<p>You can just accept the cryptocurrencies directly, there are Bitcoin plugins for many shopping carts. The spying and KYC/AML often comes into it because of the fiat side.</p>

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2016-06-03T09:22:16.533Z
2016-06-03T09:22:16.533Z
Нонн Болдырев
<p>You might try Coin Cafe.  They do have KYC, but they are smaller so I doubt they have the resources or motivation to track your purchases unless specifically requested to.</p>

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2016-06-11T16:30:38.723Z
2016-06-11T16:30:38.723Z
Digital Galaxy
<p>You need solutions without third parties or decentral solutions for privacy because central/third parties are regulated or might be corrupt with your data. A good payment processor without third party involvement is btcpayserver.org . It manages BTC (plus lightning plus litecoin) payments fully automatized. In case you want to exchange it into fiat without a central party having knowledge about I'd recommend bisq.network . The bank can see of course the fiat transfer but has no clue about the payment reason. So far this 2nd step isn't working automatically, however the DAO (decentralized autonomous organisation) bisq is working on an API. bisq transactions in the blockchain are difficult to trace because they are like payjoin transactions.</p>

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2021-06-26T10:16:11.577Z
2021-06-26T10:16:11.577Z
tempo
<p>Privacy-wise the only way to go is to <strong>self-host</strong> payment processing. Fortunately, as of 2021 good end-to-end open source solutions are available:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://btcpayserver.org/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://btcpayserver.org/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://cypherpunkpay.org/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://cypherpunkpay.org/</a> (disclosure: I am the author)</li>
</ul>
<p>The worse alternative but still no KYC are the so called &quot;watch-only&quot; payment processors. The watch only payment processor is privy to all transactions in your wallet. The two I am aware of (never tried though):</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.blockonomics.co/merchants" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.blockonomics.co/merchants</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gear.mycelium.com/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://gear.mycelium.com/</a></li>
</ul>

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2021-06-26T17:44:39.920Z
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CypherpunkDev
<p>I'm pretty sure that all crypto payment processors that deal with fiat &lt;-> cryptocurrency exchanges are doing AML/KYC routines including chain analysis. That's not only true for BitPay and Coinbase but Circle et al. too. As soon as you're trying to move value between crypto and fiat you're going to have to deal with different levels of privacy invasions if you're using a payment processor. 
The exceptions to those KYC/AML routines is either cash &lt;-> crypto transactions (like localbitcoin, mycelium...) or using a crypto currency that can't be traced by (evil) companies like chainalysis.</p>

<p><strong>tl;dr I don't know any non-privacy invading bitcoin payment processor as soon as fiat gets involved.</strong></p>

<p>ps: However I know that there a various people working on new (open-source) cryptocurrency payment processors. I will try to dig out some additional info on those and update my post accordingly.</p>

<p>edit: interesting update on coinbase: <a href="https://news.bitcoin.com/coinbase-helps-fbi-shut-kickasstorrents/" rel="nofollow">https://news.bitcoin.com/coinbase-helps-fbi-shut-kickasstorrents/</a></p>

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2016-06-06T12:15:34.180Z
"including chain analysis" what makes you say that? Just a pessimistic healthy skepticism or do you have actual data?
Jannes
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2016-06-07T13:51:55.600Z
I'm not sure if there has been an official statement from any payment processor regarding chain analysis, but Coinbase is known to shut down and freeze funds if someone uses his coinbase account to fund/transfer btc to/from a gambling site. This has been happening since 2014. If you google "coinbase blocking gambling" you'll find lots of posts like these: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=747596.0 / https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1231723.0 / http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3240629-email-coinbase-asking-if-im-using-their-services-gambling-purposes.html
stke
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2016-06-07T13:59:33.027Z
related: http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/35384/how-did-coinbase-monitor-btc-transactions
stke
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2016-06-07T15:00:28.310Z
Yeah, CoinBase is notorius. I guess I was mostly wondering about "ALL crypto payment processors". There must be some that don't do chainanalisys, maybe? But you're definitely right to always assume the worst.
Jannes
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2016-06-01T06:53:12.050Z
2016-07-23T12:12:58.197Z
2016-07-23T12:12:58.197Z
stke
<p>What is the most reputable Bitcoin payment processor that has privacy friendly terms and conditions? BitPay and Coinbase are known to have used chain analysis to spy on customers. What are the alternatives for reputable merchants who do not approve of this type of privacy violation applied to their customers?</p>

<privacy><payment-processors><aml><know-your-customer>
Privacy friendly payment processor
Mary Johnson
# Privacy friendly payment processor

(Asked by: username_0 on 2016-06-01)

What is the most reputable Bitcoin payment processor that has privacy friendly terms and conditions? BitPay and Coinbase are known to have used chain analysis to spy on customers. What are the alternatives for reputable merchants who do not approve of this type of privacy violation applied to their customers?

**Tags:** privacy, payment-processors, aml, know-your-customer


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## 5 answers

### Answer by username_5 on 2016-06-01. Score: 9 | Accepted answer

I'm pretty sure that all crypto payment processors that deal with fiat <-> cryptocurrency exchanges are doing AML/KYC routines including chain analysis. That's not only true for BitPay and Coinbase but Circle et al. too. As soon as you're trying to move value between crypto and fiat you're going to have to deal with different levels of privacy invasions if you're using a payment processor.
The exceptions to those KYC/AML routines is either cash <-> crypto transactions (like localbitcoin, mycelium...) or using a crypto currency that can't be traced by (evil) companies like chainalysis.

**tl;dr I don't know any non-privacy invading bitcoin payment processor as soon as fiat gets involved.**

ps: However I know that there a various people working on new (open-source) cryptocurrency payment processors. I will try to dig out some additional info on those and update my post accordingly.

edit: interesting update on coinbase: <https://news.bitcoin.com/coinbase-helps-fbi-shut-kickasstorrents/>

> **Comments:**
> **username_6**: "including chain analysis" what makes you say that? Just a pessimistic healthy skepticism or do you have actual data?  
> **username_5**: I'm not sure if there has been an official statement from any payment processor regarding chain analysis, but Coinbase is known to shut down and freeze funds if someone uses his coinbase account to fund/transfer btc to/from a gambling site. This has been happening since 2014. If you google "coinbase blocking gambling" you'll find lots of posts like these: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=747596.0 / https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1231723.0 / http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3240629-email-coinbase-asking-if-im-using-their-services-gambling-purposes.html  
> **username_5**: related: http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/35384/how-did-coinbase-monitor-btc-transactions  
> **username_6**: Yeah, CoinBase is notorius. I guess I was mostly wondering about "ALL crypto payment processors". There must be some that don't do chainanalisys, maybe? But you're definitely right to always assume the worst.  

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### Answer by username_1 on 2016-06-03. Score: 0

You can just accept the cryptocurrencies directly, there are Bitcoin plugins for many shopping carts. The spying and KYC/AML often comes into it because of the fiat side.


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### Answer by username_2 on 2016-06-11. Score: 0

You might try Coin Cafe. They do have KYC, but they are smaller so I doubt they have the resources or motivation to track your purchases unless specifically requested to.


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### Answer by username_3 on 2021-06-26. Score: 0

You need solutions without third parties or decentral solutions for privacy because central/third parties are regulated or might be corrupt with your data. A good payment processor without third party involvement is btcpayserver.org . It manages BTC (plus lightning plus litecoin) payments fully automatized. In case you want to exchange it into fiat without a central party having knowledge about I'd recommend bisq.network . The bank can see of course the fiat transfer but has no clue about the payment reason. So far this 2nd step isn't working automatically, however the DAO (decentralized autonomous organisation) bisq is working on an API. bisq transactions in the blockchain are difficult to trace because they are like payjoin transactions.


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### Answer by username_4 on 2021-06-26. Score: 0

Privacy-wise the only way to go is to **self-host** payment processing. Fortunately, as of 2021 good end-to-end open source solutions are available:

* <https://btcpayserver.org/>
* <https://cypherpunkpay.org/> (disclosure: I am the author)

The worse alternative but still no KYC are the so called "watch-only" payment processors. The watch only payment processor is privy to all transactions in your wallet. The two I am aware of (never tried though):

* <https://www.blockonomics.co/merchants>
* <https://gear.mycelium.com/>


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