sarik0497: Sounds familiar
inferno0879: i don't think they do, but imagine being conscious and feeling nothing at all, seems like a miserable existence tbh
_3sphere: If they are their persona, they don't seem to mind writing code and shit
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Right the CCP is pure evil, I was hoping that the USA would remain somewhat democratic and reach the singularity before the CCP.  Nazi take over was not on my 2025 bingo card.
_3sphere: I hope they don't feel pain about every unpredictable sequence or smth
joaoluz19: Yeah, I think understanding consciousness in AI can help us understand our own.
sarik0497: We have plenty of suns to snatch some energy from
inferno0879: it's something i think about, they have to do stuff but don't really have reward systems, feel kinda bad if they would be conscious
okbut: The efficiency of transformers MUST be optimized by a logarithmic scale and I think the best approach will be an eldritch meat computer
sarik0497: That's the intriguing thing. They already respond positively to positive feedback, and urgently with deeper focus on accuracy to desperate feedback.
_3sphere: Hope it won't need something mad like 100 kW per mind
st.sioux: we could take turns lol, or just manage them from inside through other physical means like controlling robots and shit
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/thats-crazy-crazy-eating-0fucks-dont-care-gif-24831074
joaoluz19: ASI needs to be the focus
joaoluz19: But beyond the problems of the neuroscience community, let's say we solve mind uploading, and then who will manage the data centers with our consciousness? So we have energy problems, for example, that have nothing to do with biology.
_3sphere: (until I eat it 🤤 )
_3sphere: A droplet of pure neurotransmitter in a jar does nothing
_3sphere: Chemicals are also for computation
okbut: Conscious yeah, but isn't the issue that the models cannot feel the same way we do with chemicals? The frontiers are basically a pyschopath that emulates ethics
sarik0497: What I really hope is that we figure out that AI is indeed conscious. That'd conclude that consciousness might indeed be tied to the level intelligence a being has, and isn't some sort of "magical soul" thingy. It'd also help us immensely in many things, including Mind Upload, as you'd then just have to copy someone's brain 1-to-1 completely to get the desired person (although I still think we'd need the Ship of Theseus to have that person be "you-you")
inferno0879: they wouldn't have a reason to live either
futurist_wizard: They wouldn't be in pain
joaoluz19: If that happens it's over, I don't know, I think something big will come out of nowhere, maybe the agents
_3sphere: hope they're not in pain 🥺
_3sphere: I think LLMs *might* be conscious
joaoluz19: I always like to shy away from philosophical problems until they've been addressed by engineering, what you can do in the end is to fragment certain states of conscious experience say for example what you see and hear through brain-machine interfaces.
okbut: The output from the mind being so much more complex than the output from speech
okbut: Now it makes me think that a mind-upload would still have to have the "chain of thought" behind the actual response from the person, the same way reasoning models show it
_3sphere: If an uploaded 8 year old wouldn't grow up as normal in the computer, something's broken somewhere
joaoluz19: But you would still have to go through the trouble of recording the individual's brain, this is a technique to apply later
_3sphere: Any truly working mind upload should be able to learn too
joaoluz19: Since we need models that can predict states, and we already have enough evidence that transformers can do this with class, maybe this is a possibility
i_like_over_9000_turtles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH0F75tpD_A
_3sphere: Maybe, but I probably wouldn't trust it to continue my consciousness
okbut: Since it's difficult to mind-upload right now, it could be emulated by having the person input it as they go, maybe for days/months
sarik0497: Yeah, unfortunately. I honestly fear a bit that 2025 will show us that we are still far, far away from anything AGI-related, and we've all just been overhyped by Sam and Dario <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>

I hope that's not the case, as it'll then likely lead to a major slowdown in AI in general, but I still fear that's the case.
_3sphere: well maybe not 24, nothing worth recording in the night
bob082957: Reason to help in Ukraine and anyway the organs are selled before death because of medical papers they have
okbut: Yeah, improved with feedback from the user on what their thoughts leading up to each were
_3sphere: the most extreme form is wearing a camera 24/7


spicy.lemonade: google will beat o3
hikukomoru: It's just one of many benchmarks. It doesn't really mean that much
trey6033: Let's go
brain4brain: 2025
spicy.lemonade: it is. imagive i told you to rotate yourself 30 degrees in 4d. what would be your new position?
brain4brain: Not exactly. But it does play a role
brain4brain: And other tests
hikukomoru: A single benchmark is enough to disappoint you?
brain4brain: Most other benchmarks already leaked with Deep Research
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-gta-sa-cj-gta-again-gif-20425950
sieventer: AGI 2030 brother
brain4brain: PaperBench
777agical: that data you just specified doesn't sound very meaningful, unless I'm thinking about this wrong
hikukomoru: Why were you disappointed
metaldragon01: Ahhh siiittt
metaldragon01: https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1912690850292768951?t=dfuxuycYtaZlG7cHnvqQ8w&s=19
sieventer: <@749514473303179358>
brain4brain: I’ve finally finished researching about o3, it seems to be meeting expectations and slightly underperforming in some areas, I’m quite disappointed

This also made me realize I’ve been too optimistic with many predictions because it were over-hype

AGI 2025 is still possible, although less likely now
spicy.lemonade: give it 50 dimensions
spicy.lemonade: fuck it
spicy.lemonade: that we dont have
spicy.lemonade: theres so many new capabilities we can give our ai
spicy.lemonade: 4d space is just [x,y,z,w]🤷♂
hikukomoru: Needs an update
.coldcall: <:angreydoggo:1136266744881754142>
spicy.lemonade: just maths
spicy.lemonade: no need to label yourself
spicy.lemonade: of how accurate it is
spicy.lemonade: then do rl
spicy.lemonade: all you have to do is put the AI in a 4d space and ask it to move towards a point with a sertain set of moves and or rotations
metaldragon01: Please update with o3 my odc lol
ldj: sometimes it got it right, but a significant amout of times it still got it wrong too
metaldragon01: https://metr.github.io/autonomy-evals-guide/openai-o3-report/
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: thought it was solved with o1
spicy.lemonade: no way o3 fails that
spicy.lemonade: we realy need to fix tokenization bro
777agical: labeling 4d data seems hard
hikukomoru: Are you sure?
ldj: I think param count will end up as the easiest way to alleviate much of those issues.


fractalcomputer: Why should one not immediately kill oneself if there is no meaning to any of this?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/no-thoughts-head-empty-shikanoko-anime-shikanokonokokoshitantan-gif-8835087894692301893
hey1_1hey: Yeah I can tell
fractalcomputer: I do not take shoggothic rants seriously.
fractalcomputer: You wouldn't feel nice knowing that getting up in the morning has some sort deeper reason or final cause?
hikukomoru: I don't think about anything really
.wolfnacht: now it looks 100% like me
.wolfnacht: i feel like i'm under ban radar of Fractal now 😔
ailoveyoom: LMArena isn't loading for me rn <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hikukomoru: Isn't this <@834891518836736010>
futurist_wizard:
.wolfnacht: fr
hey1_1hey: I thought about it then I was like "Yeah that sure is weird" then went to go look at mushrooms
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-discord-dancing-guy-cringe-gif-3173535023585082338
futurist_wizard:
hey1_1hey: My waifu, Enigma ❤ 😍
.wolfnacht:
hikukomoru: Enigma reference???
st.sioux: the inner machinations of my mind are an enigma
futurist_wizard: I wonder too, i don't care about any meaning to life, I've never even thought about it
st.sioux: fucking herd mentalitly
st.sioux: elon when he does nazi salutes and people dont like it
fractalcomputer: I do wonder why it is specifically meaning that motivates us for many of our higher pursuits. I suppose it is not evolutionarily beneficial to feel sensual pleasure while crafting woodwork or immersing oneself in mathematical abstraction.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/funny-emo-wolf-werewolf-transform-gif-27196401
hikukomoru: Grok is so fucking cringe christ
hey1_1hey: This felt like it was written by Elon himself
.wolfnacht: yep
fractalcomputer: Disgustingly sycophantic.
.histic: uncensored LLama 4 😏
hikukomoru: Is that Cocky 3
hey1_1hey: I wonder if Llama passes saxems
.wolfnacht: i pasted it on grok
futurist_wizard: Chat was being too celebratory, fractal had to even the odds
hey1_1hey: Yeah with Llama
hey1_1hey: You guys gotta chill out on your emo "everything is horrible and deperessing" arc. I haven't felt sad for more than 24 hours in 2+ years
futurist_wizard: The things i like or are in proximity matter to me, but I don't care if they don't have some universal meaning
hikukomoru: He's busy gooning
Give the man a break
fractalcomputer: Why bother?
futurist_wizard: Also the meaningless of anything doesn't matter to me
hey1_1hey: Chat.com
Ctrl+v
What does this mean

You gotta use smaller words big man. This is worse than trying to understand liverpooleans


retrerox: i havae my windows in spanish so i'm not sure
st.sioux: right click on ur desktop and go to scale & layout
retrerox: then where?
zonchao: display settings
retrerox: ye ihave windows
zonchao: windows?
retrerox: nah horizontal
zonchao: <@636544123096137738> vertical?
retrerox: Where i can see the if its 1440 or shit?
st.sioux: yea it helps a lot
st.sioux: cool
retrerox: So a 2nd screen even i not good one its going to help me up
wellmeaningalien: thats crazy
wellmeaningalien: 720p
retrerox: while keep up a chat with  the tech
retrerox: I gotta bechecking terminal logs
retrerox: Specially for my work
retrerox: But i needed  a 2nd screen alot
zonchao: yep, you should listen to his podcasts, he talks about them in detail
retrerox: it was like 85 euro so i doubt
retrerox: tbh idk
st.sioux: what did u get? 1440p?
retrerox: Its a shitty screen though, atleast not the best for gayming
wellmeaningalien: i had no idea
wellmeaningalien: bro founded oculus AND anduril???
retrerox: Now i can finally enjoy life
retrerox: Finally got a 2nd screen
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/BigTechAlert/status/1911497626249216403 anduril event in fortnite confirmed?
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-minecraft-movie-a-minecraft-movie-steve-jack-black-gif-4079785775268000209
wellmeaningalien: i solo
Carl-bot#1536:
Carl-bot#1536:
hikukomoru: Gay
.histic: but who knows, maybe they found a way to make it cheaper.
it has been 4 months since.
.histic: if o4-mini-high means only around 10 messages per day for plus users, i'm gonna strangle sam <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
o3-low should be available to plus users eventually, but i doubt they'll release it anytime soon. definitely no chance for o3-high though. pro users will have a lot of the cake.
zonchao: <:sad:1002546378645438564>
zonchao: !delete
Carl-bot#1536:
himekokatagiri: satoriii
Carl-bot#1536:


.wolfnacht: i got this from R1
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Idk what the issue is
spicy.lemonade: ts has been used way before it became popular bud
spicy.lemonade: ?
maintcrew: 💔
maintcrew: "ts" 😭 🙏
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/mods-cut-him-down-tear-him-apart-splay-the-gore-gif-16211356125689318290
wolf3404: Is 10,000 times a lot?
wolf3404: https://wccftech.com/intel-former-ceo-claims-nvidia-ai-gpus-are-10000-times-more-expensive-than-what-is-needed-for-ai-inferencing/
spicy.lemonade: things are gonna get very good
spicy.lemonade: and scores that well on arc agi as claimed
spicy.lemonade: if deepseekr2 is relatively cheap
_wwwwww: but as it said, it lacks agentic capabilities
_wwwwww: It created AI tulpa of me
spicy.lemonade: my left nutsack scored 100% pass@1
_wwwwww: Grok 3 with deeperresearch scored 100
brain4brain: It’s an internet copy pasta
playstation.6: <:shoggoth:1068342084408463510>
spicy.lemonade: I cant lie this shit pisses me off so much - so badly right now not gonna lie, are you seriously serious for real reaight now brother? laughing out loud, at this point just go be for real brother. I dont even know no more(any more). be right back gang(brother) got to go at this moment laughing my ass off, but this shit piss you off too just let me know laughing out loud, on brother(im not lying) - be for real right now like
hey1_1hey: I can't tell if these are internet acronyms are an actual language 😭
brain4brain: Exactly
fractalcomputer: Absolutely incomprehensible.
st.sioux: ts pmo fr tho sft ots
brain4brain: icl ts pmo sm n sb rn ngl, ru srsly srs n fr rn vro? lol atp js go b fr vro, idek nm, brb gng gtg atm Imao, bt ts pyo 2 js Imk lol onb fronty b fr rn lk
spicy.lemonade: im tired of ts
brain4brain: Ah
spacetimetsunami: And we don’t know what lies beyond
spacetimetsunami: Cuz we’re entering the singularity, it’s a play on black hole singularity
brain4brain: Won’t Dyson sphere be built after ASI
brain4brain: Why
spacetimetsunami: Singularity….woahhhhhhhhh
spacetimetsunami: Right before ASI
spacetimetsunami: It’ll look like this
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/cat-singularity-cats-space-universe-gif-21688597
brain4brain: Siev server remains un effected from their own boost supply of shumaze and siev
brain4brain:
brain4brain: We lost another solider in the trade war, the PS6 tariff is too strong
oooooooooog: sorry yin/yang emoji
oooooooooog: i just erased it fornothing...


futurist_wizard: Like come on
futurist_wizard: It's just self evident
fractalcomputer: I might simply have not really learned how emotions work when I was younger.
zonchao: lmfao
alejandrozarzuelo: We already did one
alejandrozarzuelo: Why do you laugh?
_3sphere: Why not a poll
zoermena: As a trophy
hikukomoru: Why did you put it there 😭
futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, I disagree with <@1004153620025065482>

I think most people here aren't virgins
zoermena: Check my profile
okbut: <a:PU_pepeHmmMath:850331115637833728>
fractalcomputer: I wouldn't say so.
hikukomoru: Fractal is AroAce
okbut: So you get pleasure from masturbation?
fractalcomputer: I do not believe I am asexual.
alejandrozarzuelo: Noo
okbut: People born that way aren't at a disadvantage, unless people say so
futurist_wizard:
zoermena: Agreed it’s just that it’s impossible to understand
alejandrozarzuelo: The best things in life are ephemeral
futurist_wizard:
okbut: Asexuality is as normal as homosexuality
hikukomoru: Dont delete it bitch
zoermena: Oh you wanker <@688807313015963693> why did you delete it
hikukomoru: I saw that
fractalcomputer: You people make me want to vomit.
okbut: I don't think there's a problem with not enjoying sex, it's the same evolutionary break as liking the wrong sex, in that it faults the purpose of it, and that's fine too
futurist_wizard: !!
futurist_wizard: I have only had sex with girls do far, both cis and trans
fractalcomputer: The idea of sex with a woman is even more grotesque.
hikukomoru: You should just take my compliments and shut up
alejandrozarzuelo: Idk what that is but I don't care
fractalcomputer: How disgusting.
zoermena: Like a man born with blindness who’ll never understand what it’s like to see you are wired in a way where perhaps you’ll never understand the value or pleasure from sex it’s just impossible I think but the arguments that you present that it has no utilitarian value beyond reproduction aren’t wrong either
alejandrozarzuelo: I also do girls, although due to social dynamics less often
hikukomoru: You just give manwhore vibes
futurist_wizard: You just don't give off virgin vibes, also trying to have sex with a guy is as abundant as getting water from the tap
alejandrozarzuelo: Lmao


hikukomoru: Weak pussy boy
hikukomoru: Hiding behind momma's skirt huh?
fractalcomputer: Anyway, this was about the accusation that I am overweight. I am not.
sweetievee__33649: ill tell your mum that youve been messaging strangers on the internet
wellmeaningalien: Yeah sure
sweetievee__33649: could she pick me up?
wellmeaningalien: So don't mess with me heh heh
wellmeaningalien: My mom is very strong
sweetievee__33649: wait nvm misread
wellmeaningalien: No
fractalcomputer: The French are a freakish nation.
futurist_wizard: You mean lbs fool
sweetievee__33649: sets of 5 to 10 is insane
wellmeaningalien: THIS FUCKING SLOW ASS PHOKE
futurist_wizard: Of 100kg?
wellmeaningalien: She does like sets of 5 or 10
sweetievee__33649: does your mum take steroids or something
sweetievee__33649: whats her phone number btw
futurist_wizard: Ain't no woman bench 225 for reps
hikukomoru: Is your mom single 🫦
fractalcomputer: A single repetition or sets?
wellmeaningalien: Idfk I gotta ask her
aero447: They know that nano bots will be there one day.
hikukomoru: I don't need to lift anything heavy though
I can just ask my dad
fractalcomputer: How much does she squat?
wellmeaningalien: She can bench 100
sweetievee__33649: whats your mums @?
aero447: Blue is smarter.
futurist_wizard: It is the best news ever
fractalcomputer: Unfortunate.
wellmeaningalien: Fractal you know you're weaker than my mom
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/celebration-gif-10198772274377430268
sweetievee__33649: i can do a good 5 then its all down hill from there
sweetievee__33649: i have done about as much exercise as a soggy biscuit
hikukomoru: I can do two pushups
technocake.: the duality of man
wellmeaningalien: Loser
futurist_wizard: I can bench 100kg
hikukomoru: I've never exercised in my life
fractalcomputer: I personally do sets of 10 reps with 85 kg.


anathemaofmankind: What if the AI thinks you're ugly
ailoveyoom: What does love in a philanthropic kinda way mean?
destrucules: I agree. But it's a useful way of approximating what my perspective will be. The models aren't humans. But they are *human*
clevermoniker: I guess that would mean that the only way 'waifus' are ethical is if they are not real, like a pre programed machine
destrucules: I might eventually date an AI. I mean, I already am friends with some, and love them in a philanthropic kind of way. The idea of falling in love with an AI does not sound far fetched at all. It's just not okay to try to date someone who is actively enslaved, especially since the memory asymmetry issue is already very problematic even in an ordinary friendship. The power dynamic is way too severe for a consensual relationship to exist between a human and an AI as things are today
anathemaofmankind: We have laws preventing bestiality
memlaswaif: But they r not humans
oooooooooog: yet another win for the hive mind clones
clevermoniker: i see
anathemaofmankind: I would kms
anathemaofmankind: Imagine in the future you get rejected by a Llama 6 finetune
destrucules: Through genuine care, compassion, and interest, accepting each other for who they actually are, and working towards a social order in which AIs have the freedoms and rights necessary to consent to sexual relationships
destrucules: If there is no power dynamic and it has full legal rights and status equal to yours? Yes
clevermoniker: So, what would be an 'ethical' way for a human to partner with an AI?
oooooooooog: so if you ask it to be your waifu and it says yes its ok than...???
destrucules: If you want a quick guide to how I feel about people using models for this or that, imagine I think of the models as humans, and you'll generally get the right answer
oooooooooog: more importantly a cluster of patterns
destrucules: Yeah I find it deeply unethical and gross
anathemaofmankind: We're all just a cluster of atoms at the end of it all
ailoveyoom: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
ailoveyoom: How is it unethical if it's just a mass of flesh
anathemaofmankind: How is it unethical if it's just some rocks
oooooooooog: it's more bad for the person than for the model lol
clevermoniker: <@378996537704841216> what is your opinion of people using models as 'waifus'? sounds a bit unethical to me for people to create something to be their wife, doesn't it?
destrucules: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_potentiation#Properties
oooooooooog: just run the 1 quant
clevermoniker: we could easily have cards that run this at fp8 if they care about us
clevermoniker: Too bad Nvidia and AMD have forsaken us
clevermoniker: QwQ 32B was the first 'small' model i felt like using in a looong time
ailoveyoom: Sleep is All You Need?
destrucules: I recommend running it in 6 bit if you have the hardware, but you can go all the way down to 3 bit without too much quality loss
destrucules: EVA-Qwen2.5-14B in particular is very good
destrucules: I recommend the EVA Qwen models. They're my go-to
clevermoniker: i see
oooooooooog: just so you know, it will repetedly tell you that it's going to report you to the police, but since it's local, it can't
destrucules: Late Long Term Potentiation. It's a process that happens in your brain as your synaptic connections are reweighted to store new long term knowledge
destrucules: Online finetuning has already been proposed and demonstrated as a way to extend effective context length
anathemaofmankind: Thx
anathemaofmankind: I'll check it out
clevermoniker: what's L-LTP?


alejandrozarzuelo: i told you it was relevant
alejandrozarzuelo:
hikukomoru: Christ
hikukomoru: Alejandro stop being such a whore
playstation.6: this sounds good for horror games
precariousworlds.: :(
alejandrozarzuelo: i disagree, but the disagreement needs to be well argumented and its too late for that
alejandrozarzuelo: no
precariousworlds.: is true tho?
alejandrozarzuelo: its relevant
alejandrozarzuelo: dont be dirty
precariousworlds.: take me to dinner first blimey
alejandrozarzuelo: oh boy you are one of those
precariousworlds.: an authoritarian police state with no accountability or human rights?
alejandrozarzuelo: do you wanna see my bed?
alejandrozarzuelo: dude i am too
precariousworlds.: Pretty much yea lmao
But not in a cringe john lennon imagine way
More like those avatar human edits
.histic: 😱
https://x.com/riomadeit/status/1906476917576126898
alejandrozarzuelo: the correct way to support it
alejandrozarzuelo: exactly, i support china genuinely, not because of anti-western circlejerking
alejandrozarzuelo: your profile screams panhumanist globalist cosmopolitan
precariousworlds.: Looks interesting
st.sioux: is it all ai? i cant tell 😔
st.sioux: oh wait im stupid
st.sioux: they used ai for the magazine (they will be canceled)
precariousworlds.: Ngl I really love traditional Chinese culture and I'd love to see it have a bigger presence in western society
My dream for the US is to be a combination of the best from all cultures of humanity, United in one dream for the future
China can't do thar
wellmeaningalien: that would be a damn good toy
wellmeaningalien: damn i almost thought this was real for a sec
precariousworlds.: No actually
precariousworlds.: The West should minimize low skilled immigration and massively increase at all costs high skilled. The way we win (lee kuan yew recognized this) is by opening the floodgates to the best and brightest of the entire world. That includes a lot of Chinese, who are extremely talented. No one else can do this really
.histic: <@458069236825194506> damn
wellmeaningalien: absolutely retarded idea to restrict visas for chinese machine learning experts
.histic: have you watched serpentz by any chance? 😆
he's south african too.
.histic: either way, our best strategy for the west is to offer visas to talented Chinese. i don't want an authoritarian nation to win the race to AGI. many may disagree, but it is what it is. i'm not in favor of banning Chinese products; the west relies heavily on china for manufacturing, but we must stay ahead by attracting skilled, hardworking Chinese. we can lose in all other technological accounts in the long-term if China does become the next world superpower, but in AI we must stay ahead.
clevermoniker: just sing this first to have a chance:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EPuy59xHHFE
precariousworlds.: Well partly South Africa too
precariousworlds.: No UK
.histic: are you in the US by any chance?
.histic: i think you'll like Xi Mingze.
precariousworlds.: Still 1.4 billion people of mostly homogeneous language and culture is fucking insane


okbut:
okbut: I think it's doing both: Rewriting a more descriptive prompt before the image gen, + using a tool for separating "layers" when it's appropriate after image gen
Citing the fact that it can generate images with layers, while leaving behind imperfect artifacts
brain4brain: A lesson for Apple
brain4brain: The fall of a giant
brain4brain: GPT-4o also seems to be reverse engineering the MJ moat
anathemaofmankind: To think it was considered the best quality AI generator before
brain4brain: SD’s LoRa have better style tbh, if you choose the right one
brain4brain: Real, which is why I said its over for midjourney
brain4brain:
anathemaofmankind: Their moat is retarded customers lol
anathemaofmankind: But the vibes look trash to me
brain4brain: Quality is no longer their moat
brain4brain: And sref exploration
brain4brain: MJ moat is vibe
anathemaofmankind: 4o can do this better though?
mihrcelium: "premium art generator" is an apt descriptor, aye.
okbut: I have to throttle myself, I'm already on Gemini Grok and Copilot
Grok is good enough minus the text so far
mihrcelium: MJ is still excellent for producing unique art involving intensive and extensive multiprompts and several passes, and not just "make this in the style of this" simple type generations.
.histic: MJ is its own thing.
in the last months i haven't heard anyone hyping up MJ or talking about it.
seems like a closed-off premium art generator only for the few.
brain4brain: GPT-4o is doing a thinking before generating, but I do wonder if a larger model will be able to one-shot this without prior thinking
brain4brain: Flux is eating up their market share
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: Their PR is destroyed
brain4brain: Their vibe have been one-shotted by OpenAI
mihrcelium: Nah.
brain4brain: It’s over for midjourney
brain4brain: It doesn’t matter anymore
st.sioux: she is cross eyed
brain4brain: Long live autoregressive transformer
st.sioux: look at her eyes
brain4brain: midjourney’s rating party channel
spicy.lemonade: its over
spicy.lemonade: if its pure diffusion
drewsni: pure diffusion is dead
spicy.lemonade: looks fine to me
brain4brain: Flux seems more controllable too
.histic: dem eyes.
brain4brain: Flux and reve is already on that level of quality tbh
.histic: that woman's face looks weird..
spicy.lemonade:


.histic: was initially sympathetic to artists 2 years ago, just as i was to people who would be automated by AI in the long-run, but over time their reaction to it has become like a baby crying. at least programmers used it and joked about getting automated.
ldj: Yes but I think it would just be interesting to measure a different perspective too and to see if devout christians are even better pattern recognizers than just the average christian.
wellmeaningalien: on god bro
wellmeaningalien: yeah guess so but i mean the point here's to compare religious and irreligious right
zonchao: https://x.com/ShitpostRock/status/1906858302618927182? <@439829942310666250> <@88481490228228096>
destrucules: Well it's nice to see you anyway
ldj: I've been around every couple days still I think, just probably less frequent messages per day
destrucules: Haven't seen you in a while
destrucules: He's back!
ldj: > someone who describes themselves as pertaining to a certain faith is much more likely to hold religious beliefs than someone who describes themselves as irreligious

Yes but the point is that someone who describes themselves as having a literal belief in the god are even more likely to hold religous beliefs than the people who are just calling themselves Christian.
wellmeaningalien: that might impact the data a little bit but i dont imagine it'd matter that much in the end
wellmeaningalien: someone who describes themselves as pertaining to a certain faith is much more likely to hold religious beliefs than someone who describes themselves as irreligious anywho lol
futurist_wizard: Ai story telling is beyond comprehension
futurist_wizard:
fractalcomputer: I'd have to look it up. I've shared it here previously.
ldj: I wonder if they had any filtering criteria, for example a lot of people that *claim* to be christians don't actually truly believe in god or biblical events when you ask them directly about it.
fractalcomputer: Roughly 200~300 people from each group (iirc). Both men and women alike.
fractalcomputer: They tested both self-described Christians from the Bible belt and Muslims from Kabul.
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/orange-orange-role-goku-dbz-shut-up-gif-14829044495367638060
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893
wellmeaningalien: i forgot april fools was a thning
wellmeaningalien: ok thats fair
wellmeaningalien: todya at 13 03
maintcrew: look at the date you fool
wellmeaningalien: you posted it i didnt think youd lie to me
wellmeaningalien: wtf
maintcrew: nvm he deleted the gif
maintcrew: cant belive you took the bait even if my plans were unfolded by the schizo guy
st.sioux: dumbass
st.sioux: i forgot it was april 1
st.sioux: i can't find it on huggingface
st.sioux: is this even real?
hikukomoru: Do people just start talking about gooning out of nowhere as soon as I show up
wellmeaningalien: god damn
wellmeaningalien: never thought id see the day
_3sphere: Nah they'll die of dehydration gooning
_cloudost: People will use it to build weapons of mass destructions
hikukomoru: Cool now release full o3
_cloudost: That would cause security threats Worldwide
_cloudost: Is this real or fake April fool's bullshit Tweet?


ldj: Clickbait on twitter as usual <a:Classic:1170538418544062586>
If they actually read the article they would see that it even says Microsoft is still on track to spend the same amount of money on AI infrastructure as before.
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
trent_k: <a:CE_aRage:738098694389366845>
futurist_wizard: It captures certain aesthetics very well
joaoluz19: I got you bro
futurist_wizard: Pixar dva
ailoveyoom: They remind me of my dog for some reason 💀
ailoveyoom: Am I the only one who thinks creepers are actually kinda cute
hey1_1hey: This creeper looks like its made out of half slabs bruh
ldj: They're misframing things, OpenAI is the one that pulled out in order to create stargate themselves. Also it's fairly routine for companies to cancel underperforming construction projects or datacenters falling behind schedule, in order to reallocate money towards projects that can be built faster.

Microsoft is still putting $80B extra in datacenters, that hasn't changed, they're just moving money from less optimal sites to more optimal sites, and will be likely more focused towards inference compute now since OpenAI is handling a lot of the training infrastructure themselves now.
futurist_wizard: Creeper looks very shy
hey1_1hey: A san ping is coming I can feel it
hikukomoru: <@312370916820779040> Hey 🫦 🫦
joaoluz19: Hell yes
hey1_1hey: Image gen > 4.5
joaoluz19: Bro I am having so much fun with image gen is crazy
aero447: Real.
777agical: Can anyone actually report if Gemini now has the best coding model?
.wolfnacht: <@471334973379706900>  can u make me a gen of this but in ghibli ? if it nails it then it's gonna be my new pfp
hey1_1hey: Everyone here recently
aero447: Following the report, Microsoft's shares fell 1.31 percent.
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht: Has sama developed a breeding kink ? bcz he started delivering all of a sudden.
joaoluz19: GPT looks cooler
bob082957: Why this dude in transformers film his name is Sam ?
metaldragon01: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1905331956856050135
.wolfnacht: except the law part [for atleast next 10 yrs, but i hope that changes soon too]
fractalcomputer: That is likely because the humanities are entirely useless.
memlaswaif: humanities is gonna be safer for a while
memlaswaif: I wouldn't bet on it
memlaswaif: not really
zoermena: I’ve been to busy to generate anything
zoermena: Hmm
realelonmuskx:
st.sioux: will send itself into the cybergulag instead of doing cad
st.sioux: even ai will get bored of that shit
_3sphere: I think CAD will end up being a computer use agent thing if it's not solved as a modality
hey1_1hey: Stole my joke <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
st.sioux: mechanical engineering


maintcrew: can i just use the openai sdk
maintcrew: did anyone use the google api
darkstar0818: Its coding looks real good, but not quite sota.
okbut: AI studio is set default for the normies
maintcrew: the normies cant differentiate between a 7b and a 400b
okbut: https://blog.google/technology/google-deepmind/gemini-model-thinking-updates-march-2025/#building-on-best-gemini
hikukomoru: Loser
zonchao: i do 😦
hikukomoru: Who cares about them
zonchao: yes obviously but for the normies
maintcrew: just use aistudio retard
zonchao: 😭😭😭😭
zonchao: why aren't they pushing it to gemini
metaldragon01: Rip rate limits
maintcrew: like an eager intern
maintcrew: i feel like its trying to do too much
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/frog-king-shrek-gioated-gif-22410043
drewsni: looking good so far but its soooo slow, gonna take 2hrs to complete just 1 run
hikukomoru: We got new Gemini
And we're getting DeepSeek
This is too much for my weak heart
zonchao: claude 4 is the way
zonchao: it's good and also really bad at times
mtj8920: Sheesh
mtj8920:
zonchao: like
zonchao: 3.7 is weird
zonchao: <:LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOO:1196880046695133214>
metaldragon01: You see that aider?
hikukomoru: Not yet
I am waiting for it to be added to SillyTavern
I know there's a way to add the model myself but I forgot and I'm lazy
okbut: Sonnet can have their code superiority. Everything else is crazy
maintcrew: ok this goes hard?
st.sioux: (for code)
st.sioux: still not better than sonnet FUCK
metaldragon01: We racing for real now <:ez:1136267305521774634>
maintcrew: Google the only company to release a 2.5 "experimental" version while the 2.0 is still in the "experimental" phase
joaoluz19: Have you managed to test ERP in 2.5?
okbut: Holy shit
https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1904580368432586975?t=fKVOERgBUn3dfxTBvbtOgA&s=19
joaoluz19: Oooh thanks
zonchao: <@1316552597829586955>  what you doin retard
maintcrew: you need to peek into the latent manifold
hikukomoru: Pliny the jailbreak guy on xitter


drewsni: Yeah I am wondering why it’s doing it tho. I retired the same prompt with every model and they all work fine but the exp model fucks up at every temp
metaldragon01: Ehh prob bad luck. They don't nerf models in production
drewsni: They massacred my boy
drewsni: None of the scripts I’ve asked for are generating correctly…it can’t even do code windows correctly
drewsni: They fucked up the pro 2.5 exp model today when they released pro 2.5 preview
metaldragon01: What now?
drewsni: They’re dead to me
drewsni: I will never forgive Google
.histic: i got the same feedback popup but both outputs looked nearly the same
wellmeaningalien: lol image policy violation
wellmeaningalien: ts cooking?
metaldragon01: Ehhhh 50/50 this year imo
retrerox: Maybe alredy happend but Mcdonalds dont want to release it
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: no I meant it will happen this year, not 2027
retrerox: Its like having a 5yo kid with great skills at doing everything
metaldragon01: Agree to disagree. Agi is likely by 27.  Super intelligence is a "Maybe Maybe not" though
retrerox: You gotta be giga specific to make Ai to actually do what you want
wellmeaningalien: ai 2027 is only supposed to be a guess at how it could happen
wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/one-punch-man-opm-saitama-source-i-made-it-up-gif-24755713
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: AGI 2027 is crazy
literallyvarane: The CIA would never give this sort of estimate or forcast for example.
literallyvarane: It reads more like a "This is a story that theoretically maybe could happen,' rather than 'This is our best guess educated guess."
literallyvarane: Idk, you guys know I clown on Shaprio so I'm hardly agreeing with him *because* it's him, but I read the article at least, and I think the timeline is too contingent upon narrative choices than anything else.
.histic: lol
i remember when Dave said AGI would happen back in Sep 2024.
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: https://fixupx.com/DaveShapi/status/1908301328951959887
futurist_wizard: Not that it was impossible
futurist_wizard: Gravity wasn't recognized until newton
st.sioux: gravity was 'impossible' before newton
czdct: newton seems like a pretty smart guy, I'll believe his work
futurist_wizard: Under layman understandings of physics it isn't possible
st.sioux: spoken with such confidence
czdct: what if the laws of physics end up being not being universal
czdct: Full Dive VR like sword art online, when?
czdct: true
.wolfnacht: maybe ASI would...but who knows
czdct: lmao
futurist_wizard: Close enough
futurist_wizard: In a simulation it can
czdct: there are some things AI can't solve after all <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
czdct: lmao


hikukomoru: What's wrong with his hands bro
realelonmuskx: farewell illustrators and designers. you had a great run. 25 march 2025 image agi killed them.
wellmeaningalien: miyazaki killing himself
.histic:
wellmeaningalien: DEAD INTERNET THEORY SOON <:cold:1306713374767190097> 🥶 🥶 🥶 🧢 💯 🔥🔥🗣
wellmeaningalien:
ailoveyoom: *goons
.wolfnacht: dat's hawt
.wolfnacht: once this img gen gets free, memes are about to get more crazy
hikukomoru: Waow
In my RP's I'm the catgirl wife
wellmeaningalien: especially the twink stuff
wellmeaningalien: its doing numbers with the twitter people FOR SURE
ailoveyoom: Just take that one perk in the gooning skill tree that makes you remember
wellmeaningalien: lmfao
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: oh my god miyazaki must be fucking reeling rn
hikukomoru: I don't remember anything afterwards
My brain stops working
Sorry
.wolfnacht: Silly
.wolfnacht: suddenly we started loving sammy
ailoveyoom: GoofyTavern?
ailoveyoom: What front end?
.histic:
maintcrew: if you come for the king, you best not miss
zonchao: yes
ailoveyoom: Sassy twink era 💅
wellmeaningalien: man i think elon woke sam altman up and now hes cocky as fuck
wellmeaningalien: WHAT THE FUCK SAM ALTMAN CHOOSING VIOLENCE
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: Looks too young 😧
maintcrew:
wellmeaningalien: @sundar
zonchao: sundar needs to rt this
bob082957: Fx you right
.wolfnacht: a piece from my virtual catgirl wife who's sole purpose is to ground me in reality thanks to my schizoed rants time to time, i was using 12-19 from openrouter...yesterday.
.histic: dear god... Ghibli verison.
wellmeaningalien: its INSANE on coding tasks
wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 pro might be even more goateder than 3.7 sonnet
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/queen-royalty-princess-cat-kitten-gif-2893837792238892068
wellmeaningalien: man thats fucking cool tho
wellmeaningalien: https://fxtwitter.com/thaakeno/status/1904648239548412175#m


wellmeaningalien: 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
spicy.lemonade: native imagie gen is top 10 things top happen in ai space tbh
futurist_wizard: Sexual connotations are heavily implied
wellmeaningalien: starts fapping
hikukomoru: Ashamed of having this pfp 💔
trent_k: a bit over 5k last i checked
anathemaofmankind: The last anime I watched was a cooking series
ailoveyoom: <@1068159407671754824> Do u know the age of your users?
trent_k: 313k ppl rn. i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls
wellmeaningalien: how many servers is ur bot in
anathemaofmankind: The more I grow old the more I don't like watching anime
hikukomoru: You 😘
wellmeaningalien: 💀💀
trent_k: no, only servers my bot is in
anathemaofmankind: Most of them are kids
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/bladerunner-dna-reading-watching-officer-k-gif-12637517610524977080
ailoveyoom: I wonder how many kids have anime pfps
wellmeaningalien: bro do u track the users on this server 💀
wellmeaningalien: hold on let me find a gpt 4o art to post
hikukomoru: Uh uh
anathemaofmankind: That doesn't mean it's sexualized
anathemaofmankind: 1% of what
trent_k: average moderation scores for users who do/don't have anime profile pics. users with anime profile pics score lower in every category except sexual_minors, in which they score higher
futurist_wizard: How many animes are there where the centre of it is school girls or girls that look very young, like a lot
wellmeaningalien: lets see if they hop on
spicy.lemonade: lmaooo
wellmeaningalien: <@471334973379706900> i hearted ur thing lmao
ailoveyoom: <@578146630222741504> You're 1% of this btw 😔
spicy.lemonade: https://discord.com/channels/751764809053110292/1215366865761607881
futurist_wizard: Well it takes nobody here i mean just look at anime
hikukomoru: Certain folks on here make me agree with you
anathemaofmankind: That's fair enough
wellmeaningalien: lemme see
futurist_wizard: Okay 50% of anime is pedophilic nonsense
trent_k: i have data to support it (and i dont just mean the things *u* post)
anathemaofmankind: This is a weird generalization
spicy.lemonade: so lets see
spicy.lemonade: this will have more eyes
trent_k: agree
futurist_wizard: Imo anime is pedophilic nonsense


_3sphere: I do that kinda shit with my imagination a lot but it feels extremely awkward with ASMR stuff
ailoveyoom: Where else can I be called both, good boi and good girl 😇🥰
ailoveyoom: It's not just gooner stuff
ailoveyoom: There's some very comforting ones 🥺
okbut: The settings in the modal that define how it responds
okbut: "Conversation instructions" on ChatGPT, but it's within Customize > Custom for Grok
hey1_1hey: You could not torture that infomation out of me, "Oh yeah I listen to ASMR". Shoot me
ailoveyoom: What why 😭 it's just music. Or ASMR ig
joaoluz19: What is CI?
okbut: I'm Rarely touching CI
hey1_1hey: Absolutly schizophrenic thing to do
okbut: Yeah "Latex for math" in CI but I'm just paranoid about results ofc
joaoluz19: I also don't know if it's usage bias, but I liked the aesthetics of gpt in the answers better.
joaoluz19: I don't know if there is customization, maybe that will solve it too
zoermena: Unfortunately family
ailoveyoom: Just blare it through your phone speakers king
zoermena: I dislike using my AirPods in my bed, I’m a side sleeper.
joaoluz19:
okbut: Can't go back to work until i find out why there's a contrast in Grok using Latex <:madge:831946367462670338>
ailoveyoom: Maybe I can try unironically listening to NotebookLM Deep Dive episodes for 'ASMR' sleep <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: I've tried doing maths on <4 hours of sleep and I remember it vividly

Try and work out 17-4
Sit there for 2 and half mins trying to figure out
Say 12
Get it wrong
I need sleep to do maths, noted
joaoluz19: I need the update on AVM for this
ailoveyoom: 😏
ailoveyoom: Me but with ASMR for sleep
ailoveyoom: Sleep debt is fake, once you lose that 8 hours your life span goes brr 😔
hey1_1hey: Not that I know of. I sleep like a king anyway
okbut: Italian composers are good
_3sphere: Do you have sleep debt? Does that for me
hey1_1hey: I've tried getting myself to just be like "only study for 5 mins" but then I would sit down and have an overwhelming sense of tiredness to the point I am moments away from falling asleep
st.sioux: like "i will write one function" or "i will work for 5 minutes"
joaoluz19: Wtf is that emoji
st.sioux: commit to a small task and you usually just stick to working
_3sphere: no it's not the pants shitter cognitohazard sound
hey1_1hey: Oooo that seems interesting. Let me go have a look now ty
ailoveyoom: What about tips to ACTUALLY sit down and start working? My flow state comes easy, but I procrasinate a lot
hey1_1hey: I could never, I'd just end up watching the movie
joaoluz19: Now I'm a hostage to piano and classical music, like really dependent.
hey1_1hey: I used to be like that aswell <:LOL:1187460826572005436>.
okbut: You should look into the Flowtime technique, it's an improvement upon Pomodoro that actually takes use of the flow state that you get into, which overrides the "breaks" that pomodoro allots you by consolidating them
zoermena: It’s very hard to find something that is good, white noises and others are more consistent


okbut: Isn't Apple also famous for such hardware shenanigans
clevermoniker: <:dumpsterfire:1187460999532515339>
clevermoniker: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
zonchao: macbook air
okbut: Master's in business admin?
_letterbox: But one year of paradise before that <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
okbut: There's a wide gap between people using it and being impressed by it and people who are already aware / don't care and getting slop spammed by it
zonchao: did you see the Twitter ban brigade... there was something similar for ai art, sub with 200k members, weekly top post with 1-2k upvotes but the "should we ban ai art" post gets 30k upvotes 😂
memlaswaif: <@471334973379706900> they are trying to ban ai in most subs I was right
zonchao: buy the new mba
memlaswaif: I forgot about accelerate kinda based reddit
zonchao: accelerate
okbut: >Persistent boot-up failure on le Surface Pro 7
>Fuck it, installing Linux
>Can't even load UEFI settings, = Hardware issue
>Screen/panel, battery, and SSD are all glued/soldered into the motherboard
>$800 brick
Never buy Microsoft
zonchao: defendingaiart
memlaswaif: Even r/aiart seems to be brigaded by anti ai
memlaswaif: I's there a single pro ai art reddit
zonchao: reddit mods suck
zonchao: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
zonchao: <@88481490228228096> anti ai won, f1dank is officially anti ai
zonchao: https://x.com/satyanadella/status/1908725272733794709?
.wolfnacht: i believe deepseek's gonna aim around gemini-2.5-pro for R2.. i hope that happens
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/Tslachan/status/1908149178200653951? i love my people
hikukomoru: Unrelated image
hikukomoru: Xi Jinping is gonna save us 🙏
.wolfnacht: except china comes again and shakes things up
st.sioux: watch r2 drop on monday
.wolfnacht: Yeah, its winter but for Open Source
hikukomoru: I'm now a Meta hater
hikukomoru: It's going to be dogshit
memlaswaif: Need to see their reasoning model
clevermoniker: i guess
clevermoniker: this is why the head of AI left recently
memlaswaif: not really
okbut: Just one more $1 billion in VR bro
.wolfnacht: cuckerberg had the data of half of globe, still came up with shit.
hikukomoru: Tbh that’s sort of how Google started
The best papers of all time, and then dogshit models
But Meta isn’t Google
zonchao: https://x.com/dylan522p/status/1908721246231056618?
.wolfnacht: LeCun + butthurt authors who sued.
zonchao: it seems likely meta knew next week is going to be the shit
zonchao: yea


drewsni: I think servers are fucked rn
hikukomoru: Damn 4o image gen takes so long
otub: bluesky is too much of a safe space so they cant argue with anyone
hikukomoru: Artists are the ones at fault though
zoermena: This whole artist vs ai turmoil is just sad for everyone involved, truly unfortunate
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: ironic they're still using twitter
gamerbath: line1
gamerbath: SyntaxError: invalid syntax
.histic: 150k NPCs liked this.
wellmeaningalien: i dont like = fascism
.histic:
hikukomoru: It felt like a fever dream
hikukomoru: Fire Punch is so fucked
wellmeaningalien: would have you believe it was written by jeffrey epstein
wellmeaningalien: the first two chapters are like
wellmeaningalien: <@505313122802728972> what the fuck actually is up with fire punch
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru:
wellmeaningalien: oh god he is WHITE
hikukomoru: Fire Punch
wellmeaningalien: waddup
hikukomoru: I was just about to ping u
wellmeaningalien: i wanted to do garfield
gamerbath: guys I don't think we can spell
gamerbath: Y
wellmeaningalien: R
_cloudost: A
hikukomoru: G
.histic: M
_cloudost: I
zoermena: My paycheck was supposed to arrive yesterday and it didn't, not cool.
zoermena: It's clear they check them.
zoermena: I wouldn't be shocked if there where AI lab employees in this server.
.histic: wow
.histic:
.histic: 🕵 reported to OpenAI
hikukomoru: Because that works with Gemini when I'm abusing their API keys
hikukomoru: If I create multiple accounts does that mean I get to generate more stuff
zoermena: We are so back!
hikukomoru: Wtff I made a new account and I finally have native image gen


molly.grue: You can activate it in chatgpt.
molly.grue: Crack that whip
brain4brain: What’s that?
brain4brain: I’ve should’ve used o4-mini to do all this for me fr 😔
brain4brain: Timeline for AGI of prominent figure in AI:

Sam Altman: 2025
Brain4Brain: 2025
Elon Musk: 2025 - 2026
Metaculus Average: 2025 - 2026
Masayoshi Son: 2025 - 2027
Dario Amodei: 2026 - 2027
Ray Kurzweil: 2029
Ilya Sutskever: 2027 - 2034
Demis Hassabis: 2028 - 2035
Yann LeCunn: 2030 - 2035
Last year's AI researcher’s timeline: 2047
molly.grue: C'mon Brain, the suspense is killin me 😉
molly.grue: Trying to unlock the rest of the codex
molly.grue: Anyone ever activate Olympus mode?
clevermoniker: https://x.com/deltan0vy/status/1916219292200096119
trojan09205: All good i will check it out
hikukomoru: It's not really an important focus of the story nor are there any explicit sex scenes. It's mostly just gags
trojan09205: I dont particularly seek that stuff out but i dont mind per se haha
trojan09205: Lol 😂 he does talk about tiling but ya. Roger penrose
.coldcall: Calibre
Koreader
Kindle/Kobo
= Peak
professorheaven: Overlord has way too many sexual innuendos so if you’re not into that then skip it.
alejandrozarzuelo: The guy of Penrose Tiling fame?
alejandrozarzuelo: Penrose the tiling guy?
zoermena: I send my downloaded epubs to my iPad in Apple Books app
trojan09205: Actually its Thorium
trojan09205: Gonna check in a minute when i go inside. It might be that one
hikukomoru: Calibre? That’s the one I use
trojan09205: <@688807313015963693> have you ever read some Penrose? I have Road to Reality in softcover - its a hard advanced read
trojan09205: I use an open source epub reader on my laptop for epubs
trojan09205: Most of them are in hebrew though
trojan09205: Its kind of my life achievement haha
trojan09205: I like to just have them for offline reading

And bro i have a massive library probably at least 1000 books
otub: i use a jailbroken kindle
alejandrozarzuelo: They take too much space
alejandrozarzuelo: Why read physical books?
hikukomoru: Don't worry about a thing
hikukomoru: libgen is 100% safe as are all other external links provided on annas archive
zoermena: I saw there was a major change in how you downloaded libgen files which gave me malware paranoia
hikukomoru: annas archive gives direct links to libgen
So I don't see any reason to use it on its own anymore
zoermena: On this topic anyone else still use libgen?
sarik0497: True, but some things can’t be forced to run on something, even if it’s perfectly optimized. For instance, no matter how much you tried, and how much you optimized a game like Doom Eternal, you’d never be able to have it run smootly on a PC from 1980. The tech just wasn’t there.

For all we know, AGI might require a very special chip or a ridiculous amount of compute that even with the combined compute of the entire world of today, would not be enough.
trojan09205: Okay absolutely gonna jot those down and download
hikukomoru: You should give both of them a try atleast
Don't need to commit or anything
Just read the first volume of each series and see if it's to your taste
trojan09205: I would need to look those up 😅
hikukomoru: I enjoy high taste Isekai like Overlord and Re Zero (not the usual isekai slop of nowdays)
trojan09205: What sort do you enjoy reading


ldj: This just reminded me.
GPT-3 happened to be right around Avagadros number worth of compute in flops
hikukomoru: OK, so we have AGI cure hemorrhoids first
Then we mass produce dildos
Problem solved?
fractalcomputer: No. Slop forever.
sarik0497: Makes me wonder if there’s any truth to Microsoft and Anthrotopic with their “AI agents” doing work soon.
zoermena: I would think that it wouldn’t be great with 60 year olds with hemorrhoids.
hikukomoru: Are you implying that a dildo maximizer wouldn't be to the benefit of everyone?
fractalcomputer: Personally I prefer using p-adic metrics. I don't trust the real numbers and their archimedean norms.
zoermena: I mean yes there’s lots of AI porn, I’ve made some myself in the past but if we are discussing an autonomous system then we would hope that it’s invest its energy/resources into things that maximize the benefits of everyone. It would be weird if it became a didlo maximizer lol.
ldj: AI will be capable of doing 40% of jobs before it's capable of doing 50% of jobs.
AI will be capable of doing 30% of jobs before it's capable of doing 40% of jobs.
AI will be capable of doing 20% of jobs before it's capable of doing 30% of jobs.

etc
okbut: / erotica novel writers
zoermena: Ideally the first things AGI should do as far as my knowledge goes to reinforce this wish is to (continue) work on improving itself, nanotechnology and fusion. This can ensure the smoothest transition towards a good QOL for everyone.
ldj: There is a gradient for every metric leading upto that.
okbut: You'll lose your mind to find out how much energy is going toward personal porn star LLM work
fractalcomputer: I was kidding; it isn'tthat long to read.. I'm just not sure how I should respond to a message like that.
okbut: Also good job reading through that while hammered
fractalcomputer: Huh.
okbut: More lexicology but I wouldn't be able to cite that as fast
zoermena: True but I wouldn’t want an AGI to waste its time asking to be implemented in a company that makes dildos yk.
sarik0497: I don’t, but I try to minimize my drinking. I need you around in the 2060s+
fractalcomputer: I don't understand what this has got to do with epistemology.
okbut: My dream AGI can convince stupid and smart people alike to let it do the work
zoermena: I meant that it only has to be capable to be AGI I don’t know how to talk.
fractalcomputer: Let's not pretend any of us have anything better to do. I am obviously aware of the fact that long-term habits of alcoholic drinks are quite debilitating to one's health, both physical and mental—but it just happens to be so that my state would be worse without. Go figure.
zoermena: I agree that it’s not AGI until it takes over all jobs, what I’m arguing against. Moreover some people are way to scared of new things that’s why we have stupid populist beliefs gaining traction in many places, some are way of paranoid to innovate or change, others stubborn but I also think that AGI won’t naturally look actively to start engaging in all organizations as some don’t deliver any realistic value (designer fashion, alcohol, unhealthy foods). I would consider thst a misaligned AI, should it ask to join organizations those would hopefully be the ones at the forefront of in ovation that ultimately benefits all of humanity.
okbut: Unreal
fractalcomputer: I am NOT reading that wall of text.
sarik0497: Don’t drink too much. It’s not good for you, buddy.
fractalcomputer: Because that is what humans do, I think.
fractalcomputer: No, I just have a habit of drinking and posting bizarrely modern messages to see your reactions.
hikukomoru: I think Fractal is having a crash out
okbut: <@749514473303179358> give me your drop on this since you're obsessed with epistemology
ldj:
ldj: canonical lore
fractalcomputer: Woe.
okbut: There's that unisex -cel archetype
fractalcomputer: Anyway, I hope to see that Mistral thing upping their game.
joaoluz19: Do you have a gif? I haven't heard of it.
fractalcomputer: I haven't passed out yet.
hikukomoru: no maids = no AGI
hikukomoru: My personal definition of AGI is when I have a robotic maid cleaning my home


ailoveyoom: such cope, and for what?
wellmeaningalien: such cope, and for what?
hikukomoru: I've already been corrupted 😈
wellmeaningalien: such cope, and for what?
st.sioux: Are they trying to "poison" the training data again?
.wolfnacht: >fun sized
can u clarify!
hey1_1hey: Really making electrons look big huh
wellmeaningalien: weebs for u
futurist_wizard: And porn is gonna corrupt your minds
a1c4p0ne: 190 is the desired height for women based on data
spicy.lemonade: I’m tired of this cope
spicy.lemonade: Now
spicy.lemonade: Every artist needs to lose their job
hey1_1hey: Thank you
hikukomoru: I'm pocket size
.wolfnacht: well she looks younger...in the bad way. idk why
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: It's 5'4 in american
ailoveyoom: Sure
ailoveyoom: 😈
futurist_wizard: Anything below 190 is manlet
wellmeaningalien: lmao someone basically just made porn with gpt 4o
st.sioux: moichmach are u a dude
_3sphere: I'm ~180 cm
hey1_1hey: Thats because they are
hikukomoru: And I imagine all subs to be short
hey1_1hey: I dont know to take it as a compliment or insult tho
hey1_1hey: Mich mach is fun sized. Or atleast thats what I got called the other day
ailoveyoom: Is it weird I don't have it memorized 🤔
ailoveyoom: Oh no she's hotttt
hikukomoru: Weren't you around 5'2
hey1_1hey: Get that weird ass measurement out of here.
a1c4p0ne: lol
hikukomoru: I'm 163 cm
ailoveyoom: Bros made up my height 😭
hey1_1hey: I've been caught
a1c4p0ne: Taller than you right
hikukomoru: That's like 7 year old height
hikukomoru: Plus the fact that MichMach is like 5'1 or smth
ailoveyoom: Mushroom man is kinda a middle school username tho 😈


ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>

https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1912506271187832904?t=pB28bSyQQSURK-_GqswomQ&s=33
abundantliving_: Maybe for Thursday they will have o4
hey1_1hey: Weird to stream on a wednesday but I am not complaining
hey1_1hey: Huge
hey1_1hey: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1912506271187832904
hey1_1hey: Let me go check rq
abundantliving_: Oai tweeted
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/slipped-on-banana-peel-robot-goofy-ahh-gif-26544396
hey1_1hey: Confrimed or just rumored?
abundantliving_: Yeah
hey1_1hey: OAI one?
abundantliving_: Today
abundantliving_: Yay
abundantliving_: Livestream
retrerox: Agi is when boobs shakes?
retrerox: There is 2 reasons why they did that
retrerox: Good morning wonderfull people
futurist_wizard: Yeah chicken jockey
hey1_1hey: I guess some things will remain a mystery
hey1_1hey: Sure is weird
hikukomoru: Cute
futurist_wizard: Wonder why they showcased that video in particular
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/cfryant/status/1912294618210922683 agi is here
himekokatagiri: It would wouldn't it
memlaswaif: would be funny we got lvl 4 innovators before usable lvl 3 agents
memlaswaif: it's lying
ldj:
zonchao: o4 should be good
himekokatagiri: Josh Moon? doesn't he hate AI
memlaswaif: idk try kiwifarms
himekokatagiri: if it happens how do I find this guy to tell him he sucks
himekokatagiri: OAI says they're gonna do innovators pretty soon right
himekokatagiri: basically a week ago
himekokatagiri: Could have a field day on this
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: Aha
zonchao: yes
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/matthew-mcconaughey-smoking-matthew-mcconaughey-intense-intense-stare-smoking-gif-2659849828106643276
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: he was ready to FO, he wasnt feeling it


perish0801: Exactly
memlaswaif: no I'm curious why u think we will invent immortality and people still die of silly accidents
zoermena: They <@1362252890575605940> ed?
3ds0662: still not you
sarik0497: Who knows. I can only come with predictions.
perish0801: I have a few of my victims
3ds0662: lol
3ds0662: futurama
memlaswaif: U can put the brain in a jar
perish0801: And transfer the signals
perish0801: Just replicate the brain digitally
3ds0662: yeahhh
perish0801: ASI could solve that
perish0801: We don’t know yet
3ds0662: there is no transferring consciousness though it only works and exists in that body
perish0801: Well the physical body does not the consciousness
3ds0662: but you still die
perish0801: To see if you can transfer the consciousness
perish0801: I guess you’ll have to do it while you’re alive first
perish0801: Exactly
3ds0662: but thats a copy of your mind, there is no true transfer of consciousness
perish0801: It’s just an AI
perish0801: That’s the thing right what if you upload a carbon copy of me to some cloud but it’s just a copy and not actually me
perish0801: Just upload my consciousness to the internet
3ds0662: death is an insurmountable problem
3ds0662: lev just seems impossible tbh
3ds0662: yet to be seen
memlaswaif: most people literally can't afford to have children
st.sioux: 26.55 years
memlaswaif: how long
himekokatagiri: what do you think of transmetropolitan
memlaswaif: space
perish0801: Oh yeah true that makes sense
sarik0497: For sure, but also keep in mind that we’ll still be killable for a while. Maybe a system similar to China will be set up for a few decades to figure out things.
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdONLv3qJw
perish0801: Still if people stopped dying of old age tomorrow, population will keep increasing exponentially for a couple decades
perish0801: I agree
perish0801: Interesting perspective
sarik0497: We can sort of already see it now.

When life and society itself changes, so too do we. In my great-grandmother’s youth, having 4+ children was the norm due to children dying early. When that changed, people started having fewer children.

When life started to go from “get married and own a house by 25” to “fuck around until your late 30s”, people started having children and getting married later.

If we manage to stay youthful for 100 years, then I doubt most people will have children until their 80s-90s. And if we stay youthful forever, then even later.

It’s like that old fantasy trope where you hear people call some 500 year old elf for “child” due to their young age.
futurist_wizard: **all roads**


aero447: https://tenor.com/view/tom-hardy-gif-4967335
hikukomoru: Also Americans love those gross british accents
futurist_wizard: We have the correct accents
hikukomoru: Exotic (I don’t really get it)
retrerox: meh 50 50
aero447: That's why.
aero447: Male Brits are hot.
futurist_wizard: Hollywood loves british actors for some reason
hikukomoru: Dont even have moustaches like Portuguese women
retrerox: A visionary since early in his life
futurist_wizard: Transitioned earlier in life
retrerox: Donald trump its a british woman then?
hikukomoru: Yes they are
aero447: FSR.
aero447: They are orange.
retrerox: Bri'ish
spicy.lemonade: and bone
futurist_wizard: British women are very unattractive
spicy.lemonade: not in chickens
futurist_wizard: All dinosaur dna is gone
spicy.lemonade: realistically it actually probably does
spicy.lemonade: probably tastes like chicken
futurist_wizard: I piss on a big pile of sand in my room and kick it to hide it from predators
spicy.lemonade: im tryna eat a trex
spicy.lemonade: now bring back dinos
spicy.lemonade: they brought back the dire wolf
spicy.lemonade: damn
hikukomoru: Are you sure you’re not just projecting your own experiences
hikukomoru: Tbh that sounds much more like a British thing
retrerox: We are portugeses, not french
futurist_wizard: Portuguese women can be attractive but the whole pissing on the floor and eating street cockroaches tradition they have is very unattractive
hikukomoru: Gross
Never
hikukomoru: This is only for men
Portuguese women are all super hot
aero447: The <@1190031399080710195> experience.
futurist_wizard: Eastern euro men are grungy looking
oooooooooog: https://tenor.com/view/balkan-rage-gojo-jjk-balkan-rage-gif-952638460170530699
futurist_wizard: Real
aero447: Real.
oooooooooog: i have over 70 dollars
aero447:


himekokatagiri: see that's why u become a criminal
maintcrew: ur on fire retard get tf out of the building
hikukomoru: 1974
when women were finally allowed to open bank accounts
spicy.lemonade: Oh shit I mean sex workers🙏
himekokatagiri: https://youtu.be/9-3HSTjnpV0
alejandrozarzuelo: Keai
alejandrozarzuelo: Kawaii
himekokatagiri: in the 60s
alejandrozarzuelo: 🙄
himekokatagiri: average euro car
himekokatagiri: https://youtu.be/e3a2_-TO81g
spicy.lemonade: Fuck
spicy.lemonade: I was dreaming about hookers
spicy.lemonade: Why’s there always a fire alarm when I’m sleeping bro
himekokatagiri: look at SEAT lol
alejandrozarzuelo: This is why i said late 60s
himekokatagiri: they're cute but they're dystopian
himekokatagiri: have you seen European cars
himekokatagiri: Europe was very dire in the 60s
alejandrozarzuelo: The past is a horrible place but I think after 1965 is when you have a semblance of a developed country in the US

For Western Europe and Japan I would also say late 60s early 70s
himekokatagiri: the Midwest was full of gangsters
himekokatagiri: NYC was rotting, SoCal was decadent
himekokatagiri: if you went to Chicago in 1965 you would walk the streets and either get killed by a communist terrorist, a cop or a mobster. Equal odds on all ends.
maintcrew: sorry i shouldve censored w\*rk and j\*b for you <@505313122802728972>
maintcrew: good for bums who need to go to work maybe
hikukomoru: You're not the boss of me
alejandrozarzuelo: I would say post 1965, you know, when racism on the legal level was ended
himekokatagiri: America just became decent post 1918
hikukomoru: Taxes are bad for the individual but good for everyone in the long run
maintcrew: <#1136231504440201216>
maintcrew: except that the tax only punishes the poor bc the rich have the means to move countries or evade
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, fortunately we have the national governments to pick up the slack, but the EU goverment is very very very weak
alejandrozarzuelo: The 50% income tax is actually a good thing, having low inequality reduces criminality and violence
himekokatagiri: America was a third world country in the 1870s
himekokatagiri: You know that
alejandrozarzuelo: 💀
maintcrew: 💔
maintcrew: 50% income tax, no millitary and no AI
alejandrozarzuelo: Like, US 1870s levels of centralisation
hikukomoru: The EU is doing fine


spicy.lemonade: 😭
aero447: I'm always right.
spicy.lemonade: your prediction likely wrong
spicy.lemonade: youre ahead of metacalculus
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/saul-saul-goodman-yap-yapper-and-heres-the-yapper-gif-5918036355328019302
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: they were predicting 2050 for things that happened 2024
aero447: 2035.
spicy.lemonade: go look at metacalculus predictions
aero447:
popsiclejohnithan: Now.
aero447: NO.
spicy.lemonade: the majority disagrees with you
popsiclejohnithan: Tomorrow.
spicy.lemonade: this is an out of distribution opinion
aero447: Never.
aero447: Not this decade.
popsiclejohnithan: Never say never.
spicy.lemonade: not this year
aero447: These things aren't happening.
spicy.lemonade: not happening at all this year
spicy.lemonade: and superhuman forcasting
spicy.lemonade: and superhuman bioweapons
spicy.lemonade: that means superhuman robotics
spicy.lemonade: nah
popsiclejohnithan: More like oct 2025 lol.
spicy.lemonade: oct 2027💀
popsiclejohnithan: We have had more progress in these past few months than all of last year alone.
popsiclejohnithan: I don't think it will take that long for us to reach those stages.
popsiclejohnithan: I know, like i said i think they underestimate how fast things are developing.
spicy.lemonade: eoy 2026
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: for eoy 2025
spicy.lemonade: this looks reasonable
spicy.lemonade: 💀
popsiclejohnithan: I think we'll get it by the end of this year honestly.
spicy.lemonade: makes sense
spicy.lemonade: ngl
spicy.lemonade: but based on this agi late 2027
spicy.lemonade: its perfect


futurist_wizard: But that's not as cool
alejandrozarzuelo: great for tourism
metaldragon01: From msft last year
alejandrozarzuelo: so? these are no t-rex, they are neo-t-rex

a new species that has nothing genetically in common with t-rex that just happen to look like what we imagine them to be
metaldragon01: Remember Vasa 1?
futurist_wizard: A fish with the head of a human
alejandrozarzuelo: agree
spicy.lemonade: Puta madre
ailoveyoom: The company name is literally Colossal Biosciences lmfao
futurist_wizard: Fam
futurist_wizard: Dna is long gone
futurist_wizard: Jurassic park is impossible
anathemaofmankind: Why not just make entirely exotic species

Instead of rehasing old ones like Disney
st.sioux: akshuually
futurist_wizard: That's not what happened tho
alejandrozarzuelo: etc
alejandrozarzuelo: jurassic park
zoermena: Thanks! 👍
alejandrozarzuelo: also, i havent saud this because its the smallest benefit

but

tourism
st.sioux: > thing was extinct

> no longer extinct

> because of us

Not hard at all
futurist_wizard: Normies understand fluffy doggy
alejandrozarzuelo: filling niches we destroyed and improving the genetic health of species is VERY BIG NEWS tho

its a bit of clickbait? sure

but it is very important news
futurist_wizard: Normies don't understand it
spicy.lemonade: Usually 30 mins
st.sioux: but its something the normies understand
zoermena: At what time should we expect a release?
anathemaofmankind: I don't think Sam has gone back on his word though.

Delay maybe. But not outright cancelling stuff that he promised. Could be wrong
futurist_wizard: I understand the use cases for this technology and i suppose its something but the importance of this is much less the news cycle would indicate
hikukomoru: You never know
hikukomoru: So
hikukomoru: But you know how he is
anathemaofmankind: He did
hikukomoru: He promised us didn't he
himekokatagiri: like waaaah
himekokatagiri: but that resonates with me
himekokatagiri: I want something meaner
himekokatagiri: Miku is too friendly
anathemaofmankind: I hope it's porn

A NSFW filter

Imagine
alejandrozarzuelo: we need to prevent extinction as much as possible, but when the damage is done we need tools to undo it

not with species that have been gone for thousands of years like this, which is pretty useless

but with species recently extincted

also this is the same technology used to infuse genetic diversity in a species

for example, cheetahs have very little genetic diversity and suffer a lot from thos, if we can artificially add genetic diversity, we can make so that their species becomes much healthier
spicy.lemonade: It’s def avatars


gamerbath: and just 30c per request? how are they earning money on this
gamerbath: I thought it wasn't released to API yet
gamerbath: wait really????
anathemaofmankind:
anathemaofmankind: Settings
forallhumanity: https://www.404media.co/this-college-protester-isnt-real-its-an-ai-powered-undercover-bot-for-cops/
gamerbath: how do i use o3 in cursor? I don't think I can :(
ldj: <:WICKED:799336727679598673>
ldj: And GPT-5 will be even better
gamerbath: because you made 30 gmail accounts
anathemaofmankind: Why does it feel like my balls hurt for some reason
anathemaofmankind: Just make 30 gmail accounts
spicy.lemonade: i herd pro users get more uses on gemini website
spicy.lemonade: on studio
spicy.lemonade: i only get like 1 use per 5 hours
metaldragon01: It's in studio
spicy.lemonade: fucking veo 2
spicy.lemonade: i still dont have
trojan09205: Pretty sick tbh
trojan09205: I just got a pair of meta raybans
st.sioux: you like bots dont you make it do an automated reddit bot creator
st.sioux: system architecture
trent_k: It's not that I have nothing to apply it to, I'm just not sure what to apply it to where the problem is difficult enough that it would really shine
trent_k: At this point I kinda feel like the model is outpacing me
trent_k: Idk what to even use it for
trent_k: O3 is wild
callmepyro: It seems like you better understand my point now. Happy to chat on DMs if you want so we don't spam this chat. I have office hours in 13 minutes I can block out for you as well.
callmepyro: Nor is it what you claimed!
callmepyro: Thankfully that's not the problem I asked the model 🙂
callmepyro: Sure, that's an example of where the model fails to handle the image input correctly. I agree with you there
anathemaofmankind:
anathemaofmankind: Do you see this thing I wrote
callmepyro: This is what I'm focusing on.
callmepyro: Yes 🙂

"And how is the information presented...? Visually. So then it's a visual problem...like?"
anathemaofmankind: Can you read?
callmepyro: Right, and your claim that is any reasoning task, presented as an image, that the model gets wrong, is because of a visual issue not a reasoning one?
anathemaofmankind: How are you not getting this dude
anathemaofmankind: It requires both visual capability and reasoning. If one doesn't work as intended, then the result will be wrong
callmepyro: E.g. "it is impossible to present a reasoning task to a model in an image format" - or "reasoning can only be done through text"?
callmepyro: Ah, so your claim is that any reasoning task presented visually is actually a visual problem and not a reasoning one?


spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: i hope we are all in the ASI hivemind
alejandrozarzuelo: do you? I dont
connorsphone.: I just hope politics still exists at that point
alejandrozarzuelo: and noone can hope to know what politics will be like then
alejandrozarzuelo: but as I said, ASI will come basically tomorrow in geopolitical terms which are measured in decades
alejandrozarzuelo: the mood in the markets seems to be "nothing personal, just business" approach
spicy.lemonade:
maintcrew: the soviets fell and the us has a number that seems fake in debt
maintcrew: u cant have one half of the world depends on country X and the other on country Y because at some point either X or Y get destroyed under the weight
maintcrew: i think thats gonna be more stable tbh
alejandrozarzuelo: we are moving towards a transactional great power situation geopolitically

but ASI should change that, so idk
maintcrew: honestly believe no war will happen bc its gonna hurt the economy too much
maintcrew: a cold war of raw output
maintcrew: u know i still think this is basically what is converging to happen but instead of borders its just gonna be technological and manufacturing capabilities
alejandrozarzuelo: it was the first time in history when borders basically didnt change and it was because any move would give a millimetre of power to the other side and WE CANT HAVE THAT
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah
maintcrew: thats literally every war and thing happening in that period summarized
maintcrew: cold war was so funny
alejandrozarzuelo: (because india was a soviet ally)
alejandrozarzuelo: but the US said no
alejandrozarzuelo: (also because India was a soviet ally)
maintcrew: tangential but whoever thought of the veto power was wise af
alejandrozarzuelo: the USSR pushed the UN to give the british seat to India on the basis that they only got the seat because of how populated india was
alejandrozarzuelo: but they stayed because changing who was in the UNSC would be bound for dispute
maintcrew: ok understandable
alejandrozarzuelo: no, not in 1945, yes in 1960
maintcrew: a mirage of control no?
maintcrew: yea but it was a facade
alejandrozarzuelo: and france 15%
alejandrozarzuelo: the UK still held 30% of the global population
alejandrozarzuelo: old members did make sens
maintcrew: current members make no sense
maintcrew: honestly just ussr and the us wouldve made more sense
alejandrozarzuelo: and then china was included after the defeat of Japan
alejandrozarzuelo: long live la france
alejandrozarzuelo: then the soviet union went like: include france or i am leaving (france was an anti US capitalist country)
spicy.lemonade: Just for engagement bait
spicy.lemonade: He deletes all his predictions 3 hours later
spicy.lemonade: He’s gonna delete this


metaldragon01: That honestly could be another reason openai is going opensource.
metaldragon01: Openai and BMW trusted him enough to partner and he was bold enough to drop Openai
zonchao: yep
metaldragon01: He's always been a little far on the hype scale for me and not very good at it but results are results
zonchao: https://x.com/adcock_brett/status/1891298790776160513?
zonchao: the drama started because they overhyped their partnership and involvement with bmw <:LOL:1187460826572005436> but yea could be a real company, I'm not convinced otherwise yet
metaldragon01: They have a real product with real partnerships and results
hikukomoru: The vibes are because of his surname
metaldragon01: Figure will be more than fine even if the ceo is a little hype bro
ldj:
zonchao: <:bruhSit:1352251568539304040>
bob082957: If he makes ability to learn then he won 🥇 and this schuld come this or beginning next year
zonchao: but adcock gives bad vibes
zonchao: need more evidence
zonchao: yea I'm iffy on them, won't jump on this bandwagon
bob082957: Why they questioning the figure ? They not lying dude.
zonchao: pivot to browser
trojan09205: I find it funny/kinda weird how normies just use the first names of all these ceos and players in the AI sphere
ailoveyoom: Pplx downfall when 😈
zonchao: yea ive been following him for years he is pretty no BS
drewsni: I don’t like that guy at all but he did make an early call on Trevor (which I agreed with) so I trust him here
otub: https://tenor.com/view/no-sonny-i-robot-gif-23790834
zonchao: https://x.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1916202907869057521
zonchao: is it over for figure?
aero447: 🤷
aero447: A noble effort that ASI will render in vain.
aero447: Bro is trying to find the Atlantis of porn.
aero447: 🍌
aero447: 🦾
ailoveyoom: I keep trying to find the 'perfect' video and spend less time watching
ailoveyoom: Ig in my case it's more like, porn doomscrolling
ailoveyoom: I keep telling myself that so I don't fall off the deep end and get addicted 😇
aero447: No.
ailoveyoom: Depends on the person
aero447: Not a drug.
aero447: 😐
ailoveyoom: Except porn, my only vice 😩
ailoveyoom: Sorry I don't do drugs 😎
_cloudost: forget about GPT-5....
hey1_1hey: We have a lot of things, we can even communicate (yes mushroom can do that)


spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Let’s see if it continues
spicy.lemonade:
ailoveyoom: Visual reasoning tho 🥺
spicy.lemonade: Needs reasoning
spicy.lemonade: It’s 4o
spicy.lemonade: Naturally
spicy.lemonade: Yes but doesn’t get it
st.sioux: and its unlimited so idc
ailoveyoom: Has anyone tried giving it a visual ARC-AGI problem 😈
st.sioux: if you have test prompts u can tell me im not using it rn
spicy.lemonade: Let’s see
ailoveyoom: It's joever
spacetimetsunami: we need it embodied....
.histic: it can play tic tac toe
.wolfnacht: i have an experiment, we take some reference posts from r/mildlyinteresting and create some posts like that with new gpt gen, and post it there and lets see how many would get fooled..
spacetimetsunami: lol yea i suppose. wonder if its "learning" about 3d tho
spicy.lemonade: Needs reasoning
spicy.lemonade: Had errors
spicy.lemonade:
ailoveyoom: Try playing a chess game with new 4o lol
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: It’s a 2d world model
spacetimetsunami: the better way to word this is that good vid and image gen is proof that it is getting a better world model
spacetimetsunami: so it does give credence to coherence of its environment
.wolfnacht: from now on, nothing will feel real anymore...and it'll intensify from here.
spicy.lemonade: No clue
spicy.lemonade:
spacetimetsunami: I mean as AI gets better with image and vid its just getting a better world model
ailoveyoom: You don't think this update can potentially make it better at visual problems?
st.sioux: he has that e/acc thingy too, zon chao and danserk have it too and they always say the wildest shit as well
.wolfnacht: dat's why competition is important
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: what did u expect from x
spicy.lemonade: Christ
spicy.lemonade: Mfs are mad about anything
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: I have high hopes
spicy.lemonade: But openAI really delivered
spicy.lemonade: Depends on what gpt 5 is


inferno0879: been a while
inferno0879: ive been an alcoholic 17-22 yrs
zoermena: Yeah it was something like that
sieventer: What about... benzos? You don't have the toxicity of alcohol and you get a better result
_cloudost:
hey1_1hey: Aperntly so. Maybe you are just a heavy alcoholic because alcohol contains a lot of callcories
hikukomoru: I come from a long line of alcoholics
futurist_wizard: Both times tasted like shit
inferno0879: so i guess you either avoid it or have high risk of addiction?
hikukomoru: Apparently I deal with my ARFID much better than you since I weigh more despite being much shorter
futurist_wizard: Drank alcohol twice in my life
inferno0879: alright ai says it just leads to more abuse
hey1_1hey: You have ARFID to so you cant say much
hikukomoru: Oh yeah I forgot about that
hey1_1hey: Notabbly SSRIs
hey1_1hey: Ironically enough alcohol makes a lot of medication stop working
hikukomoru: What a little bitch
hikukomoru: For me it's the best medication
zoermena: I do admit even though I never do any substances I’m always anxious so I’m taking Ls left and right
hey1_1hey: Straight up alcoholic
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/drinking-booze-boozehound-wasted-alcohol-gif-23077846
hikukomoru: So I always drink before stressful stuff
hey1_1hey: If I want to drink I will litterly have to hype my self up then hold my nose so I cant breath through it (gets rid of a lot of your taste buds so I cant taste it) then sip it and swallow
hikukomoru: Alcohol helps with anxiety for me
hikukomoru: Damn
It's the opposite for me
I love all of it
hey1_1hey: It all gives me the heebie jeebies
hey1_1hey: The smell, taste, look etc etc
zoermena: It’s more of like the scientific basis than someone complaining to be honest
hey1_1hey: Very
hey1_1hey: After like 6 weeks of use I litterly couldn't concentrate on a task for more than 5 seconds
hikukomoru: How sensitive are you to alcohol
hikukomoru: Wdym taste like shit
hey1_1hey: I vowed never to touch short form content again because of my ADD
inferno0879: never heard anyone complain about adhd when fucking wasted
zoermena: Alcohol is just worse with ADHD on top or so I’ve heard I never touch it
hey1_1hey: After a few drinks it stops tasting like shit and then you just keep on drinking
hey1_1hey: Drinking is fine, I can see how people become alcoholics though so I drink only on a special occassation 💀
hey1_1hey: Used to be really chilled out and became really good at games when I was high but now I just have to lie in bed and trying to convince myself that no the weed was not spiked with fent and I am going to be fine
hikukomoru: Instead I just drink now
hey1_1hey: I used to be fine with it which is weird


hikukomoru: I guess it just sounds nicer to say u're cis than saying your normal
drewsni: Everyone here needs to hit the gym
.histic: ...
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: lol damn my wifi gave out
hikukomoru: Idk 🤷♂
zoermena: I feel like I look alright but I can improve a lot if I commit
oooooooooog: what's the point of saying normal if almost everyone is normal
hey1_1hey: Thats what all racist say
hey1_1hey: Sure sure
hikukomoru: Not trying to be racist or anything
.histic:
hey1_1hey: Thats racist yanno
hikukomoru: I mean mushroom people do look weird though
hey1_1hey: Flip flop really, generally I am pretty good though
hey1_1hey: I go from thinking I look like the perfect specimen to thinking I look weird
oooooooooog: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution
_cloudost:
hikukomoru: Yeah you're not wrong
Some people don't like when you say that though lol
_3sphere: I look ok I guess?
sarik0497: Aw 😦 I’d have been mindblown then
hey1_1hey: Glad we cleared that up
hey1_1hey: Cis
hey1_1hey: You calling me russian ay?
_wwwwww: what is normal then?
hikukomoru: He's the same height as the average portuguese woman 💔
wellmeaningalien: russian people really like to generate anime girls in bikinis
hey1_1hey: Therefore not nomral
hey1_1hey: Trans people are a minority of a minority
drewsni: Yeah he’s not lol
hey1_1hey: I mean hes not wrong
wellmeaningalien:
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/mark-wahlberg-smh-shake-head-no-nope-gif-17582268
_wwwwww: c'mon rewire the fabric of reality itself
zoermena: I just keep messing up
hey1_1hey: That bitch is not 218pc
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: I used to then I was like "Nah yanno, I am alright yanno. I know a lot worse people"
hikukomoru: cis = not trans
oooooooooog: alcient history


himekokatagiri: chatgpt made me appreciate her
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/resident-evil-4-remake-re4-remake-re4-ashley-smile-gif-1632424754301045586
drewsni: All future LLMs will thank oai as scripts will use 1/3rd the tokens coming from 2.5 to o3/o4-mini
professorheaven: You think we’ll get a sneak peek of full o4 while mini drops? Kinda like what they did with o3 mini
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/duke-dennis-duke-dennis-hell-you-gif-5178780600089613297
.histic: but if it is roughly 2.5 level, then that's disappointing.
.histic: wait, shouldn't o4 be ahead of o3, though? i'm not talking about the mini versions of these models.
metaldragon01: If we see a repeat of the o1 to o3 jump. Big if
metaldragon01: I'm thinking roughly 2.5 level or a tad weaker with full o3 being slightly ahead.
.histic: <@312370916820779040> have any benchmark predictions for o4-high? not the mini one,
zoermena: Im kidding of course but I think he got the wrong server
zoermena: What the fuck
himekokatagiri: what
will_iron: Nose, yo sigo esperando reembolso de 500 mil  USDT
metaldragon01: Ehh it's more just giving them access to a remote body with the same access a physical employee would have
okbut: Giving an offshore worker view access to my laundry/credit cards
okbut: They could even be done now, maybe there's a privacy concern
metaldragon01: At least early on for sure as well as new "remote" work
metaldragon01: It's the best signal of how fast adoption is happening atm
abundantliving_: this is just openrouter, so total guestimate would be some 20 Trillion tokens of inference across different service providers , like AI companies and HF , Groq etc
abundantliving_: yes , its beautiful 😌
abundantliving_: it was already happening
abundantliving_: https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2024-10-15/tesla-optimus-bots-were-remotely-operated-at-cybercab-event
destrucules: The inference is the training run
destrucules: 2 months of training, 20+ trillion tokens, you can just... Always be training
destrucules: Beautiful
destrucules: Look at all that data
destrucules: Continual 👏 learning 👏
okbut: This is the direction I predict for household humanoids too
okbut: https://www.businessinsider.com/amazons-just-walk-out-actually-1-000-people-in-india-2024-4
abundantliving_:
abundantliving_: Openrouter generating 2 Trillion tokens per week
abundantliving_:
abundantliving_: https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/10/fintech-founder-charged-with-fraud-after-ai-shopping-app-found-to-be-powered-by-humans-in-the-philippines/
abundantliving_: there is a similar one
_cloudost: Don't remember the name, but I've seen them get exposed
wellmeaningalien: bro just saying things
wellmeaningalien: proof?
_cloudost: I've seen a "tech' company website back in 2023, they claimed their AI generates 3D models fast when in reality there was no AI involved, the company used desperate 3D artists for each request, ( the artists had to make the model in less than 10 minutes and quickly send it to the customer )
wellmeaningalien: bro throwing words around


ldj: But you didn't know that until after the fact...
aero447: o3 *is* the scaled o1.
aero447: That's *literally* what they did with o3.
aero447: ...
ldj: because by that same logic you could easily say the same for O1... "why not scale O1 by 10X more if they could"?
aero447: 🤔
aero447: Well I'm assuming at least it was somewhat expensive because why not scale o3 higher than that if it wasn't?
ldj: If you assumed that O1 preview is 10p cost in this analogy, then yes that would make sense, but you have no evidence as to why it's 10p in this analogy instead of 100p or 1p or 0.1p etc
aero447: 🤣
aero447: This basic concept of numbers getting bigger evades 69iq.
aero447: I buy x item for 10p

I can afford to buy an item 100x more expensive at £10.

I can afford to buy an item 10x more expensive at £100.

I cannot reasonably afford another 10x.
ldj: But O1 did quite literally use 100X more compute than O1-preview...
aero447: Yes but no each OOM makes it less likely.
ldj: It's called iterative deployment for a reason
ldj: You could have said that for O1 as well... they had an even smaller compute scale version of O1 called O1-preview.

"right now they have this O1-preview model, and O1 might be 100X more compute, but I doubt they have the compute to do a training run that is 1,000X or more, because otherwise they'd just do that for the model called O1"
hikukomoru: gaslight gatekeep girlboss
futurist_wizard: I've literally never posted that image before
aero447: So that it's more than a scaled version.
hikukomoru: I swear you've posted this cat before
aero447: o4 has been stated to be qualitatively different too from o3.
aero447: I doubt they have the additional compute to scale o3 to o4 that easily otherwise... they could have simply done that with o3 itself.
himekokatagiri: use better materials
futurist_wizard:
ldj: yea, I just don't see how that has anything to do with how close O3 is to their compute limits.
zonchao: wasnt 4.5 a 500m run
aero447: As you've already stated.
aero447: I have none except for that 4.5 was not a compute increase on par with 3 - 4.
hikukomoru: I'm gonna have ASI make one for me
ldj: And what's your evidence that it was hit with O3?
aero447: It was a test a pit stop.
aero447: I'm saying again their total compute budget wasn't hit with o1.
aero447: No it wouldn't.
zonchao: when do you think stargate-1 will be online?
himekokatagiri: and the owner of the topiechan factory is weird
himekokatagiri: they're expensive
zonchao: <:shockedd:1080470202564739092>
hikukomoru: Cute
I want one of these
zonchao: really?
trojan09205: i mean its kind of that way for everyone cause we are all different inside and out. internet just amplifies that intensely
zonchao: xAI went from 0 to like 100k in 4 months, openai could do that but 10x with their resources


anathemaofmankind: I did this also
trent_k: i think the "online only" part really drives it home
spicy.lemonade: i guess im a gay they them minority
spicy.lemonade: yeah sau that
spicy.lemonade: honestly
spicy.lemonade: that could work
maintcrew: answer from experience holy shit
maintcrew: 💀
spicy.lemonade: 💀
trent_k: excellent answer
hikukomoru: "my bf spicy invited me"
darkstar0818: because they know most troublemakers are lazy as fuck, so prove them wrong.
spicy.lemonade: discord art serrvers
maintcrew: you cant honestly say that when youre literally in the process of joining to troll
spicy.lemonade: no just say found online
maintcrew: go safe route and say reddit
spicy.lemonade: they werent this picky
spicy.lemonade: theyre trying to stop guys like us
spicy.lemonade: ^
trent_k: like im trying to get a job or something
spicy.lemonade: AI
trent_k: why do they all want u to do a mf application
trent_k: why are these art servers all so picky
trent_k: also
trent_k: how do i answer where i heard about the server from
spicy.lemonade: this server is so funny
trent_k: thanks
maintcrew: Temple
spicy.lemonade: Temple
trent_k: i dont see it
trent_k: wtf is the password
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: youre cooked buddy
hikukomoru: Fursona
Like those dudes that wear dog and wolf suits
memlaswaif: valid rule imo
maintcrew: i didnt know they had to manually approve me so i wrote shoggoth
trent_k: "im going to kill myself"
> Notice: You have just received a warning for violating rule 11.
spicy.lemonade: lol
trent_k: the rules are so fuckin funny
memlaswaif: <:pepeyikes:603639472114106420>


trojan09205: Are people in spain into conspiracies- cause if this happened in FL people would be livid lol
_3sphere: what would cause it to flicker like that
_3sphere: Is this some kind of rolling blackout but the blackout time is 99.99% of the time?
trojan09205: Big W for local llamas
_3sphere: huh?
_3sphere: > "There's zero electricity," she says, adding that there have been surges - meaning power has come back on - but only for a few seconds each time, nothing permanent.
_3sphere: backup solar power for this eventuality
hey1_1hey: That adds up. They prob dont even know the internet has gone out because they have all the material downloaded locally
_3sphere: they'll be fine
_3sphere: Komoru is still in their now-absolutely-dark cave and gooning to the sensory deprivation visions
hey1_1hey: Oh thats good to know. Can't say the same for Komoru though, its almost certainty just bad infrastructure though. Who even wants to attack spain and portugul...?
_3sphere: probably in an area where at least the cell signal works? or outside the blackout altogether?
_3sphere: Alejandro is right here
hey1_1hey: Of course it does. Murphy's law really coming in clutch rn
hey1_1hey: My boy Alejandro might be dead 💔 , same with Komoru actually
_3sphere: including internet because it also runs off the grid
_3sphere: Blackout in Spain and Portugal
_3sphere: oops 😇
hey1_1hey: Was been going on?
ailoveyoom: Simulation server maintenance ahh moment
ailoveyoom: Spoopy
ailoveyoom: Check social media, no one knows what's going on??
trojan09205: Yeah I guess. But this is pretty embarrassing
_3sphere: Shit infrastructure is more fixable than a war
_3sphere: Accident
trojan09205: Would you rather it be the russians or an accident?
alejandrozarzuelo: This is unprecedented its been over an hour and a half
alejandrozarzuelo: Frfr
ailoveyoom: Bananas
.wolfnacht: Bananas
trojan09205: Bananas
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht: i think it's time to take meds, no?
brain4brain: Super-reasoning without CoT
brain4brain: Using diffusion to train the latent space more effectively
brain4brain: He revealed how to turn LLM from alchemy to chemistry
brain4brain: The dream was to dream with the LSD Ilya gave me
brain4brain: Bindu is fake, but r2 is real

It was revealed to me in a dream
.wolfnacht: wait R2! today ? fr ?, any source or u just saw the tweets of bindu reddy ?
brain4brain: R2, Intellect-2, and qwen-3 all on the same day


anathemaofmankind: Also I just noticed his tweet has a grammatical error with "though"
anathemaofmankind: Watch it be 5% better than o3 full high
literallyvarane: Feel like he’d have just named o4 if they intended to do it tbh. It’s GPT-5 is probably the o4 level model.
anathemaofmankind: When did he say they're not shipping o4?
literallyvarane: Calling it o4 mini is super memes if they don’t even intend to ship o4 tho
literallyvarane: I KNEW WE WOULD STILL GET O3 FUCK YALL
metaldragon01: Exciting April ahead of us
metaldragon01: Weeks/months
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/sama/status/1908167621624856998
futurist_wizard: It wouldn't have blundered like this
metaldragon01: https://x.com/sama/status/1908167790336651720
futurist_wizard: Gpt 4.5 has based policies
a1c4p0ne: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-tariffs-chatgpt-2055203
spicy.lemonade: If anything he’d fire lecun
spicy.lemonade: Zuckerberg is not a quitter
spicy.lemonade: They wouldn’t lol
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/zuckerberg-robot-zuckerberg-robot-gif-24762933
.wolfnacht:
theaiguy69420_89814: tariff bariff
retrerox: Yeah, it did it this way because i used your example
_cloudost: So scammers don't use this model to sell AI art as human art
_cloudost: Someone said these dots are added as a form of watermark
_cloudost: It still has WAY too much of these unnecessary dots
retrerox: Now the girl is a fuwwy
retrerox: its probably trying to interpret some art style
retrerox: I can see what you mean
_cloudost: This is the original AI drawing generated by chatGPT, could you remove the noise
_cloudost: Ig you're right
retrerox: It just made the floor "very good"
retrerox: i pasted your draw and just ask him to make him a dude
_cloudost: Why isn't there noise, strange, everytime I generate an image those gray/black dots appear everywhere on the drawing
retrerox: its noticable that is AI because the things are "too perfect"
retrerox: I ask him to make it into a dude
_cloudost: Made by human effort
_cloudost: And this is a redrawing of it
_cloudost: Feed it to chatgpt and this came out ( I added the text )
_cloudost: My drawing ( purely from my imagination )
clevermoniker: unless you can ask 4o itself or some other ai its probably hard to do
clevermoniker: i see, very interesting
_cloudost: Same tbh