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by List user
Hello, Just wanted to check in and let everyone know that my experience with the new web site has been a disapointment. As soon as the site was posted, I gave it a try like everyone else, and it was "too busy"..but, of course!. I waited until early this morning, tried again, and made contact! Punched in some names and got no hits. I tried names that were sure things, and got timed out at 39%. After 3 tries...I was going fast and furious.....got the "server too busy" notice. I guess it's all in the wrist:) Regards, John Burrows
Re: Emmigration Records
by Paul davies
Hi In the early 90s I lived just outside Hannover for around three yrs what is the name of the village u are trying to find? I may be able to help. Bye for now Jayne In message <3702F347.50DDF12F(a)pop3.cris.com>, Jeanne Mueller <chuckkid(a)cris.com> writes >Hi, > >My g-grandparents came to Liverpool in 1880 from Germany and left for >USA in 1890. Are there any records that I might research for this >information. I am specifically looking for their village in Hannover, >Germany. I have not had any luck in USA. These people are my "brick >wall" and I would appreciate any help in knocking this wall down or at >least creating a chinck! Thank you in advance. > I would also like to thank everyone who responded to my plea of help >for help when I visit Manchester and Liverpool. I will respond >individually but it has been hectic here. > >Jeanne Mueller > > > > >==== LANCSGEN Mailing List ==== > Tip of the Week >Read the FAQ for this list at: >http://www.vaxxine.com/genrace/lancsfaq.htm > -- Paul davies
Rochdale Census
by Joan Ford
Can anyone help me? Looking for a Samuel Kershaw of Rochdale between the time frames of 1836/49. Does anyone have a census for that time. Could they look up Samuel for me? Joan Ford Australia
Samuel Tonge
Somebody was looking for TONGE in the Manchester/Salford area. Found on St Mary's Manchester Parish Registers. April 28. 1817. Samuel TONGE, wr, Publican, & Catherine Strong, sp, b.m. Joan in Essex
RE: Unsolicited messages
by Tony & Lynda Langham
Hi Richard, Thanks for adding that comment, I should have mentioned it in my message. > Rather than simply sending unsolicited messages to a > kill-file, a possibly better way to treat them would > be to report their misuse of their e-mail account to the > service that provided their e-mail account. To use > Barbara's selections [hopefully with her permission? 8-)] > as an example: We recently had a spam from an AOL subscriber who was selling "The Anarchists Cookbook" which told you how to make your own bombs!! Needless to say I sent that to "abuse(a)aol.com" as well as adding it to our killfile. We got a message of acknowledgment from AOL. > By no means should anybody send a "remove" message because, > as Lynda Langham explained, doing > so just shows to the spammer(s) that your e-mail address is > valid. Kill-filing spam gets rid of the > messages, but doesn't help to get rid of the spammers. We still prefer to killfile rather than just delete so that we do not get any more mail from that address. You really have to try to keep one step ahead of the spammers as they know every trick in the book!! Regards, Lynda. .Tony & Lynda Langham Gold Coast Australia tonylang(a)onthenet.com.au http://www.onthenet.com.au/~tonylang/Mainpage.html
Unsolicited messages
by Joan C. Brown
According to an article in my newspaper, replying with "remove" will not delete your e-mail address and prevent future messages. It merely confirms you're alive and check your e-mail. Anyone care to comment? Joan Brown Virginia --------------------------------------------- --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: Barbara Murrant <barbara(a)murrant.freeserve.co.uk> To: LANCSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com Subject: Unsolicited messages Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 21:43:41 +0100 Message-ID: <01BE7BBF.F6552DE0.barbara(a)murrant.freeserve.co.uk> Eric in Auckland wrote about unsolicited e-mail. I have found two messages which were sent last night. They were : free4life(a)fnmail.com Subject	Find out how to download all 4 free and needeverything(a)usa.net Subject	Something You Must Know There were instructions to stop further transmissions from these sources. One are told to type REMOVE in the subject line to another e-mail address, which was the same for both messages to stop any more being sent. Barbara Murrant Hertfordshire, England ==== LANCSGEN Mailing List ==== Tip of the Week Read the FAQ for this list at: http://www.vaxxine.com/genrace/lancsfaq.htm --------- End forwarded message ---------- ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Emmigration Records
by Jeanne Mueller
Hi, My g-grandparents came to Liverpool in 1880 from Germany and left for USA in 1890. Are there any records that I might research for this information. I am specifically looking for their village in Hannover, Germany. I have not had any luck in USA. These people are my "brick wall" and I would appreciate any help in knocking this wall down or at least creating a chinck! Thank you in advance. I would also like to thank everyone who responded to my plea of help for help when I visit Manchester and Liverpool. I will respond individually but it has been hectic here. Jeanne Mueller
Re: 1841 CENSUS REQUEST:
Hi Listers, Could some kind lister in Lancashire look up the census (1841) for a fellow lister in Australia. "Samuel Ellis EDWARDS age about 16 and Jane EDWARDS nee TYRER age about 15 in Melling as a farmer". In the same area at Kennesse Green, Mughull, there is also a SAMUEL and Jane EDWARDS, a Shoe Maker; I have this family. If they are not there, they may be with George TYRER on their family farm in Formby. Waiting in anticipation. From Ken in Australia.
Listowner update
by Shane and Jayne McHugh
I'm not sure if this reached the list so forgive me if this has already been read. :-| I am temporarily back until April 12th when I shall have to hand the list over to Tom again due to more surgery. My thanks to Tom for answering my husband's plea for help and for allowing me to rest without worrying about the list. *-) My back is still sore and I need to pace myself a little better than I have been doing so if you don't receive a reply from me please be patient as I have to cut down on the amount of time I spend at the computer for a little while. Thanks again, Tom, you're the best. Take care Jayne Listowner
Re: Genealogy
by Fred Lee
Sally Does Preston exist? You may be interested in this: http://www.compulink.co.uk/~rmo/preston.htm Fred Lancashire UK
by Richard B. Anderson, Jr.
Hello to everybody on Lancsgen, from southern Virginia, Rather than simply sending unsolicited messages to a kill-file, a possibly better way to treat them would be to report their misuse of their e-mail account to the service that provided their e-mail account. To use Barbara's selections [hopefully with her permission? 8-)] as an example: free4life(a)fnmail.com Subject Find out how to download all 4 free and needeverything(a)usa.net Subject Something You Must Know Report messages from free4life(a)fnmail.com to postmaster(a)fnmail.com or, if it exists, abuse(a)fnmail.com Report messages from needeverything(a)usa.net to postmaster(a)usa.net or abuse(a)usa.net If either fnmail.com or usa.net are reliable enough, they'll check into such complaints and could well close such spammers' accounts. That's the way I normally handle such messages as Barbara mentioned and have had better than average luck getting some spammers shut down. Hotmail.com is one of the more reliable groups for battling spam, but I don't know much about the rest. By no means should anybody send a "remove" message because, as Lynda Langham explained, doing so just shows to the spammer(s) that your e-mail address is valid. Kill-filing spam gets rid of the messages, but doesn't help to get rid of the spammers. Hope this helps somebody! Best wishes for genealogical successes this year and in the future, Richard B. Anderson, Jr., Danville, Virginia USA r.anderson(a)d-k.com Would anyone living in the greater Atlanta [Georgia] area please e-mail me OFF-LIST? I have a non-genealogy favor to ask [for an activity scheduled April 22nd-25th]. I'll explain the details later for anyone who might be interested in helping me.
Blackledge
by Bryan King
Hi ! All This is my first posting on this list. I'm looking for the descendants of George & Jane Blackledge, the family lived at #23 Warrington Road, Abram, Lancashire in the 1881 and 1891 census's. Their children were John, Peter, Henry, William, Edward, Elizabeth Alice, Harriet, and George. George had two brothers, John & James Blackledge, who both lived in Hindly, with their families, during this same time period. John & Ann Blackledge had the following children, Ellen, William, James, Margaret, and Catherine. James & Hannah Blackledge had two children named John, and Catherine. Elizabeth Alice Blackledge was my grandmother, she immigrated too Canada about 1906, and the family settled in Banff, Alberta, where some members of the family still reside. There is a family story that two of her brothers came to Canada earlier. Apparently they attended the "Klondike Gold Rush" in 1898, and later worked as coal miners in Hillcrest, Alberta, until 1914, when they left Canada for Australia. They both seem to have died in Australia in the 1940's or 1950's. Know one in the family at present knows which two brothers these were, except it wasn't Edward, as he also lived in Banff, and worked as a shoemaker. I'd appreciate any help any of you readers can give me in this matter, my own feeling is that the Australian pair never married. It will be interesting to find out where any replies come from. Bryan King Calgary
Hi Barbara, I hope that you didn't send the remove message. This is just a clever ruse by the spammers to verify that your address exists. You would be better off adding their address to your "kill file". Regards, Lynda. . Tony & Lynda Langham Gold Coast Australia tonylang(a)onthenet.com.au http://www.onthenet.com.au/~tonylang/Mainpage.html > -----Original Message----- > From: Barbara Murrant [mailto:barbara@murrant.freeserve.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 6:44 AM > To: LANCSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com > Subject: Unsolicited messages > > > Eric in Auckland wrote about unsolicited e-mail. I have found > two messages > which were sent last night. They were : > > free4life(a)fnmail.com > Subject	Find out how to download all 4 free > > and > > needeverything(a)usa.net > Subject	Something You Must Know > > There were instructions to stop further transmissions from these sources. > One are told to type REMOVE in the subject line to another > e-mail address, > which was the same for both messages to stop any more being sent. > > Barbara Murrant > Hertfordshire, England > > > ==== LANCSGEN Mailing List ==== > Tip of the Week > Read the FAQ for this list at: > http://www.vaxxine.com/genrace/lancsfaq.htm > >
Re: Bolton Registry Office - address?
by Roger Lewis
Hello Moira Here is the address that I have in my book: The Registry Office P.O.Box 53 Paderborn House Civic Centre Bolton Greater Manchester BL1 1JW Best Regards Roger Lewis Basingstoke, Hampshire, UK lewmal(a)globalnet.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: mmforde <mmforde(a)telinco.com> To: LANCSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com <LANCSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, 30 March, 1999 11:21 PM Subject: Bolton Registry Office - address? >Please could someone give me the address of the Bolton Register Office so >that I can send for a marriage certificate? > >Many thanks, > >Moira >Clevedon, Somerset >Researching ELLISON, PETERS, GREENHALGH, FINDLEY and PLANTON in Wigan and >Ince > > >==== LANCSGEN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe please send a message to: >LANCSGEN-L-request(a)rootsweb.com (mail mode) >LANCSGEN-D-request(a)rootsweb.com (digest mode) >that contains (in the body of the message) the command > unsubscribe > >
Re: Interest list - ASHWORTH
Hello Sue I have just gained an interest in the ASHWORTH name. My interest originates in Heptonstall, West Yorks with connections to the THOMAS name. I am however in correspondence with an ASHWORTH family in St Helens, Merseyside, who originate from Rochdale and their ancestors are linked to my THOMAS ancestors in Heptonstall WYKs. Do you have any information that my ASHWORTH family could link in with? Best Regards Roger Lewis Basingstoke, Hampshire, UK lewmal(a)globalnet.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Sue Southward <s.southward(a)zen.co.uk> To: LANCSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com <LANCSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, 31 March, 1999 7:23 PM Subject: Interest list >ASHWORTH - Norden, Rochdale LAN >HALKYARD/HAWKYARD - Rochdale LAN >WOOLFENDEN - Norden - Rochdale LAN >SANDERSON - Rochdale LAN >RAWSTRON - Wardle, Balderstone, Rochdale, LAN >TOWN - Halifax, Burley , Shipley, WYKS >FREEMAN - Leeds, Pontefract, WYKS >SOUTHWARD - Liverpool, LAN >DOBLE - Eastbourne >NICHOLL - Eastbourne >MENZIE / MENZIES - Wigan, LAN > > > > >==== LANCSGEN Mailing List ==== > Tip of the Week >Read the FAQ for this list at: >http://www.vaxxine.com/genrace/lancsfaq.htm > >
Re: RC Church, Hulme
by J.A.LANCASTER
Hi, Cheryl I saw your first posting and didn't get round to responding, and I can only offer help about >1. In 1881 my family lived at 16 Mallow st Hulme. What RC parish would be closest to this address? And is it still there. Where would I find the record for this parish? By 1881, there were two RC churches serving Hulme. The older one was St. Wilfrid, and then from about 1863 there was an off-shoot, known as St. Alphonsus until 1876, when it became an independent unit and its name changed to The Holy Family. The most up-to-date listings of Catholic registers to 1880 are Michael Gandy's series 'Catholic Missions and Registers, 1700 - 1880'. Volume 5 deals with the north-west of England. The entries for these two churches read - St. Wilfrid, Bedford Street, Hulme (1842). Own Cemetery 1846 - 1858. Original Registers - Baptisms 1842 - 1907 (index) Marriage 1844 - 1916 (index 1853 - 1916) Lancs CRO. Baptisms 1907+, Marriages 1916 +, Confirmations 1860 +, DBur 1956 - 1981 (Parish Priest) Copies - (?none) St. Alphonsus, Clarendon Street (1863). Moved to Grosvenor Square, Chorlton-on-Medlock 1874. Known as Holy Family from 1876. No early registers. Served from St. Wilfrid's to 1876. The Holy Family, Ormond Street, Chorlton-on-Medlock (1863). In Grosvenor Square to 1879. Known as St. Alphonsus to 1876. Closed 1957. Original Registers - Baptisms 1876 - 1908 and index 1876 - 1908. Marriage 1877 - 1908 Confirmations 1876 - 1904. Deaths: none. Lancs CRO. Served from St. Wilfrid's to 1876, St. Bede's to 1877. Earlier entries at St. Wilfrid's. Chapel of ease to St. Augustine's 1908 - 1957 Copies - Baptisms 1876 - 1908. Marriage 1877 - 1908 Confirmations 1876 - 1904. microfilm Lancs CRO. I am not sure where you are, but I don't think the Lancs CRO do research, though they may have a list of researchers (need paying). Hope this helps, Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs)
Pendleton obit.
by COLIN SMITH
Please could anyone advise me which newspaper and in which library I might find an obituary for Alice Heys of 37 Kingsford Street, Pendleton, who was buried at Elton on Oct 1 1937. I have seen both Pendleton and Weaste mentioned and wonder how they relate to each other, please could someone explain. I have a similar query about an obit for Sarah Greenhalgh of Buxton Rd. Whaley Bridge, buried 5 Jan 1905, and I know it isn't Lancs but people on Lancsgen seem to have such a wide range of interests I thought someone might be able to help. Thank you very much Pat Smith
by Barbara Murrant
Eric in Auckland wrote about unsolicited e-mail. I have found two messages which were sent last night. They were : free4life(a)fnmail.com Subject	Find out how to download all 4 free and needeverything(a)usa.net Subject	Something You Must Know There were instructions to stop further transmissions from these sources. One are told to type REMOVE in the subject line to another e-mail address, which was the same for both messages to stop any more being sent. Barbara Murrant Hertfordshire, England
New member (Ancestor surname-Summers/Somers)
by C. R. Longwell
Hello everyone; I am a new member to this list. My name is Bob Longwell and I am looking for an ancestor by the name of John Summers/Somers who may have come from Lancashire County in the mid-1700's. He was a private in the 47th Regiment of Foot,under the command of Lt. Gen. Perigrine Laselles. In a deed from Augusta County, Virginia he sells his right to land he was entitled to for his service during the French and Indian War to his son Andrew Summers. This deed is dated 18 June 1806. It is stated that John Summers served for seven years and was discharged at Quebec, Canada on 6 October 1763. The discharge was signed by Ian Spilain(sic), Major of the said 47th Regiment of Foot. Does anyone on the list have any information about this John Summers (i.e. what was his nationality, when and where was he born, who were his parents, etc?) With regard to John Summer's nationality I have found one lead. It is in a 1974 edition of a Newsletter entitled "Summers: Whose? News? Clues? in an article written by a Joseph S. Coulter (deceased). Mr. Coulter wrote that he had been in contact with the PRO andhad asked aout the possibility of this John Summers being a German prisoner of the English, who was allowed to enlist and serve in the army. Mr. Coulter stated that the answer from the PRO was an emphatic NO, for the following reasons. First the British Army did not allow prisoners to enlist for the period of time (i.e. seven years) that John Summers was in service. Secondly they said the 47th Regiment of Foot was not in the practice of enlisting Greman prisoners at all. Does anyone have any information as to the validity of these statements? I have contacted the PRO at Kew and they asid they were not able to determine the veracity of the Mr. Coulter's comments. They suggested I get in touch with the relevant regimental museum at the Lancashire County and Regimental Museum in Preston. Is there an email address for this Museum? Ihave their regular mail address. The PRO, also, suggested I consult a published source such as a printed Regimental history for the 47th Foot. Is there such a work and if so how could I obtain any information that might pertain to my quest? Any and all answers to or suggestions as to how to obtain answers to the above question would be greatly appreciate. Thank you in advance, Bob Longwell
St Paul's Warrington
by Prosser, Kay
I have a copy of a marriage certificate that states that the couple were married in "the parish church in the parish of St Paul Warrington". Does this mean that the church is called St Paul or just the parish and does anyone know if it is still there in Warrington and which denomination is it. The bride's father, Thomas CLUB, is listed as being an "earthenware dealer" what exactly was this? Was he a shopkeeper or a door-to-door type of salesman in china and pots? Or would he make the earthenware and then sell it? This is 1853. The couple getting married are my greatx3 grandparents and their names were Henry HOLLAND and Lassey CLUB(B) and if anyone has any connections to them I would love to hear from you. Thanks, Kay Prosser Victoria, BC, Canada
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