<p>I had a Core Lightning node running properly, but it suddenly somehow stopped working. I force-closed the only channel I owned (from my other node), and since I can't start the lightning daemon (with <code>lightningd</code>) of the problematic node, I can only access the funds with the
<code>hsm_secret</code>.</p>
<p>How is this going to work? I did setup another node, replaced its <code>hsm_secret</code>, ran the <code>listfunds</code> command and got nothing:</p>
<pre><code>bitcoin@raspibolt:~/.lightningmobile2/bitcoin $ lightning-cli --lightning-dir=/home/bitcoin/.lightningmobile2 --conf=/home/bitcoin/.lightningmobile2/lightningd.conf listfunds
{
   &quot;outputs&quot;: [],
   &quot;channels&quot;: []
}
</code></pre>
<p>So, after I re-synced, I ran <code>listfunds</code> and it returned me the same, exact message (no outputs). I had some hope that I'd recover my force-closed funds that way, but bad luck.</p>
<p>I just want to say that I still have the problematic sqlite3 file, if that helps.</p>

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2022-08-02T11:07:56.017Z
Does this answer your question? [c-lightning node backup-restore](https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/92801/c-lightning-node-backup-restore)
Michael Folkson
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2022-08-10T09:06:12.523Z
Hello. After a lot of time syncing, it doesn't work. I'm using the same hsm_secret, and once I enter ``listfunds`` I get no outputs.
Angelo
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2022-08-12T14:00:45.960Z
Hi Angelo, please edit your question to incorporate what happened after trying what Michael proposed into the question post.
Murch
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2022-08-12T17:54:34.713Z
Hello @Murch, I have edited my post.
Angelo
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2023-12-08T10:17:21.910Z
Hey @bl0ck3d, read this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5158920.msg60919627#msg60919627
Angelo
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2023-12-12T13:05:15.920Z
@bl0ck3d, you can't. hsm_secret is the respective to a seed phrase. No more information is disclosed by the hsm_secret.
Angelo
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2023-12-24T10:29:02.620Z
I guess no.....
Angelo
<lightning-network><wallet-recovery>
How do I gain access to the on-chain funds with hsm_secret?
Angelo
# How do I gain access to the on-chain funds with hsm_secret?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2022-08-02)

I had a Core Lightning node running properly, but it suddenly somehow stopped working. I force-closed the only channel I owned (from my other node), and since I can't start the lightning daemon (with `lightningd`) of the problematic node, I can only access the funds with the
`hsm_secret`.

How is this going to work? I did setup another node, replaced its `hsm_secret`, ran the `listfunds` command and got nothing:

```
bitcoin@raspibolt:~/.lightningmobile2/bitcoin $ lightning-cli --lightning-dir=/home/bitcoin/.lightningmobile2 --conf=/home/bitcoin/.lightningmobile2/lightningd.conf listfunds
{
   "outputs": [],
   "channels": []
}

```

So, after I re-synced, I ran `listfunds` and it returned me the same, exact message (no outputs). I had some hope that I'd recover my force-closed funds that way, but bad luck.

I just want to say that I still have the problematic sqlite3 file, if that helps.

**Tags:** lightning-network, wallet-recovery

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Does this answer your question? [c-lightning node backup-restore](https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/92801/c-lightning-node-backup-restore)  
> **username_0**: Hello. After a lot of time syncing, it doesn't work. I'm using the same hsm_secret, and once I enter ``listfunds`` I get no outputs.  
> **username_2**: Hi username_0, please edit your question to incorporate what happened after trying what username_1 proposed into the question post.  
> **username_0**: Hello @username_2, I have edited my post.  
> **username_0**: Hey @bl0ck3d, read this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5158920.msg60919627#msg60919627  
> **username_0**: @bl0ck3d, you can't. hsm_secret is the respective to a seed phrase. No more information is disclosed by the hsm_secret.  
> **username_0**: I guess no.....  

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