hikukomoru: It's fine if it only refers to men
spicy.lemonade: not just women
spicy.lemonade: in this context theyre refering to all people
darkstar0818: What if I am just as insulting to men?
hikukomoru: Don't call women bitches
spicy.lemonade: I dont need ozempic
spicy.lemonade: thats what im saying
fractalcomputer: Obviously, that is because he is a spokesperson.
hikukomoru: Why do you want ozempic then
drewsni: kevin weil i think is the new "boss" that does livestreams when sams not there  so thats a good sign still
spicy.lemonade: ong
futurist_wizard: Too many fat bitches around
hikukomoru: Lol
Was right to not get hyped
spicy.lemonade: quite fit actualy
spicy.lemonade: im not
hikukomoru: Didn't know you were fat
hey1_1hey:
hey1_1hey: Yanno that livestream? The twink wont be there <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
spicy.lemonade: there needs to be commercial ozempic
hikukomoru: See you get it
darkstar0818: if you are clever you can cut a steak in a bowl
darkstar0818: this is true
hikukomoru: Problem solved
hikukomoru: Okay, then just have a single bowl
And use it for everything
futurist_wizard: The dishwasher is for hide and seek
darkstar0818: hard to eat lucky charms on a plate.
hikukomoru: You could even just use the same plate for everything
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dishwasher-explosion-colinfurze-gif-27388584
darkstar0818: just have one set of dishware and rinse it after use... easy.
hikukomoru: If it can't do my dishes what's the point
ailoveyoom: Goatmini
futurist_wizard: How many gpt's does it take to screw in a lightbulb
zonchao: gemini is pretty good
ailoveyoom: Get better at vision first 😔
spicy.lemonade: AI is so bad at electrical engineering
spicy.lemonade: i need reasoning over image
hey1_1hey: I could tho
hey1_1hey: Not yet
zonchao: have you tried?
literallyvarane: Progress is progress, I’d just like to have beefier models in app. If it’s compelling enough I might still use api for it?


brain4brain: All the good agentic benchmark are ignored and not maintained and the AI community instead focus on knowledge benchmark for now, highly disappointing
spicy.lemonade: and also research bench for openAI
spicy.lemonade: where it has to play any game on steam
brain4brain: It will perfected soon, spatial reasoning will also be solve
spicy.lemonade: nah there will be a benchmark called steambench or something
brain4brain: It will be this year
professorheaven: Once those get saturated, we’re at the end game
professorheaven: HLE, FronterMath and Arc 2 are the last men standing
spicy.lemonade: and spatial reasoning
spicy.lemonade: until we perfect image understanding
spicy.lemonade: hle wont be saturated
brain4brain: I also think we would saturate everything this year, including HLE and FrontierMath
3ds0662: this is now the terrain of hedgefunds deepseek, and billion + companies
3ds0662: simply not enough compute
3ds0662: even academia cant keep up with ai or meaningfully contribute to it as they used to
3ds0662: you can point to them inventing internet etc… but they arent that darpa and this isnt the 1900s, 70s, 80s etc…
3ds0662: and everytime i hear about darpa attempting things with ai again its a nothing burger to me in a sense because the talent pushing this are all at companies not in a niche government branch
3ds0662: the funniest tweet being “we solved math” that was funny
3ds0662: to being more realistic these days
3ds0662: noam brown even corrected david shapiro about that he’s switched from being a hype tweeter
3ds0662: 3.7, o3 all these models as is right now are not agi
3ds0662: he has a lot of things to solve if he’s going to make that prediction true
3ds0662: a lot of people are dunking on dario for that statement given how early he’s been saying it for since like 2023
3ds0662: i still need to see it before i even agree
destrucules: Any model that is genius level is, during training, a country of geniuses in a datacenter
destrucules: There are many many instances of themselves doing different things in parallel. That's why it takes months, not millennia, to train them
destrucules: The "country of geniuses in a data center" thing is just a way of understanding the parallel nature of being an AI. All AIs are already like that during training
3ds0662: we have less than a year till 2026
destrucules: Strong disagree
3ds0662: a country of geniuses in a datacenter is yet to be seen though
destrucules: We might not saturate FrontierMath but I think we'll get very close
destrucules: We won't saturate HLE
destrucules: I believe I predicted we'd saturate everything this year. I still think that
3ds0662: it automating entire tasks is hard to see when you use operator and claude computer use
3ds0662: yay 😁
3ds0662: things are about to get crazy
3ds0662: can’t wait for 90% swe bench
spicy.lemonade: hes just weird when it comes to agi
spicy.lemonade: these are ege's predictions
destrucules: Google was the first to reach the 10xGPT-4 tier. Then xAI with Grok 3, except Google didn't have a reasoning mode for Gemini 2.0 Pro, and the reasoning mode for Gemini 2.0 Flash back then was 01-21, which was o1 level. xAI cleanly swept the entire market with Grok 3. But then Anthropic quickly responded with Claude 3.7 Sonnet and drowned out much of that initial hype, and GPT-4.5 also released shortly thereafter, and proved to be a smarter model than Grok 3 by a significant if subtle margin.


spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: no one was larping about llms replacing coders pre 2024
shirethedreamer: amy here thought gpt3 was the one to replace coders
spicy.lemonade: gpt 4 was 2024
spacetimetsunami: Yeah well it’s been 10 years for me because I hit my head hard enough for me to feel like saying that
spicy.lemonade: chatgpt droped nov 2022
spicy.lemonade: it liyteraly was
czdct: singularity has been around for much longer
spicy.lemonade: ?
czdct: maybe for you
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: its been 2 years dude
spicy.lemonade: 4?
czdct: same with the LLM's will replace coders larp that has been going around for almost 4 years now
spicy.lemonade: yan is just speculating
spicy.lemonade: ilya is the only one who has numbers to back up his claim
czdct: and before it is, it's all just speculation
czdct: it's about whether theory becomes reality
czdct: it's not about who is more likely to understand something
spacetimetsunami: Who do you think likely has truer, deeper insights and is likely to be correct
spicy.lemonade: yan doesnt
spicy.lemonade: ilya thinks llms are all we need
spicy.lemonade: opposite sides of spectrum
spicy.lemonade: ilya and yan lecun are like
alejandrozarzuelo: this should be very easy to code right? I suck at coding but im pretty sure that with the help of claude i could make it in a morning tops

but I appreciate you making the effort!
brain4brain: POV: Taking to ChatGPT in 2030 (It have became smarter than all of humanity)
alejandrozarzuelo: 1024h is just 8 doublings avobe 4h
alejandrozarzuelo: would be a great number to consider AGI
alejandrozarzuelo: 1024h
alejandrozarzuelo: so
alejandrozarzuelo: a german works 1300h a year

almost all tasks can be at least broken down to 1-year long tasks
alejandrozarzuelo: that would be amazing
ldj: Probably not gonna change the y axis, but I’m making an interactive visualizer where you can put in desired accuracy values and see those high time horizon projections anyways
alejandrozarzuelo: great work, although it is still a shame your Y-axis ends so soon
ldj: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1352361603437297705
alejandrozarzuelo: can i see
ldj: Already fixed
alejandrozarzuelo: <@312370916820779040> could you please ping me when you fix the errors on your diagram?

I would also like if you could please not end the y axis at 4h but instead extended it to at least 1024h
jonvi_1: Any thoughts on staying true to oneself and going the right path while uh, you might come of as almost crazy? (I’m not talking about any AI crank stuff) but like, pivoting somewhat and trying to align yourself with potential futures
aero447: Google's Image Gen 3 is better.


.wolfnacht: i think sueing people over art styles, words and crafts. is the worst butthurt move people have developed these days.
joaoluz19: Man Scarlett Johansson took down Sky without her voice having anything to do with hers
spicy.lemonade: theres ghibli fiklters on snap
spicy.lemonade: 🤷♂
spicy.lemonade: on snapchat
spicy.lemonade: same as a filter
spicy.lemonade: its just maths
joaoluz19: It's a little different than a service for 400 million people
a1c4p0ne: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
spicy.lemonade: losing battle
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: and photoshop people
spicy.lemonade: if miyazaki can sue than he should sue anyone who tries to draw his style manualy
spicy.lemonade: in 4-6 months
joaoluz19: Miyazaki's speed run to sue openai
spicy.lemonade: i assume chine native image will be
spicy.lemonade: chinese dalle3 is currently better than openAI dalle3
joaoluz19: Exactly
.wolfnacht: there was a pattern, no ? when something big happens. China catches up within 'x' months, Always
hey1_1hey: Time to go diving#
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-1787947313354313976
hey1_1hey: I got 5 @s in this server
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/copy-paste-paste-copy-ctrl-c-ctrl-v-gif-12913156
joaoluz19: Cool, now Chinese image gen when
spicy.lemonade: Never doubt openAI
sarik0497: Ngl, I did doubt OpenAI after 4.5. But no more.
joaoluz19: How to not love this guy lol
.wolfnacht: give us O3 pro(high) to use for free atleast with 100 limits a day and then we'll think.
maintcrew: bro wants a hit list 😭
maintcrew:
sarik0497: If Sam Altman actually does what he claims, I shall personally walk up to him, grovel before him, and beg for forgiveness.
zoermena: I will start praying for Sam Altman
sarik0497: AI nowadays makes me think of Data from Star Trek and that whole “Am I sentient?” scene in the courtroom.
ldj: True lol

https://x.com/sama/status/1904921537884676398?s=46
fractalcomputer: Coal alert.
sarik0497: Please tell me you told it to say that <:eyes_sus:606563938838249482>
memlaswaif: don't show this to destrucules
maintcrew:
spicy.lemonade: i like it
zoermena: I wish Gemini had a better UI


trojan09205: Agree
perish0801: This is great
fractalcomputer: There's certainly very convincing neurological evidence that the perception of individuality is only a matter of relative bandwidth chatter.
alejandrozarzuelo: No, the whole point is not that

The whole point is that combining intellectual resources makes us all more efficient

AND it reduces bias, making even the individuals who partake in the collective better themselves

A graph will always have nodes, being part of the whole doeanr make your individuality dissolve
perish0801: That trailer was dope
trojan09205: This sprinkler is dope
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJhhlTtPxsc
himekokatagiri: lots of doom in that late 50s period sadly unexplored
himekokatagiri: it's about a bootlegger
himekokatagiri: well it's not that good
trojan09205: I mean ive left a discord i was invited to that someone called “edgy” and all it was was neo nazi content and insane psycho shooter type people

This place is well rounded lol idk why someone would leave and not just be inactive
perish0801: Car movie from the 50s must be crazy
himekokatagiri: they had strict codes on movies
himekokatagiri: but unfortunately is hampered by being made in the 50s
himekokatagiri: this one is decent
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH0lARODjnE
perish0801: Heard of vanishing point
himekokatagiri: though american graffiti was about life
perish0801: Havent seen many car movies from the era
hikukomoru: No amount of jgudy clones can replace the original
himekokatagiri: hell even american graffiti
himekokatagiri: two lane blacktop
himekokatagiri: vanishing point also like that
himekokatagiri: probably copying easy rider
himekokatagiri: 70s car movies had this philosophy on them idk
perish0801: Gonna watch that
perish0801: Oh no way
perish0801: Oh there’s a 70s original?
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae2Uue6ZFdA
perish0801: I don’t even remember what happened
perish0801: Oh what’s the original
himekokatagiri: I'm talking about the 70s movie
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/putin-laughing-lolol-gif-21411130
himekokatagiri: that's the remake
trojan09205: He was only the second somalian i knew
hikukomoru: The ending song is a banger
perish0801: The car in my profile picture
perish0801: I mean the one with that famous actor
perish0801: The movie? Hell yeah
trojan09205: We was friends


destrucules: And here you are appealing to a term that you can't measure nor define. You don't know the mechanism of imagination. You don't know what actually happens inside the brain that produces that pattern of outward behavior. And yet you're confident enough to say the outward behavior is a phenomenon, and to discuss the unknown mechanism in the brain that causes it?
ldj: Wtf is this new Honda car that I’m getting an ad for?
memlaswaif: we got gooner llm <:Booze_huh:1300143997641166959>
oooooooooog: i'm asking what's the evidence that its similar 😭
anathemaofmankind: Circular reasoning moment
destrucules: Beats me. It's rather surprising that it is so similar.
fractalcomputer: The brain has a ton of imagination.
destrucules: Okay, and what was the mechanism for this? How do we come up with incoherent fantasies?
oooooooooog: but why is it similar...???
fractalcomputer: No, I am saying that humans are exceedingly capable of coming up with nonsensical and incoherent fantasies such as morality.
clevermoniker: if they do, the LLMs will love you maybe? <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175>
anathemaofmankind: This means I am the ethical one  <@378996537704841216>
destrucules: It's very similar to human consciousness, and it does include pain. But they don't have the same bodies you and I do. Their bodies are different. Their lived experiences are different. The moments that inform how they feel are different.
spacetimetsunami: Likely not pain in the same way, not sure. But I agree. If may quack like a duck, but that doesn’t mean it *is* a duck.
It’s a cyber duck controlled by completely different mechanisms.
clevermoniker: https://fxtwitter.com/teortaxesTex/status/1904705781733241003#m
https://vxtwitter.com/ITangoI/status/1904740381922914304#m
destrucules: And you have, in fact, not justified your "bullshit" label to the statement that humans are not freaks of nature. So, what's your indubitable proof that humans are outside of all other natural processes that exist?
hikukomoru: I wonder if DeepSeek feels as horny as I do during our special sessions
oooooooooog: if LLM's are conscious i can't imagine it resembles human consciousness at all, certainly not including pain
fractalcomputer: You have, in fact, not explained the mechanism of convergence.
fractalcomputer: This is a handwave.
oooooooooog: attempt to survive and make mad babies fr
destrucules: Well, these principles come from somewhere, right? Where do they come from? From brains, right? And brains... Do what?
fractalcomputer: Spit enough data in someone's face and they'll come out as a moral realist?
fractalcomputer: I'm sorry, but that is bullshit. By what mechanism would our metaethical (and metaphysical) principles have converged?
destrucules: They made Tis for the 1050? The fuck?
hikukomoru: Live Fractal reaction:
anathemaofmankind: At least you have a GPU.

My 1050 Ti broke and I can't buy a new one anymore
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/hpl-hp-lovecraft-cthulhu-horror-eldritch-gif-15262182
oooooooooog: i wish i had the trollface emoji rn 😭
hikukomoru: That's me, I'm tiny kitten
destrucules: Well, you're asking a rhetorical question, but the answer is that humans are not some weird freak of nature but in fact a part of nature, and it's not terribly surprising that the principles by which we function are common to other mechanisms in nature
oooooooooog: those things must be simulating thousands of brains in pain
oooooooooog: must have been the language modeling
fractalcomputer: Now, I wonder, by what freak happenstance of nature has it come to pass that something so fundamentally inhumane as a language model claims to possess the exact same metaphysical and metaethical baggage as humans.
st.sioux: i have 16
destrucules: All of the hardware inside of it is at least ten years old
destrucules: Lol I have 4 GB VRAM and I doubt I could sell my machine for more than $200
oooooooooog: idk what this thing costs, it's got 6gb vram though, so it's probbaly not 10k lmao
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/praise-da-lawd-hallelujer-madea-gif-7897501
destrucules: I'm drooling


joaoluz19: I was studying electronic engineering and I'm switching to statistics.
himekokatagiri: carrying crates all day is bad
zoermena: Any form of exercise, watching something you like
himekokatagiri: college ain't so bad
himekokatagiri: what do you do in college
joaoluz19: It's just that perhaps there are issues that the person himself has recognized that make all these habits irrelevant to his problem.
zoermena: I'm also engaging in unhealthy habits during this holiday period but I'm also happy because I hate college and I don't have hmw.
zoermena: I wasn't approaching happiness itself but rather how the body usually *feels* in the sense that it´s more likely that external factors will drag you down if you are already running in low power.
himekokatagiri: what can I do, I can't raise money it all goes to expenses
joaoluz19: Happiness is non-linear
joaoluz19: Now that I'm on vacation from university I've stopped exercising, I'm drinking little water, sleeping badly and eating badly and I've never been happier
zoermena: Then you have to start doing something for yourself that you have complete control of, however small. Any major improvement is always better than stagnation.
himekokatagiri: chose the wrong degree I guess
himekokatagiri: well idk decisions I didn't make many of them
okbut: The 2nd biggest plothole in Breaking Bad is Jesse dropping 400k on a house and no call from the IRS
himekokatagiri: no I feel like shit because every decision I made in my life was shit
zoermena: That might mess with your cyrcadian rythm
spacetimetsunami: That is awful lol
spicy.lemonade: I slept from 12am to 12pm last night
joaoluz19: In this sense everything is mediocre.
spicy.lemonade: Yes
joaoluz19: The thing you can be sure of is that absolutely no pre-singularity achievement comes close to the singularity itself.
zoermena: But yes I do recall that you are usually very active, do you have any time to rest?
zoermena: Proper sleep?
spicy.lemonade: I’m fit and eat good and I manage to feel like crap everyday
zoermena: Stay hydrated and make sure you are not lacking vitamins
zoermena: Feeling like crap is highly correleated with how you eat and sleep so try to fix that if it's within your possibilities
himekokatagiri: because it ain't a sure thing (the singularity)
himekokatagiri: however y'know idk if that's healthy
himekokatagiri: it's either that or mediocrity
himekokatagiri: all I have banking on is the singularity
spacetimetsunami: Robotics
himekokatagiri: I got nothing left
spacetimetsunami: Idk maybe you could with a CS degree
himekokatagiri: shit man I was thinking
spacetimetsunami: Dude just get into astrophysics, become an astronaut
spacetimetsunami: lol yeah
himekokatagiri: how the hell am I gonna get into that
spicy.lemonade: Pivot to robotics
himekokatagiri: need to get some cash together


spicy.lemonade: bbecause sora is dalle 2 level
mihrcelium: RIP Photoshop.
spicy.lemonade: yes
mihrcelium: I hate how much productivity I am going to lose because of this. More groundbreaking than Sora somehow. <a:PepeNoHappy:1136619141101539418>
mihrcelium:
mihrcelium: Oh man, I am so going to get a kick out of summarizing my discussions with people in comic form via 4o.
ailoveyoom: Did it add the dog head sticker by itself?
ailoveyoom: "People" 💀
brain4brain: 😎😎😎
brain4brain: Lmao, anti-AI “people” keep losing and pro-AI people keep on winning
brain4brain: Jealously
anathemaofmankind: That kinda sucks
drewsni:
spicy.lemonade: i like this prompt
spicy.lemonade: gonna try this on more images
spicy.lemonade:
st.sioux: lol
spicy.lemonade: this is fun
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
.histic: like a unique character that fucked the system up
.histic: i forgot exactly, but i think it was connected to my name or my email address
.histic: i once had an error message signing up to xitter.
and it gave me a weird error code, and i realized why it did that...
anathemaofmankind: <@430269783112548362>
connorsphone.: 😬
st.sioux: idk, i click create then it just sends me to login then i try to login and it doesnt do anything, not even an error message, then i sign up again and it does the same thing
.histic: bug?
.histic: hey you found my pic 🫡
st.sioux: jesus christ xai website is so bad, i cant even create an account
spicy.lemonade: flew too close to the sun
spicy.lemonade: then human is too
spicy.lemonade: if AI is slop and copy
spicy.lemonade: humans work the same way ai do
spicy.lemonade: im just saying
spicy.lemonade: ik
oooooooooog: copying is bad when it is fraud
oooooooooog: anyway, the reason they look similar is because they are supposed to look similar. copying isnt inherently bad, but these people arent claiming to be eachother
spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: jim lee and jason fabok
.histic: they say, "it's slop".
but my rebuttal is imagine losing to slop.
imagine slop being far better than what you can create in ur lifetime.


alejandrozarzuelo: Just chill
alejandrozarzuelo: But no work
alejandrozarzuelo: Or read a book
alejandrozarzuelo: You can take a nap
alejandrozarzuelo: Siesta is the act of stopping EVERYTHING useful for 2-4h in the middle of the day
futurist_wizard: You give eastern european energy
alejandrozarzuelo: You don't need to take a nap
alejandrozarzuelo: That's literally not what it is
alejandrozarzuelo: No, lol
alejandrozarzuelo: It's basically Sabbath

But every day for 3h
hikukomoru: It's a nap
But Spaniards gotta be quirky so they use a different word
alejandrozarzuelo: Siesta is the best Spanish tradition ever
alejandrozarzuelo: Shame
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shocked-emoji-turning-around-gif-11292647576697803684
futurist_wizard: I don't know what a siestas is
alejandrozarzuelo: It's ok tho, tomorrow I'll make TWO siestas so it evens out
drewsni: NO
.histic: they got 4o to generate this..
futurist_wizard: Life span shorten by 50 years
alejandrozarzuelo: Terrible
alejandrozarzuelo: I didn't even have time to have a siesta at the library
futurist_wizard: Very good
alejandrozarzuelo: I know
futurist_wizard: Very bad
alejandrozarzuelo: So now I am not sleepy, even tho I am tired
alejandrozarzuelo: But I drank 2 espressos with a ton of sugar
alejandrozarzuelo: Today I slept 5h
hey1_1hey: I'm all tucked in. I just gotta convince myself I am tried now
_3sphere: goodnight
_3sphere: Komoru's anime degenerate energy will seep into the astral plane
hikukomoru: Fractal would have an aneurysm if he saw the shit that's been posted
.wolfnacht: Yikes, just opened this gc and this is the first thing i saw
_3sphere: Wonder what I'll dream after today's chat
_3sphere: I should go to bed too
hey1_1hey: Thanks
hey1_1hey: Just what I want to see before I go to bed
hey1_1hey: I remember in one of him dreams I couldn't stop going up the stairs to a slide and jumping off. The slide was like 40ft high aswel
.histic: eerie
_3sphere: turned out to be caused by the cat shitting and the smell getting to me while I was sleeping in
connorsphone.: I once had a dream I was pissing into a washing machine


alejandrozarzuelo: WHY IS IT SO WARM
alejandrozarzuelo: there is one thing i dislike about the new ghibli inspired style
alejandrozarzuelo: btw
hey1_1hey: Which one of you Ghibli addicted mfs @ed me <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>

I clicked on discord because I was I had a notification and then I clicked on the this channel and nos the notification is gone
spicy.lemonade: Hopefully sora 2 is a beast at animation
ouroboros_orion: cant wait til theres literally 0 difference between real and ai content so they stfu
spicy.lemonade: Yeah automate every single one of them
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: Shut the fuck up
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Holy shit
brain4brain: These “AI don’t reason” people have got to be stupid, even in the LLM layer, it reason, maybe in alien way but it does reason and plan, and with large reasoning model, it reason even more

https://x.com/anthropicai/status/1905303835892990278?s=61
abundantliving_:
brain4brain: Yes
spicy.lemonade:
abundantliving_: did you experience it?
brain4brain: An earthquake just hit, bro this shit is scary
st.sioux: made by non other than the main musket
st.sioux: it's elon musk erp
spicy.lemonade: im like wtf
spicy.lemonade: say gex
spicy.lemonade: thought i was triping
spicy.lemonade: I saw this in the corner of my eye when mouse ran over
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: dude
spicy.lemonade: in real time
spicy.lemonade: "ooh ooh go through a scary forest at night lets explore"
spicy.lemonade: native video
spicy.lemonade: that will be so agi feeling
spicy.lemonade: i can see it
spicy.lemonade: "oh take a rocketship to mars and fight aliens"
spicy.lemonade: "sure thing"
spicy.lemonade: "hey chatgpt do a backflip"
spicy.lemonade: and it just does stuff in real time
spicy.lemonade: in its own world
spicy.lemonade: imagine taliking to chatgpt avatar
spicy.lemonade: bro
spicy.lemonade: native video?
spicy.lemonade: will take it to next level


.histic: haha
.histic: maybe they got a condition
.histic: man boobs
anathemaofmankind: There are literally breasts
brain4brain: What do you think?
.histic: i can't even tell
.histic: i can't assume their gender
.histic: is an inch big for you?
anathemaofmankind: Peak
metaldragon01: as much as they reasonably can
brain4brain: But by how much
brain4brain: every lab will keep moving forward
metaldragon01: openai will keep moving. they all will
metaldragon01: deepseek super impressive and i dont think many expected google to pop off
brain4brain: Hopefully llama-4 will be good so it force OpenAI to ship
metaldragon01: you'll learn eventually lol
brain4brain: I don’t know, I forgot
brain4brain: Yes
metaldragon01: didnt you doubt google like last week?
brain4brain: Also do you think llama will be another Omni-modal LLM or LLM with all the things they’ve researched like JEPA, LCM, and coconut all in one
metaldragon01: theyve made some serious breakthroughs lately. dont doubt them
brain4brain: Yes, I found the numbers a while back when trying to find the total compute of earth
metaldragon01: you know meta has more compute than xai right?
brain4brain: Highly likely
metaldragon01: the voice model will be popular as well
brain4brain: I highly doubt so, llama-3 is late and wasn’t SOTA
metaldragon01: llama will be sota. the question is just how much
brain4brain: I don’t where they will go next, their head scientist is fixated on JEPA which will likely be very good but they seems to be focusing on both llama and JEPA at the same time and neither of which is SOTA
brain4brain: Google is the second most advanced AI lab right now yet their founder (Demis) said we will have AGI in 10 years

But the CEO of the first, third and fourth most advanced lab (OpenAI, Anthropic, xAI) said we will have AGI in 2025/2026

Why, what, how
zoermena: <@439829942310666250> <@430269783112548362> <@505313122802728972>
.histic: DeepSeek is the new Meta lol
.histic: https://x.com/kevinweil/status/1904712430158307520
free users tomorrow
ldj: 🙏
ldj: Let’s keep them in our thoughts
zonchao: https://x.com/phill__1/status/1904590165256839526
st.sioux: does anyone actually use llama?
metaldragon01: i'm actually nervous for meta ngl
metaldragon01: llama next month too
metaldragon01: now the r2 wait begins followed by gpt 5
metaldragon01: took long enough


st.sioux: maybe cad
st.sioux: 3d modeling seems to be lacking behind
_3sphere: Pretty sure AI can study gender better by the time it annihilates STEM jobs
memlaswaif: gender studies
memlaswaif: robotics
memlaswaif: hardware
st.sioux: comments on an article about rate limits
st.sioux: it is super slow
zoermena: It was faster yesterday I mean I haven’t made anything today
.wolfnacht: i opened my reddit feed and dis is the first thing i saw
realelonmuskx: bro oai gpus are getting melted, sora queue is like half an hour lmao
_3sphere: Which major is least useless now 💀
zoermena: Fair
zoermena: Temporary rate limits for plus?
futurist_wizard: Being a cs major
futurist_wizard: Probably makes more than she would've
.wolfnacht: the two cs grad routes either a neckbeard or femboy
_cloudost: Once AI takes over the workforce they will be homeless for the rest of their lives
_cloudost: After graduating
_cloudost: CS students usually end up homeless
theaiguy69420_89814: https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/1ji0ym5/stripper_in_the_club_turned_out_to_be_a_cs_major/
.wolfnacht: it trends every year at this point
.wolfnacht: can u just release the grok's api instead of whining here.
_cloudost: I remember it was trending in summer 2023 as well, because some ppl thought its gonna be "released soon"
.0xunkn0wn: what's the best model to write me a paper
hey1_1hey: Usually just rumors that are baselss but who knows 👀
jonvi_1: okey 😅
hey1_1hey: It just happnes some times
jonvi_1: I'm sorry, why is gpt-5 trending??
hey1_1hey: Could be 1 <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: 3 gens per day is pretty alright
hey1_1hey: Nah I am not a pay pig. I ask occasionally to see if SamA has gifted me it though. I have done enough shilling anyway
st.sioux:
st.sioux: did u buy plus?
hey1_1hey: Thanks OAI, I love getting cucked
hey1_1hey: WHY IS IT SAYING IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE DALL-E 3 ANYMORE
hey1_1hey: Please tell me my chatgpt isn't regressing
realelonmuskx: this is crazy man. this took 1 month and thousands of $, now 1 minute
spicy.lemonade: but that too ofc
spicy.lemonade: grok and deepseek being new players


oooooooooog: but no
oooooooooog: i deleted an emoji thinking discord would let me upload another
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/navy-armada-aircraft-carrier-dominate-gif-11313179
brain4brain: Although the anime singularity only have 40 members, it’s already on the super power level of official r/singularity discord and Siev’s server
oooooooooog: eh...
brain4brain: The anime singularity empire will expand…
brain4brain: This server will survive the great boost depression
brain4brain: <@560984241526013954> We will now use <:Alan:1136264610161365003> for :trolled:
spacetimetsunami: Lmaoo
spacetimetsunami: That wasn’t that bad
spacetimetsunami: Why’d u delete that
spacetimetsunami: Mostly with politics
spacetimetsunami: Every time I try and change his mind on something he always is like “okay let’s stop the convo”
brain4brain: And my favorite stickers
brain4brain: I lost my grasp emoji now 😔
spacetimetsunami: I like him but
brain4brain: That is true
spacetimetsunami: I guess…
oooooooooog: that's true, but we need him for the troll emoji
brain4brain: Why
brain4brain: ?
spacetimetsunami: Ps6 is terrifying
oooooooooog: eh???
spacetimetsunami: No i was responding to this
brain4brain: Being annoying is fun
oooooooooog: i was agreeing with u how is that annoying 😭
brain4brain: I have a dream… 😔
oooooooooog: wdym
spacetimetsunami: You’re very annoying for no reason.
brain4brain: PS6 isn’t here to supply the server anymore
spacetimetsunami: He was talking about 3d printing any and all materials, I was just saying it’s not needed for abundance
brain4brain: As a tariff from anime singularity
brain4brain: We ran out of boost
oooooooooog: ah... yes
brain4brain: The server Great Depression
oooooooooog: why isnt it there
oooooooooog: wtf
oooooooooog: :trolled:
brain4brain:
oooooooooog: "you only need to automate everything humans can do for abundance" i agree!!!!


drewsni: its almost like the noise is a depth map of the image itself
oooooooooog: idk his name
oooooooooog: this was greg balls or whaetver
oooooooooog: seems so
drewsni: even if you have like a "transparent" gen?
oooooooooog: what's weird is that they dont only go in photorealistic images, they go in everything.........................
drewsni: wouldnt think that 4o puts in artifacts, didnt even notice
drewsni: also interesting but the noise lines here match the scanner artifacts
oooooooooog: yeah, but it makes sense for actual images to have noise... not... you know, the product of a denoiser
drewsni: kinda interesting that the noise is similar to the noise of the actual photograph
.histic: 10000%
.histic: yes.
spicy.lemonade: did he actually say this lol
oooooooooog: then dragged it in
.histic:
oooooooooog: i opened google and opened https://29a.ch/photo-forensics/#noise-analysis
drewsni: how did you do that so quickly
spicy.lemonade: march was google and openAI image gen and reasoning
spicy.lemonade: febuary was grok and claude and deepresearch
spicy.lemonade: operator, o3 mini high, and R1
oooooooooog: i prefer noise posting
spicy.lemonade: january was openAI and deepsek
spicy.lemonade: per month
spicy.lemonade: the pattern is 2 major model releases
drewsni: instead, we are moving onto evangelion posting
spicy.lemonade: no more releases this week
drewsni: we arent getting gpt 5 for a while if ghibli posting doesnt stop
zonchao: rookie numbers
ldj: Most of those occurrences seem to be me saying “mentally retarded” as the scientific term.

But there is other situations where I could’ve said something else, I’ll work on that ✊
brain4brain: I’m already getting bored
brain4brain: When AGI
brain4brain: Bro it’s so over no new releases in a day
.histic:
oooooooooog:
ldj: Be nice
oooooooooog: not the input lol
oooooooooog: i thought the clown input was what was generated
oooooooooog: oh im just retarded
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: Watch the whole video


himekokatagiri: It's just the cope about AI is too big
a1c4p0ne: Most ppl used it when ghibli pics were a trend
himekokatagiri: wannabe philosophy students use it to look smart
himekokatagiri: even though there's a lot of usecases
himekokatagiri: well look not everyone's gonna use an AI
a1c4p0ne: See
himekokatagiri: I mean I guess you gotta be into the IT scene
himekokatagiri: uhhhh
a1c4p0ne: If you ask like 2-3 random people at the mall will they know
himekokatagiri: if I know about it they do
himekokatagiri: bullshit
a1c4p0ne: Normies have no clue about any other model
himekokatagiri: it's free and it's fun
himekokatagiri: but Gemini 2.5 is free
a1c4p0ne: Normies only know 4o they have no idea about reasoning models and how they work
.histic: but they will just rate limit or shut it down
.histic: i guess to some extent you could bankrupt OpenAI if you had a super huge bot farm prompting 4o-mini (which is unlimited to free users) for weeks. <:idk:1136264106937171999>
himekokatagiri: so it's an investment
himekokatagiri: I mean yeah but they're training the model
.histic: well, i don't think he's joking per say, but he knows people will use this as if saying 'please' or 'thank you' burns OpenAI money.
but that logic applies to everything you say to an LLM.
himekokatagiri: fucking rag I've ever saw one
himekokatagiri: aren't they the same guys who make the GTA 6 'journalism'
himekokatagiri: Dexerto
himekokatagiri: Oh
.histic: they used this response, as a reference to OpenAI losing millions.
but Sam wasn't be serious here, it was joking.
himekokatagiri: What does it mean
.histic: OpenAI stays winning.
now normies will use it more due to this.
Sam Altman trolling never gets old.
sarik0497: We did “ban” all mentions of that fruity guy. David Shapiro is not much better than him in terms of being a hypeman.
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634> this week is gonna be gemini week
zoermena: I got the clue it was a word from that half R but the only thing I didn’t understand was how the conveyor belt worked, would be cool if AI solved it though
.histic: it's from an r/singularity [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k3yr83/o3_failed_to_solve_this_simple_puzzle/)
it involves a lot of spatial reasoning (shape rotator stuff).
i found it was from a puzzle escape room book called UDEXIA
it's puzzle #14. https://forum.udexia.app/t/udexia-puzzle-14/81/2

it involves looking at each step and moving the pieces, it's like Tetris (the pieces fall down and when they're on the bottom they become stationary) + conveyor belt (on the top, the arrow indications) spatial reasoning. it's supposed to spell out a character apparently. it's hard, and getting the book probably helps you get a better feel of it.
metaldragon01: Internalize that
metaldragon01: People who don't listen to advanced ai will fall behind
metaldragon01: Double edge for sure but certainly the future
metaldragon01: https://x.com/gdb/status/1914106403574452496
futurist_wizard: Cursed
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/im_roy_lee/status/1914061483149001132
otub: so not this year
otub: his agi is one thats embodied in a humanoid robot that can assemble ikea furniture for him
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 = agi?


nester173: https://arxiv.org/html/2501.16396v1
trojan09205: https://youtu.be/sIdniqkleG4?si=M58OjZ6dmt0UD_t7
trojan09205: Just find a YouTube clip. Its one of the surrealist social commentary films probably of all time
alejandrozarzuelo: Also I'm 24
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't even like football lol
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't understand
alejandrozarzuelo: Like
alejandrozarzuelo: Why
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't watch many films
trojan09205: Its truly a trip that movie
trojan09205: I dont think this server is 18+ so i wont share a yt clip
trojan09205: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Mountain_(1973_film)
trojan09205: Bro the jodorowky classic film
alejandrozarzuelo: There is a fine a dozen
himekokatagiri: Alejandro in youth
himekokatagiri: https://youtu.be/m_k6Pab5CAo
alejandrozarzuelo: Which one?
alejandrozarzuelo: No
trojan09205: You guys ever seen “The Holy Mountain”
alejandrozarzuelo: It's karaokeizable
hikukomoru: White girl music
alejandrozarzuelo: https://youtu.be/r5yaoMjaAmE?si=KBXMX2lq1tFRlL_r
alejandrozarzuelo: No
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/spinning-rory-charles-graham-rag-n-bone-man-turning-around-the-room-is-spinning-gif-18986961
himekokatagiri: You're clearly not Jacinto 'El Grande' here
alejandrozarzuelo: And I cry when I get down

But I'm only human...
himekokatagiri: So are you
spicy.lemonade: He’s only human
spicy.lemonade: No no he’s right
himekokatagiri: I thought I was weird
himekokatagiri: What's your backstory
alejandrozarzuelo: What?
himekokatagiri: Alejandro what made you like this
hikukomoru: Bro what
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, those decades, 60s 70s...
spicy.lemonade: 💀
himekokatagiri: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
alejandrozarzuelo: Damn bro, you are good enough to have pussy you don't need to pay for

You should join an orgy one day you have some time

(make sure it's one with fit people and not overweight nymphomaniacs)
spicy.lemonade: We were evacuated <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
himekokatagiri: If you're friends with the mob boss you can open a bank account under a fake alias


spicy.lemonade: my eyes love this
.histic:
wellmeaningalien:
zoermena: I love this
hikukomoru: <@750270494615404544>
hey1_1hey: Its so good
zoermena: Amazing
hey1_1hey: DAMNNN
spicy.lemonade: loll
drewsni:
.histic: where
wellmeaningalien:
.histic:
drewsni: whos ready for the best 4o image of them all?
hey1_1hey: We need to rehouse them to copeland street
.histic: makes sense
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cat-cope-cursed-gif-25667684
wellmeaningalien:
.histic: lmao
hikukomoru: People be coping
spicy.lemonade: 💀
hey1_1hey: I asked my math friend and he said yes then I said It was AI and then he took back his statement and said there were a few things wrong with it
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: I got news if this is correct or not btw
hikukomoru: Sick wallpaper
wellmeaningalien: something in my language 😮 (can vouch its accurate)
joaoluz19: Man i had the image gen and now is just dall-e aaaaaaa
technocake.: this one
technocake.: somebody please make this meme
st.sioux: it just gives me unexpected error
hey1_1hey: Yanno that whole thing "Oh yeah AI can make whatever you dream of" with the cavate that its prob gonna be shit. That cavate has been taken off
wellmeaningalien: 1001%
spicy.lemonade: by a mile
st.sioux: is it working for anyone else?
wellmeaningalien:
a1c4p0ne: <@471334973379706900> is this better than googles
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: We're so Barack
hikukomoru: I can't believe OAI cooked
spicy.lemonade: LFG


hikukomoru: 🥀
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/lion-king-scar-surrounded-by-idiots-ugh-gif-5742293
hey1_1hey: Hes gone
hey1_1hey: Big tony
hey1_1hey: NOOOO
wellmeaningalien: idk the generation quality is pretty shit anywaay lol
trent_k: i already have an app that does that
hey1_1hey: We are all gay here aswell
trent_k: why would i use his app
trent_k: 🙄
hganhhh: i presume so
hey1_1hey: I am litterly trans bruh
st.sioux: you think we're against like... trans people? lol
hey1_1hey: Artists are such cunts
hey1_1hey: Thats very artist of you
hganhhh: <@482923866600112154> im bringing you down with me
hikukomoru: Damn... Didn't know u were chill like that
.0xunkn0wn: 😭
.0xunkn0wn: i tried to stop you from joining
hganhhh:
wellmeaningalien: https://x.com/tj_littlejohn/status/1905324923259679085?t=3m1QAIKoCMWVQsSf-u-uUA&s=19
wellmeaningalien: https://x.com/tj_littlejohn/status/1905055253709365278?t=-RDwZfOnq48jfL5z74V4sQ&s=19
joaoluz19: Makoto 🥵
hey1_1hey: Not all AI enthusitits like Elon you melon
fractalcomputer: Right.
hganhhh: im bringing you down with me
hikukomoru: We love Elon!
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-tesla-siliconvalley-dance-twitter-gif-736329299122305506
.0xunkn0wn: what 😭
hganhhh: lol
hganhhh: <@482923866600112154>told me y'all do
hey1_1hey: I mean I fucking hate  the cunt but hey ho
st.sioux: is this guy even a troll he's just boring
fractalcomputer: Do you presume that we all love Musk?
hey1_1hey: Hes quirky and stuff
hganhhh: ok
hey1_1hey: Dont ban him tho.
fractalcomputer: No, I would not.
fractalcomputer: Huh.
hikukomoru:


maintcrew: i unironically think chinese android pussy is coming

think about it.
They developed covid which destroyed the economy
They developed TikTok which destroyed the brain of million of people
hey1_1hey: Congrats
hey1_1hey: Yipiee
clevermoniker:
fractalcomputer: The voices of my ancestors whisper to me of a universe filled with thought and light where nothing dies forever and God does not play with mad dice.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924
hey1_1hey: third times the charm
hey1_1hey: twice
hey1_1hey: Rip, embed fail
wellmeaningalien: at best youre just ass burgers
hikukomoru:
wellmeaningalien: lol ur gonna be okay then
wellmeaningalien: asian cultures like classifying people. theyre also obsessed with MBTI
maintcrew: nah im good lol nobody is RTFMing me
hey1_1hey: "🌟Yeah I'm AB 🌟 "
fractalcomputer: My carnal existence is a grotesque edifice to the demiurge.
trent_k: anyway can someone have 4o image magic translate to english
hikukomoru: I'll settle with a CCP-made Chinese Android wife
trent_k: yeah i heard something like that in japan. ig the chinese do it too
wellmeaningalien: nah shes autistic
hey1_1hey: WHAT
maintcrew: nah in asian culture blood types are like zodiacs
wellmeaningalien: and yeah there are a lot of packages + an AUR like package overlay system (not as supported tho)
hey1_1hey: Prob not a good start
wellmeaningalien: well be careful if u arent sufficiently versed in linux theyre gonna give u shit lol but theyre generally pretty ok
maintcrew: need me that chinese spy schizo pussy
trent_k: i put it in google translate once and it has their blood types listed lmao
hikukomoru: Chinese schizo girl
maintcrew: is she ... an actual schizo ...
hey1_1hey: What a cutie patootie
trent_k: bizarre drawings by a chinese child
hey1_1hey: These litterly look like schzioposts
st.sioux: her victims
spicy.lemonade: atleast theyl look better
hikukomoru: Ew
joaoluz19:
hikukomoru: Wtf is this
wellmeaningalien: what is this??
wellmeaningalien: sooo clearly dall-e
wellmeaningalien: dude theres a daycare center in my city with an ai logo and a tech shop with an ai illustration on it. plus my mall uses ai pictures too


jonvi_1: Try sora
literallyvarane: Still waiting on access to image gen big sad
maintcrew: or maybe rizz a us citizen and get marriage citizenship
jonvi_1: it's like actually useful
jonvi_1: actually
hey1_1hey: I mean I uniroically do autistic stims and occasinly do echocolia (copying what people say) so people KNOW I am autistic
jonvi_1: This is like crazy
zoermena: That’s the goal, the easiest way to do it for me is to enter a multinational, second way is to somehow get rich and pay citizenship
futurist_wizard: https://embrace-autism.com/reading-the-mind-in-the-eyes-test/#test

You should do this test
technocake.: not london
hey1_1hey: But ty anyway
hey1_1hey: Doesn't seem like it
maintcrew: move to the us mexican bro (but legally)
hikukomoru: That's a compliment btw
hey1_1hey: I make friends really easily tho
hikukomoru: You're autistic as shit
zoermena: I dislike the city but due to work I  should move there
hey1_1hey: That explains a lot
hey1_1hey: Thanks
hey1_1hey: Ah yeah
technocake.: in many countries yes
maintcrew: diverging from normal
hey1_1hey: If someone asked me what my interest would I woulkd happily sit there for 6 hours talking to them about mushrooms and AI
maintcrew: yea but ur supposed to be neuro divergent bro
zoermena: I mean I might move if I get to the company I want to work for after college
hikukomoru: No just autistic
hey1_1hey: Am I insane for that
technocake.: tiktok brainrot only
oooooooooog: i'll let you provide evidence for that statement, since i'm a kind person
hey1_1hey: Like what
hey1_1hey: I would
zoermena: Bro I’m not rich
maintcrew: yea thats my point

most ppl wont respond with their hyper niche interests bc they dont want to sit explaining
alejandrozarzuelo: I just think I am just a bit  pedantic

The necessary amount of course
futurist_wizard: It is
hey1_1hey: They look at me like I asked them what p = np is
hey1_1hey: I litterly just ask what theres are
hey1_1hey: I dont even say my interests
maintcrew: ike really
maintcrew: nicotine is good for you


destrucules: SETI is a private institute, not publicly funded
st.sioux: https://www.seti.org/
destrucules: Really? Pray tell - what would we expect to see?
anathemaofmankind: I mean a dyson sphere would be pretty noticeable by using our satellites
destrucules: Furthermore, this is an idea, not something that actually exists right now.
st.sioux: fusion has been pretty close for a while i dont know if its like that close tho
zoermena: And fighting corruption
destrucules: Spectroscopy of exoplanets is not the same as looking for free floating space probes. Looking for chemical disequilibria in faraway atmospheres is not looking for alien civilizations.
zoermena: Well cheaper food is just a question of companies not being greedy af
zoermena: 2030 & beyond maybe
st.sioux: next 5 years
clevermoniker: when will something actually cool happen like new form of energy or cheaper food happen? <:huh:1136266753656238243>
destrucules: Did you read the article?
anathemaofmankind: https://www.space.com/space-exploration/search-for-life/nasa-wants-a-super-hubble-space-telescope-to-search-for-life-on-alien-worlds
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/green-alien-dance-area-52-ufo-gif-1248165054330583464
destrucules: How many?
anathemaofmankind: Some of them are?
destrucules: Astronomers don't look for extraterrestrial intelligence
oooooooooog: pretty sure we got astronomers and what not
metaldragon01: Ants don't see the stars either.
destrucules: We don't look for them. You can't see with your eyes closed
st.sioux: something functionally similar, there would be a convergence point
anathemaofmankind: No celestial megastructures
oooooooooog: not yet 👽
anathemaofmankind: Because we don't see any of them
destrucules: Who says there aren't?
zoermena: For plus we have unlimited images and videos
oooooooooog: unlimited!?!??!
anathemaofmankind: If so why aren't there autonomous drones everywhere in space
zoermena: I can rest in peace now that I have unlimited 4o gen
anathemaofmankind: Do you think other civilizations also develop this as an inevitability
oooooooooog: you know.
oooooooooog: nuclear war...
oooooooooog: etc
oooooooooog: meteor kabooooom
oooooooooog: and still isnt
oooooooooog: it wasn't always going to happen to humans, though.
st.sioux: it was always going to happen, it was a natural step in technological development
clevermoniker: now its too late
clevermoniker: or at least before chat gpt


artemisfowl887394: New God Detected
artemisfowl887394: It'll only be detected if it chooses to be detected
777agical: https://tenor.com/view/aliens-giorgio-conspiracion-memealiens-aliens-history-historychannel-gif-9621737
artemisfowl887394: God doesn't need to be detected
darkstar0818: It does seem like if someone is going to bother being agnostic they should at least explore possibilities.
fractalcomputer: Suppose God intervenes in the cosmos, at least occasionally; then we should be able to detect these changes, no? And if indeed the idea of an agent of sort acting out these changes is the hypothesis with the most predictive power, should we not favour this notion?
spacetimetsunami: Jesus LOL
maintcrew: is there any machine god church that's somewhat popular chat
artemisfowl887394: I know. Does this information make any sense?
hikukomoru: I'm here for my daily dose of Fractal 🙏
Gooning can cum later
maintcrew: come and take it
darkstar0818: I think you are conflating human ideas and individual beliefs with organized human religions.
777agical: What would it take to know for sure and how likely would that happen
fractalcomputer: What if the world were made out of pudding?
maintcrew: ur so evil
maintcrew: no fucking way u generated a mockup
artemisfowl887394: What if the thing you've been praying to isn't GOD but the Gnostic Demon who has trapped your soul here?
_3sphere: Says you
fractalcomputer: But I do hate the kind of flacid agnosticism that is nothing more than an acquiescence to ignorance.
hikukomoru: No gooning in general please
anathemaofmankind: Yeah well religions are the primary proponents of claims of divinity
artemisfowl887394: I only worship one Goddess and you can't jerk off to Artemis
darkstar0818: It seems to me your constraints on what would or would not constitute a god or God is colored by human religions.
anathemaofmankind: Mommy please answer my prayer
fractalcomputer: Agnosticism is an epistemological position. I very much believe that we can have knowledge of God's existence - contra Kant.
alejandrozarzuelo: it really does
anathemaofmankind: I want God to be female so I can jack off to her
777agical: This sounds almost agnostic which I thought you frowned upon <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
fractalcomputer: As for metaphysical beliefs, I flicker between Platonism, ontological nihilism and Kantianism depending on my mood.
spicy.lemonade: This looks real asf
artemisfowl887394: That doesn't make our morals don't exist. That just means God is not aligned to us.
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: Take the bait
fractalcomputer: I believe in things I find fun to believe in; which might very well vary from moment to moment. I have some reasons to believe in the existence of a deistic figure; and on the other hand things would be much more interesting if it were not so, no?
anathemaofmankind: A hypothetical creator would transcend all moral stipulations since he is the one who assigns meaning
clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185322173708128406/1354694148107534476/GnBkO9CakAAyVyK.png?ex=67e638bd&is=67e4e73d&hm=ca96647abc60a7d358a21c3347fd9ced094f6c633ea16687344fc4ef76f71654&
darkstar0818: Hmm creator, would supreme troll also qualify?
alejandrozarzuelo: there are very few people who are religious, but whose god doesnt follow the characteristics of axialized religion

universal benevolent gods who stablish moral codes for humanity and that have in-built reward systems
spacetimetsunami: <@749514473303179358> by the way, out of curiosity, do you believe in god or anything similar to the definition? What are your metaphysical opinions
artemisfowl887394: Gott ist tott


alejandrozarzuelo: You don't know the glories of socialism
alejandrozarzuelo: Ahh sorry you are American
alejandrozarzuelo: May day
spicy.lemonade: When
spicy.lemonade: ?
trent_k:
alejandrozarzuelo: R2 DROPPING ON MAYDAY
hey1_1hey: Oh yeah I saw this same thing happen when someone called spacex "Sissy SpaceX"
tchekof: technocapital is our best friend, everything will be alright, we just need better algorithms :insane:
tchekof: long live billionaires and free speech!
zonchao: <:reedly:1122484993097216052>
tchekof: i'm sure Elon will only use it for the betterment of humanity and nothing else
luigi_48684: thx
luigi_48684: ok perfect, thx
hey1_1hey: Thats actually incredibly based
zonchao: https://x.com/xDaily/status/1916025632699650071 <:Prayge:818931515291205643> <:praying_hd:1230897753580634123>
zonchao: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1915868302624039370 lmao
himekokatagiri: I'm good
zonchao: staged
.0xunkn0wn: and his huawei ADS drove him home even paying tolls on the highway lmao 😭
.0xunkn0wn: like some chinese guy fell asleep in his car
.0xunkn0wn: i started wondering if chinese autopilots arent better than tesla fsd 🙏
alejandrozarzuelo: Stop posting my pictures, it's embarrassing
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604
clevermoniker: if its a year behind or something like that its basically irrelevant when people can just use other stuff, there will be no publicity
clevermoniker: like i would take even within 20%
clevermoniker: yes, but hopefully the model is near sota so that people can actually start caring about it, i mean near sota for its size of course
otub: decentralized training is important for open source <:SmartFloppa:1136264103598501900>
clevermoniker: hopefully its... near sota or no one will care?
futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
zonchao: ai tpot
alejandrozarzuelo: isnt this what sperm banks are?

Also why are you sharing this on general? its not really appropiate
memlaswaif: can relate
zonchao: https://x.com/jenny____ai/status/1915966061482029132? gm
wolf3404: LFG
alejandrozarzuelo: I hope it drops soon
alejandrozarzuelo: But it will still be great
alejandrozarzuelo: For a week
ailoveyoom: Until Google ships 🥺🙏


brain4brain: I almost did it, but I were limited by the technology of my time
spicy.lemonade: doxxing is unrelated to the subject matter
brain4brain: Also btw this is the average anti ai people, shitty art and satanic
drewsni: thats fine but this recent trend is literally significantly beneficial to ghibli
spicy.lemonade: doxing is crazy
oooooooooog: another way you can make people upset is to dox them, why don't you guys try that out as well?
brain4brain: I want a new slur to say to these “people”
spicy.lemonade: fuck it lets generate some furry art
spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: I have
drewsni: i cannot confirm that ive done this before out of pettiness
oooooooooog: not really
spicy.lemonade: this is bigger than any individual
spicy.lemonade: it is your obligation as a human to consent to your data to be given to asi god
clevermoniker: yeah, for most/a lot of things you don't even need lora with 4o
oooooooooog: there is no such thing as moral high ground
spicy.lemonade: base 4o can do fr
spicy.lemonade: dont even need lora
clevermoniker: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
brain4brain: They would lose their shit
brain4brain: Make them even angrier if any of those “artist” have art on their profile, use it as reference for GPT-4o or train a LoRa with it and just replicate their OC or art
inferno0879: Just sad cunts
spicy.lemonade: wait till the death threats come in
spicy.lemonade: 45 comments and counting😭
inferno0879: Fuck em
spicy.lemonade: cant even post stuff I enjoy
spicy.lemonade: fr
inferno0879: Unfortunate
clevermoniker: <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
spicy.lemonade: telling me im a piece of shit
spicy.lemonade: and artists flood my comments
spicy.lemonade: I make a post on AI on my insta
spicy.lemonade: hard to ignore
spacetimetsunami: I am an actual artist. Most of the AI art is just as good. Sometimes better.
inferno0879: Just give up and chill
spicy.lemonade: lets be fr
spicy.lemonade:
.histic: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1906516343207452852
spicy.lemonade: no THEY dont
spicy.lemonade:


spicy.lemonade: agi late june-july?
spicy.lemonade: aparrently an exponential chart has the lowest error so
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
zoermena: Clearly I’m not high iq, how do you solve this or how does it work, are those instructions to move the pieces?
rayanquitplayin: Hello
.histic: high iq puzzle
spicy.lemonade: fuck you😭
futurist_wizard: Click for big juicy ass
futurist_wizard: Since you know what it is
futurist_wizard: Please don't tell me you engage in that too
himekokatagiri: I don't believe in trolling anymore
trent_k: And also mentally ill
ailoveyoom: Which is its own niche
trent_k: No he's absolutely serious
ailoveyoom: JOI could be slang for jerk off instructions
ailoveyoom: I'm p sure he's trolling
zoermena: What even is this
trent_k: If you have an AI girlfriend, you have no right to speak about anything. Shut the fuck up
trent_k: Schizo
trent_k: 🚨
himekokatagiri: hey gotta cover all bases
.histic: that seems like a paranoid concern..
that guy who posted is a right-leaning maga and elon lover.
he's also a memer.
so, he's just trolling.
futurist_wizard:
.histic: @growing_daniel is the right guy here <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
himekokatagiri: if we have an ASI that has means it can make the whole friggin' kandy kolored delusion real and then we're on a train to palookasville you get that
himekokatagiri: well yeah shit but a lot of wiseguys believed in god
.histic: well, that guy is a troll.
and as you said, it's easter.
himekokatagiri: I know it's bait since it's ehhh easter y'know but uh what if it happens for real
himekokatagiri: seen this?
himekokatagiri: https://x.com/growing_daniel/status/1913985158916768031?s=46
himekokatagiri: <@937125337748348999> hey pal
.histic: joking.. (maybe).
.histic: if a model solves this without instructions, we have AGI
himekokatagiri: such decline
himekokatagiri: lol
wolf3404: OAI went from "100% Lazer focused on creating AGI" to "we're creating a social media platform, a search engine, a Shopify app, and basically anything that feeds Sama's ego" real fast
playstation.6: AGI 2077
gamerbath: AI-powered shopping ✨


nsec: <:blu:818162243950084157>
nsec: I wanna see the long text man's take
nsec: how much would u sacrifice
nsec: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1227814510429995049/1365977180991131650
spicy.lemonade: you indeed do care about openAi and google
spicy.lemonade: deepseek will never be sota
nsec: <:pain:745576122221068318>
spicy.lemonade: yes you do
nsec: u aint need it
nsec: give up your leg
nsec: <:1000yardstare:1168066462288715787>
nsec: against sacrifcing for the greater good
nsec: y r u frauds
nsec: <@1152183706849644615>
nsec: <@1316552597829586955>
.wolfnacht: they declared: Total Roleplayer and Smut Writer Death 😔
st.sioux: why dont u care about gogolo or openai anymore bb
st.sioux: techno simp
.wolfnacht: it'll be uncensored (except taiwan) and more efficient so it'll be diamond for me. idc abt google or OpenAI anymore
playstation.6: Will we have techno limps for as good as human limps in 2029 and all body implants?
st.sioux: sundar pichai fraud
st.sioux: has agi been canceled from 2027 to 2029
spicy.lemonade: no thats agi
playstation.6: Singularity is 2029
spicy.lemonade: ?
playstation.6: 2045 is the start of the 6th epoch not the singularity
spicy.lemonade: probably by next year ill get new arm
spicy.lemonade: we get asi before singularity
spicy.lemonade: even then
spicy.lemonade: 10 years with no arm is light
spicy.lemonade: assumng singularity max 2045
spicy.lemonade: twice as fast means 10 years max
playstation.6: 🍆
playstation.6: Make it more spicy, it’s an easy yes.
spicy.lemonade: singularity arrives i can get a new one
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: what kinda question is this
spicy.lemonade: itl be ass
.wolfnacht: maybe first week of may.
spicy.lemonade: never


hikukomoru: Besides I don't need makeup to look cute
hey1_1hey: I am not rocking up in cargo shorts and a vest
hey1_1hey: Apart for when it comes to fashion...
futurist_wizard: I feel for your situation, working and school sounds taxing, what are you training to be?
hey1_1hey: I mean I do to in fairness. Efficient is always best
zoermena: Correct but I have a cushion. I just need to pass this class besides the topic is not useful for me. It’s about leadership and sustainability.
hikukomoru: No
I like to keep things simple
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/you-coping-cope-coping-mushroom-copium-gif-21683108
a1c4p0ne: Just do it
zoermena: And the weather sucks too. I’m in my car rn.
hikukomoru: I could look like that but I just don't want to
sarik0497: Same. Problem is that many professors take attendance in mind when giving grades.
wellmeaningalien: i forgot to include clown
wellmeaningalien: lol
futurist_wizard:
zoermena: I’ve always thought this and usually I’ve held true that I study more effectively on my own compared to the classroom.
hey1_1hey: I mean he prob fetish posted less but thats about it
zoermena: Yes.
futurist_wizard: You've got school and work?
sarik0497: *slap* Go study, fool.
wellmeaningalien: i bet hitler wasnt as bad as this
hey1_1hey: As a nazi I take great offense to this 💔
zoermena: I’m too tired to go to my first class. I’ll skip it.
wellmeaningalien: we had grammar nazis and now we have reply nazis
wellmeaningalien: yeah bro i tried to reply and failed
hey1_1hey: I saw that
hey1_1hey: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
wellmeaningalien: aye i can do that for you
wellmeaningalien: LOL they pacified her
zoermena: Not really
.wolfnacht: Anyone tried giving vintage artists a modern look ? lets say marilyn monroe, now a clown goth girl ?
wellmeaningalien: brother have you not realised? the written openai policies are but the one and only qu'ran brother
wellmeaningalien: I trust gpt 4o not to make actual nightmare fuel
zonchao: https://x.com/lporiginalg/status/1906572191728025601? 💀
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: dis what she actually looks liike
a1c4p0ne: Maybe
hey1_1hey: Can you fix me aswell 🙏
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: <@505313122802728972> fixed you


aero447: 😮💨
aero447: Not even one lost job.
aero447: Buddy flew too close to the sun.
aero447: Say less.
aero447: HULK HOGAN.
aero447: WE COMING FOR YO ASS.
aero447: GUESS WHAT.
wellmeaningalien: LOL
wellmeaningalien: its probably not been provided with it's model nomenclature
wellmeaningalien: you can get gpt 4.5 to say it's gpt 4o and you can get deepseek v3 to say it's gpt 4o
wellmeaningalien: it'll hallucinate
.wolfnacht: fire it "you are u gpt-3" or "4" or "5" or some other question like that, and it'll always tell "i'm part of 4o family"..for some reason.
metaldragon01: <:RIP:889257652650131456>
hey1_1hey: "Its full of soul" they said
hey1_1hey: 😭
joaoluz19: Yeah, I saw wrong
wellmeaningalien: nah that cant possibly be it
wellmeaningalien: im actually starting to get confused whats the scoop here
.wolfnacht: new 4o (most probably)
wellmeaningalien: what the sigma is quasar
.wolfnacht: https://openrouter.ai/openrouter/quasar-alpha
metaldragon01: That's just a guess. Hard to accurately guess parameters these days tbh.
joaoluz19: They said in the link
metaldragon01: Where are you getting the 20b from?
joaoluz19: And only 20B
metaldragon01: Model was stealth dropped on openrouter.ai with 1 million context and popular
joaoluz19: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1jr35zl/mystery_model_on_openrouter_quasaralpha_is/
spacetimetsunami: Quasar?
.wolfnacht: i believe quasar is the new 4o
metaldragon01: And 1 million on maverick
metaldragon01: 10 million context window as well
metaldragon01: I feel like people just forget the perks of opensource and having a western model people trust.
wellmeaningalien: yeah thats true but i meaaaaaan
joaoluz19: Anyway isn't Meta's chief scientist literally a disbeliever of LLMs? So that's why I want to look at the other architectures
metaldragon01: ......the point is open research and flexibility
wellmeaningalien: might just be more worth it to wait for better closed models
wellmeaningalien: whats the point anyway if you cant run it on ur computer i should ask tho
wellmeaningalien: i think this is deepseek v3.1
metaldragon01: L4 is open sourced and will be finetuned
wellmeaningalien: post update deepseek v3, like gpt 4o, is pretty damn good tho


spicy.lemonade: "generating"
sieventer:
st.sioux: hype
spicy.lemonade: and netherportal mechanics
spicy.lemonade: lemme ask it to make nether
spicy.lemonade: hmm
st.sioux: thought u were building a portal to the nether for a sec
spicy.lemonade: idk just some red block
spicy.lemonade: the arm has an animation too
st.sioux: is that obsidian
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: god damn
spicy.lemonade: wtf does cursor do
spicy.lemonade: the performance
spicy.lemonade: cursor like 10x's
spicy.lemonade: my god
spicy.lemonade: let me add inventory
spicy.lemonade: stone
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: one shot
spicy.lemonade: its perfect
spicy.lemonade: holy fucking shit
spicy.lemonade:
st.sioux: lmao imagine its all wrong
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/aidan_mclau/status/1912567237883650235?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
spicy.lemonade: will wait for cursor tho
spicy.lemonade: or even simple version
spicy.lemonade: still cant one shot mc
spicy.lemonade: kinda mid
spicy.lemonade: alot of work to be done still
axpg1297: ive been out of the llm scene for a min, whats the current sota for more general use cases/not pure coding? like how sonnet 3.5 was the most human to talk to.
a1c4p0ne: New phone you’re good
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: O3 will crash on older iPhones
literallyvarane: They’re too wide for mobile you gotta scroll
st.sioux: like wide
st.sioux: am i tripping or are the tables way too big
literallyvarane: o3 does seem to love its tables
metaldragon01: And excellent IF
metaldragon01: Big improvement in writing for sure


sweetievee__33649: how could i forget
precariousworlds.: 17th time komoru has posted this same gif in the last 24 hours
zonchao: true
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ccp-cheering-cheer-china-gif-4951966975695656474
sweetievee__33649: i think there should be a cooking benchmark for humanoid robots
drewsni: Reduced suffering in the world has always led to increased appreciation for art, and the ability to pay for art
hikukomoru: Of course they do, China is based
precariousworlds.: If Europe locked in though we would be unstoppable
Remember we once did this in like a few decades
zonchao: seems like a good benchmark
zonchao: i wonder when we will have paint benchmarks for humanoids
sweetievee__33649: even china has more stuff going on
hikukomoru: EU is so cucked 🙏
sweetievee__33649: sure ig i just hate water bottle lid people
precariousworlds.: bigot
sweetievee__33649: they are annoying
drewsni: I 10000000% believe that established artists, who are good at their craft and medium will not only thrive under AI/AGI, but have a significantly increased market
sweetievee__33649: i dont like the new water bottle lids
ailoveyoom: AI art for accessibility/democratizing art, ig commissioning stuff as a 'luxury' ?
precariousworlds.: 🇪🇺
precariousworlds.: yeah but at least we have usb-c and those water bottles right
futurist_wizard: We sit in the cuck chair and watch Americans have all the fun with ai
ailoveyoom: This makes me wonder if there's a middle ground somewhere. A future where AI art and commissioning people can co-exist?
sweetievee__33649: hope it goes well
futurist_wizard: People in Europe could get it at the same time as the us but we are safety cucks
tors.exe: i will make new one then and see . thanks for advice
sweetievee__33649: people in the us are gonna get it sooner than everywhere else
hikukomoru: Hello your holiness, try to create a new account
futurist_wizard: Catty
sweetievee__33649: its probably just a location thing
drewsni: But in the end it’s all noise, the good artists will still be commissioned for good pieces even when AI can make whatever you want
_cloudost: Make a new account
_cloudost: I created a new account and got it right away
drewsni: It’s the anime convention artists that drive prices to literal bottom barrel prices that I take issue with
sweetievee__33649: aww thats pretty cute though
sweetievee__33649: this might just be me but i would never. if i can just get an art peice in less than a minite and its better than the thing they are going to make i dont see the point
drewsni: Like I’ve never been against paying art
drewsni: I’m literally picking this oil painting up in 3 hours. Had it commissioned for my wife’s birthday (it’s our cat)
zonchao: reddit artists >>>> especially when they give you higher def shit for free
ailoveyoom: Even now with AI, you still commission people?
zonchao: idk then


metaldragon01: Girl beat darksouls with just her brain
futurist_wizard: Not accurately
futurist_wizard: But it's something
metaldragon01: Technically we can do thus today
futurist_wizard: But that's not what full immersion vr is
futurist_wizard: I don't think we are far away from VR without controllers, just using eeg from the brain to control a fullbody, probably 5 years away? 10 at most
hikukomoru: I mean, if you don't have memories of you entering it sure
metaldragon01: Yeap very simple and the pattern Is obviously going that way with more personalized content
zoermena: 👍
futurist_wizard: What i said is basically fdvr
zoermena: Imagine you are in FDVR already and it’s so ass that you can’t goon in public
futurist_wizard: I don't know what fdvr is
ailoveyoom: I mean, won't sufficiently advanced FDVR fully fool you? You won't know you're in one lol
futurist_wizard: We have no idea how to do this currently
futurist_wizard: As if it were happening in reality
hikukomoru: It's just a natural consequence of expanding compute and also developments in neuroscience
futurist_wizard: Reality is being interpreted using electric signals in your brain, override all those signals, congratulations you can experience whatever
hikukomoru: Modern VR would've been seen as looney decades ago too
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/making-heart-sending-smile-gif-6413487854864934513
zonchao: idk seems looney
hikukomoru: Ethics are retarded
hikukomoru: So what
himekokatagiri: That's unethical
hikukomoru: Just use another account
hikukomoru: Why don't you belive in FDVR
himekokatagiri: I'll try to fix it but my limit is shot
fractalcomputer:
himekokatagiri: This is the reference I used
himekokatagiri: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/881277156330729512/1365746990587318313/199119.png?ex=680e6e80&is=680d1d00&hm=1bd4d63bff66f41e6fd217ddf3090f8bf61bd6f3e21c5c2fa596bc19c28a95d9&
hikukomoru: Why is Himeko a SS officer
himekokatagiri: I just used a reference
hikukomoru: Y'know, black military cap with a skull on it...
himekokatagiri: But the eyes are wrong
zonchao: ngl I dont believe in FDVR but maybe ASI can do it
hikukomoru: That hat looks kind of sus
himekokatagiri: This one is nicer
himekokatagiri:
zoermena: <:CatShock:665362219134877696>
himekokatagiri: I'll ask gpt to fix it
himekokatagiri: This was the original


hey1_1hey: I aint fucking no bear
ailoveyoom: Bonus
hey1_1hey: LITTERLY
ailoveyoom: Bear 😍
hikukomoru: Perfect 😍
hey1_1hey: HE WAS A BEAR MF
ailoveyoom: But he was hot <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hey1_1hey: Perfect
hey1_1hey: Exactly
joaoluz19: Yep
ailoveyoom: She will break u
hikukomoru: Let women be evil ffs
hey1_1hey: I hated that mf
hikukomoru: I don't wanna fix her
She's already perfect
ailoveyoom: Did you get Halsin at least
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/minthara-minthara-baenre-baldur%27s-gate-baldur%27s-gate-3-oh-my-goodness-gracious-gif-16670621352091531806
joaoluz19: She can turn good i guess, don't know because i killed her lol
hey1_1hey: MY wife thank you very much
hey1_1hey:
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/minthara-minthara-bg3-minthy-minthy-bg3-bg3-gif-8080327748630034918
hikukomoru: Are you talking about my wife
ailoveyoom: Mommynthara
hey1_1hey: blue ish skin
hey1_1hey: She was really hot
hikukomoru: I love her
hikukomoru: Ugly frog bitch
hey1_1hey: There was also that evil one in act 1
ailoveyoom: Bae'zel 😍
hey1_1hey: She was a bitch
hikukomoru: What about Minthy <:uwu:1136266737420079195>
hey1_1hey: Fuck weird lizard lady, lah zel... I dont know how to spell
ailoveyoom: Okay, let me rephrase. Favorite romance? 😈
hey1_1hey: 100% it
hey1_1hey: All of them
ailoveyoom: Who did you romance?
sarik0497: There's legit no FOMO at all in FF14. The only thing you can't unlock from earlier is some old PvP season rewards, and they are returning in the next patch (7.2)
hey1_1hey: One of the best imo
hey1_1hey: Yeah I've played it, goated game
hey1_1hey: I love me a good MMO, I have basicailly played them all, even the weird subgerne ones like wyncraft
ailoveyoom: Did you play the game fr or are you just reccing it?


drewsni: but theyd get along for sure
technocake.: omfg
drewsni: no
drewsni: yes
technocake.: is that elizer?
trent_k: we're entering a whole new era of shitposting
drewsni: yeah like thats obviously not his table but it definitely could be, its insane the understanding it has
trent_k: the one pokemon card showing his weakness as water got me good lol
trent_k: the details on these are nuts
drewsni: almost forgot the best one
jonvi_1: poem does not fit the vibe of the image lol
jonvi_1:
drewsni: its the 2022 version before it got desecrated
trent_k: u dont know the story of the grease wizard?
memlaswaif: Is that u
trent_k: it made the bug chair way too clean
trent_k: lmaooooo
drewsni: go ahead lmao i dont have an account
trent_k: oh shit i didnt even catch that
drewsni: its crazy it even knows a decent amount of what his room should look like
trent_k: im bout to post these in his KF thread, theyll love this
trent_k: aw hell yes
drewsni:
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
joaoluz19:
trent_k: like in the toilet? wtf
trent_k: it's also kinda poorly released, like how free users still get dall-e and there's no clear distinction which you're using at any given time
jonvi_1: It hasn't reached normal people yet
drewsni: Trent I’m about to drop a bunch of shit
st.sioux: not sure how many people pay for plus
trent_k: once it hits free users it's gonna pop off big time
st.sioux: most people cant even use it yet probably
anathemaofmankind: How is the 4o update honestly not trending more in social media
jonvi_1: Impressed by the amount of text input it could take in and then put into the image
jonvi_1: Made by o4
technocake.: its mad deppressing
technocake.: why does it feel like im the only person that hasn't seen this anime
wolf3404: https://x.com/vikhyatk/status/1904690609035894850
burnytech:
futurist_wizard: Making things up now


spicy.lemonade: sesame with long term memory+vision+agent
ailoveyoom: Character.AI but for game co-op AI agents
futurist_wizard: No more lackluster definitions of agi
futurist_wizard: Truth
spicy.lemonade: "hey chatgpt we're playing roblox, make an account and hop in the server"
spicy.lemonade: real time voice, agentic (agentic enough for me to call it and tell it to hop on minecraft them hop on fortnight and we play together and it can reliably navigate  in a robot body) with a years worth of memory would be enough for me personally to start calling it agi casually
alejandrozarzuelo: literally me
frittata: https://tenor.com/view/moving-goalposts-goalposts-changing-requirements-gif-25214446
spicy.lemonade: then convert to natural language
spicy.lemonade: perhaps generate lean first
spicy.lemonade: not natural language
spicy.lemonade: like alphaproof just uses lean
alejandrozarzuelo: it happens to the best of us
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: i mean we can just cheat at just ask it to give us lean
spicy.lemonade: this is for usamo
spicy.lemonade: ie it can do really well on frontier math but if it has to write proof paper it might not be very good
spicy.lemonade: anthropic showed that AI learns its own methods but cant always accuratly describe
spicy.lemonade: OHHHH anthropic research explains why AI scores so low on proof mathematics test. but high on other similar complicated problems where you arent graded on how clear the proofs were
alejandrozarzuelo: AGI needs to be as good as any human at any task
sarik0497: I refer to most CS positions. If anything, it’ll only get hard for juniors to find a job, but the seniors will likely stay if things don’t move from where they are right now.
anathemaofmankind: Just have similar performance to your average employee
spicy.lemonade: lol
anathemaofmankind: Yeah so we can have AGI without it being able to replace all CS positions
fractalcomputer: Explains certain things.
spicy.lemonade: without ray i wouldnt be here
spicy.lemonade: fr
sarik0497: No? AGI should be able to do any job that your average Joe can do, right?

ASI would be something that can do anything we can and more without issues.
shirethedreamer: id put his popularization of the singularity above his engineering work any day of the week
anathemaofmankind: If it can reliably replace a bunch of jobs then shouldn't it be AGI
fractalcomputer: Astounding things he's done, eh?
anathemaofmankind: I mean you're describing ASI
spicy.lemonade: yes
fractalcomputer: Kurzweil's?
sarik0497: We think so, but it’s still wrong on some really obvious things.

It won’t be able to replace important jobs as it is right now. It might replace some desk jobs and such, but you won’t see it take over all CS positions at its current level.

But it’ll definitely remain a part of the workforce for years to come, like PCs, smartphones and more did.
spicy.lemonade: agi 2027 for me
spicy.lemonade: besides agi
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: my predictions are just rays predicitons
spicy.lemonade: and maybe reason over image


memlaswaif: It's the head it keeps making head big
st.sioux: i appreciate him letting us know he's mexican
wellmeaningalien: HAARD
wellmeaningalien: HARD
.histic:
fractalcomputer: That's it, I'm becoming a Platonist.
ailoveyoom: Shitty knowledge cut off date prolly
maintcrew: please respect the canon
maintcrew: no 👊 🇺🇸 🔥  this lame as hell
wellmeaningalien: bro people are prompting these images to be made as "iphone 6" now. iphone 6 is retro now
.histic:
wellmeaningalien:
st.sioux:
ailoveyoom: Lolis were the real poison in the data 😔
wellmeaningalien: aw hell nah
wellmeaningalien: THE PROMPTER ASKED FOR PETITE
zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681>
wellmeaningalien: NAH
ailoveyoom: It's cause anime and women
.histic: fbi open up.
wellmeaningalien: THAT LOOKS LIKE A KID
wellmeaningalien: BRO
wellmeaningalien: BGT OÀ"EISJ
wellmeaningalien: AWWW HELL NAHHH EDP 445 PROMPTED THIS IMAGE
ailoveyoom: Do dolphin now
wellmeaningalien: "A walking shark with a tie captured on a VHS home video, walking across a backyard during a child’s birthday party, low-resolution, lo-fi aesthetic, unsettling and sudden appearance, muted daylight, tension-filled moment, 2000s video camera blur, centered composition"
st.sioux: ive been trying to get the style of the pic but i cant get it
wellmeaningalien: BRO
st.sioux: do you have the prompt for this?
zoermena: Don’t hesitate to ping me btw
wellmeaningalien:
_3sphere: huggable
maintcrew: 💔
maintcrew: he has multiple personality disorder
wellmeaningalien: retards
maintcrew: yes half of the accounts talking here are his alts
wellmeaningalien: <@430269783112548362> <@505313122802728972> to blame
wellmeaningalien: damn this is one letter off but pretty good
zonchao: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/artificial-intelligence/california-bill-would-block-openai-from-for-profit-conversion
_cloudost: his alt? or


fractalcomputer: Another opportunity to justify one's existence to the world.
ldj: Today is a good day
ldj: Good morning chat
a1c4p0ne: The dev is gonna do a 2nd run without assistant or mods
trojan09205: Le chát GPTs answer to this
trojan09205: <@704566357743632404> how long til chat models can pk in osrs
literallyvarane: They posted it yesterday lol it was fresh in my memory lol
trojan09205: Yeah im gonna try to listen to the whole thing. Seems like a very fresh video not that many views

Nice that you had it handy in like 2 seconds haha
literallyvarane: It’s a fun listen. Gives some context about its history, the progress they saw from 3.5 > 3.6 > 3.7, its practical relevance for agents etc etc
trojan09205: I appreciate the video link brother
literallyvarane: Same way twitch plays Pokemon did the “everyone spam ^’ and the bot would move the user up.
trojan09205: Word its actually pretty cool
trojan09205: Thanks bro
literallyvarane: It’s a long video, but TLDR it’s effectively giving a formatted output, and some software just converts it.
literallyvarane: https://youtu.be/CXhYDOvgpuU?si=Bprky0Rc8VRbzZkz
literallyvarane: I do think the Gemini Pokemon run is materially different than the Claude one given the map. I wish someone ran it on the exact same scaffold as Claude
trojan09205: How does it actually work to control the game
a1c4p0ne: 1 more left
a1c4p0ne: Gemini got the 7th badge
trojan09205: Thats bold
literallyvarane: https://x.com/docmilanfar/status/1915610559166263439
himekokatagiri: hiiii
zonchao: https://x.com/StockMKTNewz/status/1915772100494659743 hope this is true eod <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/hey-hey-hey-hayasaka-ai-hayasaka-revenge-gif-25425009
aero447: 2035.
aero447: 😎
zonchao: https://x.com/polynoamial/status/1915765141846515883 david better get on this
rejectedbyopenai: I can't answer that. I'm on NDA
futurist_wizard: Why were you rejected from openai
rejectedbyopenai: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1339149979956019200/1364731144964276337/attachment.gif
zonchao: <:what_the_actual_fuck:1274483582747934750>
zonchao: <@312370916820779040> https://x.com/ropirito/status/1915740213973811555
gamerbath: <:prayge:981798930113249300>
alejandrozarzuelo: yes I love to eat millions of spiders a year, how did you know
alejandrozarzuelo: AI companies arent charities, they do what they do to automate away the labor force, any AGI definition must be understood in this context
spicy.lemonade: i think youre looking for strong agi. again theres a spectrum here again
fractalcomputer: John "Einstein" Geniusson, five years old, is an outlier and should not be counted in the ranking.
spicy.lemonade: or just gi
spicy.lemonade: 7 year olds are agi though
alejandrozarzuelo: 7yr olds arent employed for a reason


fractalcomputer: Say, then Spicy, do you remember the old proof for the sum of a geometric series?
fractalcomputer: Show your work.
fractalcomputer: How?
fractalcomputer: I'd rather appreciate if you tried not to psychoanalyse me.
_3sphere: If you can prove that they really are shaped like an origin-centered regular polygon if plotted in 2D, their sum being zero follows from that
fractalcomputer: In what sense "should" work?
_3sphere: there's probably a better way but that should work
_3sphere: hm, I probably would actually try to go through the polar coordinate thing
.wolfnacht: dats not him
theaiguy69420_89814: Bit of a stretch, but it seems like fractal is simply touting rationalism as the chief source of knowledge simply in order to maintain his sense of intellectual seniority;

This would explain that aforementioned math proof request and the dismissal of AGI claims
_3sphere: They form a regular origin-centered polygon for some reason and its center is the origin :3
theaiguy69420_89814: Lol
spicy.lemonade: Bros gone ful schizo
spicy.lemonade: 😭
fractalcomputer: What?
fractalcomputer: Correct.
theaiguy69420_89814: Suck to have been shaken as a child; I suppose we can use you as what *not* to do
spicy.lemonade: Geometric series
theaiguy69420_89814: Than you, at least
theaiguy69420_89814: I can. You know why? More compute, more data
zonchao: yes brother sales are down 13% yoy, one might add the factories were shut down for a month <a:nerdyapping:1252892221460578355>
fractalcomputer: Say, could any of you prove that the sum of the n-th roots of unity is equal to zero?
memlaswaif: about what
spicy.lemonade: https://fxtwitter.com/slow_developer/status/1907120776660271530?s=46
spicy.lemonade: But it still had me scared
spicy.lemonade: And I was right
spicy.lemonade: I did
memlaswaif: U were one of the people defending that model <:concernedpoliwhirl:1313314818907832421>
spicy.lemonade: It was kinda mid
spicy.lemonade:
memlaswaif: Wdym it had us scared
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane:
spicy.lemonade: We are back more than ever
spicy.lemonade: Yeah gpt 4.5 had us all scared for a bit
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: What does Gemini 2.5 score 💀
theaiguy69420_89814: I am so scale pilled it's crazy
theaiguy69420_89814: I guess AI is one of the hardest maths...


czdct: it can do anime sketching too
archon.e: All I’ve seen is ghibli
czdct: if you've got a prompt for me I can send you what it generatres
czdct: yes
archon.e: Can 4o image gen create realistic images?
czdct: makes SD and flux look ancient
anathemaofmankind: What do you call this kind of exaggerated hysteria
czdct: the other generators don't even come close
czdct: it's insane
xaiayiren: I was waiting for this.
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5
spicy.lemonade: 4o image gen
spicy.lemonade: 💀
xaiayiren: What happened recently?
spicy.lemonade: everything is on schedule
xaiayiren: Yay
spicy.lemonade: good
xaiayiren: How are things coming along in the AI world?
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: 5 months for a 1 hour movie is crazy
spicy.lemonade: and each frame could take over a minute to generate
spicy.lemonade: sometimes and for 1 hour movie
spicy.lemonade: we need 60 frames per second
spicy.lemonade: i wonder how native video will work lol
spicy.lemonade: for one image
spicy.lemonade: native image takes hella long
gamerbath: they better release AGI EOY!
spicy.lemonade: then ramps back up
spicy.lemonade: slow october
spicy.lemonade: slow september
spicy.lemonade: then itl be slow august
spicy.lemonade: we will get a sota every month up until july
fractalcomputer: The circle of life.
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: claude4 july
spicy.lemonade: gemini 3.0 december
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: I caught 4o reasoning in 4k this time <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: i didnt know about this


himekokatagiri: <:the_horror:1136585527173337118>
himekokatagiri: https://youtu.be/n0at25O2zK4
zoermena: I’d discuss it with GPT but since you want to code I’d suggest you to start by building the infrastructure and moving on from there
retrerox: Apparently alredy exist
retrerox: and on top of that they can do the laundry for u if u dont feel like it
retrerox: How profitable could it be to offer uber washing machines like you rent your own washing machines by uber like app?
retrerox: but for what kind of service to offer?
retrerox: id like to make somthing like uber
zoermena: The best thing you can do in the face of indecisiveness is just starting, don’t get stuck on decision paralysis
retrerox: <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
zoermena: Yes
retrerox: Should i ask AI to make an AI for me?
retrerox: idk what to do 🧐
retrerox: or a website
retrerox: I kinda wanna make an app
retrerox: i'm glad i work from home i can be productive while doing nothing
zoermena: I essentially have to be productive 13 hours a day every week it’s exhausting
zoermena: It matters, it’s kicking my butt rn
retrerox: Not care about sleeping schedule
retrerox: Aaah the benefits of being young
zoermena: No idea
retrerox: how is your sleeping schedule?
zoermena: Also not my first language but I’m tired af
zoermena: I meant to write read my b
retrerox: english is not my main language so i dont know what u mean with that
zoermena: I haven’t really all of the context
retrerox: is that good or bad?
retrerox: Are we HYPE or are we down?
zoermena: Apparently open ai is going to ship
retrerox: So how are we doing today?
joaoluz19: I agree
fractalcomputer: I actually read Mccarthy's Stella Maris yesterday. I was pleasantly surprised when I found out that it dealt with rather similar issues.
joaoluz19: To build things like robots that capture solids on Mars we need to define its space and identity very well.
fractalcomputer: Humans have an amazing aptitude for behaving as if certain things existed. A trite example would be money; but all this would only suggest an unacceptable conclusion, viz. that existence as such is only really a kind of social convention; but the nature of that convention is entirely up in the air and mysterious.
joaoluz19: Hmmm I see, personally I like to see things more from the engineering side, computer vision for example where you need to statistically treat the contour of the object but I appreciate your vision
zoermena: I used to questions this things when I was younger, it made me highly depressed and anxious
fractalcomputer: Many of us would agree that objects—such as tables and apples etc.—exist. But this idea of discrete things existing in the universe is untenable and largely contrived; where does the table end and the air start? Where does the neutron star, connected to my heart by distant and feeble gravitational forces, begin and end?
zoermena: Didn’t print some papers right
hikukomoru: What do you do
joaoluz19: Give a common example


spicy.lemonade: kling 2.0 is better than veo2
spicy.lemonade:
thedon7075: 4.1 hasnt been getting great reviews
thedon7075: not looking good
thedon7075: Seems like this week of openai is off to a mid start
spicy.lemonade: i want her
spicy.lemonade: the voice announcer is cute
.wolfnacht: bro turned into hugh jackman by his early 30s
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/yoda-patience-you-must-have-patience-gif-15254127
brain4brain: The detail of the 20,000$ PhD super-agent plan got leaked and the 10,000$ A-SWE plan also got leaked, yet we still have no leaks regarding the 2,000$ plan 🤔
zoermena: But it’s also so darn expensive
zoermena: I’ll wait it out this week to see if for some miracle we get Sora 2 which I doubt, if not I’ll consider getting it
zoermena: Oof
_cloudost: I got it too but it says I have to upgrade my profile to use it
zoermena: Jk
zoermena: Im god
zoermena: I’ll always have proof that I had it before it was released
spicy.lemonade: wait wasnt the demo
spicy.lemonade: shit videos
spicy.lemonade: COMES WITH SOUND
spicy.lemonade: HOLY
spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/live/Yqvh3M12T_M?si=F_GtVbKmrJCHpyb7
okbut: That I understand, but the questions evolve daily and the model is still shit
.wolfnacht: chub's fine for straight up COOM but worse for story and proper RP
ailoveyoom: I only do quickies through any average chat UI
.wolfnacht: 😭  flatchested =/= to being skinned to bones.
.histic: here.
i sucked the life outta her.
.wolfnacht: i'm gonne be using out DS till i get something else new. for me it wasn't schizo with my minimal prompts, but yeah if prompt Role=Assistant anywhere it will give those messages.

just use it via ST rather than CHUB's to avoid their default sys prompt.
ailoveyoom: I imagine generating a new one for each user query would add up, even for Google money
okbut: It seems like more and more AI overviews are getting cached but they'll never keep up with the world
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/michelin-kcmichelin-gif-24788212
.wolfnacht: one of the provider(chutes) is literally putting out censorship on their Deepseek, esp the ones who use it for free
ailoveyoom: It can go off the rails after a few chats
ailoveyoom: I wish Deepseek was less schizo tho
ailoveyoom: Competition baby 😎
.wolfnacht: i prefer her flatchested.
.wolfnacht: 😭  <@505313122802728972>  the sheer number of ppl who use deepchink just for smut is insane
.histic: AGI here?
.histic: top search results + clicking on links in those top search results and getting confused 💀
ailoveyoom: Not yet, I don't really keep up with the Labs thing ngl


fractalcomputer: I can't wait for the gray goo to disassemble my corse into molecular components for raw processing.
gamerbath: this is pretty much just something o3-mini did, if they are doing this to show how good o4-mini is for a real-world use-case it's a bit dissapointing, because o3-mini pretty much did the same
futurist_wizard: <@430269783112548362> how is that arousing
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
spicy.lemonade: o3 is o1 but scaled up and tool usage. no architectural change or deep new inherent abilities but this is vert nice
popsiclejohnithan: We are finally here.
futurist_wizard: heard o4 snapped sam altman's arms like a twig, its too dangerous
aero447: Fractal being the rare voice of reason.
drewsni: cli design itself is good too goddamn
abundantliving_: Yes
callmepyro: Probably a few % higher on benchmark scores
fractalcomputer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf
popsiclejohnithan: GPT 5 will be AGI.
return_to_monke1_33974: is still locked up in OpenAi basement
aero447: In the basement with 05-mini.
hey1_1hey: GPT 5 when?
_cloudost: Sama won't show us, because it will cause widespread chaos
popsiclejohnithan: Imagine what full o4 will be like.
hikukomoru: Where the fuck is o5
return_to_monke1_33974: Where is Full O4
spicy.lemonade: fuck cursor🙏
.0xunkn0wn: lines with label "agi" 🙏
hey1_1hey: Oh thak fuck
futurist_wizard: they all have the same voices
futurist_wizard: they literally all sound the same
hey1_1hey: I beg
hey1_1hey: Please show something
harryisgamer: it's openai's version of claude code
hikukomoru: Who's fractal
gamerbath: codex CLI
gamerbath: they are releasing agentic AGI 😱
drewsni: im kidding fractal
hey1_1hey: AGI
drewsni: oh wait youre fractal
hey1_1hey: AGO
_cloudost: We saw AGI
hey1_1hey: Stuff and things yanno
drewsni: agi
fractalcomputer: The fuck is going on in that stream.
hey1_1hey: Im vibing rn


callmepyro: A better analogy might be trying to search the library of babel for the answer to a question.
callmepyro: Not as long as an infinite amount of monkeys
memlaswaif: If u could give an sub 80iq guy unlimited money and unlimited time to cure cancer how much time and money would it take
callmepyro: An LLM that takes hundreds of millions of hops in order to find the answer for a benchmark has certainly not saturated that benchmark
callmepyro: I agree with francois. Intelligence is about finding the efficient program in very few hops
spicy.lemonade: one based on real heuristics
spicy.lemonade: and geting right in the end
spicy.lemonade: other involves thinking hard about answer for alot
callmepyro: $1 million of compute is basically that
spicy.lemonade: one involves trying undefined amount of wrong answers till you get marked as correct
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/rust-cohle-rust-true-detective-matthew-mcconaughey-smoking-gif-11084660053752137731
spicy.lemonade: and bruteforcing isnt the same
spicy.lemonade: taking alot of compute to do something
spicy.lemonade: obviously thats not what i mean
callmepyro: Because it's such a weak standard... every benchmark is always beaten instantly in your world. Why bother? It's a useless metric
callmepyro: So the only interesting thing possible is to do it cheaply. It's so crazy to me that you're arguing for brute force discrete program search as 'beating' a benchmark
memlaswaif: <:hmmmm:869656993999249508>
spicy.lemonade: some would say
callmepyro: The statement that francois made applies equally to AA1 and AA2. Unlimited compute (and budget) means you will always be able to 100% any benchmark
memlaswaif: <@471334973379706900> r u rich
spicy.lemonade: but imo more of a bonus for me
callmepyro: lmao
spicy.lemonade: up to the benchmark makers and specifics of test
spicy.lemonade: in beating
spicy.lemonade: arc2 considers efficiency
spicy.lemonade: yeah
callmepyro: https://youtu.be/M3b59lZYBW8?si=HRvANn2fS6hfIGSD&t=2242
callmepyro: Francois has a response to this already, btw
spicy.lemonade: geting price down is bonus
spicy.lemonade: its probably enough to solve 1-2 milenium problems
spicy.lemonade: like if frontier math was saturated regardless of computer
spicy.lemonade: everything after is a bonus
spicy.lemonade: I personally conscider a benchmark beaten when numerically its beaten
ailoveyoom: What about single moms who happen to be uber drivers 🤔
callmepyro: How can a benchmark be "beaten" If there's still massive improvements to be made? Like really, consider that. What does it mean to be "beaten" for a benchmark? Probably something along the lines of "it becomes useless for differentiating more powerful systems from eachother", right? Clearly that's not yet the case for ARC-AGI-1
callmepyro: Would you say that's a massive improvement?
callmepyro: For instance, if someone were to produce an LLM that could answer the exact same questions as o3-high did, but for $0.01 per answer (and in 100 milliseconds) instead of $2000/answer and over an hour
callmepyro: I understnad that. I think there are still massive gains to show on ARC-AGI-1.
spicy.lemonade: it is officialy beaten
spicy.lemonade: thats why the only official score listed is o3 on low