There are reports of an order to units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Soledar not to take Russian soldiers prisoner
The 54th separate mechanized brigade of the Ukrainian army operates in the Soledar direction. Recently, messages have appeared on the Internet about the order of the command of the brigade to the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that are part of it not to take Russian soldiers prisoner.
Such information was published by the Welders Telegram channel.
His sources claim that the commanders of the 54th Motorized Brigade ordered to "solve problems" with Russian servicemen who were still captured on the ground. In other words, they are ordered to be destroyed, despite all the conventions and unwritten customs of warfare.
The authors of this initiative serve in the 46th battalion of the brigade mentioned above. Previously, this unit was known under the name of the nationalist formation "Donbass".
The servicemen of this unit are implicated in numerous war crimes that they have committed since their very foundation - since 2014. They have already become the "pioneers" of their own initiative, having demonstratively killed several Russians captured by them and recommending that other units of the brigade do the same.
Information for understanding who we are fighting against, and that there is no line between nationalists and "ordinary mobilized poor AFU". There are no good and bad people in the Ukrainian military uniform
- the TG channel comments on what is happening.
Ministry of Defense of Ukraine
voice of reason 21 December 2022 16: 18
There is no difference between war criminals and members of the military formations of the former Ukrainian state. And it is necessary that these formations themselves do not exist. Physically.
Silver99 21 December 2022 16: 26
Alaverdy, I have long believed that the vushniks should be wetted before they have time to raise their hands uphill, today there are already more than 10 thousand of them in Russian captivity ((((
Terenin 21 December 2022 16: 36
Again, the horses do not understand that the boomerang "do not capture" will return to them just like their chants "we will have light and heat, and they (Donbass) will sit in the basements ..."
bayard 22 December 2022 02: 46
Quote: Terenin
do not understand that the "do not capture" boomerang will return to them
"Donbass" has never been a combat unit, these are patented punishers, on which there is nowhere to put stamps. And now they most likely fulfill the role of a detachment detachment. Their call is the usual provocation of fanatics in order to provoke even greater bitterness and suggestion to the mobilized AFU that they will now be treated in captivity in the same way as they are doing.
And if these ghouls begin to be captured, then it is necessary to deal with them exactly as they suggest - to resolve the issue on the spot.
According to the laws of war.
private person 22 December 2022 16: 36
do not understand that the "do not capture" boomerang will return to them as well,
For them, captivity as a way to survive and return to continue the war with the RF Armed Forces again. So it is necessary to deprive them of such a privilege, well, if it comes to that, make them disabled. How are they with our captives and sneeze at these conventions that only work against us.
Pantsuy 21 December 2022 16: 45
Quote from Silver99
Alaverdy, I have long believed that the sundressers should be wetted before they have time to raise their "hands uphill"
My grandfather told me about such a soldier's trick - shoot the German until he had time to raise his hands. So that later you don't mess with it - so there are fewer problems.
Nikolaevich I 21 December 2022 17: 03
For a long time I think that Vushnikov should be wetted before they have time to raise their hands uphill,
Mdaa ...! The situation is indeed developing in such a way that you can say: "Good sun-shnik-dead sun-shnik!" The history of the Second World War informs us that there were cases when the senior commanders of the Red Army (commanders of large units ...) gave orders not to take prisoner military personnel of the enemy of certain "categories", distinguished by their particular cruelty and criminality of actions! We must do this now too ... only so that there is agreement and mutual understanding between the rank and file and the commanders! And it is not necessary to report to the "top"!
Pravodel 23 December 2022 08: 02
The history of the Second World War ... there were cases when the commanders of the Red Army ... gave orders not to take prisoner military personnel of the enemy of certain "categories", distinguished by their particular cruelty and criminality of actions!
When I.V. Stalin learned about the execution of Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, he issued an order not to take prisoners of soldiers and officers of the 332nd Infantry Regiment of the 197th Infantry Division. Commander - Lieutenant Colonel Ludwig Rüderer.
Ours during the Second World War did not take prisoner the SS, traitors, marauders, policemen. The same should be done with these bastards now. Banderlogs, marauders, reptiles who mock civilians and prisoners of war, do not take prisoners ... Let them immediately go to hell to their friends, where they belong ..
Evrepid 23 December 2022 14: 42
For example, Hungarians and Romanians ... My grandfather became mad when he was asked about captured Romanians or Hungarians ...
Grandma only once said that they were such scum ...
Cananecat 21 December 2022 17: 04
it is necessary to wet until they have time to raise their hands uphill
One of the participants in the SVO said so, "captured, this is when I drink coffee, and you come to me and raise your hands, and if I come to you, and you hold on to your weapon even on the other side, there can be no captivity"
Zakirov Damir 21 December 2022 18: 02
Quote: Canecat
Gold words! They offered to surrender, they refused, and when they went forward, then bring down everyone in a row.
It seems that our servicemen switched to this principle from about the middle of the year. After the Mariupol Natsiks were put on three meals a day and they began to court.
Sergey Zhikharev 23 December 2022 07: 48
It turns out that the Finns had the legal right to bring down all the Red Army soldiers who were captured?
And if country A (100 million people, need oil) was attacked by country B (15 million people, a lot of oil), then it can also bring down prisoners (country B claims that they shot back at "peacefully bombing planes" of country A)
Pablo Blade 23 December 2022 09: 12
I wrote something that was not clear. Can you explain why the Finns could not take the Red Army prisoners?
misunderstood the following
"captured, this is when I drink coffee, and you come to me and raise your hands, and if I come to you, and you hold on to your weapon even from the other side, there can be no captivity."
This can also be interpreted as
"everyone who declared war must surrender automatically, so that they would not be killed"
and how
"We offered you surrender, and you must surrender for the sake of your salvation, because then we will not take anyone prisoner." In other words, we surrounded, say, a village, they said to surrender - and then we will spare, and if we didn't surrender right away, then consider that we didn't give up at all
Quote: Sergey Zhikharev
Mortality in Finnish captivity, for the period from February 1.2.1942, 1.5.1944 to May 22.6.1941, 1.2.1942, exceeded that in German captivity. Not for the period from XNUMX to XNUMX, seven months, but for two years, three months. The Finns killed our prisoners of war ahead of the rest!
Are you aware of this fact?
Some kind of abstraction - express yourself more clearly!
The main criterion is that if, when taking 10 prisoners of war, there is a risk of life for at least one serviceman of the Russian Federation, the destruction of these 10 prisoners of war is justified!
And yes, I am for the destruction of the Nazis with weapons in their hands and the forcible deportation of all unreliable from the taken territories to Western Ukraine and Poland!
In this regard, I consider Stalin's methods more justified than in the next 50 years - two generations - to contain these "wolves". "Wolves" who will forever watch and wait for the arrival of the next invasion from Europe.
4ekist 21 December 2022 21: 28
In other words, they are ordered to be destroyed, despite all conventions ....
These orders of the ukrovermacht (leaders and executors) put them OUTSIDE THE LAW, and therefore I hope that the attitude towards them will be appropriate without any pity and regret. Rabid dogs are to be destroyed.
zloybond 22 December 2022 16: 47
Yes. Agree completely. Only now, the government, represented by the helmsman, has not recognized anyone as fascists, Nazis, terrorists .... and, accordingly, these Nazis, from the point of view of our recognition of them, legally fulfill the oath for the protection, defense and integrity of the so-called Ukraine ... no matter how much it infuriates us - the spirit of our leadership was not enough to dot the "i". So we can consider them as anyone. But our government has not canceled their legitimacy and legality.
And that annoys me, to say the least.
And of course, it infuriates that they are taken prisoner, treated, fed, exchanged, well-fed, healthy, ready to take up arms again .... and they again take up arms. They laugh at us later, spit at us - and our politicians are all smiling and waving ... they say we are not like that ....
brondulyak 22 December 2022 23: 46
I read that Donetsk and Lugansk do not take Ukrainians prisoner!
Zug 23 December 2022 22: 18
Brother said that he did not see the prisoners ukrov.Only the dead.
isv000 21 December 2022 16: 19
From this moment on, the l / s of this brigade is doomed. With one stroke of the pen, the command vuk wrote off an entire brigade ...
Argon 21 December 2022 17: 02
This is in the hands of the command. They won't give up. It would be necessary to arrange a hunt for the command. Here the fun would go.
Asad 21 December 2022 16: 21
When advertising TG channels, and even more so without mentioning the author, you should not publish information from the OBS series. In no way do I justify the enemy. We have a thousand exchange fund, I think the enemy has many times less.
VSO-396 21 December 2022 18: 22
Quote: ASAD
I agree with you, it's painfully similar to stuffing. Although, it seems that they have an unspoken rule about the "Wagnerites" - they are not taken prisoner.
Maxim Arkhipov 22 December 2022 10: 41
So they don't get caught. From the word at all. The only option is shell-shocked, unconscious and therefore taken prisoner. But in this case, attempts are made to either free or destroy.
tihonmarine 21 December 2022 16: 22
There are no good and bad people in the Ukrainian military uniform
Briefly and clearly.
Quote: tihonmarine
As a rule, there is also only evil spirits in embroidered shirts.
As a kid, I remember how Khrushchev liked to walk around in an embroidered shirt.
For me, Khrushchev is one of the first evil spirits.
Oh how I agree with you!
Uprun 21 December 2022 16: 22
All VFU outskirts should become sentenced, starting from 2014, there are no soldiers there, only "butchers" ........
That's good - it's time to fight to the last ukronatsik!
The territory without Ukronatsiks should become a legitimate target for the SVO - destroy some on the battlefield, send others to construction sites in Donbass, and deport others.
Now our military personnel must be made aware of this in order to thoroughly thin out the exchange fund for prisoners of war to a ratio of 1: 1 in the future.
coinsam 21 December 2022 16: 28
If the order is not written, then it will not be possible to prove it. Although it's real, yes, they can practice this for themselves, it's just in their spirit.
Nyrobsky 21 December 2022 19: 51
Quote from monetam
No one will issue such orders in writing, because this is a direct violation of the Convention and a war crime, and therefore this is an unspoken order of the brigade command, which, in fact, they themselves put themselves outside the law and must be destroyed as a priority.
rocket757 21 December 2022 16: 28
Big losses, a lot of blood... total frenzy. This happens and not infrequently.
Ours just need to keep in mind what their counterparts are capable of.
Hello Victor
Hi Gennady
It is difficult to try to feel in the place of our soldiers if you yourself have not found yourself in a situation of such complexity ...
Anything happened, but the barrel always looked in the direction of the enemy ...
Dau, god of luck, luck to all our fighters ... a full store and reliable comrades nearby.
It happened to everyone ... And they blew their brains out drunk and careless ... but they beat the adversary, and the result is that they are now fighting on our side and not bad.
You understand what I mean
it's true!
God "pardoned" me, all the "army days" were long ago and not here, not on our land ... I finished my service back in the SA.
At the expense of those who have now stood nearby and are fighting with dignity ... well, like that, they pulled themselves up, figured it out, and now we are walking side by side and fighting!
That is why, by the way, many people think that when we push the Kukuevskys away, over the hill, those, the majority, who can, will be ready to live in a new, normal way, will remain.
Oldie, you are painfully categorical about the "Ukrainian mentality": as if you don't know any Ukrainians.
Dmitry Tsarevich 23 December 2022 13: 41
They shit on the Ukrainians and in general on everyone. there are just a lot of traitors on our side, whose children and money are with the enemies of Russia, hence this incomprehensible softness, they are being held by the balls.
tatarin1972 21 December 2022 16: 46
With what measure you measure, it will be measured to you!
Again miscarriages from TsPSo appeared? Go hang noodles to Europeans.
Quote: tatarin1972
It is difficult for the owner to hang noodles. He feeds them with this noodles
Irek 21 December 2022 16: 50
Send to.....
enough space for everyone.
Oleg Gumennov 21 December 2022 16: 53
Absolutely in solidarity. Less pity for the enemy, less problems in the future. At least for the next 50-70 years, recalling the experience of World War II, where, after the defeat in the war, the Germans and Japanese were considered the most pacifist countries. PS That the Mujahideen from Tornado has not been seen for a long time. Escaped or a tuba from the NLAV was beaten flat on him?
Mint Gingerbread 21 December 2022 17: 04
The blood feud will just start. Each other will deliberately finish off. Whether that's good or bad, I don't know, there are no rules in war.
Quote: Mint Gingerbread
Where did you see blood feud? It is full of Russian Muslims who do not fight according to the Sermon on the Mount and for whom the Ukronazis have never been a "brotherly people".
I did not write that I saw a blood feud and did not say anything about Muslims. It was about the fact that some soldiers, having begun to kill for personal reasons, and this is precisely revenge, will give rise to a response from the soldiers of the other side.
A080083 23 December 2022 16: 45
It's not called blood feud.
It's an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Muslims can be very sensitive to the use of the terminology of their religion. Yes, in principle, they are right, blood relationship in this case has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Zippo 21 December 2022 17: 10
It's better not to be captured by these animals, they are still masters of shoulder cases, like their ancestors, the policemen. If the civilian population is so tormented, then what can we say about the military.
Quote from Zippo
I'm sure we understand this.
zurbagan63 21 December 2022 17: 23
Quote: Pantsuy
Your grandfather is not a man, but Mankind!
Quote: zurbagan63
Oh Zur. haven't seen you for a long time
All the "old men" were washed ...
Metallurg_2 21 December 2022 18: 29
Interestingly, if we withdraw our recognition of used Ukraine, how will the member states of the NVFU be considered military personnel and will they have to stand on ceremony with all sorts of Geneva conventions? Or will it be possible to spend on the spot?
Sancho_SP 22 December 2022 10: 09
Like all "international law" - depends on the point of view.
Strictly speaking, no one interferes today, even today, there is simply no executive body that would punish violations of these conventions.
Pete Borisitch 21 December 2022 19: 15
They themselves there breathe incense! what captivity? di oty? Totally unreal...
With whom we are fighting, normal people have had understanding for many years, but for the rest it does not fit the training manual.
Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 22 December 2022 17: 43
I am sure that in return they will receive a similar attitude and it will be fair!
Sergio63 22 December 2022 22: 32
Naturally, we will not take them either ..... enough good nature for BANDERLOG, FOR FERTILIZER !!! And everyone!!!!!
t200404 23 December 2022 00: 13
That's right, there are practically no good ones in relation to the Russian Federation in Ukraine - the conclusion must be leveled.
shinobi 23 December 2022 00: 21
Stupid. As a result, they are waiting for exactly what they are doing. Only there will be no chance.
NSV 23 December 2022 06: 22
How many times I ask: Why do we even take prisoner Jew Benders ??? Feed and treat for the people's money?!?!
mongolian9999 23 December 2022 11: 35
This order of the Ukrainian command is directed not so much against the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, but rather against their own people, who secretly hope not to fall into the coffin, but to be captured by our people. Now all your comments, such as "everyone to the grave" will be copied, replicated and scare their own. And we'll have thousands more cornered rats. These things should be done in silence. And I am convinced that our command is right, that it takes away phones and cameras from soldiers. In addition to being a good beacon for guidance, it is also a fixation of foolishly possible crimes. For example, they make a hole in the wall for passage to a high-rise building, and this is damage to property, just a minute. War has not been declared.
sent26 23 December 2022 12: 15
SVO is a very costly undertaking.
It is high time to stop taking prisoners so as not to spend money on medical treatment, food and maintenance.
What are you, this is a good business, money is given out that can be cut, institutions are being created for the protection / treatment / supervision of captured ukrovoyaks. there you can create several grain posts and plant the right people. business nothing personal
Hadji Murat 23 December 2022 13: 37
Well, ours also have lists of units, there are no prisoners of war, they all fight back to the end and in the end put a bullet in their foreheads, fat heroes!
ifdru74 23 December 2022 14: 39
Only those who have useful information should be taken prisoner, and everyone else, if they did not have time to surrender, can not be taken prisoner. It is known how many of ours have been captured, therefore, capturing more than necessary for the exchange is an extra expenditure of resources.
If someone thinks that this is cruel and unjustified, listen to the official opponents. And think - why, for example, capture artillerymen who shelled Donetsk. These gunners don't even realize that they are doing something bad by shooting at residential areas. It is so convenient for them, which means that we should also be as comfortable as "not ours."
Let's treat our enemies the way our enemies treat us. After all, our enemies crave such treatment. And they don't understand why it could be otherwise.
denis88 23 December 2022 14: 45
This means that every soldier of the 46th battalion of the 54th separate motorized brigade must fall asleep with the thought of an inevitable sledgehammer.
cash 23 December 2022 14: 51
so from the first day they must be cut out all, no matter who he is, mobilized, cook-driver-cleaner, this is the enemy, and the enemy is exterminated without pity
buslaif 24 December 2022 11: 42
Quote: bayard
they most likely fulfill the role of a detachment detachment.
There is no need to insult the role of the Red Army detachments in the Great Patriotic War, comparing their activities with ordinary gangs of punishers of the Ukronazis.
Orca 27 December 2022 08: 54
Misunderstood the following...
No need to play "roly" - you understood everything correctly. Only stupid people can not understand what is written, but you are clearly not one of them. It's just that it's more convenient for you now, apparently more profitable, to confuse sour with green. Do not stumble on the slippery path.
Quote: denis88
every soldier of the 46th battalion of the 54th separate motorized brigade must fall asleep with the thought of the inevitable sledgehammer.
He should wake up with the same thought.
Yaroslav the Wise 27 December 2022 10: 29
VV himself once said: "... We will wet, even in the toilet ...". This is how it should be done. Quietly. And it doesn't matter who gives orders to Banderlogs - generals, officers or leaders of detachments. Take prisoner only if banderlogs surrender in platoons or companies. And not like that he killed killed the prisoners, and then he saw that he was surrounded and he was left alone, and immediately let's pull his hands to the top. And then, during interrogations, to tell that he did not shoot anyone, and in general only brought cartridges to evil Ukrainians, and in general he accidentally got into the war.
There are no random Ukrainians there. Everyone goes to war in the hope of killing as many Russian orcs as possible! It is high time for our political leadership and the military to understand this.