<p>Re: "You could say this is 'creating' money" - no you couldn't. This would be conflating money and wealth. Wealth can be created without new money being created - indeed wealth was created before money even existed. Conversely money can be created without creating wealth. So they are entirely separate things. A crude analogy: wealth is to money as apples are to numbers. You can count apples using numbers, but growing new apples does not create new numbers.</p>

<p>With regard "In the end logically, this money becomes concentrated in a few people." - not true. People don't earn money in order to collect big piles of it and spend all day counting it. Instead they use it to buy stuff which means that the money circulates through the rest of the economy.</p>

<p>With regard "How is it the United States can still grow, despite sending more money out than it takes in?"... it doesn't send out more money than in takes in (at least not to any great extent). Foreigners do not accumulate great piles of dollars that they earned from selling American's stuff - instead they use their dollars to buy American assets, like US government bonds.</p>

<p>With regard how money is created, please be aware that this is a controversial area and there is a huge amount of misinformation on this subject. The best document to read that I know of on the subject of money creation is <a href="http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/Documents/quarterlybulletin/2014/qb14q102.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">this one published in the Bank of England Quarterly bulletin</a> in 2014.</p>

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Mick
<p>The title of this question currently is "How is Money Created?" This question does not appear to reflect the intent of the question, I think it should be "How are profits created?" "Money" has a technical meaning in economics, and the usage in the question does not reflect that technical meaning. (There are other questions on banking and reserves creation on this site that discuss how money is created.)</p>

<p>In a monetary economy, there is an accounting identity (Kalecki profit equation, from Michal Kalecki) which states:</p>

<p><em>Gross profits net of taxes = (Gross investment) + (Export surplus) + (Governmental budget deficit) - (Workers' savings) + (Capitalist consumption).</em></p>

<p>(Taken from "Profits: The Views of Jerome Levy and Michal Kalecki", by S. Jay Levy, <a href="http://www.levyinstitute.org/publications/profits" rel="nofollow noreferrer">link to Levy Institute web page</a>.)</p>

<p>The accounting identity is simplified relative to the full national accounts, and can be rearranged in various ways. Importantly, an accounting identity is a statement that is true by definition, it is not based on a model that reflects assumptions which may or may not reflect reality.</p>

<p>Under normal circumstances, the economy is growing in nominal terms, and there are large contributions to this equation from gross investment and the budget deficit. Export-led growth countries, like China now, get large contributions from a trade surplus.</p>

<p>Your questions:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>In order for that company to work, they have to make a profit which
  means they have to take more money than they are giving.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>As seen above, aggregate profits are driven by various sources of money inflows to the business sector that are not expenses. Importantly, gross investment is a cash outflow that does not directly result in an expense. (Depreciation comes with a lag.) Therefore, firms can run profits without requiring others to have losses. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>In the end logically, this money becomes concentrated in a few people.
  If this is the case, on the broadest level, how is it that standards
  of living increase?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Investment and new skills (technology) allow for greater output, which is what causes standards of living to increase.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Isn't it inevitable that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer,
  with money being concentrated in fewer and fewer people over time? And
  if that is the case, won't capitalism eventually fall apart, with
  fewer and fewer people being able to purchase goods? If not, how is
  this corrected?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>This was an argument of Thomas Piketty's "Capital." I cannot hope to answer that debate here.</p>

<p>However, the process is not inevitable. The 1920s was a period of increasing inequality in the United States (and elsewhere), but that was reversed by the 1950s. Inequality is a question of political economy.</p>

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Brian Romanchuk
<p>I understand your dilemma. Ill try to solve it simply with an example. I tutor  students every day at a price of 25 dollars per hour. After the lesson, both me and my student are better off than we were before. This is because in my view, the 25 dollars are worth more than the hour i used and in my students view, the knowledge gained from my one hour was worth more than his 25dollars (otherwise, he would not schedule any more lessons). We both leave winners and better off than we were before. He is better off by the amount (value of the knowledge-25 dollars)and i am better off by the amount (25 dollars-value of my hour spent elsewhere). The economy as a whole is better off by the amount ( value of the knowledge gained- value of my hour spent elsewhere) (this value is obviously positive or the transaction would not have taken place). In short, value was created. Notice also how the dollar amount in the economy did not change (25dollars just changed hands), and the economy is not better by some amount of paper money but buy value in other forms.</p>

<p>Realize that for a producer to make a certain profit, some consumer, somewhere, must have also made a certain profit. (These are the principles of consumer and producer surplus and one cannot exist without the other). </p>

<p>Now, where i think you have gone wrong is in your thoughts about paper money. Say instead, i make 10000 cars out of iron that i mined and processed into steel. Also, 10000 people also each make 1 of various items in the same way (tv's, radio's, cell phones etc...). I will trade each car with each person to acquire each good. In the end, each one of us is better off because they traded their item for one of my cars (which they deemed was more valuable than their item) And I did the same but in the opposite direction. We will obviously agree that i got much richer and my standard of living will be much better than if i only had 10000 cars (or even nothing if i produced nothing), but the point here is that the poor man who only built a single radio is also better off by the amount (His valuation of the car-his valuation of the time he spent building the radio) We all got richer and no one got poorer. </p>

<p>Now the generalization: </p>

<p>For Steve jobs to make 1 000 000 000$, 1 00 000 people had to acquire iPads. And everyone is better because of it. </p>

<p>In short, in a free market with nothing but capitalism, there can be no such thing as 'wealth hoarding' because, as I've said repeatedly, for the rich to get richer, the poor have to get richer as well. </p>

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Anthony B
<p>Money <strong>is</strong> created out of thin air. </p>

<p>Almost all countries on the earth have implemented <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional-reserve_banking" rel="nofollow noreferrer">fractional-reserve banking system.</a> This means that a bank only needs to hold a fraction of the money they lend out. </p>

<p>Example: If you deposit 100 dollars in your bank, the bank may lend out your 100 dollars x 10 times (10% reserve requirement), thus creating 900 dollars <em>out of thin air</em>.</p>

<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/VJKW9.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/VJKW9.png" alt="enter image description here"></a></p>

<p>This system is absolutely genius: When there is a demand for money, money will be created. When wealth is created money is created.</p>

<p>Example: If you build a house with you bare hands, you would create wealth. A bank would now be willing to give you a loan using your house as safety deposit. </p>

<p>Mark Zuckerberg did not take his money from other people. He created a new technology and thus created a demand for money and money was created. Very smart system if you ask me. </p>

<p>The rich are getting richer because having money generates money through interests and investments. </p>

<p>Being poor is expensive. You'll have to pay interests on your mortgage, student debt, your car and so on. </p>

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On the wikipedia page there is a section "Criticisms of textbook descriptions of the monetary system". It is accepted amongst central bankers (the people that run the system) that the relending description you gave is false. Having said that, it is still true that private banks create most of our money out of thin air.
Mick
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So what I said is both true and false. Hmm...
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Vingtoft
<p>This might seem like a really simple question, but I am really troubled by it on a macro scale. The money has to come from somewhere. Someone might start up a business that creates things or takes things from the Earth. You could say this is "creating" money, but I argue it isn't, or I am missing something.</p>

<p>Here is how I see it. In order for that company to work, they have to make a profit which means they have to take more money than they are giving. This is the way all companies work. In the end logically, this money becomes concentrated in a few people. If this is the case, on the broadest level, how is it that standards of living increase? Isn't it inevitable that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, with money being concentrated in fewer and fewer people over time? And if that is the case, won't capitalism eventually fall apart, with fewer and fewer people being able to purchase goods? If not, how is this corrected? Is there a way the rich can get richer with the poor also getting richer (which means money is magically coming out of thin air)? (The buying power of the poor becomes less as the amount of money they possess lessens; the opposite being true of the rich) (Poor = possessing small monetary volume; rich = large monetary volume)</p>

<p>I also have a similar question with trade deficits. How is it the United States can still grow, despite sending more money out than it takes in? Perhaps the answer to this question will solve the one above.</p>

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I'm just under the impression that if someone gets richer, someone, somewhere in the world has to get poorer, in terms of pure monetary wealth. Is this not the case?
Josiah Savoie
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You seem to be confusing the concepts of money and wealth.
Giskard
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Understood, I realize that wealth takes into account more than just money. Wealth is the sum of the worth of all of someone's possessions. However, the same question I feel applies to both. How do money and wealth not become more concentrated over time, not hurting the whole?
Josiah Savoie
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"In order for that company to work, they have to make a profit which means they have to take more money than they are giving." So a farmer would not be able to grow anything on his land, because you cannot create wealth out of nothing?
Giskard
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That's exactly the dilemma I'm stuck with. How is it possible that everyone can make a profit? It doesn't seem possible. Perhaps instead it is translated into more money being moved for product (inflation), or the value of a currency increasing?
Josiah Savoie
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Perhaps I'm thinking too scientifically. To me, for every gain, there has to be a loss. Matter can't just be created out of nothing.
Josiah Savoie
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Again, what are you talking about, money or wealth? Obviously profit is not just money. And it seems from my example that wealth can be created 'out of nothing'. Please edit your question to make it very clear what you mean, as currently it seems that if you would perhaps formulate it better you may see the answer yourself. (To whichever question you are asking. I am honestly no longer sure.)
Giskard
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Well, no, I don't think that money is being created from nothing by the farmer. He is growing something, and making more money off of it than he is giving to other people. Therefore, he is taking money. How can everyone make more money than they are giving?
Josiah Savoie
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Please see my first comment. Then please edit your question for clarity.
Giskard
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I changed two uses of the word "wealth" in exchange for "money."
Josiah Savoie
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Sorry but I think we are running in circles so I am going to give up. You may find [this question](http://economics.stackexchange.com/questions/6544/how-do-economies-grow?noredirect=1&lq=1) and its answers useful.
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How is money created?
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# How is money created?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-03-20)

This might seem like a really simple question, but I am really troubled by it on a macro scale. The money has to come from somewhere. Someone might start up a business that creates things or takes things from the Earth. You could say this is "creating" money, but I argue it isn't, or I am missing something.

Here is how I see it. In order for that company to work, they have to make a profit which means they have to take more money than they are giving. This is the way all companies work. In the end logically, this money becomes concentrated in a few people. If this is the case, on the broadest level, how is it that standards of living increase? Isn't it inevitable that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, with money being concentrated in fewer and fewer people over time? And if that is the case, won't capitalism eventually fall apart, with fewer and fewer people being able to purchase goods? If not, how is this corrected? Is there a way the rich can get richer with the poor also getting richer (which means money is magically coming out of thin air)? (The buying power of the poor becomes less as the amount of money they possess lessens; the opposite being true of the rich) (Poor = possessing small monetary volume; rich = large monetary volume)

I also have a similar question with trade deficits. How is it the United States can still grow, despite sending more money out than it takes in? Perhaps the answer to this question will solve the one above.

**Tags:** macroeconomics, economic-growth, inequality, wealth

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: I'm just under the impression that if someone gets richer, someone, somewhere in the world has to get poorer, in terms of pure monetary wealth. Is this not the case?  
> **username_1**: You seem to be confusing the concepts of money and wealth.  
> **username_0**: Understood, I realize that wealth takes into account more than just money. Wealth is the sum of the worth of all of someone's possessions. However, the same question I feel applies to both. How do money and wealth not become more concentrated over time, not hurting the whole?  
> **username_1**: "In order for that company to work, they have to make a profit which means they have to take more money than they are giving." So a farmer would not be able to grow anything on his land, because you cannot create wealth out of nothing?  
> **username_0**: That's exactly the dilemma I'm stuck with. How is it possible that everyone can make a profit? It doesn't seem possible. Perhaps instead it is translated into more money being moved for product (inflation), or the value of a currency increasing?  
> **username_0**: Perhaps I'm thinking too scientifically. To me, for every gain, there has to be a loss. Matter can't just be created out of nothing.  
> **username_1**: Again, what are you talking about, money or wealth? Obviously profit is not just money. And it seems from my example that wealth can be created 'out of nothing'. Please edit your question to make it very clear what you mean, as currently it seems that if you would perhaps formulate it better you may see the answer yourself. (To whichever question you are asking. I am honestly no longer sure.)  
> **username_0**: Well, no, I don't think that money is being created from nothing by the farmer. He is growing something, and making more money off of it than he is giving to other people. Therefore, he is taking money. How can everyone make more money than they are giving?  
> **username_1**: Please see my first comment. Then please edit your question for clarity.  
> **username_0**: I changed two uses of the word "wealth" in exchange for "money."  
> **username_1**: Sorry but I think we are running in circles so I am going to give up. You may find [this question](http://economics.stackexchange.com/questions/6544/how-do-economies-grow?noredirect=1&lq=1) and its answers useful.  

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## 4 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2017-03-29. Score: 3

Re: "You could say this is 'creating' money" - no you couldn't. This would be conflating money and wealth. Wealth can be created without new money being created - indeed wealth was created before money even existed. Conversely money can be created without creating wealth. So they are entirely separate things. A crude analogy: wealth is to money as apples are to numbers. You can count apples using numbers, but growing new apples does not create new numbers.

With regard "In the end logically, this money becomes concentrated in a few people." - not true. People don't earn money in order to collect big piles of it and spend all day counting it. Instead they use it to buy stuff which means that the money circulates through the rest of the economy.

With regard "How is it the United States can still grow, despite sending more money out than it takes in?"... it doesn't send out more money than in takes in (at least not to any great extent). Foreigners do not accumulate great piles of dollars that they earned from selling American's stuff - instead they use their dollars to buy American assets, like US government bonds.

With regard how money is created, please be aware that this is a controversial area and there is a huge amount of misinformation on this subject. The best document to read that I know of on the subject of money creation is [this one published in the Bank of England Quarterly bulletin](http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/Documents/quarterlybulletin/2014/qb14q102.pdf) in 2014.


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### Answer by username_3 on 2017-04-23. Score: 2

The title of this question currently is "How is Money Created?" This question does not appear to reflect the intent of the question, I think it should be "How are profits created?" "Money" has a technical meaning in economics, and the usage in the question does not reflect that technical meaning. (There are other questions on banking and reserves creation on this site that discuss how money is created.)

In a monetary economy, there is an accounting identity (Kalecki profit equation, from Michal Kalecki) which states:

*Gross profits net of taxes = (Gross investment) + (Export surplus) + (Governmental budget deficit) - (Workers' savings) + (Capitalist consumption).*

(Taken from "Profits: The Views of Jerome Levy and Michal Kalecki", by S. Jay Levy, [link to Levy Institute web page](http://www.levyinstitute.org/publications/profits).)

The accounting identity is simplified relative to the full national accounts, and can be rearranged in various ways. Importantly, an accounting identity is a statement that is true by definition, it is not based on a model that reflects assumptions which may or may not reflect reality.

Under normal circumstances, the economy is growing in nominal terms, and there are large contributions to this equation from gross investment and the budget deficit. Export-led growth countries, like China now, get large contributions from a trade surplus.

Your questions:

> In order for that company to work, they have to make a profit which
> means they have to take more money than they are giving.

As seen above, aggregate profits are driven by various sources of money inflows to the business sector that are not expenses. Importantly, gross investment is a cash outflow that does not directly result in an expense. (Depreciation comes with a lag.) Therefore, firms can run profits without requiring others to have losses.

> In the end logically, this money becomes concentrated in a few people.
> If this is the case, on the broadest level, how is it that standards
> of living increase?

Investment and new skills (technology) allow for greater output, which is what causes standards of living to increase.

> Isn't it inevitable that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer,
> with money being concentrated in fewer and fewer people over time? And
> if that is the case, won't capitalism eventually fall apart, with
> fewer and fewer people being able to purchase goods? If not, how is
> this corrected?

This was an argument of Thomas Piketty's "Capital." I cannot hope to answer that debate here.

However, the process is not inevitable. The 1920s was a period of increasing inequality in the United States (and elsewhere), but that was reversed by the 1950s. Inequality is a question of political economy.


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### Answer by username_4 on 2017-03-20. Score: 1

I understand your dilemma. Ill try to solve it simply with an example. I tutor students every day at a price of 25 dollars per hour. After the lesson, both me and my student are better off than we were before. This is because in my view, the 25 dollars are worth more than the hour i used and in my students view, the knowledge gained from my one hour was worth more than his 25dollars (otherwise, he would not schedule any more lessons). We both leave winners and better off than we were before. He is better off by the amount (value of the knowledge-25 dollars)and i am better off by the amount (25 dollars-value of my hour spent elsewhere). The economy as a whole is better off by the amount ( value of the knowledge gained- value of my hour spent elsewhere) (this value is obviously positive or the transaction would not have taken place). In short, value was created. Notice also how the dollar amount in the economy did not change (25dollars just changed hands), and the economy is not better by some amount of paper money but buy value in other forms.

Realize that for a producer to make a certain profit, some consumer, somewhere, must have also made a certain profit. (These are the principles of consumer and producer surplus and one cannot exist without the other).

Now, where i think you have gone wrong is in your thoughts about paper money. Say instead, i make 10000 cars out of iron that i mined and processed into steel. Also, 10000 people also each make 1 of various items in the same way (tv's, radio's, cell phones etc...). I will trade each car with each person to acquire each good. In the end, each one of us is better off because they traded their item for one of my cars (which they deemed was more valuable than their item) And I did the same but in the opposite direction. We will obviously agree that i got much richer and my standard of living will be much better than if i only had 10000 cars (or even nothing if i produced nothing), but the point here is that the poor man who only built a single radio is also better off by the amount (His valuation of the car-his valuation of the time he spent building the radio) We all got richer and no one got poorer.

Now the generalization:

For Steve jobs to make 1 000 000 000$, 1 00 000 people had to acquire iPads. And everyone is better because of it.

In short, in a free market with nothing but capitalism, there can be no such thing as 'wealth hoarding' because, as I've said repeatedly, for the rich to get richer, the poor have to get richer as well.


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### Answer by username_5 on 2017-03-28. Score: -3

Money **is** created out of thin air.

Almost all countries on the earth have implemented [fractional-reserve banking system.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional-reserve_banking) This means that a bank only needs to hold a fraction of the money they lend out.

Example: If you deposit 100 dollars in your bank, the bank may lend out your 100 dollars x 10 times (10% reserve requirement), thus creating 900 dollars *out of thin air*.

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/VJKW9.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/VJKW9.png)

This system is absolutely genius: When there is a demand for money, money will be created. When wealth is created money is created.

Example: If you build a house with you bare hands, you would create wealth. A bank would now be willing to give you a loan using your house as safety deposit.

Mark Zuckerberg did not take his money from other people. He created a new technology and thus created a demand for money and money was created. Very smart system if you ask me.

The rich are getting richer because having money generates money through interests and investments.

Being poor is expensive. You'll have to pay interests on your mortgage, student debt, your car and so on.

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: On the wikipedia page there is a section "Criticisms of textbook descriptions of the monetary system". It is accepted amongst central bankers (the people that run the system) that the relending description you gave is false. Having said that, it is still true that private banks create most of our money out of thin air.  
> **username_5**: So what I said is both true and false. Hmm...  

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