STUART: PRESIDENT TRUMP'S GOING
TO SIGN AN EXECUTIVE ORDER
TODAY.
IT WILL THROTTLE GOVERNMENT
FUNDING AND GRANTS TO COLLEGES
THAT DON'T PROMOTE FREE SPEECH
ON CAMPUS.
COME IN, BOARD MEMBER OF THE
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN LAWYERS
FOUNDATION.
WELCOME BACK TO THE PROGRAM.
CAN YOU TELL ME HOW THIS IS
GOING TO WORK?
IS IT JUST A DENIAL OF MONEY IF
YOU DON'T HAVE REAL FREE SPEECH
ON CAMPUS, JUST AS SIMPLE AS
THAT?
>> I THINK THERE'S SOME DETAILS
THAT WE DON'T KNOW YET AND THEY
WILL BE UNVEILED IN THE SIGNING
THIS AFTERNOON, BUT MY
UNDERSTANDING OVERALL IS THAT A
FEDERAL FUNDING OR GRANTS FOR
THESE UNIVERSITIES WILL BE TIED
TO THE EXTENT TO WHICH THEY DO
NOT PROMOTE BUT JUST PERMIT FREE
SPEECH ON THEIR CAMPUS.
WE HAVE HAD A REAL RASH OF
CENSORSHIP ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES
THAT HURTS ALL THE STUDENTS, SO
I THINK THIS IS REALLY AN
IMPORTANT STEP.
I BELIEVE THERE'S ANOTHER PART
OF THIS THAT ALSO TIES SOME
ASPECTS OF THE FUNDING AND LOANS
AVAILABLE TO STUDENTS TO HOW
SUCCESSFUL THEIR COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES ARE AT ACTUALLY
PLACING THEM IN JOBS WHERE THEY
CAN EARN MONEY TO PAY THEM BACK.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE
INTERESTING TO SEE AS WELL.
STUART: VERY HARD TO ENFORCE
THAT, I'D SAY.
>> I THINK WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT
THE DETAILS ARE, BUT WHAT YOUR
VIEWERS MAY NOT KNOW IS THE
DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION ACTUALLY
HAS A VAST BUREAUCRACY THAT
MEASURES THESE COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES ON A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENT CRITERIA SO THEY
ALREADY HAVE A WAY TO DO THAT.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF ADDING
THIS ADDITIONAL SCRUTINY.
STUART: I KNEW THEY HAVE GOT A
VAST BUREAUCRACY.
I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE INVOLVED
IN THAT.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE CENSORING
US.
>> NO, NO, NO.
FOR EXAMPLE, THEY WON'T GIVE A
COLLEGE FUNDING IF, YOU KNOW, IT
DOESN'T MEET CERTAIN
ACCREDITATION CRITERIA AND SO
FORTH.
THIS IS JUST ADDING SOME
ADDITIONAL CRITERIA.
STUART: FAIR ENOUGH.
OKAY.
SOCIAL MEDIA, JUST LISTEN TO
WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAD TO SAY
EARLIER THIS WEEK ABOUT THEIR
BIAS AGAINST CONSERVATIVE IDEAS.
ROLL TAPE, PLEASE.
>> THERE SEEMS TO BE THEY'RE
CONSERVATIVE IF THEY'RE
REPUBLICANS, IF THEY'RE IN A
CERTAIN GROUP, THERE'S
DISCRIMINATION, BIG
DISCRIMINATION.
SOMETHING'S HAPPENING WITH THOSE
GROUPS OF FOLKS THAT ARE RUNNING
FACEBOOK AND GOOGLE AND TWITTER,
AND I DO THINK WE HAVE TO GET TO
THE BOTTOM OF IT.
STUART: GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT,
BUT WHAT CAN THE PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES DO ABOUT THIS?
>> WELL, FOR ONE THING, THERE
ARE SOME REGULATIONS THAT
PROTECT THESE SOCIAL MEDIA
COMPANIES FROM LAWSUITS IN A WAY
THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, FOX NEWS AND
OTHER TELEVISION BROADCASTERS
DON'T HAVE PROTECTION.
SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE
ENGAGING IN PUBLICATION AND
CENSORSHIP AND WEIGHING
DIFFERENT OPINIONS, THEN THEY DO
NOT NEED PROTECTION FROM
LIABILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS WHEN
THEY DO THAT.
THAT'S ONE THING UNDER THE
COMMUNICATIONS DECENCY ACT.
THE OTHER IS THESE BIG TECH
COMPANIES MISREPRESENT WHAT
THEY'RE DOING WHICH IS A
CONSUMER ISSUE.
SO WE HAVE FEDERAL TRADE
COMMISSION AND OTHER FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THAT CAN
ACTUALLY TAKE ACTION BASED ON
EXISTING LAWS AND I HOPE THAT
THEY DO THAT.
STUART: CAN YOU SEE THE POINT
COMING WHERE REGULATION IS
IMPOSED ON THE FACEBOOKS AND
GOOGLES OF THIS WORLD WHICH
CHANGES THEIR BUSINESS MODEL?
>> YES.
I THINK THAT IT'S COMING AND I
THINK YOU WILL SEE THAT FROM THE
BEHAVIOR OF THESE TECH COMPANIES
THAT THEY ARE EXPECTING IT TO
COME.
YOU ARE SEEING A LOT OF THE
DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES ACTUALLY
START TALKING ABOUT THIS.
ELIZABETH WARREN TUCKL
ELIZABETH WARREN PACKL
ELIZABETH WARREN PARTL
ELIZABETH WARREN PARTICULARLY
HAS TALKED ABOUT HOW THESE BIG
COMPANIES HAVE TOO MUCH POWER
AND NEED TO BE LOOKED AT.
THE POWER ACTUALLY GOES ALONG
WITH THE POLITICAL VIEWPOINT
DISCRIMINATION AND HIDING WHAT
THEY'RE DOING.
STUART: I'M IN THAT CAMP, TOO.
I THINK THEY HAVE TOO MUCH
POWER.
I DON'T THINK -- THEY HAVE
KNOWLEDGE OF TWO BILLION PEOPLE
AND KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT TWO
BILLION PEOPLE.
AND IN THE WRONG HANDS, THAT'S A
COUPLE OF BILLIONAIRES HAVE GOT
THAT POWER.
I DON'T LIKE THAT.
THAT'S BIG BROTHER, ISN'T IT?
>> IT IS.
AND THESE SAME COMPANIES ARE
DOING BUSINESS WITH CHINA WHICH
IS ABSOLUTELY BIG BROTHER.
SO YOU WANT CHINA TO HAVE ALL
THE PERSONAL INFORMATION OF WHAT
YOU DO IN YOUR HOUSE?
I DON'T WANT THAT.
I THINK IT'S TIME FOR US TO KNOW
WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH OUR
DATA AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO
PROTECT OURSELVES.
STUART: I KNEW I LIKED YOU.
I KNEW WE SHOULD HAVE YOU ON
