<p>No you are not. Preferences determine the equilibrium, even if they are identical, because they determine the <em>value</em> of the endowments.</p>

<p>Consider two agents, one ("A") having ice cream only, and one ("B") having lava only.</p>

<p><strong>Case 1: Both hate lava</strong></p>

<p>Assume lava burns tongues and is useless (typical Economist). Then, the initial endowments of <em>B</em> have zero value, as no one wants them. The equilibrium allocation equals the initial allocation.</p>

<p><strong>Case 2: Both find lava useful</strong></p>

<p>Now, imagine lava being useful for lava lamps (whatever). They still have identical preferences, but now they attach some positive value to lava. The value of <em>B</em>'s initial endowment has changed, and hence he can trade at least some of it for ice cream. The equilibrium allocation no longer equals the initial allocation.</p>

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Hi thanks, it make sense, what if the consumers treat both goods equally valuable? Or example, U(x,y)=xy for both consumers, can I say the endowment alone determined the price?
Bob
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@Bob no, the statement is still false. Take $U(x,y) = xy$ and  $U'(x,y) = x + y$. In the second case the equilibrium price ratio is always one, but in the first case it is only one if the endowment vector is symmetric.
Giskard
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@Bob fundamentaly, we get to the equilibrium from initial endowments through trades. These trades depend on the evaluation of the initial endowments, and the evaluation of the potential outcomes. These evaluations always depend on the preferences.
FooBar
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<p>Am I right to say in an Exchange Economy with two consumers with identical preferences, the equilibrium price (WEA) of the two goods would be determined by availability of two goods, i.e, total endowment? 
Whereas if their preferences are not identical, this is not true, the equilibrium(WEA) would be determined by utility functions and endowments together?</p>

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Price ratio determined by endowments only?
Bob
# Price ratio determined by endowments only?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2015-08-03)

Am I right to say in an Exchange Economy with two consumers with identical preferences, the equilibrium price (WEA) of the two goods would be determined by availability of two goods, i.e, total endowment?
Whereas if their preferences are not identical, this is not true, the equilibrium(WEA) would be determined by utility functions and endowments together?

**Tags:** microeconomics, general-equilibrium, pure-exchange-economy


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### Answer by username_1 on 2015-08-03. Score: 3 | Accepted answer

No you are not. Preferences determine the equilibrium, even if they are identical, because they determine the *value* of the endowments.

Consider two agents, one ("A") having ice cream only, and one ("B") having lava only.

**Case 1: Both hate lava**

Assume lava burns tongues and is useless (typical Economist). Then, the initial endowments of *B* have zero value, as no one wants them. The equilibrium allocation equals the initial allocation.

**Case 2: Both find lava useful**

Now, imagine lava being useful for lava lamps (whatever). They still have identical preferences, but now they attach some positive value to lava. The value of *B*'s initial endowment has changed, and hence he can trade at least some of it for ice cream. The equilibrium allocation no longer equals the initial allocation.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Hi thanks, it make sense, what if the consumers treat both goods equally valuable? Or example, U(x,y)=xy for both consumers, can I say the endowment alone determined the price?  
> **username_2**: @username_0 no, the statement is still false. Take $U(x,y) = xy$ and  $U'(x,y) = x + y$. In the second case the equilibrium price ratio is always one, but in the first case it is only one if the endowment vector is symmetric.  
> **username_1**: @username_0 fundamentaly, we get to the equilibrium from initial endowments through trades. These trades depend on the evaluation of the initial endowments, and the evaluation of the potential outcomes. These evaluations always depend on the preferences.  

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