Serena Williams Lost Because of Sexism!!
Catholicgirl22
During the final of the US open 36 year old Serena Williams frustrated about losing to 20 year old Naomi Osaka displayed very aggressive abusive behaviour towards the matches umpire Carlos Ramos when he called her out on cheating by receiving coaching, which her coach admitted. After that she repeatedly spent the match hurling abuse at the umpire implying he was sexist. She later called being punished for cheating and breaking the rules as sexist.
Some may call out John McEnroe but that was 30 years ago, he paid multiple bad conduct fines, but was disqualified only once, from the 1990 Australian Open.
One player was expelled from the 2017 U.S. Open: Fabio Fognini, for calling a chair umpire a "whore" and worse in Italian during a losing match.
He also was fined $96,000 and threatened with banishment from Grand Slam events if he didn't quit acting like a punk on the court.
Serena Williams has had several memorable meltdowns at the Open. The worst was in 2009, when she loomed over a diminutive line judge shouting, "I swear to God, I'm f—ing going to take this f—ing ball and shove it down your f—ing throat." Game, set and match to Belgium's Kim Clijsters. Afterward, Serena said the line judge was foolish to fear her, as she's never been a violent person.
Other players, including Venus Williams, Novak Djokovic, Andy Murray, Rafael Nadal and Nick Kyrgios, have complained on court after receiving code violations from Carlos Ramos.
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Williams is a 36-year-old tour veteran. She's supposed to know the rules. She's also, however — like a lot of tennis professionals — a pampered childhood prodigy who travels the world in a celebrity bubble, surrounded by flunkies, protected by money, and tempted to self-dramatize.
Serena Williams and those that defend her behaviour on the court represent the worst aspects of feminism which promotes that women are forever the perpetual victims in their own live, basically their message is when women lose its sexism. Truth is a younger player was better on the day and Serena couldn't handle it.
Time for Serena Williams to drop the false sexism allegations and her melodrama, admit thst she was wrong and apologise to Carlos Ramos, Naomi Osaka and America.
Miristheiss | 226 opinions shared on Trending & News topic.
If Serena was playing against a guy and the ref was calling things against her that he was letting go against the guy than maybe. Since she was playing a girl so since two women were playing each other and the other woman KICKED HER ASS (it wasn't even close) it can't be sexism that he makes a judgment against ONE of the TWO women. Can the other claim sexism if she wants those calls to be made but feels the ref is letting her slide?
This type of stuff makes it tougher to have REAL, LEGIT cases of sexism taken seriously because so many just flippantly call everything sexism.
Badballie
Serena and her sister must be full of testosterone, to get that big and strong. THEY ARE BOTH TO PUMPED ABOUT FEMINISM AND THAT THE WORLD OWES THEM. When they started out we hear how lovely these two "Christian girls " were LOL LOL
Right two massive BITCHES, imagine marrying one of those, one slap and you are missing your head. If want to try these heroics better have Glock 10mm with you to fight back. LOL LOL
didigo182
It's a shame this athlete who won so many titles and glories to have such a crappy behavior.
She Lost the game, tried to cheat.
Then accused the referee of cheating.
She used the victim card "I'm a woman..." yes... you're a woman Serena Williams... a woman with 80 million U$$ in your bank account (so oppressed).
Could not use the racism card because the Japanese it's also mixed. The most shameful thing was the American public applauding. The same people who are said to be just a cheater, spoiled and liar.
What gets me is that she says she wasn't cheating and then later says if she was a man she'd have gotten away with it.
pepwave21
I am not sure what to think since things are getting out of control and women might make it worse when they think things are better.
There was coaching going on and she did verbally abuse the umpire. I hate it when girls or people say it is sexist or racist just because things do not go their way. wow :(
NEOTUNIA2U
This topic has garnered so much hate from people who refuse to see both sides to this incident. This article is very informative. Check it out. www.si.com/.../serena-williams-carlos-ramos-us-open-controversy-umpire-penalty
With that being said, Osaka played very well when I watched the video above. I agreed with Serena saying she's proud of her and they did not boo at Osaka. Serena did show good sportsmanship and I still dont think she cheated. Serena was upset because of her experience with Ramos. He did not give fair warning to her, I think he was already biased not giving her same treatment towards a player who was a guy who obviously cheated , clearly due to the conflict he had with her sister Venus 2 years ago. Thanks for understanding. Be at Peace and stop hating.
Im proud of Osaka too! 💙
Cheating, verbally abusing officials, threatening an office is career and smashing your racket is not good sportsmanship, quite the opposite.
Then you are judging without forgiveness and understanding that she isn't the first person in the world to be emotionally involved in her sport that she excelled in and any great players will feel upset of course, like you when you get a c on your test or failed a class you could have passed with flying colors.
She isn't penitent for her behaviour so is not looking for forgiveness. It is not for me to forgive it's for the wronged umpire and Naomi Osaka. Forgiveness does not mean that you are not held to account for your actions by soceity at large.
When you implied "murderer" on your take, that is like extreme hate on there.
Are you God? Are you without sin? Is all of society without sin?
Sorry that was on the meme.
I'm far from without sin but I do like to speak up for what is right and against injustice.
Yes but I felt the hate when I read this and others takes highlighted about Serena. She inspired many and broke the barrier for women of color in Tennis. I adore them both. I don't watch Tennis. I only know that we all should love thy neighbor and consider that everyone have faults due to sin being rampant in this Earth, we all call home. Forgiveness is a fruit we all should strive to have. Let God be the judge.
There's no hate here, I'm just speaking out against the injustice on Serena's part.
What barrier for women of color in tennis was broken by Serena. Have you not heard of Katrina Adams, Leslie Allen, Camille Benjamin, Renee Blount, Zina Garrison, Althea Gibson, Stacey Martin, Lori McNeil, Diane Morrison, Chanda Rubin, Kim Sands, Lucy Diggs Slowe, Alexandra Stevenson, Mashona Washington, Michaela Washington, Ora Washington all playing decades before Serena, some since the first womens tennis tournaments were started nearly 100 years ago and all African American.
I believe in forgiveness but I dont believe in allowing injustice to stand like the injustices done by Serena to others.
No wonder you are so engrossed in this topic. You are a fanatic fan of this sport. I have no clue about all those ladies. Like I said I do not watch Tennis. I only hear about her in the news. Although, I DO know she has taken a stand for women everywhere in the world. Thank you for that info.
Are you actually 20?
Serena Williams is remarkable because she has won 23 major tournaments in her career and probably would have won more if not for her sister Venus. Between both Williams sister's they have 8 Olympic gold medals.
Just because I wasn't around in 1956 to see Althea Gibson win the French open doesn't mean I dont know about it.
HumansExist
@Catholicgirl22 Hear hear
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BlueCoyote
While she does come across as a bit pampered, I also feel like people are reading way too much into this whole incidence. I don't believe any of it had to do with sexism or with feminism. It's much more simple.
1) Serena Williams seems to have a rather fiery temper. I think we can forgive her for that, there's millions of other people just like her.
2) If you're at the very top, the air becomes very thin. This is true literally as well as metaphorically for sports. Despite being rich and famous (pampered), professional athletes also stand under enormous pressure that most normal people can't even imagine. On the one hand, there's your celebrity status, which may sound attractive to us normies but it can actually become quite exhausting quite fast. On the other hand, a lot of people have a lot of expectations of you. There's your sponsors who expect you to win, your friends and family, your coach who puts so much work and time into you... . I think it's easy for us to laugh about these people because we don't know what their life is like. Even just the traveling: again, this may sound cool for us (yay, travel around the world!) but it's probably extremely tiring. You constantly need to move places, everyone wants something from you and when you get to a new place, you can't do any sightseeing anyway. I imagine that Williams but also her fellow professional athletes are oftentimes running on their last drops of gas, so to speak. And this becomes even more true when you're 36. You're not as resilient anymore as you used to be with 20 - physically and emotionally.
In this context, I don't find it surprising that some professional athletes lose it every once in a while. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. So, I don't think this sexism-comment should be dissected so much. She was angry, maybe also a bit humiliated because she was caught and she knew millions of people were watching her. In that moment, she probably just wanted to piss off the referee and guilt-trip him into taking back his decision. I doubt her comment was based on any substantial contemplations on feminism or sexism.
madhatters4 | 485 opinions shared on Trending & News topic.
i don't think people are saying she lost due to sexism. i think people are saying the treatment by umpire may have sexist notions at its core or people's criticisms of her may come with sexist notions because of the difference in critiques of men who have done the same thing
i don't support her actions but i haven't seen it suggested that she lost DUE to sexism... but perhaps i'm wrong
It's been suggested everywhere. If the umpire was a woman would it be sexist then?
madhatters4
well anyone suggesting that he was sexist simply for calling the penalty or penalizing her a game after she called him a thief is absurd. i think she has every right to argue the call but there is no discernible way to suggest that he is sexist for penalizing her a game
nonetheless it's ultimately not that big of a deal. on as big a deal it is because of the crazy way the media hypes sports
Fact is she got caught cheating, claimed the umpire was a liar and a thief for penalizing her for cheating, made fals accusations about the umpires charcter, then continued to verbally abuse the umpire and even threatened his career. After that she ommitted that she was cheating after all and that it's sexist because men do it all the time. All together a completely disgraceful display.
https://youtu.be/qwp-Zqmf55k
i understand the circumstances. did i suggest she didn't cheat? did i suggest that it was sexist?
i frankly don't care. her actions are a disgrace unto her. it's a little strange that they've caused such an uproar but oh well. maybe i don't care enough about tennis or serena williams to be bothered by it
I think there's a real attempt to spin in in favour of Serena Williams and frame it as sexism. Many feminists have the mantra of supporting famous feminists no matter what but anyone who actually watched it and saw the match knows it's not true.
OlderAndWiser | 741 opinions shared on Trending & News topic.
Unfortunately, we live in a culture which promotes and rewards "victims" for whining and complaining as long as they are a member of any minority group. This reveals the worst racism in our culture: the leftists who are afraid to allow minorities to be judged on their merits and who clamor to find any reason to excuse their performance.
weysally
for anyone to say that had it been a man the umpire would have acted differently is absurd, how can anyone say what a person will do on the day, the umpire was in charge of this match not what McEnroe has done in the past, rules even change in the big tournaments, Wimbledon has a rule that the players must wear predominant white clothes, the others wear what they like it was bad manners and took some joy from the lovely lady that won
No. She lost cuz she got her ass handed to her by a first timer. She just made it uglier cuz she thre a temper tantrum.
She was also fined $17000 because she did in fact violate the rules. It's not a question of inter page actually broke rules.
CherryRoseChampange
I don't know, her behavior was wrong and unprofessional. She could have handled that way better. HOWEVER, I'm still not quite sure she was actually cheating despite her coaches claims. This girl has been playing tennis for years and has been excellent despite her attitude. I don't know, she seemed genuinely pissed too. But hey, she really could have been. I'm just 50/50 on it.
Regardless it was her coach and he was signalling. Serena's excuse later is that apprently male players do it and get away with it and that's sexism. So in fact she was cheating.
Oh okay, well, she just fucked up her entire career. That's really sad.
TotallyAlmost
She deserved what she got. Her behaviour was outrageous, unbecoming and not what you would expect on one of tennis's biggest stages from it's biggest star. Last time I checked, the opponent was a woman too. She didn't seem to have any problem with the umpire. Should we suggest that Serena is racist because she disrespected her Japanese opponent?
Or xenophobic because the umpire is Portuguese
Or sexist because he is a man.
Every time I want to like Serena, she opens her mouth and ugliness comes out.
Cammy137 | 191 opinions shared on Trending & News topic.
Great post! I haven't fully looked into the whole Serena Williams situation but from what I'd heard from other people it is just as you say: another example of people shouting "sexist" while they themselves basically saying that she deserves special treatment because she is a woman.
Aynsof | 69 opinions shared on Trending & News topic.
I don't really follow tennis so cannot say what the norms are but I read somewhere a couple male players said they had similar or worse meltdowns without receiving the same treatment and if that is true that is a not good double standard
While I cannot say if it really is the case here it is indeed something I have seen before the reactions to women have a tantrum vs men having a tantrum is often different not that it is ok to throw a tantrum in any case
There was a guy last year that got thrown out for the same thing abusing a female umpire. Even McEnroe was given penalties, fines suspensions and thrown out.
Aynsof
Like I said I don't follow tennis so I don't know if that is the norm how many men who have tantrums get into trouble for it compared to women who have tantrums? That is the question
But in society as a whole I can see most often widely different reactions to women throwing tantrums compared to men this is it always the case of course but often enough
But it is not really ok for adults to have childish meltdowns regardless of gender
I think if a man behaved the way Serena did he'd be thrown out. Like in 2009 she threatened a female official by saying I swear to God, I'm f—ing going to take this f—ing ball and shove it down your f—ing throat." Now if a man had threatened that the police would have been called.
It is possible I don't really know
The question is not of what would happen to 1 but if you took 100 incidents with men and 100 with women how many men would end up being thrown out vs how many women
Again I don't follow tennis so I can't say what the norm is there
But you do point at a different double standard there though
A man is more likely to suffer negative consequences from threats of violence than a woman but that is another question I guess
Where did she make it about sexism? Can you point to an actual quote by Serena that made it about sexism? Online trolls have certainly tried to turn into a sexism issue, but I haven't seen any evidence that Serena herself has done it.
All recorded
Wow, yea, that's pretty bad. It clearly had nothing to do with sexism but she wanted to play identity politics get what she wanted. It isn't too surprising though because that is increasingly becoming the go to excuse for people.
Didn't land that job? "It's cause I am a woman". Received a negative performance evaluation at your job? "It's cause I am a woman". It seems to be an increasingly popular excuse from what I have observed and the support behind Williams right now shows that it is an increasingly effective excuse.
MarkRet | 196 opinions shared on Trending & News topic.
When I first saw Serena Williams and her sister Venus, they both seemed incredibly muscled-up for women. It had he thinking that there are only two ways for a girl to be that muscled-up. 1, they spend all day working out in the gym, or 2, they're taking something like steroids. Based on Serena's behavior over the years, I'm inclined to wonder about steroids.
By the way, I always thought Jimmy Conners and John McEnroe were assholes.
ryancg
Well, yeah. Didn't she lock herself in a panic room just to avoid being drug tested?
spooky_skeletor
pro athletes spend hours every day training do they not? and if they're both muscular then does it not run in the family
Nathaniel1316
I don't follow her too closely so I wouldn't know but genetic wise
My two brothers, sister, and I are all very small framed. My oldest brother is hella tall and super toned but still really thin (like not drug addict thin but like his bones are thinner) thebrest of us have similar builds although I'm the only short one.
My cousins who's dad is huge are all huge asf. Like they're all tall and have super large body frames and all carry quite a bit of weight. Even the girl is built like her brothers I have a more feminine body than when does
Than she does*
abc3643 | 344 opinions shared on Trending & News topic.
Serena lost because Serena lost. She was not as good as the girl - repeat GIRL subject to that same "sexism" - who defeated her.
The judge followed the letter of the law and she got burned for it. In fairness, it isn't so much sexism that penalized her as much as way too many male tennis players got away with abuse that they should have been penalized on.
Iron_Man | 702 opinions shared on Trending & News topic.
That had nothing to do with that, that was a lame duck excuse just to get out of the loss because the judge took a game away from her. You see where she was fined didn't you? and the fine still stands
I'm beginning to think few people read my take
I'm going to be honest with you it was nothing personal against you or your Take. I read the headlines only I do that when I see threads that give you seven points per answer then I move on to the next seven point thread. I'm a points Hunter but other Takes that don't offer any points except for the regular one point I read the whole thing and of course I always read the questions all of it in the life feed
I know lol
I like you you're a good person keep up the good work
Also when I answered this take I didn't even know that you were the take owner until you posted in here
Wowgirl10q
Lame duck lol
Who Serena Williams?
I don't know you said it that's funny
You did tiger
Yeah that was what I was saying
JesseEllyson
She likely would have lost anyway. But there is no doubt that the ref was sexist. Her little outburst was nothing special, nothing extreme. Men have gotten away with far greater tantrums.
Last year a man was thrown out of the US open.
What man has gotten away with that behaviour?
If the umpire was a woman would her upholding of the rules and punishment of Serena for cheating, breaking her racket and verbal abuse been sexist too? Because if not then it's not sexism.
Also if a male player had spoken to a female umpire like Serena did that would have been sexist so in fact serena was the one being sexist.
I'm a lot older than you. I remember players throwing their rackets, yelling and cursing, making total asses off themselves over what they thought was a bad call from a ref. What Serena did was incredibly mild in comparison.
Those players are the reason rules were brought in. No person should be threatened or verbally abused just for doing their job don't you agree?
Last year a male player was thrown out of the 2017 US open for verbally abusing a female umpire
bubbatxman
She got the appropriate punishment and lost fair and square. Tennis is a game of rules and accepting your penalty is a part it. I would have ejected her and dq'ed her for the whole next set. That's what happens when an NFL or NCAA football player intentionally disrespects rules and commits two personal fouls: tThis entitlement bullshit needs to end.
Gedaria
NO NO NO, She is a bigot , sorry to say but she was well out of order , the umpire was doing his job , if she had problem lodge a complaint ,, or appeal. Not going screaming and being abusive which only creates more of a problem for her. If she had done that to me I would have disqualified her from the match …….
I can handle the Serena Williams shit but what's unconscionable is that the WTA sided with her instead of backing the umpire. They don't even respect their own rules.
They backed her simply because she's a woman.
Logorithim
She should apologize, but her enormous ego won't let her realize she lost because another woman was better on that day. Hence she blames the umpire. Pathetic sore loser.
TadCurious | 287 opinions shared on Trending & News topic.
I agree with you. And all of this melodrama from Serena Williams is a shame, because she is the greatest women's tennis player of all time. I wonder why she doesn't see how these abusive tantrums affect her legacy. She may be the greatest women's player of all time, but she is not above the rules.
Dargil | 214 opinions shared on Trending & News topic.
She was blinded by adrenaline and enraged that she was losing. But rules are rules. I'll agree that McEnroe should have been treated more aggressively. But alleged sexism doesn't negate the rules.
McEnroe got fines and penalties and even thrown out for the same stuff. This isn't the first time Serena has pulled this crap.
Dargil
True enough.
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