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Date: 07 Jan 2015 09:55
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Pythy 07 Jan 2015 12:15
Overall very good, though not particularly exciting or engrossing. One editing note:
"The last reference to it before the war makes not that it was placed in "deep storage" at a redacted location."
I can't figure out what this sentence means or is supposed to mean.
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Hawkin 07 Jan 2015 15:46
It should be "makes note" rather than "makes not." I fixed it.
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TroyL 08 Jan 2015 03:31
And thanks for that!
"WELL FOUNDATION. YOU MADE IT SO EASY. SO VERY VERY EASY." - dimensionpotato
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Drewbear 07 Jan 2015 14:54
I don't know… I kinda liked not knowing what the remaining pieces of the kit were/did. No vote.
Giving bearhugs to the unsuspecting since 1872.
Unfold by Drewbear, 07 Jan 2015 14:54
I felt that way for a long time, and then, I realized that people researching or guarding the SCP originally had access to all of that data, which was presumably removed from the original document. After I reread this thing a few times, it made sense to me that the split with the insurgency made it possible to have that information lost, which made a "discovered information" document a very alluring prospect for a person like me. Couldn't resist myself. Sorry if I ruined some of the mystery!
legendaryweredragon 07 Jan 2015 17:49
I don't think I like these because most of them have physical effects that are related in some way to the function of the object, like being able to do what the object normally does but super well, while the original object had two effects both mental rather than physical, the first of which was just an odd effect that made it less useful and the second is something very subtle that you wouldn't expect the object to do. The effects just don't have the same feel as the original. I would like it if some of the objects had more subtle effects or had mental effects like original. I also don't like that too many of them have useful or cool effects.
it also would have been interesting if you had written them such that the effects of the objects seemed like they were meant to be used together, having effects that go together or complement each other somehow. It also would have been more interesting if you had written the effects in a way that seemed to tell a subtle story about why the objects have their effects.
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Unfold by legendaryweredragon, 07 Jan 2015 17:49
I would like it if some of the objects had more subtle effects or had mental effects like original. I also don't like that too many of them have useful or cool effects.
I actually have what the objects "really" do in a word document sitting on my computer. I wrote this one as a "discovered information" style research document, which omits some important facts and data. All of them have an obvious effect and a subtle effect, like -4, but none of them — with the mild, light exception of the scissors — really spells that out.
it also would have been interesting if you had written them such that the effects of the objects seemed like they were meant to be used together, having effects that go together or complement each other somehow.
Granted, but they were already "magical" in a way, and I didn't want this to be, like, a power ranger shaving kit, I guess. Swiss army shaving kit. There. That. That's what I was avoiding.
It also would have been more interesting if you had written the effects in a way that seemed to tell a subtle story about why the objects have their effects.
Not a bad idea. You could write that one, if you wanted, but I've left the "originating event" and whoever the traveler was who had this collection up to someone else.
when I said "meant to be used together" i was referring to the effects they would have when using them for purpose of shaving/grooming which is what the objects are intended to be used for if not for their effects. The mirror has an effect that makes shaving with it difficult and possibly harmful, but not impossibly dangerous, and is not something you would immediately figure out if you tried to use it for shaving. The others don't go together with this. I am not saying that they should go together in a useful way. Using them together for shaving and grooming would probably be very harmful, but they way they would interact if used together for shaving and grooming should be interesting. you don't even need to say what happens when you try to use them together, the reader should be able to imagine what happens when you try to use all of them.
PeppersGhost 08 Jan 2015 04:34
I got a strong Lost Room vibe from this. Not to say that's a bad thing, of course– it's a great the show, and I've always been bummed that the fun, simple, "magic item" type of SCP seems to have fallen out of favor.
Individually, these items probably wouldn't be able to support their own articles, but I think they work rather nicely as a set. +1
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Unfold by PeppersGhost, 08 Jan 2015 04:34
The Lost Room is the original reason I found the site. I thought it was a Lost Room fansite, and SCP-005 confused me.
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Agent MacLeod 08 Jan 2015 08:39
See, the similarities between this and The Lost Room bug me. Specifically, both the comb in The Lost Room and this mess with/slow down time. I'm not accusing anyone of plagiarism, mostly because I credit TroyL as being way smarter and creative than that and because I don't feel I need to be opening cans of worms like that right now, but the similarity is too great for me to ignore. More than that, while I do find it plausible that the Foundation might rediscover and declassify (within its own ranks, anyway) this information, and that the same agent who figured out what the CI was up to would rediscover this info (or write the preface to it, at least), I wasn't very entertained. These are overpowered anomalous items that happened to come in the same package. This doesn't make a compelling narrative like the original SCP. Neutral vote for now.
Unfold by Agent MacLeod, 08 Jan 2015 08:39
I had actually forgotten what the Comb did, and instead of googling it like a normal person, I spent the day rewatching the show. Thank you for giving me that excuse! I can see how there are some similarities, but I think it's pretty different, overall. And yes, I fully admit that most of these are the sort of 'overpowered, magic items' that we don't want as SCPs. That's one of the reasons I've never had them recovered, and I was particularly hedgy about the other effects (if any) that they might have.
RhettSarlin 24 Jan 2015 16:34
And yes, I fully admit that most of these are the sort of 'overpowered, magic items' that we don't want as SCPs.
….but which, as I've noted before, make perfect sense for the Chaos Insurgency to have, because obviously they would have taken the most useful and well understood items with them when they split off, leaving the Foundation to contain the rest. Good job on helping to reinforce that idea, I like it :P
Also: when I first saw the title of this entry i narrowed my eyes and thought "if the author of this isn't Troy then it is SO not going in my headcanon." Pleased with the end results though.
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thedeadlymoose 08 Jan 2015 08:52
I love this. This sort of thing is basically like candy for me.
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Slid 23 Apr 2015 19:46
Came to the comments thread because I immediately recognized the Lost Room references. Awesome stuff. ANY fan of the SCP Foundation would love that show, hands down.
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Wuz 20 May 2015 00:11
You know what I liked the most about this article? This line:
Original documents referenced this event as a "cut in the surface of the universe", which comes across as more dramatic than strictly necessary, but typical for documents written at the time.
This is THE in-universe explanation I had always wanted for the Early-Installment Weirdness of this site.
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Zathura344 13 Sep 2016 13:45
Really enjoyed this, must say however I believe you mean "the razor" in the second paragraph of The Razor
"When opened, then razor blade could be drawn through the air…"
Also I like the idea that the Foundation may have the Brush and Cup under their control, in deep storage, but they arn't sure. It puts into scope the size of the organization personally, like a security guard in a deep storage unit may walk by the dimly lit room its storage locker is in and never realize it.
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toadking07 06 Jan 2021 16:38
I am a REAL big fan of this whole "by today's standards" talk in regards to how the Foundation has changed their approach to items like this. I think it's a very interesting world building of sorts. That there were earlier days where things were a little messier, a little less strict in their documentation. Wish more SCP articles had stuff like that. Showing how things have changed from one era to another.
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Pachelbel 20 Sep 2021 15:11
I love that this article essentially makes fun of bad SCP writing by blaming it on a past version of the Foundation that doesn't live up to their current standards. +1.
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