORMING ARTS      
CENTER TO BE AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE
CENTER TO BE AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE
WHEN WE DO REOPEN.              
WHEN WE DO REOPEN.              
PEOPLE WILL COME TO US IF THEY  
PEOPLE WILL COME TO US IF THEY  
KNOW WE'RE SAFE.                
KNOW WE'RE SAFE.                
CONSISTENT WITH NATIONAL        
CONSISTENT WITH NATIONAL        
RECOMMENDATIONS, OUR MITIGATION 
RECOMMENDATIONS, OUR MITIGATION 
PLAN OUTLINES MANY GUIDING      
PLAN OUTLINES MANY GUIDING      
PRINCIPLES.                     
PRINCIPLES.                     
I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUG ALL  
I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUG ALL  
OF THEM BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE  
OF THEM BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE  
DEALING WITH AND TRYING TO GET  
DEALING WITH AND TRYING TO GET  
FUNDING FOR.                    
FUNDING FOR.                    
CONTACTLESS ENTRY AND           
CONTACTLESS ENTRY AND           
TRANSACTION SYSTEMS, ENHANCED   
TRANSACTION SYSTEMS, ENHANCED   
CLEANING IN LOBBIES, THEATERS   
CLEANING IN LOBBIES, THEATERS   
AND CONSERVATORY SPACES,        
AND CONSERVATORY SPACES,        
INCLUDING FOOD AND BEVERAGE.    
INCLUDING FOOD AND BEVERAGE.    
PROPER SIGNAGE AND              
PROPER SIGNAGE AND              
COMMUNICATIONS.                 
COMMUNICATIONS.                 
SANTIZATION AND BIG ONE, HVAC   
SANTIZATION AND BIG ONE, HVAC   
FILTRATION SYSTEM ENHANCEMENTS. 
FILTRATION SYSTEM ENHANCEMENTS. 
IN CLOSING, WE WANT TO ASSURE   
IN CLOSING, WE WANT TO ASSURE   
YOU THAT WE ARE DOING OUR VERY, 
YOU THAT WE ARE DOING OUR VERY, 
VERY BEST TO KEEP OUR PERFORMING
VERY BEST TO KEEP OUR PERFORMING
ARTS CENTER AS RELEVANT AS      
ARTS CENTER AS RELEVANT AS      
POSSIBLE, TO DO AS MUCH AS WE   
POSSIBLE, TO DO AS MUCH AS WE   
CAN DURING THIS TIME IN A SAFE  
CAN DURING THIS TIME IN A SAFE  
WAY.                            
WAY.                            
WE'RE NOT COMING TO YOU FOR     
WE'RE NOT COMING TO YOU FOR     
FUNDING RIGHT NOW.              
FUNDING RIGHT NOW.              
WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE TO SEE  
WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE TO SEE  
WHERE THIS IS TAKING US.        
WHERE THIS IS TAKING US.        
AT SOME POINT, WE MIGHT HAVE TO 
AT SOME POINT, WE MIGHT HAVE TO 
TURN TO YOU FOR HELP, BUT WE'RE 
TURN TO YOU FOR HELP, BUT WE'RE 
NOT SURE YET.                   
NOT SURE YET.                   
IT IS A CITY ASSET.             
IT IS A CITY ASSET.             
WE'RE HAPPY TO DO IT AS A       
WE'RE HAPPY TO DO IT AS A       
PRIVATE NOT FOR PROFIT TO DO THE
PRIVATE NOT FOR PROFIT TO DO THE
BEST WE CAN, BUT WE'RE WATCHING 
BEST WE CAN, BUT WE'RE WATCHING 
EVERYTHING VERY CLOSELY.        
EVERYTHING VERY CLOSELY.        
I PROMISE YOU, WE WILL COME TO  
I PROMISE YOU, WE WILL COME TO  
YOU WITH FURTHER UPDATES AS WE  
YOU WITH FURTHER UPDATES AS WE  
MOVE THROUGH THIS JOURNEY.      
MOVE THROUGH THIS JOURNEY.      
I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL   
I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL   
YOU'RE DOING AND I'M HAPPY TO   
YOU'RE DOING AND I'M HAPPY TO   
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU   
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU   
MIGHT HAVE.                     
MIGHT HAVE.                     
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
BRIEFLY, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS
BRIEFLY, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS
FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?           
FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?           
COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I KNOW   
COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I KNOW   
YOU ARE ON THE STRAZ BOARD.     
YOU ARE ON THE STRAZ BOARD.     
DO YOU WANT TO START IT OFF?    
DO YOU WANT TO START IT OFF?    
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?      
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?      
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.        
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: SURE.        
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.        
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.        
THANK YOU, MS. LISI, AND JULIE  
THANK YOU, MS. LISI, AND JULIE  
AND LORRIN FOR JOINING US TODAY.
AND LORRIN FOR JOINING US TODAY.
JUDY, IT'S DEFINITELY SOME TOUGH
JUDY, IT'S DEFINITELY SOME TOUGH
TIMES FOR YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND
TIMES FOR YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND
ALL OF YOUR PERFORMERS AND YOUR 
ALL OF YOUR PERFORMERS AND YOUR 
STUDENTS.                       
STUDENTS.                       
WE SYMPATHIZE WITH YOU GUYS AND 
WE SYMPATHIZE WITH YOU GUYS AND 
WE HOPE WE CAN BE IN A POSITION 
WE HOPE WE CAN BE IN A POSITION 
TO HELP WHEN YOU DO COME BACK,  
TO HELP WHEN YOU DO COME BACK,  
OR IF YOU DO COME BACK AND ASK. 
OR IF YOU DO COME BACK AND ASK. 
ONE OF THE MOTIONS THAT WE HAVE 
ONE OF THE MOTIONS THAT WE HAVE 
PENDING OVER AT THE CRA IS TO   
PENDING OVER AT THE CRA IS TO   
EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE
EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE
DOWNTOWN CRA MIGHT BE OF        
DOWNTOWN CRA MIGHT BE OF        
ASSISTANCE IN THE FUTURE WITH   
ASSISTANCE IN THE FUTURE WITH   
SOME EMERGENCY FUNDS, IF YOU    
SOME EMERGENCY FUNDS, IF YOU    
NEED IT.                        
NEED IT.                        
WE'LL STAY IN TOUCH THROUGH     
WE'LL STAY IN TOUCH THROUGH     
THAT, AND I'LL BE YOUR LIAISON  
THAT, AND I'LL BE YOUR LIAISON  
BACK TO THE BOARD.              
BACK TO THE BOARD.              
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.        
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.        
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS 
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS 
FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?           
FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?           
>>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, THIS 
>>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, THIS 
IS CARLSON.                     
IS CARLSON.                     
COULD I MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT? 
COULD I MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT? 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD,   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD,   
SIR.                            
SIR.                            
>>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO  
>>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO  
THANK MS. LISI AND YOUR BOARD.  
THANK MS. LISI AND YOUR BOARD.  
YOU'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB     
YOU'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB     
MANAGING THIS FACILITY AND THE  
MANAGING THIS FACILITY AND THE  
ECONOMIC IMPACT OF IT IS        
ECONOMIC IMPACT OF IT IS        
UNDERESTIMATED IN THAT THE BROAD
UNDERESTIMATED IN THAT THE BROAD
RANGE OF INDUSTRIES IT SUPPORTS 
RANGE OF INDUSTRIES IT SUPPORTS 
AND HELPS AND THE WAY IT        
AND HELPS AND THE WAY IT        
ATTRACTS THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST 
ATTRACTS THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST 
PEOPLE AND THE COMPANIES THAT WE
PEOPLE AND THE COMPANIES THAT WE
WANT TO GROW AND THRIVE HERE.   
WANT TO GROW AND THRIVE HERE.   
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HELPING YOU
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HELPING YOU
PERSONALLY AND THROUGH THE CITY 
PERSONALLY AND THROUGH THE CITY 
TO HELP BRING THE STAGE BACK    
TO HELP BRING THE STAGE BACK    
OPEN AND TO MAKE YOU ALL EVEN   
OPEN AND TO MAKE YOU ALL EVEN   
BETTER SUCCESS IN THE FUTURE.   
BETTER SUCCESS IN THE FUTURE.   
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
>>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?  
>>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR,   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR,   
COUNCILMAN GUDES.               
COUNCILMAN GUDES.               
>>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR,
>>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR,
AND FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP THIS    
AND FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP THIS    
MORNING.                        
MORNING.                        
I THINK MR. DINGFELDER TOOK SOME
I THINK MR. DINGFELDER TOOK SOME
OF MY THUNDER ON THE CRA        
OF MY THUNDER ON THE CRA        
CONCEPT.                        
CONCEPT.                        
I THINK IT MIGHT BE AN -- IF IT 
I THINK IT MIGHT BE AN -- IF IT 
COMES TO THAT POINT.            
COMES TO THAT POINT.            
IT IS IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA.      
IT IS IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA.      
AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE CAN 
AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE CAN 
FOLLOW GUIDELINES IF THEY NEED  
FOLLOW GUIDELINES IF THEY NEED  
HELP BECAUSE IT IS A WORLDWIDE  
HELP BECAUSE IT IS A WORLDWIDE  
ATTRACTION.                     
ATTRACTION.                     
SOME OF THE BEST SHOWS HERE IN  
SOME OF THE BEST SHOWS HERE IN  
TOWN.                           
TOWN.                           
THANK YOU, SIR.                 
THANK YOU, SIR.                 
AND I YIELD BACK.               
AND I YIELD BACK.               
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
ALL RIGHT.                      
ALL RIGHT.                      
I HEAR NO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I HEAR NO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
WE APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. 
WE APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. 
WE WILL NOW CONTINUE WITH THE   
WE WILL NOW CONTINUE WITH THE   
REMAINDER OF THE AGENDA.        
REMAINDER OF THE AGENDA.        
>>JUDITH LISI: THANK YOU.       
>>JUDITH LISI: THANK YOU.       
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
>>JUDITH LISI: THANK YOU.       
>>JUDITH LISI: THANK YOU.       
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE MOVE ON  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE MOVE ON  
TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHOMEVER WOULD
TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHOMEVER WOULD
LIKE TO BEGIN ON THIS ITEM.     
LIKE TO BEGIN ON THIS ITEM.     
I BELIEVE I HEARD BERKOFF FROM  
I BELIEVE I HEARD BERKOFF FROM  
TPD.                            
TPD.                            
>> I BELIEVE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
>> I BELIEVE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE WAS GOING TO START OFF   
OFFICE WAS GOING TO START OFF   
WITH THE AGENDA ITEM.           
WITH THE AGENDA ITEM.           
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.        
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.        
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THE      
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THE      
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WOULD LIKE TO 
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WOULD LIKE TO 
BEGIN ON THIS AND IF YOU WANT TO
BEGIN ON THIS AND IF YOU WANT TO
FOLLOW UP AFTER THAT.           
FOLLOW UP AFTER THAT.           
WHOEVER WISHES TO BEGIN.        
WHOEVER WISHES TO BEGIN.        
>>URSULA RICHARDSON: THIS IS    
>>URSULA RICHARDSON: THIS IS    
URSULA RICHARDSON WITH THE CITY 
URSULA RICHARDSON WITH THE CITY 
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.              
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.              
I DRAFTED THE REPORT THAT WAS   
I DRAFTED THE REPORT THAT WAS   
REQUESTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL   
REQUESTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL   
BACK ON JUNE 4th.               
BACK ON JUNE 4th.               
THAT REPORT OR THE REQUEST FOR A
THAT REPORT OR THE REQUEST FOR A
REPORT WAS TO COMPARE THE USE OF
REPORT WAS TO COMPARE THE USE OF
FORCE POLICIES BY THE TAMPA     
FORCE POLICIES BY THE TAMPA     
POLICE DEPARTMENT TO THE EIGHT  
POLICE DEPARTMENT TO THE EIGHT  
CAN'T WAIT INITIATIVE.          
CAN'T WAIT INITIATIVE.          
THAT REPORT WAS SUBMITTED, WHICH
THAT REPORT WAS SUBMITTED, WHICH
SETS FORTH THE COMPARISON, AND I
SETS FORTH THE COMPARISON, AND I
FIND THAT OUR POLICIES ARE      
FIND THAT OUR POLICIES ARE      
CONSISTENT WITH THE EIGHT CAN'T 
CONSISTENT WITH THE EIGHT CAN'T 
WAIT INITIATIVES, AND CAN I     
WAIT INITIATIVES, AND CAN I     
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY    
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY    
HAVE ABOUT THAT COMPARISON.     
HAVE ABOUT THAT COMPARISON.     
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.  
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM    
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM    
COUNCIL MEMBERS?                
COUNCIL MEMBERS?                
COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, I BELIEVE 
COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, I BELIEVE 
THIS WAS YOUR MOTION IF YOU'D   
THIS WAS YOUR MOTION IF YOU'D   
LIKE TO START IT OFF.           
LIKE TO START IT OFF.           
>>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, ACTUALLY,  
>>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, ACTUALLY,  
IT WAS DINGFELDER AND MR.       
IT WAS DINGFELDER AND MR.       
CARLSON'S MOTION.               
CARLSON'S MOTION.               
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DO HAVE A  
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DO HAVE A  
QUESTION, MAINLY TO CHIEF       
QUESTION, MAINLY TO CHIEF       
BERKOFF.                        
BERKOFF.                        
THANK YOU, URSULA FOR DOING A   
THANK YOU, URSULA FOR DOING A   
GREAT JOB AS USUAL.             
GREAT JOB AS USUAL.             
ARE YOU ON THE LINE?            
ARE YOU ON THE LINE?            
>> YES, I AM.                   
>> YES, I AM.                   
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO WHEN THIS 
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO WHEN THIS 
INITIAL MEMO IN RESPONSE TO THE 
INITIAL MEMO IN RESPONSE TO THE 
EIGHT CAN'T WAIT CAME OUT, MY   
EIGHT CAN'T WAIT CAME OUT, MY   
RESPONSE WAS POSITIVE.          
RESPONSE WAS POSITIVE.          
I SAID, OH, THIS IS GREAT THAT  
I SAID, OH, THIS IS GREAT THAT  
THE CITY ALREADY HAS THESE      
THE CITY ALREADY HAS THESE      
POLICIES IN FORCE, ALBEIT, THE  
POLICIES IN FORCE, ALBEIT, THE  
FACT THAT THEY ARE KIND OF      
FACT THAT THEY ARE KIND OF      
SCATTERED ALL OVER THE PLACE.   
SCATTERED ALL OVER THE PLACE.   
SOME OF THEM ARE STANDARD       
SOME OF THEM ARE STANDARD       
SOPs, STANDARD OPERATING        
SOPs, STANDARD OPERATING        
PROCEDURES.                     
PROCEDURES.                     
AND OTHERS ARE FOUND IN THE     
AND OTHERS ARE FOUND IN THE     
TRAINING MANUAL.                
TRAINING MANUAL.                
AS A MATTER OF FACT, AT THE TIME
AS A MATTER OF FACT, AT THE TIME
BACK IN JUNE, I THINK, I SAID   
BACK IN JUNE, I THINK, I SAID   
WHY DON'T WE CONSOLIDATE THESE  
WHY DON'T WE CONSOLIDATE THESE  
INTO ONE LOCATION AND WHEN YOU  
INTO ONE LOCATION AND WHEN YOU  
GO ON THE CITY WEBSITE, ALL YOU 
GO ON THE CITY WEBSITE, ALL YOU 
HAVE TO DO IS SAY USE OF FORCE, 
HAVE TO DO IS SAY USE OF FORCE, 
AND THEY POP RIGHT UP.          
AND THEY POP RIGHT UP.          
BETTER YET, I THINK IT SHOULD BE
BETTER YET, I THINK IT SHOULD BE
A CATEGORY IN THE TPD WEBSITE   
A CATEGORY IN THE TPD WEBSITE   
RIGHT NEXT TO MAYBE CITIZENS    
RIGHT NEXT TO MAYBE CITIZENS    
REVIEW BOARD OR WHATEVER, THE   
REVIEW BOARD OR WHATEVER, THE   
USE OF FORCE.                   
USE OF FORCE.                   
I JUST WENT ON THE CITY'S       
I JUST WENT ON THE CITY'S       
WEBSITE TO SEE IF THERE'S BEEN  
WEBSITE TO SEE IF THERE'S BEEN  
ANY IMPROVEMENTS.               
ANY IMPROVEMENTS.               
THERE'S NOTHING THERE ON THE    
THERE'S NOTHING THERE ON THE    
WEBSITE THAT SAYS USE OF FORCE  
WEBSITE THAT SAYS USE OF FORCE  
ON THE TPD COVER PAGE.          
ON THE TPD COVER PAGE.          
WHEN I TYPED IN THE WORD SEARCH,
WHEN I TYPED IN THE WORD SEARCH,
"USE OF FORCE," IT TOOK ME TO AN
"USE OF FORCE," IT TOOK ME TO AN
EIGHT CAN'T WAIT SORT OF SUMMARY
EIGHT CAN'T WAIT SORT OF SUMMARY
WITH A LOT OF LINKS, WHICH IS   
WITH A LOT OF LINKS, WHICH IS   
KIND OF LIKE THE MEMO WE HAD.   
KIND OF LIKE THE MEMO WE HAD.   
THE SUGGESTION I WOULD MAKE     
THE SUGGESTION I WOULD MAKE     
RESPECTFULLY, CHIEF, IS THAT    
RESPECTFULLY, CHIEF, IS THAT    
WHOEVER DOES YOUR WEBSITE JUST  
WHOEVER DOES YOUR WEBSITE JUST  
INCLUDES A SPECIFIC LINE ITEM   
INCLUDES A SPECIFIC LINE ITEM   
THAT SAYS "USE OF FORCE."       
THAT SAYS "USE OF FORCE."       
THE REASON I THINK IT'S         
THE REASON I THINK IT'S         
IMPORTANT IS TWOFOLD.           
IMPORTANT IS TWOFOLD.           
NUMBER ONE, I THINK WHEN THE    
NUMBER ONE, I THINK WHEN THE    
COMMUNITY HAS A QUESTION ABOUT  
COMMUNITY HAS A QUESTION ABOUT  
USE OF FORCE, MAYBE THEY FEEL   
USE OF FORCE, MAYBE THEY FEEL   
LIKE SOMEBODY HAS BEEN ABUSED OR
LIKE SOMEBODY HAS BEEN ABUSED OR
MAYBE THEY ARE JUST CURIOUS, IT 
MAYBE THEY ARE JUST CURIOUS, IT 
WOULD BE VERY EASY FOR THEM TO  
WOULD BE VERY EASY FOR THEM TO  
FIND WITHOUT ANY SEARCH ENGINES.
FIND WITHOUT ANY SEARCH ENGINES.
NUMBER TWO, IF YOUR OFFICERS    
NUMBER TWO, IF YOUR OFFICERS    
HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT USE OF    
HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT USE OF    
FORCE, I THINK -- AND IT MIGHT  
FORCE, I THINK -- AND IT MIGHT  
BE A VERY URGENT QUESTION ABOUT 
BE A VERY URGENT QUESTION ABOUT 
USE OF FORCE, MAYBE THEY, TOO,  
USE OF FORCE, MAYBE THEY, TOO,  
COULD GO ON THE WEBSITE AND SEE 
COULD GO ON THE WEBSITE AND SEE 
IT AS SOMETHING THAT POPS UP    
IT AS SOMETHING THAT POPS UP    
RIGHT AWAY AS OPPOSED TO TRYING 
RIGHT AWAY AS OPPOSED TO TRYING 
TO FIND EIGHT DIFFERENT         
TO FIND EIGHT DIFFERENT         
POLICIES.                       
POLICIES.                       
ANYWAY, THAT'S MY FRIENDLY      
ANYWAY, THAT'S MY FRIENDLY      
SUGGESTION.                     
SUGGESTION.                     
I APPRECIATE ALL YOU GUYS DO.   
I APPRECIATE ALL YOU GUYS DO.   
THANKS.                         
THANKS.                         
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
WHO ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK?       
WHO ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK?       
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THERE A   
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THERE A   
RESPONSE FROM CHIEF BERCAW.     
RESPONSE FROM CHIEF BERCAW.     
>> YES, THERE IS.               
>> YES, THERE IS.               
THAT IS A GREAT SUGGESTION.     
THAT IS A GREAT SUGGESTION.     
WE'RE WORKING ON THE EXTERNAL   
WE'RE WORKING ON THE EXTERNAL   
FACE AND IMPROVING THAT.        
FACE AND IMPROVING THAT.        
INITIALLY WE USE POWER DMS WHICH
INITIALLY WE USE POWER DMS WHICH
IS A VERY USER FRIENDLY SEARCH  
IS A VERY USER FRIENDLY SEARCH  
DOCUMENT FOR ALL OUR POLICIES   
DOCUMENT FOR ALL OUR POLICIES   
FOR THE OFFICERS, WHICH HAS EASY
FOR THE OFFICERS, WHICH HAS EASY
ACCESS THROUGH THE LAPTOP OR    
ACCESS THROUGH THE LAPTOP OR    
THROUGH THEIR MOBILE PHONE.     
THROUGH THEIR MOBILE PHONE.     
AND WE HAVE AN EXTERNAL LINK    
AND WE HAVE AN EXTERNAL LINK    
THAT WE JUST PAID FOR AN UPGRADE
THAT WE JUST PAID FOR AN UPGRADE
ON AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF  
ON AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF  
DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID
DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID
ON OUR EXTERNAL PUBLIC-FACING   
ON OUR EXTERNAL PUBLIC-FACING   
SITE.                           
SITE.                           
THAT IS ALREADY IN THE WORKS,   
THAT IS ALREADY IN THE WORKS,   
AND THE OFFICERS INTERNALLY NOW 
AND THE OFFICERS INTERNALLY NOW 
ALREADY HAVE A REALLY GOOD      
ALREADY HAVE A REALLY GOOD      
SYSTEM TO USE.                  
SYSTEM TO USE.                  
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DEMONSTRATE 
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DEMONSTRATE 
IT FOR YOU ANYTIME.             
IT FOR YOU ANYTIME.             
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.        
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.        
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF.     
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF.     
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.        
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.        
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL    
ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL    
WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?     
WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?     
ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL?   
ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL?   
I HEAR NONE.                    
I HEAR NONE.                    
I HEAR NO ONE.                  
I HEAR NO ONE.                  
ALL RIGHT.                      
ALL RIGHT.                      
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS  
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS  
TOPIC?                          
TOPIC?                          
ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE  
ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE  
ASKED OR DISCUSSED, SAID,       
ASKED OR DISCUSSED, SAID,       
PRESENTED, ANYTHING?            
PRESENTED, ANYTHING?            
ALL RIGHT.                      
ALL RIGHT.                      
I HEAR SILENCE.                 
I HEAR SILENCE.                 
WELL, THERE IS SILENCE.         
WELL, THERE IS SILENCE.         
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
ANY OTHER PRESENTER?            
ANY OTHER PRESENTER?            
ANYBODY ELSE SPEAKING ON THIS?  
ANYBODY ELSE SPEAKING ON THIS?  
COUNCILMAN GUDES.               
COUNCILMAN GUDES.               
>>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU PRESS THAT 
>>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU PRESS THAT 
IN YOUR TONE, I THINK SINCE WE  
IN YOUR TONE, I THINK SINCE WE  
HAVE THE ASSISTANT CHIEF ON THE 
HAVE THE ASSISTANT CHIEF ON THE 
LINE AND A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT
LINE AND A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT
THIS MORNING, MAYBE HE CAN      
THIS MORNING, MAYBE HE CAN      
ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT 
ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT 
THEY ARE SAYING AND MAYBE CLEAR 
THEY ARE SAYING AND MAYBE CLEAR 
UP SOME OF THE MISCONCEPTIONS OR
UP SOME OF THE MISCONCEPTIONS OR
EVEN WHAT THE -- IT'S BETTER TO 
EVEN WHAT THE -- IT'S BETTER TO 
GET A CLEAR ANSWER THAN NO      
GET A CLEAR ANSWER THAN NO      
ANSWER.                         
ANSWER.                         
I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE      
I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE      
LOOKING FOR BECAUSE YOU'RE      
LOOKING FOR BECAUSE YOU'RE      
ASKING COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS.   
ASKING COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS.   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.  
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE?         
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE?         
>>ORLANDO GUDES: IF CHIEF BERCAW
>>ORLANDO GUDES: IF CHIEF BERCAW
CAN RESPOND TO ANYTHING, WITH   
CAN RESPOND TO ANYTHING, WITH   
REFERENCE TO THE PUBLIC         
REFERENCE TO THE PUBLIC         
COMMENTS, WHAT THE PUBLIC IS    
COMMENTS, WHAT THE PUBLIC IS    
THINKING.                       
THINKING.                       
IF NOT, THAT'S --               
IF NOT, THAT'S --               
>> SURE.                        
>> SURE.                        
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO.            
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO.            
FOR THE RECORD, WE DO EMBRACE   
FOR THE RECORD, WE DO EMBRACE   
PRESIDENT OBAMA'S TASK FORCE ON 
PRESIDENT OBAMA'S TASK FORCE ON 
21st CENTURY POLICING, AND WE   
21st CENTURY POLICING, AND WE   
DO HAVE EXTENSIVE TRAINING IN   
DO HAVE EXTENSIVE TRAINING IN   
OUR USE OF FORCE AND THE WAY    
OUR USE OF FORCE AND THE WAY    
THAT WE TREAT PEOPLE.           
THAT WE TREAT PEOPLE.           
OUR GOLDEN RULE IS TO TREAT     
OUR GOLDEN RULE IS TO TREAT     
EVERYBODY WITH DIGNITY AND      
EVERYBODY WITH DIGNITY AND      
RESPECT.                        
RESPECT.                        
AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAINING THAT 
AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAINING THAT 
WE SUPPLY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE    
WE SUPPLY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE    
JUST LIKE COUNCILMAN CITRO SAYS 
JUST LIKE COUNCILMAN CITRO SAYS 
IS FOR CITIZENS TO COME TO OUR  
IS FOR CITIZENS TO COME TO OUR  
CITIZENS ACADEMY AND SEE THESE  
CITIZENS ACADEMY AND SEE THESE  
SCENARIO-BASED TRAINING THAT OUR
SCENARIO-BASED TRAINING THAT OUR
OFFICERS GO THROUGH AND THE     
OFFICERS GO THROUGH AND THE     
DECISION-MAKING PROCESS THEY    
DECISION-MAKING PROCESS THEY    
LEARN.                          
LEARN.                          
THE SCENARIO TRAINING WE DO ON  
THE SCENARIO TRAINING WE DO ON  
DE-ESCALATION, STARTED BEFORE   
DE-ESCALATION, STARTED BEFORE   
DE-ESCALATION WAS A HOT TOPIC.  
DE-ESCALATION WAS A HOT TOPIC.  
WE'RE VERY INNOVATIVE.          
WE'RE VERY INNOVATIVE.          
THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE ARE VERY
THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE ARE VERY
PARTICULAR ON HOW WE FOLLOW UP  
PARTICULAR ON HOW WE FOLLOW UP  
ON OUR USE OF FORCE.            
ON OUR USE OF FORCE.            
WE HAVE A SUPERVISOR REVIEW, A  
WE HAVE A SUPERVISOR REVIEW, A  
MANAGEMENT REVIEW.              
MANAGEMENT REVIEW.              
UNDER MAYOR CASTOR, WHEN SHE WAS
UNDER MAYOR CASTOR, WHEN SHE WAS
THE POLICE CHIEF, SHE CREATED A 
THE POLICE CHIEF, SHE CREATED A 
THIRD INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF OUR  
THIRD INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF OUR  
QUALITY ASSURANCE UNIT.         
QUALITY ASSURANCE UNIT.         
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE
ALSO HAVE AN AUTOMATED EARLY    
ALSO HAVE AN AUTOMATED EARLY    
INTERVENTION PROGRAM ON USE OF  
INTERVENTION PROGRAM ON USE OF  
FORCE WHERE THIS AGENCY WAS ONE 
FORCE WHERE THIS AGENCY WAS ONE 
OF THE PIONEERS SEVERAL DECADES 
OF THE PIONEERS SEVERAL DECADES 
AGO.                            
AGO.                            
WE CURRENTLY NOW ARE GETTING A  
WE CURRENTLY NOW ARE GETTING A  
TON OF FEEDBACK FROM THE        
TON OF FEEDBACK FROM THE        
COMMUNITY IN ADAPTING AS THE    
COMMUNITY IN ADAPTING AS THE    
COMMUNITY EVOLVES, WE'RE        
COMMUNITY EVOLVES, WE'RE        
EVOLVING.                       
EVOLVING.                       
I KNOW THAT THE MAYOR'S         
I KNOW THAT THE MAYOR'S         
COMMUNITY TASK FORCE IS GETTING 
COMMUNITY TASK FORCE IS GETTING 
READY TO COME OUT WITH SOME     
READY TO COME OUT WITH SOME     
RECOMMENDATIONS, AND WE'RE GOING
RECOMMENDATIONS, AND WE'RE GOING
TO BE ALL EARS LISTENING AND    
TO BE ALL EARS LISTENING AND    
READY TO RISE TO THAT OCCASION. 
READY TO RISE TO THAT OCCASION. 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.  
ANY RESPONSE TO THAT?           
ANY RESPONSE TO THAT?           
ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE    
ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE    
MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TOPIC?      
MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TOPIC?      
>>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD SAY    
>>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD SAY    
THANK YOU, CHIEF BERCAW, FOR    
THANK YOU, CHIEF BERCAW, FOR    
SHARING THOSE WITH THE PUBLIC.  
SHARING THOSE WITH THE PUBLIC.  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
ALL RIGHT.                      
ALL RIGHT.                      
WE WILL GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. 
WE WILL GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. 
OF COURSE, WE SAW EARLIER IN THE
OF COURSE, WE SAW EARLIER IN THE
AGENDA THAT WE CONTINUED ONE    
AGENDA THAT WE CONTINUED ONE    
ITEM TO THE SEPTEMBER 24th      
ITEM TO THE SEPTEMBER 24th      
WORKSHOP.                       
WORKSHOP.                       
SO WE GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM    
SO WE GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM    
REGARDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
REGARDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
WHATNOT.                        
WHATNOT.                        
WE HAVE A PowerPoint            
WE HAVE A PowerPoint            
PRESENTATION ON THAT.           
PRESENTATION ON THAT.           
>>CAROLE POST: GOOD MORNING.    
>>CAROLE POST: GOOD MORNING.    
CAROLE POST HERE.               
CAROLE POST HERE.               
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD        
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD        
MORNING.                        
MORNING.                        
>>CAROLE POST: GOOD MORNING.    
>>CAROLE POST: GOOD MORNING.    
I'M THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR       
I'M THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR       
DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC        
DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC        
OPPORTUNITY.                    
OPPORTUNITY.                    
I'M JOINED THIS MORNING BY      
I'M JOINED THIS MORNING BY      
VANESSA McCLEARY, THE MANAGER   
VANESSA McCLEARY, THE MANAGER   
OF OUR HOUSING AND COMMUNITY    
OF OUR HOUSING AND COMMUNITY    
DEVELOPMENT GROUP.              
DEVELOPMENT GROUP.              
AND THIS MORNING, WE HAVE       
AND THIS MORNING, WE HAVE       
ACTUALLY TWO PRESENTATIONS THAT 
ACTUALLY TWO PRESENTATIONS THAT 
ARE INTENDED TO BE RESPONSIVE TO
ARE INTENDED TO BE RESPONSIVE TO
SEVERAL RECENT COUNCIL          
SEVERAL RECENT COUNCIL          
RESOLUTIONS.                    
RESOLUTIONS.                    
I APPRECIATE THAT COUNCIL HAS   
I APPRECIATE THAT COUNCIL HAS   
HELPED ADJUST AND MOVE SOME OF  
HELPED ADJUST AND MOVE SOME OF  
THESE RESOLUTIONS AROUND IN     
THESE RESOLUTIONS AROUND IN     
TERMS OF THEIR RESPONSE DATES SO
TERMS OF THEIR RESPONSE DATES SO
THAT THEY ALL COINCIDE HERE AND 
THAT THEY ALL COINCIDE HERE AND 
WE CAN PRESENT A COMPREHENSIVE  
WE CAN PRESENT A COMPREHENSIVE  
RESPONSE.                       
RESPONSE.                       
AS SUCH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO  
AS SUCH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO  
DO IS PRESENT ONE PRESENTATION  
DO IS PRESENT ONE PRESENTATION  
THAT WOULD BE AN OVERALL        
THAT WOULD BE AN OVERALL        
AFFORDABLE HOUSING STRATEGY     
AFFORDABLE HOUSING STRATEGY     
UPDATE.                         
UPDATE.                         
THAT WILL BE RESPONSIVE TO FOUR 
THAT WILL BE RESPONSIVE TO FOUR 
SEPARATE BUT RELATED            
SEPARATE BUT RELATED            
RESOLUTIONS.                    
RESOLUTIONS.                    
AND IT WILL ALSO GIVE THE       
AND IT WILL ALSO GIVE THE       
COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AN       
COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AN       
OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE PROGRESS 
OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE PROGRESS 
WE'VE MADE ON THE MAYOR'S       
WE'VE MADE ON THE MAYOR'S       
AFFORDABLE HOUSING STRATEGIC    
AFFORDABLE HOUSING STRATEGIC    
OBJECTIVES.                     
OBJECTIVES.                     
THE SECOND PRESENTATION IS A    
THE SECOND PRESENTATION IS A    
COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE ON THE     
COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE ON THE     
CITY'S URBAN INFILL PROJECT THAT
CITY'S URBAN INFILL PROJECT THAT
COMMENCED IN 2018.              
COMMENCED IN 2018.              
AND THAT PRESENTATION WILL BE   
AND THAT PRESENTATION WILL BE   
RESPONSIVE TO A RECENT REQUEST  
RESPONSIVE TO A RECENT REQUEST  
BY COUNCIL FOR AN UPDATE ON THE 
BY COUNCIL FOR AN UPDATE ON THE 
CONTRACT, BUT WE THOUGHT IT     
CONTRACT, BUT WE THOUGHT IT     
WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNE TIME AS   
WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNE TIME AS   
THAT PROGRAM IS WINDING DOWN TO 
THAT PROGRAM IS WINDING DOWN TO 
GIVE A STATE OF THE REPORT, IF  
GIVE A STATE OF THE REPORT, IF  
YOU WILL, ACROSS THE ENTIRE     
YOU WILL, ACROSS THE ENTIRE     
PROGRAM.                        
PROGRAM.                        
SO WE HAVE A LOT TO COVER, BUT I
SO WE HAVE A LOT TO COVER, BUT I
APPRECIATE IF YOU'LL INDULGE US 
APPRECIATE IF YOU'LL INDULGE US 
SOMEWHAT TO GIVE THESE          
SOMEWHAT TO GIVE THESE          
CMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATIONS.     
CMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATIONS.     
EACH ONE WILL BE ABOUT 15       
EACH ONE WILL BE ABOUT 15       
MINUTES, AND WE'LL TAKE A PAUSE 
MINUTES, AND WE'LL TAKE A PAUSE 
BETWEEN THEM SO THAT WE CAN     
BETWEEN THEM SO THAT WE CAN     
INVITE FOR DISCUSSION AND       
INVITE FOR DISCUSSION AND       
FEEDBACK.                       
FEEDBACK.                       
BUT THAT'S OUR PLAN FOR THIS    
BUT THAT'S OUR PLAN FOR THIS    
MORNING.                        
MORNING.                        
SO WE CAN JUMP RIGHT IN.        
SO WE CAN JUMP RIGHT IN.        
THE FIRST PRESENTATION IS AN    
THE FIRST PRESENTATION IS AN    
UPDATE ON THE FOUR RESOLUTIONS  
UPDATE ON THE FOUR RESOLUTIONS  
THAT WERE RELATED TO AFFORDABLE 
THAT WERE RELATED TO AFFORDABLE 
HOUSING.                        
HOUSING.                        
AS I SAID, WE WANTED TO DIG A   
AS I SAID, WE WANTED TO DIG A   
BIT DEEPER AND PROVIDE AN       
BIT DEEPER AND PROVIDE AN       
OVERALL HOUSING AFFORDABILITY   
OVERALL HOUSING AFFORDABILITY   
STRATEGY RESPONSE.              
STRATEGY RESPONSE.              
SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.          
SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.          
THIS GIVES A SUMMARY OF THE FOUR
THIS GIVES A SUMMARY OF THE FOUR
RESOLUTIONS WE'LL BE ADDRESSING 
RESOLUTIONS WE'LL BE ADDRESSING 
THIS MORNING.                   
THIS MORNING.                   
I WON'T GO INTO THE DETAILS OF  
I WON'T GO INTO THE DETAILS OF  
THEM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE IN     
THEM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE IN     
NOVEMBER OF 2019, THERE WERE    
NOVEMBER OF 2019, THERE WERE    
MOTIONS MADE AROUND TOOLS THAT  
MOTIONS MADE AROUND TOOLS THAT  
COULD HELP THE CITY FUND RAISE  
COULD HELP THE CITY FUND RAISE  
TO DRIVE PRIVATE FUNDS AND      
TO DRIVE PRIVATE FUNDS AND      
SUPPORT TOWARD AFFORDABLE       
SUPPORT TOWARD AFFORDABLE       
HOUSING AS WELL AS AN INQUIRY   
HOUSING AS WELL AS AN INQUIRY   
AROUND LAND BANKING AS A TOOL.  
AROUND LAND BANKING AS A TOOL.  
LATER IN DECEMBER, THERE WERE   
LATER IN DECEMBER, THERE WERE   
QUESTIONS RAISED ABOUT OUR      
QUESTIONS RAISED ABOUT OUR      
INCENTIVE OPTIONS AND HOW THOSE 
INCENTIVE OPTIONS AND HOW THOSE 
DRIVE AND INFLUENCE AFFORDABLE  
DRIVE AND INFLUENCE AFFORDABLE  
HOUSING.                        
HOUSING.                        
AND THEN IN FEBRUARY, THERE WAS 
AND THEN IN FEBRUARY, THERE WAS 
A QUESTION AROUND ZONING FOR    
A QUESTION AROUND ZONING FOR    
SMALL LOTS.                     
SMALL LOTS.                     
THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT ALL OF    
THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT ALL OF    
THESE NOTIONS ARE ACTUALLY      
THESE NOTIONS ARE ACTUALLY      
INTEGRATED INTO OUR AFFORDABLE  
INTEGRATED INTO OUR AFFORDABLE  
HOUSING STRATEGY.               
HOUSING STRATEGY.               
SO AS WE PRESENT THE UPDATE ON  
SO AS WE PRESENT THE UPDATE ON  
THE MAYOR'S ADVISORY REPORT,    
THE MAYOR'S ADVISORY REPORT,    
YOU'LL SEE THEM INTERWOVEN AND  
YOU'LL SEE THEM INTERWOVEN AND  
I'LL CALL THEM OUT AS WE GET TO 
I'LL CALL THEM OUT AS WE GET TO 
EACH ONE.                       
EACH ONE.                       
IN THE CONCLUSION, WE'LL BE     
IN THE CONCLUSION, WE'LL BE     
RESPONSIVE TO EACH ONE.         
RESPONSIVE TO EACH ONE.         
NEXT SLIDE.                     
NEXT SLIDE.                     
THE MAYOR'S HOUSING             
THE MAYOR'S HOUSING             
AFFORDABILITY ADVISORY REPORT   
AFFORDABILITY ADVISORY REPORT   
WAS ISSUED ON FEBRUARY 12th.    
WAS ISSUED ON FEBRUARY 12th.    
A NUMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL    
A NUMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL    
MEMBERS WERE IN ATTENDANCE THAT 
MEMBERS WERE IN ATTENDANCE THAT 
DAY.                            
DAY.                            
I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THE LAST  
I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THE LAST  
TIMES THAT WE WERE ALL ABLE TO  
TIMES THAT WE WERE ALL ABLE TO  
GATHER IN PUBLIC.               
GATHER IN PUBLIC.               
IT WAS A VERY PROUD MOMENT FOR  
IT WAS A VERY PROUD MOMENT FOR  
US TO RELEASE THAT REPORT.      
US TO RELEASE THAT REPORT.      
THE REPORT REFLECTED THE WORK OF
THE REPORT REFLECTED THE WORK OF
ABOUT 20 MEMBERS OF OUR         
ABOUT 20 MEMBERS OF OUR         
COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF PUBLIC   
COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF PUBLIC   
INPUT THAT WAS RECEIVED AS WELL.
INPUT THAT WAS RECEIVED AS WELL.
THAT GROUP WAS CO-CHAIRED BY    
THAT GROUP WAS CO-CHAIRED BY    
BISHOP DR. TOM SCOTT, TYLER     
BISHOP DR. TOM SCOTT, TYLER     
HUDSON AND BEMETRA SIMMONS.     
HUDSON AND BEMETRA SIMMONS.     
THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB AT    
THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB AT    
FACILITATING VERY ROBUST        
FACILITATING VERY ROBUST        
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW THE CITY  
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW THE CITY  
COULD TACKLE ITS AFFORDABLE     
COULD TACKLE ITS AFFORDABLE     
HOUSING CHALLENGES.             
HOUSING CHALLENGES.             
YOU CAN SEE JUST AN OUTLINE HERE
YOU CAN SEE JUST AN OUTLINE HERE
OF THE MAJOR OBJECTIVES THAT    
OF THE MAJOR OBJECTIVES THAT    
WERE SET FORTH, AND WE INTEND TO
WERE SET FORTH, AND WE INTEND TO
PRESENT SOME DETAILS ABOUT WHERE
PRESENT SOME DETAILS ABOUT WHERE
WE STAND WITH DELIVERING ON     
WE STAND WITH DELIVERING ON     
THOSE OBJECTIVES.               
THOSE OBJECTIVES.               
NEXT SLIDE.                     
NEXT SLIDE.                     
I THINK YOU CAN JUMP FORWARD    
I THINK YOU CAN JUMP FORWARD    
FROM THAT SLIDE AS WELL.        
FROM THAT SLIDE AS WELL.        
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
THE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY TEAM  
THE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY TEAM  
AND THE REPORT IS -- ALL OF THIS
AND THE REPORT IS -- ALL OF THIS
INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ONLINE.
INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ONLINE.
OBVIOUSLY, THE DETAIL, THE      
OBVIOUSLY, THE DETAIL, THE      
REPORT ITSELF IS ONLINE, BUT    
REPORT ITSELF IS ONLINE, BUT    
ALSO THE MEETING MINUTES, THE   
ALSO THE MEETING MINUTES, THE   
AGENDAS, ALL OF THE MATERIALS   
AGENDAS, ALL OF THE MATERIALS   
THAT COMPRISE AND DEVELOP INTO  
THAT COMPRISE AND DEVELOP INTO  
THE REPORT ARE ALL PART OF OUR  
THE REPORT ARE ALL PART OF OUR  
TRANSFORMING TAMPA'S TOMORROW   
TRANSFORMING TAMPA'S TOMORROW   
WEBSITE.                        
WEBSITE.                        
IF ANYONE WANTS TO DELVE DEEPER 
IF ANYONE WANTS TO DELVE DEEPER 
INTO THIS, ALL THE INFORMATION  
INTO THIS, ALL THE INFORMATION  
IS TRANSPARENTLY AVAILABLE.     
IS TRANSPARENTLY AVAILABLE.     
WHAT THE REPORT RESULTED IN AT  
WHAT THE REPORT RESULTED IN AT  
THE HIGH LEVEL WERE THREE KEY   
THE HIGH LEVEL WERE THREE KEY   
SECTORS, IF YOU WILL, OF        
SECTORS, IF YOU WILL, OF        
RECOMMENDATIONS.                
RECOMMENDATIONS.                
THE DRIVERS AROUND THE HOUSING  
THE DRIVERS AROUND THE HOUSING  
SUPPLY AND THE PROGRAMS THAT    
SUPPLY AND THE PROGRAMS THAT    
DRIVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, POLICY
DRIVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, POLICY
AND ALIGNMENT AND HOW WE CAN    
AND ALIGNMENT AND HOW WE CAN    
INFLUENCE THE DEVELOPMENT OF    
INFLUENCE THE DEVELOPMENT OF    
MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.        
MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.        
AND THEN ALWAYS SORT OF A       
AND THEN ALWAYS SORT OF A       
PRIORITY TO OUR EFFORTS IS THE  
PRIORITY TO OUR EFFORTS IS THE  
COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND          
COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND          
ENGAGEMENT PIECE.               
ENGAGEMENT PIECE.               
WE'LL STEP THROUGH EACH ONE AND 
WE'LL STEP THROUGH EACH ONE AND 
PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE   
PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE   
ARE.                            
ARE.                            
NEXT SLIDE.                     
NEXT SLIDE.                     
SO WE'LL START WITH TALKING     
SO WE'LL START WITH TALKING     
ABOUT HOUSING SUPPLY AND        
ABOUT HOUSING SUPPLY AND        
PROGRAMS.                       
PROGRAMS.                       
IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING, BUT I   
IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING, BUT I   
THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THIS 
THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THIS 
GROUP TO SAY, THAT THERE'S      
GROUP TO SAY, THAT THERE'S      
REALLY AT ITS MOST BASIC, THAT  
REALLY AT ITS MOST BASIC, THAT  
DEMAND WAS OUTDRIVING SUPPLY.   
DEMAND WAS OUTDRIVING SUPPLY.   
SO IN ORDER TO CREATE A GREATER 
SO IN ORDER TO CREATE A GREATER 
BALANCE, WE NEEDED TO TACKLE    
BALANCE, WE NEEDED TO TACKLE    
WAYS TO INCREASE SUPPLY AND THE 
WAYS TO INCREASE SUPPLY AND THE 
PROGRAMS THAT SUPPORT THAT.     
PROGRAMS THAT SUPPORT THAT.     
SO THE REPORT REFLECTS AND THE  
SO THE REPORT REFLECTS AND THE  
ADVISORY TEAM SETTLED ON HAVING 
ADVISORY TEAM SETTLED ON HAVING 
-- WE WANTED TO HAVE A SINGULAR 
-- WE WANTED TO HAVE A SINGULAR 
TARGET.                         
TARGET.                         
WE WANTED TO REALLY BE ABLE TO  
WE WANTED TO REALLY BE ABLE TO  
FRAME THIS RATHER THAN SAYING WE
FRAME THIS RATHER THAN SAYING WE
JUST NEED SORT OF MORE HOUSING. 
JUST NEED SORT OF MORE HOUSING. 
WELL, HOW MUCH HOUSING DO WE    
WELL, HOW MUCH HOUSING DO WE    
REALLY NEED?                    
REALLY NEED?                    
THERE IS DATA IN THE REPORT THAT
THERE IS DATA IN THE REPORT THAT
REFLECTS WHAT THE DRIVING DEMAND
REFLECTS WHAT THE DRIVING DEMAND
IS AND SOME EMPIRICAL           
IS AND SOME EMPIRICAL           
INFORMATION AROUND THAT.        
INFORMATION AROUND THAT.        
AS THAT WAS ALL DIGESTED, THE   
AS THAT WAS ALL DIGESTED, THE   
TEAM SETTLED ON A TARGET OF     
TEAM SETTLED ON A TARGET OF     
10,000 NEW HOUSING UNITS        
10,000 NEW HOUSING UNITS        
COMPLETED BY 2027.              
COMPLETED BY 2027.              
AND I'LL MAKE A COUPLE OF NOTES 
AND I'LL MAKE A COUPLE OF NOTES 
ABOUT THAT.                     
ABOUT THAT.                     
HOUSING UNIT COULD BE A         
HOUSING UNIT COULD BE A         
SINGLE-FAMILY OR A RENTAL UNIT  
SINGLE-FAMILY OR A RENTAL UNIT  
AND VERY MUCH SO, OUR INTENTIONS
AND VERY MUCH SO, OUR INTENTIONS
ARE THAT THESE TARGETS ARE NOT  
ARE THAT THESE TARGETS ARE NOT  
JUST ABOUT THE SUPPLY THAT THE  
JUST ABOUT THE SUPPLY THAT THE  
CITY SOURCES.                   
CITY SOURCES.                   
AS WE KNOW, THE CITY IS A       
AS WE KNOW, THE CITY IS A       
CONDUIT FOR FEDERAL FUNDS AND   
CONDUIT FOR FEDERAL FUNDS AND   
OTHER SUPPORT FUNDS THAT HELP   
OTHER SUPPORT FUNDS THAT HELP   
DRIVE THE ADDITION OF AFFORDABLE
DRIVE THE ADDITION OF AFFORDABLE
HOUSING.                        
HOUSING.                        
BUT MORE AND MORE, THE PRIVATE  
BUT MORE AND MORE, THE PRIVATE  
MARKET IS ADDING TO THIS.       
MARKET IS ADDING TO THIS.       
SO OUR TARGET IS INCLUSIVE OF   
SO OUR TARGET IS INCLUSIVE OF   
BOTH OUR PUBLIC SECTOR          
BOTH OUR PUBLIC SECTOR          
CONTRIBUTIONS AS WELL AS THE    
CONTRIBUTIONS AS WELL AS THE    
PRIVATE SECTOR ADDITIONS.       
PRIVATE SECTOR ADDITIONS.       
AND WE FEEL THAT THE PATH THAT  
AND WE FEEL THAT THE PATH THAT  
THE CITY CAN TAKE TO INFLUENCE  
THE CITY CAN TAKE TO INFLUENCE  
THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS ONE OF THE
THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS ONE OF THE
MOST CRITICAL DIRECTIONS THAT WE
MOST CRITICAL DIRECTIONS THAT WE
SEE AHEAD OF US.                
SEE AHEAD OF US.                
TO BE ABLE TO GROW THESE        
TO BE ABLE TO GROW THESE        
NUMBERS, THE RATIONALE FOR THE  
NUMBERS, THE RATIONALE FOR THE  
10,000 IS REALLY BASED ON       
10,000 IS REALLY BASED ON       
SETTING AN ACHIEVABLE BUT AN    
SETTING AN ACHIEVABLE BUT AN    
AMBITIOUS GOAL.                 
AMBITIOUS GOAL.                 
CURRENTLY, THE CITY PRODUCES OR 
CURRENTLY, THE CITY PRODUCES OR 
OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, IS 
OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, IS 
INVOLVED IN HELPING TO PRODUCE  
INVOLVED IN HELPING TO PRODUCE  
ABOUT 900 UNITS A YEAR.         
ABOUT 900 UNITS A YEAR.         
AND THAT IS, AGAIN, AS A CONDUIT
AND THAT IS, AGAIN, AS A CONDUIT
FOR FUNDS THAT FLOW THROUGH THE 
FOR FUNDS THAT FLOW THROUGH THE 
CITY.                           
CITY.                           
SO OUR DESIRE IS TO INCREASE    
SO OUR DESIRE IS TO INCREASE    
THAT BY ABOUT 38%.              
THAT BY ABOUT 38%.              
THAT WOULD ADD ABOUT 350 NEW    
THAT WOULD ADD ABOUT 350 NEW    
UNITS A YEAR TO ACHIEVE THAT    
UNITS A YEAR TO ACHIEVE THAT    
10,000 ADDITIONAL BY 2027.      
10,000 ADDITIONAL BY 2027.      
AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE CONTRIBUTED
AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE CONTRIBUTED
SUPPORT AND PROGRAMMING BUT ALSO
SUPPORT AND PROGRAMMING BUT ALSO
RELYING ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO
RELYING ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO
JOIN ALONG WITH SOLVING THIS    
JOIN ALONG WITH SOLVING THIS    
CHALLENGE.                      
CHALLENGE.                      
NEXT SLIDE.                     
NEXT SLIDE.                     
IN ADDITION TO ADDING NEW UNITS,
IN ADDITION TO ADDING NEW UNITS,
THE GROUP VERY MUCH FOCUSED ON  
THE GROUP VERY MUCH FOCUSED ON  
THE MAINTENANCE AND PRESERVATION
THE MAINTENANCE AND PRESERVATION
OF EXISTING HOUSING UNITS.      
OF EXISTING HOUSING UNITS.      
AS YOU CAN SEE LIKEWISE, THERE  
AS YOU CAN SEE LIKEWISE, THERE  
WAS A TARGET SET TO ENSURE THAT 
WAS A TARGET SET TO ENSURE THAT 
WE'RE ABLE TO PUT OUR RESOURCES 
WE'RE ABLE TO PUT OUR RESOURCES 
TOWARD MAINTAINING AND RESTORING
TOWARD MAINTAINING AND RESTORING
UP TO A HUNDRED HOUSING UNITS   
UP TO A HUNDRED HOUSING UNITS   
ANNUALLY, LIKE THE NEW UNIT     
ANNUALLY, LIKE THE NEW UNIT     
TARGET THAT'S BASED ON THE WORK 
TARGET THAT'S BASED ON THE WORK 
THAT IS ALREADY DONE BUT        
THAT IS ALREADY DONE BUT        
PROVIDES A BIT OF A STRETCH.    
PROVIDES A BIT OF A STRETCH.    
ACHIEVABLE BUT AMBITIOUS TO     
ACHIEVABLE BUT AMBITIOUS TO     
ENSURE THAT WE'RE UPPING THE    
ENSURE THAT WE'RE UPPING THE    
PRODUCTION ON OUR ASSISTANCE OUT
PRODUCTION ON OUR ASSISTANCE OUT
TO OUR EXISTING SUPPLY.         
TO OUR EXISTING SUPPLY.         
SO WITH THAT SET AS OUR         
SO WITH THAT SET AS OUR         
BENCHMARKS AND OUR TARGETS, WE  
BENCHMARKS AND OUR TARGETS, WE  
WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE  
WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE  
WE STAND TODAY AND WHAT OUR NEAR
WE STAND TODAY AND WHAT OUR NEAR
HORIZON LOOKS LIKE.             
HORIZON LOOKS LIKE.             
THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.         
THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.         
I'LL TURN OVER TO VANESSA TO    
I'LL TURN OVER TO VANESSA TO    
GIVE US A BRIEF UPDATE ON HOW WE
GIVE US A BRIEF UPDATE ON HOW WE
-- STARTING TO HIT SOME OF THOSE
-- STARTING TO HIT SOME OF THOSE
TARGETS.                        
TARGETS.                        
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: SO WHEN WE  
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: SO WHEN WE  
ARE DEVELOPING AFFORDABLE       
ARE DEVELOPING AFFORDABLE       
HOUSING, WE USUALLY HAVE TO LAY 
HOUSING, WE USUALLY HAVE TO LAY 
A FOUNDATION, AND THERE IS TIME 
A FOUNDATION, AND THERE IS TIME 
THAT IT TAKES TO BRING UNITS    
THAT IT TAKES TO BRING UNITS    
ONLINE.                         
ONLINE.                         
SO CURRENTLY, WE'VE BEEN WORKING
SO CURRENTLY, WE'VE BEEN WORKING
WITH OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS TO  
WITH OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS TO  
PRODUCE BOTH SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES
PRODUCE BOTH SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES
AS WELL AS MULTIFAMILY.         
AS WELL AS MULTIFAMILY.         
SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE WORKING WITH
SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE WORKING WITH
CDC, HABITAT AND EAST TAMPA     
CDC, HABITAT AND EAST TAMPA     
BUSINESS CIVIC ASSOCIATION.     
BUSINESS CIVIC ASSOCIATION.     
THEY ARE OUR SHODO              
THEY ARE OUR SHODO              
ORGANIZATIONS, COMMUNITY HOUSING
ORGANIZATIONS, COMMUNITY HOUSING
DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS.      
DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS.      
YOU CAN SEE THERE THEY ARE      
YOU CAN SEE THERE THEY ARE      
PRODUCING ABOUT 34 HOMES THIS   
PRODUCING ABOUT 34 HOMES THIS   
YEAR.                           
YEAR.                           
IN ADDITION, WE HAVE THE INFILL 
IN ADDITION, WE HAVE THE INFILL 
HOUSING PROJECT AND WE'LL GO    
HOUSING PROJECT AND WE'LL GO    
MORE IN DETAIL THE NEXT         
MORE IN DETAIL THE NEXT         
PRESENTATION.                   
PRESENTATION.                   
BUT THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, AND   
BUT THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, AND   
THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED WORKING 
THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED WORKING 
WITH FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPER.      
WITH FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPER.      
WE'RE GOING TO PRODUCE AT THE   
WE'RE GOING TO PRODUCE AT THE   
END OF THAT CONTRACT 96 NEW     
END OF THAT CONTRACT 96 NEW     
HOMES WITHIN A TWO-YEAR PERIOD. 
HOMES WITHIN A TWO-YEAR PERIOD. 
WE HAVE OUR PROPERTY DISPOSITION
WE HAVE OUR PROPERTY DISPOSITION
PROGRAM.                        
PROGRAM.                        
THAT'S WHERE WE ARE USING THE   
THAT'S WHERE WE ARE USING THE   
CURRENT CITY'S LAND BANK TO     
CURRENT CITY'S LAND BANK TO     
PROVIDE LOTS FREE TO DEVELOPERS 
PROVIDE LOTS FREE TO DEVELOPERS 
AS LONG AS THEY SELL THE HOMES  
AS LONG AS THEY SELL THE HOMES  
TO A LOW TO MODERATE INCOME     
TO A LOW TO MODERATE INCOME     
FAMILY.                         
FAMILY.                         
THAT ONE IS JUST REALLY STARTING
THAT ONE IS JUST REALLY STARTING
TO GET ITS LEGS, AND WE ARE     
TO GET ITS LEGS, AND WE ARE     
WORKING WITH OUR REAL ESTATE    
WORKING WITH OUR REAL ESTATE    
DIVISION TO ACQUIRE MORE        
DIVISION TO ACQUIRE MORE        
PROPERTY TO EXPAND THAT PROGRAM 
PROPERTY TO EXPAND THAT PROGRAM 
AND ALSO TO PUT THOSE LOTS INTO 
AND ALSO TO PUT THOSE LOTS INTO 
A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST THAT     
A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST THAT     
WOULD ALLOW THEM TO STAY        
WOULD ALLOW THEM TO STAY        
AFFORDABLE IN PERPETUITY.       
AFFORDABLE IN PERPETUITY.       
IN TERMS OF MULTIFAMILY, WE'VE  
IN TERMS OF MULTIFAMILY, WE'VE  
BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK IN     
BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK IN     
THOSE PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE     
THOSE PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE     
THERE.                          
THERE.                          
ALL BUT ONE IS IN THE WEST RIVER
ALL BUT ONE IS IN THE WEST RIVER
AREA.                           
AREA.                           
WE WORK WITH THE HOUSING        
WE WORK WITH THE HOUSING        
AUTHORITY WHEN THEY DEVELOPED   
AUTHORITY WHEN THEY DEVELOPED   
ENCORE FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, 
ENCORE FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, 
AND NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM 
AND NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM 
ON THE WEST RIVER PROJECT.      
ON THE WEST RIVER PROJECT.      
THESE ONES THAT YOU SEE ON HERE 
THESE ONES THAT YOU SEE ON HERE 
WILL COME ONLINE.               
WILL COME ONLINE.               
SOME WILL BE THIS YEAR AND THEN 
SOME WILL BE THIS YEAR AND THEN 
THE OTHERS WILL BE NEXT YEAR.   
THE OTHERS WILL BE NEXT YEAR.   
IN ADDITION, WE'RE WORKING WITH 
IN ADDITION, WE'RE WORKING WITH 
ANOTHER DEVELOPER WHO IS GOING  
ANOTHER DEVELOPER WHO IS GOING  
TO DO 102 UNITS OF SENIOR       
TO DO 102 UNITS OF SENIOR       
HOUSING IN EAST TAMPA.          
HOUSING IN EAST TAMPA.          
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.             
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.             
SO AS WE ARE LOOKING AT         
SO AS WE ARE LOOKING AT         
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ONE OF THE  
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ONE OF THE  
THINGS THAT THE REPORT CALLED   
THINGS THAT THE REPORT CALLED   
FOR WAS THAT WE ALSO LOOK AT    
FOR WAS THAT WE ALSO LOOK AT    
INNOVATIVE PROJECTS.            
INNOVATIVE PROJECTS.            
SO WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS  
SO WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS  
MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, BUT WE'RE  
MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, BUT WE'RE  
ALSO WORKING ON A COUPLE OF     
ALSO WORKING ON A COUPLE OF     
PILOTS RIGHT NOW.               
PILOTS RIGHT NOW.               
CONNIE BURTON HAS BEEN TALKING  
CONNIE BURTON HAS BEEN TALKING  
ABOUT CONTAINER HOMES, AND SO   
ABOUT CONTAINER HOMES, AND SO   
WE'VE HELPED HER TO IDENTIFY A  
WE'VE HELPED HER TO IDENTIFY A  
LOT, AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.  
LOT, AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.  
THAT IMAGE THAT YOU SEE THERE IS
THAT IMAGE THAT YOU SEE THERE IS
THE CONTAINER HOME THAT SHE IS  
THE CONTAINER HOME THAT SHE IS  
PLANNING TO PUT ON A LOT THAT   
PLANNING TO PUT ON A LOT THAT   
WE'LL BE PROVIDING.             
WE'LL BE PROVIDING.             
WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH ANOTHER 
WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH ANOTHER 
GROUP TO DO A TINY HOME PROJECT.
GROUP TO DO A TINY HOME PROJECT.
THESE ARE BOTH PILOTS BECAUSE AS
THESE ARE BOTH PILOTS BECAUSE AS
WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS       
WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS       
PROCESS WITH THEM, WE ARE       
PROCESS WITH THEM, WE ARE       
LOOKING AT THE ZONING           
LOOKING AT THE ZONING           
REQUIREMENTS AND REGULATORY     
REQUIREMENTS AND REGULATORY     
ISSUES THAT MAY ARISE SO WE CAN 
ISSUES THAT MAY ARISE SO WE CAN 
MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES
MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES
TO MAKE THE PROCESS SMOOTHER    
TO MAKE THE PROCESS SMOOTHER    
WHEN WE ROLL IT OUT AS A FULL   
WHEN WE ROLL IT OUT AS A FULL   
NEW METHOD FOR PRODUCING        
NEW METHOD FOR PRODUCING        
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.             
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.             
NEXT SLIDE.                     
NEXT SLIDE.                     
>>CAROLE POST: THANKS, VANESSA. 
>>CAROLE POST: THANKS, VANESSA. 
YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A LOT OF    
YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A LOT OF    
IRONS IN THE FIRE ALREADY, WHICH
IRONS IN THE FIRE ALREADY, WHICH
IS VERY POSITIVE.               
IS VERY POSITIVE.               
BUT WE KNOW THAT IT'S NOT       
BUT WE KNOW THAT IT'S NOT       
ENOUGH.                         
ENOUGH.                         
SO OUR STRATEGY IS INTENDED TO  
SO OUR STRATEGY IS INTENDED TO  
TURN OVER EVERY ROCK, LITERALLY,
TURN OVER EVERY ROCK, LITERALLY,
AND ENSURE THAT WE ARE MAKING   
AND ENSURE THAT WE ARE MAKING   
HIGHEST AND BEST USE OUT OF ALL 
HIGHEST AND BEST USE OUT OF ALL 
OF OUR ASSETS.                  
OF OUR ASSETS.                  
SO ONE ADDITIONAL PART OF OUR   
SO ONE ADDITIONAL PART OF OUR   
STRATEGY IS TO REVISIT THE      
STRATEGY IS TO REVISIT THE      
HOUSING ASSETS -- OR THE REAL   
HOUSING ASSETS -- OR THE REAL   
PROPERTY ASSETS THAT WE         
PROPERTY ASSETS THAT WE         
CURRENTLY HOLD TITLE TO AND     
CURRENTLY HOLD TITLE TO AND     
ASSESS HOW THEY COULD BE        
ASSESS HOW THEY COULD BE        
REPURPOSED FOR THE AFFORDABLE   
REPURPOSED FOR THE AFFORDABLE   
HOUSING CHALLENGE.              
HOUSING CHALLENGE.              
IN DOING THAT, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE
IN DOING THAT, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE
TO -- ACTUALLY HAVE NOT BEEN    
TO -- ACTUALLY HAVE NOT BEEN    
PREVIOUSLY DONE.                
PREVIOUSLY DONE.                
WE'VE MAPPED ALL OF OUR REAL    
WE'VE MAPPED ALL OF OUR REAL    
ESTATE ASSETS SO THAT WE CAN    
ESTATE ASSETS SO THAT WE CAN    
IDENTIFY WHERE THEY ARE, HOW    
IDENTIFY WHERE THEY ARE, HOW    
THEY FACTOR INTO THE COMMUNITY  
THEY FACTOR INTO THE COMMUNITY  
OR THE LOCATION THAT THEY ARE   
OR THE LOCATION THAT THEY ARE   
IN, WHAT THE ZONING IS, WHAT THE
IN, WHAT THE ZONING IS, WHAT THE
SIZE AND DIMENSIONS OF EACH LOT 
SIZE AND DIMENSIONS OF EACH LOT 
AND EACH PARCEL ARE, WHAT THEY  
AND EACH PARCEL ARE, WHAT THEY  
ARE PROXIMATE TO AND SO ON.     
ARE PROXIMATE TO AND SO ON.     
AND A WIDE RANGE OF ASSESSMENTS 
AND A WIDE RANGE OF ASSESSMENTS 
THAT WILL ENABLE US TO IDENTIFY 
THAT WILL ENABLE US TO IDENTIFY 
THOSE THAT WOULD BE MOST        
THOSE THAT WOULD BE MOST        
SUITABLE FOR HOUSING            
SUITABLE FOR HOUSING            
AFFORDABILITY PROJECTS.         
AFFORDABILITY PROJECTS.         
AND WE THINK WITH SO MANY OF    
AND WE THINK WITH SO MANY OF    
THESE THINGS, THERE'S NO ONE    
THESE THINGS, THERE'S NO ONE    
SIZE FITS ALL.                  
SIZE FITS ALL.                  
SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO HAVE    
SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO HAVE    
JUST A SINGULAR APPROACH TO HOW 
JUST A SINGULAR APPROACH TO HOW 
WE USE THESE ASSETS, BUT RATHER 
WE USE THESE ASSETS, BUT RATHER 
BE SELECTIVE AND TARGETED FOR   
BE SELECTIVE AND TARGETED FOR   
WHAT EACH -- HOW EACH PARCEL IN 
WHAT EACH -- HOW EACH PARCEL IN 
EACH COMMUNITY AND LITERALLY    
EACH COMMUNITY AND LITERALLY    
DOWN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN    
DOWN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN    
BEST SERVE IN ITS LOCATION.     
BEST SERVE IN ITS LOCATION.     
SO WE'RE REVISITING THAT NOTION.
SO WE'RE REVISITING THAT NOTION.
AN ADDITIONAL LAYER IS          
AN ADDITIONAL LAYER IS          
REVISITING THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES
REVISITING THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES
THAT EXIST ACROSS THE CITY.     
THAT EXIST ACROSS THE CITY.     
THERE ARE 22 ZONES ACROSS THE   
THERE ARE 22 ZONES ACROSS THE   
CITY OF TAMPA.                  
CITY OF TAMPA.                  
THERE'S ONLY TWO OF THEM THAT   
THERE'S ONLY TWO OF THEM THAT   
HAVE REALLY BEEN TAPPED IN      
HAVE REALLY BEEN TAPPED IN      
EARNEST FOR THE BENEFIT THAT CAN
EARNEST FOR THE BENEFIT THAT CAN
BE DERIVED AS AN OPPORTUNITY    
BE DERIVED AS AN OPPORTUNITY    
ZONE.                           
ZONE.                           
WE THINK THERE'S STILL MUCH MORE
WE THINK THERE'S STILL MUCH MORE
POTENTIAL.                      
POTENTIAL.                      
I THINK YOU'RE HEARING A LOT    
I THINK YOU'RE HEARING A LOT    
MORE ABOUT THIS AS NEW          
MORE ABOUT THIS AS NEW          
INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES ARE    
INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES ARE    
SURFACING.                      
SURFACING.                      
SO WE'D LIKE TO GET BACK INTO   
SO WE'D LIKE TO GET BACK INTO   
THE BUSINESS OF UNDERSTANDING   
THE BUSINESS OF UNDERSTANDING   
WHAT OPPORTUNITY ZONES LOOK     
WHAT OPPORTUNITY ZONES LOOK     
LIKE, WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED AND
LIKE, WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED AND
HOW WE COULD MARKET THEM FOR AN 
HOW WE COULD MARKET THEM FOR AN 
APPROPRIATE INVESTMENT THAT CAN 
APPROPRIATE INVESTMENT THAT CAN 
SERVE EACH OF THE RESPECTIVE    
SERVE EACH OF THE RESPECTIVE    
COMMUNITIES.                    
COMMUNITIES.                    
AND THEN THE LAST PIECE FOR OUR 
AND THEN THE LAST PIECE FOR OUR 
HOUSING ASSET STRATEGY IS REALLY
HOUSING ASSET STRATEGY IS REALLY
REFOCUSING ON DRIVING INFILL    
REFOCUSING ON DRIVING INFILL    
HOUSING, AS VANESSA REFERRED TO,
HOUSING, AS VANESSA REFERRED TO,
WE HAD THE INFILL HOUSING       
WE HAD THE INFILL HOUSING       
PROGRAM WITH DOMAIN, CDC AND    
PROGRAM WITH DOMAIN, CDC AND    
HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.           
HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.           
THAT WILL BE OUR SECOND         
THAT WILL BE OUR SECOND         
PRESENTATION WHERE WE'LL GIVE A 
PRESENTATION WHERE WE'LL GIVE A 
DEEP DIVE ON HOW THAT PROGRAM   
DEEP DIVE ON HOW THAT PROGRAM   
UNFOLDED, WHAT RESULTS WE'VE    
UNFOLDED, WHAT RESULTS WE'VE    
SEEN, AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO    
SEEN, AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO    
LEARN FROM IT MOVING FORWARD    
LEARN FROM IT MOVING FORWARD    
WITH SOME POTENTIAL FUTURE PLAN.
WITH SOME POTENTIAL FUTURE PLAN.
LET ME TURN THE NEXT SLIDE AND  
LET ME TURN THE NEXT SLIDE AND  
WE'LL ADDRESS TWO OF THE FOUR   
WE'LL ADDRESS TWO OF THE FOUR   
RESOLUTIONS MOVING FORWARD.     
RESOLUTIONS MOVING FORWARD.     
SO THOSE TWO RESOLUTIONS THAT   
SO THOSE TWO RESOLUTIONS THAT   
SURFACED IN NOVEMBER HAD TO DO  
SURFACED IN NOVEMBER HAD TO DO  
WITH INQUIRIES AROUND PRIVATE   
WITH INQUIRIES AROUND PRIVATE   
FUND-RAISING AND LAND BANKING.  
FUND-RAISING AND LAND BANKING.  
I'M HAPPY TO SAY WE HAVE VERY   
I'M HAPPY TO SAY WE HAVE VERY   
POSITIVE PROGRESS ON BOTH OF    
POSITIVE PROGRESS ON BOTH OF    
THOSE.                          
THOSE.                          
JUST RECENTLY, WE ESTABLISHED A 
JUST RECENTLY, WE ESTABLISHED A 
501(C)(3) THAT WILL EXIST ON    
501(C)(3) THAT WILL EXIST ON    
BEHALF OF THE CITY TO BE        
BEHALF OF THE CITY TO BE        
PHILANTHROPIC ARM, AND IT WILL  
PHILANTHROPIC ARM, AND IT WILL  
ALSO SERVE TO GOVERN AND GUIDE  
ALSO SERVE TO GOVERN AND GUIDE  
THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST WHICH  
THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST WHICH  
WILL ESSENTIALLY SERVE AS A LAND
WILL ESSENTIALLY SERVE AS A LAND
BANK IN THE CONTEXT OF HOW THE  
BANK IN THE CONTEXT OF HOW THE  
REQUEST OR THE INQUIRY WAS MADE.
REQUEST OR THE INQUIRY WAS MADE.
THE 501(C)(3) IS IN THE FORM OF 
THE 501(C)(3) IS IN THE FORM OF 
ONE TAMPA.                      
ONE TAMPA.                      
YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT ONE TAMPA    
YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT ONE TAMPA    
THESE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS.      
THESE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS.      
IT WAS ACTUALLY INITIATED AND   
IT WAS ACTUALLY INITIATED AND   
BECAME THE MECHANISM THAT WE    
BECAME THE MECHANISM THAT WE    
USED TO ENABLE ALL OF OUR COVID 
USED TO ENABLE ALL OF OUR COVID 
RELIEF PROGRAMS.                
RELIEF PROGRAMS.                
THE NECESSITY OF DOING THAT WAS 
THE NECESSITY OF DOING THAT WAS 
FORTUITOUS FOR US, IF THERE'S   
FORTUITOUS FOR US, IF THERE'S   
ANY SILVER LININGS THAT COULD   
ANY SILVER LININGS THAT COULD   
COME OUT OF COVID, WE WERE ABLE 
COME OUT OF COVID, WE WERE ABLE 
TO SPIN THAT GROUP UP VERY      
TO SPIN THAT GROUP UP VERY      
QUICKLY AND THAT ORGANIZATION,  
QUICKLY AND THAT ORGANIZATION,  
AND NOW HERE IT IS, AND WE'LL BE
AND NOW HERE IT IS, AND WE'LL BE
ABLE TO REPURPOSE IT AND RETOOL 
ABLE TO REPURPOSE IT AND RETOOL 
IT SO THAT IT CAN BE A LONG-TERM
IT SO THAT IT CAN BE A LONG-TERM
TOOL TO DRIVE PRIVATE INVESTMENT
TOOL TO DRIVE PRIVATE INVESTMENT
AND BE A PHILANTHROPIC ARM FOR  
AND BE A PHILANTHROPIC ARM FOR  
AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.      
AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.      
AS I SAID, IT WILL ALSO ■BETHE  
AS I SAID, IT WILL ALSO ■BETHE  
MECHANISM TO INITIATE AND       
MECHANISM TO INITIATE AND       
GOVERNOR THE COMMUNITY LAND     
GOVERNOR THE COMMUNITY LAND     
TRUST, WHICH IS ON OUR NEAR     
TRUST, WHICH IS ON OUR NEAR     
HORIZON AS WELL.                
HORIZON AS WELL.                
NEXT SLIDE.                     
NEXT SLIDE.                     
I THINK YOU CAN SEE THERE THE   
I THINK YOU CAN SEE THERE THE   
ONE POINT NOT TO OVERLOOK IS    
ONE POINT NOT TO OVERLOOK IS    
THAT OUR 501(C)(3) CAN ALSO BE A
THAT OUR 501(C)(3) CAN ALSO BE A
TOOL FOR EVEN FURTHER LONGER    
TOOL FOR EVEN FURTHER LONGER    
TERM INITIATIVE SUCH AS A       
TERM INITIATIVE SUCH AS A       
HOUSING TRUST FUND, WHICH WAS   
HOUSING TRUST FUND, WHICH WAS   
ALSO RECOMMENDED IN OUR ADVISORY
ALSO RECOMMENDED IN OUR ADVISORY
REPORT.                         
REPORT.                         
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL   
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL   
SEE DOWN THE FUTURE ROAD.       
SEE DOWN THE FUTURE ROAD.       
LET ME JUST TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY
LET ME JUST TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY
LAND TRUST FOR A MOMENT.        
LAND TRUST FOR A MOMENT.        
COMMUNITY LAND TRUST IS A VERY  
COMMUNITY LAND TRUST IS A VERY  
COMMON TOOL USED ACROSS THE     
COMMON TOOL USED ACROSS THE     
COUNTRY.                        
COUNTRY.                        
IN MANY CASES, EXTREMELY        
IN MANY CASES, EXTREMELY        
SUCCESSFULLY, TO PROVIDE A      
SUCCESSFULLY, TO PROVIDE A      
MECHANISM TO BOTH DRIVE AND     
MECHANISM TO BOTH DRIVE AND     
INFLUENCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING    
INFLUENCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING    
DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO TO        
DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO TO        
MAINTAIN IT AND ENSURE THAT IT  
MAINTAIN IT AND ENSURE THAT IT  
SUSTAINS AS AFFORDABLE OVER     
SUSTAINS AS AFFORDABLE OVER     
TIME.                           
TIME.                           
THIS IS A VISUAL THAT REPRESENTS
THIS IS A VISUAL THAT REPRESENTS
KIND OF HOW IT WORKS AND WHY IT 
KIND OF HOW IT WORKS AND WHY IT 
WORKS.                          
WORKS.                          
BUT THE UPSHOT, WITHOUT GETTING 
BUT THE UPSHOT, WITHOUT GETTING 
TOO INTO THE WEEDS, IS THAT THE 
TOO INTO THE WEEDS, IS THAT THE 
BUYERS OF THE HOME ARE PAYING   
BUYERS OF THE HOME ARE PAYING   
FOR THE BUILDING.               
FOR THE BUILDING.               
THEY DO NOT PAY FOR THE         
THEY DO NOT PAY FOR THE         
UNDERLYING LAND.                
UNDERLYING LAND.                
THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST RETAINS
THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST RETAINS
TITLE TO ALL OF THE LAND THAT IT
TITLE TO ALL OF THE LAND THAT IT
HAS TITLE TO, AND IT CONVEYS THE
HAS TITLE TO, AND IT CONVEYS THE
PROPERTY THAT'S SITTING ON THE  
PROPERTY THAT'S SITTING ON THE  
LAND.                           
LAND.                           
SO RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE, YOU   
SO RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE, YOU   
TAKE OUT THE LAND COST, WHICH   
TAKE OUT THE LAND COST, WHICH   
REALLY DRIVES AFFORDABILITY     
REALLY DRIVES AFFORDABILITY     
TREMENDOUSLY.                   
TREMENDOUSLY.                   
SO THE BUYER BUYS THE BUILDING. 
SO THE BUYER BUYS THE BUILDING. 
THE GOOD SIDE OF THIS IS THAT   
THE GOOD SIDE OF THIS IS THAT   
THE BUYER CAN LIVE IN, RESIDE,  
THE BUYER CAN LIVE IN, RESIDE,  
ADAPT, MODIFY.                  
ADAPT, MODIFY.                  
IT LOOKS AND FEELS JUST LIKE    
IT LOOKS AND FEELS JUST LIKE    
HOME OWNERSHIP, WHICH IS WHAT   
HOME OWNERSHIP, WHICH IS WHAT   
YOU WANT TO HAVE AND TO PROVIDE 
YOU WANT TO HAVE AND TO PROVIDE 
THAT SENSE OF OWNER OCCUPANCY   
THAT SENSE OF OWNER OCCUPANCY   
RESPONSIBILITY.                 
RESPONSIBILITY.                 
THE CLT GOVERN THAT.            
THE CLT GOVERN THAT.            
THERE ARE CERTAIN STANDARDS THAT
THERE ARE CERTAIN STANDARDS THAT
APPLY TO THAT.                  
APPLY TO THAT.                  
MORE IMPORTANTLY, AT RESALE,    
MORE IMPORTANTLY, AT RESALE,    
THERE IS A FORMULA THAT APPLIES 
THERE IS A FORMULA THAT APPLIES 
TO THE PURCHASE AND SALE THAT   
TO THE PURCHASE AND SALE THAT   
ENABLES A BUYER TO YIELD A      
ENABLES A BUYER TO YIELD A      
RETURN SO THAT, AGAIN, YOU GET  
RETURN SO THAT, AGAIN, YOU GET  
TO ENJOY THE BENEFIT OF HOME    
TO ENJOY THE BENEFIT OF HOME    
OWNERSHIP, BUT IT HAS CAPS AND  
OWNERSHIP, BUT IT HAS CAPS AND  
IT HAS SOME MAXIMUMS SO THAT THE
IT HAS SOME MAXIMUMS SO THAT THE
PARCELS CAN STAY, THE HOMES CAN 
PARCELS CAN STAY, THE HOMES CAN 
STAY AFFORDABLE FOR FUTURE      
STAY AFFORDABLE FOR FUTURE      
BUYERS, TYPICALLY THROUGH A     
BUYERS, TYPICALLY THROUGH A     
99-YEAR GROUND LEASE.           
99-YEAR GROUND LEASE.           
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE    
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE    
TRYING TO ACHIEVE.              
TRYING TO ACHIEVE.              
I THINK WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS 
I THINK WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS 
IN BEGINNING TO REALLY BUILD    
IN BEGINNING TO REALLY BUILD    
SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRITICAL
SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRITICAL
MASS, AND MOST OF WHAT YOU'LL   
MASS, AND MOST OF WHAT YOU'LL   
HEAR ABOUT IN OUR NEXT          
HEAR ABOUT IN OUR NEXT          
PRESENTATION HAS SIMILAR SALE   
PRESENTATION HAS SIMILAR SALE   
AND INCOME RESTRICTIONS, BUT AT 
AND INCOME RESTRICTIONS, BUT AT 
SOME POINT, THOSE RESTRICTIONS  
SOME POINT, THOSE RESTRICTIONS  
FALL AWAY.                      
FALL AWAY.                      
AND AS NEIGHBORHOODS ARE RISING,
AND AS NEIGHBORHOODS ARE RISING,
WHICH IS A POSITIVE THING, THE  
WHICH IS A POSITIVE THING, THE  
LAND VALUES AND THE PROPERTY    
LAND VALUES AND THE PROPERTY    
VALUES START TO RISE.           
VALUES START TO RISE.           
SUDDENLY WHAT WAS AFFORDABLE    
SUDDENLY WHAT WAS AFFORDABLE    
BECOMES NO LONGER AFFORDABLE.   
BECOMES NO LONGER AFFORDABLE.   
AND THAT IS THE EPIDEMIC PROBLEM
AND THAT IS THE EPIDEMIC PROBLEM
IS HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN THE      
IS HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN THE      
AFFORDABILITY OVER TIME?        
AFFORDABILITY OVER TIME?        
THAT'S WHERE THE COMMUNITY LAND 
THAT'S WHERE THE COMMUNITY LAND 
TRUSTS HAVE REALLY PROVEN TO BE 
TRUSTS HAVE REALLY PROVEN TO BE 
SUCCESSFUL.                     
SUCCESSFUL.                     
NEXT SLIDE.                     
NEXT SLIDE.                     
AS I SAID, WE RECOGNIZE AND THE 
AS I SAID, WE RECOGNIZE AND THE 
ADVISORY TEAM RECOGNIZE THAT    
ADVISORY TEAM RECOGNIZE THAT    
THESE COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS ARE 
THESE COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS ARE 
NOT SOMETHING NEW.              
NOT SOMETHING NEW.              
UNFORTUNATELY, TAMPA IS NOT     
UNFORTUNATELY, TAMPA IS NOT     
GOING TO BE TRAILBLAZING HERE,  
GOING TO BE TRAILBLAZING HERE,  
BUT THEY ARE PROVEN, AND I'LL   
BUT THEY ARE PROVEN, AND I'LL   
LET VANESSA SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT 
LET VANESSA SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT 
EXPERIENCES SHE'S HAD WITH THEM 
EXPERIENCES SHE'S HAD WITH THEM 
ACROSS WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AND   
ACROSS WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AND   
AROUND THE COUNTRY.             
AROUND THE COUNTRY.             
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: COMMUNITY   
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: COMMUNITY   
LAND TRUST, LIKE SHE WASING,    
LAND TRUST, LIKE SHE WASING,    
HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.   
HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.   
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE FIRST ONE   
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE FIRST ONE   
WAS IN ALBANY, GEORGIA, 50 YEARS
WAS IN ALBANY, GEORGIA, 50 YEARS
AGO, WHEN I WAS IN NORTH        
AGO, WHEN I WAS IN NORTH        
CAROLINA, WHICH WAS OVER 15     
CAROLINA, WHICH WAS OVER 15     
YEARS AGO, COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS
YEARS AGO, COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS
WERE BEING USED THERE TO HELP   
WERE BEING USED THERE TO HELP   
HOUSE THE HOMELESS REQUESTS TO  
HOUSE THE HOMELESS REQUESTS TO  
PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.     
PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.     
THEY ARE AN ALTERNATIVE TO      
THEY ARE AN ALTERNATIVE TO      
RENTING.                        
RENTING.                        
THEY ARE NOT AN ALTERNATIVE TO  
THEY ARE NOT AN ALTERNATIVE TO  
HOME OWNERSHIP.                 
HOME OWNERSHIP.                 
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT THIS
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT THIS
IS TO HELP DRIVE DOWN THE COST  
IS TO HELP DRIVE DOWN THE COST  
TO MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE TO   
TO MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE TO   
RENTERS.                        
RENTERS.                        
BUT ANYBODY THAT CAN AFFORD TO  
BUT ANYBODY THAT CAN AFFORD TO  
PURCHASE A HOME ON THE MARKET   
PURCHASE A HOME ON THE MARKET   
SHOULD REALLY GO THROUGH THE    
SHOULD REALLY GO THROUGH THE    
TRADITIONAL HOME OWNERSHIP ROUTE
TRADITIONAL HOME OWNERSHIP ROUTE
WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE THESE KIND
WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE THESE KIND
OF RESTRICTIONS.                
OF RESTRICTIONS.                
THIS IS ANOTHER TOOL THAT WE    
THIS IS ANOTHER TOOL THAT WE    
BELIEVE IS GOING TO BE A VERY   
BELIEVE IS GOING TO BE A VERY   
VALUABLE ONE IN OUR TOOLBOX,    
VALUABLE ONE IN OUR TOOLBOX,    
LIKE WHAT CAROL WAS SAYING,     
LIKE WHAT CAROL WAS SAYING,     
BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THESE RISING 
BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THESE RISING 
COSTS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE 
COSTS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE 
THAT THERE ARE AFFORDABLE       
THAT THERE ARE AFFORDABLE       
HOUSING OPTIONS THROUGHOUT THE  
HOUSING OPTIONS THROUGHOUT THE  
CITY.                           
CITY.                           
SO WE WILL BE LOOKING TO ACQUIRE
SO WE WILL BE LOOKING TO ACQUIRE
PROPERTY THAT IS NEAR TO        
PROPERTY THAT IS NEAR TO        
TRANSPORTATION HUBS, THAT WE CAN
TRANSPORTATION HUBS, THAT WE CAN
TURN INTO -- WE CAN ADD TO THE  
TURN INTO -- WE CAN ADD TO THE  
LAND TRUST, SO THAT PLACE WILL  
LAND TRUST, SO THAT PLACE WILL  
ALWAYS BE AFFORDABLE, AND WE CAN
ALWAYS BE AFFORDABLE, AND WE CAN
MIX UP THE INCOME THROUGHOUT OUR
MIX UP THE INCOME THROUGHOUT OUR
COMMUNITY.                      
COMMUNITY.                      
AS YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, YOU'LL  
AS YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, YOU'LL  
SEE THAT LAND TRUSTS ARE --     
SEE THAT LAND TRUSTS ARE --     
THERE ARE 21 LAND TRUSTS IN     
THERE ARE 21 LAND TRUSTS IN     
FLORIDA.                        
FLORIDA.                        
BRIGHT COMMUNITY TRUST, WHICH IS
BRIGHT COMMUNITY TRUST, WHICH IS
ONE OF THE MORE FAMILIAR ONES IN
ONE OF THE MORE FAMILIAR ONES IN
OUR AREA, IN PINELLAS COUNTY.   
OUR AREA, IN PINELLAS COUNTY.   
HANNIBAL SQUARE AND THE NEWEST  
HANNIBAL SQUARE AND THE NEWEST  
ONE IS THE REGIONAL HOUSING     
ONE IS THE REGIONAL HOUSING     
TRUST IN ORLANDO.               
TRUST IN ORLANDO.               
SO THEY ARE POPPING UP ALL OVER.
SO THEY ARE POPPING UP ALL OVER.
WE'RE NOT BLAZING A TRAIL, BUT  
WE'RE NOT BLAZING A TRAIL, BUT  
WE'RE GOING TO DO IT BETTER.    
WE'RE GOING TO DO IT BETTER.    
>>CAROLE POST: YES, FOR SURE.   
>>CAROLE POST: YES, FOR SURE.   
THANK YOU, VANESSA.             
THANK YOU, VANESSA.             
NEXT SLIDE.                     
NEXT SLIDE.                     
WE'LL MOVE ON.                  
WE'LL MOVE ON.                  
YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE A LOT
YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE A LOT
OF TOOLS THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN  
OF TOOLS THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN  
THE TOOL KIT FOR ADDING UNITS   
THE TOOL KIT FOR ADDING UNITS   
AND MAINTAINING UNITS AND       
AND MAINTAINING UNITS AND       
THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX        
THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX        
SOMEWHAT, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT 
SOMEWHAT, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT 
WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT OUR      
WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT OUR      
POLICIES AND OUR PROTOCOLS HERE 
POLICIES AND OUR PROTOCOLS HERE 
ALIGN TO SUPPORT THAT AGENDA.   
ALIGN TO SUPPORT THAT AGENDA.   
SO NEXT SLIDE.                  
SO NEXT SLIDE.                  
ONE OF THE MAJOR ASPECTS OF THE 
ONE OF THE MAJOR ASPECTS OF THE 
ADVISORY TEAM'S RECOMMENDATIONS 
ADVISORY TEAM'S RECOMMENDATIONS 
HAD TO DO WITH POLICY ALIGNMENT.
HAD TO DO WITH POLICY ALIGNMENT.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CODE AND  
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CODE AND  
ZONING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE 
ZONING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE 
SET FORTH IN THE REPORT.        
SET FORTH IN THE REPORT.        
I'VE SUMMARIZED SOME OF THEM    
I'VE SUMMARIZED SOME OF THEM    
HERE.                           
HERE.                           
AND WE WON'T GO INTO THESE      
AND WE WON'T GO INTO THESE      
DETAILS.                        
DETAILS.                        
BUT THESE ARE ALL EFFORTS THAT  
BUT THESE ARE ALL EFFORTS THAT  
NOW WE ARE WORKING ON ACROSS OUR
NOW WE ARE WORKING ON ACROSS OUR
PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TEAM,  
PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TEAM,  
OUR LEGAL TEAM AND OTHERS.      
OUR LEGAL TEAM AND OTHERS.      
SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE   
SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE   
HAS BECOME A BIG PLAYER IN THIS 
HAS BECOME A BIG PLAYER IN THIS 
AS WELL, WHERE MOBILITY,        
AS WELL, WHERE MOBILITY,        
TRANSPORTATION, IT SORT OF      
TRANSPORTATION, IT SORT OF      
TOUCHES EVERYBODY.              
TOUCHES EVERYBODY.              
YOU CAN SEE HOW WE'RE LOOKING TO
YOU CAN SEE HOW WE'RE LOOKING TO
CREATE A HARMONY BETWEEN WHAT   
CREATE A HARMONY BETWEEN WHAT   
OUR CODE AND ZONING PROVISIONS  
OUR CODE AND ZONING PROVISIONS  
ARE, AND THAT THEY SUPPORT AND  
ARE, AND THAT THEY SUPPORT AND  
DRIVE AND POSITIVELY INFLUENCE  
DRIVE AND POSITIVELY INFLUENCE  
THE DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE   
THE DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE   
HOUSING.                        
HOUSING.                        
SOME OF IT HAS TO DO WITH       
SOME OF IT HAS TO DO WITH       
DENSITY AND SOME OF THESE       
DENSITY AND SOME OF THESE       
MATTERS WILL ACTUALLY COME      
MATTERS WILL ACTUALLY COME      
BEFORE THE COUNCIL IN THE COMING
BEFORE THE COUNCIL IN THE COMING
MONTHS.                         
MONTHS.                         
WE HAVE A GROWTH MANAGEMENT     
WE HAVE A GROWTH MANAGEMENT     
WORKSHOP THAT WE'LL BE          
WORKSHOP THAT WE'LL BE          
DISCUSSING SOME OF THE          
DISCUSSING SOME OF THE          
OPPORTUNITIES AROUND CHANGES TO 
OPPORTUNITIES AROUND CHANGES TO 
OUR ZONING THAT WILL HELP       
OUR ZONING THAT WILL HELP       
INFLUENCE, POSITIVELY INFLUENCE 
INFLUENCE, POSITIVELY INFLUENCE 
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.             
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.             
WE'VE OFTEN HEARD HOW THE COST  
WE'VE OFTEN HEARD HOW THE COST  
OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING CAN BE    
OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING CAN BE    
DRIVEN BY SOME OF THE PERIPHERAL
DRIVEN BY SOME OF THE PERIPHERAL
SUPPORTS LIKE PARKING AND OTHER 
SUPPORTS LIKE PARKING AND OTHER 
MATTERS, IMPACT FEES AND THE    
MATTERS, IMPACT FEES AND THE    
LIKE, ALL OF WHICH TO A LARGE   
LIKE, ALL OF WHICH TO A LARGE   
EXTENT, WE CAN CONTROL AND      
EXTENT, WE CAN CONTROL AND      
INFLUENCE AND CERTAINLY WITH THE
INFLUENCE AND CERTAINLY WITH THE
COUNCIL'S SUPPORT AND INPUT, WE 
COUNCIL'S SUPPORT AND INPUT, WE 
CAN HELP SHAPE A CODE, FORUM    
CAN HELP SHAPE A CODE, FORUM    
THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT    
THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT    
WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE FOR     
WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE FOR     
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.             
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.             
NEXT SLIDE.                     
NEXT SLIDE.                     
ONE THING IN PARTICULAR THAT WE 
ONE THING IN PARTICULAR THAT WE 
DID WANT TO FOCUS ON THIS       
DID WANT TO FOCUS ON THIS       
MORNING WAS AROUND THE INCENTIVE
MORNING WAS AROUND THE INCENTIVE
OPTIONS.                        
OPTIONS.                        
IT WAS, AGAIN, ONE OF THE       
IT WAS, AGAIN, ONE OF THE       
RESOLUTIONS THAT WAS PASSED IN  
RESOLUTIONS THAT WAS PASSED IN  
DECEMBER.                       
DECEMBER.                       
INQUIRING AROUND HOW OUR        
INQUIRING AROUND HOW OUR        
INCENTIVE OPTIONS INFLUENCE AND 
INCENTIVE OPTIONS INFLUENCE AND 
WHETHER THEY ARE WORKING OR NOT 
WHETHER THEY ARE WORKING OR NOT 
WORKING.                        
WORKING.                        
WE'VE ALREADY DUG INTO THAT     
WE'VE ALREADY DUG INTO THAT     
PRE-ACTIVELY.                   
PRE-ACTIVELY.                   
I'LL LET VANESSA SHARE WITH YOU 
I'LL LET VANESSA SHARE WITH YOU 
WHERE WE ARE REEXAMINING HOW OUR
WHERE WE ARE REEXAMINING HOW OUR
INCENTIVE OPTIONS ARE DRIVING   
INCENTIVE OPTIONS ARE DRIVING   
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.             
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.             
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: WORKING WITH
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: WORKING WITH
MY COUNTERPARTS IN PLANNING AND 
MY COUNTERPARTS IN PLANNING AND 
DEVELOPMENT, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING 
DEVELOPMENT, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING 
AT THE INCENTIVES THAT CURRENTLY
AT THE INCENTIVES THAT CURRENTLY
EXIST AND HOW TO STRENGTHEN THE 
EXIST AND HOW TO STRENGTHEN THE 
USE OF THEM FOR SUPPORTABLE     
USE OF THEM FOR SUPPORTABLE     
HOUSING.                        
HOUSING.                        
ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE'RE   
ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE'RE   
LOOKING AT IS CREATING A        
LOOKING AT IS CREATING A        
STAND-ALONE PROVISION FOR       
STAND-ALONE PROVISION FOR       
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.             
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.             
SO WE'RE DEFINING AFFORDABLE    
SO WE'RE DEFINING AFFORDABLE    
HOUSING SO IT'S CLEAR TO        
HOUSING SO IT'S CLEAR TO        
EVERYONE.                       
EVERYONE.                       
WE'RE WORKING ON MATERIALS THAT 
WE'RE WORKING ON MATERIALS THAT 
WILL HELP THE PUBLIC TO         
WILL HELP THE PUBLIC TO         
UNDERSTAND HOW TO ACCESS THESE  
UNDERSTAND HOW TO ACCESS THESE  
DIFFERENT INCENTIVES.           
DIFFERENT INCENTIVES.           
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT  
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT  
THE INCENTIVES.                 
THE INCENTIVES.                 
SO WHEN WE ALLOW FOR DENSITY    
SO WHEN WE ALLOW FOR DENSITY    
BONUSES, MAKING SURE THAT WE PUT
BONUSES, MAKING SURE THAT WE PUT
RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROPERTY    
RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROPERTY    
THAT'S USING THOSE BONUSES SO   
THAT'S USING THOSE BONUSES SO   
THAT THOSE ADDITIONAL UNITS ARE 
THAT THOSE ADDITIONAL UNITS ARE 
MADE AFFORDABLE TO LOW AND      
MADE AFFORDABLE TO LOW AND      
MODERATE INCOME FAMILIES.       
MODERATE INCOME FAMILIES.       
THE SAME THING WITH THE REDUCING
THE SAME THING WITH THE REDUCING
THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.       
THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.       
AND THEN SOME NEW THINGS THAT   
AND THEN SOME NEW THINGS THAT   
WE'RE LOOKING AT AND THESE ARE  
WE'RE LOOKING AT AND THESE ARE  
RECOMMENDATIONS RIGHT NOW THAT  
RECOMMENDATIONS RIGHT NOW THAT  
WE'RE WORKING ON, BUT LOOKING AT
WE'RE WORKING ON, BUT LOOKING AT
ON INFILL PROPERTIES, WE DO     
ON INFILL PROPERTIES, WE DO     
SIDEWALKS THAT DON'T GO         
SIDEWALKS THAT DON'T GO         
ANYWHERE.                       
ANYWHERE.                       
AND PUTTING IN THOSE SIDEWALKS  
AND PUTTING IN THOSE SIDEWALKS  
CAN BE AN ADDITIONAL COST, AND  
CAN BE AN ADDITIONAL COST, AND  
IT ALSO ISN'T VERY ATTRACTIVE TO
IT ALSO ISN'T VERY ATTRACTIVE TO
THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THE OTHER 
THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THE OTHER 
SIDES OF THE PROPERTY DON'T HAVE
SIDES OF THE PROPERTY DON'T HAVE
SIDEWALKS.                      
SIDEWALKS.                      
SO JUST LOOKING AT THAT AS A    
SO JUST LOOKING AT THAT AS A    
WAIVER TO HELP REDUCE COSTS.    
WAIVER TO HELP REDUCE COSTS.    
ALSO LOOKING AT THE SETBACK     
ALSO LOOKING AT THE SETBACK     
REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE ON SOME OF 
REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE ON SOME OF 
THESE BLOCKS THERE'S MAYBE ONE  
THESE BLOCKS THERE'S MAYBE ONE  
OR TWO HOMES, AND YOU PUT THE   
OR TWO HOMES, AND YOU PUT THE   
INFILL AND DEPENDING ON THAT    
INFILL AND DEPENDING ON THAT    
SETBACK, IT DETERMINES THE SIZE 
SETBACK, IT DETERMINES THE SIZE 
OF THE HOUSE.                   
OF THE HOUSE.                   
AND SO JUST LOOKING AT HOW WE   
AND SO JUST LOOKING AT HOW WE   
CAN DO SOME MODIFICATIONS THERE.
CAN DO SOME MODIFICATIONS THERE.
AND THEN ONE OF THE BIG COSTS   
AND THEN ONE OF THE BIG COSTS   
THAT WE HEAR WHEN IT COMES TO   
THAT WE HEAR WHEN IT COMES TO   
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS THE COST  
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS THE COST  
OF TREES.                       
OF TREES.                       
WE HAVE THESE VACANT LOTS WHERE 
WE HAVE THESE VACANT LOTS WHERE 
TREES HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO GROW 
TREES HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO GROW 
UP OVER THE YEARS.              
UP OVER THE YEARS.              
AND WHEN YOU TAKE THEM OUT TO   
AND WHEN YOU TAKE THEM OUT TO   
BUILD THE HOMES, WE HAD ONE     
BUILD THE HOMES, WE HAD ONE     
PROJECT WHERE THE COST OF THE   
PROJECT WHERE THE COST OF THE   
TREES WAS OVER $50,000.         
TREES WAS OVER $50,000.         
WELL, THAT'S $50,000 IF THEY    
WELL, THAT'S $50,000 IF THEY    
DIDN'T PUT IT TOWARDS THE TREES 
DIDN'T PUT IT TOWARDS THE TREES 
WOULD MAKE THE HOME AFFORDABLE. 
WOULD MAKE THE HOME AFFORDABLE. 
SO JUST LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN   
SO JUST LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN   
GET CREATIVE WITH INCENTIVES    
GET CREATIVE WITH INCENTIVES    
THAT WE CAN USE TO HELP MAKE    
THAT WE CAN USE TO HELP MAKE    
AFFORDABLE HOUSING MORE         
AFFORDABLE HOUSING MORE         
FEASIBLE.                       
FEASIBLE.                       
THE COST HAS TO BE COVERED      
THE COST HAS TO BE COVERED      
SOMEHOW.                        
SOMEHOW.                        
AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF GRANT
AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF GRANT
DOLLARS TO DO THAT.             
DOLLARS TO DO THAT.             
AND THEN AS WE MOVE ON TO THE   
AND THEN AS WE MOVE ON TO THE   
NEXT PAGE, THESE ARE -- WE'VE   
NEXT PAGE, THESE ARE -- WE'VE   
BEEN LOOKING AT THE ZONING AND  
BEEN LOOKING AT THE ZONING AND  
SMALL LOTS, SO REAL ESTATE      
SMALL LOTS, SO REAL ESTATE      
PROVIDED US WITH A LIST OF      
PROVIDED US WITH A LIST OF      
ECONOMIC REMAINDER PROPERTIES,  
ECONOMIC REMAINDER PROPERTIES,  
WHICH ARE SMALL LOTS LEFT OVER  
WHICH ARE SMALL LOTS LEFT OVER  
FROM WHEN WE DID RIGHT-OF-WAY   
FROM WHEN WE DID RIGHT-OF-WAY   
ACQUISITION.                    
ACQUISITION.                    
AND THE PAGE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING
AND THE PAGE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING
AT NOW, ONE OF THEM IS A LARGE  
AT NOW, ONE OF THEM IS A LARGE  
PROPERTY THAT WE ACQUIRED, AND  
PROPERTY THAT WE ACQUIRED, AND  
WE'RE LOOKING TO DO A TINY HOME 
WE'RE LOOKING TO DO A TINY HOME 
VILLAGE.                        
VILLAGE.                        
THE REASON FOR DOING A TINY HOME
THE REASON FOR DOING A TINY HOME
VILLAGE ON THAT LOCATION IS     
VILLAGE ON THAT LOCATION IS     
BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES
BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES
ON THAT PROPERTY.               
ON THAT PROPERTY.               
REMOVING THOSE TREES WOULD BE   
REMOVING THOSE TREES WOULD BE   
COST-PROHIBITIVE.               
COST-PROHIBITIVE.               
IT'S ALSO A VERY BEAUTIFUL LOT  
IT'S ALSO A VERY BEAUTIFUL LOT  
WITH THE TREES.                 
WITH THE TREES.                 
WITH THE TINY HOMES, WE CAN DO A
WITH THE TINY HOMES, WE CAN DO A
MULTIFAMILY PROJECT WITH        
MULTIFAMILY PROJECT WITH        
MULTIPLE TINY HOMES THAT WOULD  
MULTIPLE TINY HOMES THAT WOULD  
BE AVAILABLE FOR RENTAL.        
BE AVAILABLE FOR RENTAL.        
AND THEN THE OTHER LOT THAT     
AND THEN THE OTHER LOT THAT     
YOU'RE LOOKING AT, THAT IS THE  
YOU'RE LOOKING AT, THAT IS THE  
ONE THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH    
ONE THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH    
CONNIE BURTON ON, AND THAT WOULD
CONNIE BURTON ON, AND THAT WOULD
BE THE PILOT CONTAINER HOME     
BE THE PILOT CONTAINER HOME     
PROPERTY.                       
PROPERTY.                       
YOU CAN SEE, AGAIN, THERE IS A  
YOU CAN SEE, AGAIN, THERE IS A  
BEAUTIFUL TREE AND BY BEING ABLE
BEAUTIFUL TREE AND BY BEING ABLE
TO USE THIS NONTRADITIONAL HOME,
TO USE THIS NONTRADITIONAL HOME,
IT ALLOWS US TO FIT IT ON THE   
IT ALLOWS US TO FIT IT ON THE   
LOT AND STILL MEET THE SETBACK  
LOT AND STILL MEET THE SETBACK  
REQUIREMENTS.                   
REQUIREMENTS.                   
>>CAROLE POST: NEXT SLIDE.      
>>CAROLE POST: NEXT SLIDE.      
WITH RESPECT TO THE LAND        
WITH RESPECT TO THE LAND        
DEVELOPMENT CODE AND CHANGES,   
DEVELOPMENT CODE AND CHANGES,   
THAT GIVES YOU A BIT OF A WINDOW
THAT GIVES YOU A BIT OF A WINDOW
INTO THOSE MATTERS THAT         
INTO THOSE MATTERS THAT         
CONCERNED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.   
CONCERNED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.   
BUT LDC REQUEST SURFACE -- TWO  
BUT LDC REQUEST SURFACE -- TWO  
OTHER ADVISORY REPORTS,         
OTHER ADVISORY REPORTS,         
TRANSPORTATION AND DEVELOPMENT  
TRANSPORTATION AND DEVELOPMENT  
SERVICES.                       
SERVICES.                       
AND AS SUCH, THEY JOINED A      
AND AS SUCH, THEY JOINED A      
NUMBER OF OTHER REQUESTS        
NUMBER OF OTHER REQUESTS        
CONCERNING UPDATING AND         
CONCERNING UPDATING AND         
REFRESHING OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT 
REFRESHING OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT 
CODE.                           
CODE.                           
I THINK I'VE SPOKEN WITH MOST   
I THINK I'VE SPOKEN WITH MOST   
ALL OF YOU NOW TO KNOW THAT WE  
ALL OF YOU NOW TO KNOW THAT WE  
HAVE PUT TOGETHER A PRETTY      
HAVE PUT TOGETHER A PRETTY      
COMPREHENSIVE EFFORT AT ALIGNING
COMPREHENSIVE EFFORT AT ALIGNING
ALL OF THE VARIOUS              
ALL OF THE VARIOUS              
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE       
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE       
SURFACED OVER THE PAST NOW      
SURFACED OVER THE PAST NOW      
ALMOST YEAR, AND ALIGNING THOSE 
ALMOST YEAR, AND ALIGNING THOSE 
TOGETHER WITH RECOMMENDATIONS   
TOGETHER WITH RECOMMENDATIONS   
THAT HAVE EXISTED FOR SOME TIME 
THAT HAVE EXISTED FOR SOME TIME 
BY STAFF, OTHERS THAT HAVE      
BY STAFF, OTHERS THAT HAVE      
SURFACED BY CITY COUNCIL OVER   
SURFACED BY CITY COUNCIL OVER   
THE RECENT PAST AND SOME FURTHER
THE RECENT PAST AND SOME FURTHER
BACK.                           
BACK.                           
AND WANTING TO APPROACH IT IN A 
AND WANTING TO APPROACH IT IN A 
COMPREHENSIVE WAY.              
COMPREHENSIVE WAY.              
SO WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY   
SO WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY   
WITH GINA GRIMES' OFFICE AND    
WITH GINA GRIMES' OFFICE AND    
OTHERS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE    
OTHERS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE    
TAKING A VERY PROCESS-ORIENTED  
TAKING A VERY PROCESS-ORIENTED  
APPROACH TO DO THIS SO THAT WE  
APPROACH TO DO THIS SO THAT WE  
ARE APPROACHING IT IN A         
ARE APPROACHING IT IN A         
HARMONIOUS WAY THAT WILL BE     
HARMONIOUS WAY THAT WILL BE     
COMPREHENSIVE.                  
COMPREHENSIVE.                  
I JUST MENTION THIS, WE'RE GOING
I JUST MENTION THIS, WE'RE GOING
TO TAKE A PHASED APPROACH.      
TO TAKE A PHASED APPROACH.      
THE IDEA IS OBVIOUSLY TO SORT OF
THE IDEA IS OBVIOUSLY TO SORT OF
START WITH SOME OF THE SIMPLE   
START WITH SOME OF THE SIMPLE   
THINGS THAT MAKES SENSE TO      
THINGS THAT MAKES SENSE TO      
EVERYONE.                       
EVERYONE.                       
WE KNOW THAT LDC MATTERS CAN BE 
WE KNOW THAT LDC MATTERS CAN BE 
VERY SENSITIVE AND CONTROVERSIAL
VERY SENSITIVE AND CONTROVERSIAL
AND SORT OF NO RIGHT ANSWER     
AND SORT OF NO RIGHT ANSWER     
OFTEN, BUT IN SOME CASES IT IS. 
OFTEN, BUT IN SOME CASES IT IS. 
LIKE WHEN, FOR EXAMPLE, A CODE  
LIKE WHEN, FOR EXAMPLE, A CODE  
SAYS YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING IN
SAYS YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING IN
A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DAYS, AND   
A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DAYS, AND   
SOMETIMES IT'S CALENDAR DAYS AND
SOMETIMES IT'S CALENDAR DAYS AND
SOMETIMES IT'S BUSINESS DAYS,   
SOMETIMES IT'S BUSINESS DAYS,   
AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS WE CAN 
AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS WE CAN 
UNIFY AND SIMPLIFY.             
UNIFY AND SIMPLIFY.             
NOT TO GET TOO INTO THE WEEDS ON
NOT TO GET TOO INTO THE WEEDS ON
THAT, BUT COMING IN THE FALL, WE
THAT, BUT COMING IN THE FALL, WE
GOT A BIT DELAYED BECAUSE OF    
GOT A BIT DELAYED BECAUSE OF    
COVID AND SOME OF THE COUNCIL   
COVID AND SOME OF THE COUNCIL   
MEETINGS, AS YOU ALL KNOW,      
MEETINGS, AS YOU ALL KNOW,      
GETTING SHIFTED.                
GETTING SHIFTED.                
BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE BACK IN   
BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE BACK IN   
THE FALL WITH WHAT WE'VE PUT    
THE FALL WITH WHAT WE'VE PUT    
TOGETHER AS PHASE ONE RELATIVELY
TOGETHER AS PHASE ONE RELATIVELY
MAINSTREAM, IF YOU WILL, A SET  
MAINSTREAM, IF YOU WILL, A SET  
OF RECOMMENDATIONS, ABOUT NINE  
OF RECOMMENDATIONS, ABOUT NINE  
OR TEN THAT WILL HELP TO        
OR TEN THAT WILL HELP TO        
SIMPLIFY AND UNIFY SOME OF THE  
SIMPLIFY AND UNIFY SOME OF THE  
CODE REFERENCES AND THEN SOME OF
CODE REFERENCES AND THEN SOME OF
WHAT VANESSA JUST REFERRED TO   
WHAT VANESSA JUST REFERRED TO   
AND OTHER MORE SUBSTANTIVE      
AND OTHER MORE SUBSTANTIVE      
CHANGES WILL COME FORWARD IN    
CHANGES WILL COME FORWARD IN    
FUTURE PHASES, ALL OF WHICH WILL
FUTURE PHASES, ALL OF WHICH WILL
BE DONE WITH A SUBSTANTIAL      
BE DONE WITH A SUBSTANTIAL      
AMOUNT OF PROCESS AND OUTREACH  
AMOUNT OF PROCESS AND OUTREACH  
TO ENABLE INPUT BEFORE WE GET TO
TO ENABLE INPUT BEFORE WE GET TO
FINAL RECOMMENDATION.           
FINAL RECOMMENDATION.           
NEXT SLIDE.                     
NEXT SLIDE.                     
ONE OTHER COMPONENT IS THAT NONE
ONE OTHER COMPONENT IS THAT NONE
OF THIS CAN HAPPEN IN A VACUUM. 
OF THIS CAN HAPPEN IN A VACUUM. 
AND CERTAINLY, THE CITY COUNCIL 
AND CERTAINLY, THE CITY COUNCIL 
IS OUR PRIMARY PARTNER IN       
IS OUR PRIMARY PARTNER IN       
DRIVING LDC CHANGES, BUT THERE  
DRIVING LDC CHANGES, BUT THERE  
ARE OTHER PARTNERS.             
ARE OTHER PARTNERS.             
WE'VE ALREADY BEGUN DISCUSSIONS 
WE'VE ALREADY BEGUN DISCUSSIONS 
WITH THE COUNTY, WITH THE       
WITH THE COUNTY, WITH THE       
PLANNING COMMISSION, MPO AND    
PLANNING COMMISSION, MPO AND    
OTHERS, AND THEN THAT'S RELATIVE
OTHERS, AND THEN THAT'S RELATIVE
TO ANY LDC CHANGES, BUT RELATIVE
TO ANY LDC CHANGES, BUT RELATIVE
TO THE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY    
TO THE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY    
CHANGES AND OUR PROGRESS AND    
CHANGES AND OUR PROGRESS AND    
STRATEGY, CERTAINLY AHAC IS     
STRATEGY, CERTAINLY AHAC IS     
ACTIVELY, VERY ACTIVELY         
ACTIVELY, VERY ACTIVELY         
INVOLVED.                       
INVOLVED.                       
AND THEN JUST TO REFERENCE THAT,
AND THEN JUST TO REFERENCE THAT,
THE CARES ACT AND SOME OF THE   
THE CARES ACT AND SOME OF THE   
CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING    
CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING    
RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF           
RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF           
HOMELESSNESS, EVICTION THREATS, 
HOMELESSNESS, EVICTION THREATS, 
ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE SOMEWHAT
ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE SOMEWHAT
SHAPING OUR STRATEGY.           
SHAPING OUR STRATEGY.           
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET US OFF
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET US OFF
COURSE.                         
COURSE.                         
OUR ESSENTIAL STRATEGY REMAINS  
OUR ESSENTIAL STRATEGY REMAINS  
INTACT, BUT IT GOES WITHOUT     
INTACT, BUT IT GOES WITHOUT     
SAYING THAT THAT HAS CREATED A  
SAYING THAT THAT HAS CREATED A  
NEW CHALLENGE FOR US, IN WHICH  
NEW CHALLENGE FOR US, IN WHICH  
CASE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'RE    
CASE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'RE    
DIVERTING MUCH OF OUR RESOURCES 
DIVERTING MUCH OF OUR RESOURCES 
AND TIME TO ENSURE THAT THOSE   
AND TIME TO ENSURE THAT THOSE   
IMMEDIATE AND EMERGENCY NEEDS   
IMMEDIATE AND EMERGENCY NEEDS   
ARE SHORED UP.                  
ARE SHORED UP.                  
NEXT SLIDE AND LAST CHAPTER IS  
NEXT SLIDE AND LAST CHAPTER IS  
AOUND COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND    
AOUND COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND    
ENGAGEMENT.                     
ENGAGEMENT.                     
NEXT SLIDE, VANESSA AND HER     
NEXT SLIDE, VANESSA AND HER     
TEAM, THEY ARE EXTRAORDINARY.   
TEAM, THEY ARE EXTRAORDINARY.   
THEY DO THE HEAVY LIFTING ON    
THEY DO THE HEAVY LIFTING ON    
THIS.                           
THIS.                           
I WILL LET HER CLOSE US OUT WITH
I WILL LET HER CLOSE US OUT WITH
SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE   
SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE   
IMPROVEMENTS BEING MADE TO      
IMPROVEMENTS BEING MADE TO      
INCREASE ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH
INCREASE ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH
TO OUR COMMUNITY AND SIMPLIFYING
TO OUR COMMUNITY AND SIMPLIFYING
WHAT IT TAKES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE 
WHAT IT TAKES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE 
OF SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS.        
OF SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS.        
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: SO ONE OF   
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: SO ONE OF   
THE THINGS WE KNOW IS THAT WE   
THE THINGS WE KNOW IS THAT WE   
HAVE A LOT OF GREAT PROGRAMS,   
HAVE A LOT OF GREAT PROGRAMS,   
BUT IF THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T    
BUT IF THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T    
KNOW ABOUT THEM IT DOESN'T      
KNOW ABOUT THEM IT DOESN'T      
REALLY MEAN ANYTHING.           
REALLY MEAN ANYTHING.           
SO WE HAVE BEEN EXPANDING OUR   
SO WE HAVE BEEN EXPANDING OUR   
OUTREACH.                       
OUTREACH.                       
YOU KNOW THAT WE WERE HAVING THE
YOU KNOW THAT WE WERE HAVING THE
COMMUNITY RESOURCE FAIRS, WHICH 
COMMUNITY RESOURCE FAIRS, WHICH 
WERE VERY POPULAR.              
WERE VERY POPULAR.              
UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAVE BEEN   
UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAVE BEEN   
CUT BECAUSE OF COVID.           
CUT BECAUSE OF COVID.           
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OUR    
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OUR    
ONLINE PRESENCE.                
ONLINE PRESENCE.                
WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO       
WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO       
UPGRADE OUR WEBSITE.            
UPGRADE OUR WEBSITE.            
WE ARE CREATING HOW-TO VIDEOS   
WE ARE CREATING HOW-TO VIDEOS   
THAT SHOW PEOPLE HOW TO ACTUALLY
THAT SHOW PEOPLE HOW TO ACTUALLY
GO THROUGH THE APPLICATION      
GO THROUGH THE APPLICATION      
PROCESS FOR OUR PROGRAMS.       
PROCESS FOR OUR PROGRAMS.       
WE'VE EXPANDED OUR OUTREACH TO  
WE'VE EXPANDED OUR OUTREACH TO  
THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY AND TO   
THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY AND TO   
OTHERS.                         
OTHERS.                         
WE'RE USING THE RADIO MORE.     
WE'RE USING THE RADIO MORE.     
WE'RE ALSO EXPANDING THE        
WE'RE ALSO EXPANDING THE        
PROGRAMS THAT THE HOUSING       
PROGRAMS THAT THE HOUSING       
COUNSELING AGENCY PROVIDE,      
COUNSELING AGENCY PROVIDE,      
MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE      
MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE      
DIFFERENT HOURS, DIFFERENT      
DIFFERENT HOURS, DIFFERENT      
METHODS, THAT THEY CAN BE       
METHODS, THAT THEY CAN BE       
REACHED SO THAT THEY CAN ASSIST 
REACHED SO THAT THEY CAN ASSIST 
FAMILIES.                       
FAMILIES.                       
AS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE  
AS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE  
RELIEF EFFORTS AND DOING THE    
RELIEF EFFORTS AND DOING THE    
RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND MORTGAGE  
RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND MORTGAGE  
ASSISTANCE, WE'VE USED THE      
ASSISTANCE, WE'VE USED THE      
HOUSING COUNSELING AGENCIES TO  
HOUSING COUNSELING AGENCIES TO  
NOT ONLY PROCESS THOSE          
NOT ONLY PROCESS THOSE          
APPLICATIONS, BUT THROUGH THAT, 
APPLICATIONS, BUT THROUGH THAT, 
THEY ARE MAKING CONNECTIONS WITH
THEY ARE MAKING CONNECTIONS WITH
FAMILIES TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR
FAMILIES TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR
FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT.           
FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT.           
NEXT SLIDE.                     
NEXT SLIDE.                     
SO WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT        
SO WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT        
RESTRUCTURING OUR DIVISION TO   
RESTRUCTURING OUR DIVISION TO   
MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MEET THE  
MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MEET THE  
COMMUNIY NEEDS.                 
COMMUNIY NEEDS.                 
LIKE I SAID, WE ARE REDESIGNING 
LIKE I SAID, WE ARE REDESIGNING 
THE WEBSITE, MAKING IT MORE USER
THE WEBSITE, MAKING IT MORE USER
FRIENDLY, ADDING MORE PICTURES  
FRIENDLY, ADDING MORE PICTURES  
AND DIAGRAMS AND VIDEOS.        
AND DIAGRAMS AND VIDEOS.        
WE ALSO STARTED CONNECTING WITH 
WE ALSO STARTED CONNECTING WITH 
THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.         
THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.         
WE HAD THE VIRTUAL CONTRACTOR   
WE HAD THE VIRTUAL CONTRACTOR   
EVENT WHERE WE WERE REACHING OUT
EVENT WHERE WE WERE REACHING OUT
TO CONSTRUCTION -- THE          
TO CONSTRUCTION -- THE          
CONSTRUCTION INDUSTY TO MAKE    
CONSTRUCTION INDUSTY TO MAKE    
THEM AWARE OF HOW THEY CAN GET  
THEM AWARE OF HOW THEY CAN GET  
INVOLVED WITH AFFORDABLE        
INVOLVED WITH AFFORDABLE        
HOUSING, THAT IT DIDN'T         
HOUSING, THAT IT DIDN'T         
NECESSARILY HAVE TO JUST BE     
NECESSARILY HAVE TO JUST BE     
STROKING A CHECK, BUT THEY COULD
STROKING A CHECK, BUT THEY COULD
LEND THEIR BUYING POWER.        
LEND THEIR BUYING POWER.        
THEY COULD ASSIST WITH PROVIDING
THEY COULD ASSIST WITH PROVIDING
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, LABOR, AND
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, LABOR, AND
ALSO WITH FUNDING.              
ALSO WITH FUNDING.              
SO THAT EVENT WAS REALLY        
SO THAT EVENT WAS REALLY        
SUCCESSFUL.                     
SUCCESSFUL.                     
WE HAD MORE PEOPLE SIGNING UP   
WE HAD MORE PEOPLE SIGNING UP   
FOR IT THAN WE HAD SPACE ON OUR 
FOR IT THAN WE HAD SPACE ON OUR 
ZOOM WINDOW, SO WE ARE LOOKING  
ZOOM WINDOW, SO WE ARE LOOKING  
TO DO THAT AGAIN.               
TO DO THAT AGAIN.               
WE'LL PROBABLY DO THOSE EVENTS  
WE'LL PROBABLY DO THOSE EVENTS  
QUARTERLY.                      
QUARTERLY.                      
AND THEN WE ARE JUST STARTING TO
AND THEN WE ARE JUST STARTING TO
INTRODUCE OUR BUSINESS AND      
INTRODUCE OUR BUSINESS AND      
COFFEE.                         
COFFEE.                         
THAT'S WHEN WE'RE GOING OUT TO  
THAT'S WHEN WE'RE GOING OUT TO  
THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY WITH OUR 
THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY WITH OUR 
HOUSING COUNSELING AGENCIES,    
HOUSING COUNSELING AGENCIES,    
TALKING TO THEM ABOUT HOW THERE 
TALKING TO THEM ABOUT HOW THERE 
ARE PROGRAMS THAT CAN HELP THEIR
ARE PROGRAMS THAT CAN HELP THEIR
EMPLOYEES.                      
EMPLOYEES.                      
AND THROUGH THIS, WE'RE HOPING  
AND THROUGH THIS, WE'RE HOPING  
THAT WE WILL ENGAGE THE BUSINESS
THAT WE WILL ENGAGE THE BUSINESS
COMMUNITY TO GET MORE INVOLVED  
COMMUNITY TO GET MORE INVOLVED  
IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.          
IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.          
NEXT SLIDE.                     
NEXT SLIDE.                     
WE ARE ALSO EXPANDING OUR --    
WE ARE ALSO EXPANDING OUR --    
NEXT -- EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS    
NEXT -- EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS    
BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT AS THESE
BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT AS THESE
PRICES ARE RISING, WE DON'T WANT
PRICES ARE RISING, WE DON'T WANT
TO LOSE ANY OF OUR LEGACY       
TO LOSE ANY OF OUR LEGACY       
RESIDENTS, AND WE WANT TO       
RESIDENTS, AND WE WANT TO       
MITIGATE GENTRIFICATION AND     
MITIGATE GENTRIFICATION AND     
DISPLACEMENT.                   
DISPLACEMENT.                   
SO WE HAVE PROGRAMS LIKE THE    
SO WE HAVE PROGRAMS LIKE THE    
COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND
COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND
THE STORMWATER HARDSHIP, BUT    
THE STORMWATER HARDSHIP, BUT    
WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE     
WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE     
PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE AND 
PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE AND 
TAX ASSESSOR TO PUT ON WORKSHOPS
TAX ASSESSOR TO PUT ON WORKSHOPS
TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT OUR     
TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT OUR     
HOMEOWNERS, DIFFERENT DISCOUNTS 
HOMEOWNERS, DIFFERENT DISCOUNTS 
THAT THEY CAN GET ON THEIR      
THAT THEY CAN GET ON THEIR      
PROPERTY TAXES.                 
PROPERTY TAXES.                 
WE HAVE A HUGE ISSUE WITH ESTATE
WE HAVE A HUGE ISSUE WITH ESTATE
PROPERTIES AND FOLKS NOT KNOWING
PROPERTIES AND FOLKS NOT KNOWING
HOW TO PROPERLY TRANSFER.       
HOW TO PROPERLY TRANSFER.       
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH STETSON   
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH STETSON   
UNIVERSITY TO DEVELOP SOME WILL 
UNIVERSITY TO DEVELOP SOME WILL 
AND ESTATE PLANNING CLASSES.    
AND ESTATE PLANNING CLASSES.    
OUR OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB        
OUR OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB        
PROGRAM, WE ADDED TO THAT SO    
PROGRAM, WE ADDED TO THAT SO    
THAT NOW IF A HOME IS BEYOND    
THAT NOW IF A HOME IS BEYOND    
WHAT CAN BE REPAIRED, WE        
WHAT CAN BE REPAIRED, WE        
ACTUALLY HAVE A REPLACEMENT     
ACTUALLY HAVE A REPLACEMENT     
HOUSING OPTION THAT WE WILL BE  
HOUSING OPTION THAT WE WILL BE  
ROLLING OUT HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH
ROLLING OUT HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH
WE WILL START ON THAT PROGRAM.  
WE WILL START ON THAT PROGRAM.  
AND THEN THROUGH OUR HUMAN      
AND THEN THROUGH OUR HUMAN      
RIGHTS OFFICE, WE'RE LOOKING TO 
RIGHTS OFFICE, WE'RE LOOKING TO 
UPDATE THE ORDINANCE ADDING     
UPDATE THE ORDINANCE ADDING     
INCOME AS A PROTECTED CLASS AND 
INCOME AS A PROTECTED CLASS AND 
CLARIFYING THE ENFORCEMENT      
CLARIFYING THE ENFORCEMENT      
PROCEDURES.                     
PROCEDURES.                     
NEXT SLIDE.                     
NEXT SLIDE.                     
SO WITH ALL OF THIS, AND LIKE I 
SO WITH ALL OF THIS, AND LIKE I 
SAID, WITH OUR WEBSITE, WE'RE   
SAID, WITH OUR WEBSITE, WE'RE   
LOOKING TO ADD GREATER          
LOOKING TO ADD GREATER          
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
SO WE WILL CREATE DASH BOARDS   
SO WE WILL CREATE DASH BOARDS   
THAT WILL SHOW WHAT FUNDING IS  
THAT WILL SHOW WHAT FUNDING IS  
AVAILABLE, HOW MANY APPLICATIONS
AVAILABLE, HOW MANY APPLICATIONS
HAVE BEEN PROCESSED, WHAT       
HAVE BEEN PROCESSED, WHAT       
AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS,    
AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS,    
BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE
BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE
HEAR IS THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW  
HEAR IS THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW  
WHERE THERE ARE UNITS AVAILABLE.
WHERE THERE ARE UNITS AVAILABLE.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS        
AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS        
AVAILABLE.                      
AVAILABLE.                      
THROUGH OUR WEBSITE, WE WILL    
THROUGH OUR WEBSITE, WE WILL    
HAVE NOT ONLY THE PROJECTS THAT 
HAVE NOT ONLY THE PROJECTS THAT 
ARE CURRENTLY UNDER             
ARE CURRENTLY UNDER             
CONSTRUCTION, BUT ONES THAT WE  
CONSTRUCTION, BUT ONES THAT WE  
KNOW ARE COMING AND WILL BE     
KNOW ARE COMING AND WILL BE     
HIGHLIGHTING THOSE ON THE       
HIGHLIGHTING THOSE ON THE       
WEBSITE.                        
WEBSITE.                        
>>CAROLE POST: I THINK THAT'S   
>>CAROLE POST: I THINK THAT'S   
IT.                             
IT.                             
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
AND THANK YOU, VANESSA.         
AND THANK YOU, VANESSA.         
SHE DOES AN INCREDIBLE JOB.     
SHE DOES AN INCREDIBLE JOB.     
I APPRECIATE YOU INDULGING US   
I APPRECIATE YOU INDULGING US   
FOR A BIT OF A MORE LENGTHY     
FOR A BIT OF A MORE LENGTHY     
CONVERSATION, BUT HOPEFULLY IT  
CONVERSATION, BUT HOPEFULLY IT  
COVERED A LOT OF GROUND.        
COVERED A LOT OF GROUND.        
SO WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY      
SO WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY      
QUESTIONS.                      
QUESTIONS.                      
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MIRANDA.     
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MIRANDA.     
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN  
MIRANDA.                        
MIRANDA.                        
DID I HEAR COUNCILMAN CITRO OR  
DID I HEAR COUNCILMAN CITRO OR  
DINGFELDER AS WELL?             
DINGFELDER AS WELL?             
>>JOSEPH CITRO: CITRO.          
>>JOSEPH CITRO: CITRO.          
>>ORLANDO GUDES: GUDES.         
>>ORLANDO GUDES: GUDES.         
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL GO    
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL GO    
MIRANDA, CITRO, DINGFELDER, AND 
MIRANDA, CITRO, DINGFELDER, AND 
THEN GUDES.                     
THEN GUDES.                     
I'M TRYING TO GO DOWN THE LINE  
I'M TRYING TO GO DOWN THE LINE  
IN MY MIND.                     
IN MY MIND.                     
GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.   
GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.   
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU    
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU    
VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.        
VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.        
APPRECIATE IT.                  
APPRECIATE IT.                  
THANK YOU BOTH TO VANESSA AND   
THANK YOU BOTH TO VANESSA AND   
CAROLE FOR AN IN-DEPTH REPORT.  
CAROLE FOR AN IN-DEPTH REPORT.  
THERE ARE SO MANY SLIDES IT'S   
THERE ARE SO MANY SLIDES IT'S   
ALMOST NOT FAIR TO COMMENT      
ALMOST NOT FAIR TO COMMENT      
BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF WORK      
BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF WORK      
YOU-ALL HAVE DONE IS            
YOU-ALL HAVE DONE IS            
UNBELIEVABLE.                   
UNBELIEVABLE.                   
HOWEVER, I'M LOOKING AT ONE PART
HOWEVER, I'M LOOKING AT ONE PART
OF IT AND THE REVIEW INFILL     
OF IT AND THE REVIEW INFILL     
AGREEMENT.                      
AGREEMENT.                      
I'M LOOKING AT THE COST OF      
I'M LOOKING AT THE COST OF      
HOUSING, IN 2014 TO 2017, OVER A
HOUSING, IN 2014 TO 2017, OVER A
FOUR-YEAR PERIOD, AS I LOOK AT  
FOUR-YEAR PERIOD, AS I LOOK AT  
THE NEHEMIAH PROJECT PHASE ONE, 
THE NEHEMIAH PROJECT PHASE ONE, 
THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE WAS     
THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE WAS     
90,000.                         
90,000.                         
IN 2015, BEACON HOMES THE       
IN 2015, BEACON HOMES THE       
AVERAGE SALE PRICE 165.         
AVERAGE SALE PRICE 165.         
>>CAROLE POST: COUNCILMAN       
>>CAROLE POST: COUNCILMAN       
MIRANDA, PARDON THE             
MIRANDA, PARDON THE             
INTERRUPTION, BUT WE HAVEN'T    
INTERRUPTION, BUT WE HAVEN'T    
GIVEN THAT PRESENTATION YET.    
GIVEN THAT PRESENTATION YET.    
THAT'S THE NEXT PRESENTATION.   
THAT'S THE NEXT PRESENTATION.   
IF YOU COULD RESERVE YOUR       
IF YOU COULD RESERVE YOUR       
INQUIRY, WE CERTAINLY COULD     
INQUIRY, WE CERTAINLY COULD     
COVER THAT.                     
COVER THAT.                     
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL GO TO   
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL GO TO   
THE OTHER ONE.                  
THE OTHER ONE.                  
I APOLOGIZE.                    
I APOLOGIZE.                    
LIKE I SAID, THERE WERE SO MANY.
LIKE I SAID, THERE WERE SO MANY.
YOU'VE DONE FIVE YEARS' WORK IN 
YOU'VE DONE FIVE YEARS' WORK IN 
A COUPLE OF MONTHS.             
A COUPLE OF MONTHS.             
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE CONCEPT 
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE CONCEPT 
-- MAYBE I WAS INCORRECT, WOULD 
-- MAYBE I WAS INCORRECT, WOULD 
BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR       
BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR       
SOMEONE TO BUY.                 
SOMEONE TO BUY.                 
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS   
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS   
THAT YOU'VE DONE.               
THAT YOU'VE DONE.               
LOOKING AT PAGE 9 OF THE Q & A, 
LOOKING AT PAGE 9 OF THE Q & A, 
WE'RE LOOKING AT CERTAINLY THE  
WE'RE LOOKING AT CERTAINLY THE  
CITY HAD A SUPPORTIVE ROLE.     
CITY HAD A SUPPORTIVE ROLE.     
WHAT THE TAMPA HOUSING DID --   
WHAT THE TAMPA HOUSING DID --   
[AUDIO BREAKS UP] -- AND MAIN   
[AUDIO BREAKS UP] -- AND MAIN   
AREA, MAIN STREET.              
AREA, MAIN STREET.              
AND THOSE WERE, I BELIEVE, 740  
AND THOSE WERE, I BELIEVE, 740  
RENTAL UNITS, WHICH IS GREAT,   
RENTAL UNITS, WHICH IS GREAT,   
AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE   
AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE   
CITY BEING PARTNERS WITH TAMPA  
CITY BEING PARTNERS WITH TAMPA  
HOUSING AUTHORITY.              
HOUSING AUTHORITY.              
I'M LOOKING THEN AT THE SAME    
I'M LOOKING THEN AT THE SAME    
PAGE ON THE SINGLE-FAMILY       
PAGE ON THE SINGLE-FAMILY       
PROJECTS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA   
PROJECTS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA   
AND DIFFERENT, ONE, TWO, THREE, 
AND DIFFERENT, ONE, TWO, THREE, 
FOUR, FIVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF   
FOUR, FIVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF   
INFILL PROJECTS THAT WE GOT     
INFILL PROJECTS THAT WE GOT     
INVOLVED IN, TOTALED 136 UNITS. 
INVOLVED IN, TOTALED 136 UNITS. 
AND I'M A LITTLE -- NOT AT ALL  
AND I'M A LITTLE -- NOT AT ALL  
DISTURBED.                      
DISTURBED.                      
I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT THE 
I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT THE 
PREPONDERANCE OF THIS ONE       
PREPONDERANCE OF THIS ONE       
ANYWAY, IT'S ALMOST FIVE AND A  
ANYWAY, IT'S ALMOST FIVE AND A  
HALF TO ONE RENTAL VERSUS       
HALF TO ONE RENTAL VERSUS       
HOUSING UNITS.                  
HOUSING UNITS.                  
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I     
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I     
REMEMBER WHEN CAMPAIGNING, MOST 
REMEMBER WHEN CAMPAIGNING, MOST 
OF THE QUESTIONS ASKED ON THE   
OF THE QUESTIONS ASKED ON THE   
CAMPAIGN TRAIL REGARDING        
CAMPAIGN TRAIL REGARDING        
AFFORDABLE HOUSING WAS HOUSING  
AFFORDABLE HOUSING WAS HOUSING  
THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BUY.    
THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BUY.    
AND THAT'S WHERE I'M LEADING    
AND THAT'S WHERE I'M LEADING    
INTO.                           
INTO.                           
YOU ALL MENTIONED THE TINY      
YOU ALL MENTIONED THE TINY      
HOMES, BECAUSE OF TREES AND     
HOMES, BECAUSE OF TREES AND     
OTHER THINGS, ARE CERTAINLY     
OTHER THINGS, ARE CERTAINLY     
CONDUCIVE TO THAT ONE BLOCK OR  
CONDUCIVE TO THAT ONE BLOCK OR  
WHATEVER AMOUNT OF LAND IT IS.  
WHATEVER AMOUNT OF LAND IT IS.  
THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS,    
THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS,    
WHAT IS THE COST PER SQUARE     
WHAT IS THE COST PER SQUARE     
FOOT, A METAL TINY HOME BEING   
FOOT, A METAL TINY HOME BEING   
PUT OR REGULAR HOME OR SMALL    
PUT OR REGULAR HOME OR SMALL    
HOME BEING BUILT WITH THE       
HOME BEING BUILT WITH THE       
CONVENTIONAL METHOD OF BLOCKS   
CONVENTIONAL METHOD OF BLOCKS   
AND WOOD.                       
AND WOOD.                       
AND THESE ARE THE THINGS I LIKE 
AND THESE ARE THE THINGS I LIKE 
TO SEE IN THE FUTURE, WHAT THE  
TO SEE IN THE FUTURE, WHAT THE  
COSTS ARE PER SQUARE FOOT.      
COSTS ARE PER SQUARE FOOT.      
WHEN YOU GO TO THE GROCERY      
WHEN YOU GO TO THE GROCERY      
STORE, ANYWAY I DO, I DON'T BUY 
STORE, ANYWAY I DO, I DON'T BUY 
BY THE PRICE.                   
BY THE PRICE.                   
I BUY BY THE OUNCE, WHICH TELLS 
I BUY BY THE OUNCE, WHICH TELLS 
YOU THE AMOUNT OF PRICE, WHICH  
YOU THE AMOUNT OF PRICE, WHICH  
GIVES YOU THE BEST VALUE FOR    
GIVES YOU THE BEST VALUE FOR    
YOUR DOLLAR.                    
YOUR DOLLAR.                    
I IMAGINE YOU'RE DOING THE SAME 
I IMAGINE YOU'RE DOING THE SAME 
THING IN THIS AREA HERE.        
THING IN THIS AREA HERE.        
SO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS WHAT'S 
SO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS WHAT'S 
THE COST INVOLVED.              
THE COST INVOLVED.              
I'LL HOLD MY OTHER REFERENCES TO
I'LL HOLD MY OTHER REFERENCES TO
WHEN WE GET TO THE WORK THAT    
WHEN WE GET TO THE WORK THAT    
WE'VE DONE AND WORK THAT WE'RE  
WE'VE DONE AND WORK THAT WE'RE  
LOOKING FORWARD TO DO IN BUYING 
LOOKING FORWARD TO DO IN BUYING 
OF THE HOME AND WHAT THE LAND   
OF THE HOME AND WHAT THE LAND   
COST AND WHAT THE HOME IS, AND  
COST AND WHAT THE HOME IS, AND  
WHAT IS AFFORDABLE AND WHAT IS  
WHAT IS AFFORDABLE AND WHAT IS  
NOT.                            
NOT.                            
THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I HAVE  
THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I HAVE  
THAT I'M ASKING MYSELF.         
THAT I'M ASKING MYSELF.         
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: IN TERMS OF 
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: IN TERMS OF 
-- COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES AND 
-- COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES AND 
ORANGES TO ORANGES.             
ORANGES TO ORANGES.             
SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE   
SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE   
PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT, IT'S NOT 
PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT, IT'S NOT 
REALLY THE BEST WAY TO BUY A    
REALLY THE BEST WAY TO BUY A    
HOME BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT A   
HOME BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT A   
TINY HOME, THE PRICE PER SQUARE 
TINY HOME, THE PRICE PER SQUARE 
FOOT TENDS TO BE A LOT HIGHER   
FOOT TENDS TO BE A LOT HIGHER   
THAN A FULL SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. 
THAN A FULL SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. 
AND PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO BUY      
AND PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO BUY      
ACCORDING TO THE PRICE, MORE SO 
ACCORDING TO THE PRICE, MORE SO 
ACCORDING TO THEIR MORTGAGE     
ACCORDING TO THEIR MORTGAGE     
PAYMENT.                        
PAYMENT.                        
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PRICES  
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PRICES  
SHOWING YOU ON THAT ONE SLIDE --
SHOWING YOU ON THAT ONE SLIDE --
AND WE'LL GET BACK TO IT --     
AND WE'LL GET BACK TO IT --     
THERE'S USUALLY SOME SORT OF    
THERE'S USUALLY SOME SORT OF    
SUBSIDY.                        
SUBSIDY.                        
SO THERE'S DOWN PAYMENT         
SO THERE'S DOWN PAYMENT         
ASSISTANCE OR SOMETHING ELSE    
ASSISTANCE OR SOMETHING ELSE    
THAT MAKES THAT HOME AFFORDABLE 
THAT MAKES THAT HOME AFFORDABLE 
WHILE MAKING SURE THAT THE      
WHILE MAKING SURE THAT THE      
PROPERTY VALUES WITHIN THE AREA 
PROPERTY VALUES WITHIN THE AREA 
STAY WHERE THEY SHOULD SO WE'RE 
STAY WHERE THEY SHOULD SO WE'RE 
NOT DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTING
NOT DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTING
COMMUNITIES.                    
COMMUNITIES.                    
THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WORD.      
THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WORD.      
AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER 
AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER 
OF HOMES, IN TERMS OF           
OF HOMES, IN TERMS OF           
SINGLE-FAMILY, THOSE ARE THE    
SINGLE-FAMILY, THOSE ARE THE    
ONES WHERE WE HAVE FUNDING IN   
ONES WHERE WE HAVE FUNDING IN   
THOSE PROJECTS.                 
THOSE PROJECTS.                 
THERE ARE STILL QUITE A FEW     
THERE ARE STILL QUITE A FEW     
AFFORDABLE HOMES THAT WERE SOLD 
AFFORDABLE HOMES THAT WERE SOLD 
WHERE WE PROVIDED DOWN PAYMENT  
WHERE WE PROVIDED DOWN PAYMENT  
ASSISTANCE.                     
ASSISTANCE.                     
THIS IS WHERE WE WERE ACTUALLY  
THIS IS WHERE WE WERE ACTUALLY  
SUPPORTING THE CONSTRUCTION.    
SUPPORTING THE CONSTRUCTION.    
WE DO A LOT IN TERMS OF         
WE DO A LOT IN TERMS OF         
SUPPORTING THE PURCHASE OF HOMES
SUPPORTING THE PURCHASE OF HOMES
AS WELL THAT'S NOT COUNTED HERE.
AS WELL THAT'S NOT COUNTED HERE.
BUT I COULD BRING THAT BACK AT  
BUT I COULD BRING THAT BACK AT  
ANOTHER TIME.                   
ANOTHER TIME.                   
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND 
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND 
THAT PART.                      
THAT PART.                      
THEN SQUARE FOOTAGE DOESN'T MEAN
THEN SQUARE FOOTAGE DOESN'T MEAN
ANYTHING BY THE PRICE OF THE    
ANYTHING BY THE PRICE OF THE    
VALUE OF THE HOUSE.             
VALUE OF THE HOUSE.             
NOT ON A SQUARE FOOT, BUT ON THE
NOT ON A SQUARE FOOT, BUT ON THE
VALUE OF THE HOUSE?             
VALUE OF THE HOUSE?             
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: IT DOES, BUT
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: IT DOES, BUT
THE PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT ALSO  
THE PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT ALSO  
TAKES INTO ACCOUNT AMENITIES.   
TAKES INTO ACCOUNT AMENITIES.   
SO SOMEONE WANTS GRANITE COUNTER
SO SOMEONE WANTS GRANITE COUNTER
TOPS AND THEY WANT FANCY        
TOPS AND THEY WANT FANCY        
FIXTURES AND THOSE KIND OF      
FIXTURES AND THOSE KIND OF      
THINGS.                         
THINGS.                         
IT'S REALLY WHAT CAN SOMEONE    
IT'S REALLY WHAT CAN SOMEONE    
AFFORD AND WHAT DOES SOMEONE    
AFFORD AND WHAT DOES SOMEONE    
WANT TO BUY.                    
WANT TO BUY.                    
ARE YOU INTERESTED IN A TINY    
ARE YOU INTERESTED IN A TINY    
HOME?                           
HOME?                           
THEN THAT WOULD BE WHAT YOU BUY.
THEN THAT WOULD BE WHAT YOU BUY.
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE     
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE     
SINGLE-FAMILY THAT HAS SOME OF  
SINGLE-FAMILY THAT HAS SOME OF  
THESE DIFFERENT AMENITIES,      
THESE DIFFERENT AMENITIES,      
PEOPLE ARE BUYING ON WHAT THEY  
PEOPLE ARE BUYING ON WHAT THEY  
NEED AS WELL AS THE PRICE PER   
NEED AS WELL AS THE PRICE PER   
SQUARE FOOT.                    
SQUARE FOOT.                    
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND.
I IMAGINE SOMEONE MARRIED,      
I IMAGINE SOMEONE MARRIED,      
THREE, FOUR KIDS IS NOT GOING TO
THREE, FOUR KIDS IS NOT GOING TO
BUY A ONE-BEDROOM HOUSE.        
BUY A ONE-BEDROOM HOUSE.        
I UNDERSTAND THAT.              
I UNDERSTAND THAT.              
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ALLUDING TO, 
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ALLUDING TO, 
SOMEBODY WITH NO KIDS DOESN'T   
SOMEBODY WITH NO KIDS DOESN'T   
WANT A SIX BEDROOM HOUSE.       
WANT A SIX BEDROOM HOUSE.       
I UNDERSTAND THAT.              
I UNDERSTAND THAT.              
BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE PRICE PER
BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE PRICE PER
SQUARE FOOT BASED ON THE VALUE  
SQUARE FOOT BASED ON THE VALUE  
OF THE NEED OF THE PERSON WHO IS
OF THE NEED OF THE PERSON WHO IS
MAKING THE APPLICATION TO BUY A 
MAKING THE APPLICATION TO BUY A 
HOME.                           
HOME.                           
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: I THINK THIS
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: I THINK THIS
IS GOING TO BE A MUCH LONGER    
IS GOING TO BE A MUCH LONGER    
DISCUSSION.                     
DISCUSSION.                     
SO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO COME BY  
SO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO COME BY  
AND WE CAN GO INTO SOME MORE    
AND WE CAN GO INTO SOME MORE    
DETAIL.                         
DETAIL.                         
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL RIGHT.   
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL RIGHT.   
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
NEXT UP, WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER 
NEXT UP, WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER 
CITRO, THEN DINGFELDER, GUDES   
CITRO, THEN DINGFELDER, GUDES   
AND WHOMEVER WISHES TO SPEAK.   
AND WHOMEVER WISHES TO SPEAK.   
>>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY  
>>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY  
MUCH, MR. CHAIR.                
MUCH, MR. CHAIR.                
MS. POST, I CONGRATULATE YOU AND
MS. POST, I CONGRATULATE YOU AND
YOUR TEAM ON THIS REPORT.       
YOUR TEAM ON THIS REPORT.       
YOU'VE DONE VERY WELL.          
YOU'VE DONE VERY WELL.          
JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND   
JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND   
THEN TWO QUESTIONS.             
THEN TWO QUESTIONS.             
I'M GLAD THAT YOU HAVE          
I'M GLAD THAT YOU HAVE          
RECOGNIZED THAT WE NEED TO      
RECOGNIZED THAT WE NEED TO      
CHANGE OUR ZONING, ESPECIALLY   
CHANGE OUR ZONING, ESPECIALLY   
FOR THE SMALLER HOMES WHERE     
FOR THE SMALLER HOMES WHERE     
WE'RE SEEING THAT WE CAN GET TWO
WE'RE SEEING THAT WE CAN GET TWO
SMALLER HOMES ON ONE LOT, UNLESS
SMALLER HOMES ON ONE LOT, UNLESS
WE TACKLE OUR ZONING ISSUES NOW 
WE TACKLE OUR ZONING ISSUES NOW 
AND BE PREPARED FOR WHEN THESE  
AND BE PREPARED FOR WHEN THESE  
HOMES BECOME AVAILABLE, WE MIGHT
HOMES BECOME AVAILABLE, WE MIGHT
BE JUST SPINNING OUR WHEELS.    
BE JUST SPINNING OUR WHEELS.    
THANK YOU FOR THAT.             
THANK YOU FOR THAT.             
I'M ALSO HOPING THAT WE'RE GOING
I'M ALSO HOPING THAT WE'RE GOING
TO BE ABLE TO GET NOT ONLY      
TO BE ABLE TO GET NOT ONLY      
AFFORDABLE BUT MORE WORKFORCE   
AFFORDABLE BUT MORE WORKFORCE   
HOUSING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE    
HOUSING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE    
URBAN CORE.                     
URBAN CORE.                     
I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR    
I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR    
BRINGING UP THE PARKING.        
BRINGING UP THE PARKING.        
I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SEVERAL  
I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SEVERAL  
PEOPLE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA,    
PEOPLE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA,    
ESPECIALLY WITH DOWNTOWN        
ESPECIALLY WITH DOWNTOWN        
PARTNERSHIP AND OTHER PEOPLE,   
PARTNERSHIP AND OTHER PEOPLE,   
HOPING THAT WE CAN CHANGE OUR   
HOPING THAT WE CAN CHANGE OUR   
PARKING MINIMUMS.               
PARKING MINIMUMS.               
MAYBE WE CAN MOVE THAT FURTHER  
MAYBE WE CAN MOVE THAT FURTHER  
OUT INTO THE CITY AS WE         
OUT INTO THE CITY AS WE         
PROGRESS.                       
PROGRESS.                       
A COUPLE OF THINGS, QUESTIONS.  
A COUPLE OF THINGS, QUESTIONS.  
ARE YOU GOING TO BE MAKING      
ARE YOU GOING TO BE MAKING      
MANDATORY -- I NOTICED WE WERE  
MANDATORY -- I NOTICED WE WERE  
TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE.       
TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE.       
WE ARE REALIZING NOW THAT       
WE ARE REALIZING NOW THAT       
UTILITY PAYMENTS ARE A LARGE    
UTILITY PAYMENTS ARE A LARGE    
COST TO HOME OWNERSHIP, IF WE   
COST TO HOME OWNERSHIP, IF WE   
CAN MAKE SURE WE PUT SOLAR ON   
CAN MAKE SURE WE PUT SOLAR ON   
THESE NEW HOMES, TANKLESS WATER 
THESE NEW HOMES, TANKLESS WATER 
HEATERS AND THOSE TYPE OF       
HEATERS AND THOSE TYPE OF       
THINGS, I HOPE WE MAKE THOSE    
THINGS, I HOPE WE MAKE THOSE    
MANDATORY TO THE BUILDERS FOR   
MANDATORY TO THE BUILDERS FOR   
THESE THINGS.                   
THESE THINGS.                   
MY NEXT QUESTION, I'LL TRY AND  
MY NEXT QUESTION, I'LL TRY AND  
LUMP -- MY NEXT QUESTION IS,    
LUMP -- MY NEXT QUESTION IS,    
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 10,000 UNITS
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 10,000 UNITS
PROPOSED BY 2027.               
PROPOSED BY 2027.               
BUT WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE   
BUT WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE   
MOVING INTO THE CITY OF TAMPA,  
MOVING INTO THE CITY OF TAMPA,  
WILL THAT BE ENOUGH BY 2027?    
WILL THAT BE ENOUGH BY 2027?    
OKAY.                           
OKAY.                           
I'LL GO WITH THOSE TWO.         
I'LL GO WITH THOSE TWO.         
THANK YOU, MS. POST.            
THANK YOU, MS. POST.            
>>CAROLE POST: THANK YOU FOR THE
>>CAROLE POST: THANK YOU FOR THE
QUESTIONS.                      
QUESTIONS.                      
I CAN GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF QUICK
I CAN GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF QUICK
RESPONSES.                      
RESPONSES.                      
AND AS WITH ANY OF THESE, HAPPY 
AND AS WITH ANY OF THESE, HAPPY 
TO DISCUSS IN MORE DETAIL AS    
TO DISCUSS IN MORE DETAIL AS    
NEEDED.                         
NEEDED.                         
YOU RAISE A VERY GOOD POINT     
YOU RAISE A VERY GOOD POINT     
AROUND WORKFORCE HOUSING VERSUS 
AROUND WORKFORCE HOUSING VERSUS 
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND I SHOULD
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND I SHOULD
DEFINITELY EMPHASIZE THAT THE   
DEFINITELY EMPHASIZE THAT THE   
ADVISORY TEAM FOCUSED ON THAT   
ADVISORY TEAM FOCUSED ON THAT   
AND ACTUALLY HAD REALLY A GREAT 
AND ACTUALLY HAD REALLY A GREAT 
DEAL OF DIALOGUE ABOUT IT.      
DEAL OF DIALOGUE ABOUT IT.      
THEIR INTENTION, AND IT IS SET  
THEIR INTENTION, AND IT IS SET  
FORTH IN THE PREAMBLE OF THE    
FORTH IN THE PREAMBLE OF THE    
REPORT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A 
REPORT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A 
TERM OF ART.                    
TERM OF ART.                    
AND IT'S DEFINED BY HUD AND     
AND IT'S DEFINED BY HUD AND     
OTHERS IN A HIGH DEGREE OF      
OTHERS IN A HIGH DEGREE OF      
SPECIFICITY.                    
SPECIFICITY.                    
WHAT OUR INTENTIONS WERE WERE TO
WHAT OUR INTENTIONS WERE WERE TO
FOCUS ON HOUSING AFFORDABILITY. 
FOCUS ON HOUSING AFFORDABILITY. 
AND NOT NECESSARILY JUST THE    
AND NOT NECESSARILY JUST THE    
DEFINED TERM OF AFFORDABLE      
DEFINED TERM OF AFFORDABLE      
HOUSING, BUT TO ENSURE THAT     
HOUSING, BUT TO ENSURE THAT     
THERE IS HOUSING AFFORDABILITY  
THERE IS HOUSING AFFORDABILITY  
ACROSS THE ENTIRE SPECTRUM      
ACROSS THE ENTIRE SPECTRUM      
DEPENDING ON WHAT A PERSON OR A 
DEPENDING ON WHAT A PERSON OR A 
FAMILY'S AFFORDABILITY IS.      
FAMILY'S AFFORDABILITY IS.      
SO WE REALLY DID FOCUS A LOT ON 
SO WE REALLY DID FOCUS A LOT ON 
WORKFORCE HOUSING AND OTHER     
WORKFORCE HOUSING AND OTHER     
TERMS THAT ARE COMMONLY USED,   
TERMS THAT ARE COMMONLY USED,   
BUT THE NATURE OF THIS REPORT   
BUT THE NATURE OF THIS REPORT   
AND WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO 
AND WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO 
DRIVE IS A WIDE SPECTRUM OF     
DRIVE IS A WIDE SPECTRUM OF     
AFFORDABILITY.                  
AFFORDABILITY.                  
SO I APPRECIATE YOU RECOGNIZING 
SO I APPRECIATE YOU RECOGNIZING 
THAT.                           
THAT.                           
AND ON UTILITY PAYMENTS, AGAIN, 
AND ON UTILITY PAYMENTS, AGAIN, 
EXCELLENT POINT TO RAISE.       
EXCELLENT POINT TO RAISE.       
AS I MENTIONED AT THE           
AS I MENTIONED AT THE           
INTRODUCTION, SO MANY ASPECTS OF
INTRODUCTION, SO MANY ASPECTS OF
OUR CITY TEAM ARE INVOLVED IN   
OUR CITY TEAM ARE INVOLVED IN   
DRIVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.     
DRIVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.     
OUR SUSTAINABILITY AND          
OUR SUSTAINABILITY AND          
RESILIENCE ADDITION HAS BROUGHT 
RESILIENCE ADDITION HAS BROUGHT 
SOME GREAT REFLECTION HERE      
SOME GREAT REFLECTION HERE      
AROUND HOW THE INFRASTRUCTURE   
AROUND HOW THE INFRASTRUCTURE   
NEEDS OF A HOME DRIVE THE COST  
NEEDS OF A HOME DRIVE THE COST  
UP, AND WE'VE BEGUN TO EXPLORE  
UP, AND WE'VE BEGUN TO EXPLORE  
THAT IN TERMS OF HOW UTILITY    
THAT IN TERMS OF HOW UTILITY    
COSTS, STORMWATER COSTS,        
COSTS, STORMWATER COSTS,        
CONNECTION FOR WATER AND        
CONNECTION FOR WATER AND        
WASTEWATER, ALL OF THESE THAT   
WASTEWATER, ALL OF THESE THAT   
DRIVE COSTS CAN BE ADDRESSED IN 
DRIVE COSTS CAN BE ADDRESSED IN 
SOME WAY.                       
SOME WAY.                       
SO IT'S REALLY GREAT TO HAVE    
SO IT'S REALLY GREAT TO HAVE    
THAT BE PART OF THE DYNAMIC.    
THAT BE PART OF THE DYNAMIC.    
AND THEN FINALLY, IS AROUND     
AND THEN FINALLY, IS AROUND     
WHETHER 10,000 HOMES BY 2027 OR 
WHETHER 10,000 HOMES BY 2027 OR 
UNITS BY 2027 IS ENOUGH.        
UNITS BY 2027 IS ENOUGH.        
I WOULD BET THAT THE ANSWER IS  
I WOULD BET THAT THE ANSWER IS  
NO, THAT THAT IS NOT GOING TO   
NO, THAT THAT IS NOT GOING TO   
FULLY AND COMPLETELY MEET THE   
FULLY AND COMPLETELY MEET THE   
DEMANDS OF OUR GROWING          
DEMANDS OF OUR GROWING          
COMMUNITY.                      
COMMUNITY.                      
I THINK IT WILL HELP MAKE AN    
I THINK IT WILL HELP MAKE AN    
AGGRESSIVE DENT IN THE DEMAND   
AGGRESSIVE DENT IN THE DEMAND   
AND TO DO IT RAPIDLY.           
AND TO DO IT RAPIDLY.           
AGAIN, MANY OF OUR PROGRAMS ARE 
AGAIN, MANY OF OUR PROGRAMS ARE 
ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD   
ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD   
SUCCESS, BUT IT'S BEEN A SLOW --
SUCCESS, BUT IT'S BEEN A SLOW --
IT'S BEEN A SLOW TRAIN.         
IT'S BEEN A SLOW TRAIN.         
AND WE REALLY WANT TO AMP THIS  
AND WE REALLY WANT TO AMP THIS  
UP.                             
UP.                             
WE NEED TO PUT SOME OF OUR      
WE NEED TO PUT SOME OF OUR      
PROGRAMS ON STEROIDS TO         
PROGRAMS ON STEROIDS TO         
ACCELERATE.                     
ACCELERATE.                     
SO WILL THAT ULTIMATELY SOLVE   
SO WILL THAT ULTIMATELY SOLVE   
ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS?            
ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS?            
I DON'T THINK SO.               
I DON'T THINK SO.               
BUT I THINK IT WILL -- I THINK  
BUT I THINK IT WILL -- I THINK  
IT WILL HELP DRIVE PROGRESS.    
IT WILL HELP DRIVE PROGRESS.    
AS I SAID AT THE OUTSET, I THINK
AS I SAID AT THE OUTSET, I THINK
THIS IS NOT JUST A PROBLEM FOR  
THIS IS NOT JUST A PROBLEM FOR  
THE CITY TO SOLVE.              
THE CITY TO SOLVE.              
WE NEED OUR PRIVATE SECTOR, OUR 
WE NEED OUR PRIVATE SECTOR, OUR 
COUNTY PARTNERS, THE HOUSING    
COUNTY PARTNERS, THE HOUSING    
AUTHORITIES, SO MANY.           
AUTHORITIES, SO MANY.           
AND EVERYONE IS AT THE TABLE, SO
AND EVERYONE IS AT THE TABLE, SO
THAT'S OUR TARGET, AND WE HOPE  
THAT'S OUR TARGET, AND WE HOPE  
THAT OTHERS ARE SETTING SOME    
THAT OTHERS ARE SETTING SOME    
TARGETS AS WELL THAT WILL HELP  
TARGETS AS WELL THAT WILL HELP  
DRIVE SOME SOLUTIONS.           
DRIVE SOME SOLUTIONS.           
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
>>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU,      
>>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU,      
MS. POST.                       
MS. POST.                       
JUST ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION,   
JUST ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION,   
AND JUST A BALLPARK FIGURE.     
AND JUST A BALLPARK FIGURE.     
WHAT IS THE AVERAGE INCOME      
WHAT IS THE AVERAGE INCOME      
LEVELS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW
LEVELS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW
TODAY?                          
TODAY?                          
>> SORRY, IN TERMS OF A FAMILY  
>> SORRY, IN TERMS OF A FAMILY  
OF FOUR, I THINK IT'S ABOUT     
OF FOUR, I THINK IT'S ABOUT     
70,000.                         
70,000.                         
>>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.           
>>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.           
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. POST.  
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. POST.  
>>CAROLE POST: THAT WAS VANESSA,
>>CAROLE POST: THAT WAS VANESSA,
BY THE WAY.                     
BY THE WAY.                     
ANY EXPERT QUESTIONS GO RIGHT TO
ANY EXPERT QUESTIONS GO RIGHT TO
VANESSA.                        
VANESSA.                        
>>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU,      
>>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU,      
VANESSA, VERY MUCH FOR YOUR     
VANESSA, VERY MUCH FOR YOUR     
ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.        
ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.        
I DO APPRECIATE IT.             
I DO APPRECIATE IT.             
I MISS LOOKING AT PEOPLE FACE TO
I MISS LOOKING AT PEOPLE FACE TO
FACE.                           
FACE.                           
I'M SORRY.                      
I'M SORRY.                      
VOICES TEND TO SOUND THE SAME.  
VOICES TEND TO SOUND THE SAME.  
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.           
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.           
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.          
COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.          
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU,   
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU,   
MR. CHAIRMAN.                   
MR. CHAIRMAN.                   
ACTUALLY, COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS  
ACTUALLY, COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS  
FIRST.                          
FIRST.                          
I DON'T KNOW IF HE WANTS TO GO  
I DON'T KNOW IF HE WANTS TO GO  
FIRST.                          
FIRST.                          
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN  
GUDES, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO      
GUDES, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO      
BEFORE DINGFELDER.              
BEFORE DINGFELDER.              
>>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
>>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU, SIR.                 
THANK YOU, SIR.                 
LET ME SAY GOOD REPORT BY STAFF.
LET ME SAY GOOD REPORT BY STAFF.
I'M GLAD THAT THE MOTION I MADE 
I'M GLAD THAT THE MOTION I MADE 
IN REFERENCE TO LAND BANKING,   
IN REFERENCE TO LAND BANKING,   
LAND TRUST AND THIS COUNCIL WE  
LAND TRUST AND THIS COUNCIL WE  
SET IT FORTH AND ADMINISTRATION 
SET IT FORTH AND ADMINISTRATION 
HEARD OUR CALL ON THAT ISSUE AND
HEARD OUR CALL ON THAT ISSUE AND
ALSO ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING  
ALSO ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING  
ISSUE THAT WE STARTED --        
ISSUE THAT WE STARTED --        
STARTING IN 2019.               
STARTING IN 2019.               
OUR CONCERNS ARE A FEW THINGS.  
OUR CONCERNS ARE A FEW THINGS.  
WHEN I LOOK AT TINY HOMES AND   
WHEN I LOOK AT TINY HOMES AND   
CONTAINER HOMES, I THINK IT'S A 
CONTAINER HOMES, I THINK IT'S A 
GOOD IDEA, BUT WHAT I DON'T WANT
GOOD IDEA, BUT WHAT I DON'T WANT
TO SEE WHEN I LOOK AT THE       
TO SEE WHEN I LOOK AT THE       
SCREEN, IT SAYS EAST TAMPA.     
SCREEN, IT SAYS EAST TAMPA.     
WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE, IF    
WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE, IF    
WE'RE GOING TO GO ON THIS       
WE'RE GOING TO GO ON THIS       
VENTURE, THAT TINY HOMES AND    
VENTURE, THAT TINY HOMES AND    
CONTAINER HOMES ARE IN ALL FOUR 
CONTAINER HOMES ARE IN ALL FOUR 
SECTORS OF THE CITY AND NOT JUST
SECTORS OF THE CITY AND NOT JUST
IN EAST TAMPA.                  
IN EAST TAMPA.                  
I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF YOU      
I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF YOU      
UNDERSTAND THAT, ALL OF EAST    
UNDERSTAND THAT, ALL OF EAST    
TAMPA IS NOT POOR.              
TAMPA IS NOT POOR.              
WE HAVE A LOT OF DIVERSE        
WE HAVE A LOT OF DIVERSE        
ECONOMICS THAT GO ON IN EAST    
ECONOMICS THAT GO ON IN EAST    
TAMPA, BUT I DON'T WANT TO LOOK 
TAMPA, BUT I DON'T WANT TO LOOK 
AT DEVALUING PROPERTY AS WELL BY
AT DEVALUING PROPERTY AS WELL BY
SAYING WE'RE GOING TO REDLINE   
SAYING WE'RE GOING TO REDLINE   
EAST TAMPA, SO ALL THE TINY     
EAST TAMPA, SO ALL THE TINY     
HOMES AND CONTAINER HOMES IN    
HOMES AND CONTAINER HOMES IN    
EAST TAMPA.                     
EAST TAMPA.                     
WE HAVE TO BE FAIR AND WE'RE A  
WE HAVE TO BE FAIR AND WE'RE A  
CITY, SO EVERYONE HAS TO SHARE  
CITY, SO EVERYONE HAS TO SHARE  
THE WEALTH OF AFFORDABLE        
THE WEALTH OF AFFORDABLE        
HOUSING, WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND 
HOUSING, WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND 
TINY HOMES IN SOUTH TAMPA, EAST 
TINY HOMES IN SOUTH TAMPA, EAST 
TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA. 
TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA. 
SO I JUST WANT TO HEAR YOUR     
SO I JUST WANT TO HEAR YOUR     
THOUGHTS ON THAT, MS. POST, AND 
THOUGHTS ON THAT, MS. POST, AND 
MS. McCLEARY.                   
MS. McCLEARY.                   
>>CAROLE POST: COUNCILMAN GUDES,
>>CAROLE POST: COUNCILMAN GUDES,
IT IS A GREAT POINT.            
IT IS A GREAT POINT.            
AGAIN, WE TRIED TO COVER AS MUCH
AGAIN, WE TRIED TO COVER AS MUCH
GROUND AS POSSIBLE AS WE COULD  
GROUND AS POSSIBLE AS WE COULD  
HERE, BUT YOU RAISE A POINT THAT
HERE, BUT YOU RAISE A POINT THAT
WAS ALSO A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC 
WAS ALSO A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC 
TO THE ADVISORY TEAM AND        
TO THE ADVISORY TEAM AND        
SOMETHING THAT VANESSA'S TEAM IS
SOMETHING THAT VANESSA'S TEAM IS
NOW INCORPORATING, WHICH IS     
NOW INCORPORATING, WHICH IS     
DECENTRALIZING THE IMPACTS OF   
DECENTRALIZING THE IMPACTS OF   
ALL PROGRAMS, WHETHER THE       
ALL PROGRAMS, WHETHER THE       
SUCCESS THAT SOME OF THEM HAVE  
SUCCESS THAT SOME OF THEM HAVE  
BROUGHT TO BEAR, WE WANT TO     
BROUGHT TO BEAR, WE WANT TO     
SHARE THOSE ACROSS THE CITY.    
SHARE THOSE ACROSS THE CITY.    
AND LIKEWISE, WHERE THERE ARE   
AND LIKEWISE, WHERE THERE ARE   
UNIQUE PILOTS, WE SHOULD BE     
UNIQUE PILOTS, WE SHOULD BE     
TRYING THEM IN ALL              
TRYING THEM IN ALL              
NEIGHBORHOODS.                  
NEIGHBORHOODS.                  
I THINK WE VERY MUCH SUPPORT    
I THINK WE VERY MUCH SUPPORT    
THAT.                           
THAT.                           
TO SOME EXTENT, WE RECOGNIZE    
TO SOME EXTENT, WE RECOGNIZE    
WHERE THERE IS GREATER DEMAND   
WHERE THERE IS GREATER DEMAND   
RIGHT NOW, AND SO SOME OF OUR   
RIGHT NOW, AND SO SOME OF OUR   
FOCUS HAS BEEN CONCENTRATED TO  
FOCUS HAS BEEN CONCENTRATED TO  
MEET THE MOST PRESSING DEMAND,  
MEET THE MOST PRESSING DEMAND,  
AND THAT TENDS TO BE            
AND THAT TENDS TO BE            
CENTRALIZED.                    
CENTRALIZED.                    
BUT OUR GOAL IS TO DECENTRALIZE 
BUT OUR GOAL IS TO DECENTRALIZE 
THESE PROGRAMS AND ENSURE THAT A
THESE PROGRAMS AND ENSURE THAT A
WIDE RANGE OF AFFORDABILITY     
WIDE RANGE OF AFFORDABILITY     
EXISTS ACROSS ALL NEIGHBORHOODS,
EXISTS ACROSS ALL NEIGHBORHOODS,
ACROSS ALL COMMUNITIES.         
ACROSS ALL COMMUNITIES.         
>>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M HOPING THAT
>>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M HOPING THAT
WE HAVE A POLICY THAT DIRECTS   
WE HAVE A POLICY THAT DIRECTS   
THAT SO WE DON'T GET COMPLACENT 
THAT SO WE DON'T GET COMPLACENT 
AND WE START A REDLINE          
AND WE START A REDLINE          
SITUATION.                      
SITUATION.                      
I'M HOPING THAT COMES FORTH.    
I'M HOPING THAT COMES FORTH.    
MY SECOND THING WE TALK ABOUT   
MY SECOND THING WE TALK ABOUT   
OUR OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB.       
OUR OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB.       
I'M GLAD WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. 
I'M GLAD WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. 
I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR
I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR
A WHILE.                        
A WHILE.                        
I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S WORKING FOR
I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S WORKING FOR
ALL FOLKS WHO REALLY NEED HELP  
ALL FOLKS WHO REALLY NEED HELP  
WITH THESE ROOFTOPS WITH SOME OF
WITH THESE ROOFTOPS WITH SOME OF
THE HOUSING THAT'S BEEN PASSED  
THE HOUSING THAT'S BEEN PASSED  
DOWN AND YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE  
DOWN AND YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE  
THAT CAN GET LOANS OR HAVE THE  
THAT CAN GET LOANS OR HAVE THE  
AFFORDABILITY TO DO CERTAIN     
AFFORDABILITY TO DO CERTAIN     
THINGS.                         
THINGS.                         
THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR THE CRA'S
THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR THE CRA'S
REHAB PROGRAM BE TOTALLY        
REHAB PROGRAM BE TOTALLY        
DIFFERENT FROM THE CITY'S       
DIFFERENT FROM THE CITY'S       
BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE STATE OR 
BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE STATE OR 
FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS WITH MONEY 
FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS WITH MONEY 
THAT'S -- THERE.                
THAT'S -- THERE.                
I ASKED THE CRA ARIZONA TO HAVE 
I ASKED THE CRA ARIZONA TO HAVE 
A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROGRAM SO  
A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROGRAM SO  
PEOPLE CAN BE ABLE TO FIX THEIR 
PEOPLE CAN BE ABLE TO FIX THEIR 
HOMES UP.                       
HOMES UP.                       
WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL SECTORS,   
WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL SECTORS,   
ESPCIALLY THE EAST TAMPA        
ESPCIALLY THE EAST TAMPA        
DISTRICT.                       
DISTRICT.                       
THAT'S WHY I PUT FORTH THE TREE 
THAT'S WHY I PUT FORTH THE TREE 
ORDINANCE.                      
ORDINANCE.                      
WE HAVE TO CLEAN UP THE AREAS TO
WE HAVE TO CLEAN UP THE AREAS TO
MAKE IT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE AND 
MAKE IT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE AND 
HAVE THE ECONOMIC DRIVE FOR THAT
HAVE THE ECONOMIC DRIVE FOR THAT
SIDE OF TOWN.                   
SIDE OF TOWN.                   
I HOPE YOUR PROGRAM WILL BE     
I HOPE YOUR PROGRAM WILL BE     
ROBUST WHERE IT HELPS MORE      
ROBUST WHERE IT HELPS MORE      
PEOPLE VERSUS HOLDING MONEY BACK
PEOPLE VERSUS HOLDING MONEY BACK
AND NOT HELPING PEOPLE.         
AND NOT HELPING PEOPLE.         
YOU CAN ELABORATE ON THE REHAB  
YOU CAN ELABORATE ON THE REHAB  
PROGRAM AND HOW ROBUST.         
PROGRAM AND HOW ROBUST.         
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: VANESSA     
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: VANESSA     
McCLEARY RESPONDING.            
McCLEARY RESPONDING.            
WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH OUR      
WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH OUR      
OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAM, WE
OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAM, WE
ARE TAKING IT ONLINE TO MAKE THE
ARE TAKING IT ONLINE TO MAKE THE
APPLICATION PROCESSING MORE     
APPLICATION PROCESSING MORE     
EFFICIENT THROUGH THE PROGRAM   
EFFICIENT THROUGH THE PROGRAM   
THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF   
THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF   
UPGRADING TO RIGHT NOW, NOT ONLY
UPGRADING TO RIGHT NOW, NOT ONLY
WOULD STAFF BE ABLE TO SEE THE  
WOULD STAFF BE ABLE TO SEE THE  
PROGRESS OF THE APPLICATION, BUT
PROGRESS OF THE APPLICATION, BUT
THE OWNER WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO 
THE OWNER WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO 
SEE WHERE THEIR APPLICATION IS  
SEE WHERE THEIR APPLICATION IS  
IN THE PROCESS.                 
IN THE PROCESS.                 
IN ADDITION, WE HAVE ADDED THE  
IN ADDITION, WE HAVE ADDED THE  
REPLACEMENT HOUSING PROGRAM     
REPLACEMENT HOUSING PROGRAM     
BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, EVERY SO  
BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, EVERY SO  
OFTEN WE HAVE HOMES THAT ARE    
OFTEN WE HAVE HOMES THAT ARE    
BEYOND REPAIR.                  
BEYOND REPAIR.                  
WE HAVE ONE HOME THAT RIGHT NOW 
WE HAVE ONE HOME THAT RIGHT NOW 
IS LEANING.                     
IS LEANING.                     
SO WE'RE MOVING QUICKLY TO GET  
SO WE'RE MOVING QUICKLY TO GET  
THE REPLACEMENT HOUSING PROGRAM 
THE REPLACEMENT HOUSING PROGRAM 
IN PLACE TO ASSIST THAT         
IN PLACE TO ASSIST THAT         
HOMEOWNER.                      
HOMEOWNER.                      
IT WILL BE A MODULAR HOME       
IT WILL BE A MODULAR HOME       
BECAUSE WE CAN TEAR DOWN THE    
BECAUSE WE CAN TEAR DOWN THE    
HOME AND PLACE THAT MODULAR     
HOME AND PLACE THAT MODULAR     
RATHER QUICKLY.                 
RATHER QUICKLY.                 
THE HOMEOWNER WOULD BE          
THE HOMEOWNER WOULD BE          
RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN       
RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN       
RELOCATION DURING THAT          
RELOCATION DURING THAT          
TRANSITION BECAUSE IT'S A LARGE 
TRANSITION BECAUSE IT'S A LARGE 
OUTLAY.                         
OUTLAY.                         
WE WANT TO HELP AS MANY PEOPLE  
WE WANT TO HELP AS MANY PEOPLE  
AS POSSIBLE.                    
AS POSSIBLE.                    
THEY WOULD MAKE A SMALL PAYMENT 
THEY WOULD MAKE A SMALL PAYMENT 
THAT WOULD INCLUDE ESCROWING    
THAT WOULD INCLUDE ESCROWING    
THEIR HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE AND  
THEIR HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE AND  
THEIR TAXES TO MAKE SURE THAT   
THEIR TAXES TO MAKE SURE THAT   
THEY DON'T LOSE THE HOME TO     
THEY DON'T LOSE THE HOME TO     
THOSE AND THEN A SMALL PORTION  
THOSE AND THEN A SMALL PORTION  
TOWARDS THE PRINCIPAL.          
TOWARDS THE PRINCIPAL.          
THEY WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO HAVE 
THEY WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO HAVE 
A HOME THAT IS DECENT, SAFE,    
A HOME THAT IS DECENT, SAFE,    
SANITARY, HELPS TO BUILD UP THE 
SANITARY, HELPS TO BUILD UP THE 
NEIGHBORHOOD.                   
NEIGHBORHOOD.                   
I DON'T THINK I HAD A SLIDE ON  
I DON'T THINK I HAD A SLIDE ON  
THERE.                          
THERE.                          
BUT WE DO HAVE WHAT THE MODULAR 
BUT WE DO HAVE WHAT THE MODULAR 
HOMES LOOK LIKE, AND THEY ARE   
HOMES LOOK LIKE, AND THEY ARE   
BEAUTIFUL WITH BEAUTIFUL        
BEAUTIFUL WITH BEAUTIFUL        
AMENITIES.                      
AMENITIES.                      
WE HAVE SHOWN THEM TO A FEW     
WE HAVE SHOWN THEM TO A FEW     
POTENTIAL APPLICANTS FOR THE    
POTENTIAL APPLICANTS FOR THE    
PROGRAM, JUST TO BE SURE THAT IT
PROGRAM, JUST TO BE SURE THAT IT
WAS SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY     
WAS SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY     
WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF.           
WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF.           
SO THEY WERE VERY EXCITED AND   
SO THEY WERE VERY EXCITED AND   
LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING       
LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING       
FORWARD.                        
FORWARD.                        
>>ORLANDO GUDES: LASTLY, WHEN WE
>>ORLANDO GUDES: LASTLY, WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT OUR NONPROFITS, I SEE
TALK ABOUT OUR NONPROFITS, I SEE
THREE, CDC, HABITAT AND I       
THREE, CDC, HABITAT AND I       
BELIEVE EAST TAMPA BUSINESS     
BELIEVE EAST TAMPA BUSINESS     
ASSOCIATION.                    
ASSOCIATION.                    
HOW IS THAT GETTING MORE        
HOW IS THAT GETTING MORE        
NONPROFITS INVOLVED IN THE      
NONPROFITS INVOLVED IN THE      
PROCESS?                        
PROCESS?                        
I GET CALLS ALL THE TIME PEOPLE 
I GET CALLS ALL THE TIME PEOPLE 
SAYING THEY WANT TO BE INVOLVED 
SAYING THEY WANT TO BE INVOLVED 
BUT THEY HAVE STRINGENT         
BUT THEY HAVE STRINGENT         
CRITERIA.                       
CRITERIA.                       
HOW ARE WE COMING ALONG TO GET  
HOW ARE WE COMING ALONG TO GET  
MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN BUILDING
MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN BUILDING
AND HELPING, ESPECIALLY SOME OF 
AND HELPING, ESPECIALLY SOME OF 
THESE NONPROFITS?               
THESE NONPROFITS?               
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: THOSE WERE  
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: THOSE WERE  
THE THREE THAT WERE ON THE      
THE THREE THAT WERE ON THE      
SLIDE, BUT WE ALSO WORK WITH    
SLIDE, BUT WE ALSO WORK WITH    
EAST TAMPA BUSINESS AND CIVIC   
EAST TAMPA BUSINESS AND CIVIC   
ASSOCIATION, REBUILDING TOGETHER
ASSOCIATION, REBUILDING TOGETHER
TAMPA BAY.                      
TAMPA BAY.                      
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT 
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT 
NONPROFITS THAT WE WORK WITH.   
NONPROFITS THAT WE WORK WITH.   
SO WHEN IT COMES TO WORKING WITH
SO WHEN IT COMES TO WORKING WITH
NONPROFITS TO BUILD AFFORDABLE  
NONPROFITS TO BUILD AFFORDABLE  
HOUSING, IT'S RESPONDING TO AN  
HOUSING, IT'S RESPONDING TO AN  
RFP.                            
RFP.                            
AND SO WHEN WE PUT OUT FUNDING, 
AND SO WHEN WE PUT OUT FUNDING, 
WE JUST NEED PEOPLE TO RESPOND. 
WE JUST NEED PEOPLE TO RESPOND. 
WHEN WE DID OUR LAST CHDO       
WHEN WE DID OUR LAST CHDO       
APPLICATION, WE FUNDED EVERY    
APPLICATION, WE FUNDED EVERY    
ORGANIZATION THAT RESPONDED TO  
ORGANIZATION THAT RESPONDED TO  
THAT RFP BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN     
THAT RFP BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN     
TRYING TO EXPAND.               
TRYING TO EXPAND.               
WE ALSO DO WORKSHOPS.           
WE ALSO DO WORKSHOPS.           
WE HAVE DONE WORKSHOPS ON HOW TO
WE HAVE DONE WORKSHOPS ON HOW TO
APPLY FOR PROGRAMS AWAY FROM AN 
APPLY FOR PROGRAMS AWAY FROM AN 
RFP AS WELL AS DURING THE RFP   
RFP AS WELL AS DURING THE RFP   
PROCESS, WE DO A WORKSHOP WHERE 
PROCESS, WE DO A WORKSHOP WHERE 
WE WALK PEOPLE THROUGH THE      
WE WALK PEOPLE THROUGH THE      
APPLICATION.                    
APPLICATION.                    
WE'VE ALSO TOLD FOLKS, WE DO A  
WE'VE ALSO TOLD FOLKS, WE DO A  
GRANTMANSHIP WORKSHOP ONCE A    
GRANTMANSHIP WORKSHOP ONCE A    
YEAR, USUALLY IN JANUARY, WHERE 
YEAR, USUALLY IN JANUARY, WHERE 
WE JUST HELP PEOPLE TO          
WE JUST HELP PEOPLE TO          
UNDERSTAND WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR 
UNDERSTAND WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR 
AN APPLICATION.                 
AN APPLICATION.                 
WE'VE TOLD THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, 
WE'VE TOLD THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, 
WE ARE A PUBLIC ENTITY, AND SO  
WE ARE A PUBLIC ENTITY, AND SO  
IF THEY WANT TO SEE A PAST      
IF THEY WANT TO SEE A PAST      
RESPONSE THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL,   
RESPONSE THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL,   
THEY ARE WELCOME TO GET A COPY. 
THEY ARE WELCOME TO GET A COPY. 
AND WE HAVE MAILED OUT, E-MAILED
AND WE HAVE MAILED OUT, E-MAILED
OUT COPIES OF APPLICATIONS.     
OUT COPIES OF APPLICATIONS.     
WE E-MAILED OUT THE ONE THAT    
WE E-MAILED OUT THE ONE THAT    
DOMAIN DID, THAT CDC HAS DONE,  
DOMAIN DID, THAT CDC HAS DONE,  
THAT HABITAT HAS DONE.          
THAT HABITAT HAS DONE.          
SO WE'VE HAD SOME REQUESTS, AND 
SO WE'VE HAD SOME REQUESTS, AND 
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THEM      
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THEM      
RESPONDING.                     
RESPONDING.                     
>>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU VERY 
>>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU VERY 
MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.             
MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.             
I YIELD BACK.                   
I YIELD BACK.                   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL     
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL     
MEMBERS CARLSON AND VIERA, WOULD
MEMBERS CARLSON AND VIERA, WOULD
YOU LIKE TO SPEAK AS WELL?      
YOU LIKE TO SPEAK AS WELL?      
>>BILL CARLSON: YES, WHEN THEY  
>>BILL CARLSON: YES, WHEN THEY  
ARE DONE.                       
ARE DONE.                       
>>LUIS VIERA: I CAN MAKE BRIEF  
>>LUIS VIERA: I CAN MAKE BRIEF  
COMMENTS AT THE END.            
COMMENTS AT THE END.            
THANK YOU, SIR.                 
THANK YOU, SIR.                 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL GO    
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL GO    
DINGFELDER, CARLSON, VIERA.     
DINGFELDER, CARLSON, VIERA.     
GO AHEAD COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER. 
GO AHEAD COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER. 
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU,   
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU,   
MR. CHAIRMAN.                   
MR. CHAIRMAN.                   
THANK YOU, CAROLE AND VANESSA   
THANK YOU, CAROLE AND VANESSA   
FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.          
FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.          
I'VE GOT A SERIES OF QUESTIONS. 
I'VE GOT A SERIES OF QUESTIONS. 
ABOUT A YEAR AGO, MS. CHLOE     
ABOUT A YEAR AGO, MS. CHLOE     
CONEY STOOD IN FRONT OF US AND  
CONEY STOOD IN FRONT OF US AND  
MADE A VERY ADAMANT, SINCERE AND
MADE A VERY ADAMANT, SINCERE AND
STRONG REQUEST THAT WE DO AN    
STRONG REQUEST THAT WE DO AN    
AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND.  
AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND.  
CAROLE, I KNOW YOU SPOKE TO IT  
CAROLE, I KNOW YOU SPOKE TO IT  
BRIEFLY.                        
BRIEFLY.                        
I DIDN'T HEAR MUCH IN THE WAY OF
I DIDN'T HEAR MUCH IN THE WAY OF
DETAILS OR PLANS FOR THAT.      
DETAILS OR PLANS FOR THAT.      
I'M GOING TO HAVE ABOUT FIVE    
I'M GOING TO HAVE ABOUT FIVE    
QUESTIONS, BUT THAT'S THE FIRST 
QUESTIONS, BUT THAT'S THE FIRST 
ONE.                            
ONE.                            
>>CAROLE POST: I CAN JUST       
>>CAROLE POST: I CAN JUST       
RESPOND TO THAT ONE.            
RESPOND TO THAT ONE.            
THE ADVISORY TEAM DID RECOMMEND 
THE ADVISORY TEAM DID RECOMMEND 
THAT THE CITY EXPLORE DEVELOPING
THAT THE CITY EXPLORE DEVELOPING
HOUSING TRUST FUND LIKE A       
HOUSING TRUST FUND LIKE A       
COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, IT'S A    
COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, IT'S A    
RELATIVELY COMMON TOOL THAT CAN 
RELATIVELY COMMON TOOL THAT CAN 
BE USED TO HELP DRIVE POSITIVE  
BE USED TO HELP DRIVE POSITIVE  
IMPACTS HERE.                   
IMPACTS HERE.                   
AND IT IS ON OUR HORIZON.       
AND IT IS ON OUR HORIZON.       
FRANKLY, IT'S JUST SOMETHING AS 
FRANKLY, IT'S JUST SOMETHING AS 
WE'VE GOT -- AS YOU CAN SEE,    
WE'VE GOT -- AS YOU CAN SEE,    
MANY, MANY IRONS IN THE FIRE    
MANY, MANY IRONS IN THE FIRE    
THAT WE'VE PUT ON A SIDE BURNER.
THAT WE'VE PUT ON A SIDE BURNER.
WE FEEL LIKE THE ONE TAMPA,     
WE FEEL LIKE THE ONE TAMPA,     
501(C)(3) IS UP AND RUNNING AND 
501(C)(3) IS UP AND RUNNING AND 
CAN SERVE PHILANTHROPIC AND     
CAN SERVE PHILANTHROPIC AND     
FUND-RAISING NEEDS.             
FUND-RAISING NEEDS.             
THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST WILL BE
THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST WILL BE
DONE IN THE COMING WEEKS AND    
DONE IN THE COMING WEEKS AND    
WILL REALLY BEGIN TO DRIVE SOME 
WILL REALLY BEGIN TO DRIVE SOME 
OF OUR SOLUTIONING AND THE TRUST
OF OUR SOLUTIONING AND THE TRUST
FUND OR THE TRUST FUND THAT     
FUND OR THE TRUST FUND THAT     
YOU'RE REFERRING TO, IF WE'RE   
YOU'RE REFERRING TO, IF WE'RE   
SPEAKING OF THE SAME THING THAT 
SPEAKING OF THE SAME THING THAT 
WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE ADVISORY 
WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE ADVISORY 
TEAM, WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT   
TEAM, WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT   
WOULD BE DOWN THE ROAD FOR US.  
WOULD BE DOWN THE ROAD FOR US.  
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.        
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.        
IN REGARD TO THE 501(C)(3), IT  
IN REGARD TO THE 501(C)(3), IT  
SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S SORT OF      
SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S SORT OF      
EVOLVING FROM ITS ORIGINAL      
EVOLVING FROM ITS ORIGINAL      
PURPOSE INTO OTHER POSITIVE     
PURPOSE INTO OTHER POSITIVE     
PURPOSES, WHICH IS GREAT.       
PURPOSES, WHICH IS GREAT.       
I'M JUST WONDERING, WHO SITS ON 
I'M JUST WONDERING, WHO SITS ON 
THE BOARD OF THAT.              
THE BOARD OF THAT.              
DOES CITY COUNCIL HAVE A        
DOES CITY COUNCIL HAVE A        
REPRESENTATIVE ON THAT TO HELP  
REPRESENTATIVE ON THAT TO HELP  
GUIDE IT IN THE FUTURE?         
GUIDE IT IN THE FUTURE?         
OR IS THAT JUST ADMINISTRATIVE  
OR IS THAT JUST ADMINISTRATIVE  
APPOINTMENTS AND REPRESENTATIVES
APPOINTMENTS AND REPRESENTATIVES
ON THE NONPROFIT BOARD?         
ON THE NONPROFIT BOARD?         
>>CAROLE POST: SO THE GOVERNANCE
>>CAROLE POST: SO THE GOVERNANCE
IS IN THE WORKS, AND I'D BE     
IS IN THE WORKS, AND I'D BE     
HAPPY TO RELATE SOME OF THOSE   
HAPPY TO RELATE SOME OF THOSE   
DETAILS AS THEY COME INTO       
DETAILS AS THEY COME INTO       
GREATER SHAPE.                  
GREATER SHAPE.                  
BUT THE FORMULATION OF THIS     
BUT THE FORMULATION OF THIS     
ENTITY IS DONE PURSUANT TO      
ENTITY IS DONE PURSUANT TO      
STANDARD GUIDANCE.              
STANDARD GUIDANCE.              
GINA GRIMES' OFFICE IS ASSISTING
GINA GRIMES' OFFICE IS ASSISTING
IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF IT.       
IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF IT.       
IN ADDITION, THE FLORIDA HOUSING
IN ADDITION, THE FLORIDA HOUSING
COALITION, WHICH WAS AN         
COALITION, WHICH WAS AN         
AGREEMENT THAT CAME THROUGH CITY
AGREEMENT THAT CAME THROUGH CITY
COUNCIL, HAS BEEN CONTRACTED TO 
COUNCIL, HAS BEEN CONTRACTED TO 
HELP ADVISE US ON HOW WE DEVELOP
HELP ADVISE US ON HOW WE DEVELOP
AND BUILD AND ESTABLISH         
AND BUILD AND ESTABLISH         
APPROPRIATE GOVERNANCE FOR THE  
APPROPRIATE GOVERNANCE FOR THE  
OBJECTIVES THAT WE HAVE SET     
OBJECTIVES THAT WE HAVE SET     
FORTH.                          
FORTH.                          
SO WE'RE HOPING TO ENGAGE BEST  
SO WE'RE HOPING TO ENGAGE BEST  
PRACTICES THERE, BUT THE DETAILS
PRACTICES THERE, BUT THE DETAILS
ARE NOT YET CONCLUDED.          
ARE NOT YET CONCLUDED.          
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.        
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.        
IF I WASN'T SUBTLE ENOUGH, I    
IF I WASN'T SUBTLE ENOUGH, I    
THINK ONE OF THE BEST PRACTICES 
THINK ONE OF THE BEST PRACTICES 
WOULD BE TO INCLUDE A COUNCIL   
WOULD BE TO INCLUDE A COUNCIL   
MEMBER ON THAT BOARD.           
MEMBER ON THAT BOARD.           
OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN'T HAVE MORE   
OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN'T HAVE MORE   
THAN ONE, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE AT 
THAN ONE, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE AT 
LEAST ONE.                      
LEAST ONE.                      
SO I HOPE THAT'S INCLUDED.      
SO I HOPE THAT'S INCLUDED.      
VANESSA YOU SPOKE TO INCENTIVES 
VANESSA YOU SPOKE TO INCENTIVES 
THAT WOULD HELP AFFORDABLE      
THAT WOULD HELP AFFORDABLE      
HOUSING.                        
HOUSING.                        
AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT, BUT I 
AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT, BUT I 
THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE REALLY 
THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE REALLY 
CAREFUL BECAUSE IT COULD BE A   
CAREFUL BECAUSE IT COULD BE A   
SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT WE CREATE A 
SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT WE CREATE A 
WHOLE SLEW OF REGULATORY        
WHOLE SLEW OF REGULATORY        
INCENTIVES LIKE ALLOWING TREES  
INCENTIVES LIKE ALLOWING TREES  
TO COME DOWN WITHOUT MITIGATION,
TO COME DOWN WITHOUT MITIGATION,
YOU KNOW, SMALLER LOTS THAT     
YOU KNOW, SMALLER LOTS THAT     
MIGHT IMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS,     
MIGHT IMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS,     
ET CETERA, AND FROM A POLICY    
ET CETERA, AND FROM A POLICY    
PERSPECTIVE, WE ALL MIGHT THINK,
PERSPECTIVE, WE ALL MIGHT THINK,
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A TRADE-OFF   
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A TRADE-OFF   
AND THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR     
AND THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR     
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.             
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.             
BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE       
BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE       
CAREFUL NOT TO GO DOWN A        
CAREFUL NOT TO GO DOWN A        
SLIPPERY SLOPE TO SAY, OH, AND, 
SLIPPERY SLOPE TO SAY, OH, AND, 
BY THE WAY, WE'RE GOING TO OFFER
BY THE WAY, WE'RE GOING TO OFFER
THAT FOR ALL DEVELOPMENT.       
THAT FOR ALL DEVELOPMENT.       
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: -- STRICTLY 
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: -- STRICTLY 
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT 
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT 
CREATIG A SEPARATE PART OF THE  
CREATIG A SEPARATE PART OF THE  
CODE SPECIFICALLY FOR AFFORDABLE
CODE SPECIFICALLY FOR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING AND ANYTIME THEY ARE    
HOUSING AND ANYTIME THEY ARE    
UTILIZED, THERE IS A RESTRICTION
UTILIZED, THERE IS A RESTRICTION
PLACED ON THAT PROPERTY SO THAT 
PLACED ON THAT PROPERTY SO THAT 
SOMEONE DOESN'T SAY, I'M        
SOMEONE DOESN'T SAY, I'M        
BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I'D
BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I'D
LIKE TO GET THAT WAIVER AND THEN
LIKE TO GET THAT WAIVER AND THEN
NOT.                            
NOT.                            
AND THERE'S A LOT MORE -- I     
AND THERE'S A LOT MORE -- I     
MEAN, I GAVE YOU QUICK, BRIEF   
MEAN, I GAVE YOU QUICK, BRIEF   
OVERVIEWS, BUT THERE'S A LOT    
OVERVIEWS, BUT THERE'S A LOT    
MORE DETAILS TO IT, BECAUSE,    
MORE DETAILS TO IT, BECAUSE,    
YES, WE DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN A 
YES, WE DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN A 
SLIPPERY SLOPE.                 
SLIPPERY SLOPE.                 
WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE CITY'S  
WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE CITY'S  
CANOPY.                         
CANOPY.                         
WE JUST WANT TO BE REASONABLE IN
WE JUST WANT TO BE REASONABLE IN
HOW WE DO IT AND PROVIDE SOME   
HOW WE DO IT AND PROVIDE SOME   
WAIVERS THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE
WAIVERS THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE
PROJECT TO BE DEVELOPED AT AN   
PROJECT TO BE DEVELOPED AT AN   
AFFORDABLE PRICE.               
AFFORDABLE PRICE.               
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.       
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT.       
I THINK IT WAS COUNCILMAN CITRO 
I THINK IT WAS COUNCILMAN CITRO 
POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE  
POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE  
DO ALLOW SOME OF THOSE -- [AUDIO
DO ALLOW SOME OF THOSE -- [AUDIO
INTERFERENCE] -- SOMEBODY       
INTERFERENCE] -- SOMEBODY       
RUSTLING -- FOR THE PURPOSE OF  
RUSTLING -- FOR THE PURPOSE OF  
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I THINK IT'S
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I THINK IT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT FOR COUNCIL TO 
REALLY IMPORTANT FOR COUNCIL TO 
KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE THRESHOLD 
KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE THRESHOLD 
IS THAT WE'RE ALLOWING IT FOR.  
IS THAT WE'RE ALLOWING IT FOR.  
$70,000 PER PERSON FAMILY OR    
$70,000 PER PERSON FAMILY OR    
50,000 FOUR PERSON FAMILY, WHAT 
50,000 FOUR PERSON FAMILY, WHAT 
HAVE YOU.                       
HAVE YOU.                       
CAROL, AS YOU MENTIONED, THESE  
CAROL, AS YOU MENTIONED, THESE  
WORDS, AFFORDABLE, ATTAINABLE,  
WORDS, AFFORDABLE, ATTAINABLE,  
WORKFORCE, AFTER A WHILE THEY   
WORKFORCE, AFTER A WHILE THEY   
ALMOST BECOME MEANINGLESS       
ALMOST BECOME MEANINGLESS       
WITHOUT SOME PRECISE NUMBERS    
WITHOUT SOME PRECISE NUMBERS    
ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.           
ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.           
SO WHEN YOU BRING BACK THOSE    
SO WHEN YOU BRING BACK THOSE    
PROPOSALS TO COUNCIL FOR        
PROPOSALS TO COUNCIL FOR        
ORDINANCE CHANGES, LET'S MAKE   
ORDINANCE CHANGES, LET'S MAKE   
SURE WE'RE VERY, VERY SPECIFIC  
SURE WE'RE VERY, VERY SPECIFIC  
IN TERMS OF WHO THE RECIPIENT IS
IN TERMS OF WHO THE RECIPIENT IS
GOING TO BE FOR THESE TYPES OF  
GOING TO BE FOR THESE TYPES OF  
PROPOSALS, NOT JUST USING THOSE 
PROPOSALS, NOT JUST USING THOSE 
VAGUE WORDS THAT I THINK ARE A  
VAGUE WORDS THAT I THINK ARE A  
LITTLE DANGEROUS.               
LITTLE DANGEROUS.               
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: IN THE      
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: IN THE      
PROPOSAL, IT INCLUDES           
PROPOSAL, IT INCLUDES           
DEFINITIONS FOR WHAT IS         
DEFINITIONS FOR WHAT IS         
CONSIDERED WORKFORCE AND WHAT IS
CONSIDERED WORKFORCE AND WHAT IS
CONSIDERED AFFORDABLE, AND THEY 
CONSIDERED AFFORDABLE, AND THEY 
ARE VERY SPECIFIC IN TERMS OF   
ARE VERY SPECIFIC IN TERMS OF   
INCOMES.                        
INCOMES.                        
SO I CAN MEET WITH YOU LATER AND
SO I CAN MEET WITH YOU LATER AND
GO THROUGH IN GREATER DETAIL,   
GO THROUGH IN GREATER DETAIL,   
BUT DURING THIS FORUM, WE JUST  
BUT DURING THIS FORUM, WE JUST  
TRIED TO STAY HIGH LEVEL.       
TRIED TO STAY HIGH LEVEL.       
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S FINE. 
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S FINE. 
AND I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT  
AND I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT  
THING IS THAT THOSE TYPE OF     
THING IS THAT THOSE TYPE OF     
DETAILS GET CODIFIED WHEN WE'RE 
DETAILS GET CODIFIED WHEN WE'RE 
DOING -- WHEN WE ARE CREATING   
DOING -- WHEN WE ARE CREATING   
THE INCENTIVES AS WELL.         
THE INCENTIVES AS WELL.         
I SAW A QUICK REFERENCE, CAROLE,
I SAW A QUICK REFERENCE, CAROLE,
IT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT SOUTH   
IT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT SOUTH   
TAMPA SINGLE-FAMILY.            
TAMPA SINGLE-FAMILY.            
I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING MORE THAN
I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING MORE THAN
THAT.                           
THAT.                           
AND I WAS SORT OF SHOCKED       
AND I WAS SORT OF SHOCKED       
BECAUSE THE LAND PRICES IN SOUTH
BECAUSE THE LAND PRICES IN SOUTH
TAMPA AND NOW IT'S BECOMING ALL 
TAMPA AND NOW IT'S BECOMING ALL 
OVER THE PLACE.                 
OVER THE PLACE.                 
SORT OF PROHIBITIVE FOR         
SORT OF PROHIBITIVE FOR         
AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THE WHOLE.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THE WHOLE.
WHAT WAS THAT REFERENCE, SOUTH  
WHAT WAS THAT REFERENCE, SOUTH  
TAMPA SINGLE-FAMILY AFFORDABLE  
TAMPA SINGLE-FAMILY AFFORDABLE  
HOUSING?                        
HOUSING?                        
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: ACTUALLY.   
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: ACTUALLY.   
IT WAS PROBABLY BETTER DEFINED  
IT WAS PROBABLY BETTER DEFINED  
AS PORT TAMPA AND IT'S SOME     
AS PORT TAMPA AND IT'S SOME     
PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNS THAT
PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNS THAT
WE'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP SOME   
WE'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP SOME   
AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON.          
AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON.          
WE ARE LOOKING FOR WHERE WE CAN 
WE ARE LOOKING FOR WHERE WE CAN 
FIND PROPERTY WITHIN SOUTH TAMPA
FIND PROPERTY WITHIN SOUTH TAMPA
BECAUSE THERE IS A WORKFORCE    
BECAUSE THERE IS A WORKFORCE    
THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO  
THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO  
LIVE NEAR THAT AGAIN WOULD BE   
LIVE NEAR THAT AGAIN WOULD BE   
PART OF THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST
PART OF THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST
SO THAT PROPERTY COULD REMAIN   
SO THAT PROPERTY COULD REMAIN   
AFFORDABLE.                     
AFFORDABLE.                     
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S NOT   
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S NOT   
THE FORMER LANDFILL SITE DOWN IN
THE FORMER LANDFILL SITE DOWN IN
PORT TAMPA THAT WE'RE TALKING   
PORT TAMPA THAT WE'RE TALKING   
ABOUT, IS IT?                   
ABOUT, IS IT?                   
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: NO.         
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: NO.         
IT'S FIRE STATION.              
IT'S FIRE STATION.              
FORMER FIRE STATION.            
FORMER FIRE STATION.            
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WAS MY  
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WAS MY  
NEXT GUESS.                     
NEXT GUESS.                     
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: YEAH.       
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: YEAH.       
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW BIG IS   
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW BIG IS   
THE FIRE STATION PROPERTY?      
THE FIRE STATION PROPERTY?      
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: I BELIEVE   
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: I BELIEVE   
IT'S ABOUT THREE ACRES.         
IT'S ABOUT THREE ACRES.         
AGAIN, I CAN GET GREATER DETAIL 
AGAIN, I CAN GET GREATER DETAIL 
AND SHARE THAT WITH YOU OFF     
AND SHARE THAT WITH YOU OFF     
LINE.                           
LINE.                           
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS        
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS        
CURIOUS.                        
CURIOUS.                        
IF YOU WERE FINDING AFFORDABLE  
IF YOU WERE FINDING AFFORDABLE  
HOUSING TYPE PROPERTY IN SOUTH  
HOUSING TYPE PROPERTY IN SOUTH  
TAMPA, YOU ARE REALLY DOING     
TAMPA, YOU ARE REALLY DOING     
AMAZING WORK.                   
AMAZING WORK.                   
NOT THAT YOU'RE NOT ALWAYS DOING
NOT THAT YOU'RE NOT ALWAYS DOING
AMAZING WORK.                   
AMAZING WORK.                   
GIVE US A QUICK UPDATE ON THE   
GIVE US A QUICK UPDATE ON THE   
RIVERFRONT PROPERTY.            
RIVERFRONT PROPERTY.            
I THINK MOST OF US STOOD OUT    
I THINK MOST OF US STOOD OUT    
THERE ON THAT PRE-COVID DAY IN  
THERE ON THAT PRE-COVID DAY IN  
THE WINTER AND ENJOYED A        
THE WINTER AND ENJOYED A        
PLEASANT TIME UNDER A TENT      
PLEASANT TIME UNDER A TENT      
TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE OF
TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE OF
THAT PROPERTY MIGHT BE.         
THAT PROPERTY MIGHT BE.         
I GUESS NOW WE'RE AT LEAST EIGHT
I GUESS NOW WE'RE AT LEAST EIGHT
MONTHS LATER, I ASSUME THERE'S  
MONTHS LATER, I ASSUME THERE'S  
AN RFP PROBABLY IN SOME SORT OF 
AN RFP PROBABLY IN SOME SORT OF 
DRAFT FORM, BUT YOU GUYS        
DRAFT FORM, BUT YOU GUYS        
PROMISED YOU'D LET US SEE BEFORE
PROMISED YOU'D LET US SEE BEFORE
IT WENT OUT ON THE STREET.      
IT WENT OUT ON THE STREET.      
WHERE ARE WE AT ON THE          
WHERE ARE WE AT ON THE          
RIVERFRONT PROPERTY?            
RIVERFRONT PROPERTY?            
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: SO WE HAVE  
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: SO WE HAVE  
NOW CONCLUDED THE MEETINGS WITH 
NOW CONCLUDED THE MEETINGS WITH 
THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE DID    
THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE DID    
MEET WITH THE WEST TAMPA        
MEET WITH THE WEST TAMPA        
COMMUNITY TO GET THEIR INPUT.   
COMMUNITY TO GET THEIR INPUT.   
WE HAVE A DRAFT OF THE RFP THAT 
WE HAVE A DRAFT OF THE RFP THAT 
IS BEING CIRCULATED THROUGH CITY
IS BEING CIRCULATED THROUGH CITY
DEPARTMENTS SO THAT WE CAN      
DEPARTMENTS SO THAT WE CAN      
INCLUDE ANY POTENTIAL FUTURE    
INCLUDE ANY POTENTIAL FUTURE    
DEVELOPMENTS, MAKING THE        
DEVELOPMENTS, MAKING THE        
DEVELOPERS AWARE.               
DEVELOPERS AWARE.               
THE PLAN IS TO PUT THAT RFP OUT 
THE PLAN IS TO PUT THAT RFP OUT 
SOMETIME THIS FALL.             
SOMETIME THIS FALL.             
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.        
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.        
IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE  
IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE  
HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS AND
HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS AND
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SEEING THE  
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SEEING THE  
RFP.                            
RFP.                            
I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU
I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU
CAN SHARE IT WITH COUNCIL, AT   
CAN SHARE IT WITH COUNCIL, AT   
LEAST IN WRITING BEFORE IT GOES 
LEAST IN WRITING BEFORE IT GOES 
TOO MUCH FURTHER, BECAUSE THAT  
TOO MUCH FURTHER, BECAUSE THAT  
WAY WE CAN GIVE YOU OUR         
WAY WE CAN GIVE YOU OUR         
INDIVIDUAL INPUT, LIKE I SAID,  
INDIVIDUAL INPUT, LIKE I SAID,  
BEFORE IT GETS TOO FAR ALONG.   
BEFORE IT GETS TOO FAR ALONG.   
MY LAST QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, 
MY LAST QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, 
AND I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER    
AND I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER    
COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYBE MR. CITRO
COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYBE MR. CITRO
ALLUDED TO IT EARLIER, THIS     
ALLUDED TO IT EARLIER, THIS     
NUMBER -- THIS NUMBER THAT WE'RE
NUMBER -- THIS NUMBER THAT WE'RE
SHOOTING FOR, CAROLE, I DON'T   
SHOOTING FOR, CAROLE, I DON'T   
HAVE IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME,   
HAVE IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME,   
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS 10,000 
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS 10,000 
UNITS.                          
UNITS.                          
YEAH, THERE IT IS.              
YEAH, THERE IT IS.              
10,000 UNITS BY 2027.           
10,000 UNITS BY 2027.           
HOW DID THE COMMITTEE DERIVE    
HOW DID THE COMMITTEE DERIVE    
THAT NUMBER?                    
THAT NUMBER?                    
WHAT WAS THE ORIGIN OF THAT     
WHAT WAS THE ORIGIN OF THAT     
NUMBER?                         
NUMBER?                         
BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM A BIT      
BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM A BIT      
ARBITRARY, AND I'M WONDERING HOW
ARBITRARY, AND I'M WONDERING HOW
MUCH IT REALLY ADDRESSES THE    
MUCH IT REALLY ADDRESSES THE    
TRULY POOR FOLKS.               
TRULY POOR FOLKS.               
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A FAMILY OF  
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A FAMILY OF  
FOUR AND $70,000, I REALIZE THEY
FOUR AND $70,000, I REALIZE THEY
MIGHT BE STRUGGLING A BIT, BUT  
MIGHT BE STRUGGLING A BIT, BUT  
THEY ARE NOT -- I DON'T THINK   
THEY ARE NOT -- I DON'T THINK   
THAT'S TRULY THE POOREST FOLKS  
THAT'S TRULY THE POOREST FOLKS  
THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.        
THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.        
THAT 10,000 UNITS, ARE WE       
THAT 10,000 UNITS, ARE WE       
ADDRESSING FOLKS WHO MIGHT HAVE 
ADDRESSING FOLKS WHO MIGHT HAVE 
A FAMILY OF FOUR ON $30,000 A   
A FAMILY OF FOUR ON $30,000 A   
YEAR, YOU KNOW, WORKING TWO JOBS
YEAR, YOU KNOW, WORKING TWO JOBS
AT BURGER KING AND CHICK-FIL-A  
AT BURGER KING AND CHICK-FIL-A  
OR WHATEVER?                    
OR WHATEVER?                    
>>CAROLE POST: TO BE RESPONSIVE 
>>CAROLE POST: TO BE RESPONSIVE 
TO THAT, I SPOKE A LITTLE BIT   
TO THAT, I SPOKE A LITTLE BIT   
ABOUT IT ON THAT SLIDE.         
ABOUT IT ON THAT SLIDE.         
THE RATIONALE THERE WAS TWOFOLD,
THE RATIONALE THERE WAS TWOFOLD,
AND IN RESPONSE TO THE NATURE OF
AND IN RESPONSE TO THE NATURE OF
YOUR QUESTION.                  
YOUR QUESTION.                  
ONE WAS -- WELL, THERE WERE     
ONE WAS -- WELL, THERE WERE     
REALLY THREE THINGS NOTED.      
REALLY THREE THINGS NOTED.      
THE GROUP FELT THAT IT WAS VERY 
THE GROUP FELT THAT IT WAS VERY 
IMPORTANT TO HAVE AN ACTUAL     
IMPORTANT TO HAVE AN ACTUAL     
TARGET.                         
TARGET.                         
WE TALK A LOT ABOUT WANTING TO  
WE TALK A LOT ABOUT WANTING TO  
INCREASE AND HAVE MORE IN       
INCREASE AND HAVE MORE IN       
ASPIRATIONAL TERMS, AND WE      
ASPIRATIONAL TERMS, AND WE      
WANTED TO BE MORE METRICS       
WANTED TO BE MORE METRICS       
DRIVEN.                         
DRIVEN.                         
SO THEY SPENT SOME TIME, THERE  
SO THEY SPENT SOME TIME, THERE  
WAS A BREAKOUT GROUP THAT       
WAS A BREAKOUT GROUP THAT       
FOCUSED ON THIS AND THEY SPENT  
FOCUSED ON THIS AND THEY SPENT  
SOME TIME UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE
SOME TIME UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE
PRODUCTION NUMBERS WERE         
PRODUCTION NUMBERS WERE         
CURRENTLY AND HAD BEEN          
CURRENTLY AND HAD BEEN          
HISTORICALLY.                   
HISTORICALLY.                   
AND THEY USED THAT AS THE       
AND THEY USED THAT AS THE       
BASELINE.                       
BASELINE.                       
AS I SAID AND KIND OF ROLLING   
AS I SAID AND KIND OF ROLLING   
THIS UP SOMEWHAT HIGH LEVEL BUT 
THIS UP SOMEWHAT HIGH LEVEL BUT 
THE CITY THROUGH CITY SUPPORT   
THE CITY THROUGH CITY SUPPORT   
FUNCTIONS WHERE THE CITY IS A   
FUNCTIONS WHERE THE CITY IS A   
PARTY TO OR A PASS-THROUGH, HAS 
PARTY TO OR A PASS-THROUGH, HAS 
TYPICALLY RESULTED IN ABOUT 900 
TYPICALLY RESULTED IN ABOUT 900 
ADDITIONAL UNITS PER YEAR.      
ADDITIONAL UNITS PER YEAR.      
THAT BEING SINGLE-FAMILY HOME   
THAT BEING SINGLE-FAMILY HOME   
AND RENTAL.                     
AND RENTAL.                     
AND THAT'S BEFORE THE INFILL    
AND THAT'S BEFORE THE INFILL    
PROJECT CAME ONLINE.            
PROJECT CAME ONLINE.            
SO THE CHALLENGE WAS, WELL, HOW 
SO THE CHALLENGE WAS, WELL, HOW 
MANY MORE COULD WE DO BOTH FROM 
MANY MORE COULD WE DO BOTH FROM 
THE CITY SUPPORT SERVICES, BUT  
THE CITY SUPPORT SERVICES, BUT  
IN ADDITION TO IF WE WERE VERY  
IN ADDITION TO IF WE WERE VERY  
EFFECTIVE AT INFLUENCING PRIVATE
EFFECTIVE AT INFLUENCING PRIVATE
DEVELOPMENT IN SOME OF THE WAYS 
DEVELOPMENT IN SOME OF THE WAYS 
THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN TALKING     
THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN TALKING     
ABOUT THROUGH CODE REVISIONS,   
ABOUT THROUGH CODE REVISIONS,   
THROUGH DRIVING COSTS DOWN,     
THROUGH DRIVING COSTS DOWN,     
THROUGH PROVIDING NEW           
THROUGH PROVIDING NEW           
OPPORTUNITIES FOR TINY HOMES AND
OPPORTUNITIES FOR TINY HOMES AND
OTHER MATTERS, HOW COULD WE HELP
OTHER MATTERS, HOW COULD WE HELP
DRIVE THE ECONOMICS OF IT TO    
DRIVE THE ECONOMICS OF IT TO    
MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE TO THE  
MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE TO THE  
PRIVATE SECTOR, AND THEN COUNT  
PRIVATE SECTOR, AND THEN COUNT  
THAT AS ADDITIONS TO OUR        
THAT AS ADDITIONS TO OUR        
COMMUNITY.                      
COMMUNITY.                      
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THROUGH A     
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THROUGH A     
VARIETY OF -- THE IDEA WAS CAN  
VARIETY OF -- THE IDEA WAS CAN  
YOU DOUBLE THE NUMBER?          
YOU DOUBLE THE NUMBER?          
THAT SEEMS SOMEWHAT AMBITIOUS.  
THAT SEEMS SOMEWHAT AMBITIOUS.  
SO RESULTING IN THE 350 MORE A  
SO RESULTING IN THE 350 MORE A  
YEAR FELT LIKE IT WAS           
YEAR FELT LIKE IT WAS           
REASONABLE.                     
REASONABLE.                     
IT WAS AMBITIOUS, BUT           
IT WAS AMBITIOUS, BUT           
ACHIEVABLE.                     
ACHIEVABLE.                     
AND THAT WAS ABOUT A 38%        
AND THAT WAS ABOUT A 38%        
INCREASE.                       
INCREASE.                       
SO IF I RECALL THE CONVERSATION,
SO IF I RECALL THE CONVERSATION,
FOLKS WERE WANTING TO TRY TO SAY
FOLKS WERE WANTING TO TRY TO SAY
COULD WE GET 50% MORE AND THAT  
COULD WE GET 50% MORE AND THAT  
SEEMED LIKE A STRETCH.          
SEEMED LIKE A STRETCH.          
WE ENDED UP SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 30
WE ENDED UP SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 30
AND 40 PERCENT.                 
AND 40 PERCENT.                 
TO SOME EXTENT, IT'S A GOOD     
TO SOME EXTENT, IT'S A GOOD     
ROUND NUMBER.                   
ROUND NUMBER.                   
AND NOT TO MAKE THAT ARBITRARY, 
AND NOT TO MAKE THAT ARBITRARY, 
THERE WAS A GOOD AMOUNT OF      
THERE WAS A GOOD AMOUNT OF      
DISCUSSION INVOLVES.            
DISCUSSION INVOLVES.            
THE BASIS WAS, WHAT ARE WE DOING
THE BASIS WAS, WHAT ARE WE DOING
NOW AND HAVE TYPICALLY DONE,    
NOW AND HAVE TYPICALLY DONE,    
HISTORICALLY DONE, AND HOW      
HISTORICALLY DONE, AND HOW      
CONFIDENT ARE WE THAT WE CAN ADD
CONFIDENT ARE WE THAT WE CAN ADD
TO THAT AT NOT JUST A FIVE OR   
TO THAT AT NOT JUST A FIVE OR   
TEN PERCENT REACH, BUT MORE LIKE
TEN PERCENT REACH, BUT MORE LIKE
30, 40 PERCENT REACH, SO THAT'S 
30, 40 PERCENT REACH, SO THAT'S 
WHERE THE GROUP ENDED UP.       
WHERE THE GROUP ENDED UP.       
THAT'S WHERE THE 10,000 COMES   
THAT'S WHERE THE 10,000 COMES   
FROM.                           
FROM.                           
IT WOULD JUMP FROM AN AVERAGE OF
IT WOULD JUMP FROM AN AVERAGE OF
ABOUT 900 A YEAR TO ABOUT 1,250 
ABOUT 900 A YEAR TO ABOUT 1,250 
A YEAR.                         
A YEAR.                         
AS I SAID BEFORE, IT WILL NOT   
AS I SAID BEFORE, IT WILL NOT   
SOLVE EVERY ISSUE, BUT IT DOES  
SOLVE EVERY ISSUE, BUT IT DOES  
GIVE US A NEW BAR TO STRIVE FOR 
GIVE US A NEW BAR TO STRIVE FOR 
AND A SPECIFIC MEASURABLE TARGET
AND A SPECIFIC MEASURABLE TARGET
TO TRY TO ACHIEVE.              
TO TRY TO ACHIEVE.              
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.   
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.   
YOU BROUGHT UP -- ONE LAST      
YOU BROUGHT UP -- ONE LAST      
QUESTION.                       
QUESTION.                       
I APOLOGIZE, MR. CHAIRMAN.      
I APOLOGIZE, MR. CHAIRMAN.      
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.   
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S REALLY  
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S REALLY  
PROBABLY THE BIGGEST QUESTION,  
PROBABLY THE BIGGEST QUESTION,  
WHICH IS ABOUT FUNDING AND ABOUT
WHICH IS ABOUT FUNDING AND ABOUT
A SUSTAINABLE FUNDING MECHANISM.
A SUSTAINABLE FUNDING MECHANISM.
AGAIN, WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT 
AGAIN, WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT 
IT A YEAR AGO IN REGARD TO      
IT A YEAR AGO IN REGARD TO      
AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND,  
AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND,  
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVEN'T    
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVEN'T    
GONE VERY FAR IN TERMS OF       
GONE VERY FAR IN TERMS OF       
FINDING A SUSTAINABLE SOURCE OF 
FINDING A SUSTAINABLE SOURCE OF 
MONEY.                          
MONEY.                          
YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE RELY ON     
YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE RELY ON     
FEDERAL FUNDS AND WE PASS THEM  
FEDERAL FUNDS AND WE PASS THEM  
THROUGH TO VARIOUS PROJECTS, AND
THROUGH TO VARIOUS PROJECTS, AND
WE DO A GOOD JOB AS THE         
WE DO A GOOD JOB AS THE         
PASS-THROUGH AGENT.             
PASS-THROUGH AGENT.             
WE DON'T REALLY GENERATE HARDLY 
WE DON'T REALLY GENERATE HARDLY 
ANYTHING IN TERMS OF CASH       
ANYTHING IN TERMS OF CASH       
OURSELVES, LOCALLY, TO ADDRESS  
OURSELVES, LOCALLY, TO ADDRESS  
THIS ISSUE.                     
THIS ISSUE.                     
I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THE    
I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THE    
IRONY THAT WHEN WE HAVE A       
IRONY THAT WHEN WE HAVE A       
FLOODING PROBLEM ALL OVER THE   
FLOODING PROBLEM ALL OVER THE   
CITY, WE CREATE A STORMWATER FEE
CITY, WE CREATE A STORMWATER FEE
AND WE ADDRESS IT.              
AND WE ADDRESS IT.              
WE HAVE A WATER PIPES PROBLEM   
WE HAVE A WATER PIPES PROBLEM   
AND A SEWER PROBLEM --          
AND A SEWER PROBLEM --          
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE      
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE      
SILENCE.                        
SILENCE.                        
WHOEVER'S PHONE IS GOING OFF, IF
WHOEVER'S PHONE IS GOING OFF, IF
THEY CAN HIT THAT SLIDE BUTTON. 
THEY CAN HIT THAT SLIDE BUTTON. 
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYWAY, WHEN 
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYWAY, WHEN 
WE HAVE A STORMWATER PROBLEM WE 
WE HAVE A STORMWATER PROBLEM WE 
ADDRESS WITH THE STORMWATER FEE,
ADDRESS WITH THE STORMWATER FEE,
WE HAVE WATER AND SEWER PROBLEM,
WE HAVE WATER AND SEWER PROBLEM,
WE ADDRESS IT WITH A BIG        
WE ADDRESS IT WITH A BIG        
INCREASE IN SEWER AND WATER     
INCREASE IN SEWER AND WATER     
FEES, AND WE CALL IT PIPES.     
FEES, AND WE CALL IT PIPES.     
WE HAVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING   
WE HAVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING   
CRISIS THAT'S ONLY GOING TO GET 
CRISIS THAT'S ONLY GOING TO GET 
WORSE.                          
WORSE.                          
AND CAROLE, YOUR NUMBERS ARE    
AND CAROLE, YOUR NUMBERS ARE    
PROBABLY CONSERVATIVE, BUT WE   
PROBABLY CONSERVATIVE, BUT WE   
APPRECIATE THEM.                
APPRECIATE THEM.                
BUT DEVELOPING A LONG-TERM      
BUT DEVELOPING A LONG-TERM      
SUSTAINABLE APPROACH TO FUNDING 
SUSTAINABLE APPROACH TO FUNDING 
THIS.                           
THIS.                           
I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THAT THE 
I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THAT THE 
TASK FORCE MUST HAVE ADDRESSED  
TASK FORCE MUST HAVE ADDRESSED  
THIS AS WELL.                   
THIS AS WELL.                   
I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE   
I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE   
OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OVER THE
OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OVER THE
NEXT YEAR IS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT 
NEXT YEAR IS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT 
THAT IS.                        
THAT IS.                        
I KNOW THE COUNTY CAME UP WITH  
I KNOW THE COUNTY CAME UP WITH  
THEIR OWN AND IDENTIFIED $10    
THEIR OWN AND IDENTIFIED $10    
MILLION OF COUNTY MONEY, AND    
MILLION OF COUNTY MONEY, AND    
THEY ARE GOING TO SHARE A LITTLE
THEY ARE GOING TO SHARE A LITTLE
BIT OF THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT     
BIT OF THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT     
SUSTAINABLE FOR THE CITY.       
SUSTAINABLE FOR THE CITY.       
SO I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER      
SO I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER      
TODAY.                          
TODAY.                          
BUT I DO HAVE THAT REALLY       
BUT I DO HAVE THAT REALLY       
IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT I THINK 
IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT I THINK 
WE NEED TO START WORKING ON     
WE NEED TO START WORKING ON     
TODAY AND CONTINUE WORKING ON   
TODAY AND CONTINUE WORKING ON   
UNTIL WE ANSWER IT.             
UNTIL WE ANSWER IT.             
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
CAROLE, THAT'S A QUESTION.      
CAROLE, THAT'S A QUESTION.      
>>CAROLE POST: I APPRECIATE IT. 
>>CAROLE POST: I APPRECIATE IT. 
I WOULD RESPOND LIKE YOU, WE    
I WOULD RESPOND LIKE YOU, WE    
DON'T HAVE A MAGIC ANSWER FOR IT
DON'T HAVE A MAGIC ANSWER FOR IT
TODAY.                          
TODAY.                          
I THINK WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO     
I THINK WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO     
REFLECT ON IS THAT THERE IS NO  
REFLECT ON IS THAT THERE IS NO  
SINGLE ANSWER.                  
SINGLE ANSWER.                  
THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT AVENUES
THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT AVENUES
TO TRY TO DRIVE SOLUTIONS HERE. 
TO TRY TO DRIVE SOLUTIONS HERE. 
FRANKLY, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE   
FRANKLY, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE   
AND FROM THE MAYOR DOWN, THERE'S
AND FROM THE MAYOR DOWN, THERE'S
NOTHING OFF THE TABLE.          
NOTHING OFF THE TABLE.          
WE'RE OPEN TO ANY IDEAS, ALL    
WE'RE OPEN TO ANY IDEAS, ALL    
IDEAS, ALL DISCUSSIONS.         
IDEAS, ALL DISCUSSIONS.         
AND WHAT WE'VE PRESENTED TODAY  
AND WHAT WE'VE PRESENTED TODAY  
IS CERTAINLY NOT THE END OF OUR 
IS CERTAINLY NOT THE END OF OUR 
GAME PLAN.                      
GAME PLAN.                      
IT IS ON A EVOLVING AND GROWING 
IT IS ON A EVOLVING AND GROWING 
AND CONSTANTLY SHIFTING PLAN    
AND CONSTANTLY SHIFTING PLAN    
THAT WE WILL TAKE ALL INPUTS AND
THAT WE WILL TAKE ALL INPUTS AND
SUGGESTIONS FOR.                
SUGGESTIONS FOR.                
I WOULD EMPHASIZE, THOUGH, AND  
I WOULD EMPHASIZE, THOUGH, AND  
IF VANESSA WANTS TO JUMP IN, IN 
IF VANESSA WANTS TO JUMP IN, IN 
TERMS OF BEING THE CONDUIT FOR  
TERMS OF BEING THE CONDUIT FOR  
FUNDS THAT WE'RE VERY EFFECTIVE 
FUNDS THAT WE'RE VERY EFFECTIVE 
AT AND THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY    
AT AND THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY    
SEEKING TO GET MORE AND HAVE A  
SEEKING TO GET MORE AND HAVE A  
GREATER POT TO BE ABLE TO       
GREATER POT TO BE ABLE TO       
DISTRIBUTE.                     
DISTRIBUTE.                     
BUT WE VERY MUCH FEEL LIKE WE   
BUT WE VERY MUCH FEEL LIKE WE   
CAN ALSO INFLUENCE THAT PRIVATE 
CAN ALSO INFLUENCE THAT PRIVATE 
SECTOR AND TRY TO CREATE A      
SECTOR AND TRY TO CREATE A      
MARKET ECONOMIC STRUCTURE THAT  
MARKET ECONOMIC STRUCTURE THAT  
WILL INCENTIVIZE AND CREATE A   
WILL INCENTIVIZE AND CREATE A   
MORE APPEALING ECONOMIC DYNAMIC 
MORE APPEALING ECONOMIC DYNAMIC 
FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO HELP  
FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO HELP  
SOLVE THIS AS WELL.             
SOLVE THIS AS WELL.             
BY DRIVING COSTS DOWN, BY       
BY DRIVING COSTS DOWN, BY       
INCENTIVIZING, BY TAKING OUT    
INCENTIVIZING, BY TAKING OUT    
SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT   
SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT   
ARE CURRENTLY PART OF           
ARE CURRENTLY PART OF           
DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING AS      
DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING AS      
VANESSA RAN THROUGH THE LAUNDRY 
VANESSA RAN THROUGH THE LAUNDRY 
LIST.                           
LIST.                           
WE THINK THERE ARE MANY PATHS   
WE THINK THERE ARE MANY PATHS   
HERE AND WELCOME ALL INPUT.     
HERE AND WELCOME ALL INPUT.     
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: I WANT TO   
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: I WANT TO   
ADD THAT WE WERE EXPLORING CITY 
ADD THAT WE WERE EXPLORING CITY 
FUNDING SOURCES FOR AFFORDABLE  
FUNDING SOURCES FOR AFFORDABLE  
HOUSING, AND THEN WE GOT HIT    
HOUSING, AND THEN WE GOT HIT    
WITH COVID.                     
WITH COVID.                     
I THINK THAT KIND OF DERAILED   
I THINK THAT KIND OF DERAILED   
OUR EFFORTS ON THAT FRONT.      
OUR EFFORTS ON THAT FRONT.      
WE HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES RIGHT
WE HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES RIGHT
NOW THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH,   
NOW THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH,   
AND I LOVE MONEY, BUT I CAN SAY 
AND I LOVE MONEY, BUT I CAN SAY 
RIGHT NOW I DON'T LOVE MONEY.   
RIGHT NOW I DON'T LOVE MONEY.   
WE HAVE A LOT OF CARES ACT      
WE HAVE A LOT OF CARES ACT      
FUNDING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO   
FUNDING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO   
DEPLOY, AND I DEFINITELY BELIEVE
DEPLOY, AND I DEFINITELY BELIEVE
THAT WE NEED A CITY FUNDING     
THAT WE NEED A CITY FUNDING     
SOURCE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING,  
SOURCE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING,  
JUST NOT RIGHT NOW.             
JUST NOT RIGHT NOW.             
UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE A LOT OF 
UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE A LOT OF 
WORK WE NEED TO DO WITH THE     
WORK WE NEED TO DO WITH THE     
COVID RELIEF EFFORTS THAT'S     
COVID RELIEF EFFORTS THAT'S     
GOING TO TAKE US A LITTLE WHILE 
GOING TO TAKE US A LITTLE WHILE 
TO MAKE SURE WE SPEND DOWN THE  
TO MAKE SURE WE SPEND DOWN THE  
RESOURCES THAT ARE COMING INTO  
RESOURCES THAT ARE COMING INTO  
THE COMMUNITY.                  
THE COMMUNITY.                  
BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.    
BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.    
WE DO NEED TO DO SOMETHING.     
WE DO NEED TO DO SOMETHING.     
AND WE WILL GET BACK TO THAT.   
AND WE WILL GET BACK TO THAT.   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU,   
>>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU,   
MR. CHAIRMAN.                   
MR. CHAIRMAN.                   
THANK YOU, STAFF.               
THANK YOU, STAFF.               
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP,    
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP,    
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND      
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND      
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.           
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.           
REMEMBER, THERE IS ANOTHER      
REMEMBER, THERE IS ANOTHER      
PowerPoint AFTER THIS.          
PowerPoint AFTER THIS.          
>>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ECHO  
>>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ECHO  
MANY OF THE THINGS MY COLLEAGUES
MANY OF THE THINGS MY COLLEAGUES
SAID ABOUT GETTING A FUNDING    
SAID ABOUT GETTING A FUNDING    
SOURCE AND ALSO FOCUSING ON     
SOURCE AND ALSO FOCUSING ON     
WORKFORCE HOUSING AND OTHER     
WORKFORCE HOUSING AND OTHER     
KINDS OF HOUSING.               
KINDS OF HOUSING.               
THE TAMPA CHAMBER AND OTHERS    
THE TAMPA CHAMBER AND OTHERS    
HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A 
HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A 
LONG TIME AND WE HAVE A PROBLEM 
LONG TIME AND WE HAVE A PROBLEM 
BECAUSE AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE    
BECAUSE AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE    
HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AFFECTS   
HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AFFECTS   
TRANSPORTATION, TRAFFIC JAMS AND
TRANSPORTATION, TRAFFIC JAMS AND
OTHER ISSUES WE FACE, TOO.      
OTHER ISSUES WE FACE, TOO.      
IN PARTICULAR, I WANT TO THANK  
IN PARTICULAR, I WANT TO THANK  
MS. POST AND MS. McCLEARY AND   
MS. POST AND MS. McCLEARY AND   
ALL YOUR STAFF FOR THE HARD WORK
ALL YOUR STAFF FOR THE HARD WORK
ON THIS.                        
ON THIS.                        
VERY IMPRESSIVE PRESENTATION.   
VERY IMPRESSIVE PRESENTATION.   
THANK YOU FOR THE THOROUGHNESS  
THANK YOU FOR THE THOROUGHNESS  
OF THIS.                        
OF THIS.                        
YOU ALL KNOW THIS HAS BEEN AN   
YOU ALL KNOW THIS HAS BEEN AN   
ISSUE FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL     
ISSUE FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL     
SINCE I THINK THE FIRST OR      
SINCE I THINK THE FIRST OR      
SECOND MEETING THAT WE HAD.     
SECOND MEETING THAT WE HAD.     
THE COMMUNITY CAME BEFORE US IN 
THE COMMUNITY CAME BEFORE US IN 
LARGE NUMBERS, AND WE'VE HAD,   
LARGE NUMBERS, AND WE'VE HAD,   
MS. McCLEARY AND OTHERS COME    
MS. McCLEARY AND OTHERS COME    
BEFORE US AND TALK ABOUT IT.    
BEFORE US AND TALK ABOUT IT.    
WE LOOK FORWARD TO ROLLING UP   
WE LOOK FORWARD TO ROLLING UP   
OUR SLEEVES AND PARTNERING WITH 
OUR SLEEVES AND PARTNERING WITH 
YOU ON THIS.                    
YOU ON THIS.                    
SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE
SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE
-- FIRST OF ALL, THE SHORTAGE OF
-- FIRST OF ALL, THE SHORTAGE OF
HOUSING, THE QUALITY OF HOUSING,
HOUSING, THE QUALITY OF HOUSING,
THE LACK OF ACCESSIBILITY OR    
THE LACK OF ACCESSIBILITY OR    
COMMUNICATION.                  
COMMUNICATION.                  
THERE WERE MANY PRIVATE SECTOR  
THERE WERE MANY PRIVATE SECTOR  
VENDORS, CONTRACTORS, AND OTHERS
VENDORS, CONTRACTORS, AND OTHERS
WHO COMPLAINED AND SAID THAT    
WHO COMPLAINED AND SAID THAT    
THEY THOUGHT THE RFP PROCESS WAS
THEY THOUGHT THE RFP PROCESS WAS
NOT FAIR, AND PROBABLY THE WORST
NOT FAIR, AND PROBABLY THE WORST
EXAMPLE OF ALL WAS WHAT IS NOW  
EXAMPLE OF ALL WAS WHAT IS NOW  
CALLED THE WEST RIVER, WHERE    
CALLED THE WEST RIVER, WHERE    
THERE WERE NOT ONLY COMPLAINTS  
THERE WERE NOT ONLY COMPLAINTS  
ABOUT HOW THE RFP WAS HANDLED   
ABOUT HOW THE RFP WAS HANDLED   
BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT SO MANY  
BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT SO MANY  
PEOPLE WERE DISPLACED WITH NO   
PEOPLE WERE DISPLACED WITH NO   
HOUSING ALIGNED FOR THEM TO MOVE
HOUSING ALIGNED FOR THEM TO MOVE
INTO.                           
INTO.                           
MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY    
MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY    
CALLED IT THE WHITEWASHING OF   
CALLED IT THE WHITEWASHING OF   
TAMPA AND STILL THE NUMBER OF   
TAMPA AND STILL THE NUMBER OF   
HOUSES THAT ARE GOING TO BE     
HOUSES THAT ARE GOING TO BE     
AFFORDABLE, GOING BACK THERE ARE
AFFORDABLE, GOING BACK THERE ARE
A SMALL NUMBER COMPARED TO THE  
A SMALL NUMBER COMPARED TO THE  
ONES TAKEN AWAY, WHICH REALLY   
ONES TAKEN AWAY, WHICH REALLY   
FORCED A LOT OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE  
FORCED A LOT OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE  
THE CITY LIMITS.                
THE CITY LIMITS.                
THE BOTTOM LINE, IT SEEMS LIKE  
THE BOTTOM LINE, IT SEEMS LIKE  
YOU HAVE ADDRESSED ALL OF THESE 
YOU HAVE ADDRESSED ALL OF THESE 
ISSUES AND MORE, AND YOU'RE     
ISSUES AND MORE, AND YOU'RE     
LOOKING DILIGENTLY AND TRYING TO
LOOKING DILIGENTLY AND TRYING TO
RESOLVE THIS, AND I THINK IT'S A
RESOLVE THIS, AND I THINK IT'S A
GOOD PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE    
GOOD PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE    
ADMINISTRATION AND CITY COUNCIL 
ADMINISTRATION AND CITY COUNCIL 
AND THE COMMUNITY.              
AND THE COMMUNITY.              
SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO DOING IT. 
SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO DOING IT. 
MY BIG QUESTION, SIMILAR TO WHAT
MY BIG QUESTION, SIMILAR TO WHAT
OTHERS HAVE ASKED, AND I        
OTHERS HAVE ASKED, AND I        
REMEMBER, MR. DINGFELDER, YOU   
REMEMBER, MR. DINGFELDER, YOU   
CAN CORRECT US LATER, I REMEMBER
CAN CORRECT US LATER, I REMEMBER
YOU MENTIONING A NUMBER LIKE    
YOU MENTIONING A NUMBER LIKE    
10,000 OR SOMETHING WHEN YOU    
10,000 OR SOMETHING WHEN YOU    
WERE RUNNING FOR OFFICE OR ONE  
WERE RUNNING FOR OFFICE OR ONE  
OF THE FIRST MEETINGS WE HAD,   
OF THE FIRST MEETINGS WE HAD,   
THE HEAD OF THE HOUSING         
THE HEAD OF THE HOUSING         
AUTHORITY CAME BEFORE US A FEW  
AUTHORITY CAME BEFORE US A FEW  
MONTHS AGO AND SAID THE STATED  
MONTHS AGO AND SAID THE STATED  
NUMBER OF SHORTAGE TODAY IS     
NUMBER OF SHORTAGE TODAY IS     
25,000.                         
25,000.                         
AND HE SAID THE REAL NUMBER IS  
AND HE SAID THE REAL NUMBER IS  
PROBABLY 50,000.                
PROBABLY 50,000.                
SO THE QUESTION IS, WE'RE NOT --
SO THE QUESTION IS, WE'RE NOT --
WE AND ALL OF THESE AGENCIES ARE
WE AND ALL OF THESE AGENCIES ARE
NOT EVEN GOING TO GET CLOSE TO  
NOT EVEN GOING TO GET CLOSE TO  
THIS NUMBER TO MEET THE DEMAND  
THIS NUMBER TO MEET THE DEMAND  
TODAY, MUCH LESS THE DEMAND     
TODAY, MUCH LESS THE DEMAND     
TOMORROW.                       
TOMORROW.                       
WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS ECONOMIC  
WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS ECONOMIC  
SITUATION IS GOING TO FORCE MORE
SITUATION IS GOING TO FORCE MORE
PEOPLE INTO HOMELESSNESS OVER   
PEOPLE INTO HOMELESSNESS OVER   
THE NEXT YEAR.                  
THE NEXT YEAR.                  
WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT?       
WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT?       
DO PEOPLE JUST HAVE TO MOVE OUT 
DO PEOPLE JUST HAVE TO MOVE OUT 
OF THE CITY?                    
OF THE CITY?                    
DO THEY SUBLET SPACE TO         
DO THEY SUBLET SPACE TO         
FAMILIES?                       
FAMILIES?                       
HOW DO WE ADDRESS THE CURRENT   
HOW DO WE ADDRESS THE CURRENT   
SHORTAGE AND WHAT IF WE HAVE    
SHORTAGE AND WHAT IF WE HAVE    
10,000 MORE PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR 
10,000 MORE PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR 
HOMES IN THE NEXT YEAR?         
HOMES IN THE NEXT YEAR?         
HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT.         
HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT.         
THANK YOU, EVERYONE.            
THANK YOU, EVERYONE.            
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.           
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.           
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: IN RESPONSE 
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: IN RESPONSE 
TO THAT, THIS IS VANESSA        
TO THAT, THIS IS VANESSA        
McCLEARY AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE   
McCLEARY AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE   
HAVE BEEN SO FOCUSED ON         
HAVE BEEN SO FOCUSED ON         
INCENTIVIZING THE FOR-PROFIT    
INCENTIVIZING THE FOR-PROFIT    
COMMUNITY TO GET INVOLVED IN THE
COMMUNITY TO GET INVOLVED IN THE
NEED FOR WORKFORCE AND          
NEED FOR WORKFORCE AND          
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.             
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.             
WE'RE TACKLING THAT FROM TWO    
WE'RE TACKLING THAT FROM TWO    
FRONTS.                         
FRONTS.                         
WE ARE TALKING TO THE LARGE     
WE ARE TALKING TO THE LARGE     
CONTRACTORS ABOUT HOW THEY CAN  
CONTRACTORS ABOUT HOW THEY CAN  
SUPPORT THE EFFORT, HOW THEY CAN
SUPPORT THE EFFORT, HOW THEY CAN
INCLUDE AFFORDABLE UNITS IN     
INCLUDE AFFORDABLE UNITS IN     
THEIR DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL AS   
THEIR DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL AS   
TALKING WITH BUSINESSES AND     
TALKING WITH BUSINESSES AND     
POINTING OUT TO THEM, IT'S YOUR 
POINTING OUT TO THEM, IT'S YOUR 
WORKFORCE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO  
WORKFORCE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO  
HOUSE, AND THE IMPORTANCE FOR   
HOUSE, AND THE IMPORTANCE FOR   
THEIR BOTTOM LINE IN HELPING US 
THEIR BOTTOM LINE IN HELPING US 
TO HOUSE THEIR WORKFORCE.       
TO HOUSE THEIR WORKFORCE.       
SO BY GETTING THE BUSINESS      
SO BY GETTING THE BUSINESS      
COMMUNITY, GETTING THE PRIVATE  
COMMUNITY, GETTING THE PRIVATE  
SECTOR INVOLVED IN THIS EFFORT  
SECTOR INVOLVED IN THIS EFFORT  
IS THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO  
IS THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO  
MEET THAT NUMBER.               
MEET THAT NUMBER.               
GOVERNMENT CAN'T DO IT ON ITS   
GOVERNMENT CAN'T DO IT ON ITS   
OWN.                            
OWN.                            
SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT MORE OF OUR 
SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT MORE OF OUR 
EFFORTS, PUSHING INFORMATION OUT
EFFORTS, PUSHING INFORMATION OUT
TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO GET    
TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO GET    
THEM MORE INVOLVED.             
THEM MORE INVOLVED.             
AND WE HAVE SEEN, EYES ARE BEING
AND WE HAVE SEEN, EYES ARE BEING
OPENED AND WE'RE GETTING MORE   
OPENED AND WE'RE GETTING MORE   
RESPONSES FROM THE PRIVATE      
RESPONSES FROM THE PRIVATE      
SECTOR ASKING HOW THEY CAN BE   
SECTOR ASKING HOW THEY CAN BE   
SUPPORTIVE.                     
SUPPORTIVE.                     
SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE FORUMS
SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE FORUMS
LIKE OUR VIRTUAL EVENT TO SHOW  
LIKE OUR VIRTUAL EVENT TO SHOW  
THEM THE DIFFERENT PATHS THEY   
THEM THE DIFFERENT PATHS THEY   
CAN USE TO EFFECT MORE HOUSING  
CAN USE TO EFFECT MORE HOUSING  
AFFORDABILITY.                  
AFFORDABILITY.                  
>>BILL CARLSON: ONE MORE QUICK  
>>BILL CARLSON: ONE MORE QUICK  
NOTE.                           
NOTE.                           
EVERYONE I TALKED TO WHEN I     
EVERYONE I TALKED TO WHEN I     
JOINED CITY COUNCIL, EVERYONE I 
JOINED CITY COUNCIL, EVERYONE I 
TALKED TO IN THE FIELD SAID THAT
TALKED TO IN THE FIELD SAID THAT
MS. McCLEARY IS TOP-NOTCH AND   
MS. McCLEARY IS TOP-NOTCH AND   
VERY WELL RESPECTED IN THE      
VERY WELL RESPECTED IN THE      
INDUSTRY AND I APPRECIATE HER   
INDUSTRY AND I APPRECIATE HER   
STAYING ON THROUGH THIS WHOLE   
STAYING ON THROUGH THIS WHOLE   
TRANSITION.                     
TRANSITION.                     
AND WHAT I'VE SEEN              
AND WHAT I'VE SEEN              
ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE IS THEY 
ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE IS THEY 
PULLED SOME EXCELLENT PEOPLE    
PULLED SOME EXCELLENT PEOPLE    
OUT, MIKE MS. McCLEARY AND      
OUT, MIKE MS. McCLEARY AND      
GIVEN THEM MORE RESOURCES, WHICH
GIVEN THEM MORE RESOURCES, WHICH
IS WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO A     
IS WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO A     
BETTER JOB.                     
BETTER JOB.                     
THANK YOU, MS. McCLEARY AND     
THANK YOU, MS. McCLEARY AND     
THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION 
THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION 
FOR SUPPORTING.                 
FOR SUPPORTING.                 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SECOND    
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SECOND    
THAT, SIR.                      
THAT, SIR.                      
COUNCILMAN VIERA.               
COUNCILMAN VIERA.               
>>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR.    
>>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR.    
CHAIR.                          
CHAIR.                          
I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR.         
I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR.         
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SOME BRIEF
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SOME BRIEF
REMARKS.                        
REMARKS.                        
A LOT OF ISSUES HAVE BEEN TAKEN 
A LOT OF ISSUES HAVE BEEN TAKEN 
UP AND SPOKEN ABOUT VERY        
UP AND SPOKEN ABOUT VERY        
ELOQUENTLY.                     
ELOQUENTLY.                     
IT'S A PIVOTAL ISSUE.           
IT'S A PIVOTAL ISSUE.           
IT'S WHAT YOU CALL A BREAD AND  
IT'S WHAT YOU CALL A BREAD AND  
BUTTER ISSUE FOR WORKING        
BUTTER ISSUE FOR WORKING        
FAMILIES.                       
FAMILIES.                       
AS EVERYBODY HAD SAID, I SALUTE 
AS EVERYBODY HAD SAID, I SALUTE 
THE ADMINISTRATION.             
THE ADMINISTRATION.             
I SALUTE THE MAYOR AND HER      
I SALUTE THE MAYOR AND HER      
WONDERFUL STAFF FOR MAKING THIS 
WONDERFUL STAFF FOR MAKING THIS 
INTO A MAJOR ISSUE.             
INTO A MAJOR ISSUE.             
LIKE I SAID LAST WEEK, AGAIN, I 
LIKE I SAID LAST WEEK, AGAIN, I 
SALUTE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS.     
SALUTE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS.     
ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS CARE A GREAT
ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS CARE A GREAT
DEAL ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND ARE   
DEAL ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND ARE   
PASSIONATE.                     
PASSIONATE.                     
AGAIN, LIKE IT DID LAST WEEK, I 
AGAIN, LIKE IT DID LAST WEEK, I 
THINK IT'S PROPER TO SINGLE OUT 
THINK IT'S PROPER TO SINGLE OUT 
DINGFELDER, CARLSON, AND GUDES  
DINGFELDER, CARLSON, AND GUDES  
FOR JUST CONTINUALLY PUSHING    
FOR JUST CONTINUALLY PUSHING    
THIS ISSUE, BY ALWAYS BELIEVING 
THIS ISSUE, BY ALWAYS BELIEVING 
-- I ALWAYS BELIEVE IN GIVING   
-- I ALWAYS BELIEVE IN GIVING   
CREDIT.                         
CREDIT.                         
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, SO I    
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, SO I    
SALUTE THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS.   
SALUTE THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS.   
WE KNOW THAT THE BOTTOM HAS     
WE KNOW THAT THE BOTTOM HAS     
FALLEN OUT OF OUR ECONOMY.      
FALLEN OUT OF OUR ECONOMY.      
WHEN I LOOK AT THIS ISSUE OF    
WHEN I LOOK AT THIS ISSUE OF    
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I SEE IT IN 
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I SEE IT IN 
THE CONTEXT OF OUR LARGER       
THE CONTEXT OF OUR LARGER       
ECONOMY, THE OTHER ISSUES THAT  
ECONOMY, THE OTHER ISSUES THAT  
THIS TOUCHES.                   
THIS TOUCHES.                   
A LOT OF US TALK ABOUT THE      
A LOT OF US TALK ABOUT THE      
THINGS WE HEARD ON THE CAMPAIGN 
THINGS WE HEARD ON THE CAMPAIGN 
TRAIL AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING WAS
TRAIL AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING WAS
IN CRISIS WHEN UNEMPLOYMENT WAS 
IN CRISIS WHEN UNEMPLOYMENT WAS 
3.5, 4 PERCENT.                 
3.5, 4 PERCENT.                 
WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO FOLKS ON
WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO FOLKS ON
THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.             
THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.             
THINK ABOUT WHEN WE WERE RUNNING
THINK ABOUT WHEN WE WERE RUNNING
FOR OFFICE AND WHAT WE HEARD IN 
FOR OFFICE AND WHAT WE HEARD IN 
SEPTEMBER OF '18, OCTOBER OF    
SEPTEMBER OF '18, OCTOBER OF    
2018, ET CETERA, THOSE STORIES  
2018, ET CETERA, THOSE STORIES  
AT THE TIME WERE REAL.          
AT THE TIME WERE REAL.          
THEY REPRESENTED THE STRUGGLES  
THEY REPRESENTED THE STRUGGLES  
OF FAMILIES AND FOLKS,          
OF FAMILIES AND FOLKS,          
ET CETERA.                      
ET CETERA.                      
AND PEOPLE WHO WERE GOING       
AND PEOPLE WHO WERE GOING       
THROUGH, YOU COULD CALL A       
THROUGH, YOU COULD CALL A       
CATEGORY 3 HURRICANE TWO YEARS  
CATEGORY 3 HURRICANE TWO YEARS  
AGO.                            
AGO.                            
IMAGINE HOW THOSE ECONOMIC      
IMAGINE HOW THOSE ECONOMIC      
HURRICANES ARE FOR THOSE        
HURRICANES ARE FOR THOSE        
FAMILIES NOW TWO YEARS LATER,   
FAMILIES NOW TWO YEARS LATER,   
UNEMPLOYMENT BETWEEN 10 AND 11  
UNEMPLOYMENT BETWEEN 10 AND 11  
PERCENT.                        
PERCENT.                        
THE BOTTOM FALLING OUT OF OUR   
THE BOTTOM FALLING OUT OF OUR   
ECONOMY DUE TO A PANDEMIC.      
ECONOMY DUE TO A PANDEMIC.      
THE HITS THESE FAMILIES TAKE    
THE HITS THESE FAMILIES TAKE    
JUST GETS BIGGER AND BIGGER AND 
JUST GETS BIGGER AND BIGGER AND 
BIGGER.                         
BIGGER.                         
I LIKE THAT THE CITY IS MAKING  
I LIKE THAT THE CITY IS MAKING  
THESE INVESTMENTS AND THESE     
THESE INVESTMENTS AND THESE     
PARTNERSHIPS.                   
PARTNERSHIPS.                   
I LIKE TO SEE THE STATE OF      
I LIKE TO SEE THE STATE OF      
FLORIDA MAKE BETTER INVESTMENTS 
FLORIDA MAKE BETTER INVESTMENTS 
THAT ARE MORE ROBUST AND THE    
THAT ARE MORE ROBUST AND THE    
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, TOO.        
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, TOO.        
WE MAKE INVESTMENTS THROUGH     
WE MAKE INVESTMENTS THROUGH     
PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER         
PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER         
GOVERNMENTS IN THE PRIVATE      
GOVERNMENTS IN THE PRIVATE      
SECTOR AND NUMEROUS ENTITIES.   
SECTOR AND NUMEROUS ENTITIES.   
THE CITY CERTAINLY ISN'T GOING  
THE CITY CERTAINLY ISN'T GOING  
AT IT ALONE.                    
AT IT ALONE.                    
BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY LOOKING TO  
BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY LOOKING TO  
MAKE OUR MARK THROUGH           
MAKE OUR MARK THROUGH           
LEADERSHIP, WHICH IS REALLY     
LEADERSHIP, WHICH IS REALLY     
IMPORTANT.                      
IMPORTANT.                      
AND I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER     
AND I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER     
LARGE ISSUE, WHICH IS OUR       
LARGE ISSUE, WHICH IS OUR       
BUDGET, ON A LARGER ISSUE, THE  
BUDGET, ON A LARGER ISSUE, THE  
BUDGET OF A MUNICIPALITY, A     
BUDGET OF A MUNICIPALITY, A     
BUDGET OF THE GOVERNMENT IN THE 
BUDGET OF THE GOVERNMENT IN THE 
TIME OF ECONOMIC LOSS.          
TIME OF ECONOMIC LOSS.          
IT'S BEEN IN THE MEDIA THAT OUR 
IT'S BEEN IN THE MEDIA THAT OUR 
CITY OF TAMPA BUDGET IS LARGER  
CITY OF TAMPA BUDGET IS LARGER  
THIS YEAR.                      
THIS YEAR.                      
BUT I HAVE A PRINCIPLE, WHICH IS
BUT I HAVE A PRINCIPLE, WHICH IS
THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE HURTING,   
THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE HURTING,   
IT'S THE DUTY OF GOVERNMENT TO  
IT'S THE DUTY OF GOVERNMENT TO  
ACT AND USE THE TOOLS IN        
ACT AND USE THE TOOLS IN        
GOVERNMENT'S TOOLBOX TO HELP    
GOVERNMENT'S TOOLBOX TO HELP    
THOSE HURTING PEOPLE OUT.       
THOSE HURTING PEOPLE OUT.       
WHEN PEOPLE HAVE TO CUT BACK,   
WHEN PEOPLE HAVE TO CUT BACK,   
GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO    
GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO    
CORRESPOND IN THE TOOLS THAT    
CORRESPOND IN THE TOOLS THAT    
HELP THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE      
HELP THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE      
CUTTING BACK.                   
CUTTING BACK.                   
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A POPULAR     
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A POPULAR     
POLITICAL SLOGAN THAT SAYS THE  
POLITICAL SLOGAN THAT SAYS THE  
OPPOSITE, BUT I'VE ALWAYS       
OPPOSITE, BUT I'VE ALWAYS       
RESPECTFULLY DISAGREED.         
RESPECTFULLY DISAGREED.         
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT FRAUD,    
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT FRAUD,    
WASTE, NEEDLESS PROGRAMS,       
WASTE, NEEDLESS PROGRAMS,       
NEEDLESS POSITIONS.             
NEEDLESS POSITIONS.             
I'M TALKING ABOUT PROGRAMS AND  
I'M TALKING ABOUT PROGRAMS AND  
EFFORTS THAT ACTUALLY HELP THOSE
EFFORTS THAT ACTUALLY HELP THOSE
PEOPLE THAT ARE HURTING.        
PEOPLE THAT ARE HURTING.        
AND ONE OF THOSE IS AFFORDABLE  
AND ONE OF THOSE IS AFFORDABLE  
HOUSING.                        
HOUSING.                        
THAT MEANS AFFORDABLE AND       
THAT MEANS AFFORDABLE AND       
QUALITY HOUSING, BOTH WITH      
QUALITY HOUSING, BOTH WITH      
OWNERSHIP AS WELL AS MAKING SURE
OWNERSHIP AS WELL AS MAKING SURE
THAT FOLKS HAVE QUALITY HOUSING.
THAT FOLKS HAVE QUALITY HOUSING.
AND IN ALL AREAS OF THE CITY, AS
AND IN ALL AREAS OF THE CITY, AS
COUNCIL GUDES HAS TALKED ABOUT. 
COUNCIL GUDES HAS TALKED ABOUT. 
TAKE A LOOK AT, FOR EXAMPLE, IN 
TAKE A LOOK AT, FOR EXAMPLE, IN 
NORTH TAMPA, THE TIMBER FALLS   
NORTH TAMPA, THE TIMBER FALLS   
APARTMENTS.                     
APARTMENTS.                     
THEY WERE THE SUBJECT OF THE    
THEY WERE THE SUBJECT OF THE    
ARTICLE IN THE TAMPA BAY TIMES  
ARTICLE IN THE TAMPA BAY TIMES  
BY EMILY MAHONEY, RATS, RODENTS,
BY EMILY MAHONEY, RATS, RODENTS,
AC PROBLEMS BEING ALLEGED.      
AC PROBLEMS BEING ALLEGED.      
WE ALL HAVE TO USE, AS WE'RE    
WE ALL HAVE TO USE, AS WE'RE    
DOING, OUR BULLY PULPIT ON THESE
DOING, OUR BULLY PULPIT ON THESE
ISSUES.                         
ISSUES.                         
SAID A LOT IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS
SAID A LOT IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS
AND MONTHS, WHEN YOU SEE        
AND MONTHS, WHEN YOU SEE        
SOMETHING WRONG, CALL IT OUT.   
SOMETHING WRONG, CALL IT OUT.   
I WAS TALKING TO A FRIEND OF    
I WAS TALKING TO A FRIEND OF    
MINE ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY, THAT 
MINE ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY, THAT 
WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNITIES, WE
WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNITIES, WE
HAVE TO CREATE ON ISSUES LIKE   
HAVE TO CREATE ON ISSUES LIKE   
HOUSING, MORE -- IF YOU KNOW    
HOUSING, MORE -- IF YOU KNOW    
IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE.          
IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE.          
A LOT OF TIMES, THE CITY OF     
A LOT OF TIMES, THE CITY OF     
TAMPA HAS TO SAIL AGAINST THE   
TAMPA HAS TO SAIL AGAINST THE   
WIND, AGAINST THE WIND OF       
WIND, AGAINST THE WIND OF       
NATIONAL TRENDS.                
NATIONAL TRENDS.                
I'M NOT GOING TO NAME NAMES, BUT
I'M NOT GOING TO NAME NAMES, BUT
WE HAVE A CERTAIN NATIONAL      
WE HAVE A CERTAIN NATIONAL      
ELECTED OFFICIAL WHO IS USING   
ELECTED OFFICIAL WHO IS USING   
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE  
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE  
HOUSING, A CONCERN FOR SO MANY  
HOUSING, A CONCERN FOR SO MANY  
WORKING FAMILIES AS A WEDGE     
WORKING FAMILIES AS A WEDGE     
ISSUE.                          
ISSUE.                          
IT'S AMAZING THAT WE ARE HERE IN
IT'S AMAZING THAT WE ARE HERE IN
THE YEAR 2020, WHERE AFFORDABLE 
THE YEAR 2020, WHERE AFFORDABLE 
HOUSING IS BEING USED AS A WEDGE
HOUSING IS BEING USED AS A WEDGE
ISSUE IN THE SUBURBS NATIONALLY.
ISSUE IN THE SUBURBS NATIONALLY.
WE'VE HEARD STATEMENTS ON       
WE'VE HEARD STATEMENTS ON       
AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT I ALWAYS
AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT I ALWAYS
TELL PEOPLE WOULD MAKE GEORGE   
TELL PEOPLE WOULD MAKE GEORGE   
WALLACE AND 1968 BLUSH AND WE'LL
WALLACE AND 1968 BLUSH AND WE'LL
SAIL AGAINST THE WIND ON THAT   
SAIL AGAINST THE WIND ON THAT   
ISSUE IF WE HAVE TO AS A CITY   
ISSUE IF WE HAVE TO AS A CITY   
AND AS A COMMUNITY.             
AND AS A COMMUNITY.             
TIMES ARE TOUGH, AND THEY ARE   
TIMES ARE TOUGH, AND THEY ARE   
CERTAINLY GETTING TOUGHER.      
CERTAINLY GETTING TOUGHER.      
AGAIN, I SEE AFFORDABLE HOUSING 
AGAIN, I SEE AFFORDABLE HOUSING 
AS PART OF A LARGER AGENDA OF   
AS PART OF A LARGER AGENDA OF   
DIGNITY.                        
DIGNITY.                        
LET'S INVEST IN AFFORDABLE      
LET'S INVEST IN AFFORDABLE      
HOUSING.                        
HOUSING.                        
LET'S DO AS WE TALKED ABOUT     
LET'S DO AS WE TALKED ABOUT     
BETTERING OUR LAND USE CODE FOR 
BETTERING OUR LAND USE CODE FOR 
AFFORDABLE HOUSING              
AFFORDABLE HOUSING              
ENCOURAGEMENT.                  
ENCOURAGEMENT.                  
LET'S INVEST IN OUR BUDGET, IN  
LET'S INVEST IN OUR BUDGET, IN  
RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES FOR     
RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES FOR     
FAMILIES AND IN OUR             
FAMILIES AND IN OUR             
INFRASTRUCTURE TO STRENGTHEN THE
INFRASTRUCTURE TO STRENGTHEN THE
TIMES BETWEEN COMMUNITIES AND   
TIMES BETWEEN COMMUNITIES AND   
ALSO PUT PEOPLE BACK TO WORK.   
ALSO PUT PEOPLE BACK TO WORK.   
LET'S ENCOURAGE THROUGH THE     
LET'S ENCOURAGE THROUGH THE     
ENCOURAGEMENT OF APPRENTICESHIPS
ENCOURAGEMENT OF APPRENTICESHIPS
AND OUR CONTACTING PROCESS, A   
AND OUR CONTACTING PROCESS, A   
PIPELINE, NOT TO PRISON, AS     
PIPELINE, NOT TO PRISON, AS     
WE'VE OFTEN SEEN FOR THE YOUNG  
WE'VE OFTEN SEEN FOR THE YOUNG  
PEOPLE, BUT ECONOMIC SECURITY   
PEOPLE, BUT ECONOMIC SECURITY   
AND THE MIDDLE CLASS.           
AND THE MIDDLE CLASS.           
ALSO, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT MASS 
ALSO, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT MASS 
TRANSIT AND TRANSPORTATION THAT 
TRANSIT AND TRANSPORTATION THAT 
PLAYS SUCH A PIVOTAL, DIRECTLY  
PLAYS SUCH A PIVOTAL, DIRECTLY  
RELATED RELATIONSHIP AND ROLE   
RELATED RELATIONSHIP AND ROLE   
WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A    
WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A    
PRIORITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.     
PRIORITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.     
IF THAT MEANS GOING BACK TO THE 
IF THAT MEANS GOING BACK TO THE 
BALLOT IN 2022, THEN LET'S DO   
BALLOT IN 2022, THEN LET'S DO   
THAT.                           
THAT.                           
THAT'S OUR JOB TODAY IS TO      
THAT'S OUR JOB TODAY IS TO      
STRENGTHEN COMMUNITIES IN A TIME
STRENGTHEN COMMUNITIES IN A TIME
OF ACUTE HITS TAKEN BY A LOT OF 
OF ACUTE HITS TAKEN BY A LOT OF 
OUR FAMILIES HERE IN THE CITY.  
OUR FAMILIES HERE IN THE CITY.  
IT'S PART OF A LARGER AGENDA OF 
IT'S PART OF A LARGER AGENDA OF 
DIGNITY FOR WORKING FAMILIES.   
DIGNITY FOR WORKING FAMILIES.   
AND IF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AGAIN 
AND IF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AGAIN 
WAS PIVOTAL TWO YEARS AGO AND   
WAS PIVOTAL TWO YEARS AGO AND   
WE'VE HAD COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO   
WE'VE HAD COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO   
HAVE CHAMPIONED IT AND I SALUTE 
HAVE CHAMPIONED IT AND I SALUTE 
THEM ALL, IMAGINE TODAY, OUR    
THEM ALL, IMAGINE TODAY, OUR    
WORLD HAS CHANGED, AND IMAGINE  
WORLD HAS CHANGED, AND IMAGINE  
THAT THAT CRISIS THAT WE HEARD  
THAT THAT CRISIS THAT WE HEARD  
ABOUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND 
ABOUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND 
IMAGINE HOW IT IS TODAY.        
IMAGINE HOW IT IS TODAY.        
IT'S OUT OF CONTROL.            
IT'S OUT OF CONTROL.            
AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE  
AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE  
ACTING AND HAVING THIS          
ACTING AND HAVING THIS          
DISCUSSION.                     
DISCUSSION.                     
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR. 
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR. 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU   
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
WE HAVE ANOTHER PowerPoint      
WE HAVE ANOTHER PowerPoint      
PRESENTATION, IF YOU'D LIKE TO  
PRESENTATION, IF YOU'D LIKE TO  
BEGIN.                          
BEGIN.                          
I'LL RESERVE MY COMMENTS AFTER  
I'LL RESERVE MY COMMENTS AFTER  
THAT PRESENTATION.              
THAT PRESENTATION.              
BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH 
BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH 
PART 2 OF THE DISCUSSION, GO    
PART 2 OF THE DISCUSSION, GO    
AHEAD.                          
AHEAD.                          
>>CAROLE POST: OKAY.            
>>CAROLE POST: OKAY.            
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S        
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S        
COMMENTS AND PARTICULARLY       
COMMENTS AND PARTICULARLY       
RECOGNITION FOR VANESSA         
RECOGNITION FOR VANESSA         
McCLEARY AND THE TEAM THAT      
McCLEARY AND THE TEAM THAT      
HAVE DONE ALL OF THE HEAVY      
HAVE DONE ALL OF THE HEAVY      
LIFTING FOR MANY YEARS AND      
LIFTING FOR MANY YEARS AND      
MOVING FORWARD.                 
MOVING FORWARD.                 
THANKS FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT.  
THANKS FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT.  
SO THE NEXT PRESENTATION IS A   
SO THE NEXT PRESENTATION IS A   
REFLECTION ON ONE OF THE TOOLS  
REFLECTION ON ONE OF THE TOOLS  
IN OUR TOOL KIT.                
IN OUR TOOL KIT.                
AND IT IS ONE, AGAIN, IT'S ALSO 
AND IT IS ONE, AGAIN, IT'S ALSO 
RESPONSIVE TO A MOTION THAT WAS 
RESPONSIVE TO A MOTION THAT WAS 
MADE JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO 
MADE JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO 
BY COUNCILMAN GUDES WITH RESPECT
BY COUNCILMAN GUDES WITH RESPECT
TO THE STATUS OF THE CONTRACT   
TO THE STATUS OF THE CONTRACT   
THAT OUR -- THE ROOTS OF THIS   
THAT OUR -- THE ROOTS OF THIS   
PARTICULAR ENGAGEMENT.          
PARTICULAR ENGAGEMENT.          
AS WITH THE PREVIOUS            
AS WITH THE PREVIOUS            
PRESENTATION, WE FELT LIKE IT   
PRESENTATION, WE FELT LIKE IT   
WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE 
WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE 
A MORE COMPREHENSIVE REFLECTION 
A MORE COMPREHENSIVE REFLECTION 
ON THE PROGRAM ITSELF, THE      
ON THE PROGRAM ITSELF, THE      
ORIGINS, THE STATUS OF IT, AND  
ORIGINS, THE STATUS OF IT, AND  
HOW IT'S WINDING UP.            
HOW IT'S WINDING UP.            
THIS WILL CONCLUDE AT THE END OF
THIS WILL CONCLUDE AT THE END OF
THIS CALENDAR YEAR, SO IT'S A   
THIS CALENDAR YEAR, SO IT'S A   
GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO REFLECT    
GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO REFLECT    
UPON IT.                        
UPON IT.                        
AS WE SAID, THERE ARE MANY TOOLS
AS WE SAID, THERE ARE MANY TOOLS
THAT NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN  
THAT NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN  
ORDER TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.     
ORDER TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.     
THIS IS ONE OF THEM.            
THIS IS ONE OF THEM.            
WE THINK THAT IT DID PROVIDE A  
WE THINK THAT IT DID PROVIDE A  
GREAT DEAL OF SUCCESS AND       
GREAT DEAL OF SUCCESS AND       
ULTIMATELY WILL RESULT IN ALMOST
ULTIMATELY WILL RESULT IN ALMOST
A HUNDRED NEW PROPERTIES BEING  
A HUNDRED NEW PROPERTIES BEING  
IN THE MARKETPLACE AND HAVING   
IN THE MARKETPLACE AND HAVING   
FAMI AND RESIDENTS RESIDING     
FAMI AND RESIDENTS RESIDING     
IN THEM.                        
IN THEM.                        
WE'LL GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE   
WE'LL GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE   
DETAILS, BUT ALSO A GREAT DEAL  
DETAILS, BUT ALSO A GREAT DEAL  
OF LESSONS LEARNED ABOUT HOW,   
OF LESSONS LEARNED ABOUT HOW,   
AGAIN, THIS KIND OF DRUM BEAT OF
AGAIN, THIS KIND OF DRUM BEAT OF
OUR GOVERNMENT SECTOR, NOT FOR  
OUR GOVERNMENT SECTOR, NOT FOR  
PROFIT SECTOR AND OUR PRIVATE   
PROFIT SECTOR AND OUR PRIVATE   
SECTORS CAN ALL BECOME PART OF  
SECTORS CAN ALL BECOME PART OF  
THE SOLUTION, WHETHER IT'S ON   
THE SOLUTION, WHETHER IT'S ON   
INDEPENDENT PATHS OR            
INDEPENDENT PATHS OR            
COLLECTIVELY.                   
COLLECTIVELY.                   
SO I'M GOING TO HAVE VANESSA    
SO I'M GOING TO HAVE VANESSA    
CARRY THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION.
CARRY THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION.
SHE IS ONE OF THE ARCHITECTS OF 
SHE IS ONE OF THE ARCHITECTS OF 
THE PROGRAM AND HAS REALLY BEEN 
THE PROGRAM AND HAS REALLY BEEN 
SHEPHERDING FOR THE PAST YEAR   
SHEPHERDING FOR THE PAST YEAR   
AND A HALF PLUS.                
AND A HALF PLUS.                
SO GREAT KUDOS TO HER.          
SO GREAT KUDOS TO HER.          
IT IS NOT PERFECT.              
IT IS NOT PERFECT.              
WE ADMIT THAT.                  
WE ADMIT THAT.                  
THERE ARE MANY LESSONS LEARNED  
THERE ARE MANY LESSONS LEARNED  
HERE, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO        
HERE, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO        
MAXIMIZE THE POSITIVES THAT MOST
MAXIMIZE THE POSITIVES THAT MOST
DEFINITELY CAME AS A RESULT OF  
DEFINITELY CAME AS A RESULT OF  
THIS PROGRAM, AND ADAPT         
THIS PROGRAM, AND ADAPT         
ACCORDINGLY MOVING FORWARD.     
ACCORDINGLY MOVING FORWARD.     
WE'LL CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION 
WE'LL CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION 
WITH A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS ABOUT 
WITH A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS ABOUT 
WHERE WE TAKE THIS PATH AND HOW 
WHERE WE TAKE THIS PATH AND HOW 
THIS CAN ALSO HELP INFORM OUR   
THIS CAN ALSO HELP INFORM OUR   
ABILITY TO MEET OUR HOUSING     
ABILITY TO MEET OUR HOUSING     
AFFORDABILITY OBJECTIVE.        
AFFORDABILITY OBJECTIVE.        
WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO 
WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO 
VANESSA.                        
VANESSA.                        
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: GOOD        
>>VANESSA McCLEARY: GOOD        
MORNING, AGAIN.                 
MORNING, AGAIN.                 
SO NEXT SLIDE.                  
SO NEXT SLIDE.                  
WE'LL GET INTO THE ACTUAL       
WE'LL GET INTO THE ACTUAL       
PROJECT, I JUST WANTED TO       
PROJECT, I JUST WANTED TO       
REFLECT ON HOW WE CAME TO THE   
REFLECT ON HOW WE CAME TO THE   
PROJECT.                        
PROJECT.                        
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IN 2017, WE STARTED WORKING ON  
IN 2017, WE STARTED WORKING ON  
AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR   
AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR   
HOUSING.                        
HOUSING.                        
IT'S AN ANALYSIS THAT'S REQUIRED
IT'S AN ANALYSIS THAT'S REQUIRED
BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR   
BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR   
ORGANIZATIONS THAT RECEIVE      
ORGANIZATIONS THAT RECEIVE      
FEDERAL FUNDS.                  
FEDERAL FUNDS.                  
SO NEXT SLIDE.                  
SO NEXT SLIDE.                  
WE DID OUR AFFIRMATIVELY        
WE DID OUR AFFIRMATIVELY        
FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING ANALYSIS
FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING ANALYSIS
WITH THE COUNTY AS WELL AS THE  
WITH THE COUNTY AS WELL AS THE  
TAMPA/HILLSBOROUGH HOMELESS     
TAMPA/HILLSBOROUGH HOMELESS     
INITIATIVE.                     
INITIATIVE.                     
THIS DOCUMENT WAS ONE OF THE    
THIS DOCUMENT WAS ONE OF THE    
SOURCE DOCUMENTS THAT THE       
SOURCE DOCUMENTS THAT THE       
COMMITTEE HAD, AND SO IN THE    
COMMITTEE HAD, AND SO IN THE    
ANALYSIS, YOU SEE THAT THERE WAS
ANALYSIS, YOU SEE THAT THERE WAS
A NEED TO INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF
A NEED TO INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, DEVELOP     
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, DEVELOP     
SUBSIDIZED INFILL HOME OWNERSHIP
SUBSIDIZED INFILL HOME OWNERSHIP
OPTIONS.                        
OPTIONS.                        
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ONE OF THE IMPORTANT TAKEAWAYS  
ONE OF THE IMPORTANT TAKEAWAYS  
THAT I SAW WHEN WE WERE DOING   
THAT I SAW WHEN WE WERE DOING   
THE ANALYSIS WAS THAT IN 1990 --
THE ANALYSIS WAS THAT IN 1990 --
AND THESE ARE BASED ON CENSUS   
AND THESE ARE BASED ON CENSUS   
DATA -- WE HAD A SMALL BUT      
DATA -- WE HAD A SMALL BUT      
DECENT SIZE RACIAL AND ETHNIC   
DECENT SIZE RACIAL AND ETHNIC   
CONCENTRATED AREA OF POVERTY.   
CONCENTRATED AREA OF POVERTY.   
IN 2000, WE SAW A DECREASE IN   
IN 2000, WE SAW A DECREASE IN   
THOSE AREAS, AND THEN IN 2010,  
THOSE AREAS, AND THEN IN 2010,  
THEY GOT LARGER.                
THEY GOT LARGER.                
AND SO LOOKING AT THAT, IT      
AND SO LOOKING AT THAT, IT      
REALLY STRUCK US THAT OUR       
REALLY STRUCK US THAT OUR       
RACIALLY AND ETHNICALLY         
RACIALLY AND ETHNICALLY         
CONCENTRATED AREAS OF POVERTY   
CONCENTRATED AREAS OF POVERTY   
WERE GROWING AND WHY THEY WERE  
WERE GROWING AND WHY THEY WERE  
GROWING.                        
GROWING.                        
A LOT OF IT HAD TO DO WITH HUD'S
A LOT OF IT HAD TO DO WITH HUD'S
POLICIES OF WHERE WE WOULD      
POLICIES OF WHERE WE WOULD      
DEPLOY FUNDING.                 
DEPLOY FUNDING.                 
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AS WE WERE DOING THAT ANALYSIS, 
AS WE WERE DOING THAT ANALYSIS, 
WE WERE ALSO HAVING A LOT OF    
WE WERE ALSO HAVING A LOT OF    
COMMUNITY MEETINGS WHICH WE     
COMMUNITY MEETINGS WHICH WE     
TRADITIONALLY DO WITH OUR ANNUAL
TRADITIONALLY DO WITH OUR ANNUAL
ACTION PLAN AS WELL AS THROUGH  
ACTION PLAN AS WELL AS THROUGH  
THIS ANALYSIS AND JUST ATTENDING
THIS ANALYSIS AND JUST ATTENDING
SOME OF THE DIFFERENT           
SOME OF THE DIFFERENT           
NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS.          
NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS.          
AND THE THINGS THAT WE NOTICED  
AND THE THINGS THAT WE NOTICED  
THAT THEY WERE -- THERE WERE    
THAT THEY WERE -- THERE WERE    
COMPLAINTS ABOUT OVERGROWN LOTS,
COMPLAINTS ABOUT OVERGROWN LOTS,
LOTS THAT HAD BECOME DUMPING    
LOTS THAT HAD BECOME DUMPING    
SITES.                          
SITES.                          
WE ALSO RECOGNIZED THAT WE HAD  
WE ALSO RECOGNIZED THAT WE HAD  
-- HAD OVER A HUNDRED LOTS THAT 
-- HAD OVER A HUNDRED LOTS THAT 
WERE UNDER MY CONTROL THAT WE   
WERE UNDER MY CONTROL THAT WE   
WERE JUST PAYING TAXES AND      
WERE JUST PAYING TAXES AND      
MOWING FEES ON.                 
MOWING FEES ON.                 
WE WERE ALSO SEEING THAT        
WE WERE ALSO SEEING THAT        
PROPERTY VALUES WERE STAGNATING 
PROPERTY VALUES WERE STAGNATING 
IN SOME AREAS.                  
IN SOME AREAS.                  
WE HAD NONPROFIT DEVELOPERS THAT
WE HAD NONPROFIT DEVELOPERS THAT
WERE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING 
WERE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING 
APPRAISALS FOR THEIR COSTS.     
APPRAISALS FOR THEIR COSTS.     
THEY WERE BUILDING HOUSING THAT 
THEY WERE BUILDING HOUSING THAT 
HAD TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY         
HAD TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY         
SUBSIDIZED TO COVER THEIR COST  
SUBSIDIZED TO COVER THEIR COST  
FOR THE HOUSING.                
FOR THE HOUSING.                
THEN AS THE MARKET WAS          
THEN AS THE MARKET WAS          
EXPANDING, IT WAS GETTING HARDER
EXPANDING, IT WAS GETTING HARDER
AND HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO FIND   
AND HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO FIND   
HOMES TO PURCHASE.              
HOMES TO PURCHASE.              
SO WE HAD A LONG LIST OF -- FOR 
SO WE HAD A LONG LIST OF -- FOR 
OUR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE     
OUR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE     
PROGRAM, PEOPLE THAT WERE       
PROGRAM, PEOPLE THAT WERE       
QUALIFIED, WERE MORTGAGE READY, 
QUALIFIED, WERE MORTGAGE READY, 
BUT WHEN THEY WENT OUT TO FIND A
BUT WHEN THEY WENT OUT TO FIND A
HOUSE, THEY WERE IN A COMPETING 
HOUSE, THEY WERE IN A COMPETING 
MARKET WITH INVESTORS AND OTHER 
MARKET WITH INVESTORS AND OTHER 
FOLKS WHERE THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO
FOLKS WHERE THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO
SECURE PROPERTY TO PURCHASE.    
SECURE PROPERTY TO PURCHASE.    
SO THAT RESERVATION JUST WENT   
SO THAT RESERVATION JUST WENT   
AWAY AND THEY REMAINED RENTERS. 
AWAY AND THEY REMAINED RENTERS. 
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SO OUR PROPOSAL TO ADDRESSING   
SO OUR PROPOSAL TO ADDRESSING   
ALL OF THIS WAS THAT WE HAVE THE
ALL OF THIS WAS THAT WE HAVE THE
CITY-OWNED LOTS THAT ARE AN     
CITY-OWNED LOTS THAT ARE AN     
ASSET, BUT AREN'T REALLY ACTING 
ASSET, BUT AREN'T REALLY ACTING 
AS AN ASSET.                    
AS AN ASSET.                    
SO WE WANTED TO USE THOSE FOR   
SO WE WANTED TO USE THOSE FOR   
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.            
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.            
WE WANTED TO STABILIZE OUR      
WE WANTED TO STABILIZE OUR      
NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE WE WERE   
NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE WE WERE   
ALSO WORKING WITH NEIGHBORHOODS 
ALSO WORKING WITH NEIGHBORHOODS 
AND HEARING ABOUT THE ISSUES IN 
AND HEARING ABOUT THE ISSUES IN 
THE SCHOOLS.                    
THE SCHOOLS.                    
AND WE KNOW THAT OUR SCHOOLS    
AND WE KNOW THAT OUR SCHOOLS    
HAVE THESE HIGH TRANSITION      
HAVE THESE HIGH TRANSITION      
RATES.                          
RATES.                          
THEY WERE SAYING THAT ALMOST 90%
THEY WERE SAYING THAT ALMOST 90%
OF THE STUDENTS -- AND THIS IS  
OF THE STUDENTS -- AND THIS IS  
ESPECIALLY IN SULPHUR SPRINGS,  
ESPECIALLY IN SULPHUR SPRINGS,  
90% OF THE STUDENTS HAD STARTED 
90% OF THE STUDENTS HAD STARTED 
THE SCHOOL YEAR AT THAT SCHOOL  
THE SCHOOL YEAR AT THAT SCHOOL  
DIDN'T FINISH AT THAT SCHOOL.   
DIDN'T FINISH AT THAT SCHOOL.   
WELL, THAT BECOMES VERY         
WELL, THAT BECOMES VERY         
DISRUPTIVE.                     
DISRUPTIVE.                     
AND THEY WERE MOVING BECAUSE OF 
AND THEY WERE MOVING BECAUSE OF 
THE HOUSING COST BURDEN, THAT   
THE HOUSING COST BURDEN, THAT   
FAMILIES, IF THE RENT WENT UP BY
FAMILIES, IF THE RENT WENT UP BY
A HUNDRED DOLLARS, THEIR INCOMES
A HUNDRED DOLLARS, THEIR INCOMES
WEREN'T SUCH THAT THEY COULD    
WEREN'T SUCH THAT THEY COULD    
AFFORD THAT HUNDRED DOLLARS, AND
AFFORD THAT HUNDRED DOLLARS, AND
SO THEY WERE MOVING.            
SO THEY WERE MOVING.            
WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT OUR      
WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT OUR      
NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS DIDN'T  
NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS DIDN'T  
REALLY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO     
REALLY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO     
BUILD AT THE RATE THAT WE NEEDED
BUILD AT THE RATE THAT WE NEEDED
BUILDINGS TO BE DONE.           
BUILDINGS TO BE DONE.           
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IN OUR ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THIS  
IN OUR ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THIS  
PROBLEM, WE PUT OUT AN RFP.     
PROBLEM, WE PUT OUT AN RFP.     
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AND FOR THAT RFP, WE SOLICITED A
AND FOR THAT RFP, WE SOLICITED A
NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS  
NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS  
TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO BID 
TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO BID 
ON THE PROJECT, BUT WE ONLY     
ON THE PROJECT, BUT WE ONLY     
RECEIVED ONE PROPOSAL.          
RECEIVED ONE PROPOSAL.          
AND THAT PROJECT WAS NEHEMIAH   
AND THAT PROJECT WAS NEHEMIAH   
PHASE TWO.                      
PHASE TWO.                      
WE PUT OUT 18 LOTS.             
WE PUT OUT 18 LOTS.             
WE GAVE A MILLION DOLLARS, AND  
WE GAVE A MILLION DOLLARS, AND  
THE ONLY THING WE SAID WAS YOU  
THE ONLY THING WE SAID WAS YOU  
DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THAT MILLION 
DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THAT MILLION 
DOLLARS BACK, BUT WHEN YOU GET  
DOLLARS BACK, BUT WHEN YOU GET  
THE PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE OF   
THE PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE OF   
THE HOME, BUILD ANOTHER SIX     
THE HOME, BUILD ANOTHER SIX     
HOMES.                          
HOMES.                          
WITH THAT PROJECT, WHICH IS     
WITH THAT PROJECT, WHICH IS     
STILL ONGOING, THERE WERE A LOT 
STILL ONGOING, THERE WERE A LOT 
OF LESSONS THAT WE LEARNED, THAT
OF LESSONS THAT WE LEARNED, THAT
THERE WAS DEFINITELY A HIGH     
THERE WAS DEFINITELY A HIGH     
DEMAND FOR AFFORDABLE           
DEMAND FOR AFFORDABLE           
SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING AND THE   
SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING AND THE   
NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T MATTER, THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T MATTER, THAT
PEOPLE WANTED TO HAVE MORE      
PEOPLE WANTED TO HAVE MORE      
OPTIONS IN NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT   
OPTIONS IN NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT   
THEY WERE REALLY LOOKING TO BUY 
THEY WERE REALLY LOOKING TO BUY 
A HOME.                         
A HOME.                         
WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE  
WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE  
TO BE ABLE TO BUILD QUICKLY     
TO BE ABLE TO BUILD QUICKLY     
BECAUSE THE NONPROFIT PARTNER   
BECAUSE THE NONPROFIT PARTNER   
REBUILDING TOGETHER TAMPA BAY   
REBUILDING TOGETHER TAMPA BAY   
THAT WAS HELPING US WITH THAT   
THAT WAS HELPING US WITH THAT   
NEHEMIAH PROJECT WAS LOSING A   
NEHEMIAH PROJECT WAS LOSING A   
LOT OF PRODUCT TO THEFT.        
LOT OF PRODUCT TO THEFT.        
AND WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT      
AND WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT      
SUBSIDIZING THE DEVELOPER DIDN'T
SUBSIDIZING THE DEVELOPER DIDN'T
ALWAYS HELP -- IT HELPED THAT   
ALWAYS HELP -- IT HELPED THAT   
PARTICULAR BUYER, BUT IT DIDN'T 
PARTICULAR BUYER, BUT IT DIDN'T 
HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD.          
HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD.          
AND THAT WE NEEDED TO           
AND THAT WE NEEDED TO           
DECONCENRATE POVERTY.           
DECONCENRATE POVERTY.           
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SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT, AND THIS IS
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT, AND THIS IS
WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WAS     
WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WAS     
TALKING ABOUT, WHEN YOU LOOKED  
TALKING ABOUT, WHEN YOU LOOKED  
AT THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE 
AT THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE 
OVER THE YEARS, AND THIS STARTS 
OVER THE YEARS, AND THIS STARTS 
AT 2014, BECAUSE I STARTED WITH 
AT 2014, BECAUSE I STARTED WITH 
THE CITY AT THE END OF 2013.    
THE CITY AT THE END OF 2013.    
MY FIRST PROJECT WAS NEHEMIAH   
MY FIRST PROJECT WAS NEHEMIAH   
PHASE ONE.                      
PHASE ONE.                      
FOR THAT PROJECT, WE PUT 1.4    
FOR THAT PROJECT, WE PUT 1.4    
MILLION TO GET 11 NEW HOMES AND 
MILLION TO GET 11 NEW HOMES AND 
THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE WAS     
THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE WAS     
90,000.                         
90,000.                         
NOW, THAT SALES PRICE WAS BASED 
NOW, THAT SALES PRICE WAS BASED 
ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN WHICH WE 
ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN WHICH WE 
WERE BUILDING BECAUSE IT HAS    
WERE BUILDING BECAUSE IT HAS    
SUCH A POOR REPUTATION.         
SUCH A POOR REPUTATION.         
IT HAD A LOT OF THINGS THAT     
IT HAD A LOT OF THINGS THAT     
WEREN'T GOING RIGHT AND WE WERE 
WEREN'T GOING RIGHT AND WE WERE 
LOOKING TO TURN IT AROUND.      
LOOKING TO TURN IT AROUND.      
SO WE WANTED TO INCENTIVIZE     
SO WE WANTED TO INCENTIVIZE     
FOLKS TO BUY IN THAT            
FOLKS TO BUY IN THAT            
NEIGHBORHOOD.                   
NEIGHBORHOOD.                   
WE ALSO COULDN'T GET APPRAISALS 
WE ALSO COULDN'T GET APPRAISALS 
ABOVE THAT LEVEL.               
ABOVE THAT LEVEL.               
IN 2015, WE WORKED WITH ONE OF  
IN 2015, WE WORKED WITH ONE OF  
OUR LONGTIME PARTNERS, CDC.     
OUR LONGTIME PARTNERS, CDC.     
WE GAVE THEM 650,000 TO BUILD   
WE GAVE THEM 650,000 TO BUILD   
SEVEN HOMES, AVERAGE SALES PRICE
SEVEN HOMES, AVERAGE SALES PRICE
OF 165.                         
OF 165.                         
IT JUST GOES ON.                
IT JUST GOES ON.                
WORKING WITH OUR NONPROFIT      
WORKING WITH OUR NONPROFIT      
PARTNERS, IT WAS GREAT BECAUSE  
PARTNERS, IT WAS GREAT BECAUSE  
THEY MADE HOUSING AFFORDABLE AND
THEY MADE HOUSING AFFORDABLE AND
IT CATERED TO THE COMMUNITY,    
IT CATERED TO THE COMMUNITY,    
THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO       
THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO       
PRODUCE THE NUMBER OF HOUSES    
PRODUCE THE NUMBER OF HOUSES    
THAT THERE WAS A DEMAND FOR.    
THAT THERE WAS A DEMAND FOR.    
SO WE HAD IMPLEMENTED A PROPERTY
SO WE HAD IMPLEMENTED A PROPERTY
DISPOSITION PROGRAM IN 2017 AND 
DISPOSITION PROGRAM IN 2017 AND 
THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, WE WERE   
THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, WE WERE   
PROVIDING LOTS FREE TO          
PROVIDING LOTS FREE TO          
DEVELOPERS.                     
DEVELOPERS.                     
MOSTLY WHO TOOK ADVANTAGE OF    
MOSTLY WHO TOOK ADVANTAGE OF    
THAT PROGRAM, WE DID HAVE A     
THAT PROGRAM, WE DID HAVE A     
COUPLE OF FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPERS,
COUPLE OF FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPERS,
BUT MOSTLY IT WAS HABITAT FOR   
BUT MOSTLY IT WAS HABITAT FOR   
HUMANITY.                       
HUMANITY.                       
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SO FROM ALL THESE DIFFERENT     
SO FROM ALL THESE DIFFERENT     
PROJECTS, WE DECIDED WE WERE    
PROJECTS, WE DECIDED WE WERE    
GOING TO PUT OUT ANOTHER RFP AND
GOING TO PUT OUT ANOTHER RFP AND
IN PREPARING TO PUT THAT OUT, WE
IN PREPARING TO PUT THAT OUT, WE
WORKED WITH OUR AFFORDABLE      
WORKED WITH OUR AFFORDABLE      
HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND  
HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND  
THEY HELPED US TO TALK TO A     
THEY HELPED US TO TALK TO A     
NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS% 
NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS% 
TO FIND OUT WHAT WOULD IT TAKE  
TO FIND OUT WHAT WOULD IT TAKE  
TO GET THEM TO RESPOND TO AN    
TO GET THEM TO RESPOND TO AN    
RFP.                            
RFP.                            
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD  
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD  
-- AND WE TALKED TO 11 DIFFERENT
-- AND WE TALKED TO 11 DIFFERENT
FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPERS, AND THEY 
FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPERS, AND THEY 
WERE ALL SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO 
WERE ALL SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO 
HAVE AN ECONOMY OF SCALE, SO    
HAVE AN ECONOMY OF SCALE, SO    
THEY NEEDED A MINIMUM OF 35 LOTS
THEY NEEDED A MINIMUM OF 35 LOTS
TO DEVELOP BECAUSE IT WAS A     
TO DEVELOP BECAUSE IT WAS A     
MATTER OF PRODUCING A LOT OF    
MATTER OF PRODUCING A LOT OF    
HOUSING AT THE SAME TIME TO HELP
HOUSING AT THE SAME TIME TO HELP
REDUCE THEIR COST.              
REDUCE THEIR COST.              
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SORRY, NEXT SLIDE.              
SORRY, NEXT SLIDE.              
SO WHEN WE PUT THE RFP OUT, WE  
SO WHEN WE PUT THE RFP OUT, WE  
ADVERTISED IT IN THE NEWSPAPER. 
ADVERTISED IT IN THE NEWSPAPER. 
WE SENT IT TO A NUMBER OF       
WE SENT IT TO A NUMBER OF       
DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS DIRECTLY.  
DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS DIRECTLY.  
WE HAD A TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE   
WE HAD A TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE   
WORKSHOP.                       
WORKSHOP.                       
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AT THAT WORKSHOP, 18 DIFFERENT  
AT THAT WORKSHOP, 18 DIFFERENT  
COMPANIES WERE REPRESENTED.     
COMPANIES WERE REPRESENTED.     
8 OF THOSE WERE MINORITY        
8 OF THOSE WERE MINORITY        
BUSINESSES.                     
BUSINESSES.                     
5 WERE NONPROFITS.              
5 WERE NONPROFITS.              
IT WAS A TOTAL OF 30 PEOPLE.    
IT WAS A TOTAL OF 30 PEOPLE.    
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WORKSHOP.                       
WORKSHOP.                       
SO WE WERE EXPECTING TO GET MORE
SO WE WERE EXPECTING TO GET MORE
OF A RESPONSE.                  
OF A RESPONSE.                  
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THE PROPOSALS WERE DUE ON       
THE PROPOSALS WERE DUE ON       
DECEMBER 5th AND AT THAT TIME,  
DECEMBER 5th AND AT THAT TIME,  
WE ONLY RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE.  
WE ONLY RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE.  
AND LIKE I SAID, WHEN WE DID THE
AND LIKE I SAID, WHEN WE DID THE
NEHEMIAH PROJECT, WE ONLY GOT   
NEHEMIAH PROJECT, WE ONLY GOT   
ONE RESPONSE.                   
ONE RESPONSE.                   
WE'VE DONE CHDO, RFPs, WE'VE    
WE'VE DONE CHDO, RFPs, WE'VE    
ONLY GOTTEN ONE RESPONSE ON MANY
ONLY GOTTEN ONE RESPONSE ON MANY
OF THEM.                        
OF THEM.                        
WHEN WE GOT ONE RESPONSE ON THIS
WHEN WE GOT ONE RESPONSE ON THIS
ONE, WE STILL TOOK IT TO THE    
ONE, WE STILL TOOK IT TO THE    
EVALUATION COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS 
EVALUATION COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS 
MADE UP OF THREE OF OUR AHAC    
MADE UP OF THREE OF OUR AHAC    
MEMBERS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING     
MEMBERS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING     
ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS, ONE 
ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS, ONE 
WAS PAMELA RUDD AND SHE WAS A   
WAS PAMELA RUDD AND SHE WAS A   
BANKER, BECAUSE WE ALWAYS LIKE  
BANKER, BECAUSE WE ALWAYS LIKE  
TO HAVE A FINANCE PERSON, A     
TO HAVE A FINANCE PERSON, A     
DEVELOPER, FOLKS THAT ARE GOING 
DEVELOPER, FOLKS THAT ARE GOING 
TO BE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TO 
TO BE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TO 
REALLY BE ABLE TO EVALUATE THE  
REALLY BE ABLE TO EVALUATE THE  
PROPOSAL.                       
PROPOSAL.                       
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SO ONE OF THE REASONS WE AWARDED
SO ONE OF THE REASONS WE AWARDED
THAT CONTRACT WAS BECAUSE THE   
THAT CONTRACT WAS BECAUSE THE   
PROPOSAL THAT WE RECEIVED FROM  
PROPOSAL THAT WE RECEIVED FROM  
DOMAIN HOMES WAS A COLLABORATION
DOMAIN HOMES WAS A COLLABORATION
WITH THEM, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY,
WITH THEM, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY,
CDC OF TAMPA, AS WELL AS HOUSING
CDC OF TAMPA, AS WELL AS HOUSING
COUNSELING AGENCIES, BECAUSE IN 
COUNSELING AGENCIES, BECAUSE IN 
THEIR PROPOSAL, THEY TALKED     
THEIR PROPOSAL, THEY TALKED     
ABOUT FUNDING HOUSING COUNSELING
ABOUT FUNDING HOUSING COUNSELING
AGENCIES TO DO THE EDUCATION    
AGENCIES TO DO THE EDUCATION    
PORTION AND QUALIFYING THE      
PORTION AND QUALIFYING THE      
BUYERS FOR THE PROJECT.         
BUYERS FOR THE PROJECT.         
WE USED FIRST HOUSING TO        
WE USED FIRST HOUSING TO        
DISBURSE THE FUNDS BECAUSE WHAT 
DISBURSE THE FUNDS BECAUSE WHAT 
WE PROVIDED TO THEM WAS A       
WE PROVIDED TO THEM WAS A       
REVOLVING LOAN FUND WHERE WE    
REVOLVING LOAN FUND WHERE WE    
WANTED OUR MONEY BACK AT THE    
WANTED OUR MONEY BACK AT THE    
END.                            
END.                            
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SO THE IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE  
SO THE IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE  
FOR THAT PROJECT, THEY WERE TO  
FOR THAT PROJECT, THEY WERE TO  
HAVE A MODEL HOME CREATED BY    
HAVE A MODEL HOME CREATED BY    
MARCH OF 2018.                  
MARCH OF 2018.                  
THEY WERE TO -- SORRY, THEY WERE
THEY WERE TO -- SORRY, THEY WERE
TO ACQUIRE THE LOT AND DEVELOP  
TO ACQUIRE THE LOT AND DEVELOP  
THE MODEL HOME THAT WOULD BE    
THE MODEL HOME THAT WOULD BE    
OPEN BY JUNE OF 2018.           
OPEN BY JUNE OF 2018.           
THEY WERE TO HAVE PULLED THEIR  
THEY WERE TO HAVE PULLED THEIR  
FIRST PERMIT JULY.              
FIRST PERMIT JULY.              
HAVE TEN HOMES DONE BY JANUARY  
HAVE TEN HOMES DONE BY JANUARY  
OF THE NEXT YEAR, AND ALL OF THE
OF THE NEXT YEAR, AND ALL OF THE
HOMES COMPLETED BY JANUARY OF   
HOMES COMPLETED BY JANUARY OF   
2021.                           
2021.                           
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SO WITH THAT PROPOSAL, WHAT WE  
SO WITH THAT PROPOSAL, WHAT WE  
PROVIDED TO THEM WAS AN         
PROVIDED TO THEM WAS AN         
INVESTMENT ON THE CITY'S PART OF
INVESTMENT ON THE CITY'S PART OF
ABOUT 2.6 MILLION.              
ABOUT 2.6 MILLION.              
WE DIVIDED THE REVOLVER TO 1.1  
WE DIVIDED THE REVOLVER TO 1.1  
MILLION FOR REVOLVING LOAN FUND.
MILLION FOR REVOLVING LOAN FUND.
400,000 WAS A SUBSIDY DESIGNED  
400,000 WAS A SUBSIDY DESIGNED  
FOR THE NONPROFIT AGENCIES FOR  
FOR THE NONPROFIT AGENCIES FOR  
HOMES SOLD TO ANYONE AT 80% OF  
HOMES SOLD TO ANYONE AT 80% OF  
AREA MEDIAN OR BELOW.           
AREA MEDIAN OR BELOW.           
WE ALSO PROVIDED A LOT READINESS
WE ALSO PROVIDED A LOT READINESS
FUND, AND THAT WAS TO DEAL WITH 
FUND, AND THAT WAS TO DEAL WITH 
ISSUES THAT CONTRACTORS RUN INTO
ISSUES THAT CONTRACTORS RUN INTO
WHEN DEVELOPING LOTS -- TREES,  
WHEN DEVELOPING LOTS -- TREES,  
ASSESSMENTS, TITLE ISSUES.      
ASSESSMENTS, TITLE ISSUES.      
WE ALSO PROVIDED 75,000 FOR A   
WE ALSO PROVIDED 75,000 FOR A   
SUIT TO QUIET TITLE BECAUSE WE  
SUIT TO QUIET TITLE BECAUSE WE  
DID HAVE TITLE ISSUES ON A      
DID HAVE TITLE ISSUES ON A      
NUMBER OF THOSE LOTS.           
NUMBER OF THOSE LOTS.           
AND 95 LOTS THAT HAD AN ASSESSED
AND 95 LOTS THAT HAD AN ASSESSED
VALUE OF 854,000.               
VALUE OF 854,000.               
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SO IN TERMS OF THE OUTPUT AND   
SO IN TERMS OF THE OUTPUT AND   
WHAT WE GOT FOR OUR INVESTMENT  
WHAT WE GOT FOR OUR INVESTMENT  
-- NEXT SLIDE -- DOMAIN HOMES   
-- NEXT SLIDE -- DOMAIN HOMES   
DID BUILD A MODEL HOME VALUED AT
DID BUILD A MODEL HOME VALUED AT
741,000.                        
741,000.                        
IT ALLOWED THE BUYERS TO GO IN  
IT ALLOWED THE BUYERS TO GO IN  
AND SEE, FEEL, TOUCH, AND PICK  
AND SEE, FEEL, TOUCH, AND PICK  
WHAT THEY WANTED IN THE HOMES   
WHAT THEY WANTED IN THE HOMES   
THAT THEY WERE PURCHASING AND   
THAT THEY WERE PURCHASING AND   
SELLING.                        
SELLING.                        
SO FAR THEY COMPLETED 63 HOMES. 
SO FAR THEY COMPLETED 63 HOMES. 
THEY HAVE 13 UNDER CONSTRUCTION,
THEY HAVE 13 UNDER CONSTRUCTION,
TEN OF WHICH ARE UNDER CONTRACT.
TEN OF WHICH ARE UNDER CONTRACT.
IN ADDITION TO WHAT THEY DID    
IN ADDITION TO WHAT THEY DID    
UNDER OUR CONTRACT, THEY ALSO   
UNDER OUR CONTRACT, THEY ALSO   
DID TWO OWNER OCCUPIED REHABS,  
DID TWO OWNER OCCUPIED REHABS,  
AND THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING THEY
AND THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING THEY
DID OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTRACT ON  
DID OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTRACT ON  
THEIR OWN.                      
THEIR OWN.                      
THEY PROVIDED STIPENDS TO FOUR  
THEY PROVIDED STIPENDS TO FOUR  
DIFFERENT HOUSING COUNSELING    
DIFFERENT HOUSING COUNSELING    
AGENCIES THAT TOTALED 126,000.  
AGENCIES THAT TOTALED 126,000.  
AND THEY INVESTED OVER $10      
AND THEY INVESTED OVER $10      
MILLION TO DATE.                
MILLION TO DATE.                
THEY ALSO, THIS PROJECT         
THEY ALSO, THIS PROJECT         
INTRODUCED THEM TO THE          
INTRODUCED THEM TO THE          
NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY FUNDED A 
NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY FUNDED A 
NUMBER OF DIFFERENT NONPROFITS  
NUMBER OF DIFFERENT NONPROFITS  
AND PHILANTHROPIC EFFORTS IN THE
AND PHILANTHROPIC EFFORTS IN THE
AREA.                           
AREA.                           
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SO WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF        
SO WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF        
COMPLAINTS ABOUT WHO WAS BUYING 
COMPLAINTS ABOUT WHO WAS BUYING 
THESE HOMES.                    
THESE HOMES.                    
AND SO FAR, 72% OF THE HOMES    
AND SO FAR, 72% OF THE HOMES    
WERE SOLD TO AFRICAN AMERICANS. 
WERE SOLD TO AFRICAN AMERICANS. 
11% WERE SOLD TO HISPANIC.      
11% WERE SOLD TO HISPANIC.      
3% TO ASIANS, AND 14% TO WHITE  
3% TO ASIANS, AND 14% TO WHITE  
HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD.              
HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD.              
THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE OF THE  
THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE OF THE  
HOME WAS 204,000.               
HOME WAS 204,000.               
THE AVERAGE MORTGAGE PAYMENT WAS
THE AVERAGE MORTGAGE PAYMENT WAS
1180.                           
1180.                           
SO THAT 1180 IS MUCH LOWER THAN 
SO THAT 1180 IS MUCH LOWER THAN 
THE AVERAGE ONE BEDROOM, WHICH  
THE AVERAGE ONE BEDROOM, WHICH  
IS NOW RUNNING AROUND 1500 IN   
IS NOW RUNNING AROUND 1500 IN   
TAMPA.                          
TAMPA.                          
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HABITAT WAS A PARTNER, AND THEY 
HABITAT WAS A PARTNER, AND THEY 
WERE PROVIDED WITH TEN LOTS.    
WERE PROVIDED WITH TEN LOTS.    
SO FAR THEY HAVE SOLD EIGHT OF  
SO FAR THEY HAVE SOLD EIGHT OF  
THOSE HOMES.                    
THOSE HOMES.                    
THEY HAVE TWO UNDER             
THEY HAVE TWO UNDER             
CONSTRUCTION.                   
CONSTRUCTION.                   
THROUGH THE HABITAT MODEL, THEY 
THROUGH THE HABITAT MODEL, THEY 
ALWAYS DO SWEAT EQUITY.         
ALWAYS DO SWEAT EQUITY.         
THEY CONTINUED THAT WITH THIS   
THEY CONTINUED THAT WITH THIS   
PROJECT.                        
PROJECT.                        
HABITAT INVESTED ABOUT 1.2      
HABITAT INVESTED ABOUT 1.2      
MILLION, AND THEY SPENT ABOUT   
MILLION, AND THEY SPENT ABOUT   
57,000 ON IMPACT FEES.          
57,000 ON IMPACT FEES.          
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60% OF THEIR HOMEOWNERS WERE    
60% OF THEIR HOMEOWNERS WERE    
AFRICAN AMERICANS.              
AFRICAN AMERICANS.              
30% WERE HISPANIC, AND 10% WERE 
30% WERE HISPANIC, AND 10% WERE 
WHITE.                          
WHITE.                          
THEIR AVERAGE SALES PRICE WAS   
THEIR AVERAGE SALES PRICE WAS   
191,000.                        
191,000.                        
THEIR AVERAGE MORTGAGE PAYMENT  
THEIR AVERAGE MORTGAGE PAYMENT  
WAS $748.                       
WAS $748.                       
THOSE HOMEOWNERS HAVE A         
THOSE HOMEOWNERS HAVE A         
BEAUTIFUL NEW HOME FOR HALF OF  
BEAUTIFUL NEW HOME FOR HALF OF  
WHAT SOMEONE IS SPENDING FOR A  
WHAT SOMEONE IS SPENDING FOR A  
ONE BEDROOM.                    
ONE BEDROOM.                    
THE BUYERS CONTRIBUTED SO FAR   
THE BUYERS CONTRIBUTED SO FAR   
2100 HOURS IN SWEAT EQUITY.     
2100 HOURS IN SWEAT EQUITY.     
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THERE ARE SOME MISCONCEPTIONS   
THERE ARE SOME MISCONCEPTIONS   
AROUND HABITAT HOMES.           
AROUND HABITAT HOMES.           
SO THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS YOU    
SO THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS YOU    
WHAT THOSE HOMES LOOK LIKE.     
WHAT THOSE HOMES LOOK LIKE.     
THEY LOOK LIKE WHAT ANY OTHER   
THEY LOOK LIKE WHAT ANY OTHER   
BUILDER IS PUTTING INTO THE     
BUILDER IS PUTTING INTO THE     
NEIGHBORHOOD.                   
NEIGHBORHOOD.                   
THEY COME WITH LANDSCAPING.     
THEY COME WITH LANDSCAPING.     
THEY HAVE NICE FEATURES.        
THEY HAVE NICE FEATURES.        
THEY ARE NOT JUST SQUARE BOXES. 
THEY ARE NOT JUST SQUARE BOXES. 
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CDC WAS ALSO A PARTNER IN THIS  
CDC WAS ALSO A PARTNER IN THIS  
COLLABORATION.                  
COLLABORATION.                  
THERE WERE SOME PROBLEMS THAT   
THERE WERE SOME PROBLEMS THAT   
HAPPENED AS THEY WERE GOING     
HAPPENED AS THEY WERE GOING     
ALONG, AND SO THEY DIDN'T GET   
ALONG, AND SO THEY DIDN'T GET   
THEIR MOU UNTIL APRIL OF 2019.  
THEIR MOU UNTIL APRIL OF 2019.  
SO FAR THEY COMPLETED THREE     
SO FAR THEY COMPLETED THREE     
HOMES AND THEY HAVE THREE UNDER 
HOMES AND THEY HAVE THREE UNDER 
CONSTRUCTION.                   
CONSTRUCTION.                   
THEY HAVE INVESTED ABOUT        
THEY HAVE INVESTED ABOUT        
$542,000.                       
$542,000.                       
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THEY ALSO ARE BUILDING BEAUTIFUL
THEY ALSO ARE BUILDING BEAUTIFUL
HOMES THAT HAVE STAINLESS STEEL 
HOMES THAT HAVE STAINLESS STEEL 
APPLIANCES, GRANITE COUNTERTOPS.
APPLIANCES, GRANITE COUNTERTOPS.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT     
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT     
WHATEVER WAS BUILT THROUGH THE  
WHATEVER WAS BUILT THROUGH THE  
COLLABORATION WAS AN ATTRACTIVE 
COLLABORATION WAS AN ATTRACTIVE 
HOME THAT ANYBODY WOULD BE      
HOME THAT ANYBODY WOULD BE      
INTERESTED IN BUYING.           
INTERESTED IN BUYING.           
WE DIDN'T WANT TO DOWNGRADE ANY 
WE DIDN'T WANT TO DOWNGRADE ANY 
OF THE FEATURES AND MAKE IT     
OF THE FEATURES AND MAKE IT     
SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY WOULD   
SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY WOULD   
SAY, OH, THIS IS AN AFFORDABLE  
SAY, OH, THIS IS AN AFFORDABLE  
HOUSE.                          
HOUSE.                          
THEY ARE ALSO STAGING THOSE     
THEY ARE ALSO STAGING THOSE     
HOUSES, WHICH HAS HELPED TO MOVE
HOUSES, WHICH HAS HELPED TO MOVE
THEM IN TERMS OF SALES.         
THEM IN TERMS OF SALES.         
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IN TERMS OF OUTCOMES, AND WHEN  
IN TERMS OF OUTCOMES, AND WHEN  
WE DO A PROJECT, IT'S NOT JUST  
WE DO A PROJECT, IT'S NOT JUST  
ABOUT BUILDING THE HOMES.       
ABOUT BUILDING THE HOMES.       
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IT'S ALSO ABOUT WHAT IT DOES FOR
IT'S ALSO ABOUT WHAT IT DOES FOR
THE COMMUNITY.                  
THE COMMUNITY.                  
WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH THAT      
WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH THAT      
PARTNERSHIP, WE HAVE A TOTAL    
PARTNERSHIP, WE HAVE A TOTAL    
INVESTMENT OF JUST OVER $11     
INVESTMENT OF JUST OVER $11     
MILLION, ALMOST 12 MILLION, AND 
MILLION, ALMOST 12 MILLION, AND 
SO FAR, WE'VE GOT 73 HOMES THAT 
SO FAR, WE'VE GOT 73 HOMES THAT 
WERE COMPLETED.                 
WERE COMPLETED.                 
NOW, WHAT DID THAT DO FOR THE   
NOW, WHAT DID THAT DO FOR THE   
COMMUNITY?                      
COMMUNITY?                      
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SO WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO SEE IS  
SO WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO SEE IS  
THAT THE HOME VALUES WENT UP.   
THAT THE HOME VALUES WENT UP.   
AND WHEN HOME VALUES GO UP, IT  
AND WHEN HOME VALUES GO UP, IT  
ALSO MEANS A BENEFIT TO         
ALSO MEANS A BENEFIT TO         
EVERYBODY ELSE THAT IS IN THAT  
EVERYBODY ELSE THAT IS IN THAT  
EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY.           
EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY.           
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WE ALSO SAW NEW CONSTRUCTION GO 
WE ALSO SAW NEW CONSTRUCTION GO 
UP WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.        
UP WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.        
SO WE HAD TOTAL SALES AND YOU'RE
SO WE HAD TOTAL SALES AND YOU'RE
LOOKING THERE, THE BLUE IS 2018.
LOOKING THERE, THE BLUE IS 2018.
THE ORANGE IS 2019, AND THE GRAY
THE ORANGE IS 2019, AND THE GRAY
IS 2020.                        
IS 2020.                        
SO 2020, WE'RE NOT EVEN ALL THE 
SO 2020, WE'RE NOT EVEN ALL THE 
WAY THROUGH THE YEAR AND SO FAR 
WAY THROUGH THE YEAR AND SO FAR 
WE'VE GOT 223 HOMES THAT HAVE   
WE'VE GOT 223 HOMES THAT HAVE   
BEEN SOLD.                      
BEEN SOLD.                      
IN TERMS OF NEW CONSTRUCTION,   
IN TERMS OF NEW CONSTRUCTION,   
LAST YEAR, WE HAD 61 NEW HOMES. 
LAST YEAR, WE HAD 61 NEW HOMES. 
THIS YEAR SO FAR WE HAVE 61 NEW 
THIS YEAR SO FAR WE HAVE 61 NEW 
HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT.     
HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT.     
THESE NEW CONSTRUCTION, WE'RE   
THESE NEW CONSTRUCTION, WE'RE   
SEEING MORE NEW CONSTRUCTION    
SEEING MORE NEW CONSTRUCTION    
HAPPENING THAT IS NOT -- DOESN'T
HAPPENING THAT IS NOT -- DOESN'T
HAVE ANY OF OUR FUNDING IN IT.  
HAVE ANY OF OUR FUNDING IN IT.  
AND THEN YOU ALSO SEE THE RESALE
AND THEN YOU ALSO SEE THE RESALE
NUMBERS AND WHAT WAS DONE BY    
NUMBERS AND WHAT WAS DONE BY    
DOMAIN.                         
DOMAIN.                         
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SO FROM 2012 TO 2017, THERE WERE
SO FROM 2012 TO 2017, THERE WERE
35 NEW HOMES BUILT IN EAST      
35 NEW HOMES BUILT IN EAST      
TAMPA.                          
TAMPA.                          
FROM 2018 TO JULY OF 2020, 140  
FROM 2018 TO JULY OF 2020, 140  
NEW HOMES HAVE BEEN BUILT.      
NEW HOMES HAVE BEEN BUILT.      
SO WE HAVE STIMULATED THE       
SO WE HAVE STIMULATED THE       
MARKET, WHICH WAS ONE OF OUR    
MARKET, WHICH WAS ONE OF OUR    
GOALS.                          
GOALS.                          
THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE IS NOW  
THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE IS NOW  
209,000.                        
209,000.                        
WE WENT FROM 170,000 AS AN      
WE WENT FROM 170,000 AS AN      
AVERAGE TO NOW 209, BUT WE ARE  
AVERAGE TO NOW 209, BUT WE ARE  
STILL BELOW THE 272,000, WHICH  
STILL BELOW THE 272,000, WHICH  
IS THE AVERAGE HOME SALES IN    
IS THE AVERAGE HOME SALES IN    
TAMPA.                          
TAMPA.                          
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SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PROGRAM  
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PROGRAM  
SUCCESSES, WE TOOK LOTS THAT    
SUCCESSES, WE TOOK LOTS THAT    
WERE A DETRIMENT TO THE         
WERE A DETRIMENT TO THE         
COMMUNITY AND WE GAVE THEM A NEW
COMMUNITY AND WE GAVE THEM A NEW
PURPOSE, AND SO THAT ELIMINATED 
PURPOSE, AND SO THAT ELIMINATED 
DUMPING SITES.                  
DUMPING SITES.                  
THAT IMPROVED PROPERTY VALUES.  
THAT IMPROVED PROPERTY VALUES.  
THE PROPERTIES THAT WE PROVIDED 
THE PROPERTIES THAT WE PROVIDED 
WERE VALUED AT 854,000.         
WERE VALUED AT 854,000.         
THEY ARE NOW VALUED AT OVER 16  
THEY ARE NOW VALUED AT OVER 16  
MILLION.                        
MILLION.                        
WHICH RESULT IN ABOUT 270,000 A 
WHICH RESULT IN ABOUT 270,000 A 
YEAR IN ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAX 
YEAR IN ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAX 
REVENUE FOR EAST TAMPA CRA.     
REVENUE FOR EAST TAMPA CRA.     
WITH THOSE PROPERTY VALUES GOING
WITH THOSE PROPERTY VALUES GOING
UP, WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE    
UP, WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE    
EQUITY FOR HOMEOWNERS WHO WERE  
EQUITY FOR HOMEOWNERS WHO WERE  
IN THE AREA AS WELL AS LOWER THE
IN THE AREA AS WELL AS LOWER THE
MONTHLY HOUSING COST FOR THE    
MONTHLY HOUSING COST FOR THE    
HOME BUYERS.                    
HOME BUYERS.                    
WE WERE ABLE TO STIMULATE THE   
WE WERE ABLE TO STIMULATE THE   
MARKET BY 350%.                 
MARKET BY 350%.                 
WE WERE ABLE TO SUPPORT OUR     
WE WERE ABLE TO SUPPORT OUR     
NONPROFIT AGENCIES.             
NONPROFIT AGENCIES.             
SO ALL OF THOSE HOUSING         
SO ALL OF THOSE HOUSING         
COUNSELING AGENCIES NOW HAVE A  
COUNSELING AGENCIES NOW HAVE A  
NEW REVENUE STREAM.             
NEW REVENUE STREAM.             
AND WE WERE ABLE TO STABILIZE   
AND WE WERE ABLE TO STABILIZE   
THE HOUSING MARKET WITHIN THE   
THE HOUSING MARKET WITHIN THE   
AREA.                           
AREA.                           
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SO THIS IS JUST THE RECAP OF ALL
SO THIS IS JUST THE RECAP OF ALL
THOSE POINTS OF WHAT WAS THE    
THOSE POINTS OF WHAT WAS THE    
BENEFIT TO THE RESIDENTS IN EAST
BENEFIT TO THE RESIDENTS IN EAST
TAMPA.                          
TAMPA.                          
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WE STARTED OUT WITH A NUMBER OF 
WE STARTED OUT WITH A NUMBER OF 
COMMUNITY ISSUES, AND WE WERE   
COMMUNITY ISSUES, AND WE WERE   
ABLE TO ADDRESS ALL OF THEM     
ABLE TO ADDRESS ALL OF THEM     
THROUGH THIS PROJECT.           
THROUGH THIS PROJECT.           
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WITH OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT,  
WITH OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT,  
WE ALSO GET TO LOOK AT THE FACT 
WE ALSO GET TO LOOK AT THE FACT 
THAT WHEN THIS PROJECT COMES TO 
THAT WHEN THIS PROJECT COMES TO 
A CONCLUSION, WE WILL RECEIVE   
A CONCLUSION, WE WILL RECEIVE   
BACK THAT $1.1 MILLION REVOLVER.
BACK THAT $1.1 MILLION REVOLVER.
SO WE HAD A RETURN ON INVESTMENT
SO WE HAD A RETURN ON INVESTMENT
OF 4:1.                         
OF 4:1.                         
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SO WE DO KNOW THAT WITH EVERY   
SO WE DO KNOW THAT WITH EVERY   
PROGRAM, PROJECT, ANYTHING THAT 
PROGRAM, PROJECT, ANYTHING THAT 
WE DO, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO  
WE DO, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO  
BE CHALLENGES.                  
BE CHALLENGES.                  
WE'RE NOT OBLIVIOUS TO THAT.    
WE'RE NOT OBLIVIOUS TO THAT.    
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IN TERMS OF REPLICATING A       
IN TERMS OF REPLICATING A       
PROGRAM LIKE THIS WE KNOW THAT  
PROGRAM LIKE THIS WE KNOW THAT  
WE HAVE LIMITED LOTS.           
WE HAVE LIMITED LOTS.           
AND SO WE ARE IN NEED OF A      
AND SO WE ARE IN NEED OF A      
MULTIPRONGED APPROACH TO        
MULTIPRONGED APPROACH TO        
ACQUIRING PROPERTY AND MAKING   
ACQUIRING PROPERTY AND MAKING   
SURE THAT IT REMAINS AFFORDABLE.
SURE THAT IT REMAINS AFFORDABLE.
WHEN IT CAME TO MESSAGING, ONE  
WHEN IT CAME TO MESSAGING, ONE  
OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS I THINK 
OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS I THINK 
WE HAD WITH THIS PROGRAM IS     
WE HAD WITH THIS PROGRAM IS     
THERE WAS A LOT OF              
THERE WAS A LOT OF              
MISINFORMATION OUT THERE, AND WE
MISINFORMATION OUT THERE, AND WE
PROBABLY COULD HAVE DONE --     
PROBABLY COULD HAVE DONE --     
SORRY, I KNOW WE COULD HAVE DONE
SORRY, I KNOW WE COULD HAVE DONE
A MUCH BETTER JOB OF PROMOTING  
A MUCH BETTER JOB OF PROMOTING  
THE PROGRAM AND PUTTING THE     
THE PROGRAM AND PUTTING THE     
FACTS OUT.                      
FACTS OUT.                      
WHEN IT CAME TO THE EQUITABLE   
WHEN IT CAME TO THE EQUITABLE   
SUPPORT, WE PROVIDED THE FUNDING
SUPPORT, WE PROVIDED THE FUNDING
TO DOMAIN AND TO THE THREE      
TO DOMAIN AND TO THE THREE      
PARTNERS, BUT THE FUNDS THAT    
PARTNERS, BUT THE FUNDS THAT    
WERE MADE AVAILABLE WERE NOT    
WERE MADE AVAILABLE WERE NOT    
EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED, WHICH DID  
EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED, WHICH DID  
CAUSE CDC TO NOT BE ABLE TO MOVE
CAUSE CDC TO NOT BE ABLE TO MOVE
AS QUICKLY AS THE OTHER         
AS QUICKLY AS THE OTHER         
PARTNERS.                       
PARTNERS.                       
THE LOTS THAT WE PROVIDED, WE   
THE LOTS THAT WE PROVIDED, WE   
FOUND THAT THEY HAD A LOT OF    
FOUND THAT THEY HAD A LOT OF    
ISSUES.                         
ISSUES.                         
THERE WERE TITLE ISSUES.        
THERE WERE TITLE ISSUES.        
THERE WERE INFRASTRUCTURE       
THERE WERE INFRASTRUCTURE       
ISSUES.                         
ISSUES.                         
THERE WERE ISSUES WITH THE      
THERE WERE ISSUES WITH THE      
OVERGROWTH AND THE TREES.       
OVERGROWTH AND THE TREES.       
ALL OF THAT ADDED TO THE COST.  
ALL OF THAT ADDED TO THE COST.  
WE PROVIDED A LOT READINESS FUND
WE PROVIDED A LOT READINESS FUND
TO ADDRESS THOSE COSTS, BUT IT  
TO ADDRESS THOSE COSTS, BUT IT  
WAS NOT ENOUGH, INCLUDING WE    
WAS NOT ENOUGH, INCLUDING WE    
PROVIDED FUNDING TO DO THE SUITS
PROVIDED FUNDING TO DO THE SUITS
TO QUIET TITLE, AND THAT WAS    
TO QUIET TITLE, AND THAT WAS    
ALSO NOT ENOUGH FUNDING TO COVER
ALSO NOT ENOUGH FUNDING TO COVER
THOSE.                          
THOSE.                          
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WANT
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WANT
TO LOOK AT ADDRESSING AS WE MOVE
TO LOOK AT ADDRESSING AS WE MOVE
FORWARD.                        
FORWARD.                        
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SO WHEN WE LOOK BACK ON THIS    
SO WHEN WE LOOK BACK ON THIS    
PROJECT, IT ACHIEVED THE GOALS  
PROJECT, IT ACHIEVED THE GOALS  
THAT WE SET OUT TO ACHIEVE, AND 
THAT WE SET OUT TO ACHIEVE, AND 
IT HELPED US TO CREATE A MARKET.
IT HELPED US TO CREATE A MARKET.
AND NOW THE MARKET IS TAKING    
AND NOW THE MARKET IS TAKING    
OVER.                           
OVER.                           
SO AS WE DRIVE THROUGH EAST     
SO AS WE DRIVE THROUGH EAST     
TAMPA, YOU CAN SEE A SIGN FOR A 
TAMPA, YOU CAN SEE A SIGN FOR A 
DOMAIN HOME, BUT YOU CAN ALSO   
DOMAIN HOME, BUT YOU CAN ALSO   
SEE SIGNS OF OTHER DEVELOPERS   
SEE SIGNS OF OTHER DEVELOPERS   
THAT ARE BUILDING WITHIN THE    
THAT ARE BUILDING WITHIN THE    
MARKET AND BRINGING MORE        
MARKET AND BRINGING MORE        
AMENITIES AND HIGHER PRICED     
AMENITIES AND HIGHER PRICED     
QUALITY HOUSING INTO THE AREA.  
QUALITY HOUSING INTO THE AREA.  
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SO IN TERMS OF OUR PATH FORWARD,
SO IN TERMS OF OUR PATH FORWARD,
AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, DOMAIN 
AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, DOMAIN 
WILL HAVE COMPLETED THEIR 75    
WILL HAVE COMPLETED THEIR 75    
HOMES.                          
HOMES.                          
20% OF THOSE HOMES WERE SOLD TO 
20% OF THOSE HOMES WERE SOLD TO 
FAMILIES AT 80% OF AREA MEDIAN  
FAMILIES AT 80% OF AREA MEDIAN  
INCOME OR BELOW.                
INCOME OR BELOW.                
THE AGREEMENT ACTUALLY CALLED   
THE AGREEMENT ACTUALLY CALLED   
FOR 10%, SO THEY ACTUALLY       
FOR 10%, SO THEY ACTUALLY       
DOUBLED THAT.                   
DOUBLED THAT.                   
AT THIS TIME, CDC AND DOMAIN ARE
AT THIS TIME, CDC AND DOMAIN ARE
WORKING ON A MUTUAL AGREEMENT TO
WORKING ON A MUTUAL AGREEMENT TO
DISSOLVE THEIR PARTNERSHIP.     
DISSOLVE THEIR PARTNERSHIP.     
CDC WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD ON   
CDC WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD ON   
THE LOTS THAT WERE DESIGNATED TO
THE LOTS THAT WERE DESIGNATED TO
THEM.                           
THEM.                           
THEY HAVE TEN PROPERTIES        
THEY HAVE TEN PROPERTIES        
DESIGNATED TO THEM.             
DESIGNATED TO THEM.             
DOMAIN WILL NO LONGER BE OVER   
DOMAIN WILL NO LONGER BE OVER   
THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE LOTS TO 
THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE LOTS TO 
-- CDC WHEN THE DISSOLUTION     
-- CDC WHEN THE DISSOLUTION     
OCCURS.                         
OCCURS.                         
AT THE END OF THE PROGRAM, LIKE 
AT THE END OF THE PROGRAM, LIKE 
I SAID, WE WILL GET THE         
I SAID, WE WILL GET THE         
REVOLVING LOAN FUNDS BACK, AND  
REVOLVING LOAN FUNDS BACK, AND  
WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS TO       
WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS TO       
FURTHER INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPERS  
FURTHER INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPERS  
TO BUILD ON INFILL LOTS.        
TO BUILD ON INFILL LOTS.        
WE ARE PROPOSING A COUPLE OF    
WE ARE PROPOSING A COUPLE OF    
INCENTIVES.                     
INCENTIVES.                     
THERE ARE THE ZONING INCENTIVES,
THERE ARE THE ZONING INCENTIVES,
BUT THERE ARE ALSO INCENTIVES   
BUT THERE ARE ALSO INCENTIVES   
THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT PROPOSING
THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT PROPOSING
THROUGH OUR DIVISION IN WAYS    
THROUGH OUR DIVISION IN WAYS    
THAT WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS TO  
THAT WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS TO  
HELP SPUR ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE 
HELP SPUR ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE 
HOUSING, BECAUSE WE WANT TO     
HOUSING, BECAUSE WE WANT TO     
CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE -- THERE  
CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE -- THERE  
WERE CITY-OWNED LOTS THAT ARE IN
WERE CITY-OWNED LOTS THAT ARE IN
THESE NEIGHBORHOODS TERRORIZING 
THESE NEIGHBORHOODS TERRORIZING 
THEIR NEIGHBORS WITH OVERGROWTH 
THEIR NEIGHBORS WITH OVERGROWTH 
AND BECOMING DUMPING SITES THAT 
AND BECOMING DUMPING SITES THAT 
COULD ALSO BE USED FOR          
COULD ALSO BE USED FOR          
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. 
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. 
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS WE CAN 
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS WE CAN 
CAPTURE THOSE PROPERTIES AND PUT
CAPTURE THOSE PROPERTIES AND PUT
THEM BACK INTO THE MARKET.      
THEM BACK INTO THE MARKET.      
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NONE OF THIS IS DONE BY ONE     
NONE OF THIS IS DONE BY ONE     
PERSON.                         
PERSON.                         
SO IT TAKES A TEAM.             
SO IT TAKES A TEAM.             
AND THIS IS THE CITY TEAM THAT  
AND THIS IS THE CITY TEAM THAT  
WORKED ON THE PROJECT.          
WORKED ON THE PROJECT.          
SO THERE WERE FOLKS FROM MY     
SO THERE WERE FOLKS FROM MY     
DIVISION AS WELL AS FROM THE    
DIVISION AS WELL AS FROM THE    
REAL ESTATE DIVISION, AND LEGAL.
REAL ESTATE DIVISION, AND LEGAL.
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AND SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU  
AND SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU  
AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE WITH
AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE WITH
THAT PROGRAM.                   
THAT PROGRAM.                   
AND AT THIS POINT IF THERE ARE  
AND AT THIS POINT IF THERE ARE  
ANY QUESTIONS, WE ARE HAPPY TO  
ANY QUESTIONS, WE ARE HAPPY TO  
ANSWER.                         
ANSWER.                         
>> CHAIR, I KNOW IT WAS A VERY  
>> CHAIR, I KNOW IT WAS A VERY  
LENGTHY PRESENTATION.           
LENGTHY PRESENTATION.           
I IT WAS INTENDED TO REALLY GET 
I IT WAS INTENDED TO REALLY GET 
INTO SOMEWHAT THE WEEDS OF THIS 
INTO SOMEWHAT THE WEEDS OF THIS 
PROGRAM, AS I THINK MANY OF US  
PROGRAM, AS I THINK MANY OF US  
KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY      
KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY      
OPINIONS ABOUT THE.             
OPINIONS ABOUT THE.             
AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME        
AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME        
MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT IT SO WE   
MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT IT SO WE   
WANTED TO TRY TO CLARIFY THE    
WANTED TO TRY TO CLARIFY THE    
HISTORY AND ORIGIN ANDANTES     
HISTORY AND ORIGIN ANDANTES     
CURRENTS STATE.                 
CURRENTS STATE.                 
AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S BEEN 
AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S BEEN 
SUCCESSFUL, BUT WE ARE VERY     
SUCCESSFUL, BUT WE ARE VERY     
HONEST AS WELL ABOUT GAPS AND   
HONEST AS WELL ABOUT GAPS AND   
WHAT OUR PLANS WOULD BE TO FILL 
WHAT OUR PLANS WOULD BE TO FILL 
THOSE MOVING FORWARD.           
THOSE MOVING FORWARD.           
SO AGAIN, I APPRECIATE VANESSA  
SO AGAIN, I APPRECIATE VANESSA  
AND HER TEAM FOR CARRYING THE   
AND HER TEAM FOR CARRYING THE   
LIST ON THIS.                   
LIST ON THIS.                   
AND I RECOGNIZE WE ARE CLOSE TO 
AND I RECOGNIZE WE ARE CLOSE TO 
THE LUNCH HOUR.                 
THE LUNCH HOUR.                 
WE ARE HAPPY TO STAY AROUND AND 
WE ARE HAPPY TO STAY AROUND AND 
TAKE QUESTIONS, HOWEVER YOU SEE 
TAKE QUESTIONS, HOWEVER YOU SEE 
FIT.                            
FIT.                            
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK 
I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK 
AND A LOT OF EFFORT AND TIME FOR
AND A LOT OF EFFORT AND TIME FOR
THE PRESENTATION AND IT ANSWER  
THE PRESENTATION AND IT ANSWER  
AS LOT OF QUESTIONS.            
AS LOT OF QUESTIONS.            
I AM GOING TO START DOWN THE    
I AM GOING TO START DOWN THE    
LINE WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND
LINE WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND
GO FROM THERE.                  
GO FROM THERE.                  
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE 
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE 
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?      
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?      
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  WELL, THERE 
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  WELL, THERE 
ARE SO MANY THAT I WILL JUST    
ARE SO MANY THAT I WILL JUST    
HOLD TO ANOTHER DATE WHEN I MEET
HOLD TO ANOTHER DATE WHEN I MEET
IN PERSON AND GO TOGETHER ON IT 
IN PERSON AND GO TOGETHER ON IT 
AND I WON'T TAKE TOO MUCH TIME. 
AND I WON'T TAKE TOO MUCH TIME. 
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.        
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.        
CHAIRMAN.                       
CHAIRMAN.                       
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  COUNCILMAN 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  COUNCILMAN 
CITRO.                          
CITRO.                          
>>JOSEPH CITRO:  NO, THANK YOU  
>>JOSEPH CITRO:  NO, THANK YOU  
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.           
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.           
I WILL DISCUSS LATER ON.        
I WILL DISCUSS LATER ON.        
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  COUNCILMAN 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  COUNCILMAN 
CARLSON.                        
CARLSON.                        
>>BILL CARLSON:  NO, THANK YOU. 
>>BILL CARLSON:  NO, THANK YOU. 
I HAVE HAD PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS
I HAVE HAD PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS
WITH THEM ABOUT THIS, TOO, AND I
WITH THEM ABOUT THIS, TOO, AND I
APPRECIATE THEM CLARIFYING FOR  
APPRECIATE THEM CLARIFYING FOR  
THE PUBLIC ALL THE DIFFERENT    
THE PUBLIC ALL THE DIFFERENT    
ASPECTS OF THIS.                
ASPECTS OF THIS.                
I THINK ONE OF THE PIECES OF    
I THINK ONE OF THE PIECES OF    
FEEDBACK I HEARD FROM OTHER     
FEEDBACK I HEARD FROM OTHER     
DEVELOPERS AND PRIVATE AND      
DEVELOPERS AND PRIVATE AND      
NONPROFIT IS JUST THAT THEY     
NONPROFIT IS JUST THAT THEY     
THOUGHT THE POLITICAL CLIMATE   
THOUGHT THE POLITICAL CLIMATE   
FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO WAS   
FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO WAS   
NOT SUCH THAT THEY WOULD BE     
NOT SUCH THAT THEY WOULD BE     
AWARDED AN RFP.                 
AWARDED AN RFP.                 
SO I AM GLAD NOW, AND THAT      
SO I AM GLAD NOW, AND THAT      
HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY SEES IT AS A
HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY SEES IT AS A
TRANSPARENT PROCESS, AND THAT IT
TRANSPARENT PROCESS, AND THAT IT
GIVES A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD TO  
GIVES A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD TO  
EVERYBODY BECAUSE WE NEED ALL   
EVERYBODY BECAUSE WE NEED ALL   
THE MONEY WE CAN GET AND ALL THE
THE MONEY WE CAN GET AND ALL THE
EFFORTS WE CAN GET.             
EFFORTS WE CAN GET.             
WITH EVERYTHING WE WILL DO,     
WITH EVERYTHING WE WILL DO,     
BENEFITS TO AN ENORMOUS PROBLEM.
BENEFITS TO AN ENORMOUS PROBLEM.
THANK YOU ALL.                  
THANK YOU ALL.                  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER.      
COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER.      
>>JOHN DINGFELDER:  THANK YOU,  
>>JOHN DINGFELDER:  THANK YOU,  
MR. CHAIRMAN.                   
MR. CHAIRMAN.                   
JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.     
JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.     
CAROL OR VANESSA, I'M NOT SURE  
CAROL OR VANESSA, I'M NOT SURE  
WHO WANTS TO ANSWER THIS.       
WHO WANTS TO ANSWER THIS.       
FIRST OFF, LET ME SAY THAT I    
FIRST OFF, LET ME SAY THAT I    
THINK PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITIES 
THINK PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITIES 
HAVE TAKEN POT SHOPS AT AMANDA  
HAVE TAKEN POT SHOPS AT AMANDA  
UNFAIRLY.                       
UNFAIRLY.                       
WE HAVE HEARD IT ON THE CAMPAIGN
WE HAVE HEARD IT ON THE CAMPAIGN
TRAIL.                          
TRAIL.                          
WE HAVE HEARD IT OVER THE LAST  
WE HAVE HEARD IT OVER THE LAST  
YEAR, A LITTLE BUTT LESS.       
YEAR, A LITTLE BUTT LESS.       
BUT I THINK IT'S UNFAIR, BECAUSE
BUT I THINK IT'S UNFAIR, BECAUSE
AS A PRIVATE DEVELOPER, THEY    
AS A PRIVATE DEVELOPER, THEY    
WERE MAKING A LOT OF MONEY JUST 
WERE MAKING A LOT OF MONEY JUST 
DOING THEIR OWN THING.          
DOING THEIR OWN THING.          
BUT THEN THEY SAW THIS FEED AND 
BUT THEN THEY SAW THIS FEED AND 
THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD 
THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD 
MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITIES AND   
MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITIES AND   
THEY WOULD STEP UP AND SEE IF   
THEY WOULD STEP UP AND SEE IF   
THEY COULD HELP.                
THEY COULD HELP.                
AND I COMMEND THEM FOR DOING    
AND I COMMEND THEM FOR DOING    
THAT.                           
THAT.                           
VANESSA, YOU MENTIONED A $10    
VANESSA, YOU MENTIONED A $10    
MILLION INVESTMENT.             
MILLION INVESTMENT.             
WHAT I AM CURIOUS ABOUT IS AS   
WHAT I AM CURIOUS ABOUT IS AS   
PART OF THE REPORTING           
PART OF THE REPORTING           
REQUIREMENTS, DO WE KNOW WHAT   
REQUIREMENTS, DO WE KNOW WHAT   
SORT OF PROFIT OR LOSS THAT     
SORT OF PROFIT OR LOSS THAT     
DOMAIN OR THIS DIVISION OF      
DOMAIN OR THIS DIVISION OF      
DOMAIN OBTAINED OR LOST, GETTING
DOMAIN OBTAINED OR LOST, GETTING
INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT?        
INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT?        
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 
DOMAIN LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE      
DOMAIN LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE      
BACKING AWAY A LITTLE BIT NOW   
BACKING AWAY A LITTLE BIT NOW   
WITH THE CDC, AND NOT BACK AWAY 
WITH THE CDC, AND NOT BACK AWAY 
FROM THE WHOLE PROGRAM, WHEN    
FROM THE WHOLE PROGRAM, WHEN    
THEY GET DONE WITH THE INITIAL  
THEY GET DONE WITH THE INITIAL  
PART OF IT.                     
PART OF IT.                     
BUT IS THIS SOMETHING WE CAN    
BUT IS THIS SOMETHING WE CAN    
SELL TO OTHER FOR-PROFIT FOLKS  
SELL TO OTHER FOR-PROFIT FOLKS  
AND SAY, COME JOIN US, YOU KNOW,
AND SAY, COME JOIN US, YOU KNOW,
THIS IS HOW MUCH MONEY DOMAIN   
THIS IS HOW MUCH MONEY DOMAIN   
MADE?                           
MADE?                           
DO WE KNOW THOSE FIGURES?       
DO WE KNOW THOSE FIGURES?       
DO WE HAVE THOSE FIGURES?       
DO WE HAVE THOSE FIGURES?       
>> WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE FIGURES.
>> WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE FIGURES.
BUT WE HAVE BEEN APPROACHED TABI
BUT WE HAVE BEEN APPROACHED TABI
A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS
A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS
WHO EVERYBODY SAT ON THE        
WHO EVERYBODY SAT ON THE        
SIDELINES AND DIDN'T WANT TO BE 
SIDELINES AND DIDN'T WANT TO BE 
THE FIRST ONES IN THAT ARE NOW  
THE FIRST ONES IN THAT ARE NOW  
READY TO GET INTO IT THE        
READY TO GET INTO IT THE        
PROGRAM, IF WE WOULD LAUNCH     
PROGRAM, IF WE WOULD LAUNCH     
AGAIN.                          
AGAIN.                          
>>JOHN DINGFELDER:  OKAY.       
>>JOHN DINGFELDER:  OKAY.       
I AM GOING TO INQUIRE PRIVATELY 
I AM GOING TO INQUIRE PRIVATELY 
WITH DOMAIN AND SEE IF THEY CAN 
WITH DOMAIN AND SEE IF THEY CAN 
HELP US ANSWER THAT, BECAUSE I  
HELP US ANSWER THAT, BECAUSE I  
THINK THAT'S A KEY QUESTION, ISS
THINK THAT'S A KEY QUESTION, ISS
THIS A PROFIT-MAKING VENTURE FOR
THIS A PROFIT-MAKING VENTURE FOR
A PRIVATE COMPANY OR IS THIS A  
A PRIVATE COMPANY OR IS THIS A  
LOSER?                          
LOSER?                          
MY NEXT QUESTION RELATES TO     
MY NEXT QUESTION RELATES TO     
COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.           
COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.           
AND I THINK I SAW ON ONE OF THE 
AND I THINK I SAW ON ONE OF THE 
SLIDE IT TALKS ABOUT A 99 YEAR  
SLIDE IT TALKS ABOUT A 99 YEAR  
LEASE, PROPERTY OWNER, PROPERTY 
LEASE, PROPERTY OWNER, PROPERTY 
OWNERS OVER 99-YEAR PERIOD.     
OWNERS OVER 99-YEAR PERIOD.     
IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME THAT       
IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME THAT       
CERTAIN LENDERS WILL LEND TO    
CERTAIN LENDERS WILL LEND TO    
SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO BUILD ON 
SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO BUILD ON 
LEASED PROPERTY?                
LEASED PROPERTY?                
>>VANESSA MCCLEARY:  YES.       
>>VANESSA MCCLEARY:  YES.       
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LENDERS,  
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LENDERS,  
AND THE LIST KEEPS GROWING AS   
AND THE LIST KEEPS GROWING AS   
THE PROGRAM HAS BECOME MORE AND 
THE PROGRAM HAS BECOME MORE AND 
MORE POPULAR.                   
MORE POPULAR.                   
THE 99-YEAR LEASE IS AKIN TO    
THE 99-YEAR LEASE IS AKIN TO    
OWNERSHIP.                      
OWNERSHIP.                      
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S PHRASED  
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S PHRASED  
THAT WAY.                       
THAT WAY.                       
BUT IT KEEPS RENEWING.          
BUT IT KEEPS RENEWING.          
>>JOHN DINGFELDER:  RIGHT.      
>>JOHN DINGFELDER:  RIGHT.      
RIGHT.                          
RIGHT.                          
OKAY.                           
OKAY.                           
SO THAT'S NOT A BARRIER, THAT'S 
SO THAT'S NOT A BARRIER, THAT'S 
NOT A BARRIER, LIKE IF WE COME  
NOT A BARRIER, LIKE IF WE COME  
UP WITH X NUMBER OF LOTS, AND WE
UP WITH X NUMBER OF LOTS, AND WE
PUT THEM INTO THE COMMUNITY LAND
PUT THEM INTO THE COMMUNITY LAND
TRUST, IT'S NOT A BARRIER FOR   
TRUST, IT'S NOT A BARRIER FOR   
PEOPLE TO COME ALONG AND BE ABLE
PEOPLE TO COME ALONG AND BE ABLE
TO BUILD THE TRADITIONAL HOME   
TO BUILD THE TRADITIONAL HOME   
AND GET A MORTGAGE FOR IT,      
AND GET A MORTGAGE FOR IT,      
ET CETERA?                      
ET CETERA?                      
CLEAR CLEAR CORRECT.            
CLEAR CLEAR CORRECT.            
NOT A BARRIER.                  
NOT A BARRIER.                  
>>CAROLE POST:  THIS IS CAROLE  
>>CAROLE POST:  THIS IS CAROLE  
POST TO SORT OF FOLLOW YOUR     
POST TO SORT OF FOLLOW YOUR     
TRAIN OF THOUGHT THERE.         
TRAIN OF THOUGHT THERE.         
THAT IS IN FACT WHAT VANESSA AND
THAT IS IN FACT WHAT VANESSA AND
HER TEAM ARE TO AN EXTENT       
HER TEAM ARE TO AN EXTENT       
PROPOSING.                      
PROPOSING.                      
IT'S IN VERY LARGE PRELIMINARY  
IT'S IN VERY LARGE PRELIMINARY  
PAGES, BUT BUILDING ON THE      
PAGES, BUT BUILDING ON THE      
ASPECTS OF THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE
ASPECTS OF THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE
TO CONTINUE THOSE SUCCESSFUL    
TO CONTINUE THOSE SUCCESSFUL    
ASPECTS, CAST A WIDER NET, AND  
ASPECTS, CAST A WIDER NET, AND  
ENABLE OTHER PRIVATE AND        
ENABLE OTHER PRIVATE AND        
FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPERS TO        
FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPERS TO        
PARTICIPATE IN IT.              
PARTICIPATE IN IT.              
BUT THAT THE UNDERLYING LAND    
BUT THAT THE UNDERLYING LAND    
WOULD FLOW THROUGH THIS         
WOULD FLOW THROUGH THIS         
COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.           
COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.           
THAT'S ONE THING THAT DID NOT   
THAT'S ONE THING THAT DID NOT   
EXIST FOR THESE 95 PARCELS.     
EXIST FOR THESE 95 PARCELS.     
WHILE THEY DO HAVE SOME DEED    
WHILE THEY DO HAVE SOME DEED    
RESTRICTIONS THAT WILL MAINTAIN 
RESTRICTIONS THAT WILL MAINTAIN 
SOME SUSTAINABILITY, I THINK TEN
SOME SUSTAINABILITY, I THINK TEN
YEARS, AT SOME POINT, THOSE     
YEARS, AT SOME POINT, THOSE     
RESTRICTIONS FALL OFF, AND      
RESTRICTIONS FALL OFF, AND      
THERE'S NO FURTHER HARD RAILS.  
THERE'S NO FURTHER HARD RAILS.  
SO WE WOULD PROPOSE THAT FUTURE 
SO WE WOULD PROPOSE THAT FUTURE 
PROGRAMS OF THIS SORT WOULD FLOW
PROGRAMS OF THIS SORT WOULD FLOW
THROUGH THE CLC AND HAVE MUCH   
THROUGH THE CLC AND HAVE MUCH   
LONGER TERM SUSTAINABILITY FOR  
LONGER TERM SUSTAINABILITY FOR  
AFFORDABILITY.                  
AFFORDABILITY.                  
>>JOHN DINGFELDER:  I THINK THAT
>>JOHN DINGFELDER:  I THINK THAT
SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.        
SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.        
IN TERMS OF SUSTAINABILITY, FOR 
IN TERMS OF SUSTAINABILITY, FOR 
THE SIZE OF THE PROGRAM, AS WE  
THE SIZE OF THE PROGRAM, AS WE  
START SEEING THE COMMUNITY      
START SEEING THE COMMUNITY      
EFFORT, AND TALKING ABOUT THE   
EFFORT, AND TALKING ABOUT THE   
AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND,  
AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND,  
OR THE CITY LAND TRUST, OR SOME 
OR THE CITY LAND TRUST, OR SOME 
OF THESE OTHER PROGRAMS, I AM   
OF THESE OTHER PROGRAMS, I AM   
GOING TO SUGGEST THAT YOU BRING 
GOING TO SUGGEST THAT YOU BRING 
THEM TO COUNCIL AND CODIFY IN   
THEM TO COUNCIL AND CODIFY IN   
THE CODE IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHE.
THE CODE IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHE.
>> SORRY.                       
>> SORRY.                       
SAY THAT AGAIN?                 
SAY THAT AGAIN?                 
>> MR. DINGFELDER, ARE YOU STILL
>> MR. DINGFELDER, ARE YOU STILL
ON THE CALL?                    
ON THE CALL?                    
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  MR.        
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  MR.        
DINGFELDER DISCONNECTED?        
DINGFELDER DISCONNECTED?        
>>THE CLERK:  I SHOW HIM STILL  
>>THE CLERK:  I SHOW HIM STILL  
BEING ON THE LINE.              
BEING ON THE LINE.              
>>JOHN DINGFELDER:  NOT THE LAND
>>JOHN DINGFELDER:  NOT THE LAND
USE CODE.                       
USE CODE.                       
SO AS WE GET SOME OF THESE IN   
SO AS WE GET SOME OF THESE IN   
PLACE, LET'S THINK ABOUT DOING  
PLACE, LET'S THINK ABOUT DOING  
THAT.                           
THAT.                           
>>CAROLE POST:  OKAY.           
>>CAROLE POST:  OKAY.           
>> THANK YOU.                   
>> THANK YOU.                   
YOU APPRECIATE IT.              
YOU APPRECIATE IT.              
WE MISSED A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR  
WE MISSED A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR  
THOUGHT BUT I THINK I CAN FOLLOW
THOUGHT BUT I THINK I CAN FOLLOW
ALONG.                          
ALONG.                          
AS I SAID, WE ARE RELYING ON    
AS I SAID, WE ARE RELYING ON    
FLORIDA HOUSING COALITION WHO   
FLORIDA HOUSING COALITION WHO   
BROUGHT A GREAT DEAL OF BEST    
BROUGHT A GREAT DEAL OF BEST    
PRACTICE TO THE TABLE, REALLY   
PRACTICE TO THE TABLE, REALLY   
DEMONSTRATING FOR US HOW OTHER  
DEMONSTRATING FOR US HOW OTHER  
JURISDICTIONS HAVE DONE THIS    
JURISDICTIONS HAVE DONE THIS    
SUCCESSFULLY, BUT WE ARE HAPPY  
SUCCESSFULLY, BUT WE ARE HAPPY  
TO SHARE SOME OF THOSE          
TO SHARE SOME OF THOSE          
APPROACHES BEFORE ALL THAT GETS 
APPROACHES BEFORE ALL THAT GETS 
FINALIZED.                      
FINALIZED.                      
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK.      
I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK.      
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.           
COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.           
COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES?           
COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES?           
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  CAN YOU HEAR  
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  CAN YOU HEAR  
ME, SIR?                        
ME, SIR?                        
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  GO AHEAD.  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  GO AHEAD.  
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  SORRY, SIR.   
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  SORRY, SIR.   
MS. POST, I'M SORRY.            
MS. POST, I'M SORRY.            
I DIDN'T RETURN YOUR PHONE CALL.
I DIDN'T RETURN YOUR PHONE CALL.
I GOT IN LATE LAST NIGHT AND I  
I GOT IN LATE LAST NIGHT AND I  
APOLOGIZE FOR NOT GETTING BACK  
APOLOGIZE FOR NOT GETTING BACK  
TO YOU LAST NIGHT.              
TO YOU LAST NIGHT.              
LET ME START START, EAST TAMPA  
LET ME START START, EAST TAMPA  
HAS A LOT OF LOTS.              
HAS A LOT OF LOTS.              
THEY MAY BE CITY OWNED OR THEY  
THEY MAY BE CITY OWNED OR THEY  
MAY BE JUST LOTS THAT ARE       
MAY BE JUST LOTS THAT ARE       
OVERGROWN, OLD ABANDONED HOUSES 
OVERGROWN, OLD ABANDONED HOUSES 
THAT MIGHT BE PRIVATE.          
THAT MIGHT BE PRIVATE.          
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE
LOTS AS WELL THAT ARE           
LOTS AS WELL THAT ARE           
UNDEVELOPED, HOUSES THAT ARE    
UNDEVELOPED, HOUSES THAT ARE    
DILAPIDATED, FALLING DOWN, SEE  
DILAPIDATED, FALLING DOWN, SEE  
IF WE CAN TRY TO ACQUIRE SOME OF
IF WE CAN TRY TO ACQUIRE SOME OF
THOSE PRIVATE LOTS TO BE ABLE TO
THOSE PRIVATE LOTS TO BE ABLE TO
ADD TO THE STOCK OF HOUSES IN   
ADD TO THE STOCK OF HOUSES IN   
THE EAST TAMPA AREA.            
THE EAST TAMPA AREA.            
I THINK THAT'S -- MAYBE CRA     
I THINK THAT'S -- MAYBE CRA     
START LOOKING AT MAYBE          
START LOOKING AT MAYBE          
PURCHASING SOME OF THESE LOTS TO
PURCHASING SOME OF THESE LOTS TO
CLEAN UP THE PLACE.             
CLEAN UP THE PLACE.             
AGAIN I LOOK AT BEAUTIFICATION. 
AGAIN I LOOK AT BEAUTIFICATION. 
WHEN PEOPLE SEE THINGS THAT ARE 
WHEN PEOPLE SEE THINGS THAT ARE 
MOVING IN THE RATE DIRECTION,   
MOVING IN THE RATE DIRECTION,   
THEY HAVE A BUY-IN AND YOU GET  
THEY HAVE A BUY-IN AND YOU GET  
ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT.           
ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT.           
SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN HAVE A
SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN HAVE A
CONVERSATION, TALK ABOUT EAST   
CONVERSATION, TALK ABOUT EAST   
TAMPA AND BE ABLE TO COME UP    
TAMPA AND BE ABLE TO COME UP    
WITH A PROGRAM TO ACQUIRE THE   
WITH A PROGRAM TO ACQUIRE THE   
REAL ESTATE DIVISION AND HELPING
REAL ESTATE DIVISION AND HELPING
THE REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT TO BE
THE REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT TO BE
PART OF THIS PROCESS TO GET SOME
PART OF THIS PROCESS TO GET SOME
OF THESE UNDERUTILIZED LOTS IN  
OF THESE UNDERUTILIZED LOTS IN  
THE AREA.                       
THE AREA.                       
NUMBER TWO, I'M FAMILIAR WITH   
NUMBER TWO, I'M FAMILIAR WITH   
THE DOMAIN HOMES SITUATION.     
THE DOMAIN HOMES SITUATION.     
I SIT ON THE BOARD WHEN DOMAIN  
I SIT ON THE BOARD WHEN DOMAIN  
WAS WORKING BUT I HEAR YOU BUT  
WAS WORKING BUT I HEAR YOU BUT  
THERE WERE SOME CIRCUMSTANCES   
THERE WERE SOME CIRCUMSTANCES   
WHERE I WAS AT THE TABLE WITH   
WHERE I WAS AT THE TABLE WITH   
DOMAIN AND SOME QUESTIONS THAT  
DOMAIN AND SOME QUESTIONS THAT  
WERE ASKED AND WE THOUGHT DO    
WERE ASKED AND WE THOUGHT DO    
MILE-PER-HOUR WAS NOT TRUTH NULL
MILE-PER-HOUR WAS NOT TRUTH NULL
AT THE TIME WHEN WE ASKED FOR   
AT THE TIME WHEN WE ASKED FOR   
SOME INFORMATION AND CAME BACK  
SOME INFORMATION AND CAME BACK  
AND KIND OF BLIND-SIDED.        
AND KIND OF BLIND-SIDED.        
SO YES, THEY ARE A GOOD COMPANY,
SO YES, THEY ARE A GOOD COMPANY,
AND AT TIMES THERE WAS A LACK OF
AND AT TIMES THERE WAS A LACK OF
COMMUNICATION ABOUT SOME ISSUES.
COMMUNICATION ABOUT SOME ISSUES.
BUT I AM GLAD TO SEE THEM 22ND  
BUT I AM GLAD TO SEE THEM 22ND  
STREET, 21st THAT WE HAVE       
STREET, 21st THAT WE HAVE       
SOME HOMES THAT LOOK BEAUTIFUL. 
SOME HOMES THAT LOOK BEAUTIFUL. 
I GUESS I AM KIND OF BIASED A   
I GUESS I AM KIND OF BIASED A   
LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I KIND OF    
LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I KIND OF    
LIKE -- AND I CAN TELL YOU,     
LIKE -- AND I CAN TELL YOU,     
MAYBE I AM BIASED BECAUSE THE   
MAYBE I AM BIASED BECAUSE THE   
WAY WHEN THERE IS A BRAND NEW   
WAY WHEN THERE IS A BRAND NEW   
HOME, AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A  
HOME, AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A  
BIG, BIG HOOPLA FOR A FAMILY TO 
BIG, BIG HOOPLA FOR A FAMILY TO 
BE ABLE TO WALK INTO A NEW      
BE ABLE TO WALK INTO A NEW      
PLACE, AND TO SAY I HAVE A PLACE
PLACE, AND TO SAY I HAVE A PLACE
TO LAY MY HEAD, WE HAVE GOT A   
TO LAY MY HEAD, WE HAVE GOT A   
HOME.                           
HOME.                           
I GUESS THAT'S MY LITTLE BIAS.  
I GUESS THAT'S MY LITTLE BIAS.  
BUT AGAIN, YOU DO A GREAT JOB AS
BUT AGAIN, YOU DO A GREAT JOB AS
WELL, BUT I AM JUST HOPING THAT 
WELL, BUT I AM JUST HOPING THAT 
WE CAN GET AGAIN MORE PEOPLE AS 
WE CAN GET AGAIN MORE PEOPLE AS 
PART OF THE PROCESS NOW.        
PART OF THE PROCESS NOW.        
I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT WE HAVE   
I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT WE HAVE   
SOME TRANSPARENCY.              
SOME TRANSPARENCY.              
WE HAD SOME GOOD POINTS AND WE  
WE HAD SOME GOOD POINTS AND WE  
HAD SOME LOW POINTS IN THE      
HAD SOME LOW POINTS IN THE      
PROGRAMS.                       
PROGRAMS.                       
SO GOING FORWARD I AM HOPING    
SO GOING FORWARD I AM HOPING    
THAT AGAIN WE DO BETTER, WE GET 
THAT AGAIN WE DO BETTER, WE GET 
MORE RED AND GET THINGS MOVING, 
MORE RED AND GET THINGS MOVING, 
AND I DO UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A   
AND I DO UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A   
LOT OF UNDEVELOPED LOTS THAT    
LOT OF UNDEVELOPED LOTS THAT    
HAVE JUST TORN-DOWN BUILDINGS ON
HAVE JUST TORN-DOWN BUILDINGS ON
THERE THAT COULD BE UTILIZED FOR
THERE THAT COULD BE UTILIZED FOR
REHAB.                          
REHAB.                          
MAYBE LOOK AT SOME OF THESE     
MAYBE LOOK AT SOME OF THESE     
HOMES THAT NEED SOME TENDER     
HOMES THAT NEED SOME TENDER     
LOVING CARE AND PURCHASE SOME   
LOVING CARE AND PURCHASE SOME   
HOMES, WE SELL THEM AND SEE HOW 
HOMES, WE SELL THEM AND SEE HOW 
WE CAN GET OUR MONEY BACK ON THE
WE CAN GET OUR MONEY BACK ON THE
BACK END AS IT RELATE TO SOME   
BACK END AS IT RELATE TO SOME   
OF THE STOCK ON THE EAST SIDE OF
OF THE STOCK ON THE EAST SIDE OF
TOWN.                           
TOWN.                           
LAST, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN A
LAST, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN A
PART OF THIS FOR A LONG TIME,   
PART OF THIS FOR A LONG TIME,   
THE BIG DEVELOPER STAKEHOLDERS, 
THE BIG DEVELOPER STAKEHOLDERS, 
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT?%         
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT?%         
I HEAR THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS  
I HEAR THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS  
THAT ARE NOT -- I SAY           
THAT ARE NOT -- I SAY           
ABOVEBOARD.                     
ABOVEBOARD.                     
I GUESS NOW WITH THE DOMAIN     
I GUESS NOW WITH THE DOMAIN     
SITUATION, WE KIND OF EVIDENCE  
SITUATION, WE KIND OF EVIDENCE  
SEVERED TIES.                   
>>VANESSA MCCLEARY:  NO GOOD    
DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.           
DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.           
I WILL SAY THEIR RELATIONSHIP   
I WILL SAY THEIR RELATIONSHIP   
HAS BEEN TENUOUS THROUGHOUT.    
HAS BEEN TENUOUS THROUGHOUT.    
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO         
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO         
NEGOTIATE THROUGH THAT.         
NEGOTIATE THROUGH THAT.         
AND I THINK SEVERING TIES IS    
AND I THINK SEVERING TIES IS    
PROBABLY THE BEST WAY FORWARD.  
PROBABLY THE BEST WAY FORWARD.  
AND SO WE ARE FACILITATING THAT 
AND SO WE ARE FACILITATING THAT 
PROCESS, AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL  
PROCESS, AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL  
GET EVERYBODY WHERE THEY NEED TO
GET EVERYBODY WHERE THEY NEED TO
BE SO WE CAN DO THAT.           
BE SO WE CAN DO THAT.           
AND AGAIN, IT'S A LESSON LEARNED
AND AGAIN, IT'S A LESSON LEARNED
IN TERMS OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WE
IN TERMS OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WE
WOULD PUT INTO AN AGREEMENT,    
WOULD PUT INTO AN AGREEMENT,    
JUST MAKING SURE THAT IT IS     
JUST MAKING SURE THAT IT IS     
TIGHTER AND WELL DEFINED AS TO  
TIGHTER AND WELL DEFINED AS TO  
WHO IS ENTITLED TO WHAT, EVEN   
WHO IS ENTITLED TO WHAT, EVEN   
THOUGH THEY BROUGHT THE         
THOUGH THEY BROUGHT THE         
PARTNERSHIP TO US, WE COULD HAVE
PARTNERSHIP TO US, WE COULD HAVE
DONE MORE TO PROTECT THE        
DONE MORE TO PROTECT THE        
NONPROFITS.                     
NONPROFITS.                     
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  THANK YOU.    
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  THANK YOU.    
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT WHEN I  
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT WHEN I  
TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THESE LOTS 
TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THESE LOTS 
THAT YOU HAVE, RUNDOWN HOUSES OR
THAT YOU HAVE, RUNDOWN HOUSES OR
HOUSES THAT COULD HAVE BEEN --  
HOUSES THAT COULD HAVE BEEN --  
AND TRYING TO OBTAIN SOME OF    
AND TRYING TO OBTAIN SOME OF    
THESE THINGS AND [RUSTLING      
THESE THINGS AND [RUSTLING      
PAPERS]                         
PAPERS]                         
>>VANESSA MCCLEARY:  THAT IS    
>>VANESSA MCCLEARY:  THAT IS    
SOMETHING WE ARE ACTIVELY       
SOMETHING WE ARE ACTIVELY       
LOOKING AT.                     
LOOKING AT.                     
SO YES, THAT'S ONE OF THE       
SO YES, THAT'S ONE OF THE       
REASONS, ONCE WE GET THE        
REASONS, ONCE WE GET THE        
COMMUNITY LAND TRUST DEVELOPED  
COMMUNITY LAND TRUST DEVELOPED  
THAT WE WOULD THEN START AN     
THAT WE WOULD THEN START AN     
AGGRESSIVE PROGRAM TO ACQUIRE   
AGGRESSIVE PROGRAM TO ACQUIRE   
AND ADD PROPERTIES THAT WE CAN  
AND ADD PROPERTIES THAT WE CAN  
THEN BEAUTIFY.                  
THEN BEAUTIFY.                  
WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THOSE    
WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THOSE    
VACANT LOTS, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT
VACANT LOTS, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT
ARE A DETRIMENT TO THE          
ARE A DETRIMENT TO THE          
COMMUNITY, THAT HAVE TAX LIENS  
COMMUNITY, THAT HAVE TAX LIENS  
AND THAT WE FORECLOSE ON THOSE  
AND THAT WE FORECLOSE ON THOSE  
AS A WAY OF ACQUIRING.          
AS A WAY OF ACQUIRING.          
WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT          
WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT          
PROPERTIES THAT IT'S NOT CLEAR  
PROPERTIES THAT IT'S NOT CLEAR  
WHO THE OWNER IS.               
WHO THE OWNER IS.               
FROM THE PREVIOUS OWNER PASSED  
FROM THE PREVIOUS OWNER PASSED  
AWAY, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY      
AWAY, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY      
FAMILY OR THE FAMILY DIDN'T WANT
FAMILY OR THE FAMILY DIDN'T WANT
THE PROPERTY, AND SO THOSE ARE  
THE PROPERTY, AND SO THOSE ARE  
ALSO OUT THERE.                 
ALSO OUT THERE.                 
WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT ALL OF   
WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT ALL OF   
THESE LOTS TO SEE HOW WE CAN    
THESE LOTS TO SEE HOW WE CAN    
BETTER UTILIZE THEM.            
BETTER UTILIZE THEM.            
>>CAROLE POST:  THIS IS CAROLE  
>>CAROLE POST:  THIS IS CAROLE  
POST AGAIN.                     
POST AGAIN.                     
JUST TO ADD ONE ADDITIONAL      
JUST TO ADD ONE ADDITIONAL      
DIMENSION TO THAT CONCEPT.      
DIMENSION TO THAT CONCEPT.      
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT   
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT   
AROUND IDENTIFYING SOME OF IT.  
AROUND IDENTIFYING SOME OF IT.  
THERE IS A REFRESH PROGRAM, I   
THERE IS A REFRESH PROGRAM, I   
WOULD SAY, INITIATED BY AN      
WOULD SAY, INITIATED BY AN      
OFFICIAL WHO RECONNECTED WITH   
OFFICIAL WHO RECONNECTED WITH   
OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM AND   
OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM AND   
OUR CRA LEADERSHIP WHO HAVE VERY
OUR CRA LEADERSHIP WHO HAVE VERY
MUCH BEEN TRYING TO ADVOCATE FOR
MUCH BEEN TRYING TO ADVOCATE FOR
THE CONDEMNATION OF ABANDONED,  
THE CONDEMNATION OF ABANDONED,  
DILAPIDATED, UNINHABITABLE HOMES
DILAPIDATED, UNINHABITABLE HOMES
THAT HAVE BECOME EYESORES AND   
THAT HAVE BECOME EYESORES AND   
FRANKLY VERY UNSAFE SITUATIONS, 
FRANKLY VERY UNSAFE SITUATIONS, 
AND REALLY WE WERE A LITTLE BIT 
AND REALLY WE WERE A LITTLE BIT 
IN OUR OWN WAY, AND SO I CREDIT 
IN OUR OWN WAY, AND SO I CREDIT 
JOHN HUTCHINSON WHO HAS         
JOHN HUTCHINSON WHO HAS         
RECONNECTED WITH SOME OF THE    
RECONNECTED WITH SOME OF THE    
PARTNERS ACROSS THE CITY.       
PARTNERS ACROSS THE CITY.       
THEY DID A FIELD TRIP A WEEK OR 
THEY DID A FIELD TRIP A WEEK OR 
SO AGO.                         
SO AGO.                         
I THINK THEY SAW ABOUT 12 OR 18 
I THINK THEY SAW ABOUT 12 OR 18 
PROPERTIES IN A DAY THAT WERE   
PROPERTIES IN A DAY THAT WERE   
VERY QUICK TO BE ABLE AND VERY  
VERY QUICK TO BE ABLE AND VERY  
DECISIVE, I THINK, ABOUT SAYING 
DECISIVE, I THINK, ABOUT SAYING 
THIS HOME IS NOT REHABBABLE, AND
THIS HOME IS NOT REHABBABLE, AND
IT'S NOT JUST AN EYESORE BUT    
IT'S NOT JUST AN EYESORE BUT    
IT'S AN UNSAFE SITUATION.       
IT'S AN UNSAFE SITUATION.       
SO THEY ARE TAKING VERY SWIFT   
SO THEY ARE TAKING VERY SWIFT   
ACTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME
ACTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME
CONDEMNATION PROCEEDINGS AROUND 
CONDEMNATION PROCEEDINGS AROUND 
THESE VACATED, ABANDONED        
THESE VACATED, ABANDONED        
PROPERTIES.                     
PROPERTIES.                     
JUST AGAIN ANOTHER TOOL IN THE  
JUST AGAIN ANOTHER TOOL IN THE  
TOOLKIT.                        
TOOLKIT.                        
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  I APPRECIATE  
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  I APPRECIATE  
THAT.                           
THAT.                           
BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE    
BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE    
THAT WE ARE LOOKING, MAKING SURE
THAT WE ARE LOOKING, MAKING SURE
THAT WE ARE FAIR TO PEOPLE, AND 
THAT WE ARE FAIR TO PEOPLE, AND 
IF WE ARE DOING IT MAKING SURE  
IF WE ARE DOING IT MAKING SURE  
THAT EVERY AVENUE FOR THE       
THAT EVERY AVENUE FOR THE       
HOMEOWNER, SOMEBODY TO MIKE SURE
HOMEOWNER, SOMEBODY TO MIKE SURE
THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY CAN DO
THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY CAN DO
TO FIX IT OR THEY WANT TO GIVE  
TO FIX IT OR THEY WANT TO GIVE  
IT TO THE CITY OR WE CAN GIVE   
IT TO THE CITY OR WE CAN GIVE   
THEM SOMETHING FOR THE PROPERTY 
THEM SOMETHING FOR THE PROPERTY 
AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL       
AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL       
AVENUES COVERED, RATHER THAN    
AVENUES COVERED, RATHER THAN    
THE CITY TAKING SOMEBODY'S HOME 
THE CITY TAKING SOMEBODY'S HOME 
OR PROPERTY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE
OR PROPERTY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE
WE HAVE ALL AVENUES COVERED.    
WE HAVE ALL AVENUES COVERED.    
>> AGREED.                      
>> AGREED.                      
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  I YIELD BACK  
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  I YIELD BACK  
TO THE CHAIR.%                  
TO THE CHAIR.%                  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
COUNCILMAN VIERA.               
COUNCILMAN VIERA.               
>>LUIS VIERA:  NONE, MR. CHAIR. 
>>LUIS VIERA:  NONE, MR. CHAIR. 
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANKS VERY
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANKS VERY
MUCH.                           
MUCH.                           
AND MY COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS   
AND MY COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS   
OFFLINE, I TALKED TO EACH ONE OF
OFFLINE, I TALKED TO EACH ONE OF
YOU AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE    
YOU AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE    
INFORMATION IN THE POWER POINT  
INFORMATION IN THE POWER POINT  
AND ALL THE WORK THAT HAS GONE  
AND ALL THE WORK THAT HAS GONE  
INTO THIS.                      
INTO THIS.                      
I KNOW THAT WE WANT TO SEE      
I KNOW THAT WE WANT TO SEE      
SUCCESS AND WE WANT TO SEE      
SUCCESS AND WE WANT TO SEE      
IMPROVEMENT, WE WANT TO SEE     
IMPROVEMENT, WE WANT TO SEE     
RESULTS.                        
RESULTS.                        
ALL RIGHT.                      
ALL RIGHT.                      
IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, THERE'S
IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, THERE'S
ONE OTHER ITEM IF WE WOULD LIKE 
ONE OTHER ITEM IF WE WOULD LIKE 
TO TAKE NO UP.                  
TO TAKE NO UP.                  
THAT THAT UP.                   
THAT THAT UP.                   
IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY COUNCIL    
IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY COUNCIL    
MEMBER CITRO, I BELIEVE.        
MEMBER CITRO, I BELIEVE.        
>>JOSEPH CITRO:  YES, MR. CHAIR.
>>JOSEPH CITRO:  YES, MR. CHAIR.
IF I MAY.                       
IF I MAY.                       
IT'S GETTING CLOSE TO 12:00 AND 
IT'S GETTING CLOSE TO 12:00 AND 
I WANT TO --                    
I WANT TO --                    
>>> IT'S AFTER 12:00.           
>>> IT'S AFTER 12:00.           
>>JOSEPH CITRO:  YES.           
>>JOSEPH CITRO:  YES.           
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S    
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S    
GIVEN THE AMPLE TIME IT         
GIVEN THE AMPLE TIME IT         
DESERVES.                       
DESERVES.                       
SO I AM WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY
SO I AM WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY
RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHETHER WE   
RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHETHER WE   
SHOULD BREAK, OR WE CAN HEAR    
SHOULD BREAK, OR WE CAN HEAR    
THIS NOW AND WAIT FOR A BREAK OR
THIS NOW AND WAIT FOR A BREAK OR
CLOSE TILL LATER ON.            
CLOSE TILL LATER ON.            
IT'S UP TO YOU, MR. CHAIR.      
IT'S UP TO YOU, MR. CHAIR.      
I'M JUST ASKING.                
I'M JUST ASKING.                
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  PROBABLY   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  PROBABLY   
GIVE US A BREAK BECAUSE WE ARE  
GIVE US A BREAK BECAUSE WE ARE  
VIRTUAL SO WE DON'T HAVE TO LOG 
VIRTUAL SO WE DON'T HAVE TO LOG 
OUT AND LOG BACK IN.            
OUT AND LOG BACK IN.            
IT'S BETTER THAT WE DON'T.      
IT'S BETTER THAT WE DON'T.      
IF WE WERE ON CAMERA AND IT'S ON
IF WE WERE ON CAMERA AND IT'S ON
VIDEO LIKE OPPORTUNITY WILL BE, 
VIDEO LIKE OPPORTUNITY WILL BE, 
THEN IT'S DIFFERENT.            
THEN IT'S DIFFERENT.            
BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A LENGTHY
BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A LENGTHY
DISCUSSION.                     
DISCUSSION.                     
BUT I SPEAK FOR MYSELF WHEN I   
BUT I SPEAK FOR MYSELF WHEN I   
SAY THAT.                       
SAY THAT.                       
IF ANYONE IS READY TO PRESENT,  
IF ANYONE IS READY TO PRESENT,  
GO AHEAD AND WE'LL GO INTO NEW  
GO AHEAD AND WE'LL GO INTO NEW  
BUSINESS.                       
BUSINESS.                       
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO PRESENT
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO PRESENT
ON THIS FINAL ITEM?             
ON THIS FINAL ITEM?             
HAWPE HAWPE THIS IS RUSSELL     
HAWPE HAWPE THIS IS RUSSELL     
HAUPERT.                        
HAUPERT.                        
BASICALLY, I CAN GIVE US A RECAP
BASICALLY, I CAN GIVE US A RECAP
OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS ITEM. 
OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS ITEM. 
AND WITH OTHER COUNCIL          
AND WITH OTHER COUNCIL          
DISCUSSION ON IT.               
DISCUSSION ON IT.               
AS YOU MAY RECALL, THIS ORIGINAL
AS YOU MAY RECALL, THIS ORIGINAL
REQUEST WAS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. 
REQUEST WAS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. 
WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE COULD DO  
WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE COULD DO  
TO GO GREEN.                    
TO GO GREEN.                    
THE CHIEF OF STAFF'S OFFICE GAVE
THE CHIEF OF STAFF'S OFFICE GAVE
US PERMISSION TO MOVE AHEAD WITH
US PERMISSION TO MOVE AHEAD WITH
SOME EMERGENCY FUNDING, AND ON  
SOME EMERGENCY FUNDING, AND ON  
THE COUNCIL'S PART AND THE CHIEF
THE COUNCIL'S PART AND THE CHIEF
OF STAFF'S PART TO BE A GREAT   
OF STAFF'S PART TO BE A GREAT   
STEP IN DIRECTION, BECAUSE WITH 
STEP IN DIRECTION, BECAUSE WITH 
US GOING FULLY VIRTUAL AND THE  
US GOING FULLY VIRTUAL AND THE  
INITIAL COST OF EQUIPMENT THAT  
INITIAL COST OF EQUIPMENT THAT  
YOU NEEDED IN PLACE IN ORDER TO 
YOU NEEDED IN PLACE IN ORDER TO 
TAKE CARE OF THOSE THINGS, IT   
TAKE CARE OF THOSE THINGS, IT   
BECAME AN IMPORTANT             
BECAME AN IMPORTANT             
CONSIDERATION FOR US.           
CONSIDERATION FOR US.           
SO JUST AS A SUMMARY OF WHERE WE
SO JUST AS A SUMMARY OF WHERE WE
ARE, WE HAVE WORKED WITH YOU TO 
ARE, WE HAVE WORKED WITH YOU TO 
PUT IN PLACE iPads AND LAPTOPS  
PUT IN PLACE iPads AND LAPTOPS  
JUST UNDER $10,000 WORTH OF     
JUST UNDER $10,000 WORTH OF     
EQUIPMENT.                      
EQUIPMENT.                      
WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED 3200 A YEAR
WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED 3200 A YEAR
IN CELLULAR DATA PLANS THAT GO  
IN CELLULAR DATA PLANS THAT GO  
ALONG WITH THAT.                
ALONG WITH THAT.                
WE DEPLOYED LICENSING FOR ABOUT 
WE DEPLOYED LICENSING FOR ABOUT 
$6700 IN UP-TO-DATE SOFTWARE FOR
$6700 IN UP-TO-DATE SOFTWARE FOR
YOUR OFFICE, I TEAMS AND OTHER  
YOUR OFFICE, I TEAMS AND OTHER  
COLLABORATION SOFTWARE.         
COLLABORATION SOFTWARE.         
FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT, MY   
FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT, MY   
INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGER, MY      
INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGER, MY      
CHANGE MANAGEMENT FOLKS AND OUR 
CHANGE MANAGEMENT FOLKS AND OUR 
BUSINESS APPLICATION FOLKS, YOU 
BUSINESS APPLICATION FOLKS, YOU 
KNOW, ERIC MARILYN AND JOE HAGGE
KNOW, ERIC MARILYN AND JOE HAGGE
ALL WORKED WITH THE CLERK'S     
ALL WORKED WITH THE CLERK'S     
OFFICE, YOUR OWN EXECUTIVE      
OFFICE, YOUR OWN EXECUTIVE      
AIDES, TO HELP MOVE FORWARD A   
AIDES, TO HELP MOVE FORWARD A   
COUPLE OF THINGS, GET YOU       
COUPLE OF THINGS, GET YOU       
TRAINED WHERE YOU NEED TO BE AS 
TRAINED WHERE YOU NEED TO BE AS 
FAR AS USING THE EQUIPMENT THAT 
FAR AS USING THE EQUIPMENT THAT 
WE HAVE, AND THE SOFTWARE       
WE HAVE, AND THE SOFTWARE       
SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY.   
SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY.   
AND I FEEL WE HAVE MADE A LOT OF
AND I FEEL WE HAVE MADE A LOT OF
PROGRESS THERE, AND I THINK WE  
PROGRESS THERE, AND I THINK WE  
HAVE ENABLED A LOT OF WHERE YOU 
HAVE ENABLED A LOT OF WHERE YOU 
NEEDED TO GO FROM A GENERAL     
NEEDED TO GO FROM A GENERAL     
STANDPOINT IN GOING GREEN.      
STANDPOINT IN GOING GREEN.      
WE HAVE SOME TRAINING THAT'S    
WE HAVE SOME TRAINING THAT'S    
GOING TO BE COMING UP.          
GOING TO BE COMING UP.          
WE HAD SOME SO FAR.             
WE HAD SOME SO FAR.             
WE HAVE ONE COMING UP WITH YOUR 
WE HAVE ONE COMING UP WITH YOUR 
STAFF.                          
STAFF.                          
AND SO FROM THIS POINT ON, SAY, 
AND SO FROM THIS POINT ON, SAY, 
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT WHERE WE  
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT WHERE WE  
ARE?                            
ARE?                            
AND DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL  
AND DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL  
DIRECTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO
DIRECTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO
SEE US TAKE IN TERMS OF HELPING 
SEE US TAKE IN TERMS OF HELPING 
YOU GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER     
YOU GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER     
ALONG THIS PATH?                
ALONG THIS PATH?                
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  COUNCILMAN 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  COUNCILMAN 
CITRO, UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES  
CITRO, UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES  
YOUR ITEM.                      
YOUR ITEM.                      
WOULD YOU LIKE TO START IT OFF? 
WOULD YOU LIKE TO START IT OFF? 
>>JOSEPH CITRO:  THANK YOU VERY,
>>JOSEPH CITRO:  THANK YOU VERY,
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
FIRST I WANT TO SEND OUT MUCH   
FIRST I WANT TO SEND OUT MUCH   
KUDOS TO THE I.T. TEAM.         
KUDOS TO THE I.T. TEAM.         
THEY HAVE BEEN GREAT THROUGHOUT 
THEY HAVE BEEN GREAT THROUGHOUT 
THIS WHOLE PROCESS.             
THIS WHOLE PROCESS.             
ESPECIALLY WITH THE COVID       
ESPECIALLY WITH THE COVID       
CRISIS.                         
CRISIS.                         
AND THEY HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY    
AND THEY HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY    
ADAPTIVE.                       
ADAPTIVE.                       
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I AM NOW ON
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I AM NOW ON
MY CITY-ISSUED iPad.            
MY CITY-ISSUED iPad.            
THIS IS NOTHING NEW TO ME.      
THIS IS NOTHING NEW TO ME.      
I HAVE BEEN USING A COMPUTER    
I HAVE BEEN USING A COMPUTER    
DURING MY VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD 
DURING MY VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD 
ERA.                            
ERA.                            
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF         
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF         
QUESTIONS AND LET ME SEE IF I   
QUESTIONS AND LET ME SEE IF I   
CAN GET THEM OUT SO MAYBE YOU   
CAN GET THEM OUT SO MAYBE YOU   
CAN ANSWER THEM.                
CAN ANSWER THEM.                
FIRST OFF, HOW MUCH DOES THE    
FIRST OFF, HOW MUCH DOES THE    
CITY COUNCIL SPEND -- (LOST     
CITY COUNCIL SPEND -- (LOST     
AUDIO).                         
AUDIO).                         
PRINTER CONTRACTS, ESPECIALLY   
PRINTER CONTRACTS, ESPECIALLY   
HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK IT   
HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK IT   
CONSUMES THE STAFF AND THE AIDE,
CONSUMES THE STAFF AND THE AIDE,
AND HOW MUCH WASTE ARE WE TAKING
AND HOW MUCH WASTE ARE WE TAKING
OUT OF THIS BUSINESS BECAUSE OF 
OUT OF THIS BUSINESS BECAUSE OF 
PAPER USE?                      
PAPER USE?                      
SECONDLY, IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT 
SECONDLY, IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT 
ARE THE BEST WAYS TO MOVE       
ARE THE BEST WAYS TO MOVE       
FORWARD THROUGH I.T. SUPPORT AND
FORWARD THROUGH I.T. SUPPORT AND
THE FUNCTION OF CITY COUNCIL AND
THE FUNCTION OF CITY COUNCIL AND
THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND ALL 
THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND ALL 
OTHER IMPACTED OFFICES STILL TO 
OTHER IMPACTED OFFICES STILL TO 
REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT,    
REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT,    
SAVING TAXPAYERS DOLLARS?       
SAVING TAXPAYERS DOLLARS?       
IF YOU CAN ANSWER THOSE TWO     
IF YOU CAN ANSWER THOSE TWO     
QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE EXTREMELY 
QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE EXTREMELY 
HAPPY.                          
HAPPY.                          
>> WELL, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I AM
>> WELL, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I AM
GOING TO SPECULATE.             
GOING TO SPECULATE.             
THIS IS RUSSELL, CITY OF TAMPA  
THIS IS RUSSELL, CITY OF TAMPA  
AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD.          
AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD.          
IF I CAN SPECULATE ON THE FIRST 
IF I CAN SPECULATE ON THE FIRST 
ONE, I DIDN'T PUT A LOT OF WORK 
ONE, I DIDN'T PUT A LOT OF WORK 
INTO FINDING OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE
INTO FINDING OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE
DO.                             
DO.                             
BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS IN MY
BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS IN MY
PREVIOUS JOB AT A COUNTY, BEFORE
PREVIOUS JOB AT A COUNTY, BEFORE
I CAME TO THE CITY HERE, WE HAD 
I CAME TO THE CITY HERE, WE HAD 
GONE THROUGH A SIMILAR PROCESS, 
GONE THROUGH A SIMILAR PROCESS, 
AND WE FOUND THAT WE MIGHT HAVE 
AND WE FOUND THAT WE MIGHT HAVE 
SPENT AS MUCH AS 8 TO $10,000 A 
SPENT AS MUCH AS 8 TO $10,000 A 
YEAR IN COPYING COSTS AND JUST  
YEAR IN COPYING COSTS AND JUST  
IN DIRECT PAPER AND COPYING     
IN DIRECT PAPER AND COPYING     
COSTS TO SUPPORT THE COUNCIL    
COSTS TO SUPPORT THE COUNCIL    
PROCESS.                        
PROCESS.                        
WHEN YOU ADD IN THE STAFF TIME  
WHEN YOU ADD IN THE STAFF TIME  
THAT IS DOING THAT, IT'S        
THAT IS DOING THAT, IT'S        
INCONCEIVABLE THAT WE MIGHT SAVE
INCONCEIVABLE THAT WE MIGHT SAVE
$10,000 A YEAR ENERGY AND       
$10,000 A YEAR ENERGY AND       
CONVENIENCE IN DOING THAT.      
CONVENIENCE IN DOING THAT.      
I CAN CERTAINLY PULL THROUGH AND
I CAN CERTAINLY PULL THROUGH AND
FIND BETTER NUMBERS FOR US.     
FIND BETTER NUMBERS FOR US.     
BUT TO GIVE YOU AN ORDER OF     
BUT TO GIVE YOU AN ORDER OF     
SCALE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A   
SCALE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A   
NUMBER BASED ON AMOUNT OF HAND  
NUMBER BASED ON AMOUNT OF HAND  
WORK THAT GOES INTO GETTING THE 
WORK THAT GOES INTO GETTING THE 
DOCUMENTS TO THOSE FOLKS.       
DOCUMENTS TO THOSE FOLKS.       
NOW, I WILL TELL YOU THAT FROM  
NOW, I WILL TELL YOU THAT FROM  
OUR PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S A      
OUR PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S A      
VARIETY OF -- SOMETIMES         
VARIETY OF -- SOMETIMES         
ELECTRONIC IS GREAT, BUT IF YOU 
ELECTRONIC IS GREAT, BUT IF YOU 
ARE ON THE BUS OR SITTING ON THE
ARE ON THE BUS OR SITTING ON THE
BEACH, SOMETIMES HAVING THAT    
BEACH, SOMETIMES HAVING THAT    
PAPER COPY CAN BE A NICE THING. 
PAPER COPY CAN BE A NICE THING. 
AND WE DON'T WANT TO ELIMINATE  
AND WE DON'T WANT TO ELIMINATE  
ANYTHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS   
ANYTHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS   
FIND, YOU KNOW, A BOON TO THEIR 
FIND, YOU KNOW, A BOON TO THEIR 
WORK STYLE, BUT WE DO FEEL THAT 
WORK STYLE, BUT WE DO FEEL THAT 
BY DEPLOYMENT, NOT ONLY HAVE WE 
BY DEPLOYMENT, NOT ONLY HAVE WE 
ENABLED YOU TO WORK FROM        
ENABLED YOU TO WORK FROM        
WHEREVER YOU HAPPEN TO BE WITH  
WHEREVER YOU HAPPEN TO BE WITH  
THE LIMITS OF CONNECTIVITY IN   
THE LIMITS OF CONNECTIVITY IN   
THE CELLULAR SYSTEM TODAY, BUT  
THE CELLULAR SYSTEM TODAY, BUT  
WE ALSO GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO 
WE ALSO GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO 
BE MORE FLEXIBLE.               
BE MORE FLEXIBLE.               
AND WE ARE SAVING A LOT OF PAPER
AND WE ARE SAVING A LOT OF PAPER
COSTS AS WE BRING PEOPLE TOWARD 
COSTS AS WE BRING PEOPLE TOWARD 
THE ACTUAL PROCESS OF GETTING   
THE ACTUAL PROCESS OF GETTING   
USED TO PULLING THINGS UP ON    
USED TO PULLING THINGS UP ON    
THEIR iPad AND DOING THEIR      
THEIR iPad AND DOING THEIR      
RESEARCH IN THAT DIRECTION.     
RESEARCH IN THAT DIRECTION.     
YOU KNOW, SECONDARILY, WHERE    
YOU KNOW, SECONDARILY, WHERE    
WOULD I GO FROM HERE?           
WOULD I GO FROM HERE?           
I DON'T WANT TO PUSH TECHNOLOGY 
I DON'T WANT TO PUSH TECHNOLOGY 
ON FOLKS.                       
ON FOLKS.                       
BUT I FEEL LIKE THESE COVID     
BUT I FEEL LIKE THESE COVID     
TIMES MADE US ALL BE A LITTLE   
TIMES MADE US ALL BE A LITTLE   
MORE FLEXIBLE.                  
MORE FLEXIBLE.                  
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EXECUTIVES  
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EXECUTIVES  
AND COUNCIL TRAINED AS FULLY AS 
AND COUNCIL TRAINED AS FULLY AS 
THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE IN ALL THE
THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE IN ALL THE
NEW TECHNOLOGY WE DO HAVE AT    
NEW TECHNOLOGY WE DO HAVE AT    
THEIR DISPOSAL.                 
THEIR DISPOSAL.                 
I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THEY HAVE
I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THEY HAVE
A MEETING THEY WANT TO SET UP   
A MEETING THEY WANT TO SET UP   
THEY HAVE THAT CAPABILITY.      
THEY HAVE THAT CAPABILITY.      
I KNOW FROM A BUDGET            
I KNOW FROM A BUDGET            
PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD LIKE TO    
PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD LIKE TO    
MAKE SURE THAT THE SYSTEMS THAT 
MAKE SURE THAT THE SYSTEMS THAT 
YOU GUYS HAVE ON A REGULAR BASIS
YOU GUYS HAVE ON A REGULAR BASIS
ARE UPGRADED AND REPLACED AS    
ARE UPGRADED AND REPLACED AS    
PART OF YOUR NORMAL BUDGET      
PART OF YOUR NORMAL BUDGET      
PROCESS.                        
PROCESS.                        
I KNOW THAT HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN A
I KNOW THAT HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN A
PRIORITY, BUT I THINK THAT      
PRIORITY, BUT I THINK THAT      
AGAIN, IN THESE DAYS AS YOU CAN 
AGAIN, IN THESE DAYS AS YOU CAN 
SEE, A POWER OUTAGE, A STORM,   
SEE, A POWER OUTAGE, A STORM,   
HAVING A SECONDARY DEVICE AND A 
HAVING A SECONDARY DEVICE AND A 
WAY TO GET IN CAN BE THE        
WAY TO GET IN CAN BE THE        
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING ABLE TO
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING ABLE TO
HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING AND NOT  
HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING AND NOT  
HAVING A FORUM TO HAVE ONE.     
HAVING A FORUM TO HAVE ONE.     
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE  
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE  
SHOULD CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD. 
SHOULD CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD. 
AGAIN FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WHAT 
AGAIN FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WHAT 
I WOULD JUST SAY IS I WOULD LIKE
I WOULD JUST SAY IS I WOULD LIKE
A CHANCE TO FURTHER SIT DOWN    
A CHANCE TO FURTHER SIT DOWN    
WITH YOU.                       
WITH YOU.                       
I KNOW ERIC, AND MY STAFF HAS   
I KNOW ERIC, AND MY STAFF HAS   
DONE A LOT OF INITIAL WORK, BUT 
DONE A LOT OF INITIAL WORK, BUT 
I WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN AND    
I WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN AND    
CHAT WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS AND   
CHAT WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS AND   
YOUR STAFF AND SAY WHERE ELSE   
YOUR STAFF AND SAY WHERE ELSE   
CAN WE TAKE YOU ON THIS JOURNEY 
CAN WE TAKE YOU ON THIS JOURNEY 
AND LET'S LOOK FOR WHERE THOSE  
AND LET'S LOOK FOR WHERE THOSE  
ADDITIONAL SAVINGS ARE.         
ADDITIONAL SAVINGS ARE.         
AND I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO NOT
AND I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO NOT
FOCUS JUST ON SAVINGS AND PAPER 
FOCUS JUST ON SAVINGS AND PAPER 
OR GOING GREEN, WHICH IS A GOOD 
OR GOING GREEN, WHICH IS A GOOD 
THING IN ITS OWN, BUT I WOULD   
THING IN ITS OWN, BUT I WOULD   
LIKE TO SEE HOW CLOSER CAN WE   
LIKE TO SEE HOW CLOSER CAN WE   
BRING YOU TO A FASTER PROCESS?  
BRING YOU TO A FASTER PROCESS?  
HOW MUCH BETTER CAN WE GET      
HOW MUCH BETTER CAN WE GET      
INFORMATION TO YOU?             
INFORMATION TO YOU?             
HOW CAN WE SMOOTH THE ABILITY   
HOW CAN WE SMOOTH THE ABILITY   
FOR YOU TO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS  
FOR YOU TO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS  
THROUGH THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY?  
THROUGH THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY?  
AND IF WE CAN DO THAT, IF WE CAN
AND IF WE CAN DO THAT, IF WE CAN
HELP YOU BECOME MORE EFFECTIVE  
HELP YOU BECOME MORE EFFECTIVE  
IN YOUR DAILY WORK, THEN I THINK
IN YOUR DAILY WORK, THEN I THINK
THAT'S WHERE THE REAL SAVINGS IS
THAT'S WHERE THE REAL SAVINGS IS
GOING TO BE.                    
GOING TO BE.                    
AND UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY --      
AND UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY --      
THAT'S MY BASIC COMMENT.        
THAT'S MY BASIC COMMENT.        
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DIG IN A   
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DIG IN A   
LITTLE BIT, LET ME KNOW.        
LITTLE BIT, LET ME KNOW.        
IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO DO A    
IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO DO A    
LITTLE MORE RESEARCH FOR        
LITTLE MORE RESEARCH FOR        
SPECIFICS, I CAN DO THAT AS     
SPECIFICS, I CAN DO THAT AS     
WELL.                           
WELL.                           
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  ALL RIGHT. 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  ALL RIGHT. 
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
>>JOSEPH CITRO:  MR. CHAIR, IF I
>>JOSEPH CITRO:  MR. CHAIR, IF I
MAY.                            
MAY.                            
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR    
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR    
ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS.        
ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS.        
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WE CAN'T 
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WE CAN'T 
NECESSARILY DO AWAY WITH PAPER. 
NECESSARILY DO AWAY WITH PAPER. 
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE  
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE  
STILL OLD SCHOOL.               
STILL OLD SCHOOL.               
BUT IN THE FUTURE, WE MAY BE    
BUT IN THE FUTURE, WE MAY BE    
FACING SOME EMERGENCIES.        
FACING SOME EMERGENCIES.        
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL BE    
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL BE    
LIKE COVID, BUT THERE IS GOING  
LIKE COVID, BUT THERE IS GOING  
TO BE A TIME WHEN, YES, WE WILL 
TO BE A TIME WHEN, YES, WE WILL 
BE APART FROM ONE ANOTHER AND I 
BE APART FROM ONE ANOTHER AND I 
FEEL THAT YOUR TEAM HAS REALLY  
FEEL THAT YOUR TEAM HAS REALLY  
TAKEN US TO THE NEXT STEP BY    
TAKEN US TO THE NEXT STEP BY    
OFFERING iPads, COMPUTERS, AND  
OFFERING iPads, COMPUTERS, AND  
A CONNECTIVITY THAT WE WILL NEED
A CONNECTIVITY THAT WE WILL NEED
IN CASE OF ANOTHER EMERGENCY.   
IN CASE OF ANOTHER EMERGENCY.   
SO AGAIN, I THANK YOU VERY, VERY
SO AGAIN, I THANK YOU VERY, VERY
MUCH.                           
MUCH.                           
MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
AND QUICKLY, UPGRADING SIRE AND 
AND QUICKLY, UPGRADING SIRE AND 
LOOKING AT A MORE MODERNIZED    
LOOKING AT A MORE MODERNIZED    
SYSTEM, MORE EFFICIENT, I HEAR  
SYSTEM, MORE EFFICIENT, I HEAR  
COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT ALL THE     
COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT ALL THE     
TIME.                           
TIME.                           
WE CAN LOOK AT A NEW MANAGEMENT 
WE CAN LOOK AT A NEW MANAGEMENT 
SYSTEM AND THAT CALIBER BETTER, 
SYSTEM AND THAT CALIBER BETTER, 
I THINK THAT SIRE IS A LITTLE   
I THINK THAT SIRE IS A LITTLE   
OUTDATED FOR OUR NEEDS.         
OUTDATED FOR OUR NEEDS.         
BUT YOU HAVE DONE A LOT.        
BUT YOU HAVE DONE A LOT.        
YOU HAVE ANSWERED A LOT.        
YOU HAVE ANSWERED A LOT.        
YOU ARE MAKING STRIDES.         
YOU ARE MAKING STRIDES.         
I MYSELF DO NOT LIKE TO USE     
I MYSELF DO NOT LIKE TO USE     
PAPER.                          
PAPER.                          
I DO PRINT UP THE CALENDAR.     
I DO PRINT UP THE CALENDAR.     
I PRINT UP AN AGENDA.           
I PRINT UP AN AGENDA.           
BUT EVERYTHING ELSE I TRY TO DO 
BUT EVERYTHING ELSE I TRY TO DO 
DIGITALLY AND ELECTRONICALLY    
DIGITALLY AND ELECTRONICALLY    
SINCE I GOT ELECTED IN 2015.    
SINCE I GOT ELECTED IN 2015.    
I BROUGHT MY OWN iPad.          
I BROUGHT MY OWN iPad.          
I AM JUST USED TO BEING ON MY   
I AM JUST USED TO BEING ON MY   
PHONE AND DOING EVERYTHING      
PHONE AND DOING EVERYTHING      
DIGITAL.                        
DIGITAL.                        
SO ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS    
SO ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS    
HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS  
HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS  
ON THIS ITEM?                   
ON THIS ITEM?                   
OKAY.                           
OKAY.                           
GREAT.                          
GREAT.                          
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.            
ALL RIGHT.                      
ALL RIGHT.                      
WE WILL GO TO NEW BUSINESS.     
WE WILL GO TO NEW BUSINESS.     
I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES THE    
I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES THE    
AGENDA.                         
AGENDA.                         
NEW BUSINESS FROM COUNCIL       
NEW BUSINESS FROM COUNCIL       
MEMBERS?                        
MEMBERS?                        
I AM GOING TO BEGIN WITH COUNCIL
I AM GOING TO BEGIN WITH COUNCIL
MEMBER VIERA.                   
MEMBER VIERA.                   
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS    
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS    
TIME, SIR?                      
TIME, SIR?                      
>>LUIS VIERA:  YES, SIR, MR.    
>>LUIS VIERA:  YES, SIR, MR.    
CHAIR.                          
CHAIR.                          
THANK YOU SO MUCH.              
THANK YOU SO MUCH.              
JUST REALLY QUICK IF I MAY.     
JUST REALLY QUICK IF I MAY.     
I WAS GOING TO PRESENT THE TAMPA
I WAS GOING TO PRESENT THE TAMPA
CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION AT A  
CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION AT A  
TIME TO BE DETERMINED AT A      
TIME TO BE DETERMINED AT A      
LOCATION TO BE DETERMINED, BUT  
LOCATION TO BE DETERMINED, BUT  
NOT A PERSON TO BE DETERMINED   
NOT A PERSON TO BE DETERMINED   
BECAUSE I WILL HEREBY SPECIFY   
BECAUSE I WILL HEREBY SPECIFY   
JUDGE GREG HOLDER WHO WILL BE   
JUDGE GREG HOLDER WHO WILL BE   
RETIRING, AND I THINK IT IS LIKE
RETIRING, AND I THINK IT IS LIKE
90 DAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT  
90 DAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT  
FOR HIS YEARS OF SERVICE TO     
FOR HIS YEARS OF SERVICE TO     
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND THE     
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND THE     
13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT AS A      
13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT AS A      
JUDGE.                          
JUDGE.                          
HE'S A GREAT INDIVIDUAL.        
HE'S A GREAT INDIVIDUAL.        
WHEN I GOT SWORN IN, IN DECEMBER
WHEN I GOT SWORN IN, IN DECEMBER
OF 2016, I CHOSE JUDGE HOLDER TO
OF 2016, I CHOSE JUDGE HOLDER TO
SWEAR ME IN BECAUSE I THINK HE'S
SWEAR ME IN BECAUSE I THINK HE'S
A GOOD PERSON.                  
A GOOD PERSON.                  
SO I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THAT 
SO I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THAT 
COMMENDATION AT A TIME TO KNOW  
COMMENDATION AT A TIME TO KNOW  
DETERMINED DETERMINED TO THIS   
DETERMINED DETERMINED TO THIS   
FINE GENTLEMAN.                 
FINE GENTLEMAN.                 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  WE HAVE A  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  WE HAVE A  
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER      
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER      
CITRO.                          
CITRO.                          
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS? 
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS? 
I HEAR NONE.                    
I HEAR NONE.                    
BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, YOU GOT   
BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, YOU GOT   
IT, SIR.                        
IT, SIR.                        
APPROVED.                       
APPROVED.                       
ANYTHING ELSE?                  
ANYTHING ELSE?                  
>>LUIS VIERA:  NO.              
>>LUIS VIERA:  NO.              
NOTHING ELSE, MR. CHAIR.        
NOTHING ELSE, MR. CHAIR.        
THANK YOU, SIR.                 
THANK YOU, SIR.                 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.           
COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.           
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  YES, THANK    
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  YES, THANK    
YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.              
YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.              
JUST A COUPLE.                  
JUST A COUPLE.                  
CHAIR OF THE BUDGET ADVISORY    
CHAIR OF THE BUDGET ADVISORY    
COMMITTEE, REQUESTING HE COME   
COMMITTEE, REQUESTING HE COME   
BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL FOR  
BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL FOR  
QUESTIONS RAISED DURING THE     
QUESTIONS RAISED DURING THE     
BUDGET LAST WEEK.               
BUDGET LAST WEEK.               
I MOVE BE ADDED TO THE CITY     
I MOVE BE ADDED TO THE CITY     
AGENDA NEXT THURSDAY MORNING    
AGENDA NEXT THURSDAY MORNING    
SEPTEMBER 3rd FOR PUBLIC        
SEPTEMBER 3rd FOR PUBLIC        
COMMENT.                        
COMMENT.                        
SHOULD TAKE NO MORE THAN 15     
SHOULD TAKE NO MORE THAN 15     
MINUTES.                        
MINUTES.                        
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  SECOND.    
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  SECOND.    
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  WE HAVE A  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  WE HAVE A  
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER      
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER      
MIRANDA.                        
MIRANDA.                        
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS? 
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS? 
BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WE        
BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WE        
APPROVED THAT.                  
APPROVED THAT.                  
WHAT ELSE, SIR?                 
WHAT ELSE, SIR?                 
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  I WOULD LIKE  
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  I WOULD LIKE  
TO BRING UP FOR DISCUSSION THE  
TO BRING UP FOR DISCUSSION THE  
DIVERSITY POSITION FOR THE      
DIVERSITY POSITION FOR THE      
9-2020, SIR.                    
9-2020, SIR.                    
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  SAY THAT   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  SAY THAT   
DATE AGAIN?                     
DATE AGAIN?                     
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  SEPTEMBER     
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  SEPTEMBER     
3rd, SIR.                       
3rd, SIR.                       
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  SEPTEMBER  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  SEPTEMBER  
3rd.                            
3rd.                            
ALL RIGHT.                      
ALL RIGHT.                      
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?            
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?            
I HEARD CITRO?                  
I HEARD CITRO?                  
ACTUALLY, COULD WE MOVE IT A    
ACTUALLY, COULD WE MOVE IT A    
LITTLE BUTT LATER?              
LITTLE BUTT LATER?              
THAT'S A VERY BUSY MEETING DAY. 
THAT'S A VERY BUSY MEETING DAY. 
THEN WE HAVE THE BUDGET PUBLIC  
THEN WE HAVE THE BUDGET PUBLIC  
HEARING THAT NIGHT.             
HEARING THAT NIGHT.             
COULD WE PUSH IT BACK TO PERHAPS
COULD WE PUSH IT BACK TO PERHAPS
THE 17th OF SEPTEMBER?          
THE 17th OF SEPTEMBER?          
THAT'S ANOTHER REGULAR COUNCIL  
THAT'S ANOTHER REGULAR COUNCIL  
MEETING.                        
MEETING.                        
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  I WAS TRYING  
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  I WAS TRYING  
TO PUSH IT SO IT WOULDN'T BE A  
TO PUSH IT SO IT WOULDN'T BE A  
BUDGET ISSUE.                   
BUDGET ISSUE.                   
I HAD CONVERSATION.             
I HAD CONVERSATION.             
SO IT WOULDN'T BE A BUDGET      
SO IT WOULDN'T BE A BUDGET      
CONCERN COMING UP.              
CONCERN COMING UP.              
THAT'S WHY I PUT IT ON SEPTEMBER
THAT'S WHY I PUT IT ON SEPTEMBER
3rd.                            
3rd.                            
BUT I THINK THE SECOND HEARING  
BUT I THINK THE SECOND HEARING  
FOR THE BUDGET ON THE 17th,     
FOR THE BUDGET ON THE 17th,     
THE EVENING?                    
THE EVENING?                    
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THE SECOND 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THE SECOND 
HEARING IS THE 16th.            
HEARING IS THE 16th.            
SO IT WOULD BE -- ALL RIGHT.    
SO IT WOULD BE -- ALL RIGHT.    
IF YOU WANT TO DO SEPTEMBER     
IF YOU WANT TO DO SEPTEMBER     
3rd, CONSIDERING THE BUDGET.    
3rd, CONSIDERING THE BUDGET.    
I HEARD A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
I HEARD A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA, I BELIEVE.             
MIRANDA, I BELIEVE.             
>>JOSEPH CITRO:  CITRO.         
>>JOSEPH CITRO:  CITRO.         
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  OH, CITRO. 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  OH, CITRO. 
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER    
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER    
CITRO.  IS THERE ANY OBJECTION  
CITRO.  IS THERE ANY OBJECTION  
OR OPPOSITION TO THIS?          
OR OPPOSITION TO THIS?          
HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS      
HEARING NONE, BY UNANIMOUS      
CONSENT WE APPROVE THAT.        
CONSENT WE APPROVE THAT.        
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?             
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?             
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  I HAVE ONE    
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  I HAVE ONE    
LAST ONE THAT'S VERY DEAR TO ME.
LAST ONE THAT'S VERY DEAR TO ME.
THIS LAST WEEK, SOME INFORMATION
THIS LAST WEEK, SOME INFORMATION
TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO STAFF 
TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO STAFF 
AND TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.      
AND TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.      
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
ADD THE RACIAL RESOLUTION TO THE
ADD THE RACIAL RESOLUTION TO THE
SEPTEMBER 3rd REGULAR           
SEPTEMBER 3rd REGULAR           
MEETING AGENDA FOR CITY COUNCIL 
MEETING AGENDA FOR CITY COUNCIL 
CONSIDERATION AND VOTE.         
CONSIDERATION AND VOTE.         
IF THAT DATE IS AN ISSUE WE CAN 
IF THAT DATE IS AN ISSUE WE CAN 
MOVE IT, SIR.                   
MOVE IT, SIR.                   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  SEPTEMBER  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  SEPTEMBER  
3rd, YOU SAID, SIR?             
3rd, YOU SAID, SIR?             
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  CORRECT.      
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  CORRECT.      
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  ALL RIGHT. 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  ALL RIGHT. 
IT'S A VERY BUSY DAY.           
IT'S A VERY BUSY DAY.           
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT OR ANY
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT OR ANY
DISCUSSION?                     
DISCUSSION?                     
>>JOHN DINGFELDER:  COULD YOU   
>>JOHN DINGFELDER:  COULD YOU   
REPEAT THE MOTION?              
REPEAT THE MOTION?              
I MISSED IT.                    
I MISSED IT.                    
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  COUNCILMAN 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  COUNCILMAN 
GUDES, IF YOU COULD REPEAT THE  
GUDES, IF YOU COULD REPEAT THE  
MOTION.                         
MOTION.                         
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  I WOULD LIKE  
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  I WOULD LIKE  
TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THE     
TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THE     
RACIAL CONCILIATION RESOLUTION  
RACIAL CONCILIATION RESOLUTION  
TO THE SEPTEMBER 3rd REGULAR    
TO THE SEPTEMBER 3rd REGULAR    
SCHEDULED AGENDA FOR CITY       
SCHEDULED AGENDA FOR CITY       
COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AND VOTE. 
COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AND VOTE. 
>> SECOND.                      
>> SECOND.                      
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  COUNCILMAN 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  COUNCILMAN 
DINGFELDER.                     
DINGFELDER.                     
>>LUIS VIERA:  THAT WAS VIERA   
>>LUIS VIERA:  THAT WAS VIERA   
THAT WAS READY TO SECOND IT AND 
THAT WAS READY TO SECOND IT AND 
I THINK COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.     
I THINK COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.     
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  SECOND FROM
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  SECOND FROM
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.             
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.             
ANY OBJECTION TO THIS MOTION?   
ANY OBJECTION TO THIS MOTION?   
ANY DISCUSSION?                 
ANY DISCUSSION?                 
BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT THIS IS    
BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT THIS IS    
WHAT PROVED.                    
WHAT PROVED.                    
ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN GUDES?
ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN GUDES?
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  THANK YOU.    
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  THANK YOU.    
I DEFINITELY PLEASURE THE LAST  
I DEFINITELY PLEASURE THE LAST  
VOTE AND THE LAST MOTION THAT   
VOTE AND THE LAST MOTION THAT   
WAS MADE.                       
WAS MADE.                       
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER.      
COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER.      
>>JOHN DINGFELDER:  I'M GOOD    
>>JOHN DINGFELDER:  I'M GOOD    
TODAY.                          
TODAY.                          
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
MEMBER CARLSON.                 
MEMBER CARLSON.                 
>>BILL CARLSON:  YES, MR. CHAIR.
>>BILL CARLSON:  YES, MR. CHAIR.
I HAVE A FEW CONFLICT FORMS THAT
I HAVE A FEW CONFLICT FORMS THAT
I HAVE FILED WITH THE CLERK'S   
I HAVE FILED WITH THE CLERK'S   
OFFICE.                         
OFFICE.                         
AND SO I NEED APPROVAL OF THAT, 
AND SO I NEED APPROVAL OF THAT, 
I THINK BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.   
I THINK BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  DO WE HAVE 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  DO WE HAVE 
ANY OBJECTION TO THAT?          
ANY OBJECTION TO THAT?          
>>BILL CARLSON:  TO RECEIVE AND 
>>BILL CARLSON:  TO RECEIVE AND 
FILE.                           
FILE.                           
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  COULD WE   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  COULD WE   
GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE
GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE
THOSE DOCUMENTS?                
THOSE DOCUMENTS?                
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.   
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.   
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.  ANY
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.  ANY
OBJECTION?                      
OBJECTION?                      
ALL RIGHT.                      
ALL RIGHT.                      
BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT WE ARE     
BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT WE ARE     
GOOD.                           
GOOD.                           
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ANYTHING    
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ANYTHING    
ELSE?                           
ELSE?                           
>>BILL CARLSON:  JUST ONE MORE  
>>BILL CARLSON:  JUST ONE MORE  
COMMENT ON THE VIRTUAL          
COMMENT ON THE VIRTUAL          
CONVERSATION A FEW MINUTES AGO. 
CONVERSATION A FEW MINUTES AGO. 
I PREFER ELECTRONIC             
I PREFER ELECTRONIC             
COMMUNICATION AND PARTICIPATION 
COMMUNICATION AND PARTICIPATION 
AS WELL.                        
AS WELL.                        
SO I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT 
SO I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT 
TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT IS DOING  
TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT IS DOING  
TO GO THAT WAY.                 
TO GO THAT WAY.                 
IT'S BEEN GREAT NOT HAVING TO   
IT'S BEEN GREAT NOT HAVING TO   
PRINT PAPER.                    
PRINT PAPER.                    
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
COUNCILMAN CITRO.               
COUNCILMAN CITRO.               
>>JOSEPH CITRO:  THANK YOU, MR. 
>>JOSEPH CITRO:  THANK YOU, MR. 
CHAIR.                          
CHAIR.                          
I HAVE JUST ONE ITEM, PER THE   
I HAVE JUST ONE ITEM, PER THE   
REQUEST OF THE PLANNING         
REQUEST OF THE PLANNING         
COMMISSION.                     
COMMISSION.                     
I MOVE TO RESCHEDULE A PLAN     
I MOVE TO RESCHEDULE A PLAN     
AMENDING ADOPTION HEARING FOR   
AMENDING ADOPTION HEARING FOR   
TACP 19-18 AG, AND TACPA 19-21. 
TACP 19-18 AG, AND TACPA 19-21. 
FROM SEPTEMBER 24th, 2020,      
FROM SEPTEMBER 24th, 2020,      
TO OCTOBER 22ND, 2020, AND      
TO OCTOBER 22ND, 2020, AND      
DIRECT LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO      
DIRECT LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO      
PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH THE 
PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH THE 
FORM OF NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING  
FORM OF NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING  
THE PUBLIC HEARING.             
THE PUBLIC HEARING.             
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  DO WE HAVE 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  DO WE HAVE 
A SECOND TO THIS MOTION?        
A SECOND TO THIS MOTION?        
>> SECOND.                      
>> SECOND.                      
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  SECOND FROM
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  SECOND FROM
COUNCILMAN GUDES.               
COUNCILMAN GUDES.               
ANY OBJECTION?                  
ANY OBJECTION?                  
ANY DISCUSSION?                 
ANY DISCUSSION?                 
BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THAT IS   
BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THAT IS   
APPROVED.                       
APPROVED.                       
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?             
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?             
>>JOSEPH CITRO:  NOTHING MORE,  
>>JOSEPH CITRO:  NOTHING MORE,  
MR. CHAIR.                      
MR. CHAIR.                      
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.             
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.             
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  PERMISSION  
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  PERMISSION  
TO MAKE COMMENDATION FOR        
TO MAKE COMMENDATION FOR        
RETIREMENT WHO IS LEAVING THE   
RETIREMENT WHO IS LEAVING THE   
GREAT CITY OF TAMPA ON OCTOBER  
GREAT CITY OF TAMPA ON OCTOBER  
2nd FOR DEBBY ROTOLLO WHO       
2nd FOR DEBBY ROTOLLO WHO       
HAS BEEN HERE FOR SOME PERIOD OF
HAS BEEN HERE FOR SOME PERIOD OF
TIME HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB. 
TIME HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB. 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  SECOND FROM
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  SECOND FROM
COUNCILMAN CITRO.               
COUNCILMAN CITRO.               
ANY OBJECTION?                  
ANY OBJECTION?                  
>>JOHN DINGFELDER:  NO OBJECTION
>>JOHN DINGFELDER:  NO OBJECTION
BUT YOU JUST WANT TO CHIME IN,  
BUT YOU JUST WANT TO CHIME IN,  
IN CASE DEBBY OR JOHN BENNETT IS
IN CASE DEBBY OR JOHN BENNETT IS
LISTENING.                      
LISTENING.                      
UNFORTUNATELY WITH COVID, WE    
UNFORTUNATELY WITH COVID, WE    
WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE DEBBY AND  
WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE DEBBY AND  
GIVE HER THE COMMENDATION       
GIVE HER THE COMMENDATION       
PERSONALLY.                     
PERSONALLY.                     
BUT I KNOW WE ALL WANT TO WISH  
BUT I KNOW WE ALL WANT TO WISH  
HER WELL.                       
HER WELL.                       
SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER, I THINK SHE 
SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER, I THINK SHE 
WROTE ME THE OTHER DAY THAT     
WROTE ME THE OTHER DAY THAT     
SHE'S BEEN AT THIS FOR 42 YEARS,
SHE'S BEEN AT THIS FOR 42 YEARS,
WHICH MEANS SHE MUST HAVE       
WHICH MEANS SHE MUST HAVE       
STARTED WHEN SHE WAS TEN.       
STARTED WHEN SHE WAS TEN.       
BUT ANYWAY, SHE'S AN AMAZING    
BUT ANYWAY, SHE'S AN AMAZING    
PERSON.                         
PERSON.                         
SHE'S BEEN AN AMAZING ASSET TO  
SHE'S BEEN AN AMAZING ASSET TO  
OUR CITY.                       
OUR CITY.                       
AND SHE'S A WONDERFUL HUMAN     
AND SHE'S A WONDERFUL HUMAN     
BEING.                          
BEING.                          
WE ARE GOING TO MISS HER BADLY. 
WE ARE GOING TO MISS HER BADLY. 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
VERY MUCH.                      
VERY MUCH.                      
AND I BELIEVE TAMPA CATHOLIC    
AND I BELIEVE TAMPA CATHOLIC    
CRUSADER AS AM I AND A BELOVED  
CRUSADER AS AM I AND A BELOVED  
MEMBER OF THE CITY OF TAMPA     
MEMBER OF THE CITY OF TAMPA     
FAMILY FOR MANY YEARS.          
FAMILY FOR MANY YEARS.          
I HESITATE TO SAY YES TO THIS   
I HESITATE TO SAY YES TO THIS   
MOTION BECAUSE WE NEVER WANT TO 
MOTION BECAUSE WE NEVER WANT TO 
SEE ANYONE LIKE HER GO, BUT, YOU
SEE ANYONE LIKE HER GO, BUT, YOU
KNOW, THIS IS WHY WE APPRECIATE 
KNOW, THIS IS WHY WE APPRECIATE 
HER SERVICE TO THIS CITY FOR    
HER SERVICE TO THIS CITY FOR    
MANY, MANY YEARS.               
MANY, MANY YEARS.               
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE   
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE   
MOTION?                         
MOTION?                         
ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE, BY     
ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE, BY     
UNANIMOUS CONSENT, MOTION IS    
UNANIMOUS CONSENT, MOTION IS    
PASSED.                         
PASSED.                         
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE?         
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE?         
>>MARTIN SHELBY:  MR. CHAIRMAN, 
>>MARTIN SHELBY:  MR. CHAIRMAN, 
MARTIN SHELBY, QUICKLY.         
MARTIN SHELBY, QUICKLY.         
JUST TO FOLLOW UP.              
JUST TO FOLLOW UP.              
OR WE CAN WAIT TILL NEXT WEEK   
OR WE CAN WAIT TILL NEXT WEEK   
WHEN MR. JOHNSON COMES IN FROM  
WHEN MR. JOHNSON COMES IN FROM  
THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE,  
THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE,  
BUT COUNCILMAN GUDES ASKED THE  
BUT COUNCILMAN GUDES ASKED THE  
QUESTION ABOUT HAVING QUARTERLY 
QUESTION ABOUT HAVING QUARTERLY 
MEETINGS, AND I RESEARCHED      
MEETINGS, AND I RESEARCHED      
THROUGH THAT RESOLUTION         
THROUGH THAT RESOLUTION         
REGARDING THE BUDGET ADVISORY   
REGARDING THE BUDGET ADVISORY   
COMMITTEE AND THERE'S NOTHING   
COMMITTEE AND THERE'S NOTHING   
THAT PREVENTS THAT, AND WORKING 
THAT PREVENTS THAT, AND WORKING 
WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO SET  
WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO SET  
UP A SCHEDULE.                  
UP A SCHEDULE.                  
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT NEXT    
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT NEXT    
WEEK, OR TAKE IT FROM THERE.    
WEEK, OR TAKE IT FROM THERE.    
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU  
VERY MUCH, SIR.                 
VERY MUCH, SIR.                 
I HAVE NOTHING.                 
I HAVE NOTHING.                 
WE WILL MEET THIS EVENING       
WE WILL MEET THIS EVENING       
VIRTUALLY AT 5:01 P.M.          
VIRTUALLY AT 5:01 P.M.          
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  I HAVE      
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  I HAVE      
ANOTHER, MR. CHAIRMAN.          
ANOTHER, MR. CHAIRMAN.          
I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.         
I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.         
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  GO AHEAD.  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  GO AHEAD.  
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  THANK YOU.  
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  THANK YOU.  
I NEVER HAD A P-CARD ISSUED TO  
I NEVER HAD A P-CARD ISSUED TO  
ME BECAUSE I NEVER WANTED ONE,  
ME BECAUSE I NEVER WANTED ONE,  
AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE ABOUT ALL 
AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE ABOUT ALL 
OF THIS, UNDERSTOOD MAYOR GRECO,
OF THIS, UNDERSTOOD MAYOR GRECO,
MAYOR IORIO, BUCKHORN AND NOW   
MAYOR IORIO, BUCKHORN AND NOW   
CASTOR, I DON'T THINK I EVER HAD
CASTOR, I DON'T THINK I EVER HAD
A P CARD.                       
A P CARD.                       
I CAN CHECK ON THAT TO SEE IF I 
I CAN CHECK ON THAT TO SEE IF I 
EVER SPENT ANY OF THAT MONEY.   
EVER SPENT ANY OF THAT MONEY.   
AND I AM CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO 
AND I AM CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO 
ASK FOR THAT MONEY NOW.         
ASK FOR THAT MONEY NOW.         
AND THE REASON I HAVEN'T ASKED  
AND THE REASON I HAVEN'T ASKED  
THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT OR I       
THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT OR I       
HAVEN'T ASKED THE ADMINISTRATION
HAVEN'T ASKED THE ADMINISTRATION
ABOUT THESE DISCUSSIONS, BECAUSE
ABOUT THESE DISCUSSIONS, BECAUSE
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.        
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.        
BUT I WANT TO KNOW IF IT'S      
BUT I WANT TO KNOW IF IT'S      
LEGAL, SINCE I DON'T HAVE A     
LEGAL, SINCE I DON'T HAVE A     
P-CARD, TO PUT MY SAME AMOUNT OF
P-CARD, TO PUT MY SAME AMOUNT OF
MONEY THAT EVERY OTHER MEMBER   
MONEY THAT EVERY OTHER MEMBER   
HAS, ABOUT $2900 A YEAR, FOR    
HAS, ABOUT $2900 A YEAR, FOR    
EXPENSES COMING OUT WHERE YOU   
EXPENSES COMING OUT WHERE YOU   
HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE AND SPEND  
HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE AND SPEND  
YOUR OWN MONEY.                 
YOUR OWN MONEY.                 
THAT IS YOU HAD TO GO BECAUSE   
THAT IS YOU HAD TO GO BECAUSE   
YOU ARE A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER,  
YOU ARE A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER,  
AND YOU SHOULD GO.              
AND YOU SHOULD GO.              
AND I WONDER IF I COULD ASK THE 
AND I WONDER IF I COULD ASK THE 
ADMINISTRATION THROUGH THE      
ADMINISTRATION THROUGH THE      
COUNCIL IF IT'S POSSIBLE,       
COUNCIL IF IT'S POSSIBLE,       
LEGALLY POSSIBLE, TO PUT THAT   
LEGALLY POSSIBLE, TO PUT THAT   
MONEY, AND WHAT I HEARD TODAY,  
MONEY, AND WHAT I HEARD TODAY,  
THEY HAD THE ONE TAMPA 501(C)3  
THEY HAD THE ONE TAMPA 501(C)3  
TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT     
TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT     
MONEY GOES SOMEWHERE AND I WOULD
MONEY GOES SOMEWHERE AND I WOULD
LIKE TO DIRECT IT TO AFFORDABLE 
LIKE TO DIRECT IT TO AFFORDABLE 
HOUSING, SO IF THIS COUNCIL     
HOUSING, SO IF THIS COUNCIL     
LET'S ME AND THE ADMINISTRATION 
LET'S ME AND THE ADMINISTRATION 
APPROVES, TO LET THAT MONEY THAT
APPROVES, TO LET THAT MONEY THAT
I SHOULD GET, ABOUT $2900 A     
I SHOULD GET, ABOUT $2900 A     
YEAR, 241 A MONTH WHATEVER IT   
YEAR, 241 A MONTH WHATEVER IT   
COMES TO, TO PUT THAT TO RING   
COMES TO, TO PUT THAT TO RING   
TIME THAT I HAVE ON THIS COUNCIL
TIME THAT I HAVE ON THIS COUNCIL
AND FROM THE TIME I GOT ELECTED 
AND FROM THE TIME I GOT ELECTED 
IN THIS ELECTION, TO BE GO BACK 
IN THIS ELECTION, TO BE GO BACK 
A YEAR AND A HALF, SO I COULD   
A YEAR AND A HALF, SO I COULD   
HAVE SOME MONEY GIVEN TO PEOPLE 
HAVE SOME MONEY GIVEN TO PEOPLE 
WHO NEED IT.                    
WHO NEED IT.                    
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  WE NEED AN 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  WE NEED AN 
OFFICIAL MOTION ON THAT OR IS   
OFFICIAL MOTION ON THAT OR IS   
THAT JUST A REQUEST OF THE      
THAT JUST A REQUEST OF THE      
ADMINISTRATION?                 
ADMINISTRATION?                 
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  I WOULD LIKE
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  I WOULD LIKE
TO REQUEST ADMINISTRATION.      
TO REQUEST ADMINISTRATION.      
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LEGALLY    
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LEGALLY    
POSSIBLE.                       
POSSIBLE.                       
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  MR. SHELBY,
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  MR. SHELBY,
YOUR THOUGHTS?                  
YOUR THOUGHTS?                  
>>MARTIN SHELBY:  MR. MIRANDA,  
>>MARTIN SHELBY:  MR. MIRANDA,  
WOULD YOU LIKE A REPORT IN      
WOULD YOU LIKE A REPORT IN      
WRITING TO YOU ABOUT THIS ISSUE?
WRITING TO YOU ABOUT THIS ISSUE?
>>CHALIE MIRANDA:  YEAH, I      
>>CHALIE MIRANDA:  YEAH, I      
WOULD LIKE THE CITY ATTORNEY TO 
WOULD LIKE THE CITY ATTORNEY TO 
WRITE ON IT.                    
WRITE ON IT.                    
I AM GOING TO GO THROUGH THE    
I AM GOING TO GO THROUGH THE    
ADMINISTRATION WITH IT.         
ADMINISTRATION WITH IT.         
NO REFLECTION ON YOU, MARTY.    
NO REFLECTION ON YOU, MARTY.    
BUT, IN FACT, I AM WILLING TO   
BUT, IN FACT, I AM WILLING TO   
EVEN PAY THE TAX ON THE MONEY   
EVEN PAY THE TAX ON THE MONEY   
THOUGH I AM NOT GOING TO GET IT.
THOUGH I AM NOT GOING TO GET IT.
IF THEY WOULD PUT IN THE THAT   
IF THEY WOULD PUT IN THE THAT   
ACCOUNT, I AM NOT TRYING TO     
ACCOUNT, I AM NOT TRYING TO     
BYPASS THE TAXING AREA.         
BYPASS THE TAXING AREA.         
BUT THAT MONEY I AM ENTITLED TO.
BUT THAT MONEY I AM ENTITLED TO.
I DON'T WANT IT.                
I DON'T WANT IT.                
I DON'T WANT TO -- AND I WANT TO
I DON'T WANT TO -- AND I WANT TO
GIVE IT AWAY TO AFFORDABLE      
GIVE IT AWAY TO AFFORDABLE      
HOUSING IF I CAN DO THAT AND    
HOUSING IF I CAN DO THAT AND    
MAYBE SOME OTHER MEMBERS OF     
MAYBE SOME OTHER MEMBERS OF     
COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO JOIN ME IN
COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO JOIN ME IN
SOME ASPECTS TO ANY AMOUNT.     
SOME ASPECTS TO ANY AMOUNT.     
OR MAYBE SOME CITY EMPLOYEES OR 
OR MAYBE SOME CITY EMPLOYEES OR 
SOME CITY UNIONS WOULD LIKE TO  
SOME CITY UNIONS WOULD LIKE TO  
GET INVOLVED AND PUT A POT OF   
GET INVOLVED AND PUT A POT OF   
MONEY TO BUILD ONE HOUSE.       
MONEY TO BUILD ONE HOUSE.       
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  HOLD ON.   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  HOLD ON.   
>>MORRIS MASSEY:  CITY          
>>MORRIS MASSEY:  CITY          
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.              
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.              
I LISTENED TO THAT, MR. MIRANDA,
I LISTENED TO THAT, MR. MIRANDA,
AND SEE IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE OR
AND SEE IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE OR
HOW WE CAN DO THAT IN A WAY THAT
HOW WE CAN DO THAT IN A WAY THAT
WORKS.                          
WORKS.                          
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  THAT'S WHAT 
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  THAT'S WHAT 
I WAS LOOKING FOR.              
I WAS LOOKING FOR.              
>>MORRIS MASSEY:  LET ME GO BACK
>>MORRIS MASSEY:  LET ME GO BACK
AND CHECK WITH FOLKS HERE AND   
AND CHECK WITH FOLKS HERE AND   
ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE SURE THAT
ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE SURE THAT
CAN BE DONE IN THE MANNER YOU   
CAN BE DONE IN THE MANNER YOU   
ARE TALKING ABOUT AND IF WE     
ARE TALKING ABOUT AND IF WE     
CAN'T, ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE THAT 
CAN'T, ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE THAT 
HAPPEN.                         
HAPPEN.                         
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  HOW MUCH   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  HOW MUCH   
TIME DO YOU NEED ON THAT, IF YOU
TIME DO YOU NEED ON THAT, IF YOU
WANT TO DO A WRITTEN REPORT, MR.
WANT TO DO A WRITTEN REPORT, MR.
MASSEY?                         
MASSEY?                         
>>MORRIS MASSEY:  IF I COULD    
>>MORRIS MASSEY:  IF I COULD    
COME BACK IN 30 DAYS.           
COME BACK IN 30 DAYS.           
IT MAY TAKE LESS THAN THAT BUT I
IT MAY TAKE LESS THAN THAT BUT I
NEED TO MAKE INQUIRIES.         
NEED TO MAKE INQUIRIES.         
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  THAT'S FINE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  THAT'S FINE.
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  LET'S SAY  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  LET'S SAY  
OCTOBER 1st.                    
OCTOBER 1st.                    
THAT'S A REGULAR COUNCIL        
THAT'S A REGULAR COUNCIL        
MEETING, OVER 30 DAYS.          
MEETING, OVER 30 DAYS.          
HOW ABOUT THAT?                 
HOW ABOUT THAT?                 
>>MORRIS MASSEY:  PERFECT.      
>>MORRIS MASSEY:  PERFECT.      
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  COUNCILMAN 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  COUNCILMAN 
CARLSON?                        
CARLSON?                        
>>BILL CARLSON:  YES.           
>>BILL CARLSON:  YES.           
MR. MIRANDA -- I BOUGHT ALL MY  
MR. MIRANDA -- I BOUGHT ALL MY  
OWN FURNITURE AND MY SUPPLIES.  
OWN FURNITURE AND MY SUPPLIES.  
I HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR SEVERAL  
I HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR SEVERAL  
MONTHS TO GIVE TO THE PUBLIC ART
MONTHS TO GIVE TO THE PUBLIC ART
DEPARTMENT BECAUSE I ALSO THINK 
DEPARTMENT BECAUSE I ALSO THINK 
THAT ART AND PUBLIC ART DRIVES  
THAT ART AND PUBLIC ART DRIVES  
JOBS, AND THEY NEED MORE FUNDING
JOBS, AND THEY NEED MORE FUNDING
IN THAT AREA.                   
IN THAT AREA.                   
BUT MORRIS, I HAD EXTENSIVE     
BUT MORRIS, I HAD EXTENSIVE     
CONVERSATION WITH THE CFO AND   
CONVERSATION WITH THE CFO AND   
WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF WHO HAS 
WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF WHO HAS 
ALSO SPOKEN TO THE CFO.         
ALSO SPOKEN TO THE CFO.         
YOU MAY GET SOME INFORMATION    
YOU MAY GET SOME INFORMATION    
FROM THERE.                     
FROM THERE.                     
BUT I THINK IF YOU ARE GOING TO 
BUT I THINK IF YOU ARE GOING TO 
GIVE CLARIFICATION, I THINK     
GIVE CLARIFICATION, I THINK     
GIVING IT TO A NONPROFIT, MINE  
GIVING IT TO A NONPROFIT, MINE  
GOES TO A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT  
GOES TO A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT  
OF THE CITY.                    
OF THE CITY.                    
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  ONE AT A   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  ONE AT A   
TIME, PLEASE.                   
TIME, PLEASE.                   
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  I'M SORRY.  
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  I'M SORRY.  
GO ON.                          
GO ON.                          
>>MORRIS MASSEY:  THERE MAY BE  
>>MORRIS MASSEY:  THERE MAY BE  
ISSUES WITH HOW THAT'S ALLOCATED
ISSUES WITH HOW THAT'S ALLOCATED
AND DONE AND THAT'S ONE OF THE  
AND DONE AND THAT'S ONE OF THE  
REASONS I NEED TO TALK TO THE   
REASONS I NEED TO TALK TO THE   
CFO AND CHIEF OF STAFF TO MAKE  
CFO AND CHIEF OF STAFF TO MAKE  
SURE WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY.     
SURE WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY.     
I CAN THINK OF A COUPLE OF      
I CAN THINK OF A COUPLE OF      
ISSUES POTENTIALLY BUT CERTAINLY
ISSUES POTENTIALLY BUT CERTAINLY
THESE ARE THINGS YOU ALL WANT TO
THESE ARE THINGS YOU ALL WANT TO
DO, AND I WILL RESEARCH IT AND  
DO, AND I WILL RESEARCH IT AND  
GET BACK IN TOUCH ITH YOU AND   
GET BACK IN TOUCH ITH YOU AND   
WE'LL HAVE A WRITTEN REPORT.    
WE'LL HAVE A WRITTEN REPORT.    
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  ALL RIGHT. 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  ALL RIGHT. 
OCTOBER 1st.                    
OCTOBER 1st.                    
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA.                        
MIRANDA.                        
WHO WAS THE SECOND, CITRO?      
WHO WAS THE SECOND, CITRO?      
WHO WAS THE SECOND?             
WHO WAS THE SECOND?             
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  I'LL SECOND,  
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  I'LL SECOND,  
MR. CHAIRMAN.                   
MR. CHAIRMAN.                   
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  ANY        
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  ANY        
OBJECTION TO THIS MOTION?       
OBJECTION TO THIS MOTION?       
HEARING NONE, ALL RIGHT.        
HEARING NONE, ALL RIGHT.        
PASSES BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.    
PASSES BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.    
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?             
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?             
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  THAT'S IT,  
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  THAT'S IT,  
SIR.                            
SIR.                            
THANK YOU.                      
THANK YOU.                      
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU. 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  THANK YOU. 
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING?     
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING?     
5:01 THIS EVENING.              
5:01 THIS EVENING.              
CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE   
CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE   
AND FILE?                       
AND FILE?                       
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  MOVE TO     
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA:  MOVE TO     
RECEIVE AND FILE, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
RECEIVE AND FILE, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  MOTION BY  
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  MOTION BY  
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO RECEIVE   
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO RECEIVE   
AND FILE.                       
AND FILE.                       
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?            
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?            
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  SECOND.       
>>ORLANDO GUDES:  SECOND.       
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  SECOND FROM
>>GUIDO MANISCALCO:  SECOND FROM
COUNCILMAN GUDES.               
COUNCILMAN GUDES.               
ANY OBJECTION?                  
ANY OBJECTION?                  
HEARING NONE, PASSED BY         
HEARING NONE, PASSED BY         
UNANIMOUS CONSENT.              
UNANIMOUS CONSENT.              
WE ARE ADJOURNED.               
WE ARE ADJOURNED.               
THANK YOU.                      
