Ugh. For one of my classes, we had to read a piece about the rhetoric of meat consumption. The piece was great, the class discussion was not. A lot of blanket statements about how vegetarians are pushy and how someone's cousin's-boyfriend's-sister's-mom is vegan and needs to take supplements and jokes about how veal is so terrible but gosh, it tastes so darn good! So of course I opened my big mouth and said that I'm vegan and in pretty good health, because I was getting pretty frustrated not saying anything. And I feel like I shouldn't have, but if other people are giving personal anecdotes and vague, unsourced "facts" (athletes need meat!) then I figured it was fair game. But, blah. I need vegan-hugs.

Man, I'm sorry.

This kind of thing happens in the class I was most excited about this term all the time. From the teachers even. After watching something really moving about how our food system needs to change, the discussion devolves into how if they had to be vegan, what's the point in being alive. It's insane. The class is about how to grow vegetables within the city.

In your urban farming class? Really? That makes me sad. My university offers one as well, and I was thinking of taking it for fun next quarter since I only have like 11 credits planned right now. But now I'm thinking there is a good chance the same thing would happen. And then my fun class would turn into my, "If one more person says how much they'd hate to be vegan I am going to go insane," class, and that would be no fun. Boo, people are silly.

Oh, man. I totally get the peeve about sharing your limited supply of vegan stuff. A while ago, I got a stash of vegan gummy bears and Go Max Go bars (which are not generally available in Europe) and my boyfriend wanted to have a taste of each and every one. On the one hand, I'm happy he wants to try vegan stuff. On the other, he's got his supermarket gummy bears and Snickers and Mars bars all to himself, so when I only have one expensive Jokerz bar and one expensive Twilight bar that I would have to go out of my way to a special store to replace, I want to eat the whole things myself, dammit!

New pet peeve: a friend of mine is trying to eat less meat and incorporate more vegetarian meals into his routine, so he asked me for a cookbook recommendation. I suggested AFR, which he bought. Yesterday he dropped by the store where I work and told me he really liked AFR and had been using it a lot, but "I do sometimes add butter to the recipes". Why? I can't think of a single AFR recipe that I feel would be improved with the addition of even vegan butter, let alone dairy butter. what the fizzle?

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Yeah, my partner of 7 years is not allowed to eat stuff like precious cheeses (Cheezly, Dr. Cow, etc...) I bring home from travels and/or order, because he is vegetarian. I even get a little stabby about him eating a large portion of a shared vegan dish at a restaurant because I selfishly feel like I deserve to eat most of it, and since my appetite is half of his', I always just watch as he ticks into every little vegan morsel of deliciousness.

I don't want to have to share my special vegan treat with people who can just go to the store and get all the freaking snacks they want.!

a few years ago my kid and i went up to the US, she had talked for a YEAR about how she was going to buy the Peanut Butter Puffins cereal. We went to Trader Joe's (an hour away) and got them like the first day. We went to the library the next day, after she had had One Glorious Breakfast, and while we were gone my sister binged by eating the whole box. We came home, my kid saw the box in the trash and started to cry. Then my sister came downstairs and started the whole "they weren't really that good, health food store kind of crepe". This is why we don't visit more often- i believe she did the same thing with my blueberry-lemon petit fours (which were AMAZING), and, of all things, the Lovely Cupcakes from Rutherford whose store name I can't remember.

This might be a weird one, but when I am ordering my groceries online through IGA, and I put firm and extra-firm tofu on my list, don't send me 2 soft ones instead. Dude, what am I supposed to do with that now? (I had an organized meal plan and wanted those ones specifically) Or when I ask for 2 cans of black beans, dont sub for 1 can of mixed beans. Ugh! Now I have to go out in this cold to the grocery store and get more items. This sucks. It's freezing out there... the point of ordering is to avoid all this with a baby and preschooler in tow, ya know?

Or ohh, this is even better... It's like they don't even know what tofu is. When I click on Mori-Nu silken tofu, they sent me soft regular tofu instead thinking its the same thing, even after I explained on the phone. Grr!

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lepelaar wrote:

New pet peeve: a friend of mine is trying to eat less meat and incorporate more vegetarian meals into his routine, so he asked me for a cookbook recommendation. I suggested AFR, which he bought. Yesterday he dropped by the store where I work and told me he really liked AFR and had been using it a lot, but "I do sometimes add butter to the recipes". Why? I can't think of a single AFR recipe that I feel would be improved with the addition of even vegan butter, let alone dairy butter. what the fizzle?

what on earth is he adding butter too? i cant think of anything in there that needs butter either. what the fizzle? most of the stuff i make from that book would only be ruined by the addition of butter (curries, salads, etc).

My bff does a monthly order online and allows substitutions. Last week, she ordered Alpro Soya chocolate desserts (vegan pudding cups, essentially), and they delivered a Victoria sponge (Free From, but just vegetarian) in its place. Instead of just giving her a different flavour of dessert (they sell 4, including 2 different chocolates), they sent something that wasn't even remotely like what she ordered (apart from it being from the Free From range). She's not vegan so she ate it anyway, but it just made me wonder what goes through someone's head when they make those decisions. And it reinforced my decision to not allow substitutions when I order online.

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I don't want to have to share my special vegan treat with people who can just go to the store and get all the freaking snacks they want.!

a few years ago my kid and i went up to the US, she had talked for a YEAR about how she was going to buy the Peanut Butter Puffins cereal. We went to Trader Joe's (an hour away) and got them like the first day. We went to the library the next day, after she had had One Glorious Breakfast, and while we were gone my sister binged by eating the whole box. We came home, my kid saw the box in the trash and started to cry. Then my sister came downstairs and started the whole "they weren't really that good, health food store kind of crepe". This is why we don't visit more often- i believe she did the same thing with my blueberry-lemon petit fours (which were AMAZING), and, of all things, the Lovely Cupcakes from Rutherford whose store name I can't remember.

Sweet Avenue Cupcakes (the cupcake place in Rutherford, NJ) posted some photos of their Super Bowl cupcakes. Someone responded, "Are your cupcakes paleo?" Now, granted, I'm not an expert on paleo, but I'm pretty sure that all grains and sugars are forbidden.

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The idea of paleo cupcakes amuses me.

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New pet peeve: a friend of mine is trying to eat less meat and incorporate more vegetarian meals into his routine, so he asked me for a cookbook recommendation. I suggested AFR, which he bought. Yesterday he dropped by the store where I work and told me he really liked AFR and had been using it a lot, but "I do sometimes add butter to the recipes". Why? I can't think of a single AFR recipe that I feel would be improved with the addition of even vegan butter, let alone dairy butter. what the fizzle?

what on earth is he adding butter too? i cant think of anything in there that needs butter either. what the fizzle? most of the stuff i make from that book would only be ruined by the addition of butter (curries, salads, etc).

I add two tbsp of EB to the shepherd pie mashed potatoes somthey get creamier. Can't think of anything else.

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A bunch of the moms at our parenting group make coconut flour paleo muffins sweetened with fruit. They have eggs in them, though so I have't tasted them, but one of the moms is dairy and eggfree as well as paleo and she only bakes paleo and vegan so I'm psyched to try them.

I love Sweet Avenue. If anyone can do a yummy paleovegan cupcake its them

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torque wrote:

ijustdiedinside wrote:

I don't want to have to share my special vegan treat with people who can just go to the store and get all the freaking snacks they want.!

a few years ago my kid and i went up to the US, she had talked for a YEAR about how she was going to buy the Peanut Butter Puffins cereal. We went to Trader Joe's (an hour away) and got them like the first day. We went to the library the next day, after she had had One Glorious Breakfast, and while we were gone my sister binged by eating the whole box. We came home, my kid saw the box in the trash and started to cry. Then my sister came downstairs and started the whole "they weren't really that good, health food store kind of crepe". This is why we don't visit more often- i believe she did the same thing with my blueberry-lemon petit fours (which were AMAZING), and, of all things, the Lovely Cupcakes from Rutherford whose store name I can't remember.

this is terrible!!!!!!! poor kid :-(did she go get a new box and replace them?!?!?!

We got a new box, and a whole bunch of other treats, and kept it in my room. however, because of other antics from that trip, we ended up leaving the US early and going back home. I should mention, she has gotten better, and I am hopeful that someday I can have a relationship with her the way I have with my brother.