(02-02-2020, 11:40 PM) jeffm54321 Wrote: (02-02-2020, 11:27 PM) GroomingDept Wrote: For the people who are anti flipping, can you please find me one source of where this morality that you are trying to impose on people exists? I googled it I cant find anything, anywhere! Or is something that is OK to do in any any hobby, but somehow it's a bad thing, morally to do it in the wetshaving hobby circles. I'm sure some of you have bought houses, and hopefully sold for profit, and that's what you expect to happen. I'm sure some have sold heirloom on eBay, etc..



Flipping or reselling goods at higher prices, if demands exists, is a fundamental part of Capitalism. This is what our society's economics are built on.



I also believe Aldo is doing the right thing if he feels his brushes command that price. A consequence of his decision will limit the ability of some people to purchase his brushes. At the same time, these brushes are rare, and now they might become rarer. If there is demand on the second hand market, these brushes will continue to increase in price.



Can anybody please discuss without somehow resorting to insulting people.



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I think it has to do with the community aspect of the forums, reddit, facebook groups etc. Everyone becomes friendly within those communities. Would you walk into a store, buy something, use it once just to be able to talk about it, then flip it to a buddy for some number higher than retail? No, you probably wouldn't. Those that are pro flipper don't care about the community aspect, or growing the hobby, they just care about themselves, and making a buck. Those that are against it would love for as many people to try as many things as they can.



IME, IMO, YMMV.

We're going to disagree, and that's not bad at all. I like civil disagreementsUse of words like buddy and community make thing sound very different from what reality is, at least in some part of the hobby's enclaves. You and certain people are members of tight knit group. You care about each and you exchange goods at reasonable prices. I’ll give you an example. At one point I owned 2 Paradigm 17-4 razors. A friend knew this The razors were selling on the 2nd hand market for $400+. I sold it to him for what I got from Bullgoose. Had he not been a friend, I would have probably tried to make as much money I could on the 2nd hand market.The concept of community is nothing more than groups of people conversing, sharing and exchanging. I’m part of a cycling communities. I have made friends within those groups, we’ve sold parts to each other. A friend of mine bought very rare water bottles from me, I sold them to him at fair second hand market price. Few months later, he decided he didn’t want them anymore, he sold them for more than what he paid me. I was totally ok with that!There is no reason to assume that everyone is a friend of everyone in the wetshaving community. The community is a loosely defined concept. People come and go, people trade goods at prices they’re willing to sell, when buyer is found who’ll pay the price a transaction takes place.Back to the morality issue too, why is there an insistence on imposing an opinion on others? Imposition is very alienating concept in our society. The reason I’m saying imposition, because so many people have repeated the same thing over and over without backing it up by any logic. It all seems to me something emotional, that’s not founded in something concrete in our society.You said at the "YMMV" I really believe we should respect that term. If we respect then we would voice our opinions in civil ways, strongly sometimes. As a community at large we should figure out how to respect our differences.