<p>I contacted CoinKite support and they were extremely helpful. If you were dumb enough to not follow their guidance in their documentation and made this same mistake, then hopefully this solution helps you too.</p>
<p>In order to import a proper wallet into Electrum (or a wallet system that supports Electrum style wallets such as Blue Wallet), follow these steps on the ColdCard:</p>
<ol>
<li>Export your wallet from ColdCard as an Electrum wallet and pick the Legacy option (<a href="https://coldcard.com/docs/quick#skeleton" rel="nofollow noreferrer">MicroSD -&gt; Export Wallet</a>)</li>
<li>This creates a JSON file on your MicroSD card called <code>new-wallet.json</code> (or if you've exported multiple wallets, it may be <code>new-wallet2.json</code>, etc.</li>
<li>Open that <code>new-wallet.json</code> in a text editor and you'll see content like the following (note I sanitized these values for privacy but you can see the structure):</li>
</ol>
<pre><code>{
    &quot;keystore&quot;: {
        &quot;ckcc_xpub&quot;: &quot;xpub&lt;ckcc_xpub value&gt;&quot;,
        &quot;xpub&quot;: &quot;xpub&lt;xpub value&gt;&quot;,
        &quot;label&quot;: &quot;Coldcard Import &lt;id&gt;&quot;,
        &quot;ckcc_xfp&quot;: 1234,
        &quot;type&quot;: &quot;hardware&quot;,
        &quot;hw_type&quot;: &quot;coldcard&quot;,
        &quot;derivation&quot;: &quot;m/44'/0'/0'&quot;
    },
    &quot;wallet_type&quot;: &quot;standard&quot;,
    &quot;use_encryption&quot;: false,
    &quot;seed_version&quot;: 12
}
</code></pre>
<ol start="4">
<li>CoinKite support instructed me to copy the value from <code>ckcc_xpub</code> onto <code>xpub</code> (replacing it, so now both are same) and then also change <code>derivation</code> to just <code>&quot;m&quot;</code>. This results in JSON like this:</li>
</ol>
<pre><code>{
    &quot;keystore&quot;: {
        &quot;ckcc_xpub&quot;: &quot;xpub&lt;ckcc_xpub value&gt;&quot;,
        &quot;xpub&quot;: &quot;xpub&lt;ckcc_xpub value&gt;&quot;,
        &quot;label&quot;: &quot;Coldcard Import &lt;id&gt;&quot;,
        &quot;ckcc_xfp&quot;: 1234,
        &quot;type&quot;: &quot;hardware&quot;,
        &quot;hw_type&quot;: &quot;coldcard&quot;,
        &quot;derivation&quot;: &quot;m&quot;
    },
    &quot;wallet_type&quot;: &quot;standard&quot;,
    &quot;use_encryption&quot;: false,
    &quot;seed_version&quot;: 12
}
</code></pre>
<ol start="5">
<li>I then imported this wallet into Blue Wallet and I could see my transaction history!</li>
</ol>
<p>From this point, you can follow the instructions in the ColdCard documentation to create a PSBT in your wallet app, sign it on the ColdCard, and then finalize it on your wallet app. See the <a href="https://coldcard.com/docs/quick" rel="nofollow noreferrer">ColdCard Quick Start guide for those details</a>.</p>

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2022-03-04T02:17:57.967Z
BearsEars
<p>First off: No, please do not enter your seed/private key into electrum.</p>
<p>You've sent your funds to <em>legacy</em> addresses. Your funds will be recoverable although it may require some more diving to do.
<a href="https://coldcard.com/docs/address-explorer" rel="nofollow noreferrer">This article</a> mentions the exact scenario - with warning on the exact thing you did. Hopefully this helps.</p>

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2022-03-01T23:48:18.330Z
Yes, thank you that does describe the situation I'm in I think but it doesn't seem to describe how to correct it.
BearsEars
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2022-03-02T00:05:11.397Z
Also, I'd obviously prefer to not expose my private key to my computer but if I did import it into Electrum, would that allow me to see the funds sent to these addresses and sign transactions to send them out elsewhere?
BearsEars
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2022-03-02T00:09:26.300Z
of course if you export your priv key, you should be able to control the funds but your issue is perhaps the derivation path that you need to find out. I would suggest contact the coinkite support telling them your situation and asking for the next steps(I think you just need to find out what the derivation path for that address is, the one where you sent sats - and then connect your coldcard with that)
t480625
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I actually have an email out to their support already. I know the exact set of addresses I sent to and the derivation paths (i.e. m/0/0, m/0/1, etc)
BearsEars
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Those derivation paths (BIP32 style) have been deprecated for a long time. How did you get there?
HansBKK
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@HansBKK not OP, but if I go to the address explorer on CC, I see two addresses starting with `1` - I didn't send any funds to it but I too am unable to locate it on electrum (i.e. when I try seeing the addresses on electrum connected to CC - I tried with loading the CC on electrum with different derivation paths but still can't see one of the `1` address that is displayed on the CC's address explorer.)
t480625
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@HansBKK Yes in CC's Address Explorer, you can pick between 2 addresses that begin with 1 (legacy addresses). If you pick the first one (at least in my case), this gives you the BIP32 style addresses.
BearsEars
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t480625
<p><strong>The Setup</strong></p>
<p>I purchased a genuine ColdCard, verified its authenticity, set it up, backed up my key and all that good stuff. I then wanted to transfer some BTC from an exchange but I was being paranoid and did not want to even connect a MicroSD from my computer to my ColdCard so in order to get the address to send my BTC to, I did the following from the ColdCard:</p>
<p><code>Advanced -&gt; Address Explorer</code> and then I picked the first address that showed up out of the 4 options. This first and second address both began with <code>1</code> which I now think means it is a &quot;Legacy&quot; type address (but I didn't know that at the time). The addresses I picked (the first option) also use the derivation path of m/0/0, m/0/1, m/0/2, etc. so I think this means they are BIP 32 addresses.</p>
<p>Now I do have a watch-only wallet that I created in Electrum by just importing the raw addresses from my ColdCard via QR codes so I can see the transactions that came to my ColdCard. However, I am now trying to move them out to another address and I'm struggling...</p>
<p><strong>The Problem</strong></p>
<p>The issue is that when I export my Electrum wallet from ColdCard, even when I select the &quot;Legacy&quot; option, the addresses is shows start with derivation paths m/44'0'/0'/0/0, m/44'0'/0'/0/1, m/44'0'/0'/0/2 (so I think these are BIP 44 addresses).</p>
<p>As I mentioned above, I want to spend these funds / transfer them out to a different wallet but I now appear to be stuck...</p>
<p>Since my exported &quot;Electrum&quot; wallet from the ColdCard doesn't include the BIP 32 addresses, I cannot see my transactions sent to those BIP 32 addresses in that wallet so I also cannot create an unsigned transaction (AFAIK) for those funds.</p>
<p>I tried creating an unsigned transaction from my watch-only wallet in Electrum and I can create one and export it as a PSBT (at least it looks like one... I am not sure how to independently validate it). Unfortunately, when I import that PSBT into the ColdCard and use the &quot;Ready to Sign!&quot; option, it fails to sign it with the following error:</p>
<pre><code>Failure
We require subpaths to be specified in the PSBT
</code></pre>
<p>How do I spend funds that were sent to my ColdCard via BIP 32 addresses? Do I need to load my private key into Electrum (and thus not be air-gapped) or is there some other reasonable option? This has been quite frustrating and I'm kicking myself for not exporting the Electrum Skeleton Wallet first...</p>
<p>My ColdCard firmware is <code>3.1.9</code></p>

<electrum><coldcard>
Sent funds to ColdCard BIP 32 address, how can I transfer them out to a different address?
BearsEars
# Sent funds to ColdCard BIP 32 address, how can I transfer them out to a different address?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2022-03-01)

**The Setup**

I purchased a genuine ColdCard, verified its authenticity, set it up, backed up my key and all that good stuff. I then wanted to transfer some BTC from an exchange but I was being paranoid and did not want to even connect a MicroSD from my computer to my ColdCard so in order to get the address to send my BTC to, I did the following from the ColdCard:

`Advanced -> Address Explorer` and then I picked the first address that showed up out of the 4 options. This first and second address both began with `1` which I now think means it is a "Legacy" type address (but I didn't know that at the time). The addresses I picked (the first option) also use the derivation path of m/0/0, m/0/1, m/0/2, etc. so I think this means they are BIP 32 addresses.

Now I do have a watch-only wallet that I created in Electrum by just importing the raw addresses from my ColdCard via QR codes so I can see the transactions that came to my ColdCard. However, I am now trying to move them out to another address and I'm struggling...

**The Problem**

The issue is that when I export my Electrum wallet from ColdCard, even when I select the "Legacy" option, the addresses is shows start with derivation paths m/44'0'/0'/0/0, m/44'0'/0'/0/1, m/44'0'/0'/0/2 (so I think these are BIP 44 addresses).

As I mentioned above, I want to spend these funds / transfer them out to a different wallet but I now appear to be stuck...

Since my exported "Electrum" wallet from the ColdCard doesn't include the BIP 32 addresses, I cannot see my transactions sent to those BIP 32 addresses in that wallet so I also cannot create an unsigned transaction (AFAIK) for those funds.

I tried creating an unsigned transaction from my watch-only wallet in Electrum and I can create one and export it as a PSBT (at least it looks like one... I am not sure how to independently validate it). Unfortunately, when I import that PSBT into the ColdCard and use the "Ready to Sign!" option, it fails to sign it with the following error:

```
Failure
We require subpaths to be specified in the PSBT

```

How do I spend funds that were sent to my ColdCard via BIP 32 addresses? Do I need to load my private key into Electrum (and thus not be air-gapped) or is there some other reasonable option? This has been quite frustrating and I'm kicking myself for not exporting the Electrum Skeleton Wallet first...

My ColdCard firmware is `3.1.9`

**Tags:** electrum, coldcard


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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_0 on 2022-03-04. Score: 0 | Accepted answer

I contacted CoinKite support and they were extremely helpful. If you were dumb enough to not follow their guidance in their documentation and made this same mistake, then hopefully this solution helps you too.

In order to import a proper wallet into Electrum (or a wallet system that supports Electrum style wallets such as Blue Wallet), follow these steps on the ColdCard:

1. Export your wallet from ColdCard as an Electrum wallet and pick the Legacy option ([MicroSD -> Export Wallet](https://coldcard.com/docs/quick#skeleton))
2. This creates a JSON file on your MicroSD card called `new-wallet.json` (or if you've exported multiple wallets, it may be `new-wallet2.json`, etc.
3. Open that `new-wallet.json` in a text editor and you'll see content like the following (note I sanitized these values for privacy but you can see the structure):

```
{
    "keystore": {
        "ckcc_xpub": "xpub<ckcc_xpub value>",
        "xpub": "xpub<xpub value>",
        "label": "Coldcard Import <id>",
        "ckcc_xfp": 1234,
        "type": "hardware",
        "hw_type": "coldcard",
        "derivation": "m/44'/0'/0'"
    },
    "wallet_type": "standard",
    "use_encryption": false,
    "seed_version": 12
}

```

4. CoinKite support instructed me to copy the value from `ckcc_xpub` onto `xpub` (replacing it, so now both are same) and then also change `derivation` to just `"m"`. This results in JSON like this:

```
{
    "keystore": {
        "ckcc_xpub": "xpub<ckcc_xpub value>",
        "xpub": "xpub<ckcc_xpub value>",
        "label": "Coldcard Import <id>",
        "ckcc_xfp": 1234,
        "type": "hardware",
        "hw_type": "coldcard",
        "derivation": "m"
    },
    "wallet_type": "standard",
    "use_encryption": false,
    "seed_version": 12
}

```

5. I then imported this wallet into Blue Wallet and I could see my transaction history!

From this point, you can follow the instructions in the ColdCard documentation to create a PSBT in your wallet app, sign it on the ColdCard, and then finalize it on your wallet app. See the [ColdCard Quick Start guide for those details](https://coldcard.com/docs/quick).


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### Answer by username_1 on 2022-03-01. Score: 0

First off: No, please do not enter your seed/private key into electrum.

You've sent your funds to *legacy* addresses. Your funds will be recoverable although it may require some more diving to do.
[This article](https://coldcard.com/docs/address-explorer) mentions the exact scenario - with warning on the exact thing you did. Hopefully this helps.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Yes, thank you that does describe the situation I'm in I think but it doesn't seem to describe how to correct it.  
> **username_0**: Also, I'd obviously prefer to not expose my private key to my computer but if I did import it into Electrum, would that allow me to see the funds sent to these addresses and sign transactions to send them out elsewhere?  
> **username_1**: of course if you export your priv key, you should be able to control the funds but your issue is perhaps the derivation path that you need to find out. I would suggest contact the coinkite support telling them your situation and asking for the next steps(I think you just need to find out what the derivation path for that address is, the one where you sent sats - and then connect your coldcard with that)  
> **username_0**: I actually have an email out to their support already. I know the exact set of addresses I sent to and the derivation paths (i.e. m/0/0, m/0/1, etc)  
> **username_2**: Those derivation paths (BIP32 style) have been deprecated for a long time. How did you get there?  
> **username_1**: @username_2 not OP, but if I go to the address explorer on CC, I see two addresses starting with `1` - I didn't send any funds to it but I too am unable to locate it on electrum (i.e. when I try seeing the addresses on electrum connected to CC - I tried with loading the CC on electrum with different derivation paths but still can't see one of the `1` address that is displayed on the CC's address explorer.)  
> **username_0**: @username_2 Yes in CC's Address Explorer, you can pick between 2 addresses that begin with 1 (legacy addresses). If you pick the first one (at least in my case), this gives you the BIP32 style addresses.  

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