and he yeah yes and and a lot of people that i knew had would go to school in some really you you know Rochester and some of these really nice these uh name schools and and of course they would get out but they got they ended up getting more or less the same job i did and then they but they're thirty thousand in debt from student loans
I know people who went to well-known schools and now have the same job as me, but are thirty-thousand dollars in debt.