As did Calvin, some say that God predetermined man’s fall before his creation and that he had predestinated the ‘ chosen ones ’ before that fall.
Mõned ütlevad sarnaselt Calviniga, et Jumal määras inimese pattulangemise juba enne tema loomist ning et enne seda pattulangemist määras ta ka ette ’ äravalitud ’ inimesed.