<blockquote>
<p><strong>Is there any condensed documentation, how the usage of the seed phrase changed over time?</strong></p>
</blockquote>
<p>Either the release notes or you can download older versions of the software and either use them or examine the code.</p>
<hr />
<h2>Source code for older versions</h2>
<p>You mentioned &quot;Electron&quot; so it isn't clear whether you mean &quot;Electron Cash&quot; or &quot;Electrum&quot;</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://electroncash.org/downloads/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://electroncash.org/downloads/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://download.electrum.org/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://download.electrum.org/</a></li>
</ul>
<hr />
<h2>Release notes</h2>
<p>You can also check the release-notes for comments about seed-phrases:</p>
<p>For example, <a href="https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/blob/master/RELEASE-NOTES" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/blob/master/RELEASE-NOTES</a> contains</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>Release 2.0</h3>
<ul>
<li>New seed derivation method (not compatible with BIP39). The seed
phrase includes a version number, that refers to the wallet
structure. The version number also serves as a checksum, and it
will prevent the import of seeds from incompatible wallets. Old
Electrum seeds are still supported.</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>

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2019-12-03T11:26:45.083Z
2019-12-03T11:32:24.553Z
2020-06-16T11:10:03.350Z
RedGrittyBrick
<p>Electrum used BIP 39 seeds for some time. So your seed may be a BIP 39 seed, in which case you will need to tell Electrum that you are importing a BIP 39 seed. When you are importing the seed, click the <code>Options</code> button and then check the checkbox for <code>BIP 39 seed</code>.</p>

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2018-10-07T14:08:32.517Z
electrum never used bip39
Abdussamad
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2017-08-13T05:43:00.283Z
2017-08-13T05:43:00.283Z
Ava Chow
<p>I once created a bitcoin wallet with Electron using a hand crafted seed phrase (using the words of the valid word list that time). </p>

<p>I now figured it was a bad idea, while it is possible to create wallets for abitrary seeds, a version number is encoded inside the seed, and thus it has some kind of format.</p>

<p>Now I just recovered the wallet from my seed phrase just to found it empty, no transactions inside.</p>

<p>I guess changes to the Electron code base broke the decoding of this hand crafted invalid seed so it now points to some other private key not matching my old wallet.</p>

<p>Is there any condensed documentation, how the usage of the seed phrase changed over time? How can I convert the old seed phrase to a working wallet?</p>

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Recover Electron wallet with bad seed phrase
dronus
# Recover Electron wallet with bad seed phrase

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-08-13)

I once created a bitcoin wallet with Electron using a hand crafted seed phrase (using the words of the valid word list that time).

I now figured it was a bad idea, while it is possible to create wallets for abitrary seeds, a version number is encoded inside the seed, and thus it has some kind of format.

Now I just recovered the wallet from my seed phrase just to found it empty, no transactions inside.

I guess changes to the Electron code base broke the decoding of this hand crafted invalid seed so it now points to some other private key not matching my old wallet.

Is there any condensed documentation, how the usage of the seed phrase changed over time? How can I convert the old seed phrase to a working wallet?

**Tags:** electrum, seed


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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2019-12-03. Score: 0

> **Is there any condensed documentation, how the usage of the seed phrase changed over time?**

Either the release notes or you can download older versions of the software and either use them or examine the code.

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## Source code for older versions

You mentioned "Electron" so it isn't clear whether you mean "Electron Cash" or "Electrum"

* <https://electroncash.org/downloads/>
* <https://download.electrum.org/>

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## Release notes

You can also check the release-notes for comments about seed-phrases:

For example, <https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/blob/master/RELEASE-NOTES> contains

> ### Release 2.0
>
> * New seed derivation method (not compatible with BIP39). The seed
>   phrase includes a version number, that refers to the wallet
>   structure. The version number also serves as a checksum, and it
>   will prevent the import of seeds from incompatible wallets. Old
>   Electrum seeds are still supported.


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### Answer by username_2 on 2017-08-13. Score: 0

Electrum used BIP 39 seeds for some time. So your seed may be a BIP 39 seed, in which case you will need to tell Electrum that you are importing a BIP 39 seed. When you are importing the seed, click the `Options` button and then check the checkbox for `BIP 39 seed`.

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: electrum never used bip39  

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