I think it's cool that he says a form of
godliness because I think that implies
that people were trying but it just
wasn't cutting the mustard at the time.
You sound like a dad. "Ah, you're just not cutting the mustard with your report card, son."
all right so today
we're super excited, we get to talk about
chapter 2 of the Saints books that the
church is releasing. If you don't know
we're talking about, there's a link in
our bio that you can check out the book
and anyway, we're on chapter 2 now, it's
called 'Hear Him.' I just want to say you
guys, I love this chapter. Like I have
read the first vision countless times
but I really like how the book is
written like a narrative so we really
can truly understand more like, I
don't know, and visualize more what it
was like. So my favorite part of the
chapter was right after Heavenly Father
and Jesus Christ just left and so Joseph
Smith is there like in the Sacred Grove
like, oh my gosh, what just happened? And I
just want to read a quote from it and it
says, "The pillar of light had departed
and his guilt and confusion were gone.
Feelings of divine love filled his heart
and I just really liked that because I'm
sure Joseph Smith could have been very
overwhelmed with everything that just
happened. I mean literally Heavenly
Father and Jesus Christ just appeared to
him and I could see it being super
stressed with like okay, the true church
isn't on the earth, we're going to help
you restore it, like it's up to you. I
don't know, I could just see how that
could be a really stressful moment but
it said that he had feelings of divine
love that filled his heart and Joseph
Smith, I mean, he had this huge task that
he had to do but because he was able to
feel the spirit, he just felt peace and I
really like how that's an opportunity
for each one of us on the earth that we
can experience that. Yeah. So I really
love that part. What did you guys like? So
this chapter is very significant and
amazing I think because it is one of
the most important events in the history
of the world, the First Vision, right? It
is something that my testimony was
built on, the restoration of the gospel.
It is so important, it's everything to me,
right? So what Jesus says is so
interesting, when Joseph
wants to know about which religion is true
and Jesus says, "they teach for doctrines
the commandments of men having a form of
godliness but they deny the power
thereof." This is what the Lord says about
the other denominations at the time and
honestly I always like to imagine if the
first mission happened today, would that
exact language be used, would it be a
little different? Because I like to think
like if you you're on the frontier in
1820, you know, the churches of
day, half of them are engaged in slavery,
they're just 200 years removed from
burning witches, you know, I think
the language is a little harsh but I
think maybe warranted. I mean like I probably would have
said like, "Yeah, those people are crazy,
you know? Of course not all Christians,
many Christians were wonderful but
I just think like thinking of that time
period, these are important questions to
ask if you're seeing a lot of immorality
and so much confusion with
doctrine you would want to know, wait,
wait, wait, wait, are any of these true? Are
any of these actual churches? And they
deny the power thereof, which is the
priesthood, which is the, you know, the
miracles of God. They were denying
it. I've always used this analogy,
forgive me for going into tangent here
but our church is built from heaven down.
The heavens open and directed prophets,
gave them priests authority by the
laying on of hands of angels to build
this church. Our church is not built
Bible up. A lot of people read the Bible,
they interpret it and go, "This means this,
this is this, I think this is right,
hopefully this is recognized as right by
heaven." So their church is built Bible up,
our church is built heaven down, which is
amazing to have that comfort. The
priesthood is what the Church of God
must have. We have that priesthood. And I
think that's interesting that you
mentioned, well, I think it's cool that he
says "a form of godliness" because I think
that implies that people were trying,
they were trying to find that heaven
directed religion and I think that
people that do read the Bible and try
and build a religion off of that,
they have, I'm sure 99% of the time,
really good intentions and
they're trying the best with what
they've got but it just wasn't cutting
the mustard at the time. I've never heard that before.
You've never heard cutting the mustard? You sound like a dad.
"Oh, you're not cutting the mustard on your report card, son."
He was complaining about earlier how he
feels so. We won't say your age.
Hello fellow children. That's Steve
Buscemi! Yes.
Anyways, my favorite part, I liked how in
this chapter they start to address tough
tough issues within Mormonism
which i think is probably the purpose,
one of the purposes of this whole book
is that they address that Joseph Smith
has several different retellings,
accounts of his experience with the
first vision and a lot of people have
problems with that because they line up
all four accounts and they say, "Well this
one is different from this one and
that means that he must have been lying
 in this time when he said it and, but
but that doesn't make any sense at all.
And I like how the story lays it out and
it says in these circumstances,
Joseph was talking to these people and
so he told his story, including these
details, that are relevant to this
audience. I even do that when I'm telling
a spiritual story. Yeah! Like a spiritual story of
my life. Whoever I'm talking to, I
cater it to that person. If everything,
if everything had to be
completely in line then even the
four Gospels would be discredited
because they also, like, of course they're
gonna be little different variations.
Also, okay, imagine you're fourteen and
Satan attacks you and then Jesus
cast Satan out and you see Him and God
who you thought were one person but you
see that they're two and they're going, "We're
gonna restore the church to you" and
there's like angels and stuff.
Do you really think, when
you write it down without a proper
education after that happens, something
as crazy and trippy as that, do you think
you're gonna get every detail right? No, you're gonna remember things. That's
how it even is as a person. When I
remember an event, I go and later on go, "oh,
that event also happened. Oh that also happened." 
Like that's how-- come on--
I don't remember from when I was 14 and I'm
only 20. I know, I only remember
accidentally walking to the girls
bathroom in school. You told me about that actually.
Once upon time, I saw on campus at school this kid
flying down the sidewalk with the little
Heely thing. I'm gonna cover up this brand
on my shoes so you don't know which brand it is. Oh, I wonder what it is. Oh, is it a Reebok?
He had these wheels strapped to his shoe and he was
flying. Later after that experience I
tried to describe that to my friends and
I probably described it in 15 different
ways because I had no words to describe
what I was seeing. The shoe wheelie
thingies, the Heely's but they
weren't Heely's because those come out
of the bottom of the shoe and these were
strapped inside. It makes sense that
Joseph Smith used different words in
different settings and it's just a
-- and emphasized different things-- right. Depending on who you're talking to.
Right. So I'm glad that this book brings it up and
presents it as basically a non-issue
because that's basically what it is.
Every preacher does that. I really like
how the church is coming out and saying
like this is what happened, go back and
read chapter 1 of you haven't read
chapter 2, it's short. It was like a 5-10 minute read. Yeah.
Chapter 1 is "Ask of God," chapter 2 is
"Hear Him" and then read chapter 3 when it
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