<p>Bill mitchell explains it pretty well in this link.  For me the quickest answer is that paying interest on excess reserves achieves similar objectives as bond sales, more or less
<a href="http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=43017" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=43017</a></p>

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2022-12-27T23:58:38.320Z
Hi, thanks for the swift reply, I'll check your link out and come back to you if I need further clarification.
Pete Ferguson
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2022-12-28T00:11:41.357Z
Before, I read and reread Bill's post, doesn't creating even more money out of the blue on excess reserves interest on top of monetized deficit spending add even more money printing? Wouldn't the exchange rate suffer from such an unconventional policy, especially for a developing country? And who would set the interest rate on reserves?
Pete Ferguson
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2022-12-28T00:40:05.603Z
The interest rate on reserves is set by Fed policy in the US.  The policy of replacing bond sales by Fed deposits would create more inflation only if the holders of those deposits were more likely to spend money than if they owned Treasury bonds instead.  Which is sort of unclear.
dm63
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2022-12-28T00:52:07.513Z
Could developing countries do that without a risk for the exchange rate of their currency?
Pete Ferguson
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2022-12-28T13:53:24.557Z
It’s a rather hypothetical question.  I’d say it would be more difficult in a country where the central bank is not well trusted.
dm63
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dm63
<p>I think there is some confusion over how Government spending operationally occurs.  The below is a very high-level overview.</p>
<p>When monetarily-sovereign Governments spend on their priorities, they increase the level of bank reserves in the system.  In order to make payments to their final recipient (i.e. the seller of their good, service or labour), the banks that hold these reserve accounts at the central bank increase the deposits held by these sellers with each bank to match the increase in reserves.</p>
<p>The result is a seller with increased financial assets (in the form of bank deposits), a commercial bank with <em>both</em> increased liabilities (the deposits it now owes the seller) and increased assets (the reserves that the central bank credited them with initially when the Government spent), and a Treasury which is debited by the amount spent (putting it in &quot;overdraft&quot;).</p>
<p>Taxes reverse this process by draining both deposits and reserves.</p>
<p>However, if a Government runs a deficit and there are both excess deposits and excess reserves in the system, issuing Government bonds <em>only</em> mops up the excess reserves.</p>
<p>The additional deposits in bank accounts are still there and available for spending.</p>
<p>This is why issuing Government bonds is not to combat inflation but to address reserve liquidity and target a particular short-term interest rate (although there are questions as to the neccessity of this operation in high rate environments when debt interest represents a large transfer of financial assets from the bottom of the income distribution to the top).</p>

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Hi @Jamie Smith. Nice answer. Could you provide some references to this kinda monetary/fiscal interaction, please? I've often found it hard to find.
EB3112
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Hi @EB3112, thanks.  I've found this paper by UCL very enlightening: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/public-purpose/publications/2022/may/self-financing-state-institutional-analysis        Also, the GIMMS website has fantastic resources to edcuate people of all levels about monetary reality:   https://gimms.org.uk/
Jamie Smith
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Hi @ Jamie Smith. Great UCL reference! thanks
EB3112
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Jamie Smith
<p>Proponents of Modern Monetary Theory claim that bond sales are unnecessary and only help central banks set interest rates (which should be 0% anyway according to theory) and to provide safe interest-generating assets to investors. Yet according to the general principles of the theory, bond sales have a similar effect to taxation in removing money from the economy and keeping inflation under control. So I don't get why they claim issuing bonds is entirely pointless, it seems to me that they do add to a government's non-inflationay funding capacity. So what's the deal here?</p>

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MMT and bond sales
Pete Ferguson
# MMT and bond sales

(Asked by: username_0 on 2022-12-26)

Proponents of Modern Monetary Theory claim that bond sales are unnecessary and only help central banks set interest rates (which should be 0% anyway according to theory) and to provide safe interest-generating assets to investors. Yet according to the general principles of the theory, bond sales have a similar effect to taxation in removing money from the economy and keeping inflation under control. So I don't get why they claim issuing bonds is entirely pointless, it seems to me that they do add to a government's non-inflationay funding capacity. So what's the deal here?

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2022-12-27. Score: -1

Bill mitchell explains it pretty well in this link. For me the quickest answer is that paying interest on excess reserves achieves similar objectives as bond sales, more or less
<http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=43017>

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Hi, thanks for the swift reply, I'll check your link out and come back to you if I need further clarification.  
> **username_0**: Before, I read and reread Bill's post, doesn't creating even more money out of the blue on excess reserves interest on top of monetized deficit spending add even more money printing? Wouldn't the exchange rate suffer from such an unconventional policy, especially for a developing country? And who would set the interest rate on reserves?  
> **username_1**: The interest rate on reserves is set by Fed policy in the US.  The policy of replacing bond sales by Fed deposits would create more inflation only if the holders of those deposits were more likely to spend money than if they owned Treasury bonds instead.  Which is sort of unclear.  
> **username_0**: Could developing countries do that without a risk for the exchange rate of their currency?  
> **username_1**: It’s a rather hypothetical question.  I’d say it would be more difficult in a country where the central bank is not well trusted.  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2023-09-18. Score: -2

I think there is some confusion over how Government spending operationally occurs. The below is a very high-level overview.

When monetarily-sovereign Governments spend on their priorities, they increase the level of bank reserves in the system. In order to make payments to their final recipient (i.e. the seller of their good, service or labour), the banks that hold these reserve accounts at the central bank increase the deposits held by these sellers with each bank to match the increase in reserves.

The result is a seller with increased financial assets (in the form of bank deposits), a commercial bank with *both* increased liabilities (the deposits it now owes the seller) and increased assets (the reserves that the central bank credited them with initially when the Government spent), and a Treasury which is debited by the amount spent (putting it in "overdraft").

Taxes reverse this process by draining both deposits and reserves.

However, if a Government runs a deficit and there are both excess deposits and excess reserves in the system, issuing Government bonds *only* mops up the excess reserves.

The additional deposits in bank accounts are still there and available for spending.

This is why issuing Government bonds is not to combat inflation but to address reserve liquidity and target a particular short-term interest rate (although there are questions as to the neccessity of this operation in high rate environments when debt interest represents a large transfer of financial assets from the bottom of the income distribution to the top).

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: Hi @username_2. Nice answer. Could you provide some references to this kinda monetary/fiscal interaction, please? I've often found it hard to find.  
> **username_2**: Hi @username_3, thanks.  I've found this paper by UCL very enlightening: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/public-purpose/publications/2022/may/self-financing-state-institutional-analysis        Also, the GIMMS website has fantastic resources to edcuate people of all levels about monetary reality:   https://gimms.org.uk/  
> **username_3**: Hi @ username_2. Great UCL reference! thanks  

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